WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:07.839 Welcome to Moving Conversations, a podcast for movement professionals, by 2 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:11.240 movement professionals. If you coach, train, or teach movement, plates 3 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:14.119 or fitness, then this podcast is for you. With more 4 00:00:14.199 --> 00:00:16.839 than sixty years of experience and fitness and pilates your host, 5 00:00:16.879 --> 00:00:19.239 Brian Richie and Norse Saint John explored the science of 6 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:23.719 human movement, diving deep into the backs, myths, and common misconceptions, 7 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:26.600 hoping to spark thought and conversation about how we view 8 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:31.320 fitness and movement. Now let's jump into Moving Conversations and 9 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:33.679 welcome back to Moving Conversation with Brian Rickie joining me 10 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:35.759 as always is Norris and John. Good morning, nor How 11 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:37.799 you doing farewell? 12 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:39.200 Brian? How about yourself? 13 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:42.880 Doing all right? Hanging in there, hanging in there? Sorry 14 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:47.159 about last week. Had a little emergency occur and so 15 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:50.600 I couldn't make it. I hope I hadn't been replaced. 16 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:52.200 I showed up today going as someone going to be 17 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:54.479 sitting in my seat. So I'm glad I'm still here. 18 00:00:54.759 --> 00:01:00.840 I appreciate that. So, yeah, these things have occasionally, But 19 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:02.960 I got to say, I don't know if you realize this. 20 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:07.120 Today is the third anniversary of our first show. 21 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:11.799 At the anniversary yet close to a number of that 22 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.000 we must be close to the end of the third. 23 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:21.760 Year, right, today is the finals one of our third season. Yeah, exactly, 24 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:24.879 we're a big three exactly. I was like, oh my gosh, 25 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:30.760 we're at episode fifty two. Yeah, so we the fact 26 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:35.319 that neither of us have missed until three until the 27 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:37.200 end of the third year, I think that's pretty good. 28 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:40.040 Pretty good, pretty good track rating for the two of 29 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.439 us doing all of the travel and teaching and everything 30 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:45.359 that we do all over the world. So not too bad, 31 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:46.879 you know. 32 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.040 I have to say, this is one of the things 33 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:51.159 that when we first started talking about this, I just 34 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:53.599 I just committed to it, and it's just been honestly, 35 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:56.599 I've totally enjoyed it. It's been a blast to talk 36 00:01:56.599 --> 00:01:59.000 to you every week or have our guests every week, 37 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:03.760 and just I've learned a whole bunch. I've just had 38 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:06.319 some really good insights. It feels like it's really deepened 39 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:09.319 my understanding of how the body works and how all 40 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:11.520 this sortful profession that we're in goes. 41 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:14.360 So anyway, I just really appreciate it. That's great. Three years. 42 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:19.039 No, I've loved it. I've learned a lot. You and 43 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:20.960 I have always had a great relationship and that we 44 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.319 do bounce ideas off each other when we do talk. 45 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:25.319 It's like I've been thinking about this, and then we 46 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.000 go back and forth and have you thought about this? 47 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:31.520 And we've always done that. Yeah, and this just gives 48 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:34.680 us sort of an outlet to pick a topic instead 49 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:36.919 of just whatever happens to be on our mind or 50 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:38.840 something that we read in the news or whatever. So 51 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:44.159 it's like a very focused, you know, conversation. And hopefully 52 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:48.199 for our listeners you've enjoyed what we've been doing. Hopefully 53 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:51.039 we've gotten better. I sort of cringe at some of 54 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:54.039 the early episodes because we are figuring our way. We 55 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:56.439 are trying to figure all this out, and I think 56 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.400 it's gotten a little bit better as we go. Hopefully 57 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:02.319 hopefully other people agree with that, but I think we've 58 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:05.360 gotten a lot more comfortable. I love our guests. I 59 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:09.439 think that they've been fantastic, always bringing up ideas and 60 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:12.280 concepts and things that we wouldn't have thought of on 61 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:13.400 our own. So I love that. 62 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:16.919 Yeah, that's just so nice to have the different perspectives 63 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:18.919 in one's head. Because we've been doing it long enough 64 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:22.680 to have some you know, pretty deep grooves in terms 65 00:03:22.719 --> 00:03:25.319 of how we think about thing, and it's really somebod 66 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:27.199 to commit and say, hey, well check out this groove 67 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:30.400 over here, you know, just significent. A different perspective is 68 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:33.400 often all you need to get a fresh eye on 69 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:36.520 a client or a problem or some we just haven't 70 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:37.120 thought of before. 71 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:39.240 So song's been super fun. We've got more guests coming 72 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:41.360 up to get some more coming up in the year 73 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:42.560 number four. 74 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:46.280 Yeah, yeah, so I'm looking forward to it. It's funny 75 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:48.120 that you said we just need to commit to this. 76 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:50.400 At the very beginning. You said, if we're going to 77 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.479 do this, we need to commit. And it's true. I 78 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:56.960 have talked to more people who have had podcasts who 79 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:00.919 have quit after five episodes, ten episodes, and oh we 80 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:03.680 didn't get traction. I'm thinking, did you think that you 81 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:07.439 were going to be the next big thing after four 82 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:11.240 or five episodes? I mean, I'm sure there are some people, 83 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:16.040 especially when podcasting was in its infancy, that may have 84 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:19.079 you know, developed that sort of thing, but you talk 85 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:21.199 to most of them and it's a slow burnie. You know, 86 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:23.759 you gather a few more people each and every week, 87 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:26.600 and you hope that it drives more people to you. 88 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:29.279 And since we're in't a very small niche, you know, 89 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:33.120 talking about not only healthcare but also Palate's personal training 90 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.680 movement in general, it's a smaller niche, so I don't 91 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:40.160 expect us to have five million listeners a week. So 92 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:42.879 I'm just happy for every one of you who is listening. 93 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.879 So we appreciate it very much. If you haven't hit 94 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:47.959 that like and subscribe button, please please please do it. 95 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:53.759 I really appreciate it. And comment anything that you would 96 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:55.720 love us to talk about. Do us a favor, hit 97 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.879 us up on email moving convos at gmail dot com. 98 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:02.759 We get a number of you know, ideas coming in 99 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:05.120 through there, so it's really interesting sort of to hear 100 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:07.560 what you're interested in, because right now a lot of 101 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:10.519 times it's what Nora and I are interested in, and 102 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:13.480 it's sort of yeah. So we'd love to hear what 103 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.879 you guys want to talk about and or say, you know, 104 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.560 I heard you talk to such and such about this topic. 105 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:21.600 We'd love you to go into more detail or is 106 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:24.040 there anything new or whatever, and we can do a 107 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:26.800 deeper dive, So please let us know. We really appreciate it. 108 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:34.199 Today's topic is Part three, Part three, Yeah, what are 109 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:37.199 we talking about? Yeah, GOP one. 110 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.079 GOLP one. We just wanted to talk about it again 111 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:43.199 because there's more people on it, there's more research that's 112 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:43.680 been done. 113 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:47.279 They're starting to see impacts. And also I. 114 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:50.120 Think you and I certainly in our practices and in 115 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.519 talking for me, talking to a lot of different instructors, 116 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:56.439 are starting to understand what kind of what we're dealing 117 00:05:56.480 --> 00:05:59.279 with in the fitness studio or the plate studio. What 118 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:01.279 does this mean in terms of what our clients are 119 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:03.800 doing or not doing. What are we looking for all 120 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:04.759 those things? 121 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:09.399 Yeah, it's very interesting because I remember the very first 122 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:11.920 client who came in that said he was on it. Now, 123 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:13.600 I used to work at the National Center for Weight 124 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:15.680 and Wellness. I still consult for them, but I worked 125 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:19.879 down there just part time. I did their exercise consulting. 126 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:23.680 And I was talking to the owner and he had 127 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:30.160 mentioned things that were way before the GOP one sort 128 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:34.480 of came out, the first iteration of these and they 129 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:37.519 were not covered. They were only for diabetes. They were 130 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:42.199 not covered by hardly any insurances, extremely expensive. If they 131 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:44.600 were covered, I mean, you'd have to jump through hoops 132 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.079 upon hoops upon hoops and he was talking to me. 133 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:49.519 He said, look, they're fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars 134 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:52.959 you know a week, said, but they do work, and 135 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:55.639 he said a good side effect is that people do 136 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:59.079 lose weight. It's just they're really strict about who can 137 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:03.839 take them because off brand. You know, prescribing is not 138 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:06.439 the greatest thing in the world, and a lot of 139 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:08.720 people do it, but so they were really trying to, 140 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:12.600 you know, minimize that. And then all of a sudden, 141 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:16.040 I remember that first client who came in and said, oh, 142 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:19.439 my doctor has me on this new, this brand new drug. 143 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:23.920 It's called ozempic. I was like, okay. Commercials hadn't come 144 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:26.480 out yet, and I was like, huh, sounds a little familiar. 145 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:30.759 I remember reading about it through medscaper somewhere and huh, okay, 146 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.199 where I think I know what this is all about. 147 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.360 And he said, it's the most amazing miracle thing I've 148 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:39.680 ever experienced. I've lost ten pounds. I've been on it 149 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:41.480 only about a month and a half. I've been I've 150 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:46.160 been losing steady said. I walked by food. I'm not interested. 151 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:49.319 I've never been able to do that before. He said, 152 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:53.319 it's it's a miracle. And he was not obese. He 153 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:56.639 was just a heavy set guy, you know, as a 154 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:59.879 lot of people get heavier as the age and so 155 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:02.199 so that was the very first time. And I remember 156 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:05.240 hearing about that thinking, huh, I didn't remember your A 157 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:07.720 one c's being all that high that you would be 158 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:13.120 prescribed this. Now he's he's got a little bit of money, 159 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.600 so he just decided to do it on his own 160 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:21.199 and it worked for him. And that's within I want 161 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.560 to say days, but I'm sure it was weeks. Suddenly 162 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:26.920 commercials are on TV. Everyone's talking about it, you know, 163 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.240 you hear all these influencers getting it on the black 164 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:31.920 market and all sorts of stuff. So yeah, it's it's 165 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:35.360 it's really come a long way in the last three years. 166 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:37.279 It has. 167 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.440 And one of the things I've been reading up a 168 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:41.919 lot on it in preparation for this podcast this week, 169 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:47.080 and it's there's a couple things. One is the key 170 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:48.960 thing it seems to talk about, and this seems to 171 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:51.600 have as much of a brain component as anything else, 172 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:53.639 is the lack of you know, a lot of people 173 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:57.000 call it food mine or just a brain that is 174 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.759 constantly obsessed with what have I eaten? What am I 175 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:02.919 going to eat that looks good? Like always scanning the 176 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:06.600 environment for what's the next meal? It says a lot 177 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:08.320 of a lot of people say it just it just 178 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.600 quiets that down. And so a lot of people say, 179 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:14.559 like food noise or food chatter really has been their 180 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:18.480 their best, their their most positive experience of it, on 181 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:20.240 the one hand, keeps. 182 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:21.639 Them keep. 183 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:26.120 But as a side effect of that, I don't know 184 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.639 if you've heard of this, but that's called ozampic personality, 185 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:32.399 which is anedonia. I believe that's how you pronounce it, 186 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:35.879 which is just a loss of interest in everything, not 187 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:40.799 manly food, but just a flatness, a loss of interest 188 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:42.679 in things that they were passionate about. 189 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:47.600 Yeah, I was just reading about that and also hearing 190 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:52.240 about the challenge of people who are on antidepressants. 191 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:52.320 And then go on it. 192 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:56.399 Oh yeah, Antidepressants in general, for most people tend to 193 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:58.600 kind of get rid of the highs and the lows 194 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:00.519 for people right again, they make them a little more 195 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:03.000 in the mid line in terms of emotional range. And 196 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:06.759 then not just anecdotally, but but some studies have said 197 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:10.039 that if you do that plus jop ones. 198 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:10.840 That gets worse. 199 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:15.320 That it's almost like which was you know, five to 200 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:18.840 two now goes down to four to three or something 201 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.039 like that. So that was interesting too, that that's that's 202 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:25.519 certainly it. And then I think it's also i mean 203 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.639 many other side effects too. Some people just can't tolerate it. 204 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:32.600 It just makes them feel terrible. Some people end up 205 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.159 malnourished because they just can't eat enough. I mean, there's 206 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.919 you know, there are certainly some negative side effects to this. 207 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:38.360 For sure. 208 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:42.639 I think a lot of that probably goes back to 209 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:46.200 when it was first being touted and a lot of 210 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:49.440 people were going into their doctors and sort of demanding it. 211 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:51.799 And then when it did come out for weight loss, 212 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:54.360 they didn't have to qualify. They just had to be 213 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:56.720 a certain over a certain BMI and depending on if 214 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:00.399 they had money or if they had good insurance whatnot, 215 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:03.240 maybe it would be covered, maybe it wouldn't. But I 216 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.039 don't think the doctors knew what they were doing at 217 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:10.279 the time because it's such a new drug that it's 218 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.159 hard to keep up with it, and it was hard 219 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:14.919 to keep up with the studies because it takes years 220 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:20.919 and years of research before studies are not only you know, completed, 221 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.480 but written published and go through all of that. So 222 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:27.759 I think there were so many people just sort of saying, oh, okay, 223 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:31.759 you qualified, sure, here you go, without knowing what you 224 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:34.440 really need to do to help these clients in the 225 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:37.759 end and maybe adjust the dosage or change this or 226 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:40.039 change that, and how to get more nutrients into them. 227 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:44.919 I got to tell you, because of my background, I 228 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.559 have helped clients more than their physicians have with things 229 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:51.480 like making sure they're getting enough nutrients because I can 230 00:11:51.519 --> 00:11:54.200 talk to them because of my background. I was like, Okay, 231 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:58.600 maybe you need to be thinking about vitamin vitaminineral supplement. 232 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.159 That's more for like a bariatric person because you're no 233 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.960 longer going to be eating as much. You're going to 234 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:05.879 be eating a lot less and you're probably not going 235 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:09.480 to be having enough of certain things, including iron and 236 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:12.519 you know, bringing things like that up. Telling them eat 237 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:16.080 your protein first, I said, oh, I have a salad first, 238 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:18.159 I said, and what do you have after your salad? Oh? 239 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:23.919 I can't eat anything? Go And they oh, like, okay, 240 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.559 you got to reverse this. Now you got to really 241 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:28.399 think about protein first. 242 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:29.360 Yep. 243 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:32.840 You got to get your nutrient dense food in first, 244 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:36.240 and then kind of like you know, your toppings on 245 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:38.639 a Sunday. You can sprinkle other things on top of, 246 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:40.519 you know, the meal, but you got to get the 247 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.080 nutrient dense things in first. And that's I think was 248 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:48.000 missing from a lot of physicians because that wasn't their specialty. 249 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:51.240 Nutrition is new, dietitians new, but I think a lot 250 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:54.320 of physicians were just unaware at that time. I think 251 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.279 they're a lot more aware today than they were three 252 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:57.200 years ago, for sure. 253 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:01.720 Yeah, although having talked to a number of friends who've 254 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:04.639 been going on it recently, their doctors have not said 255 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:10.320 a thing about nutrition to them, zero dot abubbles, you know, and. 256 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:12.120 They've really had to. And the good news is there 257 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:13.480 is some good information out. 258 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.519 There now in terms of meal plans and that kind 259 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:18.919 of thing, and just how do you figure out how 260 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:21.759 to get your nutrients in in a smaller quantity than 261 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:25.159 you might be used to. But you got to pay attention, 262 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:27.320 right because you can't just go and say, oh, I'm 263 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:28.919 going to have my two bites of pizza and my 264 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:31.639 you know, my half a burger or whatever it is 265 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:33.879 it used to eat, because that's not really going to 266 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:34.759 get you what you need. 267 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.440 No, No, you're not going to get what you need 268 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:41.679 nutritionally at all doing something like that. And I've had 269 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:44.440 some clients say, oh, you know, I had lunch and 270 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:48.559 then I realized I didn't need anything until the next day, right, say, okay, 271 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.799 what did you have for lunch? A salad? Said all right, 272 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:56.360 so for last nearly twenty four hours, no wonder they're 273 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:58.600 fatigued during the workouts. First of all, if I see 274 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.480 them first thing in the morning, but I say, how's 275 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:06.600 your energy, I'm dragon, it's okay. Well, probably need to 276 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:09.240 talk about some nutritional things here, and that's not my 277 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:11.840 area of expertise, but I have a background in it. 278 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:16.039 Something I found fascinating. I've talked to many physicians. Do 279 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.519 you know the number of nutrition courses they take in 280 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:25.279 collegen med school? Most of them for the ones I 281 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:29.279 talked to one and then when they're undergraduate. 282 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:33.679 A lot of it a lot of times zero. Yeah. 283 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.840 Yeah, So if it's not covered there, they may understand 284 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:43.639 everything that's going on physiologically, but nutritionally you really need 285 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:46.759 to have that. I like to say, you need to 286 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.759 have that card in your pocket, and if not as 287 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:53.279 a physician. I was talking with a surgeon friend yesterday. 288 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:57.840 And his practice actually has nutritionists as well as psychological 289 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:03.960 people to to so and he specializes in uh, weight loss, 290 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:07.639 bariatric all of that. So for him it makes sense. Okay, 291 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:10.639 here are these nutrition people, and he's the first to say, 292 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:13.320 you know what, talk to them. They know more about 293 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:15.320 it than I do. I'm good at what I do. 294 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:19.000 And when you hear that, it's like, oh, I appreciate that. 295 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:23.039 At least, it's like, good, don't pretend you know everything, 296 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:24.120 because none of us do. 297 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:27.799 I'm also thinking, you know, a lot of the people 298 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:32.200 that do this have had various kinds of disordered eating 299 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:35.279 for years. Anyway, when all my friends who are void, 300 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:38.200 it's like they do they go on their diets, they 301 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:40.960 calorie count, they've tried all kinds of different things, many 302 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:43.159 of them. That is why they're not building ones, because 303 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.720 nothing is really worked in terms of just food control. 304 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:49.960 So a lot of times they have, like I would say, 305 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.919 a skewed view of what's healthier not healthy? 306 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:57.039 Yeah, right, what's like nutrient because oftentimes the nutrient dense 307 00:15:57.080 --> 00:15:57.759 foods are all. 308 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:00.759 Too calorie dense foods, no joke. 309 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:02.799 Right, So it's kind of like like so they've sort 310 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:06.440 of trained themselves, like wanting a salad instead of a 311 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:09.679 ham sandwich or whatever. They've trained themselves and want something 312 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:13.159 that maybe is not what they need now with the 313 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:16.159 current medications that they're on and the current nutritional status 314 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.440 that they're in and the fact that they're eating half 315 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.559 as much food as they used to. So I think 316 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:22.960 those are all complex pieces of that puzzle. 317 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:29.240 Yeah, there's no question this is a complex situation, and 318 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.200 I think you need a team. You need a team 319 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:35.279 who understands what your body's going through. So the physician 320 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:39.360 understands physiologically what's happening and can monitor that, can monitor 321 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:42.480 your blood work, can monitor all of that to make 322 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:46.519 sure that you're not missing out on any specific nutrients. 323 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:50.279 Because I do know that certain things when people are 324 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:54.559 on gop ones, like vitamin A drops on a lot 325 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:58.480 of people, Vitamin D drops on a lot of these people, yep, 326 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:02.159 And when those drop, we can see issues. So there 327 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:05.839 are certain things that kind of need buffering iron because 328 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.240 let's face it, I talk to a lot of people 329 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.839 and they say, Oh, I just don't like protein, I 330 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:11.920 don't need proteins. 331 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.839 I don't like your feels too heavy, it's too hard. 332 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.400 To digest Yeah, and I'm thinking, but without it, where 333 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:22.279 is your iron coming from? Where are you getting your minerals? 334 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:27.160 Where are you getting that side of things? And so 335 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:30.119 it's important that they understand that you need to take 336 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:32.799 more than that, that you need to do that and 337 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:35.240 getting your blood work done on a regular basis is 338 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:40.559 a highly, highly advantageous thing. I can't recommend it enough. 339 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:44.000 Yeah, And I would say for you know, those of 340 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:48.359 us in our professions where we're ancillary or auxiliary to 341 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.200 the medical community, if you know a client is on days, 342 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:54.160 just suggest that to them, say hey, why don't you 343 00:17:54.200 --> 00:17:55.039 talk to a new gestenist. 344 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:58.200 Why don't you make sure you've got your nutrition covered 345 00:17:58.200 --> 00:17:58.599 for this. 346 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:01.880 Because again, physicians often don't talk about that, or they 347 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:04.240 maybe not be going they maybe go through some telehealth 348 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:06.640 thing to get it too right, so they may be 349 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:07.559 getting really. 350 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:08.599 No information at all. 351 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:12.319 And just su is really important. The thing too, and 352 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:15.319 you mentioned it a little bit earlier, is because of 353 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:19.000 the decreasing calories and sometimes the lack of nutrition that 354 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:22.200 they're getting that fatigue. I've had a number of instructors 355 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:26.160 say they can tell a client is on jail once, 356 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:28.359 even if they don't tell them, And sometimes clients don't 357 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:29.759 tell you or they lie about it. 358 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:31.680 That's happening too. 359 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:34.599 Because they suddenly like can't do the reps they used 360 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:36.799 to be able to do of something simple like footwork. 361 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:38.759 But a lot of clients, you know. 362 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:40.839 Somebody comes in a lot and in structors say, a 363 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:44.799 client comes in and suddenly they're just not as strong 364 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:47.279 as they were, you know, a month and a half ago, 365 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:49.680 and there's nothing else going on. It's been no injury 366 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:51.440 anything else. And it's like they'll say, are you a 367 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:53.759 JLP ones may any chance and they'll say, oh, yeah, 368 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:55.640 you know, I've been on it for three months or 369 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:57.799 something like that. And those are just things to be 370 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:01.680 aware of. And you know, some weight loss. A lot 371 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:03.599 of times people don't want to tell you they're on 372 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:04.279 GLP ones. 373 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:05.599 They want it to be Yep. 374 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:10.319 There's all the weird stigmas about weight loss. But I 375 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:12.200 think it's really important for you to know as a 376 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:14.519 movement educator that they are or they aren't. 377 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:19.119 It's vitally important. A number of the ones that I 378 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:22.279 have talked to, fortunately their physicians after about it the 379 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:25.759 first year they've lost a lot of weight. Well, some 380 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:30.640 of these doctors have invested in. Whether they're accurate or not, 381 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:33.640 I can't say. But we're talking about you know, body fat, 382 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:37.720 you know machines, okay, bioelectrical impedance. Primarily the ones just 383 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:40.200 stand on and you just hold. If you're not fasted, 384 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:43.240 if you're not without water for eight to twelve hours beforehand, 385 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:46.160 it's really not the most accurate for numbers. As long 386 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:49.519 as you're consistent and consistently doing around the same time 387 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:52.079 of day and everything, maybe those the numbers are fairly 388 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:54.319 okay for you, and maybe you don't need to do 389 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:57.480 it that scientifically. I come from a scientific background, so 390 00:19:57.519 --> 00:19:59.400 for me, I want to be as close to that 391 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:03.160 as possible. But the doctors will invest in these things 392 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:04.920 in fact, and then they'll say, oh wow, oh you 393 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:09.200 you've lost a lot of muscle. Oh you, It's like okay. 394 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:10.839 And then they come into me and think, but I'm 395 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:13.640 worth lifting weights, and they almost want to blame me, 396 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:16.640 and I say, wait a minute, Okay, you've lost weight. 397 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:21.240 Anytime you lose weight, you're going to lose both that 398 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:27.799 water and lean tissue. Everybody does. You talk about the 399 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:30.720 biggest bodybuilders in the world, and they're on performance enhancing 400 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:34.200 this and that, and guess what, they still lose that 401 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:38.880