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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,

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mix in some vodka.

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Speaker 2: Color a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio

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in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots gem Ram.

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Speaker 3: It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks

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for telling a friend, Thanks for writing me that I

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need a razor.

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Speaker 2: I met so many people hit me on so many

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whirl you'll lose your razor, We'll have your razor.

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Speaker 1: Any money for a razor? You a razor sponsor?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, because nobody ever really has seen you

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with a beard.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen you with a beard.

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Speaker 1: I grew on once and then I was just letting

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it go. Yes, I've been letting it go for a while.

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Then people, I can tell you're having a hard time.

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Your dad really kind of got you. Didn't shave it.

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Speaker 3: Don't you love what people make those associations.

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Speaker 1: It's like we all do.

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Speaker 3: We all do it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we all.

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Speaker 3: Try to sound smarter than we really are. Dude, I'm

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guilty of this more than anyone.

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Speaker 5: Rah.

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 3: You know what Sammy, Uh, you know what Kevin's problem is.

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Speaker 2: I think like people would go, uh, it looks like

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you're having a really hard time. I really, you haven't

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shaved in a couple of days. You look like your

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hair's all messy.

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Speaker 1: I go, that's how I wear my hair, and I'm

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lucky I have it. I'm gonna be fifty four years

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old in like two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Come on, They asked Marcia Clark, who's the prosecutor for O. J. Simpson?

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Are you wearing the white dress for Nicole Brown?

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Speaker 4: Are you wearing the right dress for rock Golmos goes,

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I'm wearing it because it was clean.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just to get to the dry.

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Speaker 1: Cleaners right exactly. But no I did. I don't know.

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I just thought, well, let's see something different trying out.

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I don't know, well, let's see, I mean, looks good.

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Beard seemed to be very uh in fashion these days.

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Speaker 3: Just don't become one of those beard guys.

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Speaker 1: What's a beard?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 4: They start wearing glasses and drink craft beer and wearing

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special argyle shirts, wearing hard shoes to the beach.

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Speaker 3: They're around. They used to be called hipsters.

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Speaker 4: Now they now they and now they've become dads, so

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now they're sophisticated. I mean, I mean they're they're like

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one generation away from wearing an ascot on a Sunday

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afternoon at the beach.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you're smoking a pipe that that's coming by

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the way, what the pipe cigars?

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Speaker 3: Now it's going to be a pipe you wait?

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Speaker 1: Oh, people smoking pipes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like with beards and glasses and mascots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember my uncle Bill used to smoke a pipe.

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Speaker 3: Michael Tony did two for what. I love pipe smoke

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every family.

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Speaker 1: I like the way it's smell. Yeah, the tobacco.

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Speaker 3: Ye, it's the greatest second hand smoke ever. Sure it's

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pipe smoke.

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Speaker 1: I think I did certainly like that when you think

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about it. Now, I were more populated than ever, but

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there was a lot of ship they were breathing in

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back then, and everybody seemed to live.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well look at Mark Mark's crand parents. Right, they live

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under Kodak. They're like not both in their nineties, both smoke,

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both both drank.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lived under.

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Speaker 3: The smoke stacks of codec. They're fine. Maybe it's one

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of those like you know, you got to get away

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with the flu.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, get rid of the flu A little bit of

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like a little bit of the germ scares away that

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maybe that's what it was, a little bit of Kodak went.

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Speaker 3: A long way.

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Speaker 1: Might be Maybe I could become a beard influencer if

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I actually let this thing go.

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Speaker 4: Maybe start wearing beard oils, start advertising beard oil.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this. I read an article today about it.

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Speaker 3: Bill Moran here for Doctor Squatch beard oil. Yes, it's all.

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Speaker 1: Healthy, you could drink it. I want to reach out

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to Doctor Squatch.

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Speaker 3: They got good stuff. And by the way, it's it's

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healthy soap.

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Speaker 1: But Doctor Squatch they even have like alone.

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Speaker 4: Oh they do they have they have colone, they have

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shampoo conditioner, beard oil.

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Speaker 1: Now they got a razor for your balls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay they're branching out.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: But if you run it on the UK app soap

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there's reas why it's expect because it's incredibly clean.

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Speaker 3: There's no chemicals or very little chemicals.

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Speaker 1: What we need a Doctor Squatch sponsor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we should Doctor Squatch.

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Speaker 4: If you're listening to Billify the Bill Moran podcast, we

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could use product or cash.

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Speaker 1: There's a uh or both. There's a whole there's a

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whole industry now of people who are considered influencers, and

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I'm not really sure who they are and what they're

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influencing exactly, or how they would determine who's an influencer

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and who who's not. Jamison watched this watches this kid

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who I really like on YouTube and I don't know

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his name, but he goes around to different hotels and

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he went to all the haunted hotels that you could

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stay at, and he went around and talked all about it.

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I guess that would be an influencer, right, because if

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people see that, they're going to go to have a

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similar experience. And the guy did it a beautifully shot

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while the kid's very poison camera was really really well done.

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So I guess that would be an influencer. And then

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we think of like the Kardashians. Certainly they've influenced people.

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There's a whole bunch. It's like they have clones out

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there to search. It's so funny and that's okay, But

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this guy is a de influencer. He actually has started

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something called Dotty Snacks and Dottie I think it's d

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a a d I means grandma in I think it's

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in India.

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Speaker 7: In India, but yeah, Dottima right, okay, So okay, so

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Dottie and that.

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Speaker 1: So this guy is South Asian, uh, and he made

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flavored popcorn using Dotty Ma's recipes and he went through

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and they did a bunch of testing and all this stuff.

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So that and he built this business. But his he's anonymous.

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He doesn't say who he is. He puts his face

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on camera, so somebody knows, but it's anonymous, and it's

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on the Dottie Na. Yeah, but it's on their Instagram.

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So it's like their Instagram where they'd be promoting their popcorn,

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but they're not. It's this guy who pops up making

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fun of influencers and I fucking love it like it's him. No,

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it's it's fantastic. Now, listen to this one. It starts

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out with the influencer, okay, and then he duets these

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things or jumps in and it's it's incredible. Here we go,

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We're about to get hit by a hurricane. Okay. So

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this is when the tsunami was coming.

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Speaker 4: Right, and they.

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Speaker 1: Thought the tsunami was gonna hit like California.

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Speaker 3: Careful, there was an earthquake at Japan. Make sure you

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brought up your house in Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, excuse me, mister president, can you spell tsunami? I'll

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never forget being at the comedy club and the JJ

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God rest his soul. Fucking JJ God rested. So hey, hey, Billy,

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how about the tossue me? I go, what the tsue me?

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I went home. I watched from six pm to midnight.

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I couldn't turn it off, the whole thing. I go.

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Speaker 3: You watched six hours.

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Speaker 1: Of covers and you still fucking pronounce the word. But

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I had a tea of it. Yeah, so all right,

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So this woman is in Hawaii, okay, and she's, uh,

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I guess, a travel nurse. And maybe she blogs her

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travels as to wherever she goes, and maybe people follow.

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I don't know, but here we go.

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Speaker 5: I am in Hawaii and we're about to get hit

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by a hurricane or now.

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Speaker 3: Calmly, why does it look?

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Speaker 8: So you're a travel nurse staying in Hawaii and you

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decide to content farm a potential natural disaster.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, it's no update on this.

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Speaker 8: Based on this comment, it's clear you couldn't give one

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single funck what happens to the people who live there. Hey,

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at least you have your tsunami snacks for your picnic,

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because if something happens to the natives, you can pick

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your tripod up and hop to the next place.

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Speaker 3: You're doing a little picnic.

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Speaker 8: We have our snacks, and people tell me I'm too

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mean to influencers, and I would argue I should be

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much meaner.

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Speaker 1: Okay, buy some. I want to make this the fucking

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dotty popcorn dead alone, dead alone, Go buy it. It

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sounds fantastic. What's like? Oh wait, I think I've seen

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this maybe in Wagmans. No, I'm thinking of a different

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brand than with made with avocado oil. The popcorn with

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a uh one more one more. And this is a

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kid who comes out and I guess he's an influencer.

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Handsome kid. Hands are all tatted up. I couldn't tell

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because he had, you know, clothes on. I couldn't see

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how far they went up his arm or anything. But

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handsome kid. And he comes out, he's got a complaint.

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Speaker 8: When I order an Uber black of Volvo is coming

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to pick me up, I'm sorry, but that's an Uber black.

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My god, you guys, I just ordered an Uber black

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and I'm literally shaking. They sent me an eighty thousand

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dollars car instead of one hundred and twenty thousand dollars.

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I guess they do say God gives his toughest.

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Speaker 1: Battles to his strongest soldiers.

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Speaker 8: When I order an Uber black of Volvo is coming

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to pick me up.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So I don't know if that's

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a kiddy.

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Speaker 4: Bull Canadian because he said the idiot dude sounds Canadian too.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where he is. I think he's in

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New York City. Okay, I think he's in New York City.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Yeah he does.

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Speaker 1: I mean you, uh just look up Dottie Daddi snacks

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and you will find them on Instagram. And he just

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duets all these people. I think it was Instagram, might

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have been TikTok. Excuse me to love it, and uh yeah,

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I think it's the first known example of a food

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brand doubling as what I would say is a satirical

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think tank.

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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: I love it because it was when my wife.

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Speaker 4: Tells me, like in school, they do these like they

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ask the kids, what do you want to be when

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you grow up? Yeah, and of them like when we

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were kids, pro athlete, quarterback, baseball player, maybe astronaut, or

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your talk show host.

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Speaker 3: Now these kids just influencer. Yeah, okay, what are you influence?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Whatever. Makeup, yeah, eight jeans, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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I don't know if we'll saturate things to a point.

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I think they'll always be influenced. Their advertisers. Well, there's always.

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Speaker 4: People that are under the influence of something or somebody.

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But I mean, now it's like all of a sudden,

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Grandma's an influence.

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some of the stuff because overall, my biggest concern, and

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going to be boring. And it was kind of flat

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and boring. I mean, it opens up with Deon Dawkins,

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it was Dawson Knox, who, by the way, seven people.

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I just think that's a lot because I always go people,

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go people, please tell me everybody. If someone says to

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me everybody I know is doing it, I go, okay,

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can you name need ten friends that you talked to

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on a regular basis? Right? And that was an old

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program director said that to me to just kind of

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down with Dawson Knox was like, I'm like, holy shit,

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it's another one. Oh, here's another one.

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Speaker 7: I'm getting it on Instagram, I'm getting it on Facebook,

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I'm getting it on my text I'm getting it was amazing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dawson's a great guy, and uh, it just was coincidental.

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I was walking down from the parking lot and he

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was walking out of the locker room and he was

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a couple of steps ahead to me, turned around and

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saw it was me, and then we just started busing. Yeah,

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and you know, he we were trying to coordinate getting

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something together for the Killers. That was that Saturday, Yes,

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and it was his first practice back, so we were

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talking about that.

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Speaker 6: I told Hi, man, I'm like, hey man, you know,

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you don't have to say you can just take veteran days.

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Speaker 1: I go.

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Speaker 6: Bruce Smith used to do it all training.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he would take veteran camps.

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Speaker 1: He was.

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Speaker 3: There was one time where I remember he was tethered

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to a tree just running back because he didn't want

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to practice. And I was like, you know what, all right?

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Speaker 6: He would just be on the stare mill StairMaster the

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whole time, didn't.

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Speaker 3: His grandmother died three times in one camp, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dawson's a great guy. And it was when we

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were walking. I didn't think anything of it because we

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were just bsing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And uh, and as you walked down and I didn't

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see anybody because again, you know, you're not.

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Speaker 1: You went you weren't. You were literally looking at him,

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talking to him and walking. He went one direction, you

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went the other, and that was it. But I'm like,

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that's pretty fucking cool. And the fact that seven people

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said it made it even cooler. For me.

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Speaker 5: It was funny because Will sent me I didn't know it,

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I wasn't following it during training camp, during the practice,

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and then Will sent me attack with it as on

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the link and he's like, what the hell.

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Speaker 1: You son? So that's very funny. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The biggest thrill from me on the Hard Knocks piece,

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the most exciting thing for me, and I really did

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enjoy it. And I know that there's somebody in this

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room who did not. And I don't know where you

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stand on this, but I loved seeing Dion Dawkins go

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drifting with his kids. Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: When I saw that, I thought to myself, is the

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Department of Social Services is going to show up at

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his house tomorrow because they had a helmet on that

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didn't fit.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, the helmet they had, they had a seatbelt,

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They had him in a in a.

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Speaker 6: In a restraint of seatbelt. That was not a proof

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of their size and age.

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Speaker 5: No, if they were in a car, a street car, right,

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they he could have been he could have been ticketed.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And is it bad that I was more concerned

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about the left tackle of the Buffalo Bills getting injured

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than his kid, because that's that's.

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Speaker 3: That's what horrified me.

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, I'm watching, You're not where he's drifting.

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You're not going to hit anything.

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Speaker 3: I didn't I know where that is, by the way, Yeah,

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it's on the reservation. Yeah, okay, it was not. I

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supposed to say that. There's a lot of them.

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Speaker 6: No, you're not supposed to say that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Oh that's just I really didn't know why I

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didn't say yeah, No, I honestly didn't. I just know

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that they've been drifting. Now, I've done drifting. And they

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did a whole drifting show in Rochester that was on

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Netflix and didn't get renewed for season two. But my

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buddy Kevin van Volkemberg was brought into service to repair

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all the cars. Oh my god, we were talking this

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is down on Kodak and those guys were hitting light

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posts and things where he was Yeah, yeah, there was nothing.

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It was all wide open and these guys are like,

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they'll they'll drift through obstacle courses. I don't know enough

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about drifting. It's not it's cool to do. It's not

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something I've ever really focused on. And when I'm I

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I love that with cars.

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Speaker 5: I really didn't have any concerns about him driving it

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only because some people who drive with me think that

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I drift normally right, and so you know, he was

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in control of the car. There wasn't like big spaces

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where he could get a ton of speed and then

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there were the issues with it.

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Speaker 6: So I didn't I wasn't work. That wasn't for me.

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Speaker 5: If he was drag racing on the road or something,

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I'd be like, okay, you can catch him air that

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that can get dangerous.

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Speaker 1: It was it was the kids.

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Speaker 6: I was thinking, Oh my god, why why who did

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he consolet with?

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Speaker 1: I don't think who.

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Speaker 3: Did HBO consult with? Who did the bills pr?

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Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe they're showing there with nobody.

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And I thought the same thing with the kid. I

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go the kid like only because we're in twenty twenty five.

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If you weigh more than ninety pounds right under night.

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Excuse me, if you're under ninety pounds, you're in a

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back seat that's rear facing, right, you're that's the car

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seat you're in.

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Speaker 4: Billy used that joke once doing a comedy show. This

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hot shit got up to walk off, and she had

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a little bit of a rattle with her shake, and

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he goes, hey, you know, hey, where you go. You know,

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if you're under ninety pounds, you got to work. Use

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a car seat.

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Speaker 1: Car seat out in the back window.

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Speaker 3: She started laughing.

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Speaker 1: They know they're laughing. The difference there. I go, Man,

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that'd be great. If she gets drunk and she's yapping,

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you just throw it in the car. So it's nice,

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drill traffic. Let her look out the rear window. But

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it's true, right, and then so you see this and

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the helmets, you're right, they're not built for a kid's head.

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And I don't know drifting cars well enough, but most

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stuff where you're doing, I'll call it acrobatics in a car,

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whether it be racing, whether it be drag racing. Their

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harness their harness seats because they go over and they

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strap you in. So you may because a lot of

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those I don't know about modern day race cars, but

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a lot of guys who drag their old cars, they

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don't have airbags, so you need that harness in there.

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And I would think for drifting that didn't look like

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although retro. I was gonna say it was definitely a

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modified BMW, but I couldn't tell what years, and it.

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Speaker 5: Was modified specifically for that. I mean he had the

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aerodynamics and everything specifically for that. But you know, and

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if you gotta know Dion, that's Dion, and Dion would

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never know put of course not be hurt. But I

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will say that the laws in certain parts of New

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York State apply differently to the people that are on

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that premises versus people who are off the premises.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's why.

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Speaker 5: All right, So the laws if you're in a certain

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Speaker 1: Yes, the moment that cuts my hair?

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 5: She was actually standing in front of us, yes, and uh.

470
00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:04,480
And then we saw each other and she came over

471
00:23:04,599 --> 00:23:06,039
and we took a picture to send to you.

472
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,599
Speaker 6: She's like, where's Bill. I'm like, I thought he was

473
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:08,119
gonna be here.

474
00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, Bill, I've been laying low. July

475
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,880
was a lost month for me. It was just like

476
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:15,759
I lost that month.

477
00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 5: That was that was crazy, so killers man, there was

478
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,119
so many opportunities for that to be like a pivotal

479
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,279
great moment of Finger Lakes Semac Bill's training camp, and

480
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,599
it felt on a dud.

481
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,079
Speaker 6: It was so anti climactic for me.

482
00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: It just well, I did see the confetti, yeah coming down.

483
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,759
Speaker 6: Seemac did a great job with that.

484
00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

485
00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 6: And Sarah Axerrod, he runs Semac.

486
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,559
Speaker 5: I mean she put her heart and soul and trying

487
00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:48,400
to make something happen, to make some you know, for

488
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,960
the patrons of seam Act, to make a special in

489
00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:55,640
the mafia and between the Bills and the Killers and everything.

490
00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:57,960
It just was one of those things where it just

491
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,440
didn't work. What you know, you got twenty year old

492
00:24:01,519 --> 00:24:04,880
guys that you're throwing a complication or two or here

493
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,799
or there, and you have a curfew and yeah, all

494
00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:10,960
of a sudden, it's just easier. There was a lot

495
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:13,319
of good plans for that to happen, a lot of

496
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,279
cool things that happen, and it just didn't come to fruition.

497
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:18,400
It was a great show and I really enjoyed it.

498
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,200
The anti climactic thing for me, and I'm sure you

499
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:26,160
have listeners that were there. Was when they came on

500
00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:30,480
to sing the last song, and he says, he says,

501
00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:34,000
h don't tell anyone, but when we sing the song,

502
00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:38,279
we're Bill's fans. And that was the only acknowledgment to

503
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,960
the Bill's mafia and to the Bills fans that were there.

504
00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:43,839
Speaker 6: It was it hit like a lead balloon.

505
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 5: Ah. And when you if you were there and you

506
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:50,559
looked at the crowd two Thursdays, seventy five percent of

507
00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:52,880
the people there, yeah, had something Bills on.

508
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,079
Speaker 6: Yep, like the Sure or a hat or something.

509
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean, women, men, Sure, cons Farrish, Shurely Ferris, that's

510
00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:04,920
a nice ship.

511
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,759
Speaker 5: And so it was kind of like, you know, there

512
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:09,759
was some anticipation or acknowledge that Vineyard and vine was

513
00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:13,319
It's I don't know what it is, yes.

514
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: He does now.

515
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 5: The night before the night before I was at Joe

516
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:21,920
Rule and Nelly at Darien Lake, Okay, and those guys

517
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:22,759
wrought it.

518
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: I fucking love this. Oh God, I love this. You

519
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:31,200
were that Yeah, Yeah, joh Rule and Nelly. I mean, honestly,

520
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,920
nowadays that's little old school Verrier, right, old school.

521
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was old schools killers.

522
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget Killers early two thousands. I always listened

523
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:45,000
to the Killers when I would mow my lawn and

524
00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:47,880
I had the house in Pittsford and that had to

525
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,480
be like five and I did not have an iPad iPod.

526
00:25:51,519 --> 00:25:55,240
I had some other CD. It wasn't even that it was.

527
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,720
It was an m P three player, but it wasn't

528
00:25:57,799 --> 00:25:58,319
your phone.

529
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 3: Assume it was the Zoo.

530
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 5: So we're at Darren Lake with Jock and Nelly after

531
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,599
the Red and Blue. I was on the drive home something.

532
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 6: Why why not stop right?

533
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: Yeah?

534
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,319
Speaker 5: Sure, they talked about they they blew up the Bill's Mafia,

535
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,359
the Buffalo Bills. They were all about it, and every

536
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,720
time they had mentioned it, the crowd would go errupt

537
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:23,319
and just go crazy. And they really played it, which

538
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,720
gave it an additional energy to the crowd and to

539
00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:27,640
them as they were playing, because you know, you feed

540
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,240
off each other, and I just didn't. The Killers had

541
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:34,960
an opportunity, and whoever their business manager is, they did

542
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,519
not capitalize. I mean, they could have had hard knocks there.

543
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:41,480
They could have done that, and they just didn't. They didn't.

544
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 6: It didn't happen.

545
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:46,319
Speaker 1: And if you got hard knocks involved, there would have

546
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,000
been players there.

547
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 6: Well yeah, yeah, but you saw that they did.

548
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 5: They did bring in mister Brightside, they did bring in

549
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:56,720
the song, they had all that, but it was it

550
00:26:56,839 --> 00:26:59,480
was an after a fact creation of all those things,

551
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:02,559
as opposed to what I what could have been an

552
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,039
organic celebration of you know, having them wearing the Josh

553
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,640
Allen jersey, the Dawson Knox.

554
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 6: The Dalton Kincaid.

555
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 5: Could have had Dawson Anlyx there, Dalton there Ja there, yeah,

556
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,319
you know, and and I mean that it would have

557
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,400
been a great theater for both Hard Knocks, the Bills

558
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,839
and CMAC and the finger Lakes. And so it's just,

559
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,200
you know, sometimes artists are artists, you can't. You know,

560
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,480
it's the creative arts.

561
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: It is the creative arts. And you're right, people can

562
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:39,359
get temperamental, and there are egos involved, that's the other thing.

563
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,640
And to be feel like you're going to be upstates

564
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,200
on your stage, which isn't the case. They're incorporating you

565
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,799
into their world and vice versa. And that's what music

566
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:54,160
should be. And I always say, like, you know, we'll

567
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,680
talk about this in a little while, but you look

568
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,000
at life a little differently. I think that all life

569
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,599
is is feeling because we go back with music to

570
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,119
a feeling we had the person, the feeling, the things,

571
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,839
to the smell that brings back the memory of the feeling.

572
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,839
That's really all we have in this life to take

573
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,640
with us. And it's too bad because I think, I

574
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,759
think what you said about artist is pretty accurate there.

575
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,519
Speaker 5: You know, and it's like, you know, my dad's passed

576
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:25,799
away twenty five years ago. I'll hear songs that remind

577
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,440
me of when we were together twenty five years ago,

578
00:28:28,599 --> 00:28:31,599
tallgating at Bill's games, and it takes me right back

579
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,960
to that moment when I was thirty years old, I

580
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:35,160
was twenty five years old.

581
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,759
Speaker 6: That's what music does.

582
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,319
Speaker 5: And I don't want to say they robed like an

583
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:43,519
opportunity to have that, but it just kind of it was.

584
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,480
It was anti climactic. It was there was an opportunity

585
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,160
and it just feels like it was squandered. But we

586
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:50,599
all had a great time. I mean it was a

587
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,079
great show.

588
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,759
Speaker 1: It looked like it was a good crowd too. I

589
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,680
was a great crowd.

590
00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:57,359
Speaker 5: It was huge, But again, you know, and everybody that

591
00:28:57,519 --> 00:29:00,519
was there, knowing what was going on and knowing how

592
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,799
hard the people at Siemac were trying to make it

593
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,759
extra special for the patrons that were there and for

594
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,359
the finger Lakes and all of it.

595
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 6: It just was like, damn man, it could have been

596
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,200
like next level. I mean it truly could have been.

597
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:21,119
Speaker 5: A viral next level occurrence that I mean. Look, I

598
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,880
mean I like the Killers, but I'm a Bruno guys.

599
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,359
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well Bruno speaks to you, Bruno. Yeah, community,

600
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,400
there's a vibe, there's but there is there's a whole

601
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:31,079
vibe with him.

602
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 5: To me, the Killers have become relevant in the last

603
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:37,880
two years because of the Bills. I agree their resurgence

604
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,559
is because of the Bills mafia. In my opinion, well,

605
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,599
there are a few things.

606
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:43,599
Speaker 3: The Bills are part of it.

607
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 4: Michigan and Alabama would play that song in the third

608
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:50,720
between the third and fourth quarters, long before they did

609
00:29:50,759 --> 00:29:52,759
it with the Bills. I think the Bills research is

610
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:55,519
because that's there's a video got it from yeah, Josh Allen,

611
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:57,799
and there's a wedding where they're attending maybe it was

612
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,119
Dawson Dawson.

613
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:01,039
Speaker 3: And they're all the songs. So then they went viral.

614
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 4: So of course they start playing at the stadium and

615
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,599
then it became a Bill's song, you know, like every

616
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,880
college football team has a certain song they go to.

617
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,440
Several college football programs have adopted mister Bright's side.

618
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: I think. I also think that the Killers. I think

619
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:20,000
they live in Vegas and they just go out on

620
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:21,759
the streets. Sometimes it's set up and play.

621
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: That's cool, just like they'll go down to Fremont Street.

622
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: It just start.

623
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,519
Speaker 6: I doubt he wears that black sequence pants black shirt.

624
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 4: The Mormons really, yes, I didn't know that Brandon Flowers.

625
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:37,119
Brandon Flowers is a Mormon. They actually have an interview

626
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,920
with him and Richard Dawkins. I like talking about like

627
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:44,640
the faith versus eighth years Dawks. Uh, maybe it's Christopher Hitchets,

628
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,519
one of the two of them.

629
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,519
Speaker 1: Dawks, Dad, if you saw, not even close.

630
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: It was either Chris Christopher, but the one who's still alive,

631
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:55,440
the two of them, like, you know.

632
00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 5: But the interesting thing and again I mean I like,

633
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,359
I like the Killers. They're not a band that I

634
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,079
would like run to. But the band itself is interesting

635
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,799
because you have the lead that had the sequence full outfit,

636
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,119
and then you have the band members and they look

637
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,720
like they look like they.

638
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,559
Speaker 6: Were from horn Out. They had long beard, scruffy T shirt, jeans.

639
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: You know, they look like they look like the guys

640
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,720
that went to high school.

641
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: They just stuffed out of the tasting room of a

642
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,039
craft brewery.

643
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.

644
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:30,559
Speaker 5: It was interesting and it was like, what a contrast

645
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,279
between the front guy and the other guys, right, So

646
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:35,359
I thought there'd be an interesting like and I was

647
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:38,839
very optimistic that they would all kind of like jump

648
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,160
in at the end and create this great enthusiastic.

649
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,119
Speaker 6: Environment of it and it but but you know what

650
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,119
it look, it's fun. We're end of the season. We

651
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,160
still embrace mister Bright's side.

652
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,359
Speaker 1: Sure, and we have football now every Sunday and every

653
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,480
Sunday till till Baladi.

654
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: By the way, if you get a chance, look up

655
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,119
on the on YouTube the Killers doing doing Born to

656
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Speaker 5: What's interesting is it I've watched people now come around

705
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:58,079
Josh who are you know, seasoned business veterans in Rochester

706
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,719
and Buffalo, even politician, and Josh walks up and people

707
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:09,079
go wow, like swallow them like they can't talk, and it's, uh,

708
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,719
you know, it's just an interesting dynamic that when you

709
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,440
get somebody that's like great, you know, bigger than life,

710
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:18,639
you think. And then and he's such a goofball and

711
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,119
he makes you know, he's so you know, I'll say disarming.

712
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,480
Is that you just kind of like if you have

713
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:26,880
a teenage son, then you can talk to Josh Allen.

714
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,480
You can talk here Josh Josh, because he really is

715
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:33,719
like this happy, go lucky good guy and he just

716
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,840
loves and any any like stupid trivia when it comes

717
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,920
to movies or different things. He's that guy like when

718
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,400
you watch Hard Knocks. He's talk he's talking to Terry Pagoula.

719
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 6: He's looking for things to like be able to like

720
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,679
talk about, to be like funny and quip and and

721
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,800
and that.

722
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 5: You know, that's what when you have a superstar like

723
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:56,039
him that has that groundedness.

724
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 6: I mean it's transformational. I mean it's unique.

725
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,679
Speaker 3: He was talking about gravity. At one point, I was like,

726
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,840
what are you talking about?

727
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: He was, They were having it that. That's right. They

728
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,880
did get a little deep.

729
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: A trifical force or something like.

730
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: That about you brought you say the word grounded. I

731
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,159
notice something because I did go to training camp and

732
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:22,440
I noticed something that I'm wondering if it will be

733
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:26,400
featured on Hard Knocks or not. And I'm gonna call

734
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,760
it grounding where they had players with some of the

735
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,840
trainers walking around barefoot on the field. And I'm just

736
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,800
telling you from because I have another podcast called Bill

737
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Lightman where we talk more about the spiritual, worldly kind

738
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,119
of stuff. That that's a big thing. Like they're even

739
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:46,880
in Australia.

740
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,039
Speaker 6: Now it's not a trainer.

741
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:51,119
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not a trainer. Well, I watched a couple

742
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:54,360
guys and I go, that's an interesting thing. Because there

743
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,360
are times where I will grab a cup of coffee

744
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,159
and walk out my front door and just walk on

745
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,400
the grass in the morning early on. Uh. But I've

746
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,679
been doing that. I've been doing that for years. But

747
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,639
it was weird to see them do it. Like I'm

748
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,679
watching Greg after am I and I'm standing there. I

749
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:15,400
was a guest of doctor Rice who threw fishers and yes,

750
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:17,960
you were at his house. He uh is the head

751
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,280
of the mental health the farmer over there, and and

752
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,119
we're watching it and I went wow, and he goes, yeah,

753
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,719
they're grounding these guys, And I go, that's an interesting thing.

754
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,559
It's almost like you can feel your This is gonna

755
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:33,039
sound really weird and kind of queer. You're like one

756
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:35,079
with the earth, but you can feel the Earth's vibrations.

757
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,239
There's a greater connection to the ground. There's a little

758
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,679
more grounding for you. It brings you sort of down

759
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:44,880
a dirt. Yes, but I mean yes, but but I

760
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,360
thought that was interesting. I hadn't seen that anywhere, and

761
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,280
there were a couple a number of players doing it,

762
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,079
and I thought it was a trainer, not a trainer.

763
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's part of their you know, the it's the

764
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,400
mac Collins effect.

765
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: Actually is it really is.

766
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 5: And then they've got a you know, I guess I'll

767
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,239
say a team psychologist that in part of it with Mac,

768
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,159
brought to the whole whole team and just the whole

769
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,280
concept of like being grounded and getting in touch with

770
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,320
yourself is like touching the earth. You know.

771
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:16,639
Speaker 1: I think it's so true.

772
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:19,159
Speaker 5: And I can tell you after practice there are multiple

773
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:23,239
players that walk the field and having to have someone

774
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,400
they talk to as they're going up, and what they're

775
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,800
doing is that they're talking about practice, the things that

776
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,480
happen in practice, the things that occurred, how it occurred,

777
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:35,639
what they would do differently, how they prepare for the

778
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,639
next day. And and again I mean in terms of

779
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,320
dealing with life, is that those are the things that

780
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,719
you should be, you should do in terms of enjoy,

781
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:46,960
enjoy the moment and prepare.

782
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 6: For the future.

783
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: Mac no longer with the Buffalo Bills. He's with a

784
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,039
goddamn page case, and that is where my concern comes in.

785
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:58,480
They've been having joint practices with the Commanders. They're going

786
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:01,320
to play the Commandators in their first preseason game this weekend.

787
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:04,719
Rabel is their new head coach. Yeah, there was a

788
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,800
scrum on the field between the Commanders and the and

789
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,239
he jumped in the middle and he got punched in

790
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,719
the face and had blood dripping down his face and

791
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,880
all this stuff. And what concerns me is like, he's

792
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,159
gonna rally the fucking troops, Greg, because they know he

793
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,079
was a player. He played fourteen years in the league.

794
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:25,880
He played with the Chiefs, he played with the Patriots.

795
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,440
I forget the other team. There was a third team

796
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,679
I believe in there and this guy, and I go,

797
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,280
he is going to turn this team around, and I

798
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,199
don't want him to.

799
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think at this point right now,

800
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,840
is that I think the Patriots are a team. The

801
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Patriots are a team that will win games because they

802
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:48,159
had him as a coach. Yeah, but they don't have

803
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,360
the talent and they don't have they don't they don't

804
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,639
have the people they need in the right spots yet.

805
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:56,760
But if that team gets.

806
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,039
Speaker 1: Some turnovers, Dan, Yeah, this is what they're saying.

807
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:01,519
Speaker 5: They're in a game there, dangerous, they're a score or

808
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:03,039
two down, and then they get a turnover in the

809
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:05,239
second half and they're they're within one score.

810
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 6: They can make things happen that they can upset a

811
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,440
team or two.

812
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll close it out. I want to. I'll change

813
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,000
this up a little bit because Greg sent me a

814
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:19,079
really nice message when my dad passed and it was, uh,

815
00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:21,719
we now have that in common too, and Danny has

816
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,599
lost his dad. And I'll just ask you this, what

817
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,639
did it do for you when when you lost your dad?

818
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:31,840
And I asked that because I feel like I need

819
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,519
to I am and I need to continue to step

820
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:40,039
up my game. And I don't know what it is.

821
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:43,960
It's like I've made some pretty significant changes in certain relationships,

822
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,639
have drawn boundaries in certain areas and I don't know

823
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,199
it's all been around that. Would it have happened anyway? Maybe,

824
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,840
but it certainly seems to be one of these things

825
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,960
where you're like, oh shit, yeah, your your safety, your

826
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:02,119
guardrail is gone, right. I don't know if that's how

827
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:04,840
you feel. It's just different I think with guys then,

828
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:05,559
I don't know.

829
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's for me and my dad passed away. I

830
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:12,880
was I was thirty and uh, I mean he was

831
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,639
my he was my guy, he was my best friend.

832
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,639
And uh, it was one of those things where when

833
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:20,079
it when it went away.

834
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,119
Speaker 6: It was like where do I go right, and I

835
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:22,880
was a bit lost.

836
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, it took me a bit to kind of figure

837
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,400
it out, right, and uh, and what what kind of

838
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,199
as a you know, and you talk about the alpha, right,

839
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,519
you know, for me, it was like, I'm in control

840
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:38,719
of my life and I want to make my parents proud.

841
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:40,079
Speaker 3: So what do I gotta do?

842
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:40,599
Speaker 1: Yeah?

843
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:43,159
Speaker 5: And the question was am I going to step up

844
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:45,800
and do it? Or am I gonna have excuses? And

845
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,599
am I gonna find reasons not to do it? And

846
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:53,599
and I made a commitment that to myself and and

847
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,239
to and to honor my dad and the life that

848
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,159
he lived and his father is that.

849
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 6: My dad did everything for us.

850
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,599
Speaker 5: My dad sacrificed his life to do what he thought

851
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:06,880
was in the best purse of us kids. And you know,

852
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,960
up to that point in time, I lived my life

853
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,639
for me. Yeah, it was about me because my dad

854
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,000
allowed me the comfort to do that. And then I

855
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:19,280
all of a sudden had to think about beyond myself

856
00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:24,719
and in in you know, as an it's an inspiration.

857
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 6: And we talked about it earlier. I think we might

858
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:27,599
have been off the air.

859
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 5: Is that, you know, there are times and it's twenty

860
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,159
five years later, I'll hear a song that'll bring you

861
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,960
back to that time and it just grips me.

862
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had a few of those moments, not as many,

863
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,599
and certainly as you know, my dad was I'm fifty

864
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:48,639
something years old, right, so I haven't lived under the

865
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,760
same roof as him. It was my brother who took

866
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,440
him to be closer to where my brother lived, so

867
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:59,239
I didn't have that. But there will be those, you know, holidays.

868
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,239
Certainly the calls. We had some pretty great discussions over

869
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,440
the past couple of years on the phone. I would

870
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,760
always sort of enjoy that. I think one of the

871
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,239
sweetest things that I heard was my youngest son say

872
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,760
to me, I really feel guilty because you know, sometimes

873
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,280
you would get on the phone with him and he

874
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,719
just keep talking and talking and talking, and that was

875
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,119
sort of our joke. Even with my dad. He would

876
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,360
always go, oh wait, wait, wait, one more thing. Yeah,

877
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,440
like we're getting off the phone and go I'm all

878
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:28,800
talked out. I got nothing to say, oh wait, wait, wait,

879
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,719
one more thing. And we felt like when he was dying,

880
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:34,159
like it was wait, wait, wait, one more thing, because

881
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:36,400
it just hung on and hung on. And it's sort

882
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,320
of a joke, but I'll miss those sort of things,

883
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,039
and I'll miss a little bit because he and I

884
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,239
had certainly become much closer over the past couple of years,

885
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,559
some of the guidance stuff. I was really open with

886
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:51,159
him about a lot of stuff, you know, and that

887
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:55,400
you're right, because there's not a lot of it's your

888
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:58,440
dad and when you get to a point where you

889
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:01,960
can talk as and and forgive me if this sounds

890
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,119
almost misogynistic, but as men man to man, right, that's

891
00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:10,159
a big thing. And he's hearing you, but you're looking

892
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,400
to him as the advisor because he's still your dad.

893
00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:14,880
And I'm telling him shit that I thought I would

894
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:16,920
never tell them, but I'm telling them.

895
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know about you, Dan, but there

896
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,639
was a there was a time.

897
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 5: You know, probably you always you never want to disappoint

898
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,719
your parents, never, but there was a point in time

899
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,039
where you realize you could trust them and you could

900
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,559
say whatever you wanted and he wasn't going to judge you,

901
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,360
or he wasn't going to think anything less of you.

902
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,079
And but that's a special relationship that a child has

903
00:44:38,159 --> 00:44:40,840
with their parents. And I'm sure, I'm sure you know

904
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,320
girls have it with their moms. Maybe with their dads too,

905
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,800
Maybe with their dads. I mean my mom, you know me,

906
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:50,559
not as much as I do with my dad. But

907
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,960
I told my dad things that I had I had

908
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:55,639
never shared and have to that to this day, never

909
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,840
shared with another person. And those are probably the things

910
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,480
that missed most where it wasn't judgmental, Right, I think

911
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,199
I upset to you before, Bill, and maybe to you Dan,

912
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,920
is that for me, there's only one love that's truly

913
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:11,760
unconditional in my opinion, and that's the love of a

914
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,760
parent to a child.

915
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, and once when you're a child and you understand that,

916
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:19,840
you then I think.

917
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 5: You have a trust and a confidence that you can

918
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:24,239
say and share things that you would never share.

919
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 6: And when it's gone, it's.

920
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,639
Speaker 3: Gone, it's gone.

921
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,679
Speaker 1: Right. It's just it's just an interesting thing and I

922
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:34,039
really appreciate it actually when you wrote that we have

923
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:35,719
that in common, and I'm like, yeah, we do. And

924
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,960
that's a different thing, and I don't think it's ever

925
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:42,360
really discussed. And that's kind of what I do. I

926
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:48,800
pick at the sore spot. Oh, Greg, it's.

927
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 6: Good to see it.

928
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:52,199
Speaker 1: The Bill's Mafia had I love it, love the shirt.

929
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:58,719
I still think it's finding Vine. I have no idea. Danny.

930
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,880
I love Danny take on Dion Dawkins being freaked out

931
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,920
about it's drifting. I thought the drifting was great.

932
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,039
Speaker 3: Fans too with the freaking boy oh god boas dude.

933
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: Like that was crazy.

934
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,159
Speaker 3: But most teams have contracts for you can't do stuff

935
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,119
like that. Yeah, we had two instances of one show.

936
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 6: It's not venomous, it's a contrictor.

937
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's only gonna choke you in a death that

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it's fine.

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Speaker 1: Well he's so big around him, Fine, alright. For Greg Connors,

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for Dan Brilla on Bill Moran, We'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Don Worth, he is a land up opportunity for me.

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Speaker 6: Is just a curse that judge and make us be