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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to close your eyes for a second. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>don't close them if you're driving, obviously, but picture the

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<v Speaker 2>absolute worst place you can possibly imagine. Okay, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean the DMV on a Friday afternoon, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean a crowded subway car where the ac has broken.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a place where the environment itself is actively

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<v Speaker 2>trying to kill you in about four different ways. Simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 3>You're painting a lovely picture.

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<v Speaker 2>I try my dest but seriously, imagine a world where

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<v Speaker 2>the air pressure is so heavy it would crush a

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear submarine like an empty soda can. The temperature is

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<v Speaker 2>hot enough to melt lead, literally, a pool of lead

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<v Speaker 2>would be a liquid puddle on the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Four hundred and seventy five degrees celsius, just searing.

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<v Speaker 2>And to top it off. The clouds aren't made of

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<v Speaker 2>water vapor, they are made of concentrated sulfuric acid.

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<v Speaker 3>You are describing, of course, Earth's so called evil.

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<v Speaker 2>Twin Venus, the planet that has been the graveyard of

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<v Speaker 2>so many robotic explorers.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a fortress, that is the best way to

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<v Speaker 3>describe it. Historically, when we send landers there, like the

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<v Speaker 3>Soviet venera probes back in the day, they survive for

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<v Speaker 3>maybe an hour maybe two, before the electronics fry or

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<v Speaker 3>the whole buckles just get cooked and crushed instantly. It

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<v Speaker 3>is a world that keeps its secrets very very well

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<v Speaker 3>hidden under those thick, toxic clouds.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. It's the ultimate look but don't touch scenario. But today, Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>February nine, twenty twenty six, we are not just looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the fortress walls. We are cracking them open because

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<v Speaker 2>there is breaking news today that fundamentally shifts our understanding

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<v Speaker 2>of this healthscape.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does. This is one of those days when

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<v Speaker 3>the textbooks get a little update.

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<v Speaker 2>Researchers from the University of Trento have confirmed the first

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<v Speaker 2>direct physical evidence of a subsurface lava tube, essentially a

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<v Speaker 2>massive cave on Venus.

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<v Speaker 3>And we need to be clear about the magnitude of this.

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<v Speaker 3>We aren't talking about a suspicion. We aren't talking about

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<v Speaker 3>a mathematical model that suggests maybe there are caves.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't a we think, No, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Are talking about hard evidence, a direct observation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the difference between guessing your neighbor has a

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<v Speaker 2>basement and actually seeing the stairs leading down into.

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<v Speaker 3>The dark precisely, and finding this on Venus, of all places. Yea,

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<v Speaker 3>the steaks are huge. We have seen lava tubes on Mars,

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<v Speaker 3>we have seen them on the Moon. They are fascinating

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<v Speaker 3>there right, But finding one on Venus hidden beneath that

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<v Speaker 3>opaque atmosphere validates decades of geological theory.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are basing this entire deep dive on the

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<v Speaker 2>primary source material. A brand new paper published today in

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<v Speaker 2>Nature Communications titled Radar based Observation of a Lava Tube

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<v Speaker 2>on Venus. It's led by Lorenzo Bruzon and his team

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<v Speaker 2>at the University of Trento.

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<v Speaker 3>A fantastic piece of research. It is incredibly detailed.

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<v Speaker 2>And our mission for this deep dive is to really

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<v Speaker 2>unpack this discovery. We aren't just talking about a hole

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<v Speaker 2>in the ground Now we need to talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>detective story. How they found this using data that is

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<v Speaker 2>technically older than I am. We need to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the sheer scale of this thing, because when I read

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers, my jaw hit the floor. This isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>crawl space, it's a tunnel large enough to fit a

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<v Speaker 2>city block.

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<v Speaker 3>It puts our terrestrial case to shame utterly.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, we're going to discuss what this tells us

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<v Speaker 2>about the volcanic history of our planetary neighbor. So buckle up,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going beneath.

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<v Speaker 3>The clouds into the dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with the detective story. Because usually when we

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<v Speaker 2>get breaking space news in twenty twenty six, it's from

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<v Speaker 2>a flashy new robot. Right, We're used to the James

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<v Speaker 2>Webb Space Telescope beaming back higher images of galaxies, or

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<v Speaker 2>a rover on Mars drilling a new hole.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, we are accustomed to fresh data, new photons, hitting

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<v Speaker 2>But that is not what happened here. This discovery is

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a ghost story.

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<v Speaker 3>It is to understand why you have to understand the

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<v Speaker 3>fundamental problem with exploring Venus. If you orbit Mars, you

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<v Speaker 3>can bring a nice optical camera basically a really expensive

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<v Speaker 2>Of the surface and you see the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see the red rocks, the dust devils, the

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<v Speaker 3>crater rims. It's intuitive. We understand pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you orbit Venus and take a photo, you.

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<v Speaker 3>See a cue ball. You see a bright, featureless white sphere.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe if you swirls in the upper atmosphere, but that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of the clouds.

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<v Speaker 3>The atmosphere is incredibly thick and opaque. Visible light just

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<v Speaker 3>bounces off the top of the cloud deck. You cannot

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<v Speaker 3>see the ground. So if you want to map the

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<v Speaker 3>surface of Venus, you cannot use a camera. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to use radar.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to scream at the planet and listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the echo.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a very aggressive way to put it, but yes, essentially,

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<v Speaker 3>you bounce radio waves off the surface and measure how

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<v Speaker 3>they come back to you, the timing, the strength that

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<v Speaker 3>builds a picture.

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<v Speaker 2>And that brings us to the time capsule aspect of

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<v Speaker 2>today's news. The data that the University of Trento team

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<v Speaker 2>used it didn't come from a ship currently orbiting Venus. No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it came from NASA's Magellan.

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<v Speaker 3>Spacecraft, which is a name that should trigger some nostalgia

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<v Speaker 3>for some of our listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, Magellan launched in nineteen eighty nine. It was deployed

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<v Speaker 2>from the Space Shuttle Atlantis. I mean we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>a different era of space exploration, pre Internet.

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<v Speaker 3>Practically, it mapped Venus between nineteen ninety and nineteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, nineteen ninety to nineteen ninety two, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>It was intentionally steered into the atmosphere and burned up

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's pause and appreciate this. The spacecraft has been

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<v Speaker 2>vaporized for over thirty years.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gone completely gone.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are still making headline discoveries in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six from the data it's sent back when the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>was barely a concept.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a testament to the quality of that mission.

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<v Speaker 3>Magellan was a workhorse, mapped about ninety eight percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the Venusian surface with its radar. But it also highlights

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<v Speaker 3>a very important concept in modern science data archaeology.

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<v Speaker 2>Data archaeology. I love that term. It makes me picture

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana Jones, but instead of a whip, he has a hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Drive, ideally with fewer movie traps. But the concept is sound.

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<v Speaker 3>The pixels, so to speak, the raw radar returns were

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<v Speaker 3>always there. They were sitting in NASA's Planetary Data System archives,

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<v Speaker 3>just waiting, just waiting. But in nineteen ninety two, we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have the processing power we had today. We didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have the sophisticated algorithms to filter out noise and enhance

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<v Speaker 3>the signal. It was cutting edge for its time, but

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<v Speaker 3>by our standards, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like trying to play a modern video game on a

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<v Speaker 2>computer from nineteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 3>You just can't exactly. The hardware and software couldn't do

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<v Speaker 3>what we can do now.

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<v Speaker 2>So the picture didn't change, but our glasses got better.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a perfect analogy. The data is a fixed asset,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't rot, but our ability to understand it evolves.

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<v Speaker 3>Lorenzo Bruzon and his team at the Remote Sensing Laboratory

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<v Speaker 3>that's the University of Trento. They didn't just casually scroll

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<v Speaker 3>through the old images.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this wasn't an accident.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they developed a specific new imaging technique. They created

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<v Speaker 3>new tools to look at this old information.

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<v Speaker 2>They were looking for something specific, right.

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't just browsing, No, this was a targeted hunt.

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<v Speaker 3>Their goal, as stated in the paper, was to detect

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<v Speaker 3>and characterize underground conduits.

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<v Speaker 2>Conduits a fancy geological word for tunnels.

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<v Speaker 3>In this context, Yes, lavitat. They were looking for specific

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<v Speaker 3>surface anomalies that would hint at a hollow space beneath

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<v Speaker 2>So they are combing through this massive noisy data set

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<v Speaker 2>from the early nineties, applying these new algorithms to clean

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<v Speaker 2>it up, to filter out the static.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and they focused their attention on a region called

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<v Speaker 3>nix Mons. Nex Mons a fitting name for a dark discovery.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that? What does it mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Nix is the Greek goddess of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Spooky like it, so a mountain of night.

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<v Speaker 3>Nix Mons is a large vulcanic rise in the northern

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<v Speaker 3>hemisphere of Venus. It's a place that has fascinated geologists

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<v Speaker 3>for a while because it shows signs of heavy volcanic activity,

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<v Speaker 3>lots of lava flows, lots of fractures. It's a geologically

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<v Speaker 3>interesting place.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're going to find a giant lava tube,

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<v Speaker 2>a big volcano is a good place to start looking,

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<v Speaker 2>the best place. Okay, so they are looking at nix

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<v Speaker 2>Bond's But here is the part that confuses people, and

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<v Speaker 2>it confused me at first. You said, Magellan used radar

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<v Speaker 2>to map the surface.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Radar bounces off to ground. It doesn't go through the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>That is correct. At least Magellan's specific radar frequency could

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<v Speaker 3>not penetrate deep into the rock. It just tells you

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<v Speaker 3>what the surface looks like. It's roughness, it's slope.

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<v Speaker 2>So if there is a tunnel underground and the roof

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<v Speaker 2>is solid rock, Magellan would just see a flat plane.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't see the tunnel exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You would fly right over it and never know it

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<v Speaker 2>So how did they find it?

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<v Speaker 3>What was the clue they had to look for? The

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<v Speaker 3>smoking gun? In planetary geology, when you were hunting for

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<v Speaker 3>lava tubes, you're actually hunting for skylights.

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<v Speaker 2>A skylight oka that when I hear skylight, I think

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<v Speaker 2>of a nice window in a kitchen to let some

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<v Speaker 3>Not quite though. The principle of letting light in is similar,

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<v Speaker 3>or in this case, letting radar in.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about how a lava tube forms. You have a

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<v Speaker 3>river of lava, the top cools and hardens into a

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<v Speaker 3>roof because it's exposed to the air. The lava inside

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<v Speaker 3>keeps flowing and drains away, leaving a long hollow tunnel like.

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<v Speaker 2>A subway tunnel, but made of basalt.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, imagine a million years pass, maybe a meteor

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe gravity just wins and a section of that

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<v Speaker 3>roof becomes unstable.

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<v Speaker 2>It caves in.

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<v Speaker 3>It caves in, and that collapse creates a pit on

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<v Speaker 3>the surface, a hole. That pit is the skylight. It

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<v Speaker 3>connects the surface world to the underworld.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you spot the hole, you can infer the

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<v Speaker 2>room below it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the one.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't see the tunnel directly with Magellan's radar, but

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<v Speaker 3>That is the logic. And in the Magellan data, specifically

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<v Speaker 3>in the next Mons region, they found a series of

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<v Speaker 3>specific feature. It's marked as a in the study figures

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<v Speaker 3>that looked exactly like a skylight into a massive void.

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<v Speaker 2>But here is the tricky part. I've seen radar images.

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<v Speaker 2>They are weird. They don't look like normal photos.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not intuitive.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all backwards. How can they tell it's a deep

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<v Speaker 2>It is all about the shadows. This is where the

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<v Speaker 2>direction the radar illumination is coming from. Magellan wasn't directly overhead.

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<v Speaker 2>It's radar beam hit the surface at an angle.

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<v Speaker 3>The direction the spacecraft was shining its radio flashlight exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, imagine a deep vertical shaft. If you shine a

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<v Speaker 2>far wall is going to catch the light and be

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<v Speaker 2>very bright in your radar image.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it reflects the signal right back. But the near

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<v Speaker 3>the ring closest to you is going to cast a

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<v Speaker 3>shadow down into the hole, and the floor of the

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<v Speaker 3>pit will be in that shadow. It will look dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, okay, I'm visualizing that.

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<v Speaker 3>By analyzing how that shadow falls and specifically measuring the

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<v Speaker 3>length and intensity of the shadow within the pit, you

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<v Speaker 3>can calculate geometry. You can figure out that this isn't

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<v Speaker 3>a bowl shape like a crater. A crater has slope sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the shadow would look different.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked very different. The only model that fit the

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<v Speaker 3>data they were seeing was a deep, steep walled shaft.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing what you can do with shadows. It feels

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<v Speaker 2>very Sherlock Holmes. The shadow is three pixels long, Watson.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore the hole is four hundred meters deep.

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<v Speaker 3>It is essentially trigonometry in physics. Yeah, but yes, it

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<v Speaker 3>is detective work. They model the radar signals against different shapes,

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<v Speaker 3>a shallow crater, a deep pit, a cone, and the

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<v Speaker 3>only model that fit the data from Magellan was a

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<v Speaker 3>deep vertical skylight connecting to a subsurface void.

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<v Speaker 2>And that void. Well, that's the part that really blew

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<v Speaker 2>my mind when I was reading the briefing, because we

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about a little cross space.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we're not.

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<v Speaker 2>We really need to get into the numbers here. The

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<v Speaker 2>scale of this thing is hard to wrap your head around.

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<v Speaker 3>It is massive, genuinely geologically massive.

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<v Speaker 2>Start with the diameter. How wide is this tube?

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<v Speaker 3>The study estimates that diameter is approximately one kilometer one

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<v Speaker 3>one kilometer, yes, one thousand meters.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, stop and visualize that. Seriously, A kilometer is a

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<v Speaker 2>distinct distance. If you are driving on a highway, a

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<v Speaker 2>kilometer takes a moment to pass. Imagine a tunnel that wide.

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<v Speaker 2>You could fit the Burje Khalifa inside its sideways with

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<v Speaker 2>room to spare.

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<v Speaker 3>It is vastly larger than terrestrial lava tubes. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>even in the same ballpark. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to lava tubes in Hawaii, that Casumora Cave.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. It's a fantastic experience, but it's human scale.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, some parts are big, like a subway station,

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<v Speaker 2>but some parts you have to duck.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. On Earth, a large lava tube might be ten twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe thirty meters wide.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty meters would be a big one, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Finding one that is one hundred meters wide would be

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<v Speaker 3>a headline, a major discovery. This Venusian structure is on

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<v Speaker 3>a completely different scale. It is an order of magnitude larger.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not just the width, it's the protection. How

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<v Speaker 2>thick is the roof.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, the roof thickness. They estimated that there is at

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<v Speaker 3>least one hundred and fifty meters of solid rock shielding

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<v Speaker 3>this void from the surface.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a fifty story building worth of rock above your head,

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<v Speaker 2>just solid basalt, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The void itself. The empty space below that roof is

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<v Speaker 3>at least three hundred and seventy five meters.

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<v Speaker 2>Deep, So from the floor of the tube to the

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<v Speaker 2>ceiling is three hundred and seventy five meters at a minimum.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they can model from the shadows.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cavernous. It's practically an underground canyon. It's a cathedral geology.

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<v Speaker 3>And while the direct observation is limited to the area

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<v Speaker 3>around the skylight, because that's where we can see the shadow,

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<v Speaker 3>the morphology of the terrain suggests the tube extends for

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<v Speaker 3>a long way. You can see these chains of pits,

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<v Speaker 3>these other potential collapses.

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<v Speaker 2>So this one skylight is just one window into a

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<v Speaker 2>whole subway system, a huge one. How long do they

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<v Speaker 2>think it is?

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<v Speaker 3>They estimate this specific segment based on this rounding geology,

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<v Speaker 3>is at least forty five kilometers long.

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<v Speaker 2>A forty five kilometer tunnel one kilumeter wide, buried under

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<v Speaker 2>a mountain of rock. That is some serious infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 3>The researchers use the term pyroduct.

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<v Speaker 2>Pyroduct that sounds like a heavy metal band.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the formal scientific term pyro meaning fire duct,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning channel, a channel of fire.

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<v Speaker 2>The pyroducks of nix Mon's I'd buy that album.

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<v Speaker 3>It does have a certain ring to it, but it

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<v Speaker 3>describes exactly what this was. It was a massive plumbing

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<v Speaker 3>system for magma on a scale we just don't have

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<v Speaker 3>on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>But this brings up the question of why why is

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<v Speaker 2>everything on Venus so extra?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is the atmosphere so thick, the temperature so hot,

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<v Speaker 2>and now the cave's so enormous? Why is this tube

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<v Speaker 2>so much bigger than what we see on Earth or

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<v Speaker 2>even Mars?

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<v Speaker 3>Because we share a lot of DNA with Venus planet wise, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, and this is where we get into the fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>field of comparative planetology. It shows how the unique environment

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<v Speaker 2>of a planet dictates its geology. It's not just about

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<v Speaker 2>the rock, it's about the air and the gravity too.

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<v Speaker 3>We know lava tubes aren't unique to Venus, right, We've

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<v Speaker 3>seen them elsewhere correct, As we said, We see them

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<v Speaker 3>on Earth, usually in places with the saltic lava flows

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<v Speaker 3>like Hawaii, Iceland, the Canary Islands. We see them on Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen skylights on the slopes of the giant Martian

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<v Speaker 3>volcanoes like Rga Monds and the moon, and we see

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<v Speaker 3>them on the Moon. They're called sinuous rills. So the

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<v Speaker 3>recipe is the same lava flows, top cools, tube forms.

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<v Speaker 2>The mechanism is universal.

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<v Speaker 3>The mechanism is universal, but the ingredients, the environmental variables

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<v Speaker 3>are different. And the expert analysis in the paper points

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<v Speaker 3>to two main factors driving this massive scale on Venus.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hit me with them. What's the first?

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<v Speaker 3>One factor? One gravity?

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<v Speaker 2>Venus is slightly smaller than Earth, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Very slightly. It's gravity is about ninety percent of Earth's. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>that might not sound like a huge difference to you

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<v Speaker 3>or me. If you weigh one hundred pounds on Earth,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd weigh ninety on Venus.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice instant diet.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, But when we are talking about millions of tons

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<v Speaker 3>of molten rock flowing across a landscape, that ten percent

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<v Speaker 3>difference in gravity matters. Lower gravity allows lava flows to

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<v Speaker 3>be somewhat taller and wider because the fluid isn't being

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<v Speaker 3>pulled down quite as hard. The rock itself can support

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<v Speaker 3>larger structures that they're collapsing under its own weight.

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<v Speaker 2>So the roof can be wider without caving in.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, we see this effect on the Moon, where gravity

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<v Speaker 3>is very low one sixth the Earth's. The tubes there

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<v Speaker 3>are huge hundreds of meters wide, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Venus's gravity is pretty close to Earth's. That ten percent

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<v Speaker 2>can't be the only reason we're going from a thirty

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<v Speaker 2>meter tube to a one thousand meters two.

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<v Speaker 3>You are right, gravity helps, but it's not the main driver.

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<v Speaker 3>The main driver is likely factor too, the atmosphere. This soup,

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<v Speaker 3>the soup the pressure cooker. Venus has an incredibly dense

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<v Speaker 3>atmosphere ninety times the pressure of Earth, and it is hot,

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<v Speaker 3>surface temperatures around four hundred and seventy five degrees celsius.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, intuition tells me that if it's hot outside, the

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<v Speaker 2>lava wouldn't cool as fast. Like if I pour coffee

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<v Speaker 2>in asuna, it stays hot longer than in.

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<v Speaker 3>A free That is true for the liquid itself, but

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<v Speaker 3>the paper argues that the dense atmosphere and the specific

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<v Speaker 3>conditions favor the rapid creation of a thick, insulating crust

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<v Speaker 3>immediately after the lava leaves the vent.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so the crust forms faster. That feels counterintuitive.

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<v Speaker 3>It forms a more robust crust. Think of the lava

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<v Speaker 3>flow emerging onto the surface. The heavy, dense atmosphere pushes

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<v Speaker 3>against it from all sides. The interaction between the hot

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<v Speaker 3>lava and this incredibly dense hot gas creates a coherent

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<v Speaker 3>lid very.

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<v Speaker 2>Quickly, like putting a heavy lid on a pot.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and rock is a great insulator. Once that thick

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<v Speaker 3>crust forms, it acts as a thermal blanket. It traps

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<v Speaker 3>the heat inside the flow incredibly efficiently.

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<v Speaker 2>So it becomes a super thermos The outside cools just

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<v Speaker 2>enough to make a shell, and the inside stays molten.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely a natural geological pipeline. Because that crust forms so

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<v Speaker 3>effectively and creates such good insulation, the lava inside stays

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<v Speaker 3>hot and liquid for a very very long time. This

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<v Speaker 3>will was Lasa to flow for huge distances hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>And because it keeps flowing for so long and stays

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<v Speaker 2>so hot.

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<v Speaker 3>It creates a process called thermal erosion. The lava is

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<v Speaker 3>so hot and flows for so long that it actually

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<v Speaker 3>melts the ground beneath it. It carves its way down into

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<v Speaker 2>It digs its own grave or its own tunnel.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, it deepens and widens the channel over time.

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<v Speaker 3>On Earth, lava usually cools and solidifies before it can

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<v Speaker 3>carve a canyon like that. The flows are shorter on Venus.

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<v Speaker 3>The flow just keeps going, eating the rock, expanding the

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<v Speaker 3>tube until you get these monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Dimensions one kilometer wide.

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<v Speaker 3>The study notes that this Venusian tube falls at the

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<v Speaker 3>upper end of what scientists have predicted and even observed

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<v Speaker 3>on the Moon. It creates a scale of volcanism that

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<v Speaker 3>is distinct to the Venusian environment. It's a product of

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<v Speaker 3>its unique extreme world.

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<v Speaker 2>It really paints a picture of a planet that was,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe still is violently active. This isn't just a

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<v Speaker 2>little trickle of lava. This is a planetary artery.

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<v Speaker 3>It does and this discovery validates a lot of theory.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Lorenzo Bruso mentioned in the press release that

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<v Speaker 3>for years these theories were just hypotheses. We think there

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<v Speaker 3>were tubes. The math says there should be tubes.

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<v Speaker 2>But scientists hate guessing they do.

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<v Speaker 3>They prefer knowing and finding physical evidence like this. It's everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Moving from speculation to observation is the gold standard in science.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the difference between suspecting your neighbor have a pool

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<v Speaker 2>because you hear splashing and actually seeing the diving board

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<v Speaker 2>over the fence.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, and Bruzon put it well. This discovery contributes to

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<v Speaker 3>a deeper understanding of the processes that have shaped Venus's evolution.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a piece of the puzzle of how Venus ended

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<v Speaker 3>up the way it is, why it took such a

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<v Speaker 3>different path from Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>So we found the skylight, We know the tube is huge,

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<v Speaker 2>we know how it formed. What happens next because we

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<v Speaker 2>can't just send a sperlinker down there with a rope

433
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<v Speaker 2>and a headlamp.

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<v Speaker 3>Not unless that spilunker is made of titanium and doesn't

435
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<v Speaker 3>mind nine hundred degree fahrenheit heat.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Fair point, But this discovery feels like a targeting beacon.

437
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<v Speaker 3>It is. It is basically a giant neon sign saying

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<v Speaker 3>look here. And the timing is perfect because we're entering

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<v Speaker 3>a new golden age of Venus exploration.

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<v Speaker 2>We have some missions on the books, don't We feel

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<v Speaker 2>like Venus is finally getting some attention again.

442
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<v Speaker 3>We do. For a long time, Venus was the neglected

443
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<v Speaker 3>sibling everyone wanted to go to Mars, but that is changing.

444
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<v Speaker 3>We have major missions coming up in the early twenty

445
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<v Speaker 3>thirties esays Envision and NASA's Veritas, and.

446
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<v Speaker 2>A discovery like this just makes those missions even more exciting.

447
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<v Speaker 3>Much more it gives them a prime target. These missions

448
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<v Speaker 3>represent a massive technological leap over Magellan. Remember, Magellan was

449
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<v Speaker 3>late eighties early nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>Tech floppy disks and dial up modems.

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<v Speaker 3>It did an amazing job, but it was like using

452
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<v Speaker 3>a fax machine compared to a modern smartphone.

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<v Speaker 2>So what can the new guys do that Magellan couldn't?

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<v Speaker 3>Resolution is the first big jump Vagellan's resolution was roughly

455
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<v Speaker 3>one hundred to two hundred meters per pixel, so a

456
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<v Speaker 3>feature had to be about the size of a football

457
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<v Speaker 3>stadium to really show up clearly. Veritas and a Vision

458
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<v Speaker 3>will be getting down to fifteen to thirty meters per

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<v Speaker 3>pixel in some modes.

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<v Speaker 2>So instead of a blurry pixel that might be a hole,

461
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<v Speaker 2>we get high deff.

462
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<v Speaker 3>We get much clearer images. We will be able to

463
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<v Speaker 3>study small surface pits, fractures, and textures in much greater detail.

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<v Speaker 3>We could see the exact shape of the skylight's rim.

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<v Speaker 3>But in Vision. The European mission has a secret weapon

466
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<v Speaker 3>that is particularly relevant to this story.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoah, what is it packing?

468
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<v Speaker 3>It's carrying an instrument called a subsurface radar sounder that.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like something from Star Trek Commander. Activate the subsurface sounder.

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<v Speaker 3>It acts like a ground penetrating radar. Unlike Magellan, which

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<v Speaker 3>just bounce waves off the surface skin, the subsurface radar

472
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<v Speaker 3>sounder operates at a lower frequency. They can probe into

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<v Speaker 3>the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so it can see through the rock.

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<v Speaker 3>To a degree. Yes, it looks for dielectric boundaries, changes

476
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<v Speaker 3>in material properties beneath the surface, so it can see

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<v Speaker 3>the boundary between solid rock and an empty void. It

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<v Speaker 3>can see down to depths of several hundred meters.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a game changer, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about it right now. We only found this one

481
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<v Speaker 3>tube because the roof collapsed. We found the accident. We

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<v Speaker 3>found the skylight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a broken tube exactly, But.

484
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<v Speaker 3>There could be hundreds, maybe thousands of intax tubes, pristine

485
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<v Speaker 3>sealed environments that we have no idea about because the

486
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<v Speaker 3>surface looks flat and unbroken.

487
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<v Speaker 2>And Envision could find them.

488
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<v Speaker 3>And Vision could fly over a flat plane and detect

489
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<v Speaker 3>the hollow void underneath. It could map the entire underground

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<v Speaker 3>network without ever needing a skylight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like X ray vision for the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially. Brizone calls this discovery only the beginning of a

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<v Speaker 3>long and fascinating research activity, and he's right. We are

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<v Speaker 3>transitioning from looking at the map to reading the history

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<v Speaker 3>written inside the rock.

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<v Speaker 2>It really makes you appreciate how science works. It's this

497
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<v Speaker 2>baton pass. Magellan runs the first leg in the nineties,

498
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<v Speaker 2>collects the data, passes it to the researchers in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six who analyze it with new tools, and they

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<v Speaker 2>pass the baton to Envision and Veritas to go back

501
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<v Speaker 2>and look closer with even better tools.

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<v Speaker 3>And each step clarifies the picture. We go from is

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<v Speaker 3>their volcanism? Two, here is a lava tube to let's

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<v Speaker 3>map the entire underground plumbing of Venus.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to circle back to something we touched on earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>The so what for the average person, because let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>we aren't planning a vacation to Venus anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not.

509
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<v Speaker 2>The travel brochures would be terrifying. Come for the acid rain,

510
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<v Speaker 2>stay for the crushing pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a top destination as finding.

512
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<v Speaker 2>A cave on Venus matter to us here on Earth,

513
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<v Speaker 2>aside from just being undeniably cool, well beyond the pure

514
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<v Speaker 2>joy of discovery, which shouldn't be underestimated.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, understanding Venus is crucial for understanding Earth. Yeah,

516
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<v Speaker 3>have to remember the twin.

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<v Speaker 2>Narrative, right, same size, same mass, basically.

518
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<v Speaker 3>Formed in the same part of the Solar System, out

519
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<v Speaker 3>of the same cloud of dust and gas. Yet one

520
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<v Speaker 3>is a paradise where we can record podcasts and drink coffee,

521
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<v Speaker 3>and the other is a runaway greenhouse oven.

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<v Speaker 2>So what went wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>That's the question. Understanding the volcanic history of Venus, how

524
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<v Speaker 3>it outgassed, how the heat escaped from its interior or

525
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<v Speaker 3>didn't escape, helps us understand planetary evolution. It helps us

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<v Speaker 3>model our own planet's climate in future.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a cautionary tale in a way.

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<v Speaker 3>But also studying these extreme environments tests are physics. If

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<v Speaker 3>our geological models work on Earth, and they work on

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<v Speaker 3>the Moon, and they work on Venus, then we can

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<v Speaker 3>be much more confident that we really understand the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>And if they don't, if they break when we apply

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<v Speaker 3>them to Venus, then we're missing something fundamental. Venus is

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<v Speaker 3>the ultimate stress test for our science. It's extremes push

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<v Speaker 3>our theories to their limits.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point. If you can predict a lava

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<v Speaker 2>tube on a planet you can't even see, and then

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<v Speaker 2>find it, you know your math is.

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<v Speaker 3>Solid exactly and there is a practical angle for space

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<v Speaker 3>exploration too. If we ever do send long term probes

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<v Speaker 3>or even humans to other worlds like the Moon or Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>Lava tubes are the prime real.

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<v Speaker 2>Estate because they are shielded.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, is dangerous. The surface of the Moon or Mars

545
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<v Speaker 3>is constantly bombarded with cosmic rays and solar radiation.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is bad for astronauts and electronics.

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<v Speaker 3>It's lethal over the long term. And you have micrometeoroids,

548
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<v Speaker 3>which are like tiny bullets, and the temperature swings can

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<v Speaker 3>be hundreds of degrees between day and night.

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<v Speaker 2>But inside the two you have a roof.

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<v Speaker 3>A very thick roof of solid rock. It blocks the

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<v Speaker 3>radiation almost completely. It stabilizes the temperature, It protects you

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<v Speaker 3>from impacts. They are natural habitats just waiting for us.

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<v Speaker 2>So in a way, hunting for caves on Venus helps

555
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<v Speaker 2>us hunt for bases on Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>It is all connected. It refines our ability to find

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<v Speaker 3>them everywhere. It teaches us what to look for, and

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<v Speaker 3>radar data what the telltale signs are comparative planetology lifts

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<v Speaker 3>all boats.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Okay, let's do a quick recap of

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<v Speaker 2>what we've learned today before we get to the final thought.

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<v Speaker 2>We started with a thirty year old map from a dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Spacecraft, a Magellan mission, a ghost ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Researchers at the University of Trento took that data, applied

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<v Speaker 2>some twenty twenty six magic new algorithms and analysis techniques,

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<v Speaker 2>and looked at a volcanic region called Nix Moon's.

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<v Speaker 3>The Mountain of Night, and there they identified a skylight,

568
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<v Speaker 3>a collapsed pit in a volcanic range.

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<v Speaker 2>Which turned out to be the front door to a monster,

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<v Speaker 2>A lava tube one kilometer wide buried under one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty meters of rock, extending for at least forty

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<v Speaker 2>five kilometers.

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<v Speaker 3>The structure is shaped by Venus's unique conditions lowish gravity

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<v Speaker 3>and a crushing hot atmosphere, creating an insulated super highway

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<v Speaker 3>for lava.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally we learn that this is just the prequel.

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<v Speaker 2>The real movie starts when Envision and Veritas get there

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<v Speaker 2>with their ground penetrating radar to map the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the network. A perfect summary, it really makes you think

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<v Speaker 2>about what else is hiding in that data. If Magellan

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<v Speaker 2>has been holding onto this secret for thirty years, what

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<v Speaker 2>other pixels are just waiting for someone to invent the

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<v Speaker 2>right algorithm.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the beauty of archival data. It never expires.

585
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<v Speaker 3>It just waits for the right question to be asked,

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<v Speaker 3>or for the right tools to be invented.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we wrap up, I want to leave you with

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<v Speaker 2>the thought. We talked about the conditions on the surface

589
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<v Speaker 2>of Venus hellish, unsurvivable acid heat pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the worst place imaginable, as you said.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we talked about this tube, the Pirate Act.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and fifty meters of rock is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of shielding. It blocks the cosmic radiation. It thermally insulates

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<v Speaker 2>from the surface wings. If there are any, we know

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<v Speaker 2>the pressure inside would still be immense. It's an open

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<v Speaker 2>system connected to the atmosphere. But inside that tube, cut

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<v Speaker 2>off from the acid clouds and the surface winds, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a different world.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a stable environment yeah? Dark, certainly hot, absolutely yeah,

600
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<v Speaker 3>but stable protected.

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<v Speaker 2>If a one kilometer wide tunnel exists under Nick's Mond's

602
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<v Speaker 2>what is in it? Is it just empty space? Just black,

603
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<v Speaker 2>pristine basalt frozen in time or is it, as we

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<v Speaker 2>hinted at, the most interesting real estate on.

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<v Speaker 3>The planet, That is the billion dollar question. On Earth,

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<v Speaker 3>caves are often biological hotspots. They protect unique forms of life.

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<v Speaker 3>On Mars, we hope they might preserve signs of ancient

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<v Speaker 3>life from a time when the surface was more habitable

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<v Speaker 3>on Venus.

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<v Speaker 2>On Venus, what could possibly survive there?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, probably nothing as we know it, but it is

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<v Speaker 3>the only place on the entire planet where the surface

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<v Speaker 3>chaos doesn't reach. If there was ever anything on Venus

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<v Speaker 3>that wanted to hide, that wanted to survive the transition

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<v Speaker 3>to the hellscape we see today, that is where it

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<v Speaker 3>would go. A kingdom in the dark, waiting for a

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<v Speaker 3>radar that can see in the dark.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. We will be watching closely as in

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<v Speaker 2>Vision and Veritas get ready to launch. Until then, keep

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<v Speaker 2>looking up and maybe keep looking down beneath the surface

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to listening to this deep dive.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Pleasure's always.

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<v Speaker 4>Sat the PASSI
