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Speaker 3: I'm supposed to say, right, We got it all out.
Speaker 3: Good to be with you. Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: allowing me into your evening. I keep watching as we
Speaker 3: all do, all the different devastation. I didn't, and I
Speaker 3: was listening to Dean Sharpairs. He was talking with Tim,
Speaker 3: and I didn't realize. I didn't realize that there were
Speaker 3: emberproof events. I know it's gonna sound a little bit
Speaker 3: ignorant in here, but I didn't realize that there were
Speaker 3: emberproof vents.
Speaker 1: I just looked it up. Home depots sells those things.
Speaker 3: They're not all that expensive, and I know that obviously,
Speaker 3: if you want a contractor to install, it's gonna cost
Speaker 3: you a little bit more of it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Man, I guess I didn't even think about the herd
Speaker 3: immunity value of the ember proof vents. So if I
Speaker 3: was listening correctly, and I think I was, Tim was
Speaker 3: talking about if you don't have houses catching on fire,
Speaker 3: then basically you're limiting the amount of fuel that can
Speaker 3: burn in one of these massive fires, right right, And
Speaker 3: if that's the case, and you can limit these fires,
Speaker 3: then for every house that has the ember proof vents
Speaker 3: on that are able to, you know, to remove fuel
Speaker 3: as a possibility, all of a sudden, every house helps
Speaker 3: the next house, and the whole neighborhood kind of works together.
Speaker 1: As a fire block.
Speaker 3: Basically. That is fascinating. I thought that was really interesting stuff.
Speaker 3: Good content, man, good content. Meanwhile, look, we've all been
Speaker 3: thinking it, and that is every time there's a massive fire,
Speaker 3: and I'm not just talking about residential areas. Every time
Speaker 3: we have a big fire and it wipes out the vegetation,
Speaker 3: that means that we don't have the roots holding things on,
Speaker 3: and then we worry about what happens when rain comes.
Speaker 1: We know what happens, right. We know.
Speaker 3: Some places that the fire itself are now running into
Speaker 3: some other issues with the ground already beginning to shift.
Speaker 3: ABC seven was talking about that because there's a house
Speaker 3: in I believe it's one of the Palisa's houses that
Speaker 3: survived the fire didn't survive after This is.
Speaker 4: One of the stranger situations where a home that wasn't
Speaker 4: burned to the ground, is literally broken in half. And
Speaker 4: again Lacity Fire with their damage assessment teams are still
Speaker 4: trying to figure out what happened here.
Speaker 5: What caused that is still under investigation by our damage
Speaker 5: assessment team.
Speaker 3: House just split in half, you know, like when the
Speaker 3: Titanic started going down and then it's cracked in half.
Speaker 1: That's what this house did.
Speaker 5: Now, if you look right above it, you're going to
Speaker 5: see a lot of smoldering debris and things that have burned.
Speaker 5: It's apparent the infrastructures absolutely compromised. Some smell of gas
Speaker 5: up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, smell of gas in here. Okay, stop.
Speaker 5: The water is still flowing from the area. The foundation
Speaker 5: is comp there's no power. It's damaged so significantly that
Speaker 5: it has been red tag deeming it unsafe for people
Speaker 5: to go in that area.
Speaker 3: It split like a KitKat bar right in the middle,
Speaker 3: just crack of course, it's unsafe to go in there.
Speaker 4: So what happens when we get a significant amount of rain?
Speaker 1: I think we all know the answer.
Speaker 4: If there's a heavy rain, we're told, then there's the
Speaker 4: thread of debris flow and MUDs lines. Yeah, because of
Speaker 4: all of the vegetation that's been burned away. LA City
Speaker 4: and County Fire is preparing for that as well. And
Speaker 4: again for those of you who want to come back
Speaker 4: in here, as you heard Sheriff Louona on our ear
Speaker 4: our last.
Speaker 1: Segment, you didn't hear that because radio, you need to
Speaker 1: be patient.
Speaker 4: The earliest maybe a week from now, but experience tells
Speaker 4: us it'll probably be longer than that. And again still
Speaker 4: under investigation, what caused this house to literally be snapped
Speaker 4: in half.
Speaker 3: When he says next week or whatever, to try to
Speaker 3: get in, probably longer than that.
Speaker 1: That's just to get in to see if you have
Speaker 1: a house standing.
Speaker 3: That's not to get in, and you know, bring the
Speaker 3: wife and kids and dog and cat and everything you
Speaker 3: grabbed back. That's just to see if you have anything left.
Speaker 3: There are some areas where people will not be returning
Speaker 3: for a year and a half, two years. It blows
Speaker 3: my mind. And here's the sad truth with every natural disaster.
Speaker 1: And look, we do it too. You gotta admit we
Speaker 1: do it too.
Speaker 3: A hurricane hits in Houston, there's flooding in Asheville, North Carolina,
Speaker 3: we go, oh my goodness, that's terrible. And then all right, well,
Speaker 3: the rains have stopped. Okay, well they're cleaning it up,
Speaker 3: and then cameras leave. Ashville, North Carolina is not to
Speaker 3: what it was back in October. It's still an absolute
Speaker 3: mess and will be for a very long time, as
Speaker 3: will so many of our neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: Just just a wreck. Man.
Speaker 3: What what I think is somewhat infuriating is with the
Speaker 3: finger pointing that goes on everybody's well, why didn't the
Speaker 3: news rake the forest? Which silly argument, and why didn't
Speaker 3: so and so do this? And why didn't so and
Speaker 3: so do that? And I have this conversation with my
Speaker 3: father and I go round and round on these things.
Speaker 3: I talk about some of the devastating fires, and we
Speaker 3: talked extensively back when the campfire happened and wiped out
Speaker 3: the town of Paradise, and I said it was you know,
Speaker 3: it was power lines and that was a bad deal
Speaker 3: and horrible situation. And he says, well, you know, I
Speaker 3: always love when I get Dad explained, you know, fires
Speaker 3: are normal, they're very good for the they're very good
Speaker 3: for the forest.
Speaker 1: The forest need the fires.
Speaker 3: And I said, I would agree with you, certainly, not
Speaker 3: at the frequency that we're seeing certainly not at the
Speaker 3: magnitude that we're seeing, and Pop says, well, I don't
Speaker 3: know about that. You realize that if you take a
Speaker 3: look at at the wildfires, what causes the wildfires, it's
Speaker 3: something like ninety plus percent are human caused, maybe even
Speaker 3: more than ninety percent human caused, which means that we
Speaker 3: it's not nature's natural cleansing of an area. This is
Speaker 3: us contributing to it, which is why so many people
Speaker 3: are wondering what started these fires. It wasn't lightning, it
Speaker 3: wasn't a volcanic eruption that started the fires. I think
Speaker 3: it's safe to say it is human cause in some way,
Speaker 3: shape or form. As I mentioned the campfire, that was
Speaker 3: PG and E power lines. And now you've probably heard
Speaker 3: about what's going on with the Eaton fire, and I
Speaker 3: know that the oh I think it was. The CEO
Speaker 3: of Edison was talking with ABC seven and they asked
Speaker 3: him about was it your power lines? And then he
Speaker 3: got he sort of started ceo'splaining things, and I.
Speaker 6: Said, Dan with Pedro Pizarro, President and CEO Edison International,
Speaker 6: the parent company of Southern California Edison, we covered a
Speaker 6: wide range of topics, but I want to focus on
Speaker 6: concern and questions over the pie.
Speaker 1: Skip ahead here. What does he say?
Speaker 7: There were two sets of lines along Eaton Canyon. On
Speaker 7: the west side, there's a distribution, a lower voltage line.
Speaker 7: Distribution are the lines that typically go into homes. That
Speaker 7: line had covered conductor, but it had already been deenergized.
Speaker 7: Power had been turned off something like two hours before
Speaker 7: the report had started the fire.
Speaker 3: Now, when he says lower voltage, what he's talking about
Speaker 3: is what's coming into your house is going into your service,
Speaker 3: all right, So you're talking two twenty that's going into
Speaker 3: your service. Maybe maybe a little bit more than that,
Speaker 3: all right, You're That's when he says low volt He's
Speaker 3: not talking about speaker wire, all right, So let's not
Speaker 3: He says low voltage to power companies is different than
Speaker 3: low voltage to you and I.
Speaker 7: We also have transmission lines on the east side of
Speaker 7: the canyon, and those were energized. But the criteria for
Speaker 7: when we shut off also depends on the type of line.
Speaker 8: Bedrim Pizzato is referring to the power line in this
Speaker 8: photo taken during very early stages of the Eaton fire.
Speaker 3: You can't see it because TV but it's a photo.
Speaker 3: You've probably seen it. It's a photo. It's a house,
Speaker 3: and you can see the fire behind the house, up
Speaker 3: the hill and under the power.
Speaker 8: Lines along the Eaton Canyon hiking trail. He explains why
Speaker 8: those lines were still energized.
Speaker 1: And think about it this way.
Speaker 7: The smaller lines distribution lines, they're lighter. If you have
Speaker 7: strong winds, you know, they can get buffeted around more
Speaker 7: than a heavy, more robust transmission tower transmission line, and
Speaker 7: so we typically have higher wind speeds that are the
Speaker 7: thresholds for transmission versus distribution. So that's why those transmission
Speaker 7: lines were not the energized.
Speaker 1: So okay, how'd that work out?
Speaker 3: I mean, there's going to be an investigation, right, gonna
Speaker 3: be an investigation. We'll see. But look, if you're like me,
Speaker 3: I'm not breaking anything here. This is not any sort
Speaker 3: of like shocking information. When the fire started breaking out,
Speaker 3: we all wanted, first of all, we want everybody to
Speaker 3: be safe, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: But what caused this?
Speaker 3: And in my head, I thought I'd put fifty bucks
Speaker 3: on at least one of these things was caused by power.
Speaker 3: At least one of them was caused by the power
Speaker 3: lines at least one, and we don't know about the
Speaker 3: Palisades fire. Sounds like maybe that one is a different cause.
Speaker 3: But also it's because of the bipedal wildlife, meaning you
Speaker 3: and me humans in the area.
Speaker 1: What did we do wrong in that? I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you about that here in just Semitic.
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Speaker 9: It is.
Speaker 1: It is an honor being with you.
Speaker 3: I am as frustrated as most anybody who is watching
Speaker 3: from afar, and by a far, I mean I don't
Speaker 3: have any property that is in immediate danger anything like that,
Speaker 3: so and I think most most Southern Californians don't. But boy,
Speaker 3: we are watching very carefully because we don't know when
Speaker 3: the next spark might happen. We don't know when the
Speaker 3: next the next fire might pop up, or who it
Speaker 3: might threaten. So and we've already seen other smaller fires
Speaker 3: that fortunately the firefighters have done a magnificent job of
Speaker 3: tamping those out very quickly. We've seen some crazy people
Speaker 3: with flamethrowers deciding they're going to go out and see
Speaker 3: if they can start fires. I don't know what's wrong
Speaker 3: with people, but the majority of us are worried, not necessarily.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're worried about the wins, obviously, but we're
Speaker 3: not necessarily worried about nature starting a fire. We're worried
Speaker 3: about nature fanning any fire that might be there. And
Speaker 3: it sounds like when it comes to the Palisades fire,
Speaker 3: it is all on humans. This is human caused. Now,
Speaker 3: maybe not the actual Palisades fire, but the fire itself
Speaker 3: may have come from a previous fire that was human cause.
Speaker 3: For the third day in a row, investigators with the
Speaker 3: eighth this is a couple days old, but is good audio.
Speaker 10: Tf's National Response team zeroed in on mountainous terrain behind
Speaker 10: homes in the Palisades Highland section of Pacific Palisades. This
Speaker 10: is where they believe the January seventh fire that's burned
Speaker 10: over twenty three thousand acres started right but how did
Speaker 10: it start? But investigators wouldn't confirm whether that fire was
Speaker 10: a reignition of an eight acre brush fire.
Speaker 1: Six days prior.
Speaker 3: There you go, it's a reignition they're not confirming it,
Speaker 3: and that's fine. They shouldn't whatever they're doing their investigation.
Speaker 3: I get it, but it sure seems like a pretty
Speaker 3: reasonable avenue to explore. It is deserving of great scrutiny
Speaker 3: and investigation.
Speaker 11: We've heard those reports, but I cannot get into a
Speaker 11: specifics of what we have found or located up there
Speaker 11: as far as a way of evidence.
Speaker 3: Okay, was there any lightning in the area on January seventh, No,
Speaker 3: there wasn't. Okay, any other acts of God that might
Speaker 3: have started the fire, No, all right, and it probably
Speaker 3: started in that burnscar area from the previous brush fire.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 3: Reignitions can happen a week, maybe even two weeks after
Speaker 3: a previous fire.
Speaker 1: We know that to be the case.
Speaker 3: All right, So this seems like got pretty plausible, if
Speaker 3: not probable, the cause of the Palisades fire a reignition
Speaker 3: from a previous fire.
Speaker 11: But we are looking into everything. We will leave no
Speaker 11: stone unturned.
Speaker 10: The ETF tells Eyewitness Snooze they've received over one hundred
Speaker 10: and fifty leads and tips from residents so far, and
Speaker 10: that this investigation will take time because of the size
Speaker 10: and scope of the fire. Obviously, this side by side
Speaker 10: satellite image. You can't see it because radio shows the
Speaker 10: burn scar from that January first fire and the beginning
Speaker 10: of the Massive Palisades fire on January seventh.
Speaker 1: Oh, they just happen to be the same place.
Speaker 10: It's near the Skull Rock trailhead. Residents say the smoke
Speaker 10: from both fires was in the same location.
Speaker 1: They're experts in this field.
Speaker 11: We have certified fire and instigators up there, certified explosives
Speaker 11: to experts up there.
Speaker 3: By the way, What a cool job. I know there's
Speaker 3: got to be a school for certified fire investigators. But
Speaker 3: where was my high school guidance conselor in that one,
Speaker 3: because I definitely would have explored that avenue.
Speaker 1: That just seems like a cool job.
Speaker 11: Accelerate detection canines with us trying to narrow down the
Speaker 11: origin of the fire. Yes, they are up in the
Speaker 11: Skull Rock area working, but that's where the evidence has
Speaker 11: led us right now.
Speaker 1: You mean back to where the burn scar was from
Speaker 1: the brush fire.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and then the other half of the team are
Speaker 11: going door to door asking for that video surveillance or
Speaker 11: what people saw or what they didn't see in certain
Speaker 11: dates of time.
Speaker 10: Eric Robertson was one of the first nine one one
Speaker 10: callers on January seventh, out taking a walk with his
Speaker 10: wife when he spotted flames. Robertson says he didn't see
Speaker 10: anyone in the area when the fire started. Residents heard
Speaker 10: that the New Year's Day fire may have been caused
Speaker 10: by fireworks.
Speaker 1: Ah, there you go.
Speaker 10: And I asked the ATF whether they've found any fragments
Speaker 10: of fireworks. All I was told is that their team
Speaker 10: is trained in fireworks and that is one of the
Speaker 10: many theories they're looking at.
Speaker 1: Live in Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 10: Josh Haskell, ABC seven eyewitness.
Speaker 3: ND, all right, thank you very much. So fireworks on
Speaker 3: New Year's what that's crazy? Who would have thought such
Speaker 3: a thing. I can't stand fireworks. Just ban them all
Speaker 3: over the place. Ban them on the fourth of July
Speaker 3: everywhere fireworks are so there's no upside to fireworks. My
Speaker 3: wife hates when I start talking about fireworks because she
Speaker 3: loves the fireworks. I can't stand fireworks. Do you do
Speaker 3: you have like a lot of people around your house
Speaker 3: that do it?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all illegal, of course, yeah, of course, yeah, but
Speaker 3: they love they just love the fireworks.
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like it sounds like you're in
Speaker 1: a war zone.
Speaker 12: No, yeah, that's not even an exaggeration because me and
Speaker 12: Moe kind of live in close proximity to each other. Yeah,
Speaker 12: and in the area that we live, it's like the
Speaker 12: one like whatever square mile you want to call it.
Speaker 12: Oh my god, it's still legal. And you know when
Speaker 12: he does his show from chatte chatte mo, you know
Speaker 12: you can hear it. It sounds like it's out like
Speaker 12: behind his window were gym, but it's crazy and it's like, no,
Speaker 12: that was that was blocked down.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, I was doing shows and I had closed the
Speaker 3: window and I thought, oh, people are going to hear this.
Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like cannon's going off outside my window.
Speaker 3: I can't stand it. My wife gets so angry with
Speaker 3: me because I just don't. I'm not a fireworks guy
Speaker 3: in general. What is the upside? Oh, but it's it's
Speaker 3: we love to blow things up in America. We have
Speaker 3: we have veterans that have PTSD where it's it's difficult.
Speaker 3: How many households don't have pets nowadays. I mean we're
Speaker 3: at the point where I what is it. It's got
Speaker 3: to be more than fifty percent of households have pets.
Speaker 3: Pets don't do well with boom booms, right, not at all?
Speaker 3: So what is what is the advantage?
Speaker 2: You know what I like?
Speaker 1: I like the new drone shows. I like drone shows
Speaker 1: a lot. Took the words right in my mouth. They're great.
Speaker 1: Those are cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that they're great. In the meantime, somebody
Speaker 3: wanted to set off fireworks. Sounds like fireworks or maybe
Speaker 3: a campfire. Could have been a campfire too. I don't
Speaker 3: want to just assume it's fireworks. But look again, that
Speaker 3: fire started New Year's Day or New Year's Eve, late
Speaker 3: New Year's Eve, I mean firework time. And now we've
Speaker 3: got thirteen thousand structures that are burned. Good job, guys,
Speaker 3: I mean this is us. We are going to be
Speaker 3: the cause of our own destruction on this planet. There's
Speaker 3: no doubt about it. I mean, whether it's slowly we
Speaker 3: try to destroy our planet or rapidly we try to
Speaker 3: destroy the planet. We're very bad at taking care of
Speaker 3: where we live. We're very bad at it.
Speaker 1: Boy.
Speaker 3: I am just on a grumpy little roll tonight, don't I.
Speaker 3: But I always want to offer solutions, solution bat all fireworks,
Speaker 3: stop the sale of fireworks. If you've got to get
Speaker 3: the president elect on board, then you just say, fireworks
Speaker 3: are there. It's a Chinese invention and we don't need it,
Speaker 3: that's what you say. You just bring his brand, his
Speaker 3: xenophobia into it. Just fireworks is the Chinese. They're trying
Speaker 3: to destroy America by inventing fireworks seven hundred years ago.
Speaker 1: Whatever fan the fireworks fill done on its head, flip it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just be done with it. Just be done with it.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, if we aren't destroying the world in which we live,
Speaker 3: we're trying to destroy one another. But fortunately we have
Speaker 3: elected officials to protect us. I don't feel safe about that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, uh fires, where were we? Oh?
Speaker 13: Yes?
Speaker 3: Here? It is horrible, horrible people. So look, as a species,
Speaker 3: we're terrible. Right. We do not take care of the
Speaker 3: planet that we have. We just assume it'll be around.
Speaker 3: We very much take it for granted. Whether that's because
Speaker 3: we set off fireworks during a dry, windy season, or
Speaker 3: we just decide smog is fun. Whatever it is, we're
Speaker 3: terrible stewards of the environment. But that said, maybe the
Speaker 3: worst are the people who take advantage during a disaster.
Speaker 3: Scam artists taking advantage of people in the area that
Speaker 3: are losing homes. And I don't know if you're getting
Speaker 3: phone calls, I don't know. I don't know if you're
Speaker 3: getting bid well, we're here to help, you can reach out.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are as bad as the whole your
Speaker 3: car could be at the end of a warranty, blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. Those people right, your cars extended warranty. I
Speaker 3: hate those scammers. It's even worse when scammers prey on
Speaker 3: people in an emotional state, and of course they do
Speaker 3: because we're more vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Right, It's kind of like, uh.
Speaker 3: Like crooked funeral homes. Right, you know, I know that
Speaker 3: your I know that your beloved mother had a plan.
Speaker 3: But now that she's gone, don't you think she'd want
Speaker 3: this upgraded casket. Don't you think she'd want the extra
Speaker 3: plush pillows. Don't you think she would want this?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Would she?
Speaker 3: I don't know, Because she's dead. I don't think she's
Speaker 3: gonna notice how soft the pillow is. But you know
Speaker 3: how they just like the crooked people, just they prey
Speaker 3: on people when they're the most vulnerable. So now we've
Speaker 3: got Laeda. Nathan Hoffman says, oh no, he's going. After
Speaker 3: he talked with the people at ABC seven. He was
Speaker 3: talking about the looters and the scammers and all these
Speaker 3: tool bags. It's the nicest thing I can say.
Speaker 14: You know, the level of criminal activity is quite candidly despicable.
Speaker 14: We have firefighters literally putting their lives on the line
Speaker 14: every day to save lives in our homes. We have
Speaker 14: law enforcement work in twenty four hours a day to
Speaker 14: keep us safe and secure. I'm one of over two
Speaker 14: hundred thousand people who've cooperated in this evacuation. People like
Speaker 14: my sister have lost their home in Pacific Palisades, and
Speaker 14: thousands of people.
Speaker 3: All right, hakmen, we don't need to be tragedy poaching
Speaker 3: this one have lost their homes.
Speaker 14: Yet there are criminals who look at this as an
Speaker 14: opportunity to exploit the most vulnerable people in their lowest moments.
Speaker 1: I kind of said that I agree with him.
Speaker 14: We have set an unmistakably clear message at these people.
Speaker 14: It's a question of just when, not if, they will
Speaker 14: get arrested, they will get prosecuted, and they will be
Speaker 14: punished to the full extent of the law.
Speaker 1: I don't believe you.
Speaker 3: I just I don't believe not. Look, he's new, maybe
Speaker 3: he will. I don't think that you're going to get everybody.
Speaker 3: You're not going to convince me.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not a question of if, but when. Nah,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that you are going to be able
Speaker 3: to arrest and secure prosecutions that everyone that's trying to
Speaker 3: pull a scam.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work that way. Yes, I appreciate the effort.
Speaker 14: Yesterday we announced the charges on nine looters and one
Speaker 14: person who did an arson and Azusa.
Speaker 1: So that's ten people. That's it.
Speaker 3: Only ten people have tried scamming anything or looting. Well, good,
Speaker 3: you've got them.
Speaker 15: All.
Speaker 14: These looters were involved in the Pacific Palisades and they
Speaker 14: eaten fires. They basically were people who went into these
Speaker 14: these residences when the residents whereas residences were evacuated, Yet
Speaker 14: the police were able to.
Speaker 1: Catch the good are you telling me those are the
Speaker 1: only ones?
Speaker 14: Two of these people are looking at life in prison
Speaker 14: because there are three strikers. Another person's looking at twenty
Speaker 14: two years in prison as a second striker, the arsonist
Speaker 14: is looking up into nine years in prison, and the
Speaker 14: other people who went in illegally into these houses they're
Speaker 14: looking at six years in prison.
Speaker 3: The looters are horrible. I don't know, like the scammers
Speaker 3: are worse. No, who's work on a scale of horrible criminals?
Speaker 3: Are the looters worse than the scammers?
Speaker 1: Ronner? Would you rather be looted or scammed?
Speaker 13: I think you need to factor in the landlords who
Speaker 13: are jacking up rents as well. We haven't seen a
Speaker 13: ton of dodge at that, but I've seen lots of
Speaker 13: reports in assorted mainly independent news, about landlords doubling rents
Speaker 13: and doubling house prices.
Speaker 1: All that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: It's just supplying demand, Mark, It's look, the supply has
Speaker 3: gone down, demand has.
Speaker 1: Gone up, well, just supplying demand. It's like when the
Speaker 1: gas prices go way up.
Speaker 3: That's not profit taking by the oil company, that's just
Speaker 3: supplying demand.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 13: Oddly enough, the state of California has a law against
Speaker 13: that kind of crap, and some people don't seem to care. Wait,
Speaker 13: you need to tell me when someone is trying to
Speaker 13: charge damn near two thousand dollars for a single, that's
Speaker 13: price gouging. That's what's happening in Pasadena right now than
Speaker 13: soft spaces. Oh that can't be true.
Speaker 1: Oh come on listen.
Speaker 3: If you came from the Bay Area, that would be
Speaker 3: a deal, that would be a real deal. This isn't guy,
Speaker 3: It's just supply and demand. How could that be any different?
Speaker 3: People are living paycheck at paycheck anyway. Imagine if you're
Speaker 3: somebody who's living paycheck to paycheck and then you are
Speaker 3: you're evacuate. You know that the fire ripped through at
Speaker 3: least near your neighborhood. You don't know if your house
Speaker 3: is still standing. You can't get back in. You don't
Speaker 3: have any idea, and now you've got to find someplace
Speaker 3: to stay, and you're supposed to come up with the
Speaker 3: extra money.
Speaker 1: It's not there. It's not there.
Speaker 3: Attorney General or Ra Bunta saying that he's gonna drop
Speaker 3: the hammer on people who attempt to take advantage of victims.
Speaker 3: So he was talking with Katy La and he said
Speaker 3: he's gonna put more resources toward investigating criminal complaint. It's
Speaker 3: made in the area of the wildfires. He said, we're
Speaker 3: not bluffing. If you think we're bluffing and you call it,
Speaker 3: you will regret it. So as of Wednesday, as many
Speaker 3: as fifty looting arrests have been made, so that's even
Speaker 3: more than what the DA was saying. The concern is
Speaker 3: so large that some residents are defying evacuation orders and
Speaker 3: arming themselves to protect their homes from looters. This is
Speaker 3: something I heard John Coobal talking about too, where he
Speaker 3: says he was talking about do I evacuate or do
Speaker 3: I stay? You know, I'm in an area where you
Speaker 3: know we're in the warning area, and do I take off?
Speaker 3: But if I leave, my house might get looted. Do
Speaker 3: I stay and try to protect my house or do
Speaker 3: I take off because the looters don't they don't follow
Speaker 3: the evacuation orders. I feel like maybe this is something
Speaker 3: Look look, if you're an assembly person, maybe take a
Speaker 3: look at this. Is there an enhancement for people who
Speaker 3: commit crimes during states of emergency?
Speaker 1: Like there should be an enhancement in the same way.
Speaker 3: That we have, uh like racial enhancements. If there's a
Speaker 3: prejudicial crime, you know, what's a hate crime?
Speaker 1: Excuse me? A hate crime.
Speaker 3: We've got hate crime enhancements. Can we do something that's
Speaker 3: specific to uh when we're in a state of emergency
Speaker 3: people committing crimes. I feel like there ought to be
Speaker 3: an enhancement on that, and then put the word out
Speaker 3: there's going to be an enhancement.
Speaker 1: And scammers are just the worst. Scammers prey on your emotions.
Speaker 3: Looters, at least, it's just the old fashioned just stealing
Speaker 3: from people, which again, put an enhancement on that.
Speaker 1: Give them more time. No, no, no, no, not more time. Looters.
Speaker 16: Looters need some something a little harsh or a little
Speaker 16: more old school life.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 16: But when you are caught looting, they just bring a
Speaker 16: chopping block up to the spot where they catch you
Speaker 16: and they remove your hands and cameras. How about we
Speaker 16: just remove their tongues upon catching them. When they're caught,
Speaker 16: you remove their tongues right then and there no prosecution.
Speaker 16: You've scammed someone, You've you've conned someone out of their
Speaker 16: their finances. In this time, let's remove those tongues.
Speaker 13: You might enjoy life in the theocratic Republic of Iran
Speaker 13: far more than here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, at time like this, hands must go, hands
Speaker 1: must go. Cut them up.
Speaker 3: No justice there, Uh huh, that's right. We don't even
Speaker 3: worry about due process anymore.
Speaker 1: We just right.
Speaker 16: Look, I promise you, if you're caught coming out of
Speaker 16: one of these houses with stuff in your hands that's
Speaker 16: not yours, they need to just have the chopping block
Speaker 16: with the blood still on it, right there. Have the
Speaker 16: person come around with the rusty machete, nothing sharp, to
Speaker 16: make it easy on you and chop your hands off,
Speaker 16: all right.
Speaker 12: And making examples out of them, because now that everyone
Speaker 12: has cameras to film that and broadcast it all the rock.
Speaker 16: Catch a live you want, you want to go live,
Speaker 16: Let's go insta, Let's let's do it for the gram wow,
Speaker 16: all right, or the TikTok or the TikTok. Well until Sunday,
Speaker 16: talk until someday.
Speaker 1: Listen to you. So I mean, is this like I
Speaker 1: have a dull machete?
Speaker 3: You know, super sharp machetes aren't real effective and cutting
Speaker 3: tall grass or anything like that, you actually have to
Speaker 3: have a little bit of an adult dullness on them.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, is that rusty? Rusty too? Well, forget
Speaker 3: about all these half measures. Just get a wood chipper
Speaker 3: and be done with it. Well, that's I'm a full fargo.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. Yeah, the full fargo.
Speaker 13: I like that.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3: Would this be like a special task force that would
Speaker 3: go door to door yeah, with a Is it a
Speaker 3: flatbed truck that has the hand chopping yes mechanism on it?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 13: Would they have the wood shippers on wheels? So it's
Speaker 13: very convenient? Oh yeah, put them either way.
Speaker 1: Either way.
Speaker 16: I just want to make sure the blood trails behind
Speaker 16: the wood chipper truck. It needs to send a message.
Speaker 3: And then we amplify their screams too, so that people
Speaker 3: who aren't in you know, don't don't have sight lines
Speaker 3: can hear what's going on.
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, you mic them, You mike them so as
Speaker 16: they're going through you here their terror.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Yeah, this is why I freaking love
Speaker 3: you guys, nutbags.
Speaker 1: I need some counseling. I love this, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. Let that raw emotion flow, yes, let
Speaker 1: the evil out to walla, Yes, let it flow through you.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, some people are taking other measures after losing their places.
Speaker 3: While Twala is dulling his machete and pouring salt water
Speaker 3: on it, just to make sure it's ready to go.
Speaker 1: Others have taken the legal route. We'll tell you what
Speaker 1: they're doing. That's next.
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Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. All right, So, while we figured out
Speaker 3: what to do with looters and scammers, and according to
Speaker 3: my incredible coworkers, they want to go very medieval. Some
Speaker 3: people are taking their frustrations out elsewhere, like on the DWP.
Speaker 3: And you knew this wasn't gonna take very long before
Speaker 3: the lawsuit started dropping. DWP. People said, we can't be
Speaker 3: running out of water during a fire. That is no bueno.
Speaker 1: Whose fault is this? Somebody has to pay.
Speaker 23: Los Angeles Department of Water and Power and Southernlifornia Edison
Speaker 23: are the ones named in that lawsuit. Now we've seen
Speaker 23: it all with heartbreaking images of houses reduced to rubble
Speaker 23: like that one out here on Sunset. The people who
Speaker 23: are filing these claims say that this shouldn't have happened
Speaker 23: and they want someone to take accountability. Now, this latest
Speaker 23: lawsuit has been filed against the LADWP by a group
Speaker 23: of survivors of the Palisades Fire who claim the utilities
Speaker 23: inadequate water delivery hampered firefighters in battling the deadly fire,
Speaker 23: which has destroyed thousands of structures and killed at least
Speaker 23: nine people. Now, a key part of the lawsuit is
Speaker 23: that Santa Ynez Reservoir, one hundred and seventy million gallon
Speaker 23: water storage complex that had been empty for nearly a year.
Speaker 23: Here you see that reservoir as the Palisades Fire roared
Speaker 23: around it. The LAEDWP put out a statement before this
Speaker 23: filing saying, in part, the utility quote was required to
Speaker 23: take the Santienez Reservoir out of service to meet safe
Speaker 23: drinking water regulations. Just days ago, Governor Knwson called for
Speaker 23: an investigation into LEDWP and the loss of water pressure
Speaker 23: at local fire hydrants and lack of water supplies amid
Speaker 23: the fire fight. The LEDWP lawsuit comes after several lawsuits
Speaker 23: were filed against so Cal Edison by people who lost
Speaker 23: their homes in the Eton fire.
Speaker 3: At least man, it's just like the lawyers are just
Speaker 3: lined right up there right just can't wait to drop
Speaker 3: these lawsuits. Whoever's got the biggest pockets, that's who they're
Speaker 3: going to hit fast.
Speaker 23: Five lawsuits have been hot filed by homeowners and renters.
Speaker 23: They allege so Cal Edison failed to de energize all
Speaker 23: of its electrical equipment despite red flag warnings issued by
Speaker 23: the National Weather Serve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now here's where things get a little bit tricky,
Speaker 3: because when they do deenergize means you lose power. And
Speaker 3: when you lose power, then people get angry because they
Speaker 3: don't have any power. And then when they don't de energize,
Speaker 3: we have a fire. People are angry because they didn't deenergize.
Speaker 3: So I have a lot of sympathy for the power
Speaker 3: companies because I think they should always err on the
Speaker 3: side of caution.
Speaker 1: But listen, it's pr nightmare whichever way you slice it,
Speaker 1: and believe the fire was sparked by down power lines.
Speaker 23: The wind driven fire destroyed and estimated seven thousand structures
Speaker 23: and has killed at least sixteen people.
Speaker 1: Now back down here live. All of these lawsuits are.
Speaker 23: Seeking including this latest one against the LEDWP, are seeking
Speaker 23: puns compensatory excuse me, compensatory damages for the plaintiffs as
Speaker 23: well as punitive damages.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they are.
Speaker 3: I mean those the two ways you get money, right,
Speaker 3: You need to you need to compensate me for my losses,
Speaker 3: and then you need to be taught a lesson. So
Speaker 3: you got the compensatory and then the punative punishment. So
Speaker 3: that's the that's the plan.
Speaker 1: There is.
Speaker 3: In fact, Mark, I think you had the story about FEMA.
Speaker 3: I was surprised by I guess, I guess I understand it,
Speaker 3: but a little bit surprised. So if somebody has a
Speaker 3: go fundme set up, oh yeah, right.
Speaker 13: That was at the top at seven o'clock apparently they
Speaker 13: will deduct whatever you make through other means. If I
Speaker 13: understood the story correctly, Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3: So donations from a go Fundme page could impact how
Speaker 3: much money people receive from FEMA. They may be able
Speaker 3: to offer you offer funds to replace a vehicle, but
Speaker 3: if your Go Fundme page clearly states that you're raising
Speaker 3: funds to replace a vehicle, then that will impact the eligibility. FEMA,
Speaker 3: by law, cannot duplicate benefits, so we can't pay for
Speaker 3: things that have already been paid for by other sources.
Speaker 1: So what can you do?
Speaker 3: Then this sounds like it's just about phrasing on your
Speaker 3: GoFundMe page. So you can set up a Go Fundme
Speaker 3: page and say or set it up for somebody else
Speaker 3: and say, please help them get through this difficult time,
Speaker 3: and that might be okay. But if you say, my
Speaker 3: brother in law lost his work truck and he needs
Speaker 3: to have that replaced so that he can make some
Speaker 3: money and start rebuilding their lives, then all of a
Speaker 3: sudden it becomes a problem and FEMA basically is going
Speaker 3: to deduct that from anything that would give you.
Speaker 13: It seems like a tough needle to threat and I
Speaker 13: can't imagine a lot of people who want to risk
Speaker 13: losing any benefits.
Speaker 3: No, But at the same time, you got people like
Speaker 3: me who want to help out. And I see the
Speaker 3: GoFundMe pages and I go, wow, I can spare a
Speaker 3: little bit for this person. I can spare a little
Speaker 3: bit for that person. I can spare I feel like
Speaker 3: I'm just throwing my money away because if it's going
Speaker 3: to be deducted then then it's like, well, let's like
Speaker 3: I want it to help out now. And on top
Speaker 3: of whatever FEMA's offering.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I wouldn't say that you'd be throwing your money away,
Speaker 13: but people are going to have to do some calculations
Speaker 13: on what they need urgently, and you know where they're
Speaker 13: going to get it. They are all sorts of ways
Speaker 13: besides money to help out, though. I mean, you can
Speaker 13: donate food to animal shelters, that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 13: spare bedroom to Rando's. Yeah, invite people to come live
Speaker 13: with you personally.
Speaker 1: That's a good idea. Yes. Yeah. I told Twala he
Speaker 1: could sleep on my couch.
Speaker 3: He's not moved in yet, which careful what you offer
Speaker 3: hurts a little bit yeah, yeah, it hurts a little,
Speaker 3: but you might want to give that some thought.
Speaker 1: Random people sleeping on my couch or other ways to
Speaker 1: help out.
Speaker 13: No tawalla specifically, Oh no, you'd be great, Okay, fantastic,
Speaker 13: all right.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, GoFundMe is one of the opportunities. There are other
Speaker 3: places too. You can always help with the California Fire Foundation,
Speaker 3: LA Fire Department Foundation, Salvation Army, obviously Red Cross, right,
Speaker 3: we know that, the regional food banks, that sort of thing,
Speaker 3: the different groups that we've been working with as well,
Speaker 3: and everybody's trying.
Speaker 15: To do this.
Speaker 1: Am I a cynic though?
Speaker 3: When I see some places that are like, oh, just
Speaker 3: go to our website and you can you can make
Speaker 3: a donation to help people with the wildfires and h
Speaker 3: And by the way, that's one of the things I
Speaker 3: checked when when we were working with the Dream Center
Speaker 3: and what happens with our website. If you go to
Speaker 3: the KFIAM six forty dot com slash donate, then that
Speaker 3: connects you with the Dream Center and the donations go
Speaker 3: through the Dream Center.
Speaker 1: But some of these other places say, you know, you
Speaker 1: can make your donation here, and what.
Speaker 3: Ends up happening is you're making a donation to, say
Speaker 3: the widget company, I'm just making one up. You're making
Speaker 3: your donation to widget company, who is in fact turning
Speaker 3: around and taking all of the money that you donated
Speaker 3: and then giving it to the Red Cross. Right, But
Speaker 3: in the process, what they're doing is they're going to
Speaker 3: take a tax deduction. So they're gonna say we donated
Speaker 3: one and a half million dollars to the Red Cross.
Speaker 1: Well, no, you didn't.
Speaker 3: What you did is you facilitated other people making that
Speaker 3: donation and then you took a tax deduction out of it.
Speaker 3: This is I'm such a cynic. This is why I
Speaker 3: don't round up at the grocery store. Do you want
Speaker 3: to round up to help kids?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 1: They always look at me like what They really.
Speaker 13: Make you feel like a Nazi if you say no,
Speaker 13: you don't help children.
Speaker 3: Know because I, oh, boy, if if a cashier gives
Speaker 3: me that look, then I always give them that. I go, oh,
Speaker 3: do you know if your company is taking a tax
Speaker 3: deduction with the money that I'm making a donation on?
Speaker 3: And uh, I don't know. No, I know what the
Speaker 3: I know what the game is. It doesn't cost them
Speaker 3: anything because they're they're donating they're redonating your money, but
Speaker 3: then they're taking a tax deduction out of it.
Speaker 1: So just be careful, is all I'm saying. Not everybody
Speaker 1: is doing that, but there are some that are gonna go, look,
Speaker 1: this is a win win.
Speaker 3: We're gonna make that donation and we're gonna get a
Speaker 3: tax deduction out of it. Yeah, and I don't like that.
Speaker 3: South Park has a great bit on it because you
Speaker 3: know how sometimes you have to push no, like two.
Speaker 12: Or three times, Oh my god, go back the sale
Speaker 12: and then they got the last one was just like okay,
Speaker 12: so try to pull this sandwich out of this children's mouth.
Speaker 1: And then once you do that, then you don't have
Speaker 1: to donate. Right. It's ridiculous. Yeah, makes me crazy.
Speaker 3: And I know what, I know what. It's not a scam,
Speaker 3: but they're not exactly being forthright. Would you like to
Speaker 3: make a donation that also helps us get a tax deduction? No,
Speaker 3: So anyway, just be careful with that because if there's
Speaker 3: a tax that if you're making a donation, you deserve
Speaker 3: the tax deduction and you don't need to be helping
Speaker 3: some other uh, some other group make a tax deduction
Speaker 3: with money that isn't theirs in the first place. Now,
Speaker 3: if they're donating their own money, then great, take the
Speaker 3: tax deduction. That's what it's there for.
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I just don't like it when
Speaker 1: they funnel it. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 13: If I could just add one more thing before we
Speaker 13: go the when they put pressure on you, it's your time.
Speaker 1: We're cutting into market, So you take as much as
Speaker 1: you want. Oh the hell with the news.
Speaker 13: Then when they put pressure on you at the point
Speaker 13: of sale, you don't have time to research anything. And
Speaker 13: it's always always good advice to tell people to do
Speaker 13: your homework before you donate to anybody. Really click click through,
Speaker 13: read the fine print, find out where things go. Because
Speaker 13: we've had ample news stories in the last several years
Speaker 13: of charities that wound out being fraudulent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point too, really great point. And
Speaker 3: look are those the people that the AG is gonna
Speaker 3: go after? Are they gonna Are they gonna hit those scammers?
Speaker 3: Are they more worried about the the guys that are
Speaker 3: looting on the streets, because Uh, last I checked, Taala's
Speaker 3: got them covered. He's gonna take care of anybody that's
Speaker 3: looting on the streets with his dull machete rst.
Speaker 1: You don't know.
Speaker 13: Nobody should have ever given him punish your comics when
Speaker 13: he was growing up.
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