WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:01.560 You're listening too. 2 00:00:01.760 --> 00:00:06.280 Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI AM six forty. 3 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:08.480 Chris merrill In from mo Kelly Listened Anytime on Demand 4 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:10.800 of the iHeartRadio app. I think that's all the stuff 5 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:12.519 I'm supposed to say, right, We got it all out. 6 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:15.279 Good to be with you. Thank you so much for 7 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:19.920 allowing me into your evening. I keep watching as we 8 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:21.839 all do, all the different devastation. I didn't, and I 9 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:24.839 was listening to Dean Sharpairs. He was talking with Tim, 10 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:27.519 and I didn't realize. I didn't realize that there were 11 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:29.800 emberproof events. I know it's gonna sound a little bit 12 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:31.280 ignorant in here, but I didn't realize that there were 13 00:00:31.280 --> 00:00:32.000 emberproof vents. 14 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:34.640 I just looked it up. Home depots sells those things. 15 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:38.159 They're not all that expensive, and I know that obviously, 16 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:39.880 if you want a contractor to install, it's gonna cost 17 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:40.479 you a little bit more of it. 18 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:40.799 Man. 19 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:45.000 Man, I guess I didn't even think about the herd 20 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:53.159 immunity value of the ember proof vents. So if I 21 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:56.520 was listening correctly, and I think I was, Tim was 22 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:59.600 talking about if you don't have houses catching on fire, 23 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:02.799 then basically you're limiting the amount of fuel that can 24 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:10.000 burn in one of these massive fires, right right, And 25 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:14.719 if that's the case, and you can limit these fires, 26 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:18.599 then for every house that has the ember proof vents 27 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:22.439 on that are able to, you know, to remove fuel 28 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:24.599 as a possibility, all of a sudden, every house helps 29 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:28.120 the next house, and the whole neighborhood kind of works together. 30 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:29.560 As a fire block. 31 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:33.640 Basically. That is fascinating. I thought that was really interesting stuff. 32 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:38.359 Good content, man, good content. Meanwhile, look, we've all been 33 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:40.920 thinking it, and that is every time there's a massive fire, 34 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:43.680 and I'm not just talking about residential areas. Every time 35 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:47.599 we have a big fire and it wipes out the vegetation, 36 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:50.359 that means that we don't have the roots holding things on, 37 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:54.840 and then we worry about what happens when rain comes. 38 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:57.200 We know what happens, right. We know. 39 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:02.599 Some places that the fire itself are now running into 40 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:07.159 some other issues with the ground already beginning to shift. 41 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:10.240 ABC seven was talking about that because there's a house 42 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:12.560 in I believe it's one of the Palisa's houses that 43 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:16.199 survived the fire didn't survive after This is. 44 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:19.280 One of the stranger situations where a home that wasn't 45 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:22.599 burned to the ground, is literally broken in half. And 46 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.800 again Lacity Fire with their damage assessment teams are still 47 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:29.039 trying to figure out what happened here. 48 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:32.919 What caused that is still under investigation by our damage 49 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:33.759 assessment team. 50 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:35.800 House just split in half, you know, like when the 51 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:38.199 Titanic started going down and then it's cracked in half. 52 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:39.039 That's what this house did. 53 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:40.840 Now, if you look right above it, you're going to 54 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:44.439 see a lot of smoldering debris and things that have burned. 55 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:50.159 It's apparent the infrastructures absolutely compromised. Some smell of gas 56 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:50.840 up there. 57 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:54.120 Yeah, well, smell of gas in here. Okay, stop. 58 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:59.199 The water is still flowing from the area. The foundation 59 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:04.400 is comp there's no power. It's damaged so significantly that 60 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:08.719 it has been red tag deeming it unsafe for people 61 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:10.159 to go in that area. 62 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:13.280 It split like a KitKat bar right in the middle, 63 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:16.840 just crack of course, it's unsafe to go in there. 64 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:20.560 So what happens when we get a significant amount of rain? 65 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:22.400 I think we all know the answer. 66 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.680 If there's a heavy rain, we're told, then there's the 67 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:27.439 thread of debris flow and MUDs lines. Yeah, because of 68 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.800 all of the vegetation that's been burned away. LA City 69 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:33.840 and County Fire is preparing for that as well. And 70 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:36.039 again for those of you who want to come back 71 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.599 in here, as you heard Sheriff Louona on our ear 72 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:39.520 our last. 73 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:42.280 Segment, you didn't hear that because radio, you need to 74 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:43.000 be patient. 75 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:47.439 The earliest maybe a week from now, but experience tells 76 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:51.520 us it'll probably be longer than that. And again still 77 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:55.520 under investigation, what caused this house to literally be snapped 78 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:56.000 in half. 79 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:59.840 When he says next week or whatever, to try to 80 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:01.120 get in, probably longer than that. 81 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:02.879 That's just to get in to see if you have 82 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:03.919 a house standing. 83 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:07.800 That's not to get in, and you know, bring the 84 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:10.479 wife and kids and dog and cat and everything you 85 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:13.719 grabbed back. That's just to see if you have anything left. 86 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:18.199 There are some areas where people will not be returning 87 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:23.279 for a year and a half, two years. It blows 88 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:27.920 my mind. And here's the sad truth with every natural disaster. 89 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.160 And look, we do it too. You gotta admit we 90 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:30.560 do it too. 91 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:36.639 A hurricane hits in Houston, there's flooding in Asheville, North Carolina, 92 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:39.839 we go, oh my goodness, that's terrible. And then all right, well, 93 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:41.759 the rains have stopped. Okay, well they're cleaning it up, 94 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:46.959 and then cameras leave. Ashville, North Carolina is not to 95 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:51.120 what it was back in October. It's still an absolute 96 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:53.199 mess and will be for a very long time, as 97 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:55.399 will so many of our neighborhoods. 98 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:57.600 Just just a wreck. Man. 99 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:05.199 What what I think is somewhat infuriating is with the 100 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:07.560 finger pointing that goes on everybody's well, why didn't the 101 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:13.199 news rake the forest? Which silly argument, and why didn't 102 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:14.680 so and so do this? And why didn't so and 103 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:18.439 so do that? And I have this conversation with my 104 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:20.560 father and I go round and round on these things. 105 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:24.759 I talk about some of the devastating fires, and we 106 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:27.720 talked extensively back when the campfire happened and wiped out 107 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:30.399 the town of Paradise, and I said it was you know, 108 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:33.040 it was power lines and that was a bad deal 109 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:37.199 and horrible situation. And he says, well, you know, I 110 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:41.040 always love when I get Dad explained, you know, fires 111 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.040 are normal, they're very good for the they're very good 112 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:44.480 for the forest. 113 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:45.560 The forest need the fires. 114 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.600 And I said, I would agree with you, certainly, not 115 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:53.240 at the frequency that we're seeing certainly not at the 116 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:57.279 magnitude that we're seeing, and Pop says, well, I don't 117 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.560 know about that. You realize that if you take a 118 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:03.360 look at at the wildfires, what causes the wildfires, it's 119 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:06.680 something like ninety plus percent are human caused, maybe even 120 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:10.519 more than ninety percent human caused, which means that we 121 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.600 it's not nature's natural cleansing of an area. This is 122 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:18.879 us contributing to it, which is why so many people 123 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:22.519 are wondering what started these fires. It wasn't lightning, it 124 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:27.360 wasn't a volcanic eruption that started the fires. I think 125 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.319 it's safe to say it is human cause in some way, 126 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.399 shape or form. As I mentioned the campfire, that was 127 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:36.600 PG and E power lines. And now you've probably heard 128 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:39.560 about what's going on with the Eaton fire, and I 129 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:42.279 know that the oh I think it was. The CEO 130 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:45.839 of Edison was talking with ABC seven and they asked 131 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:47.800 him about was it your power lines? And then he 132 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.399 got he sort of started ceo'splaining things, and I. 133 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:54.120 Said, Dan with Pedro Pizarro, President and CEO Edison International, 134 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.920 the parent company of Southern California Edison, we covered a 135 00:06:56.920 --> 00:06:59.839 wide range of topics, but I want to focus on 136 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:02.480 concern and questions over the pie. 137 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:03.720 Skip ahead here. What does he say? 138 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:07.560 There were two sets of lines along Eaton Canyon. On 139 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.800 the west side, there's a distribution, a lower voltage line. 140 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:14.560 Distribution are the lines that typically go into homes. That 141 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:19.480 line had covered conductor, but it had already been deenergized. 142 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:22.439 Power had been turned off something like two hours before 143 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:23.600 the report had started the fire. 144 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:26.040 Now, when he says lower voltage, what he's talking about 145 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:28.199 is what's coming into your house is going into your service, 146 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:32.240 all right, So you're talking two twenty that's going into 147 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:34.720 your service. Maybe maybe a little bit more than that, 148 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:37.000 all right, You're That's when he says low volt He's 149 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:39.839 not talking about speaker wire, all right, So let's not 150 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:44.519 He says low voltage to power companies is different than 151 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:45.600 low voltage to you and I. 152 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:48.519 We also have transmission lines on the east side of 153 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:54.600 the canyon, and those were energized. But the criteria for 154 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:57.920 when we shut off also depends on the type of line. 155 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:00.560 Bedrim Pizzato is referring to the power line in this 156 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:04.040 photo taken during very early stages of the Eaton fire. 157 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:06.720 You can't see it because TV but it's a photo. 158 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:08.360 You've probably seen it. It's a photo. It's a house, 159 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.480 and you can see the fire behind the house, up 160 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:13.399 the hill and under the power. 161 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.879 Lines along the Eaton Canyon hiking trail. He explains why 162 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:19.040 those lines were still energized. 163 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:20.360 And think about it this way. 164 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:25.639 The smaller lines distribution lines, they're lighter. If you have 165 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:28.199 strong winds, you know, they can get buffeted around more 166 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:32.679 than a heavy, more robust transmission tower transmission line, and 167 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:36.759 so we typically have higher wind speeds that are the 168 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:41.039 thresholds for transmission versus distribution. So that's why those transmission 169 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:42.759 lines were not the energized. 170 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:44.559 So okay, how'd that work out? 171 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:48.600 I mean, there's going to be an investigation, right, gonna 172 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:53.080 be an investigation. We'll see. But look, if you're like me, 173 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:55.799 I'm not breaking anything here. This is not any sort 174 00:08:55.799 --> 00:09:00.399 of like shocking information. When the fire started breaking out, 175 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:02.600 we all wanted, first of all, we want everybody to 176 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:04.080 be safe, YadA, YadA, YadA. 177 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:05.039 But what caused this? 178 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:08.879 And in my head, I thought I'd put fifty bucks 179 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:10.799 on at least one of these things was caused by power. 180 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:12.759 At least one of them was caused by the power 181 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:18.320 lines at least one, and we don't know about the 182 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:21.720 Palisades fire. Sounds like maybe that one is a different cause. 183 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:27.039 But also it's because of the bipedal wildlife, meaning you 184 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:29.519 and me humans in the area. 185 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.080 What did we do wrong in that? I'm gonna tell 186 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:34.120 you about that here in just Semitic. 187 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:38.240 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 188 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.039 KFI AM sixty Christ Maryland. 189 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:43.120 From o Kelly KFI AM six forty listen anytime on 190 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:45.240 demand of the iHeart Radio app. 191 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:46.879 It is. 192 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:48.240 It is an honor being with you. 193 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.320 I am as frustrated as most anybody who is watching 194 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:55.759 from afar, and by a far, I mean I don't 195 00:09:56.000 --> 00:10:00.440 have any property that is in immediate danger anything like that, 196 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:06.240 so and I think most most Southern Californians don't. But boy, 197 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:08.799 we are watching very carefully because we don't know when 198 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:10.840 the next spark might happen. We don't know when the 199 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:14.200 next the next fire might pop up, or who it 200 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:17.480 might threaten. So and we've already seen other smaller fires 201 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:20.679 that fortunately the firefighters have done a magnificent job of 202 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:24.440 tamping those out very quickly. We've seen some crazy people 203 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:27.360 with flamethrowers deciding they're going to go out and see 204 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:29.399 if they can start fires. I don't know what's wrong 205 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:33.320 with people, but the majority of us are worried, not necessarily. 206 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:34.840 I mean, we're worried about the wins, obviously, but we're 207 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:38.679 not necessarily worried about nature starting a fire. We're worried 208 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:41.200 about nature fanning any fire that might be there. And 209 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:43.120 it sounds like when it comes to the Palisades fire, 210 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:51.360 it is all on humans. This is human caused. Now, 211 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:57.720 maybe not the actual Palisades fire, but the fire itself 212 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:01.919 may have come from a previous fire that was human cause. 213 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:04.279 For the third day in a row, investigators with the 214 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:06.759 eighth this is a couple days old, but is good audio. 215 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:10.360 Tf's National Response team zeroed in on mountainous terrain behind 216 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:14.320 homes in the Palisades Highland section of Pacific Palisades. This 217 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:16.799 is where they believe the January seventh fire that's burned 218 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.320 over twenty three thousand acres started right but how did 219 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:23.960 it start? But investigators wouldn't confirm whether that fire was 220 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:26.440 a reignition of an eight acre brush fire. 221 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:27.279 Six days prior. 222 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:30.360 There you go, it's a reignition they're not confirming it, 223 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.320 and that's fine. They shouldn't whatever they're doing their investigation. 224 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:35.879 I get it, but it sure seems like a pretty 225 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:42.600 reasonable avenue to explore. It is deserving of great scrutiny 226 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:43.320 and investigation. 227 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.000 We've heard those reports, but I cannot get into a 228 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.519 specifics of what we have found or located up there 229 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:50.000 as far as a way of evidence. 230 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.919 Okay, was there any lightning in the area on January seventh, No, 231 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.320 there wasn't. Okay, any other acts of God that might 232 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:02.200 have started the fire, No, all right, and it probably 233 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:05.759 started in that burnscar area from the previous brush fire. 234 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:06.840 All right. 235 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:10.960 Reignitions can happen a week, maybe even two weeks after 236 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:11.879 a previous fire. 237 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:13.159 We know that to be the case. 238 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.840 All right, So this seems like got pretty plausible, if 239 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:21.480 not probable, the cause of the Palisades fire a reignition 240 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:23.240 from a previous fire. 241 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:25.759 But we are looking into everything. We will leave no 242 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:26.960 stone unturned. 243 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:30.240 The ETF tells Eyewitness Snooze they've received over one hundred 244 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:32.840 and fifty leads and tips from residents so far, and 245 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:35.879 that this investigation will take time because of the size 246 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:39.200 and scope of the fire. Obviously, this side by side 247 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:42.080 satellite image. You can't see it because radio shows the 248 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:45.279 burn scar from that January first fire and the beginning 249 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:48.360 of the Massive Palisades fire on January seventh. 250 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:50.320 Oh, they just happen to be the same place. 251 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:54.159 It's near the Skull Rock trailhead. Residents say the smoke 252 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.200 from both fires was in the same location. 253 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:58.080 They're experts in this field. 254 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:01.840 We have certified fire and instigators up there, certified explosives 255 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:02.720 to experts up there. 256 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:06.200 By the way, What a cool job. I know there's 257 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.720 got to be a school for certified fire investigators. But 258 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.480 where was my high school guidance conselor in that one, 259 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:13.639 because I definitely would have explored that avenue. 260 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:15.440 That just seems like a cool job. 261 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:19.399 Accelerate detection canines with us trying to narrow down the 262 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:21.480 origin of the fire. Yes, they are up in the 263 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:25.080 Skull Rock area working, but that's where the evidence has 264 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:26.039 led us right now. 265 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:29.039 You mean back to where the burn scar was from 266 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:29.879 the brush fire. 267 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:32.279 Yeah, and then the other half of the team are 268 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:35.840 going door to door asking for that video surveillance or 269 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:38.519 what people saw or what they didn't see in certain 270 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:39.360 dates of time. 271 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:41.559 Eric Robertson was one of the first nine one one 272 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:44.399 callers on January seventh, out taking a walk with his 273 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:48.039 wife when he spotted flames. Robertson says he didn't see 274 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:51.200 anyone in the area when the fire started. Residents heard 275 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:53.320 that the New Year's Day fire may have been caused 276 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:54.320 by fireworks. 277 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:55.480 Ah, there you go. 278 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:58.879 And I asked the ATF whether they've found any fragments 279 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:01.679 of fireworks. All I was told is that their team 280 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:04.799 is trained in fireworks and that is one of the 281 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:06.279 many theories they're looking at. 282 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:07.879 Live in Pacific Palisades. 283 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:10.759 Josh Haskell, ABC seven eyewitness. 284 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:13.519 ND, all right, thank you very much. So fireworks on 285 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:16.600 New Year's what that's crazy? Who would have thought such 286 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:21.039 a thing. I can't stand fireworks. Just ban them all 287 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:22.480 over the place. Ban them on the fourth of July 288 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:28.279 everywhere fireworks are so there's no upside to fireworks. My 289 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:30.279 wife hates when I start talking about fireworks because she 290 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.399 loves the fireworks. I can't stand fireworks. Do you do 291 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:34.799 you have like a lot of people around your house 292 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:35.159 that do it? 293 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:35.639 Yes? 294 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:39.200 Yeah, all illegal, of course, yeah, of course, yeah, but 295 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:41.039 they love they just love the fireworks. 296 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:42.799 I mean it sounds like it sounds like you're in 297 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:43.360 a war zone. 298 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:46.360 No, yeah, that's not even an exaggeration because me and 299 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:49.000 Moe kind of live in close proximity to each other. Yeah, 300 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:51.000 and in the area that we live, it's like the 301 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:54.879 one like whatever square mile you want to call it. 302 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:58.519 Oh my god, it's still legal. And you know when 303 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.440 he does his show from chatte chatte mo, you know 304 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:04.240 you can hear it. It sounds like it's out like 305 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:07.240 behind his window were gym, but it's crazy and it's like, no, 306 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:09.000 that was that was blocked down. 307 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:09.799 Yeah. 308 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:12.960 Look, I was doing shows and I had closed the 309 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:14.799 window and I thought, oh, people are going to hear this. 310 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:17.159 I mean, it sounds like cannon's going off outside my window. 311 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:20.120 I can't stand it. My wife gets so angry with 312 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:22.440 me because I just don't. I'm not a fireworks guy 313 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:25.080 in general. What is the upside? Oh, but it's it's 314 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:28.120 we love to blow things up in America. We have 315 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:33.240 we have veterans that have PTSD where it's it's difficult. 316 00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:38.159 How many households don't have pets nowadays. I mean we're 317 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:39.960 at the point where I what is it. It's got 318 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:41.919 to be more than fifty percent of households have pets. 319 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:45.200 Pets don't do well with boom booms, right, not at all? 320 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:47.639 So what is what is the advantage? 321 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:48.600 You know what I like? 322 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:51.080 I like the new drone shows. I like drone shows 323 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:53.279 a lot. Took the words right in my mouth. They're great. 324 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:54.039 Those are cool. 325 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:57.840 Yeah, I love that they're great. In the meantime, somebody 326 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:02.120 wanted to set off fireworks. Sounds like fireworks or maybe 327 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:03.879 a campfire. Could have been a campfire too. I don't 328 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:07.679 want to just assume it's fireworks. But look again, that 329 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:10.600 fire started New Year's Day or New Year's Eve, late 330 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:14.159 New Year's Eve, I mean firework time. And now we've 331 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:18.600 got thirteen thousand structures that are burned. Good job, guys, 332 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:23.679 I mean this is us. We are going to be 333 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:28.080 the cause of our own destruction on this planet. There's 334 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:31.879 no doubt about it. I mean, whether it's slowly we 335 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:34.519 try to destroy our planet or rapidly we try to 336 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:38.759 destroy the planet. We're very bad at taking care of 337 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:40.879 where we live. We're very bad at it. 338 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:42.360 Boy. 339 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.039 I am just on a grumpy little roll tonight, don't I. 340 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:50.320 But I always want to offer solutions, solution bat all fireworks, 341 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:53.600 stop the sale of fireworks. If you've got to get 342 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:56.320 the president elect on board, then you just say, fireworks 343 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.519 are there. It's a Chinese invention and we don't need it, 344 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:03.120 that's what you say. You just bring his brand, his 345 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:07.200 xenophobia into it. Just fireworks is the Chinese. They're trying 346 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.480 to destroy America by inventing fireworks seven hundred years ago. 347 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:14.599 Whatever fan the fireworks fill done on its head, flip it. Yeah, 348 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.079 just be done with it. Just be done with it. 349 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:22.440 Meanwhile, if we aren't destroying the world in which we live, 350 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:26.359 we're trying to destroy one another. But fortunately we have 351 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:29.559 elected officials to protect us. I don't feel safe about that. 352 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.960 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from 353 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:37.079 KFI AM six forty Chris Mariland from. 354 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.279 O Kelly I Am six forty, listen to anytime on 355 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:41.440 demand the iHeart Radio app. 356 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:47.160 Okay, uh fires, where were we? Oh? 357 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:47.359 Yes? 358 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:52.079 Here? It is horrible, horrible people. So look, as a species, 359 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:56.599 we're terrible. Right. We do not take care of the 360 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.799 planet that we have. We just assume it'll be around. 361 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:02.640 We very much take it for granted. Whether that's because 362 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:06.480 we set off fireworks during a dry, windy season, or 363 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:11.680 we just decide smog is fun. Whatever it is, we're 364 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:17.400 terrible stewards of the environment. But that said, maybe the 365 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:20.640 worst are the people who take advantage during a disaster. 366 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:26.559 Scam artists taking advantage of people in the area that 367 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:31.440 are losing homes. And I don't know if you're getting 368 00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:34.519 phone calls, I don't know. I don't know if you're 369 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.759 getting bid well, we're here to help, you can reach out. 370 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:40.079 I mean, these are as bad as the whole your 371 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:43.079 car could be at the end of a warranty, blah 372 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:46.039 blah blah. Those people right, your cars extended warranty. I 373 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:50.920 hate those scammers. It's even worse when scammers prey on 374 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:53.319 people in an emotional state, and of course they do 375 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:56.400 because we're more vulnerable. 376 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:00.359 Right, It's kind of like, uh. 377 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:08.480 Like crooked funeral homes. Right, you know, I know that 378 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:12.400 your I know that your beloved mother had a plan. 379 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:16.200 But now that she's gone, don't you think she'd want 380 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:19.440 this upgraded casket. Don't you think she'd want the extra 381 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:22.359 plush pillows. Don't you think she would want this? 382 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:23.160 Oh? 383 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:23.599 Would she? 384 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:27.119 I don't know, Because she's dead. I don't think she's 385 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:29.519 gonna notice how soft the pillow is. But you know 386 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:32.720 how they just like the crooked people, just they prey 387 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:36.559 on people when they're the most vulnerable. So now we've 388 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:41.000 got Laeda. Nathan Hoffman says, oh no, he's going. After 389 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:44.079 he talked with the people at ABC seven. He was 390 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:46.279 talking about the looters and the scammers and all these 391 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:49.960 tool bags. It's the nicest thing I can say. 392 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:54.200 You know, the level of criminal activity is quite candidly despicable. 393 00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:57.680 We have firefighters literally putting their lives on the line 394 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:00.440 every day to save lives in our homes. We have 395 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:03.200 law enforcement work in twenty four hours a day to 396 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:06.359 keep us safe and secure. I'm one of over two 397 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:11.079 hundred thousand people who've cooperated in this evacuation. People like 398 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:15.240 my sister have lost their home in Pacific Palisades, and 399 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:16.519 thousands of people. 400 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:18.839 All right, hakmen, we don't need to be tragedy poaching 401 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:20.480