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Speaker 1: Pete, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Thanks for coming back on.

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. It's been Uh, it's

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been fun this year.

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Speaker 1: It has and you know I wanted to do. I

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guess it's becoming more of a theme. And this is

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what Tom Luongo I said, you know, because we talked

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about movies. Tom and I and you and I have

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touched on movies. And I'm like, you know, we can

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put the Armageddon and all that stuff on. You know,

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plenty of time to revisit nuclear war and what happens

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in twenty five with the administration, and you know, on

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and on and on. Let's lighten it up for a

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conversation and just talk about that, talk about movies, and uh,

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I don't know, like it doesn't have to be people

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always say doom, doom. But here's what's funny with Tom's episode.

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Some people are like, oh, this is great, like you know,

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so cool you guys. And other people are like, you

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should have put in the description that was movie talk,

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so we don't have to waste our time. And I'm like,

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my god, I'm like, it's it's in the description. It's

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I just didn't announce it before we started that we're

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going to talk about movies.

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Speaker 2: People don't want to read. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: So I don't know about you, man. I just I

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have these big movies this time of year. You know,

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it's a little bit of downtime, and you know, some

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movies I can hang on to from my childhood and

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other movies you put on you. I am man, five

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minutes of this, I can't do it. Like even Christmas Story,

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I watched twenty minutes of it last night. I love

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that movie, but I just I don't know. I can't

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get through it anymore. Vacation. I didn't watch Christmas Vacation.

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I didn't watch Home Alone. I've seen so many times

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that I just, yeah, you feel the same.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I didn't watch Christmas Story last year,

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which is I always like watch. I think one channel

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does it, like twenty four hours in a row, so

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I watch. I watched it like one time a year,

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and last year I didn't do it, And this year

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I didn't even see any of it. We did watch

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because we were over. I was over my in laws.

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We watched a good significant portion of Christmas Vacation, which

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I hadn't seen in years, so it was nice seeing that,

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and also a good portion of Home Alone. A Home

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Alone just to me doesn't stand up. It's just too corny,

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it's too cheesy, and it's just too Yeah. I just don't. Yeah,

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there's nothing there for me. I mean, how could I know?

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Speaker 1: It's a kid's movie. But it's like he's got all

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this time to prep for these robbers to come here.

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He could have just ran to the cop station, he

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runs at the store, he runs to the church. Like

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he's the villain of the show.

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Speaker 2: He's the villain of the movie. I mean he's a

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little nudnick. I mean he's like, I mean, just why

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would you want? Come on? Come on?

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: You can tell in the in the interaction with the cashier,

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you know, and he's just he's just a rude little ship.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think my fondest memory that movies I

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remember going to the theater see it. I was in

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seventh grade and that was a big deal for your

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parents to drop you off.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: We had our Zekevurici's on and we went to the

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mall back when it was still cool just to go

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to the mall and you couldn't weary your Raiders starter

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Jacket in the mall, especially in Cleveland. You were like,

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if you did that, you would people would try to

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steal it from you. And going to see that movie

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in the theater, Yeah, no, it was.

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Speaker 2: They're they're good movies. You can watch them with your people,

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can watch them with young kids. Christmas Vacation. There's a

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couple of parts in that that are kind of kind

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of tough to watch with the kids because you know,

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he does drop a couple f bombs in there, and

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there is some very adult humor. But as far as

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a Christmas story goes, and as far as Home Alone,

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I mean Home Alone has a lot of violins. So

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if you want to, you know, keep your kid away

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from watching violence, you'll have. But but then again, so

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does a Christmas story. But the violence and a Christmas

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story is you know, you're beating up the bully, so

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I guess it's good violence.

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Speaker 1: So there was a movie on last night. I'm embarrassed

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to even say this. Well though I didn't get all

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the way through it, but when I was a kid,

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it was cool. It was a movie called The Santa Claus,

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not the tim Allen one, but it was The Santa

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Claus had Dudley Moore was his top elf and John

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Lifcow do you remember that at all?

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch it, but I know which one you're

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talking about.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had it out for like ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: Is terrible little drunk, little drunk British guy. That's what

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you that's what you wanted to movie.

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Speaker 1: But but you know another Christmas you know, Diehard. I've

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heard that Lethal Weapon. A friend of mine pointed out,

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He's like, when you rewatch Lethal Weapon, that movie is bad.

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Speaker 2: I still like it though, I mean it's just an

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action movie. You take those movies as action movies. I mean,

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that's that's all you're supposed to do. You know. It's

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like I know, you and long ago we were talking about

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like the first Blood movies, and the first the first movie,

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you know, was really good. There was a good and

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apparently there's a Christmas tree in the background, so that's

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a Christmas movie too. But the I mean, it's just

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a good movie and it's a good story, and then

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you know, after that, you just basically become it becomes

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action movies. Rambo three was actually like propaganda, was State

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Department propaganda, you know, at the ending it thanks to

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the Musha you know, the brave fighters of the Musha

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haden and are like that. Now they've changed it, they've

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changed it in later cuts and everything. But it was

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just basically State Department propaganda. And there was a lot

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of that in the eighties though. I mean, what was

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Rocky what was Rocky three? Or what was it was

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Rocky four? War Drago that was fourth one. Third one

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was mister t Yeah, the third one was mister Yeah.

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I mean what was that? But just Cold war propaganda.

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It was I mean everything to the steroids, to him

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having to fight in Russia, just just awful stuff. But

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you know, you watch it because it's freaking remove your

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brain entertainment. Yeah, I mean, I love there. There are

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a lot of movies that I like that are cerebral,

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but there's sometimes I just want to put something on

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and just enjoy it, you know. It's like, yeah, it's

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like the James Bond movies or or like the Mission

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Impossible movies. I don't I don't want to use my

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brain a lot, you know, I just want to I

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want to enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I only got through the first two Mission Impossibles, but

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I think it was Tom and other people, so they

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get better. The more they the more the more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, the one right now that we're waiting for

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waiting to come out, part two to come out. I

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think it's a ghost protocol that is, I mean like

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a take a heavy take on AI. I'm like, what

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AI could become everything. So there's part they're waiting for

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part two of that to come out. But yeah, I

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mean they do get better. I think they are. First,

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first one was good, second one was god awful, the

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third one was good, and they just get they get

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program actually get better after that because they're concentrating more

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on story. And also the characters are a little more interesting,

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and the more you get to know characters, the the

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more invested you can be in it, you know, as

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long as the characters stay likable. Yeah, and don't you know,

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I mean they haven't really gone woke. I'm sure somebody listening, No,

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no ad mission, impossible five, I don't care. But it's

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not something that is so blatant, you know. It's like

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Robert Pattinson's The Batman. There are two spots in it

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that they make. There's two like distinctly woke comments. But

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I was waiting for so much more. But you know

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they just put it into everything.

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Speaker 1: Now, So did you like the Batman or Robert Pattinson?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually did. I thought it was I thought

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it was pretty decent. I haven't seen the New Penguin movie,

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and I'm not gonna see the second Joker movie. I

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know that that's probably makes me a normal because I

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know some people have been like, no, there are certain nuances. No,

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I'm good, I'm good. I don't If I want to

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watch a musical, ill, I'll watch something old. I'm not

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gonna watch some studid. It's a stupid super superhero musical. Now,

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there's no nu once. There's no nuances to it, no

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matter what you think there's there's nothing brilliant about it,

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no matter what you think I wanted.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna go U feel again bored me retelling

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the story. But my buddy and I. I have a

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friend that he's a couple of years older than me,

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and we just go to movies. Like he loves to

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go to the movies. I love to go to movies.

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There's just nothing, that's nothing out there to see anymore.

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And I said, let's go see The Joker. He doesn't care.

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I'm one of those people I listened to the Critical

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Drinker on YouTube. If you ever watch that guy's channel,

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he's the guys. He's great. When I was a kid,

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I loved ciskel Nieber. That was like my kind of

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go to for movie reviews. What was everybody's go to?

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But I'm like, let's just go. I won't watch anyone,

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I won't read your reviews, I won't watch anything, and

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just to get out and do something. And I made

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the mistake for a joke too. And I still haven't

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seen any good about it and I have not met

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one person that's watched it in my in my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I heard Tim Dillon was talking about and

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he was in it, and he said, yeah, I don't

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recommend anyone go see that movie. So that's all. That's

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all I did it to hear. Yeah, it's like it's

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just it's just got awful. So yeah, I don't you know,

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if there are good movies being made right now, someone

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has to tell me about them. And I mean I

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can't even really think about a movie that someone's told

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me to watch outside of like The Mission Impossible movies

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or something like that. In the last few years, it

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has that's been made in like the last four or

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five years now, mind you, I spend more and more

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my time reading and researching than anything else I don't have.

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I do have downtime, I just spend it with my

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wife and we we watch cooking shows from Britain or

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something like that to see how god off all their

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food is. Now just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Did you see Godzilla Minus one?

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Speaker 2: I didn't see that. No good, I got it all right.

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Speaker 1: I want you to watch it because I'm like, I'm

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one of my two for three of recommending that to people.

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And some people like Colin was like, bad, bad, bad.

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It is a bad one on my He's like, wife

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didn't like it either. I thought the movie was great

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because it was different because it wasn't centered around Godzilla.

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Do you know anything about it? It's subtitled It took Place,

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so it's Japanese subtitled, and it takes place right after

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World War Two, and the premise of it is Kama

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Kazi pilot gets cold feet and decides not to carry

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out his mission, so he diverts to a part of

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the island in Japan. Godzilla hits the island. I'm not

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ruining the movie for you. Godzilla hits the island and

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he hides. Godzilla goes away, the nukes get dropped, the

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war's over, Godzilla gets stronger, and he starts heading back

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to the island. The United States government sees this and

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they said, well, screw it, let's your pan deal with this.

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It's not our problem. So the pilot throughout the whole

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movie is dealing with his guilt and shame because he

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did not he ran away.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but I.

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Speaker 1: Gotta tell you, it's really really good, like and there's

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more to it than that. But they developed the character,

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the guilt that he has. It's centered around that. And

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there's a woman and.

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Speaker 2: There's a baby, and they'll tell me no more, don't

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tell me, don't tell me no more. I'll watch it.

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Speaker 1: I was watching the part. There's a scene not to

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like so into this movie. I'm like, I cannot believe

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it back in the theater and I was laugh and

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I'm like, I can't believe I'm not into Godzilla, Like

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that's just not my my thing and it was so good.

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Speaker 2: But now you're gonna watch it and you're gonna hate it.

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I'll chuck it out. Yeah, I'll check it out. I

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am recently the Old Glory Club. You know, we do

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movie reviews every once in a while, and I haven't

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even been in on one. Thomas and I do private

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movie reviews that we put on gum Road. We're actually

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getting ready to do our next movie tomorrow, which I

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think will definitely be our biggest seller, but we'll see.

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But they did a review of Sacario, and I had

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seen Sacario when it first came out. But when it

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first came out, I was like in a real a

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political mode. I really wasn't paying attention to a lot

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after the after I like the two during the Obama years,

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I purposely just ignored politics because I knew how bad

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things were going we're gonna be. But when Trump decided

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to step into the ring and it was going to

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be himning Hillary, that's when I started paying paying attnsion

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to politics again. So like when Sacario came out, I

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didn't really think about the political implications to it. And

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then so the guys reviewed it and then I started

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and I watched I've watched it like three times in

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like the last three weeks, you know, and like in

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the last month, and I'm like, this is an amazing,

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amazing movie. It is. It basically speaks to the most

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important aspect, the most important thing that we're dealing with today, immigration,

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with the cartels. It basically is saying that there's a

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very implicit message or almost explicit message, that a woman

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should not be in law enforcement. And it goes to

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show what like real heritage Americans can get accomplished if

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they want to, that you could actually stop all this

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bull But it also shows that when it comes to

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politics and when it comes to international intrigue, you may

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have to you may have to go with the devil,

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you know. Sometimes I love that.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that movie up. I've been trying

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to get my sister to watch it, like forever, and

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she won't.

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Speaker 2: It's a hard it's a hard movie for women to

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watch though. I mean, I won't let my I wouldn't

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even let my wife watch like the opening scene of it,

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because I know she it'll it'll affect her, It'll affect

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her mood, and you know, she just doesn't like I've

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gotten to the point where I don't really like movies

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with a lot of violence and also a lot of

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just people who have no no concept of humanity when

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you're dealing with people like that. So I went and

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watched it again just because I think it's politically politically charged.

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And then I watched part two and I'm like, yeah,

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part two is really good too, shit.

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Speaker 1: Part Part two is Part two is very very good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, an ending scene that the the whole

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you could do. You could do a like a two

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hour discussion just on the final scene of the movie

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when he closes that door, you know, and he sees that,

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and the kid sees him, and he closes the door

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and he says, you know, you're gonna work for me now,

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and it's like, you're just like the implications of that,

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of the things going on in that movie are just

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they're astounding.

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Speaker 1: So so's go back to first one and then we'll

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go come back to go to the second one. But

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the end of the first one, to me, when Benzio

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dol tour and I love Benicio do Toro man, I

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mean that Usual Suspects is one of my all time

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favorite movies. And if you ever he's probably seen that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean it's one of those movies that

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you really only have to see once, but you do

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watch it again even though you you know.

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Speaker 1: But when he that seem with Emily Blunt at the end,

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when he makes her sign off on that agreement, he

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puts a gun under her and then he says, and

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I couldn't hear the dialogue. I finally had to google

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it because I couldn't make out what he was saying,

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but he says something along the lines of you should

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move to a small town where the rule of law

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still exists. Uh, this is the land you know you're

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not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now.

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and then she puts it together and comes back out

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on the balcony and points it at him, and he

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turns around and looks at her, and she doesn't do it.

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the world we're in now, where certain parts of the

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certain parts of the country, the rural law doesn't exist,

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and you have to be become this land of wolf's

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you are Wolf.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's yea. The Yeah, the hard part of

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that movie, obviously, is the hardest part of that movie

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is the final scene when he confront fronts the mob

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boss at the dinner table, because you know what he's

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going to do. You just there's a part of you

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that doesn't want him to do it because you're human,

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but you also didn't go through what he went through.

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and Tom talking about Dark Knight and how Dark Knight was.

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You know, it was like Christopher Nolan was trying to

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tell us what was coming and that we were we

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were coming to lawlessness and it and really what it

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comes down to is like in Dark Knight, it's like, Okay,

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so who why is he? Why is he able to

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get away with a lot of the things he's able

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to get away with? Why are the mobsters? Because all

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the cops are paid off? Right, I'm not saying all

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the cops are paid off now, but basically cops are not.

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They're told not to do their jobs. And then you

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have das that are you know, you don't know what

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you don't know what kind of DA you're going to get.

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And it really was when you look at it from

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that aspect, when you look back at Dark Knight or

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you look at Sacario. What he's saying at the ending is, yeah,

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we're coming to the point where Thomas talks about how

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it was Thomas seven seven seven. He talks about how

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the early nineties and even into the mid nineties was lawlessness.

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Like if you lived in a city, like you knew

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people who like I knew people who were like O ding,

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like dying. I knew people who were killing themselves because

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of hills and stuff like that, and there was a

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certain kind of lawlessness on the streets that like Giuliani

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stepped in and you know, put a put a cop

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on every corner to try and stop in New York

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City places like that. But you know, where I was

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living in South Florida hadn't achieved that yet, and there

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was still a lot of weird stuff going on. But

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it's like that, it almost feels like you we can

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get to that point very quickly and by like by

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times five. Now if something doesn't happen, you know, and

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I'm not saying that Trump's going to solve everything. I

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don't know what he's going to solve. I think it's

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all on us at this point. I think local politics

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is more important than anything and finding your own people

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and being having a support system. But yeah, I mean

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you can get we can get to the point real

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quick where that is the default. And the person who

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would stand, you know, Batman, if a Batman rose up,

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you know, like you'd be like Daniel pan me. As

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soon as they catch you, you're gonna they're gonna want to

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They're gonna want to hang you. So it seems to

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me that some people either are benefiting from you know,

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impending chaos and chaos in certain places, or they see

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that as some kind of strategy for the future in

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which they thrive and and that they benefit by it.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's what you know, you know, critics were

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were you know, judging the third Dark Knight Rises, and

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that's what I saw the beauty in that film, because

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you you saw society break down in that. Yeah there

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were holes, Okay, Yeah, he's in a cave with a

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close circuit TV that he's watching Gotham because his back

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is broken. And then the cops are in underground for

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what was it three months or nine months? And then

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they get out the next day. They're arresting everybody. I mean,

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there was definitely flawed in the script, but the premise there.

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Speaker 2: Was also there was also a scene in which the

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criminals are judging the corrupt politicians and you're like, hmmm,

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who who could bring about? Who were you going to

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get order under? You know? I mean there are a

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bunch of questions about that movie where they're basically sentencing

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all these corrupt politicians and police and everything to death.

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You know, they take over and what happens. I mean,

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it was almost like it was a message. It was

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almost like a message of you know, you might be

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better off with these people having criminals, I mean outright

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open criminals. You know. I used to say this when

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I was a libertarian. I used to say, if I

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had the choice to live in like a neighborhood that

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was run by like the local DA who's paid off

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and the cops, who are you know, just wanting to

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waiting for a pension, or to live in a mob

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neighborhood in New York, you were much safer living in

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a mob neighborhood in New York, or a neighborhood where

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I remember seeing a documentary back in when I was

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a kid, I think it was in the early eighties

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where they were talking about how the Hell's Angels actually

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had a clubhouse in Manhattan in Alphabet City. I'm not

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sure if it was in Alphabet City or right outside,

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but it was in that area at the section and

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they were interviewing, like they interviewed this old lady who

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you know, the astors said, what is it like having

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the Hell's Angels it by you? She goes, well, if

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we have any problems in the neighborhood, we go to

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them before we go to the police. So you know

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that whole Dark Knight Rises thing where it's like, okay,

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who's taking over? And you know they're judging the people

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who are in charge. It's like, what, there's there's a

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huge I think there's a as huge a statement in

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that whole scene as there is that Nolan's making a

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huge a statement in that whole scene as he does

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in Dark Night, where you're like, oh, they can just

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walk into a party with the richest people in a

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city and basically take over.

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Speaker 1: Well, then you look at the read That's one of

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my favorite trilogies, those three movies, because this first one

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I thought was great too.

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Speaker 2: Well, the first movie is amazing. The first movie is

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so underrated. So I mean, rall, I agree, he makes

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complete sense. He I mean when he's talking and he's like, yo,

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civilizations just have to be burned, I'm like, yes, they

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almost absolutely have to.

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Speaker 1: And he and I forgot what his exact words were

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in that, but it was like, uh, he didn't say judgment,

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but it was something like a long as like reset,

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start over, and and that's where band came in to

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carry it out in the third one. But that was

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the premise of that whole trilogy, and it was like,

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because this is where we're at, and yet people still think,

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I mean, I you know, if you shave off fifty

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million off the government deficit, the deficit, that's going to

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do what you think we're past. I'm sorry, We're just

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past all that.

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Speaker 2: And Nolan like, especially if you watch Dark Knight. Okay,

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so the opening, the opening scene, him standing on the

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corner waiting to be picked up, the music, that crescendo,

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that that build where it like builds to an absolute chaos.

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I mean, he he's not only telling you the story

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in words and in pictures, and indeed he's telling you

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the story in music. Go just watch Dark Knight for

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the music. You will be absolutely floored at how perfect

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the music is and how the music is is pretty

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much it is chaos right from the start. It's I

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mean that trilogy really is like one of the one

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of the greatest things I've ever seen. I think I

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saw a Dark Knight in the theater like two or

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three times. I definitely saw it two times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and even and even you know when Morgan Freeman,

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when Christian Bail is able to figure out the sonic

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with with the sonogram with the so he could track

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the whole city is under surveillance, and then he tells

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Morgan Freeman, just type in your name and it'll blow up.

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You know, if this was real world, they would never

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give up that power.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I mean only I mean, okay, so, I

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mean where was that? When was that made? A couple

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of years after Palin's Here came into existence?

472
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: He came out right.

473
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and palains Here was already in existence,

474
00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:39,440
right yeah. When the way he got the idea for that?

475
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,759
Speaker 1: And how about the how about the end when Gary

476
00:24:43,759 --> 00:24:45,680
Oldman says to his son, you know, he's not the hero.

477
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,160
He's not the hero. We need right now, you know,

478
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,559
But I mean, just God, have such a movie that's

479
00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:53,599
a perfect movie.

480
00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sometimes he's going to have to become

481
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,559
He's going to have to become the villain. It's the

482
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,319
and then you know, of course, the making the choice

483
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,799
where he basically he say, oh, you make the choice,

484
00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:09,920
and he's like, I'm gonna go after Rachel and everything

485
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,920
like that, and then it turns out that he's not.

486
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,720
And what you know, I interpreted that to be no

487
00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:19,720
matter what choice you make when it comes to like

488
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,160
elite power, they are still gonna pretty much get what

489
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,640
they want. You may be able to influence it, but

490
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,559
they're gonna get what they want it.

491
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I really wanted him to do this next

492
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,079
Bond movie. Man, he just announced he's doing The Odyssey,

493
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,160
Nolan's next film. I just would have loved And that's

494
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,880
what Tom Longo and I were talking about. I would

495
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,799
have loved to see what he would done with Vintage.

496
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,880
I love James Bond. Although I I if you listened

497
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,119
to the Connery ones, I only saw never Say Never Again.

498
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I mean I know that my my buddies

499
00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:52,599
in the Old Glory Club will get on me for

500
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,960
saying this, But I mean, I think Daniel Craig was

501
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,400
just is just so perfect, because I mean I grew

502
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,559
up with Roger Moore. Roger Moore just I don't care

503
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:06,160
how many women were around. He just seemed gay. He

504
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:09,640
seemed to femin it. Dalton was good, you know, Dalton

505
00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:13,359
was good, and but you know, and Connery. I mean,

506
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,920
but Connery was after my time. And I've really never

507
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,279
gone back and searched out the Sean Connery Thomas and

508
00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:25,039
I just did a did a review of Highlander. But

509
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,799
you know, Sean Connery is in that for what ten minutes,

510
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,400
fifteen minutes, So it's most people don't realize that because

511
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,039
his name's on it, and it's like, oh, well, he's

512
00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:34,559
only in there for like fifteen minutes.

513
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: Did you see him? And never said ever again.

514
00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:43,319
Speaker 2: I did not. Oh so I don't I if I've

515
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,039
seen any Sean Connery double O seven's, it was when

516
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:48,799
I was a kid, and I just don't remember them.

517
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: So the only reason when I saw that as a

518
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,559
as a kid, we had cable, so we had HBO,

519
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,880
Cinemax and whatnot and show Time in the movie channel.

520
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,799
I only had four channels back then, and Sean Connery

521
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:02,559
because he always said he would never play Bomb when

522
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:05,480
he left, but he reprised his role for Never Say

523
00:27:05,519 --> 00:27:08,960
Never Again, and they released it the same year as Octopussy,

524
00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:12,200
so they used a lot of the same character names,

525
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:16,200
but it wasn't under the Bond umbrella for whatever they had.

526
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,640
They had the screen rights to the script. But I

527
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:23,039
watch it because Octopussy they were both on cable at

528
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:25,039
the same time, and Kim Basinger was the Bond girl

529
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,960
Never Say Never Again, which I mean, who did I

530
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,880
love Kim Basinger. Yeah at that time. Yeah, and that

531
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,039
was the director. The guy that directed that was he

532
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,559
didn't do Return the Jedi was Iern Kershner, so he

533
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:37,480
did Empire Strikes Back, and then he moved over to

534
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:38,480
Never Say Never Again.

535
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh again. I thought about Star Star Wars.

536
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: Now, Well, no, I was just going to say, what

537
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,359
about Pierce Brosnan. Bond was good.

538
00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of the stuff he's done later on roles,

539
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:59,960
he's been in pretty decent. Yeah, the stuff they came

540
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,039
out in the nineties. I really didn't watch an insane

541
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,559
amount of TV or movies in the nineties, so I've

542
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,480
had to play catch up with that. It's like I

543
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:12,799
didn't see the like the the prequels, the Star Wars

544
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:16,319
prequels until like years after because I just wasn't watching

545
00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:18,839
movies at that time. I was I was working really

546
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:21,839
hard and it was I had projects all over the place.

547
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,559
But the yeah, it wasn't really until Daniel Craig came

548
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:30,039
along that I started watching Bond again. So that's probably

549
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:33,839
why they're I like them more. If I went back

550
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:35,960
and I watched I mean, like I've seen, you know,

551
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:38,440
you know, a Bond movie. I've seen more than any

552
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,200
and it's just because it was like my mom's favorite.

553
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,599
It was to George Lason Beyond Her My Myjesty's Secret Service.

554
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: I never saw it.

555
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,839
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's so good. Yeah, it's depressing and

556
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,839
it's really good. Yeah, it's really he was a good

557
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:54,799
Bond And definitely.

558
00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: I've heard Nolan talk about it, because Nolan said that

559
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,000
Lasenbie and Timothy Dalton were his two favorite.

560
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:07,759
Speaker 2: It's mhmm, yeah, Laze and b was something, but the Yeah,

561
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:11,160
so once Craig, Once Craig took over, I was like

562
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,599
in a I was in a movie mode where I

563
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,799
was watching a lot, a lot of movies and yeah,

564
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:20,119
I just watched them all. Watch I watched everyone that

565
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,599
he's been in.

566
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see the last one. Uh what was it?

567
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,799
Nothing to die for? Whatever?

568
00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: The last one was that he did. The last one

569
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:32,519
he did, I can't remember. Yeah, I remember right off

570
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:32,920
the top of my.

571
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: Head, Skyfall, I thought was sky Fall was one of

572
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,680
my favorites. I loved Doctor Fussy, but I was a

573
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,359
little kid, and the fact that you're on a boat

574
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:43,599
with a bunch of hot women, I mean, come on,

575
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,079
come on, view to a kill was a little bit

576
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:48,079
of a stretch because he's like making out with uh

577
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:50,559
Tanya whatever she died.

578
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,039
Speaker 2: But my but, but my favorite, my favorite Bond theme

579
00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:56,359
song of all time, just because I loved Duran Durant.

580
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,319
Speaker 1: It was awesome. Yeah, it was a great song, the

581
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:02,000
back to back because The Living Daylights was a good

582
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:02,759
theme song too.

583
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, how did they who thoughts of

584
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:13,920
resurrec Duran Duran for that? So good good choice. At

585
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,400
that point Duran Duran was like really not? And then

586
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:20,640
you know they that like springboard their career and everything.

587
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,839
They restarted their career in the nineties. I remember CMM

588
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:27,480
at a at a record signing once like in the

589
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:28,200
mid nineties.

590
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: That's funny. Now now, alright, let's go to Star Wars.

591
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:33,799
You've seen all the Star Wars and all the movies.

592
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Have you seen The Last Jedi? And this is this

593
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,920
is going on Twitter today. Long ago was going back

594
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,680
and forth with a friend of mine about The Last

595
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:45,200
Jedi because Top Top is adamant that it's a good movie.

596
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,000
What are your thoughts on that, Pete?

597
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:55,119
Speaker 2: All right, I only saw it once and there were

598
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,480
some things that really bothered me about it. Some things

599
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:03,000
just didn't seem you know. It's like, well they are okay,

600
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:07,319
they're on the surface of a starship fighting. Are they

601
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,240
in the atmosphere? Are they out of atmosphere? No one's

602
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,759
where what's going on here? That kind of stuff bothers me.

603
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,640
I'm just one of those people. It's like I see

604
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,279
that and I'm like, this is gonna I'm gonna be

605
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:29,640
thinking about this. They weren't bad, it's just the I guess,

606
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:37,759
the making like Luke into like some emo guy who's

607
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:40,319
like like an old emo guy who's like, you know,

608
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,759
he was in an emo band once and they were

609
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:47,000
they were kind of popular locally. But now he's still

610
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:50,440
the same depressed emo guy, but he's like moved and

611
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,240
he's like living, you know, on a on his own

612
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:56,039
island or something like that. I don't know. I just

613
00:31:56,119 --> 00:32:02,480
the the It almost seem like Luke's whole character in

614
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:05,759
the in the later episode, in the later in seven

615
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:10,519
eight and nine and eight nine really are just like

616
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:14,960
a meme. They're they're perfect for memes. They don't really

617
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,839
I don't even know if they needed to be there.

618
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:22,839
It was more like it made more sense, like at

619
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:26,160
the what was at the last episode of The Mandalorian

620
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,599
for season one, for to bring Luke back as young Luke,

621
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,599
that made more sense than it did for for the

622
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:39,240
for Last for Last Jedi. I mean, I don't know.

623
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,480
There were some things I liked about it. I mean,

624
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:50,880
freaking Carrie Fisher flying through space, and I mean there

625
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,400
are some things when I'm watching a show, watching a

626
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,839
movie that when it happens, it's just gonna bother me.

627
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,079
I mean, I'm just gonna be there, like, what are

628
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:03,160
you doing? He didn't need it, didn't need to go here.

629
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,599
It could have been I don't know. I don't know.

630
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:08,599
Now I'm thinking back, I'm thinking back along the storyline

631
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,319
and everything, and I'm remembering, you know, a lot of

632
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:14,160
it because I haven't watched it since. I haven't watched

633
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:17,519
these since they came out. But they're not as memory.

634
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,599
They're not as memorable to me as like the Originals,

635
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,000
and really the Originals four, five, and six. The only

636
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:25,720
reason they're memorable to me is because I was a

637
00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:29,960
kid and I was really into them. You know, here's

638
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:37,480
a good am, here's a good Star Wars trivia the

639
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:42,039
first movie, it's not really Star Wars trivia. France didn't

640
00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:45,359
retire the guillotine until after the first Star Wars movie.

641
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,759
They actually beheaded somebody with the guillotine after the first

642
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:53,480
Star Wars movie came out. That's how That's how long

643
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:56,640
they France kept the Star Wars movie. And that's how

644
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,559
early this first Star Wars movie.

645
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:02,119
Speaker 1: Was with the original episode four yeah.

646
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and seventy seven.

647
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:06,599
Speaker 1: Wow.

648
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: I remember reading that bit of trivia a couple of

649
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,119
like twenty years ago. That's the kind of shit that

650
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,719
I remember. You give me a piece of trivia like that,

651
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,960
I'm gonna hold on to it. I'll be talking about

652
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,599
it on my deathbed. But you want to tell, you know,

653
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:22,559
if someone wants to bring up, Oh remember this scene

654
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:25,519
in a movie where I'm just like, eh, I'm like, oh, no,

655
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:27,079
it was the most important see in the movie. I'm like,

656
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:29,960
I don't know. I mean, I can tell you, like

657
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:33,119
every scene in Goodfellas or The Godfather or The Godfather

658
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,360
Part two, and you know, a bunch of other movies,

659
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,039
a movie like h you know one of my favorite movies,

660
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,679
HBO movie called Citizen X. I just reviewed that for

661
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:48,480
Last Things Film Festival. Those movies I can tell you

662
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:51,920
like every scene and like do dialogue from. But if

663
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,480
it's really not a movie where I'm not like eager

664
00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:58,639
to watch it again after it after it ends, not

665
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,559
really gonna remember a lot of it. That seven eight

666
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,079
and nine just didn't do that for me.

667
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even The last one I saw Begraudingly.

668
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,119
I was up in Seattle Christmas time whatever, nineteen, right

669
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,400
before COVID and my sister wanted to go see it,

670
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,320
and I saw it, and it's one of those movies

671
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,880
I couldn't tell anything about it. I don't remember. I

672
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:25,599
don't remember anything. But you know mob movies, Good Fellows, Godfather.

673
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,519
Speaker 2: Growing up in New York, if there was a movie

674
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:32,519
set in New York. Usually it was something that I

675
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:35,840
could really grab onto. There's a there's a mob movie

676
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:39,119
with Mickey Rourke and Eric Roberts called The popa Gretitch Village.

677
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: I never saw it.

678
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: It is one of the greatest, I mean it, I

679
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,199
can still watch that movie. And it's just about two

680
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,480
losers who decide they're gonna pull off a you know,

681
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:54,480
they're gonna get some old old guy to help them

682
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:58,599
rob a safe, and you know, it turns out there

683
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:01,400
robing the safe of the mob, the local mob boss,

684
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,039
and then it's just what happens in their life and

685
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,559
how they're trying to handle everything from there on out

686
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:10,679
and deal with the fact that they know that the

687
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,519
mob boss is going to figure out who did it

688
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:16,000
and everything, and it's just a It's one of those

689
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,639
movies at very low budget, but good dialogue, good characters.

690
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,519
I mean, Mickey Rourke is a Mickey Rourke and Eric

691
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:27,199
Roberts are great actors. Bert Young plays the mob boss

692
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:31,400
from you know, from Rocky. He plays what's his name

693
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,199
in Rocky.

694
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: Pauli Paulie Paullie.

695
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just just good stuff, good stuff, you know,

696
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,599
and good fellas. I've seen twenty times. I've seen The

697
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:45,039
Godfather and Godfather too, probably fifteen twenty times. A Piece

698
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:46,840
is just one of those things I can put on

699
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,239
and I know exactly what they're going to say and

700
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,199
exactly what's going to happen, but still it keeps me

701
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,519
intrigued and just watching it and how beautiful it is

702
00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:56,719
and how yeah, you.

703
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,159
Speaker 1: Don't mention the thiry one in there.

704
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: I don't hate it as much as most people do,

705
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:04,320
but you know, you just have to pretty much look

706
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,800
at it as a standalone movie. I'll tell you. I've

707
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,119
read what the original version of it was going to be,

708
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:12,559
and it was a thousand times worse than what it

709
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,519
turned out to be. So thank god that Coppola got

710
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,960
you know, didn't go with what it was originally supposed

711
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,119
to be.

712
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,119
Speaker 1: I read something about the third one. I don't know

713
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:23,679
if this is true or not, but that the original

714
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,840
idea was that the corporate America was going to take

715
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,079
over the Mob, and Deval, if he'd have been in it,

716
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,320
would have become the Godfather by the end because he

717
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,000
was the attorney. He was the voice of reason and

718
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,360
if that, if that would have I don't know. I

719
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,320
thought that that could have been a cool idea because

720
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,239
like in Vegas, Corporate America pushed the mob out and

721
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:43,920
they are the mob.

722
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 2: Now yeah, no, that would have been interesting. Deval wasn't.

723
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:49,760
Deval wasn't in it.

724
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: No, but if they would have had it, because because they.

725
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: They loball them. Oh okay, yeah, I mean Andy Garcia.

726
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,159
Andy Garcia is not a bad actor. It was just

727
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,559
wasn't a good role for him.

728
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: So and he's hooking up with cousin. He's soaking up

729
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,360
with his cousin, which.

730
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: Well, and also they they force Sophia Coppola on you,

731
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,000
who apparently turns out to be a really decent director

732
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:17,679
of movies. But I mean she's not the terrible actress

733
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,800
in the movie. So you just have this nepotism there

734
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,960
where unlike where the first movies were, they really really

735
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,960
went to, Like the First Godfather, there are there's a

736
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:34,719
great they're great outtakes I have, like the whole full

737
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:40,000
set on Blu Ray and of watching Robert de Niro

738
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,280
try to go for the role of Sonny, but he's

739
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,039
so greasy. Where Sonny looks, you know, looks a little

740
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:51,400
more business like and everything and very jewy but because

741
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:55,800
James gone. But I mean they had de Niro looked

742
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,800
greasy and everything, and he's doing the whole he does

743
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,400
the whole scene about you know, this is where you

744
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,159
shoot him from a mile away. You got to get

745
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,880
up on there. Yeah, you got to get up on

746
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,280
the boom, blow their brains all of your nice ivy

747
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,679
league suit. And he was so greasy and looked too

748
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,639
much like a gumba. And I guess that's where they

749
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,679
held him out and let him play a veto in

750
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,519
the second one.

751
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: Did you ever see him? Have you seen the sequential

752
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,360
order ones? Is that what you have?

753
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:23,599
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I've seen the sequential order one. It's I like,

754
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:27,559
I like watching it the way I watched one into two.

755
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: You know, my dad had bought the vhs, you know

756
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,280
again in the nineties, he bought the vhs where they

757
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,159
were in sequential just the first two. And what I

758
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:39,440
thought was cool about it was, you know, you had

759
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,280
all the de Niro stuff first, but then they had

760
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,960
all those scenes that were not in like the original theatrical,

761
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:47,719
you know, where he goes kills a couple more people

762
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,000
when he's in Italy, they blow up the guy that

763
00:39:51,159 --> 00:39:54,760
killed Al Pacino's first wife in Italy. He's got the pizzeria.

764
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,679
You can find it all on YouTube. But they blow

765
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,599
up the pizzaio, you know, blow up his car right

766
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:00,599
in front of his pizzeria.

767
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't seen the sequential one since the nineties

768
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,719
when it came out. I don't remember all those all

769
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,840
those extra scenes, but the you know, like they got.

770
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,000
I think two is better than one actually, just if

771
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,400
you try to take it as a standalone movie too,

772
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:22,719
just there's more of I guess there's more intrigue because

773
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,840
you know, you're learning what the family is and how

774
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,519
the family operates in the first one, and then two

775
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:31,360
you get to see just how powerful they become, you know,

776
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,039
senate hearings and everything like that. And then hymen Roth,

777
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:41,360
the hymen Roth character, the Mari Lansky character is when

778
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,119
you realize that he's and I swear cople of to

779
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:47,280
this on purpose, when you find out he's pulling all

780
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,800
the strings, that he's really in charge of pretty much everything.

781
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:52,679
And then you go back when you look in mob history,

782
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:58,159
you're like, well, that's that's pretty accurate for most of

783
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,760
mob history. Yeah.

784
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:05,039
Speaker 1: Well, and even there's so many great, like classic scenes

785
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:06,800
in that movie in both of them. But I love

786
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,960
when he brings Devall in and but she was talking

787
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,079
about taking him out hide and wroth out, and he said,

788
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:14,599
you know, I don't care, you know what, what is it?

789
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:16,559
I don't I don't feel like I need to wipe

790
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:19,320
out everyone, just my enemies. And he's like, you know,

791
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,639
if you're not gonna come along with me, you could

792
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:22,679
take your wife and your mistress and Lalla Las Vegas.

793
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,760
And he goes, Michael, why do you hurt me? I've

794
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,559
always I've always been loyal to you.

795
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and then and then in the second one,

796
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:34,199
you find out, you know, you find out how just

797
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:40,440
how much he thinks of Tom when he makes him done,

798
00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:47,920
when he goes away now and he you know, he said, well,

799
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,119
Vito says. In the beginning, he says, I didn't think

800
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:52,840
you were I didn't think you were a bad conciliar area.

801
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,079
I just thought that Sonny was a bad don you know,

802
00:41:56,159 --> 00:41:59,440
so Tom was you know, Tom wasn't When when he

803
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,320
says you're not a wartime conciliary, I think that was

804
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,679
to hurt him, because I think Tom Tom was what

805
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,360
you saw in the second one that Tom knew what

806
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:13,400
knew what to do when the time came. So yeah,

807
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,559
I think that was more of an insult than anything else.

808
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: Well, and how about when he's sitting there with him

809
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,440
after the attempted assassination and he said, Fredo, he's got

810
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,599
a big heart, but he's weak and he's stupid. He

811
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:25,800
can't be cannied with anybody, he said about his own brother.

812
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you have to be able to

813
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,760
balance business and family. If your if business is if

814
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,119
family is your business, you know, So the I mean,

815
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:41,679
I guess the you know, the one thing that really

816
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:45,679
soured a lot of people to part two was, you know,

817
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,960
at the ending when he when Fredo has to go,

818
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,000
you know, and Fredo and it wasn't you know people

819
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:54,639
a lot of people ask well, why did he do that?

820
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,800
It was less about justice and more about my enemies

821
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,840
to see that I would do that.

822
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: And then he hugs him at his mother's funeral because

823
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,519
I remember it was, you know, I don't know anything

824
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:08,239
to happen to him while my mother's still alive. And

825
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,719
he looks right up at uh at al Rocco and

826
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,920
and it's like this means nothing.

827
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's rough. I mean, that's that's

828
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,760
a great thing about those movies, is you can you're

829
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:26,039
really getting caught up into like the intrigue of what

830
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:30,960
becomes a political family, you know, a family with more

831
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:34,760
power than a lot of uh, you know when when

832
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:39,079
when Veto was alive, they probably had as much as

833
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:43,440
much power as because it's because it's before the war,

834
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,039
it's pre war consensus, they had a lot of power.

835
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,480
And then after the war, basically the government becomes much

836
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:58,639
more powerful and takes on much more. It basically starts

837
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:01,800
to crack down on anyone who could absolutely control their

838
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,400
power or go into business with them. And that's what

839
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:09,800
you know, Senator what was a Senator Leary? Is that

840
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,400
the one the one from from part two?

841
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, where Paccino says to him, he says, uh, you

842
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,840
can have my answer now if you like. Even the fee,

843
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,519
which I appreciate if you put up personally, and how

844
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:22,360
they set them up at the brothel, which.

845
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:27,199
Speaker 2: Was yeah, insane. Yeah, I mean, another another thing where

846
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,840
you're just like, did they really do that? Yeah? So

847
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,360
you're that's I guess that's one of the great things

848
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,719
I love about those movies is just that there's so

849
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,039
much power you can really see how power works and

850
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:49,000
how power is top down, where there's one or two people.

851
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,760
One person is making the decision, maybe two and they

852
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,760
have their closest people to them, and that's just the

853
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:03,119
way power works. And ye people don't want to apply

854
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,400
that to real life, where that's pretty much the way.

855
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,320
I mean, you know, it's like the elite theorists say,

856
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,800
ten people can organize much better than three hundred and

857
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,079
fifty million people can. Three hundred fifty million people can't organize.

858
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,679
Ten people can, and if those ten people know how

859
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:24,440
to organize, they can control three hundred and fifty million people.

860
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: Also, you know with that movie as well, how they

861
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,159
couldn't let left any stone unturned and they had to.

862
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,719
Robert Deval goes to the prison or not the prison,

863
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,880
the military base to talk uh Frank Pantangela and into

864
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,800
killing himself, which you know that was supposed to be

865
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,280
played by Clemenza, right, did you know that whole story

866
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:44,639
behind that?

867
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that.

868
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, so because it makes sense. But that actor, whatever

869
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,440
his name was, Clemenza, from the first one, he was

870
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:54,480
the high I believe he was the highest paid, maybe

871
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,840
even more than Marlon Brando. In the first one, and

872
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,360
they wanted to bring him back for the second one,

873
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,440
but his girlfriend or his wife said, he has to

874
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:03,400
be in control of all his dialogue. Well, the movie did.

875
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,320
The first one did so well that they didn't need

876
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,119
to pay him, so they just scratched it and brought

877
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:14,119
in that other guy. But Duvall going there to talk

878
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:17,880
him into suicide the way Adolf Hitler did. I mean,

879
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,880
that was that was that was powerful stuff.

880
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 2: Well, and it's very interesting too because they even mentioned

881
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,440
the Roman legions, how that if they if they made

882
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,960
an attempt on the if they made an attempt on

883
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,840
the can on the on Caesar or whoever was in charge,

884
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,719
they had to take their own life. And that's also

885
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:40,599
you know, not for a gigantic tangent the people. Why

886
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:43,079
did Adolf Hitler take his own life, because that's what

887
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:47,000
that's what Prussian leaders did when they lost. When they lost,

888
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:48,719
they took their own lives. He just fought. He was

889
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,159
following the Prussian tradition. Everybody's like, oh, that's no, that's

890
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,239
that's what they did. He was a Prussian. Prussia didn't

891
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,639
end till nineteen forty five.

892
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: And then the very end of that film you know,

893
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:05,480
they do the flashback which they had shot that I

894
00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:07,280
think intent it was a cut scene from the first

895
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,360
god from the first one. But I love it because

896
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,599
you see that he's sitting at the table by himself,

897
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:14,880
and then he's sitting in that park by himself. He

898
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,400
couldn't keep his family together the way Marlon, Marlon Brando

899
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,239
could keep it, keep it together, but he couldn't.

900
00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:29,159
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, yeah yeah. And they actually in part

901
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:33,039
three they do that too. They it ends with him

902
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:37,559
completely alone and his family completely apart, and then he faught.

903
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:39,679
I think he's in a wheel he's in like a wheelchair,

904
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,960
and he falls out of the wheelchair, and you know

905
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:43,639
that he's dead, that he's died.

906
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about good fellows. But one

907
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,000
thing I always wondered about Godfather because Talia Shire. I mean,

908
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,360
if you think about her, who's Francis Ford Coppola's sister.

909
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,360
I mean, some of the greatest two of my all

910
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,039
time favorite movies. She was in Rocky, I mean most

911
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:00,440
of the Rocky most of the Rocky movies and got Father.

912
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,239
I wonder if Salon casts her knowing that maybe he

913
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,880
could get the financing if he had Francis Ford Coppola's

914
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,480
sister in the first film, because he had a hard

915
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:09,280
time selling it.

916
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean well, from what I understand, even

917
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,760
though he even though she was cast in it, he

918
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,840
never got financing. He had to go. He had to

919
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,199
do it all himself. And that's why he became so rich.

920
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,320
It is because he did it all himself. It's like

921
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,480
Mel Gibson. I mean, Mel Gibson became a billionaire because

922
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:31,119
he put out passion himself. I talk about, fuck you money,

923
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,920
you put out passion. I mean that thing. I knew

924
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,480
people who were going to I've never seen the movie.

925
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how it ends.

926
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure now. And it's not because and it's

927
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,719
not because, I mean, obviously I'm a crushing but the

928
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,880
I don't. I don't want to see that. I've read,

929
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,920
I can read it. I don't want to see it.

930
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: You know how this movie ends without having to see it?

931
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't need to see it.

932
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:06,440
The the thrashing, but the yeah, I mean, he made

933
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:08,800
he made Rocky with his own money. He was offered

934
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,559
two hundred thousand for the script, he said. He said

935
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:13,599
at one time he was so broken. He was offered

936
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:15,400
like one hundred thousand for the script, and he's like,

937
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,159
this will solve all of my problems. But no, no,

938
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,639
I believe way too much in the Andario thing. So

939
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,360
he is smart. But yeah, it was. But Talia Shyer

940
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,599
does a really good job and as an actress, she

941
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,039
plays one role because I mean both of those roles

942
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:35,159
were very were very similar. Once she got you know,

943
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:37,440
once she broke out of her shells, she was just

944
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:43,760
basically what's her name? Uh, what, what's what's her what's Collin?

945
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:44,920
What's her name is? Corleone?

946
00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: Oh?

947
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: Connie? Connie? Yeah, yeah, and then once she broke out

948
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,119
of the shell she was just basically Connie. So but.

949
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: She she was also in uh I think she financed

950
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,519
or produced it. It was a movie called rad It

951
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:01,760
was a bm X movie, and she played the mother.

952
00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:03,639
I think that's the only other thing I ever saw

953
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:05,360
her in outside of Rocky or Godfather.

954
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,119
Speaker 2: Oh that's funny.

955
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like an eighties BMX. Yeah, stupid movie,

956
00:50:10,679 --> 00:50:14,320
but yeah, I uh, Stallone was one of those people

957
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,800
man like he's one of my favorite actors, and like

958
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,159
Rocky's one of my all time you know, Tom and

959
00:50:20,159 --> 00:50:23,039
I were talking about that Nighthawks and Cobra and Cliffhanger

960
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:23,719
and Ox.

961
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: Is amazing because night Awks also has rotger Hower. Awesome, Yeah, amazing.

962
00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:31,599
Speaker 1: I feel like I heard stallon standing interview he wishes

963
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:33,440
he would have done a sequel to Nighthawks because him

964
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,079
and Billy Dee Williams were so they had such good flow.

965
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. They Yeah, there was a there was a chemistry

966
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:47,039
there that was actually pretty good. Yeah. The yeah, no,

967
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,719
I mean Stallone did some did some other some other stuff.

968
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,519
I mean, the Rocky movies were good, the Rambo movies

969
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:59,239
were what they were, but there were there were other things.

970
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:05,639
Lock Up was was pretty decent. Was it Copland that

971
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,760
was good? Yeah? Yeah, it wasn't a bad That wasn't

972
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,800
a horrible movie it was. It wasn't as bad as

973
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,920
like the critics made it out to be. When I

974
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,239
it was one of those movies, I'm like, all right,

975
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,840
the critics are penning it. It's probably good. Oh, I

976
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,320
show like, this isn't horrible? What did you like better?

977
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: Still? Longer Schwarzenegger growing.

978
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: Up, probably Stallone just because he was you know, he

979
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,119
was more of like a New York or you know,

980
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,960
more of an East Coast guy. Everything in Schwarzenegger just

981
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:38,320
you know, mumble you know, mumble mouth and everything. Commando

982
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:40,599
was just great. I mean, it's just one of those.

983
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,559
I mean, it's maybe one of the most classic action

984
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,239
movies of all time. It's so ridiculous. I mean it

985
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,760
was the first movie that growing up in New York,

986
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,000
I wasn't around guns a lot, but it was one

987
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,880
of the first movies where I was like, how is that?

988
00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:57,840
How is that rifle just like firing for like a

989
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,280
minute straight. Don't they have to do magazine changes or

990
00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:05,119
It's like that's when I realized that that's when I

991
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:10,199
couldn't watch a movie anymore unless without watching when when

992
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,119
the guns went into god mode, which meant like, you know,

993
00:52:13,159 --> 00:52:15,000
they had all of a sudden they had a thousand

994
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:18,760
rounds to shoot. It's like, out of this work.

995
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,119
Speaker 1: I love I love command I mean, I love Cone

996
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:22,119
in the Barbarian though.

997
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,199
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, if dudes can play all

998
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,320
they want, if they've ever watched Kindergarten Cop, they've last

999
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,000
they've laughed their ass off. That's an that's a funny movie.

1000
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,519
Speaker 1: That's a great movie. Twins was good too.

1001
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:41,159
Speaker 2: It was really funny. Which one twins, So that's ridiculous.

1002
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,079
I mean, Schwartz schwartzenigger, It's true lies. Loved it. True

1003
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:49,400
Lives is a great movie. Loved it. How about Predator,

1004
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:53,880
I mean Harrier jump Jet? I mean, what what movie

1005
00:52:54,199 --> 00:52:58,079
did better Showcase to Harrier jump Jet better Predator? Oh yeah,

1006
00:52:58,119 --> 00:53:01,960
I mean obviously the I mean he was the best

1007
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,159
in it. Some of the side characters were really cringe

1008
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,400
I'm sorry, they were cringey as hell.

1009
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:09,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love how they were. They went in to

1010
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,760
take out the whatever the unit and Jesse Ventura's got

1011
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,800
the mini gun. All these muscle heads, right, They're all

1012
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,559
geared up and going in. They just kill everybody.

1013
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous.

1014
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:27,599
Speaker 1: But you know what, the effects still hold up. The

1015
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:29,360
Predator effects still still hold up.

1016
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I actually liked Predators to Predators

1017
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:36,199
the one they came out like ten years ago. That

1018
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,840
one was pretty That was pretty good. When they all

1019
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,559
got when they all got dropped on on another planet.

1020
00:53:42,039 --> 00:53:44,239
They really saw on the planet. I remember that one.

1021
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:47,679
That one had like what's his name in it? I

1022
00:53:47,679 --> 00:53:52,960
can't remember, but yeah, that was it. That one wasn't bad.

1023
00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:57,239
A VP Alien versus Predators. That was good, great movie.

1024
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,039
That's one of my favorite. I've seen that movie like

1025
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:02,519
five ten, five ten times. I mean it's there's so much.

1026
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,519
There's so much in that one too, you know. So,

1027
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:09,199
I mean, and the second one wasn't that bad. It's okay,

1028
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:14,360
it was okay. I just I thought the Predator would

1029
00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:16,679
I thought he'd fair better against the aliens. But the

1030
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,239
Aliens really did kick the ship out of them in

1031
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,679
the first one. If ever, if like you're you're you

1032
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,920
can spit acid or like you know, your blood is acid,

1033
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,400
You're gonna Predator is gonna have.

1034
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:33,639
Speaker 1: A problem, all right. So so Scorsese, man, what what

1035
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,239
is Your Good Fellows? Is my favorite Scorsese movie. Now,

1036
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,000
in fairness, I've never seen Raging Bull.

1037
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: I've seen I've seen Raging Ball multiple times, and I

1038
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,760
hear it's okay. It's a great movie. I mean, he's

1039
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,880
he's a piece of he was a piece of ship,

1040
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,119
you know. And that's the hardest part of the whole thing,

1041
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,119
is just dealing because he's just such a terrible person.

1042
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:58,400
But it shot really well, a good dialogue and black

1043
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,360
and white, you know, black and white helped the lot.

1044
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,159
Speaker 1: I think So what's your favorite Scorsese.

1045
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Goodfellows is one of them, is you know,

1046
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:11,360
depending on the day, either Godfather, I'll tell you Godfather.

1047
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,760
Goodfellows is my favorite movie. Good fellow I remember back

1048
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,719
in the day when it was on like HBO, and

1049
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,320
it would come on at like eleven o'clock at night

1050
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,679
and I had to be to work. I had, I

1051
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,440
knew I had to wake up at like five o'clock

1052
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,400
in the morning to go to work, and I would

1053
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,280
hear that first line ever since I was a kid,

1054
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,920
all I want to be again, And I was like,

1055
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,639
all right, shit, I'm gonna be here till thirty three

1056
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:37,760
o'clock in the morning. Damn it. All right, Well, I

1057
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:43,519
mean everything about that movie, it did a really good

1058
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,880
It did a good job of showing from what I understand,

1059
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,280
I mean, I read the book too. I read the

1060
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,199
book Wise Guy by what was his named, Nicholas Peleggi Peleggi.

1061
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,000
From what I understand, it did a really good job

1062
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,400
of showing just how those guys would go out and

1063
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,840
make money and then how they'd have to kick back,

1064
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,280
and that they really did try their best to not

1065
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,480
get innocent people hurt or involved. It was just the

1066
00:56:10,519 --> 00:56:14,280
people that they needed to in order to, you know,

1067
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:23,840
in order to get business done. But the soundtrack, the

1068
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,760
the casting was fantastic too. I mean I don't know that.

1069
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,639
I mean, Hasraelio to ever done another role that he

1070
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:30,440
was that good in.

1071
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,079
Speaker 1: Not like, no, not to that level. I liked him

1072
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:38,320
in Blow, but he was always supporting in that. Yeah,

1073
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,239
there's so many I mean, you have Good Fellas, man,

1074
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,239
there's so many. The whole movie is just one big

1075
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,639
classic moment. Like I liked Casino, and Casino had some

1076
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,840
good moments in it, but the cohesiveness of Good Fellas

1077
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,400
was just well.

1078
00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:55,039
Speaker 2: Casino also was. There were so many parts in that

1079
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:58,159
work that were just so dehumanizing that were really depressing.

1080
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,559
But yeah, I mean Goodfellas you had, first of all,

1081
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:07,360
the cast. Second of all, they cast real mobsters in it.

1082
00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:11,039
And actually Good Godfather there was actually real mob There

1083
00:57:11,039 --> 00:57:13,719
were actually real mobsters in that too. You actually see

1084
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,440
pictures of the cast going and visiting certain guys and

1085
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,039
took pictures with them everything as just so they could

1086
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:23,719
get the the idea of how to act. But yeah,

1087
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,760
I mean when you look at when you look at Goodfellas,

1088
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:35,599
the casting the music, the story, and realizing that a

1089
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:39,079
lot of that story is true. Now in the book

1090
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:42,719
they concentrate a whole lot more on something that is

1091
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,119
just told in Passing. They talk about the point shaving

1092
00:57:47,159 --> 00:57:52,079
scandal at Boston College. The book is mostly is majority

1093
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:56,440
about that, and they only they talk about it Morty.

1094
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,079
Morty mentions it right before they put the ice pick

1095
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:01,199
in the back of his in the back of his head.

1096
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,639
But the for a lot of the intrigues like the

1097
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,039
luftansa heist and everything, I mean, those those things happened.

1098
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:13,320
Those things were real, and they pulled those off without

1099
00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:17,440
like firing a shot. So yeah, there's a lot in there.

1100
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,760
There's also a lot of New York history, a lot

1101
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,559
of neighborhood history. You see how a lot of neighborhoods work,

1102
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:28,760
but you really do see how the mob. The mob worked.

1103
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:38,039
There's like the Pauly character Servino. He his in the book.

1104
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:42,599
He talks about how when credit cards came out, they

1105
00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:45,000
were the first ones to figure out how to counterfeit

1106
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,440
credit cards, and they would go out, they would they

1107
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,800
would call them, I forget what they call them. They

1108
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,639
call them like chick lits or something like that. They

1109
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:57,719
would go out and like have run up three hundred

1110
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:03,519
dollars bills in restaurants in the sixties, in the late sixties,

1111
00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:05,159
you know where it's like, you know, how do you

1112
00:59:05,239 --> 00:59:06,719
run up at three hundred dollars bill in the late

1113
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:09,719
sixties in a restaurant? And I remember him saying him

1114
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,480
being quoted in the book is saying the meal always

1115
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:20,239
tasted the best. Well, we didn't pay for so yeah.

1116
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,360
I really after I saw the movie, I had to

1117
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,800
go get the book and read the book. I think

1118
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,639
I read the book like in one day or something

1119
00:59:25,679 --> 00:59:29,400
like that, and it was just, uh, you know, the

1120
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,079
thing about The Godfather is when you look at that

1121
00:59:32,199 --> 00:59:36,320
it's so insular, it's so nepotistic that you know that

1122
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,519
you can never be a part of that world. But

1123
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:40,920
you but Goodfellas let you know that you didn't have

1124
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,719
to be Italian to be in the mob. You just

1125
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,000
had to be you know, so it could be like anyone.

1126
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,719
It actually opened the door where people could be like,

1127
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,440
you know, I could actually be I could actually be

1128
00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:52,719
associated with these guys, even though I'd never be a

1129
00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:53,199
made guy.

1130
00:59:54,519 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: I like when Raleiota's you know, a young character comes

1131
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,400
home and his father busts him, and he's he wasn't

1132
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,199
going to school and he's beating him, and and the

1133
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,719
best wash you know, him narrating the whole movie, and

1134
01:00:03,719 --> 01:00:05,480
he goes away. I look at it. Everybody takes a

1135
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:06,480
beating once in a while.

1136
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: I mean, so true, so true. How are you? How

1137
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,320
are you gonna get to get through life and be

1138
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,360
successful without taking a beat? And every once in a

1139
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,039
while it's just it just happens.

1140
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,119
Speaker 1: Where does the Irish stand up for you on all

1141
01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:21,920
that stuff?

1142
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: I refuse to watch it.

1143
01:00:24,239 --> 01:00:25,079
Speaker 1: Oh you even't seen it?

1144
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:27,039
Speaker 2: I don't want to be disappointed. Yeah, I don't want

1145
01:00:27,039 --> 01:00:30,760
to be disappointed. I've heard too many people I know

1146
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,360
who I respect that we agree on The Godfather and

1147
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,599
like I'm good fellas, and they're like, don't watch it.

1148
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, if I if I can share with you

1149
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,880
what I think. First of I want to watch it

1150
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,760
once in the theater. I have a hard time getting

1151
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,320
through things that long if I don't see it in

1152
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,280
the theater because I just fall asleep or I'm looking

1153
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,519
at my phone. And when you're in a dark movie theater,

1154
01:00:50,599 --> 01:00:53,440
you just you're not doing that stuff. I'll tell you man,

1155
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,199
I think it's it's worth the watch, and I liked

1156
01:00:56,239 --> 01:00:58,320
it better than Casino. I didn't like it as good

1157
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,000
as Good Fellas, but I didn't have expectations of that

1158
01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:03,679
because Goodfellas is like Dark Knight, it's a perfect movie.

1159
01:01:04,159 --> 01:01:07,559
It just comes along every every so often. But what

1160
01:01:07,639 --> 01:01:09,679
I thought was what I thought was good about it

1161
01:01:09,719 --> 01:01:12,599
was Peshi's character. For the first time he was the

1162
01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:16,079
mob boss, but he wasn't violent. He was you know,

1163
01:01:16,119 --> 01:01:18,320
he did all of his actions very calmly. You didn't

1164
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,320
see him yell, you didn't see And when Paccino the

1165
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,360
first time you hear his voice, I remember saying to

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my friend, I go, man, we're never going to see

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all these guys on screen again, like, never gonna happen.

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So to me, it's it's I think it's worthwhile. You

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should watch it, in my opinion. And then they spend

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a lot of time in the post, you know, after

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the fallout from Haffa's death, and there was a good

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forty five minutes of it and most I've ever seen

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01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:48,400
it in a Scorsese film, because it doesn't end well

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for these guys. It never does, and life is lonely

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and life as your parent kids don't want anything to

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do with you, And I mean it just you know,

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that's that's Unfortunately, it's not a sexy world sexy life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean halfa that's another movie I haven't watched.

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My dad's side of the family is a teamster's family,

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and yeah, it's I mean, I know a lot. I

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know a lot, they sed all a lot of stuff.

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Let's put it that way. I'm not going to judge

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01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,719
use a judgment word just to get it so no

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one gets mad at me. But yeah, I've never seen

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01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:35,599
Hafa either. What did you think of The Departed?

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Speaker 1: I liked it. One thing about Scorsese movies they go

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on sometimes longer than they need to, and that's what

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they Departed was. And I also feel like they were

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paying homage to Scorsese because he was he needed a

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best director. He deserved it for just Good Fellows alone,

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and I forgot what I think the English patients went

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won it that year, so they were paying respect to

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him by giving that. But but I liked it. I

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mean I thought it was good.

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Speaker 2: I like Jack Nicholson, I like Dicapriol. Yeah, I mean

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the the Martin Sheen character was. I mean, the way

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he lost, the way he lose you know, dies is

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just insane. The what about the I mean, the character

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I love the most whenever he was on the screen

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was the Mark Wahlberg.

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Speaker 1: He was great, Yeah, he's he's getting into fights with

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with Man Damon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just I mean, absolutely insane fights. And then, of course,

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did you did you notice whenever anyone got shot in

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that movie was a head shot?

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Speaker 1: I guess I never realized that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, everything was a head shot, and they

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were brutal headshots. Even the last one, the one that

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Wahlberg's character delivers, I mean, that is just brutal. Yeah,

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that movie wasn't bad, but it was. It was overly long,

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and there was some stuff there was probably could have

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cut twenty minutes, twenty five minutes out of that movie.

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But one movie I wrote here and I'm gonna have

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to go in a couple of minutes, and this is

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you know, I just when you were talking about Pacino

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and denierro one of my all time favorite movies. Another

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01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:21,599
movie I've seen twenty times is Heat Love It. I mean,

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it's a heist movie. I remember, you know, people make

1219
01:04:27,239 --> 01:04:31,400
fun of the comedy you know the comedian Dame Cook.

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You remember him. Yeah, Yeah, he had this joke about how,

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like the reason people love Height the people the reason

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people like Heat is because every dude dreams of being

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a part of a heist. And it's true, right, I mean,

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you've thought about it, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I was, Well, I was more into you know, Boys

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01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,599
in the Hood, man, We've everybody wanted to be ice

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Cube from Boys in the Hood if you remember that.

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Speaker 2: But it's like I always thought, well, then Dame Cook's

1229
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,079
that Dave Cook finished his choke as every dude thinks

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about about being a part of a heist and owning

1231
01:05:13,519 --> 01:05:16,719
a monkey, which makes no sense, but it's I've actually

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thought about owning a monkey at times too, so I

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understood it. But Heat is just phenomenal. The dialogue at

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01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:26,639
the diner, I mean some of the some of the

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best dialogue. I mean the dialogue isn't even that great.

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It's just how Michael Mann, how his music and how

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how his his scores just really intensify a moment. And

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I thought that was Another great moment is at the

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01:05:45,239 --> 01:05:49,159
moment at the ending where he sees her and he

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01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:52,800
realizes he has to leave, and he's like you know,

1241
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,760
and then he remembers to John Voyd's character, who's like,

1242
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you know, always be always be ready to go and

1243
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:04,280
moment's notice and leave anyone behind. There's just I can

1244
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,519
talk about heat forever. I mean, there's so much to

1245
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:09,239
that movie. The Wayne Grow I mean, Thomas and I

1246
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,840
have talked about this so many times. How the Wayne

1247
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grow character. How you understand the Night of Long Knives

1248
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because you don't leave people around who are you know,

1249
01:06:21,079 --> 01:06:23,320
are who are who will damage things? You know they'll

1250
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:24,800
come back to bite you in the ass.

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01:06:25,639 --> 01:06:28,039
Speaker 1: I like the very very end whin to Nero's shot.

1252
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He's and at that point he's he's done, and he said,

1253
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,559
I told you I'm never going back, and Pachino, you know,

1254
01:06:32,599 --> 01:06:34,639
holds his hand and you see the camaraderie so he

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01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:36,880
doesn't have to die alone. And then the music with

1256
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It's Moby that they play at the very end of that.

1257
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It's such a great I mean, put Moby at the

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very end. It was like, that was awesome.

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Speaker 2: There was a I mean, there's an alternate ending where

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he gets away, but there is doesn't that doesn't work. Yeah,

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you know, there's an alternate ending where he gets away

1262
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but it just doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: I gotta look that up on YouTube. I know you

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probably gotta go any you want to do. As we're

1265
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,519
going to twenty five, man, what do you what are

1266
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:02,960
you thinking?

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking everything is going to be a fight. But

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I think it's really interesting that so much of like

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politics in the world is done on Twitter now, where

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somebody can float something, somebody in power can float something,

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and people immediately dogpile on it, and then it's like,

1272
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you know, then Elon gets so beaten down that he's like, Okay,

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01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,599
let's do a poll, and you know, and the people

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have spoken kind of thing, especially over the last couple

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of days where they're threatening this jeet you know, this

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01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:49,079
paget invasion of h he B workers and everything. I'm

1277
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just looking forward to that, to seeing how that plays out,

1278
01:07:52,239 --> 01:07:55,880
how all that plays out. I'm looking forward to seeing

1279
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,760
how people are going to because they're not going to

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01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,760
get the things that they want that they thought they

1281
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,239
could get under Trump, that they're going to immediately turn

1282
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,320
on him and be like, oh, we should have voted,

1283
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,320
we should have you know, told you would have been

1284
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,960
better with Kamala because we'd be fighting. I'd be like yeah,

1285
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,480
so you don't want Indians in the country, so vote

1286
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:19,800
for an Indian. Okay, that's good. I just I look

1287
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,239
forward to it because when it comes down to it,

1288
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,920
people need to remember this, it's not January twenty first,

1289
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,359
and we're not going to know whether any of this

1290
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:33,119
stuff is done what's going to be done until January

1291
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:37,079
twenty first. Another thing that I find very interesting is

1292
01:08:37,079 --> 01:08:43,039
is that everybody, everybody is talking like Trump's already president.

1293
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,079
Everybody assumes he's already president. I actually saw one like

1294
01:08:47,159 --> 01:08:49,640
Democrat go well why you know, someone was saying something.

1295
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,560
Someone's like, well, why doesn't Trump do something about that?

1296
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:56,079
I'm like, he's not fucking president, dummy, Like everyone assumes

1297
01:08:56,079 --> 01:08:59,960
he's already president. Why because Joe Biden is probably dead somewhere,

1298
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:05,960
you know, and Kamala Harris is hiding. I mean, it's

1299
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:10,279
it's weird times. And I think anybody who thinks right

1300
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:14,760
now that they know what's going to happen is just

1301
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,520
they're gonna They're gonna they're gonna be as wrong as

1302
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,960
I as as I will be about you know, predictions

1303
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,319
I've made. I think we're all gonna be wrong.

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01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: One thing I'll add is you know, whatever is going

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01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,600
to happen, it provides a lot of opportunities for what

1306
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,119
I'm doing from what you're doing. I wish none of

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01:09:33,119 --> 01:09:35,000
it was happening and we were just a normal world

1308
01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:37,560
where you know, all this fuckery wasn't occurring, but it

1309
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,079
is what it is, and for for this kind of stuff,

1310
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:43,319
there's just gonna be a lot of conversations to be had.

1311
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:45,800
There's gonna be a lot of analysis, a lot of

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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,119
fun with guessing where things may or may not go.

1313
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,640
And you know, I'm just you said it. I think

1314
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,000
last time we spoke like, I'm just you're just gearing

1315
01:09:53,079 --> 01:09:55,720
up for what's what's going to be thrown at us.

1316
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,199
And you know, I'm I'm glad that you come on

1317
01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:00,680
here regularly and uh, you know we can talk about

1318
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,119
things and I appreciate you doing this today. Where can

1319
01:10:03,159 --> 01:10:03,680
people find you?

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01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: Well, for right now, I don't have a hockey podcast,

1321
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,079
which is what I would do if the world was

1322
01:10:11,359 --> 01:10:14,840
what was the place that I'd wanted to be Peakingana

1323
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:20,239
show all podcaschers, Pete substack dot com and the Old

1324
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:24,479
Glory Club. We stream every Thursday night at eight o'clock

1325
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,439
Eastern on our YouTube channel and Michael has been a

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01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:29,119
guest recently.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thank you for letting me come on.

1328
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,800
And you know I I'll put all the put all

1329
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,319
the descriptions for people so they can click on all

1330
01:10:38,319 --> 01:10:41,680
Pete's work. And happy New Year. I look forward to

1331
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:42,880
more conversations I had.

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Speaker 2: Happy to your brother. Take care my chop.

