Speaker 1: Welcome back to day zero. It is day one. I
Speaker 1: actually already forgot eighty five somewhere in there. And it's
Speaker 1: a happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day everyone. Lindsay Sharman
Speaker 1: of rogueways dot org here with Charlie Robinson of Macroaggressions
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Speaker 1: How's your Mother's Day going?
Speaker 2: My mother's dead. I've been microaggressioned.
Speaker 1: Oh Mother's Day itself shouldn't exist. Hey, have you gotten
Speaker 1: those emails that like ask you to if you want
Speaker 1: to opt out of their Mother's Day stuff because your
Speaker 1: mom's dead?
Speaker 2: No, I have not.
Speaker 1: They do that. They're like, do you want to? We
Speaker 1: want to be sensitive to your nie.
Speaker 2: We don't want to remind you of anything painful, but hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna remind you of something painful, So.
Speaker 1: In reminding it, in not reminding you, we're gonna remind you.
Speaker 1: It all makes perfect sense. Trust us.
Speaker 2: It's funny because like I have a rather morbid sense
Speaker 2: of humor over Like, at this point, I'm old, everyone's dead,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? I got a sister and
Speaker 2: two cousins, and that's you know, pretty much it. So
Speaker 2: it's just one of those things that you deal with
Speaker 2: and just after a while it doesn't hurt anymore, you.
Speaker 1: Know, It's true. Yeah, it's so. This is I'll tell
Speaker 1: you a weird story. My father died when I was young,
Speaker 1: and I was this, this is like twenty years after
Speaker 1: he died or more. I was working at a place
Speaker 1: at a school. I was in the school lunchroom and
Speaker 1: it was Father's Day or is it near Father's Day
Speaker 1: or something, and so everyone was like, oh, what do
Speaker 1: you do for Father's Day? And one of the ladies
Speaker 1: there goes, well, Lindsay's dad is dead. Are is there
Speaker 1: anything else you're hiding from us? Lindsay? And I was like,
Speaker 1: is it supposed to be funny or supposed to have
Speaker 1: broken the tension or supposed to have like I think
Speaker 1: she was trying to like warn everyone that I might
Speaker 1: be But I'm like, it's been a long time, lady,
Speaker 1: Like I'm fine, I'm totally fine. Kind of weird. She
Speaker 1: was clearly uncomfortable about it, That's what was going on.
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, you're a psycho. Actually, all you
Speaker 1: actually have to do is just be chill normal. Nobody cares.
Speaker 3: First Mother's Day for me, now, yeah, so it's not
Speaker 3: not the not the most fun day. But you know,
Speaker 3: my wife, I'm taking my wife out from Mother's Day tonight.
Speaker 4: She's a mother.
Speaker 3: So we've got a cat who's a mother, so you know,
Speaker 3: we gotta you know all that ship.
Speaker 1: Oh, do you do anything nice for your mom who
Speaker 1: is now de ceased on Mother's Day? No light, a candle, no.
Speaker 2: Un like a cling on the body is just a shell.
Speaker 1: It's true, that's true, Charlie. I know we talked about
Speaker 1: you were gonna tell your your mom to I don't know,
Speaker 1: haunt you or send you a message or something. Has
Speaker 1: anything seemed to.
Speaker 4: Can nothing.
Speaker 3: She's asleep at the wheel.
Speaker 1: Takes a little lot time, give her some time, Okay,
Speaker 1: So definitely.
Speaker 2: Oh go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I definitely said, listen, make yourself known in a
Speaker 3: way that only I will know.
Speaker 1: So we'll see like interstellar, like push a book off
Speaker 1: a shelf right in front of me.
Speaker 3: Exactly. That's about That's about the level of haunting I'm
Speaker 3: comfortable with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you can go.
Speaker 2: And then my aunt just died and I have. The
Speaker 2: two cousins I'm close with, it was their mother and
Speaker 2: their father had just died like a year and a
Speaker 2: half ago or something like that. And my parents have
Speaker 2: been dead since twenty sixteen. My parents died within like
Speaker 2: six months of each other or eight months of each
Speaker 2: other or something like that. And it's been interesting to
Speaker 2: watch two people who are very stoic like me go through,
Speaker 2: you know, the loss of parents, because like my cousin
Speaker 2: who's like very much like me, has gone off on
Speaker 2: this crystals and fucking afterlife fucking thing, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's another thing I forgot. I need to connect you
Speaker 2: to at some point.
Speaker 4: So yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Uh no, I told her all about you, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I want to talk to her. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll see what I can do. But but yeah, So
Speaker 2: it's been funny watching the true not funny, funny, but
Speaker 2: you know, it's been interesting watching the transition of people
Speaker 2: who are very stoic, you know, looking now for answers beyond.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, death, we'll do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Death brings everything right up close and personal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's all kinds of different types of death,
Speaker 3: you know. There's the sudden. You're so young. I didn't
Speaker 3: we didn't expect it. There's the you know, this lady's
Speaker 3: been dying for the last eight years, finally, did you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? There's like there's different ways, and
Speaker 3: sometimes it could be like exhaustion, like hurry up and
Speaker 3: die already for real, and then you start to feel
Speaker 3: bad about that, you know, but again, like you don't
Speaker 3: want someone to be suffering, and so I don't know,
Speaker 3: there's no good way to go.
Speaker 1: No, Well, yeah, when my grandma died, I was like,
Speaker 1: I was kind of like that. I was just like
Speaker 1: happy for her that she was done now and she
Speaker 1: wasn't pain anymore. And I watched her, you know, gather
Speaker 1: all the people around her on her deathbed, and you know,
Speaker 1: this is one of those weird things like people tend
Speaker 1: not to die until they've said goodbye to everyone they
Speaker 1: feel like they need to. They'll like hold on until
Speaker 1: the last person flies in and shows up, and sometimes not,
Speaker 1: but a lot of times that seems to happen. So
Speaker 1: I just kind of watched her do that, and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, she was like ready and she went
Speaker 1: and and it's cool. I wasn't sad, really, I was
Speaker 1: sad because I don't get to hug her anymore. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't like the same grief as when you know,
Speaker 1: my father to me at least died quite subtly, and
Speaker 1: that was like very difficult ripping like a I was
Speaker 1: like felt like I got ripped in half. So two
Speaker 1: totally different experiences. I was eleven. I had no idea people.
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew people died, but they were all
Speaker 1: super old, right, like great grandparents, like old people. My
Speaker 1: dad wasn't old to me. And then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he was dead. And you know, my brother and
Speaker 1: sister were old enough that I think they kind of
Speaker 1: knew that might be coming, and my mom definitely knew
Speaker 1: that might be coming. But I had no idea. It
Speaker 1: was just a shock. So the whole world was in disarray, right,
Speaker 1: I was like, what else is bullshit in this life?
Speaker 4: What else?
Speaker 1: Told me? Like, you know, I don't trust any of
Speaker 1: you motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: I've done one one the quick, sudden way, and I've
Speaker 3: done one the you got three months to go where
Speaker 3: you get to say everything and then but you have
Speaker 3: to watch the show in slow motion, versus the other
Speaker 3: one where you don't get to say anything, but it's
Speaker 3: all wrapped up before you even know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's like the sometimes the funerals, like
Speaker 1: right away, people are like they're dead, let's do the
Speaker 1: funeral like Tuesday, like holy shit, and other people is
Speaker 1: like the funeral is like a month out, like months out.
Speaker 1: And I'm always like confused about how people decide when
Speaker 1: they have a funeral.
Speaker 3: You know, I think you make that I mean, I
Speaker 3: from speaking from my own experience with my dad, I
Speaker 3: think you make that decision in a sense of state
Speaker 3: of shock, where you just go, Okay, well, what are
Speaker 3: we supposed to do. It's a Thursday, so Friday camp
Speaker 3: be Saturday, Sunday probably, let's do Tuesday. Okay, done, give
Speaker 3: availability Tuesday? Great, we do Tuesday. There done, let everybody know.
Speaker 3: And I mean I think people just are on autopilot.
Speaker 3: At least that was the the sense that I got
Speaker 3: in watching that happen with my own family.
Speaker 2: So that reminds me like in my Oswald research, twin
Speaker 2: his father died, Margaritie Oswald attempted to have him picked
Speaker 2: up and buried within like two hours.
Speaker 3: WHOA, yeah, that's not normal.
Speaker 1: And she's like ciatious.
Speaker 2: She didn't want to notify. She really wasn't even going
Speaker 2: to notify the family, but she told somebody who told
Speaker 2: the Oswald family what she was doing, and they all
Speaker 2: freaked out.
Speaker 3: Did he have a bullet hole in the back of
Speaker 3: his head.
Speaker 2: No, he had a heart attack and was mowing the lawn.
Speaker 1: Heart attack. Yeah, that's that's that's a wild shit. I've
Speaker 1: heard also that funeral funerary service people like take advantage
Speaker 1: of everyone because they're basically, you got to do this
Speaker 1: and this, and then you got to do all these things.
Speaker 1: That's just what you do, like, and so all these
Speaker 1: prices are piling up, and when it comes down to it,
Speaker 1: like you don't have to do ship, they make it
Speaker 1: seem like it's like legally expected or difficult to do
Speaker 1: other things, or you have to embalm, but you don't.
Speaker 1: And there's just all kinds of shit that I mean, really,
Speaker 1: I think I've said that. I think we were talking
Speaker 1: about this last time, Like now I know you should
Speaker 1: just bury people on your property because then you don't
Speaker 1: pay property taxes ever.
Speaker 3: Again, so I make own you.
Speaker 1: Can't, but you can to your property. You can do it.
Speaker 1: You just have to like file something or do something,
Speaker 1: or put them in the right kind of container for
Speaker 1: that area, which is sometimes no container at all. You
Speaker 1: can sometimes just wrap them motherfucker limon and put them
Speaker 1: in the ground.
Speaker 3: You're done reasonable better than spending seven thousand dollars on
Speaker 3: a gold casket that you're going to look at for
Speaker 3: ninety minutes at the viewing, in an hour during the ceremony,
Speaker 3: and then it's going to go in the ground.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, even in day, if they'd be shaking you down,
Speaker 4: even in day you get the shake down.
Speaker 2: I think I want to be putting one of those
Speaker 2: above ground mortuaries. It makes you feel a little way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll like be preserved somehow. It'll be like twenty years
Speaker 2: from now, they'll have some way to like preserve you forever.
Speaker 2: And I have like a glass case and people can
Speaker 2: is it mean?
Speaker 3: It's very jewiouh.
Speaker 4: And for me the funeral thing kind of just it's
Speaker 4: went downhill since we used to do, since we stopped
Speaker 4: doing the olden ways where we would build like a
Speaker 4: shrine of wood and burn them upon it. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Put some gold coins like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, if we ain't doing nothing like that. I
Speaker 4: really don't want to go and talk to y'all today
Speaker 4: or at any point in time. I don't want to
Speaker 4: eat afterwards. I don't want to shake your hand. I
Speaker 4: kind of don't want to see you, Okay, So yeah,
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: That's a good thing. When I when I die, somebody
Speaker 2: make sure they put the gold coins on my eyes.
Speaker 4: That's it. That's what we got to do. I like it.
Speaker 1: I think for me in a boat pushed me out
Speaker 1: to see shoot the arrow, flaming arrow, burn it down there.
Speaker 4: It is you see, that's the truth.
Speaker 2: Who was the guy that took you across the river Styx?
Speaker 2: That death was a death himself.
Speaker 3: I thought the guy that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah in the boat shot shot on.
Speaker 1: God.
Speaker 2: I wish I could. I wish I could, like in
Speaker 2: my heart, genuinely believe and stuff. That'd be so cool
Speaker 2: to really think that was going to happen.
Speaker 1: You can to make believe it's okay. You die and
Speaker 1: some weird guys up and you get cremation.
Speaker 2: You get that was all about cremation. I'm about cremation
Speaker 2: for everyone else.
Speaker 3: But you're gonna come back as the zombie. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So but that's very final. You go right back into
Speaker 2: the cycle of things and into the earth and all
Speaker 2: that stuff, and that's very that's a little quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they say you need three days. You need three
Speaker 1: days for your consciousness to fully leave your body. So
Speaker 1: really we should be We used to like leave people
Speaker 1: and you'd come and look at the body for three days, right.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was called. I think that's
Speaker 1: the wake.
Speaker 2: See, I'd rather be buried in the ground and dug
Speaker 2: up as a fossil like a billion years from now.
Speaker 2: That'd be cooler.
Speaker 3: Going to those those events where the body is there
Speaker 3: is really unnerving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never done it.
Speaker 4: I've been.
Speaker 2: Face looks all weird because the muscles are relaxed, and
Speaker 2: they're like.
Speaker 4: I've heard it, like the final viewing. That's why I
Speaker 4: said the funeral thing. Man, I'm just like, no, sir,
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, but it's no because I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't I don't know if it's true for other races,
Speaker 4: but I don't know many Black people who get cremated
Speaker 4: like nine times out of ten and they're they're in
Speaker 4: a casket, they had the viewing, they have multiple viewings
Speaker 4: act because they have the viewing at the weight and
Speaker 4: you had the viewing at funeral, and I'm just like,
Speaker 4: are we going to sit here? And then afterwards we
Speaker 4: know we cook and fry a chicken, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. With Ryan's some flounder, potato salad, green band.
Speaker 4: I'm like, cook im on in and eat and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, let's see he's dead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, shouldn't we all just be like going home? Now?
Speaker 4: Like I we shouldn't have been here to start all with,
Speaker 4: but I think we should got it a hail the
Speaker 4: first this is tradition.
Speaker 3: The first Thanksgiving. My dad died on Thanksgiving when I
Speaker 3: was sixteen. When the next one we did at my
Speaker 3: friend's house. And his parents are really fun, but they're
Speaker 3: kind of crazy. And the mom, especially when she gets
Speaker 3: into the wine and it's Thanksgiving, so she's into the
Speaker 3: wine and my mom was doing some very like sincere
Speaker 3: sort of like righte. It wasn't a prayer or anything,
Speaker 3: it was just like and I remember my friend's mom goes,
Speaker 3: fuck him, he's dead, Carol, let's eat shit. And my
Speaker 3: mom just started laughing. She goes, let's see, like, what
Speaker 3: are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: You need the comice sometimes Yeah, yeah, it's only one
Speaker 1: year or two. That's pretty that's pretty quick to push
Speaker 1: through the comic ree.
Speaker 4: You have to watery.
Speaker 2: I just don't like funerals, Like I don't really want
Speaker 2: to go to them, Like they's like no offense to
Speaker 2: the dead, Like, but I don't really want to go
Speaker 2: to your funeral.
Speaker 1: Oh I hate funerals, but I've learned, Uh, you have
Speaker 1: to go to funerals for other people.
Speaker 2: Not for yourself. I fucking yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1: I feel like an asshole for all the funerals I
Speaker 1: didn't go to because for a while I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't love the funerals, it's my rule. And now
Speaker 1: I'm like, eh, that was kind of fucked up. All
Speaker 1: the other people still let me.
Speaker 2: I don't like your logic and reason there.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, my hold on. But then people will be
Speaker 4: coming up. Man, I mean, how you doing? I mean
Speaker 4: great right now? Not very good? You know, well it
Speaker 4: be okay, well, I know eventually, but were talking about
Speaker 4: like right now.
Speaker 3: Home to high school reunion or something like every time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just like all of a sudden, it's just a
Speaker 3: bunch of people you haven't talked to in a long
Speaker 3: time that all feel obligated to be there, which is
Speaker 3: nice of them, I suppose, but it also is forces
Speaker 3: weird conversations years strange time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I it's also has like the grief Olympics involved half
Speaker 1: the time, right where people are like what you think
Speaker 1: you knew them, you think you were a better friend
Speaker 1: of them than me, and like I don't even care,
Speaker 1: just sad. Can't we just be sad?
Speaker 4: No? No, no, no, no, no no no. I got to
Speaker 4: one up. I mean even at this this time grieving. Okay,
Speaker 4: Green Mountain Girl said the Cory. A lot of women
Speaker 4: are eager to get laid after a funeral. I mean.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad point. It was good picking ground.
Speaker 4: Okay, So this uh this, uh, that's where you go
Speaker 4: pick them up.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm just looking at like again, high school
Speaker 1: reunion types of funerals I have been to, and all
Speaker 1: the girls who are just low self esteem and now
Speaker 1: really sad and trashed. There's not good choices being.
Speaker 4: Oh, oh I got you. I went. I went to
Speaker 4: one of those last summer twenty years twenty years, no, no,
Speaker 4: the high school reunion. I don't know about low self esteem? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: at which I I don't think it was much of
Speaker 4: a reunion. It was about like thirty of us say wow,
Speaker 4: but we didn't.
Speaker 3: We didn't.
Speaker 4: We didn't have we didn't have many in our graduating
Speaker 4: class that we had like eighty something oh with mine. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so we were like as far as graduating class.
Speaker 1: We had small out, but we have a really everybody
Speaker 1: still A lot of people are still around the area
Speaker 1: I grew up, and then a lot of people like
Speaker 1: fly back for Thanksgiving of the summer, which is when
Speaker 1: they tend to have them. So we have a good
Speaker 1: a good turnout. But I was really pissed as the
Speaker 1: last one they canceled because of COVID. I was like,
Speaker 1: you fucking pussies, What the fuck? I was so mad.
Speaker 1: I was like, why are we not We're not gonna
Speaker 1: have our class. Our class was like known for creating
Speaker 1: all the rules because we broke everything that wasn't already
Speaker 1: a rule, and they had to put in rules that
Speaker 1: no one had ever had to have Before'd be like, no,
Speaker 1: you can't actually pee on another person during the day
Speaker 1: or whatever, Like we just like added all these rules
Speaker 1: to the list. So we were like the extreme rebels.
Speaker 1: We were like the only ones who never did jack
Speaker 1: ship for the class like competitions and shit, we were
Speaker 1: assholes and we didn't do a fucking COVID because of COVID.
Speaker 4: What year were you? Things had changed?
Speaker 3: I was ninety, so it was my thirty your anniversary.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, I would have been our twenty twentieth.
Speaker 1: And they did it and they're like, oh, we'll do
Speaker 1: twenty fifth. I'm like, I'm not going. You guys are assholes.
Speaker 1: Fuck you all.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it was it was a it was
Speaker 4: a trying time for everybody. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: pussy bitches. See if you couldn't see past the fact
Speaker 4: that they won't a lot going.
Speaker 1: On, what's happening?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like the movie That Happening, you know,
Speaker 4: where nothing happened in the entirety of the movie. I
Speaker 4: was just like I was waiting for it. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: was waiting for it. I was like, well, I was
Speaker 4: told I was going to die. I was told expect
Speaker 4: it all death. You're not taking the vaccine, you're dead. Yeah,
Speaker 4: especially the winner of death, say twenty twenty one multiple
Speaker 4: deaths here, I am on the way. I was expecting it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was expecting it not only for you, but your
Speaker 4: family as well. Yeah, suffering disease, and I.
Speaker 3: Ran up all my credit cards thinking I was gonna die.
Speaker 1: I think that actually happened too.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: Can you call the credit card company and be like, look,
Speaker 2: I just had cancer for five years. I thought I
Speaker 2: was gonna die. I'm just being honest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's even worse. Actually, yeah, but what what a
Speaker 4: what a horrendous message from your quote unquote leaders. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm saying, it's just like, is who who? How did
Speaker 4: this get to the PR team? You know, well you
Speaker 4: giving PR to everybody out there. It's like, all right, cool,
Speaker 4: the folks who haven't taken the JAB, just tell them,
Speaker 4: you know, them and their family they're gonna, you know,
Speaker 4: suffer this winter and probably die. It's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's great, let's put that out. I'm like somebody from
Speaker 4: the PR team like, hey, uh, that's probably not what
Speaker 4: we want to do. I'm just making this subject.
Speaker 1: They don't care suffer from imagining that you're going to suffer.
Speaker 3: They want you dead. We want you to think that
Speaker 3: you're gonna die.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but what what what did I tell you about
Speaker 4: about the whole premise of ruling over people is to
Speaker 4: give them hope even though there is no hope, have
Speaker 4: them maintained hope that there is something danger.
Speaker 3: If you've seen Shawshank, remember he gets lectured. Hope is
Speaker 3: a dangerous thing. Yeah, I'm hopeful, hope for tomorrow.
Speaker 4: That's what what if you think about it, that's what
Speaker 4: the that's what the majority of u of religion is.
Speaker 4: Religion is hope for tomorrow, hope for something better than
Speaker 4: than than where we are right now. It's the just hope.
Speaker 4: So keep folks failing, keep folks, you know, sheltered. Hey,
Speaker 4: we've got in America dream. But I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: so it's just like butt, you just kind of keep
Speaker 4: that alive and then you keep people at bay. That's
Speaker 4: a whole premise. But uh, I mean the quote unquote
Speaker 4: American dream, that thing is uh. I mean as a blade,
Speaker 4: well not as a wooden state put through his heart.
Speaker 4: It was vampiric wooden steak. And I don't think maybe
Speaker 4: we're not realizing or paying attention to it. And I know,
Speaker 4: you know, people talk about the real estate and stuff.
Speaker 4: I was like, well, you know, as housing costs cost increase,
Speaker 4: that is directly detrimental to every other industry out there
Speaker 4: entertainment wise, because the more and more people have to
Speaker 4: spend on their house and the less they got to
Speaker 4: go out to eat, go to your bar, go to
Speaker 4: the go to the theater, go to the you know,
Speaker 4: Disneyland wherever. It's just like the housing things gotten so
Speaker 4: out of control. I'm like, that's what's going to keel
Speaker 4: the rest of the economy in the United States. That'd
Speaker 4: be it directly, So.
Speaker 2: You know, oh, go down, Sorry ahead, Charlie Well.
Speaker 3: I went through that in Vegas working in for builders
Speaker 3: new home sales in two thousand and three through twenty twelve,
Speaker 3: and at one point when I was working for Pulti
Speaker 3: del Web, we were fifteen percent of the entire Our
Speaker 3: Las Vegas division was fifteen percent of the entire revenue
Speaker 3: of the country. And when you're when things are good,
Speaker 3: you know what they'd let you get away with doing
Speaker 3: renting out the House of Blues and throwing a huge
Speaker 3: ass party with an open bar for everybody in the company.
Speaker 3: People just getting annihilated and bringing in all kinds of
Speaker 3: fucking vans to play and crazy shit like that. Because
Speaker 3: we couldn't be told anything when it when it goes south.
Speaker 3: It happened so fast, and I'll tell you how I
Speaker 3: found out it was happening. The first indicator to me
Speaker 3: was when I had people that were under contract that
Speaker 3: were scheduled to close in the next three weeks or
Speaker 3: four weeks or whatever, and we were sort of like
Speaker 3: working with our in house lender, and I'd get a
Speaker 3: phone call from the lender. Hey, you know, like how
Speaker 3: we got the Johnson's approved on that loan, that that
Speaker 3: loan program through so and so. Okay, yeah, yeah, well
Speaker 3: that loan program went away today. Fuck, well what do
Speaker 3: we have? What are our backup ops? She's like, well,
Speaker 3: I can put him in this other thing. Okay, Well
Speaker 3: are they all right with that? He's like yeah, I
Speaker 3: talked to him there, all right, I'll put him in
Speaker 3: this other thing.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: Well I guess problem solved. He's like, yeah, I just
Speaker 3: want to let you know. Then the day after that,
Speaker 3: I get a call going that loan program went away too.
Speaker 3: And then the next week I get a call saying
Speaker 3: that entire mortgage company went.
Speaker 4: Out of business. What is going on here? We got
Speaker 4: to get these people to the finish line.
Speaker 3: But everything like the music, Like the chairs were getting
Speaker 3: taken out of the Musical Chairs game. You could see that.
Speaker 3: I could see the chairs getting taken out. That Lend
Speaker 3: is gone, Indie Mac is gone.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: All these sketchy lenders countrywide is filing for bankerschec. What
Speaker 3: the fuck? Like we were doing sixty percent of our
Speaker 3: deals with like you just could see it and we
Speaker 3: felt it. We were getting that four months before the
Speaker 3: market was reflecting that, so we could see it coming.
Speaker 3: I was just like, I'm going to get walloped on
Speaker 3: my houses. We're going to get creamed. And I had
Speaker 3: thirty I remember I had thirty three. Not to be
Speaker 3: Masonic or anything, but I specifically remember I had thirty
Speaker 3: three houses under contract. And in order to get out
Speaker 3: ahead of this, Dell Web PULTI del Web, but I
Speaker 3: was working for del Web, lowered the prices by twenty
Speaker 3: percent and I had so many investor deals that by
Speaker 3: the time it was all said and done, of my
Speaker 3: thirty three, I only had three left who everybody else
Speaker 3: had canceled.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: So like I've seen it every way you can see it,
Speaker 3: and like the crazy shit like people camping out in
Speaker 3: your parking lot for the lottery the next morning you're
Speaker 3: coming in and like, excuse me, excuse me. I have
Speaker 3: to get into my office and draw your name out
Speaker 3: of a hat and then you give me money. They'd
Speaker 3: all left checks. I had ernest money, ten thousand dollars
Speaker 3: earnest money deposits for forty different people. Wow, I could
Speaker 3: only sell like I mean, I sold twelve houses one day,
Speaker 3: totally unsustainable. And it's great when.
Speaker 4: It's oh, it's great, it's going up.
Speaker 3: But then again, of those twelve, I think maybe like
Speaker 3: five of them even made it all the way through.
Speaker 3: So fucking not healthy. You he screws up the economy
Speaker 3: at fucked Vegas upcre you know, because you're fucked Vegas
Speaker 3: up for years after that because so much was so
Speaker 3: much of the revenue is like it's gaming, conventions, tourism,
Speaker 3: and construction, and when construction goes.
Speaker 2: Away, Vegas has experience that decline right now, you know,
Speaker 2: financial But this thing, these things are cyclical. They're always cyclical,
Speaker 2: and so.
Speaker 3: They made it cyclical by their reckless behavior. Like The
Speaker 3: Big Short, if you've ever watched that movie, like it's
Speaker 3: a documentary to me, I swear to God, the same
Speaker 3: even down to like the strippers doing your your home
Speaker 3: loans for people had an experience with them, so like
Speaker 3: it is cyclical, but they it's in part it's fueled
Speaker 3: by like the they you know, they go in and
Speaker 3: they change regulations a couple of years beforehand and and
Speaker 3: change the regulations for commercial banks and things like that,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden everything blows up in
Speaker 3: the commercial banking sector and you're like, oh, I couldn't
Speaker 3: believe that this is what did you think was gonna happen?
Speaker 3: You intentionally had Larry Summers do this so that you
Speaker 3: could unlock the opportunity for all these banks which he
Speaker 3: was a part of, to just speculate on all kinds
Speaker 3: of crazy dog shit, and when it all went wrong,
Speaker 3: which was like eight years later, get completely bailed out
Speaker 3: by the government. So I don't know what you know,
Speaker 3: people are going on and on about capitalism has failed
Speaker 3: us and anything. We don't have capitalism. We don't have
Speaker 3: anything close to them now when the government is bailing
Speaker 3: out entire industries becamean it's not free markets. It's it's
Speaker 3: as Berwick calls it, capitalism.
Speaker 2: That's what it is. Right now in Vegas, the number
Speaker 2: of houses for sale is near like an all time peak.
Speaker 2: It's like double what it was during COVID. It's it's
Speaker 2: truly astonishing. Same thing in Florida. There is a half
Speaker 2: a dozen states where the amount of houses currently available
Speaker 2: for sale is near all time highs. And just a
Speaker 2: couple of months ago, I watched Miami. Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 2: saw it change on the on all.
Speaker 3: The high rise buildings and totally tanked the market.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I saw. That's a fucking nightmare for
Speaker 2: those I live there, because they're going to these people
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, you o a seventy five brand, just
Speaker 2: like that, right. But Vegas rentals have been plummeting. When
Speaker 2: I left there in twenty twenty, like the cheapest place
Speaker 2: I could get if I wanted to stay for a
Speaker 2: one bedroom was like twelve hundred bucks or something like that.
Speaker 2: Now you can find those same rentals for like nine
Speaker 2: hundred bucks. And as of a couple months ago, I
Speaker 2: saw a thing on YouTube a couple months ago they
Speaker 2: were eleven new apartment buildings that started during COVID that
Speaker 2: were still under construction in Vegas that are going to
Speaker 2: hit the market in the next year or two, which,
Speaker 2: you know, what do you do when you have an
Speaker 2: apartment complex and you have one hundred and fifteen open
Speaker 2: fucking rentals and the markets tanked, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: If you're if you're in the boom of two thousand
Speaker 3: and four, like a place like Flamingo Palms, you convert
Speaker 3: them into condos and then sell them that way. I
Speaker 3: know because I bought one of them. They they did,
Speaker 3: and you're basically just buying an apartment complex, an apartment
Speaker 3: inside an apartment complex, except you own it and you
Speaker 3: could get in and so I remember buying one of
Speaker 3: those for like one hundred and seventeen thousand bucks.
Speaker 2: Screw, that's a good deal. But nowadays you got to
Speaker 2: pay like a lot of money for your monthlies and stuff.
Speaker 3: It's the hoa they get you. Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 3: It's not the best I mean we had I had
Speaker 3: tenants in there, so it was fine, but it's not
Speaker 3: the best revenue model when you have high hoas.
Speaker 2: I looked at a couple places I thought that would
Speaker 2: be interesting as like someplace to live, and you had
Speaker 2: like the Platinum, which is kind of off strip a
Speaker 2: little bit, and they had condotel.
Speaker 3: You can't live there full time though.
Speaker 2: Oh you can't. Oh that sucks. See if you could
Speaker 2: get one of those, they had him in the one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand range that were pretty decent for about
Speaker 2: eight hundred a month in maintenance.
Speaker 3: You can't get financed on him either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta pay pretty much paid cash for those.
Speaker 3: If you're if if it's a condo tet like Palm's Place,
Speaker 3: which is fucking killer, like beautiful, great location, like instant party, well,
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it was when the poems was
Speaker 3: the thing. You can't get financing on it, and your
Speaker 3: revenue split with the house is like fifty percent, and
Speaker 3: you The only people I know who buy those are
Speaker 3: like airline pilots.
Speaker 2: They're like sometimes yeah, but.
Speaker 4: It's it's like a investment.
Speaker 1: What's that called recreational properties that you can only stay
Speaker 1: on like six months of the year. You can't put
Speaker 1: anything permanent on it.
Speaker 4: Usually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never heard of that for like a condo.
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, well it's a segment called condo tell it's
Speaker 3: part of it's when it's a condo inside of a
Speaker 3: hotel and so like MGM signature towers are like that,
Speaker 3: it's not you've got the main MGM. And then you've
Speaker 3: got these three white towers. If you ever got in
Speaker 3: the pool area, you'll see them. Those are all residential towers,
Speaker 3: but they're condo tells, so which you know. And I
Speaker 3: knew a guy who sold them there and like club
Speaker 3: and baby seals, so easy for him to sell during
Speaker 3: the boat because investors were coming in with cash and
Speaker 3: just buying up a dozen at a time.
Speaker 1: But it was like timeshare, why can't you stay there
Speaker 1: all the time?
Speaker 3: It because it it's serviced. It's just it's the legality
Speaker 3: of the structure of the building because what happens is
Speaker 3: that they want to rent them. You can own it
Speaker 3: and you can stay there up to thirty days, but
Speaker 3: you've got it. You can't stay more than that. You
Speaker 3: can't live there permanently. And you can have there's a
Speaker 3: lockoff closet in there you can leave have your stuff
Speaker 3: and it's not huge, but you've got a little spot
Speaker 3: for your stuff. But they want it in the rental pool.
Speaker 1: Other people are gonna be there when you're.
Speaker 3: Not there, correct, And for some people that's great, like
Speaker 3: the airline pilot guys, fucking perfect. I'm gonna be in
Speaker 3: Bangladesh for the next four days rented out a long
Speaker 3: gone great. But for people with like more traditional lives,
Speaker 3: it doesn't work. You can't you can't be there long term.
Speaker 3: And as for an investor, it's like you've got to
Speaker 3: pay cash for it and in your return on CA,
Speaker 3: I mean, it turns into a whole finance lesson that
Speaker 3: nobody gives a shit about. But it's just that there
Speaker 3: there's better investments out there, best investments that you can get.
Speaker 3: Buy four plexus, buy shitty four plexes and fix them
Speaker 3: up and put renters in there. That's what my partners do.
Speaker 3: We've been looking for for twenty years.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Vegas condos between one hundred and one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand, and there's over one hundred and
Speaker 2: one all over.
Speaker 3: I mean some building names.
Speaker 4: Let me see, you got a couple are on the strip.
Speaker 4: And are you talking about on a strip or are
Speaker 4: you talking.
Speaker 2: About all of Vegas Valley?
Speaker 4: Oh? Okay?
Speaker 2: And so I'm looking at price cuts, and these price
Speaker 2: cuts are ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Everything has a price right thirteen.
Speaker 3: You want to buy a condo or house in Las Vegas,
Speaker 3: hit me up. I own run a real estate brokerage.
Speaker 3: They're alter luxury dot Com. You go check it out.
Speaker 1: Charlie to broker here, but he doesn't do Colorado.
Speaker 3: I'm not Colorado.
Speaker 2: To find me a luxury penthouse, sweet that someone wants
Speaker 2: to let me live in for free with my dog? Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: the dog will be the selling point right there.
Speaker 3: Do you have any preference on building?
Speaker 2: I really want to be in here, but i'll take
Speaker 2: I'll settle for Pama.
Speaker 3: Watch out the you know, did you tell you about
Speaker 3: what the secret thing is? They built Veer Towers's these
Speaker 3: two towers.
Speaker 4: That go like that.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, like lean in city center, and they look
Speaker 3: really awesome and from what I hear, they're very nice.
Speaker 3: But when they built them, one of the things that
Speaker 3: they didn't know because they couldn't know, was that it
Speaker 3: created this huge wind tunnel and made a gigantic, really
Speaker 3: loud whistle anytime the wind would go through there. So
Speaker 3: they had to wind up putting like fins on it
Speaker 3: on the top.
Speaker 2: Of it, like it's all the airflow. It's all glad.
Speaker 2: You can't walk around naked in that place. It is
Speaker 2: all glass.
Speaker 1: Hey, you can walk around naked. You just have to
Speaker 1: accept that everyone's going to see you.
Speaker 2: Everyone's going to see you. Yeah, you have no privacy
Speaker 2: in there, like you're it's it's it's very wild.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was walking on in New York City under it's
Speaker 1: some famous boardwalk. Everyone probably knows what it is, and
Speaker 1: there's like a hotel that straddles it. At some point,
Speaker 1: I like looked up at the hotel and there's just
Speaker 1: a guy standing there, like butt naked with his dack
Speaker 1: out in the window. I was like, that guy's naked.
Speaker 1: The person I was like, don't look at him. That's
Speaker 1: what he wants, like pulled me away. He probably does
Speaker 1: this every day.
Speaker 2: He wants.
Speaker 1: O weirdo. I was like, there are children here, dick away, sir.
Speaker 1: But I think tactically like it's not indecent exposure because
Speaker 1: that's your house, Like, aren't you allowed to be naked
Speaker 1: in your house? I think so, I'm not really sure
Speaker 1: for that. I might be might be some.
Speaker 4: I mean, it should probably be with the windows closed,
Speaker 4: but you know.
Speaker 1: Should and and is it illegal or not? Or two
Speaker 1: different things?
Speaker 4: Blinds? I mean, I feel I got a feeling that
Speaker 4: it's not illegal because it's your private property. But you know,
Speaker 4: Kuth would uh uh say that you probably should at
Speaker 4: least close your blinds. Probably, that's all. Yeah, that is all.
Speaker 1: I just want to property. It's so big that I
Speaker 1: co walk around naked inside and outside and no one
Speaker 1: would ever see me. That's the goal.
Speaker 3: Okay, we don't have not we don't have blinds in
Speaker 3: our new house yet we're still uh, we're still working
Speaker 3: on that blinds and now we're in a much tighter,
Speaker 3: more confined space, so I can like see the neighbors
Speaker 3: just a different and eventually we'll go away.
Speaker 1: But for now, kind of have you tried the restore?
Speaker 3: No, what's that?
Speaker 1: It's like they pull sometimes it's shit, you know, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it's brand new stuff, but they pull things out
Speaker 1: of like old you know, when they're demoing something. They'll
Speaker 1: pull out the contry or the whatever, and so you
Speaker 1: can go buy it there super cheap. And but sometimes
Speaker 1: they've got like the end of a shipment no one
Speaker 1: wanted to sell somewhere in a store. So now there's
Speaker 1: just like seven thousand blinds here and they're all brand new.
Speaker 1: So it's worth checking out because sometimes there's some really
Speaker 1: nice shit there.
Speaker 3: I know the name, I just haven't actually ever been
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 1: It's like the thrift store for home building, gotcha. So yeah,
Speaker 1: some sometimes it's just a bunch of shit, and sometimes
Speaker 1: you're like, holy crap, how did that end up here?
Speaker 1: I want that? This is how I basically accidentally flipped
Speaker 1: my three properties. So I'd go to the restore and
Speaker 1: just find shit to put in and replace, you know,
Speaker 1: the other stuff that was ugly or old or outdated
Speaker 1: or not working. And and then I'd accidentally move right
Speaker 1: after the market like just went way up for my
Speaker 1: route in and they're like, oh, okay, I'm just like
Speaker 1: I didn't ever meant to be a home flipper, but
Speaker 1: there I went.
Speaker 3: That's what my partners do. I mean. We had a
Speaker 3: TV show for twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen on HGTV.
Speaker 3: It was fun, not fun for them, they were stressed,
Speaker 3: but it was fun for me. I'd parachute in at
Speaker 3: the end, like fly in and watched the last three
Speaker 3: days of filming and then leave.
Speaker 1: So you weren't on the show.
Speaker 3: I'm not credited in the show either, but I wrote
Speaker 3: the intro. But no my partner's husband and wife team
Speaker 3: Aubrey and Bristol They're fantastic. They were just flipping houses
Speaker 3: in Vegas for years before this got approached. They're the
Speaker 3: perfect couple for it too. He's like an MMA fighter,
Speaker 3: she's like a good looking blonde cheerleader from you and
Speaker 3: l V a really really good design taste, and the
Speaker 3: three of us have worked together for for twenty years,
Speaker 3: so it was easy for I mean, it wasn't like
Speaker 3: a big change for me to come in and be
Speaker 3: involved in it, but it was. It was different to
Speaker 3: have camera crews with you just everywhere you go. I mean,
Speaker 3: it makes everything take so much longer. You know, we
Speaker 3: would have been done. We could turn around a house
Speaker 3: and three weeks pretty easily, but not with a camera
Speaker 3: crew six weeks, you know, and you have to do
Speaker 3: three of them at the same time, jugo, So paying
Speaker 3: the ass like cash flow wise doesn't make much sense,
Speaker 3: and they didn't pay much. Yeah, but it was fun.
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was like one of those
Speaker 3: things like we could do it like that.
Speaker 4: You know, it gets you more as well.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. I was turned into like their manager,
Speaker 3: which was funny because I'm not a manager, but I
Speaker 3: was booking them for home shows and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and you know, every weekend, fly to another city, do
Speaker 3: a home show, go up on stage, say we're from
Speaker 3: Flip or Flas Vegas and come over and sign. They'd
Speaker 3: sign autographs and stuff and do that for two days
Speaker 3: and leave.
Speaker 4: I mean it was.
Speaker 3: You could make money doing that, I suppose. But they're like,
Speaker 3: we make more money flipping these houses. Like this is
Speaker 3: slowing us up, Like it's actually costing us money to
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then after it got to be.
Speaker 3: Too exhausting, they're just like, we're kind of done. And
Speaker 3: I think, actually, to be honest with you, I think
Speaker 3: HGTV did not really appreciate their conservative values. I shouldn't
Speaker 3: even say conservative. It's like it's conservative slash slash conspiracy
Speaker 3: because it's because they're all into the same stuff we're into.
Speaker 4: I would yeah, yeah, I would have same. Right now
Speaker 4: was probably not the best point in time the want
Speaker 4: to get into the flipping game as far as the houses.
Speaker 3: You better know what you're doing at my house and
Speaker 3: figure it out. Do that now with like you could
Speaker 3: do that when interest rates for two and a half
Speaker 3: percent and you know, in the market wasn't like super frothy.
Speaker 3: But now, I mean, you can make money. You can
Speaker 3: make money in any market, but you just have to
Speaker 3: be extremely careful. And we would always get calls to
Speaker 3: like I get emails from people like I own a
Speaker 3: ten million dollar house in Dallas. I want you to
Speaker 3: come out and flip it. I'm I fix it, you know,
Speaker 3: renovate it. We're like, here's the problem. That sounds great,
Speaker 3: but once we leave Vegas, we lose all of our trades,
Speaker 3: we lose all of our right pliers, we lose all
Speaker 3: the great relationships that we have, like the Marble guy.
Speaker 3: The Marble Guy was in almost every episode because he
Speaker 3: owns this great marble place that we'ld go our flooring
Speaker 3: from and he'd give us a sick discount and we'd
Speaker 3: just say drag the cameras and put him on camera.
Speaker 3: And he loved being on camera. So we'd get like
Speaker 3: crazy deals on the tile and on the granted countertops
Speaker 3: and everything. But once we would leave, because I would
Speaker 3: you know, same thing at Beverly Hills. We'd get this
Speaker 3: place in Beverly Hills. We just we love your style,
Speaker 3: we love what you got. The problem is we can't
Speaker 3: make money doing that because we can't get our people
Speaker 3: to come out there. And do it, and we're not
Speaker 3: going to just come into a new market, not know
Speaker 3: anybody and not get good deals too. So it was
Speaker 3: one of those things where we were confined to Vegas,
Speaker 3: but within Vegas. And then another thing was that they
Speaker 3: would show on the on the show like oh, total
Speaker 3: investment in the kitchen fifty seven hundred dollars. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: fifty seven hundred dollars of materials, but you're not counting labor,
Speaker 3: which you're getting for free because it's them doing it themselves.
Speaker 3: They didn't we didn't have a team. We had two
Speaker 3: other guys, so it was like maybe four people with
Speaker 3: most working on the house, but it was them working
Speaker 3: on it. So people are like, oh, I want the
Speaker 3: fifty seven hundred dollars kitchen, it doesn't exist. It's a
Speaker 3: fifteen thousand dollars kitchen because once we factor in the labor,
Speaker 3: that's what it's gonna be. And people are like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is bullshit, Like no, actually it's not. This is
Speaker 3: the real reality of it. But you don't get those
Speaker 3: deals if you're brand new and in some other markets.
Speaker 3: So if you're going to buy a house to fix
Speaker 3: it up, like you better know what you're doing, you
Speaker 3: better have enough money to make some mistakes, like a lot.
Speaker 4: Of Yeah, and like you said, you probably need to
Speaker 4: be more localized too, as far as we have to. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: And that's what I guess. People are just assumed. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I can just start it and I can just go
Speaker 4: all over the place and do it. It's like, well,
Speaker 4: not exactly, because like you said, I mean, like the
Speaker 4: whole the whole premise of businesses is to start relationships
Speaker 4: with people. That way you can get the better discounts
Speaker 4: because both of y'all be making money in the long run.
Speaker 4: But you said, you guy who got the marble, he
Speaker 4: loved being on camera because that was that was great
Speaker 4: marketing for his company.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: But I say, you know, well, who's this guy? You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I mean, so he's probably able
Speaker 4: to garner more business because he was on HGTV.
Speaker 3: And we had that written in the contract. Three seconds
Speaker 3: of on camera, we want to show the sign to
Speaker 3: his place and then of that for three seconds and
Speaker 3: then whatever we film inside film inside.
Speaker 4: Yeah, life is scratched. Yeah, yeah, life is scratch my
Speaker 4: back and I scratch yours. That's why that's why we
Speaker 4: can't do ship in government because all them niggas getting
Speaker 4: their backscratched by everybody's got a bunch of money, all right,
Speaker 4: And so once they get their backscratch and they get
Speaker 4: that ship putting their account, they need some reciprocal and
Speaker 4: then what we're talking about right here reachingly reciprocal tears.
Speaker 4: They need some reciprocal So I mean, I put five
Speaker 4: million in your account. I need you to hook me
Speaker 4: up with his law. Oh okay, well I guess my
Speaker 4: to you know, follow through them on what I promised. So,
Speaker 4: I mean that's just the premise.
Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on with.
Speaker 4: Rum?
Speaker 1: They're fighting?
Speaker 3: Are they feels like it feels like he's Trump's gonna
Speaker 3: come off the top rope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so hit him with the chair.
Speaker 3: Hit him with a chair, you know.
Speaker 2: Steve from Ay and wake Up was saying that he
Speaker 2: was telling me that, in his opinion, Trump is just
Speaker 2: really good at reading the situation and that he could
Speaker 2: tell that, Yeah, who's on the way out in Israel?
Speaker 2: Everyone hates him over there. His Ohn party hates him,
Speaker 2: hates him. Everyone fucking hates him.
Speaker 1: They tried to get him out. He stayed in on
Speaker 1: a technicality.
Speaker 2: Right, so he has nothing to lose by being anti
Speaker 2: Nitan Yahoo fair at all. So I'm glad that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean anti Israel, because the people who isn't, like Benavie
Speaker 2: and whatnot, are a bunch of fucking psychopaths exactly.
Speaker 3: That's that's kind of my my fears that it's not
Speaker 3: It could be I'm having a falling out with my
Speaker 3: boyfriend Beibant and Yahoo, But that doesn't They're just bringing
Speaker 3: a new, bigger psychopath.
Speaker 2: Right. But didn't fucking Trump bring up Building seven this week?
Speaker 4: I don't know he did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome in what context.
Speaker 2: It was on Alex jones fucking headline. I never got
Speaker 2: around the clicking on it. But Alex Jones doesn't make
Speaker 2: it up out of thin air. At least I could
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always got some good sources.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, you have an outs with baby, yah? Yeah,
Speaker 2: bring up Building seven in the same week. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a conspiracy theorist weet dream, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting. Well, that's the other thing he's
Speaker 1: good at reading is like what people want to hear
Speaker 1: from him, whether it ever like results in anything. What
Speaker 1: to say to keep everyone like.
Speaker 2: Ooh, you are correct, dude.
Speaker 1: I just watched this video of him. It was actually
Speaker 1: his parents talking about him as a child, which was
Speaker 1: probably all bullshit. They're like, oh, he loved playing Monopoly
Speaker 1: and and he built with building blocks. I'm like, so
Speaker 1: like the two things he does as an adult. But
Speaker 1: but the way his mom talks and her mannerisms, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, there he is, like he just is
Speaker 1: his mom, Like it's just like she talks exactly, like
Speaker 1: you know, you can always sort of see this in families,
Speaker 1: but it was interesting to see it isn't all just
Speaker 1: a ruse, like this is actually the passed down family mannerisms.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Kind of adorable, even though they're probably both psychopaths.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure his mom was not the best.
Speaker 1: Probably better than fucking oh god, what's the blue eyed,
Speaker 1: silver hair journalist Anderson Cooper and killed his brother in
Speaker 1: front of him or something? Is like a sacrifice to Satan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a Vanderbilt and you know that's Satanic
Speaker 3: ritual abuse.
Speaker 1: Satanic ritual abuse, and always got to sacrifice someone in
Speaker 1: each generation, it seems so apparently it was his brother.
Speaker 3: Just throw him out the window.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like maybe made him do it to his
Speaker 1: brother as well, because he was there and saw it
Speaker 1: and has trauma about it. And I wouldn't doubt if
Speaker 1: that was like a way, you know, because they make
Speaker 1: their victims participate in victimizing others so that it becomes
Speaker 1: harder to disentangle, like am I the evil one or
Speaker 1: am I the victim?
Speaker 4: Or like what?
Speaker 1: Oh well, this is just what we do.
Speaker 4: Was it? Was it some some ready or not? Sh It,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen that movie, ready or not. Okay, So,
Speaker 4: so the premise of the movie, you get married into
Speaker 4: this family and then uh before before they had the wind,
Speaker 4: uh they pull a card. Okay, this is his deck
Speaker 4: of cards, and they pull a card and then whatever
Speaker 4: they pulled, you have to play a game that night.
Speaker 4: And so they pulled Hide and go Seek. And so
Speaker 4: it's like okay, hide and go seek. It's like all right,
Speaker 4: go hide. But the thing is is that like the
Speaker 4: bride goes hide, goes and hides, and the family has
Speaker 4: to go try to kill them. Who oh good, that's
Speaker 4: the premise. Yeah, And so how they got their wealth
Speaker 4: is they pretty much made a pack with the demon
Speaker 4: that they'd have to play these games into prepeturity in
Speaker 4: order to maintain their wealth, and so they do, and
Speaker 4: if they don't actually make the blood sacrifice by the
Speaker 4: end of the night, by the time of his daybreak,
Speaker 4: then they'll all die.
Speaker 1: There's just something like that going on. It's been going
Speaker 1: on at least since Carthage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got going on. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: See how probably people won't want to actually have a
Speaker 4: chance to watch this. I'm just gonna spoil this full
Speaker 4: work spoil alert. But uh, it gets to the end
Speaker 4: of the movie and that the bride survives the night
Speaker 4: and it gets daybreak, and they're like, son hits and
Speaker 4: they're like, oh shit, they've been killing people all these years,
Speaker 4: and it was all bullshit.
Speaker 1: I thought there was just gonna dissolve. It was just no.
Speaker 4: And then all their heads started to start to explode,
Speaker 4: all their heads start to explain. They're just sitting there.
Speaker 4: It just exploded. It's like the woman's like, oh shit,
Speaker 4: I guess it was real. Oh well, there with the.
Speaker 1: Devil, you're never gonna come out on top.
Speaker 4: Oh well, I mean, you know, you do what you
Speaker 4: need to do at that point in time, right, It says,
Speaker 4: I made a choice here, so was the choice goody Hey, well,
Speaker 4: speaking of choices, I finally found there's finally wanted the
Speaker 4: chick from the Playboy Mansion. Was it Kendrew Wilkerson. She
Speaker 4: finally came. I mean one of the few ones that
Speaker 4: finally came out. Said I was eighteen, I was broke,
Speaker 4: and Hugh Heffner said I could come live in the mansion,
Speaker 4: have sex with him once a week and get paid.
Speaker 4: And so that's what I did. I'm like, thank you.
Speaker 4: The rest of these women out here like, oh, I
Speaker 4: got done dirty and I got try to stop. He
Speaker 4: called you up and said, hey, I'll pay you X
Speaker 4: amount of money you'll get expected you're if you come
Speaker 4: here and be one of my girlfriends, one of my
Speaker 4: wives for the next five years. You know, I get
Speaker 4: to hit it once a week. And it's like, would
Speaker 4: you like to get you know, he ain't go kidnap
Speaker 4: nobody or nothing. He called you up with an offer
Speaker 4: straight up. That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fair proposition. You can accept her deny.
Speaker 1: It's your choice.
Speaker 4: That was it. And she was just like, look, I
Speaker 4: mean I had nothing going for me. So I was
Speaker 4: like this month to go have sex with this old
Speaker 4: wrinkley d for a little bit, you know, saying.
Speaker 3: Geez every day all around the world to women, this
Speaker 3: is nothing new.
Speaker 1: I feel like marriage half the time is even this.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, it's actually like the most important
Speaker 1: economic decision you're ever gonna make, like who you marry, right,
Speaker 1: men and women? Because for men you're like how much?
Speaker 1: When is she going to steal half my wealth? For
Speaker 1: women it's like how am I going to get wealth?
Speaker 1: Usually I'm really right and plicit in that is like
Speaker 1: you're gonna have sex with me on the way, So
Speaker 1: like I'm not saying it should be that way. I
Speaker 1: think obviously people should marry for love, but I think
Speaker 1: most people don't even know that exists, so instead they're
Speaker 1: marrying for money.
Speaker 4: They know something about it. Well a lot of a
Speaker 4: lot of times, I think it's just the next step
Speaker 4: because we're always we're always looking for progression, let's just
Speaker 4: say that as humans. So eventually you know, you have
Speaker 4: your date and stage, then you have okay, we're boyfriend
Speaker 4: and girlfriend. Okay, all right, so now we're looking at
Speaker 4: getting a place together. Okay, So now we're getting married,
Speaker 4: all right, So now we're having a kid and we
Speaker 4: got our dog. It's like, well, well, hold on, what's next.
Speaker 4: There is no next, it's just you too, and how
Speaker 4: are you gonna be able to make it? That's it. So,
Speaker 4: you know, people talk about commitment and it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, you're not committed until you're married. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I don't believe that because there's plenty of people who
Speaker 4: get married all the time to cheat on their spouses.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hell, don't even aint you like their spouses.
Speaker 1: To be honest, there's plenty of people who've been together
Speaker 1: for like thirty years that never got married, but they're
Speaker 1: married in their heart. R. Yeah, they don't have the
Speaker 1: piece of paper.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you just don't have to sheet of paper.
Speaker 4: I was like, So, the commitment in a particular situation
Speaker 4: is can't you endure the test of time? That's that's
Speaker 4: the commitment. Because let's say if you get married at
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, twenty five and you lived at seventy five,
Speaker 4: I mean you're talking about fifty plasure years the test
Speaker 4: of time.
Speaker 1: Johnny's parents just had their fiftieth anniversary and five years
Speaker 1: before they were married too. I've never seen this in
Speaker 1: my life until right now.
Speaker 4: Like, wow, that's what I'm saying. Can't I mean, can
Speaker 4: you do it? I mean that's the sign of commitment.
Speaker 4: If you were able to endure the teste of time.
Speaker 4: That's I mean, that's pretty much it. Uh not everybody's
Speaker 4: supposed to make it, and that can be okay too. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm ganous.
Speaker 1: If you're not happy, I think you should go. I
Speaker 1: don't care if there's kids involved or not. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't think kids need to learn the lesson of you
Speaker 1: stay with someone just even though you're all miserable. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's a good thing to teach children. Actually,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ideal to have a divorce either.
Speaker 1: I just like, I just don't think that it's anything
Speaker 1: better to be like, yeah, we stay together. We hate
Speaker 1: each other and we're both miserable. We do it for you.
Speaker 1: Like wait, what, I don't want to be a part
Speaker 1: of this. Like fuck, I don't think that's good to
Speaker 1: teach kids.
Speaker 4: For the illusion of because the illusion is better than
Speaker 4: the reality.
Speaker 1: Kids know they see through that ship Like my parents
Speaker 1: hate each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you yeah, but you can still you can
Speaker 4: still convince yourself whether you know it deep down inside
Speaker 4: or not, and you've repressed those feelings, you still want
Speaker 4: to convince yourself that there's something there and that things
Speaker 4: will change.
Speaker 1: Suck someone's dick or like seeing if you can get
Speaker 1: like you're not happy, you should just break up, move on,
Speaker 1: get over it. It's not you're never going back. Do
Speaker 1: you see this all the time where like both people
Speaker 1: or at least one of them is out like trut about.
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's no going back from them. Why are
Speaker 1: you even trying just like break up and move on?
Speaker 4: Well, look for me, I mean, if it's if a
Speaker 4: man's out and about, he's he's fully committed to cheating,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, woman's or drop of a whim.
Speaker 4: You know it could be next day.
Speaker 1: Like trying to suck someone's dick, I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: you even getting out of it? If you can to
Speaker 1: cheat at least like have an orgasm, like what you're
Speaker 1: just gonna give to someone else an orgasm?
Speaker 4: Well, those aren't guaranteed. Those aren't guaranteed, Lindsey. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, it's not the same. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, it's not guaranteed. So yeah, I could. I
Speaker 4: can understand your premise there with that, but uh, it's
Speaker 4: just like I don't know, it's uh, I know, actually
Speaker 4: a couple, well, one of my friends, their parents stayed
Speaker 4: together until he was eighteen, but from what I understand,
Speaker 4: they didn't like each other for at least ten years.
Speaker 1: Okay. Was he surprised when they broke up?
Speaker 4: Was he like what?
Speaker 1: Or was he like, yeah, that makes sense. No.
Speaker 4: They both reburied and everything went their separate ways. So
Speaker 4: you know, it is what it is. And that's what's
Speaker 4: crazy is that, uh he got married and separated and
Speaker 4: got married again, so but he didn't he didn't have
Speaker 4: kids with his uh with his first wife. I think
Speaker 4: they kind of think they had like three or four miscarriages.
Speaker 4: And I was like, look, that's probably telling y'all something
Speaker 4: because after she got remarried, she had both her kids
Speaker 4: with no problem. Interesting, Yeah, that's it's probably the the
Speaker 4: the if that if you believe in karma and some
Speaker 4: other ship that swirls around in the air, and the
Speaker 4: ship swirling around the air is probably like, hey, eventually
Speaker 4: this is gonna actually go through, and it shouldn't go
Speaker 4: through for y'all. Okay, because y'all are straight up toxic
Speaker 4: for one another.
Speaker 1: I don't know, though. You see all sorts of kids
Speaker 1: coming through massively toxic people too, So who knows.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is this is true. You know, I
Speaker 4: think every every every once in a while, you know,
Speaker 4: a few poor souls get saved from the agony of
Speaker 4: that bullshit.
Speaker 1: You remember that was like, women's bodies have a way
Speaker 1: of shutting that kind of thing down when they're abortion
Speaker 1: for rape.
Speaker 2: Is that in the Bible or something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's totally the Bible. Women's bodies. That's a direct
Speaker 1: quote from God, women's bodies.
Speaker 2: That's funny senators.
Speaker 1: Quoting the Bible. Hey, speaking of religious stuff, we have
Speaker 1: an American pope, first time in history.
Speaker 2: Does anybody give to the pope?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he said, he said Trump what they make
Speaker 4: sure they're putting that up there. Yeah, he talked about Trump.
Speaker 4: They made sure they put that up there as well.
Speaker 1: Even though Catholics loved Trump's pope picture, that shut the
Speaker 1: Catholic Trump or the catholicture.
Speaker 3: It was the best pope picture they've ever seen. They
Speaker 3: loved it, didn't this I mean, let's do a hard
Speaker 3: drive sort history check on this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: First, nothing nothing, there's like nothing protector.
Speaker 3: He was a protector of a bunch of pedophile priests.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of people who are at like complains
Speaker 1: of priests who are under him, and and he just
Speaker 1: you know I'm talking about you know.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about when you go to the news outlets
Speaker 4: and stuff and you're like, Okay, who is uh Francis
Speaker 4: Provost or whatever. It's just like he's just a.
Speaker 3: Guy fan, you know, he's just like, yeah, he's just
Speaker 3: a guy indicator that he's a pedophile to no good
Speaker 3: if they have to write a story like that, you
Speaker 3: know that some bullshit going on, Just like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just say he's just a guy that just
Speaker 4: he's religious and he born in Chicago and he went
Speaker 4: to Peru and now he's the pope. And I was like,
Speaker 4: I ain't got nothing else, what do you do?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 4: He was the cardinal there. He was a cardinal. He
Speaker 4: was a cardinal, the game cardinal.
Speaker 3: I went to School of the Americas and learned how
Speaker 3: to detonate TNT throw people out of helicopters.
Speaker 1: Be so rad if he was just ripped under that
Speaker 1: suite and he just could fucking like fly around and
Speaker 1: kick ass. If he wasn't a pedophile, it'd be great,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. I was interested because there was
Speaker 1: the Pope list, right, and we had hundreds of popes
Speaker 1: or something on this list, and you know, it was
Speaker 1: always like probably bullshit, but they matched all of these
Speaker 1: popes and the last pope on the list was the
Speaker 1: pope that just died. Uh, you know, according to how
Speaker 1: you interpret these things. And so we were supposed to
Speaker 1: be in the end times and there was never supposed
Speaker 1: to be another pope. But here we have this pope.
Speaker 1: So I guess we're all saved. No end times for us,
Speaker 1: thanks Pope?
Speaker 3: Does that count? What is? What is?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: What is?
Speaker 3: What's going to be his his angle? Here? What's he doing?
Speaker 1: If it's like the movie spoiler alert for everyone? Uh,
Speaker 1: he's going to be a tranny.
Speaker 4: Damn. Actually you know don't like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, me and Corey had looked up with what the
Speaker 4: pope does and I was like, he didn't do anything.
Speaker 4: It's like he, yeah, spreads the Gospel and you know,
Speaker 4: sits in Vatican City. I was like, I was like,
Speaker 4: I was like, this can't do anything. It's like, not really,
Speaker 4: he's just there. He just doing Pope stuff. He's just
Speaker 4: doing popsterus, just hanging around.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He walks out and puts his hands up and walks
Speaker 4: back inside. I was like, this prestigious position. I'm like,
Speaker 4: obviously he's got to be doing something of Nate and
Speaker 4: it's like, no, not really.
Speaker 1: I heard he is for open borders worldwide.
Speaker 4: So he's a oh man, yeah you know that. Okay. So,
Speaker 4: so there's a so I want y'all's input on this.
Speaker 4: There's a there's a thing going around. I guess this
Speaker 4: would be quote unquote on the conspiracy side of the community.
Speaker 4: And they're talking about there shouldn't there shouldn't be any
Speaker 4: borders at all, at no point in time. You should
Speaker 4: have to ask people about where you should go, you know,
Speaker 4: where's your homeland all that other stuff. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: so in theory, I understand what you're trying to tell me,
Speaker 4: But in practice, if you don't protect your borders, people
Speaker 4: are just coming there and kill you and make a border.
Speaker 4: I mean said, they just come and take your ship
Speaker 4: and just okay, cool, cool, you you want to be peaceful,
Speaker 4: that's fine. I don't have to be and that's gonna
Speaker 4: make it easier for me to take your ship. And
Speaker 4: we're gonna make this hard now and then we'll create
Speaker 4: the border.
Speaker 3: Who's behind this, Corey?
Speaker 2: What did not say it?
Speaker 1: Nobody heard you? This is also this was so funny.
Speaker 1: But remember when what the fuck did they call it?
Speaker 1: In Seattle? They made their own little city chas and as, Yeah,
Speaker 1: chazz chop that was. That was the first thing they
Speaker 1: did was they made a border and then they had
Speaker 1: security forces. They were like the anti border, anti cop people,
Speaker 1: put up a border and hired security force within their people,
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 3: And then extorted white people for money and then sorted
Speaker 3: might be.
Speaker 4: Right, it was not a lot of a lot of money.
Speaker 1: They had a murder and then they had a rape,
Speaker 1: so like instantly, they just became like the most tyrannical
Speaker 1: country in history within a week, within a week, days days.
Speaker 1: It took them to recreate all the things they said
Speaker 1: they hated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, vegan for vegan pizza or vegetarian pizza.
Speaker 3: Guy out there trying to grow and watering it and
Speaker 3: he was planning it on this cardboard. There's like a
Speaker 3: pizza box and he was like, I've been planning my
Speaker 3: tomatoes seat. And so the guy, this lunatic on dry
Speaker 3: on PCP. This dude comes in. He's just just stomps
Speaker 3: on whatever this guy goes. I was planning the tomatoes.
Speaker 3: I watched it.
Speaker 2: I was like.
Speaker 3: The funniest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: And they were like, just you'd have to be fair
Speaker 1: to us though, we're just trying. We're just at least
Speaker 1: trying something. I'm like, yeah, but that's the point is
Speaker 1: you're young and stupid, and there's people who have thought
Speaker 1: this out much longer than you, and you should probably
Speaker 1: ask for their help because you're young and stupid and
Speaker 1: you're gonna make nothing but mistakes.
Speaker 4: But one of one of my favorite moments is when
Speaker 4: they had the indie got there but I remember this
Speaker 4: to a tea and he was saying, give a black
Speaker 4: person five dollars a day. I was like, five dollars.
Speaker 4: I'm like, we're starting a reparation process right now, cigarettes man,
Speaker 4: give a black person five dollars today. I'm like, the
Speaker 4: damn cheap bastards. I mean, at least give us, at
Speaker 4: least give him some cash. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: some cash, cash ship, you're talking about five dollars. I mean,
Speaker 4: let's talk about you know, one hundred two hundred thousand
Speaker 4: said okay, now we're making some moves, all right.
Speaker 3: Five dollars meant to be an ongoing shakedown. This was
Speaker 3: gonna be five dollars okay every day, Okay, your life.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, realize it turns down.
Speaker 3: Which how long did it last? Do we remember?
Speaker 4: It lasted? It lasted until they went to a mayor
Speaker 4: dirkins place, uh and started making noise in front of
Speaker 4: her house, and he got shut down the next day.
Speaker 4: So I think those three I think it was it
Speaker 4: was either two or three months. That's exactly what happened.
Speaker 4: She was like, oh yeah, then do what they want to.
Speaker 4: They were at her house and she said, oh hell no.
Speaker 4: I mean it was literally like six dues went in
Speaker 4: there with some sticks and ran them off. I mean
Speaker 4: just like that. I was like, that's like, is that
Speaker 4: all that do? Six dues and a couple of batons
Speaker 4: as were scattering flame throwers?
Speaker 3: That would have been how you really teach them the lesson?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Just no warning, just to open up, full full bore
Speaker 3: on flamethrowers.
Speaker 1: I have to sterilize the place. So I covered in
Speaker 1: ship and needles now.
Speaker 4: Yeah needles, yeah, but I mean, well that's how that's
Speaker 4: how it always worked. When they went to ah was
Speaker 4: that an old beetle Juice's house, uh in in Chicago?
Speaker 4: She shut their ship down like that. All of them
Speaker 4: are all good with the protests until they at their house,
Speaker 4: and then the protests got to go, all right, or
Speaker 4: whatever they're doing, it's got to go when it's the
Speaker 4: next day too, like they have some immediate action, but
Speaker 4: leading all the way up until that, you know, you
Speaker 4: can tear up as much shit as you want to.
Speaker 4: And of course this was all off the heels of
Speaker 4: the George Floyd, which gave people agency to tear the
Speaker 4: folks shit up with no consequences. I'm still trying to
Speaker 4: understand that.
Speaker 1: Okay, when we do it, we get to break rules.
Speaker 1: Whenever we like something, it should happen, or we don't
Speaker 1: like it, it should not happen. This is how it
Speaker 1: is to be a leftist. These are the rules. The
Speaker 1: rules are there are rules. It's just what I like
Speaker 1: on any given day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what they talk about mini napot, it's like a
Speaker 4: billion dollars worth, I mean, just and they were tearing
Speaker 4: up their own shit.
Speaker 1: That's a small price to pay for their mental health.
Speaker 1: Remember this was for mental health.
Speaker 4: Yeah, still in TVs mental.
Speaker 1: Health protest actually.
Speaker 4: Doctors and hell and how brazen, how brazen were they
Speaker 4: at the time, stealing the TV and putting recording it live?
Speaker 4: Shit be on, like twet, I I know y'all not
Speaker 4: recording yourself live, stealing the TV. Ain't nobody gonna do nothing?
Speaker 1: And they were right, you're not so staying chronated, you're
Speaker 1: still you're not supposing chrena yourself just in case. Come on, people,
Speaker 1: this is like step one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they were right, though they were one hundred
Speaker 4: percent right. Nobody did anything, It's true. I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 4: I mean but you know, January sixth was the worst
Speaker 4: thing ever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. If you go to on the street who
Speaker 1: were holding Trump's yeah, bad Trump, And like, nobody's getting
Speaker 1: due process for their deportation. By the way, it is
Speaker 1: due process to just identify someone as an illegal and
Speaker 1: then deport them. That's the process and that's what's due them.
Speaker 1: So they're like pissed about whatever. And if you say
Speaker 1: to them, like, hey, what about January sixth, what about
Speaker 1: the people who were put in jail for four years,
Speaker 1: no speedy trial, no due process, you know, just sat
Speaker 1: there festerating solitary confinement, all of this. And they're like,
Speaker 1: well they they should have they tried to take over
Speaker 1: the capital, And you're like, well, I mean they literally didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah they went there with weapons. Well none of them
Speaker 1: had guns. There was no weapons at all. Like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're just a liar. Like they still don't even know
Speaker 1: what happened that day, They have no idea.
Speaker 3: Most people think that Kyle Rittenhouse shot three black guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah dude, like what oh yeah, they still they still doing.
Speaker 1: To real crazy.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting litmus test to see who is just
Speaker 3: passively accepting the agreed upon narrative and who's actually done
Speaker 3: just the barest of minimum of research. You don't have
Speaker 3: to be a Kyle Rittenhouse expert to know that the
Speaker 3: three guys he shot were white. Yeah, you just have
Speaker 3: to know. You just have to read one paragraph about
Speaker 3: the trial and would know that because it's a huge
Speaker 3: part of it.
Speaker 1: For some crazy reason, you can watch the whole thing,
Speaker 1: like the whole Yeah, that motherfucker had more restraint than
Speaker 1: I could ever imagine a person having. I didn't know
Speaker 1: humans could have that much restraint, Like they were chasing
Speaker 1: him and like threatening him, and they had guns for
Speaker 1: a long time before he shot someone within like his rights,
Speaker 1: he could have shot them far earlier than he did.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the fuck Kyle Ritthouse is. If
Speaker 1: he's a CIA plant what, But that motherfucker's got some
Speaker 1: restraint is crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, here's something else that was never brought up by
Speaker 2: either side, which to me is rather ridiculous. If you're
Speaker 2: being attacked by multiple people, only one of them has
Speaker 2: to be armed for you to fucking shoot everybody. It's
Speaker 2: acting in concert. Yes, so I was taught this as
Speaker 2: a kapa. We did drills on them. We did frag
Speaker 2: drills on this where one person, you'd have three a
Speaker 2: group of three guys walking at us. You'd give them
Speaker 2: commands a stop, and they'd stop for a second. Right
Speaker 2: then you tell him to get on the ground. Everyone
Speaker 2: get on the ground, and then one guy would get
Speaker 2: up and you'd have the baseball bat. You tell him
Speaker 2: to get on the ground, and then the other two
Speaker 2: would get up and walk at you, And then you
Speaker 2: had to make a decision at what point in time,
Speaker 2: what do you do you know, right, because they're each
Speaker 2: taking turns stopping and then coming at you, and at
Speaker 2: some point in time you have to shoot all three
Speaker 2: of them and it's completely legally justified. So they all
Speaker 2: three didn't even have to have weapons, but the defense
Speaker 2: attorney didn't even bring that up at all, which would
Speaker 2: have been completely valid defense in the first place.
Speaker 1: And still he eventually somehow got off, which was which
Speaker 1: was good in my opinion, but his attorney could have
Speaker 1: been better apparently.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, ops on the payroll to tell them this ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. So all these all these narratives that they
Speaker 4: got are like they're like so easily debunked, and it's
Speaker 4: just like they're like people going when to take over,
Speaker 4: to take over to government insurrection. I'm like, how many
Speaker 4: insurrections have you seen where folks don't go with weapons?
Speaker 3: The stanchion lines that were like you're going of the place.
Speaker 2: And you was messaging as it was happening. I remember, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is this. I'm like, I don't like
Speaker 2: it's a trap stage stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, do you remember that video that came out
Speaker 1: like pretty early, like within the day or the day
Speaker 1: after or something, and it was so fucking stage. And
Speaker 1: it was like two cops and so so what we're
Speaker 1: supposed to believe is like a third cop is for
Speaker 1: some reason recording instead of like being a part of
Speaker 1: defending the capitol, he's recording these other two cops from
Speaker 1: behind them, and they're all backing up as like people
Speaker 1: come in the door like menacingly, like holding pitchforks or something.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I mean, there's no world in which
Speaker 1: you could get this shot except a movie stage, Like
Speaker 1: there's this is not a real thing. Why would a
Speaker 1: cop who feels threatened so threatened they're backing up from
Speaker 1: the crowd continue to record in a handheld device Because
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a shirt you know whatever, body cam shit.
Speaker 1: This was like I don't know, dude, it was so
Speaker 1: fucking fake. I'm like, who can look at this and
Speaker 1: not just think this is a fucking fake? Holy shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we were talking about the shooting the v
Speaker 4: Ashley Babit. It's like, dude, there's police right behind her
Speaker 4: and the mad is fired. I'm just like, hold on
Speaker 4: the second, something something's afoot here, cause the cops are
Speaker 4: right there, like you're right there.
Speaker 2: You know, what's a foot I'm trying to go back
Speaker 2: and scroll to see our messages we were exchanging at
Speaker 2: that exact time, and my message is with you end
Speaker 2: in March of twenty twenty one. Motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Oh we just commediately, don't know.
Speaker 4: I know, I know where they go, heyta gotta delay
Speaker 4: all the abidence right there, it is right there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I made ale.
Speaker 1: I think that Ashley bad as It was meant to
Speaker 1: make everyone like lose it at that moment and like
Speaker 1: go nuts, and people didn't. I was kind of proud
Speaker 1: of people to be honest, like they didn't fall into
Speaker 1: the trap as deeply as they could have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, don't go to a FED surrection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're trying to tell people, but a lot of
Speaker 1: people went there to tell everyone there, this is a
Speaker 1: fucking setup. You should go or at least don't participate
Speaker 1: whatever's about to happen. I know.
Speaker 3: But that's also what they always say on on dateline
Speaker 3: when Christopher Hansen catches them. He's like, I was just
Speaker 3: going to warn her not to talk to guys that
Speaker 3: she meets on the internet. Like sure, sure.
Speaker 4: Of course.
Speaker 3: About this other chat where you list all the things
Speaker 3: that you're gonna do to or was that part of
Speaker 3: it too?
Speaker 4: Never mind that, never mind that, never mind that, don't
Speaker 4: don't don't look at that. That's just role play. And
Speaker 4: then what you was saying that role play, I was
Speaker 4: just I was doing an exercise. That's it.
Speaker 3: I mean they en Troyer in jail for that, for
Speaker 3: going there and telling people not to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got that. You got pipe bombs that got
Speaker 4: playing it all over the city that nobody decided to deploy.
Speaker 4: It's just like, okay, I mean, I mean we smelled
Speaker 4: a rat, all right, there's all kind of rats did here.
Speaker 4: I think it's obviously staged.
Speaker 2: Trump coming in and pardoning all the January sixth ers,
Speaker 2: all of them like no matter what they were accused
Speaker 2: of across the board. That's and a big message to
Speaker 2: the former establishment of fuck you. That was really a
Speaker 2: major statement that he did. But I mean it was
Speaker 2: profound to say the least.
Speaker 3: Are they all out?
Speaker 2: I think so? I think so too well. I think
Speaker 2: there might have been some who were stuck in because
Speaker 2: of weird things like probation violations and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So there are there are some I think who were
Speaker 2: still in but for somewhat disconnected reasons.
Speaker 1: One of the guys came out was like they held
Speaker 1: me that whole time, telling me that they would release
Speaker 1: me as soon as I agreed to say that I
Speaker 1: was here on behalf of Roger Stone, or Rogerstone told
Speaker 1: me to come, or like they were trying to pin
Speaker 1: everything on him for some reason, or I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: That is that's like under duress. So like you sign it,
Speaker 2: you get out, and then you say I signed that
Speaker 2: under duress, get out.
Speaker 1: I guess he didn't trust that because he stayed in
Speaker 1: the whole fucking time, whole four years.
Speaker 2: You know, I was wondering this about contracts in general, Charlie.
Speaker 2: You've signed a lot of contracts because the real estate stuff.
Speaker 2: If somebody's fucked up on drugs and they signed a contract,
Speaker 2: is that contract noll and void?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Does that apply to like we need things you'd signed
Speaker 2: with the government, like tax forms?
Speaker 3: Again, like, but how do you know where.
Speaker 2: If you admit it, like someone comes to enforce a
Speaker 2: contract you like, I was fucked up on drugs at
Speaker 2: the time, I can't be held responsibility.
Speaker 4: That only works really in a civil war question. I
Speaker 4: don't know I think. I think it really only works
Speaker 4: in civil court, which is where most people want to go.
Speaker 4: They're not really trying to throw nobody in jail there,
Speaker 4: just trying to extract funds. I see that. I see
Speaker 4: that a whole lot with with the what is it
Speaker 4: prenuptial prenupts NDA's stuff like that, Oh yeah, signed in
Speaker 4: a dureus that's sign and asked for the wedding. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I signed. The wedding was already owning, people were already there,
Speaker 4: or I was drinking that day when it happened. And
Speaker 4: and then all I gotta do is civil court. And
Speaker 4: people are like, yeah, that's the story that I believe
Speaker 4: could happen, not that you have any evidence, it's just
Speaker 4: you hap believe that could happen. So yeah, sounds good.
Speaker 4: I'm like, how do we have as how do we
Speaker 4: have civil court steal where you can win with no evidence,
Speaker 4: just the just the thought of yeah that that maybe
Speaker 4: could happen, and that's it you win.
Speaker 3: You can get tied up in lawsuits with no evidence too,
Speaker 3: like people are gonna just sue you for nothing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just yeah, it's like nothing. There
Speaker 4: there are.
Speaker 3: Some cases where the where the judge can of word
Speaker 3: you legal fees. Like if it's a gregious bullshit on
Speaker 3: the part of the other person and you wind up
Speaker 3: going to court and you win because it was obviously horseshit,
Speaker 3: the judge can go, not only do you win, but
Speaker 3: you win your legal fees covered by the other side.
Speaker 3: And of course they do that when when you're up
Speaker 3: against some bullshit, but not every time, right, and and
Speaker 3: and how do you quantify like the amount of stress
Speaker 3: that you're under or money that you've spent, or time
Speaker 3: that you've spent I mean, you know, thinking about it
Speaker 3: or worrying about it or whatever. I could fuck you up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So like, so it's
Speaker 4: it's that it's our loophole. And was this kind of
Speaker 4: it's kind of a similar way with how they paid
Speaker 4: uh was it the mom of George Floyd and all
Speaker 4: these other people? I mean they paid her through civil court,
Speaker 4: you know, gave them twenty eight million. No, I have
Speaker 4: many millions of dollars. I'm just like that, millions of dollars.
Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, what's going on here?
Speaker 1: Dude? Then couldn't I be like, hey, man, I was
Speaker 1: under so much pressure to get a degree. I took
Speaker 1: these loans on. I shouldn't have done it. You should
Speaker 1: expunge these.
Speaker 4: But well you say, they ain't gonna do that, because
Speaker 4: that's that you see now you're trying to suit us
Speaker 4: the government, and that's that's not how this works. The
Speaker 4: way this works is that we destroy generations of people
Speaker 4: and then forty years later we say, hey, did you
Speaker 4: drink this dirty, dirty water in North Carolina thirty years ago?
Speaker 4: If you did, then you know that gave you your
Speaker 4: message the lemia. You know what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Yay, we're offering you something. Now. Now,
Speaker 4: I know the folks that probably you know, got it.
Speaker 4: They probably dead, but you know, and you had no
Speaker 4: way of proving that. You know, they died because of
Speaker 4: this dirty water. But that's okay. They if you happen
Speaker 4: to still be alive and you got this shit, it's
Speaker 4: because we were dumping chemicals in your water for about
Speaker 4: fifteen years straight. So yeah, come on eat you yeah bucks, Yeah,
Speaker 4: come on in here. Yeah. So it's like like that's
Speaker 4: that's how the government handles this stuff, all right. They
Speaker 4: hand they need a little bit of time, okay, to
Speaker 4: get everything together, to kill.
Speaker 1: All the right people along the way so no one
Speaker 1: can prove anything conclusive. Hey, did you hear that Diddy's
Speaker 1: star witness vanished? Yeah, I'm scary' be scary to be
Speaker 1: a witness against Diddy right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think it's scary to be a witness period.
Speaker 4: I'm just letting you know, a witness of anything, all right,
Speaker 4: your swiffle game needs to be immaculate. They're like, can
Speaker 4: I count on you? I don't know if you can
Speaker 4: or not, because I mean, if you know that I'm
Speaker 4: a witness, then they know I'm a witness and they
Speaker 4: might send somebody for my ass. I might sit in
Speaker 4: this corner. I might sit in this corner with my shotgun.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying right there in the corner.
Speaker 3: You want me to against the Clintons?
Speaker 4: Are you serious?
Speaker 3: What is the program?
Speaker 4: Okay? Oh yeah, yeah, somehow you got found. I don't
Speaker 4: know how you got found, right, nobody knows. Some mystery.
Speaker 1: The cameras mysteriously off right when someone acts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you gotta think all these people, all these
Speaker 4: people in the past, like, hey, you're gonna be it.
Speaker 4: You're gonna testify against the cartel. Oh, you're gonna testify
Speaker 4: against these this mom, I don't know anything. Matter of fact,
Speaker 4: you never talked to me. I'm leaving all right there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but hey, it ain't working out. I don't want to
Speaker 4: get involved in that.
Speaker 1: America doesn't care about anything.
Speaker 3: M hm. Did you ever have to take the stand
Speaker 3: like as a testify against people?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But here, let me tell you the biggest scam
Speaker 2: in the world.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I arrested like fucking ten fifteen people a week for
Speaker 2: fucking eight years, and I can count on one hand
Speaker 2: how many actual trials I went to. So how fucked
Speaker 2: is that? Thousands and thousands of cases that once I
Speaker 2: dropped them off at the jail, I never fucking heard
Speaker 2: another thing. Ever, what a wild system that is? You
Speaker 2: think someone would come and double check on their on
Speaker 2: my work? Not at all, No one ever did, not
Speaker 2: one fucking time. So I've testified mostly at hearings. You
Speaker 2: get hearings all the fucking time, hearings for god, everything
Speaker 2: from driver's licenses to evidentiary hearings to like they'll bring
Speaker 2: you to like testify, and like four fucking hearings trying
Speaker 2: to get a case dismissed before it goes to trial,
Speaker 2: you know, and then they'll cut a deal, right so
Speaker 2: it won't go to trial. So you get a ton
Speaker 2: of that stuff going on.
Speaker 1: I always heard you should contest everything because cops don't
Speaker 1: like to show up to those.
Speaker 2: If you don't show up, you're getting fucking in trouble.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what agency you're allowed to just
Speaker 2: not show up for a ticket. If I didn't show
Speaker 2: up for a subpoena, that was a big fucking deal.
Speaker 2: That was a big deal. So you were there. You
Speaker 2: were there no matter what. The thing you really got
Speaker 2: to worry about is like with the traffic cops. They're
Speaker 2: in there every day. I mean, I'm not kidding. They're
Speaker 2: literally in court. They do traffic till like two in
Speaker 2: the afternoon, and then they're in court till like five, right,
Speaker 2: so because they get everybody can test tickets and so,
Speaker 2: but those guys get such a reputation with the judges
Speaker 2: that the judges stop checking their paperwork. Because when you
Speaker 2: get a speeding ticket for like a radar, that motherfucker
Speaker 2: every morning is supposed to take old school tuning forks
Speaker 2: that you like tune a fucking piano with and stuff,
Speaker 2: and tune your fucking radar instrument with it every day.
Speaker 2: And you got to provide proof every single day. Every
Speaker 2: time you go to court. You gotta bring that with you. You
Speaker 2: have to bring all your certifications for your radarsification stuff.
Speaker 2: You have to bring like every case, you have to
Speaker 2: bring a stack of documents proving everything, and so you're
Speaker 2: supposed to go through those in the court hearing. But
Speaker 2: they get so familiar with the traffic guys that they
Speaker 2: just fucking let everything slide. So you get a traffic
Speaker 2: cop up against a judge and he's been both been
Speaker 2: there a while, you're fucked.
Speaker 1: It's such a weird world.
Speaker 3: So if you're fighting a traffic ticket, do you ask
Speaker 3: to the them to ask the officer if he tuned
Speaker 3: his yes radar?
Speaker 4: Doin that morning the documentation?
Speaker 3: If you don't have it, then you go, well, how
Speaker 3: how are we supposed to believe your story here?
Speaker 2: And like laser has to be calibrated like once every
Speaker 2: six months or something like that, and you have to
Speaker 2: have your laser certifications and like all that stuff, and
Speaker 2: you got to you got to go to class. I
Speaker 2: had to go to class for forty hours for a
Speaker 2: whole fucking week to learn how to use a stupid
Speaker 2: radar gun. I'm not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ridiculous, now we know more. My most expensive
Speaker 1: speeding ticket was for going thirty five miles an hour
Speaker 1: in an allegedly twenty five mile an hour posted zone,
Speaker 1: which shouldn't have even there was no actual signs that
Speaker 1: said that it had gone down to twenty five, but
Speaker 1: there was a suggested twenty five mile an hour speed limit,
Speaker 1: which also doesn't make sense because if they're suggesting it,
Speaker 1: then that's not the speed limit, right my mind. So
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I can go thirty here or whatever.
Speaker 1: I was going like slightly over, and this fucking miserable
Speaker 1: bull dyke bitch pulled me over. It just so happened
Speaker 1: to be a national park, even though it's like you
Speaker 1: wouldn't know, you're just driving. It's on the Olympic Peninsula.
Speaker 1: The whole fucking thing's the national park, but you're never
Speaker 1: there's never like a stand or pay to get in.
Speaker 1: It's just all national park. So because it's a national park,
Speaker 1: it's a federal offense. And the speeding ticket was like
Speaker 1: four hundred dollars this is like two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck. I was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, like, let's be rational. I was barely even
Speaker 1: speeding even if I was speeding, and it wasn't even posted,
Speaker 1: so it's totally not fair. But she just like had
Speaker 1: so much hatred in her heart for all of existence
Speaker 1: that she couldn't see sense.
Speaker 2: So they're all like that. So all of the fucking
Speaker 2: lesbian cops are like that. Yeah, even if they're cool
Speaker 2: I get the station, like out on the road, they're
Speaker 2: just like just monsters to everybody else. So my old
Speaker 2: agency has this girl I used to work with who
Speaker 2: was a lesbian, who was a divorce who had two kids,
Speaker 2: lesbian one of them. And she after years after I left,
Speaker 2: when this trendship became cool, she went trans at the
Speaker 2: department and like the entire command staff like freaked out.
Speaker 2: And they still, from what I hear to this day,
Speaker 2: don't know really how to handle the situation. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: they don't want to put a gun in her hand.
Speaker 2: They're like your metal in their opinion, she's mentally ill. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but they have to jump through the fucking you know,
Speaker 2: all the hoops that we have today.
Speaker 3: Transgenderism was a mental illness by the ho WHO up
Speaker 3: until twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Well, and it's still in the DSM five as a
Speaker 1: mental illness. I believe so, and I think that's still
Speaker 1: the one we're on. I don't think we're up to
Speaker 1: six yet, so they're probably gonna change it in the
Speaker 1: next one, but for now it's still technically diagnosable mental illness.
Speaker 1: I just feel like people like that though, they were like,
Speaker 1: here's my chance. I now own everyone, Like, no one
Speaker 1: can fuck with me. You can't criticize me, you can't
Speaker 1: talk to me like this is my power move. I'm
Speaker 1: trans deal with it, give me attention, whatever.
Speaker 4: It's a hell of a power move.
Speaker 1: It's such a miserable it's so miserable, poor thing.
Speaker 4: Yes, that is. That is rerrendous. It has started to
Speaker 4: start to die down just to touch only a touch day.
Speaker 4: It ain't died all the way down, but it had.
Speaker 4: There's still some people holding on the hope out there
Speaker 4: with that particular movement, but it's uh for the most part,
Speaker 4: it is dialed itself back.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 4: They did trying to sprinkle a little bit of it
Speaker 4: in the in the Last of Us when the cheek
Speaker 4: said that she was going to be a dad. I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, potato, yeah, potato. I was like, I
Speaker 4: was like I said, I was like, y'all didn't have
Speaker 4: to do that, like like like it wasn't necessary, but at.
Speaker 3: All it is in fact, because they have there's like
Speaker 3: stipulations in a lot of their contracts that they have
Speaker 3: to have representation for that for the financing of the
Speaker 3: of the series and things like that, and to stay
Speaker 3: in compliance with like Netflix or whoever is producing I
Speaker 3: don't know whoever. You know, there's certain things that they
Speaker 3: actually kind of have to have that for financing reasons.
Speaker 3: So it's like at the last minutes, like just throw
Speaker 3: that in and then they're like kick the box. We're
Speaker 3: woke retards talking about how women can be dads and
Speaker 3: all that crazy shit, and like that client.
Speaker 1: Ugly enough and weird enough and supposedly autistic now, but
Speaker 1: they had to make her trance to well.
Speaker 4: Our eyes are pretty pretty far apart, but you've got
Speaker 4: some maybe some fetal alcohol syndrome going on in there, like.
Speaker 3: Exposed boom or something. Yeah, But and then they put
Speaker 3: her on like Vogue magazine. It's really, we're still doing
Speaker 3: this bullshit where we put the ugliest people in the
Speaker 3: world on magazines to go, aren't they stundying and brave?
Speaker 3: Oh they're fucking ugly. I know an ugly person when
Speaker 3: I see one, and.
Speaker 1: It's it's but we don't have to pretendliness illegal about it.
Speaker 3: You just don't get to put on magazines, right, That's
Speaker 3: all that. And unless it's like ugly persons person magazine,
Speaker 3: I guessed or something you know then then or Fangoria
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh shit, you don't need to be
Speaker 3: on Vogue on the cover of Vogue with your pumpkinhead.
Speaker 4: Sorry, but I'm saying like that, okay, so so fun
Speaker 4: so like you know, and video game. She was a lesbian,
Speaker 4: so fair enough with that, all right, But I was
Speaker 4: going to be a dad.
Speaker 3: There shouldn't be there should not be any.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, but she was though, Okay,
Speaker 4: I mean, and that's and that's fair enough. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, that's fair enough.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it?
Speaker 4: But she I get Okay, So for the premise there
Speaker 4: when she was younger, like her first love was actually
Speaker 4: a girl, so like when she first started getting into
Speaker 4: her sexuality, it was like her best friend and then
Speaker 4: you know, they kind of like made out and then
Speaker 4: her best friend got bit. She got be it. Her
Speaker 4: best friend turned she didn't. That's when she found out
Speaker 4: that she was a mean so she had to shoot
Speaker 4: her quote unquote like first love. Yeah, yeah, so that's
Speaker 4: that's the premise of it. So she's born to Membi
Speaker 4: to tell me, yeah, yeah, she can be she can
Speaker 4: be not turned a zombie with that with that look,
Speaker 4: she's not yet, probably, And what if it was.
Speaker 1: Real and only fetal alcohol syndrome autists were the ones
Speaker 1: who were immune.
Speaker 3: That was the Yeah, that's the that's the that's the stipulation,
Speaker 3: and then she could be stunning and brave and she
Speaker 3: could be like, we found the solution to being a
Speaker 3: bit turned into a zombie's by being a fetal alcohol
Speaker 3: fetal alcohol exposed, autistic, lesbian retard with a pumpkinhead.
Speaker 1: And you now might be the most beautiful person on
Speaker 1: earth because if they're all this category, like, you could
Speaker 1: be very beautiful.
Speaker 3: Now I love it. I love what this is. This
Speaker 3: is season two.
Speaker 1: This is what they're going to do.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Well look look look okay, so I can overlook I
Speaker 4: can overlook the latest stuff because it's not really that
Speaker 4: big a deal to me that I'm gonna be a dad.
Speaker 4: It's just kind of corny, and this could be very hot,
Speaker 4: Zombie Poe. It was corn corny and cheap, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, I'm gonna be a dad. And even
Speaker 4: how they hooked up for the first time, she comes
Speaker 4: up and tells her I'm pregnant, and obviously she's pregnant
Speaker 4: because she fucked the dude, and then they start having sex.
Speaker 4: I'm like, hold on a seconds, It's usually not how
Speaker 4: this thing works, all right. But the main issue is
Speaker 4: that Ali's like father figure has died, all right, Joel.
Speaker 4: She watched him brutally killed in front of her, and
Speaker 4: she's supposed to be on this unstoppable wave of vengeance,
Speaker 4: this rampage, blood thirsty. If you get my way, I'm
Speaker 4: putting you down. I don't care if you believe you're
Speaker 4: a good guy or not. And you're just not getting that.
Speaker 4: You're just getting a goofy teenager who's figuring out, you
Speaker 4: know how a finger and eat pussy. That's kind of
Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of what they gave you. And
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm looking like in the game. At this
Speaker 4: point in time, Ellie is an unstoppable force of rage
Speaker 4: and everybody's getting killed. I'm talking about hundreds of people.
Speaker 4: She's putting all types of people down. Yeah, And so
Speaker 4: that's what I was kind of looking for. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, I'm about to start seeing
Speaker 4: some folks are going to start getting taken out, and
Speaker 4: it's kind of it kind of ain't went that way,
Speaker 4: and it ain't got but three more episodes this season,
Speaker 4: so I mean, it better hurry up. I ain't got
Speaker 4: the three more hours to get this thing right. We have.
Speaker 3: We had enough zombie movies or shows.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, this is a little different this I
Speaker 4: will say, this is a different adaptation of the zombies.
Speaker 4: I will say that. So it's more of an original
Speaker 4: thought because it's a funk. It's a fungal infection. So
Speaker 4: you actually got the fungus that actually overtakes their brains,
Speaker 4: and you have different species of the actual zombies. All right,
Speaker 4: So they they did, they did take this and twisted
Speaker 4: a little bit. At the end of the day, it's
Speaker 4: all about humanity trying to survive and the things they'll
Speaker 4: do to survive and how nobody's really a good guy,
Speaker 4: which is still boils down to you know what I'm
Speaker 4: saying at the end of the day. But uh, it
Speaker 4: is a little bit of a different rendition.
Speaker 3: Could you be a trems zombie?
Speaker 4: It could well, okay, so so technically not. So you
Speaker 4: just have your different stages. You've got your stalkers, which
Speaker 4: they they retained a lot of their humanistic features, but
Speaker 4: they're actually like creepy because they hide and they stalk
Speaker 4: you pretty much. You've got your clicker who which the
Speaker 4: fungal infection. What it does is that it overtakes your
Speaker 4: eyes because it comes out of your and so eventually
Speaker 4: you have no sight the longer that you're infected. So
Speaker 4: you got the clickers who go distinctly off sound, all
Speaker 4: right to find out sound. And if you touch anything
Speaker 4: that the fungus is on, so any of the fungal
Speaker 4: things on the ground, then it activates all of them
Speaker 4: in the area because they are the fungus is one
Speaker 4: hive mind all right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they called mushrooms talk to each other and like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, all of them hear you and they swarm.
Speaker 4: You, yes, yeap, yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Then you've got the bloaters. Yeah, the bloaters are are
Speaker 4: pure mass that there. They've got so much fungus over
Speaker 4: their body that it is hardened like armor. So you
Speaker 4: try to shoot them, bullets can't penetrate it or anything.
Speaker 4: And they've got pure brute force, so they can bust
Speaker 4: through a brick wall. All right. Uh, and then you've
Speaker 4: got you've got one if you if you're able to
Speaker 4: reach this stage, whether it's one that they call the
Speaker 4: rat King, and that's because it's got multiple humans that
Speaker 4: got bid all at once and kind of grew together
Speaker 4: into this massive like like so you got you got
Speaker 4: your different stages and stuff. But so it's a different
Speaker 4: take on it. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of like the Walking Dead, it's like, okay, zombies,
Speaker 4: but it's more about how humans interact with each other
Speaker 4: in the end times quote unquote or in a crisis.
Speaker 4: This is what this is kind of like too. Because
Speaker 4: you got your warren factions and all that stuff. You know,
Speaker 4: you figure you would come together for this, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, it's an existential threat, but nah, we
Speaker 4: still got factions. I still don't like you, so I'm
Speaker 4: gonna shoot you and take your shit. So it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's what it kind of comes down too at.
Speaker 1: The mushroom, either the mushrooms or the octopi like win
Speaker 1: the whole evolution race, Like they're doing better.
Speaker 4: Than us, to be honest, right, right, which this is
Speaker 4: this is based off. This is based off an actual
Speaker 4: fungus that's actually actually like like this is based off something, Yeah,
Speaker 4: is something real, so, but it's it's insects is what
Speaker 4: it does. Insects comes and eats it, and it actually
Speaker 4: grows out through its brain and it's seends signals to
Speaker 4: go back to the you know, to to the home
Speaker 4: and infect more and it just wipes them out. So
Speaker 4: it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: Super creepy, super creepy, super intelligent, I guess are crazy.
Speaker 1: It seems like they're smarter than us.
Speaker 4: Again, Yeah, well, I guess that's why that that's the
Speaker 4: hardest thing to beat, right, is a fungal infection. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And it's like it's almost it's almost like one hundred
Speaker 4: percent deadly.
Speaker 1: That's why. I don't know if it's always one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: but it is one of the hardest things to fight.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember the X Files
Speaker 1: show episode or it wasard in the movie I don't know,
Speaker 1: but there's a fungus that is essentially airborne and deadly
Speaker 1: and take over the world and they barely stop it
Speaker 1: or something. I don't really remember because it was twenty
Speaker 1: something years ago.
Speaker 4: But well that was the problem, so I said, But
Speaker 4: bringing Eggs Files back?
Speaker 1: I did they did? I watched some of the new ones?
Speaker 1: Or are they doing another yet another new season? A?
Speaker 4: Did they? Oh? Okay, ye're the same, We're the same
Speaker 4: old kay as.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was still because molder and schoolly. I don't
Speaker 1: know if anyone else was in it. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I only watched a few for some reason because it
Speaker 1: didn't grab me like it used to. But yeah, the
Speaker 1: robot episode was really good.
Speaker 3: I never watched X Files and never got into it.
Speaker 3: Well you were a bit older, Yeah, I happened. When
Speaker 3: were you watching it?
Speaker 1: I was like fourteen or something, so it was like
Speaker 1: perfect for me because I was like, holy shit, well
Speaker 1: this is real, you.
Speaker 2: Think because you're older. All I heard was was your problem, grandpa?
Speaker 1: What's your program?
Speaker 3: I would have been twenty four, right, so you're if
Speaker 3: you were fourteen, I would have been twenty four, so
Speaker 3: hardly old. Not old for the world, but just too
Speaker 3: old to be watching watch TV.
Speaker 1: You're out partying and having a life. I was like
Speaker 1: stuck at home watching Xby.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I watched TV through most of
Speaker 1: college because like, who has time for that?
Speaker 4: I didn't. I'm a weird.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch TV in high school at all because
Speaker 3: I was at boarding school. We didn't have that.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah that's wild, that's a different world.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I played video games the whole time. No matter
Speaker 1: what I was doing, I was always playing video games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was your early what was your go to system?
Speaker 3: Because see, I'm like original Atari old.
Speaker 1: We had an Atari. I just didn't understand it because I.
Speaker 3: Was I was like, oh, it was primitive.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: And then we got the Sega Genesis or we got
Speaker 1: the Nintendo. Obviously first I was super cool, but I
Speaker 1: couldn't like all the Nintendo games are hella hard. You
Speaker 1: go back and play Mario even now, like it's fucking hard.
Speaker 1: That's a hard game to play. None of them are
Speaker 1: easy except Duck Hunt and then Sega Sega Genesis. When
Speaker 1: we got Sega CD, it was like everyone was like
Speaker 1: coming over, like whoa dude, because there's like real people
Speaker 1: talking on the screen. It's part of the game. You
Speaker 1: don't control them. But there was like cut scenes that
Speaker 1: were just like movies, and we thought that was amazing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, my my most I'd say, like the game
Speaker 1: that affected me the most growing up was Final Fantasy
Speaker 1: vin all the way nobody here even knows that.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I remember playing. I remember playing. Did I
Speaker 4: beat it? I think? I think I beat it.
Speaker 2: That's like a top five.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Storyline so good, such a good game.
Speaker 4: But had to get that monster. Oh yeah, you had
Speaker 4: to get that monster. Where you got went and got
Speaker 4: that sword? Oh and it was on that island. Otherwise
Speaker 4: you didn't have much of a chance well to figure
Speaker 4: out what was it? What the jacobo? Wouldn't it what
Speaker 4: it was?
Speaker 2: Choke jo any Final fantasies. I fucking hate to Chocobo.
Speaker 1: I love the Choko bus. You have the Final Fantasy
Speaker 1: seven remake and you get to play like ride Choco
Speaker 1: bos It's so good. It's the same exact story but
Speaker 1: in like modern gameplay, which is really fun because I
Speaker 1: tried to go back and play it and it's like
Speaker 1: not fun to play an old ass slow game anymore.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you I never beat Final Fantasy seven
Speaker 1: as much as I loved it, because I got like
Speaker 1: seventy hours in which back then was crazy in any game.
Speaker 1: I was like towards the end of the game and
Speaker 1: I was really really dumb, and you know, you only
Speaker 1: had a certain number of slave save spots. You had
Speaker 1: to have the card and it had like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: fourteen save spots. So we had all these different games,
Speaker 1: and three kids in the house were all playing games.
Speaker 1: So I had like one save spot for my game,
Speaker 1: and somebody saved over it. So I literally like depression.
Speaker 1: I cried, I didn't go to school the next day,
Speaker 1: Like it's ridiculous. It was an actual crisis. So I
Speaker 1: never finished because I was like, I can't fucking play
Speaker 1: this game again. I lost all my shit, all my characters,
Speaker 1: all my progress. So I don't know how Fine seven ends.
Speaker 4: Oh oh, Cory hard Eyes is on Netflix. Now, you
Speaker 4: guys gonna say you want to won't wanting to watch
Speaker 4: that one?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Slasher Slasher fielm the killer did the killer only only
Speaker 4: kills couples, And so there's this, there's two people that
Speaker 4: are just going on a date and it seems they're
Speaker 4: a couple, and so I think it's centered around the
Speaker 4: killer chasing him the whole night.
Speaker 1: I love that. Last week, I think it was I
Speaker 1: told you guys about a show as though it was new,
Speaker 1: and it's like ten years old. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Tom Hardy's a show called Taboo. It's really good and
Speaker 1: it's like ella old. I don't know, it's new to me.
Speaker 1: I I but there's so much stuff.
Speaker 4: There's so much stuff now that that that you don't
Speaker 4: you don't know what's new and what's not because there's
Speaker 4: so much I'm.
Speaker 1: Just being honest.
Speaker 2: Show. It's called The Star Trek Voyager.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys should see it. It's really good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it might be new to you. It might
Speaker 4: be new to you, which I did go watch The
Speaker 4: Thunderbolts today.
Speaker 2: I didn't go watch it.
Speaker 4: It's it's just a it's a I can't say that
Speaker 4: it sucked, but it was just a it's just a
Speaker 4: build up movie like it. The substance of the movie
Speaker 4: is not exactly there. So it's just like, hey, Avengers,
Speaker 4: Doomsdays coming shortly. I mean that's pretty much what it's like.
Speaker 4: It's like, hey guys, this movie is gonna tell you
Speaker 4: some stuff for Avengers Doomsday coming up, and it kind
Speaker 4: of it. It gives it. It gives it away because
Speaker 4: in the end credit scene you see the Fantastic they
Speaker 4: see the Fantastic Four ship coming to Earth, which lets
Speaker 4: you know, in the Fantastic Four they're in a different dimension,
Speaker 4: in a different universe. They're not in the was it
Speaker 4: the six one sixth universe that all of our stuff
Speaker 4: is originally based on what Ironman thano. So in the
Speaker 4: Fantastic Four film, I can tell you right now, they're
Speaker 4: not gonna actually be from this actual universe which is
Speaker 4: voting into the multiverse, and it actually kind of just
Speaker 4: tells you that their universe gets destroyed. Actually, it gives
Speaker 4: the movie away before you even watch it. That's what's weird,
Speaker 4: because you see the ship and I'm like, Okay, they're
Speaker 4: coming from a different Earth, so that means their Earth
Speaker 4: got destroyed, and you know, the Silver Surfer and Galactus
Speaker 4: is in it, so they probably lose their flight more likely.
Speaker 1: So yeah, anybody watching it.
Speaker 4: What's a build a movie? And they did? They did
Speaker 4: task Master Dirty, Well, I guess against Marvel, was like, okay,
Speaker 4: when we did the Black Widow movie and we did
Speaker 4: task Master and made it a woman and made it
Speaker 4: like a character that was hyped by a whole lot
Speaker 4: of comic fans into this shitty character that we just
Speaker 4: threw up there just to have somebody up there. So
Speaker 4: they just shot her in the head within like the
Speaker 4: first fifteen minutes of the movie. I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: I'll say that that a way to end that. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we messed this character up, so let's go in and
Speaker 4: kill it off. That's what they did. They taking some
Speaker 4: chances now with Lee, but that's what I say, So
Speaker 4: Captain America, I will give them this. It kind of
Speaker 4: did like go right off the heels of Captain America
Speaker 4: because they at least did mention it. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know that our president was a Hulk, was a
Speaker 4: red Hulk. I say, okay, what at least you're going
Speaker 4: at least we got some continuity here, as opposed to
Speaker 4: the older movies where nothing really kind of can joined together.
Speaker 4: Because they didn't. They kind of changed their route. But yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just kind of a build up movie as opposed
Speaker 4: to like a standalone feen them where you're going to
Speaker 4: get a whole lot of substance. You get introduced to
Speaker 4: the century in this movie, which you know, I guess
Speaker 4: he could be okay, but you know, the power of
Speaker 4: friendship is what wins the fight, say, which is a
Speaker 4: lot right here recently, the power of friendship winning fights.
Speaker 4: I want to see somebody's head get cut off, but
Speaker 4: you know, I guess we'll have to take the power
Speaker 4: of friendship for right now.
Speaker 3: So go to Saudi Arabia for that if.
Speaker 4: You want that.
Speaker 1: We're friends with them now. They're giving Trump the most
Speaker 1: expensive gift that's ever been given from another country.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Also like a movie about Marvel heroes doing it. You
Speaker 3: can watch a guy who smuggled opium into Riodd get
Speaker 3: his head removed from his body at the town square.
Speaker 1: For a woman who dared to drive.
Speaker 4: Poor kill her.
Speaker 1: You can go to bomb the day and drive. But
Speaker 1: if you can, I'm back, head cut off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the premise. I'll give people more details, uh
Speaker 4: BM beyond the key Thursday it will be it will
Speaker 4: be in tail with spoilers, So lame folks, no.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, uh Corey, tell people things about.
Speaker 2: Yourself yeah, Corys dot org, get.
Speaker 3: Me, Charlie Macroaggressions dot io. I've got seven c's on.
Speaker 3: We're talking about technocracy this week. Oh A good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm Lindsay Sharman at rogueways dot org. You
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