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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of June sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're continuing with Duster, episode four. And now I'm for

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<v Speaker 2>us to say the name of this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so happy you do the names of these

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<v Speaker 1>episodes and up me when I saw that title, He's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>further instructions.

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<v Speaker 2>So this episode of Duster was called Crime Unalyis Velocitis SUPERSONICUSS.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a play on road Runner cartoons, Yes, which

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<v Speaker 2>Jim was watching and seemed to inspire him in some

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<v Speaker 2>way as to how he could get away from the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who is chasing him, whose name is Enrique the Blade.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so because it was a cartoon cartoonishly villainous, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>shooting blades out of his cuffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. So this, this whole plot had to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the fallout from Jim having said that he would work

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<v Speaker 2>for this Mexican boss.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh then he.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he got recruited by Nina instead, So he

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<v Speaker 2>sort of just bailed.

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<v Speaker 4>On that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. I missed that. I couldn't figure out who

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<v Speaker 1>it was that had it in for him. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he made a deal to work for this Mexican dude.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he decided because when he wanted to flee town,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he started to think maybe there was something

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and so he decided not to flee down And.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he couldn't flee town because he had signed the

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<v Speaker 2>agreement to be an informant for Nina right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was he was going to flee because she

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<v Speaker 1>wanted that, and then he decided he wanted to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think she convinced him that there was something

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<v Speaker 1>or something happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>And what the pattern that we're seeing here with Jim

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<v Speaker 2>is figure something out in the immediate moment and then

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<v Speaker 2>deal with the consequences later.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that was a theme here as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that that is hism o, and you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's not well, very effective, but but he has managed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's lived this long for you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>was getting the blue suede shoes to pay off this person,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he had to kill that guy and then

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<v Speaker 2>you know that let blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>Now he's given away trying to give him away.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's given away Howard us his car, so he

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<v Speaker 2>eventually he's gonna have to deal with that problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, I guess that's also his boss's uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>rec heart surgery, recovering son getting clocked by a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. I feel like he's gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I hope so he better. Maybe he can think

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<v Speaker 4>of a story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was quite the cascade of nonsense, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, but it was extremely fun. But yes, when yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Jim and Enrique are fighting by crashing through a wall.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like when you first saw the wall. It

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<v Speaker 2>was in the restroom of this garage in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the desert. It was like see through. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you knew that wall was gonna come crashing down at.

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<v Speaker 4>That wall was there to collapse, there.

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<v Speaker 2>To be busted through by these two as they're fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they just spy a bottle of what was

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<v Speaker 2>it bourbon or something, and yeah, it was like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>put this on paus and have a drink together.

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<v Speaker 4>So that yeah, yeah, I just got.

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<v Speaker 1>To go with it. It was very cartoonish, yes, but enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 1>And it seems like there should be a code of

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<v Speaker 1>honor amongst gentlemen that you you do not attack somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in the men's room. We just finish our business before

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<v Speaker 1>we do our business. Yes, that's but okay, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a moment of vulnerability here that doesn't seem fair.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why parenting tip. Have a parent go into

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<v Speaker 1>the restroom with your child if at all possible.

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<v Speaker 3>You just never know.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know what might be going you don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what might be happening.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be in there with knives tucked in

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<v Speaker 2>their sleeves. Who's going to be in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of a disagreement that you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>What your child is going to touch that you wish

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<v Speaker 1>they had not, and you will not know to sanitize

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<v Speaker 1>them after. I guess you just sanitize them anyway, dump

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle of hand sanitize.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not going to hell that with what was going.

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<v Speaker 1>Down with knife wounds, you know. Yeah, you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to like send your kid in there when people are

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<v Speaker 1>having a knife fight. Wait until they fall through the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you'll be able to see your child from outside

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<v Speaker 2>the rest.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, dear, Oh, yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>The cartoons at the beginning were fun that that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like Jim is seeing his own story in Roadrunner style,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really is not that different from the way

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<v Speaker 1>this show. You know, there's a lot of it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very has a very cartoonish road runnery kind of vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>And as long as he is the roadrunner who gets

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<v Speaker 1>to meat meat and hall ass out of there, then

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he's okay. If the coyote ever catches up to.

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<v Speaker 4>Him, though, it's gonna be trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Meanwhile, meanwhile, we did get another week of a wan.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's still there, Still there. Nice to see you, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, is he going to something? And

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<v Speaker 2>happened to him on the reservation because that's where they go.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very reluctant, and they.

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<v Speaker 4>Just tried to yank our chain with this that we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna worry about him every single week. We know what

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<v Speaker 4>you're doing. We see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop that.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop looking at IMDb. We're gonna stop believing.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're using it because some of the people have Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some people who are gonna be on every episode

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<v Speaker 1>who only have the number of episodes that have been released,

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<v Speaker 1>and some people have all the episode. Maybe it's contractual.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that's a contract thing in Hollywood. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you will put up my client's full number of episodes

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<v Speaker 1>so everybody knows they're a lead, right, Maybe it's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the person who played Adrian Barbo, not

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<v Speaker 2>Adrian Barbo playing the wife of the Yes FBI, Like

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<v Speaker 2>the person who played young Adrian Barbo was listed with

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<v Speaker 2>multiple episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she was on one time, only seen her once. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're messing with her. Yeah, this will be a

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<v Speaker 1>plot point at some point.

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<v Speaker 4>The manipulation of imdbah.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't believe everything you read children. The internet doesn't always

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<v Speaker 2>tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely a parenting tip. Don't parents, don't trust everything you read,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't let your children trust everything you read, only

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<v Speaker 1>what you hear.

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<v Speaker 4>On parenting right, we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Completely trust we have all we are not just making

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<v Speaker 1>it up as we go alone. We know what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, yeah or something. So anyway, so they get

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<v Speaker 1>they get a lead to go to the reservation to

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<v Speaker 1>find something. They figure out that this the guy they

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<v Speaker 1>talked to at the institution last week killed himself, but

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<v Speaker 1>she remembers that he said to follow the numbers, and

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<v Speaker 1>they look at the numbers on the folders or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, wait, this isn't lost. What are you talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers?

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<v Speaker 1>I know we've had enough of the numbers. And they

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<v Speaker 1>wind up finding a place that's in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the reservation, but Awan doesn't want to go there because, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>daddy issues something that we hardly ever talk about on

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<v Speaker 1>this show.

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<v Speaker 4>Do we think it's you know, Oh, I've got an idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's what we could do. Yeah to jj Ebram saying,

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<v Speaker 4>what is.

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<v Speaker 1>The deal, man, Go do something, get some therapy, make

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<v Speaker 1>up with your dad.

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<v Speaker 4>If he's no longer with us. Make up with your

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<v Speaker 4>memories and just move on. How about some mommy issues,

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<v Speaker 4>you know?

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<v Speaker 2>How about some dog issues? I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>can hear that.

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<v Speaker 4>Vincent would like to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so so he's got daddy issues.

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<v Speaker 4>Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course someone has to Yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 1>And Nina does too, I guess, sort of revenging my

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<v Speaker 1>daddy is supposed to you know, everybody's got something, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So they find a videotape. Yeah, that can't be. Were

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<v Speaker 1>there videotapes in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 4>Or maybe it was film, Maybe it was like real

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<v Speaker 4>to real it was it was something buried in the

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<v Speaker 4>the desert for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and somehow they're able to make it come back,

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<v Speaker 1>if only, like like the guy from the Lost videos

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<v Speaker 1>came up and started.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, another connection between those.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, they really like that. Yes, whole idea.

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<v Speaker 3>And also I have no transition for this, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, in terms of you know, childcare and being a

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<v Speaker 2>good adult around children, I feel that Jim, knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>Enrique the Blade was after him, should not be babysitting,

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<v Speaker 2>should not be hanging out with little acute Luna eating

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<v Speaker 2>her cereal. Because this guy's coming after you.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll find you.

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<v Speaker 2>Wherever you are, Like, don't that's so true around her,

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<v Speaker 2>she's completely innocent and adorable. Leave her out beside.

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<v Speaker 1>Later she has to be around later on to bring

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<v Speaker 1>her mom and her mom's friends beer. How would they

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<v Speaker 1>get their beer if she wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and to have her ears covered only for the

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<v Speaker 2>F word. Every other word is okay for them to

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, parents, you know what, see if you can arrange

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<v Speaker 1>a playdate before you have your dangerous meetings about bucking

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<v Speaker 1>a union guy and you know, taking on the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe she doesn't have to hear how rough it

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<v Speaker 1>is for women either. Just just make sent her next door?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a nice neighbor?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? This is this is setting her up for her

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<v Speaker 2>show twenty years from now when she has to avenge

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<v Speaker 2>her mother. That's true for whatever this creepy dude does

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<v Speaker 2>to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the creepy union guy isn't he the one that

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<v Speaker 1>and or for Jim and for her and for Luna

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<v Speaker 1>who is you know, yes, exactly, So yeah, keep the

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't got you know what, that doctor she's dating probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have taken her out for the day exactly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, is anybody trust really exactly? Those two young

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<v Speaker 1>And we also got some the backstory. I know, we

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<v Speaker 1>were clamoring for the backstory of why Nina does push ups, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got it that she had a fiance.

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<v Speaker 4>And he used to do that. He said, whenever you're anger,

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<v Speaker 4>It's got to be easier ways. She tried outquim.

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<v Speaker 2>Deep breathing.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to I at a place I worked, and

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<v Speaker 1>I used to just walk up and down the stairs

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<v Speaker 1>I felt less angry or unable to go on. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there might be apparenting lesson in there

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, find healthy ways to blow off steam. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you do push ups, you're blown off steam. You're also

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<v Speaker 1>increasing your upper body strike. You might need that walk

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<v Speaker 1>up and walk up and downstairs. You're you know, improving

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<v Speaker 1>avoiding doing violence right so or saying things that would

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<v Speaker 1>be difficult to take back more like, yes, you can

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<v Speaker 1>walk up and down the stairs saying those things to yourself. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, So that's a good thing to teach kids,

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<v Speaker 1>is healthy ways to deal with anger and frustration that

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't work by all means.

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<v Speaker 1>Avoid that, yes, And at the same time, for parents,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be yelling at your kids, even though it feels

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<v Speaker 4>I understand, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're mad at your kid and you

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<v Speaker 1>hit the floor and start doing push ups, they are

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Check her out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she looks pretty tough. That's really cool. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>But then of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they'll like just just piss you off to get you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, then again maybe not. But healthy ways to blow

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<v Speaker 4>off steam, Yes I have. I have walked walked around

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<v Speaker 4>the block sometimes when I would get mad at my family.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't do that now because I fall and

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<v Speaker 1>break things, right, so I need to find another stress relief.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was my you know, like COVID gotta go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was like an acceptable, you know, reason to

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<v Speaker 2>leave the house.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I need to not be here right now, so

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<v Speaker 4>so important.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, maybe I'm the only person who does this. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I were to find a package buried understand in

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who put it there. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>I would just be ripping that thing open. Even mail

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<v Speaker 1>that comes to my house, I'm a little conscious because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, who knows what somebody could have done to me?

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<v Speaker 4>How does she know that's not a mail bomb?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just a package of evidence there, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not something evil. Be careful with how you open things,

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<v Speaker 1>and teach your kid how to open things.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if my kids they don't like handle

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<v Speaker 4>mail at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's also like, you know, so old timey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like you see videos or whatever, or you know your

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<v Speaker 2>own kids, like what where do I write the address?

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<v Speaker 3>Where does the stamp?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Yes, I yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that they would necessarily they would need help,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes even I need help forget to it. It's

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's bad, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what we learned from this and lost is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if your dad's alive, go say hi. If he's not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sale litle prayer forgiveness and connection.

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<v Speaker 4>Valuable and if you're if you're.

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<v Speaker 1>A dad, don't do things that are gonna make your

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<v Speaker 1>kid have Daddy issues later, although they could get their

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<v Speaker 1>own TV show. So you know, you got to figure

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<v Speaker 1>all these script writers of Daddy Issue. I'm listening right

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<v Speaker 1>now to autobiography of David Milch, who is a among

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<v Speaker 1>other things, he was a writer for NYPD Blue and

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<v Speaker 1>also more importantly to me, John from Cincinnati. Oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm hearing about his life and going, oh, things

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<v Speaker 2>Clear, make a little sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Daddy Issue.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one weird, one weird show.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one weird show. And I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>the chapter on very much he does, because I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>elements coming into play. But anyway, I'll talk more about

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<v Speaker 1>that on a future roundup.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway you can you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Assume that these aren't coming from nowhere, these plot lines

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<v Speaker 1>that seem to come up over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we will find out more next week. Next Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>it's episode five of Duster and it's called Ravishing.

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<v Speaker 4>Light and Glory. Oh, we have the title for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have the title. I mean, if I MDBs

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<v Speaker 2>to believe, be believed, we have no title, I will

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<v Speaker 2>amend it in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 3>If that turned out to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be compleaved with us before Yes, but so that sounds positive?

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<v Speaker 2>But who else? And we will see you here tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>for our weekly Roundabout roundup.

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