Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of June sixteenth,
Speaker 2: we're continuing with Duster, episode four. And now I'm for
Speaker 2: us to say the name of this episode.
Speaker 1: I am so happy you do the names of these
Speaker 1: episodes and up me when I saw that title, He's like, yes,
Speaker 1: further instructions.
Speaker 2: So this episode of Duster was called Crime Unalyis Velocitis SUPERSONICUSS.
Speaker 2: It was a play on road Runner cartoons, Yes, which
Speaker 2: Jim was watching and seemed to inspire him in some
Speaker 2: way as to how he could get away from the
Speaker 2: guy who is chasing him, whose name is Enrique the Blade.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I think so because it was a cartoon cartoonishly villainous, yes,
Speaker 1: shooting blades out of his cuffs.
Speaker 2: Yes. So this, this whole plot had to do with
Speaker 2: the fallout from Jim having said that he would work
Speaker 2: for this Mexican boss.
Speaker 3: Oh then he.
Speaker 2: You know, he got recruited by Nina instead, So he
Speaker 2: sort of just bailed.
Speaker 4: On that guy.
Speaker 1: That's good. I missed that. I couldn't figure out who
Speaker 1: it was that had it in for him. But yes,
Speaker 1: he made a deal to work for this Mexican dude.
Speaker 1: And then he decided because when he wanted to flee town,
Speaker 1: and then he started to think maybe there was something
Speaker 1: to it, and so he decided not to flee down And.
Speaker 2: Well, he couldn't flee town because he had signed the
Speaker 2: agreement to be an informant for Nina right exactly.
Speaker 1: So he was he was going to flee because she
Speaker 1: wanted that, and then he decided he wanted to do it.
Speaker 1: So I think she convinced him that there was something
Speaker 1: or something happened.
Speaker 4: Yes, and can't remember.
Speaker 2: And what the pattern that we're seeing here with Jim
Speaker 2: is figure something out in the immediate moment and then
Speaker 2: deal with the consequences later.
Speaker 4: Yes, that was a theme here as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, that that is hism o, and you know it's
Speaker 2: it's not well, very effective, but but he has managed.
Speaker 2: You know, he's lived this long for you know, he
Speaker 2: was getting the blue suede shoes to pay off this person,
Speaker 2: and then he had to kill that guy and then
Speaker 2: you know that let blah blah.
Speaker 4: Now he's given away trying to give him away.
Speaker 2: Now he's given away Howard us his car, so he
Speaker 2: eventually he's gonna have to deal with that problem.
Speaker 1: But yes, I guess that's also his boss's uh you know,
Speaker 1: rec heart surgery, recovering son getting clocked by a gun.
Speaker 2: Right. I feel like he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope so he better. Maybe he can think
Speaker 4: of a story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was quite the cascade of nonsense, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but it was extremely fun. But yes, when yes, yes,
Speaker 2: Jim and Enrique are fighting by crashing through a wall.
Speaker 2: That was like when you first saw the wall. It
Speaker 2: was in the restroom of this garage in the middle
Speaker 2: of the desert. It was like see through. I mean,
Speaker 2: you knew that wall was gonna come crashing down at.
Speaker 4: That wall was there to collapse, there.
Speaker 2: To be busted through by these two as they're fighting.
Speaker 2: And then they just spy a bottle of what was
Speaker 2: it bourbon or something, and yeah, it was like, let's
Speaker 2: put this on paus and have a drink together.
Speaker 4: So that yeah, yeah, I just got.
Speaker 1: To go with it. It was very cartoonish, yes, but enjoyable.
Speaker 1: And it seems like there should be a code of
Speaker 1: honor amongst gentlemen that you you do not attack somebody
Speaker 1: in the men's room. We just finish our business before
Speaker 1: we do our business. Yes, that's but okay, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a moment of vulnerability here that doesn't seem fair.
Speaker 2: This is true.
Speaker 1: This is why parenting tip. Have a parent go into
Speaker 1: the restroom with your child if at all possible.
Speaker 3: You just never know.
Speaker 4: You don't know what might be going you don't know
Speaker 4: what might be happening.
Speaker 2: It's going to be in there with knives tucked in
Speaker 2: their sleeves. Who's going to be in the middle of
Speaker 2: some sort of a disagreement that you don't want to
Speaker 2: be anything else.
Speaker 1: What your child is going to touch that you wish
Speaker 1: they had not, and you will not know to sanitize
Speaker 1: them after. I guess you just sanitize them anyway, dump
Speaker 1: a bottle of hand sanitize.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not going to hell that with what was going.
Speaker 1: Down with knife wounds, you know. Yeah, you don't want
Speaker 1: to like send your kid in there when people are
Speaker 1: having a knife fight. Wait until they fall through the wall.
Speaker 2: Then you'll be able to see your child from outside
Speaker 2: the rest.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 1: That's true, dear, Oh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: The cartoons at the beginning were fun that that's sort
Speaker 1: of like Jim is seeing his own story in Roadrunner style,
Speaker 1: and it really is not that different from the way
Speaker 1: this show. You know, there's a lot of it's a
Speaker 1: very has a very cartoonish road runnery kind of vibes.
Speaker 1: And as long as he is the roadrunner who gets
Speaker 1: to meat meat and hall ass out of there, then
Speaker 1: I guess he's okay. If the coyote ever catches up to.
Speaker 4: Him, though, it's gonna be trouble.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Meanwhile, meanwhile, we did get another week of a wan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's still there, Still there. Nice to see you, man.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, is he going to something? And
Speaker 2: happened to him on the reservation because that's where they go.
Speaker 2: He's very reluctant, and they.
Speaker 4: Just tried to yank our chain with this that we're
Speaker 4: gonna worry about him every single week. We know what
Speaker 4: you're doing. We see it.
Speaker 2: Stop that.
Speaker 4: Stop looking at IMDb. We're gonna stop believing.
Speaker 1: And you're using it because some of the people have Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some people who are gonna be on every episode
Speaker 1: who only have the number of episodes that have been released,
Speaker 1: and some people have all the episode. Maybe it's contractual.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's a contract thing in Hollywood. Now
Speaker 1: you will put up my client's full number of episodes
Speaker 1: so everybody knows they're a lead, right, Maybe it's I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like the person who played Adrian Barbo, not
Speaker 2: Adrian Barbo playing the wife of the Yes FBI, Like
Speaker 2: the person who played young Adrian Barbo was listed with
Speaker 2: multiple episodes.
Speaker 1: Like she was on one time, only seen her once. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're messing with her. Yeah, this will be a
Speaker 1: plot point at some point.
Speaker 4: The manipulation of imdbah.
Speaker 2: Don't believe everything you read children. The internet doesn't always
Speaker 2: tell the truth.
Speaker 1: Definitely a parenting tip. Don't parents, don't trust everything you read,
Speaker 1: and don't let your children trust everything you read, only
Speaker 1: what you hear.
Speaker 4: On parenting right, we are.
Speaker 1: Completely trust we have all we are not just making
Speaker 1: it up as we go alone. We know what we're
Speaker 1: talking about, yeah or something. So anyway, so they get
Speaker 1: they get a lead to go to the reservation to
Speaker 1: find something. They figure out that this the guy they
Speaker 1: talked to at the institution last week killed himself, but
Speaker 1: she remembers that he said to follow the numbers, and
Speaker 1: they look at the numbers on the folders or something.
Speaker 2: Like, wait, this isn't lost. What are you talking about
Speaker 2: the numbers?
Speaker 1: I know we've had enough of the numbers. And they
Speaker 1: wind up finding a place that's in the middle of
Speaker 1: the reservation, but Awan doesn't want to go there because, uh,
Speaker 1: daddy issues something that we hardly ever talk about on
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 4: Do we think it's you know, Oh, I've got an idea.
Speaker 4: Here's what we could do. Yeah to jj Ebram saying,
Speaker 4: what is.
Speaker 1: The deal, man, Go do something, get some therapy, make
Speaker 1: up with your dad.
Speaker 4: If he's no longer with us. Make up with your
Speaker 4: memories and just move on. How about some mommy issues,
Speaker 4: you know?
Speaker 2: How about some dog issues? I don't know if you
Speaker 2: can hear that.
Speaker 4: Vincent would like to speak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so he's got daddy issues.
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 2: Of course someone has to Yeah, well.
Speaker 1: And Nina does too, I guess, sort of revenging my
Speaker 1: daddy is supposed to you know, everybody's got something, right.
Speaker 1: So they find a videotape. Yeah, that can't be. Were
Speaker 1: there videotapes in the seventies.
Speaker 4: Or maybe it was film, Maybe it was like real
Speaker 4: to real it was it was something buried in the
Speaker 4: trunk that they can somehow that's been sitting out in
Speaker 4: the desert for years.
Speaker 1: Yes, and somehow they're able to make it come back,
Speaker 1: if only, like like the guy from the Lost videos
Speaker 1: came up and started.
Speaker 2: Once again, another connection between those.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, they really like that. Yes, whole idea.
Speaker 3: And also I have no transition for this, but.
Speaker 2: Okay, in terms of you know, childcare and being a
Speaker 2: good adult around children, I feel that Jim, knowing that
Speaker 2: Enrique the Blade was after him, should not be babysitting,
Speaker 2: should not be hanging out with little acute Luna eating
Speaker 2: her cereal. Because this guy's coming after you.
Speaker 3: He'll find you.
Speaker 2: Wherever you are, Like, don't that's so true around her,
Speaker 2: she's completely innocent and adorable. Leave her out beside.
Speaker 1: Later she has to be around later on to bring
Speaker 1: her mom and her mom's friends beer. How would they
Speaker 1: get their beer if she wasn't there.
Speaker 2: Yes, and to have her ears covered only for the
Speaker 2: F word. Every other word is okay for them to
Speaker 2: say in front of her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, parents, you know what, see if you can arrange
Speaker 1: a playdate before you have your dangerous meetings about bucking
Speaker 1: a union guy and you know, taking on the world.
Speaker 1: And maybe she doesn't have to hear how rough it
Speaker 1: is for women either. Just just make sent her next door?
Speaker 1: Is there a nice neighbor?
Speaker 2: Well? This is this is setting her up for her
Speaker 2: show twenty years from now when she has to avenge
Speaker 2: her mother. That's true for whatever this creepy dude does
Speaker 2: to her.
Speaker 1: Because the creepy union guy isn't he the one that
Speaker 1: Sach set up to kind of be in his pocket,
Speaker 1: So his chances are she's going against him too, Yes,
Speaker 1: which is probably going to be a problem with Jim
Speaker 1: and or for Jim and for her and for Luna
Speaker 1: who is you know, yes, exactly, So yeah, keep the
Speaker 1: kid out of the tone as much as you can.
Speaker 1: Haven't got you know what, that doctor she's dating probably
Speaker 1: would have taken her out for the day exactly, you know,
Speaker 1: had a nice playdate. Although is he trustworthy? I don't know,
Speaker 1: I know, is anybody trust really exactly? Those two young
Speaker 1: fellos in shirts and ties looked all sorts of wholesome
Speaker 1: until they started stealing cars.
Speaker 3: Yep, shooting, shooting people.
Speaker 4: Hitting people in the head. So that's going to be
Speaker 4: another thing.
Speaker 2: But you know, so far, there hasn't seemed to be
Speaker 2: too much fallout for a Jim having killed sunglasses.
Speaker 3: And also what about.
Speaker 2: That cop Donald Lowe? Is like, is he still lingering
Speaker 2: in the hospital? Did we find out?
Speaker 1: We did not hear anything about him, so I think
Speaker 1: we can assume he was still lingering in the hospital.
Speaker 1: And we also got some the backstory. I know, we
Speaker 1: were clamoring for the backstory of why Nina does push ups, yes,
Speaker 1: and we got it that she had a fiance.
Speaker 4: And he used to do that. He said, whenever you're anger,
Speaker 4: you're upset, just to push ups. It'll release the steam.
Speaker 4: It's got to be easier ways. She tried outquim.
Speaker 2: Deep breathing.
Speaker 1: I used to I at a place I worked, and
Speaker 1: I used to just walk up and down the stairs
Speaker 1: from time to time when it just got too much,
Speaker 1: I would just walk down to the bottom of the
Speaker 1: floor and then back up and down and up until
Speaker 1: I felt less angry or unable to go on. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I would walk around the building as well. If it
Speaker 1: was it was not the best place to work, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of opportunities to walk up and down
Speaker 1: the stairs.
Speaker 2: I feel like there might be apparenting lesson in there
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, find healthy ways to blow off steam. You know,
Speaker 1: you do push ups, you're blown off steam. You're also
Speaker 1: increasing your upper body strike. You might need that walk
Speaker 1: up and walk up and downstairs. You're you know, improving
Speaker 1: your cardio vascular health as well as just of not
Speaker 1: avoiding doing violence right so or saying things that would
Speaker 1: be difficult to take back more like, yes, you can
Speaker 1: walk up and down the stairs saying those things to yourself. Yes,
Speaker 1: but yeah, So that's a good thing to teach kids,
Speaker 1: is healthy ways to deal with anger and frustration that
Speaker 1: are not eating, fighting, yelling at your mother. Yelling at
Speaker 1: your mother. Definitely not yelling at your mother.
Speaker 4: That doesn't work by all means.
Speaker 1: Avoid that, yes, And at the same time, for parents,
Speaker 1: don't be yelling at your kids, even though it feels
Speaker 1: so good in the moment.
Speaker 4: I understand, I got it.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're mad at your kid and you
Speaker 1: hit the floor and start doing push ups, they are
Speaker 1: going to be impressed.
Speaker 4: I'm doing it.
Speaker 3: Check her out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she looks pretty tough. That's really cool. I love it.
Speaker 4: But then of course.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll like just just piss you off to get you.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I wouldn't put that past.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then again maybe not. But healthy ways to blow
Speaker 4: off steam, Yes I have. I have walked walked around
Speaker 4: the block sometimes when I would get mad at my family.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't do that now because I fall and
Speaker 1: break things, right, so I need to find another stress relief.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my you know, like COVID gotta go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like an acceptable, you know, reason to
Speaker 2: leave the house.
Speaker 4: Yes, I need to not be here right now, so
Speaker 4: so important.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, maybe I'm the only person who does this. But
Speaker 1: if I were to find a package buried understand in
Speaker 1: a car. I don't know what's in the package. I
Speaker 1: don't know who put it there. I don't know that
Speaker 1: I would just be ripping that thing open. Even mail
Speaker 1: that comes to my house, I'm a little conscious because
Speaker 1: you know, who knows what somebody could have done to me?
Speaker 4: How does she know that's not a mail bomb?
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a package of evidence there, it's
Speaker 1: not something evil. Be careful with how you open things,
Speaker 1: and teach your kid how to open things.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't know if my kids they don't like handle
Speaker 4: mail at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, it's also like, you know, so old timey, you know,
Speaker 2: like you see videos or whatever, or you know your
Speaker 2: own kids, like what where do I write the address?
Speaker 3: Where does the stamp?
Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, I yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know that they would necessarily they would need help,
Speaker 1: and sometimes even I need help forget to it. It's
Speaker 1: just so easy to do everything online.
Speaker 4: I know it's bad, you know.
Speaker 1: I think what we learned from this and lost is, uh,
Speaker 1: if your dad's alive, go say hi. If he's not,
Speaker 1: you know, sale litle prayer forgiveness and connection.
Speaker 4: Valuable and if you're if you're.
Speaker 1: A dad, don't do things that are gonna make your
Speaker 1: kid have Daddy issues later, although they could get their
Speaker 1: own TV show. So you know, you got to figure
Speaker 1: all these script writers of Daddy Issue. I'm listening right
Speaker 1: now to autobiography of David Milch, who is a among
Speaker 1: other things, he was a writer for NYPD Blue and
Speaker 1: also more importantly to me, John from Cincinnati. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: and I'm hearing about his life and going, oh, things
Speaker 1: are becoming.
Speaker 2: Clear, make a little sense.
Speaker 4: Daddy Issue.
Speaker 2: That was one weird, one weird show.
Speaker 1: It was one weird show. And I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: the chapter on very much he does, because I'm seeing
Speaker 1: elements coming into play. But anyway, I'll talk more about
Speaker 1: that on a future roundup.
Speaker 4: But anyway you can you can.
Speaker 1: Assume that these aren't coming from nowhere, these plot lines
Speaker 1: that seem to come up over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: Well, we will find out more next week. Next Wednesday,
Speaker 2: it's episode five of Duster and it's called Ravishing.
Speaker 4: Light and Glory. Oh, we have the title for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the title. I mean, if I MDBs
Speaker 2: to believe, be believed, we have no title, I will
Speaker 2: amend it in the show notes.
Speaker 3: If that turned out to.
Speaker 2: Be compleaved with us before Yes, but so that sounds positive?
Speaker 2: But who else? And we will see you here tomorrow
Speaker 2: for our weekly Roundabout roundup.
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