Speaker 1: Let's talk about two horror things here with Saw and
Robert Ager is doing Christmas Carrol. That's what I put
in because I could put this in these with the guys,
they'll talk about a little bit, but for me, I
don't think they'll even attest that I'm a much bigger
Christmas Carroll fan. This is a weird thing to say,
because I don't have a rankings of the top greatest
fictional stores or pieces of art ever. Of course I
about movies and games, but just like overall, I've not
done that. But if I do, or ever do, Christmas
Carol will be in that list. It could even be
number one. I fucking love a Christmas Carol. Amily gets
annoying me every Christmas because I'll watch a bunch. I
have my go tos that I always watch over and over.
I love the Muppet one. I watched the original, which
is not, well, not the original, which is the Oh god,
now I'm sure I think it is the original, right,
let me pull it up here, he's not. Let's see
black and white. I know it's that one. Let me
see here, Christmas Carol. There's so many here, nineteen fifty one.
Let's see it's the one with what's his name, God,
I don't think that was his name, alstairs Sim maybe
it was. Give me some images here, no, just video clips,
you fucking bastard. Okay, let's go nineteen fifty one Christmas Carol,
and I'm not seeing as much as the other ones
because it's yeah, no, it is, Yes, it's that one
yeah with Alstersim because luckily this year it was on
a streaming service, but a lot of times it's not.
But try to watch that. I'll pick it back. I
try to watch that one every year. But that, I
would say, is the best version. Still great, there's still
like it's a lot more scary than people give it
credit for. Watch the Jim Carry one, watch the Muppet one.
I like watching the Mickey Mouse one. And there's still
a bunch out there I don't haven't seen. I like
watching Spirited. That's like a good play on that. I
love Christmas Carol so much. It's just to me, a
perfect story of drama and love and second chances and
redemption and bitterness and depression and all that stuff. And
plus you get the guys of horror and ghosts, and
I love it. Hits on things of like what if
scenarios and you know, taking wrote A or road B,
there's horror aspects, and that it has the Christmas you
know guys on it. The filter kids would say nowadays,
it's just a perfect that Richal story, just perfect. And
I love many adaptations. Of course, there's some shit ones
out there, but I'm down for them all. But Robert
Egers sounds like he's making one with William Dafoe. I
was of two minds as I talked about them the discord.
This was great news, but also just like ball crushing
news because I we'll see what happens, right, I really
need to see. Because they said that he was making
Pans Labyrinth, and I'm sure that would be scary to
have some horror elements, but I thought, oh, that might
be more family friendly. I don't think he'll do that
with a Christmas Carol. But that was me and the guys.
We've been talking about this for years because I've always
said that like, okay, yeah, there's definitely some like maybe
straight to DVD. And don't get me wrong, if we
did anything, it's straight to vod It's on our Patreon.
I'm not saying, oh, we're big bridges, but I'm saying
there's a difference of like a type of feel to that,
right and a Christmas carol that I've seen that have
done Field used it like horror stuff. I feel like
it's very cheap and schlocky, and it's just like that's
just the gimmick, but they don't really use the essence
of the story and the lesson and the teachings that
happens in there. So we've been to all those for
years and we actually I have the treatment written and
I have part just part parts of the script because
every time during Christmas I want to write it, and
I did write it a bit this year, but even
this year, we are like, yep, that's one of our
Right now, this sounds you're you always get some behind
the scenes footage for tra has told you right now
we got a ten movie plan. I know people might pay.
That's fucking crazy. We're already on movie three and obviously
my twins that create some pauses, so movie three is
gonna take a lot longer, and it's good for us
still to have breaks because we can change up some stuff.
I'd love to get some different gear, et cetera. But
it just kind of helps us with like our planning
what we want to do and stuff, and we have
it all mapped down. There's some other things I have
in that map out. I don't want to say right
now because if they don't come to fruition, like like
this potential air. But one of these was I'm not
gonna say the title gisse we ever used it, but
it was an adaptation on Christmas Carol because that is
in public domain, so easy to do, and it's just
something that has you know, been like close to my
hurt my whole life, and I always wanted to be like,
I wanted to give this a really good once over,
but it with the horror genre, like cause that movie
or that story has horrific things. And that's why I
actually like the Jim Carry one because it really leans
into some of those aspects. But then there's some really
goofy stuff in there. So yeah, that that was crushing
because not saying, and here's the thing. My our story
was you know, quite different, like here's a minis. Ebenezer
Scowge wasn't even the main character per se, but it
still was to use kind of like spirited where to
use certain aspects to tell it in a different tale,
a different era, but using you know, tying all that
stuff together. And for us, it's for me it's like, okay,
I every Christmas I work on that, that's gonna be
one that I if this movie happens, I'm gonna wait
to see this, and then if it doesn't happen, we
may never do this again. I will at some point
do a version of Christmas Girl. At one point we
talked about doing for Geek first, but then we kind
of that transition into us making movies and like, oh,
well we did this, and I would very much like
to make this movie because we have I think a
lot of good variations and just fun spins on the
ghosts and the lessons there and how we get there
and what they're kind of like, what their evolution is
and what inspires them this time. But we'll see, because
like I said, this may it's just a straight retaelling.
Who knows. I don't think it is. And to me,
that's where I'll take up my so like I said,
taking trying to put away my personal stuff, which I
was like, damn it, Like it is one of those
where it's the same thing, like we filmed the movie
and it's it's fine. But there was a movie that
after we finished well we've said it for love, right,
I can't remember what the movie is, and I think
now enough's come out that that's what happens where it's like, Okay,
I think this is different, but I remember it's the
girl from Scream. She like the one that got Fire,
Miss Melissa Breros or whatever she was in a movie
and the fucking log line or synopsis was like, Oh,
that sounds very similar to something we just filmed. Like
I said, luckily, it's different perspective. I think there's enough differences.
But I was like, oh that sucks, right. It just
kind of feels like we have a gray da right,
And I was like, oh, that's why it's great, because
someone else has done it. So that's why I'm hoping
that whatever this film is, it's nothing kind of like
what we want to do, you know, and not that
it's you know, a big thing, because like if we're
so passionate about it, but that sometimes we're just feel
like if you have a good, you know, unique idea,
or if there's a spin off, right, or a variation,
even a Dreanna Crowan, it's like, oh, that's a variation
of a few things, but then it still became our own.
There wasn't anything exactly like that, so we'll see. But
on the end of being a film fan, man, this
is fucking let's and let's say this. Let's say no
matter why, like oh, you know we're gonna you know,
only make nine or replaced with ten or I never
became a filmmaker, take up my my side, man, or
like the filmmaker side looking forward to this top level
like this is for also, I don't know the rest
of the films a decade, but for what we kind
of know now, it's say, up until twenty twenty eight,
next to No. One's Odyssey, Robert Eggert's a Christmas Carol
with wound full of screw rouge. Holy fuck, this is
like ultra level good and to me, like he's done
a lot of stuff that has proven it and not
just because it's my favorite of his, but to me,
the way he handled Noss Frat to I know, it
sounds weird, but that feels like a point in a
point being a Christmas Caroll, like, oh, he can do
this very very well. Whether it's that error, whether it's
the pacing, the story, whether it is the like if
he can bring what he brought to nos Frat to
like the Vampire to some of these ghosts, My god,
that is like and that's why wouldn't you want to
touch another like Core Christmas Carol, Because this guy, he's
gonna fucking knock out the park like we could never
match that like that, this is gonna be I hope
it does happen because I want to see it him.
It doesn't then makes us easier. But man, this is
like a almost feels too good to be true for
me because one of my favorite stories being adapted by
a director that I absolutely love and respect and think
is just one of the best working I get right
now with the variation with one of my fair actors
of all time within aesthetic that I think is just
perfect to update this in that Christmas slot. This is like,
this has all making to be something very special. So
on the Chelsea side very excited for this movie, or
the Chelsea side very excited for this movie, and then
finally tell them about things were very excited for or
a lack thereof Oh Saw, let's end this with Saw.
So one interesting couple of years a where they put
out Jake Saw. I guess it was. I won't even
count that they put out Circle. I think that did
like fed to ment obviously fine to men oftously. I
don't think it had the results that they wanted because
we didn't get more of Chris Rock and Circle and
that was left open, right, So it's okay, well let's
go back. Let's go back to you know where it
all started. Let's go back to Timel Shawnie Smith. Get
Kevin Garrett in there, who directed the second I Saw film. Oh, Spiral,
thank you it is in case it does a spiral, Saw, circle, circle,
something else, but thank you about its sky in the
chair appreciate it. So Spire offsly no matter what it
was called. They didn't make more of those, and then
they do Saw ten. They get lots of the crew
back ends on this very poetic ending, but it's like, well, no,
we're gonna do more, and I would love to hear
the trajectory of you know, they do Saw three D
because the franchise starting to go downhill and they try
things like Jigsaw and Spiral and it just doesn't catch fire.
They do Saw ten, and finally it seems like people
are interested in that and that makes money, and then
they go, well, we're gonna make Saw eleven and then
things just fall apart. Now Asie, you know, watch the studio,
things can fall apart a drop of the dime. But
you just kind of think like, oh, finally, you guys
are kind of winning the day. You've made a little
comeback with here, and you've found a good niche of oh,
we're gonna do prequels with tone Bell before he kicks
the bucket and Saw three rights. But it's for like
a ten twenty year old movie. You should know why
now that's usually the mean and how they do so
many he's dead. But anyways, if you didn't, sorry, go
watch those. But how it gets from MAKESAW ten one
of the most successful ones we've done for a while.
We're making Saw eleven to Shaw Saw eleven shuts down
to we're not making any more Saw films to we're
now sold the rights. I don't think it's sold, like
it entirely owning them, but because they I think they
say just like in partnership with Blumhouse. But I think
it's and this is like even a bad comparison. It's
like the way that how Marvel can make a Spider
Man film with the help of Sony, and even then
if it gets a Sony movie, but Marvel pretty much
makes it. I don't think it even it's that. I
think it's just Blumhouse just kind of or sorry, I
think it's just Lion's Kate is kind of getting a
cut of the money. I could be wrong, but that's
what it sounds like, where it's just kind of like, yeah,
we bought that, we've leased the rights, we're renting the
rights for a little bit. So I'm of a few
minds of this because that means yeah, saw Levin tone Bell,
that's official dead. And it's tough because I've always been like, hey,
I've you know, some people like this thinking some people
don't say I am with Hugh Jackman. They're great in
the role. If they're alive and want to do it, it's
not a complete, just dog shit story movie. Let's let's
make it happen. Tom Bell's Jigsaw is great. He's a
horror icon. That's a fantastic performance and a very fun character.
Uh and if it was, it showed in saw ten.
Having him back it actively makes movies better. The less
and less he was in a lot of those sequels.
That wasn't the main issue, but it definitely you could
feel it, right, So what was I gonna say? It's
going somewhere. But either way, so you lose him and
that that that can be a blow, but there's probably
time for like a a rechange. Oh it's going for
a certain point there, damn it. But anyways, so it's
it's interesting because oh that's where I was going as
far as like I want it. So it's like, okay,
would I rather have you know, no Saw at all
or Saw eleven or Saw a Blundhouse And that's all
like depends also when I can Saw eleven And if
you say, hey, would you really have no Saw all
or another Saw? I'm always down for another chance. I
suppose to throwing in some titles here, Saw Rebirth, Saw
twenty twenty seven, Saw Kill Saigns. Don't don't do that.
Don't do that. You might be right with We might
get just the Saw the same over again, like I
know you did last summer again. It's just like and
it's not cold again. It's just the exact same title.
So you found something that worked, right, You got tone
bil back tell some prequel stuff. But at the same time,
this is where I was going. You were in a
very very tight box. Those movies are always in a
tight box to begin with because they had a certain
time moment to play with. Where they were now is
even more so. And that's something where it's like they
do this twist right of like it's a trap, Like
it's a trap in Saw ten, there's a twist that
kind of reveals what the trap does, which was fine,
But to me, when you play Hell Zip and you
do the whole big reveal, that's all about the twists
and turns and who character was sneaking this and who
was doing that, just doing how the trap actually it's like, okay,
like now we're here for the lore, We're here for
the characters, here for the story at least I am right.
So it's like the twist in the tracks, like, that's fine,
but you could no longer do that with Saw because
you're stuck in with this little box. So I think
that's good. I think you do need to if you're
not doing like even that. If you're asked me, what
should you do eleven or reboot again? Two minds, because
I'd like to see Tom Bell back, But at the
same time, I think taking Topin Bell out of it,
let's say, Okay, he's not coming back, We're just gonna
still use that universe. Even though I still think they
could have done much, much of many things with carry
Always and use Doctor Gordon didn't. That was a layup
for them. When they're talking about how he continues franchise,
it was right fucking there. Don't understand it. I digress.
The franchise overall definitely needs a fresh coat of paint.
So oh, excuse me, Kim Blumhouse do that. That's my big concern.
It's it's you know, it's a fifty to fifty James
want getting back. That's great for him. Not sure he
fell with the franchise because he directed one and then
he wrote two and three and then he's just been
an EP for the rest of them. So he's getta paycheck.
But I didn't know if it was a situation where
because some creators are like, yeah, I made this thing
and they took it off and did their own thing
and cool whatever. I don't fall but I don't do
it video and they don't really care. Or there's people
that like, oh, that's their baby, but they just accept,
like well, it's Hollywood. I gotta move forward. I can't
do anything about it. I'm not in a position right
And even to me, like some of the interviews he
gave about Saw, I didn't tell any something now, it
just sound like he was completely fine with like where
it was, letting it go. Like he didn't say like, man,
i'd really like to like to me at times when
James Cameron talks about terminators, like oh, you can still
feel the love there, and he would like to be like, oh,
in those rights right, where was James Wanton? Saw I
never got that. I was like a great like, oh,
been there, done that, you know. But now if it's
a situation of Blumhouse gets and he's in control, and
maybe it is just like hey you did saw you know,
take it, or it's a case of that Hey, no,
actually I really want this, which is a cool, full
circle thing because that's what put his career on the map,
one of the biggest to me independent movies ever. As
far as like getting a buzz and word out there,
I mean it's a part of the tours, like I
fucking hated all these ones that are doing and that
he can be like the Stewart to stop some that stuff.
That's great too, you know, because he started that with
lew and l and i'd like to see lew andel
like work with him again. But that is the toughest
thing where I guess I'll get to Blumhouse in a
second with a fresh coat of paint. Easier said than done.
For Saw, like that first one, the way it's paced,
how it's revealed, you can never do that again for
someone that's seen Saw, because you're always going to be
if it is even something similar to two guys in
a bathroom and figure stuff out the biggest moments, especially
the big one. We all know, it's very hard to
recreate that or find something similar to evoke that same emotion.
And I think that's why they haven't rebooted, because that's
just like a very tough thing to do, you know.
Like that to me, the first Saw is a independent
horror movie capturing lightning in a bottle, you know. And
don't get me wrong, the sequels were great, but it's
like the monkeys out of the bottle. You can't put
it back in. You can't. That's why it's like you
had to two and three with Jigsaw and then the
rest of them. Jigsaw is always around with flashbacks and whatnot. Like,
I just don't think you can. You can't never say never,
but I don't think you can recreate some of the
aspects that made Saw a viral or big sensation. The
Horn community, right, I think that's been a tough thing.
But James one has said and it sounds like they
would be a reboot. I said, like, oh, if I
ever did someone Saw again, I have to be something
very different, and I look forward to that to see
what it could be. I love sawing them down to seas.
That's where he asked me, oh, what would I do? Like, oh,
let's see it, because you know what, I've had bad
Saws before and I'm still Saw a fan, you know.
So James Wand good for him. That gives me some hope. Blumhouse,
I need to pull up what's going on? But aposys,
who can we get in the Saw movies? Who's done
other James Wand movies? Can we get Momoa's John Kramer?
I don't think we're getting Momoa's John Kramer theirs bubs,
I think because I think he's older now, they've worked
together many times. I'm not old or older, but in
a different sense. Let me see here fifty one. I
think Patrick Wilson would do great as far as doing
his own take. I don't want someone to come in.
That's the other thing too. You can't you if you're
doing a jigsaw, you have to change that character a bunch.
To me, that's like changing everything, changing the origin so
he's not sick. And the thing with Jill and the
kids changing like Adam and Gordon. You can't redo that.
It has to be top level. And even then, to me,
you have to because they missed their chance. To me,
there is a chance to do doctor Gordon carry that on.
They didn't. To me now it's like this is not
at all connected at that now in the world, not
a oh I knew John Cray. Whatever has to be
completely fresh to get new people aboard, right, which is tough.
But Blumhouse, to me, I'm trying to find their current
filmography for the past like five years. It's been very
rocky there for me, quality wise, not talking success wise, right,
because Blumhouse and Jason Blum they do a great job
of hate. We're gonna make this for as cheap as
we can, and not in the sense of like, oh, gee,
actors are cheap whatever. Like I'm not saying they look
to you, but just like they their ideas. Let's make
a movie that has a budget that you know is respectable,
but you can't gaining a profit is much more easier
than a lot of other movies out there, right, you know,
a Superman fin test for whatever. Let's keep it in
a ballpark where even if we just break even, we
can make money elsewhere. And that's a smart thing to do.
So you know a lot of their movies too, Like
that's what I'm saying from business standpoint, that is very
smart that to do that, they turn a profit easy
and move on to the next one. Right. I suppose
if it was a reboot or a remake and have
it had to be similar but then a different twist
than the original surprise, But that's I agree with you both.
But that's the tough thing is everyone's expecting the twist.
It's like the tension's almost gone away because you're expecting
something and I agree on a similar thing. I think
what they need to do. The biggest thing is scale
down again. We don't need you know, people hanging from
a roof and there being ten thousand fans. We don't
need the trap or the ladies turn and like a
pig Oven, they need to go back. I think like
the Saw one to three Trusts, but really Saw one
where she's like, hey, we put this guy in a
room barbed wire and he had to get out and
these slices are sorry it didn't work. I think you
need to desperately go back to something like that. But
with Blumbhouse it is tough because I think it's it's
interesting because they have that formula and it's good and
to me, I was much like the way I am
with A twenty four Neon. Big fans of them early
on because they just like you what they're doing, and
I was enjoying a lot of their movies were Now
I don't know what's going on there, because I don't
want to say that, oh, there's making movies just to
try and quick turn prof of it on the next one.
I don't think it's that, but I will say there's
enough film quality to make it feel like that. And
I think they had a chance where they were the
little studio that could right, and they did, and then
when they got Halloween, I remember everybody included myself being
very excited, like, Wow, Plumbhouse, They've done a lot of
great things, a great thing of horror genres. We're gonna Halloween,
We're gonna Jimmy Lee back Man, We're winning now right right,
m not so much Jason Blum's Slot Factory. And see,
I'm not gonna go that far, but there is part
of that that feels like that, at least some films
feel like that. Wondering, don't be setting me up here?
What is your thoughts on Seana Rook? Fill me in
on the chat. I don't know who Sean Rook is.
Maybe I will want you buy name this is a
point star or something political. We'll see. We're gonna late here.
I'm already later than I should be. But fill me
in hunder again. And then after I finished this topic,
I'll come back to the if it's a real person
or whatnot. That's how to me, it just feels like
of lesser quality. It feels like it is just pumping
up movies for the sake of well, this is cheat
and we can get out there. And that might not
be the situation. Maybe all these movies have and I
bet the filmmakers do, But I mean that from a
studio perspective, maybe they're all looking at them with tons
of passion. For me, it's just because so many have
missed in a row. It doesn't feel like that per se.
It feels even then I'm like, look at I'm not
saying slot, but that's where like, look at the MCU
right in phase five, in the end of phase four.
I'm not saying they're just push out slot, but you
could feel the quality go down because they're just pushing
stuff out for the sake of getting out to fuel
Disney plasts and to get box office proceeds. Right. So
that's why I mean, like, not even slot wise, but
let me look at like, and here's one, and here's
a good example. I can finally say and even this
here right Drop. I think Drop was a very you know,
fun little movie. I think that's one that does not
feel like slop. I think it didn't meet the potential
I was hoping for it when I saw the gimmick
of it, and I don't think it was. It's not
when I really rewatch again, but that was something that
I enjoyed. Wolfman made a lot of sense because Wolfman
was coming off in visible with a man which is
probably there's a time where that's something like like Blumhouse
was putting out horror movies that were in the top
of horror movies or even top of the movies of
the year, like a Visible Man made Best Goal Geeks,
like a nominee. Right, I don't know last time Bumhouse
has done that, But so let's see so this year,
so I'll count drop that that's good but good enough, right,
I don't think that's slow up good performances. I'm really
liking what Meghan Faye is doing. We'll see, but let's
continue these women in the art. I've not seen this,
so I can't be having an opinion. All I've heard
is really really bad things. Okay, so the ones I
haven't seen, I will go that route. Wolfman again, Here's
where twenty twenty five is different for me. I enjoyed
Wolfman actually quite a bit I liked to take. But
that to me, you might say all the traust is hypocritical. Well,
then I'm a hypocritic. I guess that for me is
more Lee one l than it is Blomhouse. But even then,
they the division, right, they help them get the money,
and they fund it, they produced it. So I'll still
count as a win. Right, Let's see Speak No Evil. Yeah,
it's fine, like people, Oh, I got issues with those
movies because I just there's just some stuff afraid. What
was afraid? It was that that AI one? Yeah, so
again I haven't seen that. But not good things imaginary,
not good Night Swim, not good five nights of Freddy's
not good. Even the point where Jason Blum this week
was like, yeah, he tried to be nice, but I
was like, yeah, we understand people's critiques. So this go around,
we really wanted trying to help and fix some of those.
It's like, yeah, you need to say it wasn't great.
Exausist believer. I didn't hate like other people did, but
I I wouldn't call it great, but I thought it was.
It was fine, it was passable. Was totally killer. Oh
not a fan A totally killer? Not no, no, the passenger,
haven't seen that one? Okay, say this red Door Nope,
not good, sick, same thing that has its defenders. I
did not enjoy that. I very disappointed me, Megan. Another
disappointing one for me. The visitor. What was the visitor?
I don't think I ever saw that one. No, I
did not. Vin Jones is in that look at that,
let's see and then Hallo and they them had a
good good That's here's another thing. Bloemhouse movies have a
very good pitch, but the the follow up not there.
We'll talk about Halloween a second. The Black Phone, I
don't think that's sloped. That's just one that didn't connect
with me. Dash Cam. I'll put them in the good
category because I Suffs always tells me good things about
that house. In the bio, I never seen that paranormal activity,
not seeing these Bengo, hell ome boy, this is the night.
The Purge movies is kind of went downhill. Just trying
to find the next one. Freaky. I really enjoyed. That
was good, Like I had a fun time with that.
I'm trying to find one that I loved. Though last
time I could say, hey, I loved and I think
it was that Yeah, in Visible Man twenty twenty. That's
been the only only thing of this decade that I've enjoyed,
which is kind of crazy, like not enjoyed, but like
would put in a love category. Asba says, the Missileman
was probably the one of the highest gros thing that
you're gonna say released in early twenty twenty. Yeah, think
it was. I think it was top ten. That's your
like bad Boy one or run out right. But yeah,
that's the thing for me where I do have some concern.
But my hope is the same way with wolf Man
or Invisible Man, that because James Wand's there, he'll kind
of shepherd it. But I also wonder if that's just
like a good play to be like, hey, we got
James wand original creator. He could be hands on or
he could just like see a script here, pitch yeah,
that sounds good, and go off to make kiss stuff,
which she's fine to do. I'm not gonna hold him like,
I'm not gonna say, well, the next will has to
be good because you said James wants like no, definitely
will like in the future again. But thats and not
being like, hey, you said he was there, but that
doesn't that didn't help us with the callity of it.
So we'll see. I think it's just too because olviously
they have a lot of original ones. Let's see their
upcome film. We got another in Cities film, uh, Soulmate
and Mey and two, which are in the same universe
black Phone two, which I did love that trailer, so
I have oh oh dash Cam, I've never seen the
one I like is Spree Okay there you I take
that up backs bub so uh dash Cam don't know,
but they this is where Bloemhouse has a chance to
win me back. I'm not saying five Nights of Freddy. Uh.
Megan two looks like it could be a lot of fun,
and I'll give that a chance. Could look like it's
like very meme worthy cringe wise, but it's also be
lots of fun black Phone two. Absolutely love that trailer
on the idea, so that could get me finits to Freddie,
I'm not checking out at all, Soulmate. That's in that
universe of Megan, and it's pretty much that Black Mere
episode will our Piggy at Well has a husband played
by Donald Gleeson. He dies and they get like a
robot to replace him. But I'm down for a movie
version of that. And then Lee Cronan doing the Mummy.
That's a big the guy who did Evil Dead Rise, Yeah,
that's a big wins So they have a chance and
now a saw because to me, it's just that when
they had a chance to me evolve, right, they were
the little like because let me try to look, before
they got Halloween, where's the first Halloween, so twenty eighteen,
so before then, like the Purge was when they're franchises,
but they were doing stuff like Truth or Dare and
were creep those are good happy deaf day. I'm make
defender of those. Really split that split and then that's
the thing get Out, Like that's where I remember the
run there on where they did split and then get
Out and evens on the Purge and Hush Mike planning
and hush on Netflix. Like they had some really good
movies early and of course there's some crap in there too,
like Sinister. Sinister's phenomenal, you know, So that's where for
me though, they had these lower budget original ips that
were popping off, and then they got Halloween. And don't
get me wrong, I think financially it did this, but
I think all of us as a studio were kind
of like, wow, you know the little engine that making
these horror movies that are lower budgets. There they got
their hands on the big one. Let's see what they
can do. I thought Halloween was fine, and then the
sequels had even more issues. And I think most people,
even if because I know Spob's are Halloween three defender,
I think most people would say that trilogy as a whole,
not till one film specifically as a whole is not
looked upon fondly. It looks like they kind of stumbled it, right, so,
which is not a great thing. So that's where it's like,
you have some big ip with the Mummy and Saw
coming up. This to me is kind of like a redo.
And to me, if like Megan, I'm not so concerned about.
But if the Mummy and Saw and there's another one
in there, I read where it's like, this is all
kind of letdowns. It kind of knows. I think we
kind of know where Blumhouse is as far as like
a studio and what they're gonna be doing for the
rest of life. And that's fine. It's still business after all, right,
and that's great, and I appreciate that. I guarantee there's
tons of young filmmakers or new filmmakers getting shots that
other places wouldn't get them shot, so that's great. I'm
just looking at this like an analytical level and just
as a fan of like okay, lately, not things I like,
but maybe by the time we get to Saw there
will be that's everything. I will answer these questions. I
was gonna say s pubs as gonna say. Extorsist Believers
sent David Gordon Green Director's Jail, but apparently he released
a Hulu movie Have Been Still last year that I
never heard of. If it's the movie I'm thinking of,
I think it's the movie where he has he's adopted
like his sisters kids or something that express that Exorcist
Believer poster is fucking terrifying, though, David Gordon Green, let's
see film aography. Can I find it? The Nutcrackers? Yeah,
he did do that. Another one that I think it's
like raw and Rondo Males. I really enjoy that. I
like that. The movie is like if you like heartwarming stuff,
I think it works good. If you like Ben Stillery
kind of plays that kind of you know, pretentious asshole.
It's a guy it's about. I can't remember if it's both.
I think it's both where it's like his sister and
her husband dialing a car accident or something, and they
had like my situation, like five kids in like a
big farm. And for me, it's this heartwarming thing of
him trying to He didn't feel like he's good enough
to raise these kids, so he's trying to find a
family to raise them and take them in. To me,
I thought it had a lot of heart in it
and it was a good, like little moment for him
to do something different the director. But that didn't go
good for him, So I don't know what's next. I
think those Halloween movies actually Sis and then Nutcrackers, which
I don't think is I like it, but I think
you andisone didn't like it. It's not reprehensibly bad, but
it feels like, oh, that's a bunch of bad movies
in a row. You're out. I don't know. All right, Hunter,
you didn't fill me in, So now I'm curious. Sean
o'rooke better not be some porn start giving me a
bunch of you know whatever. Let's see Irish journalist okay, uh,
I don't know. I think this is a topic that
doesn't that I would need a lot more. Looks like
there's something to do with a crime. Hunter, you set
me up for whatever I did not want. Like, look
at this first thing. I find Judge Mole's fate of
police offered charge and fatal on duty shooting. Like that's
exactly like, don't set me up for something I have
no opinion because I have no I have no idea
who that person is and no idea what the situation is.
So not the show. I'm sure there's somebody out there
that does that, but not the show. Here, I just
talk about stupid shit, like not stupid shit, but just
you know, break from the real world like Superman and
other people in tights and Saw and Christmas, Carol and
why I'm bitter, you know, but I can't wait for
Christmas Carol. Thank you everyone to tuning in this episode across.
We didn't storm out, made it. There's a whole and
rain everything, prosting you for the next not be boring step.
Mhm