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Speaker 1: Let's talk about two horror things here with Saw and

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Robert Ager is doing Christmas Carrol. That's what I put

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in because I could put this in these with the guys,

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they'll talk about a little bit, but for me, I

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don't think they'll even attest that I'm a much bigger

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Christmas Carroll fan. This is a weird thing to say,

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because I don't have a rankings of the top greatest

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fictional stores or pieces of art ever. Of course I

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about movies and games, but just like overall, I've not

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done that. But if I do, or ever do, Christmas

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Carol will be in that list. It could even be

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number one. I fucking love a Christmas Carol. Amily gets

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annoying me every Christmas because I'll watch a bunch. I

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have my go tos that I always watch over and over.

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I love the Muppet one. I watched the original, which

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is not, well, not the original, which is the Oh god,

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now I'm sure I think it is the original, right,

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let me pull it up here, he's not. Let's see

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black and white. I know it's that one. Let me

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see here, Christmas Carol. There's so many here, nineteen fifty one.

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Let's see it's the one with what's his name, God,

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I don't think that was his name, alstairs Sim maybe

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it was. Give me some images here, no, just video clips,

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you fucking bastard. Okay, let's go nineteen fifty one Christmas Carol,

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and I'm not seeing as much as the other ones

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because it's yeah, no, it is, Yes, it's that one

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yeah with Alstersim because luckily this year it was on

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a streaming service, but a lot of times it's not.

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But try to watch that. I'll pick it back. I

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try to watch that one every year. But that, I

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would say, is the best version. Still great, there's still

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like it's a lot more scary than people give it

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credit for. Watch the Jim Carry one, watch the Muppet one.

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I like watching the Mickey Mouse one. And there's still

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a bunch out there I don't haven't seen. I like

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watching Spirited. That's like a good play on that. I

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love Christmas Carol so much. It's just to me, a

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perfect story of drama and love and second chances and

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redemption and bitterness and depression and all that stuff. And

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plus you get the guys of horror and ghosts, and

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I love it. Hits on things of like what if

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scenarios and you know, taking wrote A or road B,

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there's horror aspects, and that it has the Christmas you

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know guys on it. The filter kids would say nowadays,

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it's just a perfect that Richal story, just perfect. And

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I love many adaptations. Of course, there's some shit ones

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out there, but I'm down for them all. But Robert

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Egers sounds like he's making one with William Dafoe. I

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was of two minds as I talked about them the discord.

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This was great news, but also just like ball crushing

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news because I we'll see what happens, right, I really

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need to see. Because they said that he was making

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Pans Labyrinth, and I'm sure that would be scary to

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have some horror elements, but I thought, oh, that might

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be more family friendly. I don't think he'll do that

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with a Christmas Carol. But that was me and the guys.

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We've been talking about this for years because I've always

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said that like, okay, yeah, there's definitely some like maybe

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straight to DVD. And don't get me wrong, if we

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did anything, it's straight to vod It's on our Patreon.

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I'm not saying, oh, we're big bridges, but I'm saying

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there's a difference of like a type of feel to that,

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right and a Christmas carol that I've seen that have

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done Field used it like horror stuff. I feel like

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it's very cheap and schlocky, and it's just like that's

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just the gimmick, but they don't really use the essence

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of the story and the lesson and the teachings that

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happens in there. So we've been to all those for

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years and we actually I have the treatment written and

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I have part just part parts of the script because

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every time during Christmas I want to write it, and

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I did write it a bit this year, but even

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this year, we are like, yep, that's one of our

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Right now, this sounds you're you always get some behind

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the scenes footage for tra has told you right now

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we got a ten movie plan. I know people might pay.

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That's fucking crazy. We're already on movie three and obviously

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my twins that create some pauses, so movie three is

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gonna take a lot longer, and it's good for us

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still to have breaks because we can change up some stuff.

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I'd love to get some different gear, et cetera. But

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it just kind of helps us with like our planning

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what we want to do and stuff, and we have

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it all mapped down. There's some other things I have

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in that map out. I don't want to say right

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now because if they don't come to fruition, like like

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this potential air. But one of these was I'm not

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gonna say the title gisse we ever used it, but

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it was an adaptation on Christmas Carol because that is

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in public domain, so easy to do, and it's just

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something that has you know, been like close to my

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hurt my whole life, and I always wanted to be like,

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I wanted to give this a really good once over,

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but it with the horror genre, like cause that movie

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or that story has horrific things. And that's why I

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actually like the Jim Carry one because it really leans

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into some of those aspects. But then there's some really

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goofy stuff in there. So yeah, that that was crushing

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because not saying, and here's the thing. My our story

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was you know, quite different, like here's a minis. Ebenezer

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still was to use kind of like spirited where to

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use certain aspects to tell it in a different tale,

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a different era, but using you know, tying all that

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stuff together. And for us, it's for me it's like, okay,

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I every Christmas I work on that, that's gonna be

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one that I if this movie happens, I'm gonna wait

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to see this, and then if it doesn't happen, we

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may never do this again. I will at some point

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do a version of Christmas Girl. At one point we

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talked about doing for Geek first, but then we kind

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of that transition into us making movies and like, oh,

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well we did this, and I would very much like

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to make this movie because we have I think a

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lot of good variations and just fun spins on the

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ghosts and the lessons there and how we get there

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and what they're kind of like, what their evolution is

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and what inspires them this time. But we'll see, because

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like I said, this may it's just a straight retaelling.

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Who knows. I don't think it is. And to me,

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that's where I'll take up my so like I said,

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taking trying to put away my personal stuff, which I

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was like, damn it, Like it is one of those

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where it's the same thing, like we filmed the movie

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and it's it's fine. But there was a movie that

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after we finished well we've said it for love, right,

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now enough's come out that that's what happens where it's like, Okay,

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I think this is different, but I remember it's the

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girl from Scream. She like the one that got Fire,

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Miss Melissa Breros or whatever she was in a movie

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and the fucking log line or synopsis was like, Oh,

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that sounds very similar to something we just filmed. Like

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I said, luckily, it's different perspective. I think there's enough differences.

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But I was like, oh that sucks, right. It just

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kind of feels like we have a gray da right,

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someone else has done it. So that's why I'm hoping

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that whatever this film is, it's nothing kind of like

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what we want to do, you know, and not that

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it's you know, a big thing, because like if we're

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so passionate about it, but that sometimes we're just feel

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like if you have a good, you know, unique idea,

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or if there's a spin off, right, or a variation,

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even a Dreanna Crowan, it's like, oh, that's a variation

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of a few things, but then it still became our own.

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There wasn't anything exactly like that, so we'll see. But

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on the end of being a film fan, man, this

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is fucking let's and let's say this. Let's say no

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matter why, like oh, you know we're gonna you know,

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only make nine or replaced with ten or I never

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became a filmmaker, take up my my side, man, or

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like the filmmaker side looking forward to this top level

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like this is for also, I don't know the rest

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of the films a decade, but for what we kind

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of know now, it's say, up until twenty twenty eight,

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next to No. One's Odyssey, Robert Eggert's a Christmas Carol

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with wound full of screw rouge. Holy fuck, this is

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like ultra level good and to me, like he's done

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a lot of stuff that has proven it and not

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just because it's my favorite of his, but to me,

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the way he handled Noss Frat to I know, it

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sounds weird, but that feels like a point in a

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point being a Christmas Caroll, like, oh, he can do

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this very very well. Whether it's that error, whether it's

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the pacing, the story, whether it is the like if

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he can bring what he brought to nos Frat to

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like the Vampire to some of these ghosts, My god,

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that is like and that's why wouldn't you want to

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touch another like Core Christmas Carol, Because this guy, he's

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gonna fucking knock out the park like we could never

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match that like that, this is gonna be I hope

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it does happen because I want to see it him.

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It doesn't then makes us easier. But man, this is

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like a almost feels too good to be true for

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me because one of my favorite stories being adapted by

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a director that I absolutely love and respect and think

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is just one of the best working I get right

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now with the variation with one of my fair actors

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of all time within aesthetic that I think is just

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perfect to update this in that Christmas slot. This is like,

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this has all making to be something very special. So

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on the Chelsea side very excited for this movie, or

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the Chelsea side very excited for this movie, and then

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finally tell them about things were very excited for or

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a lack thereof Oh Saw, let's end this with Saw.

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So one interesting couple of years a where they put

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out Jake Saw. I guess it was. I won't even

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count that they put out Circle. I think that did

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like fed to ment obviously fine to men oftously. I

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don't think it had the results that they wanted because

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we didn't get more of Chris Rock and Circle and

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that was left open, right, So it's okay, well let's

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go back. Let's go back to you know where it

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all started. Let's go back to Timel Shawnie Smith. Get

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Kevin Garrett in there, who directed the second I Saw film. Oh, Spiral,

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thank you it is in case it does a spiral, Saw, circle, circle,

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something else, but thank you about its sky in the

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chair appreciate it. So Spire offsly no matter what it

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was called. They didn't make more of those, and then

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they do Saw ten. They get lots of the crew

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back ends on this very poetic ending, but it's like, well, no,

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we're gonna do more, and I would love to hear

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the trajectory of you know, they do Saw three D

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because the franchise starting to go downhill and they try

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things like Jigsaw and Spiral and it just doesn't catch fire.

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They do Saw ten, and finally it seems like people

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are interested in that and that makes money, and then

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they go, well, we're gonna make Saw eleven and then

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things just fall apart. Now Asie, you know, watch the studio,

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things can fall apart a drop of the dime. But

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you just kind of think like, oh, finally, you guys

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are kind of winning the day. You've made a little

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comeback with here, and you've found a good niche of oh,

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we're gonna do prequels with tone Bell before he kicks

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the bucket and Saw three rights. But it's for like

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a ten twenty year old movie. You should know why

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now that's usually the mean and how they do so

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many he's dead. But anyways, if you didn't, sorry, go

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watch those. But how it gets from MAKESAW ten one

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of the most successful ones we've done for a while.

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We're making Saw eleven to Shaw Saw eleven shuts down

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to we're not making any more Saw films to we're

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now sold the rights. I don't think it's sold, like

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it entirely owning them, but because they I think they

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say just like in partnership with Blumhouse. But I think

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it's and this is like even a bad comparison. It's

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like the way that how Marvel can make a Spider

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if it gets a Sony movie, but Marvel pretty much

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makes it. I don't think it even it's that. I

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think it's just Blumhouse just kind of or sorry, I

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think it's just Lion's Kate is kind of getting a

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cut of the money. I could be wrong, but that's

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what it sounds like, where it's just kind of like, yeah,

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we bought that, we've leased the rights, we're renting the

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rights for a little bit. So I'm of a few

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minds of this because that means yeah, saw Levin tone Bell,

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that's official dead. And it's tough because I've always been like, hey,

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I've you know, some people like this thinking some people

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don't say I am with Hugh Jackman. They're great in

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the role. If they're alive and want to do it, it's

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not a complete, just dog shit story movie. Let's let's

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make it happen. Tom Bell's Jigsaw is great. He's a

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horror icon. That's a fantastic performance and a very fun character.

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Uh and if it was, it showed in saw ten.

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Having him back it actively makes movies better. The less

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and less he was in a lot of those sequels.

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That wasn't the main issue, but it definitely you could

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feel it, right, So what was I gonna say? It's

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going somewhere. But either way, so you lose him and

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that that that can be a blow, but there's probably

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time for like a a rechange. Oh it's going for

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a certain point there, damn it. But anyways, so it's

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it's interesting because oh that's where I was going as

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far as like I want it. So it's like, okay,

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would I rather have you know, no Saw at all

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or Saw eleven or Saw a Blundhouse And that's all

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like depends also when I can Saw eleven And if

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you say, hey, would you really have no Saw all

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or another Saw? I'm always down for another chance. I

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suppose to throwing in some titles here, Saw Rebirth, Saw

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twenty twenty seven, Saw Kill Saigns. Don't don't do that.

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Don't do that. You might be right with We might

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get just the Saw the same over again, like I

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know you did last summer again. It's just like and

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it's not cold again. It's just the exact same title.

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So you found something that worked, right, You got tone

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bil back tell some prequel stuff. But at the same time,

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this is where I was going. You were in a

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very very tight box. Those movies are always in a

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tight box to begin with because they had a certain

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time moment to play with. Where they were now is

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even more so. And that's something where it's like they

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do this twist right of like it's a trap, Like

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it's a trap in Saw ten, there's a twist that

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kind of reveals what the trap does, which was fine,

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But to me, when you play Hell Zip and you

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do the whole big reveal, that's all about the twists

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and turns and who character was sneaking this and who

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was doing that, just doing how the trap actually it's like, okay,

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like now we're here for the lore, We're here for

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the characters, here for the story at least I am right.

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So it's like the twist in the tracks, like, that's fine,

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but you could no longer do that with Saw because

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you're stuck in with this little box. So I think

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that's good. I think you do need to if you're

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not doing like even that. If you're asked me, what

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should you do eleven or reboot again? Two minds, because

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I'd like to see Tom Bell back, But at the

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same time, I think taking Topin Bell out of it,

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let's say, Okay, he's not coming back, We're just gonna

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still use that universe. Even though I still think they

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could have done much, much of many things with carry

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Always and use Doctor Gordon didn't. That was a layup

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for them. When they're talking about how he continues franchise,

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it was right fucking there. Don't understand it. I digress.

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The franchise overall definitely needs a fresh coat of paint.

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So oh, excuse me, Kim Blumhouse do that. That's my big concern.

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It's it's you know, it's a fifty to fifty James

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want getting back. That's great for him. Not sure he

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fell with the franchise because he directed one and then

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he wrote two and three and then he's just been

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an EP for the rest of them. So he's getta paycheck.

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But I didn't know if it was a situation where

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because some creators are like, yeah, I made this thing

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and they took it off and did their own thing

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and cool whatever. I don't fall but I don't do

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it video and they don't really care. Or there's people

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that like, oh, that's their baby, but they just accept,

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like well, it's Hollywood. I gotta move forward. I can't

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do anything about it. I'm not in a position right

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And even to me, like some of the interviews he

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gave about Saw, I didn't tell any something now, it

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just sound like he was completely fine with like where

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it was, letting it go. Like he didn't say like, man,

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i'd really like to like to me at times when

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James Cameron talks about terminators, like oh, you can still

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feel the love there, and he would like to be like, oh,

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in those rights right, where was James Wanton? Saw I

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never got that. I was like a great like, oh,

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been there, done that, you know. But now if it's

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a situation of Blumhouse gets and he's in control, and

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maybe it is just like hey you did saw you know,

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take it, or it's a case of that Hey, no,

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actually I really want this, which is a cool, full

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circle thing because that's what put his career on the map,

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one of the biggest to me independent movies ever. As

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far as like getting a buzz and word out there,

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I mean it's a part of the tours, like I

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fucking hated all these ones that are doing and that

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he can be like the Stewart to stop some that stuff.

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That's great too, you know, because he started that with

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lew and l and i'd like to see lew andel

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like work with him again. But that is the toughest

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thing where I guess I'll get to Blumhouse in a

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second with a fresh coat of paint. Easier said than done.

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For Saw, like that first one, the way it's paced,

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how it's revealed, you can never do that again for

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someone that's seen Saw, because you're always going to be

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if it is even something similar to two guys in

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a bathroom and figure stuff out the biggest moments, especially

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the big one. We all know, it's very hard to

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recreate that or find something similar to evoke that same emotion.

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And I think that's why they haven't rebooted, because that's

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just like a very tough thing to do, you know.

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Like that to me, the first Saw is a independent

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horror movie capturing lightning in a bottle, you know. And

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don't get me wrong, the sequels were great, but it's

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like the monkeys out of the bottle. You can't put

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it back in. You can't. That's why it's like you

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had to two and three with Jigsaw and then the

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rest of them. Jigsaw is always around with flashbacks and whatnot. Like,

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I just don't think you can. You can't never say never,

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but I don't think you can recreate some of the

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aspects that made Saw a viral or big sensation. The

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Horn community, right, I think that's been a tough thing.

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But James one has said and it sounds like they

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would be a reboot. I said, like, oh, if I

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ever did someone Saw again, I have to be something

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very different, and I look forward to that to see

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what it could be. I love sawing them down to seas.

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That's where he asked me, oh, what would I do? Like, oh,

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let's see it, because you know what, I've had bad

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Saws before and I'm still Saw a fan, you know.

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So James Wand good for him. That gives me some hope. Blumhouse,

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I need to pull up what's going on? But aposys,

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who can we get in the Saw movies? Who's done

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other James Wand movies? Can we get Momoa's John Kramer?

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I don't think we're getting Momoa's John Kramer theirs bubs,

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I think because I think he's older now, they've worked

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together many times. I'm not old or older, but in

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a different sense. Let me see here fifty one. I

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think Patrick Wilson would do great as far as doing

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his own take. I don't want someone to come in.

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That's the other thing too. You can't you if you're

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doing a jigsaw, you have to change that character a bunch.

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To me, that's like changing everything, changing the origin so

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he's not sick. And the thing with Jill and the

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kids changing like Adam and Gordon. You can't redo that.

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It has to be top level. And even then, to me,

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you have to because they missed their chance. To me,

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there is a chance to do doctor Gordon carry that on.

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They didn't. To me now it's like this is not

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at all connected at that now in the world, not

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a oh I knew John Cray. Whatever has to be

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completely fresh to get new people aboard, right, which is tough.

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But Blumhouse, to me, I'm trying to find their current

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filmography for the past like five years. It's been very

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rocky there for me, quality wise, not talking success wise, right,

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because Blumhouse and Jason Blum they do a great job

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of hate. We're gonna make this for as cheap as

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we can, and not in the sense of like, oh, gee,

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actors are cheap whatever. Like I'm not saying they look

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to you, but just like they their ideas. Let's make

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a movie that has a budget that you know is respectable,

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but you can't gaining a profit is much more easier

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than a lot of other movies out there, right, you know,

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a Superman fin test for whatever. Let's keep it in

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a ballpark where even if we just break even, we

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can make money elsewhere. And that's a smart thing to do.

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So you know a lot of their movies too, Like

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that's what I'm saying from business standpoint, that is very

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smart that to do that, they turn a profit easy

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and move on to the next one. Right. I suppose

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if it was a reboot or a remake and have

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it had to be similar but then a different twist

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than the original surprise, But that's I agree with you both.

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But that's the tough thing is everyone's expecting the twist.

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It's like the tension's almost gone away because you're expecting

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something and I agree on a similar thing. I think

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what they need to do. The biggest thing is scale

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down again. We don't need you know, people hanging from

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a roof and there being ten thousand fans. We don't

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need the trap or the ladies turn and like a

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pig Oven, they need to go back. I think like

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the Saw one to three Trusts, but really Saw one

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where she's like, hey, we put this guy in a

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room barbed wire and he had to get out and

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these slices are sorry it didn't work. I think you

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need to desperately go back to something like that. But

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with Blumbhouse it is tough because I think it's it's

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interesting because they have that formula and it's good and

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to me, I was much like the way I am

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with A twenty four Neon. Big fans of them early

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on because they just like you what they're doing, and

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I was enjoying a lot of their movies were Now

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I don't know what's going on there, because I don't

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want to say that, oh, there's making movies just to

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try and quick turn prof of it on the next one.

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I don't think it's that, but I will say there's

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enough film quality to make it feel like that. And

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I think they had a chance where they were the

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little studio that could right, and they did, and then

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when they got Halloween, I remember everybody included myself being

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very excited, like, Wow, Plumbhouse, They've done a lot of

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great things, a great thing of horror genres. We're gonna Halloween,

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We're gonna Jimmy Lee back Man, We're winning now right right,

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m not so much Jason Blum's Slot Factory. And see,

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I'm not gonna go that far, but there is part

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of that that feels like that, at least some films

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feel like that. Wondering, don't be setting me up here?

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What is your thoughts on Seana Rook? Fill me in

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on the chat. I don't know who Sean Rook is.

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Maybe I will want you buy name this is a

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point star or something political. We'll see. We're gonna late here.

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I'm already later than I should be. But fill me

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in hunder again. And then after I finished this topic,

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I'll come back to the if it's a real person

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or whatnot. That's how to me, it just feels like

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of lesser quality. It feels like it is just pumping

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up movies for the sake of well, this is cheat

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and we can get out there. And that might not

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be the situation. Maybe all these movies have and I

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bet the filmmakers do, But I mean that from a

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studio perspective, maybe they're all looking at them with tons

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of passion. For me, it's just because so many have

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missed in a row. It doesn't feel like that per se.

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It feels even then I'm like, look at I'm not

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saying slot, but that's where like, look at the MCU

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right in phase five, in the end of phase four.

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I'm not saying they're just push out slot, but you

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could feel the quality go down because they're just pushing

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stuff out for the sake of getting out to fuel

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Disney plasts and to get box office proceeds. Right. So

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that's why I mean, like, not even slot wise, but

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let me look at like, and here's one, and here's

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a good example. I can finally say and even this

469
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,839
here right Drop. I think Drop was a very you know,

470
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,720
fun little movie. I think that's one that does not

471
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,480
feel like slop. I think it didn't meet the potential

472
00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:40,799
I was hoping for it when I saw the gimmick

473
00:23:40,839 --> 00:23:42,359
of it, and I don't think it was. It's not

474
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,920
when I really rewatch again, but that was something that

475
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,599
I enjoyed. Wolfman made a lot of sense because Wolfman

476
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,279
was coming off in visible with a man which is

477
00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:53,680
probably there's a time where that's something like like Blumhouse

478
00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:56,000
was putting out horror movies that were in the top

479
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,599
of horror movies or even top of the movies of

480
00:23:57,599 --> 00:24:00,640
the year, like a Visible Man made Best Goal Geeks,

481
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,759
like a nominee. Right, I don't know last time Bumhouse

482
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:08,160
has done that, But so let's see so this year,

483
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,079
so I'll count drop that that's good but good enough, right,

484
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,119
I don't think that's slow up good performances. I'm really

485
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,839
liking what Meghan Faye is doing. We'll see, but let's

486
00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:18,480
continue these women in the art. I've not seen this,

487
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,839
so I can't be having an opinion. All I've heard

488
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,160
is really really bad things. Okay, so the ones I

489
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,079
haven't seen, I will go that route. Wolfman again, Here's

490
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,200
where twenty twenty five is different for me. I enjoyed

491
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,559
Wolfman actually quite a bit I liked to take. But

492
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,559
that to me, you might say all the traust is hypocritical. Well,

493
00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:42,640
then I'm a hypocritic. I guess that for me is

494
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,039
more Lee one l than it is Blomhouse. But even then,

495
00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:48,200
they the division, right, they help them get the money,

496
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,960
and they fund it, they produced it. So I'll still

497
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:56,079
count as a win. Right, Let's see Speak No Evil. Yeah,

498
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,119
it's fine, like people, Oh, I got issues with those

499
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,319
movies because I just there's just some stuff afraid. What

500
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,119
was afraid? It was that that AI one? Yeah, so

501
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,160
again I haven't seen that. But not good things imaginary,

502
00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:16,759
not good Night Swim, not good five nights of Freddy's

503
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,720
not good. Even the point where Jason Blum this week

504
00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:20,440
was like, yeah, he tried to be nice, but I

505
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,119
was like, yeah, we understand people's critiques. So this go around,

506
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,400
we really wanted trying to help and fix some of those.

507
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,920
It's like, yeah, you need to say it wasn't great.

508
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,880
Exausist believer. I didn't hate like other people did, but

509
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:37,599
I I wouldn't call it great, but I thought it was.

510
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,640
It was fine, it was passable. Was totally killer. Oh

511
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,359
not a fan A totally killer? Not no, no, the passenger,

512
00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:50,279
haven't seen that one? Okay, say this red Door Nope,

513
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,039
not good, sick, same thing that has its defenders. I

514
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,119
did not enjoy that. I very disappointed me, Megan. Another

515
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,000
disappointing one for me. The visitor. What was the visitor?

516
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:06,640
I don't think I ever saw that one. No, I

517
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,799
did not. Vin Jones is in that look at that,

518
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:15,240
let's see and then Hallo and they them had a

519
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:18,920
good good That's here's another thing. Bloemhouse movies have a

520
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,279
very good pitch, but the the follow up not there.

521
00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:27,359
We'll talk about Halloween a second. The Black Phone, I

522
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,400
don't think that's sloped. That's just one that didn't connect

523
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,519
with me. Dash Cam. I'll put them in the good

524
00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:33,720
category because I Suffs always tells me good things about

525
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:38,559
that house. In the bio, I never seen that paranormal activity,

526
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,039
not seeing these Bengo, hell ome boy, this is the night.

527
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,079
The Purge movies is kind of went downhill. Just trying

528
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:49,680
to find the next one. Freaky. I really enjoyed. That

529
00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:51,640
was good, Like I had a fun time with that.

530
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,400
I'm trying to find one that I loved. Though last

531
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,759
time I could say, hey, I loved and I think

532
00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:59,480
it was that Yeah, in Visible Man twenty twenty. That's

533
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,039
been the only only thing of this decade that I've enjoyed,

534
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:06,559
which is kind of crazy, like not enjoyed, but like

535
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,759
would put in a love category. Asba says, the Missileman

536
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,279
was probably the one of the highest gros thing that

537
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:13,240
you're gonna say released in early twenty twenty. Yeah, think

538
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,000
it was. I think it was top ten. That's your

539
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:19,039
like bad Boy one or run out right. But yeah,

540
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,839
that's the thing for me where I do have some concern.

541
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:25,519
But my hope is the same way with wolf Man

542
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:28,240
or Invisible Man, that because James Wand's there, he'll kind

543
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,519
of shepherd it. But I also wonder if that's just

544
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:33,200
like a good play to be like, hey, we got

545
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:37,759
James wand original creator. He could be hands on or

546
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:39,839
he could just like see a script here, pitch yeah,

547
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,559
that sounds good, and go off to make kiss stuff,

548
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:43,559
which she's fine to do. I'm not gonna hold him like,

549
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,160
I'm not gonna say, well, the next will has to

550
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,799
be good because you said James wants like no, definitely

551
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:49,519
will like in the future again. But thats and not

552
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,480
being like, hey, you said he was there, but that

553
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:54,279
doesn't that didn't help us with the callity of it.

554
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,200
So we'll see. I think it's just too because olviously

555
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,680
they have a lot of original ones. Let's see their

556
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,240
upcome film. We got another in Cities film, uh, Soulmate

557
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,000
and Mey and two, which are in the same universe

558
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:08,200
black Phone two, which I did love that trailer, so

559
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:12,160
I have oh oh dash Cam, I've never seen the

560
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,799
one I like is Spree Okay there you I take

561
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:16,599
that up backs bub so uh dash Cam don't know,

562
00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:19,880
but they this is where Bloemhouse has a chance to

563
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,279
win me back. I'm not saying five Nights of Freddy. Uh.

564
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,960
Megan two looks like it could be a lot of fun,

565
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:28,279
and I'll give that a chance. Could look like it's

566
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,319
like very meme worthy cringe wise, but it's also be

567
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,119
lots of fun black Phone two. Absolutely love that trailer

568
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,599
on the idea, so that could get me finits to Freddie,

569
00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:38,960
I'm not checking out at all, Soulmate. That's in that

570
00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:41,880
universe of Megan, and it's pretty much that Black Mere

571
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,680
episode will our Piggy at Well has a husband played

572
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,240
by Donald Gleeson. He dies and they get like a

573
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:50,559
robot to replace him. But I'm down for a movie

574
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:54,279
version of that. And then Lee Cronan doing the Mummy.

575
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,839
That's a big the guy who did Evil Dead Rise, Yeah,

576
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,039
that's a big wins So they have a chance and

577
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:03,599
now a saw because to me, it's just that when

578
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:08,000
they had a chance to me evolve, right, they were

579
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,079
the little like because let me try to look, before

580
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:17,480
they got Halloween, where's the first Halloween, so twenty eighteen,

581
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:20,559
so before then, like the Purge was when they're franchises,

582
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,920
but they were doing stuff like Truth or Dare and

583
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,119
were creep those are good happy deaf day. I'm make

584
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,759
defender of those. Really split that split and then that's

585
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:31,640
the thing get Out, Like that's where I remember the

586
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,880
run there on where they did split and then get

587
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,880
Out and evens on the Purge and Hush Mike planning

588
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,440
and hush on Netflix. Like they had some really good

589
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:40,680
movies early and of course there's some crap in there too,

590
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,079
like Sinister. Sinister's phenomenal, you know, So that's where for

591
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:49,559
me though, they had these lower budget original ips that

592
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:53,400
were popping off, and then they got Halloween. And don't

593
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,839
get me wrong, I think financially it did this, but

594
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,640
I think all of us as a studio were kind

595
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,640
of like, wow, you know the little engine that making

596
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,079
these horror movies that are lower budgets. There they got

597
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:06,000
their hands on the big one. Let's see what they

598
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,279
can do. I thought Halloween was fine, and then the

599
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:12,759
sequels had even more issues. And I think most people,

600
00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:15,519
even if because I know Spob's are Halloween three defender,

601
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,519
I think most people would say that trilogy as a whole,

602
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,720
not till one film specifically as a whole is not

603
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:27,640
looked upon fondly. It looks like they kind of stumbled it, right, so,

604
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,440
which is not a great thing. So that's where it's like,

605
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,440
you have some big ip with the Mummy and Saw

606
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:34,559
coming up. This to me is kind of like a redo.

607
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,240
And to me, if like Megan, I'm not so concerned about.

608
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:41,759
But if the Mummy and Saw and there's another one

609
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:43,920
in there, I read where it's like, this is all

610
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,319
kind of letdowns. It kind of knows. I think we

611
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,319
kind of know where Blumhouse is as far as like

612
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:51,240
a studio and what they're gonna be doing for the

613
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:53,759
rest of life. And that's fine. It's still business after all, right,

614
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:56,839
and that's great, and I appreciate that. I guarantee there's

615
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,200
tons of young filmmakers or new filmmakers getting shots that

616
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:02,319
other places wouldn't get them shot, so that's great. I'm

617
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:04,359
just looking at this like an analytical level and just

618
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,079
as a fan of like okay, lately, not things I like,

619
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,440
but maybe by the time we get to Saw there

620
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,640
will be that's everything. I will answer these questions. I

621
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,279
was gonna say s pubs as gonna say. Extorsist Believers

622
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:19,000
sent David Gordon Green Director's Jail, but apparently he released

623
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,279
a Hulu movie Have Been Still last year that I

624
00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:23,920
never heard of. If it's the movie I'm thinking of,

625
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:30,920
I think it's the movie where he has he's adopted

626
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,640
like his sisters kids or something that express that Exorcist

627
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,640
Believer poster is fucking terrifying, though, David Gordon Green, let's

628
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,519
see film aography. Can I find it? The Nutcrackers? Yeah,

629
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:46,839
he did do that. Another one that I think it's

630
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,640
like raw and Rondo Males. I really enjoy that. I

631
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:53,440
like that. The movie is like if you like heartwarming stuff,

632
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:55,920
I think it works good. If you like Ben Stillery

633
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,440
kind of plays that kind of you know, pretentious asshole.

634
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,400
It's a guy it's about. I can't remember if it's both.

635
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,240
I think it's both where it's like his sister and

636
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,960
her husband dialing a car accident or something, and they

637
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,160
had like my situation, like five kids in like a

638
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,759
big farm. And for me, it's this heartwarming thing of

639
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,440
him trying to He didn't feel like he's good enough

640
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,960
to raise these kids, so he's trying to find a

641
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,759
family to raise them and take them in. To me,

642
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:22,720
I thought it had a lot of heart in it

643
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,000
and it was a good, like little moment for him

644
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:27,880
to do something different the director. But that didn't go

645
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,119
good for him, So I don't know what's next. I

646
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,640
think those Halloween movies actually Sis and then Nutcrackers, which

647
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,880
I don't think is I like it, but I think

648
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,640
you andisone didn't like it. It's not reprehensibly bad, but

649
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:40,720
it feels like, oh, that's a bunch of bad movies

650
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,359
in a row. You're out. I don't know. All right, Hunter,

651
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,839
you didn't fill me in, So now I'm curious. Sean

652
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,400
o'rooke better not be some porn start giving me a

653
00:32:48,400 --> 00:33:02,200
bunch of you know whatever. Let's see Irish journalist okay, uh,

654
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,400
I don't know. I think this is a topic that

655
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,799
doesn't that I would need a lot more. Looks like

656
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:19,039
there's something to do with a crime. Hunter, you set

657
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:20,920
me up for whatever I did not want. Like, look

658
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,200
at this first thing. I find Judge Mole's fate of

659
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:27,960
police offered charge and fatal on duty shooting. Like that's

660
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:30,359
exactly like, don't set me up for something I have

661
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:33,359
no opinion because I have no I have no idea

662
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,680
who that person is and no idea what the situation is.

663
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,079
So not the show. I'm sure there's somebody out there

664
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:39,640
that does that, but not the show. Here, I just

665
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,480
talk about stupid shit, like not stupid shit, but just

666
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:45,599
you know, break from the real world like Superman and

667
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,599
other people in tights and Saw and Christmas, Carol and

668
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,039
why I'm bitter, you know, but I can't wait for

669
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:56,480
Christmas Carol. Thank you everyone to tuning in this episode across.

670
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,200
We didn't storm out, made it. There's a whole and

671
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:07,000
rain everything, prosting you for the next not be boring step.

672
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:09,400
Mhm