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<v Speaker 1>KM I am sixty. You're listening to Later with Moe

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>MO and Tuala are off tonight and Monday, Mark Ronner

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in with Tiffany Hobbes and Twala by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>are They're on a cruise, which Tuala. It's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a stretch. I understand for Tuala because like me,

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<v Speaker 2>he is deathly terrified of deep water. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>hoping that we would hear from Mo tonight. I was

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<v Speaker 2>hoping that we would get some maybe footage of Tuala

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<v Speaker 2>vomiting over the side of the boat. But in lieu

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<v Speaker 2>of that, let's just keep moving here. Moe makes interviews

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<v Speaker 2>a regular feature of the show, so tonight I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>one and sue me if I'm a little more nostalgic

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<v Speaker 2>driven than Mo. But, like he says, host privilege, Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to welcome the legendary Bert Ward, who you

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<v Speaker 2>know is Robin from the nineteen sixty six Batman series

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<v Speaker 2>that did nothing short of change all pop culture around

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<v Speaker 2>the world and his grown up civilian identity. Bert is

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<v Speaker 2>a hero to dogs. He runs General Giant Dogfood. Here

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<v Speaker 2>is his official introduction. I'm going to read this, then

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get right to the conversation. Bert Ward,

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<v Speaker 2>the original Robin from the Batman TV series, and his

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<v Speaker 2>wife Tracy have rescued more than fifteen thousand, five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dogs and hundreds of cats in the last thirty years,

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<v Speaker 2>and they created Gentle Giants Natural non GMO Ingredients pet

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<v Speaker 2>food to help all precious pets live longer and healthier.

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<v Speaker 2>Dogs eating Gentle Giants Natural non GMO Ingredients, Dog and

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<v Speaker 2>Puppy food and following General Giants Special Feeding and Care

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<v Speaker 2>program are living as long as thirty healthy, active years

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<v Speaker 2>with a wonderful quality of life. They have also created

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<v Speaker 2>Gental Giants Natural non GMO Ingredients, Cat and kitten food

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<v Speaker 2>help cats live long, healthy, active lives too. Learn more

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<v Speaker 2>at Gentlegiantsdogfood dot com and General Giants Pet Products dot com. Bert,

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<v Speaker 2>it means the world to me that you are here tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello with citizens, honest with you. I'm a little emotional

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I can't tell you how much it means

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<v Speaker 2>to get to talk to you. I still have a

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<v Speaker 2>photo that you signed for me when I was like

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<v Speaker 2>seven years old at a kmart in Spokane, Washington, and

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<v Speaker 2>I boggles my mind. How many of these things you

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<v Speaker 2>must have done over the last half centuries, signings, conventions.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you still do a lot of that stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I did over seven thousand personal appearances and signed

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<v Speaker 3>more than eight and a half million autographs, So that's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of autography.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I can't even conceive of that. So

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<v Speaker 2>they've got to have run the range from like I

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<v Speaker 2>remember when I met you as a child, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a winter and kind kind of a cricket situation. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was the only one there. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, you guys were like Beatles in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>It had you have had to have situations where it's

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<v Speaker 2>like Tom Jones panty throwing deals.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, I wouldn't go that far, but I would

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<v Speaker 3>say that we had an enormous audience on Batman. When

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<v Speaker 3>we aired on January twelfth, nineteen sixty six, there were

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<v Speaker 3>more than four hundred million people that first week. In

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<v Speaker 3>subsequent weeks that watch Batman, we had a fifty five share,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning that of all the televisions on in North America

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<v Speaker 3>that's Mexico, the US, and Canada, that's fifty five percent

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<v Speaker 3>were watching Batman.

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<v Speaker 2>That's incomprehensible. Now, most people don't understand that that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>exist in today's fragmented TV environment. Nobody has gotten a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five share in most people's lifetimes at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, and not only that, but even the Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl doesn't get that kind of a share. So, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the whole Batman thing, it was such a

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<v Speaker 3>wonderful show. There was something for everybody. For kids, it

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<v Speaker 3>was the hero worship. I mean, who wouldn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be writing in the batmobile, chasing Tenus Villain's climbing walls, right,

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<v Speaker 3>who wouldn't want to do that? And yet for the

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<v Speaker 3>adults it was nostalgia of the comic book. And for

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<v Speaker 3>the teenagers and the college kids, that was a period

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<v Speaker 3>in the sixties when hey, they didn't even want to

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<v Speaker 3>watch television. They want to cruise around the Friday and

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday nights, you know, the outdoor restaurants and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But we pulled them in because of our campy style.

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<v Speaker 3>We used to say that we put on our tights

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<v Speaker 3>to put on the world. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people generally understand that the show means

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<v Speaker 2>I of course loved it when it was in reruns,

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<v Speaker 2>as I wasn't able to see it when it was

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<v Speaker 2>first run. But when I was a like three, four

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<v Speaker 2>or five year old kid, of course I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>But then later on as an adult, I saw just

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<v Speaker 2>the brilliance of the humor. And I spend a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time trying to explain to people here just how

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant the show was, how it actually saved the Batman comics,

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<v Speaker 2>how it's its own hilarious thing, and all these dark,

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<v Speaker 2>serious Batman movies and shows they can coexist with Batman

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<v Speaker 2>sixty six. What's your perception of all that over the

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<v Speaker 2>years as it sort of waxed and waned and waxed again.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me just tell you, if it wasn't for

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<v Speaker 3>our Batman, I'm not sure you'd have all these superhero movies.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, there's one thing that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people don't know, it really kind of sophisticated, that is

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<v Speaker 3>in every superhero movie and in every action movie made today,

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<v Speaker 3>something that Adam and I started back in nineteen sixty six.

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<v Speaker 3>And let me tell you what it is. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a particular scene in a warehouse. We were looking for

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<v Speaker 3>the Joker, and all of a sudden, out of the

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<v Speaker 3>blue hair all these like eight different villains, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a henchman showed up and they're wan to fight with us,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I mean it's very threatening, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>I had this line to Batman, I said, got Batman,

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<v Speaker 3>there's eight of them against two of us, odds in

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly don't think that you get enough credit for

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<v Speaker 2>how hilariously funny you were on the show. On what

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<v Speaker 2>a really gifted comic actor you were. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was taken for granted more than it should have been.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean when I see your delivery at things like Robin,

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<v Speaker 2>when is a door not a door? And you say

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<v Speaker 2>when it's a jar? Nobody could have done that like you.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was a lot of fun doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I had just said in terms of even

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<v Speaker 3>look at today's movies, all action movies, right in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the most dangerous parts, there's always a moment

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<v Speaker 3>where the two sleeds will turn to the other and

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<v Speaker 3>have some comic thing where they say something funny to

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<v Speaker 3>break you know, the energy, and yet didn't go back.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's something that is used in all of the

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<v Speaker 3>feature films today that what we ended up creating back

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen sixty six.

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to go even further than that and

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<v Speaker 2>suggest that there is a straight line between what you

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<v Speaker 2>guys did in Batman sixty six and the Deadpool movies

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<v Speaker 2>that are so popular right now. And I think you

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<v Speaker 2>were ahead of your time. Have you thought about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know, and it's wonderful. Look, you know, let

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<v Speaker 3>me tell you what we did with great family entertainment,

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<v Speaker 3>what Warner Brothers has done with the superheroes, and Marvel

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<v Speaker 3>has done they it's fabulous as well. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 3>room for everybody. People are they do love action films,

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<v Speaker 3>and they love heroes, and they you know, the whole

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<v Speaker 3>concept is entertainment. It's something that you want to escape.

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<v Speaker 3>It's bigger than life. It's something that we all can feel,

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<v Speaker 3>even in our own world, if you know what I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I do.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break right now and

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<v Speaker 2>we come back. We're going to talk about your pet

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<v Speaker 2>food and a couple other Burt Ward Robin items. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking to the legendary Bert Ward. It's KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 4>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Ronner in from O Kelly and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get right back to this. Every second counts. We have

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<v Speaker 2>the legendary, the legendary Bert Ward from Batman on the line. Bert,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still with me?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're going to get to your pet food in

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<v Speaker 2>just a second. But before we do that, I just

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<v Speaker 2>have to know when Batman was at its absolute peak,

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<v Speaker 2>what was your life like.

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<v Speaker 3>Busy listen. It was filming five days a week, eleven

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<v Speaker 3>to twelve hours a day, and not in a costume

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't terribly comfortable, climbing walls, fighting villains, very dangerous

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<v Speaker 3>filming back in those days not quite the same as

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<v Speaker 3>it is today, and on weekends making appearances. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like seven days a week. But I had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of fun and we made a lot of people happy,

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<v Speaker 3>and we always did things in a positive way. Even

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<v Speaker 3>when we made our personal appearances. You know, there would

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<v Speaker 3>be some people say, oh, take off your mask. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>When Batman, Adam West and myself were in costume, we

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<v Speaker 3>were in character. We preserved it for kids, so it

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<v Speaker 3>was always something that you could all the parents love

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<v Speaker 3>to bring their kids. We had a great time. It

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<v Speaker 3>was a fun show. I mean, this made so many

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<v Speaker 2>It certainly made me happy. And we hear things like

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<v Speaker 2>Don Adams basing his guest smart character on I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was William Powell. Was there anyone's influence at all

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<v Speaker 2>that we can hear in you as Robin? If you

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<v Speaker 2>told us anyone who inspired.

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<v Speaker 3>You, well, you know, here's the interesting thing. Growing up,

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<v Speaker 3>I always wanted to be a superhero and as a

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<v Speaker 3>three year old child, my mother took photos of me

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<v Speaker 3>something that I daydreamed about. So when I had the

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to do it, you know the reason I was selected.

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<v Speaker 3>There was eleven hundred young actors that tried out, and

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<v Speaker 3>the executive producer told me when after I was selected

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<v Speaker 3>that the reason they picked me. They said, if there

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<v Speaker 3>really was a robin, you know, like forgetting television. What

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<v Speaker 3>if there really was a robin, they said, you, personally,

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<v Speaker 3>Bert would be it. So we don't want you to

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<v Speaker 3>quote act. We want you to do just two things.

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<v Speaker 3>Be yourself and be enthusiastic. Well, that's pretty easy for

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<v Speaker 3>me to do, and that's what I did for one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you will always be my Robin. Now, for some time,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been making and selling your own specialty dog food.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about that. What led to that?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thirty years ago, in August of nineteen ninety four,

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<v Speaker 3>my wife and I rescued a Great Dane. We found

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<v Speaker 3>out that other Great Danes were being put to death

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<v Speaker 3>I said to my wife Tracy, in the first week

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<v Speaker 3>of August nineteen ninety four, I said, we can't let

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<v Speaker 3>weeks so we can find somebody else take this over.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's rescue them. By the end of August, we had

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<v Speaker 3>in our house one hundred and two Great Danes and

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<v Speaker 3>sixty one puppies under seven weeks of age. Wow, because

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<v Speaker 3>they were all being put to death and we saved everyone. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know here it is like thirty years later, haven't

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<v Speaker 3>We have found a way to make all dogs have

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<v Speaker 3>right now, throughout the United States and Canada, more than

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred thousand dogs every day eat our gentle giants.

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<v Speaker 3>Dog food is for all breeds, all ages, from the

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<v Speaker 3>We have a customer in PHOENICX. His dog on January

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<v Speaker 3>third of twenty twenty five will be thirty one years

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<v Speaker 3>listeners who have dogs. Here's a quick suggestion. Go pick

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<v Speaker 3>up those kibbles, rub them in your fingers, put them down,

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<v Speaker 3>rub your fingers together. You're gonna feel a greasy feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>That's animal fat that was sprayed onto the food and

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<v Speaker 3>stealing the food to make dogs eat more, to make

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<v Speaker 3>you buy more dog food. Well, that is terrible. We

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<v Speaker 3>believe it's killing dogs. And why do I say that,

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<v Speaker 3>because you wouldn't if you cook bacon, would you take

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<v Speaker 3>the grease and pour down your garbage disposed? Of course not,

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<v Speaker 3>it would clog it. We'll think of all the dogs

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<v Speaker 3>whose arteries and intestines are clogged with animal fat. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we don't do that. Our food is incredibly healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>non g O. That's another thing. You know in the US,

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<v Speaker 3>ninety percent genetically modified to accept pesticide in the food.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when a farmer grows a plant and pets

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<v Speaker 3>and bugs attack it, he sprayed with pesticide. Half the

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<v Speaker 3>time it kills the plant, but with GMOs in it,

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<v Speaker 3>Your dog eats the food, fruits vegetables, meat, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is absolutely true. In thirty years, we've had

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<v Speaker 3>more than fifteen thousand, five hundred dogs here and less

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<v Speaker 3>than a dozen had cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Bert I don't I don't think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>how lousy and full of garbage it is, and how

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<v Speaker 2>good quality pure food can give pets a new lease

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<v Speaker 2>on life. I had a cat for eighteen years and

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<v Speaker 2>it was on death's door a handful of times. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I started feeding the cat raw food that was

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. But what we've done is we've found a way.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's just the food, but it's how you've seed

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<v Speaker 3>the dogs. We seed dogs differently. We feed our dogs

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<v Speaker 3>a minimum of five times a day, small or more

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<v Speaker 3>frequent meals. Why do you do that because their bodies

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<v Speaker 3>wear out faster if they have to digest only two

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<v Speaker 3>meals a day. There's so much technology in our thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and by the way, our food is general giants. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to mention that those that want it here in

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<v Speaker 3>southern California, they could go to any State, or Brothers Market, Ralph's, Gelson's.

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<v Speaker 3>They could go to any petco. We're in fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 3>pet coos across the country, and they can order it online,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Petco, Chewy dot com. You know all of

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<v Speaker 3>the other majors plot for cats as well. We lost

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<v Speaker 3>too cats recently. One was thirty one years old and

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<v Speaker 3>one was thirty two years old. You can't do that

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<v Speaker 3>with regular pet food. And our food is so healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>it is the cleanest, and it's our charity. We take

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<v Speaker 3>no salary from this because we want everybody to be

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<v Speaker 2>That's incredible. And just tell people one more time where

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<v Speaker 2>they can go online to check out everything about General Giant.

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<v Speaker 3>They can go to General Giantsdogfood dot com, General giantspatfood

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<v Speaker 3>dot com or Generalgiantspet Products dot com. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's so many testimonials. We have thousands of testimonials on

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<v Speaker 3>Facebook and other places where people their dogs were near death.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, their vets told them nothing more can be done,

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<v Speaker 3>and they came back on our food because it's pure,

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<v Speaker 3>it's natural nutrition, and it's our charity. Again, we want

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's dog and cat to live the longest, healthiest life possible.

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<v Speaker 3>This is our life's work. And by the way, quick thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We got four awards on April twenty eight two from

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<v Speaker 3>the President of the United States, the President's Volunteer Service

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<v Speaker 3>Award for having rescued more than fifteen thousand, five hundred dogs,

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<v Speaker 3>and the President's Lifetime Achievement Award for having created this

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<v Speaker 3>special food and a special feeding and care program that

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<v Speaker 3>now almost all of our dogs here are living twice

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<v Speaker 3>their normal life man with no illness. Our dogs are

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<v Speaker 3>so healthy. The only time they go to a veterinarian

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<v Speaker 3>is every three years for a rabies update. No illness.

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<v Speaker 2>Good on you for that. Good on you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so terrific. Bert, We're up against the clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Before you go, Can I get a holy something from

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<v Speaker 2>your holy mediocre radio host, Holy sad nerd, Holy insels something,

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<v Speaker 2>holy superhero host.

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<v Speaker 3>Wowe, Dolly Mark, You're the greatest.

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<v Speaker 2>That was worth the whole thing right there, Bert Ward,

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot tell you how much it means to have

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<v Speaker 2>you as my first guest. I appreciate it. Hope, I

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you again. Take care.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. As we said, I'm Batman to them Batmobile.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand

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<v Speaker 4>from kf I A M six forty's.

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<v Speaker 2>About pop culture.

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<v Speaker 5>Ron and Report with Mark Ronner.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Later with Mo Killing on kf I AM six

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<v Speaker 2>point forty Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I'm Mark Ronner.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Run and Report and a couple of vastly

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<v Speaker 2>different things this week. First Terminator zero on Netflix. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of the trailer and it's pretty visual, and

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<v Speaker 2>gets a little gnarly about halfway through. Vicious dog, unstoppable

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<v Speaker 2>terminator killing people with automatic weapons, Terminator's face half off,

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<v Speaker 2>army of robots marching. You have uncertainty. Only one thing

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<v Speaker 1>Things will get worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Truck ramming a terminator over a bridge. You're not gonna

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<v Speaker 5>Judgment day.

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<v Speaker 2>Terminator with a crossbow popping out of his arm. We

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen that before. Dan die or you can come

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<v Speaker 2>with me, who orde comply or Die seems reasonable. Terminator

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<v Speaker 2>zero is an eight part animated series, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>watch a lot of animated movies or shows. You know why,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm an adult. Go ahead, foosh, okay, that's a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>I like running into the ground and taunting people like

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<v Speaker 2>to wallow with. But anime creators in Japan have always

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<v Speaker 2>understood that you can make any kind of animated movie

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<v Speaker 2>tell any kind of story, and it doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be for kids. In fact, plenty of it can be

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<v Speaker 2>is some violence that goes hard in this it's in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish more of the movies in the Terminator series

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<v Speaker 2>had been this entertaining instead of just feeling like they

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<v Speaker 2>can from Terminator fans. Arnold needs some new hummers in

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<v Speaker 2>a humid or back to work. The truth is Terminators

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like the Alien series to me. The first

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<v Speaker 2>one was a milestone, the second one up the aty

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<v Speaker 2>and was a bigger, different kind of classic in its

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<v Speaker 2>own right, both classics. And then there's the rest about

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<v Speaker 2>the most you could say is they had some good

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<v Speaker 2>stuff in them, but generally ranged from uneven to just

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<v Speaker 2>outright code browns. Can you even name all of them?

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<v Speaker 2>If you've seen them all, Tiffany, you win nothing. There

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<v Speaker 2>was Terminator three, Rise of the Something or Others, Terminator, Salvation, Terminator,

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<v Speaker 2>Genesis ge Nisys, which irritates me. That's an irritating spelling. Terminator,

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<v Speaker 2>Dark Fate, which is that the one where they brought

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<v Speaker 2>back Linda Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 6>I think so okay, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you had a two thousand and eight TV

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<v Speaker 2>got to tell you, of all these that one wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that bad, believe it or not. T Zero set in

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<v Speaker 2>Japan in nineteen ninety seven before Judgment Day. Pretty familiar premise,

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<v Speaker 2>you heard it, Come with me if you want to live,

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<v Speaker 2>or something along those lines. But it's nicely executed. Pardon me.

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<v Speaker 2>A terminator is sent back to kill a scientist who's

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<v Speaker 2>and a female fighter sent back to stop the killing.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of a female Kyle Reese. This one gets right

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<v Speaker 2>down to business, with a minimum of cheese, plenty of attention,

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<v Speaker 2>and some fairly jarring violence. Full disclosure. I was friends

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<v Speaker 2>with Harlan Ellison, who sued James Cameron for ripping off

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of his Outer Limits stories for The Terminator,

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<v Speaker 2>They're on they're streaming. You can find them episodes of

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<v Speaker 2>the old black and white Outer Limits, both excellent stories

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<v Speaker 2>about time travel and saving the human race. That is

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<v Speaker 2>why you see the acknowledgment added at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the first Terminator movie. Alison got some money too, but

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<v Speaker 2>good about picking up a check. By the way, Ellison

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<v Speaker 2>wrote another modern classic about computers all linking up, becoming sentient,

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<v Speaker 2>not making this up. I have no mouth, and I

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<v Speaker 2>must scream, one of the all time great titles. The

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<v Speaker 2>super Mega computer in this story keeps the last handful

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<v Speaker 2>If you've never read it, you're in for a treat,

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<v Speaker 2>A sick treat. But it beats the hell out of

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<v Speaker 2>that West World show. Now. It struck me watching Terminator

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<v Speaker 2>Zero that we're a lot closer to that terrifying sky

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<v Speaker 2>Net future now, because back in nineteen eighty four, the

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<v Speaker 2>Terminator was an unstoppable killing machine who might as well

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<v Speaker 2>have been Michael Myers from Halloween or the Student Loan People.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got autonomous cars as well as a mole for

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<v Speaker 2>big autonomous car working right here on this show. Twalla Sharp,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say this, as scary as the Terminator robots and

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<v Speaker 2>the movies are, at least they're not cranking out screenplays.

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<v Speaker 2>Terminator zero has some big timers doing voices. Timothy Oliphant

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<v Speaker 2>Sonoya Mizuno, who may not be familiar to non Nerds,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's going to be Nerd Royalty soon. She's in

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<v Speaker 2>House of the Dragon. She was in Alex Garland's dev

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<v Speaker 2>series and Ex Machina. I'll admit I am not a

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<v Speaker 2>huge fan of the animation, which looks like a mix

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<v Speaker 2>of that traditional speed racers style and some computer generated

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<v Speaker 2>stuff all swapped in together. But T zero is the

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<v Speaker 2>most watchable entry since T two, which reminds me I

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<v Speaker 2>also hate Siri. Oh crap, did I just activate a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of them? Sorry? Tell her to stop Judgment Day

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<v Speaker 2>from coming. And finally, Kevin Costner's Horizon is on HBO

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<v Speaker 2>slash Max now after being a huge flop in theaters.

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<v Speaker 2>It cost one hundred million dollars for chapter one and

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<v Speaker 2>it's only made about a third of that back in theaters. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Horizon and American Saga chapter one of four. Chapter

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<v Speaker 2>two should be premiering at the Venice Film Festival, which

433
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<v Speaker 2>just started. Three is reportedly filming fours in development. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>a three hour western in theaters when we're still in

435
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<v Speaker 2>a pandemic was kind of a big ask. And whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's a vanity project or a visionary work of art

437
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<v Speaker 2>that would make John Ford cry, I guess we won't

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<v Speaker 2>know until we've seen it all the way to the end.

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<v Speaker 2>But I admire the nerve and the ambition of Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Costner for making this. He doesn't show up until an

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<v Speaker 2>hour into the movie, and by the end of the

442
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<v Speaker 2>three hours, we barely know anything about him, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>not really even a story in this first movie. So

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<v Speaker 2>much is the beginning of one. So I can't say

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<v Speaker 2>it's fully satisfying, but it is one hundred percent worth seeing,

446
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<v Speaker 2>especially if you do love those john Ford john Wayne movies,

447
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<v Speaker 2>or if you liked Lonesome Dove How the West Was Won,

448
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<v Speaker 2>those big, sprawling epics. It is just beautifully photographed, lots

449
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<v Speaker 2>of battles, well staged, big cast of characters. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see where it all goes. And I think it's

451
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<v Speaker 2>important to support big swings like this from artists in

452
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<v Speaker 2>part to encourage actual artists to give us more than

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<v Speaker 2>the usual movie commerce that were fed. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I like Marvel movies as much as anyone else, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'd also like the little variety on the menu. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing this movie gets right is that it looks

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<v Speaker 2>so realistic that I constantly kept wondering how bad everyone smelled.

458
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<v Speaker 2>We forget how much indoor plumbing changed life for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>These were not people who showered every morning or every

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<v Speaker 2>week month, and whatever their pooping arrangement was, I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to be spared any depictions of it. Also, if this

462
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<v Speaker 2>Horizon movie boosts the career of Jeff Fahey and his

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<v Speaker 2>glorious facial hair, it'll all be worth everything at cost.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I buried the lead. Fahie the lawnmower man

465
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<v Speaker 2>is in this Tiffany. Have you ever watched a western

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<v Speaker 2>in your life?

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<v Speaker 6>I have. I grew up watching westerns with my mother

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<v Speaker 6>on Turner classic movies, I believe, and whatever was on

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<v Speaker 6>on television before television went off.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know that they're for everybody, but

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<v Speaker 2>if you grew up on them, this is going to

472
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<v Speaker 2>hit all the buttons for you. Terminator, you mentioned to

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<v Speaker 2>me that it was today's judgment day or yesterday was

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<v Speaker 2>judgment Day.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's there's a bit of a controversy thinking of Skynet.

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<v Speaker 6>Skynett maybe today where Skynett becomes self aware, or it

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<v Speaker 6>maybe nineteen ninety seven. I'm not fully sure. I was

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<v Speaker 6>trying to look it up quickly off air, but many

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<v Speaker 6>online are saying that August twenty ninth, twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 6>is when Skynet becomes self aware.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess we'd better be ready for it. Time

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a break. When we come back we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about the Poltergeist house that just sold.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 4>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Ronner in for Moe. Moe and Twaller are off

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<v Speaker 2>on a cruise, hopefully just well in their cups by now.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't think just because Moe's gone, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to have name that cult movie classic. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to get in line, call up and play. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the number. Eight hundred five to two oh one five

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<v Speaker 2>three one, eight hundred five two oh one five three

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<v Speaker 2>one four four. Wait a minute, one five oh three.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote it down wrong. Okay, scratch that, because I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't wearing my glasses when I copied down the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm too vain to walk around in the building

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<v Speaker 2>with glasses. Eight hundred five to two oh one five

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<v Speaker 2>three four Is that right? Foosh?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. We were bound to hit some sort of glitch tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm glad that that's all it's been so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Five Radio one eight hundred five too oh one five

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<v Speaker 2>three four. We will give you some kind of Mo

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly swag. It will be unspecified. It'll be a surprise

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<v Speaker 2>grab bag. It could be a key chain of later

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<v Speaker 2>with mo Kelly. It could be a mo Kelly mug.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, you could drink out of Moe's head. Or

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<v Speaker 2>it could be something else. But you'll get some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of swag, will take down your name and your stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and you will receive an item. But before we go

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<v Speaker 2>to that real quickly the Poltergeist House. So the Poltergeist

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<v Speaker 2>House from the nineteen eighty two Toby Hooper horror movie

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<v Speaker 2>that everyone has seen, what tiffany of Have you seen Poltergeist?

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<v Speaker 3>I have?

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<v Speaker 2>I have.

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<v Speaker 6>I saw it as a child, I saw it as

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<v Speaker 6>an adult, and equally scary both times.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it really scare you?

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<v Speaker 6>I won't say it scared me. It creeped me out

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<v Speaker 6>because you start to think about your TV coming alive

521
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<v Speaker 6>in the middle of the night, that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It sold less than three weeks after it was placed

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<v Speaker 2>on the market. It was listed for sale for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time in forty five years. The agent said. Although

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<v Speaker 2>much of the house has been updated, some of the

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<v Speaker 2>rooms would still be familiar to fans of the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>including the kitchen and family room. No word about the

528
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<v Speaker 2>pool where all the where all the corpses were The

529
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<v Speaker 2>house was originally listed at one million, one hundred and

530
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<v Speaker 2>seventy four, nine hundred and ninety nine dollars, and it

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<v Speaker 2>reportedly received several offers. We don't know what the final

532
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<v Speaker 2>negotiated price was, but my question to the crew is, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>would you live in that house?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, that price seems relatively low, you know, compared

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<v Speaker 6>to specs in the neighborhood and homes around California, Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 6>I think if I were offered that home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be a little.

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<v Speaker 6>Nervous at some point, but you quickly get over that.

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<v Speaker 6>You realize you're getting a good deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's also just a movie house. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>a real murder house. Foosh, would you I think I might.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be a little nervous at first, but yeah, considering

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<v Speaker 2>the price, Yeah, I think that housing is so expensive

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<v Speaker 2>right now that I would live in the Bates Motel

546
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<v Speaker 2>if it was under twenty three hundred bucks a month

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<v Speaker 2>for a two bedroom. Andrew, what about you? No, now

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to give it even though it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a movie house.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what, all of the all of la that's

551
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<v Speaker 6>listening right now, just like me, I don't need no

552
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<v Speaker 6>bad juju follow me around.

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<v Speaker 2>Movie house or no movie house. I got to tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>I am priced out of ever in my life owning

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<v Speaker 2>a house in the Los Angeles area. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>if the Amityville house where real stuff actually did happen,

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<v Speaker 2>if that came on the market well, and if it

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<v Speaker 2>was here in LA and there was a good deal

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<v Speaker 2>on that, I'd have to consider it. I'll say you.

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<v Speaker 2>I read the Amityville book when when I was quite

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<v Speaker 2>young in my grandparents' basement in Spokane. And here's the

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<v Speaker 2>setup the basement. You go down a flight of stairs,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a long hallway with rooms that go off, and

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<v Speaker 2>then there's my bedroom at the end of the hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's no light switch at the end of the hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only the light switch at the top of the stairs.

567
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<v Speaker 2>So I turn the lights off and I feel way

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<v Speaker 2>down my way down to my bedroom. And I read

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<v Speaker 2>the Amityville horror book and it scares the hell out

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<v Speaker 2>of me when I'm a kid. But I can't go

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<v Speaker 2>back downstairs now because the lights at the top of

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<v Speaker 2>the stairs, and I just have to stay downstairs and

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<v Speaker 2>eat it all night. What I'm telling you is I

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<v Speaker 2>would live in the Amityville House if there was a

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<v Speaker 2>good deal on it.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, there is another house in Los Angeles. It goes

577
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<v Speaker 6>by the Moniker Murder House. So you had actually coined

578
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<v Speaker 6>the Poter Guy's house as such, but it's not that.

579
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<v Speaker 6>And the murder house was used for filming an American

580
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<v Speaker 6>horror story and murders. She wrote Buffy, Yeah, murders, she

581
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<v Speaker 6>wrote Buffy the Vampires, sleigher all these things. That house

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<v Speaker 6>is like five stories, all brick on the outside, with

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<v Speaker 6>these really dark small windows. It kind of looks like

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<v Speaker 6>a castle. It's very Gothic in style. That one I

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<v Speaker 6>would not live in, no matter.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't pay me to spend the night in the

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<v Speaker 2>Queen Mary Listen, slap a coat of paint on it

588
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<v Speaker 2>and fabreeze it, and I'm gonna call it good because

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<v Speaker 2>otherwise I have no hope of ever owning a house

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<v Speaker 2>in this area. Things are so expensive now. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that realtors have to tell you now if there has

592
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<v Speaker 2>been a killing and a house. And I'm genuinely curious

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<v Speaker 2>if people are sort of doing that whole Jack Benny

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<v Speaker 2>cheapskate your money or your life thing when they find

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<v Speaker 2>out about this, because who can what normal person can

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<v Speaker 2>afford nine hundred bucks for an average sized house. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to be doing the math in your head, like, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess if there's a presence here, can they chip

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<v Speaker 2>in for utilities? I don't know. Let me give you

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<v Speaker 2>the number one more time. We're going to play Name

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<v Speaker 2>that cult movie classic when we come back. The number.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get it right this time eight hundred five

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<v Speaker 2>two oh one, five three four. If you get through,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to get something. We just don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It'll be some mo Kelly swag. Name that

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<v Speaker 2>cult movie classic? Coming up right after this break, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Ronner in from O Kelly on a KFI rather AM

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<v Speaker 2>six forty live everywhere on the iHeart app.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been listening so later with mo Kelly. You can

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<v Speaker 1>always hear us live on KFI AM six forty seven

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