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<v Speaker 1>Weird things happened in the weird Weird Weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, what what Alex?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you looking at me?

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<v Speaker 2>Like that? For?

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<v Speaker 4>I was worried about time for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping for something a little more spiritual.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it again?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh like, Okay, I'm gonna take it from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>but leave it all in so that I can have

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<v Speaker 2>we can have transparency with our viewers. Yeah, don't delete them,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you dare? Don't you dare? Don't? And I see

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing. Okay, here we go again. Ready, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>hello everyone? How you today?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling great, but now we're presented with a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>What that's India?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Hey there, would follow me? Follow me for a second.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw a quick question. Okay, what did they used

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<v Speaker 5>to call it? If Americans?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just saying, our wires get crossing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Aaron. See that's what I'm talking about. Christopher freaking

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<v Speaker 2>Columbus when he decided to sail the Ocean blue in

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen ninety two. I remember that because of the rhyme.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that was I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourteen ninety two Columbus sailed the ocean blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, okay, I'm taking it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he came over and was like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>India for sure, right, yeah, I must have hit India

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<v Speaker 2>because there's not another big old chunk of land right

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<v Speaker 2>here between us, so this has to be India. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, ah, these people are Indians, yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they were like.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not, and he was like that you are. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it was like finds and then losers, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>pox blankets.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really glad that you sort of organically went this direction

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<v Speaker 1>because this actually brings me to something I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, like something I think that was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>my agenda to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're both gonna laugh at my earnest noise. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not allowed to make an excited exclamatory.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're very what is this man?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I in prison?

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<v Speaker 1>We're whitewashing history, That's what we're doing, and I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not happy with it. But anyway to get on to

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that I actually wanted to talk about whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the real history, right because those dudes

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<v Speaker 1>at the top they do be changing history. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So hear me out. I'm gonna get serious for me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something I was thinking about how to bring

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<v Speaker 1>up later, but let's just start with it because this

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<v Speaker 1>is lately one of my favorite subjects.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, as you said, fourteen ninety two, Columbus Sell the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>Blue, right, he's spitting right, it's got.

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<v Speaker 1>Bars on it. So we are made to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that anybody came to the America's from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Europe or wherever another continent, was in fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two. Okay, this is something that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a complete lie. It's a complete fabrication.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that the Templars hold to be a very valuable

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<v Speaker 1>secret that they're now coming forward and they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea here is that the Templar Knights, which

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<v Speaker 1>if I believe, I believe I'm remembering correctly, you could

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<v Speaker 1>google this for me, please, they formed around I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in Well, I mean, let's just hope that the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>don't lie. But I think they started around the nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds AD. Because this isn't really a Templar episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have all that jotted down I just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to move through it. Right, is it the nine hundreds.

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<v Speaker 4>It's officially saying eleven eighteen, so we're not I was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty far off.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, one hundred years, two hundred that's not starting

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<v Speaker 1>to get give or take.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is the official beginning, right, And I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like I definitely listened to an audiobook about the Templar Knights,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>They would claim that they're way older than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, their official beginning and their actual beginning is Egypt.

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<v Speaker 1>The Templars would say, just like the Rosicrusions. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a debate between the two and it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>serious debate. The Rosicrucians. Are you into that Resicrucianism in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, like if you looked into it enough, doubled

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<v Speaker 1>it's very interesting. I'm really into Rosicrucianism. I'm really into

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<v Speaker 1>studying Templars. I think it's all fascinating. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>all so. But there's a serious debate between the two communities, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Templars and the Rosicrucians both believe they're older.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course they do.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, So it's not that serious. It's just basically a

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<v Speaker 5>dicks winging contest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, but to them it's serious. Yes, yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I was first, Yeah, I was first. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>huh no, uh no, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Come from Egypt. Well maybe both, right, why not both?

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<v Speaker 1>But I come from Atlantis, you know, I created it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>but seriously, that's it. They're like, no, no, we come from

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<v Speaker 1>Atlana's you know. And I don't know who to believe.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not extremely well versed in either. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's fascinating either way, right, Yeah, But what we

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<v Speaker 1>can agree on, okay, is that before fourteen ninety two,

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<v Speaker 1>the Templar Knights came to America. That's like one of

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<v Speaker 1>their big secrets that they're now coming forward with.

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<v Speaker 2>We can agree on that absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that there's ample evidence. There are

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<v Speaker 1>sites all over America. There's like documentaries about this that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are in places where there is like

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<v Speaker 1>dense populations of Native Americans, but also like cultural sites

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, relics, burial grounds, but really sacred Native

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<v Speaker 1>sites throughout America. There are some underground I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if temple would be the right word, but there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>locations where there are templar artifacts found underground.

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<v Speaker 2>Might be a silly example, but they do like reference

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<v Speaker 2>and show that in Assassin's Creed three.

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<v Speaker 5>Assassin's great. But I was gonna say I didn't, I can't.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, I can't remember if I only

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<v Speaker 5>know this because of Assassin's Creed, so it might not

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<v Speaker 5>even have happened. But didn't. The Vikings also come earlier

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<v Speaker 5>than Christopher.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's I think, I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard of that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, dude, like there's only what how many continents?

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<v Speaker 2>Seven to eight? Like how many seven? Okay, I'll trust you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like you know that you think people were

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<v Speaker 2>just like skirting around that one this one. Rather, we're

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<v Speaker 2>here right now, but you think people were just skirting

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<v Speaker 2>around it and not finding it all those years.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I agree. I think it's ridiculous. I think and

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<v Speaker 1>Alex could probably have some.

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<v Speaker 4>White Vikings did beat Columbus, but I did not know

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<v Speaker 4>that the Vikings landed north obviously more the Chinese were

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<v Speaker 4>here north of New England into Canada, whereas Columbus landed

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<v Speaker 4>south south. United States actually landed in South America. So

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<v Speaker 4>you I mean vastly different worlds. Yeah, if you think

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<v Speaker 4>about it, they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally whitewashing history. They're they're literally like they're they're changing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the question is why?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think maybe you know the authorities at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, as Alex could elaborate on the who

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<v Speaker 1>writes history? Right, the victors? Why one?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>So you want your people to know how you won,

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<v Speaker 4>and you want that to fit in a way that

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<v Speaker 4>you remain in power.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. It's control, It's it's to propagate and proliferate control. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's like, well, we already won and burned all

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<v Speaker 2>of the history and culture, so we might as well

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<v Speaker 2>just make these people believe exactly what we want them

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<v Speaker 2>to believe so that we can control them as long

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<v Speaker 2>as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I also do think that there's kind of a human

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<v Speaker 4>elemento that you know, you you people generally do things

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<v Speaker 4>for a reason they think is right. Yeah, nobody thinks

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<v Speaker 4>that about Guy and I love I love talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the morality of war, and we've brought it up on

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<v Speaker 4>the show many times. But if you're fighting to protect

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<v Speaker 4>your family and the things that you've worked for, is

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<v Speaker 4>killing for that good? Is killing to protect your loved

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<v Speaker 4>ones morally good.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean it depends on if you're being told

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<v Speaker 5>if it's fall out reason, or if it's because it

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<v Speaker 5>literally is fallout reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I agree, Like, if it's in your face, happening

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<v Speaker 2>right now and you have to act to protect your

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<v Speaker 2>loved ones, then yes. But if you're being told that

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<v Speaker 2>and you are going somewhere else to do that, and

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<v Speaker 2>you think you're protecting your people and whatever, but you

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<v Speaker 2>are literally like going to them to kill them, It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that. I mean from the outside

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy, well sure, but I mean just fundamentally it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>are they here right now in front of your face?

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, Well, then it's it's a gray area at

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<v Speaker 2>that point. It's it's at least we can agree a

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<v Speaker 2>gray area because it's like, wow, how do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you know you're being told? Right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>It's such an interesting topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's one of those ones that's just like

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to like put p a finger on it

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, know the exact answer, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all this Christopher Columbus stuff is fascinating. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to a Templar Knight, they would say, actually, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, if you just google an image of Christopher columbus.

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<v Speaker 2>Ship, I'm gonna do it right now, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. Let's all do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can keep talking.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually want to see it with my own eyes

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure I'm not spitting Lizier.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because for columbus ship, did his ship have like

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<v Speaker 2>a cool name? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect, No, I was telling the truth. If you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Christopher Columbus's ship, oh damn templar crosses yo, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hear me out. The Templars will tell you, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have actually talked to some about this, the Templars

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<v Speaker 1>would tell you. Okay, you want to know why Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus had a templar cross on his ship because the

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<v Speaker 1>real reason that they claim, which I personally I do

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<v Speaker 1>think it's true. I think it makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the the the bastards at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>humanity are just completely changing history. They don't want us

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<v Speaker 1>to have the true secret history of the world world right,

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<v Speaker 1>The Templars were coming to America for hundreds of years.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea is that when the Templar Knights were coming here,

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<v Speaker 1>they were befriending the tribes like in the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I say the America's meaning North America, South America, all

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<v Speaker 1>of what we would call the US today, Mexico, yes, central,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were befriending the locals. They had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in common spiritually, even though their language was different. It

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<v Speaker 1>has been suggested by people in you know, you could

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<v Speaker 1>say templar orders or whatever that like, for example, if

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<v Speaker 1>you know anything about Freemasons or certain initiatic traditions like Templarism,

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<v Speaker 1>they have secret handshakes, So you know any of them? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, actually, damn it. I mean I've read some online,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like, how could I know unless I ask

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<v Speaker 1>somebody and they're like, yeah, that's it, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just tea I don't know. Ask a Mormon.

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<v Speaker 1>They have them, Yeah, they do. Mormons of secret handshakes,

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<v Speaker 1>but if.

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<v Speaker 5>You ask them, they're just gonna say no, damn.

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<v Speaker 4>It, that's right, right, Yeah, it means they're good at

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<v Speaker 4>secret handshakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone ever gonna teach me a secret handshake?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like you could start your own.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, let's start one.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean camera you've already failed.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do that ship on camera. Ready, but you got me,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go away on camera.

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<v Speaker 4>It's on cameras, I can get you all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready, We're just gonna wing it fly and that's our secret.

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<v Speaker 1>We just kind of fly a little bit, right. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to try it again, Yeah, we're just gonna fly

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<v Speaker 1>like a double hand in the pointon dynamite. Yeah. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels good, right, I kind of yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're flying together.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>We're rising out you Yeah, it does right, Yeah, awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm I'm sorry to inform you. Guys. This is

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<v Speaker 3>just a handshake.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, You're not in the club, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, dude, the negativity keep it over there.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm just it's just the secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He did try to justify them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know what the secret part of it

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<v Speaker 2>is is we're communicating telepathically while it's happening.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's not secret.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Well what we're saying is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Secret, that's right, And you'll never know unless you watch

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. Yeah exactly. He did just try to justify

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<v Speaker 1>why they'd be changing history. So I'm suspicious of him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's the one, that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's the one.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the one.

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<v Speaker 4>I just made a case for it. Yeah, not personally.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm gonna be honest with.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys, Like if it were me, Yeah, I would,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, paint myself to be a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why you'll never be made.

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<v Speaker 4>If I had, if I had, if I took over

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<v Speaker 4>a country and then I had to like draw a

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'd make my muscles look a little bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's one thing, man, making Lying about the size

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<v Speaker 2>and shininess of your muscles is one thing, Okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's where it starts.

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<v Speaker 1>Lying about like entire cultural you know, devastations, Yeah, sacred

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<v Speaker 1>you know, discoveries. That's kind of a different story. But

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<v Speaker 1>the idea is that the Templars were coming here for

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of years, they were befriending the locals right, that

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<v Speaker 1>they had sacred sites that they were building underground allegedly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is kind of getting out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm going to come back to Native Americans talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some some things that I have been interested in

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<v Speaker 1>it in lately. The Templars claim that they have not

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<v Speaker 1>one as we're told to believe. But six arcs of

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<v Speaker 1>the Covenant, I know, right what I thought there was one,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it said in Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>Jones and it melted that guy's face off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Well, the temp Yes, the Templars claimed that

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<v Speaker 1>there were many of them and that in ancient times

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like an electro magnetic device. When you

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<v Speaker 1>read about it in the Bible, it's like this power

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<v Speaker 1>comes down and you know it, you know, vaporizes people,

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<v Speaker 1>basically gives people radiation damage. Yeah, but basically it's like

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<v Speaker 1>an electrostatic device, like electrostatic and that it can generate

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<v Speaker 1>power and electricity.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>They claim that they were coming here for one hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of years, they brought some of the arcs, and that

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<v Speaker 1>there is I'm not exactly sure where. I asked a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine who's involved with a particular templar order.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I was like, I say, utah, he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, maybe, you know, not necessarily sure. But

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<v Speaker 1>the claim from some Templar knights is that there are sights,

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<v Speaker 1>that there's like an agreement between Templars and Native Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>that their relationship spans hundreds of years, that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a vault in America where they're keeping some

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<v Speaker 1>of these arcs of the Covenant that's like protected by

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<v Speaker 1>Native Americans.

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<v Speaker 5>WHOA, Yeah, Well, if one of the places is skinwalker runch,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's why all the weird shit happened. WHOA one

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<v Speaker 5>of the things that the Native Americans might have used

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<v Speaker 5>to protect it is skinwalkers.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know, I can't it's an interesting theory.

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<v Speaker 1>What I've heard about Skinwalker Ranch is that the Ute

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<v Speaker 1>Natives were practicing some pretty strange and bizarre like sort

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<v Speaker 1>of black magic things, uh many many years ago, which

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<v Speaker 1>could have cost some sort of fortext Yeah, you could say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the stuff we talked about the New Wagers

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<v Speaker 1>and the Hippies say, like the vortex, the portal, that

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a collection of energy there a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>their practice. I mean, you've heard of like the Wind

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<v Speaker 1>to Go, and I don't know if that's like you

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, but I'm like, by no means an expert

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<v Speaker 1>in all these these very similar but also different Native

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<v Speaker 1>American tribes.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a Native myth, right, the Wind to Go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's it's just the concept that there are

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<v Speaker 1>like you could say, demonic spirits that possess people and

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<v Speaker 1>cause them to act berserk like certain animals.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea I thought it was a oh right, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was like a wolf like kind of creature.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, you're the real legend of it is like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a spirit that possesses people. Yeah, and it's believed

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<v Speaker 1>to be real. You know what I mean. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>oh oh yeah, you know, it's it's a very like real,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just like a fictional thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are cultures that to this day believe in

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<v Speaker 2>the window goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's like the idea of shape shifters. People

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<v Speaker 1>believe that people could turn into an animals and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I mean, you have the myth of were

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<v Speaker 1>wolves and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of that stuff comes from native myth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for sure. But yeah, so the idea there is

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<v Speaker 1>that that there had been a relationship established between native

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<v Speaker 1>cultures of the Americas Templar knights. Like you said, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Chinese people were coming. If I can people, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that to be I had no clue about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But so then I want to open a deeper question. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the Templars came, they befriended these people, they found

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<v Speaker 1>a kinship with their spiritual knowledge. There are templars who

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<v Speaker 1>claim that, you know, brothers from Templar orders can go

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<v Speaker 1>to like brothers from Mayan order in Mexico and they

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<v Speaker 1>have the same exact handshake, literally same. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>They're like all the way across the world and we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking all these years ago. How do they have the

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<v Speaker 1>same handshake? Right? So the templar that performs the proper

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<v Speaker 1>handshake to the I don't know what the term would be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it would be shaman or priest

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But you know, a member of some secret

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<v Speaker 1>order in Mexico, when they perform a handshake, they're now

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<v Speaker 1>considered a brother. So they can participate in their ritual,

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<v Speaker 1>they can participate in their ceremony. They have a kinship,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Yeah, I thought we had

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<v Speaker 1>different languages.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's kind of a universal language. They're they're welcoming

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<v Speaker 2>them into the same traditions in the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, different language, how do they have similar you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And then you get into Native American

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<v Speaker 1>beliefs and and it's it's it's amazing. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>a specific relevance to UFO phenomenon, something that has actually

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<v Speaker 1>been indicated to me at some point in my life

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<v Speaker 1>by people. And uh, you could say the CIA or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, you need to look into this. I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it relates to your family, it relates to the phenomenon

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, just looking at this and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're going to talk about that. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>think that there is a theory to be positive that

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<v Speaker 1>if we think about the idea, you know, we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it on the Wisdom Tradition series, that there was

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of Atlantis, that at one point there was

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<v Speaker 1>one knowledge or as you said in the Siamatics episode,

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<v Speaker 1>like the story of the Tower of Babbel, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we all had one universal language, a universal understanding. You

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<v Speaker 1>could compare the story of the Tower of Babel to

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Atlantis or the story of Lucifer. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're climbing higher, we're seeking a higher status in the

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<v Speaker 1>universe or the cosmic order. As the story of Lucifer goes,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks at God's throne and he says, that's I

422
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<v Speaker 1>deserve to be there. This is my place. You know,

423
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<v Speaker 1>I shine higher than all the other angels. It's very egotistical,

424
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<v Speaker 1>very rebellious to the law and order of the universe,

425
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<v Speaker 1>which is a sacred thing. It's not to be tampered with.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, so one theory is like, again, maybe

427
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<v Speaker 1>we were all that soul. We were split to Earth

428
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<v Speaker 1>and to many fragmented psyches to have all these different

429
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<v Speaker 1>experiences and we're all evolving up to like a higher

430
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<v Speaker 1>order again, or like the Tower of Babel. Maybe at

431
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<v Speaker 1>one point we were one people, we had one language,

432
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<v Speaker 1>similar thing. Maybe we got to some level of hubris

433
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<v Speaker 1>where we're like, okay, your language is split. Or what

434
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<v Speaker 1>was the other one that I said? It was Tower

435
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<v Speaker 1>of Babel Atlantis and that it doesn't really matter. I

436
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<v Speaker 1>can't remember. I said a third one. I thought it

437
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<v Speaker 1>was just those lucifer Oh oh yeah. Within the third

438
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<v Speaker 1>one is Atlantis the idea that we were like a

439
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<v Speaker 1>precursor of society, and we destroyed ourselves through black magic,

440
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<v Speaker 1>through evil practices, through the left hand path, through you know,

441
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<v Speaker 1>seeking to serve our ego, but we have these higher

442
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<v Speaker 1>abilities of consciousness, magic, spiritual.

443
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<v Speaker 2>It's the same story.

444
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<v Speaker 1>It's the same story. It's just many different blueprints of

445
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<v Speaker 1>it different. I think that there maybe is an argument

446
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<v Speaker 1>that could be made that there are little whispers of

447
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<v Speaker 1>the knowledge of Atlantis that are spread throughout ancient America,

448
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<v Speaker 1>you know, throughout the Native Americans of you know, the

449
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<v Speaker 1>US today, through Mexico, through South America, through you know, Canada,

450
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<v Speaker 1>and so I wanted to pull a couple of things

451
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<v Speaker 1>from Manly P. Hall because Manley P. Hall is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorites. This is from the Secret Teaching of

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<v Speaker 1>All Ages. So keep in mind it's written in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenties. I'm just gonna read it word for word.

455
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<v Speaker 1>But so this is, you know, kind of an archaic language.

456
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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so he says, the North American Indian is

457
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<v Speaker 1>by nature is symbolist, a mystic, and a philosopher. Like

458
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<v Speaker 1>most Aboriginal peoples, his soul was in rapport with the

459
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<v Speaker 1>cosmic agencies manifesting about him. Not only did his mentos

460
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<v Speaker 1>control creation from their exalted seats above the clouds, but

461
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<v Speaker 1>they also descended into the world of men and mingled

462
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<v Speaker 1>with their children, it says, their red children. You know,

463
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<v Speaker 1>I'm just reading a word for word. I know, I know.

464
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<v Speaker 1>The gray clouds hanging over the horizon were the smoke

465
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<v Speaker 1>from the calumets. I don't know how to say that word.

466
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<v Speaker 1>The calumets of the gods who could build fires of

467
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<v Speaker 1>petrified wood and use a comment for a flame. Interesting

468
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<v Speaker 1>because you know, when you talk about HOOPI prophets. The

469
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<v Speaker 1>American Indian peopled the forests, rivers, and sky with the

470
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<v Speaker 1>myriads of superphysical and invisible beings. There are legends of

471
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<v Speaker 1>entire tribes of Indians who lived in lake bottoms, of

472
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<v Speaker 1>races who were never seen in the daytime, but who

473
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<v Speaker 1>coming forth from their hidden caves, roam the earth at night,

474
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<v Speaker 1>and waylaid unwary travelers. Also of bat Indians with human

475
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<v Speaker 1>bodies and bat like wings, who lived in gloomy forests

476
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<v Speaker 1>and inaccessible cliffs, and who slept hanging head downward from

477
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<v Speaker 1>great branches and outcroppings of rock. The Red Men's philosophy

478
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<v Speaker 1>of elemental creatures is apparently the outcome of his intimate

479
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<v Speaker 1>contact with nature, whose inexplicable wonders become the generating cause

480
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<v Speaker 1>of such metaphysical speculations. In common with the early Scandinavians,

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<v Speaker 1>the Indians of North America considered the Earth, the Great Mother,

482
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<v Speaker 1>to be an intermediate plain, bounded above by a heavenly sphere,

483
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<v Speaker 1>the dwelling place of the Great Spirit, and below by

484
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<v Speaker 1>a dark and terrifying subterranean world, the abode of shadows

485
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<v Speaker 1>and of sub sub mundane powers. Like the Chaldeans, they

486
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<v Speaker 1>divided the interval between the surface of Earth and heaven

487
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<v Speaker 1>into various strata or layers, one consisting of clouds, another

488
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<v Speaker 1>of the paths of the heavenly bodies, and so on.

489
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<v Speaker 1>The underworld was similarly divided, and, like the Greek system,

490
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<v Speaker 1>represented to the initiated House of the Lesser Mysteries, those

491
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<v Speaker 1>creatures capable of functioning and two or more elements were

492
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<v Speaker 1>considered as messages between the spirits of these various plains.

493
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<v Speaker 1>The abode of the dead was presumed to be in

494
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<v Speaker 1>a distant place in the heavens above, the earth, below,

495
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<v Speaker 1>the distant corners of the world, or across wide seas.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes a river flows between the world of the dead

497
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<v Speaker 1>and that of the living, in this respect, paralleling Egyptian, Greek,

498
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<v Speaker 1>and Christian theology. To the Indian, the number of four

499
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<v Speaker 1>has a peculiar sanctity, presumably because the Great Spirit created

500
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<v Speaker 1>his universe in a square frame. This is suggestion of

501
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<v Speaker 1>the veneration accorded the tetrad by the Pythagoreans, who held

502
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<v Speaker 1>it to be a fitting symbol of the Creator. The

503
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<v Speaker 1>legendary narratives of the strange adventures of intrepid heroes, while

504
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<v Speaker 1>in the physical body penetrated the realms of the dead

505
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<v Speaker 1>proved beyond the question the presence of mystery cults among

506
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<v Speaker 1>the North American men. Wherever the mysteries were established, they

507
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<v Speaker 1>were recognized as the philosophic equivalence of death. For those

508
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<v Speaker 1>passing through the rituals experienced all after death conditions while

509
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<v Speaker 1>still in the physical body. At the consummation of the ritual,

510
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<v Speaker 1>the initiate actually gained the ability to pass in and

511
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<v Speaker 1>out of his physical body at will. This is the

512
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<v Speaker 1>philosophic foundation for the allegories of adventures in the Indian

513
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<v Speaker 1>Shadowland or the world of ghosts. So I think that

514
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<v Speaker 1>there is this secret knowledge that has been like promulgated

515
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<v Speaker 1>through all these different cultures in secret throughout the ancient

516
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<v Speaker 1>path the past. And then you have you know, institutions

517
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<v Speaker 1>like the Church, you know the royals of different countries

518
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<v Speaker 1>and Europe, you know the dynasties in Asia and all

519
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<v Speaker 1>these different countries that are like suppressing the knowledge that

520
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<v Speaker 1>threatens the power structure at the time, which is like why,

521
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<v Speaker 1>for example, oh, I forgot to even say the templars,

522
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<v Speaker 1>Say the Christopher Columbus had the templar flag. He wasn't

523
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<v Speaker 1>a templar. He had the flag on his ship because

524
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<v Speaker 1>they knew even at the time that the Templars had

525
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>been coming here for hundreds of years no way, so

526
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<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, if we fly the Templar flag, they'll

527
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<v Speaker 1>welcome us, no way.

528
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that is so then it was like well known

529
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>back then, yeah, and it's not as well known now,

530
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<v Speaker 2>Like it like that's not something I've never heard that

531
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:40.839
<v Speaker 2>this they're altering history. Oh that like sickens me a

532
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:41.319
<v Speaker 2>little bit.

533
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but even worse, like they would fly the flag

534
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 1>just to show up and be like hey guys, Yeah,

535
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 1>but it's pretty sick when you think about it. But anyway,

536
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.160
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, it's just it's it is.

537
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<v Speaker 2>It is weird. What what's the motivation behind? Wow, we

538
00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:59.480
<v Speaker 2>don't want anybody to know that that the Templars were

539
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<v Speaker 2>here before Christopher Columbus.

540
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<v Speaker 1>Well then I guess you know this great mission that

541
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:07.599
<v Speaker 1>they were embarking to do on behalf of He was Spanish, right,

542
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>so it was like this Yeah, so it was this

543
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:17.759
<v Speaker 1>official it takes away the power from the kingdom, you know.

544
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was on Queen's business, right exactly. He was

545
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 4>basically commissioned by the Queen of Spain, right.

546
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the Templar is this secret mystery order. You know,

547
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.799
<v Speaker 1>they're a mystery tradition, which at the time they were

548
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>considered heretics by the royal dynasties and by the Church. Yeah,

549
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>in thirteen ninety seven, the King of France and the

550
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Pope got together, They're like, we got to burn them alive.

551
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>They're heretics. They're they're subverting our power. They're building wealth

552
00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:49.599
<v Speaker 1>that's higher than the combination of the Vatican and our

553
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 1>kingdom our treasuries combined. And they're teaching all this mystical knowledge.

554
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>But really they were traveling around the world and they're like,

555
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, it would be deserving artifacts.

556
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it would be directly against their interest to let

557
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the people think or know I guess that, like, yeah,

558
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>the Templars have already been there, Like they're already there

559
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.480
<v Speaker 2>because they're heretics. Why would they want their people to

560
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>believe and know that, like the Templars already went there.

561
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.839
<v Speaker 2>If they're supposed to be evil and heretics and whatever,

562
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:21.319
<v Speaker 2>that'd be giving them power that they don't want their

563
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:23.000
<v Speaker 2>people to know that. You know.

564
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Man, it's kind of like the space race.

565
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is isn't it.

566
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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, Christopher Columbus was born in Italy, but his

567
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 4>is his voyages were sponsored by Spain, and that would

568
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.440
<v Speaker 4>have been there King for Nan and Queen Isabella, who

569
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 4>provided him basically the ship's resources and money. So he

570
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 4>was born in Italy and died in Spain.

571
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 2>So he's Italian. Yeah, I don't know's ital.

572
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was Spanish. That's interesting.

573
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:52.680
<v Speaker 4>No, he died in Spain and born in Italy.

574
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<v Speaker 2>I remember. I always remembered there being like some sort

575
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 2>of misunderstanding there that like everyone thinks that he's Spanish,

576
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>but he was actually just working on behalf of the

577
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 2>Spanish or whatever. I mean. Well, he was sent to

578
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>find India, right, that was the whole.

579
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 4>That's what I was taught in school. Right that he

580
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 4>thought he was going. He was just actually such a

581
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:16.640
<v Speaker 4>bad sailor that had founded a country.

582
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:17.720
<v Speaker 3>It's taking a.

583
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Really long time to get over here to was the wrong.

584
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Way in reality. He's a wrong way, literally the whole

585
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 2>wrong in reality. He was just like I'm just gonna

586
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<v Speaker 2>land it the first piece of land that I find

587
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:29.359
<v Speaker 2>and call it India. See.

588
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<v Speaker 1>I think that's bs though, because the templars have a

589
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:34.759
<v Speaker 1>different story that they came over here for expansion and

590
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<v Speaker 1>that they flew that flag to trick the natives. You know,

591
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean who knows who knows which one is true?

592
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're both I mean solid strategy, yeah for sure.

593
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<v Speaker 2>But I mean that was definitely the time of like

594
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.960
<v Speaker 2>conquest and expansion, so that wouldn't be a stretch to

595
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<v Speaker 2>believe that.

596
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:50.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

597
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're just trying to like, you know, expand.

598
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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's interesting. I think I'm just really particularly

599
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<v Speaker 1>interested in in like templar stuff lately. And I think

600
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.279
<v Speaker 1>when you pull that thread that they were in America first,

601
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:03.759
<v Speaker 1>it opens a lot of other doorways.

602
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>It is fascinating. I had no idea.

603
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a completely alternate perspective.

604
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>It also changes the history of the yeah, the world,

605
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>but like specifically America. When when you think about the

606
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.799
<v Speaker 2>history of America, because we think about it as these

607
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>these you know, peaceful natives living here and their culture

608
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>and then Christopher Columbus was the first one to show

609
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>up first, dude. Ever, Yeah, yeah, they never you know,

610
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 2>the stories are always like, you know, the Native Americans

611
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.559
<v Speaker 2>saw Christopher Columbus's ships, and their brains couldn't even comprehend

612
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.480
<v Speaker 2>what they were seeing, so they were invisible, like, which

613
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>is so bogus.

614
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's bull crap.

615
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:47.319
<v Speaker 2>So but you know people believe that.

616
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I know. So okay, you know what.

617
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:54.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about.

618
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>What I know exactly what you're talking about.

619
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 2>How like the they say, like the Native America freaking

620
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.920
<v Speaker 2>literally couldn't see the Well, there are eyeballs. It's like,

621
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>that's not how eyeballs work, dude.

622
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:06.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

623
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I think that there are a lot of

624
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>preposterous lives that have been perpetuated on humany. And I

625
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>think your comment about the space race is interesting because

626
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 1>wasn't it Russia who made it to space first?

627
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

628
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 1>So then we're like, well, we're going to go farther, We're.

629
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<v Speaker 3>Going to go to the moon.

630
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:20.079
<v Speaker 5>You know.

631
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 4>Then we're gonna get how we did it.

632
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:27.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, we're gonna forget how we get itbrick. Yeah.

633
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.079
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, we're gonna have video in public

634
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 1>domain of astronauts telling elementary school children we have no

635
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>clue how to even get past Van Allen radiation belt.

636
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like all right, but anyway, so back to the

637
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Native American stuff. I just think it's fascinating. You pull

638
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>that thread, the Templar thing, and then you know it's

639
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 1>like there's there's obviously a part of history there that

640
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>we've never explored. And then you start looking at their

641
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.079
<v Speaker 1>other stuff. It's like, whoa they're talking about they had

642
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the bones of Jesus. Oh that stuff, you know, and

643
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 1>the arcs coming in and you know that they've been

644
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:05.279
<v Speaker 1>like being cohorts with tribes in Mexico and Native America

645
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>for hundreds of years. I think it's very fascinating. So

646
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:09.559
<v Speaker 1>back to my premise.

647
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Question, and I'm trying to keep track as best I can.

648
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of buttons over here. Do you think

649
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 4>that the Templar Knights propelled the spiritual growth of the

650
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.640
<v Speaker 4>Native Americans? Or do you think the Native Americans propelled

651
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.599
<v Speaker 4>the spiritual growth of the Templar Knights? Or do you

652
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 4>think that they were communicating in the astral realm, knew

653
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 4>the secret handshake and eventually.

654
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, If I'm being realistic, I think

655
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 1>that they just probably had had a similar vibe, similar

656
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 1>practices and beliefs, and they got along, you know what

657
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's like kind of real recognized as real

658
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that they're like, hmmm, I'll meet you

659
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:53.359
<v Speaker 1>in the astral I mean.

660
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 4>But if you think about it, I don't think it's

661
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:56.200
<v Speaker 4>that far off. I really don't know.

662
00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 2>And there certainly could have been some sort of like

663
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 2>symbiotic growth between both.

664
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Learn from each other. Absolutely, I definitely think that happens,

665
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 1>because I mean mystics are learning.

666
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes, right, Like I think that I think that two people,

667
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean we're talking Monroe here, two people on different

668
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 4>sides of the world doing the same meditative practice to

669
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 4>the same frequencies could end up in the same place.

670
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 4>So you have Native Americans European Templar knights doing a

671
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 4>meditative practice reaching the same like level of enlightenment and

672
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 4>then kind of seeking one another out through maybe premeditation,

673
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 4>through maybe destiny or manifestation. For sure, Yeah, I can.

674
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 5>Agree with that.

675
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely could have been.

676
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think like, for example, I know we're all

677
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.480
<v Speaker 1>over the place here, but whatever what I'm saying spiritual

678
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.679
<v Speaker 1>they're spiritual masters and yeah, or they're like I'm the

679
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>same the focus of it's like a high con concentration

680
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 1>of spirituality. They're on the same frequency, you know what

681
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Right, And like if you go to Rosicrucians,

682
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 1>for example, completely different order. If you go to like

683
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the Amo RC, which is the I don't know what

684
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you'd call it, like the Foundation or whatever. That is

685
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the American Rosicrucian order today, the ancient mystic Order of

686
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.320
<v Speaker 1>rose crusis. You go to their website, you scour through

687
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 1>all the free available texts, you start reading through the documents,

688
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and there's a document on there. It might not be

689
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:27.639
<v Speaker 1>a free one now that I think about it doesn't matter,

690
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>but there's a document on there that gives you a

691
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 1>very in depth list of every order in the ancient

692
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>past that like influenced and progressed Rosicrucianism.

693
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh cool.

694
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.519
<v Speaker 1>So they're openly telling you like the Greeks, the Pythagorea

695
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Mystery School, the Persians, the Vedas, uh you know, the

696
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.519
<v Speaker 1>sufiis Alena Blovotsky even uh you know, they're telling you

697
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.559
<v Speaker 1>everything that has like advanced the order throughout time. So,

698
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:55.559
<v Speaker 1>like I think, to answer your question, like the myst

699
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the true seekers of mystical knowledge, even these orders are

700
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.559
<v Speaker 1>always like a adopting what works. It's like a scientist, right,

701
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 1>you test theories or like Monroe. You know, they tell you.

702
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>They're like, they're like, go find out for yourself.

703
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go go explore, adding it to their arsenal. They're

704
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.199
<v Speaker 2>adding the stuff that works to their arsenal.

705
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, this shit's real, I might as well use it. Yeah,

706
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 1>as long as it's good and it's not like some

707
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.280
<v Speaker 1>negative dark thing obviously that's implied, right.

708
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But and in terms of them like knowing the

709
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 2>same handshake and stuff, I think, yes, it's it's totally

710
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:29.360
<v Speaker 2>possible they could have been like communicating in some other realm.

711
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Sure, it's possible.

712
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 2>It's also possible that maybe the source information is the same.

713
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:36.679
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm getting.

714
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.320
<v Speaker 2>At, Like Atlantis, it all came from way way way

715
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:40.119
<v Speaker 2>back before.

716
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.119
<v Speaker 1>All exactly the point I'm trying to make, And.

717
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:44.679
<v Speaker 2>That's where it comes from. Yeah, So like they're actually

718
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.480
<v Speaker 2>just studying the same stuff because it's all the same

719
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:49.559
<v Speaker 2>source and they just have different languages to describe it.

720
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 2>But then when they wrap up, it's the same.

721
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, The answer to this handshake question,

722
00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:00.119
<v Speaker 4>it would also be the answer to the Egypt in

723
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 4>South American.

724
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:04.800
<v Speaker 1>The pyramids exactly. Yeah, that's the whole point I've been

725
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 1>trying to make is that it stands the reason, like

726
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the only reason I brought up the templars, you know,

727
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>coming over and having a kinship with natives of the Americas,

728
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>and like even having similar handshakes in some cultures in

729
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the Americas, and them recognizing each other as brothers of

730
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>their orders and being allowed to participate in their ceremonies

731
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and rituals. There has to be some sort of similar

732
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>lineage of knowledge. That was my whole theory. You nailed

733
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>it right on that. My whole idea was like, well,

734
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:32.760
<v Speaker 1>what if Atlantis doesn't just translate to like Tibet and Egypt,

735
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>but you know, Mexico. Every culture really, yeah, exactly like

736
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:43.719
<v Speaker 1>every culture. Yeah yeah, including Native Americans. So enough about that,

737
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you get the point. I do want to hit a

738
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit more of the Manley p. Hall thing because

739
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 1>I think it's very interesting. These are much shorter excerpts

740
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 1>but fascinate.

741
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:52.719
<v Speaker 3>So.

742
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.639
<v Speaker 1>The mythologies of many nations contain accounts of gods who

743
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>came out of the sea. Certain shamans among the American

744
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Indians tell of holy men dressed in birds feathers and

745
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:02.760
<v Speaker 1>wampum who rose. I don't know what wampum is, but

746
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that word many times. And Wampum who rose

747
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>out of the blue waters and instructed them in the

748
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>arts and crafts. Among the legends of the Chaldeans is

749
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>that of Owanus, a partly amphibious creature who came out

750
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>of the sea and taught the savage peoples along the

751
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 1>shore to read and write, till the soil cultivate herbs

752
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 1>for healing study the stars, established rational forms of government,

753
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and become conversant with the sacred mysteries among the mayas

754
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>quetzel Coodal or kuco Kan. The savior god, who some

755
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Christian scholars believed to have been Saint Thomas, issued from

756
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 1>the waters, and after instructing the people in the essentials

757
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>of civilization, wrote out to see on a magic raft

758
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.679
<v Speaker 1>of serpents to escape the wrath of the fierce god

759
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>of the fiery mirror. Tezcatlipoca. May not have been these

760
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 1>demi gods of a fabulous age who esdras like came

761
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:56.639
<v Speaker 1>out of the sea, or Atlantean priests. All that primitive

762
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:58.960
<v Speaker 1>man remembered of the Atlanteans was the glory of their

763
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>golden ornaments, the transcendency of their wisdom and the sanctity

764
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>of their symbols, the Cross and the serpent. That they

765
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 1>came in ships was soon forgotten, for untutored minds considered

766
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:13.320
<v Speaker 1>even boats as supernatural. Wherever the Atlanteans prosulied, they erected

767
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>pyramids and temples patterned after the Great Sanctuary in the

768
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:19.760
<v Speaker 1>City of the Golden Gates, which is believed to have

769
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>existed in Atlantis, such as the ramid excuse me, the

770
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:27.440
<v Speaker 1>origin of the pyramids of Egypt, Mexico, and Central America.

771
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>The mounds in Normandy and Britain, as well as those

772
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:33.519
<v Speaker 1>of the American Indians, are remnants of a similar culture.

773
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.639
<v Speaker 1>You have like the Serpent Mount in Ohio. Right in

774
00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:40.639
<v Speaker 1>the midst of the Atlantean program of world colonization and conversion,

775
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 1>the cataclysms which Saint Atlantis began. The initiate priests of

776
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the Sacred Feather, who promised to come back to their

777
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>missionary settlements, never returned, and after the lapse of centuries,

778
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>tradition preserved only a fantastic account of gods who came

779
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 1>from a place where the sea now is. So basically,

780
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.599
<v Speaker 1>what he's saying here is like what we talked about

781
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the idea that there was some precursor society, or we

782
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:07.760
<v Speaker 1>existed in a different race entirely where maybe.

783
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 4>We were more spiritual.

784
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 1>There's so many theories on Atlantis ye that over time

785
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:16.679
<v Speaker 1>we really were disseminating this knowledge freely around the world.

786
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 1>There was a cataclysm that wiped this out, and now

787
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>that story is preserved in the.

788
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Mythology through mythology, the myths of gods and yeah, yeah,

789
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.719
<v Speaker 2>it's it's like we talk about with mythology all the

790
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:33.880
<v Speaker 2>time that it's like archetypal symbology. Yeah, it's not it's

791
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.679
<v Speaker 2>most likely not literal, but it's a good way to

792
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:41.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, because gods are like humanoid, we can relate

793
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:45.679
<v Speaker 2>to gods. We can somewhat fathom and understand gods. It's

794
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.159
<v Speaker 2>like somewhat relatable. So it's like easy to wrap our

795
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:53.159
<v Speaker 2>minds around. But it's a it's like sort of a

796
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 2>fantastic way to describe. No, we just had like the

797
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:01.000
<v Speaker 2>knowledge and we had the technology and we lost it.

798
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that truth we talk about this all the time.

799
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not like breaking news or anything, but truth has

800
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:12.320
<v Speaker 1>contained a metaphor, yeah, an allegory. It's like there was

801
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>this old A life of LEVI quote not necessarily, you know,

802
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>if I if I quote a character, that doesn't mean

803
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:20.639
<v Speaker 1>I like love everything they about. And I got their

804
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.760
<v Speaker 1>address and I'm sending a mail. I'm just saying that

805
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:26.599
<v Speaker 1>they have done research into a particular subject and they're

806
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>saying something that you know, broken clocks, broken clocks. Yeah,

807
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.280
<v Speaker 1>they exactly, But a life is LEVI love him or

808
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:36.559
<v Speaker 1>hate him. Something he said that I think is very

809
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.559
<v Speaker 1>profound and is very true is allegory is the mother

810
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>of all dogma. Yeah, in other words, all mythological and

811
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>religious dogma or truth rather comes from allegory. Parable that

812
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 1>even says in the Bible that Jesus spake in parables. Yeah,

813
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and Lord knows, I don't like this guy, but every

814
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>now and then, a broken clock is right twice a day.

815
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Aleister Crowley one of the most you know, disturbing human

816
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 1>beings around, at least in the information that you know,

817
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 1>we all have access to. Right, he has a very

818
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:08.559
<v Speaker 1>very nasty body of material out there. But there's a

819
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>couple of things that he've said that I'm like, Okay,

820
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:12.119
<v Speaker 1>that's actually true.

821
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Right, Truth is truth, man.

822
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it was something that he talks about and

823
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 1>I do think that this is inherently true. Like another

824
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>way to say it is, I don't think it takes

825
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a bad just just because somebody is bad and someone's evil,

826
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean that you throw out everything truth, truth

827
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:32.079
<v Speaker 1>is truth, far and be right literally exactly. Yeah, you can.

828
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.719
<v Speaker 1>You can. You can. People can say things, and they

829
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 1>can they can be horribly you don't like them, but

830
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>they still can say things that are true. And this

831
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:41.199
<v Speaker 1>is one of those things that particularly that he said

832
00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that I do think is true. And his belief was

833
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that through ritual through rather through ritual enactment of the

834
00:42:53.760 --> 00:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like through a drama, ritualistic enactment of the life

835
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and death of a god, you resurrect its energy into

836
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:05.199
<v Speaker 1>the world.

837
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, you know what I'm saying.

838
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which would make sense why a lot of these

839
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>orders like Freemasons or even like in Yale and Scold

840
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and Bones they did this ship or all these other orders.

841
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, even in church every Easter, you know, you

842
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:20.960
<v Speaker 1>watch the freaking you know, all the little kids get

843
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>up and they sing about the death and resurrection of Jesus.

844
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's doing this. Everyone's doing ritual drama enactment of the

845
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>life and the death of their God. Why always, because

846
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it's resurrecting the energy into our life, into our being.

847
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>We're connecting with that archetypal resonance.

848
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:41.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, so the reason you know, they say, like, uh,

849
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.440
<v Speaker 2>in America, like people only go to church on Easter

850
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:45.280
<v Speaker 2>and Christmas.

851
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's called being a ceo. Yeah.

852
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it brings the energy back up, like you know,

853
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.320
<v Speaker 2>that's it's one of the big surges of energy in

854
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.880
<v Speaker 2>the year that you know, it's that resurrected energy. Yeah,

855
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.039
<v Speaker 2>all the energy around the thought of the resurrection, it's

856
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:06.199
<v Speaker 2>is literally culminating an actual energy.

857
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

858
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.559
<v Speaker 1>People watch the passion in the Christ they weep tears

859
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:15.159
<v Speaker 1>because they're sitting there and they're uh fetishizing the torture

860
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and dismemberment of their God, you know, and that sounds horrible,

861
00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 1>but I mean again, Jesus, or rather in the Bible,

862
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, one of the thing commandments, don't

863
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>make a graven image of me. All right, well, now

864
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.480
<v Speaker 1>we all were necklace Jesus.

865
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Jesus.

866
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like there there is sort of a

867
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:36.639
<v Speaker 1>little bit of like a fetish say it for me,

868
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:41.639
<v Speaker 1>fetishization of the slaughter of our of our God, you

869
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And it's like, why are we

870
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:48.559
<v Speaker 1>doing that? Because it's it's perpetuating an archetypal energy. You

871
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:52.039
<v Speaker 1>could say it's morphogenetic resident whatever. Anyway, I'm going on

872
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.599
<v Speaker 1>a tangent there. So back to uh, back to Native Americans.

873
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.239
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it can be argued that there you know

874
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 1>that this Atlantean wisdom was transmitted through Native American culture, which,

875
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>weirdly enough, is something that I'd never thought about in

876
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.119
<v Speaker 1>my life until a few months ago when I started

877
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.559
<v Speaker 1>having some conversations with some templar people kind of going

878
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:12.480
<v Speaker 1>down that rabbit hole. Then started doing research for this episode.

879
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Reading Manly Pahall, I'm like, dang, that makes sense. So

880
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 1>I read one more quote from It's the Smallest One,

881
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's from the Secret Teachings of All Ages. Again,

882
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.679
<v Speaker 1>the Indian does not worship the sun. He rather regards

883
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:25.159
<v Speaker 1>this shining orb as an appropriate symbol of the great

884
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 1>and good Spirit who forever radiates life to his children,

885
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>an Indian symbolism. The serpent, especially the Great Serpent, corroborates

886
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:34.880
<v Speaker 1>other evidence pointing to the presence of the mysteries on

887
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the North American continent. The flying serpent is the Atlantean

888
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:40.760
<v Speaker 1>token of the initiate. The seven headed Snake represents the

889
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:44.559
<v Speaker 1>seven Great Atlantean Cities and also the seven great prehistoric

890
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.920
<v Speaker 1>schools of esoteric philosophy. Moreover, who can doubt the presence

891
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Secret Doctrine in the Americas when he gazes

892
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>upon the Great Serpent Mound in Adams County, Ohio, where

893
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the huge reptile is represented as disgorging the egg of existence.

894
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Many American Indian tribes are reincarnationists. Some are transmigrationists, which

895
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>is the idea that the soul is, you know, moving

896
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>through different phases of existence. It's kind of a similar

897
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:16.840
<v Speaker 1>thing to reincarnation, is slightly different. Anyway, So we're gonna

898
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 1>pivot now because that actually took a lot longer than

899
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought it would, and still haven't gone into the

900
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Lakota or the Cherokee. So anyway, all right, it's no

901
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:33.039
<v Speaker 1>secret that my family's experiences are very like worldwide, very

902
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:35.599
<v Speaker 1>heavily compared to the Lakota tribe. Are you guys familiar

903
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:40.679
<v Speaker 1>with this? Vaguely so not at all? Really, I thought

904
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 1>we talked about that. That's great news because now you're

905
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna know why. So the Lakota people, I think they're

906
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:50.719
<v Speaker 1>also known as the Sioux the Sue, you know, if

907
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I remember correctly, they're the same people's. If I do

908
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>not remember correctly, I am ashamed. The Lakota people have

909
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:01.519
<v Speaker 1>a prophecy, and it's actually the origin of the peace pipe.

910
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:03.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, you always see these things about like Native

911
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:05.480
<v Speaker 1>American smoking peace pipes. So this is where it comes from.

912
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.280
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's probably better if I read it

913
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.159
<v Speaker 1>because it's hard for me to memorize exact like to

914
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:16.199
<v Speaker 1>describe all the details of it. But essentially it involves

915
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the lady right, So an ancient time, this is the

916
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 1>myth like the Lakota people's version or account of you

917
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:27.199
<v Speaker 1>know what happened. So in ancient times, when the Lakota

918
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 1>people were starving, Chiefs Standing hollow Horn sent two scouts

919
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:34.719
<v Speaker 1>to search for game. As they traveled, a radiant woman

920
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:38.800
<v Speaker 1>appeared walking in a white cloud. She was beautiful beyond

921
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 1>human description. One of the scouts was overtaken with lust

922
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.280
<v Speaker 1>as he approached her with impure intent, A mysterious mist

923
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>enveloped him. When it cleared, his body was nothing but bones.

924
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>The other scout Awe struck and reverent lowered his gaze.

925
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.199
<v Speaker 1>She spoke to him, calling him brother and telling him

926
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.280
<v Speaker 1>to return to his people and prepare for her coming.

927
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.039
<v Speaker 1>When she arrived at the look Coda village, she brought

928
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 1>with her the sacred pipe or the Chanoonpa, which is

929
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:06.719
<v Speaker 1>like the peace pipe, and taught them the ways of

930
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>living in harmony with the wakan Tonka or the Great Mystery,

931
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 1>the Great Mystery.

932
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, you know that's set awful little thing in

933
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.719
<v Speaker 2>my brain. Tooeah was Great Mystery.

934
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:21.800
<v Speaker 1>The Great Mystery, or the Creator. She stayed for four days,

935
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.800
<v Speaker 1>during which she transmitted profound spiritual teachings. Before she left,

936
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:27.639
<v Speaker 1>she told them that she would return some day when

937
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the world needs her most. And as she departed, she

938
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.519
<v Speaker 1>rolled on the earth and transformed into a white buffalo calf,

939
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>disappearing into the horizon. The sacred pipe she brings connects

940
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the sky in the earth, the masculine and the feminine.

941
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:42.440
<v Speaker 1>If you think about it, there's a little stick the masculine,

942
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and then there's a little bowl that receives the tobacco.

943
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.000
<v Speaker 1>It's the feminine and they're connected. Whoa, It's like the

944
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:50.239
<v Speaker 1>sky and the earth, connecting it coming one and you ritualistically,

945
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, smoke the tobacco through this pipe and it

946
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:58.440
<v Speaker 1>brings you peace. So it represents the masculine and the feminine,

947
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:01.519
<v Speaker 1>the visible and the invisible, just as the tree of life,

948
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:04.039
<v Speaker 1>the axis moondy, or the cross does in other traditions,

949
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:05.840
<v Speaker 1>right or it's also the idea of a mun ra

950
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the invisible and the visible aspect of God. The idea

951
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that there's a visible spiritual sun that is a like

952
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the raw aspect of creation. But then there's ammun which

953
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:20.360
<v Speaker 1>is the invisible portion. You know that there's the element

954
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.360
<v Speaker 1>of creation that we can't see, we can't sense. It's

955
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 1>like the force, you know, it's all around us. The

956
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 1>natives have of America, that is, they have this concept,

957
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:30.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, the great Spirit in the sky, like it's

958
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:35.760
<v Speaker 1>everywhere you know, we breathe. It's it gives us life.

959
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:39.119
<v Speaker 1>She taught the seven Sacred Rites when she was there

960
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 1>for four days, allegedly n ep the sweat Lodge ceremony.

961
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:47.840
<v Speaker 1>We all know about that one. I would love to

962
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.679
<v Speaker 1>do that someday. Actually, purification through steam symbolizing rebirth in

963
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the womb of Mother Earth. I don't even know how

964
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:59.360
<v Speaker 1>to pronounce this one, but I'm gonna try. Hum bleed

965
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 1>che yap be. The vision quest a rite of passage,

966
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:06.559
<v Speaker 1>seeking guidance or purpose through solitude and fasting. They're getting harder.

967
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>We we want We won Young Wachipi the Sun Dance,

968
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a powerful ceremony of sacrifice, endurance, and renewal of the

969
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.960
<v Speaker 1>sacred covenant with the wakon Tonka or the great mystery,

970
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the creator, the honka, the making of relatives, creating bonds

971
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.519
<v Speaker 1>stronger than blood. The ritual adoption that strengthens community. So

972
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like brotherhood. You know, you're you're increasing your spiritual family.

973
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of like you know, these orders

974
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 1>right us not the a we chaalo Wampi, the coming

975
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>of age ceremony for girls, honoring the sacred cycle and

976
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>roll of women as life givers. The thappa one kai

977
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:52.000
<v Speaker 1>ya Yapi the throwing of the ball ceremony, the symbolic

978
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:53.960
<v Speaker 1>game where a girl throws a ball in four directions,

979
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 1>teaching the pursuit of wisdom and balance. And then the

980
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Wanagi Yappi, the soul keeping ceremony. It's a ritual that

981
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.880
<v Speaker 1>honors this of the dead and helps them transition to

982
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the afterlife, and she imparted upon people. Several prophecies, these irrelevant.

983
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:12.320
<v Speaker 1>The prophecy of the Black Snake. The black snake will

984
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>come and it will cross the land, bringing death and

985
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:18.280
<v Speaker 1>destruction with it. This is interpreted as an oil pipeline,

986
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:23.199
<v Speaker 1>bringing environmental destruction and threatening sacred lands and waters. Many

987
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:26.320
<v Speaker 1>people actually believe that maybe do you remember the Dakota

988
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Access pipeline years ago? They believe maybe that's it. I mean,

989
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>how can we know for sure, But people were freaking,

990
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:34.039
<v Speaker 1>this is it. It's the black snake. You know. It

991
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>goes really far across the country, and it was devastating

992
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.280
<v Speaker 1>to people's sacred land. It was like a serious thing

993
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:40.239
<v Speaker 1>back then. Yeah.

994
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like devastating.

995
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 1>It was like relocating sacred sites against their will.

996
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:45.519
<v Speaker 2>You know.

997
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:51.639
<v Speaker 1>The prophecy foretells that many will rise up to stop it,

998
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:55.519
<v Speaker 1>and a great spiritual awakening will follow. Timeline checks out

999
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the black snake is also symbolic of greed, technological imbalance,

1000
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:02.119
<v Speaker 1>and the disconnection from nature. Prophecy number two, the return

1001
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 1>of the white buffalo calf woman. I think that's already happening.

1002
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>The white buffalo calf woman promised that she would return

1003
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.760
<v Speaker 1>doing during a time of great need, when the earth

1004
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 1>is sick, the animals are dying, and the people have

1005
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>forgotten the sacred ways. The birth of the white buffalo calves.

1006
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:18.639
<v Speaker 1>By the way, like two or three have been born

1007
00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:19.400
<v Speaker 1>in the last few years.

1008
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say last year one was born.

1009
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:25.719
<v Speaker 2>I've seen the articles and stuff. Yeah, it's kind of

1010
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 2>uncanny that it's happened so frequently in the past.

1011
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Comes extremely rare, right, And I think I think it

1012
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:34.800
<v Speaker 1>was two. I think two have been born in the

1013
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:37.000
<v Speaker 1>last five years. One was born last year. The internet

1014
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.519
<v Speaker 1>was freaking out. It's the return of the white buffalo calf. Yeah,

1015
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:40.639
<v Speaker 1>come on, duh.

1016
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1017
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:45.039
<v Speaker 1>Also, I think it's in Israel, there's a similar prophecy,

1018
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.159
<v Speaker 1>but it's about the birth of the red heifer, which

1019
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.280
<v Speaker 1>has also happened. I think prophecy everywhere is starting to

1020
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:53.599
<v Speaker 1>it's all aligning, you know, Like I think many different

1021
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:58.599
<v Speaker 1>cultural prophecies are simultaneously becoming true, and I think they're

1022
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:03.480
<v Speaker 1>all connected. Right, So the birth of the buffalo calf

1023
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:07.320
<v Speaker 1>is seen as the fulfillment of this prophecy, signaling the

1024
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 1>return of the white buffalo calf. Women into the world.

1025
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:13.239
<v Speaker 1>They are said to mark attorney point in the balance,

1026
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.679
<v Speaker 1>offering an opportunity for healing, unity, the reawakening of our

1027
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:21.559
<v Speaker 1>connection to nature and the Great Mystery. Actually, apparently multiple

1028
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:23.840
<v Speaker 1>have been seen since the nineteen nineties, but I mean

1029
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:26.679
<v Speaker 1>literally one was born last year. I was posting about

1030
00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:32.559
<v Speaker 1>it on Instagram, almost story the Time of the Rainbow Warriors.

1031
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:37.199
<v Speaker 1>This is my favorite one. So this prophecy is not

1032
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:42.440
<v Speaker 1>technically originating from Lakota, but it's embraced by Lakota elders.

1033
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.360
<v Speaker 1>There will come a time when people of all colors, creeds,

1034
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and backgrounds will come together to protect the earth. They

1035
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:50.960
<v Speaker 1>will be called the Rainbow Warriors, many colors of the Rainbow,

1036
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, people from all these different religious and spiritual

1037
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:57.519
<v Speaker 1>faiths coming together to bring forth the Great Mystery back

1038
00:53:57.519 --> 00:53:59.519
<v Speaker 1>into the world. So we're the Warriors of the Rainbow.

1039
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:00.639
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

1040
00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:05.199
<v Speaker 1>They're not soldiers, but peaceful protectors of life, spirit and earth.

1041
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Says ancient knowledge will awaken in people from many nations.

1042
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 1>It reflects the cross cultural resurgence of indigenous wisdom, plant medicine.

1043
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, not time and ancestral connection.

1044
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.119
<v Speaker 5>You like, well, sorry, I'm backtracking a little bit, back

1045
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 5>to the prophecy. Please, it just rang a bell because

1046
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm sure I remembered that there was some sort

1047
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:35.119
<v Speaker 5>of Native American prophecy about a time of spiritual awakening

1048
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 5>happening that coincided with a man in a red hat.

1049
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.119
<v Speaker 5>That's hope And I just googled it to check it,

1050
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.000
<v Speaker 5>and not only it's even more crazy than I thought,

1051
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.119
<v Speaker 5>it says that, but it also says in addition to

1052
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:50.599
<v Speaker 5>the red hatted figure, the prophecy speaks of two mighty

1053
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:56.519
<v Speaker 5>and wise assistants, one carrying the swastika sign. There's the

1054
00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 5>holy little Musk thing. Remember that I remember I do.

1055
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, God.

1056
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:05.320
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting, but so elaborate on the prophecy. It's saying

1057
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that these are things that will happen, that will be

1058
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:11.199
<v Speaker 1>signs that wait, let me read it. Yeah, whoa. And

1059
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:15.079
<v Speaker 1>that's just to be clear, that's Hopeye prophecy, which, yeah.

1060
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:17.079
<v Speaker 5>The Hopey prophecy about money in a red hat is

1061
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:20.320
<v Speaker 5>a significant element within the spiritual and cultural traditions of

1062
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:24.199
<v Speaker 5>the Hopee people. According to the prophecy, and money in

1063
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:26.400
<v Speaker 5>a red hat will emerge during a time of great

1064
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:30.440
<v Speaker 5>upheaval and transformation bringing about a period of purification and change.

1065
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Who interesting, that's deep. They also had the the Kachinka comments,

1066
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 1>the red and the blue comets, which they call them kachinka,

1067
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:43.639
<v Speaker 1>and I think it was last year or the year

1068
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:46.480
<v Speaker 1>before one of those happened. It was like a significant

1069
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:48.239
<v Speaker 1>celestial event. Alex and I were talking about it on

1070
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:52.039
<v Speaker 1>full disclosure. I cannot quote that exactly which episode that

1071
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:53.880
<v Speaker 1>was because we don't even write descriptions in them, But

1072
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:57.400
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't an episode where we almost entirely.

1073
00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Talked about meteor comments.

1074
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the hope. He said that there would be a

1075
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:05.559
<v Speaker 1>blue and a red comment. They call him Kachinka, and

1076
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like a great sign in the heavens that win

1077
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:10.079
<v Speaker 1>this blue comet, and then it's either the red one

1078
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:12.039
<v Speaker 1>first and then the blue one or I can't remember

1079
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:14.199
<v Speaker 1>which order. And a few years ago there was a

1080
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.039
<v Speaker 1>comment it might have been last year, I really can't remember.

1081
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:18.039
<v Speaker 1>It was in the old apartment that we just moved from.

1082
00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Last year. There was a major common event that at

1083
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:25.320
<v Speaker 1>that time everyone was hyped about, and me and Alex

1084
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:28.239
<v Speaker 1>did a whole full disclosure basically about it. I remember talking

1085
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:30.400
<v Speaker 1>about Kachinka and the Hopey prophecy, and we went through

1086
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the several We might have even talked about the red

1087
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:35.320
<v Speaker 1>hat thing back then. We didn't.

1088
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:37.280
<v Speaker 4>No, that's news to me.

1089
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:40.239
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about that with somebody I can't remember who.

1090
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:43.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think we've talked about that on air.

1091
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:46.159
<v Speaker 4>I do remember talking about the comments. It was just

1092
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:48.559
<v Speaker 4>a while ago, probably fifty to fifty episodes ago.

1093
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:53.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, at least what if the comments, the comments represent

1094
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:55.480
<v Speaker 5>the Red and the Blue parties?

1095
00:56:56.840 --> 00:57:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I never thought about that so thought, yeah, yeah, there's.

1096
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 2>A lot of discord.

1097
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that shit falling apart anyway.

1098
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:08.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but there was a blue comment though, Yeah, there was.

1099
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:10.599
<v Speaker 1>It actually was was that around the time we did

1100
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the full disclosure. Let me look it up, man, might

1101
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:16.119
<v Speaker 1>as well. I'm just gonna type Kachinka comment, even though

1102
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>they didn't call it that. But I'm uh, nah, this

1103
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:21.960
<v Speaker 1>is from five years ago.

1104
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:26.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it wouldn't have been that.

1105
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh they call it kachina. I've been sitting here saying Kachinka.

1106
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:34.559
<v Speaker 1>It's Kachina. But I know there was a comment a

1107
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:38.760
<v Speaker 1>year or two ago. Uh, it might be hard for

1108
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:40.239
<v Speaker 1>me to find right now. On the fly, I would

1109
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:43.400
<v Speaker 1>probably have to do some more digging, but uh, I

1110
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:44.960
<v Speaker 1>want to say it was last year, dude.

1111
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 2>It is pretty wild all of these different like prophecies

1112
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:53.239
<v Speaker 2>all kind of happening all around the same time from

1113
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:56.840
<v Speaker 2>different cultures, different places, like in the world.

1114
00:57:56.800 --> 00:58:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Like the idea of this blue the Blue Star Kachina, right,

1115
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:04.239
<v Speaker 1>the Hope you belief is that when this star comes

1116
00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:07.400
<v Speaker 1>and brings a great sign in the heavens, that it's

1117
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.239
<v Speaker 1>the breaking down of the Fourth World. And I'm still

1118
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:11.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna get into that. I haven't gotten to. That's part

1119
00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:14.360
<v Speaker 1>of the prophecies. It's the breaking down of the fourth

1120
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.920
<v Speaker 1>world and the signaling, the signaling of the beginning of

1121
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:20.639
<v Speaker 1>the fourth World, which is like basically their equivalent of

1122
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the Age. I mean, did I say the Fourth World again?

1123
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I meant the Fifth World, which is basically the age

1124
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:30.800
<v Speaker 1>of aquaries. So anyway, so the four ages of humanity, right,

1125
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a similarity between the Hope and the Lakota. There's

1126
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:41.760
<v Speaker 1>four distinct ages of worlds, and then the coming Age

1127
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:45.000
<v Speaker 1>is the fifth world. With each world there's a cataclysm

1128
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and a rebirth. So the first world, it was long

1129
00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>ago we were in harmony with nature. People in animals

1130
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:54.280
<v Speaker 1>speak the same language. Second World division, conflict, forgetting the sacred,

1131
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 1>the third world materialism and violence, rise of Empires. I

1132
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.559
<v Speaker 1>think that was probably two thousand years ago when the

1133
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:03.000
<v Speaker 1>empires started coming up, the Roman Empire, all this stuff.

1134
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:06.320
<v Speaker 1>The Bible was written. The fourth world, the current age.

1135
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:11.559
<v Speaker 1>We're spiritually sick, we're disconnected from nature. The fifth world

1136
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 1>is the coming age, which is the time of restoration,

1137
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:18.039
<v Speaker 1>spiritual renewal and unity with the earth. It's like Aquarius,

1138
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:19.519
<v Speaker 1>you know. And the idea is that when the white

1139
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>buffalo calf woman returns to the world, that will be

1140
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:25.480
<v Speaker 1>entering the age of the Fifth World. Ah Aquarius, Yeah,

1141
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:31.239
<v Speaker 1>you know. They say that there are signs of the

1142
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:36.400
<v Speaker 1>earth being sick and the call forever the Rainbow Warriors

1143
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>from around the world to return to their ancient truths

1144
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and began, you know, the process of healing the world.

1145
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:45.360
<v Speaker 1>So the mysterious signs are like animals dying suddenly and

1146
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:50.760
<v Speaker 1>mysterious the unnatural weather patterns, the disappearance of important parts

1147
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of the ecosystem like birds and bees, fires and floods

1148
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:58.400
<v Speaker 1>across the land. Hello, and people forgetting how to pray.

1149
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:01.400
<v Speaker 2>It's all happening, yeah, I mean that we've just had

1150
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:04.079
<v Speaker 2>what this year or last year, when was it in

1151
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:06.920
<v Speaker 2>the Appalachian Mountains. There was it was a it was

1152
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:09.159
<v Speaker 2>a flood that happened up in the mountains of North

1153
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Carolina September of last year that they were calling like

1154
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:16.920
<v Speaker 2>a thousand year flood. Like it was such a rare flood.

1155
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, flooding in the mountains is like whatd of

1156
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:25.000
<v Speaker 2>And there were entire cities just wiped off the face

1157
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:29.039
<v Speaker 2>of the mountains, places that you know, we've all visited

1158
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.920
<v Speaker 2>our entire lives, like growing up as kids and stuff,

1159
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:37.719
<v Speaker 2>like a generational A thousand year storm swept through and

1160
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:41.480
<v Speaker 2>flooded like so rare, and it came out of nowhere.

1161
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:42.960
<v Speaker 1>For a lot of people, it was the end of

1162
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:48.119
<v Speaker 1>the world. Oh, there was like twelve thousand people reported missing. Yeah,

1163
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the news only reported that like one hundred and thirty

1164
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:53.400
<v Speaker 1>people died.

1165
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, Oh no, when you see the damage, I

1166
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:01.440
<v Speaker 2>mean there were it wasn't just the cities being taken

1167
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:06.440
<v Speaker 2>away is already insane. Roads were collapsing and just like

1168
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:10.159
<v Speaker 2>like falling into the earth like it was cataclysmic.

1169
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:12.960
<v Speaker 1>It was like if you could imagine like a general

1170
01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:17.519
<v Speaker 1>store in a small town. Entire stores like the size

1171
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:22.840
<v Speaker 1>of my house or bigger were floating down gone water gone.

1172
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:24.559
<v Speaker 2>Literally floating.

1173
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:27.480
<v Speaker 1>There are some small towns that were completely wiped off

1174
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the map. They are gone, every building completely gone. When

1175
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:33.599
<v Speaker 1>the water drained, there was nothing left. Nothing cataclysmic. This

1176
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:36.039
<v Speaker 1>was justin December. It was like a national crisis in America.

1177
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was people from They were sending the National Guard,

1178
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:42.039
<v Speaker 2>they were sending people from all over the country here

1179
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:43.039
<v Speaker 2>to help with it.

1180
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:45.079
<v Speaker 1>And then we had the fires in California, yep.

1181
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:46.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's a whole.

1182
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Other thing there. You talk to anybody there, they're like,

1183
01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:51.079
<v Speaker 1>something's fishy about that. Some people think they were trying

1184
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:55.679
<v Speaker 1>to I don't have Yeah, I mean I have. I

1185
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.559
<v Speaker 1>have friends in Hollywood who were like thinking, oh, I.

1186
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:01.239
<v Speaker 4>Have theories people above them.

1187
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Well that too. I don't know about that. But I

1188
01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:07.960
<v Speaker 1>have friends in Hollywood, like Hollywood people who were like,

1189
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:11.559
<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers above us, we're trying to wipe us out. You know,

1190
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:12.559
<v Speaker 1>we always think about.

1191
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:16.599
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood as there was videos of people like setting things

1192
01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:17.039
<v Speaker 2>on fire.

1193
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot, doesn't surprise me.

1194
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:23.280
<v Speaker 2>A lot of videos of people intentionally setting things on fire.

1195
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:26.639
<v Speaker 2>A lot of videos, Yeah, in California, not just a

1196
01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:30.519
<v Speaker 2>video or two, like a bunch of videos scary.

1197
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:35.159
<v Speaker 1>That's totally insane. Yeah, totally insane. Yeah, but yeah, I

1198
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:36.559
<v Speaker 1>think it's pretty safe to say that we're in the

1199
01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:38.960
<v Speaker 1>fourth world and the fifth world is coming. So I

1200
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:42.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about how I heard about the Lakota

1201
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:43.519
<v Speaker 1>prophecy really quick, and then I'm gonna move on to

1202
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Cherokee really quick. And then I mean, I'm shocked in

1203
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:49.320
<v Speaker 1>an hour and think I did this much material here.

1204
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:53.000
<v Speaker 1>So uh, you know, you guys carry me through that one.

1205
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:58.760
<v Speaker 1>The Lakota People prophecy was brought to my attention by

1206
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Jim Zimmy Van and the Sea. There was a time

1207
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:05.719
<v Speaker 1>when Tom DeLong was courting us. I know, you guys,

1208
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about that in the early stages of the show.

1209
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:10.760
<v Speaker 1>He was getting real chummy with us. He was trying

1210
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:14.719
<v Speaker 1>to like, you know, be involved with us, and for

1211
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:19.480
<v Speaker 1>various reasons that didn't pan out, thank christ. Right, And

1212
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:23.400
<v Speaker 1>something at the time that they were very interested in

1213
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:25.400
<v Speaker 1>was the white Buffalo calf woman. And they were like

1214
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:29.719
<v Speaker 1>genuinely of the belief that that apparition because it is

1215
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:32.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a genuine apparition. Just like the Lady of Guadalupe

1216
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:39.440
<v Speaker 1>or Lords France or Fatima right Portugal. There's a genuine

1217
01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:43.360
<v Speaker 1>belief in the CIA and the I guess you could

1218
01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:47.280
<v Speaker 1>say the military or the whoever, the upper echelon of

1219
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:49.800
<v Speaker 1>society are the invisible college, whatever you want to call

1220
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:54.519
<v Speaker 1>these people. They believe that the white buffalo calf woman

1221
01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:58.199
<v Speaker 1>is one of the many appearances of the lady. They

1222
01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:01.960
<v Speaker 1>consider it a very real of that is connected to

1223
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:03.159
<v Speaker 1>our event.

1224
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it lines up almost exactly like it's it's.

1225
01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:08.440
<v Speaker 1>The same exact probably the same thing. Yeah, and their

1226
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:11.920
<v Speaker 1>primitive language. I mean, this was probably hundreds of years ago, right,

1227
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the exact date, to be honest, I

1228
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:16.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't to look that up. But so I thought that

1229
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:19.519
<v Speaker 1>was very interesting, and then I might get into the

1230
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Cherokee people, and I want to expand on that. But again,

1231
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:23.679
<v Speaker 1>I was having this conversation with Jim Simmy Van. I know,

1232
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:26.679
<v Speaker 1>people probably at home listening know exactly who that is.

1233
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:29.280
<v Speaker 1>But he's this high level he's he's one of the

1234
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.000
<v Speaker 1>highest level figures in the CIA. He's like a program director.

1235
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:35.760
<v Speaker 1>We were in New York City having a conversation with him,

1236
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:38.039
<v Speaker 1>and he was like do you guys have any Cherokee

1237
01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:40.079
<v Speaker 1>roots in your ancestry And we're like, yeah, actually we do.

1238
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:45.119
<v Speaker 1>He was like, interesting, we think that that could have

1239
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:47.159
<v Speaker 1>something to do with the phenomenon. And we're like what

1240
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:48.559
<v Speaker 1>does that mean? And they're like, well, we just know

1241
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:50.559
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people with experiences in their lives

1242
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:53.199
<v Speaker 1>tend to after doing a little bit of research, have

1243
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Cherokee ancestry. Personally, you know, I've had a lot of

1244
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:02.000
<v Speaker 1>experience with the phenomenon. I would, you know, wager a

1245
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:05.320
<v Speaker 1>lot more than them. Where their eggheads and laboratories, asking

1246
01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:09.400
<v Speaker 1>people questions and they're trying to reach answers Like I'm

1247
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:11.400
<v Speaker 1>a kid playing Xbox and my dad runs in my room.

1248
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:12.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like get out right now. And you know, we're

1249
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:16.159
<v Speaker 1>seeing the shit and I've seen it with thousands of people.

1250
01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:20.119
<v Speaker 1>We haven't talked about this on the main show. I've

1251
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:22.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of been thinking lately, I actually do want to,

1252
01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:24.800
<v Speaker 1>even though I said I don't, but contact in the

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01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:28.159
<v Speaker 1>desert this for example, we just literally skywatched with a

1254
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:32.360
<v Speaker 1>thousand people. That's one night Azelia Fest a few months ago,

1255
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:35.079
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and fifty people in one night Riverfest, two

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01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:38.159
<v Speaker 1>hundred people and there's so many other events, Like I

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01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:42.280
<v Speaker 1>have literally skywatched with thousands of people in my life.

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01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Y'all have at this point, or if not a thousand,

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01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:49.119
<v Speaker 1>close to it. There is no possible way that of

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01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the thousands of people that I've seen in my life,

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01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that every one of them have seen the phenomenon that

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01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:57.400
<v Speaker 1>they all got terokey. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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01:05:57.639 --> 01:05:59.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's some weird correlation there, but I don't think

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01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:02.039
<v Speaker 1>that necessarily has anything to do with it now. But

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01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:04.599
<v Speaker 1>he was telling me, he was like, looking at the Cherokee,

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01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:08.159
<v Speaker 1>looking at their spiritual belief we believe. When I say we,

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01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean like the people in the program, right, the

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01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:16.440
<v Speaker 1>CIA whatever, they believe that the ancient spiritual beliefs have

1269
01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:19.559
<v Speaker 1>to do with the study of uphology in the phenomenon,

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01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and they believe that the Cherokee people really we're interacting

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01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.599
<v Speaker 1>with the phenomenon, not just folk tale, but like really yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got to think and I was like, wow,

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01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:32.639
<v Speaker 1>that's really interesting. What are the I guess you could

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01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:36.239
<v Speaker 1>say folklore or spiritual beliefs? Yeah, of the Cherokee people.

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01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:40.760
<v Speaker 1>So they have a three world cosmology. There are three

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01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:43.119
<v Speaker 1>realms of existence, the upper world, which is the place

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01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:47.119
<v Speaker 1>of order, spirit beings, the Great Spirit, right, light and peace.

1278
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:50.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like heaven, perfect harmony. You have the mental world,

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01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:53.400
<v Speaker 1>which is our world, the earth where humans and animals live.

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01:06:53.679 --> 01:07:01.480
<v Speaker 1>The underworld chaos. There's just these like powerful chaotic forces.

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01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:04.000
<v Speaker 1>It's very dark and gloomy, you could say that, you know,

1282
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:08.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like the realm of death and change. You have

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01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:11.559
<v Speaker 1>the little people, the U, the yun we soon Stee,

1284
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:16.360
<v Speaker 1>supernatural kind of elf like beings. They're very tiny, very powerful.

1285
01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:22.199
<v Speaker 1>What's that sound like, the little thing? Yeah, exactly, known

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01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:26.880
<v Speaker 1>for helping or punishing people depending on their behavior. They

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01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:29.880
<v Speaker 1>live in remote areas like mountains or rock shelters and

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01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:33.079
<v Speaker 1>are like greatly respected like a god or they're they're

1289
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:36.760
<v Speaker 1>they're feared, you know, they're believed to be guardians of nature.

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01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:41.519
<v Speaker 1>They hold sacred knowledge. They're like the the the keepers

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01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:44.320
<v Speaker 1>of you know, the forests and the mountains and things

1292
01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:49.599
<v Speaker 1>like that. You have the medicine people and the sacred power.

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01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:54.159
<v Speaker 1>So they're like the mediums through which the Cherokee people

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01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:57.800
<v Speaker 1>would They're the intermediaries between the human and the spirit world, right,

1295
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:03.880
<v Speaker 1>herbal medicine, chanting, Hello, simanis people, they have healing dreams,

1296
01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:08.400
<v Speaker 1>they're in communication with the spiritual realm. They would be

1297
01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:13.639
<v Speaker 1>sought out to like remove curses, bring healing, uh, contact

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01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:17.359
<v Speaker 1>people's ancestors, interpret their dreams, stuff like that. You have

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01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:21.199
<v Speaker 1>the Ouktina, the horned serpent, a giant dragon like serpent

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01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:23.720
<v Speaker 1>with a crystal or a glowing gem in its forehead.

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01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:26.319
<v Speaker 1>What's up with all the dragons and all these myths?

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01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy. That's not the first time we talked

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01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:33.079
<v Speaker 2>about the real What episode number is it? Ryan, I

1304
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:33.439
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Drag and fifty nine?

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01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:37.479
<v Speaker 3>Fact check it fact checking?

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01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:41.000
<v Speaker 2>You go right along, sir.

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01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 1>They possess great immense spiritual power, the horn serpent people,

1309
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:51.119
<v Speaker 1>and killing one of them was thought to bring great

1310
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:57.880
<v Speaker 1>powerful abilities. What dang dang? I don't think that's close

1311
01:08:57.960 --> 01:08:58.319
<v Speaker 1>enough to do.

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01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:00.279
<v Speaker 3>This episode one dragon.

1313
01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Decide, do you have like a ten episode grace period

1314
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:03.960
<v Speaker 2>or something like?

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01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then that's well outside of that reach. What's what

1316
01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:10.039
<v Speaker 1>is one fifty nine? Though? You gotta find out animal

1317
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:13.000
<v Speaker 1>spirits and shape shifting. We talked about skinwalkers, windogo, stuff

1318
01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.399
<v Speaker 1>like that. They believe that people could shift into animals,

1319
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:17.560
<v Speaker 1>or that spirits could shift into the form of animals

1320
01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:20.359
<v Speaker 1>to interact with us. Obviously, the phenomenon does that I've

1321
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:25.479
<v Speaker 1>seen it, you guys have seen it. Let's see. There's

1322
01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:29.399
<v Speaker 1>obviously a specific symbolic meaning attached to each animal, like

1323
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:34.359
<v Speaker 1>bears are like strength, transformation and healing. Owls are like

1324
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:39.479
<v Speaker 1>a death or a warning and omen you know, if

1325
01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:42.319
<v Speaker 1>proper rituals aren't followed after death, they believe that like

1326
01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:46.039
<v Speaker 1>ghosts can linger after you. The night time was generally

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01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:49.760
<v Speaker 1>considered to be a lot more spiritually active. They wouldn't

1328
01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:53.039
<v Speaker 1>even perform certain rituals after dark to avoid attracting certain spirits,

1329
01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:55.439
<v Speaker 1>and you could have dreams of the dead, which in

1330
01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Cherokee belief is like a warning or a message from

1331
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:02.079
<v Speaker 1>the spirit world. Right the sake good fire, there is

1332
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:06.800
<v Speaker 1>a council house where there would be a fire lit.

1333
01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Believing to be a living connection to the spirit world

1334
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:13.119
<v Speaker 1>and the Creator. They would perform fire ceremonies to maintain

1335
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:16.439
<v Speaker 1>the balance of the world used in purification. They would

1336
01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:18.439
<v Speaker 1>all sit around a fire and they would tell sacred

1337
01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:20.800
<v Speaker 1>stories and things like that, talk about their ancestors.

1338
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:30.359
<v Speaker 2>What Maryland nice, very nice. Yeah, there's a lot of

1339
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Merlin coming up. Tonight.

1340
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Strange coincidence. They believed fire was a living.

1341
01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Being, she said, must be those English folk.

1342
01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:49.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, rights, and yeah, I don't have to go into

1343
01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:51.680
<v Speaker 1>all of these beings if you guys aren't vibing with it.

1344
01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:54.960
<v Speaker 1>But there's the thunder beings. They are the sky spirits

1345
01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:57.279
<v Speaker 1>who create the thunder and the lightning. They would enforce

1346
01:10:57.319 --> 01:10:59.520
<v Speaker 1>spiritual law. They're kind of like angels. I guess they're

1347
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:03.319
<v Speaker 1>seen as warriors or messengers of the great Spirit. It

1348
01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:06.359
<v Speaker 1>would be called upon for healing and protection. Associated with

1349
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:08.079
<v Speaker 1>birds of prey, like the eagler of the hawk, or

1350
01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:09.399
<v Speaker 1>like Zeus, or like raw and horse.

1351
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:09.640
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1352
01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:13.199
<v Speaker 1>The immortals, spirit beings who appear human. They live in

1353
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:16.199
<v Speaker 1>mountain cave villages and possess supernatural powers. I've actually read

1354
01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:19.439
<v Speaker 1>accounts because the Sky Jim he actually gave me a

1355
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:23.000
<v Speaker 1>massive book about Cherokee. I started thumbing through it. I

1356
01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:24.680
<v Speaker 1>got bored. I was like, I can't read all this shit.

1357
01:11:25.199 --> 01:11:27.720
<v Speaker 1>But I did read this part about the immortals, and

1358
01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:31.840
<v Speaker 1>there are actual ancient Cherokee accounts of people that claimed

1359
01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:34.760
<v Speaker 1>that they went into caves and talked to these spiritual

1360
01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:38.439
<v Speaker 1>beings that would like give them signs and wonders and

1361
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:40.520
<v Speaker 1>messages and things like that, and I thought that was

1362
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:41.279
<v Speaker 1>very interesting.

1363
01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Whoa like ancient spirits? Yeah, they're just they railing in caves, caves, mountains. Yep,

1364
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:48.920
<v Speaker 2>my gosh.

1365
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:52.000
<v Speaker 1>They look like humans, but they're like immortal godlike beings.

1366
01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:57.560
<v Speaker 1>There are ancient Cherokee stories about entire families just taken

1367
01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and like being missing during like the Trail of Tears

1368
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:03.319
<v Speaker 1>and other things like that. They're believed to not age

1369
01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:06.159
<v Speaker 1>or die. They live in a parallel spiritual realm, closely

1370
01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:08.800
<v Speaker 1>tied to the mountains, the caves, the rivers.

1371
01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:09.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1372
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:12.119
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say like a vortex or you know,

1373
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a fairy circle is you know the druids or people

1374
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:20.039
<v Speaker 1>in England might say. But very fascinating. You have obviously

1375
01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:22.279
<v Speaker 1>the creator. I don't think I talked about this one yet.

1376
01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:27.880
<v Speaker 1>The Supreme Being unet lnvy the name for the Great Mystery.

1377
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:33.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's non dual, meaning it's outside of duality.

1378
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:37.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just like this archetypal universal force. It's omni present.

1379
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:40.800
<v Speaker 1>It is the source of all life, spiritual law, It

1380
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:46.159
<v Speaker 1>orders the universe. It's not personified in stories, but it

1381
01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:49.319
<v Speaker 1>is present in all of the sacred things like firewater, mountains,

1382
01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:53.279
<v Speaker 1>the rivers, the wind sounds literally like the esoteric mystery traditions.

1383
01:12:53.720 --> 01:13:01.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, hello, handshakes, maybe that means something, yeah, the

1384
01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:05.000
<v Speaker 1>mystery the handshakes. Bro, can you paint with all the colors.

1385
01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:07.439
<v Speaker 2>Of the wind that was in my head? When like,

1386
01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:11.800
<v Speaker 2>when you're saying that, by the way, beautiful song, Okay,

1387
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:13.119
<v Speaker 2>obviously it is.

1388
01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:15.720
<v Speaker 1>They have, uh, and then this is the last one

1389
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:18.720
<v Speaker 1>they have like witches they have obviously dark you could say,

1390
01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:22.000
<v Speaker 1>like satanic or demonic spirits they are. They call it

1391
01:13:22.039 --> 01:13:25.319
<v Speaker 1>the raven Mocker. Oh that's so sick, the raven Mocker,

1392
01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:27.560
<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

1393
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's awesome album.

1394
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:32.199
<v Speaker 1>I love ravens. I love crows. I have a couple

1395
01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:35.039
<v Speaker 1>of I have. Okay, so I have this gang of

1396
01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:39.479
<v Speaker 1>four white cranes and two crows that nearly every day

1397
01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:41.399
<v Speaker 1>are just kind of hanging out in my yard. It's

1398
01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:42.800
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of times that I'm out there taking

1399
01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:44.960
<v Speaker 1>out the trash, moll in my grass whatever, I keep

1400
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:45.520
<v Speaker 1>finding that crow.

1401
01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seeing them, I'll be seeing them. When I pull up.

1402
01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:49.439
<v Speaker 1>I want to pick up a crow feather. But I'm

1403
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:51.880
<v Speaker 1>usually like I'm a lawn mower, and I'm like, I

1404
01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:53.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want to jump off, but I really want to

1405
01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:54.960
<v Speaker 1>keep one of the crow feathers, you know.

1406
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.079
<v Speaker 2>It'd be sick, right, and one of the crane ones.

1407
01:13:57.399 --> 01:13:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I haven't seen.

1408
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:00.479
<v Speaker 4>You.

1409
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Shut up, raven maker on your place, trash. Oh my god,

1410
01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm kidding. I'm being the raven maker.

1411
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:10.880
<v Speaker 2>But he's not the raven.

1412
01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:12.479
<v Speaker 1>I was being the raven maker.

1413
01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:13.520
<v Speaker 2>He's the raven.

1414
01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was destroying your spirit, damn. And that's an

1415
01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:20.760
<v Speaker 1>example of, you know, the kind of things that they

1416
01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:21.239
<v Speaker 1>would do.

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01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I don't think that was every

1418
01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:27.119
<v Speaker 2>more and nothing that you read would suggest that they're

1419
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:30.199
<v Speaker 2>bullying the other people like that.

1420
01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:35.079
<v Speaker 1>It says that they are very you okay, shut.

1421
01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Up, Oh my god, doubling down on him, dude, what

1422
01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:39.600
<v Speaker 2>the hell?

1423
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Geez?

1424
01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:44.840
<v Speaker 2>You know you're one of those demonic ancient spirits.

1425
01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:45.239
<v Speaker 1>The raven mockers.

1426
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1427
01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:49.159
<v Speaker 1>It says that their feared spiritual beings that feed on

1428
01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the lives of the sick and the dying.

1429
01:14:52.239 --> 01:14:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, you're a ravener.

1430
01:14:56.960 --> 01:15:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Here at night, only the medicine men can see them.

1431
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:04.079
<v Speaker 1>All of you can see me your shoot? Yeah, they're

1432
01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:06.479
<v Speaker 1>associated with evil magic and are said to mock the

1433
01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:08.399
<v Speaker 1>dying and take the remaining life for us. I'm just

1434
01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:08.960
<v Speaker 1>showing you.

1435
01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:11.119
<v Speaker 2>How they did it, Alex, are you dying?

1436
01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:15.760
<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know the medicine people would would banish

1437
01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:16.479
<v Speaker 1>them to ritual.

1438
01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:21.399
<v Speaker 4>Damn well, I mean I'm not getting closer to being born.

1439
01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:27.920
<v Speaker 2>That's fair, that's fair. Yeah, true. Anyway, That's about.

1440
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:29.520
<v Speaker 1>All I got, man, But I thought that we could

1441
01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:33.800
<v Speaker 1>have an out of the box conversation about when I

1442
01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:35.399
<v Speaker 1>went into this, I was like Native Americans, how are

1443
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:38.039
<v Speaker 1>we gonna talk about that? I wanted to a just

1444
01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:41.439
<v Speaker 1>posit the theory that maybe there was the connection to Atlantis,

1445
01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:43.319
<v Speaker 1>and then I wanted to go into the you know,

1446
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the phenomenon stuff and how it ties into a story.

1447
01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:49.399
<v Speaker 1>So that's I'm I'm all out of bones.

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01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, even though you were being mean to him, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to congratulate you and say good job and

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<v Speaker 2>good well done, thank you very good. And Alex, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sorry for him the way he's treating you, and you

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01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:04.439
<v Speaker 2>need to think about it and think about what you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing to him. Raven mocker Hey, I got one for you.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm concerned that you're not gonna be buff for

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<v Speaker 1>your skin to skin photo.

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<v Speaker 2>Dang, he's just the tripling down.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, what do you it's a Green Boys saying, Man,

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<v Speaker 4>that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you saying? We can't cross pollinate? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>It's the birds and the bees.

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<v Speaker 4>They're disappearing from the world, surprise everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm and I and I'm and and To be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to motivate.

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<v Speaker 2>You were anxious, We anxiously await that. Yeah, we all

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<v Speaker 2>do me, especially.

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<v Speaker 1>So since you mentioned Green Boys, I think it's important

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<v Speaker 1>that we keep with the spiritual transition and we say

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<v Speaker 1>the word of the day is bye guys, Bye guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Bye guys. Oh thanks Aaron here again? Uh that is

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<v Speaker 1>your name, right?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I don't think we really said his name

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<v Speaker 1>in the whole episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh bye guys. What ut bmies.

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<v Speaker 2>said so, same time next week