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Holdo Old knock Gud. 13 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.240 My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to tuned In. 14 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:50.439 Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Tuned In with 15 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:52.799 Jim Cummings. I'm producer Chris. We have a great guest 16 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.320 for you today. Before that, Jim, how are you doing today, sir? 17 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:01.880 Another day in paradise? Absolutely even better today that I 18 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:04.760 guess why. 19 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:07.359 Joins us today. Thank you so much for being here. 20 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:11.719 I literally just got off the plane. I like beautiful. 21 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:15.280 It is paradise. It is. Sorry I left rainy cold Toronto. Sorry, 22 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:15.760 not sorry. 23 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:18.480 I was just going to ask you did come from 24 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:20.719 Toro and did just. 25 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:24.439 For you guys right now though it is they're saying 26 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.640 it's the coldest mate in decades. Oh no, really, naturally 27 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:28.120 I'm here. 28 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:30.840 Oh well, that's the perfect time to believe. 29 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:32.799 Don't get to chose my arm. You want me there, 30 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:34.840 I'm there, yes, bye bye? 31 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:38.120 Yeah, well that's good. 32 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:42.719 Yeah, place for the place for the argoes my brother. Sorry, 33 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.000 I wasn't speaking of No. I was curious because my 34 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.159 brother lives in Toronto, so I was like, I don't 35 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:49.200 think you probably know him? 36 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:56.760 Yes, Oh yeah, that's a little suburb there, I mean 37 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.599 a little little burg. Oh man, Well are you a 38 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:05.920 football fan? Bandy chance? I just thought i'd ask, because 39 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:09.240 you know, I'm shocked, but okay, yeah you still. I'm 40 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:15.280 a boxing fan too, so I understand like you. So yeah, okay, 41 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:20.319 well thanks for being here. But so are you? Are 42 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:22.719 you keeping busy? Are you keeping happy? These days? 43 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:23.680 Very happy? 44 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:26.960 What's keeping you? What's keeping you? Enthused? And going? 45 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:30.639 And honestly, I've had an incredible year. I've kind of 46 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.680 traveled all over filmed all over the world. I just 47 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:36.439 filmed a movie in Cape Town that blew my mind. 48 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:40.000 But I'm taking a little bit of time off to 49 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:42.159 be home. I mean, obviously I'm here, but only like 50 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:44.520 a few days. But it's been nice to be home. 51 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:46.960 It's like the longest I've been it's like four weeks maybe. 52 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:51.560 But I traveled to London obviously because Star Wars got 53 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.000 nominated for the BAFTAs. That was really fun. 54 00:02:54.199 --> 00:03:00.639 Yeah, congratulations, It's it's such an honor and being I mean, 55 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:03.240 maybe I carry the sunshine everywhere, but every day I 56 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:07.080 was in London, it was sunny and beautiful, and everybody. 57 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:08.680 Was like, I swear, it's not like this all the time. 58 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:10.919 I'm like, I don't know, I could move here. They're like, 59 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:12.800 it's not, like, oh it's like. 60 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:16.800 This all the time. Oh, it looks like our screen 61 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:21.520 is giving us fish watch Netflix. Yeah apparently so, well, 62 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:23.680 you probably got something on there that we can. 63 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:27.520 I mean, listen my new trailer for The Waterfront's Menu 64 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:30.280 Netflix series. We filmed it in North Carolina last year, 65 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:35.120 Kevin Williamson. This trailer just dropped, so people are excited. 66 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:38.039 Fantastic. Yeah, oh my god. 67 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.159 Sneak into the madness. 68 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:47.039 Yeah, well this is well timed. Yeah, truly celebrating you. Yes, yes, 69 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:48.800 oh my goodness. 70 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:52.439 Yeah, that comes out next month right on Netflix. Yeah, 71 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:53.280 June nineteenth. 72 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:57.879 I've got that breaking down here, inspired by true events. 73 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:02.360 Deeply flawed, uly family? Are you? Are you deeply flawed 74 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:03.919 or just marginally. 75 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.159 Just a tiny bit? Think every character in the show 76 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:10.479 is just struggling quite a bit, and every episode just 77 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:12.159 against wars and wars, which is the fun. 78 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:14.080 Oh good, you know, well that's perfect. 79 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:14.960 Lots of drama. 80 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:19.680 Okay, good, Well, I'll be tuning in, amazing tuning in. 81 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:22.600 What's that like psychologically when you have to get yourself 82 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:23.360 in a role like that? 83 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:27.759 You know what? I love drama, not like in my life, 84 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:33.439 I guess right right, Yeah, it's really fun to you know, 85 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.680 you don't often get to dig deep into those emotions 86 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:40.399 as a human, to put myself in another character shoes 87 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:43.720 and be able to explore with so much like Gusto 88 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:46.079 and Vigor and be like, what are they going through today? 89 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:47.879 I could be having the best day ever and then 90 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:50.399 suddenly they yell action and I'm like in tears and 91 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:53.399 angry and mad and going through it. But it can 92 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.040 be very cathartic, honestly, and we have such a great team. 93 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:58.600 There's a lot of support, so it doesn't feel exhausting 94 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:02.079 to me. It's just really yea, here's my humanness. 95 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:04.000 I was gonna ask you if that takes a toll 96 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:07.199 at all, because I had a weird experience. I'm gonna 97 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:09.279 tell a quick little story. I was on this show 98 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:12.360 called The one hundred on the CW years ago, and 99 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:15.120 I had my makeup all done because my character got 100 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:19.319 burns alive, right, so like all you know, big burn victim, 101 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:22.120 my hands, my whole face, like three hours of makeup, 102 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:24.480 and you know, it's all fun, fun and dandy, you know, 103 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:27.079 sitting in those trailers and you know, and everybody's pampering 104 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.120 you and all that. But I remember going back in 105 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:33.199 my trailer and like looking in the mirror and like physically, 106 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.319 like my body started having like a reaction like I 107 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:37.560 was injured, and like I know this is fake, but 108 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:39.920 like seeing my reflection and it was so real. It 109 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:42.399 was like it wasn't like I was panickering or anything. 110 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.120 I could just feel like a change inside of me 111 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.560 where my body was like reacting like oh, should we 112 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:50.519 be like in shock? Or something. And so the reason 113 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:52.720 I bring that story up is like, you know, like 114 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:54.920 you're saying, when you're playing like a role where you 115 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:57.279 have to be really mad or cry or something, you 116 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.319 really have to do those things, you know. And so 117 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:02.959 like I'm wondering if that takes like a toll, you know, 118 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.199 over time, Like Okay, you know you hear those old 119 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:08.360 stories of like Alfred Hitchcock, you know, forcing an actress 120 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.120 to do you know, like over and over until she's 121 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:14.480 physically exhausted so that it looks like that on screen. 122 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:14.839 You know. 123 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:17.519 Yeah, it's a fine line between like doing the job 124 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:21.120 and it being like torturous. I think every actor has 125 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:23.759 their own methods of doing that. For me, I've learned 126 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:26.639 to really take care of myself. The movie I just 127 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:29.439 finished filming was like I was there every single day 128 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:32.680 because I was the lead, and it was definitely like 129 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:39.000 dark material, a lot of like emotional turmoil. I'm like, dirty, bloody, do. 130 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:42.000 That every day every day, beat yourself up space. 131 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.759 So I definitely, you know, it does take a toll, 132 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:48.759 like it costs something. It's exciting to tell that story 133 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:51.240 and to really dig into that, but I need to 134 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:53.639 know what I need to take care of myself. No 135 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:55.120 one else is going to do that for me. So 136 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.199 making sure that even in between takes, when I had 137 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.759 a moment, it worse for me to separate and then 138 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:02.560 come back to it, because you're right, your brain and 139 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:05.839 your body doesn't know the difference. Sometimes you're asking it 140 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:08.839 to think dark thoughts or to go somewhere that can 141 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.279 be triggering. You have to know that you can come 142 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:11.800 back from it. 143 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:17.399 Absolutely. Is there any place that you wouldn't go? And 144 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:19.480 my dad's an actor as well, and he talks about 145 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:23.120 He talks about when he when he you know, is 146 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:26.160 getting cast for a role or something and they're asking 147 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:28.680 something of him, there's a certain point he'll go to 148 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:31.279 for on camera and then the rest he'll be like, 149 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:33.959 you didn't pay me enough, Like I'm not willing to 150 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:37.720 go through that for your entertainment, Like that's physically too 151 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:39.519 much for me. Do you have like a line where 152 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:41.040 you would go, I recently don't. 153 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:45.879 I haven't encountered that yet. I mean, I haven't found 154 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:49.680 something to be so shocking or you know, triggering to 155 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:52.560 me that I go, I can't do that, but maybe 156 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:55.160 it'll come. I mean, you never know what the material 157 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:58.160 or what the job is. And sometimes you don't even 158 00:07:58.279 --> 00:07:59.879 know that it's going to affect you that way until 159 00:07:59.920 --> 00:08:00.680 you're living it. 160 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.160 And then the third part about it is too, like 161 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:06.199 the backlash, Like you just see what's the actress who 162 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.800 just played she just won the oscar Mikey Madson, Yeah 163 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:12.839 before And I see a lot online she's getting a 164 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:16.839 lot of backlash for like not requesting an intimacy Cortis coordinator, right, 165 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.480 you know when she's filming all yeah, that's her creative 166 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.079 process and it's not like you can't let somebody dictate that. 167 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:27.600 No, And I mean we're so grateful for intimacy coordinators. 168 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:32.159 I think adding that really does keep actors safe and 169 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:35.080 the team kind of it's it's more cohesive, there's more communication. 170 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:38.039 But if someone ultimately feels like it's a hindrance to 171 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:42.080 their work, I mean, we spent more time without them 172 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:45.399 than not, so who knows, Like I don't. I don't 173 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:47.360 know if that has affected her in the long run 174 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:49.759 or not. But she got an oscar something like. 175 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:51.639 I know, I think she's doing all right. 176 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:52.759 I think she's doing. 177 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:54.919 Yeah. 178 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:58.000 Oh my god. There's a famous story about Bert Lancaster. 179 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.360 He was I don't remember the name of the movie, 180 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.279 but he had a scene and he was very young, 181 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:07.679 a young young actor at the time, you know, the 182 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.919 great Burt Lancaster, and I think it was with Ava Gardner, 183 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:17.360 very very beautiful actress in the forties maybe fifties. But 184 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:21.399 he had this intimate scene and he said he got 185 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:25.679 into it a little too much and his body underwent 186 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:33.799 a transformation and something responded. Some little bird was down there, 187 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:36.759 and he goes, what the hell is going What am 188 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:40.279 I doing? You know? Oh my, you should try acting. 189 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:44.519 And so so he just went well, you know, and 190 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:47.960 he was gratis helmet and sat it on his lap 191 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:50.320 and he got through this, got through the scene. 192 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:51.919 The boy doesn't know the difference. 193 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:53.759 I mean, what are you gonna do? 194 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:57.039 That's the cost of it. You know. It's like it's 195 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:00.600 the next moment in your life. And maybe you happen 196 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.639 to know what happens mentally, but your body is going 197 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:06.320 through it for the first time, and it's impossible to recreate. 198 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:09.879 Every moment is different, it's new, you reset. But it's 199 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:12.600 fascinating to me. I mean, I love doing it. I 200 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:14.519 someone asked me, they were like, why do you love acting? 201 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:17.639 I'm like, I just love feeling. I want I want 202 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:20.120 to feel everything that I can, Like if this is 203 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.919 my instrument and this is all we get. Everybody has 204 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.440 their own unique footprint on what that work and artistry 205 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:29.360 is to be able to explore that, and you know, 206 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:30.679 a lot of the time it is a mirror to 207 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:34.519 my life. I find out a lot about myself through 208 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:37.240 the work that maybe sometimes I wouldn't otherwise. 209 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:41.080 So well, that's pretty darn not very bad. That's pretty beautiful. 210 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:45.519 That's a that's a great observation. It helps in the journey, 211 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:50.039 you know, it's it's all part of the game. That's beautiful. 212 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:53.320 When did you first start acting? Were you're acting as 213 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:53.720 a child? 214 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:57.720 No, I mean, I don't know. Ask my parents. They 215 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:00.480 will tell you. That means my parents thing that I 216 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:02.960 was meant for this since I was born. They were like, 217 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.120 since you were like two three years old, I was 218 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:09.639 always dancing around, making music, making stories, just like Oh. 219 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:13.039 I was always very active in that and not a 220 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:17.000 super shy kid. I used to like kind of intervene 221 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.440 in the parents' parties and be like, Okay, it's it's 222 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:24.519 your time to listen to me. I've prepared. And my 223 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:26.960 brother is gonna harmonize and we're gonna dance for you guys. 224 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:33.000 Like it was just very but I think, you know, 225 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:34.600 it was always part of my soul. I grew up 226 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:37.399 in Venezuela, and you know, Latin America in general just 227 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:41.720 has such a it's like charismatic and there's a lot 228 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.879 of life and sound and music and dance, and it's 229 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.399 just part of me. I mean, I grew up dancing 230 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:51.360 and singing, and it seems like everybody there does that. 231 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:54.600 My entire family is super gifted, really, they just love it. 232 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:56.759 Like my dad was in a band, my mom sings. 233 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:58.759 A lot of cousins and aunts and uncles and they 234 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:04.519 all kind of do it. And instruments, yeah, well, I 235 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.679 taught myself the guitar and now I have two guitars 236 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:09.679 and I really love it and both of them, and 237 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:11.879 I taught myself both of them. But I do want 238 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:14.279 I want to take more lessons, Like I think there's 239 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:16.240 so much out there on the internet. I think you 240 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:19.279 can absolutely teach yourself anything, but there's something about like 241 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:21.960 a human teaching me that I think I would. 242 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:24.600 I would probably sure, Yeah, yeah, no, why you get 243 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.600 that ping pong? You can get the the human interaction. 244 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:32.159 Replace it with AI or robots. I'm sorry, I want 245 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:33.600 a human Yeah. 246 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:36.840 Well, no, that's true. And and I think that too 247 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:40.120 about AI is because you know, if you stop and 248 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:43.440 think about it, or even if you don't, acting is 249 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:47.399 I don't know, half reacting at least. Yeah, I mean, 250 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:51.960 because you're not in a vacuum. No, you know, especially 251 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:55.840 on camera now off when you're doing a voice recording, 252 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:58.639 you kind of can be in a vacuum, you know, 253 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:01.399 to an extent, and sometimes somebody will read with you, 254 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.360 but but not on camera, I know. I mean that's 255 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:05.919 you've got to let. 256 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:07.639 It affect you, right, And I think the best of 257 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:10.600 artists are the ones that are so open to someone else. 258 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.720 M Yeah. I saw an interesting thing A thought about 259 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:19.080 AI and acting, you know, like I'm not gonna lie, 260 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:20.919 Like even last year, I didn't think it was like 261 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:22.960 this is never going to replace. I saw a video 262 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:26.240 literally yesterday, oh no, and they're moving and talking and 263 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:29.279 I'm like, oh, it's too real, and like the top 264 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:31.120 comment this is on Reddit and it was like, I 265 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:34.039 feel like Live theater is about to have a major comeback. 266 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:35.840 And I was like, that's actually really interesting. 267 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:40.200 Yeah, Okay, Ai, you really can't. And there's something so 268 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:44.159 amazing that instant, you know, graphfication of like the audience 269 00:13:44.200 --> 00:13:47.159 and the energy that's being you know. So I actually 270 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:49.679 just saw a theater show last night, two of them. 271 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:51.399 And I I love it. 272 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:55.080 It's part of a queer theater company called Buddies in 273 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:57.240 Bad Time in Toronto. They've been around for like forty 274 00:13:57.279 --> 00:14:00.879 something years. But they were both one man show, yea 275 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:04.279 like one person and it was incredible. And one of 276 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:09.360 them being a Guslovita who is also from my same hometown, Venezuela, 277 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:12.240 and he was also in Star Trek, which is wild. 278 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:15.679 But we grew up in the same town, moved to Canada, 279 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.360 to the same province, and then ended up being actors 280 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:21.360 in Toronto. I don't know, you can't make this up, 281 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:24.639 but it's incredible, and I you know, he's always representing 282 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.000 Venezuela and our unique story, so it's kind of come 283 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:29.240 to have like this parallel career. 284 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:32.720 Pretty cool. Yeah, man, oh man, what are the odds? 285 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:35.720 They're very low. Yeah, no one makes it out of 286 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:38.600 Venezuela to do this, Like it's so rare to meet 287 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:44.879 other fellow Venezuelans in Hollywood. Venezuela have Likemirez who and 288 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:49.519 then Who's in Dynasty. But you know, even then, I'm like, 289 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:52.279 there's there's not that many. There's not that many of us. 290 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.639 Manz will be like a known name starting. 291 00:14:59.399 --> 00:14:59.679 Your way. 292 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:03.919 Yeah, yeah, things are looking good. Yeah, this is just. 293 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:07.519 A wind. 294 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:11.879 We're in a wind twel here, folks, Uh excuse me? 295 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:15.159 Would you have me that blanket over there? Kind of 296 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:19.600 cold here? Oh my gosh. But yeah, well we'll take 297 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:22.679 care of that in case it's we're trudging across the 298 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:26.960 tune happening time here, speaking of Canada and Toronto. We're 299 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:30.480 on the tundra as we speak here. But boy, oh boy, 300 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.600 well you've been you've been very blessed. You're keeping busy 301 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.200 and keeping keeping those cards and letters coming in and 302 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:39.440 look at it, Look at all the things that are 303 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.879 coming up here. I mean that's saying. 304 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:45.879 I mean, it's been ten years. It'll be ten years 305 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:49.360 this summer actually since I started my professional career, like 306 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:52.080 since I got my first agent after theater school, and 307 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:53.679 oh my god, I mean, if I if I go 308 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:56.080 back in time and look at what I've done now 309 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.879 and you know, the resume of the people, the connections 310 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:01.240 the places, have seen, the sets I've been on, the 311 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:05.639 actors I've been able to act opposite, I would be 312 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:09.480 so impressed, and it would just be I mean, I 313 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:11.480 didn't even think I was going to go into film 314 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:12.759 and TV. I thought I was going to be a 315 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:16.679 theater actor because I was, you know, I trained in theater. 316 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:21.440 It was conservatory. But it's my first love. I love 317 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:23.720 live theater. I love performance, and I'm sure I'll go 318 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:26.639 back to it one day. It's where the heart is 319 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.720 for me. Right, It's interacting in real time. There's a different, 320 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:35.159 different stakes. Honestly, I fell in love with film and 321 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:38.840 TV as well. It's a different machine for sure. Honestly, 322 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:40.559 the reason I fell in love with it was because 323 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:45.559 of continuity. I couldn't believe the multitasking that actors had 324 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:48.080 to do. I didn't I didn't get it. And it 325 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:50.200 was like when you put a cup down, because then 326 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:52.440 you know voice is listening, and then you have to 327 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:53.960 make sure that you put your purse here and that 328 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:56.519 your hair is back. And I was like, this is 329 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:58.600 a cool game. I'm going to master it. 330 00:16:59.240 --> 00:16:59.840 That's great. 331 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:04.160 I just saw it as a very technically like challenging thing, 332 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:07.119 and I mean it turns out once you can be 333 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.200 free within the blueprints of the game, it's very exciting. 334 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.920 Yeah, yeah, and you know, and it really jumps out 335 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:18.200 to me anyway during continuity, speaking of you know, you're 336 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:21.039 sitting around a card table having a conversation with this 337 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:23.359 person or that person, and the one person was sitting 338 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:25.559 there like this. Then they do a backshot of them 339 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:27.559 and they're sitting there like that, and you go, hey, 340 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:28.359 wait a minute. Wait. 341 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:31.359 It takes you out because you're like, wait, that's not connected. 342 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.160 That's right, So that counts. 343 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:37.720 Continuity, Like continuity has an amazing job. And yes, I 344 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.240 pride myself and always keeping track of all of that. 345 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.559 It's fun for me because I love to know. I'm like, okay, 346 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:45.119 well if I did it in the master, now we're 347 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:47.880 going in for close ups. I gotta remember and kind 348 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:50.920 of imprint what I have done and why. But to me, 349 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:54.519 because everything is intentional, this is when mocap comes in. 350 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:58.039 It is marrying like theater and film at the same time, 351 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:02.359 which is why it's my favorite medium. Because everything is intentional, 352 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:05.720 nothing is out of sorts. You are being recorded from 353 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:08.599 head to toe, so everything means something. 354 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.279 And what's wild to me. I love mocapy and I 355 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:13.480 got the pleasure to be around a lot of MOCAP studios. 356 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:15.759 My dad did Cradles. I'm God of War and so 357 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.240 like seeing all that stuff in the volume is just 358 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:20.200 so fascinating. It's like you get to be like a 359 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:23.200 child in like yes, yeah, like a sandbox. But what 360 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.960 really blew me away is there's no cameras. There's no cameras, 361 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:29.079 but they can film everything. 362 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:30.839 But there's no care I'm wearing a camera. It's like 363 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:35.319 there's ghost cameras, so they're around, right, But so everybody 364 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.480 who's wearing the mocap suit, that's the only things that 365 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:39.920 are being recorded. Everybody else is a ghost and we 366 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:42.440 call them ghosts. So they can be holding a camera, 367 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.039 but like there's no axis, they can go all around you, 368 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:47.799 they can move around, your props kind of disappear into 369 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:51.000 fake pockets. And then you're surrounded by infrared cameras. There's 370 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:55.039 like hundreds of them that capture your skeleton. So you 371 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:59.079 really are just like this little thing around the volume. 372 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:01.839 And that's I think somehow it turns into a game. 373 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:05.680 I think I had some of that with Hondo. Yeah, yeah, 374 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:08.480 that was I guess that was was that mo Cat? 375 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:12.119 We were watching you? Yeah, I was in the studio 376 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:14.279 with Jim when they were doing the they were doing 377 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:19.000 the the DLC for Outlaws. Yeah, and they were voice matching, 378 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:21.480 you know, Jim was voice matching to I don't know, 379 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:25.039 some some actor they hired to do their physicality and 380 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:27.200 you were there doing your doing. 381 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:29.640 Your thing right, and it's like what you're seeing that 382 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:32.480 would be one of the ghost cameras recording it, and 383 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:35.200 they kind of they move around like they would on set, 384 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:36.640 but they're not being recorded. 385 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:36.880 So they can know. 386 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.279 We were watching you guys in the suits. 387 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:42.599 In the suits yeah, oh yeah, cool. Right, they're tight 388 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:45.200 and itchy, but you get used to it. You're lucky 389 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:46.000 you don't have to wear it. 390 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:52.200 Actually, yeah, I'll be right back. I'll go change, just 391 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:53.759 get rid of get rid of this. 392 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:56.160 And your your career is really on fire. I mean 393 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:59.000 you're not only getting work, but you're breaking down barriers 394 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:01.680 like you were. I read that you were in the 395 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:06.680 first lesbian Hallmark. Yeah, first lesbian couple Christmas movie. 396 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:12.319 And it and it wasn't like that back then, I 397 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:14.559 know today, So I think we're making progress. 398 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:18.359 Like I remember when I started acting and I would 399 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:21.039 audition for Hallmark, but like, I never even got a callback. 400 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.440 No one ever loved at me. I was like, yeah, 401 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:26.440