WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:05.960 It's nice eyes with Dan Ray undoing Boston's news Radio. 2 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:11.080 All Right, I'll remember four coming up here. Okay, I 3 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:15.400 got a couple of options, and again, this is one 4 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:18.160 that I'm interested in. You know, I hope you're interested 5 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:21.719 in the same issues. If you're not, no problem. But 6 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:26.519 I try to challenge my audience and meaning I want 7 00:00:26.559 --> 00:00:30.679 you to think about these issues. Sometimes it's a challenge, 8 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.119 which we talked about last hour about a political race. 9 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:37.200 There's a big case going on and probably many of 10 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:40.200 you haven't heard about it, and for that I am sorry. 11 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:43.880 But let me try to explain it to you and 12 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:46.520 maybe you'd like to offer a thought on the case. 13 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:51.960 It is a case that is really in its embryonic form. 14 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:57.280 So we have a legal resident in the United States. 15 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:03.200 His name is Mahmoud Khalil. I do not know from 16 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:07.680 which country he comes from, but he has been a 17 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:13.560 spokesperson at the Columbia University campus for the groups that 18 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:21.120 have disrupted the academics of that campus not only last spring, 19 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.760 but a little bit in the fall, and now they 20 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:28.760 seem to be ramping up for more activity this spring. 21 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:35.560 The Trump administration has held with held about four hundred 22 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:39.359 million dollars from Columbia. They feel that the administration has 23 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:47.239 been lax in protecting other students, particularly Jewish students, So 24 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:54.239 the US has essentially arrested Mahmoud Khalil, permanent legal resident 25 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:58.560 of the US, recent graduate of Columbia and has helped 26 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:02.640 lead high profile campus protest against Israel's war in Gaza. 27 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:06.000 This is out of the New York Times from today. 28 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:09.680 Speaking in Ireland today earlier today, on Wednesday, Secretary State 29 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:13.560 mic Or Rubio accused mister Khalil a participating in protest 30 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.080 that he described as anti Semitic and supportive of the 31 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.960 terrorist group Hamas. Foreigners who comes to the United States 32 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:22.159 and do such things, he said, will have their visas 33 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:25.120 or green cards provoked and be kicked out. This is 34 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:27.919 not about free speech, mister Rubio said. This is about 35 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:29.479 people that don't have a right to be in the 36 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:31.960 United States. To begin with, No one has a right 37 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:33.800 to a student visa, No one has a right to 38 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:36.479 a green card. By the way, at the same time, 39 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:41.439 they should you should realize that people who are here 40 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:47.439 as permanent residents are protected. Lawful permanent residents are protected. 41 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:50.159 They're not citizens, but they are protected by the Constitution, 42 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.360 including First Amendment free speech rights and Fifth Amendment to 43 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:56.159 process rights. Now the question is how are you going 44 00:02:56.199 --> 00:02:59.960 to interpret those rights. This guy's been arrested, he's been 45 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.719 moved to Louisiana in federal custody. There was a hearing 46 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:05.639 today in New York where his lawyers said would like 47 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:09.400 him back in New York. I bet they would, And 48 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:13.479 the government wants him his immigration hearing to be held 49 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:20.400 in a federal court in Louisiana. A group at Harvard, 50 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:26.879 which reportedly faculty in students that Harvard Faculty and Staff 51 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:30.240 for Justice in Palestine is a diverse and inclusive organization 52 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:33.599 of over three hundred Harvard faculty and staff committed to 53 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:39.159 Palestine Palestinian liberation. What that means essentially is a total 54 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:45.319 disruption of Israel because Palestinian liberation is not going to 55 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:47.400 occur on the West Bank, is not going to occur 56 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:51.400 in Gaza. Tried that, been there, done that didn't quite 57 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:55.599 work out. Witness October seventh. This is the local chapter 58 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:58.759 for the National Faculty and Staff for Justice in Palestine. 59 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:03.319 So they're all upset that mahmou Khalil has been arrested 60 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:08.199 for their words. His peaceful advocacy against genocide. They always 61 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:11.800 they say, whoever frames the argument wins the issue. And 62 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:15.319 the cancelation of federal research, they link this to cancelation 63 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:18.720 of federal research funding at Columbia and other universities across 64 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:22.560 the country constitute significant blows to academic freedom and American 65 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:26.000 civil liberties. So this guy basically was one of the 66 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:30.279 leaders of the protests at Columbia a year ago that 67 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.279 really did get out of hand. I don't know how 68 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:37.399 much videotape the government has here, and I don't know 69 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:41.639 how you balance his rights for free speech. It's one 70 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:45.160 thing to write a column or a period a demonstration. 71 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:48.319 It's another thing to block students who happen to be 72 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:52.360 Jewish from getting onto campus, as was done at Columbia. 73 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:58.839 It's another thing to take over university classrooms and buildings 74 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:05.279 and dist up the conduct of the university, which was 75 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:08.839 done at Columbia last year. This will be There's not 76 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.759 much in terms of past cases that you can rely 77 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:17.160 upon for precedent. This will be a case that will eventually, 78 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.519 I suspect go to the Supreme Court. But I just 79 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:23.399 want to set out my position and I'd love to 80 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:28.759 hear your position on this, if you're so interested. I'm 81 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:30.600 not bothered by the fact that this guy is going 82 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.959 to be deported. I'm really not okay. You come to 83 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:38.800 the United States and you want to disrupt classes at Columbia. 84 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:44.120 You want to prevent Jewish students from fulfilling their academic 85 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:48.480 obligations at Columbia. You want to take over university buildings, 86 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:52.639 you want to hold captive. And there were people janitors 87 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:55.240 who were in those buildings. When they got there, the 88 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:58.040 students wouldn't let them out. They wouldn't let them out 89 00:05:58.040 --> 00:05:59.800 because they didn't want to open a door which could 90 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.879 have allowed the police to come in. But they still 91 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:10.240 kept employees of Columbia University inside, in effect kidnapped against 92 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:14.839 their will. As far as I'm concerned, this guy is 93 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.560 adding nothing to the debate. We can have the debate 94 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:26.040 on campus, but I do not need Mood Khalil just 95 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:32.519 basically disrupting one of the most prestigious universities in this country, 96 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:38.560 Columbia University. He has come here as an advocate of 97 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:44.040 Hamas and an advocate for an organization that killed more 98 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:51.240 people of Jewish ancestry in one day. October seventh, twenty 99 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:54.120 twenty three than had been killed on any other day 100 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:58.319 since the Holocaust of the nineteen thirties and the nineteen forties. 101 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:01.360 So that's my take on it. I'd love to know 102 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:03.079 what your take on it is. I mean, if you're 103 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.759 some free speech person, and I like to consider myself 104 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:10.920 as an absolutist on the First Amendment speech, But when 105 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:15.319 speech gets to action, it's no longer speech. And when 106 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.879 speech starts to block access for other people to what 107 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:23.680 they want, whether it's blocking cars on the highway because 108 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:27.160 you're upset about something, or whether it's preventing students from 109 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:34.279 going into classrooms, that is for me problematic, very problematic, 110 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:38.399 And that is for me what changes the dynamic of 111 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:41.560 the conversation. So I don't know how many of you 112 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:46.319 are familiar with the case, but I feel that in 113 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:50.560 this case, this guy came to the country, he got 114 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:55.199 his I guess he got a master's degree in international 115 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:59.360 public affairs last December from Columbia. Good for you. Take 116 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:02.800 your degree with you, uh, and don't darken our shores again. 117 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:06.480 Go back and do whatever you got to do, but 118 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:08.720 you're not going to do it here in America. That's 119 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.800 my position. Uh. I know that many of my friends 120 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.399 on the bar are going to disagree with that. Uh. 121 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:16.279 And if you want to disagree with it, bring it on. 122 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:19.160 All points of view are welcome. I'm not even interested 123 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:21.519 in arguing with you. I'd love to know if there 124 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:24.279 is support for this. I've had it up to here 125 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:28.199 with the campus protests. Okay, Uh. I saw what happened 126 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:32.399 to Israel. I saw how they responded. I saw that 127 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:37.399 the Palestinian people elected Hamas to lead, to lead Gaza 128 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.399 to their detriment, to their detriment. I wish it had 129 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:46.960 never happened. Uh. And they're uh. And there are still 130 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:50.240 people in captivity and Americans in captivity six one seven, 131 00:08:51.960 --> 00:08:55.960 six one seven nine, three thirty. This is a red 132 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:58.039 meat topic. You want red meat, Let's have ad it. 133 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:02.360 Joined the conversation, coming right back on now, back to 134 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.759 Dan Ray live from the Window World night Side Studios 135 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:11.120 on WBZ News Radio. Back to the phones we go. 136 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.399 Let's start it off with John in Boxbro, John, your thoughts. 137 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:18.120 I'd really like to get at the temperature of my 138 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:21.600 audience on this issue tonight. Go right ahead, John, And 139 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:22.360 can you hear me? 140 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:24.559 Okay, yeah, kid, go right ahead. 141 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:25.840 Yeah. 142 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:31.519 Well, my views line up with yours as far as 143 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:35.600 green cards go. And I'm not that familiar, but I 144 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:38.320 would imagine you'd have to fill out an application one 145 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:42.000 year what you're coming to the United States for, and 146 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:45.200 you know what you're going to do. And I would 147 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:46.720 imagine if he filled out. 148 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:49.240 That, you know, he was going to attack to your students. 149 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:54.399 On campus and disseminate, you know, anti Semitic literature and 150 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:57.759 so on and so forth, you'd probably get denied that 151 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:06.639 green card application, I would imagine. And to your point, actually, 152 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:10.039 he's not even a student. He's a graduate student, is 153 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:11.879 they He's. 154 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:15.320 A graduate, so he's no longer a student here. I 155 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.480 have no idea what I agree with you. I thought 156 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:20.320 that's a very clever way to put it. And I 157 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.679 agree with you that that he would not have said 158 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.799 that his purpose was to come here to block students, 159 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:32.759 threaten students, take over buildings at the university, lead violent demonstrations. 160 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:36.720 I mean this this guy. I'm hoping that they can 161 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:39.120 show he was in the midst of it. I don't 162 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:41.919 need the guy here, I really don't. I really don't. 163 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:45.440 Jewish students should be allowed to go to whatever college 164 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:48.320 and university they want, and they should not be in 165 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:53.519 any way, shape or form, prevented, discriminated against, intimidated, spat 166 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:57.679 upon everything that they have been undergoing at college campuses 167 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:01.080 across the country. It's time for the country to wake up. 168 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:03.720 Absolutely yeah. 169 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.159 And you know what in the disgrace of. 170 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:09.879 What happened, I mean, you had four young you know, 171 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:15.399 people enjoying the concert getting murdered, you know, babies getting murdered, 172 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.519 and people being attacked, and then all of a sudden 173 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:22.879 it's flipped upside down on its head and everyone's against the. 174 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:27.200 Jewish students, you know, uh, you. 175 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:32.360 Know, well, I mean it's it's mind blowing to me. Dan, Well, 176 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:33.399 it has to me as well. 177 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.840 Does virilad anti Semitism abroad in the land? Okay? And 178 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:41.559 what is Israel supposed to do like roll over and 179 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.840 and go away and leave the country that they have 180 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:48.120 built for the last seventy five flexibly seventy five years? 181 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:49.200 Absolutely not. 182 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:50.440 No. 183 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:52.600 I had the same how arguing with my cousin. 184 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:54.159 He's early far left. 185 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.360 I'm in the center. But I said it would be 186 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:59.200 the same thing after nine to eleven if other country 187 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:01.600 said to the United States, we'll sit any hands now. 188 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:03.919 And you know, you got to do, you. 189 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.159 Know, be calm about it, and you know it's not 190 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.600 what any civil. 191 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:11.279 Society would do if they were attacked. 192 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:14.759 And it's just a disgrace now in this country that 193 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.399 you have all these students with privilege if you want 194 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.279 to go and protest, you know, same with this guy here. 195 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.080 The ide F is over the Middle East, Go fight 196 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:26.759 them over there. 197 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:30.519 Okay, yeah, got good luck with Good luck with that, kiddies, 198 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:32.519 good luck with that. Well. The other thing too, is 199 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:35.159 that they want to have a protest. That's fine, There's 200 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.679 plenty of ways to have a protest. But what has 201 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.960 happened is our definition of a protest has morphed. Has 202 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:45.600 morphed to, Oh, you want to block traffic on the 203 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.840 mass Turnedpike or en route ninety three or ninety five, 204 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:52.360 no one eight, No problem. You know you want to 205 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:55.559 do it outside of Lax Airport, no problem. It's going 206 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:58.080 to inconvenience a lot of people. But you have a 207 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.559 right to have your point of view heard. Well that's 208 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:05.039 that's that's bs as far as I'm concerned. Once you start, 209 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.480 you know your ability to and I'm and I use 210 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:10.519 this metaphor. You've heard it before, so it's nothing new. 211 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:14.240 Your ability to extend your right hand fist stops where 212 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:18.159 my nose begins. It's as simple as that. And you 213 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:21.120 have no right to prevent students from getting to their class. 214 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:24.840 This is what it was. Intimidation and violence. And and 215 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:29.000 this guy apparently was one of the league organizer's agitators. 216 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.440 And he's not an American citizen. We can't maybe deport 217 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:35.279 an American citizen for that, but he's in a different category. 218 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:37.720 Get him out of here, simple as that. It's like 219 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:40.279 if fans at Yankee Stadium, did you see the play 220 00:13:40.360 --> 00:13:44.879 last fall where some knucklehead fans were reaching over and 221 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:47.759 wrestling rookie Bets Bets that come over to try to 222 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:51.679 catch a foul ball near the stand, and they grabbed 223 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:54.000 his hand and his wrist and his glove and they 224 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:58.679 were trying to basically steal his glove from it. Yeah, 225 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:00.639 and you know if they happened to break his wrist 226 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:03.279 and end his career, well, you know, what's the big deal? 227 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:03.960 Uh? 228 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:06.559 And there were people who saying the Yankees have said 229 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:09.360 they can't go to Yankee games anymore. Good for the Yankees. 230 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:12.480 They were two knucklehead Yankee fans who thought that they 231 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:14.960 were they were more important than the players in the field. 232 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:18.639 So absolutely. I don't know if you saw this. It 233 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:22.080 was I think it was in New York when they 234 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:25.799 were blocking out the traffic and one guy pulled up 235 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.679 and he got out and he said, you better move. 236 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:30.320 He was going to pick up his son. 237 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:32.320 He had a visitation. 238 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:33.919 He wasn't going to miss a visitation. 239 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:35.840 He got up and he dragged the people out of 240 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:38.960 the way. They're going, Tommy, and you know, and I'm 241 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:40.559 going to pack you back or I'm going to run 242 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:43.159 you over. And I said that, you know, that's great. 243 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:44.759 Because no one else is doing anything. 244 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:48.440 Like like you said, there's one thing that peacefully protests, 245 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:51.799 but when you disturb it in ambulances, what if you 246 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:54.759 got some guy going to the contiac arrest that has 247 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.440 to get the hospital they have they go look. 248 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:00.720 Yeah, and some of this would Some of this stuff 249 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:05.320 happened with the Wall Street Occupy Wall Street. I had 250 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:08.080 a woman who called me. She was a ninety three 251 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:11.919 fourth taking her kids, both of them two kids, young 252 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:13.840 kids like three and four or five years old in 253 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.720 the backseat with double ir infections. If you've ever had 254 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:19.240 a parent with double ears with a jaw with double 255 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:23.120 ear infections. The child is screaming in agony. It's not something, 256 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:26.679 it's painful, and she had to sit there. And then 257 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:29.120 there was another couple who had been called that morning 258 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:31.519 that the wife's eighty nine year old mother was going 259 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.120 into surgery and it was touch and go and they 260 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:38.360 had to abandon their car, uh and then walk to 261 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:41.440 an exit and basically tried a hitchhike to get to 262 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:45.360 see the mother before she went into surgery. Anyway, Yeah, 263 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:46.080 I know how. 264 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:50.120 Yeah, yeah. And he not to interrupt you, but in 265 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:54.320 the majority of people, they find out it's frost fund babies. Okay, there, 266 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:58.240 they're not even students that one of these universities that 267 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:01.440 get billions of dollars in the elements, right, And even 268 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:03.240 this kid that I heard, and I'm not one hundred percent, 269 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:03.799 I just. 270 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.720 Heard a little bit of the story, but they were 271 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:13.080 saying that the school was gonna try to back. 272 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:15.919 Him and his legal fees and all this other stuff, 273 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:18.519 which you know he'll get from you know whoever, the 274 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:20.240 George Sores of a world. 275 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:22.519 Oh yeah, you'll have the a CLU the a c 276 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:28.200 l u R be beating down the doors, you know. Yeah, anyway, Look, 277 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:29.320 I appreciate it very much. 278 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:34.200 Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say with green card, I 279 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:36.360 was gonna say all the legality of it then as 280 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.039 part as a green card, if it gives kim to 281 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:40.000 be revoked like that because of. 282 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:42.879 That, I just thought ahead if if I was filling 283 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:44.960 out the application, I put all that stuff, well, I'm 284 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:47.480 gonna come to the United States and I'm gonna disrupt 285 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:49.279 and the anti Semitic. 286 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:53.279 And I'm sure my uh my application will get denied. 287 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:56.240 Couldn't could agree with you more yet. No, And as 288 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:58.600 I say, he has has achieved a little bit more 289 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.799 as permanent legal status, but again he's not a citizen. 290 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:05.319 Get him out as far as I'm concerned. Thank you, John, 291 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:06.279 I appreciate it much. 292 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:06.799 Thank you Dan. 293 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:10.119 Right now, I know that some of my my legal 294 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:11.799 friends are going to disagree with me in this one, 295 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.240 but I'm sick. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it. 296 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:16.599 It's as simple as that. This is not a question 297 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:19.920 of uh, you know, civil rights. This is a question 298 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:23.599 of somebody who's coming here with a political purpose. He's 299 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:28.200 exercising that political purpose and disrupting the lives of other people. 300 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:30.440 That's not what this country is supposed to be about. 301 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:32.319 Bob and Rain and Bob, you're next to the nights. 302 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:33.079 I go right ahead. 303 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:38.599 Hey Dan, I'm a little bit familiar with this case, 304 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:41.440 but I don't want to speak to this in particularly, 305 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.200 but I do want to speak to you know this 306 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:49.279 DEI nonsense and that it seems like they, what do 307 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:52.119 they support everybody except for the Jewish kids. I mean 308 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:55.400 we're having I mean, these poor kids are being impressed. 309 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.759 I don't think this has I honestly, you know, Bob'll 310 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:00.720 tay you. I don't think this has anything to do 311 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.759 with THEI. I mean, this guy's not here, you know, 312 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:08.400 if he was here as a DEI faculty member, I 313 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:12.200 don't see that nexus at all. I think this is 314 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:15.119 a guy who came here. We let students in from 315 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:18.799 all countries around the world. Unfortunately, many of the students 316 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.720 who are letting in from countries around the world take 317 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:25.440 the seats in graduate schools that American kids could take. 318 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.359 But we'll leave that aside for a moment. We bring 319 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:32.279 students in from We bring students in from China who 320 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:35.480 are coming here have no interest in staying here and 321 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:37.480 are looking to go back to China and use what 322 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:42.839 they learn here against us. Okay, So this guy comes 323 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:45.240 from the respective that we're the great Satan, but he's 324 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:48.240 going to come here, and while he's here, he's going 325 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:51.200 to decide whether the Jewish kids get to go to class. 326 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:53.680 He's going to decide whether or not that building at 327 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:59.000 Columbia is occupied or not. Not in America. I'm sorry, 328 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:01.960 I'm really sorry, but that's that's not what I call 329 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:02.640 free speech. 330 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:06.400 No, I agree with you, but I guess I'm not 331 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:11.880 speaking in you know, for him, but I'm speaking for 332 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:15.240 like all these administrators that are have been allowing this 333 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.960 to go on and having their Jewish kids at their 334 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:24.680 universities being persecuted, and I mean it's it really is disgraceful. 335 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:27.799 I mean, if it was another group per se, I 336 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:29.960 mean it would be shut down in a second. But 337 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:33.400 for some reason, you know, Jewish kids. Oh, it's okay, 338 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:35.640 you know, I guess I don't know what they I 339 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:40.599 don't it's mind blogging to me with them thought processes. 340 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:47.440 Every one of these chancellors or whatever that are that 341 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:49.559 are allowing this to go on in their campus, in 342 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:52.680 my opinion, should be fired. I mean, none of these 343 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:57.440 kids should be persecuted there there. I'm sure the majority 344 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.359 of them are the United States citizens, and the should 345 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.880 be able to go to school peacefully and with no 346 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:07.680 thought that someone's gonna bother them on a on a 347 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:10.920 campus that I'm sure again, most of them are paying 348 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:14.039 big bucks big bucks to go to and they should 349 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:20.559 have a peaceful, happy learning experience and nothing should interfere 350 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:21.599 with that. 351 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:25.759 That's not the place to break it down in terms 352 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:28.720 of you go to a football game at ju Letts Stadium, 353 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:30.720 when you go to Red Sox game at Fenway Park, 354 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:33.759 you pay your tickets. You just like these kids pay 355 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:36.279 their tuition. You want to see the ball game, You 356 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:38.960 bring your wife, your kids, or whatever, your neighbors, and 357 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:40.880 all of a sudden, you get a couple of knuckleheads 358 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:43.599 who are going to run around in the field. You 359 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:47.240 know what happens to those knuckleheads if they don't get 360 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:51.200 get creamed by one of the players. The security guards 361 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:54.799 come out and they're not all that gentle with these guys. 362 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:58.920 I mean they take them out pretty quickly and pretty definitively. 363 00:20:59.880 --> 00:21:03.880 I think the same principle applies here. By the way, 364 00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:07.599 if I could just say, when you talk about administrators. 365 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:11.039 Last April, we had a last spring, we had the 366 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:17.400 chancellor of Vanderbilt University, Daniel Dermayer on uh when they 367 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:20.960 started to protest at Vanderbilt. He told them, you know, 368 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:24.079 they could protest, but once they engaged in any violence, 369 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:27.880 they would be arrested. Well, they made the mistake of 370 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:32.960 trying to occupy the Chancellor's office. They were summarily thrown out, 371 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:36.279 they were arrested, and they were discharged from the school. 372 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:39.799 That ended the demonstrations at Vanderbilt University. 373 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:44.839 That's exactly what should happen everywhere. It should it should 374 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:45.319 not be. 375 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:50.319 I'm with you totally. Hey, Bob, thank you much. I'm 376 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:52.039 up on my break at the bottom of the hour, 377 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:54.680 so let me run for now and we will talk again, 378 00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:57.119 okay soon. Thank you so much for calling as always, 379 00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:02.079 Thank you, thanks, thanks Bob. Okay, gonna take a break. 380 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.480 We'll be back on night Side right after the news 381 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.559 at the bottom of the hour. Six one, seven, two, five, four, 382 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:10.119 ten thirty. That is the only line that's opened. Fill 383 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:12.480 it up and we'll have full on it just filled. 384 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:19.680 We'll be back on Nightside after this. It's Nightside with Ray. 385 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:23.000 Boston's News Radio. 386 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:25.640 All right here. We go back to the phones, we go, 387 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:28.799 let's get everybody and got full lines. Jamie and Wooster. 388 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:31.119 Jamie next on nightside. Welcome. 389 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:34.039 Yeah, no, I call it you early this time. 390 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:40.279 Good for you. I appreciate that I got home early. 391 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.839 Well there's another reason I called you, but I'll put 392 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:48.759 that aside for now. But with this whole incident, Yeah, 393 00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:54.240 this guy, I don't know. I just frustrated with it, 394 00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:57.240 you know, like you know, these get these people do 395 00:22:57.359 --> 00:23:00.599 this and cause disruptions and who U and the whole 396 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:04.680 way works and just annoying. 397 00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:09.119 Well that is the you've Jamie, You've hit the the 398 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:12.960 nail on the head. Because these folks do not like 399 00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:19.079 what's called Western civilization. Their attitude is they would like 400 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:25.200 to see our country run the way the Palestinian Gaza 401 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:28.759