Speaker 1: It's nice eyes with Dan Ray undoing Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 1: All Right, I'll remember four coming up here. Okay, I
Speaker 1: got a couple of options, and again, this is one
Speaker 1: that I'm interested in. You know, I hope you're interested
Speaker 1: in the same issues. If you're not, no problem. But
Speaker 1: I try to challenge my audience and meaning I want
Speaker 1: you to think about these issues. Sometimes it's a challenge,
Speaker 1: which we talked about last hour about a political race.
Speaker 1: There's a big case going on and probably many of
Speaker 1: you haven't heard about it, and for that I am sorry.
Speaker 1: But let me try to explain it to you and
Speaker 1: maybe you'd like to offer a thought on the case.
Speaker 1: It is a case that is really in its embryonic form.
Speaker 1: So we have a legal resident in the United States.
Speaker 1: His name is Mahmoud Khalil. I do not know from
Speaker 1: which country he comes from, but he has been a
Speaker 1: spokesperson at the Columbia University campus for the groups that
Speaker 1: have disrupted the academics of that campus not only last spring,
Speaker 1: but a little bit in the fall, and now they
Speaker 1: seem to be ramping up for more activity this spring.
Speaker 1: The Trump administration has held with held about four hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars from Columbia. They feel that the administration has
Speaker 1: been lax in protecting other students, particularly Jewish students, So
Speaker 1: the US has essentially arrested Mahmoud Khalil, permanent legal resident
Speaker 1: of the US, recent graduate of Columbia and has helped
Speaker 1: lead high profile campus protest against Israel's war in Gaza.
Speaker 1: This is out of the New York Times from today.
Speaker 1: Speaking in Ireland today earlier today, on Wednesday, Secretary State
Speaker 1: mic Or Rubio accused mister Khalil a participating in protest
Speaker 1: that he described as anti Semitic and supportive of the
Speaker 1: terrorist group Hamas. Foreigners who comes to the United States
Speaker 1: and do such things, he said, will have their visas
Speaker 1: or green cards provoked and be kicked out. This is
Speaker 1: not about free speech, mister Rubio said. This is about
Speaker 1: people that don't have a right to be in the
Speaker 1: United States. To begin with, No one has a right
Speaker 1: to a student visa, No one has a right to
Speaker 1: a green card. By the way, at the same time,
Speaker 1: they should you should realize that people who are here
Speaker 1: as permanent residents are protected. Lawful permanent residents are protected.
Speaker 1: They're not citizens, but they are protected by the Constitution,
Speaker 1: including First Amendment free speech rights and Fifth Amendment to
Speaker 1: process rights. Now the question is how are you going
Speaker 1: to interpret those rights. This guy's been arrested, he's been
Speaker 1: moved to Louisiana in federal custody. There was a hearing
Speaker 1: today in New York where his lawyers said would like
Speaker 1: him back in New York. I bet they would, And
Speaker 1: the government wants him his immigration hearing to be held
Speaker 1: in a federal court in Louisiana. A group at Harvard,
Speaker 1: which reportedly faculty in students that Harvard Faculty and Staff
Speaker 1: for Justice in Palestine is a diverse and inclusive organization
Speaker 1: of over three hundred Harvard faculty and staff committed to
Speaker 1: Palestine Palestinian liberation. What that means essentially is a total
Speaker 1: disruption of Israel because Palestinian liberation is not going to
Speaker 1: occur on the West Bank, is not going to occur
Speaker 1: in Gaza. Tried that, been there, done that didn't quite
Speaker 1: work out. Witness October seventh. This is the local chapter
Speaker 1: for the National Faculty and Staff for Justice in Palestine.
Speaker 1: So they're all upset that mahmou Khalil has been arrested
Speaker 1: for their words. His peaceful advocacy against genocide. They always
Speaker 1: they say, whoever frames the argument wins the issue. And
Speaker 1: the cancelation of federal research, they link this to cancelation
Speaker 1: of federal research funding at Columbia and other universities across
Speaker 1: the country constitute significant blows to academic freedom and American
Speaker 1: civil liberties. So this guy basically was one of the
Speaker 1: leaders of the protests at Columbia a year ago that
Speaker 1: really did get out of hand. I don't know how
Speaker 1: much videotape the government has here, and I don't know
Speaker 1: how you balance his rights for free speech. It's one
Speaker 1: thing to write a column or a period a demonstration.
Speaker 1: It's another thing to block students who happen to be
Speaker 1: Jewish from getting onto campus, as was done at Columbia.
Speaker 1: It's another thing to take over university classrooms and buildings
Speaker 1: and dist up the conduct of the university, which was
Speaker 1: done at Columbia last year. This will be There's not
Speaker 1: much in terms of past cases that you can rely
Speaker 1: upon for precedent. This will be a case that will eventually,
Speaker 1: I suspect go to the Supreme Court. But I just
Speaker 1: want to set out my position and I'd love to
Speaker 1: hear your position on this, if you're so interested. I'm
Speaker 1: not bothered by the fact that this guy is going
Speaker 1: to be deported. I'm really not okay. You come to
Speaker 1: the United States and you want to disrupt classes at Columbia.
Speaker 1: You want to prevent Jewish students from fulfilling their academic
Speaker 1: obligations at Columbia. You want to take over university buildings,
Speaker 1: you want to hold captive. And there were people janitors
Speaker 1: who were in those buildings. When they got there, the
Speaker 1: students wouldn't let them out. They wouldn't let them out
Speaker 1: because they didn't want to open a door which could
Speaker 1: have allowed the police to come in. But they still
Speaker 1: kept employees of Columbia University inside, in effect kidnapped against
Speaker 1: their will. As far as I'm concerned, this guy is
Speaker 1: adding nothing to the debate. We can have the debate
Speaker 1: on campus, but I do not need Mood Khalil just
Speaker 1: basically disrupting one of the most prestigious universities in this country,
Speaker 1: Columbia University. He has come here as an advocate of
Speaker 1: Hamas and an advocate for an organization that killed more
Speaker 1: people of Jewish ancestry in one day. October seventh, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three than had been killed on any other day
Speaker 1: since the Holocaust of the nineteen thirties and the nineteen forties.
Speaker 1: So that's my take on it. I'd love to know
Speaker 1: what your take on it is. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: some free speech person, and I like to consider myself
Speaker 1: as an absolutist on the First Amendment speech, But when
Speaker 1: speech gets to action, it's no longer speech. And when
Speaker 1: speech starts to block access for other people to what
Speaker 1: they want, whether it's blocking cars on the highway because
Speaker 1: you're upset about something, or whether it's preventing students from
Speaker 1: going into classrooms, that is for me problematic, very problematic,
Speaker 1: And that is for me what changes the dynamic of
Speaker 1: the conversation. So I don't know how many of you
Speaker 1: are familiar with the case, but I feel that in
Speaker 1: this case, this guy came to the country, he got
Speaker 1: his I guess he got a master's degree in international
Speaker 1: public affairs last December from Columbia. Good for you. Take
Speaker 1: your degree with you, uh, and don't darken our shores again.
Speaker 1: Go back and do whatever you got to do, but
Speaker 1: you're not going to do it here in America. That's
Speaker 1: my position. Uh. I know that many of my friends
Speaker 1: on the bar are going to disagree with that. Uh.
Speaker 1: And if you want to disagree with it, bring it on.
Speaker 1: All points of view are welcome. I'm not even interested
Speaker 1: in arguing with you. I'd love to know if there
Speaker 1: is support for this. I've had it up to here
Speaker 1: with the campus protests. Okay, Uh. I saw what happened
Speaker 1: to Israel. I saw how they responded. I saw that
Speaker 1: the Palestinian people elected Hamas to lead, to lead Gaza
Speaker 1: to their detriment, to their detriment. I wish it had
Speaker 1: never happened. Uh. And they're uh. And there are still
Speaker 1: people in captivity and Americans in captivity six one seven,
Speaker 1: six one seven nine, three thirty. This is a red
Speaker 1: meat topic. You want red meat, Let's have ad it.
Speaker 1: Joined the conversation, coming right back on now, back to
Speaker 1: Dan Ray live from the Window World night Side Studios
Speaker 1: on WBZ News Radio. Back to the phones we go.
Speaker 1: Let's start it off with John in Boxbro, John, your thoughts.
Speaker 1: I'd really like to get at the temperature of my
Speaker 1: audience on this issue tonight. Go right ahead, John, And
Speaker 1: can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, kid, go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, my views line up with yours as far as
Speaker 2: green cards go. And I'm not that familiar, but I
Speaker 2: would imagine you'd have to fill out an application one
Speaker 2: year what you're coming to the United States for, and
Speaker 2: you know what you're going to do. And I would
Speaker 2: imagine if he filled out.
Speaker 4: That, you know, he was going to attack to your students.
Speaker 2: On campus and disseminate, you know, anti Semitic literature and
Speaker 2: so on and so forth, you'd probably get denied that
Speaker 2: green card application, I would imagine. And to your point, actually,
Speaker 2: he's not even a student. He's a graduate student, is
Speaker 2: they He's.
Speaker 1: A graduate, so he's no longer a student here. I
Speaker 1: have no idea what I agree with you. I thought
Speaker 1: that's a very clever way to put it. And I
Speaker 1: agree with you that that he would not have said
Speaker 1: that his purpose was to come here to block students,
Speaker 1: threaten students, take over buildings at the university, lead violent demonstrations.
Speaker 1: I mean this this guy. I'm hoping that they can
Speaker 1: show he was in the midst of it. I don't
Speaker 1: need the guy here, I really don't. I really don't.
Speaker 1: Jewish students should be allowed to go to whatever college
Speaker 1: and university they want, and they should not be in
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, prevented, discriminated against, intimidated, spat
Speaker 1: upon everything that they have been undergoing at college campuses
Speaker 1: across the country. It's time for the country to wake up.
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 5: And you know what in the disgrace of.
Speaker 2: What happened, I mean, you had four young you know,
Speaker 2: people enjoying the concert getting murdered, you know, babies getting murdered,
Speaker 2: and people being attacked, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: it's flipped upside down on its head and everyone's against the.
Speaker 5: Jewish students, you know, uh, you.
Speaker 2: Know, well, I mean it's it's mind blowing to me. Dan, Well,
Speaker 2: it has to me as well.
Speaker 1: Does virilad anti Semitism abroad in the land? Okay? And
Speaker 1: what is Israel supposed to do like roll over and
Speaker 1: and go away and leave the country that they have
Speaker 1: built for the last seventy five flexibly seventy five years?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I had the same how arguing with my cousin.
Speaker 5: He's early far left.
Speaker 2: I'm in the center. But I said it would be
Speaker 2: the same thing after nine to eleven if other country
Speaker 2: said to the United States, we'll sit any hands now.
Speaker 5: And you know, you got to do, you.
Speaker 2: Know, be calm about it, and you know it's not
Speaker 2: what any civil.
Speaker 5: Society would do if they were attacked.
Speaker 2: And it's just a disgrace now in this country that
Speaker 2: you have all these students with privilege if you want
Speaker 2: to go and protest, you know, same with this guy here.
Speaker 2: The ide F is over the Middle East, Go fight
Speaker 2: them over there.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, got good luck with Good luck with that, kiddies,
Speaker 1: good luck with that. Well. The other thing too, is
Speaker 1: that they want to have a protest. That's fine, There's
Speaker 1: plenty of ways to have a protest. But what has
Speaker 1: happened is our definition of a protest has morphed. Has
Speaker 1: morphed to, Oh, you want to block traffic on the
Speaker 1: mass Turnedpike or en route ninety three or ninety five,
Speaker 1: no one eight, No problem. You know you want to
Speaker 1: do it outside of Lax Airport, no problem. It's going
Speaker 1: to inconvenience a lot of people. But you have a
Speaker 1: right to have your point of view heard. Well that's
Speaker 1: that's that's bs as far as I'm concerned. Once you start,
Speaker 1: you know your ability to and I'm and I use
Speaker 1: this metaphor. You've heard it before, so it's nothing new.
Speaker 1: Your ability to extend your right hand fist stops where
Speaker 1: my nose begins. It's as simple as that. And you
Speaker 1: have no right to prevent students from getting to their class.
Speaker 1: This is what it was. Intimidation and violence. And and
Speaker 1: this guy apparently was one of the league organizer's agitators.
Speaker 1: And he's not an American citizen. We can't maybe deport
Speaker 1: an American citizen for that, but he's in a different category.
Speaker 1: Get him out of here, simple as that. It's like
Speaker 1: if fans at Yankee Stadium, did you see the play
Speaker 1: last fall where some knucklehead fans were reaching over and
Speaker 1: wrestling rookie Bets Bets that come over to try to
Speaker 1: catch a foul ball near the stand, and they grabbed
Speaker 1: his hand and his wrist and his glove and they
Speaker 1: were trying to basically steal his glove from it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know if they happened to break his wrist
Speaker 1: and end his career, well, you know, what's the big deal?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: And there were people who saying the Yankees have said
Speaker 1: they can't go to Yankee games anymore. Good for the Yankees.
Speaker 1: They were two knucklehead Yankee fans who thought that they
Speaker 1: were they were more important than the players in the field.
Speaker 2: So absolutely. I don't know if you saw this. It
Speaker 2: was I think it was in New York when they
Speaker 2: were blocking out the traffic and one guy pulled up
Speaker 2: and he got out and he said, you better move.
Speaker 2: He was going to pick up his son.
Speaker 4: He had a visitation.
Speaker 5: He wasn't going to miss a visitation.
Speaker 2: He got up and he dragged the people out of
Speaker 2: the way. They're going, Tommy, and you know, and I'm
Speaker 2: going to pack you back or I'm going to run
Speaker 2: you over. And I said that, you know, that's great.
Speaker 5: Because no one else is doing anything.
Speaker 2: Like like you said, there's one thing that peacefully protests,
Speaker 2: but when you disturb it in ambulances, what if you
Speaker 2: got some guy going to the contiac arrest that has
Speaker 2: to get the hospital they have they go look.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of this would Some of this stuff
Speaker 1: happened with the Wall Street Occupy Wall Street. I had
Speaker 1: a woman who called me. She was a ninety three
Speaker 1: fourth taking her kids, both of them two kids, young
Speaker 1: kids like three and four or five years old in
Speaker 1: the backseat with double ir infections. If you've ever had
Speaker 1: a parent with double ears with a jaw with double
Speaker 1: ear infections. The child is screaming in agony. It's not something,
Speaker 1: it's painful, and she had to sit there. And then
Speaker 1: there was another couple who had been called that morning
Speaker 1: that the wife's eighty nine year old mother was going
Speaker 1: into surgery and it was touch and go and they
Speaker 1: had to abandon their car, uh and then walk to
Speaker 1: an exit and basically tried a hitchhike to get to
Speaker 1: see the mother before she went into surgery. Anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know how.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And he not to interrupt you, but in
Speaker 2: the majority of people, they find out it's frost fund babies. Okay, there,
Speaker 2: they're not even students that one of these universities that
Speaker 2: get billions of dollars in the elements, right, And even
Speaker 2: this kid that I heard, and I'm not one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 4: Heard a little bit of the story, but they were
Speaker 4: saying that the school was gonna try to back.
Speaker 2: Him and his legal fees and all this other stuff,
Speaker 2: which you know he'll get from you know whoever, the
Speaker 2: George Sores of a world.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you'll have the a CLU the a c
Speaker 1: l u R be beating down the doors, you know. Yeah, anyway, Look,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say with green card, I
Speaker 2: was gonna say all the legality of it then as
Speaker 2: part as a green card, if it gives kim to
Speaker 2: be revoked like that because of.
Speaker 4: That, I just thought ahead if if I was filling
Speaker 4: out the application, I put all that stuff, well, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna come to the United States and I'm gonna disrupt
Speaker 4: and the anti Semitic.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure my uh my application will get denied.
Speaker 1: Couldn't could agree with you more yet. No, And as
Speaker 1: I say, he has has achieved a little bit more
Speaker 1: as permanent legal status, but again he's not a citizen.
Speaker 1: Get him out as far as I'm concerned. Thank you, John,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it much.
Speaker 2: Thank you Dan.
Speaker 1: Right now, I know that some of my my legal
Speaker 1: friends are going to disagree with me in this one,
Speaker 1: but I'm sick. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it.
Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. This is not a question
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, civil rights. This is a question
Speaker 1: of somebody who's coming here with a political purpose. He's
Speaker 1: exercising that political purpose and disrupting the lives of other people.
Speaker 1: That's not what this country is supposed to be about.
Speaker 1: Bob and Rain and Bob, you're next to the nights.
Speaker 1: I go right ahead.
Speaker 7: Hey Dan, I'm a little bit familiar with this case,
Speaker 7: but I don't want to speak to this in particularly,
Speaker 7: but I do want to speak to you know this
Speaker 7: DEI nonsense and that it seems like they, what do
Speaker 7: they support everybody except for the Jewish kids. I mean
Speaker 7: we're having I mean, these poor kids are being impressed.
Speaker 1: I don't think this has I honestly, you know, Bob'll
Speaker 1: tay you. I don't think this has anything to do
Speaker 1: with THEI. I mean, this guy's not here, you know,
Speaker 1: if he was here as a DEI faculty member, I
Speaker 1: don't see that nexus at all. I think this is
Speaker 1: a guy who came here. We let students in from
Speaker 1: all countries around the world. Unfortunately, many of the students
Speaker 1: who are letting in from countries around the world take
Speaker 1: the seats in graduate schools that American kids could take.
Speaker 1: But we'll leave that aside for a moment. We bring
Speaker 1: students in from We bring students in from China who
Speaker 1: are coming here have no interest in staying here and
Speaker 1: are looking to go back to China and use what
Speaker 1: they learn here against us. Okay, So this guy comes
Speaker 1: from the respective that we're the great Satan, but he's
Speaker 1: going to come here, and while he's here, he's going
Speaker 1: to decide whether the Jewish kids get to go to class.
Speaker 1: He's going to decide whether or not that building at
Speaker 1: Columbia is occupied or not. Not in America. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, but that's that's not what I call
Speaker 1: free speech.
Speaker 7: No, I agree with you, but I guess I'm not
Speaker 7: speaking in you know, for him, but I'm speaking for
Speaker 7: like all these administrators that are have been allowing this
Speaker 7: to go on and having their Jewish kids at their
Speaker 7: universities being persecuted, and I mean it's it really is disgraceful.
Speaker 7: I mean, if it was another group per se, I
Speaker 7: mean it would be shut down in a second. But
Speaker 7: for some reason, you know, Jewish kids. Oh, it's okay,
Speaker 7: you know, I guess I don't know what they I
Speaker 7: don't it's mind blogging to me with them thought processes.
Speaker 7: Every one of these chancellors or whatever that are that
Speaker 7: are allowing this to go on in their campus, in
Speaker 7: my opinion, should be fired. I mean, none of these
Speaker 7: kids should be persecuted there there. I'm sure the majority
Speaker 7: of them are the United States citizens, and the should
Speaker 7: be able to go to school peacefully and with no
Speaker 7: thought that someone's gonna bother them on a on a
Speaker 7: campus that I'm sure again, most of them are paying
Speaker 7: big bucks big bucks to go to and they should
Speaker 7: have a peaceful, happy learning experience and nothing should interfere
Speaker 7: with that.
Speaker 1: That's not the place to break it down in terms
Speaker 1: of you go to a football game at ju Letts Stadium,
Speaker 1: when you go to Red Sox game at Fenway Park,
Speaker 1: you pay your tickets. You just like these kids pay
Speaker 1: their tuition. You want to see the ball game, You
Speaker 1: bring your wife, your kids, or whatever, your neighbors, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you get a couple of knuckleheads
Speaker 1: who are going to run around in the field. You
Speaker 1: know what happens to those knuckleheads if they don't get
Speaker 1: get creamed by one of the players. The security guards
Speaker 1: come out and they're not all that gentle with these guys.
Speaker 1: I mean they take them out pretty quickly and pretty definitively.
Speaker 1: I think the same principle applies here. By the way,
Speaker 1: if I could just say, when you talk about administrators.
Speaker 1: Last April, we had a last spring, we had the
Speaker 1: chancellor of Vanderbilt University, Daniel Dermayer on uh when they
Speaker 1: started to protest at Vanderbilt. He told them, you know,
Speaker 1: they could protest, but once they engaged in any violence,
Speaker 1: they would be arrested. Well, they made the mistake of
Speaker 1: trying to occupy the Chancellor's office. They were summarily thrown out,
Speaker 1: they were arrested, and they were discharged from the school.
Speaker 1: That ended the demonstrations at Vanderbilt University.
Speaker 7: That's exactly what should happen everywhere. It should it should
Speaker 7: not be.
Speaker 1: I'm with you totally. Hey, Bob, thank you much. I'm
Speaker 1: up on my break at the bottom of the hour,
Speaker 1: so let me run for now and we will talk again,
Speaker 1: okay soon. Thank you so much for calling as always,
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks, thanks Bob. Okay, gonna take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on night Side right after the news
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Speaker 1: All right here. We go back to the phones, we go,
Speaker 1: let's get everybody and got full lines. Jamie and Wooster.
Speaker 1: Jamie next on nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I call it you early this time.
Speaker 1: Good for you. I appreciate that I got home early.
Speaker 8: Well there's another reason I called you, but I'll put
Speaker 8: that aside for now. But with this whole incident, Yeah,
Speaker 8: this guy, I don't know. I just frustrated with it,
Speaker 8: you know, like you know, these get these people do
Speaker 8: this and cause disruptions and who U and the whole
Speaker 8: way works and just annoying.
Speaker 1: Well that is the you've Jamie, You've hit the the
Speaker 1: nail on the head. Because these folks do not like
Speaker 1: what's called Western civilization. Their attitude is they would like
Speaker 1: to see our country run the way the Palestinian Gaza
Speaker 1: strip is run. That's the type of country. They're a
Speaker 1: strong leadership, they're in power. Everybody does what they say.
Speaker 1: If you're Jewish, get out, Okay, there's no conversation. So
Speaker 1: what they do is they come here and they use
Speaker 1: our When I say liberal policies, what I mean is
Speaker 1: we're a very enlightened nation. We have a Bill of rights,
Speaker 1: we have all the first amendments and the various amendments all.
Speaker 1: You know, we limit the power of government. They want
Speaker 1: to use that power against us in order for them
Speaker 1: to prevail. That's the brilliance of what they're doing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's it's frustrating. And plus I've never seen
Speaker 8: I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I've never seen
Speaker 8: a Jewish protest like a Jewish violate protest.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: Well, there have been some uh in fairness on the
Speaker 1: on the West Bank with some of the settlements and
Speaker 1: all of that. Okay, that's that's true, But the government.
Speaker 8: In Israel has always.
Speaker 1: Cracked cracked down, has cracked down on that. They haven't
Speaker 1: encouraged that. The government in the mass encouraged because Hamas
Speaker 1: was the government. They encouraged what went on. They hid,
Speaker 1: they hid in schools, they hid under hospitals. They still
Speaker 1: are holding hostages, you know, a year and a half later.
Speaker 8: I know, it's sad, very sad.
Speaker 1: They will do any thing to win the game. We
Speaker 1: have to play the game by Marcus of Queensburry rules.
Speaker 1: They will do anything to win the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So the real reason I wanted to call you when
Speaker 8: it's not a topic that we have to discuss now
Speaker 8: because I know you're on a such schedule, but I
Speaker 8: know you're an avid Red Sox fan, and I'm sure
Speaker 8: you're aware of the whole Jim Rice incident. So after that,
Speaker 8: my dying, dying thing to ask you about what you
Speaker 8: thought about.
Speaker 1: That, well, I think it was absolutely disrespectful. You got
Speaker 1: Jim Rice, who's you know, Hall of Fame baseball player,
Speaker 1: and he was talking to some young guy in the
Speaker 1: Red Sox organization, and some hitting coach who's never played
Speaker 1: in the major leagues basically tells Rice, hey, leave our
Speaker 1: players alone. That guy should have been canned for for
Speaker 1: simply not understanding who he was talking to.
Speaker 8: They should have said, I'm disappointed in what's his name there,
Speaker 8: the general manager for not backing up Jim Rice.
Speaker 1: You know, well, hopefully they did stuff internally, jalhing about
Speaker 1: Craig Breswell. Breswell's a smart guy, and hopefully they did
Speaker 1: something internally. But that's ridiculous, But that happens in major
Speaker 1: league sports. If you went to many of the Red
Speaker 1: Sox players today and you asked them, okay, you know
Speaker 1: who was who was Rico Petrocelli, a lot of them
Speaker 1: would look at you like you got two heads. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know those are who was Jim Lonborg?
Speaker 4: Yea.
Speaker 8: I admire that kid for coming up to him and saying, Hey,
Speaker 8: what am I doing wrong?
Speaker 2: Jim Rice?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, no kidding, you got Jim Rice there.
Speaker 1: That's like if you were uh, let's assume you were
Speaker 1: uh uh, I don't know, you know, a ballet dancer.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And and and somehow Mikael Barishnikoff was with your group.
Speaker 1: Don't you think you might say that Barishtakoff? Hey, or
Speaker 1: if you're a hockey player and and and you happen
Speaker 1: to bump into Sydney Crosby, you don't think you might
Speaker 1: ask him a question? Yeah, we're totally same thing, same thing.
Speaker 8: Something wrong with that? I just I just like Jim
Speaker 8: Jim's response. I was very happy with how he.
Speaker 1: And and and Rice by Rice, by the way, is
Speaker 1: a gentleman. He came to the Red Sox. He gave
Speaker 1: his heart, you know, he gave his heart and soul
Speaker 1: for the organization, never left the organization. Uh. And look
Speaker 1: he's he's been a credit to to the to the
Speaker 1: Red Sox, and a credit to baseball and for some
Speaker 1: you know, hitting instructor or minor league. They're a diamond,
Speaker 1: dozen't Okay, there a diamond, doesn't. There aren't many Jim
Speaker 1: Rice's those. That's a Hall of Fame material right there.
Speaker 1: Well we got that one in Jamie. Thank you man.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned.
Speaker 8: I was just so happy. I was dying to hear
Speaker 8: your opinion on that.
Speaker 1: Well. I pulled no punches on most of things, and
Speaker 1: on that it bothered me when I read it too.
Speaker 1: I agree with Dan Shaughnessy's piece of the Globe. Dan
Speaker 1: wrote a great piece on that. Thanks you bet you
Speaker 1: the show often. Thank you, my friend. Let's keep rolling,
Speaker 1: going to get Dean in Gloucester. Dean love to know
Speaker 1: what you're thinking about the possible expulsion of this individual.
Speaker 4: Damn out dat them out? Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: I can hear your fine. I read you a loud
Speaker 1: and clear.
Speaker 4: When I lose the face of my phone, sometimes I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not that girl with the phone.
Speaker 4: But I wanted to bring up two points. One. Sure, Israel,
Speaker 4: ever since they've been a country, has been our best friend.
Speaker 4: We have not had a better allies than Israel and
Speaker 4: the Jewish people. Okay, two is the other side wants
Speaker 4: that were next after Israel, after they give her to Israel,
Speaker 4: and they want to get rid of the United States.
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, they're the little Satan with a big satan.
Speaker 4: You got it, the burning flags. So I am yet
Speaker 4: to hear a student, a regular student, answer answer the
Speaker 4: question why they're at it? Uh, you know, sensically and intellectually.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I saw a guy getting interviewed. He was a gay
Speaker 4: guy for gays, for you know, hamas and the yeah, yeah, hey,
Speaker 4: you know if you go to you go to the
Speaker 4: gods and streat, they're gonna pull you up on the
Speaker 4: building and throw you off. And he goes and an interview. No,
Speaker 4: they didn't want to talk. They don't want to talk
Speaker 4: about it, you know, they they they have there's an
Speaker 4: outside thing. Okay, here's the thing. Who woke up in
Speaker 4: the morn and call somebody said, oh my god, who's
Speaker 4: this idea?
Speaker 7: I got?
Speaker 4: Let's have drag queens read to our five and six
Speaker 4: year olds? Sexual content has really a wandish and you
Speaker 4: know who come up with that one? I don't even
Speaker 4: think it's I don't know, but.
Speaker 1: I really want to stay. If it's okay with you, Dean.
Speaker 1: I want to stay on the focus here because we
Speaker 1: can open up a million issues, but.
Speaker 4: I want to say, yeah, yeah, right. What I'm getting
Speaker 4: to is, it's always something outside. It's not you know,
Speaker 4: there's some some there's always this entity or organization coming
Speaker 4: in from the outside. Scott and all this It isn't
Speaker 4: it isn't.
Speaker 1: But again, the distinction here is, you got there are
Speaker 1: plenty of people here in America who want to believe
Speaker 1: in things that you and I might disagree with. And
Speaker 1: that's what this country is supposed to be about. Someone's
Speaker 1: a Democrat, sid Republican, what okay, But this guy comes
Speaker 1: to our country. He's going to go to Colombia, so
Speaker 1: he's going to get a great education. But while he's there,
Speaker 1: he's going to interfere with the education of other people,
Speaker 1: most of all were American citizens. What country in the
Speaker 1: world would tolerate that?
Speaker 4: Nine, You got it. You know, it's just like it's
Speaker 4: almost like like you're hear what we used to call
Speaker 4: good is bad? Well it's bad. It's good.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's up and down. You've got it right.
Speaker 1: And again, you know, we do not need to enter
Speaker 1: into a suicide pack amongst ourselves. We are the greatest
Speaker 1: country in the world. We have the freest country in
Speaker 1: the world in my opinion. Is it perfect? No, But
Speaker 1: as President Obama said, we're always trying to move it
Speaker 1: in the direction of a better country.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: And we've made great strides, or you know, other countries
Speaker 1: they make no strides. And now we're supposed to tolerate
Speaker 1: people coming into our country and using our Bill of Rights,
Speaker 1: our First Amendment against us. I mean, if there was
Speaker 1: a demonstration, if there was an if there was an
Speaker 1: anti Semitic demonstration, I don't know, you know, some some
Speaker 1: group that just said we hate Jewish people, and they
Speaker 1: decided they were going to block Jewish students at Columbia.
Speaker 1: They would be arrested and to be thrown in jail,
Speaker 1: and they should be of course, of course, of course,
Speaker 1: right Dan, I appreciate it. I'm up my break, I
Speaker 1: got you in. Thank you as always.
Speaker 4: Great, great, great subject by bank man.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you call you, ad it a lot. Thank you.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break. I got mar Mike, I got
Speaker 1: two mics and a LENNI coming up. The only line
Speaker 1: that's open and I'll get you in if you call
Speaker 1: is six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back on night Side to finish it off
Speaker 1: for this night.
Speaker 6: Now back to Dan I live from the Window World.
Speaker 3: Nightside Studios on w b Z the news Radio.
Speaker 1: Let's keep rolling here. Okay, we're gonna go next to
Speaker 1: Mike Is in Tewksbury. Mike next on Nightside.
Speaker 9: Go right ahead, Hi Dan, and.
Speaker 10: Join your show tonight. Thank you, Henriche that Palestinian student,
Speaker 10: graduate student. My question is who paid for his education?
Speaker 4: Here is?
Speaker 10: Did the taxpayer pay for that? Did his family or
Speaker 10: his country pay for that? That's one thing.
Speaker 1: Well, I have no way to answer that, but I
Speaker 1: have a strong suspicion it was paid for by American taxpayers,
Speaker 1: by the by some sort of government program that helps foreigners,
Speaker 1: foreigners come here as graduates. Sus am I. That is
Speaker 1: my strong suspicion, which I will hold until it's otherwise.
Speaker 1: It's proven that he wrote the check or his family
Speaker 1: wrote the check for the tuition.
Speaker 10: That's so note talking about expair funding situations like that.
Speaker 10: Do you remember the marathon bombers?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, how could I forget it? The fact that
Speaker 1: one of them is still alive bothers me every day.
Speaker 10: Well, they immigrated here, and the first thing happened to
Speaker 10: them as they went on some form of welfare on
Speaker 10: the taxpayer's dying, paid their way to go to school, everything,
Speaker 10: all the three stuff. And the thing that bugs me
Speaker 10: about that is they they give us their their gratitude
Speaker 10: by doing bad things against our country and our people,
Speaker 10: and they have no right being here. And like you
Speaker 10: said earlier, I believe that they should ship that uh
Speaker 10: student back to where he comes from because he doesn't
Speaker 10: deserve to be here. I mean, I'm a veteran. I
Speaker 10: sacrifice for our country's freedom, and you know, to keep
Speaker 10: people like that away from our country because to me,
Speaker 10: they act like enemies. You know, they come here and
Speaker 10: they want to do bad things to our people. So
Speaker 10: I think I thank you Dan for letting me say
Speaker 10: my piece.
Speaker 1: Well, I thank you for your service in the military.
Speaker 1: You got it all in in about two minutes of
Speaker 1: two seconds.
Speaker 9: Great colle you have a good night.
Speaker 1: Keep calling that program, my friend. Thank you. Keep rolling here.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go next to Lenny and Neddick. Lenny, You're
Speaker 1: next do Nightsager.
Speaker 6: Go right ahead, Hey, Dan, how you doing.
Speaker 3: It's been a while.
Speaker 1: That's Okay, Lenny, come buy more off and we're open
Speaker 1: for business Monday through Friday, eight to midnight. Go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting that you brought up Columbia and the
Speaker 3: student because I don't know if you recall, the Trump
Speaker 3: is threatening to cut off like a four hundred million
Speaker 3: dollars in federal Funday, he did cut off.
Speaker 1: Four hundred million to Columbia specifically, he's not threatening. He
Speaker 1: did it.
Speaker 3: He did it already.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then there's nine other universities I guess that are
Speaker 3: under investigation.
Speaker 1: A lot of them. Yeah. Well, again, what you know
Speaker 1: they tolerated. You know, they're running a university and they're
Speaker 1: getting paid millions of dollars on hundreds of million dollars
Speaker 1: by the US government. The minimum they have to do
Speaker 1: is maintain order at that university so classes can be conducted,
Speaker 1: students can go to their classes without fear of retaliation, retribution,
Speaker 1: or physical violence.
Speaker 3: So with this Palestinian protesting, what baffles my mind is
Speaker 3: there isn't one protester ever that has a sign that
Speaker 3: says we want a two state solution.
Speaker 1: Well, they don't want a two state solution exactly.
Speaker 6: So it's just you know, either either you leave or
Speaker 6: we anth they cleanse you or murder you. And that's like,
Speaker 6: you know, the land to the sea, and that's what
Speaker 6: the Gaza Strip was. Was basically like an underground war,
Speaker 6: you know, command center.
Speaker 1: Exactly, you know, you know exactly the situation there, and
Speaker 1: and and they made no bones about it. And they
Speaker 1: hid under hospitals, they hid under schools, they held uh
Speaker 1: they held their hostages under hospitals.
Speaker 3: And they're just monstrous.
Speaker 1: Well they are monster, the monsters and uh Netanya, who
Speaker 1: thank God, stood strong and did what had to be done,
Speaker 1: the finished the job. Whatever, And let's throw this bum
Speaker 1: out of the country, send him home to Palestine, send.
Speaker 3: Him graduating from them. But he didn't make him proud
Speaker 3: by not hailing the protesters.
Speaker 1: All right, Lyndy, I got three more. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to sneak in. Thank you much, talk to you soon. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. It's gonna be lickily split. Everybody here
Speaker 1: is called late Tim and wooburn. Go Tim, you're on
Speaker 1: the air. How are you, sir?
Speaker 9: I'm good Dan. I'm enjoying your show tonight. They should
Speaker 9: that guy from that guy from Colombia and get him
Speaker 9: the heck out of here.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Everyone has felt the same way, Tim,
Speaker 1: which I think is great. It shows that my audience
Speaker 1: is thinking. If there were other points of view that
Speaker 1: wanted to call, I would be more than happy to
Speaker 1: entertain their point of view.
Speaker 9: I've enjoyed this show tonight, I think more than anything.
Speaker 9: And also April twenty seven, Naroli, Right, I'm gonna get
Speaker 9: to meet you.
Speaker 1: You bet you absolutely, We're gonna have a great morning,
Speaker 1: and I have any questions on it, you let me know.
Speaker 1: Go look at the menu. It's a great menu. I'm
Speaker 1: told it's fabulous food, and we'll have the Winnaker Band
Speaker 1: to entertain us. It will be a real great event.
Speaker 9: I guarantee you can't wait. And I'm gonna buy you brunch.
Speaker 1: Oh you're not gonna buy me brunch, but I'm good.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have brunch. Okay, talk to you. Talk to
Speaker 1: you soon, Tim, looking forward to it. Bring your nights
Speaker 1: that coffee so you can get refills.
Speaker 9: Okay, thanks man, I got my mug right now, Thanks buddy,
Speaker 9: bring it with me and I'll show it to you.
Speaker 1: That's great, sounds great. Thank you so much for being
Speaker 1: Talk soon. Okay, all right, I'm gonna try to get
Speaker 1: two in. Gotta be quick, Harriet, you're late, but I
Speaker 1: gotta get you in under the wire. Here go ahead, Harriet.
Speaker 8: Hi Jane, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2: I agree that you should be thrown out.
Speaker 4: And I don't understand how it got this bot If
Speaker 4: the college is put up for the stop, graduations were
Speaker 4: ruined and they just sat back and let this happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean well, a lot of the administrators in
Speaker 1: the colleges themselves are antisemitic, and and then they're happy
Speaker 1: to see these students acting up. That's why.
Speaker 4: Of course, of course, I.
Speaker 1: Think you hit the nail on the head, Harriet. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to get one more in. I owe you
Speaker 1: more time the next time you called. Thank you for
Speaker 1: being sicteinh directing to the.
Speaker 4: Point, Thank you, Dan, have a great night.
Speaker 1: Great to talk with you. All right, last of the hour, Matt, Matt,
Speaker 1: you get the final word, but we got to do
Speaker 1: it quickly, buddy.
Speaker 11: Go ahead, let's do it quickly.
Speaker 3: Dan.
Speaker 11: You know how I feel. There's no place in any institution,
Speaker 11: public or private, for anything like this. This happened a
Speaker 11: year ago. Columbia deserves the four hundred billion million that
Speaker 11: was taken from them. They are fourteen billion dollar institution.
Speaker 11: They've defunded and taught and continue to teach anti Semitism
Speaker 11: and anti hate and in bigotry against Scionism. That is
Speaker 11: my comment. Other institutions do that. Break down my Street
Speaker 11: in Boston. It's disgusting and it's done all over and
Speaker 11: repercussions and actions have repercussions.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Yeah, you have consequences in this consequence where
Speaker 1: this guy should be deportation asap, as soon as possible.
Speaker 1: Simple will buck They will, They will be fighting to
Speaker 1: the end. Maybe they'll find a judge and they'll prevail,
Speaker 1: but that will once again undercut the structure of our society.
Speaker 7: Which is what they want to do.
Speaker 1: They hate freedom, they hate freedom as we define it.
Speaker 1: They want to run the world. They want to rule
Speaker 1: the world and subjugate people with whom they disagree. It's
Speaker 1: as simple as that. And Matt got to run. We'll
Speaker 1: talk soon, okay. I remind everybody we got the Big
Speaker 1: Nights Eide Brunch coming up on April twenty seventh. It's
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Speaker 1: This coming April twenty seventh, at eleven o'clock, all dogs
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Speaker 1: great Thursday, everyone,