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Speaker 1: Hm h.

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Speaker 2: M. Welcome to the Typical sleptocatches.

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Speaker 3: Before we do, you decide your questioning the matrix from you.

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Speaker 4: Web phoes with shadows and umbersides overside on the same robil.

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Speaker 2: Bust some miss like ghosts in the night.

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Speaker 1: We have a normal pros in secret space out yea.

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We keep the real no frighten, no fright no.

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Speaker 3: Keep backs and disguise from the fields, the ancients, the

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scripts down the mouse, oh vee speak fu stamble, We

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just man look fable, malst target's soul streshing out of

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the stable, Dorman Olympics for product.

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Speaker 1: It's in the midst in reality.

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Speaker 3: You can't resistant wish soul trap, snapping, reading, condition mapping,

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hollid and dreams and their divisions, out of body missions,

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waking up the team.

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Speaker 2: No censorship here, we feel no we lead scheme conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: Kings ringing bells here the freedom ring you sleeping extra

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for rest.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Typical Skeptic Podcast. Be sure to like, subscribe

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, welcome back to another show. I'm really excited

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about my guest today. My guest today is Sean Patrick Hayslett.

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He's been on the show before guys. If you're not

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familiar with him, Shawn is the host of Through a

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Glass Darkly, which I got to tell him that I

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used to have a surf video called Through a Looking

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Glass Darkly, so I got to ask him what that means.

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For a fascinating conversation at the crossroads of paranormal, national security,

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military science, fiction, geopolitics, intelligence and technology, and the unknown,

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Sean brings an extraordinary and unique background to this discussion.

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A technologist, a finance professional, an author, an editor, and

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a former US Army Cavalry officer. He also a former

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intelligence analyst. Shawn has worked in areas involving strategic war

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games and simulations for the Pentagon. During graduate school, he

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assisted future Secretary of Defense Ash and B. Carter at

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the Harvard Stafford Preventative Defense Project, where he developed strategic

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options related to a Ron's nuclear program. Wow, but Shawn's

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interesting extend far beyond the conventional national security. Through his

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show Through Glass Darkly, Shawn explores the intersection between the

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paranormal and the world of military science, hill it's history, geopolitics, writing,

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and the current cultural zeitgeist. Tonight, we'll explore questions surrounding

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UFOs and UAP disclosure, the paranormal, military and intelligence perspectives

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on an almost phenomena, geopolitics, emerging technology, science fiction, and

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what happens when ideas once considered impossible began crossing over

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to reality. And with all that said, i'd like to

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add him to the stage and Sean, thank you so

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much for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Man, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Thanks for inviting me.

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Speaker 2: Rob absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: What I wanted to ask you first was I don't

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think I asked you this last time you were on

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the title through Glass Darkly. I used to surf back

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in my twenties and I had a surf video called

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through a Looking Glass Darkly, Like what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Like, I never understood. It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I first just kind of liked the sound

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of it, and that's what I based the name of

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the channel, and I didn't really think too deeply about it.

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But then when you look into it, it's tied to

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a reference in scripture in Corinthians. I don't know the

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chapter in verse, but it basically it's like Pluto's cave, right,

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It's you know, we're not seeing things as they are,

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We're seeing things as we sense them. Right, We're looking

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through a glass darkly, and that's what reality really is. Right,

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because our senses have evolved over you know, hundreds of

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thousands of years to keep us alive, not to present

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what the absolute truth is. Right, we see a very

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narrow range of perception on both the visual spectrum as

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well as the audio spectrum.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I love that.

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Speaker 4: And for people discovering you for the first time, how

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did you go from electrical engineering, the military and intelligence

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work to exploring the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: So I've always been interested in this stuff, you know,

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It's been a science fiction and horror writer since at

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least twenty eleven. And I used to, you know, write

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a little bit, you know, even before then, just not trying,

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you know, attempting publication. But I would say I really

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started to delve more into it around twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,

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when I read this book called Psychic Warrior by David Morehouse,

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and I learned that the US government literally used psychic

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espionage techniques in order to gather intelligence on our adversaries.

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The technique was called remote viewing. It's real if you

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look on the CIAS website with all their declassified documents.

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It's a real thing. The government, at least what they've disclosed,

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spent about twenty million dollars in the program that lasted

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from you know, at least nineteen seventy two to nineteen

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ninety five when the CIA shut it down once it

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was exposed. Now I know also for a fact that

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that program was the program that was run out of

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Fort Meade, But there were definitely other programs. At the

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very least there was one that Army Special Forces ran,

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and there are you know, there's a whole separate remote

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viewing protocol that's similar to but different from the protocol

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that was developed by SRI in the Stanford Research Institute

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back in the nineteen seventies under Ingo Swan.

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Speaker 2: You do you feel that like over time remote doing

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has been screwed.

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Speaker 4: There's not screwed, skewed like in a perception of like

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some people may not be doing it right or there's

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different versions of it. And you know, sometimes I'm wonder,

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how do we know what's the original og method of

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remote viewing in which one works the best?

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Speaker 1: You know, so there's a number of different protocols that

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are well two things. There's a lot of people who

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are psychic, and they mislabel clairvoyant capacity. As remote viewing,

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remote viewing is very specific, right. It has a very

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specific protocol called coordinate remote viewing or controlled remote viewing,

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depending on which original military remote viewer you learn it from. Also,

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there's something called extended remote viewing, which is a little

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bit you know, deeper in kind of a theta wave

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state that you would get into to get more information,

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whereas controlled remote viewing coordinate remote viewing, it's more of

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a in an alpha wave state while you're just sitting

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down and sketching out what the target looks like. So

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there are a number of variants. Some of the variants

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are almost identical, but the instructor who came out of

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the military typically had to rename it for intellectual property concerns.

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So morehouse teaches coordinate remote viewing. Lin Buchanan teaches controlled

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remote viewing. When Ed Dames was still alive, he taught

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technical remote viewing. Right now, Courtney Brown teaches scientific remote viewing,

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and they're all they're all a little bit different. Then

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there's the Hawaii Remote Viewer Guild remote Viewers Guild version,

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which is based on the Army Special Forces version that

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I just talked about, and then there's a bunch of

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other variants that came out from people who were trained

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by the original military remote viewers. Now, if you can't

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trace your training lineage back to one of those military

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remote viewers. Now there are exceptions, because I've heard anecdotally

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that the Vatican has its own remote viewing unit that

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predated that the Germans had a equivalent remote viewing equivalent

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during World War Two, apparently centered in I think Algsburg, Germany.

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But that's how I would kind of draw the line.

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if you talk about kind of psychic capacity, right, there's

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kind of like or and or magic. And I like

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to use Dean Raiden's doctor Dean Reiden's terminology. So there's

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kind of three broad areas of activity. There's divination, chantment,

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and then there's theorgy. So I would put things like

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remote viewing into the divination category, which is kind of clairvoyance,

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seeing kind of outside of local space time things like that.

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not all clairvoyance is remote viewing, is the way I

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would loosely characterize it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as far as like magic and manifestation, do you

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like to research that topic as well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely So the two other things I mentioned

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enchantment that's kind of related to, you know, you manifesting

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something in this kind of in this realm. And then

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theorgy is kind of evoking or invoking the aid of

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a non human intelligence to help you out right, the

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most obvious form. I think most people in their lives

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have engaged in theorgy. And when I say that, it's

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you know, anytime you say a prayer, that's an act

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of theorgy. And what Dean Rayden will tell you, or

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at least he's told me that spells and prayers from

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an empirical standpoint are indistinguishable in terms of their effects.

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So if you get a big group of people to

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pray for somebody and things like that, like, there are

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real effects and they can be quantified. So that's that's

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kind of where how I would answer that particular question.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's fascinating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you think people would invoke non human intelligence

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is usually a demon, right, like someone like like satanic,

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like either like a demon or a witch like, but

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not not not all the time, right, like we hear

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stories of contact ease, being able to you know, h

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channel benevolent beings for information, you know, but usually sometimes

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when it's something physical, it's more on the lines of

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like witchcraft or you know, someone invoking something, you know,

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a spirit to gain something.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three was that.

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Speaker 1: I would It's complicated, So I would say it depends

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not like of the three things that I just talked about.

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I would even Dean Rayden would say this. You don't

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want to mess with the the orgy stuff, because that's

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that's the part that you can you can't control, right,

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So things might work really well at first, and then

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you get this. The other aspect is because you don't

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know what you're dealing with. You don't know what you're summoning,

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and you know, you might think you're summoning an angel,

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but you're summoning the equivalent of what a demon is.

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But what's really what is even a demon?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like? What non human intelligence are you speaking to and invoking?

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If you don't know, you probably don't want to play

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with it, right, So I so like the short answers,

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I don't I don't know what these people are playing with.

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They may claim to know, but I don't think they know. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that came up recently was Disclosure

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Day with Spilberg, and I know you cover UFOs a

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lot and the recent four drops of disclosure, which to me,

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I'll be honest with you, I wasn't impressed at all.

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Like I have you know people who come on my show,

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and I'm sure you do too, who have much better

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evidence than what the government's putting out, Like, I don't,

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where are you at with this whole disclosure thing?

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Speaker 1: Uh? I would just ignore us. I like, they have

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far better data. There's far better evidence you can find

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for you can determine for yourself whether or not this

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stuff is real more effectively than that government can. Right,

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I mean literally, if this is a nice safe thing

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to do, right, just keep something to write with or

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keep your iPhone next to your bed so that when

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you wake up, just start recording your dreams and then

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over time just periodically review that journal that you put

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together and you will find precognitive hits. That's how you

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know this stuff. The government's not gonna I really don't

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know what their game is right now. I think as

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soon as the Epstein lists heated up, then they kind

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of started throwing us a bone. It could also be

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that there are predictable intervals where let's say, the veil

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of reality things right, and things start coming through, and

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I think, you know, maybe roughly once every eighty years,

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there's a huge wave of sightings, and right now, with

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the technology that everybody has to record what's happening, the

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government's is trying to get ahead of another mass wave

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of sightings that's coming. Again. I don't know if that's true,

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but that could be a case. It could obviously be

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to distract, as I mentioned earlier, the whole Epstein thing,

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they at least are appearing to be serious, right. So

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I attended a disclosure form event in back in June,

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kind of late mid to late June, and one of

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the people that they had present was a psychologist. And

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the reason they had a psychologist is apparently the government

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of the conclusions was it's best to be direct and

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honest about this, otherwise you'll lose trust. It would have

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been nice if the government got that memo in twenty twenty,

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because I think the trust is gone. But the part

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that concerned me is they also did like a COVID

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like analysis, right. Remember with COVID, they were, you know,

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the analysis was like how many beds does each hospital

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have and how much capacity do they have for patients?

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hospitals are overwhelmed, YadA, YadA. So they did similar analysis

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for mental institutions, right, so they you know, essentially took

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like what percentage of the population is going to freak

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out about this stuff from ontological shock and whatnot, and

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of course the number was pretty small, but they also

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looked at how much surge capacity do mental you know,

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the available mental institutions right now have to handle these patients.

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so they're you know, their concern is is they have

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to drip this stuff out so that you know, you

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don't freak out too many people to overwhelm the institutions.

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But but again, like what extremely smart people, the way

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that they analyze the world is not always the way

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the world is, right, I think I think that they're

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undermining their own credibility by dripping it out because people

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think they're just being stone walled and and you know, bullshitted, right,

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excuse my language. So so I think there is there

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is definitely an intent, Like we are in it right now,

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we are literally in the midst of disclosure. But we're

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not going to get, you know, the fundamental answer to

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what reality is. We're going to get like a narrative

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positive positive like I don't know about positive narrative necessary,

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but we're going to get a sugarcoated narrative that only

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describes surface level reality. And there's still gonna be a

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lot of things that just aren't disclosed at all. And

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you can see it in some of the ways that

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the narrative is being shaped already. So if you look

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at the four Drops, there's all this focus on orbs

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and like red fireballs and all that stuff. And then

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you look at this UAP Advisory Group, and what's the

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first thing at AVI lobe says, oh, do not focus,

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like you forget about the past. Forget about the past. Right,

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that's a huge red flag. It's a gigantic red flag.

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And then they have there's a there's a there's a

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huge skeptic on there. I forget, I forget what his

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name was. Be its with an s. Schlemmer or Shermer

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Michael Schermer and like, and he puts out tweets like

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if you've ever had somebody dig a well, right, I

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know of two people who have. These people will show

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up the well diggers will show up with dowsing rods,

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like it could be in Utah, it could be in

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North Carolina. Those are the two examples I have. They

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always show up with dowsing rods and they'll kind of

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do their dowsing thing, find the water and dig and

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they always find water exactly where? Now is that luck?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: That's two examples. Yeah, maybe, but it works, Okay, dowsing

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is a real thing. And you know, Shermer tweets that,

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like you know, anybody you know, like, we're not. This

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is like ridiculous, it's not real. And then he talks

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about this study where people were walking around like with

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buckets of water and it's just like and they weren't

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able to dows with that, and it's like, no shit, Michael,

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the water's static, it's not moving right, the water underground

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is moving like electrically charged rocks and things like that

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that maybe like how this thing works. The bottom line

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is the experiment that you're referring to is a broken experiment.

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It's like absolutely, like it is horrifically poor experimental design.

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And any scientist who wasn't excuse my language retarded would

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tell you that that's a poor experimental design. It doesn't like.

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But the fact that he's throwing stuff out there, I

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don't think he's that stupid, right. So the other thing

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that he threw out there was this report from the

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University of Colorado at Boulder. And why is that significant

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because that's where the Condon scam report came out from

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back back in the day. So they're using the University

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of Colorado at Boulder, which has been known to just

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you know, a hotbed in this topic for disinformation basically,

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And they had this whole Remember, all the stuff that

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they're putting out in these drops are about orbs, right,

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and about orbs, and they're like, you know, they appeared

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they appear to be you know, moving informations and stuff

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like that. So they had they hired a scientist to

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show that this was just some natural phenomenon. This is

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what orbs do. They're just they're they they get the

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like the plasmas like that are formed from meteorites coming

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into the to the earth and combine with dust. They're

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just dirty. They're just dirty like plasmas. Right, and then

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because of their characteristics they formed, they naturally form these

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things that appear to describe intelligent behavior. So again it's

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not like if it came out of Harvard University, I'd

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take it a little bit more seriously or stand for

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or whatever. But if it's coming from the universe, see

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that has like a known track record of just you know,

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shoveling worse ship for the national security. So it seems

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to me that there's an agenda in what they're choosing

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to disclose. That I could be wrong, Like I'm willing

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to be open, but I have not been impressed. In fact,

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I've been the opposite of impressed. I've been pretty pissed

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off every time they put something out. Now, there is

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that one video where something appears to you know, shift

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on a right angle at high speed, but the level

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of resolution of the video, it's like somebody like you know,

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showed me a screen from pong back in you know,

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inn Atari back in nineteen eighty one, right, so it's

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not it's not enough to really convince people at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you what are your thoughts on the reality?

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Speaker 4: Like going back to like everything all the disclosure we

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know and and and you know, I know you you're

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pretty well versed in eupology, you know, So.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: I mean, like even Linda Moulton Howe, I mean not

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that she's a I mean she's kind of a pioneer,

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but like I'm saying, like a lot of people to

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say that we have a secret space program or there

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is some kind of secret space program.

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Speaker 2: Now I can't verify for every.

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Speaker 4: Experience they're coming out and saying they're a part of it,

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but like it seems like there is something out there

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and that's a part of this deception, the anti gravity,

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the free energy or at least that or something. I

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know someone came on my show and showed a patent

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for a TR three B before. Where do you stand

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with all this? I know you're I know you're skeptical,

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but you're also logical. So I really value your opinion.

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Just from our conversation in the past, and I watch

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your show. So yeah, I'd love to know where you're

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at with this whole secret space program thing.

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Speaker 1: So the headline is there's always been a secret space program.

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It started before even NASA, and that's just deal with

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the Air Force, right, and the Air Force started in

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nineteen forty seven, so right roughly when this secret space

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program started. So when NASA, you know, sends up satellites

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and all that stuff, the Air Force is doing that too,

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and they have all sorts of classified satellites and space platforms,

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weapons platforms, et cetera. So that is there's clearly a

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secret space program like that this you know, twenty and back.

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That's horseshit, Like that's absolute horseship. It's not real, like

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and I know it's not real because Corey Goode sued

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people for claiming they were in this secret space program.

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And if the thing were real, he wouldn't have any

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basis to sue them, right, But he claims it's all

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as intellectual property and this and that, like, my experiences

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are not your intellectual property. Your experiences are not my

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intellectual property. So you know the So that's number one.

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Number two, the intelligence community has a good reason to

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make up stuff like this to obscure real secrets and

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real things that potentially exist. So I think it's a

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ready airring. I think it's something that's just part of

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a fairly well organized disinformation campaign. But if you know,

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we had something like that, there would be evidence of

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it where they building these ships, where they you know,

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it wouldn't you would be able to detect some of it. Now,

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do we have like anti gravitic craft things like that.

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That's possible, but I don't think. I don't think everything

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we see in the sky is part of that, If

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that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you think, I mean, do you think it's uh,

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maybe alien or interdefensional or something like that, or.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I think some of it's ours. Like

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I'll give you an example. I just interviewed the Tedesco

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brothers just recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love those guys. They're interesting. Yeah, they're they're

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they're really cold.

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Speaker 1: They and I asked him explicitly, what this the same

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question at least that they saw in their instrumentation. Most

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of what they saw were plasma like like what you

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would call sentient plasmoids or something that operated akin to

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because they don't know if it's sentient or not. So

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these like orbs balls of light. But they also saw

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a number of these things that were like drones, but

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they didn't I think show up on The one weird

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thing about the drones is they they operated according to

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the normal tits of physics, like they weren't doing sharp

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angled turns and things like that, but they appeared to

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be observe serving the orbs, like following him around and

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things like that. The only weird thing about those is

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that they didn't have I think I think it was

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thermal signatures, which is a little weird, but that's something

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that the government confeasibly. I mean, they they came up

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with stealth right back in the sixties and seventies, so

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it's perfectly reasonable for them to come up with something

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that at least masks the thermal signature of a drone,

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which probably doesn't burn that hot. So what I think

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you saw in those cases when the government says, oh,

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it was us, they're not lying, right. Some of those

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drones were US government drones, but they were up there

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to observe these other orbs which were also up at

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the same time.

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Speaker 4: You know what's so weird, Sehn, I don't know if

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I told you this the last podcast we did, but

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this was absolutely fascinating. So when there was I live

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in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, by the way, Okay, to give you

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kind of detail, And if you remember when that drone

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and ORB craze that was going on, like in like

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twenty twenty four, at the end of twenty twenty four,

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you know, I was doing a podcast. I went outside

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and I filmed a drone. I think I still have

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it on my Instagram. It looked like a drone to

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me because it had weird lights on it, you know

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what I mean. So like I was fascinated by that.

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I put it on my Instagram.

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Speaker 2: I put it's just a drone or a plane or

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what do you guys think?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: And I didn't I might repost it because you know what,

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they get a lot of attention then.

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Speaker 4: But then three days later, like maybe two days later,

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I was walking up to the gas station and it

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was a BP gas station if you're familiar with those,

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and like three hundred feet above the BP gas station

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or two, you know, like something like very high up

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in the air. But like in sight and clear sight

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was this plasmoid shape shifting ORB like I've never seen

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before in my life. Like it wasn't a UFO at all,

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but it was like a it was like an orb

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and but it was changing colors. It was going from

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green to purple. And it was like shape shifting in

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a way where it was like moving like abnormally.

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Speaker 1: It was so bizarre.

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Speaker 4: And I tried getting a you know, I tried getting

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like a you know, ah, like I tried getting a

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you know, like to.

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Speaker 2: Film it and stuff.

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Speaker 4: And as soon as I pointed my phone to it,

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my phone blurret out, like it didn't. My phone didn't malfunk.

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My phone blurred out. But then I started to think

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to myself, Well, why isn't other people's cars like fought,

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you know, cause I've heard about when things when they

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have stuff like this, people's cars fail. Or why isn't

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anybody stopping, or why isn't anybody looking at this like

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nobody was, you know, I don't think I was going insane,

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you know, I think I I think I really saw something.

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I just don't know what the mechanics were behind it,

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or like what what it was or you know, I'm

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I'm pretty open in that sense where like, you know,

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I'm not I don't I'm never quick to claim anything

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like I'm just I just stay open about it. And

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I'm like, that's kind of why I have the whole

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like we go deep do you decide thing on my

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podcast because I'm like, you know, I don't want to

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have a confirmation and then be completely wrong about something,

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so I try to leave things open, if that makes

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00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:17,799
any sense.

474
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So one person that's actually good to talk to,

475
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,519
although I don't agree with them very often, is Mickwest, right,

476
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,039
And you know, for one good thing about Mick West

477
00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:34,599
is he can you know, if you talk to him,

478
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,599
just ask him, like, what are the sort of things

479
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,759
that I should try to rule out before I rule in?

480
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,200
What this thing that I might be seeing in the

481
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,440
sky is. And I'll tell you like like real tools,

482
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:46,440
like which websites to go up to see if there

483
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,839
were any aircraft flying over at that exact time. And

484
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,200
then you know there was one I had a weird

485
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,839
sighting that I was like, that was weird? What was that?

486
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,640
And you know it turned out to be a freaking cesta, right,

487
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,240
because I check that, you know, you check that particular website.

488
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:06,440
But sometimes when something's coming towards you, it doesn't look

489
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,839
like it's moving. It looks like it's especially if it's

490
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:10,319
a light in the sky, it looks like it's just

491
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,920
kind of hovering there. So I would I would definitely

492
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,960
recommend like check the day and time Africa, what the

493
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:21,400
website is. But you can watch my Mick West interview

494
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,720
and he'll go over all those things and then.

495
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,759
Speaker 2: I also, oh, sorry, start go ahead, star good.

496
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: Just like common mistakes that people make, like buwllye, like

497
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,559
they'll mistake bulllides for people who aren't used to looking

498
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,880
up in the night sky right will confuse. I know

499
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,440
this is trite, but they seriously will confuse sometimes like

500
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:49,000
planets for you know, something that's that's not so.

501
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I was gonna say was every time that

502
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,119
I've had something that I thought was paranormal and I've

503
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,720
tried to film it, I've always gotten my phone blurred out,

504
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,799
like and that's not I just sweart of got on

505
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:02,039
my Dad's great. But it's not me making an excuse

506
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:06,480
or anything like that. It seems like whatever. Like I

507
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:08,480
don't know if this happens to other people, because people

508
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:10,519
seem to be able to get stuff on film, but

509
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,359
like for me, what I've noticed is it seems like

510
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,720
these entities are whatever we're dealing with, has the ability

511
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:19,279
to knock out power.

512
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,839
Speaker 2: They can then they can knock out your phone. They

513
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,920
can do really weird shit, you know.

514
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,079
Speaker 4: And if they don't want you to be to capture

515
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:30,359
them on film, you know, because I see you're gonna,

516
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:32,039
I don't want you to think about it, you know.

517
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,640
I see entities in the wall sometimes, Like I see

518
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:38,279
entities when I outside, when I I'll go outside and

519
00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:40,839
smoke a joint at night, and like I'll see entities,

520
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,279
like like astral entities, like like all over the place,

521
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:46,920
you know, but like they just seem to be watching,

522
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,279
you know. I can't verify that, but I mean, it's

523
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,160
it's definitely fascinating. I feel like the veils thitting. I

524
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:57,319
feel like we're reaching a new you know, and more

525
00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:58,920
people are gonna start having experiences.

526
00:32:58,960 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: But that's just my opinion.

527
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:04,599
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've seen something. I can't remember exactly

528
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,920
where I read it, but there was it might have

529
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,240
been like a Twining correspondence or something like that where

530
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:16,720
they talk about you know, these things come in predictable intervals,

531
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,240
and we need to make sure that the people know

532
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,200
about it so they don't freak out when these things

533
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,880
predictably show up. This might be the twenty twenty seventh

534
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,680
thing that folks are constantly talking about. But I talk

535
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,559
to a lot of people who've seen stuff, and they're

536
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,640
like super credible people, right, So I mean, I'll just

537
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,359
give you an example. So, have you seen the movie

538
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,480
The Color out of Space?

539
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,039
Speaker 2: No, what's that?

540
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:48,759
Speaker 1: That's the movie with Nick Cage back in like twenty nineteen.

541
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen many too many new movies like

542
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:53,839
I saw.

543
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: I think I watched The Sound of Freedom, I watched

544
00:33:56,759 --> 00:34:01,799
Disclosure Day, and I can't But mostly I'm taken a

545
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:05,400
lot of podcasts, you know, but I'll pick it out

546
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,240
if it's worth of saying.

547
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:10,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the director of that movie had an encounter

548
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,320
with the lady, like the same entity that or maybe

549
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,760
the same entity that Bledsoe purports to have seen. So

550
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,440
there's a like, there's a lot of serious people who

551
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:29,159
have exhibited this phenomena. Did you did you?

552
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,199
Speaker 4: Did you interview that guy on your on your podcast?

553
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,039
Because like I saw on your podcast, you interviewed someone

554
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,880
I wasn't familiar with him.

555
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,519
Speaker 2: But he had an encounter with the lady.

556
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: It looked like, oh, yeah, that's a it's a different

557
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,119
I haven't interviewed. Uh, the guy's name is Richard Stanley.

558
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:51,280
I haven't interviewed him, but but you're talking about John Majorowski.

559
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,199
He also had like a weird encounter with the lady.

560
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: Huh, what do you think?

561
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 4: I mean, you do you do you like bloods? I mean,

562
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,000
do you feel bloods of testimony is credible?

563
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:06,119
Speaker 2: And like, what do you think the lady is?

564
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: If you know, that's that's a crazy ques. Like it's

565
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,039
not a crazy question, but it's it's a very difficult

566
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:19,599
question to answer. Yeah, like I don't I mean the

567
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:26,039
easy answer is I don't know. But I have theories, right,

568
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,039
Like one theory could be again, I'm not wedded to it.

569
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:35,960
That like the lady tends to appear either during or

570
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:41,239
before periods of great crisis right where there's like lots

571
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,159
of bloodshed that happened, yeah, kind of near it. So

572
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,639
the place in fact where Richard Stanley saw the lady

573
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:57,480
was where the cathars were and then you know those

574
00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:01,679
people were brutally suppressed and you know, burned at the

575
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,639
stake in twelve forty four AD after. I mean, she

576
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,360
likely appeared. I don't know if there's any history that

577
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,840
she appeared, but given that they are willing to die

578
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,880
for something that they believed to be true, chances are

579
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:17,440
that she did appear to them. So I mean she

580
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,159
if you can. I mean again, it's it's I don't

581
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:25,960
want to conflate too many things, but it makes sense

582
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,960
in terms of a narrative if you look at kind

583
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,400
of the apparitions of Mary, like Mary and apparitions, so

584
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:35,719
you take Fatima. Fatima occurred kind of towards the right

585
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:41,159
in the middle of World War One, right, So given

586
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,440
the way that the intelligence community, like anybody who has

587
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,199
I've only talked to three people okay, interviewed on my

588
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:54,559
podcast who had experiences with the lady, but every single

589
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,880
one of them was contacted in some way, shape or

590
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,119
form from the intelligence community. So what that tells me is,

591
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,480
whenever the Lady appears, it's a real phenomena and it

592
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,719
scares the shit out of I don't know why. I'm

593
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,199
not sure it could be just because of you know,

594
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,760
when she shows up, sometimes there's mass casualty events. Okay,

595
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:31,039
So what based on kind of those admittedly very loose data, right,

596
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:35,960
I think that if I had to guess, I'd say

597
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,559
she's some sort of emanation of like the Guya super intelligence. Right,

598
00:37:41,679 --> 00:37:46,239
imagine that the planet is a living, breathing and like organism,

599
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:51,239
and she is her, you know, she's an avatar tar

600
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,639
for it to communicate with us. Because people who have

601
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,880
experiences with the Lady also kind of feel a lot

602
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,840
closer to nature and sort of things like that. Another

603
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,039
possible interpretation could be, and this is a wild one

604
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,599
that again I'm not waited to, is that, you know,

605
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,960
millions of years ago, some distant civilization sent out a

606
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,079
bunch of funoymen probes and seated life on all you know,

607
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,480
a variety of planets, Earth being one of them. And

608
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,440
what we're seeing is just the control system established by

609
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:37,280
some super advanced AI that came out of that funoyment

610
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,400
probe to make sure that evolution is directed in a

611
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:47,320
certain direction. Again, just a theory, but I'm right now

612
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,719
I'm leaning more toward the Gaia hypothesis. Now, of course,

613
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,280
there's people out there who say she's a demon, you

614
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,400
know whatever. But people I talked to have I would say,

615
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,800
have had a mix of experiences. Yeah, some very positive.

616
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, one thing about Bledsoe is the and I like,

617
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,840
I've never met Chris Bloodsow. I've never interviewed him, you know,

618
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:13,920
and I've interviewed a lot of people, but I mean,

619
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,800
I've always followed his story. One thing he said was

620
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,480
he said when this Iran war started popping off, which

621
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,400
I definitely want to get to talk to you about, that,

622
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:25,599
he said that orbs were going to peer up for

623
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,719
Israel and Iran and that shortly after that, the ETS

624
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,800
would come and they would, you know, kind of save

625
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,679
humanity because they.

626
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:34,159
Speaker 2: Wouldn't let nuclear war happen. Well, none of this happened,

627
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:34,840
you know what I mean.

628
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 4: And this was his prophecy, or his prophecy was something

629
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,840
like this, I think, right, I don't know yet yet.

630
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,079
Speaker 1: So he predicted the Israel kind of a run thing,

631
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,280
which is an insane in of itself. So he did

632
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,639
predict that, he predicted Yeah, And I think the other

633
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,719
thing again, I don't I don't know if he predicted this,

634
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:03,199
because this I can tell you. The source, So Bob Maguire,

635
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,559
that's the source, claims that he said that there would

636
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:13,280
be a time when Israel tries to nuke Iran and

637
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,880
ETS prevent that missile from ever striking. So it's more,

638
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,440
it's it's far more believable that the Israelis would try

639
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,559
to New Iran. I'm not I would not be shocked

640
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:27,119
by that at all because they're utterly.

641
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 4: Like, if the Israelis nuked Iran, it's like, give me,

642
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:33,199
it would be like US nuking Mexico, you know what

643
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,719
I mean. Like, I mean, I don't know if the

644
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,880
distance is similar, but like what I'm saying is like,

645
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,039
you know, it's like if we if in the United

646
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:41,519
States New Mexico, it would be mutually a sort of

647
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:44,199
destruction on our own people because the radiation.

648
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: So it would be the same for the Israelis. The

649
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:48,639
Israelis nuked and have you.

650
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,159
Speaker 1: You know, in israelis to make logical policy decisions, and

651
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:59,400
I mean logical, not right, So I would not be

652
00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:01,400
surprised by that one bit.

653
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:03,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good thing.

654
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:07,599
Speaker 1: It's something called the Samsung option where if they're you know,

655
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,559
survival is threatened, they nuke everybody, including their friends and

656
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:15,840
allies they're in. They're nuts, They're fucking nuts. Wow.

657
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I want to do, get into you know,

658
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,760
and I want I do want to cover a lot

659
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,119
of the paranormal stuff because like you know, you have

660
00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:26,719
a great mind for the paranormal. But like you know,

661
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,159
I do want to get into some of this geopolitics

662
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,920
because I think it's important. You know, we have the

663
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,079
straight oh horror moves. We have a United States in

664
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:37,639
this conflict. We seem to be a talking Iran. Again,

665
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,320
Israel's involved in it. They're going after Webanon. I haven't

666
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,840
liked a thing that I think, Like I didn't, okay,

667
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,119
like I might have to put part of this on rumble,

668
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:50,199
but like I didn't, and I'm not saying anything that

669
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,800
anybody doesn't know, so you know, maybe I don't. I

670
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,599
don't know, you know, But like I just don't want

671
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:58,280
someone who's Israeli to come after me, like and take

672
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,840
the video down because I heard they can do that.

673
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:01,639
Speaker 2: But that's a little paranoid.

674
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,199
Speaker 4: But so what I'm saying is I didn't know how

675
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,000
bad the situation was with Israel, with what's going on

676
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:11,000
in Gaza, and I recently learned about that, like in

677
00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:13,199
the last I mean, I've heard about it, right, but

678
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,320
then I heard the pallenteer was using AI drones in

679
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,440
Gaza to you know, hurt people and stuff like that.

680
00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:22,119
Then I saw what they were doing in Lebanon and

681
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:24,159
I was like, man, this is fucked up, like this

682
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,400
is insane, like you know, and then it seemed like

683
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,519
they were had their hands in our affairs to where

684
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:32,840
they were pushing us to go to a war.

685
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: And again I'm not against this.

686
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 4: I have Jewish friends, and I always say this, like,

687
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:39,559
I don't want to condemn a whole race of people

688
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,559
because of something their government's doing, because we have a

689
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:44,920
fucked up government too, you know what I mean. You know,

690
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,840
we can't condemn Americans because our government's bad.

691
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: You know.

692
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, whatever you'd like to riff off that, Yeah, yeah,

693
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:54,679
so I.

694
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: Agree with you. It's the Israeli government. The Israeli government

695
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,360
wants you to conflate Zionism with you Judaism, which they're

696
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,679
not the same. Right one is the kind of Israeli

697
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:12,800
equivalent of you know, fascism basically, and I'm not I'm

698
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,880
not going to get too much into that, but Israel

699
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,760
is trying to grow. They have a patch called the

700
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,199
Greater Israel Project. Right it used to be a conspiracy theory,

701
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,159
but it's not. It's out in the open right now,

702
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:31,320
they're purportedly invading Lebanon to provide some distance between themselves

703
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:37,800
and Hisbolah, which was firing missiles into civilian areas in Israel.

704
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,360
So that's kind of the surface definition, but it's all

705
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:45,119
part of this you know, Greater Israel project where they're

706
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:49,960
just trying to expand their footprint in the Middle East.

707
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:56,280
In terms of our government, like our government is their government, right,

708
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:01,519
there's no separation. Right, They've establiedlished enough of a foothold

709
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:07,199
in here, using organizations like APAC to make sure that,

710
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,639
you know, American politicians kind of toe the line on Israel.

711
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,960
So our current government doesn't represent us in any way,

712
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,119
you know, any more than Stalin's government represented the people

713
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:24,800
of Russia. So and it's and it's it's to the

714
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,920
tune of there there's very few people, I want to

715
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,239
say it's over. At least over eighty percent of our

716
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,400
Congress is completely compromised. So that's why you still get

717
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:38,119
that's why you still see this nonsense. But compromised, I mean,

718
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,719
I mean you can look it up and just look

719
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,199
at I think I think certain organizations tried to get

720
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,840
this thing called APAC Tracker, like kicked off Twitter because

721
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,800
they just track who receives money from APAC. And you know,

722
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,920
a PAC should be registered as a foreign uh you know, government,

723
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:05,360
a government, but foreign affiliated organization, right, which most other

724
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,320
lobbying organizations that are tied to a foreign country are.

725
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:15,280
But for some strange reason, totally okay. But as a result,

726
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,920
we're being sent to wars that make absolutely no sense.

727
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,679
I mean, if you even look at hindsight, who benefited

728
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,000
from the war in I Rock, we sure as hell

729
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:26,559
didn't absolutely not.

730
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:29,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, right, and in Afghanistan too, you know,

731
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,039
and a lot of people think that that was to

732
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,719
you know, purvey some kind of poppy plants, because you know,

733
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,679
the opiate epidemic was like so intense here in the

734
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,920
United States. But you know what's interesting about that, And

735
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,519
I knew this is more of a conspiracy theory. But

736
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:47,159
you know, I'm an ex drug addict myself.

737
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: I was, I was an addict.

738
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,119
Speaker 4: I never used heroin, I was it was pills. But like,

739
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,199
but like what I noticed was, you know, when when

740
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,760
the opiates start stopped like as much like it seemed

741
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,159
like the heroin, Like when we left Afghanistan, it seemed

742
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:04,880
like people started using fentanyl more like here in the

743
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,239
United States, like it seemed like the fentanyl crisis started

744
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,840
to go up.

745
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,639
Speaker 2: Like you know what.

746
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 4: But maybe it was just a coincidence, is what it

747
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,840
was when we left Afghanistan. But I don't know if

748
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:18,920
maybe that was one of the reasons why we were

749
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,000
in Afghanistan or what do you what do you think?

750
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:23,599
Speaker 2: Uh?

751
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you know purportedly, right, we had to have

752
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:31,639
a response to nine to eleven, and that was related

753
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:38,119
to that response. So this one, you're gonna have to go,

754
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,039
like you really get really really speculative to come up

755
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:46,960
with a conspiracy theory for it. But if you again,

756
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,159
I can construct one. I'm not saying this is real,

757
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,559
but if you look at what the way the world

758
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,719
is really administered, you get a look at it through

759
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,480
the Epstein files and also through like the Didycompromise or

760
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,039
operation to even Hugh Hefner. Hugh Hefner had all his

761
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:12,280
rooms like like with like video instrumentation and things like that.

762
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:19,480
So there seems to be most billionaires become billionaires because

763
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,800
they're psychopaths, and you have to have a way of

764
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,760
organizing the world such that these psychopaths don't go off

765
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,480
the chain, so they get compromised, right, like systematically compromised.

766
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:37,119
The other thing too, there's there appears to be a

767
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:39,719
system above the system, right kind of centered at the

768
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,079
Bank of Settlements, and like a system above what we

769
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:48,840
think is is real and whatever that system is, it's

770
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,599
decided that there are too many people. And I think

771
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,320
this is this is tied inherently to the Lady as well.

772
00:47:55,519 --> 00:47:59,360
Right if the Lady is an emanation of Gaya, then

773
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:02,199
there's too many fleas in the planet right now, and

774
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,519
you know, it's it's time to kind of So I

775
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:08,519
think a lot of the things that you're seeing in

776
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:13,960
popular culture that are killing people are aspects of that.

777
00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:17,400
I think the fentanyl crisis is potentially an aspect of that,

778
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,760
The migration crisis when we flooded, you know, tens of

779
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,320
millions of immigrants in the in the like this country,

780
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:33,360
the open borders. I think the euthanasia movement in Canada,

781
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,679
where you know, people that are suffering from pain, they

782
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:42,280
automatically try to route them to these like suicide centers.

783
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:45,880
Basically I shouldn't have said that, okay.

784
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we're using it in an educational term,

785
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:51,639
you know, so I think it's I think it's okay, yeah.

786
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:57,159
Speaker 1: The Iron War, insanity, the whole pandemic, right, like the

787
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:01,079
cocktail that we all got or hope hopefully you didn't

788
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:05,000
get but I didn't get it. You'll probably you'll probably

789
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,199
be better off. I just got two. But I think

790
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,960
I think any I well, I'm not gonna you'll this

791
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:12,599
video will be taken down if you.

792
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:14,679
Speaker 2: Know what I did, dude, and I'm not gonna lie.

793
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,159
I I swear to God.

794
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,119
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm not gonna say the comedian was, but

795
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,239
like you know, there was a comedian. I follow a

796
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,000
lot of podcasts, like I've been following podcasts for years.

797
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: I've been watched. I watch all the comedians like Theovonne

798
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:28,960
and Christas Stefano and.

799
00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 4: You know if all the guys that are like on

800
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:34,880
the comedy circuit and that podcast, well, this one podcaster

801
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:38,000
was saying during the time, he was saying, hey, guys,

802
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:40,320
I'm giving out free or not free.

803
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm I'm I'm doing v cards, you know,

804
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,800
like not and not a girls virginity.

805
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:48,679
Speaker 4: You know the card they give you when you go

806
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,840
to the thing and they you know, like so I

807
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:54,400
was being pressured at work too, like I was being

808
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,000
pressure to work.

809
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: They wanted to give us a bonus if we got it.

810
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,320
So I was like, I don't know what to do.

811
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't want to lose my job.

812
00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:03,960
So I I contacted the guy and I was like, look,

813
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:06,519
I was like, I'm in this situation. And he was like, yeah,

814
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:08,239
He's like, I didn't. I was I want to make

815
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,079
it like a joke, like the thing. He's like, but

816
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:11,960
I can send you one, and I was like yeah,

817
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:14,280
and I you know, he sent me one and I

818
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,519
gave him my information and I it worked, you know,

819
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,320
for for my for all my I would that's when

820
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,360
I was working a job. I'm doing podcasting full time now.

821
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,920
But like, yeah, I didn't get it. I got I

822
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,159
got a fake card.

823
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:32,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wish, I wish I had. I just

824
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:34,559
got two and then I was done after that because

825
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:38,199
I had I had because I already had the virus

826
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,079
and it like I just had a bad cough for

827
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:41,760
eight weeks and that was about it.

828
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,079
Speaker 2: I had it too.

829
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,519
Speaker 4: The girl I was dating at the time, we were

830
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,159
she she got it and then she called me and

831
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,239
she told me she had it. And then I was

832
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,199
feeling like really bad for me. I remember I felt

833
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,880
like like this like intensity in the back of my

834
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,719
head and neck, like it was like an overwhelming sickness.

835
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,239
And then I had it in my lungs and I

836
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,360
had it like, uh, just tire, just sleeping a lot

837
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:05,920
and tired.

838
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: But uh, one thing that helped me was thieves oil.

839
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 4: Like my my girlfriend at the time brought me thieves oil,

840
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:13,920
and like, I think that honestly saved my lungs. Like

841
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,199
it's it's it has like clove and some other stuff

842
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,039
in it. But uh, you know, like yeah, there was uh,

843
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,199
that was the time. I'm so happy that's over, you know,

844
00:51:23,519 --> 00:51:25,239
I'm so I'm so happy that's over.

845
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think it's I think, yeah, I think

846
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,280
it's gonna get progressively worse. So so.

847
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: You know, like our car overall situation and the country

848
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,440
and everything.

849
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're gonna see a lot of people,

850
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,639
Like it's a delayed fuse, but you can see a

851
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:47,159
lot of people start dying from that, either from long

852
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:52,079
term COVID or from the other thing. Right, Because it

853
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,960
was you know, an experimental cocktail, it wasn't they didn't

854
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,920
do long term studies on this thing, so, and I

855
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,960
think that was the point. I think that was the point.

856
00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:03,000
I think they the elites, think they're too many people

857
00:52:03,519 --> 00:52:07,519
and they're doing what they can and the lady's showing up,

858
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:10,400
So that's probably freaking them out, at least the intelligence community.

859
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 4: And I gotta ask you a question, So you you

860
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:17,599
took to you took too right, So have you used

861
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:21,320
any protocols to try to do anything to like get

862
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,159
that out of your seat? Like did you are you

863
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,360
into like alternative health at all or anything like that,

864
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:27,960
like where you like, you know, looked into like something

865
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,039
that could like you know, like kind of reset your

866
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:34,119
I don't know, or did you do anything to like

867
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:34,960
you know what I mean?

868
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: No, I mean the the best thing I probably did

869
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,320
was I did like a five day fast, But that

870
00:52:42,519 --> 00:52:46,559
was just for separate reasons, right, That's just that's just

871
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,360
that's a good thing to do from time to time anyway,

872
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:55,639
to reset your system. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean I think

873
00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:59,760
I feel fine. I'm not really feeling many. I think

874
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,440
if you got the booster, though, I think that's when

875
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,639
things start to really go downhillver people, Right, there are

876
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:07,760
people out there who are like on their seventeenth booster

877
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,280
like you know, good luck.

878
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly. Yeah, what I was going to say was,

879
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,400
what's interesting to bring it back to the paranormal.

880
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 4: You mentioned the lady comes as she's like a harbinger

881
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,119
for when bad things happen.

882
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: Remember that was the Mothman too, like that.

883
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,519
Speaker 4: You know, supposedly the Mothman showed up right before that bridge,

884
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:29,599
the Silver Bridge collapse back in was it sixty three

885
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,199
or sixty nine or something in Point Pleasant, West Virginia,

886
00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:35,760
you know, and supposedly the Mothman's a harbager and doom too.

887
00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if she's a harbinger of doom always, right, Yeah,

888
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,679
I just think she she tends to show up during

889
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:50,400
times of let's just say, like high transformation. Yeah. So

890
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:54,320
you know what she would say is she's here to like,

891
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,840
you know, don't despair, to kind of like keep the

892
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,519
human spirit up right, So just because she shows up

893
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:07,920
during these times, does not imply that she's causing these times, right.

894
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,880
It could just be that the you know, collective unconscious

895
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,719
needs needs some sort of a boost to avoid you know,

896
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:23,039
just kind of snowballing into despair, and she shows because

897
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:25,480
again we're talking to Mary and apparitions, right, like the

898
00:54:25,559 --> 00:54:29,800
Catholic Church finds those to be very holy and this

899
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,079
and that. I just think there's a chance they misidentified

900
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,920
what they're really dealing with or deliberately co opted some

901
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:43,360
of the facts to suit a particular religious narrative. Again,

902
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,480
I say that as a Catholic.

903
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,679
Speaker 4: So I wanted to ask, you've gone back to the

904
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,639
Iran War and like what you see with this? Because

905
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:55,440
you were an intelligence analyst and you worked in some

906
00:54:55,519 --> 00:54:58,840
of the highest levels of government, it seems like maybe

907
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,519
you did or maybe you had Errant's like like, so

908
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:05,480
you have to have a mind from wargames.

909
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: Right like or I would think you would. You probably

910
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:09,480
have a mind for wargames. Like what do you see

911
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:12,199
with all this? Like oh, this straight of hornor moves bullshit?

912
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,559
Like you know, it was interesting.

913
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:16,079
Speaker 4: There's a guy on YouTube. He actually took his boat

914
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:17,679
and he went through the straight of hornor moves like

915
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:18,599
he would.

916
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:19,559
Speaker 2: You got to see.

917
00:55:19,559 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: It's hilarious.

918
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 4: But you see, like you see the US ships are there,

919
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,639
and you know the the Iranian ships are there, so

920
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:28,320
it's not a conspiracy they're there. But I mean, you

921
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,039
know what to kind of come full circle, Like, what

922
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:34,480
do you see as a war games analyst?

923
00:55:34,639 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: Like, what what with all this?

924
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,159
Speaker 4: Because it's I think a lot of people are frustrated, right,

925
00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:41,480
you know, because I think a lot of people feel like,

926
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,400
you know, they're saying, we're losing, we're gonna lose.

927
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: Fuel and we're not gonna have fuel.

928
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:48,679
Speaker 4: And then that that acts as the urea, which you

929
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,199
know actsperts like the fertilizer for our food. So people

930
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,960
are thinking, how could the government be so irresponsible to

931
00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:57,159
stay in this war when they know they need that

932
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,639
straight oh horror moves open to keep the world funk, right,

933
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,840
or at least that's what they're telling us, you know,

934
00:56:03,159 --> 00:56:06,960
I you know, I don't know what the real Yeah, sorry,

935
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,199
I'll let you rip off that, but.

936
00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:14,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, like none of these issues. Look, I personally know

937
00:56:14,199 --> 00:56:18,840
a guy who were gained this in the Pentagon and

938
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,719
they foresaw all this, all of it, and it seems

939
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,960
to be what happened because it's obvious, like anybody who's

940
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:33,159
not a fucking retard would have seen it. What I

941
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:38,719
think happened is that Trump has again like I voted

942
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,239
for Trump twice, Okay.

943
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 4: So I voted from once, Like, but you know, like, I,

944
00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:45,800
you know, I'm not conservative, but I consider myself like

945
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,599
an independent, like because I've there have been times in

946
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:51,159
my life where I've been like against the government, like

947
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,119
punk rock, you know.

948
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 2: And then like I you know, I got convinced of

949
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,079
vote for Trump, and I did.

950
00:56:56,199 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 4: But now I'm like, I'm now I'm back to being

951
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,400
independent again because I'm not happy with the way he's

952
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:00,880
doing things.

953
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: So it's like I voted for him. I mean, look,

954
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,800
when I voted for him, there was there was one

955
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,719
party of there's the White Genocide Party, and then there

956
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:18,960
was Trump. I don't like Trump, I never did, but evils, right, yeah, yeah,

957
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,760
it was a lesser of two evils. Now we have

958
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:27,760
two parties. One is the you know, pro Israel slave

959
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:32,840
Party and then the White Genocide Party. So like what

960
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,400
we got to do is we got to vote ourselves

961
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,039
out out of this you know, pro Israel policy, so

962
00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:42,039
that we don't you know, destroy the country by throwing

963
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:47,599
like you know, blood and treasure at something that doesn't

964
00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:51,360
make any sense. And then we got to deal with

965
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,360
the other problem that shows up, right, this is the

966
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,280
party that let let in twenty two million the legal immigrants, right,

967
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,840
So and then is given and free hotel rooms when veterans, like,

968
00:58:03,079 --> 00:58:06,079
you know, disabled veterans are starving on the streets.

969
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,159
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, you know, And I'll just back you

970
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:11,280
up on that. There was a guy from Chicago, this uh,

971
00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:12,360
this black dude.

972
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,239
Speaker 4: He was uh he was filming like his hood of Chicago,

973
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:17,760
and he was like, look, guys, he's like it was

974
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,960
like across the street here. He was like, these are

975
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,280
all immigrants in these these housing buildings. And then he

976
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,320
showed the other side of the street. This is in Chicago, guys,

977
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:28,400
and the other side of the street was tense, and

978
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,880
he was like, those are veterans there. And I was like, fuck, man,

979
00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:33,119
my dad was a Vietnam veteran. I was, you know,

980
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,400
I have total respect for the military. I was like,

981
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,719
you know, I was like, I can't believe they're they're

982
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,079
doing our veterans that dirty, you know what I mean.

983
00:58:40,199 --> 00:58:43,039
Like it's like, you know, but someone made a good point.

984
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,159
They said, if you if you were to roll out

985
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,400
something big on population, you know, and you wouldn't want

986
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,719
to revolt, who would you not want to be able

987
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,960
to fight back? Well, you wouldn't want your retired veterans

988
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,639
to be able to fight back because they could be

989
00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:00,159
your big strategists and they it.

990
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:03,079
Speaker 2: You know, So there is that conspiracy theory too.

991
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, I just don't. I mean, it's just the

992
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,239
people who are in our government, many of them just

993
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,840
never served, so they're completely ignorant to what that you know,

994
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:21,760
what that entails and what that looks like. Is there

995
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,639
a conspiracy, I mean, it's anything's possible, right. There are

996
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:26,639
a lot of conspiracies that I wouldn't have believed were

997
00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:30,440
true ten years ago, it turned out they were totally true. Right,

998
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:35,960
So I just think it's just ignorance that, like our

999
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:42,960
our leadership class is so ignorant of kind of the

1000
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:45,719
ones and needs of the people that prop up the

1001
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:53,719
system that they're just wolfully ignorant about about what, you know,

1002
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:59,199
what people need and those sorts of things. Now, why

1003
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,960
they let all these immigrants in is you know, you

1004
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,480
could argue that there's a corporate rational for it. They

1005
01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:10,800
wanted to bring down you know, labor pricing, labor costs

1006
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,719
and things like that, but it's inherently destabilizing when you

1007
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,159
bring in people who have no tie to to like,

1008
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,239
you know, the culture of the United States of America right,

1009
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,760
and what takes to sustain it. So and that's why

1010
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,920
you get you know, these really stupid. I mean, this

1011
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:35,599
is the war with Iran right now is the single

1012
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:43,559
biggest unforced geostrategic error in American history. Like there's no

1013
01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:47,000
reason for it, there's none. All of it was imminently foreseeable.

1014
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:53,039
And I think I think President Trump got had so

1015
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:56,280
little trust in his intelligence agencies, Like eighteen of them said, look,

1016
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,480
the runs doesn't have news, like calm down. And I

1017
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:03,519
think the Israelis wedged themselves into the discussion, and he

1018
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:08,440
has so many backers that are like Zionist backers, and

1019
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,559
you know, I think after in the wake of the

1020
01:01:12,719 --> 01:01:16,840
Maduro raid, they convinced him it would be easy, just

1021
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,519
like that. Yeah, And there was nobody in the room

1022
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,360
who was just like, you stupid fuck? Do you really

1023
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,760
think the Iranian people are gonna rise? Like? Remember, remember

1024
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,119
they said that about a rock? Remember they said that

1025
01:01:29,159 --> 01:01:32,559
about just about everywhere And they're always wrong? Are you?

1026
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,159
Are you a stupid fuck?

1027
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know the culture that like I had to

1028
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:39,079
remind my audience this.

1029
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 4: The last time Iron was conquered was by Alexander the Great,

1030
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:45,599
like literally like three thousand years ago. I don't think

1031
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:48,440
they've been conquered, well, unless you want to call you know,

1032
01:01:48,639 --> 01:01:52,519
the Muslim Revolution a takeover, you know, but I mean

1033
01:01:52,679 --> 01:01:55,480
that was more of like a political you know thing.

1034
01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:58,440
But like I'm talking about from a foreign invader. You know,

1035
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,320
the last time a foreign and vader, you know, had

1036
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,679
any luck in Heran was Alexander the Great, and he

1037
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,039
conquered Babylon and he conquered you know, the whole way

1038
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:09,800
to India. I have Greek heritage, so I kind of

1039
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,920
studied a lot of that stuff. I love I love

1040
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,480
that stuff.

1041
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: But uh, look, if we if we wanted to do that,

1042
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,960
we could do that, but there would be a draft.

1043
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:23,039
It would take you know, you'd have millions of soldiers

1044
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:27,239
on the ground in Iran, you'd have hundreds of thousands

1045
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,800
of casualties, and you would have a rebellion in the

1046
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:31,519
United States.

1047
01:02:32,599 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: I agree.

1048
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: So you can make it happen. You can try, but

1049
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,119
you try to draft. You know, you've drug draft, like

1050
01:02:39,239 --> 01:02:42,320
for veterans, you tried draft our kids, Like, it's not

1051
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,239
gonna end well for you. Yeah.

1052
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,119
Speaker 2: This is uh, this is from Karen McDonald. She comes

1053
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:48,960
on my show. She's in the audience.

1054
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:51,559
Speaker 4: She says, uh, she says, lots of young women being

1055
01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:53,440
raped up here, and it's a catch and release now

1056
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,280
as Bill C nine limiting free speech. Like so we're

1057
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,519
seeing this, this is what she was into, what you

1058
01:03:00,599 --> 01:03:03,480
were talking about with the immigration. You know, she lives

1059
01:03:03,519 --> 01:03:05,639
up in Canada and we're seeing this in Ireland. We

1060
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,519
saw that Sudanese immigrant saw some fucking lady's head off

1061
01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:11,480
in the middle of the street, and like, you know,

1062
01:03:11,639 --> 01:03:12,559
I was glad to see that.

1063
01:03:12,639 --> 01:03:15,159
Speaker 2: The Irish people, you know, took up and revolted and like,

1064
01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:16,559
you know, it took action.

1065
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:20,519
Speaker 4: Because like I don't know why they're letting all these

1066
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:24,760
immigrants in these countries, but like Ireland's being ruined. And again,

1067
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,559
this isn't racism, guys, We're not being racist. I'm not

1068
01:03:27,639 --> 01:03:30,719
being racist towards any you know. I just think that

1069
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,559
like when you bring in immigrants, it's it doesn't work

1070
01:03:34,599 --> 01:03:37,400
out for a lot of reasons, Like there's cultural clashes

1071
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,719
and you know, they're they're not in.

1072
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: What's ad to do it?

1073
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:44,239
Speaker 1: It's sorry to do it, but follow the process, yeh,

1074
01:03:44,519 --> 01:03:47,960
Like vet the people coming in, uh, you know, offer

1075
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:54,079
visas to people who are well educated and can contribute. Yeah,

1076
01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:57,800
don't just let the leave the border wide open. Yeah

1077
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,400
then let you know me, Like meanwhile, Venezuela emptied all

1078
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,840
its prisons when they came here, and there was a

1079
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,840
time when they took over remember that they took over

1080
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:14,119
that apartment complex and a Urura, Colorado. Yeah remember that? Right?

1081
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,440
People forget all this stuff? I don't, right, and like

1082
01:04:17,679 --> 01:04:21,079
literally local law enforcement couldn't stop it. They couldn't and

1083
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:23,880
then it suddenly went quiet. Like what happened with that?

1084
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: Right?

1085
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: Was there a resolution? So yeah, you just can't have

1086
01:04:29,679 --> 01:04:33,079
unfettered immigration and like not vet these people because you're

1087
01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:35,360
gonna have problems like that in Ireland. I don't think

1088
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,320
he quite cut the guy's head off, but he almost did.

1089
01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:41,719
And you know, the Irish just they started started burning

1090
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,360
stuff down. And that's not the right answer either, right,

1091
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,079
because there's you know, not every immigrant who's even come

1092
01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:52,639
here illegally, you know, is you know, deserves that sort

1093
01:04:52,639 --> 01:04:54,840
of treatment. Having like there, I agree with that.

1094
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,559
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Yeah, that's.

1095
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: However, however, there politicians do what their politicians do, who

1096
01:05:04,039 --> 01:05:07,360
let this happen, So they're just targeting the wrong people.

1097
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,280
And I'll just leave it at that. I'm not going

1098
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:10,360
to say anything more.

1099
01:05:11,079 --> 01:05:12,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree.

1100
01:05:12,599 --> 01:05:15,679
Speaker 4: Well, it's one thing that I you know, one thing

1101
01:05:15,719 --> 01:05:18,960
that I thought was great was when I thought this

1102
01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:22,199
administration was in the right direction when he appointed Elon

1103
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,480
with Doge and Doges was finding out that all these

1104
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,559
you know, misconceptions and people's salaries, you know, that all

1105
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:32,639
these politicians were on the take for large amounts and

1106
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,199
you know, living luxury lifestyles.

1107
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,119
Speaker 2: You know. So I did think that was a good thing.

1108
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,280
Where you did you did you agree with that or

1109
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,559
what did you think of that?

1110
01:05:42,679 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? I just wish they kept going right, But they

1111
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,400
ended up shutting down USAID, which is really ended up

1112
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,000
being a front for all these like riots and things

1113
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:56,280
like that that we experienced. So like all this white

1114
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:02,280
supremacist bullshit, right like that was funded by the Southern

1115
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:07,639
Poverty Law Center, Right, Like they were funding the stuff

1116
01:06:07,679 --> 01:06:11,719
that they were complaining about so that they could you know,

1117
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,519
raise more money. Like everything's fake, everything's fake, And we're

1118
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:20,559
just starting to slowly come to that realization, like a

1119
01:06:20,639 --> 01:06:23,039
government is not here to help us. Government is like

1120
01:06:23,239 --> 01:06:25,920
an oppressor and we just got to try to avoid it.

1121
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,039
As much as possible and try not to get caught

1122
01:06:28,159 --> 01:06:32,239
in it's crosshitters. You know. It's just like you know,

1123
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:33,880
I don't want to get in the January sixth, but

1124
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,920
that whole thing was an FBI op, right, Yeah, And

1125
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,679
there's like literal old lady literal like ladies go into

1126
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:45,519
prison because they just followed the crowd into the protest area,

1127
01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:48,760
right like, they didn't see any signs that said they

1128
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,480
couldn't go in there, and they got put in prison

1129
01:06:51,559 --> 01:06:57,280
for it. So yeah, I don't trust anything like I

1130
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,840
think this is the time when institutions need to just burn.

1131
01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:02,039
Speaker 2: We just I agree, I.

1132
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 4: Say we we take the whole system down and rebuilding

1133
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,559
something new. You know, I'd love to see someone from

1134
01:07:07,599 --> 01:07:11,039
our community get into a political position like which. There

1135
01:07:11,159 --> 01:07:15,320
is one person running. I follow Jake Shield's podcast. He's

1136
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,599
an ex UFC fighter and uh he's he He has

1137
01:07:19,679 --> 01:07:22,440
a a friend named Dan Bilzarian. Dan Bazarian, I guess,

1138
01:07:22,519 --> 01:07:23,440
is running for Congress.

1139
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:24,519
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with this guy?

1140
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:32,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? I sometimes think he's he's like I suspect he's

1141
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:35,960
an Israeli plan right, And the and the reason I

1142
01:07:36,159 --> 01:07:42,920
the reason I do is like anybody who conflates Jews

1143
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:49,719
with Zionists, right, is doing Israel a solid because Israel

1144
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,199
needs Jews to be afraid so that they want to

1145
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,199
fleed the countries where they are and join the Israeli

1146
01:07:57,239 --> 01:08:02,119
military so they can fight and die and Israel wars. Right. So,

1147
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,719
I he's so over the top, like you know, anti

1148
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,159
Semitic that it's like.

1149
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 4: I don't Yeah, yeah, again, they're condemning a whole race

1150
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,680
of people, And how can you do that when there's

1151
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,920
so many Like I've dated Jewish women, you know what

1152
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,640
I mean, Like I have, I have Jewish friends. I

1153
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,159
was a mortgage broker for ten years. I worked at

1154
01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:26,279
Wells Margo. One of my best friends was one of

1155
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:26,880
the managers.

1156
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: He was a Jewish guy.

1157
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 1: Like it's like, it's like, it's like blaming every person

1158
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,600
with Irish descent in the United States for ira bombings.

1159
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:41,079
It's like, yeah, it really is. Yeah, yeah, it's uh

1160
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,840
So I would be highly like people like that who

1161
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,000
are over the top, I would be highly suspicious of

1162
01:08:47,159 --> 01:08:50,560
because they do I mean, he may not even realize

1163
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,720
what he's what he's doing, but all that's doing like

1164
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,840
the israelis Israeli government once people once choose to be

1165
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,800
afraid because then those support is real that much more.

1166
01:09:01,199 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: That's the whole people.

1167
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,199
Speaker 4: They look for the people who are anti Semitic on

1168
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:07,840
podcasts and they go after them. I heard, like I

1169
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,399
heard like that's why I'm trying to like I'm making

1170
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,039
sure that I say, you know, like, look, I don't

1171
01:09:12,079 --> 01:09:14,039
have a problem to to his people, because like I

1172
01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:16,159
heard that there are people that like, you know, they

1173
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:19,479
they hunt down podcasts that are so that they consider

1174
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,680
anti semitic and they wipe them out.

1175
01:09:22,039 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 2: That's what I've heard, you know, I don't know, Yeah.

1176
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 1: Any any pod. I mean, it depends on what's anti semitic, right, Yeah,

1177
01:09:29,159 --> 01:09:34,960
like if you're killing Palestinians, that's anti Semitic, like Palestine, right,

1178
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:41,680
absolutely so, So there are people who are deliberately obfuscating

1179
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:49,960
and like bluntly conflating being against you know, the policy

1180
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:53,479
of the Israeli government with being anti Semitic, which is

1181
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,439
absolute worship, right, It's just absolute worship.

1182
01:09:57,279 --> 01:10:01,199
Speaker 4: So yeah, so so do you see where what do

1183
01:10:01,239 --> 01:10:02,760
you see Like if you had to, if you had

1184
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,439
to predict what's gonna happen, what do you see happening?

1185
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 2: From an intelligence analyst, perspective.

1186
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,520
Speaker 1: So it depends like, if we continue this insanity, you're

1187
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:18,039
gonna see more inflation. You're gonna see fuel prices go up.

1188
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:26,159
And I think they got enough fuel in to get

1189
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:29,760
through the planting season, right, in terms of have enough.

1190
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,760
You know, you mentioned at the very at the very

1191
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:40,479
beginning that the fertilizer, right that, yeah, fifty of a

1192
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:45,319
certain type of fertilizer comes from the Middle East through

1193
01:10:45,319 --> 01:10:51,880
the Street of Muse. So even that slight disruption, you

1194
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,640
will see some food and security in places like Pakistan,

1195
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,720
you know, certain areas of Africa, and that you will

1196
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:05,600
see prices continue to rise in the US while this

1197
01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:14,119
nonsense continues happening. The other thing, too, is we or

1198
01:11:14,199 --> 01:11:19,800
whoever was managing this thing, didn't bother to bake in.

1199
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,800
The revolutionary revolution and military affairs comes out of the

1200
01:11:25,079 --> 01:11:30,039
use of drone technology, right, Like we're scrambling to catch

1201
01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:33,880
up even though we've been funneling billions of dollars into Ukraine,

1202
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:39,840
watching watching that whole revolution happen in real time, right,

1203
01:11:40,279 --> 01:11:47,319
So I would be more concerned with the impact this

1204
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,279
has on the economics of the American people. It's also

1205
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:54,079
weakening the dollar and the reason it's wakening the dollar

1206
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:59,520
is because we've been unable to successfully defend our allies

1207
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,760
in the Gulf because of the stupid war and because

1208
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:07,960
of the advent of drone warfare. We have lost credibility,

1209
01:12:09,079 --> 01:12:12,399
right Like normally the United States was known for like

1210
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,399
if if you know, we say we're going to go

1211
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,279
and do something, you know, we're going to bring mass

1212
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:22,720
and firepower on that area and completely top like top

1213
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,680
top right. So people people say we didn't win the

1214
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,920
Iraq War. If that's worship, we win the Iraq War,

1215
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,319
they're an ally right, Like things are, Saddama's gone, it's

1216
01:12:33,359 --> 01:12:38,800
more stable, et cetera. Afghanistan, that's fair. We we basically

1217
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:45,560
defeated ourselves with Biden's ridiculous withdrawal. Right, that didn't have

1218
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,399
that didn't have to happen that way, but but it did.

1219
01:12:49,239 --> 01:12:53,479
So that kind of hurt our credibility. And then this

1220
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,760
thing is just it's going to be a rough, you know,

1221
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,000
twenty five years to the United States trying to re

1222
01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:06,439
establish that credibility after this debacle. And the other thing too,

1223
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:11,000
is we have a giant yoke around our neck right

1224
01:13:11,079 --> 01:13:17,039
now with Israel, and until that's fixed, there's no hope

1225
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,880
because we're literally just we're literally just executing the foreign

1226
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,880
policy of a nation that doesn't really give a shit

1227
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:25,960
about the American people.

1228
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:28,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're literally giving them billions and trillions of

1229
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,720
dollars just to exist and fund their war games, you know,

1230
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,760
Like I don't know if people know. I mean, like

1231
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,319
a lot of our tax dollars supposedly go to Israel.

1232
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,760
Are you did you hear about this as well?

1233
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about three billion dollars a year.

1234
01:13:41,239 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's insane.

1235
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 4: And people wonder that why am I paying taxes to

1236
01:13:46,079 --> 01:13:48,399
go so it goes to Israel? You know what I mean,

1237
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,039
that's fucking insane. That's actually that.

1238
01:13:52,399 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: We're paying taxes so that we can do things that

1239
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:01,600
cause oil prices to go up for everybody. So yeah,

1240
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,600
there's no They say it's about nuclear weapons and all

1241
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,800
that stuff. Well, if it's about nuclear weapons, we should

1242
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,199
be bombing Israel right now because they're the only country

1243
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:13,399
in the Middle East with nuclear weapons and the fact

1244
01:14:13,399 --> 01:14:16,159
that they have them is absolutely terrifying.

1245
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so funny.

1246
01:14:18,399 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 4: Like I've said, it's been great to see THEO vonn

1247
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:23,119
I'm a big fan of Theobon's it's been great to

1248
01:14:23,159 --> 01:14:26,239
see him be like really proactive about this Israel situation.

1249
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,960
And he was he said something so funny. He was

1250
01:14:29,039 --> 01:14:32,359
like he was like Joe Rugan was like, yeah, He'srael's

1251
01:14:32,359 --> 01:14:34,119
out there looking for the terrorists. And he was like,

1252
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,479
he's like looking for the terrorists. Tell them to look

1253
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,640
in the mirror. He's like, they are a terrorists, you know, Like,

1254
01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:42,720
and he's right, you know, I mean, but you know what, honestly,

1255
01:14:43,119 --> 01:14:45,720
like that doesn't mean I agree with the Ron's you know,

1256
01:14:46,199 --> 01:14:48,159
treatment of their I mean, like, I think Iron has

1257
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:51,920
a beautiful culture, but there they're fuck Their government's absolutely

1258
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,560
fucked up too. They're the way they treat women as

1259
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,920
fucked up. They you know, it's it's insane the way

1260
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:57,600
they treat women.

1261
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 2: Actually, you know what I mean.

1262
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a fan of Iran, but like

1263
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,279
I don't have a beef with them. Yeah, right, Like

1264
01:15:06,399 --> 01:15:09,159
they're not They're not sending my friends to die in

1265
01:15:09,279 --> 01:15:14,800
foreign wars indirectly, right, they're not. There's only one country

1266
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:20,760
that's doing there. So yeah, I don't, I don't. I

1267
01:15:21,159 --> 01:15:24,560
just think that things are massively out of whack in

1268
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,840
relationship I mean they were. I mean, I think this

1269
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:31,399
is still ongoing, but the National Defense Authorization Act, like

1270
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,359
they were trying to merge our intelligence with the Israelis.

1271
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,760
That's are you and kid? Are you kidding me? Everything

1272
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,399
everything that we have that's not stripped down, they steal

1273
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,680
and sell to the Chinese or the Russians, like and

1274
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,880
they have in the past. Right, That's what Pollard did.

1275
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,079
Speaker 2: And that made me think, like of all the people

1276
01:15:53,119 --> 01:15:54,760
that served, Like I don't know if I told you

1277
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,920
my grandfather was a prisoner of war and World War.

1278
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,279
Speaker 4: Two, my dad was a Vietnam vet, and I and

1279
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,560
then I saw that you served, so like it's like

1280
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,079
all the people that served and fought for our freedom,

1281
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,039
it's like it's like being put to waste because of

1282
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:11,000
like what is we're seeing now in foreign policy, you know, yeah,

1283
01:16:11,279 --> 01:16:14,239
and immigration and a lot of other bad decisions, you

1284
01:16:14,279 --> 01:16:17,279
know what I mean, weaponizing sex, religion, all this shit,

1285
01:16:17,399 --> 01:16:19,039
weaponizing transit, all this shit.

1286
01:16:19,079 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1287
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 2: It's there's there's so many avenues where you go down to.

1288
01:16:23,319 --> 01:16:26,119
Speaker 1: Transgender thing, right, like without going in in any detail,

1289
01:16:26,319 --> 01:16:29,159
Like I don't care what somebody does to their own body,

1290
01:16:29,279 --> 01:16:31,319
Like it's not my business and it never will be

1291
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:36,000
my business, but it's a pretty damn good way to

1292
01:16:36,119 --> 01:16:41,359
psychologically sterilize people, right, absolutely, so they don't have children

1293
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,399
and you get a population decline. Right. I'm not saying

1294
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:49,840
that's what's happening, but you know that's again, I do

1295
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,520
whatever you want to your body. That's not my business.

1296
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,359
But at the aggregate level, people will have fewer children

1297
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:57,920
and that's that result.

1298
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, we kind of went really hard on you know,

1299
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:02,520
geopolitics and stuff.

1300
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,279
Speaker 4: I kind of wanted to end it with coming back

1301
01:17:04,319 --> 01:17:06,319
to the paranormal because I know you love the paranormal

1302
01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:10,439
and I do too. What's your favorite subject? Because I

1303
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,319
know you you cover a lot of interesting stuff on

1304
01:17:12,359 --> 01:17:14,760
your podcast. It seems like you're like a nature reality

1305
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,680
type guy. Like, is that your favorite thing to cover?

1306
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,920
What would you say, here's a UFOs. What's your favorite,

1307
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,920
like wu subject to cover?

1308
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,399
Speaker 1: What you said, nature reality type guy? What does that mean?

1309
01:17:26,199 --> 01:17:29,119
Speaker 4: Means that, like you you like to like find out

1310
01:17:29,159 --> 01:17:31,199
what the real nature reality is simulation?

1311
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:41,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it. The stuff that I'm increasingly interested

1312
01:17:41,239 --> 01:17:46,560
in is kind of the occult angle to all the stuff, right,

1313
01:17:47,039 --> 01:17:55,680
like secret societies, people with psychic gifts and how that

1314
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:03,000
relates to the control system, like what what is controlling

1315
01:18:03,119 --> 01:18:07,680
us in the background, and if anything right, it could

1316
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:13,600
just be us controlling ourselves and why right? That part

1317
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,479
uh interests me a great.

1318
01:18:16,279 --> 01:18:18,359
Speaker 2: Deal, I think, can I tell you something.

1319
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're gonna feeling with this, because

1320
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,039
I know you're a little bit skeptical, but you're pretty

1321
01:18:22,039 --> 01:18:24,359
open minded, so you know, like I'm not judging you

1322
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,279
or anything. I'm just I just like I don't okay. So,

1323
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,800
like I've felt at times like I'm a targeted individual,

1324
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,159
and I'm sure you've heard that tone before, but like

1325
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,199
it's not because I have a podcast, Like if I

1326
01:18:35,359 --> 01:18:37,960
was targeted, I tell people I was targeted way before

1327
01:18:38,079 --> 01:18:38,920
I had a podcast.

1328
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,279
Speaker 2: And it seems like like I almost wanted to write.

1329
01:18:41,119 --> 01:18:44,119
Speaker 4: A book called Targeted by the Matrix because it seems

1330
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:47,279
like there's an element to this reality that can like

1331
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,840
interfere in your life. Like for example, like if I

1332
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,720
if I was to tell you, like, hey, Sean, I

1333
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,079
have three great guests tomorrow there this person, this person,

1334
01:18:55,159 --> 01:18:57,960
this person, and I announce it tomorrow, like two out of.

1335
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 2: Three of those will cancel.

1336
01:18:59,119 --> 01:19:01,159
Speaker 4: For this is just my luck or this is what

1337
01:19:01,239 --> 01:19:04,399
seems to happen, or like you know, like always crazy

1338
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,560
shit happen, like if I feel like if I think

1339
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,279
I'm coming into some money or something, something will happen

1340
01:19:09,319 --> 01:19:13,600
where it gets delayed, or it's all computer technical issues,

1341
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:14,439
car issues, like.

1342
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: It's always and I'm not being negative.

1343
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,079
Speaker 4: I try to have a positive outlook on life, but

1344
01:19:20,319 --> 01:19:23,359
like when this such keeps happening, it's like hard to like,

1345
01:19:24,199 --> 01:19:27,720
you know, so I'm not identifying as a target individual,

1346
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,279
but I am saying some weird shit happens to me

1347
01:19:30,359 --> 01:19:33,000
that I can't really explain, and I don't. It makes

1348
01:19:33,039 --> 01:19:35,199
me think that there's a component of this reality, whether

1349
01:19:35,239 --> 01:19:40,279
it's the archons or something that interferes with our life.

1350
01:19:40,399 --> 01:19:42,840
And and to go a step deeper on that, I

1351
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,039
can tell you I've actually had an entity attachment. I

1352
01:19:46,039 --> 01:19:47,840
don't know if I told you about this last time,

1353
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,560
Like now, I've never seen I'll just be I've never

1354
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,039
seen a demon or a ghost, Sean, I'll be honest

1355
01:19:54,079 --> 01:19:56,319
with you, I've never But what it is is it

1356
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,880
it feels like it's like an energy that will attach

1357
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,760
to like the back of my head head or the

1358
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,279
side of my ear and knock my deliverum off or

1359
01:20:03,359 --> 01:20:05,680
it'll nest or attached to my back.

1360
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:08,159
Speaker 2: It's like an energy, you know what I mean.

1361
01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 4: Like, and it's like, so me doing this, I've had

1362
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,560
to learn how to move energy like which you know,

1363
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,079
I can send energy to people. Now I can move energy.

1364
01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:17,319
I don't you know, I don't know how much you

1365
01:20:17,359 --> 01:20:19,199
believe in that, but I'm I'm really open to it,

1366
01:20:19,319 --> 01:20:22,319
you know. So I know that I just hit you

1367
01:20:22,399 --> 01:20:25,560
with a lot of weird stuff, but like whatever you

1368
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:26,239
think of all.

1369
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:29,359
Speaker 1: That, you know. Yeah, So two things.

1370
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:36,319
Speaker 5: So if reality, let's say it's like magic and psychic

1371
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:43,319
stuff is real, right, part of reality is like it's

1372
01:20:43,399 --> 01:20:44,319
consensus based.

1373
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: That's why government has narratives that it wants you to follow.

1374
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,520
That's why I wants you to get locked into like

1375
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,600
a nine to five, so you're not really thinking about

1376
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:59,000
other things. But if reality is a matrix, and that

1377
01:20:59,239 --> 01:21:03,399
matrix is probabilistic, and you can nudge probabilities in your

1378
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:09,600
direction by focusing your intentions on certain outcomes, one of

1379
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,159
the things you should never do unless you know that

1380
01:21:13,279 --> 01:21:15,319
person is on your side and it can help amplify

1381
01:21:15,359 --> 01:21:18,039
those intentions is announced to the world that you're going

1382
01:21:18,119 --> 01:21:21,760
to do something before you do it, because if you

1383
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:26,880
do that, people who are not in your corner are

1384
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,920
gonna secretly hope that you don't get those things, and

1385
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,439
you know they have a vote on reality too. If

1386
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:37,960
nobody else knows about it but you, then only your

1387
01:21:38,119 --> 01:21:42,279
probability nudge is you know, enters into the equation. I

1388
01:21:42,319 --> 01:21:44,520
don't know that's how it works, but I have a

1389
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,199
sense that that's how it works. So what I recommend

1390
01:21:47,239 --> 01:21:50,880
for that is just try a small experiment, right, like,

1391
01:21:51,079 --> 01:21:56,680
try to focus on some objective and don't tell anybody,

1392
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,479
and then just see if it happens. And then if

1393
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,399
it happens to cly then moved to the next thing.

1394
01:22:02,319 --> 01:22:07,279
In terms of kind of the attachment stuff, that stuff's real,

1395
01:22:08,079 --> 01:22:12,800
like it it's it's a thing I would. I mean, which,

1396
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:14,880
what religious tradition did you grow up in?

1397
01:22:15,319 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 4: I grew up as a Orthodox Christian, like I'm I'm I'm.

1398
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,199
My dad was Lebanese American, like I told he was,

1399
01:22:22,399 --> 01:22:23,880
you know, he was in Vietnam. But I mean, like

1400
01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:26,479
my mom's Greek and Italian, so she was Roman Catholic.

1401
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,359
So I was like I was kind of raised like

1402
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:32,079
Orthodox Christian, you know, which is basically similar to Catholic.

1403
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 2: But like right now, I would just say I'm spiritual.

1404
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,880
I don't I don't subscribe to any religious you.

1405
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 4: Know, but I believe in God, and I believe in

1406
01:22:39,119 --> 01:22:42,000
Jesus and I believe in like the ascended Masters and

1407
01:22:42,039 --> 01:22:44,119
stuff like that. I'm just like, I'm not new age,

1408
01:22:44,399 --> 01:22:46,880
but I'm just spiritual to where like you know, but

1409
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,600
I just don't want to tie myself to any religious affiliation,

1410
01:22:50,039 --> 01:22:51,359
you know, which I don't know.

1411
01:22:51,319 --> 01:22:54,600
Speaker 1: If that's happening. I would just go to like a

1412
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:59,039
priest and just ask for a blessing and see what happens. Right, Yeah,

1413
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,079
just try a number of things and then just look up.

1414
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,520
You know, you can use AI too, like what are

1415
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,000
the things I need to do to get rid of

1416
01:23:08,039 --> 01:23:11,640
an attachment? And then just experiment with with some things

1417
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:16,039
and see if it actually works? Right? Who else? Yeah?

1418
01:23:16,079 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1419
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:17,159
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1420
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well dude, we went an hour in twenty three minutes.

1421
01:23:21,279 --> 01:23:23,439
This is an amazing interview. I had so much fun

1422
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,479
talking to you. I thought this conversation flowed really well

1423
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:28,560
and it went really well.

1424
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 2: So thank you so much. I thought this was great.

1425
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for inviting me. It's always a pleasure man.

1426
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,520
Speaker 2: Thanks Ron, Yeah, absolutely yeah. And do you want to

1427
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,279
tell people how they can follow you and anything you

1428
01:23:38,359 --> 01:23:39,399
want to promote? Thank you?

1429
01:23:40,359 --> 01:23:44,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so missing time for twenty thank you. Miss he

1430
01:23:44,319 --> 01:23:46,319
shows up on my show too, so thank you for

1431
01:23:47,119 --> 01:23:52,439
posting my YouTube channel. So definitely show up to Through

1432
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:57,039
Glass Darkly with Sean on YouTube. Please subscribe. I really

1433
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,119
really appreciate that. And then you can also find me.

1434
01:24:01,359 --> 01:24:04,399
I have a website Seanpatrickhayslet dot com where you can

1435
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:08,039
find my books things like that. You can find me

1436
01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:10,560
on Amazon just type in my name and you can

1437
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,680
sell the books that I wrote. You know, please, you know,

1438
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,920
indulge yourself if you can. I have a TikTok channel

1439
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,920
which is thag d you know, Through a Glass Darkly

1440
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:26,720
tagged at podcast, sorry tagged podcast, So definitely check that out.

1441
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:32,079
I relatively it's relatively new. You can find me on Twitter.

1442
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:37,640
I have two separate accounts I have well there's one

1443
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,720
for through Glass Darkly, but it was it was hard

1444
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,640
to get one that made any sense. And then you

1445
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:48,319
can also find Sean P. Hazlet on Twitter. I'm sure

1446
01:24:48,319 --> 01:24:48,920
there's other ways.

1447
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,239
Speaker 4: Jason Jason wanted me to tell you you said good

1448
01:24:52,319 --> 01:24:54,640
job on Jolian Dorian. I wanted to second that because

1449
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,520
we were kind of rooting for you, dude, like you know, like, yeah,

1450
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,479
I feel like you're, like, you know, like one of

1451
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,439
us are you know, you're you're a con, You're you're

1452
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,600
not a big content creator like a lot of these people.

1453
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 2: So like for you to get on that show was

1454
01:25:06,119 --> 01:25:09,119
amazing and you really did. You did a stellar job.

1455
01:25:10,039 --> 01:25:12,319
Speaker 1: You know how. I appreciate that. You know how that happened,

1456
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,920
Like I'm not responsible for that, that's all. Kurt Metzker. Wow.

1457
01:25:18,159 --> 01:25:19,560
If you know who Kurt Metzker is, Like.

1458
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 4: Like this dude that comes on my show, Rock Gestalto,

1459
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,479
he's one of my he follows you, he's one of

1460
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,319
my best friends. Like in podcasting. He does Kurt Metzker's

1461
01:25:29,359 --> 01:25:31,840
show too. He wanted to introduce me to Kurt, but

1462
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,319
like it never happened or whatever. And like Kurt Metzker

1463
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,399
also got Rock Gestalto on Sam Tripley's show too.

1464
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:39,239
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1465
01:25:39,319 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 4: So it's like, man like me afterwards, you know, I

1466
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,560
don't know if you know this, I lost my first

1467
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:44,359
YouTube channel.

1468
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,119
Speaker 1: Can you tell me that story and I'm sorry for you.

1469
01:25:47,159 --> 01:25:49,760
I'm sorry to your audience for having to hear this again.

1470
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,439
But I like what happened because I know you had

1471
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,119
a big channel, a big.

1472
01:25:54,079 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 4: Job, but like the size of my channel is like

1473
01:25:56,079 --> 01:25:59,359
right now, it was like twenty two thousand followers, and like, yeah,

1474
01:26:00,079 --> 01:26:02,239
it was weird, dude. Like they just kept hitting me

1475
01:26:02,399 --> 01:26:06,119
with like violations after violation, and then like one day,

1476
01:26:06,279 --> 01:26:09,199
I remember it was January of twenty twenty five. I

1477
01:26:09,319 --> 01:26:11,199
was talking to my friend Jenna on the phone. We

1478
01:26:11,239 --> 01:26:14,720
were FaceTime talking, and I got an email from YouTube

1479
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,720
and it said your channel has been removed and it

1480
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,319
will not be put back up, and like my heart

1481
01:26:19,399 --> 01:26:22,399
went into my stomach. And I remember this was January

1482
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,800
twenty twenty five. It was like whenter my heart went

1483
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,680
into my stomach and I was like, I just said

1484
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,399
to her. I looked at her, I said, I just

1485
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,000
lost my YouTube channel. All that work, five years worth

1486
01:26:31,079 --> 01:26:34,159
of work just lost. And she was like, holy shit, And.

1487
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:35,319
Speaker 2: You know, good thing.

1488
01:26:35,399 --> 01:26:37,399
Speaker 4: At that point, I had been building on Rumble, like

1489
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,520
you know, I have the new channel. Now I have

1490
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,920
eight thousand followers on YouTube, and then I have about

1491
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:44,920
six thousand on Rumble and you know, Rumble put me

1492
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,359
in the creator program.

1493
01:26:46,159 --> 01:26:48,159
Speaker 2: So that's good. But I mean, like, you know, I

1494
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:49,159
always thank Rumble.

1495
01:26:49,199 --> 01:26:51,119
Speaker 4: I'm like, look, guys, like I'm so happy to be

1496
01:26:51,159 --> 01:26:53,840
a part of Rumble because like when YouTube kind of

1497
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,119
fucking gave me the ass, you.

1498
01:26:55,119 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 2: Know, Rumble was there for me, you know.

1499
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 4: And then I have an audio podcast too, so I'm

1500
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,359
on like Spotify and podcasts and all that stuff too.

1501
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,520
Speaker 2: But I mean, like, you know, it was it was

1502
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:04,520
a nightmare to deal with it.

1503
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,520
Speaker 4: And I was on Twitter like because I guess, like

1504
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,199
you can't get any help from the YouTube you know,

1505
01:27:10,039 --> 01:27:10,920
customer service.

1506
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 2: You have to you know, email the team or message

1507
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:14,319
the team on Twitter.

1508
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,159
Speaker 4: So I'm having these long battle back and forth with

1509
01:27:17,279 --> 01:27:19,920
YouTube on Twitter and they're just like they keep coming

1510
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,760
up with excuse after excuse after excuses to why they

1511
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,720
took my channel down. So I was like, you know what,

1512
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,520
fuck it, Like, I'm just going to start a new one.

1513
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,399
I started a new one and we're back up to

1514
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,880
eight thousand followers. But you know it's started all year

1515
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,039
old videos on file and stuff like that. What was

1516
01:27:34,119 --> 01:27:36,199
weird was I sinked a lot of them to Odyssey,

1517
01:27:36,359 --> 01:27:39,199
So like, I I think my Odyssey channel, like not

1518
01:27:39,279 --> 01:27:41,319
a lot of people follow me on Odyssey, but I mean,

1519
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,800
like I think that goes back to like twenty twenty

1520
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,640
three or twenty twenty two. And I think my rumble

1521
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,920
goes back to twenty twenty three or twenty twenty two.

1522
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,319
And then I have a bunch of zoom files. I

1523
01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:54,319
have zoom files to go back to twenty twenty, but

1524
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,720
some of them are deleted now, which is weird, Like say,

1525
01:27:57,159 --> 01:27:58,439
when I go into some of them, I don't know

1526
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,600
if like time deletes them out or what like, because

1527
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,920
like some of them are just gone. But like I've

1528
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,399
been doing this since twenty nineteen, you know, I started

1529
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,119
in twenty nineteen, and uh, I think yeah, And I

1530
01:28:09,199 --> 01:28:11,039
think my audio podcast goes back.

1531
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 2: To like twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three.

1532
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,159
Speaker 1: So the years I back up, I back up everything,

1533
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,800
like in multiple multiple ways. I was gonna do it

1534
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,680
in the cloud, but like the way we're going, we'll

1535
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,680
get like some email someday, you know, Google deleted all

1536
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,199
of your you know files because there was one one

1537
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,159
you know thing that ARII interpreted incorrectly. What did they

1538
01:28:34,199 --> 01:28:36,399
tell you the reason was though, like what were.

1539
01:28:36,319 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: Many there were?

1540
01:28:38,079 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 4: Like there was it was like it was like it

1541
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,520
was like like misinformation content, you know. Like then they

1542
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,640
said it was something about my affiliates, and I was like,

1543
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,920
you know, like that my there was nothing wrong with

1544
01:28:48,039 --> 01:28:50,640
my affiliates. So I had to stop advertising the affiliates.

1545
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,479
So because one was for like Aminita mushrooms and one

1546
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,159
was for like Kretom, you know what I mean.

1547
01:28:55,239 --> 01:28:57,399
Speaker 2: Like and I was like, you know, like the company

1548
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,600
I used for the creative is all natural.

1549
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,199
Speaker 4: They're out, like they're not any of that bad shit's

1550
01:29:02,239 --> 01:29:03,359
going around or anything like that.

1551
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 2: So like that none of that made sense, you know

1552
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:06,239
what I mean.

1553
01:29:06,359 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 4: So like I was like this, this does not make sense,

1554
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,199
but I guess they have stringent policies on that stuff.

1555
01:29:11,239 --> 01:29:13,920
And like in if YouTube seasons, I'm not advertising that

1556
01:29:14,039 --> 01:29:17,800
now YouTube. I'm just telling what happened. And then one

1557
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,600
of the one of the policies was for a toothpaste.

1558
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,039
Like I'm not even gonna say what kind of toothpaste

1559
01:29:24,039 --> 01:29:26,640
it was. It was a non fluoride toothpaste that had.

1560
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:28,279
Speaker 2: Something in it.

1561
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,560
Speaker 4: You know, you know, you can probably guess what it was. Like,

1562
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,399
you know, there's gold and Silver. You know, it was

1563
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,279
like the you know, and like they took a video

1564
01:29:37,399 --> 01:29:39,159
down for that. They just they hit me so many

1565
01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:39,680
different ways.

1566
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,119
Speaker 2: It was crazy. It was like dealing with like it was.

1567
01:29:42,239 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 4: It was like it was it was a nightmare to

1568
01:29:44,079 --> 01:29:46,960
deal with, honestly, because like, you know, like I put

1569
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,640
my heart and soul into that channel, you know what

1570
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,920
I mean, Like and like it's just I mean, and

1571
01:29:52,119 --> 01:29:54,319
what's weird is like a lot of my colleagues, like

1572
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:58,640
Christmas Forbidden Knowledge News got his channel back, Journey to

1573
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,720
Truth Podcasts got there pannel back, Laura Eisenhower got her

1574
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,680
channel back. I did not get my channel back, you know,

1575
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:06,640
and they all had their channels taken away too, But

1576
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,880
I didn't get mine. I didn't get my you know,

1577
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:10,199
So I don't know.

1578
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I have a kind of I have

1579
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,000
all my episodes on Spotify as well. I don't have

1580
01:30:16,159 --> 01:30:18,359
all the videos, but I have all the all the

1581
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,680
episodes up there too, just as a just in case.

1582
01:30:22,119 --> 01:30:25,159
And I make almost equal money there than I do

1583
01:30:25,279 --> 01:30:26,479
on YouTube, which is odd.

1584
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,159
Speaker 2: But yeah, do you use do you use spreaker? I

1585
01:30:30,279 --> 01:30:32,680
use spreaker for my audio. I like spreaker a lot.

1586
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:38,119
Speaker 1: No, I just I just route through Spotify and Spotify. Okay, yeah,

1587
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:41,159
it's both video and audio, so I just have it.

1588
01:30:42,039 --> 01:30:43,520
Speaker 2: We check out Spreaker.

1589
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,359
Speaker 4: I'll just give you a tip, Like if you go

1590
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,319
through Spreaker, like that's who I use there, there will

1591
01:30:48,359 --> 01:30:51,800
be your main hub. But then from you might already

1592
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,000
know this, but from Spreaker, you can actually distribute to Spotify,

1593
01:30:55,399 --> 01:30:59,319
Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, and then like five other audio places,

1594
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,159
So it really increase your reach as far as like

1595
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,119
you'll still be on Spotify, but you can be on

1596
01:31:05,199 --> 01:31:08,399
all those other places too, and it doesn't do anything

1597
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:11,079
you just it's just like the the the the the

1598
01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:15,560
person the company that will hold your RSS feed will

1599
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,680
be Spreaker, you know what I mean. But like with

1600
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,119
that rss P you can then distribute it out to

1601
01:31:20,239 --> 01:31:22,319
like eight other places, you know what I mean.

1602
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, Spotify is similar. I don't know if it's

1603
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,119
it might it might like that.

1604
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I didn't I'm sorry, yeah, but.

1605
01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 1: That's that's I agree. That's still not enough, Like there

1606
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:39,640
should be other places that I do have a Rumble channel,

1607
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,640
but it stopped remember and YouTube like like it used

1608
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,680
to be. You could automatically upload and then YouTube turn

1609
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,680
that off. Yeah about Rumble, And then I just don't

1610
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,960
make nearly enough money on Rumble to like take the

1611
01:31:53,079 --> 01:31:55,840
care to upload every episode there. It's just not worth

1612
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:56,680
my time.

1613
01:31:57,359 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 4: And so well, I hope we didn't say anything that

1614
01:32:00,039 --> 01:32:02,199
gets this episode taken down. I'm going to leave it

1615
01:32:02,279 --> 01:32:04,000
up on YouTube, but I'm not going to monetize it.

1616
01:32:04,039 --> 01:32:05,720
I'm not going to put ads on it because, like

1617
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,760
I think that that putting ads on it triggers it sometimes.

1618
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,560
Speaker 2: So like we touched on a lot of sensitive stuff.

1619
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,399
I don't think I can monetize this, but I'll leave

1620
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:14,239
it up on YouTube.

1621
01:32:14,319 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I think we probably said a little

1622
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,840
bit too much of the medical stuff we didn't say.

1623
01:32:19,239 --> 01:32:21,199
We didn't say that much on Israel. I don't think

1624
01:32:21,239 --> 01:32:24,680
it's Yeah, yeah, well this was awesome.

1625
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:25,239
Speaker 2: Thanks man.

1626
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 4: I'd love to have you back anytime. And yeah, did

1627
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,720
you have any final words before we finish up?

1628
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: Just, you know, make sure that you come to these

1629
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:38,920
conclusions on your own. Don't listen to you know, or

1630
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,880
don't blindly follow institutions. Sometimes they'll tell you the truth,

1631
01:32:42,039 --> 01:32:44,520
but a lot of the times the way that they

1632
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:48,520
present information always has an agenda, so just you know,

1633
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:53,079
be discerning about what you do and you're gonna everybody's

1634
01:32:53,119 --> 01:32:55,039
kind of on their own in terms of figuring out

1635
01:32:55,079 --> 01:32:57,199
what the nature of reality is. It's only everybody's on

1636
01:32:57,279 --> 01:32:59,920
their own path. So thank you again, Rob.

1637
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:03,239
Speaker 2: You keep them much all right, Have a good day, Sean,

1638
01:33:03,359 --> 01:33:04,079
thank you. Take care.