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Speaker 2: Right on the Ball. Welcome to Monday Show.
Speaker 3: At least we're having some technical difficulties, as you can.
Speaker 2: Kind of tell, but we're back on Monday. We're back
Speaker 2: on air. Jay's not in today, I'm Steve Rivera. He's
Speaker 2: out ill. We got our guy Henry in today and
Speaker 2: got our new intern Matthew. We want to talk real quickly.
Speaker 2: We've got about ten minutes maybe for this next segment
Speaker 2: to finish, and then we'll kind of talk to our
Speaker 2: first guest from last hour. We hope to have that
Speaker 2: last hour, Lamont Huntley, and then we're gonna go with
Speaker 2: Nat Modeno right after him, and then in the final
Speaker 2: segment we'll have time our chance to get get you
Speaker 2: guys to call us so cool, okay cool, so hey.
Speaker 2: We were talking this before we all got discombobulated. Henry
Speaker 2: and Matthew. I thought after watching the game, I don't
Speaker 2: know midway through the not midway through maybe early third quarter,
Speaker 2: that my only concern was that they looked like they
Speaker 2: didn't care.
Speaker 3: They didn't care, So what did you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, after the first half just went all downhill. I
Speaker 4: saw the coach trying to amp up his team, but
Speaker 4: nothing was going on.
Speaker 3: Nothing was cool. That's disheartening, disheartening.
Speaker 5: I think it was really surprising that they came out
Speaker 5: that half so flat because the first half ended so
Speaker 5: well for them with the QB running out the clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could have been worse.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, it could have been way worse.
Speaker 5: I think they should have felt lucky it'd only be
Speaker 5: down by seven and use that momentum into the second half.
Speaker 2: Right, And they just did show up. I thought that.
Speaker 2: And not that this matters because the interception, they were
Speaker 2: driving right, and Noah through that interception he looked quite open.
Speaker 2: Then he didn't all of a sudden. That would have
Speaker 2: been key at least for some confidence in some momentum.
Speaker 2: Fourteen seven, right, and they're looking good. You're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: they got a chance, they're going to score. Right, You're thinking, okay,
Speaker 2: you got the second half or down by touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Right, right.
Speaker 2: And the thing about it is, and you're thinking, if
Speaker 2: you're a Narraso fan, they have a chance to score
Speaker 2: a lot. Right, They didn't even show that, did it
Speaker 2: at all? Well to your to your point earlier that
Speaker 2: we talked about Henry, you gave up at halftime, Well,
Speaker 2: same thing you gave up at halftime. You watched him
Speaker 2: feel good about the game at halftime. I'll say that,
Speaker 2: what about you, Matthew cut it. We couldn't stop a
Speaker 2: running quarterback. Yeah, it was thrown on this and running
Speaker 2: two times in a row with ease. Yeah, well your
Speaker 2: extico guy right all over, Same thing happened, Same thing happened.
Speaker 6: Seeing it again.
Speaker 3: He talked a lot about that.
Speaker 2: I think some of it Today in his press conference,
Speaker 2: Brandon did, what's the solution? Well, I don't know. The
Speaker 2: first time is a mistake. Second times I have it.
Speaker 2: Now they've got to come up with some big, big
Speaker 2: time plays because I jay this too. What do you
Speaker 2: think the Pan base? The Pan base is disheartened very
Speaker 2: much so.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 5: I think the running quarterback issue stems from the D
Speaker 5: line taking too long to get pressure allowing the QB
Speaker 5: to get out of the pocket.
Speaker 6: I think that's a big thing they're good at.
Speaker 5: Last year, the D line really dominated games and didn't
Speaker 5: allow qbs to run on them like they have this year.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, we're gonna go. This is what we're
Speaker 2: plent on doing. We're gonna go through the first through
Speaker 2: the time. We're gonna go through the top of the
Speaker 2: hour and go all the way to the first break
Speaker 2: in the four pm hour. So we'll get ahold of
Speaker 2: the lot.
Speaker 3: Honey. Uh back to the four o'clock. We'll give them
Speaker 3: a call or have a call.
Speaker 6: You want to take?
Speaker 3: Got all we gotta Yeah, let's take it cool.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling. We have some time now, we have
Speaker 2: a next twenty twenty five minutes. Hey, you're on the
Speaker 2: air and eye of the ball. You're on the air
Speaker 2: and hear us? Yes, yes, I can better to hear you.
Speaker 8: You're on speaker.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 8: How are you guys?
Speaker 7: This is a game, jab Jame?
Speaker 3: How are you? Long time no talk?
Speaker 7: Yeah, long time no talk.
Speaker 8: How are you two doing?
Speaker 2: We're doing fine. Jay's out today. He's sick. But let
Speaker 2: me tell you. Let me take a guess. You must
Speaker 2: be really pissed off.
Speaker 8: Yeah I am. Yeah, you want to talk about it?
Speaker 3: Yes, just don't cuss, Okay, I won't.
Speaker 8: Uh so. Yeah. The offense was not the same compared
Speaker 8: to the New Mexico game, gore seven points. The defense
Speaker 8: tried to do some good things, but they couldn't stop
Speaker 8: the run, and the coaching steps from what I've watched,
Speaker 8: didn't really give a you know why, And the players
Speaker 8: same thing. So I think what needs to happen is
Speaker 8: both the coaches and the players need to need to
Speaker 8: need to hunger down and stare down.
Speaker 9: And they need to well.
Speaker 8: For the defense, Dwayne need Dwayne and Keina needs to
Speaker 8: tell the players to tackle, to to to to tackle
Speaker 8: and the and and if if you know, Babers can
Speaker 8: just can't get this offense going, I think he needs
Speaker 8: to retire. And I'm not saying Brent Brennan needs her
Speaker 8: to be fired, but I'm just I'm just stating the fact.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what you're saying is probably what a
Speaker 2: lot of people are thinking in this town.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: We talked about this Friday. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: listened to on Friday, that they that the last thing
Speaker 2: they could do was not play well and not stay close.
Speaker 2: It was close for two quarters and then it was over.
Speaker 2: After that, Like I said, I was disheartened, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure as a fan as opposed as you are, to
Speaker 2: following the team that.
Speaker 3: They just didn't show up. It's like they didn't care.
Speaker 3: They're indifferent.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, you're one right.
Speaker 8: I was watching the game, I think the four There
Speaker 8: was a few minutes going the fourth quarter, and I
Speaker 8: don't want to pick on this player, but Justin Floyd
Speaker 8: was kind of chuckling or joking. I really don't want
Speaker 8: to pick on you, Justin, but come on, you guys,
Speaker 8: look fits off.
Speaker 2: Please, no, no, hey, I saw the same thing, Gabe.
Speaker 2: I saw the same thing, and I thought the same thing.
Speaker 2: As you're getting your butt kicked and you're acting like that,
Speaker 2: that's the last thing you want to be looking like.
Speaker 2: You're like you're having fun on the sideline. And whether
Speaker 2: it was just like one of those bad camera moments
Speaker 2: where you're you know, talking it up or whatever and
Speaker 2: they caught you at a bad time. But still you
Speaker 2: can't do that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and Noah Sfida, Jacob Manu iMac, I mean, you
Speaker 8: guys are the leaders.
Speaker 3: Come on, so let me ask you.
Speaker 2: I know, three games and Elastic the guys here inside,
Speaker 2: so everyone had them with eight wins, maybe nine wins.
Speaker 2: I can't remember what you told us at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the year. You're a pretty optimistic guy.
Speaker 8: It was uh it was nine wins.
Speaker 2: So so to what's your re evaluation? What's your reevaluation?
Speaker 7: I really I want.
Speaker 8: To see if they get everything in order, and then
Speaker 8: I want to see the Utah game, and then I'll
Speaker 8: make a final decision in regards to how many games.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair enough. You know they're gonna be very
Speaker 2: big underdogs in that one.
Speaker 7: I know, I know.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm glad they're not ranked. So that's that's good
Speaker 8: because if Arizona has a chip on the shoulder and
Speaker 8: it's un raked, well, I mean we were. Arizona was
Speaker 8: unranked last year. So before we win those semi semon games.
Speaker 8: How is Jay taking this?
Speaker 2: Well, he's just as frustrated as everybody else. Uh he's
Speaker 2: not in today. He's sick. Uh, but but we'll see.
Speaker 2: I'll see him tomorrow.
Speaker 3: And he was.
Speaker 2: We were texting back and forth and it was just
Speaker 2: just an uninspiring effort. I mean, just like they just
Speaker 2: you know, let's get to get on the plane and
Speaker 2: come back to Tucson in front of the national audience.
Speaker 2: That was another problem. Jay, Jay, thanks for calling, continue
Speaker 2: to listen.
Speaker 8: Thank you anytime. I always I'm always listening to your podcast.
Speaker 2: So you're down Arizona. Love you guys, Thank you Geving, Yeah,
Speaker 2: thank you, gab. Hey, you got a couple more minutes
Speaker 2: for another call or two. We're gonna try to either
Speaker 2: go through the hour, We're not going to stop at
Speaker 2: the four o'clock hour, and we're gonna see if we're
Speaker 2: getting more calls. I'm gonna talk to Lamont Huntley at
Speaker 2: four o'clock maybe a little after four. We've got a
Speaker 2: call coming in.
Speaker 7: No you do.
Speaker 3: Hey, you're on the air, Hide of the Ball.
Speaker 10: Hi, Steve, it's Jim.
Speaker 3: Jim.
Speaker 2: Hey, exactly. I thought about you Friday night. I said,
Speaker 2: exactly what you said could happen.
Speaker 10: Happened well, And I didn't want to bring it up
Speaker 10: at the time because it sounded like I was, you know,
Speaker 10: full of myself and and.
Speaker 9: Brow being a team.
Speaker 10: But you guys touched on it a few minutes ago.
Speaker 10: It's it's their team speed. Yeah, especially on defense, and
Speaker 10: that those two quarterbacks that you mentioned, they random ragged
Speaker 10: from sideline to sideline to sideline.
Speaker 2: And nobody ever laid a glove on them. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like you know, Jim I don't know if you know this.
Speaker 2: A few years back, Jim told me again before they
Speaker 2: played the Penn State, didn't tackle much before they prepared
Speaker 2: for the don't want anybody hurt. I think that's the
Speaker 2: case now where they didn't tackle much and now they're
Speaker 2: they're behind the eight ball because they didn't tackle much.
Speaker 10: Well, they did not tackle well. And but I really
Speaker 10: think you know you want you get in a running
Speaker 10: contest with a guy and he beats you a couple
Speaker 10: of times, what do you do? That's a natural athletic skill. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 10: and so you can scream and jump up and down
Speaker 10: and cheerlead all you want, but that guy's going to
Speaker 10: beat you down the field on the next play.
Speaker 2: Right if you don't have the way to stop it.
Speaker 2: Guess what you're not going to stop it?
Speaker 10: Well, and that would be having better foot speed across
Speaker 10: the board. That's my observation on what what the most
Speaker 10: fundamental basic problem is. I could be wrong still, but
Speaker 10: that's what I've seen the and the numbers bear it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think we asked you too that this
Speaker 2: could not happen. How on a scale one attend? How
Speaker 2: disheartened are you?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 10: I don't get that bent out of shape about.
Speaker 3: It either way. So yeah, okay, you're just an observer.
Speaker 10: Observer, Well, no, i'd like to see him when I'd
Speaker 10: like to see him do well. But you know, I
Speaker 10: don't invest myself, you know, very deeply. The thing that
Speaker 10: really comes to mind for me is, I've got an
Speaker 10: idea about bubble Steve, and I think you'll get this.
Speaker 10: What what's the difference between what's on the inside of
Speaker 10: a bubble and on the outside.
Speaker 11: Of a bubble?
Speaker 3: Air? More air? What is it?
Speaker 10: Well, reality is on the outside of the bubble. And
Speaker 10: every time we get ourselves locked into these little fought bubbles,
Speaker 10: this is what happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mean in terms of believing the hype and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, well we've I've you know,
Speaker 2: I've been accused of being the negative Nitton Dilly and
Speaker 2: I think you may be by you two, but it's
Speaker 2: realistic every time. In basketball too, if they're if they're
Speaker 2: highly ranked or they're highly thought of, that's when you
Speaker 2: have to be concerned. When they're not in their underdogs,
Speaker 2: they pay hard and they consider themselves be very good.
Speaker 3: And I've seen it. I've seen a thousand times they
Speaker 3: played out of their ba.
Speaker 10: In this case, gravity is still a thing and you're
Speaker 10: not going to escape it, and that's what dictates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, I know, you're exactly right. You're
Speaker 2: exactly right.
Speaker 10: The other thing that I bet you'll identify with is
Speaker 10: I bet there's a guy walking around in Albuquerque this
Speaker 10: week talking about how Devin Danpierre ran the ran, the
Speaker 10: Arizona Wildcats ragged and damn near beat him.
Speaker 9: Well, they'll talk.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you this because I saw this. I
Speaker 2: saw maybe it's a twitter a thing from Albuquerque, maybe
Speaker 2: on Sunday Saturday. How proud they were because they played
Speaker 2: really well for three games against some top notch competition
Speaker 2: and the game against Juve was one of theirs, one
Speaker 2: of their main points. Hey, look we played an FPS team. Uh,
Speaker 2: that's very good, and we are at the time they
Speaker 2: thought was very good and we played close and we
Speaker 2: should have a lot to hang our hand on.
Speaker 10: I'm thinking at this point and at this point that's
Speaker 10: almost meaningless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, Jim, Hey, we gotta go.
Speaker 2: We gotta get ahold of the money. Thanks for the call,
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Good, We're gonna We're gonna continue the conversation
Speaker 2: of his points. You like, oh, you didn't hear the
Speaker 2: points just about the team not being fast enough. They
Speaker 2: couldn't stop the quarter because they weren't fast enough. The
Speaker 2: corners were useless. Pretty much caught it aut it. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: because you see it all right, you've seen it for players.
Speaker 4: I know that some of the corners we have aren't
Speaker 4: what they're being projected to.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, because well I.
Speaker 4: Think one of them is projected to be a first
Speaker 4: round pick. Yeah yeah, I never saw that. I just
Speaker 4: you don't see it. I personally never.
Speaker 3: Well that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, here, you get this praise and it's high praise,
Speaker 2: and you start believing it, and then I'm gonna ask Lamont.
Speaker 2: I don't know how if he knows anything about this.
Speaker 2: I asked Jay this or somebody on Fridays maybe Saturday
Speaker 2: says so so nil. So if you're Matt, if you're
Speaker 2: gonna get paid, n I L Do you get paid
Speaker 2: before the season or after the season. So if you
Speaker 2: get before, this is not the real world. If your
Speaker 2: performance you are you get the money in your bucket?
Speaker 3: What do you have to do?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 3: Does that makes sense?
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, because if you you get paid at the end, okay,
Speaker 2: you deserve it, you work for it. So I don't
Speaker 2: know about that, and I'm not going to connect the
Speaker 2: two until i know more. But you understand where I'm
Speaker 2: going with it, right, It's like me paying you here,
Speaker 2: here's here's one hundred bucks. Have a good show. No,
Speaker 2: have a good shown, and then you get the money exactly.
Speaker 2: But that's not the case. I don't think the case. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you laugh because you know what I'm telling the truth.
Speaker 3: I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not gonna say I'm not going to correlate,
Speaker 2: but it was so disheartening. And then and then everyone
Speaker 2: kind of fights with Jed because he did what he
Speaker 2: did up there that has nothing to do.
Speaker 3: With Tucson exactly.
Speaker 2: That's like, you know, if you if you had a
Speaker 2: house that's a nice house in a cul de sac
Speaker 2: and your neighbor got a brand new car, or he
Speaker 2: wrecked his car and you're happy for the you're happy
Speaker 2: they erect his car. It doesn't make your house any better.
Speaker 2: Does you make your car running better? You have to
Speaker 2: worry about your situation.
Speaker 3: I don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 6: He might have to call ust because it's.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll let him know. That's fine, okay, Okay, what's
Speaker 2: going on? What are the guys? Victor texted me and
Speaker 2: said this your first show is like the Arizona game
Speaker 2: on Friday, and he's right, okay, let mean just text
Speaker 2: him real quick and get him on the show.
Speaker 3: Well, that's so bad. What's that? Okay? Maybe he'll call now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What other observations did you see? Who's special teams?
Speaker 6: Ah?
Speaker 4: He didn't even get on the field. Tyler Loop did
Speaker 4: not get on the field.
Speaker 3: What is that? What is That's how us?
Speaker 2: They're disorganized, right, they're not well coached. I'll stop there.
Speaker 3: There's just a lot of red flags in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, well that those two things and and penalties. Hello,
Speaker 2: you're on the airs is Lamont.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, we're ready to go with you this morning
Speaker 2: or this afternoon. Maybe that's why it's problems.
Speaker 3: How are you good?
Speaker 7: I'm good.
Speaker 3: About fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: What was your after watching after watching the game on Friday,
Speaker 2: what was your initial thought on what happened?
Speaker 7: Are you talking to me? Yes, I'm yeah, So like
Speaker 7: you were talking to somebody else.
Speaker 2: Just now no, no, I was, I was selling to the
Speaker 2: Guian studio.
Speaker 7: But now, okay, now do you okay, now are you guys?
Speaker 7: Are you on the area?
Speaker 3: Yes, we're on the years. But don't cuss.
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm not going to curse. I learned my lessons.
Speaker 7: Uh well, actually my initial thoughts when I was watching
Speaker 7: the game, I was, I was kind of like get
Speaker 7: shocked in regards to, you know, which team is out
Speaker 7: there playing.
Speaker 9: Against the Kansas State that Kansas State, Kansas State.
Speaker 7: I mean I was, I was only shock and maybe
Speaker 7: as far as who's really showing up at this point
Speaker 7: in time, because the chemistry between Nora and and t
Speaker 7: mac and and Hiss, I mean, it just wasn't even there.
Speaker 7: I mean, it just didn't seemed like it was the
Speaker 7: same team a couple of weeks ago. And I know
Speaker 7: the defense kind of improved themselves the second week against NAU,
Speaker 7: but I think the defense took a step back. Was
Speaker 7: also in regards to, you know, protecting the run and
Speaker 7: and and also trying to keep the quarterback in the pocket,
Speaker 7: and you know, and then uh, you know, there was
Speaker 7: times when the linebackers and defensive backs was you know
Speaker 7: making some you know, some foolish tackles and coverages and
Speaker 7: those tickles of nature. So I just think all in all,
Speaker 7: it was a I didn't you know, surprised to see
Speaker 7: who was out there, and maybe it was a you know,
Speaker 7: a different team underneath those helmets that wasn't our Wildcats.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I've said this a couple of times already since
Speaker 2: we got back on the air. The thing that this
Speaker 2: disappointed me in my observation right away was they didn't
Speaker 2: look like they had any interest in being there in
Speaker 2: the second half, at least, there was no emotion. There
Speaker 2: was no body language that was like when is the
Speaker 2: when is the plane leave? Because we want to get
Speaker 2: the hell out of here.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I honestly I don't want to. I
Speaker 7: don't want to put them in that situation, you know,
Speaker 7: because I mean, how how how do you become you know,
Speaker 7: shell shocked in regards to being that environment? I mean
Speaker 7: you you you you play you know Oklahoma and down
Speaker 7: at the Alamo Bow, So I mean, I mean those
Speaker 7: are teams that you know playing, but particularly you know,
Speaker 7: this particular Arizona football team. So you played a caliber
Speaker 7: team in Oklahoma. So you know what that's all about.
Speaker 7: And you played them very well. You played against them
Speaker 7: very very well, kick their butts and and whatnot. So
Speaker 7: I don't think that aspect of it. As far as
Speaker 7: you know, I don't I shouldn't be here, so to speak.
Speaker 7: I don't think I belong here. I shouldn't be here
Speaker 7: competing against them.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's not that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that they were just it was almost like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you got us twenty one to sell whatever, let's get
Speaker 2: the hell out of here.
Speaker 3: They were disinterested in the game.
Speaker 2: Not that they didn't believe you think they gave up
Speaker 2: in that case.
Speaker 7: So the second day they gave up. But you know
Speaker 7: that they again as far as the actual things that
Speaker 7: I did see out there in the presence when they
Speaker 7: scanned the sidelines, I mean, honestly, I mean I was
Speaker 7: disappointed in TMAC because I did see some you know,
Speaker 7: disbelief in him as far as being uninterested on the
Speaker 7: sideline at the time when they panned there and they
Speaker 7: you know, they showed his facial expressions on the sideline.
Speaker 7: You know that. To me personally, I said, what's up
Speaker 7: with this kid? I mean, really, what's going on with
Speaker 7: this kid? Why isn't this kid a little more emotional
Speaker 7: or a little more invested in the fact that they
Speaker 7: getting their butts kicked the way they're getting their butts kicked, right,
Speaker 7: you know, so any competitive person would would have that
Speaker 7: fire in their belly in regards to what was taking
Speaker 7: place that particular day. I did. I mean, I saw
Speaker 7: it in Noah. I mean, I think Norah was little
Speaker 7: rattle by it. But you know, personally, I can't say
Speaker 7: I seen any other particular person, but t Mac I
Speaker 7: did see that. I did see that disappointment in his
Speaker 7: expression on his face. I did see that, And and
Speaker 7: I think a lot of people may have seen that
Speaker 7: too in regards to how how he was reacting to
Speaker 7: sitting on the bench. And then there was time with
Speaker 7: why isn't he in the game? My question that too.
Speaker 7: I don't care. We I mean, we was, you know,
Speaker 7: getting down to the last two three minutes. If the
Speaker 7: rest of those guys in there, he should be in
Speaker 7: there with the rest of his team, his teammates and
Speaker 7: and John I just throw those catch in there to
Speaker 7: protect him. So maybe they protected him, because I don't know,
Speaker 7: is the kid still is he one hundred percent yet
Speaker 7: or not. I don't know.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you.
Speaker 2: I asked the guys in here in the in the
Speaker 2: room here, So do you know how this works?
Speaker 3: Okay? Ricky?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: You know? Ricky?
Speaker 2: Are you Lamar Honey? You're a senior. You're a senior
Speaker 2: at U of A. You striked up nil deal before
Speaker 2: the year, over the summer? And do you get paid
Speaker 2: before the season, during the season, or after the season.
Speaker 3: And bear with me.
Speaker 2: So if Lamon Honey gets paid fifty thousand dollars or
Speaker 2: whatever in August, what the hell does he have to
Speaker 2: show for it?
Speaker 3: I mean, you you already got paid?
Speaker 7: You agree? I agree?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 7: And and and and that's and that's what we that's
Speaker 7: probably what we're dealing with in the landscape of all
Speaker 7: college football. It's the fact that, I mean, you're dealing
Speaker 7: with the fact that you're giving these kids all of
Speaker 7: this money that they don't have to work for, right,
Speaker 7: I mean, why do I have to go out there
Speaker 7: produce a show, Toself? And you know, And I'm not
Speaker 7: and and and lord knows, I'm not saying that Tmax
Speaker 7: this way, and I pray that he isn't. But this
Speaker 7: guy gonna be playing on Sunday. You know. So the
Speaker 7: fifty thousand dollars that that or whatever that you know,
Speaker 7: round about number that we talked about that he got
Speaker 7: for his INNL deal, I mean, that's peanuts compared to
Speaker 7: what this guy gonna get on Sunday. Sure, you know.
Speaker 7: And honestly, I don't think, you know, if he gets
Speaker 7: out there produced or not produced, I don't think he's
Speaker 7: really gonna hurt his draft position. I mean, I think
Speaker 7: he already places his draft position where he's going to be.
Speaker 7: And and then once the season is over, all he
Speaker 7: got to do is just go to the combines and
Speaker 7: and and get in front of some teams and show
Speaker 7: his capabilities, and you know, his draft position might even
Speaker 7: go up higher.
Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not singling him out directly. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying you any student, any student who gets paid
Speaker 2: X amount of money, uh, just not how the world works.
Speaker 2: I mean, you have you you don't pay your employees
Speaker 2: before they show up, not at all.
Speaker 7: They get paid once they once they do their work
Speaker 7: and and whatnot. And and again maybe they they got
Speaker 7: something in place where you know, the kids may be
Speaker 7: getting the money at a certain time instead of the
Speaker 7: money up front. You know, if if, if, if, if
Speaker 7: I had any choice on it to where I can
Speaker 7: make that decision on how the money gonna be divet out.
Speaker 7: It will be given out on a weekly basis, or
Speaker 7: maybe a quarterly basis or whatever we come up with
Speaker 7: a monthly basis. I mean, if it's the true nim well,
Speaker 7: if it's the nil money that they establish for these
Speaker 7: kids to get X amount dollars a month, I mean,
Speaker 7: you know through throughout the semester, I would give that
Speaker 7: out accordingly of how you plan how you play each week.
Speaker 7: You know, because you could. I mean you get that.
Speaker 7: You can have kids out there to say I got mine? Yeah,
Speaker 7: why don't need God here working the harder for so.
Speaker 3: You don't have to tell me who you watch the
Speaker 3: game with.
Speaker 2: You probably did at home with your with your family,
Speaker 2: but uh, you do know people, you know, how your
Speaker 2: friends who form players, how how disheartened were they from
Speaker 2: the game?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I mean we did have some I
Speaker 7: did have quite a few people that I didn't go
Speaker 7: to game, I didn't watch the game with, but we
Speaker 7: we text among each other and regards to what we
Speaker 7: was watching and and a lot of this stuff was, Man,
Speaker 7: are we really watching this same football team that was
Speaker 7: there a week or two weeks ago? Are we are
Speaker 7: we watching the same football team from last year? I mean,
Speaker 7: are we really watching the same football team? You know,
Speaker 7: it's basically, you know, coach by coach Brennan and got
Speaker 7: this new defensive coordinator and putting things in place. I mean,
Speaker 7: those questions did come come to to text amongst one another,
Speaker 7: and and all of us was basically in shock in
Speaker 7: regards to what was taking place, and and and then
Speaker 7: a lot of the things that was that was that
Speaker 7: was put out there. It was again, what team is
Speaker 7: out here on this football football field? And why are
Speaker 7: they playing the way they play? You know, you know
Speaker 7: some people are talking just generalize. I think people are
Speaker 7: saying on the news or the papers and social media
Speaker 7: in regards to particularly the defense. They're talking is it
Speaker 7: the scheme or is it the coaching staff? I mean,
Speaker 7: you can have any scheme you want. If you ain't
Speaker 7: got the right players to put that scheme together, then
Speaker 7: you know we're in trouble. And I think our situation is,
Speaker 7: especially upfront, we don't have the right bodies. I mean,
Speaker 7: we don't have bodies that can produce upfront to allow
Speaker 7: the best part of our defense to showcase themselves, and
Speaker 7: that's the defensive backs in our linebacker. So now it
Speaker 7: looks like our whole defense is a suspect because our
Speaker 7: upfront unit they just not to par against, not even
Speaker 7: in New Mexico to nau now.
Speaker 9: Kansas, Kansas State and getting into.
Speaker 7: This big ten, it's gonna get worse. So I think
Speaker 7: that right there, Ana, lies our problem is that we
Speaker 7: just don't have the right players. And it's not the
Speaker 7: system or the scheme or that people would say what
Speaker 7: Dwayne is putting in front of us, it's the actual players.
Speaker 2: Well, I hate to say this because web Waldroup and
Speaker 2: some of those guys aren't walking through the doors there
Speaker 2: to help you exactly.
Speaker 7: And that's going to be I mean, that's gonna be
Speaker 7: a long, long year because of the fact you're right,
Speaker 7: and you can't find nobody and you can't make these kids,
Speaker 7: you know, playing. You know, the kids got to have
Speaker 7: it within themselves as far as want to produce, you know,
Speaker 7: up front, you know, they have to have it within themselves,
Speaker 7: and they gotta want to do it, and they gotta,
Speaker 7: you know, want to be and you know, be be
Speaker 7: be coached right, you know, and coached up simplely and
Speaker 7: you know, and all the all the fun things and
Speaker 7: make the game fun again. But again, if they don't
Speaker 7: want to do it, and you know, maybe it goes
Speaker 7: back to the questions you just said earlier. She they
Speaker 7: already got paid, why they got to go out there
Speaker 7: and produce themselves?
Speaker 3: Let me, you know, let me ask you one more
Speaker 3: question before before you go.
Speaker 2: I know we won't probably talk to you before the
Speaker 2: Utah game, but what are you hoping to see?
Speaker 3: And guess what? They're going to be underdogs by fifteen
Speaker 3: seventeen whatever it is. Yeah, what do you hope to
Speaker 3: see in the next game?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I mean I hope to see defensively
Speaker 7: first and foremost I want to see and I hope
Speaker 7: to see more aggressiveness and more control type of a
Speaker 7: football player out there. Okay, I think our football, our
Speaker 7: team up front there, they are totally undisciplined when it
Speaker 7: comes to their eyes. Okay, they're seeing something that they
Speaker 7: don't they don't supposed to be seeing, you know. Instead
Speaker 7: of keeping their eyes disciplined in the area they supposed
Speaker 7: to be, they let the eyes wander and it gets
Speaker 7: them in trouble, you know. So we need to have.
Speaker 9: These defensive linemen and upfront, I mean.
Speaker 7: Since the whole up front seven just be more disciplined
Speaker 7: with their eyeballs. I mean, there's time that you can
Speaker 7: place yourself in a good position and fall over and
Speaker 7: make a tackle, you know, as long as you're in
Speaker 7: the right position and doing what they call the gap
Speaker 7: control type of a defense. If we do those things,
Speaker 7: then we'll.
Speaker 9: We'll probably see a more progressive.
Speaker 7: Defense at that point in time. Offensively, they gotta have
Speaker 7: fun again, I mean, get out there and start having fun,
Speaker 7: right you know. I mean, and just run around and
Speaker 7: and and and be those kids that they were last year.
Speaker 7: You know, don't put this extra pressure if you have
Speaker 7: it on your back, remove yourself from that. I mean,
Speaker 7: Nor got to be the be the leader that he is,
Speaker 7: and I know, the kids a leader, I mean, the
Speaker 7: kids a leader, and people going to follow this kid.
Speaker 7: So now he has to stand up in the middle
Speaker 7: of that room, you know, and get these kids back
Speaker 7: at it again and start having fun with the game
Speaker 7: of football, you know. And because right now we're not
Speaker 7: having fun with it, and it starting the same thing there.
Speaker 7: It starts up front with that deep offensive line. Those kids.
Speaker 7: He has to look them in the eyes and let
Speaker 7: those let the offensive line know that I need more
Speaker 7: from you. I mean, I need more from you. I
Speaker 7: can't keep running around and or running for my life
Speaker 7: because the fact that you know, you missing up on
Speaker 7: the on the scheme block here or there. So he
Speaker 7: has to take make those guys accountable for their job.
Speaker 7: And that's what a true leader does. And I think
Speaker 7: the rest of those guys they're gonna come in to play.
Speaker 7: The skilled players and wide receivers and the running backs
Speaker 7: they gonna come into the play because I mean, I
Speaker 7: think I think the running back is probably the best
Speaker 7: thing on our offense right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, will Lama, honey, thank you for joining me. We'll
Speaker 2: talk to you soon, you soon.
Speaker 7: We're good. Did you pay your bill? That's why, that's
Speaker 7: why they kicked you off.
Speaker 3: Something's going on here. I have no idea what's going on.
Speaker 7: You didn't know that if you don't pay.
Speaker 9: Your bill to cut your electricity off in.
Speaker 3: Your phone off, it's not the electricity, just as Arizona's
Speaker 3: offense did last Friday. That's not good, all right? Thank
Speaker 3: you man?
Speaker 2: Thank you man does Lama Honey will take the breakdown?
Speaker 2: Can you go to the break and then come back
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to Whying the Ball here Fox Sports Sports.
Speaker 7: I'm Steve Rivera.
Speaker 2: James out today He's got him really well, got got Henry.
Speaker 3: And Matt Now what you got met? But I don't
Speaker 3: know if I'm going dot.
Speaker 7: Tom put that musical General.
Speaker 3: Matt, that was all for you.
Speaker 20: Nice a great entrance.
Speaker 7: I like it.
Speaker 2: We brought off the drums for you. So what were
Speaker 2: your options? Did you want your Game of Priday?
Speaker 21: You had to parts of it, so I was watching
Speaker 21: actually one of Arizona's commits play at play at the
Speaker 21: same time, so I got to see parts of it
Speaker 21: most of the first half, kind of the.
Speaker 20: Portion Arizona still in the game.
Speaker 7: Second half.
Speaker 21: I kind of was spotty here.
Speaker 20: And there, kind of checking in between players.
Speaker 21: But got to get a good feel for what went on, and.
Speaker 20: Obviously not a lot of great things for Arizona and
Speaker 20: that game.
Speaker 2: What does this do for the perception of the program
Speaker 2: and maybe the team, or does it at all?
Speaker 3: I might overthinking it.
Speaker 20: You're overthinking it.
Speaker 6: It does nothing.
Speaker 20: If you're talking about recruits, it doesn't really do a
Speaker 20: whole lot.
Speaker 21: I mean, it's again, I think fans have this thing
Speaker 21: where they look at games through their own lens, and
Speaker 21: they look at it different than a lot of recruits
Speaker 21: and recruits, but just don't view things the same. Negative
Speaker 21: games don't impact things as much as positive games.
Speaker 20: In recruiting, So.
Speaker 21: If people think that because there wasnt a loss of
Speaker 21: tame to stay and it didn't look good, that suddenly
Speaker 21: they're going to lose all the recruits.
Speaker 20: This is not going to happen. It's not how it works.
Speaker 21: There's too much involved, there's too many things that are
Speaker 21: in play, especially when you're talking about and IL now,
Speaker 21: it just doesn't work that way. So in overaction, I
Speaker 21: think if you're talking about recruiting now, if you're just
Speaker 21: a fan, I think you have some valid complaints. I
Speaker 21: think there's some things that should be concerning. But yeah,
Speaker 21: it wasn't great. It wasn't a great look. I don't
Speaker 21: think it's a positive thing by any means, but it's
Speaker 21: definitely not you know, the end of the world that
Speaker 21: you're talking about recruiting and building the type program they want.
Speaker 2: To build, but is near the end of the world.
Speaker 2: Look closer to the end of the world when you have, uh,
Speaker 2: when you have a performance like that, you're only three
Speaker 2: games in and and and every game looks bad and
Speaker 2: this one just look worse.
Speaker 6: Correct.
Speaker 21: I think that if you look at the overall you
Speaker 21: know picture, it's not great. I mean, the trend it
Speaker 21: was kind of ability to this. You know, the New
Speaker 21: Mexico game had its kind of issues and then they
Speaker 21: finally were able to kind of pull that out and
Speaker 21: you know, lean on their their star player and you know,
Speaker 21: able to kind of get that win. And then it
Speaker 21: didn't look good against ANAU and they're able to escape
Speaker 21: with that one. You go, well, I think my thought
Speaker 21: was the offense needs to prove it to me, because
Speaker 21: that's been the issue. You have to defent have some problems,
Speaker 21: and that showed up, you know against Kansas State. But
Speaker 21: to me, it's been the offense and you have to
Speaker 21: find some other weapons, some other way to get points
Speaker 21: on the board other than tetroumcvillain, and so they haven't
Speaker 21: been able to do that. The offensive play car and
Speaker 21: has looked you know, a little uh, you know, not
Speaker 21: ingenious in a lot of ways and kind of not creative.
Speaker 20: And you know, that's it's an issue. And I think
Speaker 20: that you now have seen it three weeks in a row,
Speaker 20: that's the problem.
Speaker 21: That's the full fledged kind of problem at this point,
Speaker 21: because it's not just a fluke. It's not something that
Speaker 21: you know, they're still just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 21: I think by week three you need to need to
Speaker 21: have figured it out, and if you didn't, you know,
Speaker 21: going into the top twenty matchup, Uh, you know, that's
Speaker 21: the problem.
Speaker 20: And so they have some things that they need to
Speaker 20: work on.
Speaker 21: Obviously they're heading into this bye week and have some
Speaker 21: extra time to figure things out. But I'm not sold
Speaker 21: that everything that's going wrong with this team right now
Speaker 21: is things that can be fixed in a week or two.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know, so, Matt, let me ask you. You talked
Speaker 2: about Matt Modero talked about the offense. What are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on the offense or just to play calls? No, no,
Speaker 2: not you, Matt, now, you man, My MAT's in off
Speaker 2: in here, so hold.
Speaker 20: On, got you.
Speaker 4: I wasn't upset at it. I think the old line
Speaker 4: could have played a little better. The run game wasn't there,
Speaker 4: So the runs game is not there automatically away from
Speaker 4: the passing game. But yeah, it just I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's just was it much same in that last game?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're talking this is not an easy solution,
Speaker 2: right right, Matt?
Speaker 7: What I know?
Speaker 20: I don't think so.
Speaker 21: I mean I think that your game plan and you
Speaker 21: you devise your schemes and your systems and everything and
Speaker 21: what you want to do.
Speaker 20: Over the course of the entire year.
Speaker 21: You know, they're you know, Gal Babers and uh, you know,
Speaker 21: Guanna Quina and those guys in charge of their units
Speaker 21: have been working on Okay, this is what we want
Speaker 21: to do.
Speaker 20: When we get to the ball.
Speaker 21: You're putting, you know, eight months of work into that,
Speaker 21: and so it's not going to flip overnight. You're not
Speaker 21: going to be able to As smart as all these
Speaker 21: coaches are, it's really difficult to be like, all right,
Speaker 21: we're gonna have to do something different. And I think
Speaker 21: but that's kind of where they're at, where they need
Speaker 21: to try something else because it feels like they've tried
Speaker 21: the same things over and over again and it just
Speaker 21: hasn't worked. And so whether that's it could just be
Speaker 21: as simple as somebody else stepping up and somebody you
Speaker 21: know emerging and being like, you know, hey, I'm tired
Speaker 21: of this. I'm going to be the one to step
Speaker 21: up in terms of a player, But it really feels
Speaker 21: like it's it's system related and decision related and those
Speaker 21: you know, those things follow in the coaching staff, and
Speaker 21: so I think it's one of those things where the
Speaker 21: staff kind of has to reflect on itself figure out,
Speaker 21: you know what where where are the issues right now?
Speaker 21: And they feel pretty clear. And there's some personnel related
Speaker 21: things that I think as well that it's going to be.
Speaker 21: That's maybe something you learned in the buyble because you
Speaker 21: try some different guys because personnel wise, you know, there's
Speaker 21: not a whole lot you can You can't go get
Speaker 21: a bunch of new guys right now.
Speaker 20: It's not the NFL.
Speaker 21: Yeah, so you know you can't go get a bunch
Speaker 21: of you guys right now. So you maybe try some
Speaker 21: different pieces, try some different combinations. But I think the
Speaker 21: one thing you can do with Arizona is just see
Speaker 21: where you're at and and kind of stand idle. You know,
Speaker 21: you have to be able to, you know, pick apart
Speaker 21: what you did wrong in that game to state game
Speaker 21: and then figure out what the solutions are and come
Speaker 21: extra time to do that. But I think you can't,
Speaker 21: you know, just kind of stand pat You have to
Speaker 21: figure out what you're doing. I know there's been you know,
Speaker 21: an array of conversation about where things went wrong with
Speaker 21: they need to do, but you know this coachestoft leadings
Speaker 21: that I think figure out what what is the actual
Speaker 21: issue right now and try and address that because the
Speaker 21: scheduling continue to get harder, right right.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: as we evaluate this stuff, we thought that go to
Speaker 2: and two right within the first two, possibly maybe pull
Speaker 2: one off in the next two, but it doesn't look likely.
Speaker 2: So you're two and two with the with the schedule
Speaker 2: kind of favorable to Arizona at least what we thought
Speaker 2: going in. I still think there's a chance to win
Speaker 2: some games the Texas texts, some of the other ones,
Speaker 2: obviously the West Virginia's uh and others. So there's still hope.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: They just got to, like you say, kind of get
Speaker 2: better at some of the things they're doing.
Speaker 3: And what do you see? What do you see in
Speaker 3: the the TMAC Noah combination.
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean I think it's so strong that it's
Speaker 21: it's difficult. I don't blame for not I know you
Speaker 21: did a little bit better, but for not spreading the
Speaker 21: ball around more. I know that was the conversation after
Speaker 21: the first game, like, well, you sed to you know,
Speaker 21: find different receivers, but man, if you have Tetron McMillan,
Speaker 21: if you have t MAC out there, and you've built
Speaker 21: this relationship with them over years. It's hard to not
Speaker 21: look there and you know he can go make those plays.
Speaker 21: I think you're confident, you know, if you're no computa,
Speaker 21: Hey he can make that play.
Speaker 20: I can just throw the ball up there and he
Speaker 20: can go make that play.
Speaker 21: And so but you have to they're just it's almost
Speaker 21: to the point where they're going to have to for
Speaker 21: seed you know, certain actions and certain things within the
Speaker 21: game where they're gonna have to be like, no, you
Speaker 21: have to you cannot throw that ball there. It has
Speaker 21: to go somewhere else, because they're going to have to
Speaker 21: find a way to almost manufacture different ways of gaining ground,
Speaker 21: in gaining yards because I know you guys just mentioned that,
Speaker 21: you know, the running game that just hasn't been up
Speaker 21: to par uh, you know, it wasn't up to part.
Speaker 20: In the game to state game. You know, they're missing
Speaker 20: obviously missing Bill there. But you have enough to do some.
Speaker 21: Things on the ground, and so the ground game, you know,
Speaker 21: one one has to compliment the other. If they're able
Speaker 21: to really be strong on the ground, it's going to.
Speaker 20: Open up the passing game for some of these other players.
Speaker 21: But this also, to me, is kind of a byproduct
Speaker 21: of building a team through the portal. You just never know,
Speaker 21: You never know what it's going to look like. You
Speaker 21: have to make decisions really quick when you're talking about
Speaker 21: portal players. You don't have a ton of time to
Speaker 21: evaluate everything they've done. You just kind of watch the
Speaker 21: state and go, okay, there, I like them, I don't
Speaker 21: like them. And so I think it's one of those
Speaker 21: things that you just this is why it's so difficult
Speaker 21: to really project what a team is going to look
Speaker 21: like based on who they signed in the portal, because
Speaker 21: you just don't know how it's all gonna match together,
Speaker 21: how it's all gonna work together, whether they the guy
Speaker 21: they think they got is truly that guy and is
Speaker 21: he gonna be able to translate to their system? And
Speaker 21: so I think Arizona's going through that a little bit.
Speaker 21: I think some guys that they picked up in the
Speaker 21: portal they thought that they thought would be better just
Speaker 21: having performed up to that level, and you know, you're
Speaker 21: kind of figuring that out right now, can they be
Speaker 21: the guys they thought, you know, they picked up?
Speaker 20: And maybe that's still a possibility. I think it's still
Speaker 20: early enough. For those guts to develop.
Speaker 21: But yeah, it's been really interesting, and I think it's
Speaker 21: really about just for No fpeat, it's about I need
Speaker 21: to really understand every part of this offense, figure it out,
Speaker 21: and do my best to spread the ball around because
Speaker 21: that's only going to help you know, team back there
Speaker 21: eventually teams.
Speaker 20: And teams already starting to do it.
Speaker 21: Just zero in on him because if you take him
Speaker 21: out of the equation, nobody else can beat you right now.
Speaker 21: And so that's that's kind of where Arizona is at,
Speaker 21: and that's kind of the worst spot to be in
Speaker 21: because again, it makes you one dimensional. It makes the
Speaker 21: game time pretty simple. I think even defensively right now,
Speaker 21: if you're you know, Arizona, if you're an opposing team
Speaker 21: and you're looking at what Avery Johnson did, it's like, hey,
Speaker 21: I'm just gonna attack him with the running game.
Speaker 20: And you know, Davon Dampier did the same thing.
Speaker 21: A running quarterback is it really feels like that's their
Speaker 21: kind of buggably right now, and then that's kind of
Speaker 21: their issue, is like can you stop a running quarterback
Speaker 21: and it and maybe not every team has that, but
Speaker 21: they're going to utilize that element if they know that's
Speaker 21: the way.
Speaker 20: To be there and down it.
Speaker 2: So I was gonna ask you, So it's fite too
Speaker 2: much to ask that the offense kind of pulls this
Speaker 2: team together, because you know, you covered, you were here
Speaker 2: in rich Rod's time for the offense kind of had
Speaker 2: the outscore opponents to win.
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean it's I still think there's something there
Speaker 21: at the offense.
Speaker 7: I think that.
Speaker 21: Overall it's probably closer to what it was in the
Speaker 21: Mexico game. But again, that's very one dimensional and that
Speaker 21: was one guy having a career day, and so I
Speaker 21: still think there's some good elements to this offense. It's
Speaker 21: just about figuring out how to make it all kind
Speaker 21: of work together. And I think that's the difficulty when
Speaker 21: you bring some pieces together. I mean, THEO Babers and
Speaker 21: Brent Brandon didn't work together, you know, last season and
Speaker 21: in previous years. So I think there's probably some of
Speaker 21: that too, where everyone's kind of adjusting and trying to
Speaker 21: get on the same page and trying.
Speaker 20: To figure things out, and so it is going to
Speaker 20: take some time.
Speaker 21: I do think there is some talent to make sure
Speaker 21: that the offense can be more productive, but right now
Speaker 21: that's that's where the issue is. I mean, they have
Speaker 21: to be able to score points. You can't score one
Speaker 21: touchdown in a game against the quality opponent. You're not
Speaker 21: playing any of U in the Mextro aren't on the
Speaker 21: schedule anymore.
Speaker 20: I mean, you're gonna play.
Speaker 21: Some teams that are going to be better and have
Speaker 21: more talent. And so I know, you mentioned you know,
Speaker 21: the schedule does get a little bit easier you go
Speaker 21: deeper into the season, but you know, you get Yukon
Speaker 21: next and then you know there is still talent in
Speaker 21: the rest of the Big twelve, and so you know,
Speaker 21: I think it's going to have to be again this
Speaker 21: this staff trying to figure out, okay, what works, what
Speaker 21: pieces work, and this five week is important. I mean,
Speaker 21: they have to look better against Utah. I mean that's
Speaker 21: just a challenge in itself, going out to Utah and
Speaker 21: trying to beat them. But you know, as the season,
Speaker 21: as the second half of the season plays out, or
Speaker 21: you know, the games.
Speaker 20: After that, you know, you just have to be better.
Speaker 21: You have to have better showings, you have to win
Speaker 21: some games, you have to start stacking some wins, and
Speaker 21: so you know it's going to be a really interesting
Speaker 21: thing to see what they look like when they come
Speaker 21: out against Utah and then especially Texas Tech when they
Speaker 21: should have their footing, because if it doesn't look good
Speaker 21: in the next couple of games, it could be a
Speaker 21: long season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, So we'll see. Well, we run out
Speaker 2: of time. Thank you, Matt. We'll come back to you
Speaker 2: soon down the road. Thank you man.
Speaker 20: Right, yeah, anytime.
Speaker 3: See, thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a break, come back and talk more
Speaker 2: about this football team and see what happens.
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Speaker 7: Today's not doing well?
Speaker 3: Spot to day out? He tell you want to too much?
Speaker 3: Is up Friday in the game I have.
Speaker 2: I've got Henry here, we're running the board and Matt
Speaker 2: you guy here helping me out. Tough, tough game. More
Speaker 2: what are what are other concerns? I know you didn't
Speaker 2: hear lamont or or Moreno, but let me ask you,
Speaker 2: and I asked moreno, the same question. Uh, is it
Speaker 2: too much to ask for the offense to outscore teams?
Speaker 3: No, as long as we have t MAC and know
Speaker 3: what on the field, I don't think it's you think that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it didn't happen. I know your looks still tell
Speaker 3: me on the regular tell now.
Speaker 4: But on a serious note, I think the major concern
Speaker 4: to me was the running.
Speaker 3: Game and and and it's not there. It's not well,
Speaker 3: is it?
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 3: J c M? It's j c M? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 6: And he's not.
Speaker 3: I was just going to tell you that.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say that there was no
Speaker 2: update information today, but at the very you know, he's not.
Speaker 3: Going to come back.
Speaker 5: I think the issue is less about the actual running play.
Speaker 5: It's more the design. They're taking so long to get started.
Speaker 2: That that was asked to in the handoffs and.
Speaker 5: The handles are so slow. The d lines are able
Speaker 5: to get in the backfield already. So that's the old
Speaker 5: line too, then yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if the old lines an issue, and when
Speaker 2: you that was gonna happen going in and Lamont says
Speaker 2: the defensive line or issues were games won in the
Speaker 2: front in the front and the back and that's not
Speaker 2: a good sign, not at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Did you do you notice that stuff? You obviously I've
Speaker 2: seen it, right, Yeah, the old lines.
Speaker 5: This year they're running with fullbacks a lot more than
Speaker 5: they did previously. I don't think last year they ever
Speaker 5: used fullbacks. This year they've used fullbacks a lot, which
Speaker 5: it works, does some work sometimes.
Speaker 4: But right, And it doesn't make sense to me because
Speaker 4: they have a lot of talented running backs like Speedy Loop.
Speaker 4: I don't know why he's not on the field, but
Speaker 4: he's not getting any playing tom It's just I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: They got to figure it out. But it's gonna be
Speaker 3: tough this year. What was you guys were on campus today?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, how was the feeling or it didn't really matter?
Speaker 3: Yeah you didn't feel yeah? No, And you guys are
Speaker 3: going you guys go to the games too, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: So it's going to be different. I think the next
Speaker 3: home game, right.
Speaker 5: I think if they beat Utah it will be it
Speaker 5: won't be different. If they lose the Utah then it
Speaker 5: will definitely be different.
Speaker 3: Right. What do you think is what happens? Is cam
Speaker 3: riising play?
Speaker 5: We don't know, Yeah, we don't know it will depend
Speaker 5: on if he plays because he didn't play last year
Speaker 5: and destroyed him.
Speaker 3: But right, Yeah, but this is kind of different.
Speaker 6: A different team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you guys watched both last year. What do
Speaker 2: you what do you think the vibe is? It's totally different.
Speaker 4: I think we had a lot of expectations coming into
Speaker 4: this season, especially after beating Oklahoma in that bowl game.
Speaker 5: So you know that hurts. Yeah, the expectations. I just
Speaker 5: think we're way too high considering what this team lost.
Speaker 5: I mean, they lost their head coach. It changes a
Speaker 5: lot of guys to the NFL. We should have seen.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think a lot of people did see
Speaker 5: that there's gonna be some regression, and we're starting to
Speaker 5: see that.
Speaker 2: The realistic people, I don't think there's that exists, even
Speaker 2: though I kind of bought into the Okay, and you
Speaker 2: guys you played. You played at a pretty high level
Speaker 2: in California.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The one thing I've learned in this position for thirty
Speaker 2: some years covering it and writing about it is coaching matters.
Speaker 2: Coaching matters. You could have the same talent with a
Speaker 2: different coach a better team, and it's a better team.
Speaker 2: And not to say Brenton Brennan is the guy, or
Speaker 2: not the guy because it's too early. But he's different
Speaker 2: than Jed on the field, you can see it the
Speaker 2: on the no personalities type of things. And his coaches too.
Speaker 2: Because you were a running back, you said, and you're
Speaker 2: running boat, your head coach is your head coach, right,
Speaker 2: so you listen to him and you're running back to
Speaker 2: coach is different than your head coach, but you still
Speaker 2: have to pay attention.
Speaker 3: Exactly know what I'm saying. And I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's happening.
Speaker 2: Not that they're not paying attention, it's getting getting not
Speaker 2: getting involved.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say it feels less involved. Jed
Speaker 5: called the plays last year and this year Brennan doesn't
Speaker 5: call it play.
Speaker 3: Doesn't call a player, and it's and they're not. They're
Speaker 3: not dynamic plays. You know, we have some dynamic players
Speaker 3: and you have something players.
Speaker 2: Right, you're asking for a nice food at a restaurant
Speaker 2: and you're not getting the food that you're asking.
Speaker 3: It's not tasting the same, right, right. I don't know.
Speaker 2: To me, it was just like I said at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the show, it's just and I'm not a fan.
Speaker 3: You know people know who listen to this. I'm not
Speaker 3: a fan. It's just disheartening for or to see the indifference,
Speaker 3: like it's like, let's just get get out of here. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you guess your fans. You guys are fans, right, definitely.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm a fan and Henry and you're seeing it too, right.
Speaker 2: I don't want to kind of go back to the
Speaker 2: same subject, but you're seeing that they're okay whatever, and
Speaker 2: that's what brought up the ail thing.
Speaker 3: Matt.
Speaker 4: Listen, I know some Walkons that are making fifty K.
Speaker 4: You're here, no no, no, no, general in other places. So
Speaker 4: if Walkhon's making fifty k, right, just imagine what scholarship
Speaker 4: players are making.
Speaker 3: Oh sure yeah.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if if I'm a player and
Speaker 4: I'm getting paid and I'm still not getting playing time,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking personally, when one am I getting here?
Speaker 3: Right? Once I got my money? You know, right, no question.
Speaker 2: The funny thing about it is if you're walking on
Speaker 2: somewhere else, then I've heard that.
Speaker 3: But then you know those people.
Speaker 2: You go somewhere let's say X high seated school, and
Speaker 2: you're not playing, but you're getting fifty You're not gonna
Speaker 2: get fifty at a lower school, not at all, but
Speaker 2: you'll play, but you'll play. So so what's what's again?
Speaker 4: If I'm a player and I'm not getting playing time
Speaker 4: that I was promised, I'm, like you said, I'm on
Speaker 4: the sideline doing whatever I want, you know, on my
Speaker 4: own world.
Speaker 3: And yeah, are you gonna get the heck out of there? Yeah,
Speaker 3: even though you get the money, Are you getting the money? No,
Speaker 3: you definitely get the money. Yeah, you gotta get the money. No, no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 2: So you're you're you're at big U, right, you're big
Speaker 2: at you but you're a walk on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're getting X amount of money. Now you
Speaker 3: still get the stipe in every every month. No no, no, no, no, okay,
Speaker 3: So you get the stipen, you get the fifty thousand,
Speaker 3: like you said, you said, hey, but you're not playing,
Speaker 3: You're a fourth string running back whatever. I'm want to
Speaker 3: go to a lower school and play, but not.
Speaker 2: Likely to get that that money because that school doesn't
Speaker 2: have the money the big school task, right, So what's
Speaker 2: your decision?
Speaker 4: I mean, you're looking at your future here. Do you
Speaker 4: want to sit and get the bare minimum? More plan?
Speaker 4: See what your value is once you put up the stats.
Speaker 4: So I don't know me personally, I'll leave and go
Speaker 4: to the small.
Speaker 3: Maybe without getting that money. Get in the bag.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, it makes sense, makes sense, it makes sense.
Speaker 2: But are you a freshman or are you a freshman
Speaker 2: sophomore junior? I think being a no, no, no, no, just
Speaker 2: that situation. Yeah, So if you're a freshman, do you
Speaker 2: stick it out? If you're a freshman, you get to
Speaker 2: step in. Because if you're a senior junior, then maybe, okay,
Speaker 2: you gotta look at your career how it's been, if
Speaker 2: you haven't had any stats and anything. But also if
Speaker 2: you're you're a halfway decent player, you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 2: kind of maybe stick it out because those guys leave
Speaker 2: and then.
Speaker 4: You move up the right. It all depends. It all depends.
Speaker 4: But again, if there's.
Speaker 2: You gotta you just gotta understand the situation is different situations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, are you gonna give up fifty thousand?
Speaker 4: Just I'm listen, I'm just imagining what you see the outcastler.
Speaker 3: Driver, right, No, no, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that goes to my point, I'm driving
Speaker 2: this right, They ain't take it away from me, I think,
Speaker 2: and the tackling. You know what I'm saying, it's just
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's given before, it's earned, So given before, it's
Speaker 3: exactly And then we talked about that earlier. And you
Speaker 3: see it. You can see I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: You can see the problems that it could present. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying there's problems now, but you know it's not
Speaker 2: how the world is.
Speaker 3: Definitely, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we'll see. Anybody want to call in. We have
Speaker 2: a few minutes. We get about ten minutes, eight eight,
Speaker 2: eight minutes. Yeah, give us a quick call. Get us
Speaker 2: through this. Five two oh four one six seventy four forty.
Speaker 2: I think we got it under control, not me, Henry,
Speaker 2: it's got it under control. Yeah, yeah, So give us
Speaker 2: a call. What's your thoughts, what are your thoughts? On
Speaker 2: the end, I'll talk that we just had. You know,
Speaker 2: you don't have the one thing that I think that's
Speaker 2: gonna happen. I didn't talk to Leman about it. So
Speaker 2: you play this this you lay an egg in this
Speaker 2: last weekend. If you lay an egg against Utah and
Speaker 2: you don't do well, this year as a team and
Speaker 2: you and you're a you're a guy who's given this
Speaker 2: fifty thousand or are you giving this?
Speaker 3: You gonna want to do it again? Probably not?
Speaker 5: Guess guess what drives up? Did you dry up? And
Speaker 5: then what I think? Uh, there were like boosters at
Speaker 5: the game too, Oh.
Speaker 3: It was this was the booster.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: They stayed there a couple more days after after the
Speaker 2: team left, you know, took in the sights of Manhattan,
Speaker 2: I guess. But but they went and they got to
Speaker 2: see stuff firsthand.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the game.
Speaker 2: You want to kind of impress everybody, right exactly because
Speaker 2: the purse strings in the wall, it's open up, and
Speaker 2: you know, I don't have the money to give, so
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter for me, but for the people that
Speaker 2: do you those are the people you're asking exactly.
Speaker 5: But I will say I think if you're a booster,
Speaker 5: you're a booster because you love you that you love
Speaker 5: the school.
Speaker 6: Question not going to go away.
Speaker 5: No question was if the team does trend down, that's
Speaker 5: not going to be promising.
Speaker 3: For the year.
Speaker 2: And we talk about this maybe a year or two
Speaker 2: before the nil. They love the school, so they support
Speaker 2: the school. Not the player exactly. Yeah, so oh you're
Speaker 2: giving it to the player. No, no, no, I wanted
Speaker 2: to go to the athletic department, right, you know, and
Speaker 2: those cars that are driving those go things go away, right,
Speaker 2: and then you don't get then you don't get those players,
Speaker 2: those types of players exactly. So it's it's a catch
Speaker 2: twenty two right. And then talking about recruitment, that's how
Speaker 2: you bring in players these.
Speaker 3: So I agree with did you we were talking about
Speaker 3: on the air. You didn't have to hear fans.
Speaker 2: He says, it doesn't really matter now because it's early
Speaker 2: and that's not what players look at right now. But
Speaker 2: if you don't win, if you don't win, and what's in.
Speaker 3: It for me? Right, right, because that's what it is.
Speaker 3: I'm twenty one, so twenty.
Speaker 2: One year older, but you're still young and you're thinking, sorry, Matthew,
Speaker 2: you ain't gonna get what you hope for.
Speaker 4: What are you gonna do? You get to step in
Speaker 4: as you're gonna give me something? Yeah, exactly, but right,
Speaker 4: it's unfortunate, it's unfortunate. Yeah, we'll see what we'll see
Speaker 4: what happens. And it's kind of beating a dead horse.
Speaker 4: But I'll ask the questions when some of those guys
Speaker 4: come on and say, you know, what's the situation. You
Speaker 4: get paid on the front end back then, stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I know, I know as a football player, you automatically
Speaker 4: get a stipend to pay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course,
Speaker 4: of course that's already. Yeah, that's and that's been that's
Speaker 4: been the case, the case. That's been the case, and.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get more here in a couple more years,
Speaker 2: when when the twenty million dollars comes in and and
Speaker 2: if you're a mediocre school, I'm not saying that's the
Speaker 2: case right now, but it's not training in a great.
Speaker 3: School, you're gonna get paid anyway. Yeah. Don't you wish
Speaker 3: you're still playing? Definitely? I really yeah. I did.
Speaker 2: Definitely do take your beatings on the field, and you
Speaker 2: can take it, man, I'll be on the sideline just yeah,
Speaker 2: you take your game me. Yeah, yeah, I'll did whatever.
Speaker 2: It ain't easy to be in a student athletes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: do you wish still playing?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: A little bit, a little bit, you know, because going
Speaker 4: to live games, I'm seeing players I just I don't know,
Speaker 4: as an athlete, as a former athlete, I just feel
Speaker 4: like I could compete, but maybe I'm yeah, losing a whole.
Speaker 2: Little bit right right, right, Well, why didn't you COVID COVID?
Speaker 3: I feel like expected. Where did you go to high school?
Speaker 4: I went to I went to Short High School, okay,
Speaker 4: and I was a senior. We have pretty good players
Speaker 4: in front of me. So my junior year I started
Speaker 4: half of the games and then senior came. We had COVID.
Speaker 4: So they canceled that season. Okay, and I got it
Speaker 4: would have been your season. Yeah exactly. I didn't want
Speaker 4: to go JUCO because I didn't feel like that was
Speaker 4: for me. But twenty twenty one, you have had a tryouts.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you they do it all had
Speaker 4: it for welcome. Yeah, and I went to that before.
Speaker 4: She didn't make it, but nobody made it during the
Speaker 4: whole trial, like they did nobody, So.
Speaker 3: That was that was for sure.
Speaker 6: I think they held those like a couple of weeks again,
Speaker 6: so bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I remember that they typically do that anyway,
Speaker 2: just to get some more bodies or whatever, just to
Speaker 2: see So that was in his first year. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was that just lost the n AU right exactly. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And were you disheartened a little bit. But then did
Speaker 2: you did you think you played well enough to make it?
Speaker 3: Oh? Definitely, definitely try out.
Speaker 4: Definitely, Yeah they were purposely not even if I was,
Speaker 4: I just like, no, no, definitely. I feel like they
Speaker 4: were doing that to make a statement. I don't know
Speaker 4: that to the other people. Yeah, just we don't need
Speaker 4: you guys, even though we're bad. I don't know, just
Speaker 4: someone was off about that little thing they had. But okay,
Speaker 4: that people they took on from the truck. Oh, they
Speaker 4: took nobody from There was a few, I'm sure there was.
Speaker 4: It was like, I'll say, like two hundred and three
Speaker 4: hundred people.
Speaker 7: That many.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought maybe.
Speaker 4: You're gonna say twenty five No, no, no, no, So
Speaker 4: they they put you in the stad the yeah, divided
Speaker 4: this into position groups. In my runner back group, it
Speaker 4: was like twelve ten of us pretty good, pretty good
Speaker 4: players in that group. Oh no, definitely, yeah, at least
Speaker 4: three that definitely could have at least been a walk
Speaker 4: on or something. And then that it was a lot
Speaker 4: of people there, but nobody, nobody made it.
Speaker 3: So what do you think when they took nobody?
Speaker 4: But I just I don't know. I just felt like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they just did it to do it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, they just did it to prove to
Speaker 3: the other guy you can be.
Speaker 4: Replaced exactly something like exactly that that point right there, Yeah,
Speaker 4: because you kind of sense or maybe people were leaving
Speaker 4: me and comments in the instagrams and thinking, oh, I
Speaker 4: could join this team and then they didn't.
Speaker 3: Just right, I don't know, right, I get it, I
Speaker 3: get it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's tough and they turned out to be. Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens here in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You think they're gonna win? Utah, be realistic, you realistic.
Speaker 2: Cameras is playing. I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Didn't you say what do you say Friday? Did you
Speaker 3: say that they win? No?
Speaker 6: No, because we no, I said I said that.
Speaker 3: But you hear funny Okay, you said they're gonna win.
Speaker 6: You said they're gonna win.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, So yeah, you guys are delusion.
Speaker 3: Remember what I know? You said?
Speaker 2: No, you said that because of the score. We're saying,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, yeah you did. You had them winning
Speaker 2: thirty one seventeen yeah, something like that. Yeah, so all
Speaker 2: three of you guys, you guys should leave the room. No,
Speaker 2: don't go, don't go till your end of the show. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: it was tough.
Speaker 4: What do you think is gonna happen with Colorado? I
Speaker 4: don't know, but I'm excited for that game.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4: It's too long hollowing it now. We are not stopping
Speaker 4: Travis Hunner. I'm calling it. Possibly I picked them. That
Speaker 4: was my only win this weekend. I was horrible this weekend,
Speaker 4: but that was my only win. They have the same
Speaker 4: issues as they got we got ready to go or
Speaker 4: we got one minute? Oh okay, good, good, No, thanks
Speaker 4: for the conversation, guys. I uh, it's too early for
Speaker 4: me to say. But uh, but they're they're Arizona kind.
Speaker 6: Of the star players.
Speaker 3: But the coach, do you know anything about him being
Speaker 3: a good coach.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say he's a good coach because
Speaker 4: the same things that are happening last year are having
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 3: You know, you had the whole sea.
Speaker 6: I think they gave him one year of grace to
Speaker 6: this year. They still have the same.
Speaker 2: Issues and he'll be here next year after the guys leave.
Speaker 2: But no, no, yeah, I think the jury is still
Speaker 2: out and he has people.
Speaker 3: At least the hype machine is down.
Speaker 6: And think about next year one Trevis yea too?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah. Now now what's well? The Florida state
Speaker 2: job's open.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna be open.
Speaker 2: No, it'd be for you know why you expose yourself
Speaker 2: to Yeah. Okay, are we good? Okay? Thanks guys, thanks
Speaker 2: for hanging in there with us, the people who stayed
Speaker 2: with us this afternoon. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Maybe
Speaker 2: j will be around.
Speaker 3: We'll have uh uh Ryan with us and we'll talk
Speaker 3: to you tomorrow. Thanks,