Speaker 1: You're watching brand new faces. I'm your host, Matt, and
Speaker 1: I'm joined tonight by a very special guest. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: join me and welcoming to the show, the lovely Phoenix Angel. Phoenix,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on with me tonight. Hey,
Speaker 1: how are you let me just start you off with
Speaker 1: some real rude bluntness right off the back? My Yeah,
Speaker 1: OCD dick is so hard right now. It's raging, all
Speaker 1: four and a half inches of it. And can I
Speaker 1: tell you why?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: Because to find Phoenix Angel, all you have to do
Speaker 1: is go on any social media side. It seems Twitter, Instagram,
Speaker 1: most importantly only fans. We want to direct people there
Speaker 1: and it is the same user name across everything. Oh god,
Speaker 1: it just makes my OCD dick so hard to see,
Speaker 1: well to see. So if you want to find Phoenix
Speaker 1: and please we reckon and at least follow the free
Speaker 1: ones bare minimum. If you don't have any money, follow
Speaker 1: the free ones. But I want to direct you to
Speaker 1: the only fans because we're going to talk about the content.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what she makes, what she's
Speaker 1: going to be making, and this and that At Phoenix
Speaker 1: Angel three to oh one at Phoenix. Angel three to
Speaker 1: oh one links in the episode description as always Phoenix.
Speaker 1: Now that I'm done babbling, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on with Midnight, I just want to let.
Speaker 2: You know right now I'm choking on my own spit.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I just drank out of my water bottle. Go,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm fine.
Speaker 1: I've interviewed two major I've interviewed a lot of sportsts,
Speaker 1: but there were two major ones Sarah J and sky Blue,
Speaker 1: I think. And both of them took a drink just
Speaker 1: as I made a joke and I start chulding. So
Speaker 1: I can go around the rest of my life and say,
Speaker 1: legendary AVN Hall of Famer Sarah J. I gagged her.
Speaker 1: That's what I saw her. There you go.
Speaker 2: I love her. She is a goat about aidy pussy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I mean I love that. First off, I interviewed so
Speaker 1: many newer people coming in who are like, I never
Speaker 1: heard of that, Who's Jenna Jamison blah blah. So let's
Speaker 1: let's let's definitely dive into it. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you were one hundred percent right. I styn't know. I've
Speaker 1: I've mostly watched her take dick, isn't it roight? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a goat there too, Yeah yeah yeah. Let me
Speaker 1: start off with the third rudest question you can ask
Speaker 1: a woman. First question is, obviously, are you pregnant? The
Speaker 1: second question is how much do you weigh? Those are rude.
Speaker 1: I don't bring those up. But number three I think
Speaker 1: is kind of fair. Can I ask you, Phoenix, how
Speaker 1: old you are?
Speaker 2: I am fifty one.
Speaker 1: That's loving it incredible. That is it's just because you look.
Speaker 1: You look thirty four. Oh I'm not. I'm not blowing
Speaker 1: smoke either. You look, yeah, thirty four, thirty five. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be ridiculous and be like twenty two
Speaker 1: because won't be honest. None of us do.
Speaker 2: No, no, I have nothing to do with that, Thank
Speaker 2: you so much. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Good Jeane.
Speaker 2: Nothing to do with that, that's God, my parents and DNA.
Speaker 2: I have nothing to.
Speaker 1: Do with that. Lucked out there. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: the second question then, So, growing up, I would watch
Speaker 1: rap some music videos and this and that, and they
Speaker 1: say she's thirty two six blah blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, her measurements are those numbers. I
Speaker 1: don't know what they mean, but it's great that those
Speaker 1: measurements are her numbers. I came up with my own
Speaker 1: measurements stat for this show that I think is a
Speaker 1: little easier and a little more relevant to people listening
Speaker 1: and who want to check you out and this and that.
Speaker 1: First off, let me ask what is your height?
Speaker 2: I am five five in that all important.
Speaker 1: Half, okaye, going, you got to get that. I'm five
Speaker 1: nine and three quarters and I will always take that
Speaker 1: three quarters. Okay. Let me ask what size are your
Speaker 1: shoes your feet?
Speaker 2: I'm the size nine.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's solid. And then the last one,
Speaker 1: what is your cup size?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't really know.
Speaker 1: Is that a common thing with women. I interview so
Speaker 1: many women, and so many of them are like, I
Speaker 1: don't have any idea what size. I'm like, you were
Speaker 1: in Glamour essentially.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I think most of my adult life I've
Speaker 2: been at thirty four. I think I was told b
Speaker 2: I used to work in Victoria's Secret in the mall
Speaker 2: in my twenties for a very short time, okay, and
Speaker 2: someone said they asked me what was my size? I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, I work at Victoria's Secret and I don't
Speaker 2: know how am I supposed to say these poor women?
Speaker 2: So I found out it was a B. So they
Speaker 2: say it goes up and down and as you get older,
Speaker 2: so I have no idea.
Speaker 1: That's like working at Starbucks and being like, oh I
Speaker 1: don't like to smell a coffee. Okay, well I don't know.
Speaker 2: It happened, It can happen.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't happen. I mean, you weren't like immediately interested,
Speaker 1: like oh God, I gotta I gotta try this, you know,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. As soon as you got that job there, well,
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 2: I was so stressed out because I started during the
Speaker 2: Christmas season and it was a really really popular mall,
Speaker 2: kind of an upscale mall where I live. And my
Speaker 2: very first day on the job, my very first customer
Speaker 2: was Tony Braxton.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was gonna ask you, did you
Speaker 2: remember if she was? And I'm like, well, the first
Speaker 2: thing I thought of she short as shit.
Speaker 1: Oh they all celebrities are right. I know that she's
Speaker 1: like four.
Speaker 2: Foot nothing, And I'm like, what, okay, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: kind of did. I kind of did, but I didn't
Speaker 2: know if I would get really good at it, but
Speaker 2: it was kind of fun for me to see the
Speaker 2: guys come in, okay and they're all so pitiful. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I gotta get something from my girlfriend or
Speaker 2: my wife is mad at me, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: got you, bro, I got you.
Speaker 1: I had. I had a similar awkward exchange, but I
Speaker 1: was buying something from my mother, so it was really weird. No,
Speaker 1: I was just kidding. I wasn't shopping in Victoria's Secret
Speaker 1: for my mother. Oh please does that?
Speaker 2: And I don't judge you for that, king, Bro, do
Speaker 2: what you gotta do whatever blows your skirt up.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you, Phoenix, what is your favorite part
Speaker 1: of your body?
Speaker 2: Oh? That's an interesting question. Well outside of what my pussy,
Speaker 2: I guess my mouth.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, does that count? I mean, is it attached?
Speaker 1: Is attached to your body? So I'm counting it personally?
Speaker 2: Are you talking from the.
Speaker 1: Neck now, I'm your whole body? I would say the
Speaker 1: head is included in that, so yes.
Speaker 2: Let's see. Well, I've been told my ass is nice,
Speaker 2: so I guess my ass.
Speaker 1: That's wonderfully.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 1: More than anything in life, I want to say that
Speaker 1: I want to see. Yeah, sure, no, pass, thanks, No,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, I am raised Southern, so we have to
Speaker 2: be nice.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can see.
Speaker 1: My goodness?
Speaker 2: Okay, So.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, no, no, no, yep, I got it. I
Speaker 1: am uh, I'm solid over here. I'm just gonna pause
Speaker 1: this string share oh solid yeah yeah, yeah, only because
Speaker 1: it only because of the OCD dick thing. Obviously, I'm
Speaker 1: a very professional person. LEVI ask Phoenix, what was your
Speaker 1: entrance into this world? When did you chance? Was it
Speaker 1: were you were? You're eighteen years old, where you're forty
Speaker 1: two years old. When did you change from quote unquote
Speaker 1: vanilla to this is a lifestyle, this is a industry,
Speaker 1: this is a whatever that I need to dive into.
Speaker 2: I think this was a long time coming because I've
Speaker 2: actually really sexual all in my life, but I've had
Speaker 2: to kind of suppress it. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Totally makes sense? Let me let me pause. You let
Speaker 1: me either have you sit back a little bit or
Speaker 1: that's perfet or that's perfect or lean forward. Either way.
Speaker 1: It's just your head was cut off and it. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, it was a beautiful shot, but I
Speaker 1: don't your beautiful face. No, no, no, just there's the tits.
Speaker 1: You had no eyes in this shot, but a beautiful mouth. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So let's let's get let me, let me, let me
Speaker 1: let me reset you on that. What was your entrance
Speaker 1: into the adult entertainment industry, lifestyle? Whatever it was?
Speaker 2: Okay, this is not the reason that people expect. I figured, Okay,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to explore my sexuality, I got permission.
Speaker 2: My husband and I have an amazing sex life. But
Speaker 2: he was like, you know, he's had a lot of
Speaker 2: pussy in his life, so he felt kind of bad
Speaker 2: for me because I have such a strong sexuality, and
Speaker 2: I was really embarrassed by it.
Speaker 1: Yes, religious, can I ask religious thing at all? Or
Speaker 1: family type? Family? Like what, I'm not asking for personal details, obviously,
Speaker 1: but why were.
Speaker 2: You actually both? You know, they always say good girls
Speaker 2: don't do that, you know, and and you know women
Speaker 2: with integrity and character don't like nasty, disrespectful sex. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, fine, fuck fine, So I basically almost
Speaker 2: gave myself carpal tunnel.
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: No, I get it, I get it, hey.
Speaker 2: You know, but on the inside, I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: people are talking about getting to first base, you know,
Speaker 2: little hand over under the sweater action. I'm thinking about
Speaker 2: swinging from the chandelier with midgets and the thousand hours dressing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't, there's something wrong with me. I'm like, what,
Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to think like this. You know, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I was a late bloomer. My dad was really strict,
Speaker 2: so I didn't. My first date, I was was prom Wow, okay,
Speaker 2: I graduated a virgin hahaha. But I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just I felt like I was doing the right thing.
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, I'm like.
Speaker 1: God, it's it's funny. I've done so many interviews where
Speaker 1: it starts with I started in a religious family, and
Speaker 1: it's almost like a tightrope. You have to walk where
Speaker 1: you want to protect your kids, put them on the
Speaker 1: quote unquote right path and this and that, and if
Speaker 1: you just push too hard, they're going to go off
Speaker 1: the edge. And it's not even a two foot drop.
Speaker 1: They're coming into the grand canyon of gang bangs and
Speaker 1: blow bangs and every other kind of bang you could
Speaker 1: ever think of. Right, Uh, Okay, So you were you
Speaker 1: were always feeling that way when you're younger, when do
Speaker 1: you what age do you think when you was it
Speaker 1: you had met your husband, you were already with him,
Speaker 1: and then you guys went into the lifestyle. Do you
Speaker 1: get married already in the lifestyle? How did that happen?
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna sound like on the dark
Speaker 2: side of a romantic my husband. It was when I
Speaker 2: married my husband. Not long after I married him. I
Speaker 2: guess being with that many women, you gotta know how
Speaker 2: to do a little bit. Sure. Sure, so she made
Speaker 2: me squirk. Okay, I didn't know I could do that.
Speaker 2: I thought I loved forn by the way flurn since
Speaker 2: my twenties. Holy shit, I love forn. But I always
Speaker 2: saw women like that could squirt. I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, Like it was like the holy fucking girl,
Speaker 2: Like how do you? How are you doing that? I
Speaker 2: thought it was something like a woman had to be
Speaker 2: born with. I was like, man, this shit sure looks messy,
Speaker 2: but it looks awesome. My husband made me squirk, and
Speaker 2: and I'm like hanging on to him for dear life,
Speaker 2: like convulsely, like the heavens open up like fuck yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes total sense to me. Let me hit
Speaker 1: you with something from the outside though. Here's what it
Speaker 1: sounds like. It sounds like you're with your husband. It
Speaker 1: makes you square. Oh my god, it's wonderful, and then
Speaker 1: you immediately go, what other kind of dick can I get?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Lord, okay, all right. So it was it was more
Speaker 1: a case of not so because I think people who
Speaker 1: are more vanilla and not in lifestyle and not in
Speaker 1: this and that probably look at it and think, again,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this. This is an outside perspective, Oh
Speaker 1: she fucked her husband, not good enough, she needs other
Speaker 1: new dick. Now that it almost sounds like he showed
Speaker 1: you like a chef making a great meal, going, this
Speaker 1: is what's possible, right, Yes, okay.
Speaker 2: My husband opened the floodgates, gotcha?
Speaker 1: Well literally, yeah, literally.
Speaker 2: And the coolest thing is my husband's very supportive. He's
Speaker 2: not in the industry at all, super supportive. He felt
Speaker 2: bad that I at the sexual level that I'm at
Speaker 2: in my mind and the things that I've done, that
Speaker 2: I had to suppress it for so long. I missed
Speaker 2: out probably on a lot of great sex just for
Speaker 2: that reason. So my husband and I are super coold.
Speaker 2: He was like, women go do your thing, you know,
Speaker 2: always respect for each other, no feelings involved ever, but
Speaker 2: get it out, do it while you can. So it's
Speaker 2: been amazing.
Speaker 1: If you don't, if this is too personal, just cut
Speaker 1: me off of what was the who initiated the first conversation?
Speaker 1: Because I again, just like religious kids, that's a tightrope
Speaker 1: where I go, you and I are together and I
Speaker 1: go Phoenix, you ever think about out like taking other
Speaker 1: dis or no, and then you know and then if
Speaker 1: you're immediately offended, I'm like, oh fuck, I fucked up?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: So what was was there an initial conversation? Did he
Speaker 1: present to you dick first? Did you go we should
Speaker 1: bring another girl in? Like? What was the dynamic there?
Speaker 2: Okay? This is also a reason that people would probably
Speaker 2: not figure out. I figured, you know what they say,
Speaker 2: why go out for burgers when you got steak at home?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: I have steak at home. So if I'm going to
Speaker 2: try to do this and it's like really embrace my sexuality,
Speaker 2: which is what I always say, then why ambers I
Speaker 2: want some steak?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: So in order to get steak, you kind of have
Speaker 2: to go where they serve it, okay, and where they
Speaker 2: serve it is amateur and professional born.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yes, so it was.
Speaker 2: That important to me that I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 2: do this. I'm going to do this all the way.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, don't half ass it. You might as well, right, yeah, so,
Speaker 1: but I mean that that I agree with you. But
Speaker 1: that in and of itself is also a big step
Speaker 1: because there's swinger parties, there's all the stuff that's private.
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, this, I can go and do my wife,
Speaker 1: the midgets, the Thousand Island dressing, all the shit, and
Speaker 1: no one ever has to know. I can go into
Speaker 1: my job and be like, hey, Claire, how was your weekend?
Speaker 1: This and that you just went full board? Now is
Speaker 1: that because of a lack of community around you, like
Speaker 1: a lack of a lifestyle community around you, or did
Speaker 1: you just go, oh, are you that type that just
Speaker 1: stu stomps on the gas and go let's fucking fly?
Speaker 2: Sometimes yes, but this particular thing I actually tried that first.
Speaker 2: I really did. That's why I came to the conclusion
Speaker 2: that I did, because unfortunately, wouldn't you go to like
Speaker 2: swing clubs, house parties, things like that, you don't really
Speaker 2: know what you're gonna get. Sure you can I mean,
Speaker 2: you can go on these sites and they'll say they
Speaker 2: have certifications that they're really nice or they're respectful of
Speaker 2: what the couples want or whatever like that, and they
Speaker 2: could be you know, big or really good whatever. That's great,
Speaker 2: but it can be few and far between, especially in
Speaker 2: certain areas. So you just got to go with what's there.
Speaker 2: And I hated that. I hated that. So I was like, well, okay,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to do this, let's do this. And
Speaker 2: I did it, and I actually I'm glad that I
Speaker 2: did because the sex is so much better. I feel
Speaker 2: more comfortable with it, and I'm actually starting to let
Speaker 2: go a.
Speaker 1: Lot more interesting. So that up there, ease. Okay, And
Speaker 1: now I'm not questioning you on this because I believe
Speaker 1: you if you say it is the sex better, because
Speaker 1: everything I've heard how it's filmed, it's just a lot
Speaker 1: of stop and go, stop and go, stop and go.
Speaker 1: Maybe that wasn't your experience or it was, okay, but
Speaker 1: that's still pleasurable for you, then it is.
Speaker 2: It is. It's just the problem is you have to
Speaker 2: have to learn how to have it and sells like
Speaker 2: you have to learn how to stop and go like
Speaker 2: you say, and for the guys, yes, you have to
Speaker 2: come on command or within a very small range of time.
Speaker 2: So it can be tough if you're into it and
Speaker 2: they say, okay, you want to switch to something else,
Speaker 2: but they're like behind in the camera light, two more minutes,
Speaker 2: three more minutes, and you're like, okay, keep you on,
Speaker 2: or you know, I'm like okay, and I get it.
Speaker 2: Try to get into It's it's a little bit disconcerting,
Speaker 2: but you have to get used to it.
Speaker 1: Sure, you get to get used to it.
Speaker 2: You have to kind of go somewhere else in your head.
Speaker 1: It seems like lifestyle wise, you're exactly right. It's not
Speaker 1: only that you get to almost pick the person you're
Speaker 1: gonna work with in a sense, you know, and this
Speaker 1: and that, but also it's probably gonna be the most
Speaker 1: professional sex you have in your life. Right. The only
Speaker 1: downside is you now that you are on the internet,
Speaker 1: so it's like a real catch twenty two. But I
Speaker 1: never thought about it that way. Lifestyle is just kind
Speaker 1: of I mean, porn is kind of like a more structured,
Speaker 1: organized way of pursuing the lifestyle. And that's that's interesting
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: You look at it scientifically, yeah, it can be.
Speaker 1: Sure. Are you into any mainstream porn stars?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Is there anyone that you have eyes on, like I
Speaker 1: would like to work with? That? Male? Female? Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: If you don't, you would not believe how many people
Speaker 1: are in this industry, real high up and go. I
Speaker 1: don't really know anyone else. And I'm like, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: that's totally reasonable too. But is there anyone you have
Speaker 1: eyes on working with eventually down the line?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure because you know they say
Speaker 2: that the porn stars they come and go, and I
Speaker 2: watch a lot of amateur porn too. Sure, so I okay,
Speaker 2: one name sticks out to me. Johnny Sins, Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The reason why I say that is because across the board,
Speaker 2: different women, different styles, different looks, sometimes different techniques, they
Speaker 2: all say the same thing. He's amazing to work with. Sure,
Speaker 2: So that means he's real fluid with his sexuality, which
Speaker 2: I'm really really down for.
Speaker 1: So sure, all right, very cool. Let me get into
Speaker 1: some of the likes dislikes, and then we'll get into stories, content,
Speaker 1: this and that, whatever you like to do. First off,
Speaker 1: are you into women? Yes, I can be, can be
Speaker 1: all right, So I have I have been with women before, Yes,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like to me, you're like a like
Speaker 1: nine posy No, move my slider for me. Tell me
Speaker 1: where you is gonna go?
Speaker 2: Seventy thirty. Okay, I have to actually have I love
Speaker 2: watching it. I love it, but sometimes I have to
Speaker 2: have just it'll just hit me sometimes, like I have
Speaker 2: to have a taste for it. Sure, Like sometimes like
Speaker 2: you have a taste for a freaking Filet mignon or
Speaker 2: something like that. You know, you just sometimes you just
Speaker 2: really have a taste for it. I'm like that.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm not a sushi guy, but
Speaker 1: once in a while, a couple times a year ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do this. Let's do this. So I get it.
Speaker 1: I totally get it. Uh, let me do the cum
Speaker 1: related questions. Do you swallow?
Speaker 2: I will if I like you?
Speaker 1: Are you okay? Are you into facials?
Speaker 2: I will if I like you?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: And?
Speaker 1: Uh, what do they call him cream pies? Internal guys
Speaker 1: blowing inside you? I like to say that nicely down
Speaker 1: by the docks, how about them? Are you into cream pies?
Speaker 2: Very much? So?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So is that your preferred method of finishing.
Speaker 2: It depends on the person that I'm fucking at that moment.
Speaker 2: If there is a lot of sexual chemistry and he
Speaker 2: and I are just like really like he's trying to
Speaker 2: fuck me through the floor, then I will swallow him
Speaker 2: most definitely. I like it rough. Sometimes I do love
Speaker 2: this the choky Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh. Let me ask what is your current working relationship
Speaker 1: with anal?
Speaker 2: Okay, I have that anal before. Yeah, I practice it
Speaker 2: sometimes by myself. I have like these really cool anal
Speaker 2: plugs with Brianstones on them, So I do, like, you know,
Speaker 2: I actually want to push my boundary sexually, So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I want to just I want to do it
Speaker 2: feels good.
Speaker 1: Okay, I get it. I get Well, let's talk about
Speaker 1: where your boundaries have been expanded too. So let me
Speaker 1: ask what have you done. I've looked it up and
Speaker 1: I've seen you've shot with It's funny the number went
Speaker 1: up and it's you don't look like either of the numbers.
Speaker 1: But what was it MILFs over forty? Was it forty
Speaker 1: forty plus miles forty plus milks? And then you were
Speaker 1: on their fifty plus one too, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've actually been on another site a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago. I'll call it all over thirty.
Speaker 1: That's so that's you're only doing age stuff to do
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: It's the powers that be that made that. Sure. I
Speaker 2: have nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: I totally understand where there was all just single boy girls.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: I did have one that was supposed to be a
Speaker 2: girl girl, but the girl actually got the flu.
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, you don't want that on set. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not good. We're any with multiple guys.
Speaker 2: I did some personal stuff with multiple guys.
Speaker 1: So that's what I was going to ask. Uh, what
Speaker 1: is the most amount of people you have been in
Speaker 1: in a setting with.
Speaker 2: I've been to a house park, I've been to a
Speaker 2: house party. Uh, let's see what is this May So
Speaker 2: it is me February. Okay, I went to a house
Speaker 2: party and I had a guy in my mouth, a
Speaker 2: guy on this wood, a guy on this food, my
Speaker 2: husband holding one leg up, another guy holding another leg up,
Speaker 2: and a guy going down on me.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: That was amazing. Sure, a little overwhelming, but amazing. So
Speaker 2: how many is that?
Speaker 1: Five? Five six? One? Like one leg? Tit tit mouth.
Speaker 1: Let's see that's six I think I can. I say
Speaker 1: this is not an insult at all. Actually, I'm very
Speaker 1: impressed with this. This is the that is the most
Speaker 1: feminist gang bang I've ever heard, by the way, I
Speaker 1: just I just you picture. I picture a gang bang,
Speaker 1: and I picture a girl, and there's one of two ways.
Speaker 1: Either she's she's dominating the guys. She's like you bring
Speaker 1: that dick over here, or she's the rag dog. You know,
Speaker 1: she'd be tossed around and brought the guy and guy
Speaker 1: and you're just like, worship me. Zoom, cut off my
Speaker 1: other arm there, You're just like, worship me. Go ahead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I was lying on this little sofa thing and
Speaker 2: my husband got up and this guy just apparently he
Speaker 2: hadn't been watching me the whole house party. He came
Speaker 2: over and just started and before I could think, it
Speaker 2: was just like scrubbing bubbles. They were everywhere, and I'm like, oh, okay, Like,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you it was awesome. But I actually I
Speaker 2: have a thing for three simes. Okay, the male male female.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I like watching I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: There's a beautiful symmetry to them and I'm crazy, probably
Speaker 1: on the spectrum somewhere where I look at it and
Speaker 1: go like, that's just pretty. I just like that a
Speaker 1: girl getting dpeed and I'm like, pretty, look at that.
Speaker 1: It's even everywhere around.
Speaker 2: I have not been dpeyed yet. Okay, but I am
Speaker 2: so ready for that. I want that so bad. I
Speaker 2: want to feel full.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I normally just eat a big meal. That's me.
Speaker 1: But I understand, uh, going into this lifestyle coming from
Speaker 1: somewhat of a more sheltered past, were there any kinks
Speaker 1: or fetishes that you were extremely interested in trying once
Speaker 1: you were liberated or felt the sexual liberation opening up
Speaker 1: the floodgates, if you will. Was there anything where you're like,
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I want to try, or maybe
Speaker 1: not even the first thing, but you're like, that's what
Speaker 1: I want to work my way up to. Oh well,
Speaker 1: let's do. Let me let me do two. Answered, let
Speaker 1: me do about how to say it, let me do two.
Speaker 1: When you first got in and then, is there anything
Speaker 1: new that you're like, Oh shit, now that I've been
Speaker 1: in this a little bit, I want to try that too.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm sure you're familiar with Adriana Chechi.
Speaker 1: Yep, of course.
Speaker 2: Okay. I've watched I like watching these podcasts about, you know,
Speaker 2: porn stars and everything. I saw one where she was
Speaker 2: talking about she had a particular move that she thinks
Speaker 2: she invented. I can't do it right at this moment,
Speaker 2: but it's where she's upside down on the bed like
Speaker 2: this with her legs down. So I guess you can
Speaker 2: eat her out like that and she can turn her
Speaker 2: head and suck you off at the same time.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, I want to try that. Okay, all right?
Speaker 1: And then is there any kind of kinkerfetish or anything
Speaker 1: else that you want to try film?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: Like, is there any niche you want to work your
Speaker 1: way into or anything specific that's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I have never figured out the right way to word
Speaker 1: that I have, Like, what's your kinkerfetish that you didn't
Speaker 1: know you liked and then you figured it out? But whatever,
Speaker 1: what are you looking forward to? What's next?
Speaker 2: I guess for me, the nastier the better, Okay. So
Speaker 2: I it's very difficult for me to tell people what's
Speaker 2: in my head because they probably wouldn't believe me. My
Speaker 2: husband says, I have an amazing poker face, because when
Speaker 2: when I talk to people like I, you know, I
Speaker 2: try to be nice, you knowlex people, and you wouldn't
Speaker 2: know that I'll like the shit that I like. You know,
Speaker 2: you grab my hair and fucking fuck me in half.
Speaker 2: I would really love that. That would be fantastic for me.
Speaker 2: You think you can do that?
Speaker 1: I don't think I could unless you showed me your
Speaker 1: social media again, which obviously is Phoenix Angel three oh
Speaker 1: one looks in the episode description, people make sure you
Speaker 1: go and follow her and sign up for the only
Speaker 1: fans uh, slip those plugs in there. Okay, So look,
Speaker 1: I love the enthusiasm. I love the attitude. It's gung ho.
Speaker 1: A lot of girls who are coming into the industry
Speaker 1: they'll have that same thing. And then I asked this
Speaker 1: question and then they go, oh, nothing, nothing at all,
Speaker 1: I'm superwoman. Oh blah blahlah. Is there any kinker fetish
Speaker 1: that you have no interest in getting into? You're just
Speaker 1: like and I take out anything real extreme. I used
Speaker 1: to call this. I used to call this game sack
Speaker 1: shit animals. Kids, those are out, Okay, thank you, yes
Speaker 1: if if, Because inevitably, when I first started interview girls,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, and they go, well, I wouldn't like
Speaker 1: fuck a kid or anything. I'd be like, yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I got it. You wouldn't be here if you would.
Speaker 1: So we're taking those, we're taking those out of the equation.
Speaker 1: But is there anything else that's more normal within this industry,
Speaker 1: more mainstream where you're just like, m not for me?
Speaker 2: Okay. So I think my chink is I personally love
Speaker 2: being dominated sexually. I love that, and I think my
Speaker 2: thing of pushing my boundary my chink would be pushing
Speaker 2: myself as far as I can go within that domination. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: So what is something you have no interest in looking
Speaker 1: forward to? Though? Like, is there a point where see
Speaker 1: everyone always says that and you know, okay, but you
Speaker 1: took out the stuff that I wasn't that's true. But
Speaker 1: I'll hit you with one that's not as common anymore,
Speaker 1: was common a few years ago. And it can go
Speaker 1: either way. And immediately when I say this, most women go, oh, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that either. Race play you know what?
Speaker 2: That is so hot?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: I actually watched by accident, then I got intrigued. I've
Speaker 2: actually watched it's mostly European. I love European poor. They
Speaker 2: have no shame.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah they I.
Speaker 2: Saw one, but it was like South Africa, so it
Speaker 2: was it was extreme in the skin.
Speaker 1: Tones, if you will, sure, but it was.
Speaker 2: Something hot about that. I think, you know, it's the
Speaker 2: taboo thing that most people say a lot of people's
Speaker 2: chinks are taboo totally that I'm I'm blajio, so you know,
Speaker 2: black and Chinese.
Speaker 1: So that's I was going to ask that, but let
Speaker 1: me let me re re fix this real quick. Okay,
Speaker 1: was there? Okay, do you okay, do you know what
Speaker 1: race I don't mean to say this insultingly if you do.
Speaker 1: Do you know what race play is? Though?
Speaker 2: I think that's like role playing but with race.
Speaker 1: Right, well, kind of a little bit with like racism there,
Speaker 1: which is.
Speaker 2: Most I was thinking about, like like Matt slave type thing.
Speaker 2: I don't think you were talking about the Tour de France.
Speaker 2: I know what you were talking about.
Speaker 1: So anytime I ask this and I always get the
Speaker 1: response no, I'll try anything. I go, what about race play?
Speaker 1: And all these white girls go no, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that, no, thank you. I've interviewed a lot of
Speaker 1: black performers black performers. Sometimes it goes either way. There's
Speaker 1: Avery Jane who's like, yo, you say anything around me,
Speaker 1: I will fucking beat the shit out of you. I'm
Speaker 1: total respect to that. Love it, respect it, it's your choice.
Speaker 1: I've spoken to Anna Fox, who is a legend in
Speaker 1: this industry.
Speaker 2: I know that is.
Speaker 1: She's like, who gives a fuck, I don't care whatever
Speaker 1: you want to do. You know, I'm filming a scene.
Speaker 1: We're acting here. I've spoken to black male performer John Legendary.
Speaker 1: He goes, yo, I don't care what a girl calls
Speaker 1: me if I'm inside of her, like, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: And I know it's just for the scene and whatever else.
Speaker 1: But there are people in this industry who want that,
Speaker 1: who get requests for that all the time. And it's
Speaker 1: interesting to you said you were blazing. I don't know,
Speaker 1: am I allowed to say that? Is that a thing
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say?
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit about Okay, okay, Tiger Woods
Speaker 2: with an acid boots. I'm Blazian, black and Asian. So
Speaker 2: for me, I've had a lot of men in my
Speaker 2: life where either if I've either slept with them or
Speaker 2: I actually dated them, I was their taboo because they
Speaker 2: I was for a lot of men, which is very
Speaker 2: funny to me. I was the first non white girl
Speaker 2: they ever dated. Okay, so it was to me, I
Speaker 2: see how sexually exciting that is, and that, especially in
Speaker 2: the South, something taboo like that. Sure, you have taboos
Speaker 2: everywhere and everything, like step mom, stepdad, you know you're uh,
Speaker 2: was it your stepsister or whatever? That's the family taboo.
Speaker 1: It's funny.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: I apologize for always referencing former interviews. It's just you.
Speaker 1: You spark my memory on an a interview gauge who
Speaker 1: was a also legendary porn star from the early two thousands,
Speaker 1: and she's from our Kansas. She's like a four foot ten,
Speaker 1: you know, little spinner girl who's just always had a
Speaker 1: mouth on her. Loved her. She was phenomenal, amazing to
Speaker 1: get on. And uh, I had her on and I
Speaker 1: asked the same type of stuff and she said, you know, Arkansas. Again,
Speaker 1: no offense. I'm from New Jersey. I think everything below
Speaker 1: Delaware is like the South, not from Alabama. But she goes,
Speaker 1: she goes. I had no problem shooting an inter racial scene.
Speaker 1: I was like, did you worry about catching any shit
Speaker 1: back home with racism and this and that. She goes.
Speaker 1: The only thing I want to do is any of
Speaker 1: the step brother stepsister shit because that is too close
Speaker 1: to what's actually happening back in my hometown. Don't give
Speaker 1: her a fuck if they I don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: if they think I fucked a black eye, it don't
Speaker 1: matter to me. That's fun Yeah, she was. She was
Speaker 1: very funny. So let me ask this, do you when
Speaker 1: you get quote unquote fetishized in that way, are you
Speaker 1: offended by that? Would it have to be how extreme
Speaker 1: the person takes it, Like if they were like, oh god,
Speaker 1: I just love your Blazian body all the time, You're
Speaker 1: so blazingly beautiful that I mean, is there some point
Speaker 1: where you'd be like, yo, I'm more than just a
Speaker 1: beautiful Blasian girl.
Speaker 2: Okay. So I have learned over my life that you
Speaker 2: have to learn how to separate sex and emotion. So
Speaker 2: one of the things I think in that type of situation,
Speaker 2: you probably have to talk about it first, you know,
Speaker 2: over a drink or shot whatever like that. It's like, look,
Speaker 2: me saying X Y and Z or doing x Y
Speaker 2: and Z gets my dick hard. As fucked and I
Speaker 2: love it, And I don't mean anything to you. It's
Speaker 2: not against you. This is my cheek. Are you cool
Speaker 2: with that? Are you cool? Is meant? Nothing? Is? Can
Speaker 2: you handle that? Are you good? I respect that because
Speaker 2: everybody has a fucking chink somewhere in there. We're all freaks.
Speaker 2: Was just at what level you are? So?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure your level is high, it sounds like, but
Speaker 1: what are some of your what? What? What really gets
Speaker 1: you going?
Speaker 2: I like to be nasty with someone, like really nasty
Speaker 2: with someone, which is something that I'm getting ready to
Speaker 2: put more of on film because I used to be
Speaker 2: so embarrassed by it. But my level of nasty is
Speaker 2: like spit in my mouth and then I'll suck your
Speaker 2: dick with it. I want you like fuck me in
Speaker 2: my ass and then let me suck it right afterwards.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I love it. I
Speaker 2: love it. I want to be deep. I want to
Speaker 2: hold somebody in my mouth and I want to be
Speaker 2: coming to where it's like I'm crying because I'm coming
Speaker 2: so hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Are you just an incredible dirty talker or
Speaker 1: does that okay? All right?
Speaker 2: My each and I have I have been with people
Speaker 2: that don't are not really talkers, which is fine.
Speaker 1: Sure you should know you got the.
Speaker 2: Strong, silent type or what have you. Yeah, if you
Speaker 2: don't talk that much, I might talk a little bit
Speaker 2: for you. Sure, but yeah, I like talking. That's part
Speaker 2: of the fun.
Speaker 1: It's it always again with some of the newer girls
Speaker 1: I interview, it's always that that when needing to break through,
Speaker 1: where they're like, okay, I'm not I'm alright showing my
Speaker 1: body off, I'm alright fucking on camera this and that,
Speaker 1: but saying like, you know, cram that dick in my
Speaker 1: tight ass, they go like, oh, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I can actually say those words. And I always just
Speaker 1: find it funny watching that evolution of not a dirty talker.
Speaker 1: And then I'll see their scene two years after I
Speaker 1: talk to them and they're like, ah, fuck, make it out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, there she goes, she learned it.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. It's I personally think that women are
Speaker 2: taught a certain way, and it's so ingrained and who
Speaker 2: they are. I don't think a lot of women realize
Speaker 2: that they have a circle of people standing around their
Speaker 2: bed judging how they fuck. And I realized that and
Speaker 2: I'm like, like, like, you can't. If you do certain
Speaker 2: sex acts, you're you know, you're a horror whatever like that,
Speaker 2: if you blow or you do whatever, you have anal
Speaker 2: sex whatever. I'm like, you know what, you see this
Speaker 2: right here? This is called the bill. Your name is
Speaker 2: on it, So fuck you, and that's what I want
Speaker 2: to do. I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The judgment cast by people sitting in cubicles telling
Speaker 1: you you're not living your life the right way as
Speaker 1: they soak up led lights and I did that for
Speaker 1: plenty of time and I still do that from home now.
Speaker 1: But the judgment people will cast on performers is, look,
Speaker 1: you know, mind your own business. Whatever people do, buy themselves.
Speaker 1: I always say this, as long as there's no kids
Speaker 1: or dogs in the bedroom, like we're good, we are good.
Speaker 1: You know, mind your own business. Let them live their life.
Speaker 1: But you know you're gonna catch it online. Everyone always
Speaker 1: does because there's no fine. It's like people out there right,
Speaker 1: it's fine.
Speaker 2: I mean you know what, I am not stupid. I
Speaker 2: know that reality is a possibility here and that people
Speaker 2: are not gonna like everything that you do, especially getting
Speaker 2: into this industry. I've spent my entire life suppressing my
Speaker 2: sexuality for what?
Speaker 1: No right?
Speaker 2: Right? So I'm just like, basically, okay, if you don't
Speaker 2: like it, I understand none beloved for you have a
Speaker 2: great day. You don't have to watch. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: over here and get been off for this mathooning and
Speaker 2: fuck within an inch of my life and you go
Speaker 2: back to your cup of tea and your judgment right ahead.
Speaker 1: Of Let me ask, do you think it was beneficial
Speaker 1: for you to get into this industry later in life
Speaker 1: versus if you were an eighteen year old or if
Speaker 1: you could go back without the knowledge, would eighteen year
Speaker 1: old Phoenix be able to handle what this industry is now?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So there's definitely you needed some level of maturity,
Speaker 1: you think, like I.
Speaker 2: Said, I was, I'm going to be completely honest with you.
Speaker 2: I was a very late bloomer. Sure, the way that
Speaker 2: I was, they would have chewed me up and spit
Speaker 2: me out at eighteen. Now I have lived a little
Speaker 2: bit of life, so I'm actually grateful for me that
Speaker 2: I'm entering at this stage in life. Anyway, I think
Speaker 2: the what was it, the stereotype is women in their forties,
Speaker 2: they're the best ones to sleep with because they're supposed
Speaker 2: to be more comfortable with themselves and their bodies and
Speaker 2: they don't give a shit, do you know, Like when
Speaker 2: you're in your twenties, you're like, oh god, I'm writing
Speaker 2: it as well. Out of place is my makeup running
Speaker 2: and my lips? That's how we think, That's how we
Speaker 2: would think. So it's like they're all like stressed out
Speaker 2: and you know, their assholes sucked up because they're stressed out,
Speaker 2: hoping they look that they can't relax enough to enjoy it.
Speaker 2: And I was that way too, so in my forties
Speaker 2: and my fifties.
Speaker 1: Now, no problem, right, right do you think? And you'd
Speaker 1: be surprised at the numbers people say, who got into
Speaker 1: this industry at eighteen years old? What do you think
Speaker 1: should be the age that people can get into porn?
Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. It would depend because some people
Speaker 2: are very very mature early on the individual. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I would have a certain number because it
Speaker 2: depends on too the kind of life you've lived.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, A lot of mainstream girls that I've talked
Speaker 1: to have said twenty one, and I'm a big like
Speaker 1: freedom guy. It's like if I can send four at eighteen,
Speaker 1: she should be able to fuck on camera if she
Speaker 1: wants to, you know what I mean. So it's it's
Speaker 1: but then you have the drinking thing where it's good
Speaker 1: to have a little bit of a buffer from you know,
Speaker 1: high school there. So yeah, okay, that's interesting. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people I've talked. I've talked to
Speaker 1: a lot of unequipped thirty year olds in this industry,
Speaker 1: and I've talked to eighteen year olds who I'm like,
Speaker 1: you make a schedule for all that. They're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's broken down on this Excel spreadsheet and I go, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: Calm down there, hot lady. So do you want to
Speaker 1: eventually shoot more mainstream stuff? Do you want to get
Speaker 1: to even like bigger stuff like do you want to
Speaker 1: shoot a brasser scene? Do you want to shoot a
Speaker 1: bangro scene? Or are you gonna hang in like the
Speaker 1: It's no insult because these are my favorite websites, the
Speaker 1: more like middle tier websites where it's like high quality
Speaker 1: but not as well known. I would say those two,
Speaker 1: you know, are like the top three, the ones you
Speaker 1: shot with, but their high quality. You look great, and
Speaker 1: they're phenomenally done. It's just I don't think it's as
Speaker 1: well known as a brasser. Do you want to shoot
Speaker 1: for like quote unquote the big boys up top?
Speaker 2: You know? For me? I actually, that's very funny you
Speaker 2: say something because I just got contacted today by a
Speaker 2: bigger production company, which I'm so quicky. For me, it's
Speaker 2: more like that was never my intention doing all of this.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious to me that it seems to be happening.
Speaker 2: Like I was like laughing on my Twitter x account
Speaker 2: that I got to be on this podcast with you,
Speaker 2: because I'm like, what the fuck? I have no occa,
Speaker 2: like why, But I'm like, I'll take it, just like
Speaker 2: when you get extra French fries at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the back, take it. I will take it. I'm thankful.
Speaker 2: But yeah, if it happens and an opportunity comes along
Speaker 2: with a type of sex that I want to do
Speaker 2: that I think will be awesome, then maybe yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm I'm not there for that. I'm here to fuck.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm here for.
Speaker 1: So the the current kind of view on the big
Speaker 1: Boy mainstream stuff is from people who I've interviewed talked
Speaker 1: about It's a great advertisement for your only fans. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm told those types of I mean, hey, you'll
Speaker 1: look beautiful, you look great, whatever, But slapping beautiful Phoenix
Speaker 1: angel across the top of that whoever it is that
Speaker 1: wants to book you is a great way for someone
Speaker 1: to go, oh shit, I got to check her out.
Speaker 1: So a lot of the girls are like, it's not
Speaker 1: so much the money, it's not even so much the scene.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's more this is a great marketing tool for me.
Speaker 1: You did you have any experience with marketing, advert to
Speaker 1: anything like that before you got into this, Believe it
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 2: My degree is in sociology with a minor in abnormal psychology. Okay,
Speaker 2: so my thing is I like how people think. I
Speaker 2: like finding out how people tick, you know, and I
Speaker 2: do love marketing. I've you know, research on that. I
Speaker 2: just I it could be yeah, But like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm super weird. The primary primary goal for me is
Speaker 2: what kind of sex am I going to have?
Speaker 1: I get that, and I respect that weird.
Speaker 2: I'm weird.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, no, no, it's not weird at all.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's and again I don't mean this as
Speaker 1: an insult. It's a it's naive in this sense. Every
Speaker 1: girl I interview who's been in the industry for a
Speaker 1: while is like, sex is five percent of my job.
Speaker 1: The other ninety five percent of it is posting the
Speaker 1: social media, doing dick ratings on only fans, doing this,
Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, I don't know why. Hey, if you're
Speaker 1: listening and you pay for dick ratings, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Good for you.
Speaker 2: Is that like some psychic ship.
Speaker 1: Rating R A T I N G.
Speaker 2: Dick.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at your life vein here and it seems
Speaker 1: like it. Okay, yeah, yeah, dick ratings, which again I
Speaker 1: don't I don't get necessarily, but hey, again, whatever you do.
Speaker 1: I'm not a foot guy either. But I asked you
Speaker 1: about your size nine shoes. What are you looking again?
Speaker 1: What are you looking to like produce yourself? Do you
Speaker 1: want to just collaborate with other OnlyFans people? Do you
Speaker 1: want to eventually get into the production space and shoot
Speaker 1: stuff yourself? You have? Okay, all right, I have.
Speaker 2: I have. Angelic Studios is already starting stuff. I'm working
Speaker 2: the website. They have a couple of bugs in there,
Speaker 2: but it looks really great. So we're working on that on.
Speaker 2: What we're trying to do is have a one stop
Speaker 2: shopping almost where you can come and see all the
Speaker 2: stuff I've done. And also there's going to be a
Speaker 2: link to all the guys that I've worked with. So
Speaker 2: if you like something like I've seen that I did
Speaker 2: with this guy over here, and you're wondering if he's like,
Speaker 2: does the same thing to other girls, so you can
Speaker 2: click on his picture and it'll take you to his site.
Speaker 2: So it kind of helps them out too, sure, But
Speaker 2: at the same time, what I'm trying to do, like
Speaker 2: I said, push my boundaries, So I'm kind of looking
Speaker 2: for ways that I can do that with people, like
Speaker 2: going outside a little bit, but not like out in public.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to go to prison over this shit.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, let me go in the backyard or something,
Speaker 2: you know, or you know, just stuff like that. Just
Speaker 2: trying to push push different kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: All right, we have to wrap this one up. Phoenix.
Speaker 1: You have been amazing to talk to. I think you.
Speaker 1: I think you are representative of the type of people
Speaker 1: we need in this industry in the sense that, sure,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of girls who come into this,
Speaker 1: and again, there's no insult to anyone. I don't give
Speaker 1: a shit whatever people want to do. If this is
Speaker 1: just a job to you, totally great. If it's just sex,
Speaker 1: totally great too. But so many girls come in this
Speaker 1: industry and they're like I used to ask this question money,
Speaker 1: sex fame, put them in order. For me, what three
Speaker 1: most important and least important to you? So let me
Speaker 1: ask you that money, sex fame. What do you want
Speaker 1: most important to least important?
Speaker 2: Sex? Money. I'm not really looking for money. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's nice, but I don't really need that.
Speaker 2: I don't need it same I do not honestly want it,
Speaker 2: which is stupid because if I do end up happening
Speaker 2: whatever like that, it's going to come. But I'm a
Speaker 2: little more reclusive with it. I like prints, like prints
Speaker 2: and shit. Yeah, so sex first, man, money not really fine.
Speaker 1: See, and the girls that I've interviewed before, it's almost
Speaker 1: the opposite. A lot of them are like those sexes whatever.
Speaker 1: And I like seeing people come into this industry who
Speaker 1: go I like sex, I like the joy of it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to become jaded by everything else. I
Speaker 1: am doing this because I have a great time doing it.
Speaker 1: And if the fame and the money comes along, that's
Speaker 1: great too. And you know, if you're looking to make
Speaker 1: it a job, those are very important. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, it really bleeds through onto a scene when
Speaker 1: you have someone who's just not interested in the sex
Speaker 1: portion of it. This is a hot girl. I'm hot,
Speaker 1: I'm gorgeous. Everyone wants to look at me and check
Speaker 1: it out. I'm a dead fish.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I hate that. Yeah, given, why would you?
Speaker 2: That's not fair, Like you're sending back land back like
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking your eyebrows, if you're beautiful, I'm not
Speaker 2: fucking your hairstyle. I'm fucking you. You lame there like
Speaker 2: that is the most turn off thing to me. Like
Speaker 2: a man. Sometimes men do the same thing. I've been
Speaker 2: with guys that you know, ripped to death talk you know,
Speaker 2: really great looking, great hair, and just like they're rubbing
Speaker 2: a little bit like, oh my god, did you come
Speaker 2: yet from what you haven't done anything? I lift my
Speaker 2: leg to shave my vagina in more positions than you've
Speaker 2: done to me, sir, zero stars like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no no. So I know.
Speaker 1: It's almost like working out of Starbucks but not liking
Speaker 1: the taste of coffee. Yeah yeah, yeah, Ladies and gentlemen,
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