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<v Speaker 1>You're watching brand new faces. I'm your host, Matt, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joined tonight by a very special guest. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>join me and welcoming to the show, the lovely Phoenix Angel. Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming on with me tonight. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you let me just start you off with

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<v Speaker 1>some real rude bluntness right off the back? My Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>OCD dick is so hard right now. It's raging, all

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<v Speaker 1>four and a half inches of it. And can I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you why?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because to find Phoenix Angel, all you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is go on any social media side. It seems Twitter, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>most importantly only fans. We want to direct people there

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<v Speaker 1>and it is the same user name across everything. Oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>it just makes my OCD dick so hard to see,

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<v Speaker 1>well to see. So if you want to find Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>and please we reckon and at least follow the free

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<v Speaker 1>ones bare minimum. If you don't have any money, follow

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<v Speaker 1>the free ones. But I want to direct you to

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<v Speaker 1>the only fans because we're going to talk about the content.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about what she makes, what she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be making, and this and that At Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>Angel three to oh one at Phoenix. Angel three to

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<v Speaker 1>oh one links in the episode description as always Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that I'm done babbling, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on with Midnight, I just want to let.

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<v Speaker 2>You know right now I'm choking on my own spit.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I just drank out of my water bottle. Go,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I've interviewed two major I've interviewed a lot of sportsts,

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<v Speaker 1>but there were two major ones Sarah J and sky Blue,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. And both of them took a drink just

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<v Speaker 1>as I made a joke and I start chulding. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can go around the rest of my life and say,

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<v Speaker 1>legendary AVN Hall of Famer Sarah J. I gagged her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I saw her. There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I love her. She is a goat about aidy pussy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I love that. First off, I interviewed so

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<v Speaker 1>many newer people coming in who are like, I never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of that, Who's Jenna Jamison blah blah. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's definitely dive into it. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you were one hundred percent right. I styn't know. I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've mostly watched her take dick, isn't it roight? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yea, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a goat there too, Yeah yeah yeah. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>start off with the third rudest question you can ask

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<v Speaker 1>a woman. First question is, obviously, are you pregnant? The

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<v Speaker 1>second question is how much do you weigh? Those are rude.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't bring those up. But number three I think

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of fair. Can I ask you, Phoenix, how

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<v Speaker 1>old you are?

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<v Speaker 2>I am fifty one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's loving it incredible. That is it's just because you look.

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<v Speaker 1>You look thirty four. Oh I'm not. I'm not blowing

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<v Speaker 1>smoke either. You look, yeah, thirty four, thirty five. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be ridiculous and be like twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>because won't be honest. None of us do.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I have nothing to do with that, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Good Jeane.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing to do with that, that's God, my parents and DNA.

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<v Speaker 2>I have nothing to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do with that. Lucked out there. Let me ask you

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<v Speaker 1>the second question then, So, growing up, I would watch

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<v Speaker 1>rap some music videos and this and that, and they

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<v Speaker 1>say she's thirty two six blah blah blah blah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, her measurements are those numbers. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what they mean, but it's great that those

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<v Speaker 1>measurements are her numbers. I came up with my own

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<v Speaker 1>measurements stat for this show that I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>little easier and a little more relevant to people listening

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<v Speaker 1>and who want to check you out and this and that.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, let me ask what is your height?

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<v Speaker 2>I am five five in that all important.

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<v Speaker 1>Half, okaye, going, you got to get that. I'm five

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<v Speaker 1>nine and three quarters and I will always take that

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<v Speaker 1>three quarters. Okay. Let me ask what size are your

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<v Speaker 1>shoes your feet?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the size nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, that's solid. And then the last one,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your cup size?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a common thing with women. I interview so

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<v Speaker 1>many women, and so many of them are like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any idea what size. I'm like, you were

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<v Speaker 1>in Glamour essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I think most of my adult life I've

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<v Speaker 2>been at thirty four. I think I was told b

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<v Speaker 2>I used to work in Victoria's Secret in the mall

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<v Speaker 2>in my twenties for a very short time, okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>someone said they asked me what was my size? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh shit, I work at Victoria's Secret and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how am I supposed to say these poor women?

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<v Speaker 2>So I found out it was a B. So they

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<v Speaker 2>say it goes up and down and as you get older,

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<v Speaker 2>so I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like working at Starbucks and being like, oh I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to smell a coffee. Okay, well I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It happened, It can happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't happen. I mean, you weren't like immediately interested,

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<v Speaker 1>like oh God, I gotta I gotta try this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. As soon as you got that job there, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so stressed out because I started during the

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas season and it was a really really popular mall,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of an upscale mall where I live. And my

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<v Speaker 2>very first day on the job, my very first customer

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<v Speaker 2>was Tony Braxton.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was gonna ask you, did you

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<v Speaker 2>remember if she was? And I'm like, well, the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing I thought of she short as shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh they all celebrities are right. I know that she's

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<v Speaker 1>like four.

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<v Speaker 2>Foot nothing, And I'm like, what, okay, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of did. I kind of did, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I would get really good at it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of fun for me to see the

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<v Speaker 2>guys come in, okay and they're all so pitiful. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I gotta get something from my girlfriend or

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<v Speaker 2>my wife is mad at me, and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>got you, bro, I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>I had. I had a similar awkward exchange, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was buying something from my mother, so it was really weird. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just kidding. I wasn't shopping in Victoria's Secret

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<v Speaker 1>for my mother. Oh please does that?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't judge you for that, king, Bro, do

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<v Speaker 2>what you gotta do whatever blows your skirt up.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you, Phoenix, what is your favorite part

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<v Speaker 1>of your body?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? That's an interesting question. Well outside of what my pussy,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, does that count? I mean, is it attached?

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<v Speaker 1>Is attached to your body? So I'm counting it personally?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you talking from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Neck now, I'm your whole body? I would say the

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<v Speaker 1>head is included in that, so yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see. Well, I've been told my ass is nice,

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<v Speaker 2>so I guess my ass.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wonderfully.

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<v Speaker 2>See.

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<v Speaker 1>More than anything in life, I want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see. Yeah, sure, no, pass, thanks, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I am raised Southern, so we have to

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<v Speaker 2>be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you can see.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, no, no, no, yep, I got it. I

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<v Speaker 1>am uh, I'm solid over here. I'm just gonna pause

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<v Speaker 1>this string share oh solid yeah yeah, yeah, only because

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<v Speaker 1>it only because of the OCD dick thing. Obviously, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a very professional person. LEVI ask Phoenix, what was your

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<v Speaker 1>entrance into this world? When did you chance? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>were you were? You're eighteen years old, where you're forty

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<v Speaker 1>two years old. When did you change from quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>vanilla to this is a lifestyle, this is a industry,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a whatever that I need to dive into.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this was a long time coming because I've

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<v Speaker 2>actually really sexual all in my life, but I've had

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of suppress it. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Totally makes sense? Let me let me pause. You let

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<v Speaker 1>me either have you sit back a little bit or

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<v Speaker 1>that's perfet or that's perfect or lean forward. Either way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just your head was cut off and it. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, it was a beautiful shot, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't your beautiful face. No, no, no, just there's the tits.

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<v Speaker 1>You had no eyes in this shot, but a beautiful mouth. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's get let me, let me, let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me reset you on that. What was your entrance

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<v Speaker 1>into the adult entertainment industry, lifestyle? Whatever it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is not the reason that people expect. I figured, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm going to explore my sexuality, I got permission.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband and I have an amazing sex life. But

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, you know, he's had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>pussy in his life, so he felt kind of bad

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<v Speaker 2>for me because I have such a strong sexuality, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was really embarrassed by it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, religious, can I ask religious thing at all? Or

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<v Speaker 1>family type? Family? Like what, I'm not asking for personal details, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but why were.

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<v Speaker 2>You actually both? You know, they always say good girls

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that, you know, and and you know women

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<v Speaker 2>with integrity and character don't like nasty, disrespectful sex. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, fine, fuck fine, So I basically almost

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<v Speaker 2>gave myself carpal tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>I just.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I get it, I get it, hey.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, but on the inside, I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people are talking about getting to first base, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>little hand over under the sweater action. I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>swinging from the chandelier with midgets and the thousand hours dressing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't, there's something wrong with me. I'm like, what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not supposed to think like this. You know, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a late bloomer. My dad was really strict,

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<v Speaker 2>so I didn't. My first date, I was was prom Wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I graduated a virgin hahaha. But I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I felt like I was doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the meantime, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>God, it's it's funny. I've done so many interviews where

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<v Speaker 1>it starts with I started in a religious family, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like a tightrope. You have to walk where

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<v Speaker 1>you want to protect your kids, put them on the

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote right path and this and that, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you just push too hard, they're going to go off

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<v Speaker 1>the edge. And it's not even a two foot drop.

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<v Speaker 1>They're coming into the grand canyon of gang bangs and

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<v Speaker 1>blow bangs and every other kind of bang you could

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<v Speaker 1>ever think of. Right, Uh, Okay, So you were you

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<v Speaker 1>you what age do you think when you was it

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<v Speaker 1>and then you guys went into the lifestyle. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is gonna sound like on the dark

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<v Speaker 2>side of a romantic my husband. It was when I

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<v Speaker 2>guess being with that many women, you gotta know how

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<v Speaker 2>to do a little bit. Sure. Sure, so she made

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<v Speaker 2>me squirk. Okay, I didn't know I could do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I loved forn by the way flurn since

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<v Speaker 2>my twenties. Holy shit, I love forn. But I always

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<v Speaker 2>my god, Like it was like the holy fucking girl,

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<v Speaker 2>Like how do you? How are you doing that? I

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<v Speaker 2>but it looks awesome. My husband made me squirk, and

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like hanging on to him for dear life,

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<v Speaker 2>like convulsely, like the heavens open up like fuck yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes total sense to me. Let me hit

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<v Speaker 1>you with something from the outside though. Here's what it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you square. Oh my god, it's wonderful, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you immediately go, what other kind of dick can I get?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Lord, okay, all right. So it was it was more

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<v Speaker 1>a case of not so because I think people who

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<v Speaker 1>are more vanilla and not in lifestyle and not in

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<v Speaker 1>this and that probably look at it and think, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying this. This is an outside perspective, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>she fucked her husband, not good enough, she needs other

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<v Speaker 1>new dick. Now that it almost sounds like he showed

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<v Speaker 1>you like a chef making a great meal, going, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what's possible, right, Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband opened the floodgates, gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>Well literally, yeah, literally.

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<v Speaker 2>And the coolest thing is my husband's very supportive. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not in the industry at all, super supportive. He felt

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind and the things that I've done, that

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<v Speaker 2>I had to suppress it for so long. I missed

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<v Speaker 2>out probably on a lot of great sex just for

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<v Speaker 2>that reason. So my husband and I are super coold.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, women go do your thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>always respect for each other, no feelings involved ever, but

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<v Speaker 2>get it out, do it while you can. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>been amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't, if this is too personal, just cut

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<v Speaker 1>me off of what was the who initiated the first conversation?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I again, just like religious kids, that's a tightrope

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<v Speaker 1>where I go, you and I are together and I

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<v Speaker 1>go Phoenix, you ever think about out like taking other

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<v Speaker 1>dis or no, and then you know and then if

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<v Speaker 1>you're immediately offended, I'm like, oh fuck, I fucked up?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>So what was was there an initial conversation? Did he

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<v Speaker 1>present to you dick first? Did you go we should

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<v Speaker 1>bring another girl in? Like? What was the dynamic there?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? This is also a reason that people would probably

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<v Speaker 2>not figure out. I figured, you know what they say,

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<v Speaker 2>why go out for burgers when you got steak at home?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>I have steak at home. So if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to do this and it's like really embrace my sexuality,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what I always say, then why ambers I

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<v Speaker 2>want some steak?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>So in order to get steak, you kind of have

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<v Speaker 2>to go where they serve it, okay, and where they

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<v Speaker 2>serve it is amateur and professional born.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, yes, so it was.

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<v Speaker 2>That important to me that I'm like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>do this. I'm going to do this all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, don't half ass it. You might as well, right, yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean that that I agree with you. But

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<v Speaker 1>that in and of itself is also a big step

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<v Speaker 1>because there's swinger parties, there's all the stuff that's private.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Hey, this, I can go and do my wife,

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<v Speaker 1>the midgets, the Thousand Island dressing, all the shit, and

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<v Speaker 1>no one ever has to know. I can go into

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<v Speaker 1>my job and be like, hey, Claire, how was your weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>This and that you just went full board? Now is

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<v Speaker 1>that because of a lack of community around you, like

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<v Speaker 1>a lack of a lifestyle community around you, or did

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<v Speaker 1>you just go, oh, are you that type that just

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<v Speaker 1>stu stomps on the gas and go let's fucking fly?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes yes, but this particular thing I actually tried that first.

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<v Speaker 2>I really did. That's why I came to the conclusion

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<v Speaker 2>that I did, because unfortunately, wouldn't you go to like

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<v Speaker 2>swing clubs, house parties, things like that, you don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know what you're gonna get. Sure you can I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can go on these sites and they'll say they

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<v Speaker 2>have certifications that they're really nice or they're respectful of

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<v Speaker 2>what the couples want or whatever like that, and they

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<v Speaker 2>could be you know, big or really good whatever. That's great,

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<v Speaker 2>but it can be few and far between, especially in

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<v Speaker 2>certain areas. So you just got to go with what's there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hated that. I hated that. So I was like, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm going to do this, let's do this. And

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<v Speaker 2>I did it, and I actually I'm glad that I

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<v Speaker 2>did because the sex is so much better. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>more comfortable with it, and I'm actually starting to let

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<v Speaker 2>go a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot more interesting. So that up there, ease. Okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm not questioning you on this because I believe

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<v Speaker 1>you if you say it is the sex better, because

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<v Speaker 1>everything I've heard how it's filmed, it's just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stop and go, stop and go, stop and go.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that wasn't your experience or it was, okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's still pleasurable for you, then it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. It's just the problem is you have to

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<v Speaker 2>have to learn how to have it and sells like

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<v Speaker 2>you have to learn how to stop and go like

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<v Speaker 2>you say, and for the guys, yes, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>come on command or within a very small range of time.

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<v Speaker 2>So it can be tough if you're into it and

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<v Speaker 2>they say, okay, you want to switch to something else,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're like behind in the camera light, two more minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>three more minutes, and you're like, okay, keep you on,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, I'm like okay, and I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to get into It's it's a little bit disconcerting,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have to get used to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, you get to get used to it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to kind of go somewhere else in your head.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like lifestyle wise, you're exactly right. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>only that you get to almost pick the person you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work with in a sense, you know, and this

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<v Speaker 1>and that, but also it's probably gonna be the most

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<v Speaker 1>professional sex you have in your life. Right. The only

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<v Speaker 1>downside is you now that you are on the internet,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like a real catch twenty two. But I

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<v Speaker 1>never thought about it that way. Lifestyle is just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I mean, porn is kind of like a more structured,

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<v Speaker 1>organized way of pursuing the lifestyle. And that's that's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at it scientifically, yeah, it can be.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure. Are you into any mainstream porn stars?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anyone that you have eyes on, like I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to work with? That? Male? Female? Doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't, you would not believe how many people

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<v Speaker 1>are in this industry, real high up and go. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know anyone else. And I'm like, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's totally reasonable too. But is there anyone you have

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<v Speaker 1>eyes on working with eventually down the line?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not sure because you know they say

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<v Speaker 2>that the porn stars they come and go, and I

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<v Speaker 2>watch a lot of amateur porn too. Sure, so I okay,

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<v Speaker 2>one name sticks out to me. Johnny Sins, Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why I say that is because across the board,

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<v Speaker 2>different women, different styles, different looks, sometimes different techniques, they

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<v Speaker 2>all say the same thing. He's amazing to work with. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>So that means he's real fluid with his sexuality, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really really down for.

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<v Speaker 1>So sure, all right, very cool. Let me get into

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<v Speaker 1>some of the likes dislikes, and then we'll get into stories, content,

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<v Speaker 1>this and that, whatever you like to do. First off,

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<v Speaker 1>are you into women? Yes, I can be, can be

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So I have I have been with women before, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sounds like to me, you're like a like

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<v Speaker 1>nine posy No, move my slider for me. Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>where you is gonna go?

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy thirty. Okay, I have to actually have I love

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<v Speaker 2>watching it. I love it, but sometimes I have to

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<v Speaker 2>have just it'll just hit me sometimes, like I have

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<v Speaker 2>to have a taste for it. Sure, Like sometimes like

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<v Speaker 2>you have a taste for a freaking Filet mignon or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. You know, you just sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 2>really have a taste for it. I'm like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I'm not a sushi guy, but

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while, a couple times a year ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do this. Let's do this. So I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally get it. Uh, let me do the cum

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<v Speaker 1>related questions. Do you swallow?

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<v Speaker 2>I will if I like you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you okay? Are you into facials?

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<v Speaker 2>I will if I like you?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>And?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, what do they call him cream pies? Internal guys

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<v Speaker 1>blowing inside you? I like to say that nicely down

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<v Speaker 1>by the docks, how about them? Are you into cream pies?

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<v Speaker 2>Very much? So?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So is that your preferred method of finishing.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on the person that I'm fucking at that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>If there is a lot of sexual chemistry and he

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<v Speaker 2>and I are just like really like he's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>fuck me through the floor, then I will swallow him

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<v Speaker 2>most definitely. I like it rough. Sometimes I do love

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<v Speaker 2>this the choky Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Let me ask what is your current working relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with anal?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have that anal before. Yeah, I practice it

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes by myself. I have like these really cool anal

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<v Speaker 2>plugs with Brianstones on them, So I do, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually want to push my boundary sexually, So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I want to just I want to do it

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<v Speaker 2>feels good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I get it. I get Well, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>where your boundaries have been expanded too. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask what have you done. I've looked it up and

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen you've shot with It's funny the number went

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<v Speaker 1>up and it's you don't look like either of the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was it MILFs over forty? Was it forty

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<v Speaker 1>forty plus miles forty plus milks? And then you were

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<v Speaker 1>on their fifty plus one too, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I've actually been on another site a couple

423
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<v Speaker 2>of years ago. I'll call it all over thirty.

424
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<v Speaker 1>That's so that's you're only doing age stuff to do

425
00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:53.079
<v Speaker 1>with me.

426
00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:55.400
<v Speaker 2>It's the powers that be that made that. Sure. I

427
00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:56.359
<v Speaker 2>have nothing to do with that.

428
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<v Speaker 1>I totally understand where there was all just single boy girls.

429
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, yeah, okay.

430
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<v Speaker 1>All right.

431
00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I did have one that was supposed to be a

432
00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:06.240
<v Speaker 2>girl girl, but the girl actually got the flu.

433
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, yeah, you don't want that on set. Yeah,

434
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not good. We're any with multiple guys.

435
00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:15.839
<v Speaker 2>I did some personal stuff with multiple guys.

436
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I was going to ask. Uh, what

437
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<v Speaker 1>is the most amount of people you have been in

438
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<v Speaker 1>in a setting with.

439
00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I've been to a house park, I've been to a

440
00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:33.200
<v Speaker 2>house party. Uh, let's see what is this May So

441
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.160
<v Speaker 2>it is me February. Okay, I went to a house

442
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:45.240
<v Speaker 2>party and I had a guy in my mouth, a

443
00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:49.200
<v Speaker 2>guy on this wood, a guy on this food, my

444
00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:53.519
<v Speaker 2>husband holding one leg up, another guy holding another leg up,

445
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:55.079
<v Speaker 2>and a guy going down on me.

446
00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

447
00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:05.519
<v Speaker 2>That was amazing. Sure, a little overwhelming, but amazing. So

448
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:06.400
<v Speaker 2>how many is that?

449
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Five? Five six? One? Like one leg? Tit tit mouth.

450
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<v Speaker 1>Let's see that's six I think I can. I say

451
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>this is not an insult at all. Actually, I'm very

452
00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>impressed with this. This is the that is the most

453
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:28.519
<v Speaker 1>feminist gang bang I've ever heard, by the way, I

454
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<v Speaker 1>just I just you picture. I picture a gang bang,

455
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and I picture a girl, and there's one of two ways.

456
00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Either she's she's dominating the guys. She's like you bring

457
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:38.880
<v Speaker 1>that dick over here, or she's the rag dog. You know,

458
00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:42.039
<v Speaker 1>she'd be tossed around and brought the guy and guy

459
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:45.759
<v Speaker 1>and you're just like, worship me. Zoom, cut off my

460
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:51.519
<v Speaker 1>other arm there, You're just like, worship me. Go ahead. Yeah,

461
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

462
00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I was lying on this little sofa thing and

463
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:01.440
<v Speaker 2>my husband got up and this guy just apparently he

464
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.400
<v Speaker 2>hadn't been watching me the whole house party. He came

465
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.359
<v Speaker 2>over and just started and before I could think, it

466
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:13.400
<v Speaker 2>was just like scrubbing bubbles. They were everywhere, and I'm like, oh, okay, Like,

467
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you it was awesome. But I actually I

468
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:28.640
<v Speaker 2>have a thing for three simes. Okay, the male male female.

469
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, I like watching I'll be honest with you.

470
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>There's a beautiful symmetry to them and I'm crazy, probably

471
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:40.319
<v Speaker 1>on the spectrum somewhere where I look at it and

472
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:42.720
<v Speaker 1>go like, that's just pretty. I just like that a

473
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.039
<v Speaker 1>girl getting dpeed and I'm like, pretty, look at that.

474
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>It's even everywhere around.

475
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<v Speaker 2>I have not been dpeyed yet. Okay, but I am

476
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:54.039
<v Speaker 2>so ready for that. I want that so bad. I

477
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>want to feel full.

478
00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, I normally just eat a big meal. That's me.

479
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 1>But I understand, uh, going into this lifestyle coming from

480
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>somewhat of a more sheltered past, were there any kinks

481
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:18.039
<v Speaker 1>or fetishes that you were extremely interested in trying once

482
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 1>you were liberated or felt the sexual liberation opening up

483
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.599
<v Speaker 1>the floodgates, if you will. Was there anything where you're like,

484
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing I want to try, or maybe

485
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>not even the first thing, but you're like, that's what

486
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I want to work my way up to. Oh well,

487
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>let's do. Let me let me do two. Answered, let

488
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.759
<v Speaker 1>me do about how to say it, let me do two.

489
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>When you first got in and then, is there anything

490
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:45.079
<v Speaker 1>new that you're like, Oh shit, now that I've been

491
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>in this a little bit, I want to try that too.

492
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I'm sure you're familiar with Adriana Chechi.

493
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Yep, of course.

494
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay. I've watched I like watching these podcasts about, you know,

495
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:01.880
<v Speaker 2>porn stars and everything. I saw one where she was

496
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:05.519
<v Speaker 2>talking about she had a particular move that she thinks

497
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:08.599
<v Speaker 2>she invented. I can't do it right at this moment,

498
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:15.319
<v Speaker 2>but it's where she's upside down on the bed like

499
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>this with her legs down. So I guess you can

500
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:22.079
<v Speaker 2>eat her out like that and she can turn her

501
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>head and suck you off at the same time.

502
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:28.839
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, Okay, I want to try that. Okay, all right?

503
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 1>And then is there any kind of kinkerfetish or anything

504
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:37.519
<v Speaker 1>else that you want to try film?

505
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Why?

506
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Like, is there any niche you want to work your

507
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:47.119
<v Speaker 1>way into or anything specific that's like, I don't know,

508
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I have never figured out the right way to word

509
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.519
<v Speaker 1>that I have, Like, what's your kinkerfetish that you didn't

510
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>know you liked and then you figured it out? But whatever,

511
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>what are you looking forward to? What's next?

512
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:03.759
<v Speaker 2>I guess for me, the nastier the better, Okay. So

513
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 2>I it's very difficult for me to tell people what's

514
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:14.279
<v Speaker 2>in my head because they probably wouldn't believe me. My

515
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:18.000
<v Speaker 2>husband says, I have an amazing poker face, because when

516
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 2>when I talk to people like I, you know, I

517
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>try to be nice, you knowlex people, and you wouldn't

518
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>know that I'll like the shit that I like. You know,

519
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:34.319
<v Speaker 2>you grab my hair and fucking fuck me in half.

520
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I would really love that. That would be fantastic for me.

521
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:40.640
<v Speaker 2>You think you can do that?

522
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could unless you showed me your

523
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>social media again, which obviously is Phoenix Angel three oh

524
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 1>one looks in the episode description, people make sure you

525
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:53.599
<v Speaker 1>go and follow her and sign up for the only

526
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>fans uh, slip those plugs in there. Okay, So look,

527
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.799
<v Speaker 1>I love the enthusiasm. I love the attitude. It's gung ho.

528
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>A lot of girls who are coming into the industry

529
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.839
<v Speaker 1>they'll have that same thing. And then I asked this

530
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>question and then they go, oh, nothing, nothing at all,

531
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm superwoman. Oh blah blahlah. Is there any kinker fetish

532
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.839
<v Speaker 1>that you have no interest in getting into? You're just

533
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:22.039
<v Speaker 1>like and I take out anything real extreme. I used

534
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to call this. I used to call this game sack

535
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>shit animals. Kids, those are out, Okay, thank you, yes

536
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>if if, Because inevitably, when I first started interview girls,

537
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, and they go, well, I wouldn't like

538
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>fuck a kid or anything. I'd be like, yeah, I know,

539
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I got it. You wouldn't be here if you would.

540
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>So we're taking those, we're taking those out of the equation.

541
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:50.119
<v Speaker 1>But is there anything else that's more normal within this industry,

542
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>more mainstream where you're just like, m not for me?

543
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So I think my chink is I personally love

544
00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 2>being dominated sexually. I love that, and I think my

545
00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 2>thing of pushing my boundary my chink would be pushing

546
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>myself as far as I can go within that domination. Okay,

547
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm looking forward to that.

548
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.039
<v Speaker 1>So what is something you have no interest in looking

549
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 1>forward to? Though? Like, is there a point where see

550
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 1>everyone always says that and you know, okay, but you

551
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>took out the stuff that I wasn't that's true. But

552
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll hit you with one that's not as common anymore,

553
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 1>was common a few years ago. And it can go

554
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>either way. And immediately when I say this, most women go, oh, yeah, no,

555
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do that either. Race play you know what?

556
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 2>That is so hot?

557
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Really?

558
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I actually watched by accident, then I got intrigued. I've

559
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>actually watched it's mostly European. I love European poor. They

560
00:31:58.519 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>have no shame.

561
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, yeah they I.

562
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Saw one, but it was like South Africa, so it

563
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 2>was it was extreme in the skin.

564
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Tones, if you will, sure, but it was.

565
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Something hot about that. I think, you know, it's the

566
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:19.680
<v Speaker 2>taboo thing that most people say a lot of people's

567
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>chinks are taboo totally that I'm I'm blajio, so you know,

568
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>black and Chinese.

569
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.839
<v Speaker 1>So that's I was going to ask that, but let

570
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:33.599
<v Speaker 1>me let me re re fix this real quick. Okay,

571
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:38.319
<v Speaker 1>was there? Okay, do you okay, do you know what

572
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>race I don't mean to say this insultingly if you do.

573
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what race play is? Though?

574
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 2>I think that's like role playing but with race.

575
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, well, kind of a little bit with like racism there,

576
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:56.319
<v Speaker 1>which is.

577
00:32:56.680 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Most I was thinking about, like like Matt slave type thing.

578
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you were talking about the Tour de France.

579
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I know what you were talking about.

580
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>So anytime I ask this and I always get the

581
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>response no, I'll try anything. I go, what about race play?

582
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.240
<v Speaker 1>And all these white girls go no, no, I'm not

583
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 1>doing that, no, thank you. I've interviewed a lot of

584
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>black performers black performers. Sometimes it goes either way. There's

585
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Avery Jane who's like, yo, you say anything around me,

586
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I will fucking beat the shit out of you. I'm

587
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 1>total respect to that. Love it, respect it, it's your choice.

588
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I've spoken to Anna Fox, who is a legend in

589
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 1>this industry.

590
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 2>I know that is.

591
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.319
<v Speaker 1>She's like, who gives a fuck, I don't care whatever

592
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>you want to do. You know, I'm filming a scene.

593
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:40.119
<v Speaker 1>We're acting here. I've spoken to black male performer John Legendary.

594
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:42.799
<v Speaker 1>He goes, yo, I don't care what a girl calls

595
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm inside of her, like, it doesn't matter.

596
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And I know it's just for the scene and whatever else.

597
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 1>But there are people in this industry who want that,

598
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>who get requests for that all the time. And it's

599
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>interesting to you said you were blazing. I don't know,

600
00:33:58.200 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>am I allowed to say that? Is that a thing

601
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm allowed to say?

602
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a shit about Okay, okay, Tiger Woods

603
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 2>with an acid boots. I'm Blazian, black and Asian. So

604
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.159
<v Speaker 2>for me, I've had a lot of men in my

605
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.159
<v Speaker 2>life where either if I've either slept with them or

606
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I actually dated them, I was their taboo because they

607
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I was for a lot of men, which is very

608
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>funny to me. I was the first non white girl

609
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 2>they ever dated. Okay, so it was to me, I

610
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>see how sexually exciting that is, and that, especially in

611
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>the South, something taboo like that. Sure, you have taboos

612
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:42.639
<v Speaker 2>everywhere and everything, like step mom, stepdad, you know you're uh,

613
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Speaker 2>was it your stepsister or whatever? That's the family taboo.

614
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:48.119
<v Speaker 1>It's funny.

615
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't care.

616
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 1>I apologize for always referencing former interviews. It's just you.

617
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.199
<v Speaker 1>You spark my memory on an a interview gauge who

618
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>was a also legendary porn star from the early two thousands,

619
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and she's from our Kansas. She's like a four foot ten,

620
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, little spinner girl who's just always had a

621
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>mouth on her. Loved her. She was phenomenal, amazing to

622
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>get on. And uh, I had her on and I

623
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 1>asked the same type of stuff and she said, you know, Arkansas. Again,

624
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>no offense. I'm from New Jersey. I think everything below

625
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Delaware is like the South, not from Alabama. But she goes,

626
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>she goes. I had no problem shooting an inter racial scene.

627
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, did you worry about catching any shit

628
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>back home with racism and this and that. She goes.

629
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 1>The only thing I want to do is any of

630
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the step brother stepsister shit because that is too close

631
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to what's actually happening back in my hometown. Don't give

632
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.679
<v Speaker 1>her a fuck if they I don't give a fuck

633
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>if they think I fucked a black eye, it don't

634
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>matter to me. That's fun Yeah, she was. She was

635
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 1>very funny. So let me ask this, do you when

636
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you get quote unquote fetishized in that way, are you

637
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:58.679
<v Speaker 1>offended by that? Would it have to be how extreme

638
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the person takes it, Like if they were like, oh god,

639
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I just love your Blazian body all the time, You're

640
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>so blazingly beautiful that I mean, is there some point

641
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.760
<v Speaker 1>where you'd be like, yo, I'm more than just a

642
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>beautiful Blasian girl.

643
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So I have learned over my life that you

644
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 2>have to learn how to separate sex and emotion. So

645
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>one of the things I think in that type of situation,

646
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 2>you probably have to talk about it first, you know,

647
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 2>over a drink or shot whatever like that. It's like, look,

648
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.199
<v Speaker 2>me saying X Y and Z or doing x Y

649
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.800
<v Speaker 2>and Z gets my dick hard. As fucked and I

650
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:43.679
<v Speaker 2>love it, And I don't mean anything to you. It's

651
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:47.440
<v Speaker 2>not against you. This is my cheek. Are you cool

652
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:49.960
<v Speaker 2>with that? Are you cool? Is meant? Nothing? Is? Can

653
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 2>you handle that? Are you good? I respect that because

654
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:58.119
<v Speaker 2>everybody has a fucking chink somewhere in there. We're all freaks.

655
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Was just at what level you are? So?

656
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure your level is high, it sounds like, but

657
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:09.119
<v Speaker 1>what are some of your what? What? What really gets

658
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 1>you going?

659
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 2>I like to be nasty with someone, like really nasty

660
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:21.320
<v Speaker 2>with someone, which is something that I'm getting ready to

661
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.960
<v Speaker 2>put more of on film because I used to be

662
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 2>so embarrassed by it. But my level of nasty is

663
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:33.079
<v Speaker 2>like spit in my mouth and then I'll suck your

664
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>dick with it. I want you like fuck me in

665
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.679
<v Speaker 2>my ass and then let me suck it right afterwards.

666
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love it. I love it. I

667
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>love it. I want to be deep. I want to

668
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.159
<v Speaker 2>hold somebody in my mouth and I want to be

669
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:49.159
<v Speaker 2>coming to where it's like I'm crying because I'm coming

670
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:49.599
<v Speaker 2>so hard.

671
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Are you just an incredible dirty talker or

672
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 1>does that okay? All right?

673
00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>My each and I have I have been with people

674
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:03.599
<v Speaker 2>that don't are not really talkers, which is fine.

675
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Sure you should know you got the.

676
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Strong, silent type or what have you. Yeah, if you

677
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:12.800
<v Speaker 2>don't talk that much, I might talk a little bit

678
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:17.119
<v Speaker 2>for you. Sure, but yeah, I like talking. That's part

679
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 2>of the fun.

680
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 1>It's it always again with some of the newer girls

681
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 1>I interview, it's always that that when needing to break through,

682
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>where they're like, okay, I'm not I'm alright showing my

683
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.079
<v Speaker 1>body off, I'm alright fucking on camera this and that,

684
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:34.800
<v Speaker 1>but saying like, you know, cram that dick in my

685
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.559
<v Speaker 1>tight ass, they go like, oh, I don't know if

686
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I can actually say those words. And I always just

687
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>find it funny watching that evolution of not a dirty talker.

688
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.559
<v Speaker 1>And then I'll see their scene two years after I

689
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:49.400
<v Speaker 1>talk to them and they're like, ah, fuck, make it out.

690
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, there she goes, she learned it.

691
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:56.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you. It's I personally think that women are

692
00:38:56.559 --> 00:39:00.519
<v Speaker 2>taught a certain way, and it's so ingrained and who

693
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:03.559
<v Speaker 2>they are. I don't think a lot of women realize

694
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 2>that they have a circle of people standing around their

695
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:11.840
<v Speaker 2>bed judging how they fuck. And I realized that and

696
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:16.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, like, like, you can't. If you do certain

697
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.199
<v Speaker 2>sex acts, you're you know, you're a horror whatever like that,

698
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:23.039
<v Speaker 2>if you blow or you do whatever, you have anal

699
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:27.760
<v Speaker 2>sex whatever. I'm like, you know what, you see this

700
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 2>right here? This is called the bill. Your name is

701
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:34.599
<v Speaker 2>on it, So fuck you, and that's what I want

702
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.559
<v Speaker 2>to do. I'm going to do it.

703
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The judgment cast by people sitting in cubicles telling

704
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>you you're not living your life the right way as

705
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>they soak up led lights and I did that for

706
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>plenty of time and I still do that from home now.

707
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:55.800
<v Speaker 1>But the judgment people will cast on performers is, look,

708
00:39:56.199 --> 00:40:02.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, mind your own business. Whatever people do, buy themselves.

709
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I always say this, as long as there's no kids

710
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:08.559
<v Speaker 1>or dogs in the bedroom, like we're good, we are good.

711
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:11.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, mind your own business. Let them live their life.

712
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>But you know you're gonna catch it online. Everyone always

713
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:18.159
<v Speaker 1>does because there's no fine. It's like people out there right,

714
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:19.440
<v Speaker 1>it's fine.

715
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean you know what, I am not stupid. I

716
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 2>know that reality is a possibility here and that people

717
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 2>are not gonna like everything that you do, especially getting

718
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:34.320
<v Speaker 2>into this industry. I've spent my entire life suppressing my

719
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:35.840
<v Speaker 2>sexuality for what?

720
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>No right?

721
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Right? So I'm just like, basically, okay, if you don't

722
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:45.320
<v Speaker 2>like it, I understand none beloved for you have a

723
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.679
<v Speaker 2>great day. You don't have to watch. I'm gonna go

724
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:50.360
<v Speaker 2>over here and get been off for this mathooning and

725
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:52.280
<v Speaker 2>fuck within an inch of my life and you go

726
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:56.119
<v Speaker 2>back to your cup of tea and your judgment right ahead.

727
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Of Let me ask, do you think it was beneficial

728
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>for you to get into this industry later in life

729
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 1>versus if you were an eighteen year old or if

730
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:13.119
<v Speaker 1>you could go back without the knowledge, would eighteen year

731
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>old Phoenix be able to handle what this industry is now?

732
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:18.039
<v Speaker 2>No?

733
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, So there's definitely you needed some level of maturity,

734
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 1>you think, like I.

735
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:26.679
<v Speaker 2>Said, I was, I'm going to be completely honest with you.

736
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I was a very late bloomer. Sure, the way that

737
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I was, they would have chewed me up and spit

738
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.920
<v Speaker 2>me out at eighteen. Now I have lived a little

739
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 2>bit of life, so I'm actually grateful for me that

740
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:44.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm entering at this stage in life. Anyway, I think

741
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 2>the what was it, the stereotype is women in their forties,

742
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:51.320
<v Speaker 2>they're the best ones to sleep with because they're supposed

743
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.599
<v Speaker 2>to be more comfortable with themselves and their bodies and

744
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 2>they don't give a shit, do you know, Like when

745
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:59.239
<v Speaker 2>you're in your twenties, you're like, oh god, I'm writing

746
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.079
<v Speaker 2>it as well. Out of place is my makeup running

747
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 2>and my lips? That's how we think, That's how we

748
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.000
<v Speaker 2>would think. So it's like they're all like stressed out

749
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and you know, their assholes sucked up because they're stressed out,

750
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 2>hoping they look that they can't relax enough to enjoy it.

751
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.119
<v Speaker 2>And I was that way too, so in my forties

752
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and my fifties.

753
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Now, no problem, right, right do you think? And you'd

754
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>be surprised at the numbers people say, who got into

755
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.719
<v Speaker 1>this industry at eighteen years old? What do you think

756
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:35.880
<v Speaker 1>should be the age that people can get into porn?

757
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting question. It would depend because some people

758
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:44.679
<v Speaker 2>are very very mature early on the individual. I don't

759
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:46.519
<v Speaker 2>know if I would have a certain number because it

760
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:48.559
<v Speaker 2>depends on too the kind of life you've lived.

761
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, A lot of mainstream girls that I've talked

762
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 1>to have said twenty one, and I'm a big like

763
00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:00.679
<v Speaker 1>freedom guy. It's like if I can send four at eighteen,

764
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>she should be able to fuck on camera if she

765
00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 1>wants to, you know what I mean. So it's it's

766
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:09.840
<v Speaker 1>but then you have the drinking thing where it's good

767
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.039
<v Speaker 1>to have a little bit of a buffer from you know,

768
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:17.079
<v Speaker 1>high school there. So yeah, okay, that's interesting. Yeah, I agree.

769
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:18.599
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people I've talked. I've talked to

770
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 1>a lot of unequipped thirty year olds in this industry,

771
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and I've talked to eighteen year olds who I'm like,

772
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you make a schedule for all that. They're like, oh yeah,

773
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:29.960
<v Speaker 1>it's broken down on this Excel spreadsheet and I go, whoa, whoa, whoa.

774
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Calm down there, hot lady. So do you want to

775
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:40.519
<v Speaker 1>eventually shoot more mainstream stuff? Do you want to get

776
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:42.119
<v Speaker 1>to even like bigger stuff like do you want to

777
00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:44.559
<v Speaker 1>shoot a brasser scene? Do you want to shoot a

778
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>bangro scene? Or are you gonna hang in like the

779
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.719
<v Speaker 1>It's no insult because these are my favorite websites, the

780
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 1>more like middle tier websites where it's like high quality

781
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 1>but not as well known. I would say those two,

782
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, are like the top three, the ones you

783
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.679
<v Speaker 1>shot with, but their high quality. You look great, and

784
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.119
<v Speaker 1>they're phenomenally done. It's just I don't think it's as

785
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 1>well known as a brasser. Do you want to shoot

786
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:12.199
<v Speaker 1>for like quote unquote the big boys up top?

787
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:18.559
<v Speaker 2>You know? For me? I actually, that's very funny you

788
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.800
<v Speaker 2>say something because I just got contacted today by a

789
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:28.679
<v Speaker 2>bigger production company, which I'm so quicky. For me, it's

790
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:34.639
<v Speaker 2>more like that was never my intention doing all of this.

791
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:39.559
<v Speaker 2>It's hilarious to me that it seems to be happening.

792
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I was like laughing on my Twitter x account

793
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.719
<v Speaker 2>that I got to be on this podcast with you,

794
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:51.599
<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, what the fuck? I have no occa,

795
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.079
<v Speaker 2>like why, But I'm like, I'll take it, just like

796
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:56.920
<v Speaker 2>when you get extra French fries at the bottom of

797
00:44:56.960 --> 00:45:02.760
<v Speaker 2>the back, take it. I will take it. I'm thankful.

798
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:08.760
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if it happens and an opportunity comes along

799
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:12.760
<v Speaker 2>with a type of sex that I want to do

800
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:17.079
<v Speaker 2>that I think will be awesome, then maybe yeah, yeah,

801
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:21.039
<v Speaker 2>but I'm I'm not there for that. I'm here to fuck.

802
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:22.119
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm here for.

803
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>So the the current kind of view on the big

804
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Boy mainstream stuff is from people who I've interviewed talked

805
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:36.559
<v Speaker 1>about It's a great advertisement for your only fans. That's

806
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.280
<v Speaker 1>what I'm told those types of I mean, hey, you'll

807
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>look beautiful, you look great, whatever, But slapping beautiful Phoenix

808
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 1>angel across the top of that whoever it is that

809
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 1>wants to book you is a great way for someone

810
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to go, oh shit, I got to check her out.

811
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:52.079
<v Speaker 1>So a lot of the girls are like, it's not

812
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>so much the money, it's not even so much the scene.

813
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's more this is a great marketing tool for me.

814
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 1>You did you have any experience with marketing, advert to

815
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:07.800
<v Speaker 1>anything like that before you got into this, Believe it

816
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:08.400
<v Speaker 1>or not.

817
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 2>My degree is in sociology with a minor in abnormal psychology. Okay,

818
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.800
<v Speaker 2>so my thing is I like how people think. I

819
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:21.760
<v Speaker 2>like finding out how people tick, you know, and I

820
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:25.599
<v Speaker 2>do love marketing. I've you know, research on that. I

821
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:30.280
<v Speaker 2>just I it could be yeah, But like I said,

822
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm super weird. The primary primary goal for me is

823
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:36.679
<v Speaker 2>what kind of sex am I going to have?

824
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I get that, and I respect that weird.

825
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm weird.

826
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, No, no, no, it's not weird at all.

827
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:45.800
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's and again I don't mean this as

828
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:50.440
<v Speaker 1>an insult. It's a it's naive in this sense. Every

829
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:52.639
<v Speaker 1>girl I interview who's been in the industry for a

830
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:56.039
<v Speaker 1>while is like, sex is five percent of my job.

831
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>The other ninety five percent of it is posting the

832
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>social media, doing dick ratings on only fans, doing this,

833
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:06.639
<v Speaker 1>doing that. Yeah, I don't know why. Hey, if you're

834
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>listening and you pay for dick ratings, I appreciate that.

835
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Good for you.

836
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Is that like some psychic ship.

837
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Rating R A T I N G.

838
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<v Speaker 2>Dick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at your life vein here and it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it. Okay, yeah, yeah, dick ratings, which again I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't get necessarily, but hey, again, whatever you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a foot guy either. But I asked you

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<v Speaker 1>about your size nine shoes. What are you looking again?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you looking to like produce yourself? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to just collaborate with other OnlyFans people? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to eventually get into the production space and shoot

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<v Speaker 1>stuff yourself? You have? Okay, all right, I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I have. Angelic Studios is already starting stuff. I'm working

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<v Speaker 2>the website. They have a couple of bugs in there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it looks really great. So we're working on that on.

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<v Speaker 2>What we're trying to do is have a one stop

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<v Speaker 2>shopping almost where you can come and see all the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff I've done. And also there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>link to all the guys that I've worked with. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you like something like I've seen that I did

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<v Speaker 2>with this guy over here, and you're wondering if he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>does the same thing to other girls, so you can

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<v Speaker 2>click on his picture and it'll take you to his site.

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<v Speaker 2>So it kind of helps them out too, sure, But

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, what I'm trying to do, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, push my boundaries, So I'm kind of looking

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<v Speaker 2>for ways that I can do that with people, like

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<v Speaker 2>going outside a little bit, but not like out in public.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to go to prison over this shit.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, let me go in the backyard or something,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or you know, just stuff like that. Just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to push push different kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have to wrap this one up. Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been amazing to talk to. I think you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you are representative of the type of people

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<v Speaker 1>we need in this industry in the sense that, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of girls who come into this,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, there's no insult to anyone. I don't give

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<v Speaker 1>a shit whatever people want to do. If this is

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<v Speaker 1>just a job to you, totally great. If it's just sex,

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<v Speaker 1>totally great too. But so many girls come in this

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<v Speaker 1>industry and they're like I used to ask this question money,

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<v Speaker 1>sex fame, put them in order. For me, what three

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<v Speaker 1>most important and least important to you? So let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you that money, sex fame. What do you want

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<v Speaker 1>most important to least important?

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<v Speaker 2>Sex? Money. I'm not really looking for money. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's nice, but I don't really need that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need it same I do not honestly want it,

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<v Speaker 2>which is stupid because if I do end up happening

888
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<v Speaker 2>whatever like that, it's going to come. But I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little more reclusive with it. I like prints, like prints

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<v Speaker 2>and shit. Yeah, so sex first, man, money not really fine.

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<v Speaker 1>See, and the girls that I've interviewed before, it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite. A lot of them are like those sexes whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like seeing people come into this industry who

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<v Speaker 1>go I like sex, I like the joy of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to become jaded by everything else. I

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<v Speaker 1>am doing this because I have a great time doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the fame and the money comes along, that's

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<v Speaker 1>great too. And you know, if you're looking to make

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<v Speaker 1>it a job, those are very important. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, it really bleeds through onto a scene when

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<v Speaker 1>you have someone who's just not interested in the sex

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<v Speaker 1>portion of it. This is a hot girl. I'm hot,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gorgeous. Everyone wants to look at me and check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. I'm a dead fish.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I hate that. Yeah, given, why would you?

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<v Speaker 2>That's not fair, Like you're sending back land back like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not fucking your eyebrows, if you're beautiful, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>fucking your hairstyle. I'm fucking you. You lame there like

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<v Speaker 2>that is the most turn off thing to me. Like

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<v Speaker 2>a man. Sometimes men do the same thing. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>with guys that you know, ripped to death talk you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really great looking, great hair, and just like they're rubbing

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit like, oh my god, did you come

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<v Speaker 2>yet from what you haven't done anything? I lift my

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<v Speaker 2>leg to shave my vagina in more positions than you've

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<v Speaker 2>done to me, sir, zero stars like no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no no no. So I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like working out of Starbucks but not liking

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<v Speaker 1>the taste of coffee. Yeah yeah, yeah, Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>guess night Phoenix Angel. You can find her everywhere cross

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<v Speaker 1>all social media, Twitter, Instagram at Phoenix Angel three oh one.

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<v Speaker 1>Most importantly, we're gonna send you to the only fans

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<v Speaker 1>at Phoenix Angel three oh one links to everything in

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<v Speaker 1>the episode description Phoenix, thank you so much for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on with me tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I enjoyed it on Honor, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Buy