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<v Speaker 1>But joining me now.

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<v Speaker 2>Did a great job on the broadcast, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best to ever do it to Utah Staties, a Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl champ. Robert Turbin on the Drive on a Thursday, Robert,

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<v Speaker 2>how you doing, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, what's up man? I'm doing great. Thanks for having

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<v Speaker 3>me on.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate the time. So give us an update on

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing now. It seems like you're really busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, you really go to the broadcasting stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>How busy does that keep you? And what else do

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<v Speaker 2>you have going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I appreciate that very much. It means a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I started calling games for CBS in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two, and you know, I've just done my best

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<v Speaker 3>to try to build from there. My first year I

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<v Speaker 3>did eight games, and last season I did eleven, and

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<v Speaker 3>this year I've got a full slate of thirteen, including

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<v Speaker 3>the Conference USA championship game at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>So not looking too far ahead, but certainly excited about

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<v Speaker 3>that and all these opportunities. I'm doing a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of what you're doing as well, a radio action with

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<v Speaker 3>Serious XM. I've got two of my own shows, and

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<v Speaker 3>one of those shows being the Tailgate show NFL Radio

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<v Speaker 3>Channel eighty eight every Sunday morning at nine Eastern times.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm obviously I'm in California, so I got to

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<v Speaker 3>be up early and get you know, got a big

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<v Speaker 3>cup of coffee to get the energy right to be

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<v Speaker 3>fired up to do that. You know, still affiliated with

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<v Speaker 3>the Seahawks and work about a game a month for

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<v Speaker 3>their broadcast and uh and yeah, man, you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to build my broadcasting career as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>The last thing I'll say is you're in Sacramento where

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<v Speaker 3>I live now ten or thirteen CBS, I'll do I'll

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<v Speaker 3>do postgame analysis for them in regard to the forty

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<v Speaker 3>nineties and Raiders, just because that's the market here in

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<v Speaker 3>this in this region of California. So it's been a

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<v Speaker 3>fun ride, man, and just doing my belt the best

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<v Speaker 3>to build it every year.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, man, good stuff, good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, best of luck, and if you ever want to

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<v Speaker 2>hop on to get some reps, of course, I always

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<v Speaker 2>would love to interview a former Super Bowl champ.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have a home here.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wonder, Robert, what your impressions were last week

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<v Speaker 2>of the Utah Utah State game, and specifically what you

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<v Speaker 2>saw from Utah's young quarterback to the true freshman, Isaac Wilson.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think Isaac showed that he's certainly going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the future for Utah at quarterback. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, like Kyle Whittingham, is big on competition, so

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<v Speaker 3>he certainly won't be just handed the keys to the

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<v Speaker 3>car when that opportunity positions itself. He'll have to earn it.

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<v Speaker 3>But he certainly displayed a lot of good things against

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<v Speaker 3>Utah State last weekend. And I think the best part

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<v Speaker 3>about his game, you know, outside of the physicality that

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<v Speaker 3>he brings, you know from a throwing standpoint, being actor

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that, but you know, I thought, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>his ability to be able to fight through adversity was

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<v Speaker 3>a thing that stood out to me. You know. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't like he played great against Baylor the week before

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<v Speaker 3>when he got his opportunity, and it was a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a slow start against Utah State, but he

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<v Speaker 3>overcame that and you really saw him in the pocket

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<v Speaker 3>look left, pump, fake, come back right, throw the ball

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<v Speaker 3>on time, accurate, and he just started doing that throughout

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<v Speaker 3>the entirety, well not the entire game, but mostly in

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<v Speaker 3>the second half. But you started to see a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of it really that back half of the second quarter

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<v Speaker 3>where he just boom a little shoulder shake that touchdown,

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<v Speaker 3>he threw the money parks in the end zone. He

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<v Speaker 3>completely faked out Ake Larson with just a little slight

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<v Speaker 3>pump fake to the right, I mean just a little

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<v Speaker 3>shoulder and then boom came back to his left and

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<v Speaker 3>was on target to money Parks in the end zone

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<v Speaker 3>right there for the touchdowns. So just seeing those things

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<v Speaker 3>developed throughout the game was the most impressive part. Think

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<v Speaker 3>he's got a really blad future.

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<v Speaker 2>So away from the quarterback position, what else on the

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll get to the Utah State stuff in a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>but what else on the Utah side most stood out

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<v Speaker 2>to you? I mean, they were able to run the

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<v Speaker 2>football with Makai Bernard. I thought Utah State looked pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good early. There was a lot of nervous youth fans

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<v Speaker 2>after that early start from Utah State. But other than

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<v Speaker 2>Isaac Wilson, Robert, what were some of your takeaways from

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<v Speaker 2>watching Utah play last week?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, one of the guys that stood out to

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<v Speaker 3>me on the defensive side for Utah was Cameron Calhoun.

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<v Speaker 3>You're talking about a freshman with not a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>playing experience obviously at the you know, at the FBS level,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know there were some moments in there where

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<v Speaker 3>he got beat. But again, it was just this resilient

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<v Speaker 3>mentality that you saw throughout a number of guys in

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<v Speaker 3>the game. You recognized that Jamiah Vaughn, who was obviously

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<v Speaker 3>the veteran corner for Utah, he was matched up with

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Royals throughout the entire game before he got injured.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was a game plan for Kyle Waitingham and

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<v Speaker 3>Utah going into the game, and Cameron Holme was gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have to supplement that. But it was gonna be a

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<v Speaker 3>challenge for him because, uh he's just a freshman and

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<v Speaker 3>Utah State like to put the ball in the air,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought he answered the call really well. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's a guy that stood out to me, uh in

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<v Speaker 3>in that football game. Van Fillinger, I thought, did a

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<v Speaker 3>nice job consistently putting pressure on the quarterback, particularly in

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<v Speaker 3>the second half, getting his hands up and knocking the

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<v Speaker 3>ball down. He's a he's a veteran player. He's been

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<v Speaker 3>around this program a while, but I never got to

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<v Speaker 3>see him play, you know, up close like that. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought he was I thought he was really impressive. And

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<v Speaker 3>so those are two guys that you know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>on the defensive side. And then and then you mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the run game speaks for itself with Mattie

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<v Speaker 3>Bernard and Mike Mitchell, just their ability to stay with it,

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<v Speaker 3>uh and uh be able to close out games when

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<v Speaker 3>they need to. They've done that consistently so far. A

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<v Speaker 3>little bit a little a little disappointed in Jon Stanley,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll lad, but I visit a kid though, that has

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<v Speaker 3>a great potential. I thought he just had a bat.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean every now and then, he just had a bat.

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<v Speaker 3>You have an off day, and I thought Stanley just

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<v Speaker 3>had an off day. A couple of drops, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>his seat weren't under him, stumbling over his own feet,

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<v Speaker 3>something he wouldn't really see normally from him. But still

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<v Speaker 3>a young player, a lot of potential, and this team

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<v Speaker 3>has a lot of potential to go for in a

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<v Speaker 3>Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>So your alma mater looked ready to go early. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Bryson Barnes played down here for a for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of different years, so you know he knows the scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows the personnel and threw a couple of picks.

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<v Speaker 2>But did you believe early on when Utah State took

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<v Speaker 2>that lead that we were potentially in for an upset?

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<v Speaker 2>What was your what was your confidence lever early on

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<v Speaker 2>when Utah State came out and punched you ty right

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<v Speaker 2>in the mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I expected that. I expected Utah State to come

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<v Speaker 3>out fast and you know, sort of have this uh

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this energy about them to start the football game.

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<v Speaker 3>The crowd was into it. There's a there's quite a

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<v Speaker 3>few a few players who transferred from Utah and who

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<v Speaker 3>are now at Utah State. So I sort of expected

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<v Speaker 3>them to have a fast start. And the other thing too,

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<v Speaker 3>was I mean, think about how the game finished for

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<v Speaker 3>Utah against Baylor. I mean the second half, you could

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<v Speaker 3>almost even when good things are happening, after camp Horizon

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<v Speaker 3>was injured, you could really hear like a pit. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the energy was just out of the stadium. The energy

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<v Speaker 3>was out of the sideline. They were able to finish

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<v Speaker 3>the game, but it kind of felt like they just

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<v Speaker 3>sort of squeezed by to finish it and there was

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<v Speaker 3>no energy. So it trickled into the start of Utah

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<v Speaker 3>State where Utah just didn't have the energy there to

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<v Speaker 3>start the game. And we spoke to converting hand before

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean, obviously Utah's never overlooking anybody, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't like Utah State is a team anymore that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to be honest about it, that Utah wants

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<v Speaker 3>to play year in, year out anymore. You know, they've

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<v Speaker 3>they've moved on to different things and they have different

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<v Speaker 3>aspirations for their program, and so you know, from that standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe there was some you know, just that

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<v Speaker 3>the slow start. I think maybe some slight overlooking, especially

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<v Speaker 3>with the Big Twelve opening, the Big Twelve coming up

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<v Speaker 3>this week against Hey, maybe looking overlooking the Utah State

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like Utah was going to sign their stride

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<v Speaker 3>as they did, and sign a way to pull it

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<v Speaker 3>out in the second half. As they did. They took

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<v Speaker 3>the lead before the end of the first half, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I felt like it was it was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of going to be their games from there. But I

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<v Speaker 3>do give a lot of credit to Utah State. They

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<v Speaker 3>did get it within seven right before they start of

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth quarter, and so they fought, but Utah was

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<v Speaker 3>just the better team that day.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Russeul Feizon pulled his best Robert Turbin and

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<v Speaker 2>went for a buck fifteen against a really good defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what your take is, Robert on why Utah

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<v Speaker 2>staid was able to find so much success on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground against a defense.

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<v Speaker 1>That typically is very, very very good against the run.

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<v Speaker 2>And then what Utah needs to do better coming up

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday against the guy who won the dok Walker

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oli Gordon, That's.

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<v Speaker 3>A good question. I got a chance to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>razull Fazar before the game, and you know, I just

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<v Speaker 3>Toilet said, look, you know, if you want to have

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<v Speaker 3>some success today against this defense, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 3>to attack these guys downhill, north and south. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the minute you can get north, the second can get

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<v Speaker 3>more get north, and that is going to sort of

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<v Speaker 3>be the formula for you and this run game to

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<v Speaker 3>have success. And I think he did that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think this in general for Utah State was able to

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<v Speaker 3>have some success against Utah because they they played the

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<v Speaker 3>game vertical. Utah State, when you watch him, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the things that they like to do offensively is

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<v Speaker 3>east and west. It's lateral it's the quick screens out

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<v Speaker 3>wide to the wide receivers down the sideline. Hopefully they

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<v Speaker 3>can make a guy miss and make a make a play,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Down the fields, it's the edge runs to

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<v Speaker 3>the running back trying to get to the outside, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, hopefully they're you know, they can beat them

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<v Speaker 3>with speed and and I just felt like that wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>going to do anything impactful against Utah and it didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>H And so because they had a more vertical game plan,

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<v Speaker 3>that felt like, you know, they they had some success.

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<v Speaker 3>So Utah is going to have to really sort of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, shape up a little bit within the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of their defense. I think they're strong on the edges,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were you know, Utah State was able to

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have to be a little bit more stout, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>commit more you know, people to the box. It's difficult

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<v Speaker 3>to do that against Utah State because you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>I know you don't live here anymore, Robert, but I

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<v Speaker 2>am curious to get your take on how connected you

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<v Speaker 2>remain to Utah State and other Utah State alums, and

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<v Speaker 2>what your reaction is and what the reaction is of

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<v Speaker 2>great players like yourself who played here and stay connected

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<v Speaker 2>to the program. About the chaos that ensued and logan

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<v Speaker 2>this offseason, Austin Blake Anderson his job, Jerry Bovee and

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<v Speaker 1>And Nate Dryling, while on a European trip.

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<v Speaker 2>With his wife, found out that he is now the

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<v Speaker 2>head coach as he was at a pub ins in Ireland,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe. So it's just been a bizarre you know,

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<v Speaker 2>five six months up there. What's the thought of Utah

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<v Speaker 2>State alumn Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It has been. And coach Nate driling Is has been excellent,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to be able to step up in here.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe he was in Ireland with his wife, but

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<v Speaker 3>really responded very well to him. He only one player

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<v Speaker 3>since he took over transferred away from the program, and

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<v Speaker 3>so that lets you know, and tells you a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about coach Nate Dryling, and you know how he presents

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<v Speaker 3>himself with the team thinks about him. But I am

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<v Speaker 3>still very well connected to Utah State. I care about

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<v Speaker 3>the university a lot. Obviously it you know, it raised me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in a way without the uh you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the coaching and and uh you know some of the

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<v Speaker 3>people that I were able to connect with, some of

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<v Speaker 3>the people who helped me throughout my collegiate career. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no professional career for me. And so that goes

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<v Speaker 3>from not just people in the football facility, but folks

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<v Speaker 3>who live in Logan, you know, the actual community who

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<v Speaker 3>were always there to lend a helping hand if and

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<v Speaker 3>when needed, whether it was a summer job where there

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<v Speaker 3>was like my car breaking down or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, all kinds of examples that I can go through.

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<v Speaker 3>So very well connected. I'm developing a national relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>Diane who's the new athletic director. Jared Bovie was a

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<v Speaker 3>good good friend of mine. I thought coach Anderson was

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<v Speaker 3>an awesome, awesome person, and him and I would talk,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, on occasion. I still talk to my own

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<v Speaker 3>coachy who actually came to sell me up in the

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<v Speaker 3>booth actually at the game. So the connection and the

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<v Speaker 3>love is very strong. It's there. It's unfortunate that all

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<v Speaker 3>of these things and these events happen in the way

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<v Speaker 3>that they did this offseason, but you know, those are

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<v Speaker 3>also things that aren't in my control. But what I

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<v Speaker 3>can control is to continue to support the university the

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<v Speaker 3>best way that I can, and that's what I try

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well said, I want to move back over

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<v Speaker 2>to Utah. I want to ask you a question about

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron Rising. You know QB one around here, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that played at the highest level, and you

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<v Speaker 2>played at the highest level as a running back where

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<v Speaker 2>you had the ball in your hand and very big, physical,

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<v Speaker 2>large men were trying to kill you while you were

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<v Speaker 2>running with the football. So the conversation around here, Robert

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<v Speaker 2>has been now for a number of months, like when

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<v Speaker 2>Cam gets back and what he's healthy. We've heard coach went,

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<v Speaker 2>We've heard coach love, We've heard the coaching staff and

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<v Speaker 2>other people around here saying that they have really done

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<v Speaker 2>everything they can to try to help him understand how

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<v Speaker 2>important he is to them and therefore get out of trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it possible to learn that when you are a

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<v Speaker 2>competitive guy like Cameron Rising, and when you are a

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<v Speaker 2>physical football player like Cam who plays the quarterback position

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of competitive fire, can you relearn how

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<v Speaker 2>to play that position in order to keep yourself as

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<v Speaker 2>safe as possible. Because we're three games in, he's already

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<v Speaker 2>missed a game and there's some conversation about what's next.

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<v Speaker 1>So give me your thoughts on that, Robert, will you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can absolutely absolutely learn it. If you're intentional

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<v Speaker 3>about learning something, you will. One of the examples I

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<v Speaker 3>can give is Josh Allen, who is starting quarterback for

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<v Speaker 3>the Buffalo Gose. Obviously believe me with d Wyoming, sect

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<v Speaker 3>me if I'm wrong, But you know his early years,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he was just you know, throwing his shoulder

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<v Speaker 3>head down, you know, wanted to impose his physicality on

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<v Speaker 3>the finners. But when when you watch him now, now

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<v Speaker 3>there's still a certain level of athletics that he plays

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<v Speaker 3>with and it's natural. But when he gets into space

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<v Speaker 3>and he sees defenders, he slides. Josh Allen slides now

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<v Speaker 3>when you watch him, And so if you're intentional about

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<v Speaker 3>playing the game a certain way, of course, you can

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<v Speaker 3>learn it. You absolutely can, and so Cam Rising, he's

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<v Speaker 3>just got to want that. He's got to want that

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<v Speaker 3>for himself. But I can tell you this, if he doesn't,

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to continue to be the result for him,

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<v Speaker 3>because the fact of the matter is, no matter how

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<v Speaker 3>great of a quarterback you are, or how big or

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<v Speaker 3>strong you are training or running back, you don't train

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<v Speaker 3>the same way in the offseason like a linebacker or

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<v Speaker 3>a strong safety. You're not throwing the same type of

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<v Speaker 3>weights around, You're not doing the same type of drills.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not preparing for the same type of physicality to

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<v Speaker 3>endure through an entire football season. Quarterbacks are dropping back,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going through cones, and are flowing the football as

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<v Speaker 3>they should be doing. Therefore, you need to slide. So

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<v Speaker 3>if he's more intentional about having a long career and

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<v Speaker 3>a healthy career, he'll fix this will no longer be

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<v Speaker 3>an issue moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Robert, Before I said you loose, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a big game for Utah on Saturday, as we've discussed

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<v Speaker 2>against Oklahoma State, Vegas has Utah as the favorite to

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<v Speaker 2>win the Big Twelve. The media have picked them to

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<v Speaker 2>win the Big Twelve as well. The Robert Turbin tick,

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<v Speaker 2>what has to happen, generally speaking, for Utah to get

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<v Speaker 2>this done, win the Big Twelve and go to the CFP.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it play out?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it's a great question obviously. Are you asking

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<v Speaker 3>about just this game against Oklahoma state of the Big

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<v Speaker 3>Twelve in general?

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<v Speaker 1>The Big Twelve in general all season?

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<v Speaker 3>That?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what has to happen for Utah to win the conference?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Well, cam Rise is gonna have to stay healthy

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<v Speaker 3>number one, because he is a really good he's a

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<v Speaker 3>great playmaker.

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<v Speaker 1>He is.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, that's that's gonna have to happen. Secondly, you know, this,

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<v Speaker 3>this running game, this one two punch with Macai Bernard,

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<v Speaker 3>don't continue to be really really efficient. I mean this

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<v Speaker 3>is going to have to be the meat potatoes of

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<v Speaker 3>their offense. Uh, you know for them to have success,

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<v Speaker 3>control the clock and be able to play the type

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<v Speaker 3>of offense that they want to. But this is all

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<v Speaker 3>going to be about defense for me, uh, with Utah

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<v Speaker 3>if they want to continue to if they want to

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<v Speaker 3>win the Big Club this season. Uh. Takeaways on defense,

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<v Speaker 3>being able to get pressure on the quarterback on a

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<v Speaker 3>consistent basis, the combination of those two things and then

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<v Speaker 3>obviously stopping the run if you want to add a

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<v Speaker 3>third wrinkle in there. But the defense is going to

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<v Speaker 3>have to play like a top ten defense in my

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<v Speaker 3>opinion for them to be Big twelve champions at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, man, well, good stuff. You want to call

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend? Where can our listeners go find you?

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up at?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what? I'm actually off this weekend. My son

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<v Speaker 3>is turning eight, so we've got a Dragon ball Z

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<v Speaker 3>themed birthday party going on on Saturday. So I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>doing the dad thing this weekend, but the following week

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<v Speaker 3>I will be in Wyoming. Speaking of Wyoming, they'll take

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<v Speaker 3>on Air Force at home and I'll be on the

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<v Speaker 3>call for that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, enjoy the dad stuff. I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine just turned twenty three, Robert, so you're gonna blink

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<v Speaker 2>and he's gonna be out of the house, So enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>why you can.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I will. That's great advite.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, the great Robert Turbin, one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>ever do it to Utah State and won a Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl with Seattle. Now he's doing some broadcasting. He's really

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<v Speaker 2>good at it. Hopefully he gets some more opportunities. Is

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