WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:00.560 Uh. 2 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:02.680 Oh, guess what day it is? 3 00:00:03.240 --> 00:00:04.919 Guess what day it is? 4 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:13.519 Huh anybody, It's hump Day. Yeah, it's hump Day. It 5 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:16.120 is Wednesday. Dick Gabriel with you on an edition of 6 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:19.160 the Big Blue Insider unlike any other, because for the 7 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:21.800 second day in a row, we're gonna have somebody live 8 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:24.640 on tape here in the garage with us. Our West 9 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:27.879 End bureau chief Gary Moore, who usually visits with us 10 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:30.600 via zoom, is right here in the garage. We're gonna 11 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:32.439 hear from Gary coming up in just a few minutes, 12 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:34.960 and then we will hear two guys in a six pack, 13 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.479 as we always do on Wednesday, coming up in our 14 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:40.000 number two. It is Wednesday, so we will also hear 15 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:43.439 from Shawn Woods, our West End bureau chief, Gary Moore, 16 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:46.560 Shawn Woods, both of them join us on Wednesdays. But 17 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:49.719 John Hale also will join us here. John, of course, 18 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:53.000 the beat writer for the Harold Leader covering Kentucky football. 19 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:56.399 We'll get his thoughts on the water logged, rain soaked 20 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:59.840 wind over Southern miss and what's coming up with the 21 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:05.000 South Carolina. The Wildcats spoke to the media yesterday about 22 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.640 those game Cocks. They look back on the Golden Eagles 23 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.920 and a head to sc Bush. Hamden, the offensive coordinator 24 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:14.920 said he was very pleased with the way his team 25 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:17.680 hung in there mentally and dealt with what they had 26 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:22.000 to deal with, and he also pointedly said he liked 27 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:25.079 what he saw from one of the biggest question marks 28 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:27.959 going into the game, that's the offensive line. I thought 29 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:29.760 they did a nice job. They really did. They played 30 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:30.480 extremely hard. 31 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:33.200 I was very pleased with the ability to run the ball, 32 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:35.439 you know, when we needed to, and certainly on the 33 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:36.239 explosive plays. 34 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:37.040 It always starts with. 35 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:39.560 Those guys up front, and so the ability for them 36 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:42.079 to hold up in protection gave us time to throw 37 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:44.200 the ball down the field, and I thought that was impressives. 38 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:46.840 I would think the Big Blue Nation would agree with them, 39 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:50.400 because just about everything went right after that opening drive 40 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:55.120 for the Wildcats, including spreading the ball around. Yeah, there 41 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:58.120 were big plays by barryon Brown and Dane Key, as 42 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:01.959 you might expect. But so we got to see Fred Ferrier. 43 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.879 Everybody was talking him up in summer camps from Mark 44 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:10.080 Stoops on down, including his teammates. Fred Ferrier just, you know, 45 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:14.439 nothing spectacular yet, but he can play. He showed that. 46 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:17.919 But also Jimori Macklin, the kid who started at Missouri, 47 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:21.159 had two great years in North Texas and then came 48 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:25.599 into electionon and looked I thought, really sharp against the 49 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:28.639 Southern miss What a great option to have for Brock 50 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:32.919 Fandergriff and being a veteran of SEC play, Macklin knows 51 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:36.599 that the team coming in Saturday, South Carolina, even though 52 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:40.080 the game Cocks struggled against Old Dominion, Yeah, they are 53 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:42.639 better than Kentucky's opening opponent. 54 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:44.159 They got a really good D line and they got 55 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.520 some taller, longer dv So we just got to play 56 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:48.159 up to our level. 57 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:48.319 Man. 58 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:50.240 We know that they get their good team and they 59 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:51.960 beat us the past couple years, but we know that 60 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:53.400 we're a better team. 61 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:53.560 Man. 62 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:55.199 We just got to go out there shower. He's right. 63 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:58.520 The South Carolina defense, really the team begins with the 64 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.280 D line, and you know what, so does Kentucky's I 65 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:03.599 think we all saw that. We knew that going in, 66 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:07.400 but I thought Kentucky's D line set the tone on 67 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:10.360 Saturday night. Somebody's got to set the tone and they 68 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:12.919 did that. So it's going to be fun. We'll have 69 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:16.240 the game for you right here. Speaking of fun, I'm 70 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:18.560 sure a lot of you watched the LSU Southern col 71 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:21.479 game on Sunday night. I did you know growing up, 72 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:24.120 I was a big Southern cal fan. That's right, oh, 73 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:27.719 J Simpson. I followed them because UK wasn't anything. U 74 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:32.360 of L wasn't anything. EKU wasn't yet the powerhouse that 75 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:36.439 it became. So I followed two teams. I followed Southern 76 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:41.560 col and Penn State and two of the most iconic figures. 77 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:45.639 The iconic figure in Penn State history Joe Paterno. Of course, 78 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:48.280 he had his fall from grace, although I will say 79 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.280 he did not deserve what happened to him down the stretch. 80 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.960 I felt like he needed to be replaced because he 81 00:03:55.159 --> 00:04:00.479 just should have done more. But I'm kind of by 82 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.240 the fact that I interacted with him a couple of 83 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:04.759 times and I really liked him. He treated me very well, 84 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:10.560 very professionally. But yeah, he should not have gone out 85 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:14.439 the way he went out. Southern Cali course, OJ and 86 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:17.399 also a powerhouse team that should have remained as such 87 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.160 but just fell apart. But look good the other night, 88 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.720 And if you go to the interweb you can find video. 89 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.000 It's on TikTok and I think it's been shifted over 90 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:31.680 to Twitter as well. USC players dancing in the locker 91 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:36.040 room mocking LSU. Apparently the Tigers have a favorite dance 92 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.120 they like to do on the sidelines in the locker room, 93 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:42.959 and Southern Cow's kids were doing it in their locker rooms. 94 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.920 They were having a big time, no question about that. 95 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.959 Shifting over to college baseball for just a minute. Ben 96 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:56.240 Joyce of the La Angels recorded the fastest strikeout ever, 97 00:04:56.600 --> 00:05:01.600 tracked the fastest strikeout pitch one hundred and five point 98 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:07.000 five miles per hour. That name might sound familiar. Ben 99 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:11.199 Joyce pitched at Tennessee and he wasn't a superstar. He 100 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:14.279 was there in twenty one and twenty two, and believe 101 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:19.439 it or not, he came from junior college. He came 102 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:25.600 from Walter State Community College and hurt himself after that. 103 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:30.680 Red shirted as a sophomore at Tennessee. Actually played just 104 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:33.519 the one year at Tennessee because he red shirted as 105 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:39.199 a sophomore. Walter State Community College is the fine institution 106 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:42.959 that gave us mister Neil Price, who for ten years 107 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:46.959 was the voice of Kentucky baseball and women's basketball and 108 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:51.839 now is the voice of Mississippi State football and men's basketball. 109 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:57.040 So Ben Joyce came up to Lexingon in twenty twenty 110 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:00.720 two pitched against the Wildcats, and he did not go along. 111 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:06.920 He was really really short relief for Tennessee would rarely, 112 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:10.279 if ever, went more than two innings. Against the Wildcats. 113 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:14.720 He went one third, maybe one inning, and I remember 114 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:20.000 that he recorded a couple outs, and people were really overmatched. 115 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:22.759 But a guy named Hunter Jump, who had transferred in 116 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:25.800 played just the one year, came in from Arizona State. 117 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:30.360 Was an outfielder. This guy was probably the best contact 118 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:34.600 hitter in Kentucky's lineup, and by that I mean could 119 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:38.879 basically get the bat on the ball against anybody. And 120 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:41.240 I turned to whoever was next man said, Hunter Jump's 121 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:44.160 gonna make contact on this guy because other batters just 122 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:48.600 couldn't even catch up with him. Hunter Jump cranked one 123 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:53.199 that almost left the ballpark, cranked at the deep right 124 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.519 field on Ben Joyce. But you knew Joyce wouldn't be 125 00:06:56.519 --> 00:07:00.720 around long, And sure enough he was drafted by the Angels, 126 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:06.759 and then he stayed just briefly in the miners and 127 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:09.519 they brought him up. And now with all this talk 128 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:14.759 about pitcher's throwing too hard, trying to get too much speed, 129 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:19.279 hurting their arms. He's kind of the benchmark right now. 130 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:23.560 In fact, according to their technology, through the fastest pitch 131 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:27.399 ever recorded one hundred and five and a half miles 132 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:32.279 an hour. Important to remember, and my man Doug Flynn 133 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:36.120 has pointed this out on more than one occasion where 134 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.519 they measure the pitch now in terms of the speed 135 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:45.639 is out of the pitcher's hand, not what it's doing 136 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:48.959 as it crosses the plate. Obviously it's going to be 137 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:52.319 a little bit slower. Hey, it's all relative, isn't it. 138 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:55.000 And here's the other thing. You can throw it up there, 139 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.240 one hundred miles an hour, but if it's flat, it 140 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:02.160 may leave the ballpark. Joyce, if you see the pitch 141 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:05.839 he threw that was recorded last night, that's got movement, 142 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.879 any kind of movement on a pitch that hard, it's 143 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:13.000 going to be impossible to hit. So yeah, think about that, 144 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:15.319 Kentucky fans, if you were in the ballpark when Ben 145 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:19.560 Joyce through against the Wildcats, he is now, in terms 146 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:24.079 of the radar gun, the fastest pitcher in the history 147 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:27.720 of the Major leagues. Up next, Gary Moore joins us 148 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:30.439 here in the garage for a brief preview of two 149 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.879 Guys in a six Pack. We'll talk sports with Gary 150 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:35.080 at the bottom of the hour. John Halo, the Herald 151 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:38.639 Leader here on six point thirty WLAP, welcome back to 152 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:42.200 the garage. And as we promised, Gary Moore, welcome to 153 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:42.960 the garage. 154 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.480 I can't believe I'm actually this is your garage here. 155 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:49.759 This is well, look to your left, that's my car. 156 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:50.799 This is the garage. 157 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:56.000 This is really really awesome, actually it is. And again 158 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:57.279 this is very cool. 159 00:08:57.279 --> 00:08:58.960 I should have told you to bring you laundry because 160 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:01.080 the washer dryer they're behind me. 161 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:01.960 I don't have to get up. 162 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:04.639 This is the same seat that Rex Chaplin has set 163 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.519 it and some very famous human beings. 164 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:10.360 Tom Leach said, yes, yeah. 165 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:11.399 I'm honored. I'm very honored. 166 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.879 He had Jojo Camp early in the week ran wild 167 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:18.240 over South Carolina. That's right, yeah, ten years ago. And 168 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:22.120 he'll be opening our broadcast on Saturdays. So yeah, more 169 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:24.200 and more people are dropping by. We're glad to have him. 170 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:26.519 But Gary will be along and hour number two as 171 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:29.240 well for two Guys in a six Pack. But I 172 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:33.759 wanted to basically reach just because people ask me about you. 173 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:36.480 They're like, he's your what now you're well, I said, well, 174 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:39.759 he used to be my West Coast Bureau chief back 175 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:42.080 when you worked there. But god, you were telling me 176 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:43.799 it was when did you get the election. 177 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:47.879 In It was, I believe late August nineteen eighty. 178 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:48.519 Wow. 179 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:51.480 So we go back forty four years and in fact, 180 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:53.360 even before I was coming up here in the fall 181 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:55.679 of seventy nine, forty five years ago, when I was 182 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:59.759 a senior at Western and I was dating a young 183 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:02.840 leag here at UK and uh living over in the 184 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:06.080 Greg Page apartments. I read there behind Commonwealth Stadium, right, Yeah, 185 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.879 they're fairly newer. I mean it just opened back then, 186 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.600 and I was coming up here then, listening to Kay, 187 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:14.159 listening to you guys on VLK. Of course you're listening 188 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:18.480 to fans in the stands, and Leonard's loses. Well, I 189 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:19.320 missed Leonard, I was. 190 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:19.759 I was. 191 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.120 Leonard was still around for those pre games, but all 192 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:24.120 that stuff, and I didn't even think that a year 193 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:27.000 later I'd be, you know, working here. It was such 194 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:29.720 a big deal for this, you know, small minded, you know, 195 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:31.240 I got to I grew up in Murray, so my 196 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:32.360 mind is kind of like this. 197 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:34.159 Big people in Murray, I forget. 198 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:39.039 Well, now there's probably in the city about twenty thousand, 199 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:41.639 probably in the counties probably up to fifty is something 200 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:43.279 like that with the university. But when I was there 201 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:46.879 growing up, it was about maybe ten twelve thousand, you know. 202 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:48.840 Land grand institutionswells. 203 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:51.399 The numbers of the Murray Murray State was about it 204 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:54.519 was never got more than six seven thousand enrollment. And 205 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:56.360 then you know, once they cracked the eight thousand barrier, 206 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:59.240 it's like whoa big time Now look out UK. 207 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.000 So you come to town. You were writing commercials, is 208 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:02.519 that recalled? 209 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:07.000 I was writing commercials, doing a I think one weekend show, 210 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:10.080 DJ show, music show on Sundays. So I was doing 211 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:15.840 like Sunday through through Friday. Yeah, and Ken K Towers. 212 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:19.080 And you guys continuities what it's called. Your office was 213 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:21.360 right next to the newsroom, so we bumped into each. 214 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:22.360 Other all the time, exactly. 215 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:24.879 And you quickly let it know. And you were a 216 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:25.919 big sports fan. 217 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:29.000 And you quickly let it know that you were a 218 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:31.399 black belt, I believe at the time, and of course 219 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:32.919 that I would do one of these and I'm like ha, 220 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:34.960 And all you did was like kind of look at 221 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:38.240 me like, don't even go there, grabbed my hand and 222 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:41.399 did some sort of crawl maga thing or whatever, what 223 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:43.279 do you call it? And I think I still I 224 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:45.000 never was able to write properly after that. 225 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:46.679 Yeah, right, but. 226 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:47.600 Yeah, that was that was great. 227 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:49.360 I was here for about six months, then went to Louisville, 228 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:50.840 and then was in Louisville for about four years and 229 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:52.639 then went out to LA. 230 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:52.960 Well. 231 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:54.799 I remember we stayed in touch a little bit when 232 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:56.360 you were in Louisville, and like I said, though, the 233 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:59.000 next thing I know, or like you said, you're moving 234 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:03.759 out to LA And somehow we reconnected out there because 235 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:06.200 when I went out to visit my close friend Harry Miller, 236 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:10.360 I visited you as well. Yeah, and you took me 237 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:13.519 through the radio station, which was in the same building 238 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:15.480 as Channel two the CBS. 239 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:17.679 Right, yeah, yeah, that's right I was at. I was 240 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:21.759 at the station at the time was KCBSFM became Arrow 241 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:22.279 ninety three. 242 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.200 All stations did you work for out there? 243 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:26.320 Well, I started a KFI, which was the big one 244 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:29.799 hundred thousand blowtorch am station out there, and that's why 245 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:33.200 I started getting all the Yeah, it was a clear 246 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:36.039 channel station like a whas or something like that, they're 247 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:39.159 fifty are they Okay? This was like we would get 248 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.720 calls from people in Chicago something. One time I got 249 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:47.360 a tape of myself from a guy in Norway because 250 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.840 the signal has skipped, yeah, on the other side of 251 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.240 the planet and geez it was a main yeah throughout 252 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:56.519 all the Western America. Well, the Dodgers were on KFI 253 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:59.159 for so many years and so that was like they're popular. Yeah, 254 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:01.240 That's how KFI really got up in the ratings was 255 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.840 because of of the Dodgers and that's in that signal. 256 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:07.120 But that's where And then after KFI, I went to 257 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:10.480 the station there. I was on Sunset historic building that 258 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:12.440 you were in that we were in when you were there, 259 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:15.039 because that's where they had all these great radio programs. 260 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:17.879 Jack Benny had his show there down there and in 261 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:21.759 the auditorium where it was right where Channel two was 262 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:25.039 that the CBS affiliate before TV. 263 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:28.679 Yeah, exactly about the time TV was coming along, and 264 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:33.519 people would gather around the radio. 265 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:34.080 And they had a recording studio in there too, So 266 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:37.679 the Birds, Buffalo, Springfield, Simon and Garfunkle Beach Boys, a 267 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:41.919 lot of other people recorded down there in that studio area, 268 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:44.039 and then they brought in the TV station. Well, I 269 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:45.759 think the TV stations already in there by the time 270 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:48.960 the music stuff was going on. But then above us 271 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:51.240 was at AM K and x A M. And then 272 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.480 the FM station where we were were on I think 273 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:56.080 like the fourth floor. And then I got to do 274 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.200 mornings there. And you know, for a kid from Main 275 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.000 Street Murray, Kentucky, to look out on Sunset Boulevard and 276 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:07.639 see the sunrise literally every day looking east out of 277 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.039 these nice art deco, you know, porto windows, it was 278 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.480 something else. It's still one of the great experiences. 279 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.200 Well, it would amaze me. I guess this is not 280 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:19.440 a reflection on you or your ability. I guess it is. 281 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:23.360 But you kept telling me, like you'd write me a 282 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:28.840 letter or whatever about format changes, and you survived so 283 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:32.320 many of them. Yeah, people came and went in that industry, 284 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:35.519 and yet you always landed on your feet. 285 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:36.320 I don't know how. 286 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:38.120 I mean, I tried to get along with everybody at 287 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.600 the time. And then I went over to KOs which 288 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:42.320 was the last time when you've really started doing a 289 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:45.159 lot of this, and I was there for twenty two years. Wow, 290 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:46.799 And I went through I don't know, like six seven 291 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:48.919 program directors general managers. 292 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:52.120 And that's what gets me. All the different pds who 293 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:55.200 all have a better idea, you know, but none of 294 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:58.519 them said, let's get rid of this guy. But as 295 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:02.080 I've explained to people, you were the West Coast Beards 296 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:04.440 because you and I when we kept in touch, we 297 00:15:04.519 --> 00:15:06.399 kept talking about, man, it would be great to do 298 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:09.279 something together. Yeah, and even though you were on the 299 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:12.399 other side of the country, once technology caught up with us, 300 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:15.200 we were able to hook up. I love it and 301 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:17.799 and that's when you became because we would always find 302 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:21.039 some reason for you to be on an Alexion radio 303 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:24.399 show from Los Angeles. But I tell people one of 304 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:27.159 the true, if not the high point of this very 305 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:30.919 radio show, with due respect to all my guests, was 306 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:33.519 the night that you and I remember we were anchoring 307 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:38.799 the show at I think it was Hooters, but you 308 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:41.240 were sitting you said, guess where I am, And you 309 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:44.559 were sitting in the dugout of the National League All Stars, 310 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.679 not just at the game, but in I think it 311 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:48.600 was San Francisco. 312 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:50.440 It was two thousand, summer, two thousand and seven, that 313 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:52.159 was the All Star game. Yeah, so I got to 314 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:54.559 call it Dick again, you're aware I need to call 315 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:56.759 Dick rub it in here because I'm sitting here with 316 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:58.480 all the Cardinals because you know, that was two thousand 317 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:00.679 and six they won the World Series. So that Larusa 318 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.399 and all those guys. The next year, whoever wins the 319 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:06.159 World Series in October the next year, that manager gets 320 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:10.000 the Well, some guys think that it's it's it's an honor. 321 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:12.240 Most of them would rather be vacation from what I've 322 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:14.480 been able to find out. But there was Tony LaRussa 323 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:17.120 and of course Pooholes and all these guys. We were there, 324 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:20.919 We're hanging out, and so I thought, I think Dick 325 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:22.799 might want to know where I'm at right now, so 326 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:23.799 let's just kind of call it. 327 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:27.279 That was very fun. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. 328 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:27.600 That was. 329 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:29.960 And I'd been there before for the two thousand and 330 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.919 two World Series, so that's a great, great stadium. They 331 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:35.600 put the press people or US press people, way up 332 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:38.960 on the highest level, up on the top, but at 333 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:42.919 San Francisco, that's kind of where you'd like to be 334 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:47.039 because then you've got the panoramic view of the entire bay, 335 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:50.399 of the the Bay Bridge and all that stuff, the 336 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:53.480 you know, the San Francisco Bay and all that Oakland's 337 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:55.759 over there, and you can just see the ship's going like, oh, 338 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:58.679 I've been staring at the ocean. There's a game still 339 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:00.480 going on down here, which is the easy to do. 340 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:02.559 It's just beautiful. That's the most beautiful scene. I mean, 341 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:04.359 I love Dodger Stadium, don't get me wrong. It's like 342 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.720 second home to me. But San Francisco, man, what of you? 343 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:12.279 I used to introduce you, Maybe I still should as 344 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:15.519 someone with all of this on your resume, And I've 345 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:18.200 explained to people that you were, for lack of a 346 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:20.680 better term, a rock and roll DJ. Yeah, Yellow West, 347 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:24.680 but you could get media credentials to just about anything 348 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:26.839 because nobody else at the station cared right. 349 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.200 That's true, and it was happened by accident. When I 350 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:31.359 first came here. I left Louisville in eighty five, and 351 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:33.599 by the summer of eighty six, I was working for KFI, 352 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.920 the big am station there, and our sports guy Chris Roberts, 353 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:39.440 who would go on to be the play by play 354 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:42.759 guy for UCLA basketball and football for several years. He 355 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:44.720 was doing sports, but he didn't have any sound. I goes, 356 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:46.680 do you do you not get any you know, any 357 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:49.039 interviews with yeah, any soundbites from any of the players. 358 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:50.519 He goes, no, no, we can't. I can't go out 359 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:51.839 there for it. I go, well, I'll do it if 360 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:53.599 you want me to. He goes, okay, you want to 361 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:54.000 go out there. 362 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:55.039 He was always at the station. 363 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.759 He was always at the station, and I guess he 364 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.359 had family stuff going on. He couldn't get out there 365 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:00.759 all the time. So he says, look, I'll give you 366 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.480 tape recorder. Here's here's the taper, here's a press pass, 367 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:05.680 and you put this in Tommy las Shorta's face and 368 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:07.799 you ask him questions. You don't be afraid because you're 369 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:09.799 You've got as much right there as all these other guys. 370 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:11.240 And you go out there and you go get them. Boy, 371 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:13.160 okay talk. 372 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:13.799 Sure. 373 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:17.200 So many times Tommy Lasorda was holding court. I wish 374 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:18.799 I could tell you some of those stories. Most of 375 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:23.000 them involved profanity and some rather blue humor off the air. 376 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:23.519 I'll tell you so. 377 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:26.359 But uh, that was that was incredible. That was the 378 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:28.839 you know, after that whole eighty five series where they 379 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.559 you know, getn't pitched it to a Jack Clark the 380 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.839 following summer from that, so that's when it all started. 381 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:38.759 And then I just I just kept going getting Lakers 382 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.000 media credentials and so cool all that stuff, and then 383 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:42.599 transferred that onto the other stations. 384 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:46.279 Yeah, oh man. Uh And like I said, uh, he's 385 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:49.400 got roots here in Kentucky. We would make excuses to 386 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:51.119 have him on from it, but it was you know, 387 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:54.240 national stuff. We would just right like we do now. Yeah, 388 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:57.160 we're two guys in a six pack. But it's been 389 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.960 fun and Gary's been a regular part of our show. 390 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.759 And because it's Wednesday, we talked with Gary middle of 391 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:06.119 the week. We look at what happened over the weekend, 392 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.599 we set up the upcoming weekend, and we're gonna do 393 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:11.359 that as well. I got about thirty seconds. But how 394 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:13.160 late did you stay up with the UK and the 395 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:13.759 rain delay? 396 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:17.759 Till right as they were calling it? So I was 397 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:19.920 there back and forth. Yeah, yeah, I was going back 398 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:21.599 and forth with that I had to do. And again 399 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:23.400 I was staying up late last night watching the Vidgers. 400 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:25.519 This is like a regular thing with me. Whoever's I've 401 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:26.799 just but I had to see what's. 402 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:28.200 Going on with that. I wanted to find out, you know. 403 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:30.599 But with the rain delays, you could step out for 404 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:32.519 twenty or thirty minutes, check another game. 405 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:34.319 Colet's do it. 406 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:36.359 Yeah, all right, coming up in just a few minutes, 407 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:38.799 John Hale of the Herald Leader, we'll talk Entucky Football 408 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:41.759 Hour number two, Sean Woods and Gary rejoins US Live 409 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:44.319 and the Color from the Garage on six thirty WLAP. 410 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.000 Welcome back to the Big Blu Insider And as promised, 411 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:51.200 mister John Hale from the Herald Leader. Who I guess, John, 412 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:53.480 are your shoes dry? Finally? I mean if you if 413 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:57.440 you finished your ringing out anything that got soaked on. 414 00:19:57.759 --> 00:19:59.960 Are we able to avoid all that on Saturday? 415 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:01.200 Yeah? 416 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:03.440 I was actually able to avoid It was weird timing 417 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:05.960 because I got there my normal two hours or whatever 418 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:08.640 before the game, and the weather looked fine, and I 419 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:10.839 saw people standing outside the stadium and just stop. They 420 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:11.720 had to open the gate hit. 421 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:12.680 It wasn't until I got. 422 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.400 To the press box that I realized they were holding 423 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.680 the opening for lightning. And then I was in the 424 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:21.000 press box until it was over. By the time I 425 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:23.880 left it, you know, one or whatever it was, it 426 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:25.519 was drizzling a little bit, but I had a number 427 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:27.359 one major to the car without any issue. 428 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:28.559 So I got lucky that way. 429 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:31.720 That's a veteran right there. Well, you've had a chance 430 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:34.039 to talk to Mark Stoop. Some of the players and 431 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.319 coaches already had practice this week. What was your take. 432 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:40.519 Were you surprised other than the weather by anything, or 433 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:42.160 did it unfold the way you thought it would. 434 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:46.319 Yeah, I thought it was pretty predictable. I think the 435 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:51.079 most interesting part is, of course Rock vandergriff and he 436 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:53.440 looked fine. He looked I think he looked impressive in 437 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:55.400 certain ways, but you could tell there was some I 438 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:58.000 think first start jitters out there. Some of the those 439 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:00.720 hits he was taking, I think was probably for eagerness 440 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:03.680 to go out and make a statement in his first game. 441 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:06.799 He basically admitted that after the game. How he manages 442 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:09.799 that moving forward? Can you know some of the poor 443 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:12.279 decisions he made, like the one throw that should have 444 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:15.480 been a pick six? The interception is that going to 445 00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:18.519 get worn down with for us and many people too 446 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.799 quickly forget how different teams can look from game one 447 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:24.160 to even game two, or certainly game one to a 448 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:26.759 month later. You look back at that twenty one season 449 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:29.160 when they won ten games, and like they barely beat 450 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:31.240 Central Michigan in the week first game, and I think 451 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:33.200 Central Michigan was like two and ten that season. That 452 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:35.680 was not a good Central Michigan team. And Will Levis 453 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:38.640 didn't really become Will Levis until that LSU game in 454 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:41.400 Week four or five, and so it takes some time occasionally. 455 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:43.799 So I thought there were enough positive signs, certainly from 456 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:47.519 the half and five minutes that we saw that you 457 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:51.279 definitely don't have any more worries after the first game 458 00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:52.319 than you had going into it. 459 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.759 I'll tell you what surprised me is the amount of 460 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:58.640 running by Vandergrid. Not that he ran, not that he 461 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:01.480 was good at it, but it was clear that that 462 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:04.599 ham Dan dialed up the quarterback run game. He needs 463 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:07.559 to see, of course, what he's got against, you know, 464 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:11.440 live ammunition. But I was surprised they did it so 465 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:15.799 much that they showed a too South Carolina and then, yeah, 466 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:17.559 this kid's got to learn to slide, doesn't he. 467 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:18.640 Yeah. 468 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:20.400 I mean we know that a lot of us had 469 00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:22.480 that same issue at times, and he made it through 470 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.519 his old first season, but really playing that way without issues. 471 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:27.319 But then we know what happened in the second season, 472 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:29.839 and in fairness, to Will, I don't think the hits 473 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.640 that really did him in weren't necessarily him running as 474 00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:33.599 much as him just not. 475 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:34.799 Getting protected very well. 476 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.599 Yeah, it's always a risky endeavor with your quarterback and 477 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:42.440 talking offensive players after practice on Tuesday, basically everyone was like, yeah, 478 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:44.039 I really jazzed us up, but we went to him 479 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:47.519 on the sidelines slide, we need you out there, and 480 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:49.960 so like that. That part of it is interesting as 481 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:52.000 far as the quarterback run goes, I mean, dating back 482 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:55.839 to his introductory press conference, Bush Hampden said that he 483 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:58.240 thinks your quarterback has to get you at least two 484 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.680 first downs a game with his legs, and basically had 485 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:04.160 done that by the second series. So I was intrigued 486 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:05.880 to see that much too. I think it's going to 487 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:07.640 be part of it. But the thing that I still 488 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.119 have questioned about is we heard so much in camp 489 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:13.000 and dating back to the summer about this wildcat package 490 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:15.960 they were developing for gap winset back up and how 491 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:17.440 much he was going to run, and I thought maybe 492 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:20.200 some of that was going to take away from Vandergriff 493 00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:22.599 designed runs to protect him a little bit, so he 494 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:25.039 wasn't taking those hits. We didn't see Wembset at all 495 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:27.559 in the half and five minutes they played. He probably 496 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:29.359 would have played in the fourth quarter. I assume if 497 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:32.880 they had finished that game out. Were there some wrinkles 498 00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:34.960 in that formation that they were able to hide from 499 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:38.039 a team like South Carolina and Georgia coming out or 500 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:40.759 is it just a situation that Vander griff is, you know, 501 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:43.240 so much better with his arm and clearly can make 502 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:45.359 plays with his legs too, that were you know, maybe 503 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:47.400 that Webset formation is not We're just not going to 504 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:49.599 see it very often other than maybe sure yards go 505 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:52.319 on the situation. So that's a question I still have 506 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:53.279 moving forward. 507 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:55.279 For sure, I think if they had won the first 508 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:59.519 four minutes the way Stoops loves to and that third quarter, 509 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:02.759 I think we might have seen whim set even sooner 510 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:06.640 than the fourth period, just because USM was just so overmatched. 511 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:09.599 But you're right, should have had a touchdown on the 512 00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:13.039 drop pick six. A reminder that often dbacks are converted 513 00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:15.519 wide receivers because they're not great at hanging on to 514 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:20.000 the football. But I wonder John was that it had 515 00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:23.279 to be in that situation. But is that going to 516 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.440 be something that they really have to work on in 517 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.599 that Vandergriff in his first year as a starter, is 518 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.920 he locking onto receivers? You know? Are they reading his eyes? 519 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:36.680 And I know it's not easy to fix, but it's 520 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:38.200 easy to recognize, isn't it. 521 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:41.119 Yeah, that's something that I think you're always worried about 522 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:43.119 with the first time starter who just doesn't have that 523 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:45.920 many game reps. Like that's just something with experience that 524 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:47.960 he's going to work through. And I do think it 525 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:50.200 was good that it was clearly part of the game 526 00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:52.440 plan to spread the ball around a lot. I think 527 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:55.440 like eight different offensive players got touches either with runs 528 00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:58.400 or passes. And so when you're able to do that 529 00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:01.119 and get so many different guys involved, maybe just scheme wise, 530 00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:04.160 they can avoid some of that. But good defensive acts 531 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:06.799 with the SEC defenses they're going to play or they're 532 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:09.039 going to be better than what they saw in that 533 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.200 opener obviously, and they're going to be able to take 534 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:14.119 more advantage of that. So for as courage incouraging as 535 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:16.759 the first game was for Vandergriff, there's definitely work that 536 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.359 he still needs to do to play that well against 537 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:19.960 better teams. 538 00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:22.079 I had a comment earlier in the show from Brush 539 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:26.119 Hampden from yesterday's news conference where you were about the 540 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:28.319 old line, he was pleased. What did you see out 541 00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:30.200 of the offensive line, because you get a better look 542 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:31.960 at it than I do from upstairs. 543 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:34.400 Yeah, I mean, I thought it was noteworthy that so 544 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.440 many of the productive runs that they averaged over seven 545 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:39.839 yards of carry. It wasn't like guys were running through 546 00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:42.400 tackles like we saw in the Benis and Nol Chris Rudder, 547 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:45.319 because there were just holes there. That one drive in 548 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:47.599 the second quarter where Jason Patterson, the running back, the 549 00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:50.480 freshman was out there, they got twelve yards, eleven yards 550 00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:52.000 and I don't think he really got touched until the 551 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:54.039 you know, the until he got brought down. And so 552 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:57.559 that seems to speak well the offensive line. Talking to 553 00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:01.480 Eli Cox and Marcus Cox to practice on Tuesday, I 554 00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.160 think it seems like there were some pass protection issues 555 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.599 that maybe didn't manifest because Vandergrif was so good at 556 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.519 keeping plays alive and moving around in the pocket avoiding 557 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:13.519 that well against a team like South Carolina has two 558 00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:16.200 elite edge rushers, you need to shore that up because 559 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:17.920 he's not going to have so much time to do 560 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.960 that and so that's something I think it sounded like 561 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.640 the offensive line is kind of zeroed in on as 562 00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:25.200 improvement from week one to week two. 563 00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:29.480 Yeah, and vander Griff missed a big throw because of 564 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:31.920 a little bit of pressure early. I don't know if 565 00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:34.440 you remember he was he stepped up in the pocket, 566 00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.799 had somebody draped on the bottom of his legs and 567 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:40.200 had to throw little Tuesday and as somebody opened out 568 00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:43.759 on the left sideline and just barely overthrew them. And 569 00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.559 that one, even though it was incomplete, that really impressed me. 570 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.039 It reminded me a little bit of Levis, you know, 571 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:52.839 with contact, he's still able to put some juice on 572 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:53.240 the ball. 573 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:55.400 Yeah, there were a couple of those. I mean I 574 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.640 remember one specifically where he kind of rolled out to 575 00:26:57.680 --> 00:26:59.920 his right and then threw it back across his body 576 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:01.960 down the field. It was the past that Barry un 577 00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:04.440 Brown dropped right before one that ye been the pick 578 00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:06.960 six like and and Brown should have caught that. Maybe 579 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.519 it was wet or whatever in the rain, but that 580 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:11.480 was a really impressive throw in terms of just on 581 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.960 the move and seeing an open guy down the field, 582 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:15.839 across the field and being able to get it there. 583 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.720 That's that's the kind of NFL level throw that you know, 584 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:20.400 he was hyped to be able to make out of 585 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:22.160 high school. So to see some of that in game one, 586 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:23.480 I thought was definitely encouraging. 587 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:28.599 Well, speaking of Patterson, you somebody that Mark Steubs brought 588 00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.240 up more than once pre season, brought him up after 589 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:35.359 the game as well, but you wrote about him, you 590 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:39.039 wrote about the fact that he showed he's got some 591 00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:42.000 things that might make you think about Benny Snell. 592 00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.640 Right, Yeah, he wears twenty six. That's the first number 593 00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.079 that pops to mind. And you're going to see the 594 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:49.880 twenty six out there in the backfield. And it's been 595 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.279 a while. I mean, Ramon Jefferson more it last year, 596 00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:55.400 but obvious then of two years, it was year there 597 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.839 was another freshman retro Church freshman running back whould never 598 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.920 actually played each transferred who wore it since Benny left. 599 00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:05.400 But Patterson's basically the first featured running back. It's more 600 00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:08.359 since Benny and looking it up, it kind of surprised me. 601 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.680 He's the first freshman running back to have a carry 602 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.039 in the first half of a game since Benny's freshman season. 603 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.079 In like, they've just been so veteran at that position 604 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.839 that they've been able to you know, guys like Chris Rudder, 605 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:23.000 you guys and gas smoke. It's Tom McClain and a 606 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:27.160 couple other players along that line got carries their freshman year, 607 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.880 but like Layton blowouts in those big Louisville wins or 608 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:32.759 the FCS games or whatever, the fourth quarter they let 609 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.599 them play while they were red shirty. So we just 610 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.240 haven't seen this in a while. And Patterson doing it 611 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:40.039 in the very first game is something Benny didn't even 612 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.319 do because if you remember, Benny didn't get a carry 613 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.880 until Week three in twenty sixteen, those first two weeks 614 00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:46.680 the only touches he had where he's a kick returner 615 00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.799 is so obviously week three first, on the same he 616 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.279 tied the school record for touchdowns in the game in 617 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.839 his first real opportunity. And they're not like I mean, 618 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.960 Patterson's probably not quite as physical as Benny, obviously not 619 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.920 many running backs are. But the fact that he's already 620 00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:06.880 out there, you can't criticize anything that the Missimo Karnbay did. 621 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:09.039 In that first game. He averaged seven yards of carry, 622 00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:12.480 so certainly he did. He's worthy of keeping that starting role. 623 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.039 And when Chip Trainham comes back, we know that he's 624 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:17.000 a physical guy that maybe can shine in some of 625 00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:20.279 those obvious run situations that they didn't have in Week 626 00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:22.839 one and they struggled in last year. But I think 627 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.519 both Patterson and Jamerion Wilcox, the redshirt freshmen, maybe have 628 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:28.960 higher ceilings and so it would not surprise me at 629 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:31.559 all as we see the season progressed, if they get 630 00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:33.200 a larger and larger share of the pearies. 631 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:35.279 I looked it up back in the day, and I 632 00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:38.920 think I'm right. Benny Snell's very first game, for all 633 00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:41.720 the great numbers he put up, you probably know this, 634 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.160 his very first game is only stat was an assisted 635 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.319 tackle on a kickoff return or something like that. It's 636 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.279 just nuts what he produced eventually, and I'd love to 637 00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.559 see where Patterson goes. We'll talk more football with John 638 00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:56.920 Hale of the Herald Leader in just a moment here 639 00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.759 on the Big Boon Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back. 640 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.200 We're talking with John Hale, beat writer for the Arow Leader. 641 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:05.880 Covers Kentucky football for the most part, covers a lot 642 00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:09.279 of things, but UK football primarily, and we were talking 643 00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:12.680 about the run game. John were you surprised they ran. 644 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:14.319 I don't know if you call it the jets sweep 645 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:17.599 and around whatever you want to call it, both turn 646 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:19.839 and hand it off flipping in front of you, which 647 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.640 is technically a pass. But getting Barry and Brown involved 648 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.640 that way so often did that surprise you at all? 649 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:29.599 It did surprise me as much as they did it, because, 650 00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.559 I mean, it makes sense to try and get very 651 00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:34.000 on the ball in space, but like the actual run, 652 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:35.920 I mean, because we've seen that pitch ahead and plays 653 00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.839 you're talking about before with him, but they actually hand 654 00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.559 it off to him as a rush. I was surprised 655 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:44.119 they went to it that early and then go to 656 00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:46.039 it over and over again. It makes you think that 657 00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:49.079 there's gotten to be something off that play they're setting 658 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.240 up for the next few weeks. But clearly there's some 659 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.440 other wrinkle that they want South Carolina and Georgia to 660 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:55.119 have to prepare for, and then you can do some 661 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:58.319 other things with the play action whatever. So I'm interesting 662 00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:01.240 how they moved forward. The fact that the only third 663 00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.960 and short they had in the shortened game was that 664 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.000 third and two right before the field goal, and they 665 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:09.119 gave it the very on on the jet suite, and 666 00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:11.839 he went over the sideline and had the little skirmish. 667 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.160 He did not get the first down. Stoops that afterwards, 668 00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:16.920 if he had realized how close the fourth down was, 669 00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.240 he would have gone for it, but he didn't see. 670 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.359 They didn't change the gardage marker on the changing quickly 671 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.839 enough for him to tell. So that like that a 672 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:29.720 makes me wonder how confident they are in their running 673 00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:31.720 backs in those situations where everybody knows you're going to 674 00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:34.200 run the ball and b it it. You know, says 675 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:35.720 a little bit about and very on. I think his 676 00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:39.519 increased physicality and willingness to take contact, because that's frankly 677 00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:41.200 been an issue for him in the first two years. 678 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:43.839 He seemed like he was he wasn't really good to 679 00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.319 go over the middle or go in the situation where 680 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:47.599 he knew he was going to get hit. So to 681 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.160 do that in the run game, I think that that 682 00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:51.359 speaks to some of the progress he's made to you. 683 00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:55.279 Know, it's interesting when you think about the respective coaching 684 00:31:55.440 --> 00:32:00.519 staffs preparing for this upcoming game, South Carolina versus Kentucky. 685 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:05.640 The Carolina coaches only have two quarters plus five minutes 686 00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:09.000 of Kentucky video to study You can go back and 687 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.359 look at Bush Hampden's work at Boise State, at Missouri 688 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:16.160 and whatever, but not with this personnel in Kentucky. You've 689 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:18.480 got to wonder how much are they going to be 690 00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:22.599 able to read from South Carolina's win over Old Dominion, 691 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:27.200 which was terrible on offense South Carolina, but the defense 692 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:29.559 won the game for him, turned them over four times, 693 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:33.440 including a fumble towards the end that allowed South Carolina 694 00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:35.759 to score the game winning touchdown. There's going to be 695 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.640 a lot more mystery in this one, John, I think 696 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:39.720 than ordinary. Do you do? You agree? 697 00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:39.960 Yeah? 698 00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:42.240 I think so definitely. I mean, I'm not sure how 699 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.559 much more how many more wrinkles that Kentucky would have 700 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.400 put a film in the second half? Right, they played 701 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:49.680 it out anyway because the score was the way it was. 702 00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.440 But I asked Busham of that after Tuesday's practice, Blake, 703 00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.920 is there some advantage that you didn't have to put 704 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.319 some more on film. It's a balance because yes, there 705 00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.160 are some wrinkles that they didn't show that maybe will 706 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.160 surprise South Carolina this week or Georgia next week. But 707 00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:05.920 the downside of that is the plays they did put 708 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.839 on film, you probably want to run those two or 709 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.359 three more times to hiron out any keys. You have 710 00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.400 to make sure you just get the operation and to 711 00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.799 work through things, and it gives your players more reps 712 00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.200 and making sure you're operating those plays at peak efficiency. 713 00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:21.400 So they lost that part of it, but I do 714 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.640 think they gained some mystery. I mean, like the Wimset 715 00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:26.559 wildcat stuff comes to mind immediately, like nobody's seen that, 716 00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:28.039 so they don't know what they're going to do with that. 717 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.960 No Bush Ransom wildcat with Ashton Gent the star running 718 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.839 back at Boise State, so that's out there. But you know, 719 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:36.960 he's a running back and Wimsett as a quarterback for 720 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:38.920 his you know, he's not a great passard, but he's 721 00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.559 at least a capable guy who can make plays with 722 00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.000 his arms. So that's a different wrinkle that teams aren't 723 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:44.920 prepared for under me. 724 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.079 And you don't get to work on those plays, the whims, 725 00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.839 that package or whatever in a live game situation. So yeah, 726 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.400 he's right, there's a better and a better kind of thing. 727 00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.480 Speaking of the South Carolina defense, I don't know if 728 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.279 you had a chance to watch much of that, but 729 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.759 not unlike Kentucky, John the d line kind of sets 730 00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:06.640 the way for South Carolina. That's going to be interesting. 731 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.360 Yeah, they've got two really really good ed rushers, including 732 00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.280 a five star freshman who in his debut looked every 733 00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.400 part of you know, his recruiting hype, and then a 734 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.920 veteran guy too, And so it's going to be a 735 00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:20.800 much more difficult test for this offensive line, like we 736 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.639 talked a little earlier, but also for broadman Griff he's 737 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.599 got to figure out how much of that freelancing he 738 00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:28.679 was able to do in the opener and keep plays 739 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:30.880 alive and find guys downfield, how much of that he 740 00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:32.360 can do, and how much of it he just needs 741 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.679 to operate more quickly and say like, Okay, this first 742 00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:37.639 couple of reads aren't open. Maybe he just needs to 743 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.159 tucket and run. But you don't want to leave the 744 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:42.639 door open to a big hit or a sack. So 745 00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.920 I think that's something to watch. And then the running backs, 746 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:48.360 are the holes going to be as open? And if 747 00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:51.519 they're not, do they have guys and healthy guys because 748 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.280 Chip tradem is not going to play this week either, 749 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:56.960 who are capable of you know, going through contact and 750 00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.840 getting your you know, four yards at a time. Which 751 00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:01.880 is going to be important at SEC games, Like did 752 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.400 they have those guys? I don't think we know that. 753 00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:05.400 Based on the open. 754 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.800 South Carolina ran for one hundred and seventy four I 755 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.280 think forty something yards was on one play for the 756 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.719 game only gained two hundred and eighty eight yards. But 757 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.280 a dangerous quarterback and Leonora sellars in terms of his 758 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:23.079 ability to extend plays with his feet. I don't know 759 00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.719 what kind of army has. He didn't have impressive throwing numbers, 760 00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:31.239 but through the years, we've seen dual threat quarterbacks come 761 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:32.639 in here in wreak havoc, haven't we. 762 00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:33.639 Yeah. 763 00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:36.840 I mean they're trouble for everybody. That's why Vandergriff part 764 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.000 of the reason he was so effect But I do 765 00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:41.400 think it helps Kentucky's defense that for now a month 766 00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.480 of camp they've been going against Vandergriff and Gavin Winbson, 767 00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.199 who's a similar quarterback, and as they're running first and 768 00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.199 maybe not a great passer, So they've seen that a 769 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:51.960 lot more than they did a year ago. When you're 770 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.760 going against Devin Leary and practice every day, who's basically 771 00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.360 a statue back there. So like that part of it 772 00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:59.920 helps a little bit. I mean, Kentucky's front seven is 773 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.079 so experienced that you would hope that they're used to 774 00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.199 those situations and you know they won't get overwhelmed by 775 00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:08.920 the moment or the first season game, any of that stuff. 776 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.239 I'm pretty confident they can slow them round at least 777 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.760 against most teams, given how experienced and talented that front 778 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.000 seven is. But those dual threat quarterbacks are always a 779 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:20.639 wild card, and we know that that has been an 780 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:22.239 issue for them and sometimes in the past. 781 00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:26.320 South Carolina wins it last year when Kentucky played maybe 782 00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:29.639 it's worst game of the year all things considered, down 783 00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.599 in Colombia. Do you think there's much hangover from a 784 00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:33.239 game like that. 785 00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:36.719 I don't think so, just because the rosters change over 786 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.199 so much now. I mean, there's so many new transfers 787 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:41.159 on this team and are playing big roles that weren't 788 00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:44.079 here last year. They don't experience. Yeah, but it's definitely 789 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:47.079 among the guys who are back. It has to, you know, 790 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.239 it plays on their mind, Like bery On Brown and 791 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.000 dan Key have been here this year three and the 792 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.280 haven't been South Carolina yet and in the last two 793 00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.519 years have been just the absolute ugliest games you could 794 00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.000 have imagined two years ago when Levis was hurt and 795 00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:01.960 kaya Sharon started there obviously didn't go great. And last 796 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.920 year after that game in Columbia, that was as dejected 797 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.480 as I've ever seen Mark Soops after a game. And 798 00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:11.280 so you know that the coaching staff, the players you 799 00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:13.639 are back, have a little extra for this and want 800 00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:15.639 to get back on that win column. And then they know, 801 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:17.960 I mean, as much as they try to pretend they 802 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.039 don't listen to us talk and don't read what we 803 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.880 write like, they all know that how important this game 804 00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:26.320 is the future at the schedule, given what lies ahead, 805 00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.800 and if you lose to South Carolina for the thirty 806 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:30.559 year in a row, it could go off the rails 807 00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:33.719 really quickly. This is a really really important game, and 808 00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:37.679 you just hope that the veterans can manage the acknowledgment 809 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.079 that it's important without putting too much pressure on themselves. 810 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:43.039 Even more important now with division's being gone. 811 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.840 Right, Yeah, absolutely, I mean because you know that you 812 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:48.960 know at Georgia that's going to be really difficult. You're 813 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:51.199 all your road games are hard. In Florida, we know 814 00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.400 didn't look good Week one, but that's still you got 815 00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:55.239 to play at the Swamp and they're going to be desperate. 816 00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:57.480 But then you've got three other top fifteen teams on 817 00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.440 the road, and you get Georgia at home, and so 818 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.719 that it's just a difficult schedule you if you really 819 00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:06.199 want to contend for an expanded playoff spot, which is 820 00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:10.239 what they all said in preseason, is understandable, It's hard 821 00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.360 to imagine a scenario where you can do that without 822 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:13.280 being South Carolina. 823 00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:17.440 I can't remember in my lifetime, are yours when Florida 824 00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:20.920 and Florida State were so mediocre when it came to 825 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:24.039 college football. I'm sure research could dig up at least 826 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:26.559 one year like that. But it's a strange time we're 827 00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.199 living in John But I'm just happy to be here. 828 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.480 John Hale of the herold Leader. Follow him at Kentucky 829 00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:35.480 dot com and on Twitter or x at John Hale, 830 00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:39.239 j O, n h el E Underscore HL. John, thank you, 831 00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:40.639 we will see you at the stadium. 832 00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:41.880 Thanks for having me. 833 00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:43.800 Got to do it for hour number one coming up 834 00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.800 an hour number two. Sean Woods, the Unforgettable Guard as 835 00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:49.400 he joined us each and every Wednesday, and a return 836 00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.280 right here live Vincolor on tape in the Garage Westen 837 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.199 bulanchie Gary Moore, that's next on the Big Bouin Sider 838 00:38:56.280 --> 00:39:23.239 six point thirty wlap welcome back to the Big Bluin 839 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:25.920 Cider and joining us as he does each and every Wednesday, 840 00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:29.559 is the Unforgettable Guard. Sean Woods Jersey hangs in the 841 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.239 rafters of Rupp And we'll talk about basketball here in 842 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:36.519 a minute, but college football is underway, coach, and you 843 00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:40.239 and I have talked about how you rooted for Kentucky football. 844 00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.639 You didn't get a chance to interact with a lot 845 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.599 of the players when you were here as a ballplayer. 846 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:48.280 But did you stick it out to the bitter end 847 00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:49.760 Saturday night? You can tell me. 848 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:55.000 The football game. Yeah, yeah, I didn't go to the game. 849 00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:56.159 But I'll check it out though. 850 00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.599 You know I did stick it out. And I'll tell 851 00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.360 you what, man, you Cathletics is so exciting now, was 852 00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:07.840 so colorful. You know, I never imagine me going to 853 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:10.840 four baseball games this year, and I had a great time. 854 00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:14.159 And now, you know, football seasons here and I get 855 00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.159 to tailgate with some old friends that I haven't been 856 00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:18.000 able to hang out with in a long time and 857 00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:22.320 just enjoy, you know, college football and the SEC and 858 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.079 now we're pretty good and students is doing a heck 859 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:27.039 of a job, I mean, man, And it's just an 860 00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:31.039 exciting time just being back living in Lectionington, Kentucky, especially 861 00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:33.280 with athletics, as far as athletics is concerned. 862 00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:35.320 You like that tailgating, don't you. 863 00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:36.920 I love it. 864 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:40.400 You know, I was in the HPCU sector, so that 865 00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:42.920 tailgate is a little different, but it's pretty good. But 866 00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:47.920 I just I just missed, you know, Kentucky and and being. 867 00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:50.800 Out there at all the Kentucky fans and people hadn't 868 00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:52.679 seen it a long time, just hanging out having a 869 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:53.159 good time. 870 00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:57.280 You have not changed much in terms of what you 871 00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.519 look like since you played ball. How often do you 872 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.480 get recognized all the time? 873 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:06.360 You know, you think you're coming in there with a 874 00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:09.199 hat on in this grocery store or whatever and somebody 875 00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:10.280 don't recognize you. 876 00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:11.199 Uh. 877 00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:13.760 My wife was just talking about that not too long ago, 878 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.159 about you know, people just still know who you are 879 00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.039 and you had this to be and it is because 880 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.679 these people here in at Kentucky. That's what I was 881 00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.360 telling the TBT guys. They don't forget, you know, they 882 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.239 they know you can walk in in a place and 883 00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.199 you could be great, such and such man, that's such 884 00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:33.199 and such right there, man he used to be you know, 885 00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:35.800 they're telling their son or whatever and so looking like 886 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:36.880 a whole. 887 00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:37.800 Guy in play for UK. 888 00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:39.320 Yes he did. 889 00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:45.880 Uh, just tell him to turn on the turn on 890 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.360 YouTube and you can. That's what's so great about your 891 00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:54.119 generation is almost everything is preserved, isn't it. 892 00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:57.480 Yes, it is. And uh, I think just people our 893 00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.280 age just really did a good job of taking care 894 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.360 of themselves. And you know if he is the new 895 00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:06.599 thirty so you know, it's just you know, people still 896 00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:08.880 working out. You know, I don't know nobody, especially in 897 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.039 my group, that doesn't look good. I mean, Richie Farmer 898 00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.440 looks fabulous, like you can still play. You know, house 899 00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:17.559 is still housed, Pale is still pale. I mean, you know, 900 00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:19.400 we had a good time not too long, about two 901 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.320 three weeks ago, but we all pretty much looked the same. 902 00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:24.480 I mean, you know, you can tell who we are anyway. 903 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:27.639 Of course, when it came to Fisher here, Richie looked 904 00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:29.320 like he was twenty five when he was in the 905 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.679 eighth grade, so that was a head start for everybody. 906 00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:36.079 I remember the first time I saw him playing for 907 00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:38.519 a Clay County. How old are these guys? A lot 908 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:41.800 of them looked that way. But yeah, it's interesting that 909 00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:44.199 there's just so much more info out there now about 910 00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:48.400 health and nutrition and exercise, and you know it's on 911 00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:50.079 you if you don't get it done right. 912 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.559 Exactly, you know. And me being an athlete, my body 913 00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:55.199 tells me it's time to get up. 914 00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:55.400 You know. 915 00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:58.000 I can't lay in to bed, I can't live around. 916 00:42:58.079 --> 00:42:59.880 I got to do a walk run up every day. 917 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:00.320 You know. 918 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:03.440 I haven't been to hot yoga in about three months 919 00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:06.880 when I'm about ready to start back. But uh, you know, 920 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.559 my my body is my sanctuary, and I just like 921 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:11.719 you know, waking up feelings. There's a lot of people 922 00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:14.880 I know that having some problems with this and that, 923 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:19.639 you know, diabetes and yeah, conjecting our failure and you know, 924 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.360 we lost a lot of friends during COVID, so you know, 925 00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:27.800 and it's for you know, underlying conditions, so you know 926 00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:29.000 what I mean. I just want to make sure that 927 00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.000 I'm not in that category. And I want to live 928 00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:33.880 a long and fruitful and healthy life. 929 00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.639 Well as someone who's typed you diabetic, who's head open 930 00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:39.840 heart surgery, as you know, I can tell you that 931 00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:41.760 you can you can fight it, and you meet you 932 00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.639 still it's an uphill battle, but I'm glad to hear that. 933 00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:46.159 I'm glad to hear that you get up and out 934 00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:48.760 Sean Woods. It didn't surprise me that Sean Woods were 935 00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:52.440 having a conversation as usual every Wednesday with the Unforgettable 936 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.880 Guard before I shift you over to basketball the NFL 937 00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:59.000 season begins. We talked some NFL last week, and of 938 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.960 course you grew up in any Annapolis and the cultures 939 00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:06.079 still waiting and wondering about Anthony Richardson, the former Florida 940 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.039 Gator who sewan he probably left school a year or 941 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:11.920 two soon. And you know, we can talk and we've 942 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.440 talked money a lot because of NIL and all that. 943 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.280 It's not always about going for the money, though, is 944 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.119 that there are guys who just can't wait to get 945 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.599 started on their pro career. And of course there's always 946 00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:26.719 injury in the back of your mind, especially with football, 947 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:31.079 but so many people would benefit by sticking around a year, 948 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:33.360 and it's it's a little bit easier to make that 949 00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:37.079 decision out of the NIL. But still, can you can 950 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.400 you understand of a guy who's dream of the NFL 951 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:42.880 is right there in front of him. He knew he'd 952 00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:46.119 be a top three pick, but it's still probably wasn't 953 00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:47.639 the right decision, you know what I mean. 954 00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:51.719 Well, yeah, but here's the deal, though, you know, you 955 00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:53.840 got to go when you're hot, no matter. 956 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.400 If you're ready or not. And you know, if the 957 00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:59.000 pros a call and they're saying that that. 958 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:03.039 You're ready and you're a a number three draft pick, 959 00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:05.199 you can't get any higher that, what do you you 960 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:06.960 know what I mean? And so you just got to 961 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:11.119 you know, praying and really lean on your development once 962 00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:13.960 you get there. But you can't turn down that type 963 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.639 of that type of money because at the end of 964 00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:18.880 the day, life is a business and you try to 965 00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:22.800 maximize it, maximize it, especially financially, as much as you can. 966 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:27.320 And these young guys now coming out of college, you know, 967 00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:31.480 nil is one thing and uh, you know, you try to, 968 00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:33.679 you know, maximize it as much as you can. You know, 969 00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:36.840 look at you know, she way, you know who tried 970 00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.280 to maximize it and stay as well as he could. 971 00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:41.880 And he did a great job of it. And he's 972 00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.239 still in development, but he had a great year rookie 973 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.639 year as far as you know in the D League 974 00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:50.079 and then you know, coming up and getting ten days 975 00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:52.800 in there with with the Pacers. But you know it's 976 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:54.519 a different world now. You know, you got to look 977 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:58.519 at it, you know, saying long term short term. And 978 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.559 with football, you know, if you get just for you 979 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:05.760 to go, I think you got to go. And with basketball, 980 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.079 you know you can wait a little bit. But you 981 00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.480 know it's just an iffy if some kids don't like school, 982 00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:13.320 no I know that. 983 00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.800 Yeah, yeah, so right. 984 00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:18.320 You know they're trying to get to the money as 985 00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:19.360 quick as possible. 986 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.559 And you know, now you have to go to school 987 00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:24.840 for at least one year, so you know they want 988 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:26.960 to they'll do that and then they're out of there. 989 00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.440 But you know, it's just a lot of people you know, 990 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:33.039 train and ever since you know, eight nine, ten years. 991 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.159 Old to be a pro, not to be in college. 992 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.239 And you know, once you get an opportunity to do that, 993 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:41.880 you know they take full advantage of it. 994 00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.280 You make a good point because if you stay in 995 00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.880 school a year, that's a year of earning power that 996 00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.119 you that you pass up in the professional ranks. But 997 00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:54.920 on the other hand, if you go early, you might 998 00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:58.280 not get to a second or third contract, which is 999 00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.360 where the huge money is. So it is a gamble. 1000 00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:04.000 I get that. But the other thing to remember, I 1001 00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:09.079 keep reminding myself Sean, it's not are you ready to go? 1002 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:11.880 Are you ready to play in the NFL or the NBA? 1003 00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.039 It's is there a team ready to take you and 1004 00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.800 develop you and be patient with you? 1005 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:18.719 You know? 1006 00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:23.880 And I think that and that's where the interpersonal communication comes, right. 1007 00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:27.960 You got to talk to these franchises and make them 1008 00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.400 convince you that they're not going to give up. 1009 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:34.719 On you exactly. You know, allah Ree Shepherd, you know, 1010 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.280 you know he's a third ticking in the NBA draft. 1011 00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:42.639 Yeah he's ready. I doubt it, but you know he 1012 00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:44.760 had to go. You can't turn down that type of 1013 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:49.079 money and that type of opportunity. And he loved college. 1014 00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.000 You know, he wanted to be a UK not just 1015 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.519 a you know, student athlete, but just a student and 1016 00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:56.199 enjoy the life of. 1017 00:47:56.280 --> 00:48:00.320 Being they could and going to the UK, and it 1018 00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:03.679 was just too much to turn down. And you know, 1019 00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.599 you can't blame it, you know, And you know, you 1020 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:08.599 got to remember these guys are still kids, and they're 1021 00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:11.920 under twenty one, and you're going into a grown man's League, 1022 00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.079 and you're dealing with guys that do grown men things 1023 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:19.159 you know, right wrong, going different, and sometimes it could 1024 00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:20.960 be lonely out there, you know what i mean, unless 1025 00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.360 you got some family that's gonna be with you, you. 1026 00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:24.239 Know, through the times. 1027 00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.400 You know, when you're on the road and guys are 1028 00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.239 going out at night, you can't you're sitting in your room, 1029 00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:33.239 and you know, sometimes camaraderie is built in the night 1030 00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:35.239 life with these young kids, you know what I'm saying. 1031 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:37.719 So you know you miss out, you're not part of 1032 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.639 the gang. You know, they're looking at you a little different, 1033 00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:42.920 you know what I'm saying. So it can be lonely 1034 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:46.920 sometimes as a rookie too. Now, don't don't get it twisted, 1035 00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:48.079 you know by any means. 1036 00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:48.320 Man. 1037 00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:50.880 It's just something that you have to go through. Is 1038 00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:54.360 growing pains, you know, but you're you're making you know, 1039 00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:55.559 ten million dollars. 1040 00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.760 You know in two years you'll be a vet and 1041 00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:03.119 that money be stacking up. So it's just everything's a sacrifice. 1042 00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:06.519 I remember reading Kobe Bryant's comments about what it was 1043 00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.840 like when he was a rookie, because obviously he skipped college, 1044 00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:12.559 went right out of high school. He said, My teammates 1045 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:16.000 were twenty nine thirty thirty one. You're old men with families. 1046 00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:18.280 They're all going off to the clubs that I can't 1047 00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:23.039 get into. So yeah, it's not entirely easy. Sean Woods 1048 00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:25.719 is our guest. He visits with us every Wednesday. We'll 1049 00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:29.119 come back and talk basketball with the unforgettable guard here 1050 00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.239 in a minute on the Big Blue Sider six thirty 1051 00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:35.679 WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with Sean Woods, a former 1052 00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:39.679 Kentucky Wildcat guard who visits with us each and every Wednesday, 1053 00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:45.800 and Jasper Johnson decision looms large this week. I thought 1054 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:49.960 Malachi Moreno was a must get for Mark Paul, but 1055 00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:53.760 do you see the Jasper Johnson situation the same way. 1056 00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:57.599 Everything is a must get. If you're the top player 1057 00:49:57.599 --> 00:49:59.960 in the state of Kentucky and you and McDonald's all America, 1058 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.239 you have to go to Kentucky. If you're in the 1059 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:06.760 state of Kentucky, you don't miss those because they don't 1060 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:10.760 come around as much. Uh So, yeah, I think it's 1061 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:13.119 big to get one of the top five players in 1062 00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:14.800 America that's in your state. 1063 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:16.239 You got to keep him home. 1064 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.039 But we keep here in Alabama. We keep hearing the 1065 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:23.360 n I l looms large. It's a different era, different age. 1066 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.599 You're right, you know, and uh but you and you 1067 00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:30.360 and you and and one, and it's one of the 1068 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:33.400 toughest basketball leagues in America and you don't want to 1069 00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:37.280 let you know, a prestigious player like that get away 1070 00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:38.840 and he comes in your house and you got to 1071 00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:42.119 play him every day, come in and beat you. So 1072 00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:45.800 you know, I I think he's important. I think you know, 1073 00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.760 from a family standpoint, you know, their roots are here Kentucky, 1074 00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:50.639 even though it was on the other side of the 1075 00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:54.760 of campus with football. But you know, you got to 1076 00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.639 keep those Johnses in and and and they're they're blue bloods, 1077 00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.360 you know, and you got to make it right to 1078 00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.719 attract and keep blue blood here in Kentucky. And I 1079 00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:07.519 would love to see him, you know. I hate that 1080 00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.679 he's you know, didn't stay at Woodford County and played 1081 00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:12.880 for a buddy of mine, like a little brother of mine, 1082 00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.280 you know, John Brown and your dad is the ad. 1083 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.000 But that's you know where I talk about money. You 1084 00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:20.920 know you're going to places for money, you know what 1085 00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.239 I'm saying, and not to build a legacy. And that's 1086 00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:25.800 what scared me right now, is that if. 1087 00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:28.800 You if Kentucky is not good enough for you to 1088 00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:32.519 go to high school, you know because of money, it's 1089 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:34.599 Kentucky gonna be good enough for you to go to 1090 00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:35.840 college because of money. 1091 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:39.760 Yeah, well there are deeper pockets available at the University 1092 00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:42.239 of Kentucky though. But you know what you make You 1093 00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:45.719 make a great point because we were talking in the 1094 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.880 office several years ago at w KYT about high school 1095 00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:53.440 basketball in the states of Kentucky and Indiana used to 1096 00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.199 be it. I mean, that's where you went for high 1097 00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:58.559 school talent. I don't know about Indiana, but it's not 1098 00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:02.559 that way anymore in Kentucky. But Sean, I truly believe 1099 00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:05.480 it is because the best kids, when they start getting good, 1100 00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.960 they leave the state. Rajian Rondo left the state, Jasper 1101 00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:11.360 Johnson left you. You know, there's a long list. I 1102 00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:14.599 was so pleased and Malachi stayed here. But it's not 1103 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:15.400 the same, is it. 1104 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:18.280 No, Because you know these high school kids are going 1105 00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:21.400 to prep school and getting money, getting in IL money. 1106 00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:25.360 So you know in IL is like I said, is 1107 00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:29.679 trickle down to the high school level. And you know, 1108 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:31.519 tradition is nothing anymore. 1109 00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:33.519 You know, I went to the Indiana Kentucky All Star 1110 00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:35.199 Game and there was nobody at. 1111 00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:39.639 Kentucky in Lextionon Catholic for the Indiana Kentucky AFLO game. 1112 00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:39.880 Yeah. 1113 00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:44.159 Yeah, it used to be used and used to play 1114 00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:46.840 that Freedom Halle and it would be a pact place. 1115 00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:48.679 And then you go back and you. 1116 00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.360 Play at Martinus Square Arena wherever they play at. It'll 1117 00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:55.280 be ten, twelve, fifteen, fourteen thousand. You have probably four 1118 00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:58.519 hundred people at the Lexton Catholic deal, and then when 1119 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:00.440 it went to Indiana it was about seven thousand. 1120 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.519 Wow, it's still something. But you know, and I remember 1121 00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:06.840 because I went to a lot of those. You'd go 1122 00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:08.800 to see the recruits. You'd go to see this kid 1123 00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:11.719 is signed with Kentucky. That kid has signed with Louisville, 1124 00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:14.280 that kid has signed with IU or Notre Dame. It 1125 00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.800 was a great preview. And now you're like, who's this kid? 1126 00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:18.440 You know? 1127 00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:21.239 Yeah, you know, and then you know it's not even 1128 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.079 attractive enough to keep the best players to have him played. 1129 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:25.239 Yeah yeah, you know. 1130 00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:28.000 Reeve Shepherd didn't played two years ago. The kid that 1131 00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:31.920 transferred from from Hazard, I mean from Harlan, he didn't 1132 00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:35.199 play this year right, you know, I mean, where's the 1133 00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:37.119 pride of Kentucky at you know, as far as high 1134 00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:39.719 school basketball? I mean, that was the thing you dream 1135 00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:42.159 of being a high school basketball player high school? You know, 1136 00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:46.199 all state guy and especially all star, playing in the 1137 00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:49.440 prestigious Indiana Kentucky All Star Game. And you know these 1138 00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:52.559 guys are you know bypassing that? So you know where 1139 00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:53.280 are we going with this? 1140 00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:56.119 Yeah, if you're not mister basketball, you're not interested. I 1141 00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:58.960 guess a couple of minutes left with Sean Woods, I 1142 00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:01.719 know that whatever Jazzer Johnson does, he likely will spend 1143 00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:06.039 one year in college. Would you be in favor? I know, 1144 00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.280 as a coach, you'd probably love it. I wonder how 1145 00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:11.639 you would have felt about it. We Well, it's hard 1146 00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:13.519 for you to relate because this wasn't happening when you 1147 00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:17.599 were playing. But what about when you signed with a 1148 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:21.159 school you signed for two years? Do you think that's feasible? 1149 00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.360 I think it is from a contractual standpoint. In IL, 1150 00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:28.880 you got something's got to give because these boosters and 1151 00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:34.440 alumni who are giving money to, you know, help out 1152 00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:36.880 in IL. Come on, what type of investment is that 1153 00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:41.400 I'm investing in a kid? I remember, now, only one 1154 00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:47.119 team wins the national championship. Okay, and you got these 1155 00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:52.519 schools with five ten million dollar budget with nil and 1156 00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:59.320 they're not even winning their conference. Remember where a coach 1157 00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:02.400 Saban said, you can spend money on a bad player, 1158 00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.639 And that is what it is right now. You're playing 1159 00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:11.800 Russian roulette. Yeah, you're gambling, and you're gambling on guys 1160 00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:14.960 that aren't aren't that good, you know, you're gambling on it. 1161 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.239 You know, some of these guys are getting moved up 1162 00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:20.679 from the major level schools to high level of schools 1163 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:25.000 and they're asking for a million dollars. Come on, and 1164 00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:28.280 they're not even projected to be a pro, but you're 1165 00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.360 paying them millions of dollars to come you know what 1166 00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.280 I'm saying. And you have to just to have a 1167 00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:36.599 decent player on your team. So you know, what are 1168 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:39.159 we doing? You know what I'm saying. You know, there's 1169 00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:42.280 only so many draft picks, there's only so many pros. 1170 00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:44.599 Only one team is going to win a national championship. 1171 00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:45.920 Only one team's gonna win. 1172 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:47.519 The conference championship. 1173 00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:54.199 But you have every school, especially Power five, that are 1174 00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:56.760 trying to raise millions of dollars to pay these kids 1175 00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.760 to win maybe twenty games. 1176 00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:01.960 Everybody's not gonna win. 1177 00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:04.559 Good point. 1178 00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:07.880 But your your your your, your salary cap is getting 1179 00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:12.239 to almost like an NBA salary Yeah yeah, very much. 1180 00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:16.320 So you know, just think of all the millionaires that 1181 00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:19.320 are playing in the NBA right now that again drafted 1182 00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:22.599 to bad teams. Oh yeah, bad teams because you got 1183 00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.079 bad players. Oh yeah, that you're paying means and millions 1184 00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:28.320 of dollars too. And then the good teams have good 1185 00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:31.599 players that are staying under the salary cap that the 1186 00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:35.159 players for like they're underpaid because they're helping this team win. 1187 00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:39.519 So you know, a vicious cycle. And you know the 1188 00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:42.559 thing too, You could have a good team, uh and 1189 00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:47.119 manage your salary schedule, but then if you win a championship, 1190 00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:49.400 everybody wants to get paid even more. So now you've 1191 00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:53.000 got to break your team up so that it's just 1192 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:53.840 like the Crows. 1193 00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:57.079 You winn NASAL, win the World championship. Then guess what 1194 00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:02.800 that team, you know, disperses because the contract graituation. That's right, well, 1195 00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:04.840 trickle Coles dedare. 1196 00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:07.360 It's a different age and Sean Woods helps us sort 1197 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.280 it out every week right here, Sean, thank you so much, 1198 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:11.599 and we'll talk to you next week. 1199 00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:13.599 Okay, appreciate it. 1200 00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:17.679 Man, Western Bureau Chief Gary Moore in the garage next 1201 00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:21.199 here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big 1202 00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.400 Blue and Cider. We are in the garage. If you 1203 00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:26.400 joined us earlier, you heard that our Western Bureau chief 1204 00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:29.440 is with us every Wednesday. Gary Moore is with us 1205 00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:33.400 here live and in color on tape, and welcome back 1206 00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:36.000 to the garage. And each week we go through half 1207 00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:39.159 a dozen topics you have cleverly labeled. 1208 00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:41.280 Two guys and a six pack. It's good to be 1209 00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:43.639 back here in the les. It's part of my work 1210 00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:48.239 release program over in Louisville. I'm here, so yes, we 1211 00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:52.280 have six topics every week and we call them SIPs 1212 00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:54.280 actually for two guys and six pack. And our first 1213 00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:57.639 sip here is well for anybody who didn't partake of 1214 00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:01.760 five consecutive days of football this past week, you got 1215 00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.639 another shot starting tomorrow, so don't blow it knits. 1216 00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:05.039 Okay. 1217 00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:12.000 NFL giving us the AFC Championship rematch Baltimore, Kansas City 1218 00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:16.360 tomorrow night NBC kickoffs about a twenty and if you 1219 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.559 like the pregame stuff that started six months ago basically, 1220 00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:21.000 so jump on in. 1221 00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:22.840 And as for you, you. 1222 00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:29.639 Stockholder, you have the Packers Green Bay Philly in Brazil, 1223 00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:33.920 Sal Paulo City with what four million. 1224 00:58:33.679 --> 00:58:34.599 More people than New York? 1225 00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:34.840 Did I? 1226 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:35.639 Did I see that right? 1227 00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.920 And a country that has banned Twitter or X what 1228 00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:42.159 do you want to call it? And they are going 1229 00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:45.559 to prosecute people for trying to get to X as 1230 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.679 I understand it, as much as eight thousand dollars. 1231 00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:50.320 A time. 1232 00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.360 So let me give you some questions here about both 1233 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:57.559 of those games. Here, can Kansas City three pete? Will 1234 00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.239 the Chiefs use one or more of Taylor Swift's. 1235 00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:01.320 That he's drying up? 1236 00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:06.199 And conversely, well Andy Reid write songs for Taylor's next album. 1237 00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:09.480 It seems like it'd be a fair, if not disastrous deal, 1238 00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:14.880 you know. And why play an opening week major NFL 1239 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:18.559 matchup in a South American city so dangerous to walk 1240 00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:23.960 around in and with air practically unbreathable that they're going 1241 00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:26.760 to go ahead and do it anyway instead of maybe 1242 00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:30.000 putting and not even putting on regular TV. It's streamed, Peacock. 1243 00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:33.280 Yeah, well we all know about why it's streamed. I mean, 1244 00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:36.599 it's forcing our fan base to ours being the Packers. 1245 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.519 But you know, I've talked about this ad nauseum. Now 1246 00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:42.559 when I keep going back to Notre Dame Toledo four 1247 00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:45.679 years ago, I think it was the opener for the Irish. 1248 00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:48.920 Was only on peacock. I said, folks, that's the future. 1249 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:49.639 Yep, you're right. 1250 00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:53.159 Jon Skipper has said, and I'll repeat it, that someday 1251 00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:55.119 the super Bowl will be pay per view, and he's 1252 00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:57.440 not wrong. I'm not sure how soon it will be. 1253 00:59:58.079 --> 00:59:59.920 As for why they're playing it, I got to think 1254 01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:07.079 because the Olympics was fairly successful in Brazil, they can 1255 01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:09.719 get away with this. And by the way, there was 1256 01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:14.000 a hoax for a while that neither team would be 1257 01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:18.239 allowed to wear green because that is the color of 1258 01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:22.719 the arch animey chief soccer team of that city. But 1259 01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:27.039 there's some gangs gang really apparently that's not true, you know. 1260 01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:30.920 But yeah, I know they're trying to expand their worldwide footprint, 1261 01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:32.880 but man, this is a reach. Literally. 1262 01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:35.840 There's a lot of nervous players. Yeah, and some of 1263 01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.000 them have been very vocal about it. Do you bring 1264 01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:40.039 your family right? Well, some of them aren't, and some 1265 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:41.920 of them they've already got a list of here's what 1266 01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:45.159 you don't do while you're here walking around, because obviously 1267 01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:48.400 these are big humans walking around and they're going to 1268 01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:50.960 be targets for certain kind of nefarious shople. 1269 01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:51.960 I would think down there, but. 1270 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.320 What about when my kids are when I'm working and 1271 01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:57.159 my kids are right sightseeing with my wife or whatever. 1272 01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:00.719 That's what's great about London and Dublin and you know, 1273 01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:03.519 you know one of the saveest cities in world, Tokyo. 1274 01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:05.679 I was just gonna say, Japan, Yeah, why wouldn't you 1275 01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:05.960 want to go? 1276 01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:08.400 Maybe try that? Or Australia. 1277 01:01:08.559 --> 01:01:11.679 Yeah, our second sip In the six packs For other 1278 01:01:11.800 --> 01:01:16.039 NFL games Sunday and Monday, there's some pretty interesting matches. 1279 01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:18.920 Matchups and the Titans and the Bears on Sunday, Bears 1280 01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:21.719 four and a half point favorites with Mayo cologne wearing 1281 01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:26.119 Will Levis of Tennessee with the debut of the Ramblin 1282 01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:28.360 Scramblin Caleb Williams. You know it's gonna be a lot 1283 01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:31.119 of eyeballs on that one. Check this one out. In Florida, 1284 01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:34.880 the Jags at the Dolphins. Dolphins three point favorites, got 1285 01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:37.440 a Clemson QB versus a Bama quarterback should be a 1286 01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:41.239 lot of fun. My Seahawks. Also on Sunday, they're at 1287 01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:44.360 home against the Broncos and six point favorites. Bo Nicks 1288 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.960 making his debut for Denver, who lost. By the way, 1289 01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.679 the last time he was in Seattle with Oregon. Seahawks 1290 01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.119 are going to be in these gorgeous royal blue throwback jersey. 1291 01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:56.480 They already won the costuming Oh yeah game on Sunday. 1292 01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:59.159 Then later on Man. 1293 01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:03.719 Cowboys at the Browns. Brown's two and a half point favorites. 1294 01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:06.519 By the way, last time I checked Tommy Brady's color 1295 01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:11.440 commentating debut, and I'm thinking, okay, this is with Deshaun Watson. 1296 01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:14.480 Can both teams lose in this if you or there 1297 01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:19.440 at least maybe tie. And if Brady is this close 1298 01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:22.880 to being a minority or having any kind of ownership 1299 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.880 with the Raiders, why even let this guy even near 1300 01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:28.760 the press box or you know, getting close to some 1301 01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:30.519 of these teams or whatever. It's kind of hard to 1302 01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:32.719 figure out. Then you got the Rams of Detroit later 1303 01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:37.480 on that day, Monday Night, Jets and your boy Aaron 1304 01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:40.960 Rodgers at the Niners. Niners three and a half point favorites. 1305 01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:43.880 There are actual bets. I understand if Aaron will make 1306 01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:46.360 it past four plays, which I'm not. 1307 01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:47.480 That's a prop. 1308 01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:49.960 I'm gonna touch that one. Which of those or any others? 1309 01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.960 Are you looking forward to ignoring your your honeydew list 1310 01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:53.480 of things? 1311 01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:57.400 Well, I want to see Dallas lose, obviously, I'll be 1312 01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:00.239 curious in tune in Brady. Yeah, a lot of people will. 1313 01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:02.960 I'm sure we'll. We'll enough people tune in to retire 1314 01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:05.239 the debt of three hundred and forty five million dollars 1315 01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:09.840 that Fox owes him. How much? Again, I think his 1316 01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:12.960 total deal is like three and forty three and fifty million, 1317 01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:17.679 but I don't know how many years. Curious for Tennessee Chicago. 1318 01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.039 I want to see what Levis does. And I want 1319 01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:24.559 to see the Bears. QB had some spectacular plays, but 1320 01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:27.760 not a lot of them in a row in preseason. 1321 01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:31.800 But he's got the entire Bears nation just going nuts, 1322 01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:35.519 going out of their minds. I want to peek at 1323 01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:38.800 the Rams Detroit. How good is Detroit? They're scary? 1324 01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:42.880 You know, I got a prediction about them later on. Okay, 1325 01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:45.079 so we'll save that for the sixth on there, that's right, 1326 01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:47.760 But yeah, of course, the Jets and the Niners. That's 1327 01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:51.440 going to be Oh yeah, speaking of eyeballs, yeah, third 1328 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:52.280 swig and the six pack. 1329 01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:53.599 Okay, let's talk college football. 1330 01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:57.079 Obviously, UK and U of L passed their Week one tests, 1331 01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.599 beating Southern Miss and Austin Pete respectfully by a combined 1332 01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:02.800 total of ninety. 1333 01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:03.760 Three to zip on Saturday. 1334 01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:08.719 Conversely, my Hilltoppers, my alma mater, and e KU both 1335 01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:12.000 played SEC schools Bama and Mississippi State and lost by 1336 01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:14.159 a combined one nineteen to seven. 1337 01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:15.719 And what timing. 1338 01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:19.519 Eastern and Western revisit that once intense one double, a 1339 01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:22.719 rivalry that's definitely cooled over the years. That's gonna be 1340 01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:24.280 done in Bowling Green on Saturday. 1341 01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:26.679 They haven't seen. 1342 01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:29.039 I didn't see as spread for this yet, so I 1343 01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:31.639 know that Western were probably the favorite at home, and 1344 01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:33.840 they should win. It's at seven o'clock Saturday night down 1345 01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:34.519 in Bowling Green. 1346 01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:36.639 There might not be as spread since it's one a 1347 01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:37.480 versus one double. 1348 01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:38.199 That's true too. 1349 01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:43.119 Cards and Cats both have kickoffs at three thirty Saturday afternoon. 1350 01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:45.960 Of course you'll be down there for that, and the 1351 01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:48.840 Cats at last check ten point favorites. I believe over 1352 01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:49.840 South Carolina. 1353 01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.840 Revenge, must have revenge. Forget that game. 1354 01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:55.719 Oh man, they should have won that one last year. 1355 01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:56.000 Yeah. 1356 01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:01.880 Number twenty two Louisville has another basic, glorified scrimmage with 1357 01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:06.079 the new Conference USA school Jacksonville State Cards a twenty 1358 01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:08.960 eight point favorite. So we're gonna take the Cats and 1359 01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:10.880 the Cards and the Toppers this weekend. 1360 01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:11.480 Yeah, I believe. 1361 01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:11.599 So. 1362 01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:14.960 I think Western Kentucky, as is usually the case with 1363 01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:19.119 FBS versus FCS depth because they have more scollies. Yeah, 1364 01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.039 and hard, hard to get a line on ek on 1365 01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:23.519 either team after those openers. 1366 01:05:23.719 --> 01:05:26.119 Yeah, well, I tell you when I was at Western, 1367 01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:28.960 that was the rival ry game. Roy Kid would come 1368 01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:32.199 in or Jimmy Fix would take the guys to hangar field. 1369 01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:37.440 Roy was a different guy at practice Western week We'd 1370 01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:40.400 go over It was different guy. Oh yeah, it's huge. 1371 01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.239 What was on ABC for AC come in and coverage 1372 01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:46.519 Fourth Swig and the six Pack. Besides those three games 1373 01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:48.599 of bluegrass interest, there are a couple of others on 1374 01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:52.239 Saturday with two ranked teams facing off against you. So 1375 01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:53.800 we had a whole bunch of ranked teams playing each 1376 01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:55.280 of the last weekend. Only a couple this week, and 1377 01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:58.639 the Biggie of course, number three Texas at number ten 1378 01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:03.599 Michigan in the Big House. That's seven o'clock at high noon. 1379 01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:07.840 I'm sorry, that's at high noon on Fox, and Texas 1380 01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:09.880 is a seven point favorite. I had my numbers here, 1381 01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:12.519 so high noon on Fox for that one, uh seven 1382 01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:14.880 point thirty. You got the number fourteen Valls and number 1383 01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:18.079 twenty four North Carolina State that's on ABC. And before 1384 01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:21.159 any of those, you know, I would normally have ESPN 1385 01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:23.639 Game Day on leading up to noon, like I did 1386 01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:26.400 this past week, but I got to put a pause 1387 01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:30.079 on this. I think just after week one, game Day 1388 01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:33.360 has jumped the shark. Oh yeah, I think because it's 1389 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:36.519 gotten so bloated and so full of itself and there's 1390 01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:38.519 so many people now part of it. Well, for example, 1391 01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:41.719 I turned it on Saturday morning. First thing I see 1392 01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.480 is a commercial for one of the worst campaigns we've 1393 01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:48.800 talked about this Fanville, the new Fanvilt Doctor Pepper commercial 1394 01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:52.199 props up. Then that's right there with that mini key. 1395 01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:53.280 Guy and the Emu li. 1396 01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:57.679 The Limu Emu is the worst ad campaign. So I'll 1397 01:06:57.719 --> 01:06:59.920 go back and I'm watching Premiere Soccer. I come back 1398 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:02.599 and there's a country music guy singing some really sad 1399 01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:06.679 song by himself, completely inappropriate for the crowd. So I 1400 01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:09.039 leave that, go back to soccer. I come back in 1401 01:07:09.199 --> 01:07:12.239 Pete Thammil, great reporter. Yeah he's in a fly fishing 1402 01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:13.119 costume outfit. 1403 01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:14.400 What is this? 1404 01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:17.599 Go back to soccer, Come back more commercials. Go back 1405 01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:18.599 to soccer. Then I come back. 1406 01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:21.960 Pat McAfee has taken off his shirt and jacket and 1407 01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:24.719 he's topless. I don't want to see that. He's hugging 1408 01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:27.480 Saban over here. At least Saban dropped the S bomb, 1409 01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:31.400 and you had Coach Corso picking Notre Dame over a 1410 01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:33.000 and m to kind of salvage the whole thing. 1411 01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:36.039 But I'm done for now. This is just so bloated anymore. 1412 01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:36.800 The signs were. 1413 01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:39.920 Good, they usually are. Yeah, best part of the show. 1414 01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:41.840 Yeah, I agree, But there's just so many people in 1415 01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:43.719 so many games. There's so much stuff going on. 1416 01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:45.519 Yeah it is. 1417 01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:49.400 Yeah, So that's my take on that. Can move on 1418 01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:52.920 to the fifth wig here it's talk basketball. Got to 1419 01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:56.800 talk some basketball. Last night, Caitlin Clark and the Indiana 1420 01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:01.599 Fever YEP clinched a playoff berth without even playing right 1421 01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:04.679 Their first time the playoffs in eight years, and it 1422 01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:08.039 was because of Chicago and Atlanta losing. So tonight they 1423 01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:11.239 are playing on a cable channel most people have. It's 1424 01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:15.199 going to be on CBS Sports Network. You've got well, 1425 01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:18.039 she is for me the shoe in for in WNBA 1426 01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.239 Rookie of the Year. She also gets my vote for MVP. 1427 01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:23.800 So they're going to be playing the La Sparks seven 1428 01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:26.359 to twenty five. It's the first of six home games 1429 01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:28.800 in a row for the Fever. They got a six 1430 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:33.199 game homestand and I misspoke last week. I think last 1431 01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:34.720 week I said that they only have two more games 1432 01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:36.840 left before the playoffs, had two more games left in August, 1433 01:08:37.159 --> 01:08:40.239 so now they've got seven total including tomorrow night. This 1434 01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:43.199 past week, just to give you an update, Caitlin Clark 1435 01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:46.159 became Player of the Week. She set the rookie record 1436 01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:48.199 for three pointers. She helped the Fever get over five 1437 01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:50.960 hundred for the first time since June of twenty nineteen, 1438 01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:55.880 and inadvertently apparently ended a friendship between former WNBA star 1439 01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:59.680 Chryl Swoops and Nancy Lieberman. But don't been following this, 1440 01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.439 but Cheryl doesn't think that Caitlyn's all that. Nancy, of course, 1441 01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:05.199 like any saint human, says yes, she is all that, 1442 01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:07.239 and so they've got a little bit of a problem there. 1443 01:09:07.319 --> 01:09:07.520 Yeah. 1444 01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:11.319 So Caitlin now counts for thirty seven points in scoring 1445 01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:15.720 every game, forty four percent of their points every night. 1446 01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:18.600 I ask you, if she gets both Rookie of the 1447 01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:22.359 Year and MVP, how many more friendships can she potentially ruin? 1448 01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.359 I could see her, Yes, clearly for that stat you 1449 01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:28.479 just gave as the MVP. You know, Lisa Leslie floated 1450 01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:31.800 on Twitter x the notion and I could get behind this. 1451 01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:35.359 How about Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark's sharing a Rope 1452 01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:37.840 of Year? Yeah, you can make an argument, Yeah you 1453 01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:39.840 could both if you really can, because there are two 1454 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:45.239 completely different types of player. They contribute into distinct ways, 1455 01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:48.520 and they're both incredibly valuable to their teams. 1456 01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:49.119 I could see that. 1457 01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:52.760 I think in terms of overall MVP, I always try 1458 01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:54.800 to look at not just who has the best stats, 1459 01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:57.960 but who is the league's MVP? And I think it's 1460 01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:02.279 I think it's clearly Caitlyn Clark. But it's definitely a 1461 01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:07.359 bird magic situation with these two. Yeah, but there were 1462 01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:10.399 other great talented players in that League. But I keep 1463 01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:12.680 banging a drum over and over. If you're going to 1464 01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:17.479 bash them, that's bad business. Yeah, you're a businesswoman. Let 1465 01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:21.159 these both of these kids help you make money, and 1466 01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:24.640 they are. They are hand over fist now, yeah, watch 1467 01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:27.000 the fever tonight. This is a team that's rolling. They're 1468 01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:30.079 like six and one since the Olympic break. And maybe 1469 01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:33.039 Debbie Intonelle's calling the game now, a Hall of Famer 1470 01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:37.880 former UK marketing director, and I was her first broadcast partner, 1471 01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:40.159 so I'm very proud of her. Had her on the 1472 01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:43.279 show not long ago, and she has been witnessed all. 1473 01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:45.479 This sixth and final swig. 1474 01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:49.439 So we've got tomorrow's Kansas City and a bomber rematch 1475 01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:52.479 that begins a season in the NFL that shall end 1476 01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:56.720 with who Dick Gabriel in Super Bowl fifty nine February ninth, 1477 01:10:56.800 --> 01:10:58.920 twenty twenty five, done, New Orleans. I am gonna go 1478 01:10:59.079 --> 01:11:03.359 with two teams that I picked even before Sports Illustrated 1479 01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:08.039 picked them. Detroit Cincinnati. Wow, I've got the Lions winning 1480 01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:10.680 thirty five to twenty seven, which means it will be 1481 01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.600 the Niners in Kansas City, repeating against what that means. 1482 01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:16.439 I would love that I really would. I would love 1483 01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:18.399 it for Detroit. I would love it, of course for 1484 01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:20.960 the Bengals, because if I'm not rooting for my Packers, 1485 01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:24.199 I'm rooting for the Bengals. But I will say what 1486 01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:26.439 a lot of people said prior to last year, which 1487 01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:30.600 I thought was premature. I will say the Chiefs and 1488 01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:32.600 my Packers, Well how about that. 1489 01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:34.600 I'm glad you said that because I brought you something 1490 01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:36.279 that might help you get into this. 1491 01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:37.600 Oh my, what we got here? 1492 01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:40.000 This is something that was from the collection here. This 1493 01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:42.920 is a uh oh, I guess it's kind of a 1494 01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:46.319 replica thing these This is a football jersey, Thank you 1495 01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:49.960 so much that came out in the like nineteen ninety four, 1496 01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:53.119 ninety three that Champion made these. They made one for 1497 01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:57.119 name of John Unidas and Paul Horning. This is number 1498 01:11:57.199 --> 01:12:01.600 five Paul Louisville yep, flaje A high and I warn 1499 01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:04.159 it like maybe once I wore it. Actually the Fox 1500 01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:07.760 Sports I've got a picture with Howie and David Hill 1501 01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:10.520 and James Brown and some of the other guys there, 1502 01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:13.039 and I said, you need to have this, so maybe 1503 01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:14.479 this will help you get the Packers. 1504 01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:16.680 Thank you there, Thank you very much. And of course 1505 01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:18.960 I've told the story that when I found out Paul 1506 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.880 Horning was from Louisville, that's what made me a Packers fan. 1507 01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:23.880 So wow, I really appreciate that. 1508 01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:26.199 Enjoy It's very heavy show. I won't wear it for 1509 01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:28.720 a few more weeks. I think it's big enough. I 1510 01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:31.079 think the size is okay. But you know, like I said, 1511 01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:33.359 I once I had it dry clean, it's been sitting. 1512 01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:35.199 On a crash diet. If I had a use way 1513 01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:38.760 to get into this. Gary moorees in the garage bearing gifts. 1514 01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:41.760 Let that be a listen to all of you future 1515 01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.039 guests who want to be in the garage, and we'll 1516 01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:45.880 come back with the hot rage in just a minute. 1517 01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:49.720 Here on the Big one Sider six thirty wlap Welcome Back, 1518 01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:52.119 final segment of our program. Gary Moore is live and 1519 01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:54.600 in color. Right here in the garage. We have heard 1520 01:12:54.680 --> 01:12:57.239 two guys in a six back time for a couple 1521 01:12:57.319 --> 01:13:01.600 of hot reads to throw at Gary. Gary us opened tennis. 1522 01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:04.880 There are always a lot of great stories, but one 1523 01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:10.760 of the sadder stories is what happened with Yulia Puttin's Eva, 1524 01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:15.079 who treated a ball girl with contempt. I don't know 1525 01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:18.359 if you saw the oh, man, who do you think 1526 01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:22.880 you are? This young woman was trying to pass tennis 1527 01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:26.560 balls as that is their job to her, and would 1528 01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:29.960 flip her the ball and she never even attempted to 1529 01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:32.920 catch the balls and just let them fall to the 1530 01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:37.880 ground and then stared at her. And it was really 1531 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:45.479 really awkward and unfortunate. She is from Russia Kazakhstan and 1532 01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:47.800 just glared at the girl with her arms down by 1533 01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:51.960 her side. Now, eventually she did catch one, and people 1534 01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:54.920 at Flushing Meadows, to their credit, jeered her. You can't 1535 01:13:54.920 --> 01:13:57.439 get away with that in New York, man, But she 1536 01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:03.560 eventually apologized, but never sought out. The girl never sought 1537 01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:07.880 out of that name. I don't know, man, I don't 1538 01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:10.720 remember anything like this ever happening at the US Open there. 1539 01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:12.880 I mean Macenrolle blowing up, that's one thing. 1540 01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:16.920 Right, This was just inexcusable. Inexcusable. I saw that, and 1541 01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:19.800 she was like stood there like a statue while this 1542 01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:21.359 girl was throwing balls and just let kind of let 1543 01:14:21.399 --> 01:14:23.520 her bounce off of her. Didn't even make an attempt 1544 01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:25.760 to get any of the balls. I think I saw 1545 01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:29.359 two or three of them. And New Yorkers, who you know, 1546 01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:33.600 have patented awful behavior for since the beginning of time. 1547 01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:35.720 Are not going to put up with that, right, not 1548 01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:39.800 in the sporting sense of it. I couldn't believe what 1549 01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:43.159 I was seeing. And I've You've covered a lot of 1550 01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:47.199 tennis people. I've covered tennis people, tennis people, and baseball 1551 01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:51.199 young tennis people, prodigies, baseball prodigies. Two of the least 1552 01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:53.039 favorite people have ever wanted to cover in my life 1553 01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:57.319 because they've been coddled ever since, you know, grade school 1554 01:14:57.520 --> 01:14:59.960 or even nursery school, all the way up there. 1555 01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:00.640 Uh. 1556 01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:03.439 I had not really good success with some of the 1557 01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:05.680 tennis people that covered out there that would come to 1558 01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:08.800 UCLA or whatever. Although I did get to cover Bjorn 1559 01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:09.479 Borg in the scene. 1560 01:15:09.560 --> 01:15:10.560 Wow, that's very cool. 1561 01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:12.079 I had a beer with bjorn Borg. Now, that was 1562 01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:12.600 pretty cool. 1563 01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:15.520 I don't know anybody on this planet who can say that. 1564 01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:20.239 Mel Purcell for Murray H. Mel was in the Senior 1565 01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:22.600 the tour thing that Jimmy Conners had gotten back in 1566 01:15:22.640 --> 01:15:26.600 the nineties, came to LA withorn Borg. 1567 01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:29.720 He's a Kentucky Athletics Hall of Fame member, so that's 1568 01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:32.479 how I got to meet him. So I got out, Well, 1569 01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:35.880 if she's got any essential I read someplace where Russians 1570 01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:38.720 are just obviously built dipperately. This is somebody I think 1571 01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:40.640 it pointed out to her that she had done the 1572 01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:43.239 wrong thing. So anyhow, maybe the next time she comes 1573 01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:46.039 to the open, she'll uh seek out that young girl 1574 01:15:46.119 --> 01:15:49.840 and uh actually got booed. Yeah, exactly right. Uh our 1575 01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:52.079 second high read and once again Gary Moore is right 1576 01:15:52.119 --> 01:15:55.560 here in the garage with us loving it. Well good, 1577 01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:59.039 I'm glad to hear that. Florida State h and two. 1578 01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:02.439 Now the memes are fantastic. It happened to a nicer school. 1579 01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:06.199 Well that's my point. Uh, you know, we're too good, 1580 01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:09.119 We're too big for the ACC. You don't deserve us. 1581 01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:13.000 And guess what Florida and a lot of teams have 1582 01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.399 started going to They might turn around and have a 1583 01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:18.319 very nice season. They won't, probably not. They just don't 1584 01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:22.920 look very good. But they are the first team in 1585 01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:26.279 the history of college sports to say or have it 1586 01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:30.000 said about them. Hey, there goes the seventeenth place team 1587 01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:30.800 in the ACC. 1588 01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:33.159 Isn't that great? 1589 01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:36.199 Because there's so many in the act and there's gonna 1590 01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:38.119 be somebody in the Big ten's got what I don't know, 1591 01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:39.359 sixteen yeah, that's gonna be. 1592 01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:42.039 I had to go back and count I thought the 1593 01:16:42.119 --> 01:16:45.800 big the big ten quote unquote was no, the ACC 1594 01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:49.359 But all those teams on the Atlantic coast like SMU. Yeah, 1595 01:16:50.479 --> 01:16:52.319 but Florida State right now. 1596 01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:54.920 Here, they were complaining last year, Well we didn't get in. 1597 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:55.960 We should we deserve to get in. 1598 01:16:56.159 --> 01:16:58.680 No, if you had your third string quarterback had gotten 1599 01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:02.439 more than sixty yards against u of L, you might 1600 01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:04.359 have gotten in there. If you had even that hundred 1601 01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:06.640 yards passing, you probably would have gotten in. You had 1602 01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:09.720 the worst third string quarterback, not one of the best teams. 1603 01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:11.079 They were not, absolutely not. 1604 01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:13.159 And if there is a silver lining for the rest 1605 01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:16.399 of us to all this, we will stop hearing about 1606 01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:18.920 that because if they had won the first two games, 1607 01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:21.840 Florida State fans, could you know, turn around and go, see, 1608 01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:25.119 we belonged in the playoff last year. Well, I'm not 1609 01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:28.119 saying you know, I have my opinion. I'm not saying 1610 01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:29.800 you did or you didn't. I didn't think you did. 1611 01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:33.960 But now just move on and drop this stupid lawsuit. 1612 01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:35.359 And had that Georgia game turn out for you last 1613 01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:38.479 year at the end, so you could prove everybody wrong, right, Clemson. 1614 01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:41.079 How that Georgia game taste this year? So that's another 1615 01:17:41.119 --> 01:17:44.079 team involved in the lawsuit. Thank you so much, sir. 1616 01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:47.199 We are appreciative of the fact that you have come 1617 01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:48.239 to the garage. I love it. 1618 01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:50.199 And what a great man cave. This guy's got the 1619 01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:51.640 greatest man cave anybody I know. 1620 01:17:52.359 --> 01:17:54.600 That's it. Thanks to my guest, Thanks to John Hale, 1621 01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:58.079 thanks to Shawn Woods. Good night from the garage and Lexington. 1622 01:17:58.000 --> 01:17:59.359 Sure Fisher, let me ask you something. 1623 01:18:01.159 --> 01:18:02.399 Six. Have you missed a play like that? 1624 01:18:03.319 --> 01:18:03.520 Six? 1625 01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:05.600 The ball jumped out of as soon as we make 1626 01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:06.520 count down for a number. 1627 01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:07.680 What you were talking about? 1628 01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:07.720 You? 1629 01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:10.000 If you want to field now watch