Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Oh, guess what day it is?
Speaker 3: Guess what day it is?
Speaker 4: Huh anybody, It's hump Day. Yeah, it's hump Day. It
Speaker 4: is Wednesday. Dick Gabriel with you on an edition of
Speaker 4: the Big Blue Insider unlike any other, because for the
Speaker 4: second day in a row, we're gonna have somebody live
Speaker 4: on tape here in the garage with us. Our West
Speaker 4: End bureau chief Gary Moore, who usually visits with us
Speaker 4: via zoom, is right here in the garage. We're gonna
Speaker 4: hear from Gary coming up in just a few minutes,
Speaker 4: and then we will hear two guys in a six pack,
Speaker 4: as we always do on Wednesday, coming up in our
Speaker 4: number two. It is Wednesday, so we will also hear
Speaker 4: from Shawn Woods, our West End bureau chief, Gary Moore,
Speaker 4: Shawn Woods, both of them join us on Wednesdays. But
Speaker 4: John Hale also will join us here. John, of course,
Speaker 4: the beat writer for the Harold Leader covering Kentucky football.
Speaker 4: We'll get his thoughts on the water logged, rain soaked
Speaker 4: wind over Southern miss and what's coming up with the
Speaker 4: South Carolina. The Wildcats spoke to the media yesterday about
Speaker 4: those game Cocks. They look back on the Golden Eagles
Speaker 4: and a head to sc Bush. Hamden, the offensive coordinator
Speaker 4: said he was very pleased with the way his team
Speaker 4: hung in there mentally and dealt with what they had
Speaker 4: to deal with, and he also pointedly said he liked
Speaker 4: what he saw from one of the biggest question marks
Speaker 4: going into the game, that's the offensive line. I thought
Speaker 4: they did a nice job. They really did. They played
Speaker 4: extremely hard.
Speaker 5: I was very pleased with the ability to run the ball,
Speaker 5: you know, when we needed to, and certainly on the
Speaker 5: explosive plays.
Speaker 4: It always starts with.
Speaker 5: Those guys up front, and so the ability for them
Speaker 5: to hold up in protection gave us time to throw
Speaker 5: the ball down the field, and I thought that was impressives.
Speaker 4: I would think the Big Blue Nation would agree with them,
Speaker 4: because just about everything went right after that opening drive
Speaker 4: for the Wildcats, including spreading the ball around. Yeah, there
Speaker 4: were big plays by barryon Brown and Dane Key, as
Speaker 4: you might expect. But so we got to see Fred Ferrier.
Speaker 4: Everybody was talking him up in summer camps from Mark
Speaker 4: Stoops on down, including his teammates. Fred Ferrier just, you know,
Speaker 4: nothing spectacular yet, but he can play. He showed that.
Speaker 4: But also Jimori Macklin, the kid who started at Missouri,
Speaker 4: had two great years in North Texas and then came
Speaker 4: into electionon and looked I thought, really sharp against the
Speaker 4: Southern miss What a great option to have for Brock
Speaker 4: Fandergriff and being a veteran of SEC play, Macklin knows
Speaker 4: that the team coming in Saturday, South Carolina, even though
Speaker 4: the game Cocks struggled against Old Dominion, Yeah, they are
Speaker 4: better than Kentucky's opening opponent.
Speaker 6: They got a really good D line and they got
Speaker 6: some taller, longer dv So we just got to play
Speaker 6: up to our level.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 6: We know that they get their good team and they
Speaker 6: beat us the past couple years, but we know that
Speaker 6: we're a better team.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: We just got to go out there shower. He's right.
Speaker 4: The South Carolina defense, really the team begins with the
Speaker 4: D line, and you know what, so does Kentucky's I
Speaker 4: think we all saw that. We knew that going in,
Speaker 4: but I thought Kentucky's D line set the tone on
Speaker 4: Saturday night. Somebody's got to set the tone and they
Speaker 4: did that. So it's going to be fun. We'll have
Speaker 4: the game for you right here. Speaking of fun, I'm
Speaker 4: sure a lot of you watched the LSU Southern col
Speaker 4: game on Sunday night. I did you know growing up,
Speaker 4: I was a big Southern cal fan. That's right, oh,
Speaker 4: J Simpson. I followed them because UK wasn't anything. U
Speaker 4: of L wasn't anything. EKU wasn't yet the powerhouse that
Speaker 4: it became. So I followed two teams. I followed Southern
Speaker 4: col and Penn State and two of the most iconic figures.
Speaker 4: The iconic figure in Penn State history Joe Paterno. Of course,
Speaker 4: he had his fall from grace, although I will say
Speaker 4: he did not deserve what happened to him down the stretch.
Speaker 4: I felt like he needed to be replaced because he
Speaker 4: just should have done more. But I'm kind of by
Speaker 4: the fact that I interacted with him a couple of
Speaker 4: times and I really liked him. He treated me very well,
Speaker 4: very professionally. But yeah, he should not have gone out
Speaker 4: the way he went out. Southern Cali course, OJ and
Speaker 4: also a powerhouse team that should have remained as such
Speaker 4: but just fell apart. But look good the other night,
Speaker 4: And if you go to the interweb you can find video.
Speaker 4: It's on TikTok and I think it's been shifted over
Speaker 4: to Twitter as well. USC players dancing in the locker
Speaker 4: room mocking LSU. Apparently the Tigers have a favorite dance
Speaker 4: they like to do on the sidelines in the locker room,
Speaker 4: and Southern Cow's kids were doing it in their locker rooms.
Speaker 4: They were having a big time, no question about that.
Speaker 4: Shifting over to college baseball for just a minute. Ben
Speaker 4: Joyce of the La Angels recorded the fastest strikeout ever,
Speaker 4: tracked the fastest strikeout pitch one hundred and five point
Speaker 4: five miles per hour. That name might sound familiar. Ben
Speaker 4: Joyce pitched at Tennessee and he wasn't a superstar. He
Speaker 4: was there in twenty one and twenty two, and believe
Speaker 4: it or not, he came from junior college. He came
Speaker 4: from Walter State Community College and hurt himself after that.
Speaker 4: Red shirted as a sophomore at Tennessee. Actually played just
Speaker 4: the one year at Tennessee because he red shirted as
Speaker 4: a sophomore. Walter State Community College is the fine institution
Speaker 4: that gave us mister Neil Price, who for ten years
Speaker 4: was the voice of Kentucky baseball and women's basketball and
Speaker 4: now is the voice of Mississippi State football and men's basketball.
Speaker 4: So Ben Joyce came up to Lexingon in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: two pitched against the Wildcats, and he did not go along.
Speaker 4: He was really really short relief for Tennessee would rarely,
Speaker 4: if ever, went more than two innings. Against the Wildcats.
Speaker 4: He went one third, maybe one inning, and I remember
Speaker 4: that he recorded a couple outs, and people were really overmatched.
Speaker 4: But a guy named Hunter Jump, who had transferred in
Speaker 4: played just the one year, came in from Arizona State.
Speaker 4: Was an outfielder. This guy was probably the best contact
Speaker 4: hitter in Kentucky's lineup, and by that I mean could
Speaker 4: basically get the bat on the ball against anybody. And
Speaker 4: I turned to whoever was next man said, Hunter Jump's
Speaker 4: gonna make contact on this guy because other batters just
Speaker 4: couldn't even catch up with him. Hunter Jump cranked one
Speaker 4: that almost left the ballpark, cranked at the deep right
Speaker 4: field on Ben Joyce. But you knew Joyce wouldn't be
Speaker 4: around long, And sure enough he was drafted by the Angels,
Speaker 4: and then he stayed just briefly in the miners and
Speaker 4: they brought him up. And now with all this talk
Speaker 4: about pitcher's throwing too hard, trying to get too much speed,
Speaker 4: hurting their arms. He's kind of the benchmark right now.
Speaker 4: In fact, according to their technology, through the fastest pitch
Speaker 4: ever recorded one hundred and five and a half miles
Speaker 4: an hour. Important to remember, and my man Doug Flynn
Speaker 4: has pointed this out on more than one occasion where
Speaker 4: they measure the pitch now in terms of the speed
Speaker 4: is out of the pitcher's hand, not what it's doing
Speaker 4: as it crosses the plate. Obviously it's going to be
Speaker 4: a little bit slower. Hey, it's all relative, isn't it.
Speaker 4: And here's the other thing. You can throw it up there,
Speaker 4: one hundred miles an hour, but if it's flat, it
Speaker 4: may leave the ballpark. Joyce, if you see the pitch
Speaker 4: he threw that was recorded last night, that's got movement,
Speaker 4: any kind of movement on a pitch that hard, it's
Speaker 4: going to be impossible to hit. So yeah, think about that,
Speaker 4: Kentucky fans, if you were in the ballpark when Ben
Speaker 4: Joyce through against the Wildcats, he is now, in terms
Speaker 4: of the radar gun, the fastest pitcher in the history
Speaker 4: of the Major leagues. Up next, Gary Moore joins us
Speaker 4: here in the garage for a brief preview of two
Speaker 4: Guys in a six Pack. We'll talk sports with Gary
Speaker 4: at the bottom of the hour. John Halo, the Herald
Speaker 4: Leader here on six point thirty WLAP, welcome back to
Speaker 4: the garage. And as we promised, Gary Moore, welcome to
Speaker 4: the garage.
Speaker 7: I can't believe I'm actually this is your garage here.
Speaker 4: This is well, look to your left, that's my car.
Speaker 2: This is the garage.
Speaker 7: This is really really awesome, actually it is. And again
Speaker 7: this is very cool.
Speaker 4: I should have told you to bring you laundry because
Speaker 4: the washer dryer they're behind me.
Speaker 2: I don't have to get up.
Speaker 7: This is the same seat that Rex Chaplin has set
Speaker 7: it and some very famous human beings.
Speaker 4: Tom Leach said, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm honored. I'm very honored.
Speaker 4: He had Jojo Camp early in the week ran wild
Speaker 4: over South Carolina. That's right, yeah, ten years ago. And
Speaker 4: he'll be opening our broadcast on Saturdays. So yeah, more
Speaker 4: and more people are dropping by. We're glad to have him.
Speaker 4: But Gary will be along and hour number two as
Speaker 4: well for two Guys in a six Pack. But I
Speaker 4: wanted to basically reach just because people ask me about you.
Speaker 4: They're like, he's your what now you're well, I said, well,
Speaker 4: he used to be my West Coast Bureau chief back
Speaker 4: when you worked there. But god, you were telling me
Speaker 4: it was when did you get the election.
Speaker 7: In It was, I believe late August nineteen eighty.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 7: So we go back forty four years and in fact,
Speaker 7: even before I was coming up here in the fall
Speaker 7: of seventy nine, forty five years ago, when I was
Speaker 7: a senior at Western and I was dating a young
Speaker 7: leag here at UK and uh living over in the
Speaker 7: Greg Page apartments. I read there behind Commonwealth Stadium, right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: they're fairly newer. I mean it just opened back then,
Speaker 7: and I was coming up here then, listening to Kay,
Speaker 7: listening to you guys on VLK. Of course you're listening
Speaker 7: to fans in the stands, and Leonard's loses. Well, I
Speaker 7: missed Leonard, I was.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 7: Leonard was still around for those pre games, but all
Speaker 7: that stuff, and I didn't even think that a year
Speaker 7: later I'd be, you know, working here. It was such
Speaker 7: a big deal for this, you know, small minded, you know,
Speaker 7: I got to I grew up in Murray, so my
Speaker 7: mind is kind of like this.
Speaker 4: Big people in Murray, I forget.
Speaker 7: Well, now there's probably in the city about twenty thousand,
Speaker 7: probably in the counties probably up to fifty is something
Speaker 7: like that with the university. But when I was there
Speaker 7: growing up, it was about maybe ten twelve thousand, you know.
Speaker 4: Land grand institutionswells.
Speaker 7: The numbers of the Murray Murray State was about it
Speaker 7: was never got more than six seven thousand enrollment. And
Speaker 7: then you know, once they cracked the eight thousand barrier,
Speaker 7: it's like whoa big time Now look out UK.
Speaker 4: So you come to town. You were writing commercials, is
Speaker 4: that recalled?
Speaker 7: I was writing commercials, doing a I think one weekend show,
Speaker 7: DJ show, music show on Sundays. So I was doing
Speaker 7: like Sunday through through Friday. Yeah, and Ken K Towers.
Speaker 4: And you guys continuities what it's called. Your office was
Speaker 4: right next to the newsroom, so we bumped into each.
Speaker 2: Other all the time, exactly.
Speaker 4: And you quickly let it know. And you were a
Speaker 4: big sports fan.
Speaker 7: And you quickly let it know that you were a
Speaker 7: black belt, I believe at the time, and of course
Speaker 7: that I would do one of these and I'm like ha,
Speaker 7: And all you did was like kind of look at
Speaker 7: me like, don't even go there, grabbed my hand and
Speaker 7: did some sort of crawl maga thing or whatever, what
Speaker 7: do you call it? And I think I still I
Speaker 7: never was able to write properly after that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was great.
Speaker 7: I was here for about six months, then went to Louisville,
Speaker 7: and then was in Louisville for about four years and
Speaker 7: then went out to LA.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: I remember we stayed in touch a little bit when
Speaker 4: you were in Louisville, and like I said, though, the
Speaker 4: next thing I know, or like you said, you're moving
Speaker 4: out to LA And somehow we reconnected out there because
Speaker 4: when I went out to visit my close friend Harry Miller,
Speaker 4: I visited you as well. Yeah, and you took me
Speaker 4: through the radio station, which was in the same building
Speaker 4: as Channel two the CBS.
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, yeah, that's right I was at. I was
Speaker 7: at the station at the time was KCBSFM became Arrow
Speaker 7: ninety three.
Speaker 4: All stations did you work for out there?
Speaker 7: Well, I started a KFI, which was the big one
Speaker 7: hundred thousand blowtorch am station out there, and that's why
Speaker 7: I started getting all the Yeah, it was a clear
Speaker 7: channel station like a whas or something like that, they're
Speaker 7: fifty are they Okay? This was like we would get
Speaker 7: calls from people in Chicago something. One time I got
Speaker 7: a tape of myself from a guy in Norway because
Speaker 7: the signal has skipped, yeah, on the other side of
Speaker 7: the planet and geez it was a main yeah throughout
Speaker 7: all the Western America. Well, the Dodgers were on KFI
Speaker 7: for so many years and so that was like they're popular. Yeah,
Speaker 7: That's how KFI really got up in the ratings was
Speaker 7: because of of the Dodgers and that's in that signal.
Speaker 7: But that's where And then after KFI, I went to
Speaker 7: the station there. I was on Sunset historic building that
Speaker 7: you were in that we were in when you were there,
Speaker 7: because that's where they had all these great radio programs.
Speaker 7: Jack Benny had his show there down there and in
Speaker 7: the auditorium where it was right where Channel two was
Speaker 7: that the CBS affiliate before TV.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly about the time TV was coming along, and
Speaker 4: people would gather around the radio.
Speaker 7: And they had a recording studio in there too, So
Speaker 7: the Birds, Buffalo, Springfield, Simon and Garfunkle Beach Boys, a
Speaker 7: lot of other people recorded down there in that studio area,
Speaker 7: and then they brought in the TV station. Well, I
Speaker 7: think the TV stations already in there by the time
Speaker 7: the music stuff was going on. But then above us
Speaker 7: was at AM K and x A M. And then
Speaker 7: the FM station where we were were on I think
Speaker 7: like the fourth floor. And then I got to do
Speaker 7: mornings there. And you know, for a kid from Main
Speaker 7: Street Murray, Kentucky, to look out on Sunset Boulevard and
Speaker 7: see the sunrise literally every day looking east out of
Speaker 7: these nice art deco, you know, porto windows, it was
Speaker 7: something else. It's still one of the great experiences.
Speaker 4: Well, it would amaze me. I guess this is not
Speaker 4: a reflection on you or your ability. I guess it is.
Speaker 4: But you kept telling me, like you'd write me a
Speaker 4: letter or whatever about format changes, and you survived so
Speaker 4: many of them. Yeah, people came and went in that industry,
Speaker 4: and yet you always landed on your feet.
Speaker 2: I don't know how.
Speaker 7: I mean, I tried to get along with everybody at
Speaker 7: the time. And then I went over to KOs which
Speaker 7: was the last time when you've really started doing a
Speaker 7: lot of this, and I was there for twenty two years. Wow,
Speaker 7: And I went through I don't know, like six seven
Speaker 7: program directors general managers.
Speaker 4: And that's what gets me. All the different pds who
Speaker 4: all have a better idea, you know, but none of
Speaker 4: them said, let's get rid of this guy. But as
Speaker 4: I've explained to people, you were the West Coast Beards
Speaker 4: because you and I when we kept in touch, we
Speaker 4: kept talking about, man, it would be great to do
Speaker 4: something together. Yeah, and even though you were on the
Speaker 4: other side of the country, once technology caught up with us,
Speaker 4: we were able to hook up. I love it and
Speaker 4: and that's when you became because we would always find
Speaker 4: some reason for you to be on an Alexion radio
Speaker 4: show from Los Angeles. But I tell people one of
Speaker 4: the true, if not the high point of this very
Speaker 4: radio show, with due respect to all my guests, was
Speaker 4: the night that you and I remember we were anchoring
Speaker 4: the show at I think it was Hooters, but you
Speaker 4: were sitting you said, guess where I am, And you
Speaker 4: were sitting in the dugout of the National League All Stars,
Speaker 4: not just at the game, but in I think it
Speaker 4: was San Francisco.
Speaker 7: It was two thousand, summer, two thousand and seven, that
Speaker 7: was the All Star game. Yeah, so I got to
Speaker 7: call it Dick again, you're aware I need to call
Speaker 7: Dick rub it in here because I'm sitting here with
Speaker 7: all the Cardinals because you know, that was two thousand
Speaker 7: and six they won the World Series. So that Larusa
Speaker 7: and all those guys. The next year, whoever wins the
Speaker 7: World Series in October the next year, that manager gets
Speaker 7: the Well, some guys think that it's it's it's an honor.
Speaker 7: Most of them would rather be vacation from what I've
Speaker 7: been able to find out. But there was Tony LaRussa
Speaker 7: and of course Pooholes and all these guys. We were there,
Speaker 7: We're hanging out, and so I thought, I think Dick
Speaker 7: might want to know where I'm at right now, so
Speaker 7: let's just kind of call it.
Speaker 2: That was very fun. Yeah, that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: That was.
Speaker 7: And I'd been there before for the two thousand and
Speaker 7: two World Series, so that's a great, great stadium. They
Speaker 7: put the press people or US press people, way up
Speaker 7: on the highest level, up on the top, but at
Speaker 7: San Francisco, that's kind of where you'd like to be
Speaker 7: because then you've got the panoramic view of the entire bay,
Speaker 7: of the the Bay Bridge and all that stuff, the
Speaker 7: you know, the San Francisco Bay and all that Oakland's
Speaker 7: over there, and you can just see the ship's going like, oh,
Speaker 7: I've been staring at the ocean. There's a game still
Speaker 7: going on down here, which is the easy to do.
Speaker 7: It's just beautiful. That's the most beautiful scene. I mean,
Speaker 7: I love Dodger Stadium, don't get me wrong. It's like
Speaker 7: second home to me. But San Francisco, man, what of you?
Speaker 4: I used to introduce you, Maybe I still should as
Speaker 4: someone with all of this on your resume, And I've
Speaker 4: explained to people that you were, for lack of a
Speaker 4: better term, a rock and roll DJ. Yeah, Yellow West,
Speaker 4: but you could get media credentials to just about anything
Speaker 4: because nobody else at the station cared right.
Speaker 7: That's true, and it was happened by accident. When I
Speaker 7: first came here. I left Louisville in eighty five, and
Speaker 7: by the summer of eighty six, I was working for KFI,
Speaker 7: the big am station there, and our sports guy Chris Roberts,
Speaker 7: who would go on to be the play by play
Speaker 7: guy for UCLA basketball and football for several years. He
Speaker 7: was doing sports, but he didn't have any sound. I goes,
Speaker 7: do you do you not get any you know, any
Speaker 7: interviews with yeah, any soundbites from any of the players.
Speaker 7: He goes, no, no, we can't. I can't go out
Speaker 7: there for it. I go, well, I'll do it if
Speaker 7: you want me to. He goes, okay, you want to
Speaker 7: go out there.
Speaker 4: He was always at the station.
Speaker 7: He was always at the station, and I guess he
Speaker 7: had family stuff going on. He couldn't get out there
Speaker 7: all the time. So he says, look, I'll give you
Speaker 7: tape recorder. Here's here's the taper, here's a press pass,
Speaker 7: and you put this in Tommy las Shorta's face and
Speaker 7: you ask him questions. You don't be afraid because you're
Speaker 7: You've got as much right there as all these other guys.
Speaker 7: And you go out there and you go get them. Boy,
Speaker 7: okay talk.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 7: So many times Tommy Lasorda was holding court. I wish
Speaker 7: I could tell you some of those stories. Most of
Speaker 7: them involved profanity and some rather blue humor off the air.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you so.
Speaker 7: But uh, that was that was incredible. That was the
Speaker 7: you know, after that whole eighty five series where they
Speaker 7: you know, getn't pitched it to a Jack Clark the
Speaker 7: following summer from that, so that's when it all started.
Speaker 7: And then I just I just kept going getting Lakers
Speaker 7: media credentials and so cool all that stuff, and then
Speaker 7: transferred that onto the other stations.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh man. Uh And like I said, uh, he's
Speaker 4: got roots here in Kentucky. We would make excuses to
Speaker 4: have him on from it, but it was you know,
Speaker 4: national stuff. We would just right like we do now. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're two guys in a six pack. But it's been
Speaker 4: fun and Gary's been a regular part of our show.
Speaker 4: And because it's Wednesday, we talked with Gary middle of
Speaker 4: the week. We look at what happened over the weekend,
Speaker 4: we set up the upcoming weekend, and we're gonna do
Speaker 4: that as well. I got about thirty seconds. But how
Speaker 4: late did you stay up with the UK and the
Speaker 4: rain delay?
Speaker 7: Till right as they were calling it? So I was
Speaker 7: there back and forth. Yeah, yeah, I was going back
Speaker 7: and forth with that I had to do. And again
Speaker 7: I was staying up late last night watching the Vidgers.
Speaker 7: This is like a regular thing with me. Whoever's I've
Speaker 7: just but I had to see what's.
Speaker 2: Going on with that. I wanted to find out, you know.
Speaker 4: But with the rain delays, you could step out for
Speaker 4: twenty or thirty minutes, check another game.
Speaker 2: Colet's do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, coming up in just a few minutes,
Speaker 4: John Hale of the Herald Leader, we'll talk Entucky Football
Speaker 4: Hour number two, Sean Woods and Gary rejoins US Live
Speaker 4: and the Color from the Garage on six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Big Blu Insider And as promised,
Speaker 4: mister John Hale from the Herald Leader. Who I guess, John,
Speaker 4: are your shoes dry? Finally? I mean if you if
Speaker 4: you finished your ringing out anything that got soaked on.
Speaker 4: Are we able to avoid all that on Saturday?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I was actually able to avoid It was weird timing
Speaker 8: because I got there my normal two hours or whatever
Speaker 8: before the game, and the weather looked fine, and I
Speaker 8: saw people standing outside the stadium and just stop. They
Speaker 8: had to open the gate hit.
Speaker 1: It wasn't until I got.
Speaker 8: To the press box that I realized they were holding
Speaker 8: the opening for lightning. And then I was in the
Speaker 8: press box until it was over. By the time I
Speaker 8: left it, you know, one or whatever it was, it
Speaker 8: was drizzling a little bit, but I had a number
Speaker 8: one major to the car without any issue.
Speaker 1: So I got lucky that way.
Speaker 4: That's a veteran right there. Well, you've had a chance
Speaker 4: to talk to Mark Stoop. Some of the players and
Speaker 4: coaches already had practice this week. What was your take.
Speaker 4: Were you surprised other than the weather by anything, or
Speaker 4: did it unfold the way you thought it would.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought it was pretty predictable. I think the
Speaker 8: most interesting part is, of course Rock vandergriff and he
Speaker 8: looked fine. He looked I think he looked impressive in
Speaker 8: certain ways, but you could tell there was some I
Speaker 8: think first start jitters out there. Some of the those
Speaker 8: hits he was taking, I think was probably for eagerness
Speaker 8: to go out and make a statement in his first game.
Speaker 8: He basically admitted that after the game. How he manages
Speaker 8: that moving forward? Can you know some of the poor
Speaker 8: decisions he made, like the one throw that should have
Speaker 8: been a pick six? The interception is that going to
Speaker 8: get worn down with for us and many people too
Speaker 8: quickly forget how different teams can look from game one
Speaker 8: to even game two, or certainly game one to a
Speaker 8: month later. You look back at that twenty one season
Speaker 8: when they won ten games, and like they barely beat
Speaker 8: Central Michigan in the week first game, and I think
Speaker 8: Central Michigan was like two and ten that season. That
Speaker 8: was not a good Central Michigan team. And Will Levis
Speaker 8: didn't really become Will Levis until that LSU game in
Speaker 8: Week four or five, and so it takes some time occasionally.
Speaker 8: So I thought there were enough positive signs, certainly from
Speaker 8: the half and five minutes that we saw that you
Speaker 8: definitely don't have any more worries after the first game
Speaker 8: than you had going into it.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what surprised me is the amount of
Speaker 4: running by Vandergrid. Not that he ran, not that he
Speaker 4: was good at it, but it was clear that that
Speaker 4: ham Dan dialed up the quarterback run game. He needs
Speaker 4: to see, of course, what he's got against, you know,
Speaker 4: live ammunition. But I was surprised they did it so
Speaker 4: much that they showed a too South Carolina and then, yeah,
Speaker 4: this kid's got to learn to slide, doesn't he.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean we know that a lot of us had
Speaker 8: that same issue at times, and he made it through
Speaker 8: his old first season, but really playing that way without issues.
Speaker 8: But then we know what happened in the second season,
Speaker 8: and in fairness, to Will, I don't think the hits
Speaker 8: that really did him in weren't necessarily him running as
Speaker 8: much as him just not.
Speaker 9: Getting protected very well.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's always a risky endeavor with your quarterback and
Speaker 8: talking offensive players after practice on Tuesday, basically everyone was like, yeah,
Speaker 8: I really jazzed us up, but we went to him
Speaker 8: on the sidelines slide, we need you out there, and
Speaker 8: so like that. That part of it is interesting as
Speaker 8: far as the quarterback run goes, I mean, dating back
Speaker 8: to his introductory press conference, Bush Hampden said that he
Speaker 8: thinks your quarterback has to get you at least two
Speaker 8: first downs a game with his legs, and basically had
Speaker 8: done that by the second series. So I was intrigued
Speaker 8: to see that much too. I think it's going to
Speaker 8: be part of it. But the thing that I still
Speaker 8: have questioned about is we heard so much in camp
Speaker 8: and dating back to the summer about this wildcat package
Speaker 8: they were developing for gap winset back up and how
Speaker 8: much he was going to run, and I thought maybe
Speaker 8: some of that was going to take away from Vandergriff
Speaker 8: designed runs to protect him a little bit, so he
Speaker 8: wasn't taking those hits. We didn't see Wembset at all
Speaker 8: in the half and five minutes they played. He probably
Speaker 8: would have played in the fourth quarter. I assume if
Speaker 8: they had finished that game out. Were there some wrinkles
Speaker 8: in that formation that they were able to hide from
Speaker 8: a team like South Carolina and Georgia coming out or
Speaker 8: is it just a situation that Vander griff is, you know,
Speaker 8: so much better with his arm and clearly can make
Speaker 8: plays with his legs too, that were you know, maybe
Speaker 8: that Webset formation is not We're just not going to
Speaker 8: see it very often other than maybe sure yards go
Speaker 8: on the situation. So that's a question I still have
Speaker 8: moving forward.
Speaker 4: For sure, I think if they had won the first
Speaker 4: four minutes the way Stoops loves to and that third quarter,
Speaker 4: I think we might have seen whim set even sooner
Speaker 4: than the fourth period, just because USM was just so overmatched.
Speaker 4: But you're right, should have had a touchdown on the
Speaker 4: drop pick six. A reminder that often dbacks are converted
Speaker 4: wide receivers because they're not great at hanging on to
Speaker 4: the football. But I wonder John was that it had
Speaker 4: to be in that situation. But is that going to
Speaker 4: be something that they really have to work on in
Speaker 4: that Vandergriff in his first year as a starter, is
Speaker 4: he locking onto receivers? You know? Are they reading his eyes?
Speaker 4: And I know it's not easy to fix, but it's
Speaker 4: easy to recognize, isn't it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's something that I think you're always worried about
Speaker 8: with the first time starter who just doesn't have that
Speaker 8: many game reps. Like that's just something with experience that
Speaker 8: he's going to work through. And I do think it
Speaker 8: was good that it was clearly part of the game
Speaker 8: plan to spread the ball around a lot. I think
Speaker 8: like eight different offensive players got touches either with runs
Speaker 8: or passes. And so when you're able to do that
Speaker 8: and get so many different guys involved, maybe just scheme wise,
Speaker 8: they can avoid some of that. But good defensive acts
Speaker 8: with the SEC defenses they're going to play or they're
Speaker 8: going to be better than what they saw in that
Speaker 8: opener obviously, and they're going to be able to take
Speaker 8: more advantage of that. So for as courage incouraging as
Speaker 8: the first game was for Vandergriff, there's definitely work that
Speaker 8: he still needs to do to play that well against
Speaker 8: better teams.
Speaker 4: I had a comment earlier in the show from Brush
Speaker 4: Hampden from yesterday's news conference where you were about the
Speaker 4: old line, he was pleased. What did you see out
Speaker 4: of the offensive line, because you get a better look
Speaker 4: at it than I do from upstairs.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I thought it was noteworthy that so
Speaker 8: many of the productive runs that they averaged over seven
Speaker 8: yards of carry. It wasn't like guys were running through
Speaker 8: tackles like we saw in the Benis and Nol Chris Rudder,
Speaker 8: because there were just holes there. That one drive in
Speaker 8: the second quarter where Jason Patterson, the running back, the
Speaker 8: freshman was out there, they got twelve yards, eleven yards
Speaker 8: and I don't think he really got touched until the
Speaker 8: you know, the until he got brought down. And so
Speaker 8: that seems to speak well the offensive line. Talking to
Speaker 8: Eli Cox and Marcus Cox to practice on Tuesday, I
Speaker 8: think it seems like there were some pass protection issues
Speaker 8: that maybe didn't manifest because Vandergrif was so good at
Speaker 8: keeping plays alive and moving around in the pocket avoiding
Speaker 8: that well against a team like South Carolina has two
Speaker 8: elite edge rushers, you need to shore that up because
Speaker 8: he's not going to have so much time to do
Speaker 8: that and so that's something I think it sounded like
Speaker 8: the offensive line is kind of zeroed in on as
Speaker 8: improvement from week one to week two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and vander Griff missed a big throw because of
Speaker 4: a little bit of pressure early. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you remember he was he stepped up in the pocket,
Speaker 4: had somebody draped on the bottom of his legs and
Speaker 4: had to throw little Tuesday and as somebody opened out
Speaker 4: on the left sideline and just barely overthrew them. And
Speaker 4: that one, even though it was incomplete, that really impressed me.
Speaker 4: It reminded me a little bit of Levis, you know,
Speaker 4: with contact, he's still able to put some juice on
Speaker 4: the ball.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there were a couple of those. I mean I
Speaker 8: remember one specifically where he kind of rolled out to
Speaker 8: his right and then threw it back across his body
Speaker 8: down the field. It was the past that Barry un
Speaker 8: Brown dropped right before one that ye been the pick
Speaker 8: six like and and Brown should have caught that. Maybe
Speaker 8: it was wet or whatever in the rain, but that
Speaker 8: was a really impressive throw in terms of just on
Speaker 8: the move and seeing an open guy down the field,
Speaker 8: across the field and being able to get it there.
Speaker 8: That's that's the kind of NFL level throw that you know,
Speaker 8: he was hyped to be able to make out of
Speaker 8: high school. So to see some of that in game one,
Speaker 8: I thought was definitely encouraging.
Speaker 4: Well, speaking of Patterson, you somebody that Mark Steubs brought
Speaker 4: up more than once pre season, brought him up after
Speaker 4: the game as well, but you wrote about him, you
Speaker 4: wrote about the fact that he showed he's got some
Speaker 4: things that might make you think about Benny Snell.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, he wears twenty six. That's the first number
Speaker 8: that pops to mind. And you're going to see the
Speaker 8: twenty six out there in the backfield. And it's been
Speaker 8: a while. I mean, Ramon Jefferson more it last year,
Speaker 8: but obvious then of two years, it was year there
Speaker 8: was another freshman retro Church freshman running back whould never
Speaker 8: actually played each transferred who wore it since Benny left.
Speaker 8: But Patterson's basically the first featured running back. It's more
Speaker 8: since Benny and looking it up, it kind of surprised me.
Speaker 8: He's the first freshman running back to have a carry
Speaker 8: in the first half of a game since Benny's freshman season.
Speaker 8: In like, they've just been so veteran at that position
Speaker 8: that they've been able to you know, guys like Chris Rudder,
Speaker 8: you guys and gas smoke. It's Tom McClain and a
Speaker 8: couple other players along that line got carries their freshman year,
Speaker 8: but like Layton blowouts in those big Louisville wins or
Speaker 8: the FCS games or whatever, the fourth quarter they let
Speaker 8: them play while they were red shirty. So we just
Speaker 8: haven't seen this in a while. And Patterson doing it
Speaker 8: in the very first game is something Benny didn't even
Speaker 8: do because if you remember, Benny didn't get a carry
Speaker 8: until Week three in twenty sixteen, those first two weeks
Speaker 8: the only touches he had where he's a kick returner
Speaker 8: is so obviously week three first, on the same he
Speaker 8: tied the school record for touchdowns in the game in
Speaker 8: his first real opportunity. And they're not like I mean,
Speaker 8: Patterson's probably not quite as physical as Benny, obviously not
Speaker 8: many running backs are. But the fact that he's already
Speaker 8: out there, you can't criticize anything that the Missimo Karnbay did.
Speaker 8: In that first game. He averaged seven yards of carry,
Speaker 8: so certainly he did. He's worthy of keeping that starting role.
Speaker 8: And when Chip Trainham comes back, we know that he's
Speaker 8: a physical guy that maybe can shine in some of
Speaker 8: those obvious run situations that they didn't have in Week
Speaker 8: one and they struggled in last year. But I think
Speaker 8: both Patterson and Jamerion Wilcox, the redshirt freshmen, maybe have
Speaker 8: higher ceilings and so it would not surprise me at
Speaker 8: all as we see the season progressed, if they get
Speaker 8: a larger and larger share of the pearies.
Speaker 4: I looked it up back in the day, and I
Speaker 4: think I'm right. Benny Snell's very first game, for all
Speaker 4: the great numbers he put up, you probably know this,
Speaker 4: his very first game is only stat was an assisted
Speaker 4: tackle on a kickoff return or something like that. It's
Speaker 4: just nuts what he produced eventually, and I'd love to
Speaker 4: see where Patterson goes. We'll talk more football with John
Speaker 4: Hale of the Herald Leader in just a moment here
Speaker 4: on the Big Boon Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back.
Speaker 4: We're talking with John Hale, beat writer for the Arow Leader.
Speaker 4: Covers Kentucky football for the most part, covers a lot
Speaker 4: of things, but UK football primarily, and we were talking
Speaker 4: about the run game. John were you surprised they ran.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you call it the jets sweep
Speaker 4: and around whatever you want to call it, both turn
Speaker 4: and hand it off flipping in front of you, which
Speaker 4: is technically a pass. But getting Barry and Brown involved
Speaker 4: that way so often did that surprise you at all?
Speaker 8: It did surprise me as much as they did it, because,
Speaker 8: I mean, it makes sense to try and get very
Speaker 8: on the ball in space, but like the actual run,
Speaker 8: I mean, because we've seen that pitch ahead and plays
Speaker 8: you're talking about before with him, but they actually hand
Speaker 8: it off to him as a rush. I was surprised
Speaker 8: they went to it that early and then go to
Speaker 8: it over and over again. It makes you think that
Speaker 8: there's gotten to be something off that play they're setting
Speaker 8: up for the next few weeks. But clearly there's some
Speaker 8: other wrinkle that they want South Carolina and Georgia to
Speaker 8: have to prepare for, and then you can do some
Speaker 8: other things with the play action whatever. So I'm interesting
Speaker 8: how they moved forward. The fact that the only third
Speaker 8: and short they had in the shortened game was that
Speaker 8: third and two right before the field goal, and they
Speaker 8: gave it the very on on the jet suite, and
Speaker 8: he went over the sideline and had the little skirmish.
Speaker 8: He did not get the first down. Stoops that afterwards,
Speaker 8: if he had realized how close the fourth down was,
Speaker 8: he would have gone for it, but he didn't see.
Speaker 8: They didn't change the gardage marker on the changing quickly
Speaker 8: enough for him to tell. So that like that a
Speaker 8: makes me wonder how confident they are in their running
Speaker 8: backs in those situations where everybody knows you're going to
Speaker 8: run the ball and b it it. You know, says
Speaker 8: a little bit about and very on. I think his
Speaker 8: increased physicality and willingness to take contact, because that's frankly
Speaker 8: been an issue for him in the first two years.
Speaker 8: He seemed like he was he wasn't really good to
Speaker 8: go over the middle or go in the situation where
Speaker 8: he knew he was going to get hit. So to
Speaker 8: do that in the run game, I think that that
Speaker 8: speaks to some of the progress he's made to you.
Speaker 4: Know, it's interesting when you think about the respective coaching
Speaker 4: staffs preparing for this upcoming game, South Carolina versus Kentucky.
Speaker 4: The Carolina coaches only have two quarters plus five minutes
Speaker 4: of Kentucky video to study You can go back and
Speaker 4: look at Bush Hampden's work at Boise State, at Missouri
Speaker 4: and whatever, but not with this personnel in Kentucky. You've
Speaker 4: got to wonder how much are they going to be
Speaker 4: able to read from South Carolina's win over Old Dominion,
Speaker 4: which was terrible on offense South Carolina, but the defense
Speaker 4: won the game for him, turned them over four times,
Speaker 4: including a fumble towards the end that allowed South Carolina
Speaker 4: to score the game winning touchdown. There's going to be
Speaker 4: a lot more mystery in this one, John, I think
Speaker 4: than ordinary. Do you do? You agree?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I think so definitely. I mean, I'm not sure how
Speaker 8: much more how many more wrinkles that Kentucky would have
Speaker 8: put a film in the second half? Right, they played
Speaker 8: it out anyway because the score was the way it was.
Speaker 8: But I asked Busham of that after Tuesday's practice, Blake,
Speaker 8: is there some advantage that you didn't have to put
Speaker 8: some more on film. It's a balance because yes, there
Speaker 8: are some wrinkles that they didn't show that maybe will
Speaker 8: surprise South Carolina this week or Georgia next week. But
Speaker 8: the downside of that is the plays they did put
Speaker 8: on film, you probably want to run those two or
Speaker 8: three more times to hiron out any keys. You have
Speaker 8: to make sure you just get the operation and to
Speaker 8: work through things, and it gives your players more reps
Speaker 8: and making sure you're operating those plays at peak efficiency.
Speaker 8: So they lost that part of it, but I do
Speaker 8: think they gained some mystery. I mean, like the Wimset
Speaker 8: wildcat stuff comes to mind immediately, like nobody's seen that,
Speaker 8: so they don't know what they're going to do with that.
Speaker 8: No Bush Ransom wildcat with Ashton Gent the star running
Speaker 8: back at Boise State, so that's out there. But you know,
Speaker 8: he's a running back and Wimsett as a quarterback for
Speaker 8: his you know, he's not a great passard, but he's
Speaker 8: at least a capable guy who can make plays with
Speaker 8: his arms. So that's a different wrinkle that teams aren't
Speaker 8: prepared for under me.
Speaker 4: And you don't get to work on those plays, the whims,
Speaker 4: that package or whatever in a live game situation. So yeah,
Speaker 4: he's right, there's a better and a better kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Speaking of the South Carolina defense, I don't know if
Speaker 4: you had a chance to watch much of that, but
Speaker 4: not unlike Kentucky, John the d line kind of sets
Speaker 4: the way for South Carolina. That's going to be interesting.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they've got two really really good ed rushers, including
Speaker 8: a five star freshman who in his debut looked every
Speaker 8: part of you know, his recruiting hype, and then a
Speaker 8: veteran guy too, And so it's going to be a
Speaker 8: much more difficult test for this offensive line, like we
Speaker 8: talked a little earlier, but also for broadman Griff he's
Speaker 8: got to figure out how much of that freelancing he
Speaker 8: was able to do in the opener and keep plays
Speaker 8: alive and find guys downfield, how much of that he
Speaker 8: can do, and how much of it he just needs
Speaker 8: to operate more quickly and say like, Okay, this first
Speaker 8: couple of reads aren't open. Maybe he just needs to
Speaker 8: tucket and run. But you don't want to leave the
Speaker 8: door open to a big hit or a sack. So
Speaker 8: I think that's something to watch. And then the running backs,
Speaker 8: are the holes going to be as open? And if
Speaker 8: they're not, do they have guys and healthy guys because
Speaker 8: Chip tradem is not going to play this week either,
Speaker 8: who are capable of you know, going through contact and
Speaker 8: getting your you know, four yards at a time. Which
Speaker 8: is going to be important at SEC games, Like did
Speaker 8: they have those guys? I don't think we know that.
Speaker 1: Based on the open.
Speaker 4: South Carolina ran for one hundred and seventy four I
Speaker 4: think forty something yards was on one play for the
Speaker 4: game only gained two hundred and eighty eight yards. But
Speaker 4: a dangerous quarterback and Leonora sellars in terms of his
Speaker 4: ability to extend plays with his feet. I don't know
Speaker 4: what kind of army has. He didn't have impressive throwing numbers,
Speaker 4: but through the years, we've seen dual threat quarterbacks come
Speaker 4: in here in wreak havoc, haven't we.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean they're trouble for everybody. That's why Vandergriff part
Speaker 8: of the reason he was so effect But I do
Speaker 8: think it helps Kentucky's defense that for now a month
Speaker 8: of camp they've been going against Vandergriff and Gavin Winbson,
Speaker 8: who's a similar quarterback, and as they're running first and
Speaker 8: maybe not a great passer, So they've seen that a
Speaker 8: lot more than they did a year ago. When you're
Speaker 8: going against Devin Leary and practice every day, who's basically
Speaker 8: a statue back there. So like that part of it
Speaker 8: helps a little bit. I mean, Kentucky's front seven is
Speaker 8: so experienced that you would hope that they're used to
Speaker 8: those situations and you know they won't get overwhelmed by
Speaker 8: the moment or the first season game, any of that stuff.
Speaker 8: I'm pretty confident they can slow them round at least
Speaker 8: against most teams, given how experienced and talented that front
Speaker 8: seven is. But those dual threat quarterbacks are always a
Speaker 8: wild card, and we know that that has been an
Speaker 8: issue for them and sometimes in the past.
Speaker 4: South Carolina wins it last year when Kentucky played maybe
Speaker 4: it's worst game of the year all things considered, down
Speaker 4: in Colombia. Do you think there's much hangover from a
Speaker 4: game like that.
Speaker 8: I don't think so, just because the rosters change over
Speaker 8: so much now. I mean, there's so many new transfers
Speaker 8: on this team and are playing big roles that weren't
Speaker 8: here last year. They don't experience. Yeah, but it's definitely
Speaker 8: among the guys who are back. It has to, you know,
Speaker 8: it plays on their mind, Like bery On Brown and
Speaker 8: dan Key have been here this year three and the
Speaker 8: haven't been South Carolina yet and in the last two
Speaker 8: years have been just the absolute ugliest games you could
Speaker 8: have imagined two years ago when Levis was hurt and
Speaker 8: kaya Sharon started there obviously didn't go great. And last
Speaker 8: year after that game in Columbia, that was as dejected
Speaker 8: as I've ever seen Mark Soops after a game. And
Speaker 8: so you know that the coaching staff, the players you
Speaker 8: are back, have a little extra for this and want
Speaker 8: to get back on that win column. And then they know,
Speaker 8: I mean, as much as they try to pretend they
Speaker 8: don't listen to us talk and don't read what we
Speaker 8: write like, they all know that how important this game
Speaker 8: is the future at the schedule, given what lies ahead,
Speaker 8: and if you lose to South Carolina for the thirty
Speaker 8: year in a row, it could go off the rails
Speaker 8: really quickly. This is a really really important game, and
Speaker 8: you just hope that the veterans can manage the acknowledgment
Speaker 8: that it's important without putting too much pressure on themselves.
Speaker 4: Even more important now with division's being gone.
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, absolutely, I mean because you know that you
Speaker 8: know at Georgia that's going to be really difficult. You're
Speaker 8: all your road games are hard. In Florida, we know
Speaker 8: didn't look good Week one, but that's still you got
Speaker 8: to play at the Swamp and they're going to be desperate.
Speaker 8: But then you've got three other top fifteen teams on
Speaker 8: the road, and you get Georgia at home, and so
Speaker 8: that it's just a difficult schedule you if you really
Speaker 8: want to contend for an expanded playoff spot, which is
Speaker 8: what they all said in preseason, is understandable, It's hard
Speaker 8: to imagine a scenario where you can do that without
Speaker 8: being South Carolina.
Speaker 4: I can't remember in my lifetime, are yours when Florida
Speaker 4: and Florida State were so mediocre when it came to
Speaker 4: college football. I'm sure research could dig up at least
Speaker 4: one year like that. But it's a strange time we're
Speaker 4: living in John But I'm just happy to be here.
Speaker 4: John Hale of the herold Leader. Follow him at Kentucky
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Speaker 4: j O, n h el E Underscore HL. John, thank you,
Speaker 4: we will see you at the stadium.
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: Got to do it for hour number one coming up
Speaker 4: an hour number two. Sean Woods, the Unforgettable Guard as
Speaker 4: he joined us each and every Wednesday, and a return
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Speaker 4: six point thirty wlap welcome back to the Big Bluin
Speaker 4: Cider and joining us as he does each and every Wednesday,
Speaker 4: is the Unforgettable Guard. Sean Woods Jersey hangs in the
Speaker 4: rafters of Rupp And we'll talk about basketball here in
Speaker 4: a minute, but college football is underway, coach, and you
Speaker 4: and I have talked about how you rooted for Kentucky football.
Speaker 4: You didn't get a chance to interact with a lot
Speaker 4: of the players when you were here as a ballplayer.
Speaker 4: But did you stick it out to the bitter end
Speaker 4: Saturday night? You can tell me.
Speaker 9: The football game. Yeah, yeah, I didn't go to the game.
Speaker 1: But I'll check it out though.
Speaker 9: You know I did stick it out. And I'll tell
Speaker 9: you what, man, you Cathletics is so exciting now, was
Speaker 9: so colorful. You know, I never imagine me going to
Speaker 9: four baseball games this year, and I had a great time.
Speaker 9: And now, you know, football seasons here and I get
Speaker 9: to tailgate with some old friends that I haven't been
Speaker 9: able to hang out with in a long time and
Speaker 9: just enjoy, you know, college football and the SEC and
Speaker 9: now we're pretty good and students is doing a heck
Speaker 9: of a job, I mean, man, And it's just an
Speaker 9: exciting time just being back living in Lectionington, Kentucky, especially
Speaker 9: with athletics, as far as athletics is concerned.
Speaker 4: You like that tailgating, don't you.
Speaker 9: I love it.
Speaker 1: You know, I was in the HPCU sector, so that
Speaker 1: tailgate is a little different, but it's pretty good. But
Speaker 1: I just I just missed, you know, Kentucky and and being.
Speaker 9: Out there at all the Kentucky fans and people hadn't
Speaker 9: seen it a long time, just hanging out having a
Speaker 9: good time.
Speaker 4: You have not changed much in terms of what you
Speaker 4: look like since you played ball. How often do you
Speaker 4: get recognized all the time?
Speaker 9: You know, you think you're coming in there with a
Speaker 9: hat on in this grocery store or whatever and somebody
Speaker 9: don't recognize you.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 9: My wife was just talking about that not too long ago,
Speaker 9: about you know, people just still know who you are
Speaker 9: and you had this to be and it is because
Speaker 9: these people here in at Kentucky. That's what I was
Speaker 9: telling the TBT guys. They don't forget, you know, they
Speaker 9: they know you can walk in in a place and
Speaker 9: you could be great, such and such man, that's such
Speaker 9: and such right there, man he used to be you know,
Speaker 9: they're telling their son or whatever and so looking like
Speaker 9: a whole.
Speaker 8: Guy in play for UK.
Speaker 9: Yes he did.
Speaker 4: Uh, just tell him to turn on the turn on
Speaker 4: YouTube and you can. That's what's so great about your
Speaker 4: generation is almost everything is preserved, isn't it.
Speaker 9: Yes, it is. And uh, I think just people our
Speaker 9: age just really did a good job of taking care
Speaker 9: of themselves. And you know if he is the new
Speaker 9: thirty so you know, it's just you know, people still
Speaker 9: working out. You know, I don't know nobody, especially in
Speaker 9: my group, that doesn't look good. I mean, Richie Farmer
Speaker 9: looks fabulous, like you can still play. You know, house
Speaker 9: is still housed, Pale is still pale. I mean, you know,
Speaker 9: we had a good time not too long, about two
Speaker 9: three weeks ago, but we all pretty much looked the same.
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, you can tell who we are anyway.
Speaker 4: Of course, when it came to Fisher here, Richie looked
Speaker 4: like he was twenty five when he was in the
Speaker 4: eighth grade, so that was a head start for everybody.
Speaker 4: I remember the first time I saw him playing for
Speaker 4: a Clay County. How old are these guys? A lot
Speaker 4: of them looked that way. But yeah, it's interesting that
Speaker 4: there's just so much more info out there now about
Speaker 4: health and nutrition and exercise, and you know it's on
Speaker 4: you if you don't get it done right.
Speaker 9: Exactly, you know. And me being an athlete, my body
Speaker 9: tells me it's time to get up.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 9: I can't lay in to bed, I can't live around.
Speaker 9: I got to do a walk run up every day.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 9: I haven't been to hot yoga in about three months
Speaker 9: when I'm about ready to start back. But uh, you know,
Speaker 9: my my body is my sanctuary, and I just like
Speaker 9: you know, waking up feelings. There's a lot of people
Speaker 9: I know that having some problems with this and that,
Speaker 9: you know, diabetes and yeah, conjecting our failure and you know,
Speaker 9: we lost a lot of friends during COVID, so you know,
Speaker 9: and it's for you know, underlying conditions, so you know
Speaker 9: what I mean. I just want to make sure that
Speaker 9: I'm not in that category. And I want to live
Speaker 9: a long and fruitful and healthy life.
Speaker 4: Well as someone who's typed you diabetic, who's head open
Speaker 4: heart surgery, as you know, I can tell you that
Speaker 4: you can you can fight it, and you meet you
Speaker 4: still it's an uphill battle, but I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear that you get up and out
Speaker 4: Sean Woods. It didn't surprise me that Sean Woods were
Speaker 4: having a conversation as usual every Wednesday with the Unforgettable
Speaker 4: Guard before I shift you over to basketball the NFL
Speaker 4: season begins. We talked some NFL last week, and of
Speaker 4: course you grew up in any Annapolis and the cultures
Speaker 4: still waiting and wondering about Anthony Richardson, the former Florida
Speaker 4: Gator who sewan he probably left school a year or
Speaker 4: two soon. And you know, we can talk and we've
Speaker 4: talked money a lot because of NIL and all that.
Speaker 4: It's not always about going for the money, though, is
Speaker 4: that there are guys who just can't wait to get
Speaker 4: started on their pro career. And of course there's always
Speaker 4: injury in the back of your mind, especially with football,
Speaker 4: but so many people would benefit by sticking around a year,
Speaker 4: and it's it's a little bit easier to make that
Speaker 4: decision out of the NIL. But still, can you can
Speaker 4: you understand of a guy who's dream of the NFL
Speaker 4: is right there in front of him. He knew he'd
Speaker 4: be a top three pick, but it's still probably wasn't
Speaker 4: the right decision, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, but here's the deal, though, you know, you
Speaker 9: got to go when you're hot, no matter.
Speaker 3: If you're ready or not. And you know, if the
Speaker 3: pros a call and they're saying that that.
Speaker 9: You're ready and you're a a number three draft pick,
Speaker 9: you can't get any higher that, what do you you
Speaker 9: know what I mean? And so you just got to
Speaker 9: you know, praying and really lean on your development once
Speaker 9: you get there. But you can't turn down that type
Speaker 9: of that type of money because at the end of
Speaker 9: the day, life is a business and you try to
Speaker 9: maximize it, maximize it, especially financially, as much as you can.
Speaker 9: And these young guys now coming out of college, you know,
Speaker 9: nil is one thing and uh, you know, you try to,
Speaker 9: you know, maximize it as much as you can. You know,
Speaker 9: look at you know, she way, you know who tried
Speaker 9: to maximize it and stay as well as he could.
Speaker 9: And he did a great job of it. And he's
Speaker 9: still in development, but he had a great year rookie
Speaker 9: year as far as you know in the D League
Speaker 9: and then you know, coming up and getting ten days
Speaker 9: in there with with the Pacers. But you know it's
Speaker 9: a different world now. You know, you got to look
Speaker 9: at it, you know, saying long term short term. And
Speaker 9: with football, you know, if you get just for you
Speaker 9: to go, I think you got to go. And with basketball,
Speaker 9: you know you can wait a little bit. But you
Speaker 9: know it's just an iffy if some kids don't like school,
Speaker 9: no I know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so right.
Speaker 1: You know they're trying to get to the money as
Speaker 1: quick as possible.
Speaker 9: And you know, now you have to go to school
Speaker 9: for at least one year, so you know they want
Speaker 9: to they'll do that and then they're out of there.
Speaker 9: But you know, it's just a lot of people you know,
Speaker 9: train and ever since you know, eight nine, ten years.
Speaker 1: Old to be a pro, not to be in college.
Speaker 9: And you know, once you get an opportunity to do that,
Speaker 9: you know they take full advantage of it.
Speaker 4: You make a good point because if you stay in
Speaker 4: school a year, that's a year of earning power that
Speaker 4: you that you pass up in the professional ranks. But
Speaker 4: on the other hand, if you go early, you might
Speaker 4: not get to a second or third contract, which is
Speaker 4: where the huge money is. So it is a gamble.
Speaker 4: I get that. But the other thing to remember, I
Speaker 4: keep reminding myself Sean, it's not are you ready to go?
Speaker 4: Are you ready to play in the NFL or the NBA?
Speaker 4: It's is there a team ready to take you and
Speaker 4: develop you and be patient with you?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: And I think that and that's where the interpersonal communication comes, right.
Speaker 4: You got to talk to these franchises and make them
Speaker 4: convince you that they're not going to give up.
Speaker 9: On you exactly. You know, allah Ree Shepherd, you know,
Speaker 9: you know he's a third ticking in the NBA draft.
Speaker 9: Yeah he's ready. I doubt it, but you know he
Speaker 9: had to go. You can't turn down that type of
Speaker 9: money and that type of opportunity. And he loved college.
Speaker 3: You know, he wanted to be a UK not just
Speaker 3: a you know, student athlete, but just a student and
Speaker 3: enjoy the life of.
Speaker 9: Being they could and going to the UK, and it
Speaker 9: was just too much to turn down. And you know,
Speaker 9: you can't blame it, you know, And you know, you
Speaker 9: got to remember these guys are still kids, and they're
Speaker 9: under twenty one, and you're going into a grown man's League,
Speaker 9: and you're dealing with guys that do grown men things
Speaker 9: you know, right wrong, going different, and sometimes it could
Speaker 9: be lonely out there, you know what i mean, unless
Speaker 9: you got some family that's gonna be with you, you.
Speaker 3: Know, through the times.
Speaker 9: You know, when you're on the road and guys are
Speaker 9: going out at night, you can't you're sitting in your room,
Speaker 9: and you know, sometimes camaraderie is built in the night
Speaker 9: life with these young kids, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: So you know you miss out, you're not part of
Speaker 9: the gang. You know, they're looking at you a little different,
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying. So it can be lonely
Speaker 9: sometimes as a rookie too. Now, don't don't get it twisted,
Speaker 9: you know by any means.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 9: It's just something that you have to go through. Is
Speaker 9: growing pains, you know, but you're you're making you know,
Speaker 9: ten million dollars.
Speaker 1: You know in two years you'll be a vet and
Speaker 1: that money be stacking up. So it's just everything's a sacrifice.
Speaker 4: I remember reading Kobe Bryant's comments about what it was
Speaker 4: like when he was a rookie, because obviously he skipped college,
Speaker 4: went right out of high school. He said, My teammates
Speaker 4: were twenty nine thirty thirty one. You're old men with families.
Speaker 4: They're all going off to the clubs that I can't
Speaker 4: get into. So yeah, it's not entirely easy. Sean Woods
Speaker 4: is our guest. He visits with us every Wednesday. We'll
Speaker 4: come back and talk basketball with the unforgettable guard here
Speaker 4: in a minute on the Big Blue Sider six thirty
Speaker 4: WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with Sean Woods, a former
Speaker 4: Kentucky Wildcat guard who visits with us each and every Wednesday,
Speaker 4: and Jasper Johnson decision looms large this week. I thought
Speaker 4: Malachi Moreno was a must get for Mark Paul, but
Speaker 4: do you see the Jasper Johnson situation the same way.
Speaker 9: Everything is a must get. If you're the top player
Speaker 9: in the state of Kentucky and you and McDonald's all America,
Speaker 9: you have to go to Kentucky. If you're in the
Speaker 9: state of Kentucky, you don't miss those because they don't
Speaker 9: come around as much. Uh So, yeah, I think it's
Speaker 9: big to get one of the top five players in
Speaker 9: America that's in your state.
Speaker 8: You got to keep him home.
Speaker 4: But we keep here in Alabama. We keep hearing the
Speaker 4: n I l looms large. It's a different era, different age.
Speaker 9: You're right, you know, and uh but you and you
Speaker 9: and you and and one, and it's one of the
Speaker 9: toughest basketball leagues in America and you don't want to
Speaker 9: let you know, a prestigious player like that get away
Speaker 9: and he comes in your house and you got to
Speaker 9: play him every day, come in and beat you. So
Speaker 9: you know, I I think he's important. I think you know,
Speaker 9: from a family standpoint, you know, their roots are here Kentucky,
Speaker 9: even though it was on the other side of the
Speaker 9: of campus with football. But you know, you got to
Speaker 9: keep those Johnses in and and and they're they're blue bloods,
Speaker 9: you know, and you got to make it right to
Speaker 9: attract and keep blue blood here in Kentucky. And I
Speaker 9: would love to see him, you know. I hate that
Speaker 9: he's you know, didn't stay at Woodford County and played
Speaker 9: for a buddy of mine, like a little brother of mine,
Speaker 9: you know, John Brown and your dad is the ad.
Speaker 9: But that's you know where I talk about money. You
Speaker 9: know you're going to places for money, you know what
Speaker 9: I'm saying, and not to build a legacy. And that's
Speaker 9: what scared me right now, is that if.
Speaker 3: You if Kentucky is not good enough for you to
Speaker 3: go to high school, you know because of money, it's
Speaker 3: Kentucky gonna be good enough for you to go to
Speaker 3: college because of money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well there are deeper pockets available at the University
Speaker 4: of Kentucky though. But you know what you make You
Speaker 4: make a great point because we were talking in the
Speaker 4: office several years ago at w KYT about high school
Speaker 4: basketball in the states of Kentucky and Indiana used to
Speaker 4: be it. I mean, that's where you went for high
Speaker 4: school talent. I don't know about Indiana, but it's not
Speaker 4: that way anymore in Kentucky. But Sean, I truly believe
Speaker 4: it is because the best kids, when they start getting good,
Speaker 4: they leave the state. Rajian Rondo left the state, Jasper
Speaker 4: Johnson left you. You know, there's a long list. I
Speaker 4: was so pleased and Malachi stayed here. But it's not
Speaker 4: the same, is it.
Speaker 9: No, Because you know these high school kids are going
Speaker 9: to prep school and getting money, getting in IL money.
Speaker 10: So you know in IL is like I said, is
Speaker 10: trickle down to the high school level. And you know,
Speaker 10: tradition is nothing anymore.
Speaker 9: You know, I went to the Indiana Kentucky All Star
Speaker 9: Game and there was nobody at.
Speaker 1: Kentucky in Lextionon Catholic for the Indiana Kentucky AFLO game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it used to be used and used to play
Speaker 9: that Freedom Halle and it would be a pact place.
Speaker 9: And then you go back and you.
Speaker 1: Play at Martinus Square Arena wherever they play at. It'll
Speaker 1: be ten, twelve, fifteen, fourteen thousand. You have probably four
Speaker 1: hundred people at the Lexton Catholic deal, and then when
Speaker 1: it went to Indiana it was about seven thousand.
Speaker 4: Wow, it's still something. But you know, and I remember
Speaker 4: because I went to a lot of those. You'd go
Speaker 4: to see the recruits. You'd go to see this kid
Speaker 4: is signed with Kentucky. That kid has signed with Louisville,
Speaker 4: that kid has signed with IU or Notre Dame. It
Speaker 4: was a great preview. And now you're like, who's this kid?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and then you know it's not even
Speaker 1: attractive enough to keep the best players to have him played.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Reeve Shepherd didn't played two years ago. The kid that
Speaker 1: transferred from from Hazard, I mean from Harlan, he didn't
Speaker 1: play this year right, you know, I mean, where's the
Speaker 1: pride of Kentucky at you know, as far as high
Speaker 1: school basketball? I mean, that was the thing you dream
Speaker 1: of being a high school basketball player high school? You know,
Speaker 1: all state guy and especially all star, playing in the
Speaker 1: prestigious Indiana Kentucky All Star Game. And you know these
Speaker 1: guys are you know bypassing that? So you know where
Speaker 1: are we going with this?
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're not mister basketball, you're not interested. I
Speaker 4: guess a couple of minutes left with Sean Woods, I
Speaker 4: know that whatever Jazzer Johnson does, he likely will spend
Speaker 4: one year in college. Would you be in favor? I know,
Speaker 4: as a coach, you'd probably love it. I wonder how
Speaker 4: you would have felt about it. We Well, it's hard
Speaker 4: for you to relate because this wasn't happening when you
Speaker 4: were playing. But what about when you signed with a
Speaker 4: school you signed for two years? Do you think that's feasible?
Speaker 1: I think it is from a contractual standpoint. In IL,
Speaker 1: you got something's got to give because these boosters and
Speaker 1: alumni who are giving money to, you know, help out
Speaker 1: in IL. Come on, what type of investment is that
Speaker 1: I'm investing in a kid? I remember, now, only one
Speaker 1: team wins the national championship. Okay, and you got these
Speaker 1: schools with five ten million dollar budget with nil and
Speaker 1: they're not even winning their conference. Remember where a coach
Speaker 1: Saban said, you can spend money on a bad player,
Speaker 1: And that is what it is right now. You're playing
Speaker 1: Russian roulette. Yeah, you're gambling, and you're gambling on guys
Speaker 1: that aren't aren't that good, you know, you're gambling on it.
Speaker 1: You know, some of these guys are getting moved up
Speaker 1: from the major level schools to high level of schools
Speaker 1: and they're asking for a million dollars. Come on, and
Speaker 1: they're not even projected to be a pro, but you're
Speaker 1: paying them millions of dollars to come you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you have to just to have a
Speaker 1: decent player on your team. So you know, what are
Speaker 1: we doing? You know what I'm saying. You know, there's
Speaker 1: only so many draft picks, there's only so many pros.
Speaker 1: Only one team is going to win a national championship.
Speaker 1: Only one team's gonna win.
Speaker 9: The conference championship.
Speaker 1: But you have every school, especially Power five, that are
Speaker 1: trying to raise millions of dollars to pay these kids
Speaker 1: to win maybe twenty games.
Speaker 9: Everybody's not gonna win.
Speaker 4: Good point.
Speaker 1: But your your your your, your salary cap is getting
Speaker 1: to almost like an NBA salary Yeah yeah, very much.
Speaker 1: So you know, just think of all the millionaires that
Speaker 1: are playing in the NBA right now that again drafted
Speaker 1: to bad teams. Oh yeah, bad teams because you got
Speaker 1: bad players. Oh yeah, that you're paying means and millions
Speaker 1: of dollars too. And then the good teams have good
Speaker 1: players that are staying under the salary cap that the
Speaker 1: players for like they're underpaid because they're helping this team win.
Speaker 4: So you know, a vicious cycle. And you know the
Speaker 4: thing too, You could have a good team, uh and
Speaker 4: manage your salary schedule, but then if you win a championship,
Speaker 4: everybody wants to get paid even more. So now you've
Speaker 4: got to break your team up so that it's just
Speaker 4: like the Crows.
Speaker 1: You winn NASAL, win the World championship. Then guess what
Speaker 1: that team, you know, disperses because the contract graituation. That's right, well,
Speaker 1: trickle Coles dedare.
Speaker 4: It's a different age and Sean Woods helps us sort
Speaker 4: it out every week right here, Sean, thank you so much,
Speaker 4: and we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1: Okay, appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Man, Western Bureau Chief Gary Moore in the garage next
Speaker 4: here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big
Speaker 4: Blue and Cider. We are in the garage. If you
Speaker 4: joined us earlier, you heard that our Western Bureau chief
Speaker 4: is with us every Wednesday. Gary Moore is with us
Speaker 4: here live and in color on tape, and welcome back
Speaker 4: to the garage. And each week we go through half
Speaker 4: a dozen topics you have cleverly labeled.
Speaker 7: Two guys and a six pack. It's good to be
Speaker 7: back here in the les. It's part of my work
Speaker 7: release program over in Louisville. I'm here, so yes, we
Speaker 7: have six topics every week and we call them SIPs
Speaker 7: actually for two guys and six pack. And our first
Speaker 7: sip here is well for anybody who didn't partake of
Speaker 7: five consecutive days of football this past week, you got
Speaker 7: another shot starting tomorrow, so don't blow it knits.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: NFL giving us the AFC Championship rematch Baltimore, Kansas City
Speaker 7: tomorrow night NBC kickoffs about a twenty and if you
Speaker 7: like the pregame stuff that started six months ago basically,
Speaker 7: so jump on in.
Speaker 4: And as for you, you.
Speaker 7: Stockholder, you have the Packers Green Bay Philly in Brazil,
Speaker 7: Sal Paulo City with what four million.
Speaker 2: More people than New York?
Speaker 1: Did I?
Speaker 2: Did I see that right?
Speaker 7: And a country that has banned Twitter or X what
Speaker 7: do you want to call it? And they are going
Speaker 7: to prosecute people for trying to get to X as
Speaker 7: I understand it, as much as eight thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: A time.
Speaker 7: So let me give you some questions here about both
Speaker 7: of those games. Here, can Kansas City three pete? Will
Speaker 7: the Chiefs use one or more of Taylor Swift's.
Speaker 4: That he's drying up?
Speaker 7: And conversely, well Andy Reid write songs for Taylor's next album.
Speaker 7: It seems like it'd be a fair, if not disastrous deal,
Speaker 7: you know. And why play an opening week major NFL
Speaker 7: matchup in a South American city so dangerous to walk
Speaker 7: around in and with air practically unbreathable that they're going
Speaker 7: to go ahead and do it anyway instead of maybe
Speaker 7: putting and not even putting on regular TV. It's streamed, Peacock.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we all know about why it's streamed. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's forcing our fan base to ours being the Packers.
Speaker 4: But you know, I've talked about this ad nauseum. Now
Speaker 4: when I keep going back to Notre Dame Toledo four
Speaker 4: years ago, I think it was the opener for the Irish.
Speaker 4: Was only on peacock. I said, folks, that's the future.
Speaker 2: Yep, you're right.
Speaker 4: Jon Skipper has said, and I'll repeat it, that someday
Speaker 4: the super Bowl will be pay per view, and he's
Speaker 4: not wrong. I'm not sure how soon it will be.
Speaker 4: As for why they're playing it, I got to think
Speaker 4: because the Olympics was fairly successful in Brazil, they can
Speaker 4: get away with this. And by the way, there was
Speaker 4: a hoax for a while that neither team would be
Speaker 4: allowed to wear green because that is the color of
Speaker 4: the arch animey chief soccer team of that city. But
Speaker 4: there's some gangs gang really apparently that's not true, you know.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I know they're trying to expand their worldwide footprint,
Speaker 4: but man, this is a reach. Literally.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of nervous players. Yeah, and some of
Speaker 7: them have been very vocal about it. Do you bring
Speaker 7: your family right? Well, some of them aren't, and some
Speaker 7: of them they've already got a list of here's what
Speaker 7: you don't do while you're here walking around, because obviously
Speaker 7: these are big humans walking around and they're going to
Speaker 7: be targets for certain kind of nefarious shople.
Speaker 2: I would think down there, but.
Speaker 4: What about when my kids are when I'm working and
Speaker 4: my kids are right sightseeing with my wife or whatever.
Speaker 4: That's what's great about London and Dublin and you know,
Speaker 4: you know one of the saveest cities in world, Tokyo.
Speaker 7: I was just gonna say, Japan, Yeah, why wouldn't you
Speaker 7: want to go?
Speaker 2: Maybe try that? Or Australia.
Speaker 7: Yeah, our second sip In the six packs For other
Speaker 7: NFL games Sunday and Monday, there's some pretty interesting matches.
Speaker 7: Matchups and the Titans and the Bears on Sunday, Bears
Speaker 7: four and a half point favorites with Mayo cologne wearing
Speaker 7: Will Levis of Tennessee with the debut of the Ramblin
Speaker 7: Scramblin Caleb Williams. You know it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 7: of eyeballs on that one. Check this one out. In Florida,
Speaker 7: the Jags at the Dolphins. Dolphins three point favorites, got
Speaker 7: a Clemson QB versus a Bama quarterback should be a
Speaker 7: lot of fun. My Seahawks. Also on Sunday, they're at
Speaker 7: home against the Broncos and six point favorites. Bo Nicks
Speaker 7: making his debut for Denver, who lost. By the way,
Speaker 7: the last time he was in Seattle with Oregon. Seahawks
Speaker 7: are going to be in these gorgeous royal blue throwback jersey.
Speaker 7: They already won the costuming Oh yeah game on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Then later on Man.
Speaker 7: Cowboys at the Browns. Brown's two and a half point favorites.
Speaker 7: By the way, last time I checked Tommy Brady's color
Speaker 7: commentating debut, and I'm thinking, okay, this is with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 7: Can both teams lose in this if you or there
Speaker 7: at least maybe tie. And if Brady is this close
Speaker 7: to being a minority or having any kind of ownership
Speaker 7: with the Raiders, why even let this guy even near
Speaker 7: the press box or you know, getting close to some
Speaker 7: of these teams or whatever. It's kind of hard to
Speaker 7: figure out. Then you got the Rams of Detroit later
Speaker 7: on that day, Monday Night, Jets and your boy Aaron
Speaker 7: Rodgers at the Niners. Niners three and a half point favorites.
Speaker 7: There are actual bets. I understand if Aaron will make
Speaker 7: it past four plays, which I'm not.
Speaker 2: That's a prop.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna touch that one. Which of those or any others?
Speaker 7: Are you looking forward to ignoring your your honeydew list
Speaker 7: of things?
Speaker 4: Well, I want to see Dallas lose, obviously, I'll be
Speaker 4: curious in tune in Brady. Yeah, a lot of people will.
Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll. We'll enough people tune in to retire
Speaker 4: the debt of three hundred and forty five million dollars
Speaker 4: that Fox owes him. How much? Again, I think his
Speaker 4: total deal is like three and forty three and fifty million,
Speaker 4: but I don't know how many years. Curious for Tennessee Chicago.
Speaker 4: I want to see what Levis does. And I want
Speaker 4: to see the Bears. QB had some spectacular plays, but
Speaker 4: not a lot of them in a row in preseason.
Speaker 4: But he's got the entire Bears nation just going nuts,
Speaker 4: going out of their minds. I want to peek at
Speaker 4: the Rams Detroit. How good is Detroit? They're scary?
Speaker 7: You know, I got a prediction about them later on. Okay,
Speaker 7: so we'll save that for the sixth on there, that's right,
Speaker 7: But yeah, of course, the Jets and the Niners. That's
Speaker 7: going to be Oh yeah, speaking of eyeballs, yeah, third
Speaker 7: swig and the six pack.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk college football.
Speaker 7: Obviously, UK and U of L passed their Week one tests,
Speaker 7: beating Southern Miss and Austin Pete respectfully by a combined
Speaker 7: total of ninety.
Speaker 2: Three to zip on Saturday.
Speaker 7: Conversely, my Hilltoppers, my alma mater, and e KU both
Speaker 7: played SEC schools Bama and Mississippi State and lost by
Speaker 7: a combined one nineteen to seven.
Speaker 2: And what timing.
Speaker 7: Eastern and Western revisit that once intense one double, a
Speaker 7: rivalry that's definitely cooled over the years. That's gonna be
Speaker 7: done in Bowling Green on Saturday.
Speaker 2: They haven't seen.
Speaker 7: I didn't see as spread for this yet, so I
Speaker 7: know that Western were probably the favorite at home, and
Speaker 7: they should win. It's at seven o'clock Saturday night down
Speaker 7: in Bowling Green.
Speaker 4: There might not be as spread since it's one a
Speaker 4: versus one double.
Speaker 2: That's true too.
Speaker 7: Cards and Cats both have kickoffs at three thirty Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 7: Of course you'll be down there for that, and the
Speaker 7: Cats at last check ten point favorites. I believe over
Speaker 7: South Carolina.
Speaker 2: Revenge, must have revenge. Forget that game.
Speaker 7: Oh man, they should have won that one last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Number twenty two Louisville has another basic, glorified scrimmage with
Speaker 7: the new Conference USA school Jacksonville State Cards a twenty
Speaker 7: eight point favorite. So we're gonna take the Cats and
Speaker 7: the Cards and the Toppers this weekend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 4: I think Western Kentucky, as is usually the case with
Speaker 4: FBS versus FCS depth because they have more scollies. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and hard, hard to get a line on ek on
Speaker 4: either team after those openers.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I tell you when I was at Western,
Speaker 7: that was the rival ry game. Roy Kid would come
Speaker 7: in or Jimmy Fix would take the guys to hangar field.
Speaker 4: Roy was a different guy at practice Western week We'd
Speaker 4: go over It was different guy. Oh yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 7: What was on ABC for AC come in and coverage
Speaker 7: Fourth Swig and the six Pack. Besides those three games
Speaker 7: of bluegrass interest, there are a couple of others on
Speaker 7: Saturday with two ranked teams facing off against you. So
Speaker 7: we had a whole bunch of ranked teams playing each
Speaker 7: of the last weekend. Only a couple this week, and
Speaker 7: the Biggie of course, number three Texas at number ten
Speaker 7: Michigan in the Big House. That's seven o'clock at high noon.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, that's at high noon on Fox, and Texas
Speaker 7: is a seven point favorite. I had my numbers here,
Speaker 7: so high noon on Fox for that one, uh seven
Speaker 7: point thirty. You got the number fourteen Valls and number
Speaker 7: twenty four North Carolina State that's on ABC. And before
Speaker 7: any of those, you know, I would normally have ESPN
Speaker 7: Game Day on leading up to noon, like I did
Speaker 7: this past week, but I got to put a pause
Speaker 7: on this. I think just after week one, game Day
Speaker 7: has jumped the shark. Oh yeah, I think because it's
Speaker 7: gotten so bloated and so full of itself and there's
Speaker 7: so many people now part of it. Well, for example,
Speaker 7: I turned it on Saturday morning. First thing I see
Speaker 7: is a commercial for one of the worst campaigns we've
Speaker 7: talked about this Fanville, the new Fanvilt Doctor Pepper commercial
Speaker 7: props up. Then that's right there with that mini key.
Speaker 2: Guy and the Emu li.
Speaker 7: The Limu Emu is the worst ad campaign. So I'll
Speaker 7: go back and I'm watching Premiere Soccer. I come back
Speaker 7: and there's a country music guy singing some really sad
Speaker 7: song by himself, completely inappropriate for the crowd. So I
Speaker 7: leave that, go back to soccer. I come back in
Speaker 7: Pete Thammil, great reporter. Yeah he's in a fly fishing
Speaker 7: costume outfit.
Speaker 4: What is this?
Speaker 2: Go back to soccer, Come back more commercials. Go back
Speaker 2: to soccer. Then I come back.
Speaker 7: Pat McAfee has taken off his shirt and jacket and
Speaker 7: he's topless. I don't want to see that. He's hugging
Speaker 7: Saban over here. At least Saban dropped the S bomb,
Speaker 7: and you had Coach Corso picking Notre Dame over a
Speaker 7: and m to kind of salvage the whole thing.
Speaker 2: But I'm done for now. This is just so bloated anymore.
Speaker 2: The signs were.
Speaker 4: Good, they usually are. Yeah, best part of the show.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree, But there's just so many people in
Speaker 7: so many games. There's so much stuff going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah it is.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So that's my take on that. Can move on
Speaker 7: to the fifth wig here it's talk basketball. Got to
Speaker 7: talk some basketball. Last night, Caitlin Clark and the Indiana
Speaker 7: Fever YEP clinched a playoff berth without even playing right
Speaker 7: Their first time the playoffs in eight years, and it
Speaker 7: was because of Chicago and Atlanta losing. So tonight they
Speaker 7: are playing on a cable channel most people have. It's
Speaker 7: going to be on CBS Sports Network. You've got well,
Speaker 7: she is for me the shoe in for in WNBA
Speaker 7: Rookie of the Year. She also gets my vote for MVP.
Speaker 7: So they're going to be playing the La Sparks seven
Speaker 7: to twenty five. It's the first of six home games
Speaker 7: in a row for the Fever. They got a six
Speaker 7: game homestand and I misspoke last week. I think last
Speaker 7: week I said that they only have two more games
Speaker 7: left before the playoffs, had two more games left in August,
Speaker 7: so now they've got seven total including tomorrow night. This
Speaker 7: past week, just to give you an update, Caitlin Clark
Speaker 7: became Player of the Week. She set the rookie record
Speaker 7: for three pointers. She helped the Fever get over five
Speaker 7: hundred for the first time since June of twenty nineteen,
Speaker 7: and inadvertently apparently ended a friendship between former WNBA star
Speaker 7: Chryl Swoops and Nancy Lieberman. But don't been following this,
Speaker 7: but Cheryl doesn't think that Caitlyn's all that. Nancy, of course,
Speaker 7: like any saint human, says yes, she is all that,
Speaker 7: and so they've got a little bit of a problem there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So Caitlin now counts for thirty seven points in scoring
Speaker 7: every game, forty four percent of their points every night.
Speaker 7: I ask you, if she gets both Rookie of the
Speaker 7: Year and MVP, how many more friendships can she potentially ruin?
Speaker 4: I could see her, Yes, clearly for that stat you
Speaker 4: just gave as the MVP. You know, Lisa Leslie floated
Speaker 4: on Twitter x the notion and I could get behind this.
Speaker 4: How about Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark's sharing a Rope
Speaker 4: of Year? Yeah, you can make an argument, Yeah you
Speaker 4: could both if you really can, because there are two
Speaker 4: completely different types of player. They contribute into distinct ways,
Speaker 4: and they're both incredibly valuable to their teams.
Speaker 2: I could see that.
Speaker 4: I think in terms of overall MVP, I always try
Speaker 4: to look at not just who has the best stats,
Speaker 4: but who is the league's MVP? And I think it's
Speaker 4: I think it's clearly Caitlyn Clark. But it's definitely a
Speaker 4: bird magic situation with these two. Yeah, but there were
Speaker 4: other great talented players in that League. But I keep
Speaker 4: banging a drum over and over. If you're going to
Speaker 4: bash them, that's bad business. Yeah, you're a businesswoman. Let
Speaker 4: these both of these kids help you make money, and
Speaker 4: they are. They are hand over fist now, yeah, watch
Speaker 4: the fever tonight. This is a team that's rolling. They're
Speaker 4: like six and one since the Olympic break. And maybe
Speaker 4: Debbie Intonelle's calling the game now, a Hall of Famer
Speaker 4: former UK marketing director, and I was her first broadcast partner,
Speaker 4: so I'm very proud of her. Had her on the
Speaker 4: show not long ago, and she has been witnessed all.
Speaker 2: This sixth and final swig.
Speaker 7: So we've got tomorrow's Kansas City and a bomber rematch
Speaker 7: that begins a season in the NFL that shall end
Speaker 7: with who Dick Gabriel in Super Bowl fifty nine February ninth,
Speaker 7: twenty twenty five, done, New Orleans. I am gonna go
Speaker 7: with two teams that I picked even before Sports Illustrated
Speaker 7: picked them. Detroit Cincinnati. Wow, I've got the Lions winning
Speaker 7: thirty five to twenty seven, which means it will be
Speaker 7: the Niners in Kansas City, repeating against what that means.
Speaker 4: I would love that I really would. I would love
Speaker 4: it for Detroit. I would love it, of course for
Speaker 4: the Bengals, because if I'm not rooting for my Packers,
Speaker 4: I'm rooting for the Bengals. But I will say what
Speaker 4: a lot of people said prior to last year, which
Speaker 4: I thought was premature. I will say the Chiefs and
Speaker 4: my Packers, Well how about that.
Speaker 7: I'm glad you said that because I brought you something
Speaker 7: that might help you get into this.
Speaker 4: Oh my, what we got here?
Speaker 7: This is something that was from the collection here. This
Speaker 7: is a uh oh, I guess it's kind of a
Speaker 7: replica thing these This is a football jersey, Thank you
Speaker 7: so much that came out in the like nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 7: ninety three that Champion made these. They made one for
Speaker 7: name of John Unidas and Paul Horning. This is number
Speaker 7: five Paul Louisville yep, flaje A high and I warn
Speaker 7: it like maybe once I wore it. Actually the Fox
Speaker 7: Sports I've got a picture with Howie and David Hill
Speaker 7: and James Brown and some of the other guys there,
Speaker 7: and I said, you need to have this, so maybe
Speaker 7: this will help you get the Packers.
Speaker 4: Thank you there, Thank you very much. And of course
Speaker 4: I've told the story that when I found out Paul
Speaker 4: Horning was from Louisville, that's what made me a Packers fan.
Speaker 4: So wow, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 7: Enjoy It's very heavy show. I won't wear it for
Speaker 7: a few more weeks. I think it's big enough. I
Speaker 7: think the size is okay. But you know, like I said,
Speaker 7: I once I had it dry clean, it's been sitting.
Speaker 4: On a crash diet. If I had a use way
Speaker 4: to get into this. Gary moorees in the garage bearing gifts.
Speaker 4: Let that be a listen to all of you future
Speaker 4: guests who want to be in the garage, and we'll
Speaker 4: come back with the hot rage in just a minute.
Speaker 4: Here on the Big one Sider six thirty wlap Welcome Back,
Speaker 4: final segment of our program. Gary Moore is live and
Speaker 4: in color. Right here in the garage. We have heard
Speaker 4: two guys in a six back time for a couple
Speaker 4: of hot reads to throw at Gary. Gary us opened tennis.
Speaker 4: There are always a lot of great stories, but one
Speaker 4: of the sadder stories is what happened with Yulia Puttin's Eva,
Speaker 4: who treated a ball girl with contempt. I don't know
Speaker 4: if you saw the oh, man, who do you think
Speaker 4: you are? This young woman was trying to pass tennis
Speaker 4: balls as that is their job to her, and would
Speaker 4: flip her the ball and she never even attempted to
Speaker 4: catch the balls and just let them fall to the
Speaker 4: ground and then stared at her. And it was really
Speaker 4: really awkward and unfortunate. She is from Russia Kazakhstan and
Speaker 4: just glared at the girl with her arms down by
Speaker 4: her side. Now, eventually she did catch one, and people
Speaker 4: at Flushing Meadows, to their credit, jeered her. You can't
Speaker 4: get away with that in New York, man, But she
Speaker 4: eventually apologized, but never sought out. The girl never sought
Speaker 4: out of that name. I don't know, man, I don't
Speaker 4: remember anything like this ever happening at the US Open there.
Speaker 4: I mean Macenrolle blowing up, that's one thing.
Speaker 7: Right, This was just inexcusable. Inexcusable. I saw that, and
Speaker 7: she was like stood there like a statue while this
Speaker 7: girl was throwing balls and just let kind of let
Speaker 7: her bounce off of her. Didn't even make an attempt
Speaker 7: to get any of the balls. I think I saw
Speaker 7: two or three of them. And New Yorkers, who you know,
Speaker 7: have patented awful behavior for since the beginning of time.
Speaker 7: Are not going to put up with that, right, not
Speaker 7: in the sporting sense of it. I couldn't believe what
Speaker 7: I was seeing. And I've You've covered a lot of
Speaker 7: tennis people. I've covered tennis people, tennis people, and baseball
Speaker 7: young tennis people, prodigies, baseball prodigies. Two of the least
Speaker 7: favorite people have ever wanted to cover in my life
Speaker 7: because they've been coddled ever since, you know, grade school
Speaker 7: or even nursery school, all the way up there.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: I had not really good success with some of the
Speaker 7: tennis people that covered out there that would come to
Speaker 7: UCLA or whatever. Although I did get to cover Bjorn
Speaker 7: Borg in the scene.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's very cool.
Speaker 2: I had a beer with bjorn Borg. Now, that was
Speaker 2: pretty cool.
Speaker 4: I don't know anybody on this planet who can say that.
Speaker 7: Mel Purcell for Murray H. Mel was in the Senior
Speaker 7: the tour thing that Jimmy Conners had gotten back in
Speaker 7: the nineties, came to LA withorn Borg.
Speaker 4: He's a Kentucky Athletics Hall of Fame member, so that's
Speaker 4: how I got to meet him. So I got out, Well,
Speaker 4: if she's got any essential I read someplace where Russians
Speaker 4: are just obviously built dipperately. This is somebody I think
Speaker 4: it pointed out to her that she had done the
Speaker 4: wrong thing. So anyhow, maybe the next time she comes
Speaker 4: to the open, she'll uh seek out that young girl
Speaker 4: and uh actually got booed. Yeah, exactly right. Uh our
Speaker 4: second high read and once again Gary Moore is right
Speaker 4: here in the garage with us loving it. Well good,
Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear that. Florida State h and two.
Speaker 4: Now the memes are fantastic. It happened to a nicer school.
Speaker 4: Well that's my point. Uh, you know, we're too good,
Speaker 4: We're too big for the ACC. You don't deserve us.
Speaker 4: And guess what Florida and a lot of teams have
Speaker 4: started going to They might turn around and have a
Speaker 4: very nice season. They won't, probably not. They just don't
Speaker 4: look very good. But they are the first team in
Speaker 4: the history of college sports to say or have it
Speaker 4: said about them. Hey, there goes the seventeenth place team
Speaker 4: in the ACC.
Speaker 2: Isn't that great?
Speaker 7: Because there's so many in the act and there's gonna
Speaker 7: be somebody in the Big ten's got what I don't know,
Speaker 7: sixteen yeah, that's gonna be.
Speaker 4: I had to go back and count I thought the
Speaker 4: big the big ten quote unquote was no, the ACC
Speaker 4: But all those teams on the Atlantic coast like SMU. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but Florida State right now.
Speaker 7: Here, they were complaining last year, Well we didn't get in.
Speaker 2: We should we deserve to get in.
Speaker 7: No, if you had your third string quarterback had gotten
Speaker 7: more than sixty yards against u of L, you might
Speaker 7: have gotten in there. If you had even that hundred
Speaker 7: yards passing, you probably would have gotten in. You had
Speaker 7: the worst third string quarterback, not one of the best teams.
Speaker 7: They were not, absolutely not.
Speaker 4: And if there is a silver lining for the rest
Speaker 4: of us to all this, we will stop hearing about
Speaker 4: that because if they had won the first two games,
Speaker 4: Florida State fans, could you know, turn around and go, see,
Speaker 4: we belonged in the playoff last year. Well, I'm not
Speaker 4: saying you know, I have my opinion. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: you did or you didn't. I didn't think you did.
Speaker 4: But now just move on and drop this stupid lawsuit.
Speaker 7: And had that Georgia game turn out for you last
Speaker 7: year at the end, so you could prove everybody wrong, right, Clemson.
Speaker 4: How that Georgia game taste this year? So that's another
Speaker 4: team involved in the lawsuit. Thank you so much, sir.
Speaker 4: We are appreciative of the fact that you have come
Speaker 4: to the garage. I love it.
Speaker 7: And what a great man cave. This guy's got the
Speaker 7: greatest man cave anybody I know.
Speaker 4: That's it. Thanks to my guest, Thanks to John Hale,
Speaker 4: thanks to Shawn Woods. Good night from the garage and Lexington.
Speaker 2: Sure Fisher, let me ask you something.
Speaker 3: Six. Have you missed a play like that?
Speaker 1: Six?
Speaker 8: The ball jumped out of as soon as we make
Speaker 8: count down for a number.
Speaker 7: What you were talking about?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: If you want to field now watch