WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:06.360 On WBZ, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:10.720 Good evening, everybody, Happy holidays, and indeed I do. 3 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:13.320 Nicole. Nicole is still there. 4 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:15.359 Of course, I'm here when I leave. 5 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:19.519 And you know what you talked about one of my 6 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:22.199 old alma materas the Curly School. 7 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:22.760 Oh. 8 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:28.800 I went to the Mary Amelda Curly School in nineteen 9 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:33.560 sixty six and sixty seven. Very nice seventh grade and 10 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:34.200 eighth grade. 11 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:35.920 So you must have loved that news today. 12 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:38.320 I did love that news. I'm happy they got an 13 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:44.840 award and they've had standards ever since I went there, 14 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:48.399 in prior to me going there because Mary Curly was 15 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:50.439 James Michael Curly's daughter. 16 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:54.359 Oh okay, I see the connection. 17 00:00:56.079 --> 00:01:00.000 That's the familiar voice you referred to. That's Jack Hart. 18 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:02.159 Oh, hi, Jack Hart, how are you my friend? 19 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:02.600 Oh? 20 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:04.799 Hello, Nicole Davis, how are. 21 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:06.840 You so fun? It's no time reunion here on Night 22 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:07.359 Side tonight. 23 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:08.760 Yeah, it is an Morgan. 24 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:09.079 Hello. 25 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:14.280 I'm circumventing you to say hell little. 26 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:13.760 That's all right. 27 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:16.159 And one of these days the three of us are 28 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:17.640 going to do lunch my treat. 29 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:18.840 I like that. 30 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:20.920 I liked the idea before it was your treat that. 31 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:22.079 I really like the idea. 32 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:26.120 Now, fantastic. 33 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.200 You have a good evening there in News Central. 34 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:31.519 Thank you, my friend, have a wonderful show. 35 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:33.319 And you too. Take care. 36 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:36.959 Jack, why don't you tell people what we are going 37 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:38.640 to do tonight here on night Side. 38 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:42.079 We're going to play cards, No no, no. 39 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:44.040 Hees we are. 40 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:47.159 We're going to talk about the the the the downtown. 41 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:49.799 Well what we call downtown crossing now, what we used 42 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:51.519 to call downtown going downtown. 43 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:55.959 We didn't care about the names. Yeah, we said. 44 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:58.480 The name crossing came along afterwards. That's when they when 45 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.120 when they stopped allowing traffic. Oddly enough, when they stopped 46 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.359 allowing traffic on those roads, that's when they started calling 47 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:10.000 it downtown crossing. But and the whole Christmas season in 48 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:13.560 that whole air at Boston Common Area, Tremont Street, Washington Street, 49 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:18.199 Winter Street, and all the various side streets, Bromfield Street 50 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:22.360 and Temple Place, all those places and Christmas time in 51 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:24.280 the olden days. 52 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:29.560 And I want to take people back. Jack gave a 53 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:33.439 broadbrush set of memories just now I want to make 54 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:37.599 it a tad more specific. Oh, I want people listening 55 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:41.800 to call in tell us when mom and or dad 56 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:46.199 and or Grandma. Whomever took you by the hand held 57 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:49.879 on to you. You might have already been in the fourth, 58 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:55.840 fifth and sixth grade and you felt handholding was not necessary, 59 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:59.520 but they did it anyway, and you went to the store. 60 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:00.800 At the store. 61 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:02.960 I would my mother used to say, stand a little 62 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:05.560 closer to the edge there and look look. 63 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:11.599 Down the tunnel. She did not lean over very far. 64 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:16.599 No, no, I should say, no, she might. 65 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:17.439 Have said it that way. 66 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:23.520 But I want people to give me a typical Saturday, 67 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:29.680 maybe one or two saturdays before Christmas, where your mom 68 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:33.479 went to Conrad Chandler. Remember the store with the pneumatic 69 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:36.000 tubes all up and down the walls and ceilings. 70 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:42.680 Yes, yes, exactly, or for those who. 71 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:46.840 Don't know, that's the sound of the tubes, the pneumatic tubes. 72 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:55.319 Being or or to Gilchrist or to naturally Jordan's and 73 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:57.120 or Filene's. 74 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:04.639 Jon's. And you were. 75 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:10.719 Told if you behaved you would get treated to a 76 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:15.759 hot dog and a soda or a tonic at W. T. 77 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:22.000 Grant's or Chris or Nice Nurse, or better than that, 78 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:27.199 you would get a nice cream treat at Bailey's. And 79 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:30.120 you did the best you could to make sure you 80 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.240 behaved because you looked forward to that. 81 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:38.720 Yeah, the yeah, or or you know, people don't remember 82 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:44.720 the the the almond macaroons at Gilchrist's. 83 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:48.759 Here here, I remember those. Ye don't remember them. 84 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:55.079 Of all the downtown stores, gil Christ had a mezzanine 85 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:58.399 that was quite active, you know, first flo or second floor, 86 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:03.600 third floor, and every the other department store. But gil 87 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:07.360 Christ had a first floor a mezzanine. You had to 88 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:11.199 walk up just three or four stairs and then take 89 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.360 an elevator up the floor two, three or four. 90 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.319 Philein's had a mezzanine. 91 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:19.079 I don't remember. 92 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:20.759 Piles had a. 93 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:22.399 Havanine, that's right. 94 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:29.959 They Yeah, I believe it was Michael Kazan's hair salon. 95 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:30.160 Was up there. 96 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:32.319 I believe my mother went several times at least to 97 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:35.639 Michael Kazan's hair salon, and it was on the mezzanine. 98 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:40.120 It was it was, you know, you have to sit 99 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:44.759 and behave and smell the rich mccaulla, the perm the 100 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:52.920 perm juice there, which melt somewhat like a cat box. Yeah, 101 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:55.639 and ladies would be sitting under the dryer for for 102 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:57.959 what seemed to be an interminable amount of time. 103 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.959 Well, these are the types of memories that we want. 104 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:09.720 And you know, people people may also remember the restaurant 105 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:12.279 and Phileines up the top floor of the eighth floor 106 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:12.959 of Philins. 107 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.439 It was a wonderful restaurant up there that I recall. 108 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.160 I do recall that, and I'm going to tell a 109 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:22.519 personal story. Then we'll take our break and throw up 110 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.680 the phone numbers and let the landslide of calls begin. 111 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:28.000 It was a commercial. 112 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:29.920 There was a commercial and I was in I think 113 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.759 the fifth grade for all the kids who owned Line 114 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:37.639 L trains, of which I was one, and there was 115 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:42.560 now they used to have the circus car or a 116 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:46.800 giraffe's head would be poking out the roof and duck 117 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:56.079 down when a a pole appeared crosswise over the track. 118 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:01.920 Really and that that was like, wow, it does something 119 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.040 other than the train just going around and around. Then 120 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:10.040 they came up with the helicopter, and you could wind 121 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:17.319 the helicopter up, put it on a flat car, and 122 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:19.199 as it got to where you wanted it to be, 123 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:25.360 you could activate that helicopter manually and it would take flight. 124 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:29.240 And then to me, that was just the coolest thing. 125 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:37.360 So my grandmother surprised me by taking me down to 126 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:42.720 Eric Fuchs's daggoning across the ground. 127 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:46.680 And yeah, yeah, yeah, bought me that. 128 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:50.079 She said it's for Christmas. You can't open it to Lynn. Great, 129 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:52.120 I can wait a week and a half, two weeks, 130 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:56.399 whatever it was. Anyway, let me take our break. This 131 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:58.480 is night Side. Dan is off for the whole night. 132 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:02.639 We cross our fingers and hopes he'll be back tomorrow 133 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:05.720 and I'll be in all next week, but that's something 134 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:10.560 for later. On time and temperature here on Nightside eight 135 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:13.839 fifteen forty five degrees. 136 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:18.079 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 137 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:21.319 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 138 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:24.680 Dan is off tonight. I am here. I am Morgan 139 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:29.480 White Junior and a bit of personal news. My show 140 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:35.840 on Saturdays goes from ten pm to midnight, but beginning 141 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:40.399 in the new year, I go from nine pm to midnight. 142 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:44.799 I get all back, get my three hours back. 143 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:45.159 Yay. 144 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:49.840 Until for the note, Let's go to Hanson and speak 145 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:52.919 with Jim. Jim Good evening, Welcome to night Side. 146 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:57.360 Hey, Hey, how are you guys doing pretty good? 147 00:08:57.440 --> 00:08:57.639 Yeah? 148 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:01.639 I have an interesting story about downtown. Back then, it 149 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:06.200 was around town, Like you said, my mother and my 150 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:11.200 grandmother wanted to take me downtown. Okay, yeah, it was 151 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.559 nineteen was the year after Kennedy was killed. Because I 152 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.159 remember we had the year before. It was real tough. 153 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.799 That year. My grandmother and mother took me out. We 154 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:27.080 went downtown and my grandmother says, I need to take 155 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:31.720 you to Fileen's, and then we were going through Filine 156 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:34.720 she says, I want you to know I was a 157 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.840 model and I used to walk through the store and 158 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.200 show off all these clothings. How do you like idea 159 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:44.519 of your grandmother becoming a model. This is back in 160 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.080 the twenties. She was a model and she worked on 161 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.360 a cruise shift. She sang on cruise ships. At the 162 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:56.799 same time, she was Bundy O'Brien. She was Bundy O'Brien 163 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:04.120 from Milton I do. And then on top of it, 164 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.000 then they took me to Jordan Marsh to go see 165 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:13.600 the uh Enchanted Village. And this past weekend I took 166 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.679 my grands I took my grandson to the Enchanted Village 167 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:19.320 and Jordan's for him to see it. I have to 168 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:20.399 keep the tradition going. 169 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:22.279 He was his. 170 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:25.919 Reaction identical to your reaction when you start in nineteen 171 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:26.639 sixty four. 172 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:34.679 He was very surprised, and uh, I don't think it 173 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:36.639 was as good as mine, though, I was more shocked. 174 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:40.559 He was my grandson's only three and a half. I 175 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:41.960 was I was at the time. 176 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:43.120 Jim. 177 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:46.360 Well, back in those days, you know, a mechanic you know, mechanical, 178 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:47.639 mechanical village. 179 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:49.159 You know, not only was. 180 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.960 The move was a new thing, new fangled thing then 181 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:55.679 that's right. 182 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.360 Oh yeah, you know, we couldn't believe it was it 183 00:10:57.399 --> 00:11:00.840 was all mechanical. It was all you know, friction. But 184 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:03.879 you know, we couldn't believe, you know, we couldn't believe 185 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.480 stuff like that. Now you know, now everything, you know, 186 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:10.120 anything can move in a thousand different ways and videos 187 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:12.360 and so forth. So it's not as I don't imagine 188 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:14.720 that that kids today as you know, oh my god, 189 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:17.799 look at this. It's it's like almost like look at 190 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:18.639 this primitive thing. 191 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:22.480 Yeah, well three and a half year old, that's video 192 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:23.039 games now. 193 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:27.919 Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, Jim, thank you for the dog. 194 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:33.799 Happy Let me share no problem to Mary Christmas. 195 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:36.360 And that's what we want everybody to do. I want 196 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:39.960 you to share six one, seven, two, five, four, ten 197 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:44.919 thirty eight eight, eight nine to nine, ten thirty and 198 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:49.600 Nancy my producer sitting next to me here from where 199 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:55.000 I broadcast Nancy Jackson's Hi Nancy Wave tied back. She 200 00:11:55.120 --> 00:12:01.120 grew up in Minnesota. Her her memories are department stores 201 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:08.399 and places in the greater downtown Minnesota area, Minneapolis St. 202 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:13.639 Paul and what was the big departments. Dayton's was the 203 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:17.080 big department store. And she's not sure if there was 204 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:19.879 a Hamples like indicated on the Marytyler Moore show. 205 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.039 Oh, there might have been a Himples. 206 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:26.960 Might have been a Himples. 207 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.039 That's where worked exactly. 208 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.159 Let's take another call and people, we want you to 209 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:37.000 call in with your memories. We are doing this just 210 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.000 as kind of an early Christmas Christmas present. You'll bring 211 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:46.679 up names like City mart or Rogers Jewelers, or the 212 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:55.200 Brass Lantern restaurant, maybe building. Oh yes, so let's let's 213 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:58.639 hear some more of these memories. Linda and Weymouth, you're 214 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.080 next door nightside. Hi. 215 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:06.600 Yes, I remember the the railroad tracks, the enchanted village, 216 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:12.279 and I remember going down also to Edinville Railroad and 217 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:19.720 going on there on the surface spectacle program. 218 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:21.679 Was that not Canton Harbor? 219 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:22.960 I think it was Carver. 220 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:25.759 Yeah, yeah, Plymouth. 221 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:30.320 You gotta put the accent on that car, excuse me, 222 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:39.879 and walking down there, and people all admiring the railroad 223 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:43.720 tracks down there in the downtown crossing. But I get 224 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:49.240 a question to a little off top building nineteen there 225 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.799 was a gentleman there, who was I think he was? 226 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:54.440 He was downstairs. I think he might have been in 227 00:13:54.480 --> 00:14:00.240 the fabric department. And also there was an outlet out 228 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:05.720 department down there. I'm trying to remember his name ever 229 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:08.480 since Dan had it on the show. 230 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:09.960 I told. 231 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.399 Yeah, it was something nineteen. No, No, it was a 232 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:19.679 bogging center. It was in Colymbian. It was in Quincy Square. 233 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.240 The man's name was Elliott Elliott. 234 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:26.720 Yes, Elliott, Yes, Elliott, I remember Elliott. 235 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:27.000 Yes. 236 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:27.480 Yeah. 237 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:29.360 We used to get My family used to go there. 238 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:33.440 It was a big, giant, affable man. Yes, and he 239 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:35.480 always gave the kids candy and so forth. 240 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:39.679 Okay, we're giving me a few more memories. 241 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:41.879 I thought you're doing downtown Boston. 242 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:46.080 You were talking about Quinsy Quincy Center. Yeah, well you 243 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:47.799 got to live around that in the beginning. 244 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:55.159 My Pard and I'm special, Okay, we're all Okay. Sometimes 245 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:59.000 I get the I'm over eighteen, I'm over seventy two 246 00:14:59.240 --> 00:14:59.679 as well. 247 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:05.919 You're in my neighborhood. I'm just a year younger than you. 248 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:10.480 Okay, ill cout out. I'll always shoulder appreciation you're away 249 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:18.120 for doing the show. Okay, thanks so much for the pillain. Elliott, Elliott, Yes, Elliot. 250 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:21.200 There you go. How did you mention the downtown. 251 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:24.519 Yeah, she was talking about Guindsey, But I know who 252 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:28.039 she was talking about. The You know, my my high 253 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.200 school girlfriend, whose name I won't mention here, but she 254 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:34.879 always claimed that her grandfather was one of the original 255 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:39.679 carpenters on the Enchanted Village. 256 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:42.919 And did you believe her? 257 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:45.919 No reason to not. I suppose you know. 258 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:49.440 What, are you keeping your name secret? It's almost like 259 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:51.600 she's in witness protection. 260 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:54.639 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I mean yeah, you know, 261 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:56.320 I don't know. You know that that's that's a very 262 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:00.919 long time ago. Okay, So you know, but you know, 263 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.679 people we talk about the Enchanted Village. People to forget 264 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:06.639 about the other windows. Filings had their own windows, and 265 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:10.639 outside of filings they had they had the the awning 266 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:13.759 over the winter street side that had like the maj 267 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:17.639 Ei coming along and so forth. People, you know, people 268 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:19.960 always just talk about the Enchanted village like it was 269 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.679 the only thing that that happened at Christmas then. But 270 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:27.799 many of the stores had the animatronics and the windows 271 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:30.440 and things in those days, and other grand displays in 272 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.679 their windows. Most of the stores did, and the the 273 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:36.519 the Enchanted Village was great, but other stores also had 274 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:37.200 some stuff too. 275 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:42.559 And if you walked further down Washington Street, maybe a 276 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:47.000 block before the combat zone, it was House of Horrowitz, 277 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:48.200 the electronics store. 278 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:50.080 Oh that's right. 279 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:54.879 See, I'll make your memory work in the way I 280 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:55.679 wanted to work. 281 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:57.480 And the House of Horrowitz. 282 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:03.600 You wanted to buy a portable radio. A lot of 283 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.920 they are nowadays portable radios. 284 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.200 But yeah, transistor radios, every. 285 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:14.680 Electronic do Hickey device, what have you? 286 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:18.960 They sold House of Horowitz. I forgot about them. 287 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:23.839 And a bit further up on Washington Street, intersection of 288 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:30.680 West and Washington was Mickey Finn. What's the Mickey Finn's 289 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:34.119 in Any sporting equipment you needed, that's where you got it. 290 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:36.880 Oh, yeah, that's right, Mickey Finn's. 291 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:38.559 Yeah. 292 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:40.799 Also in that on one of those corners down there, 293 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.400 there was also a w T Grant I think, wasn't there? 294 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:45.160 Yeh, I mentioned w T. Grants. 295 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:51.319 They were across the street from filings? 296 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:55.079 Were they were they across the street from Philins? Or 297 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:58.240 were they they further down Washington Street, down near West 298 00:17:58.240 --> 00:17:59.359 Street or Temple Place? 299 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:05.400 Always in the other direction, it was in between, if 300 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:11.759 you could say, in between in Beach, in between Winter 301 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:18.240 and Bromfield, that place where was located. 302 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:20.759 All right, okay, that's right, that's when. 303 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.200 All right, let me take my break. I want to 304 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:26.359 be on time. I'm filling in for Dan Ray. And 305 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:28.119 there were rules. 306 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:31.559 I have to obey them. Dan is always on time always. 307 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:34.119 Let's take a break. Time and temperature eight. 308 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:36.799 Thirty forty five degrees. 309 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:43.720 It's night side with Ray, Boston's news radio. 310 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:48.079 Welcome back, everybody. My name Morgan White Junior. Been a 311 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:53.359 part of the Besy landscape since nineteen ninety six. Oh 312 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:59.079 my goodness. I'm doing radio in Boston since nineteen eighty. Yepeow, 313 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:03.160 and I'm here with my buddy, mister Jack Hart. There's 314 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:10.319 an his name. If you're gonna send him a Christmas card. 315 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:09.799 That is at the end. 316 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:13.480 Yes, yes, yes, there you are you ready to go 317 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:14.519 to Rhode Island. 318 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:19.160 Jack, Sure, let's go to Rhode Island. 319 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:24.920 I like Rhode Island. 320 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:28.480 I was curious about this. I was serious about the 321 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:31.000 story you were talking about. They had the pneumatic tubes. 322 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:33.359 What were they doing with those? Were they sending the 323 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:35.799 money from the cash registers up to the office or 324 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:36.720 there's something else. 325 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:37.599 Yes, they didn't. 326 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:38.000 They didn't. 327 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:42.680 They didn't have cash registers. The money they put the 328 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:46.240 money or the charge. It was a charge slip because 329 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:48.599 it wasn't credit, because you had to pay it. It 330 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:50.640 was a charge slip to put the charge slip by 331 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:52.920 the cash in the order for him and the in 332 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:56.480 the pneumatic tube and go. And then there'd be a 333 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.039 bunch of people upstairs, you know, working at desks and 334 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.240 and with elastics around their arms and things, opening them 335 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:05.799 and making the change and then sending amay you know 336 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:09.279 or another. They always got back to the right place. 337 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:13.920 And that was in the fifties and sixties and probably 338 00:20:13.960 --> 00:20:19.400 the forties because they existed almost at the corner of 339 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:22.839 Winter and Tree Art. 340 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:28.000 Yes, and which so the other side didn't have a 341 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:31.440 p noumatic qussion. Were they using runners or something? 342 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:35.680 As I remember, they had cash registers at Violin's and 343 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:39.839 at Jordan's and most of the other major downtown establishments. 344 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:41.000 Wow. 345 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:47.960 By the nineteen fifties, nomadic tubes were kind of you know, archaic, 346 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.279 but you know it's even Lord and Taylor's down at 347 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:57.079 saulsho Aplaza had had pneumatic tubes until you know, towards 348 00:20:57.119 --> 00:21:00.759 the end of their existence. And and I know that like, 349 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:03.039 for instance, my one of the branches of the bank 350 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:07.519 that I use in in Danvers, if you pull up 351 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.440 to the outside teller and use the pneumatic tube to yeah, 352 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:14.759 you put your your checks and things and it goes in. 353 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:17.279 And I use this periodically. 354 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:22.519 I use the citizens in Denim right behind the golf 355 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.880 gas station and they to use the pneumatic tube. 356 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:33.839 Yeah, okay, I appreciate the historic information very much as 357 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:35.160 very entertaining show. 358 00:21:35.279 --> 00:21:37.079 Thank you. 359 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:42.680 But uh, drive through yeah, drive through downtown crossing. I 360 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:46.400 like the Christmas tree that Macy's puts up on the 361 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:50.319 overhang there. Uh, it's a lowly healy area. I can't. 362 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:53.240 I can't walk Washington Street. I don't work too well. 363 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:56.160 But it's a it's a lively area to drive through. Sure, 364 00:21:56.519 --> 00:21:59.480 yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you can't drive down Washington 365 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.119 Street too. I can drive an hour yea. 366 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:10.799 Yeah, if you were coming up Franklin Street and there's 367 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:17.359 that light where Bromfield begins. I think you can take 368 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:24.200 that right onto Washington because from there Washington allows traffic 369 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:25.680 right right. 370 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:28.039 I didn't think you could even get up to Washington 371 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.720 Street from Franklin any longer. I thought that had ended 372 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:32.119 at Holly Street. 373 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:37.440 No, you know what, You're not supposed to. But I 374 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:41.720 did a show there all last summer at the Stone 375 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.799 steps out there, oh kay, And there was constant traffic. 376 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.599 I was there every Thursday for like ten weeks, and 377 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:57.079 there was constant traffic coming up Franklin. And to the 378 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:03.359 right is oh CV, yes and Old Navy. 379 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:05.559 Yeah. 380 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:09.880 So I don't know why you could, but you could. 381 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:14.039 Thank you for calling gentlemen. 382 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:18.559 You Jack, I'm going to. 383 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:23.480 Ask you if you remember your sweet mother taking you 384 00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:28.319 to Kennedy's. Now, there were two Kennedy's in the downtown area. 385 00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:31.400 One was for butter and eggs and one was for 386 00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:33.759 men's and boys suits. 387 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:34.839 That's right. 388 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:36.599 The one for men and boys suits was at the 389 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:39.480 top of the wooden steps coming out of Washington Street station. 390 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:43.599 Yes, so did you get a suit at Kennedy's. So 391 00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:45.920 get fit for a suit at Kennedy's. 392 00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:50.039 Oh I know that I had been into Kennedy as 393 00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:52.279 many as the time, you know, and if I wasn't 394 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:54.799 fitted for a suit there, then then you know, I 395 00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:57.000 know I got some pants and little tie or something. 396 00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:58.759 In their time or two, we used to get to 397 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:03.200 like suits and things in the basement, Rightlean's basement. 398 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:05.319 Oh so they were cheaper. 399 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:10.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know they had the automatic markdowns. 400 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:14.720 Kennedy down twenty five always always bragging that their prices 401 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:18.319