Speaker 1: Y'all.
Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome, welcome to Calling All Beings Dean episode. We
Speaker 2: have the awesome DJ backstage, the awesome Terry.
Speaker 3: Busy sorry, boozy Beauty.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm the one that's a little boozed and
Speaker 2: the beautiful st And now for my Spanish speaking crown,
Speaker 2: Layama tries present programa. The Yamando says, so without further ado,
Speaker 2: let's bring up DJ.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 3: Can I get it?
Speaker 4: Man and man pre Calling All Beings A my homie
Speaker 4: right there, Beatrice, the host of this joint, All right,
Speaker 4: who's next?
Speaker 3: All right, let's bring up Terry.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. There she goes.
Speaker 5: Good evening everyone.
Speaker 1: Oh what happened to my applause? It faded out there?
Speaker 1: She goes good evening Terry? Right here? All alright, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: who do we got next?
Speaker 3: All right, we got next? We have Boozy Beauty.
Speaker 1: There we go. Now we talk.
Speaker 2: And up next, hold on, go ahead, right now, bring
Speaker 2: up the beautiful ass.
Speaker 1: My dean home girls, Thank you, thank you, everybody appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys. All right, all right, uh, we just want
Speaker 1: to say hello to everybody in the chap before we
Speaker 1: kick this thing. Off and kind of give the rules
Speaker 1: of engagement here. So let's see. We got Sherry D's here.
Speaker 1: I got an amen from Sherry D. What's up?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Tima is in the house. Hello, who's this Dragonfly? What's
Speaker 1: going on? Homie? I know, yeah, I haven't seen dragonfly.
Speaker 1: Reality check is in the building a net? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Home girl? You? We love you? Deborah Holmes And to
Speaker 1: Deborah is only one thing we can say? What's up?
Speaker 1: Homes like that? Everybody they're like, DJ, shut up? All right?
Speaker 1: Who else we got? All right? So Kevin Hi, Kevin Ce.
Speaker 1: Welcome or welcome back if you've been here before. Oh,
Speaker 1: and this is where where this is where Judge BEV
Speaker 1: does all the rulings right, not an open court inside
Speaker 1: by so uh Marjorie, I know I've seen you here before.
Speaker 1: Good evening, And Melanie, she's a member. Good evening. By
Speaker 1: the way, we're doing the member roundtable will be the
Speaker 1: week after next. Next week is my bald head of
Speaker 1: brother Jason Broyles. And then we're gonna have the members
Speaker 1: slash listener round table. If somebody wants in it, we'll
Speaker 1: see if we can get you in. And I know
Speaker 1: miss Jessica gonna be in here, be kinder than necessary,
Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Terry? Right?
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: I love that me too. There's so many creative ones.
Speaker 1: I love Suis Sponte, who's always in in the chat
Speaker 1: with h with Melanie Little uh, the greatest content creator
Speaker 1: of them all. All right? Uh And and he said,
Speaker 1: I'm literally in tears seeing my two besties up there.
Speaker 1: I've miss seeing their faces so much. Yeah, I second
Speaker 1: that motion. Uh, your honor and this this lady right here,
Speaker 1: big ups for please pass the pepper because she's supporting
Speaker 1: so many of us in all his content creators. So
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. All right, I'll let
Speaker 1: me turn it home.
Speaker 5: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Who doggies? Oh man? Yeah, please one love to the doggies.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know we're very pet friendly here. We and have
Speaker 1: the FKR Cat Club led by Meredith O'Neill. So all right,
Speaker 1: I got to turn it over to my homegirl right now,
Speaker 1: the host of this joint, Beatrice. What up? Beatrice?
Speaker 3: All right? So we're going to get started. So we're
Speaker 3: going to go around in a circle.
Speaker 2: So we'll start with Terry, I keep messing up your name,
Speaker 2: Boothy A beauty SD and DJ.
Speaker 5: O dog.
Speaker 2: All right, starting with Terry, So tell us about your
Speaker 2: experience at Dean.
Speaker 7: Okay, I've been on the I was on the board
Speaker 7: of trustees at Dean for twenty nine years. I started
Speaker 7: in nineteen ninety four and I retired about a year ago.
Speaker 7: And I don't know if many of you know what
Speaker 7: the role of a board a trustee person is, but
Speaker 7: our duties are to preserve the college's mission. That's our
Speaker 7: number one duty. We have financial responsibility setting the budget.
Speaker 7: We don't manage the college. We hire a president and
Speaker 7: we took president to run the college. We serve as
Speaker 7: a bridge to the community. We evaluate the performance of
Speaker 7: the president. We have the fiduciary responsibility for the for
Speaker 7: the college, for the investments, the endowment, and a big
Speaker 7: part of the role of a trustee is fundraising. So
Speaker 7: that's that's what I've been doing for twenty nine years.
Speaker 7: When I reached the age of eighty, I told him
Speaker 7: I wanted to retire because I had other things to do.
Speaker 7: So they asked me to stay on another year, and
Speaker 7: I did. And at that point I got involved in
Speaker 7: Karen Reid movement, and so I said I really had
Speaker 7: to leave Dean. Then because I just couldn't do both
Speaker 7: things at the same time and time commitment, and I
Speaker 7: felt twenty nine years, you know, it was time for
Speaker 7: someone else to take over. But it was a wonderful experience,
Speaker 7: wonderful twenty nine years. We're the best board of trustees,
Speaker 7: magnificent people and for twenty nine years it was a
Speaker 7: pleasure to serve there.
Speaker 1: Nice and can I just follow up with one thing?
Speaker 1: So the president now his name is Mark President, is
Speaker 1: it boys?
Speaker 5: Okay? He's the interim president. Now. I left.
Speaker 7: When I first went on the board, we a president
Speaker 7: had just left and I was on the selection committee
Speaker 7: and we hired the most awesome president that we had
Speaker 7: for twenty seven years, doctor Paula Rooney, and she brought
Speaker 7: the college. You know, we went from a junior college
Speaker 7: to a four year institution and from a nine million
Speaker 7: dollar endowment to a forty fifty million dollar endowment. So
Speaker 7: she did wonderful things for the school. And when she
Speaker 7: announced her retirement, that's when I said, I, you know,
Speaker 7: it was time for me to leave. I wasn't leaving
Speaker 7: because she left, but what we were kind of in
Speaker 7: it for the whole twenty seven years she was on there,
Speaker 7: so you know we have we have to give much
Speaker 7: thanks to doctor Roney because she brought the school so far.
Speaker 7: The other interesting thing is the mission of the school.
Speaker 7: When I first came on, it's still the mission of
Speaker 7: the school. And I talked to President Interim President Boise
Speaker 7: the other day and he assured me that we were
Speaker 7: we were continuing to do that, we were continuing with
Speaker 7: our original mission, and he's he's excited. I told him
Speaker 7: I was going to be on and that we were
Speaker 7: going to be talking about Dean and he's very much
Speaker 7: interested in engaging the alumni to a much greater degree
Speaker 7: as we go forward. So I think you'll all be
Speaker 7: hearing more from him.
Speaker 1: Thank you, President Boyce, You're going to see some money
Speaker 1: coming your way this year from this kid. I also
Speaker 1: want to say to hello to the Dinos in the
Speaker 1: chat and if we're not speaking with you directly, the
Speaker 1: nature of the roundtable is such that we're going to
Speaker 1: go in a circular pattern. And I protesting all the
Speaker 1: time my girl so but love would love her. So
Speaker 1: the nature of the round table is such that we're
Speaker 1: gonna be going in a circular pattern when we get
Speaker 1: through this formatted portion of this quickly thing about that
Speaker 1: where we're gonna speak about Dean, we're also going to
Speaker 1: reflect on Dean at the end, and in between we're
Speaker 1: gonna do the Karen Reid roundtable. But after that it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a free for all pillow fight. So hopefully
Speaker 1: Terry has some like feather pillows, so if she smacks
Speaker 1: him over the head, the feathers are going, yeah there
Speaker 1: you go there already. And then we're going to engage
Speaker 1: with you guys in the chat and anything that that
Speaker 1: you want to say or talk about. I see someone say, Peter.
Speaker 1: If Peter Murphy's in here, I'm a freak out because
Speaker 1: that's my boy.
Speaker 5: Coming in tonight.
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, from one brother to another, I love you, Peter.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go now, Beatrice, go ahead, man.
Speaker 3: All right, So up next is Boozy Beauty. Tell me
Speaker 3: about your experience at Dean.
Speaker 8: Okay, well it's not as impressive as Terry's. I'm just
Speaker 8: gonna outright bloss.
Speaker 6: That's hard one to full up with DJ. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 6: he's like good. Okay.
Speaker 8: So I I was originally scouted for Dean for dance
Speaker 8: because I had been in a dance program for sixteen years,
Speaker 8: and dance and soccer unfortunately don't mesh too well. You
Speaker 8: can't do both. You can't do both because I also
Speaker 8: did soccer for sixteen years. So I ended up having
Speaker 8: to drop the dance program because I couldn't do both.
Speaker 8: So but yeah, so I did two years there and
Speaker 8: then I ended up transferring out to UMass Boston and
Speaker 8: Dean was actually the amount of people staying on campus
Speaker 8: was the same amount of my graduating high school class,
Speaker 8: so it was really small for me. It was a
Speaker 8: bit of a culture shock to me. They always say
Speaker 8: small towns, everyone knows you.
Speaker 6: It is true. It is true. Everyone on Dean College
Speaker 6: campus knew what everyone else was doing, good and bad.
Speaker 6: So it was fun. Though. It was a bit of
Speaker 6: a culture shock, but it was a good time. So yeah,
Speaker 6: all right, that's the year up next. Mine's a little long,
Speaker 6: Well I could make it short, it doesn't be long,
Speaker 6: all right. So first I just want to say Dean
Speaker 6: Dean College basically saved my life flat out. I wasn't
Speaker 6: sure exactly how I wanted to progress my dancing career,
Speaker 6: I guess you would say, And then to know that
Speaker 6: there was like a dance program, right in the same
Speaker 6: town that I mean here, I am doxing myself at
Speaker 6: the same time. When I grew up in was amazing
Speaker 6: because my father was very sick at the time. He
Speaker 6: was actually where's the tissues? He was actually in liver failure.
Speaker 6: And I didn't want to even go to college. I
Speaker 6: knew he was dying and very sick, and I didn't
Speaker 6: want to go to any other college. And Dean happened
Speaker 6: to be right there, and it was a blessing. I
Speaker 6: got to continue doing what I loved and studying it.
Speaker 6: The path was that I wanted to open up my
Speaker 6: own dance studio and be a dance teacher, continue doing
Speaker 6: what I love. Unfortunately, during my.
Speaker 5: Junior year.
Speaker 6: Wait it goes freshman, it was sophomore year. The second year.
Speaker 6: Sorry you did teach me about that second year, my
Speaker 6: father did pass and along with myself, I lost my identity.
Speaker 6: I lost I was a daddy's girl and I didn't
Speaker 6: even I didn't know how to function. But going back
Speaker 6: to Dean and being able to go on that dance
Speaker 6: floor and be around all the other dancers, my friends,
Speaker 6: was my outlet. It was where I could instead of
Speaker 6: being in my grief constantly. It was a way of
Speaker 6: being able to focus on my passion still and knowing
Speaker 6: that he so very much loved and enjoyed watching me dance,
Speaker 6: went to every dance recital. He was always the woe
Speaker 6: with the flowers, such a big deal out of it
Speaker 6: more and being able to stick with it at Dean
Speaker 6: and the community there that helped me through it too,
Speaker 6: because they were like, take two weeks off, we understand,
Speaker 6: and everybody even showed up for the wake, my father's
Speaker 6: wake in funeral, it was just like, oh my God,
Speaker 6: like this community and first studying, I was able to
Speaker 6: even choreograph a routine dedicated to my father, which I
Speaker 6: was able to go through so many different emotions through
Speaker 6: the choreography, which it was a modern routine, which was
Speaker 6: my favorite, and just using that to express how I
Speaker 6: really did feel, because I wanted the world to know,
Speaker 6: like hello world, my father, my number one hero in
Speaker 6: this planet passed away. Like who's able to do that?
Speaker 6: But I was able to do that through choreographing for
Speaker 6: people to see and express it that way and get
Speaker 6: it out that way. It was an amazing, amazing tool.
Speaker 6: I mean, I can't say any more about my experience
Speaker 6: at Dean than saving my life because I could have
Speaker 6: I could have been lost and went to things to
Speaker 6: self medicate myself. But instead I had a community that
Speaker 6: lifted me up, embraced me. And then it was the
Speaker 6: same year that they said, oh, we're turning this into
Speaker 6: a four year program. You can get your bachelor's And
Speaker 6: there was light at the end of the tunnel for me.
Speaker 6: It was something for me to work at and strive
Speaker 6: for it and be like, listen, I'm not lost. Yeah
Speaker 6: he's not here, my father's not here for me anymore,
Speaker 6: or but I can still have that focus that we
Speaker 6: talked about and he wanted for me. So thank you Dean.
Speaker 6: There we go.
Speaker 2: I told you, thank you, thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2: That's an amazing story out of tragedy that you know
Speaker 2: you can We're able to express yourself and.
Speaker 3: Had an outlet. So that's amazing. All right, DJ, why
Speaker 3: don't you tell us about your experience at Dean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just kind of trying to connect with
Speaker 1: SD and thank her for for sharing that that amazing story.
Speaker 1: I just, uh, Terry will know. Our quarterback Tony Gara
Speaker 1: and his mom worked at Dean and he's a Franklin
Speaker 1: native also, or you may remember Tony Guera g U
Speaker 1: E R R A. And so he was quarterback when
Speaker 1: I was there, and he was my he's my quarterback,
Speaker 1: I'll put it to that way. And so I just
Speaker 1: messaged him that we're on air and that st was
Speaker 1: sharing also a Franklin native, was sharing that beautiful story
Speaker 1: that everybody should hear and be inspired by. Like I
Speaker 1: just was real quickly. So I'm gonna try to make
Speaker 1: this as quick as possible. I was a special ed
Speaker 1: kid in high school. I don't know if that was
Speaker 1: due to fights some learning disabilities, even though I read
Speaker 1: at a twelfth grade level when I was in like
Speaker 1: fourth grade, But despite that, I was designated as a
Speaker 1: learning disabled and that followed me from middle school throughout
Speaker 1: high school, both in Florida and in New York. So
Speaker 1: the middle two years were in Florida. I did not
Speaker 1: do well there. I had no aspirations or dreams of
Speaker 1: what I might do. But I thank god, one of
Speaker 1: the few really awesome things that my father did was
Speaker 1: bring me tell me to come back to New York
Speaker 1: for senior year, where I was inspired by people who
Speaker 1: also had keg parties. But did their school work all
Speaker 1: week and got stuff done and got good grades, and
Speaker 1: so my grades went up significantly. So my guidance counselor said,
Speaker 1: I think you should apply to Dean. It's a two
Speaker 1: year school in Franklin, Mass So I did. And the
Speaker 1: day I got called down to the guidance counselor's office
Speaker 1: and they said I got into Dean, I literally was
Speaker 1: like running down the hallway doing cartwheels, literally because I
Speaker 1: didn't even think that I could go to I never
Speaker 1: thought I could go to college. So I arrived at
Speaker 1: Dean and my dad dropped me off there and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have ad its on. You know, we'll give you
Speaker 1: twenty bucks a week or whatever for your allowance and
Speaker 1: have fun. And when I needed to come home, I
Speaker 1: had to find a way home to New York, like
Speaker 1: he wasn't coming to get me a Dean or things
Speaker 1: like that. So I was inspired enough from senior that
Speaker 1: senior year and joining wrestling that I decided I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a Dean football player. Problem was, I'd never
Speaker 1: played football down in my life, never put it in uniform,
Speaker 1: never done anything. So I went to my roommate was
Speaker 1: also from New Rochelle New York. He was a football player,
Speaker 1: had just finished camp and said, yeah, yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 1: I hear they're gonna have open tryouts. Come out and
Speaker 1: try out. He said, did you play in high school?
Speaker 1: I said, oh, yeah, I've played in high school. Sure
Speaker 1: I did. So I went down to coach Adaway's office,
Speaker 1: which was adjacent to the basketball gym. If you know
Speaker 1: where the basketball gym is at Dean, just to the
Speaker 1: right of that hallway going out towards the field, that's
Speaker 1: where coach Adaway's office was. And I said, hey. He
Speaker 1: was sitting there and I said, I was like, should
Speaker 1: I shouldn't I? So I knocked on the door, said hey, coach,
Speaker 1: I hear you're having open tryouts. Yeah, it's this day.
Speaker 1: He's like, you're kind of small. Have you played? I
Speaker 1: said yeah. He said do you have tapes? I said,
Speaker 1: I left him back home, don't have any with me.
Speaker 1: So I said, well, you can come try out. So
Speaker 1: Dean took us off for a medical and long story short,
Speaker 1: it was a two week hazing uh and I made
Speaker 1: out of about ten of us, I think four of
Speaker 1: us made the team from as walk ons. Out of
Speaker 1: about about ten of us that tried out. That was
Speaker 1: changed my life because then, you know, classes had already
Speaker 1: started and I seemed to be able to keep up
Speaker 1: with the work and I wasn't the stupid kid that
Speaker 1: I thought I was, and had these great professors and
Speaker 1: and then now I made the football team, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't even have to put the equipment on.
Speaker 1: I was literally looking at other dudes in the locker
Speaker 1: room to see where these pads go and all that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was right out of a movie. But
Speaker 1: fake it till you make it. Yeah right, yeah, so right.
Speaker 1: So so I'm not gonna bore you because I'm going
Speaker 1: to have more reflections at the end of the show
Speaker 1: about Dean, but suffice it to say, it was the
Speaker 1: best one year of my life. I was living a dream.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll cut to the chase. My I got
Speaker 1: an invitation to come back to football camp for eighty
Speaker 1: six eighty seven. My father handed me the invitation, said
Speaker 1: you're not going back to Dean, I'm moving to Italy.
Speaker 1: See you later. You're on your own. Buy So that
Speaker 1: was the end of the story. But while I was there,
Speaker 1: it was just the most amazing experience to be part
Speaker 1: of all of a sudden, I'm an athlete, Like what,
Speaker 1: I didn't even play sports other than wrestling, So now
Speaker 1: here I am as a football player and succeeding in
Speaker 1: class something that I didn't know was possible. So everything
Speaker 1: that's come after that I have to thank for Dean.
Speaker 1: I'll go into more detail about it later, but Dean
Speaker 1: is just I don't want I'm gonna. I don't want
Speaker 1: to cry right now, so I'm just gonna let it
Speaker 1: go for now and I'll reflect back on it at
Speaker 1: the end. So when I cry, we're going to be
Speaker 1: ending the show. So go ahead, please, miss Beatrice.
Speaker 2: All right, if you can describe Dean with one word,
Speaker 2: what would it be?
Speaker 5: Terry nurturing?
Speaker 6: M all right, boozy, my experience was a little different.
Speaker 5: That's okay.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can use two words. I'll let you use
Speaker 2: two words if you want.
Speaker 6: Welcome to my world. Literally, that's what I get for
Speaker 6: being naughty.
Speaker 8: We'll say, oh god, oh god, I'm not good on
Speaker 8: the spot.
Speaker 6: Go to go to st first. I'm not going, but
Speaker 6: one word for being college. I mean, back to my story.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'll just say saving grace, one, euphoria, utopia, utopia,
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 1: Formative. It was a formative experience, and a lot of it.
Speaker 1: It's you know when you're somebody like like Boozy, where
Speaker 1: you played soccer, you were successful. You know, she was
Speaker 1: a dancer. She she was brimming with confidence leaving high school.
Speaker 1: So she may not have had well, just based on that,
Speaker 1: just based on what just based on what you've told us,
Speaker 1: is not the same as somebody who's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I need an institution to save me, to make me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You may not have needed that.
Speaker 8: Oh no, oh no, I had a brother at home
Speaker 8: that was doing heroin and a functioning alcoholic for a mother.
Speaker 6: Oh no, oh really yeah yeah, yeah, I also needed
Speaker 6: to get out of the house. I needed somewhere to
Speaker 6: go that wasn't that wasn't at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you succeeded in spite of in spite of that, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's some of us didn't get the nurturing. I
Speaker 1: always tell these these kids that I meet that have
Speaker 1: a really nurturing sister, brother, mom, dad, I always say, man,
Speaker 1: that is so awesome. You know when they say I
Speaker 1: love my sister, or my brother's my best friend, or
Speaker 1: my mom, you know, my mom I lost my mom many,
Speaker 1: like nine years after Dean. But but my dad. You know,
Speaker 1: my dad I'm not close with. When I see people
Speaker 1: who are close with their parents and go, man, that
Speaker 1: is a blessing. Man, you rock? Hey, what's up buddy?
Speaker 1: Who were looking at hi? Lily? How are you love? Oh?
Speaker 1: You're a beauty too, man? Were like me before the show? Wow?
Speaker 1: All right? All right? Oh yes it is sidebar and grill.
Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent correct, man. I would you know?
Speaker 1: I would not be I would not be in the
Speaker 1: position I am today if it weren't for Dean. There's
Speaker 1: just no question about that. There's no question about that.
Speaker 6: So there's grades in high school. I barely slid through
Speaker 6: high school. Yeah so, I mean it was they allowed
Speaker 6: me in. I mean, thank you. But I did so
Speaker 6: well in school there compared to regular high school. I
Speaker 6: mean I was horror in math, but I was kicking
Speaker 6: button math at Dean like it was. I don't know
Speaker 6: if it was the environment or the professors, the teachers. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean amazing. I got a minor in business too,
Speaker 6: Like what a major and a minor me?
Speaker 1: I don't this doesn't surprise me at all. This doesn't
Speaker 1: surprise me at all, and Miss Jessica is that yes,
Speaker 1: we can get you a tour of Dean. I'll be
Speaker 1: back there again. Well, January's gonna be a little soon
Speaker 1: for you to get there, but next for next year's homecoming.
Speaker 1: I'll be back in any event, a Dean did I'm
Speaker 1: called for? I'm o be there all right. Let me
Speaker 1: turn it back to Beatrice for the Karen Reid portion
Speaker 1: of this joint and then we will return to Dean
Speaker 1: at the end of the show.
Speaker 6: Well, if anybody can, I just say, if anybody is
Speaker 6: doing the School of Dance, do it, or if you
Speaker 6: have nieces, even nephews. I mean, it's an amazing program.
Speaker 6: You get your bachelor's degree at an awesome college, and
Speaker 6: it's a small community, so you won't feel like you're
Speaker 6: you're looked past. You'll be able to talk to your professor.
Speaker 6: And it's because there's small classroom sizes too, And I
Speaker 6: mean just going in depth about dance more is incredible
Speaker 6: and the faculty is amazing too, and they'll there'll be
Speaker 6: people that you'll be able to go back to and
Speaker 6: reach out to you afterwards. And if you want to
Speaker 6: continue just being a dancer yourself or open up a studio.
Speaker 6: I mean having that small of a community to support
Speaker 6: you that way and being able to reach out to them.
Speaker 6: I'm I mean it's golden. I mean where else can
Speaker 6: you get that in the university.
Speaker 1: So I hate to digress again, I'm gonna just go
Speaker 1: off of what st just said. I don't care where
Speaker 1: you are in the country. And I've been to a
Speaker 1: number of college at campuses, not only when I was
Speaker 1: at Dean. I mean, hell, we played Harvard and Brown
Speaker 1: when I was there, we played in Springfield, we played it.
Speaker 1: And I've been to a number of colleges, both while
Speaker 1: I was at Dean and after. This is what a
Speaker 1: college is supposed to look like. When you're there, you
Speaker 1: are going to feel, and not every college has an
Speaker 1: environment that can provide that for you. The esthetic, everything
Speaker 1: about it says I'm in college, and it's and you
Speaker 1: see people all over the campus with Dean gear on.
Speaker 1: It's if you have a young person that really needs
Speaker 1: to be built up. I cannot recommend this enough to you.
Speaker 1: Someone whose grades perhaps are marginal and they're concerned about
Speaker 1: what kind of a this is the place that they
Speaker 1: you want to go and everything about Franklin, the surrounding
Speaker 1: community that that nurtures you. It's not only that, but
Speaker 1: like you said, the teachers, my history teacher, I still
Speaker 1: haven't forgotten stuff he said to me. And I'm here
Speaker 1: to tell you, folks, I don't have my age. I
Speaker 1: was there in nineteen eighty five, eighty six. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we were the Dean Demons. Then give you an idea
Speaker 1: how long ago this was. So anyway, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get to Karen Reid.
Speaker 6: And then sorry to put that in there.
Speaker 1: God, that is amazing.
Speaker 6: And here that I brought him in cupcakes for his birthday.
Speaker 6: I might have been brown nosing, but he was a
Speaker 6: cool teacher.
Speaker 3: So I was like, of.
Speaker 1: Course I got my degree in history because I'm sorry, boozy,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 6: Man saying that's so nice. That's all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got my degree in history because of the
Speaker 1: history teacher at Dean. So anyway, all right, like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm not crying now, I'm going to say that for
Speaker 1: the end, please Beatrice, let's yes, get angry.
Speaker 2: Usually want to come back and answer the question about Yes,
Speaker 2: the one one word to describe Dean for you.
Speaker 6: It was a fun learning experience. It was humbling for.
Speaker 8: My uh my, my large graduating class of like it's
Speaker 8: almost six hundred down to like five hundred.
Speaker 5: One camp.
Speaker 1: It's eleven now, So I'm going into.
Speaker 6: A class with other people wearing your units hard hard
Speaker 6: when I tell when I tell you.
Speaker 8: Like my first semester, I tried doing dance and soccer
Speaker 8: at the same time, and like I quickly realized, like
Speaker 8: this is not going to work out.
Speaker 6: Girl, you are not getting sleep.
Speaker 8: I don't know how you're supposed to get all these
Speaker 8: regular credits in as well as do dance and then
Speaker 8: go to soccer practice.
Speaker 6: Oh, now your soccer.
Speaker 8: Coach wants to do two a days because now he's
Speaker 8: mad at y'all for not being conditioned. No, no, I
Speaker 8: had a taba.
Speaker 1: You got I. You had the guts, You had the
Speaker 1: guts to try.
Speaker 6: So I took on that we were just known as
Speaker 6: the bun heads coming in after ballet class, like just
Speaker 6: coming in and sitting down in a class where everybody's
Speaker 6: else in their pajamas and we're like, what have you
Speaker 6: guys been doing? Yeps, and like tondues all morning?
Speaker 1: Get point, All right, let's let's kick this thing off.
Speaker 1: Let's hit it all right.
Speaker 3: I'll start us off with the first question.
Speaker 2: So, in regards to the Karen Reid case, what made
Speaker 2: you what piqued your interest?
Speaker 5: Harry, Oh, that's easy. I knew John O'Keeffe, so.
Speaker 7: In going to for however, nineteen twenty months of going
Speaker 7: to standouts and everything, I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 7: I might be wrong, but I don't think I've met
Speaker 7: anyone else who knew John O'Keeffe.
Speaker 5: The let me see, I wrote something down, and that's
Speaker 5: what I'm working for.
Speaker 1: I apologize extemporaneous.
Speaker 5: I know, I know.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know I was going to present
Speaker 1: her topic at this time too. But if Beatrice wants
Speaker 1: to go around the table, let's make this a quick
Speaker 1: hitter and then we'll go into the what your topic
Speaker 1: is that you brought?
Speaker 5: So go ahead, okay.
Speaker 7: So initially I got involved because I knew John o'keeth.
Speaker 7: I never called him JJ or Johnny like other people,
Speaker 7: but because he introduced himself to me as John. So
Speaker 7: when I think abouhim, I think of John. He was
Speaker 7: a young man that I met and sat with occasionally
Speaker 7: at sports events for probably five or six years.
Speaker 5: So I sat with him.
Speaker 7: You know a number of times we had pizza together,
Speaker 7: we spoke. I learned from him the story of how
Speaker 7: he was taking care of his niece and nephew. He'd
Speaker 7: always greet me with a hug, and how are you know,
Speaker 7: sometimes from one sports season to another, we wouldn't see
Speaker 7: each other for several months. But but I felt he
Speaker 7: was a friend, you know, not a close friend and
Speaker 7: not someone I knew for years, But but I just
Speaker 7: really admired him. I admired for what he was doing.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 7: His death, the violence of the death, the lack of
Speaker 7: the proper investigation, the fact that I heard almost from
Speaker 7: day one, the rumors that John hadn't been hit by
Speaker 7: a car and they were framing his girlfriend. I knew
Speaker 7: that when we when anything was done, I was going
Speaker 7: to be part of it. So that's that's how and
Speaker 7: why I got involved. I can go more, but but
Speaker 7: my I'll do my rest of my stuff with my topic.
Speaker 7: That's my story of how I got involved. To answer Beatrice,
Speaker 7: all right, boozie.
Speaker 3: Do you want to just tell us how you got involved?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was watching on TV right from the get go.
Speaker 6: Tay is Terry is fab I said, we have Terry.
Speaker 8: But yeah, real quick, I am being a local from
Speaker 8: Norfolk County. I saw the immediate the media, news, media,
Speaker 8: hustle and bustle about it, and from there it kind
Speaker 8: of snowballs. Because I like watching trials, so that means
Speaker 8: I like watching pre trials, and because this was local,
Speaker 8: I knew this was gon a big one, and I
Speaker 8: quickly learned that, you know, there's something amiss. And then
Speaker 8: having people interconnected with some of the main people, yeah,
Speaker 8: very quickly learns that this wasn't what they were trying
Speaker 8: to say.
Speaker 5: What was going on?
Speaker 3: Gotcha STI.
Speaker 6: I've always been a fan or a listener of true
Speaker 6: crime and like podcasts and stuff. And then when I
Speaker 6: heard about what happened. When it happened, you hear on
Speaker 6: the news like a girl backing accidentally backing up into
Speaker 6: her boyfriend, and I was like, Oh, that's unfortunate, very
Speaker 6: bad story to hear. And then I hear later on that, oh,
Speaker 6: but the people inside the house, they were all police officers,
Speaker 6: and it was a police officer that passed away, and
Speaker 6: I was like, h just even hearing that, because sometimes
Speaker 6: you do hear about police brutality against each against each other.
Speaker 6: And then you're drinking and things can get out of hand.
Speaker 6: And I was like, oh, even before I even heard
Speaker 6: about Turtle Boy or anything, kind of put that together
Speaker 6: in my head, thinking, Oh, there's other police officers, they're
Speaker 6: at a party, they're all drinking. Something must have happened
Speaker 6: that went wrong out there, and then they put him
Speaker 6: out front to make it seem like and then all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, the two twenty seven came out and
Speaker 6: I was like, oh shit, and I was like, there's
Speaker 6: more people involved than just the police officers. And then
Speaker 6: hearing about the trial starting and that it was right
Speaker 6: down to debt him and I had to be there.
Speaker 6: I made it down for the first day or the
Speaker 6: last day of the hearing, and then the first day
Speaker 6: of the trial, and then from there I just watched
Speaker 6: Tom's Lives and then other YouTube creators talking about it,
Speaker 6: and then from there I was like just hooked on. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we can go on and on, but like that's how
Speaker 6: I got involved, just hearing it through the news and
Speaker 6: then just having a brain putting it together self, even
Speaker 6: before hearing all the other things about butt dials and
Speaker 6: and solo cops and stuff like that, like, yeah, I
Speaker 6: didn't need like all that other stuff. It just made sense.
Speaker 6: Police some police are not that great when they're drinking too.
Speaker 6: They're human, and accidents happen with other police officers.
Speaker 1: So how about you, DJ, I just want to say, Kimberly,
Speaker 1: is it. Cogliano here says Terry's so proud you look awesome.
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 5: And now Lianne, she's my hairdresser.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's doing a marvelous job.
Speaker 1: She is. Your hair looks great. I'm taking hair donations
Speaker 1: by the way, this year. Leanne Bravo from class of
Speaker 1: two thousand and one just texted me and just so
Speaker 1: happy about the panel. So so yeah, real quickly, we
Speaker 1: had just started. I had told calling all beings. You
Speaker 1: don't see my regular co hosts here whom I love,
Speaker 1: Nathan Debs and Courtney. They are very deeply involved in
Speaker 1: the UFO topic and they cover Bigfoot. We've covered bigfoot
Speaker 1: as well in some paranormal Someone just made up a
Speaker 1: super chat. I'm going to acknowledge you and thank you
Speaker 1: very kind person. But I had just started true crime.
Speaker 1: We sent Courtney to Pennsylvania to look into the case
Speaker 1: of missing a woman named Shelva Rafti, a forty four
Speaker 1: year old missing mom, missing since two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: There were people in town that scared her out of
Speaker 1: town after she had gone around, asked questions, took photos,
Speaker 1: and the police now work and guess where the DA's office.
Speaker 1: They did not want to meet with her and talk
Speaker 1: about the case. There is mob connection and it was
Speaker 1: her boyfriend. There was the last person who saw her.
Speaker 1: So at the conclusion of this investigation, where one investigation
Speaker 1: deep in true crime, I become aware of Karen Reid.
Speaker 1: Ironically through Matt Phelps. He had mentioned Turtle Boy and
Speaker 1: this woman named Karen Reid and supposedly she backed over
Speaker 1: her boyfriend or something. So I think it was The
Speaker 1: Young Jerks is the first show that I listened to,
Speaker 1: and when I heard the details of this case, I
Speaker 1: knew something was up. I didn't buy it. It was
Speaker 1: obvious to anyone with common sense. You don't have to
Speaker 1: be from Massachusetts, you don't have to know all the players.
Speaker 1: When you hear the details of the case, and you
Speaker 1: knew the fix was in and that it was another
Speaker 1: Boston cop that owned the house, that was it. I
Speaker 1: dove headfirst into this case. I did a solo podcast
Speaker 1: my co host did not want to cover true crime
Speaker 1: with me really, and I said, Okay, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: and cover this Karen Reid case. Nobody knows me, nobody
Speaker 1: remembers me from Massachusetts. Uh, and I got Sean McDonough
Speaker 1: to come on, and then all of a sudden people
Speaker 1: started to recognize me, and it it snowballed from there.
Speaker 1: Mike's come on, Kim's come on BETTERO has come on,
Speaker 1: Mas has come on. Uh, there's a girl named Beatrice
Speaker 1: that came on, so Missy. You know, all kinds of
Speaker 1: people have come on. So and I just said, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be. I am going to stay with this
Speaker 1: until the end. That's so that that's how I became.
Speaker 1: I'm angry and I you know my Uh, one of
Speaker 1: my classmates from high school is a very she's won
Speaker 1: an Academy Award as a director. She could not and
Speaker 1: I've said this to Beatrice, she could not write this
Speaker 1: story like you. You could not as a writer of scripts.
Speaker 1: You could not dream this up and write this because
Speaker 1: what would happen is studio exec would read your script
Speaker 1: and go, nah, there's no way you're telling me all
Speaker 1: these Okay, you have DJ you've created too grand a
Speaker 1: conspiracy bro. Nobody is going to believe this. Like, it's
Speaker 1: not believable. That's why I'm here. It's just yes, like
Speaker 1: it's not possible. Judy, how are you Love? We're going
Speaker 1: to see you soon. You're welcome on the round table,
Speaker 1: and thank you so much for being awesome for the
Speaker 1: twenty dollars. JPM, Sorry, are you ready to start the
Speaker 1: round table?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: All right? You can pass it to Terry first with
Speaker 1: her topic.
Speaker 7: Okay, my topic was called back to basics, but kind
Speaker 7: of Beatrice kind of tricked me a little bit nice
Speaker 7: my question, So I'm still going to continue it and
Speaker 7: you can answer whatever way you want, because this is
Speaker 7: what I was going to do. I want to start
Speaker 7: off by saying, we here can't undo what's been said
Speaker 7: and done for the past.
Speaker 9: Few weeks in the movement, but I think we we
Speaker 9: should and should go back to the basics, the reason
Speaker 9: we all join this movement.
Speaker 7: I'd like to talk about the start and the evolution
Speaker 7: of the movement from the perspective of those who came
Speaker 7: to stand out support physically, support emotionally and financially, and
Speaker 7: ask how and why you got involved in what keeps
Speaker 7: you here. So that's a little twist on Beatrice. But
Speaker 7: and I'm going to start off by saying, the grassroots
Speaker 7: movement started almost two years ago with three Canton citizens.
Speaker 7: Some of you probably know this Estie. I've hudged so
Speaker 7: many times that it stands out. I don't know if
Speaker 7: you remember Sti, but I used to think you were
Speaker 7: Renee because you're both tall and blond and beautiful, so
Speaker 7: and I kind of mix you up sometimes, but Sti's
Speaker 7: one of the ones that I've met so many times
Speaker 7: standing out. But it started with three Canton citizens, very
Speaker 7: courageous Canton citizens who had heard the story, were in town,
Speaker 7: didn't know John, but but knew the story and felt
Speaker 7: there was something wrong. And the three of them stood
Speaker 7: out for weeks, just the three of them.
Speaker 5: On Canton Street.
Speaker 7: They were cursed at and their families were threatened. You know,
Speaker 7: a lot of things happened to them, but they persevered,
Speaker 7: and you know, one by one people started joining them,
Speaker 7: and you know that others, you know, as it went on,
Speaker 7: others from the cornwell, different cities got involved in states
Speaker 7: and then and even when into NAT but I just
Speaker 7: kind of like to shout out, I shouldn't say names
Speaker 7: because I'm going to miss someone, but I just have
Speaker 7: to say Carol Kevin, Gail Rita, Jen Brenda, Dennis Peter, John,
Speaker 7: Sean Colburn, Neil, to just name a few. These are
Speaker 7: the people who have been in the backbone of this movement.
Speaker 7: They've been out there day after day, week after week,
Speaker 7: and and this movement wouldn't be what it is without them.
Speaker 7: I'm purposely leaving out tonight the content creators. We all
Speaker 7: know who they are, and we're all extremely grateful to them.
Speaker 7: They've done an awesome job. They've you know, and I'll
Speaker 7: say Aiden's name. He started this, He researched, and he
Speaker 7: brought us it all to the forefront front. And but
Speaker 7: we've talked so much about them the last two weeks
Speaker 7: that if I was involved tonight, I wanted to bring
Speaker 7: it in another direction. To the people who are involved,
Speaker 7: I'd like to discuss the focus of the movement as
Speaker 7: a whole, and the thousands of people who've contributed so
Speaker 7: many ways to this, to this movement with little recognition.
Speaker 7: You know, we've been accused of getting paid, We've been
Speaker 7: accused of you know, people paying for our signs, and
Speaker 7: all you have to do is go out there once
Speaker 7: and you'll know that that's not true. You know, it's
Speaker 7: a peaceful, wonderful, welcoming group no matter who comes. People
Speaker 7: would give their time and talent and resources to this movement,
Speaker 7: people who never knew each other. Most of the people
Speaker 7: don't didn't know one other person when they came. They'll
Speaker 7: just come and say, oh, I'm from wherever. People come
Speaker 7: drive two hours to stand out with us, and it's
Speaker 7: been a wonderful experience. You know, we've stood out in
Speaker 7: the snow and the rain and the heat the summer,
Speaker 7: and we're not looking for anything. We just want justice,
Speaker 7: Justice for Karen, justice for John. And as it evolved,
Speaker 7: then it was Sander Birchmore and her I'm born baby,
Speaker 7: and then Enrique. I just can't tell you the kind
Speaker 7: of people I've met in this movement. They've been all ages,
Speaker 7: from all walks of life and from all different places.
Speaker 7: And then they were the common denominators besides their passion
Speaker 7: and support for freedom for Karen and justice for John O'Keefe.
Speaker 7: As I got to know them, everyone had a story
Speaker 7: and they were common denial dominators of the story about
Speaker 7: how they got involved. Most of them, as I told
Speaker 7: you before, I never met John O'Keefe.
Speaker 5: Most of them.
Speaker 7: Oh, I didn't know Karen Reid. I never knew Karen Reid.
Speaker 7: I knew John, but not Karen. And as they started
Speaker 7: following the story, each person something triggered them when they
Speaker 7: heard about the story. One of the themes I heard
Speaker 7: over and over is that could be me, that could
Speaker 7: be my daughter, that could be my sister.
Speaker 5: And they were.
Speaker 7: Also inspired by Karen's courage and her determination. So and
Speaker 7: then they then as you spoke to people, they're concerned
Speaker 7: about their First Amendment rights. So as the pre trial
Speaker 7: and the trial proceeded, we saw corruption coming out, in competence,
Speaker 7: the trampling of our First Amendment rights, the misuse of power.
Speaker 7: I mean, think about the Canton nine, duck Gate, contaminated balloons,
Speaker 7: buffer zones, unannounced visits to peaceful protesters by the mass
Speaker 7: tery police. People are just fed up with this, and
Speaker 7: they're more determined, more determined than ever. So you know this,
Speaker 7: this is a movement and it's and it's hitting a
Speaker 7: lot of people. I'm going to just quote from a
Speaker 7: couple of the recent posts from some of the original supporters.
Speaker 5: An S.
Speaker 7: A quote of yours is in here. I hope you
Speaker 7: don't mind, but this is what I'm hearing from the people.
Speaker 7: Continue to keep the focus on what we've set out
Speaker 7: to accomplish nineteen months ago. It's time to cut out
Speaker 7: all the nonsense and get back to our roots, back
Speaker 7: to our street corners with our signs another one. Karen
Speaker 7: has assembled a fantastic legal team.
Speaker 5: Let them do their job.
Speaker 7: Karen needs us, and we need to remember where we
Speaker 7: came from and where we want to go. Our destination
Speaker 7: is to free Karen and get justice for John Officer
Speaker 7: John O'Keefe. We're peaceful, our feet, supportive and devoted, devoted,
Speaker 7: and that's what we're all about. Everyone who shares the
Speaker 7: truth about Karen's innocent does just as much as the
Speaker 7: rest of us. There are people who can't be here,
Speaker 7: but they're supporting by sharing. They're standing out in Nevada
Speaker 7: and in Kentucky and different places, even if they stand alone.
Speaker 7: And one other person I think a shout out to
Speaker 7: is Denise pass Already. Here's a woman who lives somewhere
Speaker 7: west of Boston, and every day of the week, two
Speaker 7: hours a day, every afternoon, for a year, she stood
Speaker 7: out by herself over the Master Turnpike and supported that way. Wow,
Speaker 7: and you know that was her way of doing it.
Speaker 7: So people showing their support in different ways. Karen's standing
Speaker 7: up for her innocence and fighting against the people in
Speaker 7: system who framed her for the murder of John O'Keeffe.
Speaker 7: When we're threatened, its strengthens our resolve. We ain't got
Speaker 7: no quit. Justice for John O'Keeffe, justice for Karen Read,
Speaker 7: justice for Sandra Birchmore, justice for Enrique Delgado, and justice
Speaker 7: for all those who have had their rights violated in care.
Speaker 1: Can anybody give me an amen up in this joint? Man? Girlfriend?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I Also I also want to say thank you to
Speaker 1: Peter Murphy in the chat because Peter is responsible for
Speaker 1: me meeting Terry. I was walking around dean and for
Speaker 1: homecoming and got that message that about from Terry and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, this is Peter Murphy. So
Speaker 1: thank you, Peter. You're the greatest and you interested you
Speaker 1: meet you. You got me a new friend that I
Speaker 1: didn't have. So within the space of I don't think
Speaker 1: I met Boozy there, but in the space of twenty
Speaker 1: four hours I made let's see Kristen Morgan, Beatriz, Terry
Speaker 1: sd uh and I even met the man himself, I
Speaker 1: met the turtle bit. So anyway, all right, let me
Speaker 1: let me let this thing continue. Uh. So basically what
Speaker 1: we'll be looking for now, Boozy, is if you have
Speaker 1: any commentary or sd on what Terry just said, and
Speaker 1: if you'd like to reflect on what she said, I.
Speaker 6: Mean, incredible.
Speaker 8: Can we all in chat just say what an amazing
Speaker 8: person Terry is? Like, it's it's just amazing, amazing, you know, yeah,
Speaker 8: st you well upside down friend you Okay.
Speaker 6: Remember the last that I'm telling you. It's like it
Speaker 6: just wants to flip. It's it's it's just us.
Speaker 8: And thank god we don't have John on tonight because
Speaker 8: it would have just been a messing.
Speaker 1: Thank you Amy for becoming a member.
Speaker 6: So this is so some of you in chat may
Speaker 6: not know me. I'm a I'm a TikToker, I'm where
Speaker 6: Nurse Kim was. I'm over on tick talk.
Speaker 8: So I come on live youtubes occasionally. So that's why I.
Speaker 6: Don't think a lot of people know of me.
Speaker 8: And I am on Twitter sparingly because Twitter freaks me
Speaker 8: out sometimes. So one thing that I've always liked to
Speaker 8: go back to on my Twitter page is going back
Speaker 8: to the locals because I remember seeing those first couple
Speaker 8: of select Board meetings and starting seeing the fire in
Speaker 8: the fight, and I was like, oh, I got to
Speaker 8: talk about this because this is this is so much
Speaker 8: more than what the media is putting out, and I
Speaker 8: want to put the faces and the names that are
Speaker 8: not being talked about right, you know. And that's when
Speaker 8: I start talking about I start talking with the Peter
Speaker 8: Murphy's and the.
Speaker 6: Readers and the dentists.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, the people that I have been able
Speaker 8: to to show the residents of Canton, and that not
Speaker 8: only their their power, but their real stories and how
Speaker 8: this affects them. Because we know we're not always fiery
Speaker 8: and spicy. Sometimes we're depressed and we get sad, and
Speaker 8: it's we have to also express that and also say, listen,
Speaker 8: this is what it's like in the county in Canton
Speaker 8: right now, and we need to know like this, this
Speaker 8: stuff is only going to end or get better the
Speaker 8: more and more we call it out. So we have
Speaker 8: to keep calling out in note for things to change,
Speaker 8: because all of this went down for decades.
Speaker 6: This was not done just because of one case.
Speaker 8: As we all know, we're slowly starting to pick all
Speaker 8: the pieces together. It's very unfortunate that John's John's death
Speaker 8: was I think the starter of a lot of the
Speaker 8: lights underneath out of all of our asses. And I
Speaker 8: don't think they understand that the more things that these
Speaker 8: people do behind the scenes, the more of us are
Speaker 8: gonna start coming out because we're not going anywhere.
Speaker 6: Seliah, Terry, I.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you so much. I can't keep up with the
Speaker 1: Terry love and the chat because every third, every third
Speaker 1: message is I love Terry, Terry's aggress war Terry, Terry Harts.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're just like you're a superstar in this panel, Terry.
Speaker 1: Do you realize that?
Speaker 7: No, but it's I love them all. Back to It's
Speaker 7: you know, it's been a year. In all the bad
Speaker 7: things that have happened, there is a lot of good
Speaker 7: things that have come out of it. I've met wonderful people,
Speaker 7: We've become friends. I haven't met one person that I
Speaker 7: wouldn't want to spend time with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really it's and this is what Peter's saying.
Speaker 1: People helping people is where life begins. And this is
Speaker 1: looking through the prism or the lens of a man
Speaker 1: who retired from thirty years in law thirty plus years
Speaker 1: in law enforcement, and he said, you know what, I've
Speaker 1: found something I can channel my energy into. Is just
Speaker 1: sort of looking after people who have been wronged by
Speaker 1: the system. And he is this, this would really take
Speaker 1: me on a path of anger. But he is not
Speaker 1: afraid to do the right thing. And there are so
Speaker 1: many law enforcement officers that are scared to say, you
Speaker 1: know what, the wrong thing happened there in Canton, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it. And if you want to step
Speaker 1: to me, I just even happened in the Air Force
Speaker 1: when there was certain things that happened and someone said
Speaker 1: to me, oh, hey, DJ, you know do you I
Speaker 1: heard you think this or you support and said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's it. I mean you got a problem
Speaker 1: with it, colonel, lieutenant colonel. I mean I was an
Speaker 1: enlisted guy. So you know, but there is a certain
Speaker 1: leveling when you fly in the cockpit with people there's
Speaker 1: not there's no real rank, because if there's rank, you'd
Speaker 1: be afraid to say something if someone's about to crash
Speaker 1: the airplanes or do something stupid. And so you know,
Speaker 1: I wish there was more Peters out there. That's what
Speaker 1: we're lacking is in Peter Murphy's But getting back to it,
Speaker 1: the love. Oh wait, here's what Terry's savage. Terry, Amen,
Speaker 1: from Dennis, your friend Dennis, So from Judy, Judy Bestieri.
Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you for the new members that
Speaker 1: we got. And Amy, I know you came in wondering
Speaker 1: if this is a space a safe space. This is
Speaker 1: a safe space. You're not going to hear any uh
Speaker 1: Twitter kind of garbage here. We're here to spread positivity
Speaker 1: and kind of just share the love and of the movement.
Speaker 1: So let me let me turn it back over to
Speaker 1: st at this point.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I'll piggyback on the Peter Murphy stuff and I'll
Speaker 6: get sappy about it. Please, But how he says helping people,
Speaker 6: and I guess finding people like him brings me closer
Speaker 6: to having a father figure that I don't have. And
Speaker 6: that's why I'm like, just I'm in love with him.
Speaker 6: I'm in love with Peter Murphy done Sweeney, Like these
Speaker 6: these men that like their their passions that I share
Speaker 6: with them, and like it's just you just feel a
Speaker 6: sense of family and you feel a sense of like
Speaker 6: just comfort and safety. And it's been amazing to find
Speaker 6: that through this. And and that's the blessings that we
Speaker 6: have through all of this, is like that you're finding
Speaker 6: out about these people that you wouldn't normally like find
Speaker 6: or or meet in your normal everyday life, Like I'm
Speaker 6: here in Boston and what would bring me out to
Speaker 6: go to Canton or like anywhere else that they are
Speaker 6: like you know, And and so I've found this through
Speaker 6: this movement, and and then and then how John has
Speaker 6: passed in such a horrible way, and the way that
Speaker 6: he was treated has been looked over, but I want
Speaker 6: him to know that he has a legacy that's still happening.
Speaker 6: Although he's not here to do what he wanted to
Speaker 6: do here on earth, he is changing something that's happening
Speaker 6: in Norfolk County. And it's it's a god damn shame
Speaker 6: that it has to be that his life was taken
Speaker 6: in order for all of this to unfold, but he
Speaker 6: has and he will from now on be known as
Speaker 6: I don't want to say sacrifice, but because he passed,
Speaker 6: all of this has come to light. So that's his legacy,
Speaker 6: and that's something that should be cherished and at the
Speaker 6: same time a badass woman showing all of us other
Speaker 6: women that you don't have to lay down and take it.
Speaker 6: You can stand up and fight against it, and people
Speaker 6: that know your heart and know your truth will be
Speaker 6: there behind you. I mean Karen Reid, she is our
Speaker 6: badass woman that is showing, like, stand up for yourself.
Speaker 6: The people that know you and the people that hear
Speaker 6: you will be there and to back you up. And
Speaker 6: all of this is just fucking amazing. And nobody, no, show, no,
Speaker 6: somebody that's having an adult tantrum is going to ever
Speaker 6: break this movement up because there are people that have
Speaker 6: their hearts and souls in it, and there are people
Speaker 6: that have become family that is not going to ever
Speaker 6: break up because of it. And we're just going to
Speaker 6: keep going and keep moving forward because we know the
Speaker 6: truth and we are in it to see that truth
Speaker 6: come to fruition. And even after that, it's more happening.
Speaker 6: We got Sandra Burschmore, we got just Gone Route, We've
Speaker 6: got Enrique Delgaro Garcia, you know, and then hearing about
Speaker 6: Nathaniel Brown Tully was had his dirty hands in there.
Speaker 6: It's just so much is coming to light because of
Speaker 6: this tragedy. And that's the word I want to use
Speaker 6: for John. He has a legacy.
Speaker 1: Now. I mean, it'd be hard for me to really
Speaker 1: that you guys have said. Everything the three of you
Speaker 1: have said has been so inspiring to me, which is
Speaker 1: why you know why I'm here, and so everything you
Speaker 1: said just resonates with me one hundred percent. It's why
Speaker 1: I'm here. It's why I'm flying to Massachusetts in January.
Speaker 1: And it ain't gonna be the last time this year, year,
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five that I'm in Massachusetts. There's going
Speaker 1: to be more trips to Massachusetts and I will stand
Speaker 1: out with you guys as well. So you know, if
Speaker 1: I got the money for a plane ticket, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be there. So I wanna did you have some? You
Speaker 1: look like you're gonna say some. I want to respond
Speaker 1: to what Christina said here because Christina Resmussen is uh,
Speaker 1: she's gonna be on a future episode, but she is
Speaker 1: one of our our free care and read friends in
Speaker 1: Indiana and is showing her support for you every day.
Speaker 1: I sat here with her and watched her write a
Speaker 1: whole script out to say to the Canton Select Board
Speaker 1: I mean, and she's in Indiana, but she cares about you,
Speaker 1: and she thinks about you every day, and she's wondering
Speaker 1: how you're doing, and what happened at the standout? And
Speaker 1: is there any video? And she waves and she comes
Speaker 1: in the chat and so she wanted to know how
Speaker 1: many people here? So I want to highlight our friends.
Speaker 1: Ken is here from the UK from Nottingham, and Christine
Speaker 1: is here from She's here from Manchester. I'm from min
Speaker 1: you mate, you know? Can I? So? So we have
Speaker 1: our two Brits here. Sharon is here. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Sharon is just Irish, if she's just uh, putting
Speaker 1: the Irish flag out, or she's actually in Ireland. Laura's
Speaker 1: here from the UK too. What's up, home girl? So
Speaker 1: any of you that are here from somewhere that Alabama
Speaker 1: is in this building? What's up Melissa? So anybody that
Speaker 1: wants to state what country or state you're from, just
Speaker 1: for for our knowledge, I appreciate it. Uh, And then
Speaker 1: well I'll tip pass it back over to the boss
Speaker 1: over there. Beatrice.
Speaker 3: All right, so are you wanting me to ask questions
Speaker 3: or you want me to give my.
Speaker 1: Little So what's going to happen now is it's going
Speaker 1: to go to Boozy. It'll come around to you after myself.
Speaker 1: So Boozy will give her topic, her hypothesis or her
Speaker 1: question texas.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 6: I didn't want to. I didn't want to repeat the
Speaker 6: same thing as last time.
Speaker 8: So I always love hearing ultimately like what people think
Speaker 8: happened that night, because I've heard some very interesting stories
Speaker 8: from people that aren't from here. So I would like
Speaker 8: to hear, like, officially what everyone thinks happened on the
Speaker 8: night of January twenty ninth, twenty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, say that again, love, because I'm I'm I'm having
Speaker 1: a type in the chat and do this.
Speaker 8: Say Jay, why can't you do five things at once?
Speaker 1: I know, I know you should fire me right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, can you please state that again for
Speaker 1: the jury?
Speaker 6: It's for the jury, well, it's mainly for you.
Speaker 8: So it's just what you think happened, jeneratey night two.
Speaker 1: It's been getting sassy up in here. She's gonna be
Speaker 1: like a Scott McGinnis man. We're gonna have to alright,
Speaker 1: go ahead, al right, that goes, that goes all right?
Speaker 1: So what happened on the night Okay, I didn't, and
Speaker 1: I wish you would watch my show because I did
Speaker 1: an hour and forty five minutes nearly on this the
Speaker 1: other night. But I'll do a truncated and a bridge
Speaker 1: for the dictionary in a bridge version ary. So go ahead. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is to you, Love.
Speaker 6: Was this also our homework?
Speaker 1: Okay? This this is the homework Sharon? So we do
Speaker 1: have Sharon is here from she's here from in the
Speaker 1: West of Ireland. Welcome to the show, Sharon. It's a
Speaker 1: pleasure to have you here. Love. I hope that one
Speaker 1: was good. I don't know. She'll either give me a
Speaker 1: thumbs up or hey, DJ, that sucks. So anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 1: So that's to you, SD, and then it'll go to me.
Speaker 6: So what do I think happened that night?
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 6: Fuckery?
Speaker 1: It's Joan. We're not cursing on this one. No curse.
Speaker 9: I mean.
Speaker 6: He went in the house and see that's the thing,
Speaker 6: like I just I don't know if like me even
Speaker 6: like speculating is it's It's what I thought from the
Speaker 6: very beginning when that news station came out and I
Speaker 6: can't remember which one it was, but they were just
Speaker 6: like saying that they're not sure if it was an accident.
Speaker 6: Something happened inside the house. And I was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 6: they're all drinking, they're all drunk and something an accident
Speaker 6: maybe did happen, or maybe it wasn't even an accident.
Speaker 6: I mean, Higgy was so upset that he wasn't getting
Speaker 6: the girl. The girl didn't respond after he was like texting, um,
Speaker 6: well he got ignored. There was going and then you
Speaker 6: got Chris or not Chris Brian like pumping him up,
Speaker 6: being like yeah, and like wrestling with him, and it's
Speaker 6: just like you got testaterone and booze, then a girl
Speaker 6: ignoring you, and then you see the guy walk in
Speaker 6: the house and it's meatheads being meatheads, and then you
Speaker 6: had calling be in meathead. But you know, I'm not
Speaker 6: going to mention that because I always get called out
Speaker 6: for like mentioning a minor. But yes, miners can do
Speaker 6: fucked up things too, But I'm not saying that anybody
Speaker 6: did it. This is all in my opinion, But something
Speaker 6: did happen in that house, and uh, they did put
Speaker 6: him out there in early early mornings when Lucky the
Speaker 6: plow driver saw them with the Ford edge out there,
Speaker 6: and they left him. They left him, and there's a
Speaker 6: place in hell for them they did.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and Julie's gonna go ahead and give me
Speaker 1: her version, so mine real quickly is I Although I'm
Speaker 1: the worst math student ever at Dean, I was trying
Speaker 1: to solve for X so X was I have to
Speaker 1: figure out why Brian Albert didn't call nine one one
Speaker 1: when John was injured. And because if this was just
Speaker 1: a simple accident, like if they were hunting, if they
Speaker 1: were fishing, if they were hiking and he fell and
Speaker 1: he hit his head, if there were repelling, if they
Speaker 1: were in any repelling I know it's like people from
Speaker 1: Canton repelling, But if there were any sort of situation
Speaker 1: where John O'Keefe, a fellow officer, were injured, he would
Speaker 1: have had he would have called nine on one, got
Speaker 1: him medical care. Then he would have had to call
Speaker 1: the duty sergeant at BPD, which is a recorded line,
Speaker 1: and he would have made a report. So as he's talking,
Speaker 1: not only is it becoming a part of a verbal
Speaker 1: official record, now the duty sergeant is going to type in,
Speaker 1: Okay O'Keefe was injured, what time was this, where did
Speaker 1: this happen? And he's typing, okay, who was involved? Yes,
Speaker 1: give me the details, give me so he would have
Speaker 1: been typing the whole scenario. So anything when Brian Albert
Speaker 1: called BPD to say O'Keefe is going to the hospital
Speaker 1: and won't be to work tomorrow, there would have been
Speaker 1: a whole report taken that would have become official record.
Speaker 1: So if he would have been injured, this is what
Speaker 1: Brian would have done, even if he said, okay, Higgins
Speaker 1: and O'Keefe had a fight at the house and it
Speaker 1: got out of hand and O'Keefe punched Brian. Brian punched
Speaker 1: O'Keefe back, he fell on his head and he head Okay.
Speaker 1: So that's something that can be explained away, because now
Speaker 1: we're talking about I can mute. I can mute the
Speaker 1: smike real quick. Let me uh tell me okay, So okay,
Speaker 1: Terry's back in place. Now I can unmute her. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, you're back on love. I just had to
Speaker 1: mute because there was all all kinds of noise, all right.
Speaker 1: So so now I have to figure out why I'm
Speaker 1: solving frecks. Why didn't Brian Albert call BPD. The only
Speaker 1: reason he wouldn't have called nine to one one to
Speaker 1: render aid to a fellow officer. And the only reason
Speaker 1: is that there was some sort of a crime committed
Speaker 1: that he didn't think he could explain away, because obviously,
Speaker 1: if O'Keefe was injured in an accident in Brian's house,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to call, he's gonna make a report.
Speaker 1: O keep's gonna go to the hospital. He's gonna wake up,
Speaker 1: he's gonna tell a story that, hey, yeah, we got
Speaker 1: in a fight and I fell and hit my head. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sue who Brian Higgins or press charges
Speaker 1: against Higgins because I lost my footing or we fought
Speaker 1: and I got hurt. That's what happens. When you agree
Speaker 1: to fight someone, someone can get hurt. Okay. So the
Speaker 1: reason I think that the a felony was committed and
Speaker 1: someone whacked John on the back of the head is
Speaker 1: because now if that happened, now O'Keefe is gonna wake up,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna say that whatever Brian tells better be
Speaker 1: one hundred percent accurate to the duty sergeant, or O'Keefe
Speaker 1: is gonna wake up and tell a different story. And
Speaker 1: now you have Brian's lieutenant talking to John's lieutenant. Now
Speaker 1: you have the police union who can't just arbitrarily back
Speaker 1: Brian because John is also a funding member of that
Speaker 1: police union. So the Norfolk DA is going to be
Speaker 1: standing there unless John presses charges. He's not involved, So
Speaker 1: obviously Brian thought something was committed that he felt was criminal,
Speaker 1: which more than likely was somebody striking John on the
Speaker 1: back of the head with an object that precluded him
Speaker 1: from wanting to report it as he would have done
Speaker 1: if they were hunting, fishing or some other exploit like that,
Speaker 1: he would have called in rendered aid to John. He
Speaker 1: didn't because they were drunk, and because someone committed some criminal,
Speaker 1: felonious act that he didn't think he could explain away
Speaker 1: lieutenant to lieutenant and police union representatives in the whole
Speaker 1: nine it could not be smoothed over, which is what
Speaker 1: would have happened if it was just an accident. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't an accident, Beatrice, all right, a bridge version.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's interesting. I've never heard that before.
Speaker 3: I think i've heard that before.
Speaker 6: You got it.
Speaker 2: You see it, see what Peter's comments pointing out Peter Murfey, where.
Speaker 6: Is he that the DPW radio transmission to all plow
Speaker 6: operators at four hundred, they reported a pedestrian struck on
Speaker 6: Fairview Road by a plow and then it was stifled.
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, I have never heard that.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm either, yep, I remember that. Some more fuckery.
Speaker 1: So when do you guys think that efery? So when
Speaker 1: do you guys think that trunk kate trunk kate or
Speaker 1: self fed it? Say? Yo, what is going on anyway?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 6: So great ducker.
Speaker 1: Duckery. Yeah, let's Melanie Little is the greatest content creator
Speaker 1: in this medium. We might as well use duckery. And Okay,
Speaker 1: where when do you guys think that that body was
Speaker 1: made out? Was put out there? Then? Just as a
Speaker 1: digression here.
Speaker 8: I mean, I feel like it would be around that time.
Speaker 8: When did he When did Lucky see the ford edge
Speaker 8: out there?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: If some wasn't it around three thirty thirty?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think yeah, So it would have had to have
Speaker 6: been around that timeframe.
Speaker 1: I would think, so somewhere around three thirty before that
Speaker 1: that report, So someone we gotta go, Peter, Yeah, We're
Speaker 1: gonna have to expound upon that because I'm curious how
Speaker 1: that who would have made who could have would have
Speaker 1: made that report. But let's see, Lucky couldn't do a
Speaker 1: second So was the second past that didn't happen? Sherridy,
Speaker 1: there's so much in this case and Blessing Moon put
Speaker 1: out there. When the ford edge drove John and John
Speaker 1: there and the person that drove it placed John, Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely you would have. You would have pulled his his uh,
Speaker 1: his uh near near dead body out of the passenger
Speaker 1: side of that ford Edge facing the house to block
Speaker 1: the cameras from across the street. That's why I don't
Speaker 1: believe they drug them across the lawn because it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, this would be like a movie. You're gonna
Speaker 1: sit there and drag a dude across the lawn, So that,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of absurd. Thank you, Valhall Law
Speaker 1: my dear, So that is three point thirty to five am.
Speaker 1: Thank you. There's so many details in this case you
Speaker 1: need an Excel spreadsheet back to Beatrice please.
Speaker 2: So okay, so what do I think happened? I know
Speaker 2: what didn't happen, and he did not get hit.
Speaker 3: By the LEXUSSUV, so we'll start there.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I was just say in my opinion,
Speaker 2: I do, based on the evidence and everything that was presented,
Speaker 2: I do feel that he went in the house.
Speaker 3: I feel like there was some shenanigans at the bar.
Speaker 2: There was some you know, tough guy acts, you know whatever,
Speaker 2: dancing around, you know, trying to show each other up,
Speaker 2: and I think they that I do believe Karen's story
Speaker 2: that he she dropped him off, she wasn't sure if
Speaker 2: she was welcome, And I do believe he went in
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody in that house.
Speaker 2: Intentionally intentionally meant to unlive him. I think it was
Speaker 2: more of, you know, let's fight this out, and I
Speaker 2: think things went wrong, and I think and I also
Speaker 2: want to point out one thing that always gets missed
Speaker 2: when we talk about John and the lawn and everything else,
Speaker 2: is that if we listened to Jen McCabe's recording, she
Speaker 2: said that he was face down. We're always talking about
Speaker 2: being him faced up and they turned him. So that's
Speaker 2: just a point that I that I feel like he
Speaker 2: was put face down, but then when they flipped him over,
Speaker 2: the cell phone was underneath him, which is doesn't even
Speaker 2: make sense. But anyways, I just know that he was
Speaker 2: not hip based on ARCA, based on the know the
Speaker 2: three thy seventy four pages of exculpatory information that they received.
Speaker 3: He just wasn't hit by the car.
Speaker 2: So that's all I need to know, and to stand
Speaker 2: behind Karen and you know, believe in our innocence, and
Speaker 2: you know, again we all want justice for John, but
Speaker 2: it's not through Karen Reid. I mean it will be
Speaker 2: eventually by you know, everything that she's going to bring
Speaker 2: to light, but she didn't do this to him. And
Speaker 2: I just think the proper people need to be held accountable.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you Jim for becoming a member. And as
Speaker 1: there's so many great comments here, literally you could put
Speaker 1: every single comment on the screen because that's how good
Speaker 1: you guys are. Blessing Moon, thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: As Julie said, or earlier it might have been Sherry d.
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Speaker 1: back at it now. We're going to ST's uh comment.
Speaker 1: Great job, Beatrice, man, you broke it down like the
Speaker 1: bright homie that you is. They didn't teach me that
Speaker 1: a dean. By the way, Terry, that that's sort of
Speaker 1: dialogue anyway, what's your what's your topic question or hypothesis?
Speaker 6: Alright, it is just going to come off the top
Speaker 6: of my head. Send into her.
Speaker 1: Homework, Terry, Terry ten demerits for Gryffindor right now, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: We love you, asked you know that great with all
Speaker 1: the with all the work you're doing, we love you.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 6: It's not dreams about being a dean. It's like being
Speaker 6: back in school and then having to do school again.
Speaker 6: I have nightmares. I have to graduate. I just need
Speaker 6: to graduate.
Speaker 1: You have graduated, and you, like I tell you on Twitter,
Speaker 1: you've inspired everybody that's on this panel, going and setting
Speaker 1: up and doing solo solos, standouts and dancing. Uh dude,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to breaking bread with you, homie.
Speaker 6: I tell my story instead of doing my homework about
Speaker 6: last night.
Speaker 1: Yes you can, yes you can.
Speaker 5: Cool?
Speaker 6: Cool, There we go, there we go. You get cupcakes. Teacher.
Speaker 6: Thank you So, so last night I went to Whitney
Speaker 6: Cummings the comedian. Have you heard of her?
Speaker 1: Yes, she's on Joe Rogan's just want to Yes, she's amazing.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So I saw the Wilburg here in Boston and
Speaker 6: I was wearing my Free care and Read cap and
Speaker 6: I was fortunate to have front row tickets. And at
Speaker 6: the very end, she was like doing her goodbyes to everybody,
Speaker 6: and she saw my cap and she goes, yeah, free
Speaker 6: Cairen Read, and the whole venue just lit up and
Speaker 6: was just like yeah, yeah. I was like, she knows
Speaker 6: free Karen Read and she support what And I was like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, I hope someone caught that. But then
Speaker 6: like I just I busted out to her and was
Speaker 6: just like, can you please say something to Karen, Like
Speaker 6: can a videotape you? And she she was like yeah,
Speaker 6: And so I got a videotape of her shouting out
Speaker 6: free Karen Read, badass, and it was just the moment
Speaker 6: was just amazing.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I was like, because there there's was word of
Speaker 6: people being on on that were doing cameos, like they
Speaker 6: were paying certain celebrities to say stuff about how awful
Speaker 6: we were to the family. And the witnesses and such.
Speaker 6: So it was nice to just hear from somebody that
Speaker 6: has a platform, such as a comedian that knows what's
Speaker 6: going on and and just talking about it is talking
Speaker 6: about supports Karen. So it was awesome. That's my story.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just follow with one of my own that
Speaker 1: Beatrice has heard. I'm lead. So I've been doing a
Speaker 1: lot of I work at one base, one spaceport base.
Speaker 1: I go to another where the gym is and the
Speaker 1: swimming and all that neat stuff. So I go over
Speaker 1: there to swim and I'm on the phone with our
Speaker 1: friend John Como, who's friends with everybody on this panel.
Speaker 1: And then I've got my earbuds on so nobody can
Speaker 1: hear what we're talking about. And I get changed and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, man, I gotta grab my water out
Speaker 1: in the car. So I go out there and this
Speaker 1: guy walks by me and gentleman, probably like a decade
Speaker 1: older than me, and he goes, he goes, yeah, he goes,
Speaker 1: you tell you tell those Karen Reid folks there that
Speaker 1: in Colorado we support okay, And I was like rock
Speaker 1: one brother, and he was he was saying stuff and
Speaker 1: John John was going crazy and telling me to tell
Speaker 1: him stuff, and I was like, hey, brother, because I
Speaker 1: know he probably swims there all the time like me.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'll see you and we'll have
Speaker 1: a dialogue. And he's from Massachusetts, he's from Boston, so
Speaker 1: he just him hearing a little bit of dialogue where
Speaker 1: I did not mention her name. He knew I was
Speaker 1: talking about Karen Reid. So you guys are everywhere. You
Speaker 1: guys are everywhere. Okay, all right, Beatriz, if you would
Speaker 1: like to if there's any reaction, and if not, I'll
Speaker 1: give my topic.
Speaker 10: No go ahead, Okay, okay, So this is gonna go
Speaker 10: to you, and then it's gonna go to Terry Boozy
Speaker 10: Beauty and st Okay.
Speaker 1: If we are we're at thirty four Fairview. It is
Speaker 1: the morning of the twenty ninth of January two thousand
Speaker 1: two and twenty two, and we we don't see a
Speaker 1: cracktail light. So now when she leaves the house at
Speaker 1: five something in the morning to go look for him,
Speaker 1: she doesn't hit John's vehicle with her car, doesn't crack
Speaker 1: the tail light, which doesn't give the quarterback of the team,
Speaker 1: Jen McCabe, that narrative to feed to Hance, the spoon
Speaker 1: feed to Bukake, who thinks that it's a domestic because
Speaker 1: stupid Brian Albert brings the cocktail glass from the waterfall
Speaker 1: out there and goes, ah, this will do right here
Speaker 1: and and takes the shoe off and all that like
Speaker 1: a friggin' moron. So my question to you, firstly, Beatrice,
Speaker 1: is what would have happened in this case had she
Speaker 1: not cracked the tail light and given them that storyline
Speaker 1: that became the narrative that the foe Justice warriors on
Speaker 1: the other side or you are using as an excuse
Speaker 1: for how he was found nearly unlived, unluck.
Speaker 3: I don't think she would have been the fall person.
Speaker 1: Do you think it turns? Right there? That's the pivot point.
Speaker 2: I mean, you have the now I'm gonna forget names,
Speaker 2: but those people that were in that truck, the Julie Nagles,
Speaker 2: Nigles brother who was supposed to be coming to pick
Speaker 2: her up, I mean I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 2: she would have been the fall person for this in
Speaker 2: my opinion.
Speaker 1: Wow, Terry Robbins.
Speaker 5: I don't even have anything to say about that.
Speaker 7: I can't even wrap my head around that scenario because
Speaker 7: we've heard all of the other things before, so I'm
Speaker 7: not good at.
Speaker 5: Thinking about something like that. Well, I can't answer that one.
Speaker 1: See, this is why I came. I wanted to see
Speaker 1: what would happen if we just shifted the script. They
Speaker 1: don't have the tail light to lean on, so go ahead, Beatrice.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not didn't mean to call on Terry.
Speaker 1: This is your game, so.
Speaker 3: No, wait, isn't it, boot It is.
Speaker 1: But I didn't want to. I didn't want to pass
Speaker 1: it because you're the moderator.
Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: Well, what the law said is basically as is. Basically
Speaker 6: what they would do is what I'm thinking. They were
Speaker 6: just blame it unlucky the plow dry. They even did
Speaker 6: it with the DPW when they called it in, like
Speaker 6: that's how they were going to do it. They were
Speaker 6: going to call that in and say that somebody was
Speaker 6: hit by a plow and and then that's how they
Speaker 6: would say that he ended up there and then lucky
Speaker 6: Lucky would take and god damn, I don't even want
Speaker 6: to think about that though, because who yep, Nope, sorry,
Speaker 6: I don't even want to things. But yeah, he would
Speaker 6: he would be locked up right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm valhall in law, our retired lawyer. She says
Speaker 1: the same thing that she thinks that they would have
Speaker 1: they would have put it on that they Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: pretty close to We're pretty close to seven thousand. I
Speaker 1: think we're at just under sixty six hundred, so we
Speaker 1: might who knows, we might get close tonight, you.
Speaker 5: Know, can I can I vote because I said I didn't.
Speaker 5: But I think that the original so I thought you
Speaker 5: were switching things around.
Speaker 7: But I agree with Beatrice, but I but what I
Speaker 7: think is is that the plan all along was to
Speaker 7: blame Lucky.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I don't think that Karen was quite in their sites
Speaker 7: at that point. I think the plan was to blame
Speaker 7: Lucky until the morning when Karen called Jen, and I
Speaker 7: think that's when the plan switched. So, you know, I
Speaker 7: don't know about the tailight and all that stuff, but
Speaker 7: I mean I do.
Speaker 5: Know about the tail like, but you are a hypothesis there.
Speaker 7: But I think that the original plan was to blame
Speaker 7: Lucky and they figured he'd take a plea deal and
Speaker 7: maybe get you know, a couple of years or six
Speaker 7: months or whatever. Are they cover it over somehow and
Speaker 7: say it was an accident in his job. And I
Speaker 7: think that was I think that was the original plan.
Speaker 1: Would anybody like to react to what Kevin c is
Speaker 1: saying on screen here?
Speaker 3: I don't think anything surprises us, does it.
Speaker 6: Yeah? Also, hearing that Brian Albert was meeting with the
Speaker 6: animal control officer, he is he just met with them
Speaker 6: again yesterday. Why you live in Norwood, you're retired. Things
Speaker 6: that make you go whoop hmm. If you didn't love it,
Speaker 6: why would you be meaning with them? Unless like unless
Speaker 6: was it a male or female? He was meaning with female?
Speaker 5: Female?
Speaker 6: Terry knows.
Speaker 5: If you know, you know, you know.
Speaker 1: Melanie Little just made it here and I just want
Speaker 1: to say, l I t isn't and I love I
Speaker 1: love that song. If you steal My Sunshine, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys remember that one. It's an old
Speaker 1: school one. If you steal My Sunshine by the brother
Speaker 1: and sister. Sorry, all right, everything you know relates back
Speaker 1: to music with me. So yeah, it's very interesting. I
Speaker 1: don't know what evidence they would have had to pin
Speaker 1: it on Lucky uh they uh is potentially it's there.
Speaker 1: First of all, it wouldn't have even been. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if they could have pinned manslaughter on him,
Speaker 1: you know, but they would have had to try then
Speaker 1: get DNA on the plow or something absolutely absurd. Think
Speaker 1: I think Jennifer McCabe her cracking the tail light, and
Speaker 1: Jennifer McCabe the quarterback, or Jen maccobb as I like
Speaker 1: to call her. I think she bailed them out because
Speaker 1: they were a crime without a perpetrator and because they
Speaker 1: refused to knock on Brian's door, which ended the investigation
Speaker 1: two minutes after the investigation began. They were a crime
Speaker 1: without a perpetrator or even a suspect, and Jennifer bailed
Speaker 1: them out. And they probably love her and are indebted
Speaker 1: to her, which is why bacon butt Meatball takes her
Speaker 1: text in the middle of the night. We love Melanie
Speaker 1: as well, Nikki, we really do. She's incredible. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I digressed. So I think that's the last roundtable topic, Beatrice.
Speaker 1: It can be just an absolute pillow fi for all now.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're lucky as he got to go,
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I don't. I don't no person left
Speaker 2: behind here.
Speaker 3: She didn't get to answer. I was paying attention we're lucky, like.
Speaker 6: He would lose his ship if he lose his if
Speaker 6: he like hit an animal. Remember that part when he
Speaker 6: was on the stand and he was like, God forbid
Speaker 6: if I hit an animal. He was like, so that's
Speaker 6: why I like, Oh, okay, sorry, go ahead, boozy. Love
Speaker 6: you Lucky?
Speaker 1: Where are you Lucky?
Speaker 6: I always say Lucky.
Speaker 8: He's a peach, you know from people that I've talked
Speaker 8: to from Canton that know him, She's just a nice,
Speaker 8: genuine guy. You can tell that when he's on the stand.
Speaker 8: He's just a nice, honest, genuine person. He was there
Speaker 8: to be a good witness, like you're supposed.
Speaker 6: To do when you do court.
Speaker 8: You're not supposed to have all these different shenanigans going on.
Speaker 8: You're there to tell the truth.
Speaker 6: And that's it. You know, none of this whatat what?
Speaker 8: But you know, I love this question because there there
Speaker 8: are a few reasons why I think they shifted from Lucky. Obviously,
Speaker 8: he's he's a Canton I you know, he's a Canton homie,
Speaker 8: and he's not necessarily close to.
Speaker 6: Any of them.
Speaker 8: But he does have a little bit of protection because
Speaker 8: his last name is Lafren. Who else is a law
Speaker 8: fren my claw friend can select board. So my opinion
Speaker 8: is kind of like what Alan Jackson has said over
Speaker 8: and over and in court is pennant on the girl.
Speaker 8: Why do you want to pennant on the girl because
Speaker 8: it's easy. So I think they would have found a
Speaker 8: way any which way to put it on her because
Speaker 8: they were not going to put it on Lucky because
Speaker 8: once they found out it was Lucky that it was
Speaker 8: a plow driver. Can't do it, can't do it, he
Speaker 8: has protection. Karen was the outlier, so wasn't John. I
Speaker 8: think the real would have found some way.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry, man, that's okay. I just want to
Speaker 1: because val Halle Laws here, she is the official attorney
Speaker 1: of calling All beings, and she says that the first
Speaker 1: thing she says is they didn't need evidence. They could
Speaker 1: have strong armed Lucky to plea, so they would have.
Speaker 1: What she's saying is they would have used the same
Speaker 1: ploy that they tried on Karen Reid and she didn't
Speaker 1: fall for they would have been able been successful with Lucky.
Speaker 1: And then down here hero Dennis is saying that Lucky's
Speaker 1: a hero, and I agree with you, Dennis. And then
Speaker 1: valhall Law is saying I disagree about Jen. She messed up.
Speaker 1: She messed it all up much easier to railroad Lucky.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know what, from from a point of view,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent you're right. But one when something is
Speaker 1: you know, you don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
Speaker 1: Someone gives you a horse, I go, you know what,
Speaker 1: I love horses. I'm gonna take a horse. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna look and check his teeth. And in this case, uh,
Speaker 1: the cracktail light and Karen's acknowledgment thereof provided what Jen needed,
Speaker 1: and she would have had to extrapolate uh and not
Speaker 1: maybe perhaps not even thought of Lucky as a culprit,
Speaker 1: whereas the police would have thought of Lucky the fact
Speaker 1: that they were plowing. I mean, obviously she was up
Speaker 1: all night, so her brain processes were not would not
Speaker 1: be working at pee performance when you don't have any
Speaker 1: sleep and you've been you were drinking. Then you're awake,
Speaker 1: Now you know that someone was just killed. Now you're
Speaker 1: you're walking around your house, you know you're you and
Speaker 1: then the next day you're expected to concoct a theory.
Speaker 1: And more than likely this was a can't. Unfortunately, and sadly,
Speaker 1: Karen gave her that out with the cracktail light. Uh
Speaker 1: and uh, without that, they would probably somebody else would
Speaker 1: have had to have fingered lucky, it would have had
Speaker 1: to have been law enforcement. So anyway, back.
Speaker 6: To bed, I do I think Jen messed up though
Speaker 6: too by going that way, because she does she seems
Speaker 6: to have the personality where she wants to take control.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, so since she did, since this was her
Speaker 6: her go to and what she thought would work. Now
Speaker 6: she's like strong about it and making sure that it
Speaker 6: goes right and she's taken charge. She's doing the pow wows,
Speaker 6: she's making the phone calls, she's making sure everyone's going
Speaker 6: on track. She's the one that's reaching out to Aiden's
Speaker 6: ex girlfriends or fling to make sure that she's on
Speaker 6: board to get him into jail. And like she's just
Speaker 6: all hands on deck with everything because she's the one
Speaker 6: that made that decision of let's blame it on Karen.
Speaker 6: But did you think that I'm not going to use
Speaker 6: a phrase that I heard recently, but.
Speaker 1: Jen maccob Sorry, well no, she couldn't.
Speaker 6: Now smart Karen, Sorry you could all right?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, no, she couldn't. She clearly couldn't.
Speaker 6: Nope, he messed with the wrong be.
Speaker 1: All right. Was that Chris Albert that said tell him
Speaker 1: he never went in the house.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, Matt McCain.
Speaker 3: It was Matak.
Speaker 6: He said that to Chris in the group text. In
Speaker 6: the group text, yeah.
Speaker 3: Tell him the guy I never went in the house.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, tell me phoebe welcome.
Speaker 6: There's a guy passed out, a guy guy, but yeah,
Speaker 6: he's your best friend.
Speaker 11: Like, oh, there's a man on the Can I do
Speaker 11: my Jim McCabe kill that man on the lawn? At
Speaker 11: thirty five they have you, uh, the Albert's home. It's like, oh,
Speaker 11: the world famous Alberts. They're known in Mumbai. They're just
Speaker 11: so incredible. What a family.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, this amand.
Speaker 6: Friend officer John O'Keefe. He is on the front lawn
Speaker 6: of my brother in law's house, who's also a police officer.
Speaker 6: You need to get all units down here right now.
Speaker 6: He is a police officer.
Speaker 1: My friend who I love.
Speaker 4: With all my heart, with all my heart, with all
Speaker 4: my hat.
Speaker 12: You have a heart, honestly, like I if I only
Speaker 12: had a brain, Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, I didn't think we're gonna have any wizard
Speaker 1: of mine. This is awesome man.
Speaker 6: You guys, all.
Speaker 1: Right, if you have a question in the chat, please
Speaker 1: put it in all caps and we will get this esteemed.
Speaker 1: And when I say esteemed, I want you to think broccoli.
Speaker 1: We'll get this esteem panel to answer her. Uh, whatever
Speaker 1: you have here, I'll look at this. Aspop says, st
Speaker 1: is miss universe. I don't think you any argument. Xoxo.
Speaker 1: We'll do our Melanie little impression here when he reads
Speaker 1: a David Ynetti letter. Xoxo.
Speaker 8: Mike Marcy, can I just say that clip of st
Speaker 8: outside of the office in Canton and when.
Speaker 6: She she screamed, duck you. Oh it just made my soul.
Speaker 6: I had had a day and we're in front of
Speaker 6: his office and she was in front of us. Yeah,
Speaker 6: the words, the words I would have girl, I get
Speaker 6: it been there.
Speaker 1: Humfort, Oh my god. Oh this okay, we have some
Speaker 1: questions here, all right. This one is from Rachel. Uh
Speaker 1: so let's take this one around. I was starting.
Speaker 3: Question for who what, So we're gonna go around. So
Speaker 3: which mcalburt is the most embarrassing I know?
Speaker 2: Julie When she said Bukaki on the stand, that was awesome.
Speaker 3: That was awesome. Yeah, all right, Terry, you're next. What
Speaker 3: do you think?
Speaker 7: Probably Jen McCabe when she was in shock and horror.
Speaker 8: One.
Speaker 6: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with uh Jill Daniels and the Felmouths shipwrecked,
Speaker 8: the throwing the pizza on lawns, the taking aiden cell
Speaker 8: phone of it all.
Speaker 6: Bill Daniels, all right, it's easy for me. It's just
Speaker 6: Chris Albert. I mean yeah, especially since my own father
Speaker 6: was a selectman and a school committee member, like he
Speaker 6: would never act the way that Chris does, never and
Speaker 6: raising his boys to be that way too, Like you're
Speaker 6: raising your kids to flip off people and talk to
Speaker 6: other adults that way. No wonder they got themselves in
Speaker 6: this ship this God damn it, No wonder they got
Speaker 6: themselves in this trouble. Like, look who you've raised. It's
Speaker 6: it's what you do with yourself too. So even though
Speaker 6: he says he was not in the house, I questioned that.
Speaker 6: I questioned that every day. Yeah, he also had a dui,
Speaker 6: I mean, and and hit a man and took his life,
Speaker 6: and that's very unfortunate. But has he I don't know,
Speaker 6: started for a foundation for for any causes to make
Speaker 6: up for it. Has he I don't know, paid his
Speaker 6: respects to the family that he took the life from.
Speaker 6: If if he can show me those things, like great,
Speaker 6: more power to you. But if you have just like
Speaker 6: continued on your life and not made amends anyway or
Speaker 6: started any type of like just foundation or something in
Speaker 6: that man's honor because you did take his life. So yeah,
Speaker 6: he's an embarrassment, Like do better be better take yourself
Speaker 6: off as a selectman and start talking.
Speaker 3: No shame in his game?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 3: All right, what about you?
Speaker 1: D I mean for me, like, I mean, what the duck?
Speaker 1: What the duck? Let me get this. I got this
Speaker 1: from Suzanne Cleveland via a Richie and it says, if
Speaker 1: you know you know, like so me and I think
Speaker 1: Beatrice and I have matching ducks, So so yeah, for me,
Speaker 1: My biggest question about Chris Albert is whether or not
Speaker 1: he uses zero zero flower in his pizza concoction there,
Speaker 1: So I would have greater respect for him if he
Speaker 1: used zero zero flower, but I suspect he's probably using
Speaker 1: like all purpose flower, so that would be My biggest
Speaker 1: question is is what type of flower and what's the
Speaker 1: quality of the pizza there at at dn Pizza. Can
Speaker 1: anybody is that what all of you are thinking? All
Speaker 1: of you are thinking the same thing, right, Well, didn't.
Speaker 6: He did he recently have inspection? Anyways?
Speaker 3: He probably did.
Speaker 1: He brought he brought out the dollar bills. Is like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay off the inspector, hand them one hundred
Speaker 1: in that handshake when he comes to the door.
Speaker 8: No, okay, I know this chat is safe. No one
Speaker 8: in this chat is gonna order from DNI Pizza. I
Speaker 8: recognize that. But for anyone, anyone that ever hears this,
Speaker 8: they don't wear gloves when they're making the pizza people
Speaker 8: when they're making the salads. That's the reason why they
Speaker 8: got in trouble between cleaning problems, molding their cheese.
Speaker 6: And not wearing gloves. It's all. This is all public record,
Speaker 6: by the way, for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 1: Only you guys are making the show man. You guys
Speaker 1: are just you guys have absolutely killed the show. From
Speaker 1: Terry SD Boozy and of course my homegirl up there
Speaker 1: at the top Pietris So no all kidding aside my
Speaker 1: most embarrassing Mcalbert. It ether vacillates between Colin trying to
Speaker 1: pretend like he went to some exclusive prep school with
Speaker 1: that outfit that you never would see on this kid
Speaker 1: in his life, when he looks like he's some sort
Speaker 1: of a gangster rap wannabe. And then the other one
Speaker 1: would be Sam Nagel, who has made himself virtually undateable
Speaker 1: in three counties by going up and physically touching Meredith
Speaker 1: with a group of people behind him, something that he
Speaker 1: in this lifetime he never would have done if he
Speaker 1: were alone with Turtle Boy and there were no cameras.
Speaker 1: So but I guess I'll give the edge. I'll give
Speaker 1: it to Sam Nagel. The coward is the most embarrassing. Mccalbert.
Speaker 1: We also have this one right here. I've got this one,
Speaker 1: this question right here, starting with Beatrice. Please.
Speaker 2: I think because between the Commonwealth and you know, the
Speaker 2: arrogance of this DA's office, I think there will be
Speaker 2: but hoping and praying that there isn't because the FBI
Speaker 2: saves everything.
Speaker 1: Miss Terry Robinson.
Speaker 7: I think there will be another trial, but I'm hoping
Speaker 7: that the Supreme Court decision comes out and at least
Speaker 7: throws out the two charges. I don't I haven't been
Speaker 7: falling everything, But I don't think that's been ruled on yet,
Speaker 7: so correct, correct, So you know, I think Judge Beverly's
Speaker 7: pushing for that January.
Speaker 5: Date and I don't. I don't well, I don't.
Speaker 7: Understand her to start off with, but I don't understand
Speaker 7: how with both sides are requesting a postponement until April,
Speaker 7: that she could possibly insist that they do it in January.
Speaker 7: So I think there will be another trial, but I'm
Speaker 7: hoping not.
Speaker 6: Boosie, I mean I was.
Speaker 8: I was one from the get go saying that they
Speaker 8: will have a second trial, but they'll push it out.
Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised because technically it's unconstitutional, especially if
Speaker 8: both sides want to do it, they're going to push
Speaker 8: it out. I wouldn't be surprised if they push it
Speaker 8: out again, and we see potentially probably another summer trial,
Speaker 8: and again, more time just means it's more time for
Speaker 8: the defense, and time is on the defensive side, not
Speaker 8: the prosecutions to the rolling Stones.
Speaker 1: That's a great song time his own my side, Yes,
Speaker 1: it is go ahead. Is there gonna be another trial?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that they're going to try to but
Speaker 6: I mean hopefully that. Yeah, the Feds come in because
Speaker 6: if it is pushed to April, that gives them more
Speaker 6: time to do what they need to be doing, collecting
Speaker 6: more evidence, getting more I mean, especially with the civil
Speaker 6: trial going on. With the civil doesn't that mean that
Speaker 6: the the Okay family they need to start giving testimony
Speaker 6: in order to depositions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to get pushed back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the depositions will go on. Yeah, the civil will
Speaker 6: be going on, and then they can pull from that,
Speaker 6: can't they. Yeah, so that we have on our side too.
Speaker 6: And then also I believe the FBI could probably pull
Speaker 6: from that as well if it's if it's records, so great,
Speaker 6: depot them all more information to be able to so.
Speaker 6: So yes, I mean the April date being pushed would
Speaker 6: definitely help with that. And hopefully by the time April
Speaker 6: comes along or end of March, that it can be
Speaker 6: interrupted so that doesn't need to and then Karen can
Speaker 6: start bringing back in money for herself, I mean five million.
Speaker 6: She's in debt and now she's having to pay for
Speaker 6: the second trial. But with all this depos happening, thank
Speaker 6: you for suing her in civil court. It's working in
Speaker 6: her favor. Yeah, So we'll just have more evidence with
Speaker 6: the time being pushed, so I do believe that they
Speaker 6: will try to. Hopefully we'll hear back from the Esse
Speaker 6: Supreme Court justice about those two charges being drops because
Speaker 6: they were she was acquitted by them. But we had
Speaker 6: a four person who who knows. I believe he was corrupt,
Speaker 6: being a mister bossy pants in there. So yeah, more time,
Speaker 6: more information.
Speaker 1: And we have more questions in the chap. I think
Speaker 1: it's about time to wrap it up. So I think
Speaker 1: we ought of this one right here from Ken who's
Speaker 1: all the way from Nottingham. I think we can all
Speaker 1: agree that, yeah, someone said walking my dog and saw
Speaker 1: John Gwyn do you think they would have found ring?
Speaker 1: And yeah. The the problem is that they didn't ask
Speaker 1: the police. The investigating officers did not ask for ring
Speaker 1: camera video. And I guess what whomever spoke with Tom Kelleher,
Speaker 1: the lieutenant, the then lieutenant across the street and now
Speaker 1: deputy chief, said oh, I didn't have any he throing
Speaker 1: three ring camera videos, three ring cameras on his house,
Speaker 1: and then Turtle Boy spoke with the adjacent neighbors and
Speaker 1: everybody said, I don't have anything. And that's probably because
Speaker 1: they thought Brian Albert would come and like slip their
Speaker 1: throat in the middle of their sleep. So I have
Speaker 1: no idea, but it's it's just more Again. A screenwriter,
Speaker 1: you know, would be like, Noah, there's just no way,
Speaker 1: there's no way that, but this is what happened. So
Speaker 1: I think we should wrap up Beatrice with Dean. Reflections
Speaker 1: are final reflections about Dean. And I'm gonna apologize to
Speaker 1: you guys, but I don't want to keep these wonderful
Speaker 1: ladies and our wonderful hosts more than two hours, otherwise
Speaker 1: Beatrice won't want to come on anymore. So I would
Speaker 1: love to get to everything. Thank you Reality check. Yes,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, she's saying, are you proud of us kids?
Speaker 7: Absolutely, it's been a wonderful program, and I'm proud that
Speaker 7: you're well Deane alums.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So go ahead, Beatrice, take it away, my friend, all right.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna throw it over to Terry, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, Reflections final reflections.
Speaker 7: I well, I guess from what you told me before,
Speaker 7: I'm doing mine as a a favorite memory, Uh, you know,
Speaker 7: the time on the board. If I think of one
Speaker 7: thing that goes through my favorite time every single year
Speaker 7: was commencement. It was the absolute it still is the
Speaker 7: absolute best day that I can remember, to see the
Speaker 7: bag pipes and processing across the street and down off
Speaker 7: the way, and the looks, the proud looks on the families,
Speaker 7: and how happy the students are, and a little secret
Speaker 7: I probably shouldn't be telling you, but the funny little
Speaker 7: thing is as trustees, we sit on the on the
Speaker 7: podium there and everyone is in front of us and
Speaker 7: the audience and the students process up and get their diplomas.
Speaker 7: And after the first year, I said to one of
Speaker 7: my fellow trustees, did you see the shoes those girls
Speaker 7: were wearing? And after that it became a thing like
Speaker 7: to look at it. And then it was just the
Speaker 7: men and the women's shoes. You know, they came in
Speaker 7: just such a variety of shoes, and it just became
Speaker 7: the thing that we looked at. But you know, and
Speaker 7: Jim Bourger Goide's sawing at the end of I'm sure
Speaker 7: ladies knew Jim Bourger Guide through the theater program, and
Speaker 7: he had the the anthem, the.
Speaker 5: Dean anthem that he'd always sing at the end.
Speaker 7: So it was just always the best day of the year,
Speaker 7: and I'll always have fond memories of that.
Speaker 3: Wonderful all right boozy.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: I feel like when we go to college, that's usually
Speaker 8: a time of funding ourselves, right, And I feel like
Speaker 8: going from a one eighty to a very large graduating
Speaker 8: class something very small, I definitely learned way more about
Speaker 8: myself than I ever feel like I ever would have
Speaker 8: and kind of like what SD touched upon, you know,
Speaker 8: me going to a place like UMass Amherst when there's
Speaker 8: fifty to one hundred students in a classroom, I would
Speaker 8: have gotten lost and I would have been paying all
Speaker 8: this money for an education that I would have done
Speaker 8: nothing with. So I'm very grateful so that even though
Speaker 8: it was small, that I did get the deserving attention
Speaker 8: that I needed, even with you know, you know, thirty
Speaker 8: to forty other bodies in the classroom.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 6: It was an interesting time in my life. It was
Speaker 6: also a.
Speaker 8: Very traumatic time of my life, and not because of
Speaker 8: deep but because I was going on in my life.
Speaker 6: But I learned some.
Speaker 8: Very valuable lessons and some really amazing people from all
Speaker 8: walks of life. I feel like Dean's not really you know,
Speaker 8: spoken about too much. It's kind of you know, off
Speaker 8: the beaten path in a random town in Massachusetts. It's
Speaker 8: not in Boston, and it's not in Rhode Island. You know,
Speaker 8: it's not Providence, so it's kind of like it's.
Speaker 6: In the middle. And the people that go there are
Speaker 6: quite eclectic.
Speaker 8: And if there's anyone thinking or has kids that are
Speaker 8: eventually going to think we're going to college, you know,
Speaker 8: and you want them to go somewhere there, you feel
Speaker 8: like they got to be safe where they're going to
Speaker 8: be looked upon and also really cared about.
Speaker 6: You know, I would highly recommend Dean just because it
Speaker 6: is a small community. Yeah. Yes, the year up next
Speaker 6: And that's my word for Dean is that my reflection
Speaker 6: is community, because you can you can be on your
Speaker 6: own and wandering and not knowing where you fit in
Speaker 6: and not knowing if people will accept you for you.
Speaker 6: But at Dean it was it was there through the
Speaker 6: compassion and empathy that I noticed. But because it wasn't
Speaker 6: a parent right away, I mean, you're so caught up
Speaker 6: in your studies and stuff. But when I was at
Speaker 6: my lowest, they were there to lift me up. And
Speaker 6: I'm seeing that now. This is my reflection of at Dean.
Speaker 6: I'm seeing it now in this movement. Some people are
Speaker 6: at their lowest if they're having a hard day just
Speaker 6: in their own personal lives. This community is there to
Speaker 6: listen and to be there for you. I mean, there
Speaker 6: was a supporter Renee who Terry, you said you thought
Speaker 6: it was Renee. She was having a difficulticult time with
Speaker 6: family issues, and in these supporters, Karen Ree's supporters showed
Speaker 6: up for her. They went to a court hearing for her,
Speaker 6: and I don't want to get too personal about it,
Speaker 6: but they went there to show their support. Because this
Speaker 6: is this is the community now of people that are
Speaker 6: there for you, not just at the courthouse, but there
Speaker 6: for you in your own life if needed. And that
Speaker 6: is just something to cherish. You don't see that every day.
Speaker 6: You don't see that when you're going to do your
Speaker 6: nine to five job. Those are just your coworkers and
Speaker 6: you'll go out and have a beer with them and
Speaker 6: then that's it. But this is more. This is more
Speaker 6: than that, and it's a beautiful thing and I wish
Speaker 6: everybody would be able to experience it, because just like
Speaker 6: going into Dean, you don't know what to expect. You
Speaker 6: don't know if you'll be accepted. You come into the
Speaker 6: Karen Reid movement, you don't know if you'll be accepted,
Speaker 6: You don't know what to expect. But guess what, no
Speaker 6: matter what you've done in your life and your past,
Speaker 6: we're not going to judge you on that. If you're
Speaker 6: showing your heart and you're leading with your heart, and
Speaker 6: you're a kind person, and you just you have seen
Speaker 6: what Karen Reid is going through. You're going to be accepted,
Speaker 6: You're going to be loved, You're going to be hugged.
Speaker 6: And I'm going to cry, but this is the truth,
Speaker 6: and it's just it's amazing when you find a community
Speaker 6: like this, and it should be charged and always just
Speaker 6: bring it on back when there's noise, when there's ugly,
Speaker 6: bring it on back to what is really important.
Speaker 1: I love you all, Thank you so much. I I
Speaker 1: man just so delighted to have become friends with you
Speaker 1: and you just inspire me all the time. And you're
Speaker 1: probably sick of hearing that by now, but uh, there
Speaker 1: is the if you want to get in touch with
Speaker 1: Dean College. Thank you Julie and all our chat moderators,
Speaker 1: but thank you Julie. She always knows Julie. We say
Speaker 1: that everything she's she's so much smarter than I am.
Speaker 6: They have night classes for adults and online.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, I know it's and we got to get
Speaker 1: to I'm gonna get to gifts and all that. But
Speaker 1: I wanted I want to get this done and get
Speaker 1: you guys out of here. So my reflections, I can
Speaker 1: remember pulling up back then you could drive right up
Speaker 1: to the front of Dean Hall to get dropped off,
Speaker 1: and my father pulled up around that driveway and dropped
Speaker 1: me off. And I remember hearing money for Nothing from
Speaker 1: dire straits pumping because people have their speakers pumping out
Speaker 1: the out onto the front lawn of Dean Hall, and
Speaker 1: Terry looks like that's that's resonating with her. So I
Speaker 1: remember hearing play Deep from Outfield, which was a very
Speaker 1: popular song, and I encouraged my two fellow alums here
Speaker 1: that are just below me to look up those songs.
Speaker 1: Play the outfield, Josie's on a vacation, farrowh Wait come
Speaker 1: around and talking over So I don't know if you
Speaker 1: remember so many things that I want, so that song
Speaker 1: and Money for Nothing was playing there, mister Williams apparently
Speaker 1: is here from Dean College and says that the fifth
Speaker 1: floor is now a weight room because Leanne is out
Speaker 1: there asking because she got really creeped out when her
Speaker 1: and one of the school resource officers went up to
Speaker 1: the fifth floor, and she said, I felt like it
Speaker 1: was haunted. I got really creeped out. So yeah, outfield, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: So so though I remember that, I remember just being like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, first of all, my name at Dean College
Speaker 1: was not DJ. That was an Air Force nickname. My
Speaker 1: middle name is the letter J, and my name tag
Speaker 1: would say DJ. You know San Marco, So I was Dean.
Speaker 1: I was Dave at first, and then my nickname in
Speaker 1: football was Kazoo. And I literally remember walking from Adams
Speaker 1: Hall back down to the main campus and having a
Speaker 1: couple of girls walk by, and they walked by, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm not really paying attention, I'm looking ahead,
Speaker 1: and they go, hey, Kazoo, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: I'm a third string scrub on the football team, like
Speaker 1: special teams player, not like you know, starter or star, right,
Speaker 1: But they knew who I was, and so I remember that.
Speaker 1: I remember Hurricane Gloria happened, and I left. We were
Speaker 1: all supposed to be in the gym. If you didn't
Speaker 1: have your parents didn't come get you, and you didn't
Speaker 1: have a car, you went to the gym. They brought
Speaker 1: basically box lunches or bag lunches, and you rode out
Speaker 1: the storm in the basketball gym. Well, I decided that
Speaker 1: I was not comfortable in the basketball gym, so I
Speaker 1: stole my way into Dean Hall again somehow, and went
Speaker 1: back to my room and made a bed in the
Speaker 1: closet because I thought that would be safer. I just
Speaker 1: emptied the stuff out of the closet, put blankets and
Speaker 1: pillows in there, and I wrote out the storm in
Speaker 1: my own closet. I remember just that I would walk
Speaker 1: across campus and go good night, Kelly, and thank you
Speaker 1: so much for modding tonight. Love. Kelly's also from mass
Speaker 1: and I just remember going, oh, like many times, man,
Speaker 1: I'm living the college dream. So I often say the
Speaker 1: best three years of my life was in England. The
Speaker 1: best one year of my life was at Dean because
Speaker 1: I only went there one year, and it remains the
Speaker 1: most significant one year that told me that all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, going from someone who had no idea where
Speaker 1: he was going, Like at the beginning of senior year
Speaker 1: of high school, I had no idea what I was
Speaker 1: going to be doing at the end when when we
Speaker 1: graduated in June, and then by whatever I got accepted
Speaker 1: to Dean. It might have been like January, February, March,
Speaker 1: I can't remember what month that would have happened. And
Speaker 1: then going there and finding out I could pass class
Speaker 1: and professors were were I was inspired by that and
Speaker 1: the ball guys and all of a sudden, I'm a
Speaker 1: college student. Oh my god, Like there was nothing I
Speaker 1: wanted to do in the world after that summer then
Speaker 1: go back to Dean. So that's a testament to Dean.
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, working in the weight room. That
Speaker 1: was my job at Dean was to work in the
Speaker 1: weight room second semester and I was lifting and running,
Speaker 1: and when spring practice came around, I was I was
Speaker 1: just blazing around that place. Thank you, mister Williams. Took
Speaker 1: care of mechanical hey man, Thank you very much. Brother.
Speaker 1: We love you, and thank you for taking care of Dean,
Speaker 1: and thank you for showing up tonight as well, sir.
Speaker 1: So I would not have different things I've done, going
Speaker 1: and getting my pilot's license, going in the Air Force,
Speaker 1: and and going and trying out for things that I
Speaker 1: thought would have thought, we're beyond my capability mentally, that
Speaker 1: I couldn't have passed academically. The things that I that
Speaker 1: I went for, none of those things would have occurred,
Speaker 1: and I would not be here with a resume to
Speaker 1: speak of were it not for Dean. Dean is what
Speaker 1: made that happen. And the confidence of my teammates and
Speaker 1: and my schoolmates at Dean, and and people wanting to
Speaker 1: be my friend, you know, I mean, it's all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff. It was just I really can't you know.
Speaker 1: I promise that if I do go back to Dean
Speaker 1: and I will have something prepared and speak. But right
Speaker 1: now I'm feeling emotional about it, and and and it's
Speaker 1: it's difficult. But thank you Dean College for everything you've
Speaker 1: done to me. Though my degree may say Southern New Hampshire,
Speaker 1: you will never see me go up to that campus,
Speaker 1: but you will see me at Dean every year.
Speaker 6: Nice.
Speaker 1: Thank you, love Spiatraz, you're ready to close my love.
Speaker 3: Sure, I'll pass it back to you.
Speaker 1: All right. So what we're gonna do is time. All right,
Speaker 1: we've gone, We've gone two hours here, so I just
Speaker 1: want to recognize some people in the chat and then
Speaker 1: we're all going to get out of here as a group.
Speaker 1: GP dog A drool is in the joint. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much for twenty memberships. I cannot believe this, Dennis,
Speaker 1: Thank you, brother man. Yes, all star cast, and I
Speaker 1: want to say that the reason that this thing is
Speaker 1: great tonight, because you guys, a lot of you have
Speaker 1: seen calling all beings, is because of these four ladies
Speaker 1: right here, not me. It's what these guys brought, the energy,
Speaker 1: the positivity, their life experience, what happened to them at
Speaker 1: Dean Terry just absolutely dominie at the beginning. It was
Speaker 1: just like every every second thing, every second message in
Speaker 1: there was about Terry, and rightly so she's our leader
Speaker 1: in this joint. Thank you, Saidebah and Grill for you've
Speaker 1: gifted like twenty memberships. Leanne, I think you heard it's
Speaker 1: a weight room now. But if Terry can get us
Speaker 1: in there, I should see you in January, Leanne, and
Speaker 1: if I don't, I'll see you on later on this
Speaker 1: year and definitely at homecoming. And Terry can hopefully she
Speaker 1: can pull some strings. That's all I can say. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much, Ca, Jen uh kay is silent, McCabe
Speaker 1: Reality check, Amy, thank you love for becoming a new member. Judy,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being extremely generous. And yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody's in here. Jonathan is gonna ask if you know
Speaker 1: Peggy and and I don't think we want to go there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know Peggy or not.
Speaker 5: I do, but I don't want to go there.
Speaker 1: I do know, but we don't want to go there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't want to. We don't want to put any
Speaker 1: kind of drama on this family. So with that, uh,
Speaker 1: if you guys, last chance for your thumbs and don't
Speaker 1: be no great worker. She's so funny, Julie. You guys
Speaker 1: would all love Julie if you knew her. She's incredible.
Speaker 1: And somebody else is okay, And now what I'd like
Speaker 1: to do is if we could get a quick round
Speaker 1: of applause for the host of the joint tonight, who
Speaker 1: is such a natural that I'm feeling her YouTube her
Speaker 1: YouTube channel coming. But if not, she's gonna be welcome here.
Speaker 1: And that is my homegirl. Be it Tress. Thank you everyone,
Speaker 1: Thank you, love, appreciate you you. I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: stop using the word love because I just love the chat.
Speaker 1: I love you guys. It's just it's it's everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just comes out of my mouth. I just and yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's it and sealed off for cell tower quickly.
Speaker 1: That's great. So we're not going to get any ghost
Speaker 1: stories out of the fifth floor unfortunately. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what's separated there. Uh and yeah, so you're getting beach
Speaker 1: is getting all kinds of love right about now, right
Speaker 1: about now, funk soul brother, all right, there you go.
Speaker 1: The dance has been getting into it. And see that
Speaker 1: they haven't forgot. Oh, thank you love. Uh, big ups
Speaker 1: for my homies right there. I can't. I look forward
Speaker 1: to seeing you guys here in shoot worried about a
Speaker 1: month and a little over a month and a half.
Speaker 1: Now we'll see you back their Massachusetts boosy, beauty and
Speaker 1: st And we're also going to see Terry for a
Speaker 1: meal of food. We are all right. If you need
Speaker 1: somebody come get You'll come down to Franklin and get
Speaker 1: you all right home.
Speaker 5: Girl, Okay the deal?
Speaker 1: All right? Flight attendants prepare for land, please put your
Speaker 1: your seatbacks and trade tables in their upright and locked
Speaker 1: position on behalf of the dean of this group right here,
Speaker 1: Terry and Boozy, Beauty and sty and of course Beatrice.
Speaker 1: This is DJ saying peace out on love. We'll see
Speaker 1: you down the road and as always, we're wondering what's
Speaker 1: up around the bad
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