Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice.
Speaker 2: Mix in some vodka.
Speaker 1: Colored a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio
in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots. Gee Rahm,
it's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on,
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the word, people,
That's how we spread the word. Danny's here to night
in a Yankees hat World series, I think more interesting
than people fought. Yes, I mean, you had a game
that went forever and ever and ever. I ever's going
the best game ever I'm going. I would be fucking
crying unless I'm there, and I spent enough money to
be there. I don't think I'd give a shit. I
couldn't watch that. What it end at three o'clock in
the morning, two o'clock in the morning, East coast time,
East coast time. Yeah, but amazing, right, And certainly Freeman's
a hero again with the walk off to end it,
and then last night, I mean there was a chance
that La could have come back in the final inning
there in the final after we have two.
Speaker 3: Dudes who could hit right now, who'd imagine that with
that payroll. Yeah, two guys show show Hey and Freddy.
That's it.
Speaker 2: And then it was uh, pretty Freeman what's his name
off of show Hey? Hit the home run? Vlat Guerrero, Yeah,
Vlad Guerrero and Junior right, yes, yeah, and it's it's interesting.
Then I see this.
Speaker 3: You saw the picture of like Flad when he was
a little kid with the expos that's Glad? Was this
all when the game started? Like the eighteen to the game,
like like five of those.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 3: But you know who you know who did the anthem
for the eighteen to A game was Brad Paisley, who
also did the anthem for the last eighteen inning World
Series game, which was the Dodgers at the Red Sox
in twenty eighteen. So he also did two other games
that what ten and eleven innings. So the moral of
the story is, don't have Paisley to do the anthem.
Speaker 2: I saw a video I thought you were gonna tell me.
And the games go back to Toronto.
Speaker 3: I wonder if there's one more Los Angeles as we're
taping now, and then there will be two more in Toronto.
But the series is definitely going back to Toronto, cause
they fust have three at this point.
Speaker 2: Yes, best three and good for Toronto. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Two things on the World Series. Some people were posting
this tweet about President Trump saying both teams losers. I
don't want to we're going to investigate major league based.
It's not true. He did not post that.
Speaker 3: I never posted that.
Speaker 2: He did not post that. But it's funny. He did
ignore the Prime Minister of Canada on a bet for
the World Series. Okay, big deal, But it was just
funny to me because I saw this and people are like,
this is your president. He's a lunatic and it was
written and Trump speak. And then you're like, I go,
I don't know why I'm going to say this, because
again I'll say all the time, not really a Trump
guy at all, uh not not even not really just not.
But he didn't do that. No, and and that and that.
That's the stuff that they don't like. Because as much
as we people want to say, well, there's fake coming out,
there's fake on both sides, and we gotta be careful.
And it is terrible now because with AI, who the fuck
knows what's what? Oh yeah, you know, who know who
the hell knows.
Speaker 3: You ever like something on Twitter then come back with
community notes this was created with artificial intelligence. No, I've
had that.
Speaker 2: No, I don't even I rarely go on social media.
I'll scroll through pictures because it has nothing to do
with being busy. It really doesn't. I I I find
there's nothing appealing about it really isn't to me. Well,
I like seeing like what my my friends are, like
my college buddies are up to, and maybe some other
friends and things like that. But for the most part,
I'm not getting my news from there. And and maybe
I am. Maybe I'm seeing stuff, but I kinda And
you're right, it's not. I'm busy. Everybody's busy. I just
have enough stuff going on. It's funny, though, because this
month is going to be a bit of this upcoming month,
November a bit of a shit show in terms of
school stuff. But a piece of me emerged last night
in class that yeah, I might have taken a bridge
too far.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I might have just taken There were
crillic cats in class. No, only people's pets making him
into Hamburger.
Speaker 2: I might I might have taken a bridge just a
little bit too far. And I even said that phrase
was that a bridge too far only because, like I guess,
I was always I don't, I don't know I'm old
by comparison to many of the other students. But what
I have noticed is there is nobody who doesn't know
who I am in that class that doesn't not not
not because of the podcast and not be go of
my history with radio.
Speaker 3: You're the senior citizens. I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's other people as old as me or older. There's
I'm like the fourth oldest, so I'm not the oldest.
I'm up there. I'll give you that. But like the
teacher will refer to me and she'll go, oh you
and I remember this right and different thing. Yeah. But
but like other people that like I, they all like,
I don't know, I open my mouth and they start
fucking laughing or listen. So here was the the I
don't know. I was gonna say, assignment. It's not really assignment.
Here's the exercise we did in the class last night.
You had to invite three pairs of frenemies to your
Thanksgiving dinner, and then you had to create a menu. Okay,
and whatever you used first, the last letter of the
word had to be the first letter of the next
item on the table, and you needed eight. You follow me,
So you had you had yams jams, right, you'd have
to have kraut, sauer, kraut, salad, soup whatever, right, and
that and you did that. And then if you had salad,
then somebody had dackeries at theirs and okay, you see
what I'm saying. Yeah, okay, so our frenemies. And remember
I'm the oldest and it's all women and me in
my group and the front of me. So they were picking.
I think they had Kanye and Taylor Swift. They had
Cardi B and no, I'm trying to trying to remember,
I probably haven't in my bag there. Uh. And then
it was my turn, so I said, Eric Clapton and
George Harris. Now if you don't know and I and
and some people are like, who's George Harrison. I know
he's a beatle. He was a beatle. Is this good? Okay,
it's good because Eric Clapton fell in love with George
Harrison's wife while she was still married to George Harrison,
and she left Harrison for Clapton, and Clapton wrote the
song Laila about this woman, so so I and and
yet they're friends. Like I once heard John Mayer say,
Eric Clapton burned me a CD. He made me a
CD of songs that he thought were important for me
to hear. And one of them was a George Harrison
song and it was, uh, I think it's what do
you mean to me? I'd have to look it up.
Maybe we'll play it. But it's not one of the
better known George Harrison songs. But it's he said, Quincy said,
a song. But how weird is that? Right? Eric Clapton
makes a CD for John Mayer and puts the George
Harrison song on there. They did end up friends, yes,
but that's a fucking weird thing. So now, in this exercise, Dan,
you had to put the food in front of certain
guests and explain why why was the turkey going to
be put in front of Taylor because she's gonna host this,
which because it would really piss off Kanye. Kanye got
the green bean cast role because he's a piece of shit.
Nobody likes him.
Speaker 3: Right, my wife makes a good green bean cast role.
Speaker 2: Okay, we make fun of green bean cast role most people, yeah,
a lot of people. So now and I'm the one
because they all kind of look at me and I
don't know why. I just I just talk in these classes.
I have no problem just answering questions and doing whatever.
So I said the stuffing is in front of Clapton
because that's what he was doing to George Harrison.
Speaker 3: And where people on their phones going okay, look Harris,
like the place whent fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: And the guy who's instructing it, it's probably thirty eight
years old, and he goes, whoa, my god, and he's
like laughing, I go Bridge too far was out of
Bridge too far? But like, yeah, so it just came
out last night. It was just like what we do
with it.
Speaker 3: Right, like we were doing we would say that here,
We were saying that.
Speaker 2: On any show we did. But yeah, Eric Clapton and
George Harrison where my friend of me. He's at the
Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, that is pretty good. That's a smart I mean,
but that shows your age. Yes, But that's why the
funny thing is, though, is that you were like in
your early like developing years with those two, like oh god,
Harrison was already out of the the Beatles had already
broke it off up right, and you know Clapton was
a Derek and the Dominoes with that, But that's Clapton.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, this is.
Speaker 3: Before Crossroads, Yeah, after cream Yeah, so that's like even
that would be old for you.
Speaker 2: Then, yes, But but I worked in classic rock and
the Stories, and I always loved the stories. I love
the history.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Like one of my favorite shows in the
nineties I wish they'd bring it back, was behind the
new music, like the Carpenters. Do you realize that Karen
Carpenter made but the greatest drummer ever, Like she was
better than John Bottom.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know.
Speaker 3: She was fantastic.
Speaker 2: I knew, but she just couldn't eat. I like it,
she couldn't stomach it.
Speaker 3: And I put in the turkey in front of Karen
encouraging her to eat. Was it the story that the
Carpenters were kind of incestuous?
Speaker 2: It sure seemed that way. I mean, if you watch
old video, it's fucking weird. Yeah, it just as weird.
But I did, Uh yeah, I forget what other people
had things in there? What was that just gonna say?
Karen Carfter, Eric Clapton, George Harrison, I don't know it
was all.
Speaker 3: That stuff, but I always like, oh the age thing.
Speaker 2: No, pop up video was another one that was fun
pop up video. Yeah, and they gave you the fact
the video and it is funny because I do think
people like to feel like they're smart. Oh yeah, and
so when you have a little bit of knowledge on
something like that, it's fun.
Speaker 3: And coming on here Bill.
Speaker 2: Because you have a little bit of knowledge, do you
want to share?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Billy, yeah, you know. And the cliff Claimate of
the show.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah. So that that was my Thanksgiving dinner, Eric
Cleft and Stuffy.
Speaker 3: Do you have Thanksgiving plans yet?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yes, and yes I do because I've tried my wife,
who is the essential planner. Yeah, I have a joke
already knows who's playing in the next four Super Bowls,
you know. She said, so what do we do with thanksgivving? No,
it's not even Halloween yet, and uh.
Speaker 2: Well I get that question honestly. Uh sometime in late
July early August. Oh, yes, okay, I always do. And
my answer back is I don't fucking know, which is
terrible because when I'm realizing and I was talking to
you before as to how I am realizing, and if
you listen to the previous episode you can even hear
more of it. What a completely inept, fucked up human
I am. And it's actually made me kind of pissed off,
to be quite honest with you. But that has nothing
to do with anything. It's a whole bunch of stuff.
But I do think like having plans with family, it
just makes it easier when you kind of know you
can prepare for it and you can you know what
it is. It's kind of like if you remember working
on a project, or you work on a let's take
it to a bit, like you're doing some stand up
or something and you've been writing it and rehearsing it
and writing it and doing it and tighten it up,
and all of a sudden an idea hits you that
would just make it that much better. And it's almost
like if you plan for Thanksgiving, you could almost plan
to go. I hate when you know so and so
does it, Here's what I'm going to do to kind
of offset that. And it almost makes everything better because
you have more time to actually focus on the meat
and potatoes instead of just the just the ansel, just
the task of getting there right right whatever, But what
is your plan?
Speaker 3: I don't have any. And so my sister has has
got stuff going on, my brother's got stuff going on,
my other brothers in Florida. So my my mother in
law is going to Rhode Island to be with my sister,
my wife's brother's family. So said, what do you want
to do. Well, I haven't talked to my mom yet
about Thanksgiving, but there's it's got to have to do
with my mom. I do want to spend Thanksgiving with
my mom. I don't know how many Thanksgivings we have left,
I mean, because you know, we're at that age, you know.
At the same time, though, there's other ancillary parties that
would also be involved with my mother that drives me
crazy or could drive me crazy, yeah, or make me
not want to go. This is like, if that's what
you say, crazy error or crazy. Yeah, well yeah, so
it's like, so I'm trying to figure out, Okay, well
what do we do. My wife's like, well, we could
have them here and control it, and I said, that
is true, we could do that, but then that would
involve other ancillary parties on our d that might want
to like jump in if that makes sense, And we
all have so much space. Yeah, and so that's kind
of like the dilemma that I'm dealing with.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, you know what I'm saying. You got to iron
that out. Yeah, And honestly, you don't have a lot
of time, no, because it will take time then to
prepare and be ready. Yeah. My Thanksgiving I think started
last Thanksgiving. Now, last Thanksgiving was the second year that
po bill. My dad said he was picking up the bill,
but we had learned our lesson with the liquor, yes,
and the seventy eight dollars bottles of wine at Merbau
that he was not. He was so pissed off about.
So this year we started our own liquor bill, which
pissed him off even more. And then when he got
the bills, like give me that other thing, so he
paid for all of Well, now he's not here, and
my mother has a community center. She lives in a
condo and she's always combits in with all kinds of stuff,
and she's they have a like a pool, and there's
like a house and there's a ping pong table and
it's set up like lounges. It smells moldy to me
in there. Oh, I'm not a fan, but she can
rent it out for Thanksgiving. So Marge put down the
deposit on this and this is all we've heard about.
Speaker 3: I put the deposit down down here.
Speaker 2: I bet the deposit. So but then dad dies and
my sister next week is having rotator cuff surgery. So
she's out for Thanksgiving. She's pretty much out. Excuse me,
bless you, thank you. She's pretty much out with everything.
So my brother goes, oh, well, we'll being around for Thanksgiving.
And I don't know if they were normally. I don't
think they ski that weekend. So he's like, yeah, we'll
be around. And so my mother's like, well, maybe will
go there, Maybe we'll go there. So I go, yeah,
we'll go there. So Jamies and I will probably go down.
Jackson will come up. I have no idea where Jordan's
gonna do. If he's staying with his girlfriend, I have
no idea.
Speaker 3: They've been together a couple of years now.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, oh no, I know they have.
Speaker 2: I maybe that was terrible of what I just did,
since that was I don't know, I I you know,
there's a piece of you that goes, don't I guess
my knee jerk reaction to that is lovely girl. My
father loved her.
Speaker 3: I thought she was the greatest, but really smart. Huh,
she's really smart. Like when we were at that Red
Wigs game, she had a whole conversation with that professor. Dude. Yeah,
and they were going on and on about stuff.
Speaker 2: And and my dad really liked her. And then my
dad would did stuff that creeped me out. He's like,
she's she got up, she wore a clothes that revealed
some stuff. And she's a dancer. And she did some
dance move because my niece and nephew take dance lessons.
My nephews into hip hop dance and tap dance and
all this. They they're like regular, Yes, so they're they're
doing their dances and she does some pirouette. My fog
was somebody on her and I go, fuck, are you
what the fuck? I don't say that, but he meant
it like I think. I don't know, I mean maybe
went home.
Speaker 3: I have no idea that it's an iron butterfly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dad, what do we so? Uh? Yes, I think
it's great. I know many people. I have friends of
mine who I went to high school with. Both went
to college in separate places and have been married forever,
been in high school sweethearts since probably the ninth or
tenth grade. Good for them. There's then there's me, and
I am realizing what a fucked up mess I was
in every relationship, and I was just looking to avoid
the pain of the end of one so I would
start a new one, and that kind of stuff. I
would just say, you know, if I'm heard Dad, I'm like, honey,
go do whatever you want to do. Go live in France,
bank some guy named Pierre, and then come back when
you get out there. You know what I'm saying. I
don't know. And with Jordan, I'm like, buddy, just relax
and everything's going to work out.
Speaker 3: There will be somebody there.
Speaker 2: My belief is there's millions of people for that you
could line up with that would be great for you. Right,
Not everybody, but there is that thing. And you know, no,
you shouldn't need anybody. You should just want something. And
I worry that there becomes like a dependence from his end.
I don't know from her end, but from his end,
and I don't want to see you tie yourself to
something when someone else is you know, she's not even
out of college yet. And when she gets out of college,
you know, she may want to just kind of go, hey, man,
this was fun, but I need to spread my wings
a little bit. And I I which I think is
very valid, right, and I'm just looking at this, and
I go, don't get your don't go so in that
you're that you're gonna get crushed like to like dust.
And and if you do get crushed like dust, feel
it all. Get over it, give yourself a little breathing room,
and three or four months later, go find someone new. Right,
That would be my advice. But I worry when I
see like young tied together like that, if he hears this,
they'll be pissed.
Speaker 3: So you've you've lived it, We've lived it well. We
all wish we could go back and tell our younger self, Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 2: I just wish I, dude, concentrate on you. Right, your
twenties is a nice time to concentrate on you.
Speaker 3: I wish i'd focused on me.
Speaker 2: And just focus on you a little bit and and
don't worry about it. I'm at a point in my
life where, uh, I I have you know, there are
people I would love to spend time with and if
they can't spend time with me, I'm not gonna fucking spell.
I got friends, I got plenty of money. I'm okay.
I don't that that's my thing. I don't. I'm not
worried about that stuff. I don't know. It sounds dicky,
but I'm I'm almost like, you get to live your
twenties again if you want to, you know what I mean.
Let me tell you something right now, fellas, I have
not been on a dating app. Ever, I will probably
never go on a dating app, and it has nothing
to do with anything other than I just it would
be weird. I've never done it. I think it would
be too weird for me. But I will say, if
you go out, the ladies in their forties are on
a proud they looking for some funk back.
Speaker 3: At our day night my vagina is you know what
I mean? Oh, Taylor's no.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying like, there's plenty of good
looking educated people in this in our community where we are,
and probably anywhere. And if you wanted to meet somebody,
meet them, go take a shot, hit them up on
social media, or slide into their d ms. As the
kids saying, man well, slide into your.
Speaker 3: D M and if not, the fuck cares.
Speaker 2: Man. I've had more than I should. Any man should
be allowed to.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, look at you will so I'm kidding.
I know you're the Thanksgiving thing though, So you're gonna
go up to like Maine probably okay, cool, George W.
Bush will show up at you.
Speaker 2: That wouldn't surprise me if that did happen. Uh No,
but yeah, I think I'd have a great time. I
have a lot of fun with them. My brother and sister, well,
they're very They work in hospitality and they bring that home.
They when they do and when they do something Danny,
I mean they do it like you throw a party. No,
when I when I lived over in Pittsford, I had
a lot of parties. You were a few of the parties.
There were nice parties. My brother throws a party. He
hires a band, there's a slipping slide for the kids
into the pond. There's bonfires. Uh they even at There
are times just on a random weeknight, my brother has
a Blackstone will they come with their own and it's
almost like haibachi that you can cook. So they hire
the habachi guys from the Hibachi restaurant to come to
their backyard and they have like videos on on Instagram
of them, like the guys flipping the shrimp but they're
in the backyard.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah. Like they just do it right.
Speaker 2: I mean if there's tents and there's beer and there's catering,
and like they just it's everything. It's fucking awesome. They're
always running around doing whatever, and it's it's a great
time and you feel welcome, and I just sit back
and watch it. Go fuck man party, like as I suck.
Speaker 3: My sister throws a great Christmas party. I go, Hey,
every Christmas Eve, bank on Beth and I be in here.
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. We'll take the moment. Our friend
Peter Montemurno is gonna join us. Do we want Peter?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Peter's fired up?
Speaker 2: Is he? I'm worried. Peter was at Oh that's the
game in Charlotte, at the game in Charlotte.
Speaker 3: And he had some observations.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear.
Speaker 3: Coach mcderbott And I don't think people are gonna like
what he has to say. Sure, but yeah, I think
it's pretty fair.
Speaker 2: Sure not, but we'll get to that I'm gonna find
that George Harrison's song to bring us back. We'll get
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the song I can't remember the title of it.
Speaker 3: This is the song that everybody identifies with George Harrison
though on his own this is one of them. Yeah,
this one my sweet lord, and I got my mind
set on you, mind setting me. It was such a
poppy song. I was like, I love that song.
Speaker 2: I look at video, such a poppy song. But this one,
I'm thinking of God, I can't come up with the title,
but this is what is life. It's a very beatlesque type, right.
He wrote a lot of the best beatles, so he
was my favorite beatle.
Speaker 3: Did you ever see the video for when they did
the tribute to George Harrison. I think it was the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: Of while my guitar Jenny weeps and it's jeff Lynn,
Tom Petty, Steve Winwood and Prince on stage. Oh you've
gotta you gotta see this video, folks.
Speaker 3: If you haven't seen this, I love go to YouTube
and just watch. This is the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I did see this, because doesn't Prince like
Prince plays everybody.
Speaker 3: Not plays everybody. Yeah, he's got like props and stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean it's hysterically. I had to get another beer
because Peter's gonna come on at night. I think I'm
just gonna have to pop the beer and let it
go on. But there it is. George Harrison, What is Life?
That's not the song I'm thinking of.
Speaker 3: I'll have to right this song about the wife that
left him for captain. Did he find new love afterwards?
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's that's pretty funny.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Peter was at the game on Sunday, Yes, he was. Yeah, Uh,
it's funny because I'm not into it as you guys are.
You know, I'm not gonna live and die by it.
I certainly enjoy it.
Speaker 4: You could have pulled me.
Speaker 2: What do you mean he could have fooled you? No, no, no,
I'm saying I'm not as into it as you guys.
Is when I say, when I say that, yes, I
enjoy it, I actually not breaking down. I actually turned
down tickets, but I'm don't. It's not really. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have too much fucking ship to do.
Speaker 2: I have I have Peter. I'm back in school. I
got papers I gotta do. I got reflection paper due tuesday.
I got a test due thursday. I got more ship,
I got m s c's, I gotta write tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I gotta podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm fucked. Okay, but Peter hundred on every mid term
really a one hundred.
Speaker 4: That is excellent. Can you elaborate a little bit? Where
are you going?
Speaker 2: Saint John Fisher College mental health counseling, uh, licensing it
and mental health counseling. So when I'm university with the
program St. John Fisher University, and when I'm done.
Speaker 4: It's like rich Stadium, I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3: You need louder, Yeah, for some reason, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's why. It's just way down, your way down,
no I. And so when I'm done, you get you
have to take the licensing exam, and then you will
have diagnostic privileges and you like house, you can see
clients clearly you have bipolar well right, but I can't.
I can't write you medicine.
Speaker 3: No, you can't. So then you could be a psychologist.
You can't be a psychologist.
Speaker 2: Now here's the other thing. Fisher may open a doctoral
program in this and I may just float over. I
don't know. It could happen. It could happen because I'm
enjoying this more than I thought I would a lot.
I really am, and I can see ways to tie
the podcast in. And the goal I'm going to just
say it because I haven't talked about this a lot.
The goal for me is I want to buy a building,
and I know exactly where. I've been in visioning this
for years and I'm just waiting for the right time.
I will buy the building. And I want to build
podcast studios. I wouldn't mind, depending on what one of
my kids does, opening a gym that it would be
part of this, and also mental health, so you could
have mind and body together together, our podcast, mental health podcast.
We build a podcast network, we do the Bill Lightenment
all that show.
Speaker 3: And then a comedy club next door to make fun
of every buddy.
Speaker 2: And but that's kind of the thing.
Speaker 3: Now back to the Buffalo buildings.
Speaker 2: When I say I'm not as deep as you guys,
I don't break down the film. You guys go back
and watch, don't what do you have the I don't.
Speaker 3: Even have time to do it. I let Peter do it.
But some of these guys, like I think, they're like
Peter has time to do I know because Peter's like,
you know, he's a pretty big business guy in Charlotte.
I know people did the city at banks for a reason.
Speaker 2: Wait, Peter is a pretty big he's a dedicated for Yeah,
I thought he was coaching one of his kids. I'm
not sure, no, no, okay, but I know he.
Speaker 3: Went seven houses.
Speaker 2: He went and did play by play for a college game.
Speaker 4: I did color color analysts.
Speaker 2: Okay, but either way, that takes preparation. You can't mispronounced
names and stuff, and that's not always easy. So I
don't know how he does it, but he does it.
And you were there for a blotwout win that after
I even after the score, I'm kind of like, it
doesn't feel like a forty four to nine game to me. No,
it didn't, right, it didn't, okay, And in the beginning
it was scaring me.
Speaker 4: It was it was it was too close. It was
what six to.
Speaker 3: Three at one point sixty three and a half.
Speaker 4: In the half was very cool environment wise, more than
half of the stadium was littered with bills fans.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, what happened here?
Speaker 4: What happened down here in Carolina is the number one.
This is not an NFL city I don't care what
anybody says. It is not in NFL city. So they
weren't really putting a lot of stock into the team
this year. Is still a lot of you know, problems
holes when I say they the fans. So in the
summer when they had an opportunity to sell all of
their season tickets to the Bills fans in the Bills
game because the Bills travel so well, they did it. Now,
no one thought the Panthers would be foreign too, but
the fans like, yeah, let's get some money instead of
you know, wasting it on a team that could be terrible.
And that's why you had a ton a ton of
Bill's fans in the stadium. That pretty cool.
Speaker 2: That is that is pretty cool.
Speaker 3: You want to hear a funny story. Pittsburgh's an NFL city,
right Yeah? Yeah, you think so. They're mostly Packers fans
in Pittsburgh Sunday night.
Speaker 2: Well have they? Here's the thing I'm wondering if the
NFL teams, much like the Bills, are going to do
with the private seat licensing and things that add to
the tickets that the die hard families that were of
these long standing teams, Pittsburgh, Green Bay Buffalo. You know,
I would consider the Panthers a newer team, even though
they've been around for a while. Uh, if people are
not buying them and it makes it easier for fans,
I mean, look at Dallas, you know it. I'll go,
I'll go watch the game. I'll come from Kansas City.
We'll have a great time. Buffalo's a fun atmosphere for
the game. I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's stories about Tony Romo and Dallas having to go
to a silent count in Dallas when he was playing
teams like Green Bay or Houston.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, you know, but what it also showed
me and number when I was eight rows behind the
Bills bench and the defensive side.
Speaker 2: The hell, what good fancy?
Speaker 4: I know right when out there? But it allowed me
to you know, I like watching the game. I really
like watching the sideline. I like watching the dynamics. I
like watching McDermott. He's manically pacing the whole entire game,
the stuff you don't see TV.
Speaker 2: Does that make me? How do you feel about that?
You like that? You don't like that?
Speaker 4: I don't like that? And I noticed several times he
goes up to the defensive bench way more than the
offensive bench, if at all.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yes.
Speaker 4: And he also has an I think, Danny, I text
you from my seat, he has an entire place. She
holds a play sheet. Yes, And in between defensive plays,
he's looking at the play sheet. He's talking to someone upstairs,
probably Bobby right. Probably I shouldn't assume. But who's calling
the defense? That's my question. Who's calling the defense? He's
got he had a big play sheet, all the defensive
plays there, and he's when the offense is on that
and I didn't watch it all the time, but when
the offense is on the field, he's not having those dieting,
he's not having a lot of dialogue in his microphone,
and the defense is on the field, he's looking at
that play sheet and he's uh, he's talking pretty rapidly
and pretty phonetically. And then he again pacing a little
too much for my.
Speaker 3: I thought.
Speaker 4: What I do want to say is that there is
zero emotional leader on that sideline, coaches or players, zero, Okay,
And that's a concern to me.
Speaker 2: The I thought the defense actually was pretty good. They
were time went on, they were, yeah.
Speaker 4: They were. They had some new blood in there, you know,
ripping it up, and the offensive line isn't that bad?
Andy Dalton was really rusty. He did not, he did not.
There were some things that were open for him that
he didn't see. But you'll give defense the defense credit.
They got in his face.
Speaker 2: Well that's a really that's a really good point. But
I thought Andy in the beginning, I mean, he had
a twenty seven yard play to the sideline, a pinpoint
accurate past, and then I'm watching Josh and I saw
what I thought were flashes of old Josh where he's
scrambling running, a player reaches out told of his shirt.
Josh keeps running, the shirts ripping off, and then he
gets sacked. But he couldn't It was like he couldn't
find anything. And then there were moments where I go,
my god, that was laser accuracy on the run along
the sideline, pinpoint right in the chest, beautiful passes. So yeah,
I'm going, is he what's happening with Josh? I'm not.
I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's anything happening to him. I
think that the running game is all really you needed
on Sunday. I mean, they kept running that reverse pivot
toss sweep all day long, and they basically said stop us,
and the Panthers couldn't, and they kept running that toss
sweep and they kept coming back and then they were
able to gain a lot of yards in between the tackles.
So that offensive line for the Bills really dominated a
pretty good Panthers d line. Yeah, they stayed on blocks,
they climbed her to the second level, and Cook was
just being cooked, you know. I mean, first Bill since
nineteen seventy eight to have two hundred plus yards and
two touchdowns. That's pretty damn good.
Speaker 2: That is very good, very good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your sandwich between guys like Therman Thomas and Joe
Cribs and those types of guys.
Speaker 2: And Ojo say his name are we yes? He's dead? Miss?
Speaker 3: Yeah it was Oj.
Speaker 4: It was okay? So right, So yeah, I mean, uh,
you saw some good things. But still the passing game
didn't seem like consistent. Right. The first half was like
what is six to three? What's going on here? Right?
There were some plays, Josh, Miss. There were some plays
where receivers were getting open. There was a play where
key On just stopped his route. There was a scramble
and I don't know if they sold it on TV,
but it was right in front of him. What why? What?
What are you doing? What are you stopping your route?
I can't give you the down and distance at the
time of the game, but it just was clear as day.
So it's just they were out of sync. The passing
game was out of sink, and luckily the running game wasn't.
Speaker 2: Well that's true because the running game is what carried it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: But but even though Josh I only.
Speaker 3: Had two big plays that really broke the Panthers backs,
the big run Shakir from Cooking, the big catch and
go from.
Speaker 2: Shakir Shakiro, I think those were the ones that set
Josh in the NFL record books. For the forty seventh
game where he had a rushing and a passing touchdown. Yeah,
and then the seventy seventh game with a rushing touchdown.
So that puts him above Cam Newton, now who had
the record, I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, and I will I will say that I
don't see them being able to run that tass suitep
against Chiefs. No, the Chiefs with our team consistently throughout
four quarters, the.
Speaker 3: Chiefs just like I mean, it's just what you want
to the stat about the Chiefs. This is great. Okay.
Last year, the Chiefs lost three games, They lost the
Super Bowl, they lost the last game of the season,
which didn't count because they didn't put anybody in there
because I already have everything wrapped up, and they lost
to the Bills three games the entire year. This year,
they've already lost twice. However, they've scored more thirty point
games this year than they did all of last year,
and they have more double digit wins this year than
they had all of last year. It's like they've figured
it out. And this is after losing to Philadelphia, which
is there's no shame in that, and Jacksonville on a
Monday night in a fluky Monday night game. The Chiefs
looked like they've figured it out. And the Bills, we
don't know if they've figured anything out because they beat
a Carolina team that they should have crushed anyway, with
a quarterback who didn't play all that well and receivers
who are at the bottom of the league and getting separation.
Speaker 2: Are we I mean, do we get really upset if
if they lose?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I look if they lose, I look at
it as a regression.
Speaker 2: Okay, I do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is a team beat in the
regular season. Last year you lost in the AFC Championship.
You had obviously opportunities in that game. He's a close game,
get the ball in your hands with a chance to
win at the end. And if they lose, listen, if
if it's a tight fourth quarter game, that that scares
me more than anything.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, well now, well look we had we had
a really tight game to begin the season Baltimore and
Josh pulled that out.
Speaker 4: That was the game was over, and you know, thank
God for for Oliver and knocking the ball onto Henry's. Well,
there weren't a lot of coaching decisions that had to
be made.
Speaker 2: Oliver out out for the season.
Speaker 3: He's out for the regular season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, Dan, if you agree with that.
There weren't a lot of coaching, critical coaching decisions that
had to be made in that.
Speaker 3: Well there were, and then McDermott blew them going like
chasing points. That's why they had to keep like trying
to come back more and more. But it was like Josh,
it was literally Josh Allen putting the team on his back.
By the way. He had a full complimentary receivers in
that game and tight end too. Is the first game
with the season, and as I said three weeks ago,
you're only gonna get more and more banged up as
the season he goes. You don't get healthier, You're gonna
get more banged up. Good news, Trell Bernard and Matt
Maulana will likely be back for this game. Okay, that's
the good news. The bad news is that Josh Palmer
is going to be probably out again. And you also
have a kicker with a calf issue. So now that's
two kickers you have injured. So if it comes down
to that close game and you got to send Matt
forty how many old how old Prater? He's over forty
to try to kick a game winning field goal with
a bad calf, that might be. He was limited today
in practice. Oh Shaq Thompson too, who has been their
best defensive linebacker this year, maybe their best player who
is like on the wrong side of thirty, who they
grab from Carolina, because where do they get everybody? Carolina?
And he was one of your best defensive players last week.
He was limited in practice today.
Speaker 4: I mean so watching watching the game and seeing Joel
and recent in there. They played him a lot. He's
I mean, I love the story. Joe is he is?
He is? He an NFL linebacker. I don't think he's
like your your your prototypical NFL linebacker right now as
a rookie. But he was in there. But do you
do you get nervous when it's crunch time and he's
in there? Right again, I love the story. I love
the story. But uh yeah, Bill, and I look at
Kansas City. I don't know if you watched that game
against Washington.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll slipping back and forth between that and
the World Series, but I saw enough of it to
know what I think.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, right, I mean, you're hitting this strike.
Speaker 2: I saw enough.
Speaker 4: But gosh, you know, when it got twenty one seven,
I was done because Mario I was not going to
bring it back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was a seventh, seventh game with he had some moments.
He had some moments. It was a seven seven game
with the Washington's got talent on that offense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but.
Speaker 3: They had moments. But the thing was just that, like
you'll give give watching the credit. They went after it.
They took chances at the first time you have to
when you're playing at Kansas City on the Monday night.
The reason Kansas City the game was even closer because
Kansas City was just like just had some brain cramps
with turnovers and stuff for the first half, and the
second half of they got their act together. Peter, it
seems like even on busted plays, somebody's always open to
bail Mahomes out. And that's the difference.
Speaker 4: When the big win to Kelsey up to the far
side boundary.
Speaker 3: That was the play of the game that broke their back.
Speaker 4: And yeah, just plays that are shouldn't be happening, busted
plays are still go on the positive in the positive
column for k C. It's concerning. I mean, it's gonna
be a Buffalo. It's gonna be four twenty five game.
Obviously a huge crowd pro Buffalo. Not a lot of
KC Chiefs are gonna fans are gonna be there. It's
gonna be just like last year, right, But there's no
room for air. There's no room for air here in
this game.
Speaker 3: It's it's weird because if they lose, sky is fall,
season's over. You gotta make a move. You only have
two days to do it because the trade deadline is
four o'clock on election day, Okay, and if they have
many moves yet, I don't know if they're gonna make
any netiter.
Speaker 2: Who should they grab If you're if, if you're in
that front office, if you're one of these guys, I'm sorry.
I had a camera issue. My camera is down to
one percent, and I was trying to figure out the plugs. Okay,
I was paying attention. No no, no, no, no no,
That's that's why I cracked the beer.
Speaker 3: Okay, come on, I'm good. Okay.
Speaker 2: But if if the trade deadline comes down a clear clearly,
I would think receiver, right, we want a receiver that
can get some separation. Okay, I don't know what do
you think I'm asking to me.
Speaker 4: I gotta go defense. I gotta go safety, I gotta
I gotta go safety, or I gotta go linebacker. We
have what we have at This scheme is developed for
these these receivers, okay, these bubble screens, and however it is,
it's developed for that receiving core. It's unfortunate because you
need a guy to take the.
Speaker 3: Top off with Josh exactly.
Speaker 4: You need someone to take the top off, right, which
is going to help out your receivers underneath. If if
if a Kansas City's defense is worried.
Speaker 2: About somebody running deep, yeah feel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I guess if I would go, I would
go a safety, A one receiver, and then and then
B linebacker.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's where I am, all right.
Speaker 3: I just don't don't know we're gonna we're gonna find
those guys unless they're like cast offs. I just I mean,
I mean, I'm with you. I want them to make
a move. I just don't know how or where. Who's
desperate enough to trade somebody like that to Buffalo. It's
not gonna be anybody in the conference. What's that?
Speaker 4: What are we giving up? And can we afford that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Because you've got the salary cap applications too, Like, don't
believe anybody who's just the salary cap is a mynt
throw more on.
Speaker 2: But I always say it's so pliable, right, I mean
they there's ways or round this year there is, there are,
but there aren't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could back I don't think you could back
in load a contract like you can't in baseball. I
don't believe you can. But like what they did with
Otani and half the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, you can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, paying his great grandchildren.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not. You can't. Bobby Bonia a receiver, Bobby
Bone in July first he gets what one point two
million dollars?
Speaker 2: Two million? Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 3: Here's here's the flip side though, Like, if they win
this game, all as well, everything's fine, we don't have
anything to worry about. And if they lose, oh, season's over,
goodbye one seed. It's over. We're done.
Speaker 2: Hey, you're already. Uh, you're already in second place.
Speaker 3: We're in no win situation with this game, because if
they win this game, there's there's no way they're good
enough to go with a January.
Speaker 4: This roster is built for the regular season. Nothing tells
me anything more than that until they make to make
it to the Promised Land.
Speaker 2: Okay, this roster is built for the.
Speaker 4: Regular season, not January February.
Speaker 2: You heard it here. I'm billified out of Peter's mouth.
I think that's I think it's a very valid point.
You've said that before, Danny has agreed with that. This
is where I say I'm a fan just not that deep.
Speaker 4: Here's what in one thing I'm just saying that which
drives me crazy, is that everybody's complaining about Kan Coleman
now and all these types of things, and you know
the same beat reporters that are covering the Bills in
camp and Dan we talked about this today, how great
Kean Coleman did in shorts with uncontested running routes against nobody,
How great he looks. And then it comes to the
regular season. Wow, what happened? Come on, guys?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he and Dalton k both. Oh, they look fantastic.
They look bigger, they look stronger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a pro day for a quarterback in college.
This should be the number one pick. Throwing it in
great weather. No elements right, no defended receiver, no rush
against the line. It's all it's window dressing. It's like
it's it's like, uh, you.
Speaker 3: Know it's Instagram.
Speaker 2: Well it's also it's also I think receivers a harder
position than people realize. It's not just run out and catch,
it's run out.
Speaker 4: The thing is what people don't ever talk about, and
they should, is that quarterbacks, when they call it to
the last scrimmage, they read coverage. Josh Allen reads the coverage.
The receivers don't read the coverage. They read the leverage
as to where the defenders at to know where to
run the route. Spacial they call it spatial awareness awareness.
They read leverage and that's the key. So it's all
about you have to know where to run. You have
to know where the open space is. You have to
know what's going on next to you and where the
other receivers are. When you see receivers running in the
same area that that's that's a huge problem.
Speaker 2: Has anybody seen the commercial where they go, you like football,
but you don't like it like Tom Brady. If you
had Tom Brady's ten pound brain in your five pound head,
you got ten pounds of dollars and a five pound brain.
And the guy looks out the window and he's watching
his kiss, but he said, god, you gotta look off
the safety.
Speaker 3: He's like getting offence.
Speaker 2: They're just playing in the front yard and Tom Brady
ding dong at the door. Absolutely, you gotta look off.
There is like.
Speaker 3: Where the guys in the factory and has explained a
football to.
Speaker 2: This Asian woman box Yeah, oh okay.
Speaker 3: She's like, huh. Now, all the guys get up from
the table because they know he's gonna talk football, and
Tom Brady walks in, he goes, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like when he grabs you walk in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he grabs two mugs. Are he's free?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Peter, give me a score?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 4: Twenty six four Chiefs? Oh oh oh no.
Speaker 2: I feel like the lady that fell off stopping brains.
Speaker 3: I think Pete and I think Pete's giving the Bills
a little too much credit.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, hey man, maybe they uh,
you know, answer the bell.
Speaker 4: I think if the Bills play their best game and
the Chiefs play their best game, Chiefs win.
Speaker 3: Chiefs win, Okay, yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Same thing to be.
Speaker 4: Some mistakes have to be, some turnovers, you know, turn
If you don't force the turnover, you're not winning.
Speaker 2: What do you say? Four?
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be like twenty seven, twenty
seven to fourteen chiefs wow ow ow. Yeah. I don't
like saying that we're objective.
Speaker 2: They're they're realist.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: You know who Howard Simon is. He hosted for, you know,
the pregame show for years and he retired recently. Right,
so the general manager the Bills went after his old
morning show on the Buffalo Bill's flagship station. So he
went on television this week and he says, if the
Bills do not make a move before the trade deadline,
it means that Brandon Bean is not committed to winning
a Super Bowl this year. Dude, I haven't heard anybody
say that about a Buffalo Bills head coach or general
manager ever. Amen, not Pollyon, not Donaho, not Modraq, not Levy. Yeah,
because nobody.
Speaker 2: But here's why the expectations are so high. Now. Most
of the people you just listed were in the ship
years well put not Pollion, but they couldn't trade it
at the deadline, and it wouldn't made any difference.
Speaker 3: What I mean. He's always like, you've never heard a
media guy call out the front office like that, but didn't.
Speaker 4: What was Poleon's retort to reporter, He said, you don't
like it, you can get out of town.
Speaker 3: Yeah he's yeah, he says like in eighty seven. I
forgot who he was talking to, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, that was the only time I remember
that type of violent response from not violent.
Speaker 3: Papoleon was a nut, like if if the Bills played
the Raiders, it's a Raiders week, he wouldn't let any
of the Syracuse alum who were in the media talk
to the bills or go in the locker room, because
he was afraid that those Syracuse alumni would go to
al Davis as a Syracuse alone and give them intel.
That's how paranoid Pollion was on the floorboards.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's funny. All right, Well, Peter, I I it
sounds like you enjoyed the game. They left with a win,
a big score. It was fun and uh.
Speaker 4: My birthday it was.
Speaker 2: It was a nice time, very nice. Hopefully the uh
the winner and the loser are reversed. Yes, pick but
but we'll see.
Speaker 4: And I am going to say I went to a
pregame event, uh for oh Chi was hospital in Buffalo,
Patricia and the Patricia Allen Foundation, and Darryl Talley was there,
Ted Washington was there, Derman Thomas was there. Darryl was awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, always is.
Speaker 4: Thurman was not. That's a jerk. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: He's been in for years. Why is anybody ever disagree
that he's always been a jerk. He gets jerky, he
gets his wife's kind of.
Speaker 3: A pain in the neck too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's another another.
Speaker 2: He's trying to protect him. He's probably at CTE and
he's just a miserable prick. He can be a miserable prick.
Oh dude, Yeah, yes.
Speaker 3: After he got out of rehab, he went up and
like he got the Batavia downs a sponsor a bar.
I mean, who does that? I'll tell you back in
I can appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I want to call it.
Speaker 4: Two thousand and nine or twy ten, I golfed in
the gr Golf Tournament, which was the Foundations that you were,
Thurman's foundation. I golfed with Thermot in the cart for
four hours with Thurmot. This when he was downing a
lot of alcohol. Yeah, so I had a terrible day.
Was he fun the fact that it was a real
bad golfer? And I remember standing up to it to
a shot. He goes, you know what, Pete, you suck
And I said the way he said, I said, you know,
I'm paying for your foundation to be here. Said yes,
and he goes, I'll give you your money back. You
suck so bad.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's awesome. Awesome, that's the great. That's something you'll
never forget. You should have paid him to say that
you did. Basically, it sounds like oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the whole post golf he.
Speaker 2: Was just he was in that, but that had to
make the rest of what hole was this on?
Speaker 3: Please tell me it wasn't whole four?
Speaker 4: Well, it was like it was fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 2: All right, but there's still like three hole he was, Yeah,
but there's three holes left to go and you're in
the cart with him. How was the tension after that?
I don't remember really, Okay, yeah, because I.
Speaker 4: Think I I think I said Barry Sanders was better
than him anyway. I said something like that.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's not gonna help because a little bit.
And they went to the same college, right, and I
think Sanders broke all uh Thurman's record, so I thought.
Speaker 3: Yes, Sander's won the Heisman. Yeah, the following year.
Speaker 2: After and left, you know, right, all right, I may
have dropped it.
Speaker 4: Where's my helmet?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: God? That that would That always pissed him off. That
always pissed him off. All right, we will talk to
you next week, and hopefully your pick is wrong, That's
all I'll say.
Speaker 3: I hope, all right.
Speaker 2: I know you do. I do, I know you do,
but it's it's a well thought out pick. There's you know,
research done and and uh it's not just pulled out
of thin air.
Speaker 4: And good luck with the syndicate, Billy. I'm gonna I'm
interested in what you're doing here. That's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll see. I mean, I I talk a
lot of ship Peter and then and so that is.
But I've discovered, I will say, and I am gonna
do it again, Danny. What am I gonna say? Adderall?
Adderall has been I mean, ship, I'm getting shipped done.
I don't even know I needed to do.
Speaker 4: Are you going to incorporate some of what your mother
does into the into this building?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Maybe I never thought of that. Actually, that's a really
interesting idea because I just went and had reiki done
by Gina Petripolli, who did a fantast job, spent two
hours and reads you and pulls cards before you come in.
I mean, just whether you are into this stuff or not,
it is fine. I'm not gonna say, but I do
believe there's that everything is energy right and your energy
and you got to get your energy right. But she
spent a lot of time. She pulled cards before I
got there, and then after spent almost an hour with
me as tears were running down my face and I'm
trying to hide it. She handed me a tissue. It
was fantastic. I no, maybe I'm too honest. All right, Peter,
always a pleasure. I'm I'm a huge fan. I am
so and I appreciate you uh doing this with us.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Pete.
Speaker 2: All right, Pete, we'll see you. We will take a
moment standing in Q all ready to go? That's right.
You want your picks. You think you know betting, You
think you know what to put in on your parlays, which,
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Speaker 6: She said, it's none of my business, but it breaks my.
Speaker 2: Dropped a dozen sheap bruises in my shop in.
Speaker 6: Car made it up to the truck without breaking day.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, heartache here. Everybody knows you have to speed trapped.
I like the speed trapped down and the reason I'm
not I'm not familiar with Jason is Bell. I got
a great message from a listener on Instagram. He wrote
me saying, Hey, Bill, Kevin mentioned Jason isbel to you
the pod. You gotta check him out. You're like me
and a fan of singer songwriters, and he's considered one
of the best of this generation. Check out, cover me Up,
Speed Trap Town, and True Believer. Let me know what
you think. So I'm at a little theater in Ithaca.
Ethic always gets like some really great shows, and I
think it's because of the colleges, but they have beautiful
theaters down there. I went down. I went to Tennessee
John Hyatt and I love it a couple of times.
Let me know what you think. I saw and it
was incredible. A few weeks later, he put out a
solo album just him and a guitar. I think you'll enjoy.
He also has a band, the four hundred Unit. Songs
like Anxiety and If We Were Vampires, the King of Oklahoma.
I know you're a busy guy, but check him out
if you get a chance. And I thought speed Trap Town,
and the reason I thought that is you and I
are from.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely from speed Trap.
Speaker 2: Cap Maalaysia, parts of New York. And I lived in
a town and this is not a lie, and I
need somebody to verify it from my town. But miss
h Officer Cows of the Pine Pit Planes Police Department,
you know what I mean. Talk about.
Speaker 3: Way. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: He used to sit in his living room because the
speed limit dropped the thirty in the town right before
his house, and he would get you on the radar
from his bayview window right down in main Street and
then walk up to you in the drug store, which
had a soda fountain, the old fashioned soda fountain with
the syrup, and they could and he would walk up
to people and give them a ticket in the drug store.
No bullshit, true story, it occurred. Yep, just letting you know.
So speed Traptown was the thing. But I like this.
Jason isbelt Realizy'll never be all makes me want to
have a cigarette, which is not good.
Speaker 3: His best song is when We Were Close.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think we played that play. Yeah, I think we
played that with you. You're a fan.
Speaker 3: I like that song.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, look at that qualification. I like
that song. Okay, now I'm teasing you. I'm teasing, uh,
your friend and min Yeah, but but you're related somehow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my sister's brother in law.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes no sense.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no it does, Juice, who.
Speaker 6: You asked that? Every time?
Speaker 2: I know, I do it. I just do it for effect.
I know, and I know it's happening because I like to.
Like I don't know why. You see, there's some things
like I get where Letterman would do just really dumb
jokes sometimes because it would amuse him, and I get it.
I get that, and this is a dumb joke and
it amuses me, and I don't know why. Uh, Juice,
how did the weekend go for you? I don't recall
we went three and two, okay, still winning winning record.
Speaker 6: But Pittsburgh not. I mean, they dominated the first half
and then they really fourth quarter they fell off.
Speaker 2: But are there some bad calls against them in that game?
It felt like there was, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they just didn't man that. The the Packers
just look really good in the second half, made no mistakes. Uh,
I mean Rogers, he's uh, he doesn't have much much.
Speaker 2: To work with.
Speaker 6: I mean he's got dk Metcalf and that is it.
It's it's tough. And then the Saints we lost that one.
That was just a bad, bad call, that was the
wrong side and uh, Spencer Rattler's done and there he's
uh he's bench for the rest of the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I go with Tyler shuck good. Wasn't impressive.
I guess no, what do we?
Speaker 6: Uh Giants?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he tried to he tried to walk off that injury.
Speaker 2: I've read a just a headline today Juice about Cam
Scattabow saying it it was way worse than it looked.
Speaker 3: Yes, how could that be because I heard it looked
so gruesome.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: There's just you know, you don't know until you get
in there and look at the the ligaments and all that,
and they just I mean, he's he's gonna be out
at least a year. So I wouldn't be shocked if
he doesn't play next year, because I think somebody else
just had that and they just got back and they
had it around the same time as him. So if
you're talking a year recovery, I mean, he's you know,
week eight of next season, you know, but he's tough.
I mean, he'll do He was actually in the Giants
facility today, you know, in his wheelchair, like still you know,
wanting to you know, do stuff. I mean, the guy
just he loves football, playing the scout team, he's in
that position.
Speaker 3: Well, he tried to walk it off the injury he had,
like I mean, it was gruesome and there were like
tears and stuff out there that nobody knew about.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, hopefully it.
Speaker 6: Would have been put this. It would have been better
if he just straight up broke his ankle.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What do we think is gonna happen to him? Uh
in the future? Here will it be able to come
back full?
Speaker 6: The way he runs his style? I mean it's you
really have no idea. You know, he's a bigger guy,
so I don't know how the ankle would hold up.
I mean really, you don't.
Speaker 2: You don't know, right, all right, So we're looking at
week nine of the twenty twenty five NFL season. It
kicks off tomorrow night or tonight. As you're listening to this,
Ravens Dolphins, and the Dolphins have been hot and cold.
The AFC East went won, every every team won.
Speaker 6: It was just it was it was a weird Sunday
all around. There was the average margin of victory for
games was eighteen and a half points, so that's a
pretty shitty day. There weren't many close games, yeah, and favorites.
Favorites went eleven and two. The only ones winning underdogs
winning were the Jets, who we had we were on.
I told you, yeah, he did me and then who else?
Who's the other? Oh the Miami beat the Falcons?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, hyde, Yeah, one.
Speaker 6: One day they're great, next day they're they're not. I mean,
it's just it's strange.
Speaker 2: I would like the Ravens and this's just some paper,
but I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the Ravens bounce back. Jackson is playing,
that's confirmed. Uh so you know they need this game,
and if you look at their schedule coming up, I
think they they will win that division, which is crazy
to say that they're two and five now and they're
gonna win. They're gonna win that division. They're the favorites
to win the division.
Speaker 4: Now wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so we're.
Speaker 6: Gonna rip off. We're gonna look back and they're gonna
be They're gonna be seven and five and no time.
Look at the I see you got your phone out there.
What's their remaining their next four games?
Speaker 2: Who's this?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: The Ravens. The Ravens have put up well they got
obviously they have Miami coming up, and so I was
just looking. I was just looking at FanDuel here.
Speaker 6: So let me just what they got it at for
the division.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't have that in front of me.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not, but the Ravens are probably,
I mean, they're you gotta help the raven If you're
a Bills fit, you gotta help the Ravens lose tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, that's the that's the bottom. Yes, because the
Ravens they come back with Lamar and then they're just
gonna go on a trail of wins.
Speaker 6: They're gonna be They're gonna be seven and five. They're
two and five now they're gonna win five in a row.
Speaker 3: Fuck.
Speaker 2: Uh, give me some of your your locks this week?
Who do you like?
Speaker 6: I mean, actually, now that we said it, I know
we just just trashed him. But we're gonna go back.
We're Atlanta five and a half against the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they're taking on the Patriots. Okay, so that's
a one o'clock game Sunday. You you like this the
Falcons five and a half giving five and a half? Yes,
they're getting, get getting getting five and a half, So
this game is yeah.
Speaker 6: Yep, but whenever they get, whenever they get. We saw
this earlier in the year when they lost thirty to
nothing to Carolina. Then they came out the week after
and they beat the Redskins, So I think we're gonna
see something similar there. I don't think they're you know,
I don't necessarily think they're gonna win, but I like
the five and a half. That's just that's too many points.
Speaker 2: There's another game that could be kind of interesting, and
I don't know where you stand on this one if
it's even one of your picks this week, but the
Colts Steelers is It's an intriguing game to me.
Speaker 6: Steelers plus three and a half. Okay, we're fading the
Colts again, who are led by Jonathan Taylor. I don't
even even know who their quarterback is, but Jonathan Taylor,
Jonathan Taylor is that team. I mean, that's why they
are as good as they are. The Steelers though, again,
I like them at home, catching over a field goal
and they need this game, yeah, the last two, and
I think it's a huge bounce back spot for him.
And we're just waiting for this Jones game to show up.
And I think we see it Sunday. It's their first
out only their second outdoor game of the season, so
they're playing outside. You know, they've lived in a dome
all season, so I just think that that could definitely
have an effect on them. And I think I could
see Jones a couple of picks, playing like shit like
he should and always has. And we'll take the Steelers
plus three and a.
Speaker 2: Half, Steelers plus three and a half, all right, who
else do you like? I'm going to throw another one
out there? I asked that, and then they see the
schedule and I like, this is another intriguing one because
I think the Texans have a great defense, I really do.
Speaker 3: I think they have an unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Defense, and the Broncos just seem to be kind of
on a tear. Here.
Speaker 6: What do you think we're going? And I don't know
if you're reading my sheet here, that is the lack
of the week.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, good.
Speaker 6: Texans minus one and a half. Yeah, we're gonna go
with the better defense and the better quarterback here that
that defense. Houston's defense is awesome, maybe the best in
the league.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I mean, their their defense is unbelievable.
And look, the Broncos have been very impressive, but next time,
I just.
Speaker 6: Don't see I don't see them doing much here. Okay,
Patrick certains out, so and I think Nico Collins is back.
So C J. Stroud should have a full company. Yeah,
you know, yep, so they should. They should do well,
and I believe they will win that game. And I
like that. That is the lack of the week. And
that's gonna be an ugly game too. And under I'm
not playing it, but if I would lean that under,
I think it's like thirty nine and a half. That's
gonna be half. You're gonna see like seventeen fourteen, seventeen
ten thirteen.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, low scoring. Yeah, I like this. I'm tuned
into Jews now, I'm getting that. I'm all right, yeah,
squeezing the juice, squeezing the juice. What else juice? What
do we else we got? I know there's a game when.
Speaker 6: We're going to go. This is a division game. And
again the Division game. Uh, you always side with the underdog,
especially if they're catching over a touchdown. We're going to
take the Minnesota like, wow, plus eight and a.
Speaker 3: Half in Detroit.
Speaker 2: Correct, that is a one o'clock game. Yep, Vikings Lions.
Speaker 6: Okay, JJ McCarthy starting. Uh, Detroit secondary still really banged up.
I expect Justin Jefferson to have kind of his breakout
game of the of the year, and I think he
could really torch that that secondary of and I'll take
I'll take over a touchdown all day.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, look at this. Yeah, yeah, because I think a
lot of people will go the other way on that game,
just on paper. I don't I don't know. Uh, we
have to ask about this one. The four game Sunday
Taylor Swift in Buffalo. You're gonna be.
Speaker 6: There, Yeah, I'm going.
Speaker 2: No, I wish I was going.
Speaker 6: You want to go? Non ext I have an extra ticket.
Speaker 2: I'm good, good, Yeah, buddy, I got a ton of
shit to do this weekend. Uh.
Speaker 6: And I just keep me too, But I'm still going.
Speaker 2: That's why you know you're better, You're better than me.
I can't I can't say anything but four twenty five
Chiefs Bills. How do you see this from playing now? Oh,
don't do that. I saw the hesitation pull back in
his chair and he shook his head to the left.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what I mean just by if I
had to pick right now, I think the Chiefs win
the game. I think they're playing better football now, the
better team. However, Buffalo does very well against them in
the regular season.
Speaker 2: This is a sales job. Is a sales job. Anybody
I know who in sales of any level at anything,
they softened it for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what you really like? You? I mean, Kansas City
has been on a tear. You got to remember though,
they've played three straight home games, so now they're going
on the road, and then those games at home they've
outscored eighty nine to twenty four. You know, they're coming
off their defenses not allowed you know, over twenty points.
So I think you'll see some regression there. You know, Allen,
as long as he he can move, they can't. You know,
I like to see him action, you know, with his legs.
You know, win that game. But you know the Bills
will be as good as Alan will let them. I mean,
Cook was awesome on Sunday, you know, can he repeat that?
I mean that that Chiefs defenses is good, So, you know,
I think they're gonna need something something else. But I
think for the Bills, Uh, Pacheco, I don't think he's playing, right, Danny.
Speaker 3: I don't think so he's out right. I think he's out.
Speaker 6: So that should help Buffalo, you know. I mean, don't
you know they're not going to get some mahomes anyway?
I don't think. But you know, I just I'm not
gonna take that. I'm probably gonna put something live in,
you know, being there watching it see what happens is
always fun for that and a half or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would be fun. That would be fun.
All right? What else you got? Is there anything else
that we're missing that's on the big board for NFL
Week number nine?
Speaker 6: That's really I think we covered. Uh yeah, we cut
have everything that I got.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cardinals Cowboys looks like a snooze fest to me,
And I don't know why, And it's probably not. It's
probably not, is it.
Speaker 6: No, that'll be that'll be some points too. Is Murray?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 6: Is Murray playing?
Speaker 2: Is I don't know if Murray's playing.
Speaker 3: No, I think he's back I think this week.
Speaker 6: I think, even dating back to high school, I don't
think he's ever lost in Cowboys Stadium. High school college,
he played in the Texas State championship there, he played
there in college a couple of times, Bowl games. He's
never lost in that stadium.
Speaker 3: Wow, Sunday night game.
Speaker 2: Okay? Is that the Sunday night game? I'm sorry, said
that should be?
Speaker 6: That's should be probably definitely be some points in there,
because once again, Dallas is an over delight.
Speaker 3: I have it as Monday at eight fifteen. What are
you looking at?
Speaker 2: Monday, November third, Dallas Cardinals. Looks that's Monday night. It's
Monday night. He was wrong.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I look at the wrong spot. Thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 2: You come off all.
Speaker 4: It's Sunday night.
Speaker 2: And I buy in because it's not. You're right.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't buy in like an idiot, because
I'm an idiot. No, that is that is that is
Monday night.
Speaker 2: It's fucking it's fine. No one's keeping score. Juice has
the kid.
Speaker 6: Kid's good. He's doing well. He was six weeks last Friday.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that was cool.
Speaker 6: And you know he's growing like a weed. Uh.
Speaker 2: And the birthday party with the barbie stuff and all that.
Speaker 6: Still I'm still picking up ship.
Speaker 2: Was there glitter involved in any way?
Speaker 6: And I mean there's just they're the amount of stuff
they put in there, the glitter, the beads, the fucking
little uh, I don't know, whatever you call it, the
fucking streamer ship. I mean that stuff. I'll be picking
that stuff up for two weeks, two weeks. Every time
I think I.
Speaker 2: Got two weeks, I find Christmas is coming, and then
you're gonna forget. You're not even gonna know what you're
picking up. Could be a Christmas thing. Birthday.
Speaker 6: He got so much stuff. You know, it was great
that we had a We had an awesome time. You know,
the adults even party, they were having had a good
old time.
Speaker 2: How about how about the uh did anybody get drunk
and go out on the swing set or jungle gym
or whatever that is?
Speaker 6: No? No, there was, uh you know, a couple of
kids went out there and played, but no no adults.
Speaker 2: Adults.
Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody everybody's good. But no, I mean definitely there was.
Some beers were drunk and half a bottle of my
bourbon was gone too. I found a couple of it
was a barbie party, so that there was some pink
Whitney shooters. I found in the uh people were doing
as well, so that was fun. We had a good
old time.
Speaker 2: Man, very good. Well, congratulations on all the all the
success the picks they're paying for birthday party for birthday.
Speaker 6: We have not We have not had a losing week.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 6: No, our locks are seven seven and one. We've only
lost one lock.
Speaker 2: Okay, seven to one. I like it. That's pretty good.
And there's a lock.
Speaker 6: What are your guys picks for that. I want to
hear your picks for the Bills game.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I took Kansas. I took Kansas City by
two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I'm a homer. I'm going with the Bills. I am,
and I'm gonna say it's gonna be something like twenty
three seventeen, low scoring, or maybe I'll go higher. Maybe
I'll say forty four thirty eight. I hope you're right.
Forty four to thirty eight. That'd be fun Kansas.
Speaker 3: That'd be a fun.
Speaker 2: Game, Kansas City. And then in the final moment, Josh
just right over into the corner of the end zone,
right into sekres arms and start.
Speaker 3: Start the Kevin Bacon parade all as well.
Speaker 2: Two feet down touchdown, We don't even need to review it.
Speaker 6: It actually the regular season game last year. I was
at that that one as well. That was like the
Allen play of the year. Remember when he ran it
in from like the forty yards. Yeah, you know, and
that was maybe the loudest I've ever heard that Bill
Stadium met Well.
Speaker 3: Wow, a lot of people said that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, that was that was that was a cool,
cool moment to be there.
Speaker 2: All right, juice, Well, we'll see how we do, but
we won't blame anybody.
Speaker 6: Hey, put him in. What are we uh? What are
we at for the payout? Usually drum that up as well.
Speaker 3: So if you go with all these, if you bet
ten dollars, let's say, okay, you're going to hit eight
hundred and forty two dollars on ten bucks. Yes, on
ten dollars. So that's on what Okay, So let's let's
review this is on FanDuel. So if you take the
Falcons getting five at New England, if you take the
Texans laying one and a half hosting the Broncos and
take the under, if you take Pittsburgh getting three at
home against Indianapolis, Minnesota on the road with eight, getting
eight and a half in Detroit and Kansas City, losing
a point and a half in Buffalo, and of course
taking me over with Arizona at Dallas. You're gonna get
unless you I don't know if you made a pick
or if you just picked the over on that one,
that would.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the over of the doubts. But I never I
never picked Buffalo.
Speaker 3: Okay, you never picked Buffalo. Okay, So that would be
four hundred and forty four dollars if you bet ten dollars.
Speaker 6: Really found we're losing four hundred dollars taking Buffalo out
of there.
Speaker 3: Really yeah?
Speaker 2: Interesting?
Speaker 3: Damn yeah. Fandels, Fandels, they're little selfish with the money. Yeah, yeah,
I know, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what do you say about the parlays may go away?
Speaker 2: So the parlays they're talking about trying to get them
to go away because they feel like what people are betting.
You know, let's say for basketball, Lebron's gonna have ten
and the name Curry, I'll have twenty five in the
fourth quarter or whatever, and they did have that one
player who goes, hey, man, don't bet on me tonight
I'm gonna pull myself out of the games. Yeah, and
I'm gonna do nine, so I go. The mafia has
ruined everything. The bigger thing with this, And look, it's
like insider trading if you know who's not playing in
a certain game, right, it is, and you can place
your bets and it does affect that sort of stuff
if it's if you have inside knowledge, right, And it's
more in the college game because the NFL you have
to release that and primarily because of the betting, so
that I don't know, the most interesting part to this
whole gambling scandal to me is the underground poker and
the fact that they were able to hack. Because this
will never happened in Vegas. Those card deck machines are
checked all the time, they're updated all the time, they
get the latest software. If you I'm in an underground
game in Miami or New York City and you're pulling
in some big guys, it's cool to say, Hey, I
got to play poker with Lebron James, for example. He
wasn't one of these guys, but you know, like Chauncey Billups, right.
But at the same time, I'm going I have wanted
X ray glasses since I saw them in the back
of the Bazuka Joe comic and they showed you with
the swirly things that you could look through a girl's skirts,
your slip or underwear or whatever. And I've never, ever, ever,
ever been able to get them. And how does the
fucking FBI find that they don't even have it? It's
the moth. I never understood X ray glasses, an X
ray contact lenses unbelievable. And then all the just the
technology was stuff. I mean, it's like the Wild West
with Wi Fi these guys and uh yeah good.
Speaker 6: They were wearing though they were only they were only
good for those cars that certain deck.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think you're right, and I think also they
had some readers on phones that could read the deck.
And there were also guys who when the dealer flipped
over the the the flop cards, could tell exactly where
the deck was cut and pretty much know who everybody had. Look.
I don't know. I you go in there, and I
don't know what the buying in these things. I know
there were buy ins locally that were two thousand, but
I don't know buy ins in cities like Miami and
New York. It's unbelievable. I have no idea, but yeah,
so they get busted and I'm like, okay, who got
hurt here? The only bad part is the integrity of
the sport. Well yeah, that's the part that I don't like.
But they're fucking underground poker game. Nobody fucking should care.
But they'd care because they're not getting the taxes on it.
That's why they care. Yeah, yeah, of course, I mean right,
But it's it's the integrity of this is you do
have to start to question this a little bit. How
do you protect yourself if the mafia gets to anybody
and they're calling the mobsters, but by definition, that's like
violent criminals. I'm pretty sure. Look it up. Yeah I
don't know who they were, but they're calling I go boy,
it's a whole new mafia, isn't.
Speaker 3: But the weird thing about this, this whole situation is
there's now people have gone through Instagram and have created
videos where the Golden State Warriors are sitting there like
in a ten point game, talking behind towels, going on, man,
don't we don't cover here?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: There's also discussions about certain head coaches in college who
want to stroke the alumni, so they'll kick a field goal.
If they know that, Let's say the points spread like
forty three and a half and they're only up by
forty two at the end of the game, they'll go
and kick a field goal to try to cover for
the alumni who bet on them. It's certain things like
that influencing.
Speaker 6: Oh, they know the spread. College coaches the spread.
Speaker 2: I would yeah, I would believe that totally. I looked
to me, I think that the booster clubs in the
colleges or or the got the alumni who gave back
ten million dollars to the team or donate whatever he did.
That's the guy that controls everything. Yeah, if he wants
the head coach out.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, tell me look at that. Look what happened
at LSU. Look what happened to ped State two weeks ago. Yeah, right,
Brian Kelly, fifty four million dollars buyout. Yeah, you're gonna
pay me fifty four million dollar golden parachute to suck,
to suck. By way, he didn't even suck. No, he
just didn't win a national championship and he lost three
in a row. And he was he was a prick
to the alumni, so get rid of him. See right,
here's fifty four million dollars. Have a good time.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. The amount of money is crazy. And I
think Rex Ryan, I was asked or pressed on ESPN,
are you interested in that job? He goes fifty four
million dollars? Hell, I am right and you but it
is a lot of dancing to the alumni. And whoever
is making the donate to these teams, it's you know,
or pushing an il deals.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 3: The reason these guys got caught, though, is because the
parameter is built into like fan duel and DraftKings. When
a bunch of people are putting thousands of dollars on
the idea that rosiers not play well.
Speaker 2: Okay, but that tips it off and then they got
to go like the underground poker.
Speaker 3: To me, is not anything to really understand what that's
all about.
Speaker 2: I get it. I mean, yeah, it's taxes, it's a
tax issue.
Speaker 3: Playing well lakeshptel, I'm sorry, we got other things in
this country to worry about. Ship let's let's let's.
Speaker 2: Worry about the NBA.
Speaker 3: But I would go, let's protect the integrity. You know,
you know, you do have to protect the integrity sport.
That's commerce absolutely Okay, Well let's not celebrate like we
just like you know, bombed Russia or something like that
that I would want to do that just an example, I.
Speaker 6: Don't integrity of the game would be in place because
these guys are making so much money per game that
why would they risk And you.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm with you, but I mean, just to see
here Terry Rozier's story is it's interesting, right, I mean,
and the NBA pays I Norton in amounts of money.
I don't know what his salary was, but I'm sure
it was somewhere in the millions at least. Oh yes,
And you know, so to your point, I would say, yeah,
it makes sense, But then we have that, you.
Speaker 6: Know, Yeah, say if his salary was you know, twenty
five million or something and he's making you know, two
hundred and seventy thousand dollars a game, that means someone
would have to pay him more than that to right
fuck around with one game. Get what I'm saying. So,
you know, and if you see a bet come in for.
Speaker 2: Or or there's nothing and he's just friends with these
guys and goes, hey, man, I'm gonna put myself out.
I partied with you guys too much last thight. I'm
gonna fake an injury. Don't bet on me. And you
know that gets out. I mean it could be something well, yeah.
Speaker 3: Something inno in other words, like he tells one of
his buddies here, I'm not playing to night. Yeah, And
then I was like, oh, Terry's not playing tonight, man,
put some money on there. I mean it could be
something as innocent as.
Speaker 2: That, right exactly. So, uh, Juice always a pleasure. We'll
see how it goes.
Speaker 6: Thank you man, yep, appreciate it, guys. Enjoy and good
luck to the good luck to the bills. This uh
this Sunday, I'll do my best to uh willem to victory.
Speaker 2: Please cheer mon, please cheer them on. All right, there,
he goes, Juice Fields, father of Ford Fields. Right, yes,
there it is. Uh yeah, I find this very interesting.
The parlay's going away, and I think that's why, or
there's a push to make them a push.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna go away. That's too much.
There's too much I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: I mean the problem is it's money and you have
sort of law and you're all in bed with it.
You got Lebron James of the of the NBA, who
is the ones under the spotlight with this doing commercials
for DraftKings.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, did you see when the story broke on ESPN?
Did you see what?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: So there I get up on ESPN. Mike Greenberg's talking
about like the integrity of the game and the bottom line,
it says ESPN bet right, so someone of the controls
to get that downe that get take that off. In
the middle of his discussion, all of a sudden, there
the bottom of the screen goes blank. No, you can't
hear it, but you can see it, and so it
goes viral. Hey, ESPNA, thick down the bet.
Speaker 2: Part because everybody's making money off of it, and the
leagues are into it of course, because it brings more
money in, It brings more eyes. It takes the casual
fan and makes them a fan or or I don't know,
maybe it doesn't, but it sure makes them a fan
of the betting, and they get maybe addicted or they
have enjoyment, and they come back and you can do
it from your couch, and you can do it against
your buddies and it's easy.
Speaker 3: Well, there was a conspiracy theory with the last Luca trade.
So when Luka Doncik was traded from the Dallas Mavericks
to the Lakers, which why would you trade in your
within your conference? Alonnoyed to a team that has a
history of winning, Right, We're gonna send him to lebronze
team that makes no SAIDs you know, why why would
you do that? Because the story is that after Mark
Cuban sold the team, the story was that they wanted
to they want the new owners want to build a
casino outside the stadium in Dallas, and Texas is against
you know, casino gambling. So the idea is, Okay, well,
we're gonna tank our team and then we're gonna move
to Vegas if you don't give us what we want.
Oh look now I don't. I'm not saying that that's
the case. This is a theory that came out after
this tree because why would you trade Luke? And then
after the and then the draft lottery happens. I guess
who gets the number one overall pick. Not one of
the worst teams in basketball, not the second first basketball team, nothing, No,
the Dallas freaking Mavericks.
Speaker 2: Get it? Why because they want him to stay there.
Speaker 3: No, they're like, hey, you know, if you treat you,
send Luca out. You know, we'll take care of you.
Speaker 2: You know. You think that's a different theory. Yeah, okay, gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 3: Like the league was evolved possibly.
Speaker 2: Well, you never know. I mean, look, we've always wondered.
People have often said it's rigged, it's this, it's that,
it's entertainment. I have no idea. Well, I enjoy it.
I like to think it's not. I like to think
it's the last meritocracy on the planet.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, like two pure meritocracies.
Speaker 2: And what are they?
Speaker 3: Sports? Yeah, and sales.
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. Yeah, that's true sports. And if
you can talk shit better than the other person, I'm
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