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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, this is Christina and Carmen and this is

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another episode of a Spooky Tales podcasts for all things

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as Spooky true crime Hunter places myths legends in Latin America,

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but not today. Today is a book club episode. Book Club,

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book Club, book Club. That's right, we are finally recording

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our book club episode for The Bewitching by Syria Garcia.

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And just a reminder about how these work. Some months

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before the episode comes out, we say, hey, we're reading

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this book next. Whoever wants to read with us can,

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and then we send out discussion questions. Whoever wants to

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answer them can, and then we just recamp the book

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and do discussion questions. At the end, there's like a

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brief five minute spoiler free section where we do like

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not even five minutes, but yeah that like two minutes. Yeah,

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so yeah, that's uh, that's how these book club episodes work.

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And uh yeah, hopefully we got some answers from people.

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If not, we didn't, will we'll talk about it. And

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I feel like a lot of people listen to it

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after they read the book. A lot of people, yeah, yeah,

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or some people. Some people listen to it and then

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based on that decide if they want to read the

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book or not. I have done that with other podcasts. No, yeah,

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I get it too. I do that all the time

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where I'm like, do I want to read this book?

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And then I'll listen to a full last spoiler recaps,

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full recap, and then I'm like, yeah, I do want

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to read it. I do the same thing with movies. Yeah, yeah,

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So I love a recap. I love I love a spoiler,

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A recap full of spoilers. We do, we do, that's

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just yeah famously. Yes. Yeah, speaking of spoilers, are you

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ready for a spoiler free synopsis? Yeah? Quick little summary. So,

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the Bewit Chain, by our favorite Yeah, follows three women

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in three different timelines. Alba in nineteen hundreds Mexico, Beatrice

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during the Great Depression in Massachusetts, and me Nedva in

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the nineteen nineties. Who's connected to both women because she

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is Alba's great granddaughter and she attends the same university

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as Beatrice. She is the lynchpin between the timelines. Yes, yeah,

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and then Beatrice is also the focus of Nerva's thesis.

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She's a grad gradically yeah yeah, And all women are

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facing dark forces, dark witchy forces that are possibly connected. Yeah,

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don't don't don't. Yeah, And that is our spoiler free synopsis.

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If you don't want any spoilers, now is the time

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to leave. Yeah, but before we do the recap, did

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you picture anyone any I did? I did? Okay, did

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you cast anyone in the movie of the Bewitching? I

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feel like Alba. I didn't have a specific actress in mind,

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but I was picturing like someone from the you know

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how they have novels that are based on like the

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old times, like something like that's when I pictured. But

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I don't think I pictured anyone specific, did you I

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know exactly what you mean, and I pictured the same Okay, Okay,

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you know what I pictured? You know the you know

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the cover of the Escianda. Oh my gosh, kind of

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like that. No, we're the same, because that's who I

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pictured for Alba's Okay, okay, wow wow twins. Yeah, and

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then if you're for Beatrice, I don't think really, I

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don't really think I pictured anybody actually for Beatrice. But

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do you know I pictured them? Yeah? H Do you

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remember a Night of the Living Dead? Night of the

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Living Dead? No, I mean I remember it, but I

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don't think I remember Okay, Well, there's like a distraught

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white woman in Night of the Living Dead. She's the

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one with her the brother. They go in the beginning

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to the parents' grave. That's where the zombies come out

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of their brother's like they're I get you anyway, her,

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that's who I pictured. Okay, I'm just picturing like someone

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like a like a plane, you know, middle of the

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road white woman from the Midwest. Oh, she's not like

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I wouldn't say plane, but she is. Oh nope, I

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didn't picture someone like that. Really feature someone more, you

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know what. You know how I'm picturing. I mean, I

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don't want to say plain like offensive, but I'm picturing

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kind of like okay, and I don't I know you

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didn't watch Euphoria, but everyone has seen clips here and there,

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and you know, I think her name is Judd or

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Mod No. Jud is a dad Apatow, the director. His

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daughter is a Euphoria mod I believe is her. I

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think her name is mod. I'm picturing her as Beatrice.

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I see it, I see it. Yeah, what about for Ginny?

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Did you picture anyone for Ginny? No? For some reason,

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I'm picturing like a redhead, like maybe someone like, oh,

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what's her name? From The Stranger Things and she's like

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kind of more petty sync. Yeah, yeah, we're on the

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same page. Oh yeah. And then I don't think I

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pictured anyone like in my head specifically, No I was

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someone like bitchy, real bitchy looking for uh. I'm like, yeah,

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the younger version of what's her name that's in like

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Midnight Mass and all the movies. But she was like

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the evil woman in Mass. Okay, yeah, yeah, I know

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who time. Yeah, just so the people listening can know

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Samantha Sloyan. Maybe even Angela from the Office, you know what. Yeah,

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maybe even bitch vibe. Yeah. And then the men, I

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didn't picture anybody, No, same, same, yeah, except for the

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guy that she supposedly ran off with. Oh sometimes. Yeah,

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I pictured bad Bunny, but I think it's because I

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had been listening to that's my number one artist this year.

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That's hilarious. Wow. For all the white men I pictured,

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like asi variation of Jonah Is from Superstar. Oh oh

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my god, what the fuck? This is scary because I

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did too, because he just has like that nineteen thirties face,

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you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, generic white guy

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for Noah Noah. I pictured for Noah like a young

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Leonardo DiCaprio, but like snobby looking, you know, like what

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the hair slips back and put him in a suit.

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So he's not tall enough to be Noah. No, you're right, No,

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you know what? Who would be good? Did you ever

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watch No? Probably not the pit or Er. No, it's

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funny because his name is Noah no Wiley. But here

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let me show you. This is actually pretty spot on.

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Oh yeah, because his character is rich and snobby, but

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he becomes a doctor. He comes from like a rich

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family and he when he becomes a doctor, they don't

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like that. They think he should be continuing the family business.

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Oh okay, while you're looking for that, you know who

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I pictured for. What's his name? The other college douchebag

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in minas Timeline. Oh, the other guy Conrad. Okay, what's

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his name? Glenn? Glenn? Is it Glenn? Oh, Glenn Powell? Yeah,

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but from Screaming Queens. Yes, yes, Chad, I could see that. Yeah,

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so he's not in purple clothes here, but just picture

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him in purple clothes. Okay, I could see that. I

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could see that. Yeah, okay, so we've cast it almost Yeah,

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what about he though, Oh, I actually didn't even think

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about here. I am kind of picturing oh my god,

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what's his name? Just because he seemed kind of like

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funny and chill, you know, love Hard, the guy from

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that movie Love Hard. Yeah, I don't know his name,

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the guy who does the CAF machine Jimmy Yang. Yes, yeah,

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he's a yeah him, yeah, yeah, you know what. Yeah,

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maybe yeah, and more serious, kind of like that serious

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Asian actor who sometimes is a doctor. Really you picture

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someone serious. I kind of did for some reason. Really Okay, well,

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hence who you he was always trying to convince her

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to party. That's why I'm like, he's not serious, you

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know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's why I originally

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pictured Oh my god, what's his name? Oh, Daniel day Kim.

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maybe version okay, Like you're just like, oh, yeah, I

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haven't seen a young picture of him. That's why I've

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only seen him like, no, no, you're right saying, but

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maybe yeah, okay, okay, now that everyone's cast wait Neva,

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oh my god, okay, you know I pictured specifically sees

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and one of only mergers in the building. Mabel Gomez. Yeah,

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that's why I picture agree. Yeah cool, and then she

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gets like worse, you know, this season goes on instead

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of getting better. So that's why I said specifically season one. Yes, no,

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I concur then yeah cool. All right, Okay, everyone's been cast. Okay,

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And so we have three timelines going on in the book, right,

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and they are alternating, but we're gonna go through one

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storyline at a time, one timeline at a time, because

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it will be confusing to go back and forth. But

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that's how you read the book. I think to just

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recap it, that would be confusing. So yeah, keep that

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in mind as we're recapping, because like, as something happens

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in Nedva's story, it's connected to Betty's story or Beatrice,

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you know what I mean. So and obviously we won't

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have that as we go through the recap. Okay. So

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the story begins in nineteen eighty eight with Minerva remembering

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something that her visa Wila Alba, who she calls Nana

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Alba and will refer to her that way used to say.

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And she used to say, back then, when I was

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a young woman, there were still witches and I just

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love that and I'm sorry. When I read that line,

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I was like, I'm okay. I was always going to

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get this anyway again because it's Cela mon Garcia and

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she is my If she writes it, I'm buying it. Yeah.

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But when I read that line, I was like, I'm convinced.

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If I hadn't already been convinced, if you need a reason, yeah,

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those words would have convinced me. They're like right there,

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like it's like the first line. Yeah. Yeah, then when

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I was young, I could write the witches. Yeah. So yeah.

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She's at at her university, Stone Ridge, taking in the

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fall atmosphere when she hears a cry and she thinks

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it's like a peacock or an owl since the hangout

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on campus. Whatever. It's the end of the semester and

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she's doing her rounds because she is a I think

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they're called resident advisors. She's like one of the supervisors

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of the ras. And besides being an RA, she also

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has a scholarship and she works in the language lab.

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So she's burnt out. She's a burnt out, girly, stressed, depressed.

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and so she has to do all these things to

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continue her education. But obviously it's gonna leave to burn out. Yeah. Yeah,

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she's going through it. So because of everything, she feels

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like she's behind on her thesis. And at the same time,

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she's kind of used to juggling a lot of things

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because when she was back in Mexico she used to

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help take care of Nanaba, who lived to be one

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hundred and one one hundred and one. But you know,

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it's like that undiagnosed ADHD situation where you're doing so

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much because you need to be doing so much other

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why is you're depressed, But then you do so much

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that you your body is now it's like a side

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for now. Yeah, yeah, it's And then you lay on

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the couch for like a month, Yes, doing nothing. Yes,

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it's not healthy. I don't recommend not at all sidetrack

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about DHD. You can cut out if you want, but no,

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never I was. I was with our friend Nana the

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other day and we were we had driven to San

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Francisco for in Better with the Rite for their live show.

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we we didn't eat. I think we had eight before,

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both of us separately, so we weren't hungry on the way.

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And then we get there and then she's like, should

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we eat before? But we didn't have enough time whatever,

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and then I was like, oh, no, I'm not. I

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was like I'm not. I was like, I'm barely starting

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to get hungry. And I was like I usually wait

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home starving to eat. And then she's like because she

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she was like no with ADHD, like I took like

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C last year, two years ago, and she's like, yeah,

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that's because your neurodiverg And I was like what, And

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then I was you not heard that word before. No,

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I've heard that word, but I hadn't realized in relations

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to you to eating, to my eating habits, because I

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literally wait until she's like, yeah, you're you're diet, you're

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eating cues or all messed up. And she's like, I

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always bring snacks in me everywhere because if I don't

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want to get hungry, she has snacks. Now you did something,

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it's true, Yeah, well she was prepared. Yeah, yeah, I

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guess she learned that in therapy. Wow, this is a

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tool A tool that she and her toolkit. Yeah yeah,

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I literally wait until i'm starving to I don't know

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any other way to function. I did the same thing too,

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when I have to pee, I feel like it's a

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reward and this doesn't make any sense. So no, not

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you making that fas Okay, I used to feel like

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that more before. Now I really just go pee. But

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I used to be like, Okay, after I finish this sentence,

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I can go. I finished, yes, yes, and that again,

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it's all related to damn in my experience. To add again,

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we're not diagnosing anyone. We're just saying so in your experience,

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I did diagnose me, Minerva and you okay, yeah yeah.

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So anyway, Yeah, she's not doing her round, and she

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stops by one of the residence dorms check their summer

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stay paperwork, and turns out she hates his phone. This

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is Conrad. Conrad and Conrad's are typical annoying douche drowning

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in his privilege, and Mineva thinks that Conrad's annoyingness pushed

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his ex roommate Thomas to leave after winter break. Thomas

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never came back after that, and so Mineva's inspecting Conrad's

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dorm and she finds out Thomas left a few boxes behind,

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and we also get the hint that maybe there was

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a little something between Minettva and Conrad because of how

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they interact together, and later on we find out that

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they made out. Confirms yeah. And so then later Minetva's

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friend he There, comes over. They chat, we learned the

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topic of Minneva's thesis and also about her love of

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weird horror. So Mineva's doing her thesis on Beatrice Tremblay,

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an obscure horror author who Mineva discovered through Lovecraft and

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through her research. Minetteva comes across and I'm gonna call

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her Betty now because that's how she's usually called Betty

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instead of Beatrice. Yeah, Mineva comes across Betty's only published novel,

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The Vanishing, and her plan for the thesis was to

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look into the autobiographical elements of The Vanishing and tied

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together with New England's history and folklore, which sounds super interesting,

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sounds fascinating, very very and she was inspired to do

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this because on the first edition of The Vanishing there's

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a no one on the back that says was based

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on a true story. Also In some other letters that

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Betty wrote to other authors, she mentions that mi Nedva

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also felt called to Betty because the vanishing reminded her

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of something that happened to her Nana Alba when she

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was young, a disappearance tied to witchcraft. And this brings

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us to Carolyn Yates. Carolyn Yate, motherfucking Carolyn, who min

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Neeva found out has a personal archive of Betty's papers

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and letters. Min Neva's been calling Carolyn secretary to try

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to meet with her, with no luck. But the next

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night in min Neevah goes to a party that he

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they'll peer pressure her into going social anxiety and she

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doesn't like parties, so she doesn't really want to be there. Yeah,

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she does end up leaving when it's too much, and

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on her way out she runs into a drunk guy

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and this ends up being Carolyn's grandson, Noah Yates. Noah

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offers Minetta bout a ride for miss driver because they're rich.

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Who has drivers, you know? And he drunkenly invents her

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to brunch the next day and she shows up in

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a ballsy move. She shows up, Yeah, nobody thought she would,

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but she eats too. She needs to for her thesis,

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and she's a go getter despite her anxiety. So min

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Neva shows up to brunch the next day and Carolyn

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tries to brush her away because this happens often where

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Noah is drunk and invites girls over, but he's still

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a sleep when they show up, so she's like, you

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should just go. He's not going to wake up. And

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she's like, actually, I'm here to talk to you, and

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she's like what, But anyway, she explains all her effort

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trying to get in touch with her to talk about

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Betty's archive or to let her basically look into Betty's

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archive for thee says, and so Minerva does make a

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good impression on Carolyn, you know, with her work ethics,

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studious studiousness. And so she makes a deal with min

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Neeva that Minetva I can stop buying to look at

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the archive as long as she makes appointments with her.

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And during their brief talk, Minneva learns about Virginia Somerset,

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the girl who went missing which the Vanishing is based on,

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and Nouel referred to her as Genny because that's usually

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how they referred to her, and Carolyn says that Genny's

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disappearance wasn't reported because it was speculated that Genny ran

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away with a young, handsome man from Portugal, and this

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young man was named Santiago. Okay, bad buddy. And Carolyn

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takes min Neeva to the archive, shows her some of

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Genny's paintings, which she hates, but she kept because her

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late husband, Edgar Yates, who used to be engaged to Genny,

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kept out how weird writing Yeah. I was like, what

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do you mean you married? You're missing friends, fiance, But

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I guess she was never really her friend. Yeah. And

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Carolyn also shares that Ginny was a witchy spiritualist and

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that Betty also believed in the paranormal. And then she

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also shows Netva Betty's unpublished manuscript about Genny's disappearance, and

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this is how we follow that timeline through that manuscript. Yeah,

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And later on min Neva and Hidel chat about the

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manuscript and Minettva is making connections between Betty's story of

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witches and what Nana Alba used to say about the witches.

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Then they talk about moving needing to move Thomas's boxes

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out of the dorm and they're like, why Mi Neva's

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like why can't Thomas do it? And that's when they

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find out that basically no one's been able to get

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in touch with Thomas, not even his sister, since he

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left after winter break, very similar to say Genny's disappearance

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also around winter. Yeah, what a coincidence, very and min

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Neeva thinks about the last time she saw Thomas and

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realizes that it's been a minute again since late December,

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and that he was acting kind of weird when she

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did bump into him. It was straight up when her time,

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and he was walking around without a jacket and he

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seemed kind of like rattled. M That night, min Neeva

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has a little tiff with Conrad when she's went a

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rounds about regulations. He's broken. The next day she thinks

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it's Conrad because they had a little argument, but someone

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has painted two long black lines on the front door

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of her house and that's weird, like why Yeah, And

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then it wasn't regular paint, it was like a sticky,

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stinky tars substance. Yeah. Mineva goes to Carolyn's house again

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to review Betty's archives, and she chats with Noah before

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getting into her research. She learns that Carolyn hates Betty's

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book and again, I mean Carolyn mentioned this, but no repeaced.

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Carolyn only kept the archive going because of his grandfather, Edgar,

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and the same with Jenny's art. Two hours go by

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and Noah fetches me Nedva for them to have tea

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with Carolyn, and Carolyn asked her about the research, and

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during the conversation, Mineva learns that a lot of Betty's

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things got lost when she moved in with Benjamin Hoffman

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after her cancer treatment. That's like one of their friends

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from college, well not really Carolyn's friends. She's friends with

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no one, no, no, yeah. And min Neeva asked about Santiago, like,

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is there any employee records, you know, because it might

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help her with their thesis, and Carolyn asks, all weird

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about this, Yeah, She's like, how does that help you?

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I don't see any importance in this at all. Don't

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pursue this, yeah, But ultimately she does offer to have

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Noah show me Nedva the old factory, her family's old factory,

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and Noah drives min Neva back to her dorm before

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dropping her off. They do stop at this factory, but

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they only look at the outside because Noah doesn't have keys,

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the keys to go inside, and Minerva learns that the

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factory closed around nineteen eighty after it struggled for some time.

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Edgar Noah's grandfather. He also agreed with Betty that something

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paranormal happened to Genny like it was in a regular disappearance,

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and she for sure didn't run away with bad Bunny, right.

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Santanio santaniol yas Minerva goes to the campus library to

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look into the old student newspaper to see what she

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can learn about Jenny's disappearance. And these were stored I

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didn't fully understand the mechanisms of this thing, but they

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were stored in stacks or some kind of crank machine thing. Oh,

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I pictured, like I'm forgetting what movie or what show

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or what I was watching. Where basically they go down

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to like some old library or something and they have

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to like turn this knob okay, and then it like

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goes through these like literal physical documents. I wonder what

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that was, because I feel like I saw that too

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here or whatever that was. Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, okay,

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it's like you know how like posters are stored at

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them all Yeah, and like sort through them, but something

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bigger where like it flips through the old papers. It's fascinating.

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And so there's this like warning message posted on it

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for all the students, Like it says, before moving the stacks,

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check to make sure there are new people or stools

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between them. So Minerva looks to different issues and while

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she's looking, she well, someone turns the crank and she's

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about to get crushed by the stacks, but she manages

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to get away and she just falls in the process.

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And she looks around to see who the fuck almost

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killed her, but doesn't find anyone. Scary, Yeah, only that

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someone has crossed out the warning message. Yeah, there's like

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a lot of little creepy things that happened. Yeah. The

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atmosphere of this was Yeah, they weren't jump scartes. It

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was just like a one long like h what is happening? Eerie?

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Like eerie? Yeah. Yeah. So then he there and Minetta

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moved Thomas boxes and sheants up rummaging through some of

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his books. Then a piece of paper falls out of

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one of the books and min Neeva recognizes that drawings

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on it. She's seen it before at the Willows Building.

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And the Willows Building is one of the dorms. I think, right,

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is it not their old dorm, like, uh, Jenny and YADDI, yeah,

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Carolyn's old dorm, I think so. So she looks through

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more of his stuff and she finds a notebook full

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of similar drawings, which also resemble Ginny's art. He that

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was gone getting food, but Minetva, I hears something outside,

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and so she looks outside, and it looks like it's nighttime,

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but it shouldn't because not that much time has passed

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since he then left to get food. And even though

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she can't see anything outside, she knows someone is standing

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outside in the porch. Oh, like she can physically feel it. Yeah, yeah,

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like she's being watched. Someone is there. So then the

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next day or so, Minerva goes to the library to

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check out some of the books on witchcraft that Thomas

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had been reading or something like that. Yeah, he had

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like a list of like, oh, it's a list. Okay,

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I'm like I forgot where how these How she got

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these titles? Yeah, she came across. Yeah, yeah, and so

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and she also goes to use the phone and at

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the library, Minerva called thomas sister, and she learned that

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Thomas was tutoring Noah and he spent Thanksgiving was Carolyn

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and Noah. And then she also finds some of the

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books a History of Witchcraft Floor and there in that

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book she sees some of the drawings that Thomas and

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Ginny had been d both both had that book, yeah,

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and well, I don't think she knows yet that they

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both had it, but she recognizes the art and she

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learns that these oh I see. Yeah, she learns that

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these uh marks are epotropaic Marx hopefully that's how you

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pronounce that, and they're symbols of protection against which oh. Yeah.

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So she checks out that book and another book on

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medieval bitchcraft in England, and then she meets up with

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Noah and she asks him about Thomas and he's like, well,

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Carolyn invited him for Thanksgiving because she felt sorry for him.

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And then while she's there, she also gets to you know,

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look more into the archive and do her research for

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her thesis. But she also talks with Noah a little

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bit more, and she learns that that he's on ghosts

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at the family factory and then he they basically agree

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for him to take Minettava to the factory the next

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day before Carolyn gets back, but once Minettava gets back home,

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she sees a dead rat with us like sticking up

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and this is something that Ginny also saw. Yes, yes,

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the threats are getting more serious. Yeah, they're they're escalating.

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Mine and Noah go to the old factory. It's creepy

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and run down, and then they get coffee and he

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shares a little bit about his family. Basically, they marry

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for money, not for love. The great uncles were not

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cut out for the family business. Carolyn is cutthroat, and

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his parents died from a freak accident but a coincidence. Yeah,

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and Noah also shares about something called the Blacklist, which

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was something that Edgar and Betty kept going and it

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was a list of mysterious disappearances from New England. Later on,

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while doing her rounds, Minetra feels like someone is following

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her and she realizes that the normal path she takes

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just keeps going and going weird. Yeah, she feels Hella

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frazzled and like. During her state of frazzledness, she remembers

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Nana Alba's words, which is tricky, but she keeps walking

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until she falls and she stumbles upon Conrad and Conrad

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thinks she's drunk because how frazzled she is, and she

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thinks he was the one following her, and he's like, no,

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you're fucking weirdo. Yeah, he was a little he was

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a little much here. I'm like, Conra, calm down. Yeah,

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you see, she's frazzled. She starts recording her Conrad, Yeah,

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come on, Conrad, fucking Conrad. And so then min Neva

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when she gets home, she tells you that what happened?

460
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And he's like, uh, girl, what because she s asks

461
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,119
someone invisible was following me? Yeah, and so he's worried.

462
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,759
He's like, girl, are you okay? The pressure is getting

463
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:55,960
to you? Yeah, please get some help. The next day,

464
00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:58,559
min Neeva has tea with Carolyn, who asked about her

465
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:02,240
progress with the deil and the research. Min Neerva takes

466
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,680
this opportunity to ask if Genny was that thing we're

467
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:07,640
during the days leading up to her disappearance. But Carolyn

468
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,440
plays off Mineva's concerns and she's like, why are you

469
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,880
keep bringing Jenny up? Yeah? Yeah, And Carolyn asked me

470
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,759
Nedva about her scholarships, her financial situation, and she ends

471
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:23,680
up offering to pay for Minerva's room board educational living

472
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,519
expenses for the upcoming semester to allow Minerva to focus

473
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:31,759
on her thesis. And she's like, apparently she's done this

474
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:33,920
for many students in the past, is what she tells. Uh,

475
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:37,480
but she doesn't say what students here? No, she doesn't

476
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:40,279
like who was on her list of recipients. Yeah, and

477
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:44,039
but later we find out students like Thomas. Yeah, like Thomas.

478
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,720
And when min Neerva gets home, she has a horrible headache,

479
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:52,200
almost like the headache is warning her or something almost

480
00:28:52,240 --> 00:29:00,319
like important. Yes, yes, sadly she does the Carnstein her cat. Yeah,

481
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,200
the cat is dead. Unnaturally it's Nick cather beIN twisted

482
00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:09,359
a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, it's pretty bad

483
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,599
and he's dead. So then she calls he then on

484
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,799
a panic and she's like, someone's bewitched me, And he's like, girl,

485
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:23,240
are you okay, Chica? I think you need some help?

486
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,920
Yeah yeah, And so she agrees to contact heal services,

487
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:32,319
but instead she makes a protection charm as she should,

488
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:34,440
from one of the stuff birds. And it's a little

489
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,440
bird that we see in the cover. Yeah, yeah, this

490
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:40,720
uh one with the pins on it, like it's wing.

491
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,920
I love that she like someone else maybe would have

492
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,200
been like no, no, this isn't real, this isn't real.

493
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:51,240
But she immediately clocked in and she's like, I'm being bewitched.

494
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:54,640
I need to protect myself. And because of all the

495
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,119
stories her and how she was like no, and it's

496
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,319
it's wild because I got another book. This wouldn't have happened,

497
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:07,319
because you have this studious person in very deep academia

498
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:13,559
at this point who maybe wouldn't embrace this folklore stuff.

499
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:17,559
But she is not like that. Yeah, and maybe because

500
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:19,680
she's so into horror. And also all the stuff her

501
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:26,039
sugar with the Mexican Yeah, which tells and uh you

502
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:29,079
know kind of like oh it could be real. Yeah,

503
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:35,680
she's not denying, she's embracing. Yeah. Yeah, and it saves

504
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,160
her life really yeah. Yeah. The next day, Minerva meets

505
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,799
with Benjamin, the man who is Bessy's with Betty. Yes,

506
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:48,200
thank you. I was like, who's Benjamin? And Benjamin tells

507
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:50,440
Meneva he was friends with Edgar first, and that's how

508
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,160
he came to know Betty and they bonded over being

509
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,759
different because he was a sexual and she was a lesbian,

510
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,839
so they would be each other's dances, sorry, not dances,

511
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,240
dates for dances. Hasn't say beards? Yeah, yeah, they were

512
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,319
each other's beards for dances, you know, to keep up

513
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:12,839
with appearances and whatnot. Yeah. And Benjamin shares that Betty

514
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,640
spent the last years of her life with him. She

515
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,200
had no family around, not much money since she worked

516
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,200
as a copy editor. He never believed that Geny run

517
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:24,119
off with Santiago because he actually did some investigating into this.

518
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,240
He tried to report on it for the paper he

519
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:29,920
was working for at the time, but it was shot down.

520
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,559
But in his investigations he found out that the timelines

521
00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:39,440
they don't add up. No, Santiago actually went missing five

522
00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:43,880
days before Ginny, and it's unlikely they eloped because he

523
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,519
had just landed a full time job with Carolyn's family's company.

524
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:50,799
And Benjamin tried to talk to the other workers to

525
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,960
learn a little bit more about Santiago, but Carolyn's dad

526
00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:00,319
shut him down. What a coincidence? And Benjamin also learned

527
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:03,920
that Santiago left all his belongings behind, so it's like,

528
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:06,240
really doesn't make sense that he ran away, right, all

529
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:08,240
his things are still there. They would have packed their

530
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:10,279
stuff up to run away together. You would think, right

531
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:12,920
to start a new life together. Yeah, you gotta have

532
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:19,000
some things, right. Yeah. So then Benjamin brings some boxes

533
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:23,240
of Betty's belongings and in them, Minneva finds the Blacklist,

534
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:26,039
where Betty and Editar kept track of all the weird

535
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:29,519
disappearances in the area. And Benjamin also tells me about

536
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:33,720
how weird he thought that it was that Carolyn swooped

537
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:38,279
in on Edgar real quick after Deny's appearance, and he's like,

538
00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:44,319
that is so distasteful. Yeah, he's like, what kind of Yeah, distasteful, Yeah,

539
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:46,519
and yeah, and he also he's like, Carolyn, her dad,

540
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:57,640
they were just users of people. They're trash. Yeah, And okay,

541
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,599
this is when the light thing happens. When minever gets hold,

542
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,640
she's looking through the Blacklist, very eerie, when all of

543
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,160
a sudden there's light shines through her windows and at

544
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,720
first she thinks it's a car, but she looks outside

545
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,400
and there's no car there, and it's not really like

546
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,400
a car light. It's a soft green, wispy missed that

547
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:21,319
turns into a sphere or like a ball, a ball

548
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:27,759
a ball. And we say that because as mostly everyone

549
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:32,559
who listens will know the which is uh signed or

550
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:35,960
tell whatever? The ball of the fire and it's a

551
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:42,880
witch and so there's a little green also Theuci legend.

552
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:49,359
It one of the like supposed real accounts of in

553
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:51,559
somewhere in Mexico. I forgot where in like the nineteen

554
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,200
sixties people say they saw like a green mist. Oh

555
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:59,480
I didn't remember that. Yeah, that's what I liked here.

556
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,880
I feel like there was like a lot of little

557
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,440
like lore of different witches legends. If someone's gonna get

558
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:12,440
the correct lore from a bunch of different places, it is, Yeah.

559
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,000
And so this fear gets closer and closer to the window,

560
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,119
and then the phone. This part was so creepy. I

561
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,400
thought the phone start drinking, but when she answers, the

562
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,480
line is dead and it keeps drinking. So then she

563
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:27,400
does connects the phone classic core movie, y it was

564
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,679
it was. And then there's a knock on the back door,

565
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,000
which turns more into pounding, and then something starts scratching

566
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:35,159
under the windows, and then it spreads all over the

567
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,800
house and then the heart the house starts to shake, horrifying,

568
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,440
so creepy. And I mean Neva's from Mexico, so she

569
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:45,280
knows earthquakes and She's like, this is not a normal

570
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,320
earth squeak. Yeah, it calms down whatever. But the next night,

571
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,400
Neva goes to the same friends party from before, also

572
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:58,519
peer pressured into going by Hideo and but she ends

573
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,320
up feeling anxious and overwhelmed. She steps out for some air,

574
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,760
but when she's outside something it's the lamps un to

575
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,800
the ground. It's getting worse, yeah it is. And she's

576
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,960
still on the ground outside when Noah pulls up and

577
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,239
he's like, what happened? Are you okay? And he tries

578
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,280
to ask her what happened, but she doesn't know who

579
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,480
to trust, so she doesn't tell mem anything. And then

580
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,599
he's like, what the hell's wrong with you? Why won't

581
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:24,239
you tell me? He's like, I thought we were friends. Yeah.

582
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,199
And then the next day Minneva meets with Christina Everett

583
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,639
and this is Thomas's advisor. Oh okay mm hm, And

584
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:33,639
so Christina tells Meneva that Thomas was looking into for

585
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:39,840
his thesis into ectoplasm, spiritualism and art, focusing on American artists,

586
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:46,199
one who attended Stonewidge Ginny, and Christina shares that Thomas

587
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,519
was a little weird. He was a witchy guy, he

588
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:52,960
used a wigi board and Terry Card's and Minneva remembers

589
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,880
that there's a break in earlier at the Joys House

590
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,360
and she found a wigi board and lit up candles.

591
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,360
I see theead this is Joy's house, and then there's

592
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,960
the Willows, So I'm like, it's the Joys House at

593
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,280
the Willows. That's why I was kind of like a

594
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,320
little confused about Yeah, but these I know they are

595
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,320
buildings in the college. They't know. At the Joys House though,

596
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,679
I think is the old dorm that Ginny and Betting

597
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,320
were at. See, I thought that was the Willows, Okay,

598
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:23,480
but I'm not sure. I don't fully remember. And Christina

599
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:25,760
ends up giving me Nettva one of the books on

600
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,840
witchcraft that Thomas had left behind, and when Mineva opens

601
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,119
the book, she sees that Ginny and by this point

602
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:35,480
she recognizes Jenny's handwriting from everything she's been looking at,

603
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,840
but she sees that Genny wrote look beneath the floorboards

604
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,760
on the title page of the book dun Dum. That night,

605
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,159
Minevra goes to Jenny's old room, where she finds witch's

606
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,360
marks on the door and on the window frames, and

607
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,840
Minerva feels Genny's ghost there. She tried to She tries

608
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,599
to speak to Jenny's ghost, and Jenny's ghost seems to

609
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:02,159
respond by scratching a specific floorboard. So then she goes

610
00:37:02,199 --> 00:37:05,400
to that floorboard and within the gap she finds a

611
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,440
note that Genny left behind, which has one name in it,

612
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:17,280
one name a wind Grave. Oh, Carolyn, are wrong, my bad?

613
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,559
And then man Neva hears footsteps in the hallway and

614
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,719
she finds Carolyn that's okay, that's when and that's what

615
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,199
I was thinking of when I was like, Carolyn, yeah,

616
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,760
And she's standing in the doorway smiling like a weirdo. Yeah.

617
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,440
And min Neva's she's put two and two together. She's like, oh,

618
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:36,880
Genny couldn't say her name, but she could write it down.

619
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:39,599
And Carolyn's like, well, not really me. It was my

620
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:44,400
dad back then. It was him that writes me right,

621
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:48,800
really with both of them, oh yeah, yeah yeah. And

622
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,519
Carolyn says, she'll tell me Neva the truth. If min

623
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:54,400
Neerva steps out in of the room, she can't touch

624
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,760
her in the room. She's safe in them, right because

625
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,840
all the protection marks and Genny's ghost mm hmm. And

626
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,599
Mineva is like I'm not coming out, but but yeah,

627
00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:08,840
but Carolyn threatens to get he then onto a car accident,

628
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,199
so then she said she can't do Is this where

629
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,039
she mentions, no, one's parents are not yet it's on

630
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:18,239
the way. Yeah, okay, okay. So Minerva goes with Carolyn

631
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,480
because Carolyn threatens to you know, kill he. Basically she's like,

632
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:26,159
speaking of car accidents, don't don't don't. Yeah. So they

633
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:29,079
go to the factory and Carolyn's like, yes, this is

634
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:31,800
where I kill people at the factory, and here is

635
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:37,280
where I kill people. Yeah, cut me, and she tells

636
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:40,039
Carolyn tells me, Neva, what happened the night that Ginny

637
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:42,719
went missing. So it turns out that Ginny had attacked

638
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,079
Carolyn with a pair of scissors, then ran outside into

639
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:49,079
the snow where Carolyn's dad was waiting, because obviously at

640
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:50,880
this point she knew you know who was builting her.

641
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,679
And then they both chase Ginny and they'd hope she'd

642
00:38:54,719 --> 00:39:00,719
last longer because fear makes the blood taste better, apparently, Yeah,

643
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,320
and they killed her, and they killed her because of

644
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,159
her ability, just he ghosts, it makes her blood better,

645
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:11,360
more powerful, right, They drink blood for saying young and

646
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:16,800
power to keep the found business going. Yeah, Santiago was

647
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,599
the same. He also had ability less than Ginny, but

648
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:21,440
that's why he was picked to be killed. And they

649
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,360
needed like a man and a woman for the ritual.

650
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:27,519
Mm hmm. And and I should remember if I know,

651
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:29,559
I did mention it later on because I remember we're

652
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:32,880
reading this and it's switching from tailand to timeline. Yeah,

653
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:35,400
we're doing one time at a time. Yeah, Like we

654
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,840
learned that Betty overhears Carolyn and her dad talking about

655
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,719
like but why him? Why him? Like about picking people

656
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,039
and this is what you know is going on. They're

657
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:48,079
picking who they're gonna kill for the ritual. M h

658
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,000
And it turned out that Carolyn was one storting with

659
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:54,519
Santiago and then she spread rumors about Ginny to cover

660
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:57,440
her tracks, like fucking cage the one that they also

661
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,679
supposedly saw with him was her. Yeah, and then yeah,

662
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:04,320
like it was all part of their plan m hm.

663
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:10,639
And if it wasn't for you meddling kids for Minerva. Yeah,

664
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,440
And Carolyn admits to killing Thomas again for his blood

665
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,639
because he has he also had some abilities that she

666
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,360
sends after shaking his hand at some event, so then

667
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,760
she plotted to get close to him and kill him

668
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,280
by having him tutor Noah, and she admits to having

669
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,079
killed several other students before, so she gets ready to

670
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:33,480
kill me Neva. She puts on this little red plastic

671
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,000
tunic to give the blood off for her. She's like,

672
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:40,079
let make a dress, put my gloves on to hold them.

673
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,960
It reminded me of Santa Cruid diet when they cover everything. Yes, yes,

674
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,119
So then mine was like, why are you even killing me?

675
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,440
You're already rich, And then Karen's like Carolyn's like, well,

676
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,320
I'm running out of time because there's no descendants to

677
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,039
pass on and show you know the way of their

678
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:02,400
evil ways. And she needs Noah to have a grandkid

679
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:06,159
to teach her evil what she waste to because the

680
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:12,239
ability skipped him. And she also admits that she killed

681
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,039
Noah's parents to get culture to him to teach him.

682
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:17,039
But that's when she learns he doesn't have ability. Her

683
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:20,960
ability skipped what her son. Her son rejected his abilities.

684
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,119
Her son had the abilities rejected him, and so then

685
00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:26,039
she had him killed so she could take their baby,

686
00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:30,039
yeah and raise him in her ways. But turns out

687
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:33,039
he didn't have the ability it skips a generation. Apparently

688
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:39,719
sometimes yeah, I can. So. Then Mi Nedva cuts her wrist,

689
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,000
but in the struggle she's knocked down by the goals.

690
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,679
She can't get back up. She cuts Carolyn's wrist or

691
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:48,800
her own rist. She cuts her own wrist, okay, thank you, yeah,

692
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,800
and so she can't get back up, and then Carolyn's

693
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,880
on her drinking from her wrist. But soon Carolyn starts

694
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,760
choking coughing of blood and turns out Nedva, on the

695
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,480
way to the factory, had been all day. She had

696
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,440
mixed witch is poison, poison for witches into her coffee

697
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,559
that she had been sipping on all day long, something

698
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:11,920
she learned from Nana Alba. Nana Alba to the rescue,

699
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:18,519
and Carolyn's like, you little bitch, how dare you when

700
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,400
just when I was about to kill you she poison me.

701
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,000
So then she's pretty much dying, but she still has

702
00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:29,280
a knife, and so she's about to stab me Nedva,

703
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:33,000
but Mi Neva's like help from the ghost, and the

704
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:36,519
ghost helps me Nedva by turning the knife against Carolyn.

705
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:38,800
And this gives me Neva the chance to chop off

706
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,760
her head. Because you have to chop off a witch's head,

707
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,199
something she learned from Nana Alba. Yeah, and so then

708
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:49,559
she chops off the head and Carolyn's body melts away,

709
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,920
and it's now Halloween time. Noah stops spy while min

710
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,079
Neiva is carving a pumpkin on her porch, and he's like,

711
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:02,000
I'm dropping out to Boston because the Willows. Oh, I

712
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,880
think the Willows might have been their house. Oh yeah,

713
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:11,400
that's okay. The Willows is Carolyn's house. Yeah, that's very

714
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,599
close to campus. Yeah, and so on campus. Yeah. And

715
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,360
he's like, the Willows is too big for just me.

716
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,960
And he's like, I haven't received any updates about Carolyn

717
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:24,480
going missing. But turns out she was more sick than

718
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,320
she let on, so there's speculation that she ended her life,

719
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,800
and some message boards probably read it, yeah, are pointing

720
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,920
to him as a suspect. And so they talk about

721
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,639
that for a bit, and then they also talk about

722
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,480
Neva and no One's like, oh, I can't imagine spending

723
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,719
my life in academia. We're so different, but actually we're

724
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,599
more like than you think. And she's like what On

725
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:50,280
the inside, She's like what, because she's like, is he

726
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,400
saying he also has does he know it's what she's

727
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,400
thinking about the whole time? Likely? What does he know?

728
00:43:57,079 --> 00:44:00,599
So she doesn't say anything, tell him anything. She's just

729
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:04,239
in her very quiet, observant way. She is so observant. Yeah,

730
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:07,719
I feel like I reserved, am like her. But not. No,

731
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:13,400
you're not. No, you would never keep it to yourself.

732
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,159
I could be like that. I could. No, No, we're not.

733
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:21,719
We're both being delusional here. No, are you serious? I am.

734
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:26,280
I spent a whole year depressed on work. Nobody knew why.

735
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,519
You're right, You're right, you're right. I don't even tell

736
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:32,320
you twill months later. Yeah, I can't believe I am

737
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:38,800
very reserved, Christina. That's not I'm a negative coping skill.

738
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,400
It's not good. It's not. No. No, like like we

739
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,679
were saying earlier, it's not only. But my point is

740
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,119
that I could keep a secret like me Neva. Yeah. Yeah,

741
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,320
and so really I am mean Neva And anyway, no

742
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,159
one tells me Neva. And he's like, oh, hopefully we

743
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:01,239
can be friendly, you know, keep friendly after I move away,

744
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,519
And she's like, oh, we're friends, and he's like, well,

745
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:08,239
we're not enemies, not yet. And she's like what what

746
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:15,599
Inside She's like what. But so then she's like, well,

747
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:18,000
she's feeling weird about this now because she's like Keith,

748
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:20,239
this bitch knows something. So she's like, I'm gonna I'm

749
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,079
gonna hind aside because I have to get ready for something.

750
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:24,119
And he's like, oh, you're not gonna invite me inside

751
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:29,239
and she's like no. But in the inside, she's like thinking,

752
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,000
you never invite a witch inside your house. And but

753
00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:37,519
like he didn't have this power, so and Carolyn told her.

754
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:40,920
But Carolyn could have just been saying that that's true.

755
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:44,039
She doesn't know how much he knows. I feel like

756
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:48,119
Noah's not like that, though he has like little moments

757
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:51,719
where it seems like he knows more than he does. True,

758
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,039
So I understand, See, you're already talking yourself into into

759
00:45:56,039 --> 00:46:02,519
sharing your secrets. You're right, min Neva's reserved because she's

760
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:06,840
protecting herself. Yeah, it's yeah, it's an unhealthy coping mechanism

761
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,920
that has saved her thus far. Yeah, but I just

762
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,559
feel like the way that he the laziness, the the

763
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,760
stuff that hurt that Caroline has been saying about him.

764
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,159
But what if Carolyn left like a letter she's like, oh,

765
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,760
this and this happened. You know, you don't know, right,

766
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,679
And Carolyn was a sneaky bitch, she was she was,

767
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,320
so yeah, it's kind of left up in the air. Yeah,

768
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,280
and you can't trust the white man, so sorry, a

769
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:43,559
rich white man exactly. So that was a min Neva's story.

770
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:49,639
Alba's story, it begins with her busy prepping, getting the

771
00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:52,480
house in order and all bossing everyone around for the

772
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:57,119
arrival of her uncle Arturo. And she's especially annoyed at

773
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:00,159
her brother because he's like, what are we doing all

774
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:03,159
of this for that bitch art He sucks, he fucking sucks.

775
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,840
He but we hate him by the end, we really

776
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:16,639
do hate him. Wait wait oh yeah, actually Arturo from

777
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:23,840
from Teresa Prophet. Yes, wait yeah, that's so people know

778
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:29,880
who we're talking about. Anyone who said yes, yeah, something

779
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,159
like that. Yeah, that is who I pictured. But I

780
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:38,719
think just because of the name Artudo. Oh anyway, although

781
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,119
that there could be annoyed sometimes Alba is super close

782
00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:44,079
to him because they were born. Only when you're apart,

783
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,320
which has a name. But that's apparently offensive. I heard

784
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:54,440
it's offensive. Yeah, yeah, twins Albado seems to be in

785
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,840
love or infatuated with Arturo, so there's it's a lot

786
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:04,800
of uncomfortable moments between them. Yeah. Yeah. And Alba and

787
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,719
her family are grieving their dad died only four months

788
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,039
before he arrives and they're about to hold a mass

789
00:48:11,039 --> 00:48:13,760
for him. Ardro didn't come for the funeral, but he's

790
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,119
there now for the mass, supposedly, but he's there to stay,

791
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:24,840
supposedly to help the mom. Alba tells Artudo how hard

792
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,719
things have been lately and how she hates all of

793
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,079
the household duties that she's responsible for. What is she like, seventeen?

794
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:35,920
I think so sixteen seventeen? Yeah, so yeah, it's her

795
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,400
job now to help. And here we learned that when

796
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,159
Alba's mom, Luisa, was sixteen, her mom died and Arturo

797
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,039
was only two, so Louisa and the older sister Julia

798
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:50,119
took care of Arturo because their dad had no interest

799
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:53,880
in physically caring for him. And then when Arturo was nine,

800
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,239
he went to live with Luisa and Alba's dad in

801
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,920
the rancho Piedras Guebradas, and Arturo's eventually sent to a

802
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,800
boarding school because he didn't really care for the rancho life.

803
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,679
He wasn't built for it, despite Alba's dads ever to

804
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,920
teach him, and so he was like a city boy,

805
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:16,880
you know. He that's where he thrived TVH. Arturo is

806
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,719
a dick and thinks he's better than the quote unquote

807
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,199
simple people of the Rancho. But right now Alba is

808
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,880
blind to Arturo's air of super superiority. Oh my god,

809
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:36,559
air of superty, some superority, yeah, secret the mass, and

810
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,119
she hasn't noticed he better than everyone. Yeah, he's very

811
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:46,039
arrogant and above these people. They're beneath him. Dado, on

812
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:48,840
the other hand, questions Arturo all the time, and he's like,

813
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,159
why is this city boy here? And so he's like

814
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:54,159
why is Arturo? Why did he bring so much luggage?

815
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:57,400
And this is where Arturo says that he plans to

816
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,800
stay and help Louisa out because their father's death had

817
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,440
been very hard on her, and immediately is like, we

818
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,360
don't need or want your help. I've been doing everything.

819
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,519
I've been handling everything, and you don't even know shit

820
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:13,840
about running the Rancho like you were sent to boring school.

821
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,800
That's how much you don't know about it this life.

822
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,719
And he's right later ur Tuo knocks on Albazdor And

823
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,960
this is an awkward moment before you get in to that.

824
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,599
I was just going to say, real quick, I asked,

825
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:27,559
I really, I especially loved that those hatred of Dudo,

826
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,119
same same, I loved it. I was there for it,

827
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:35,840
I was seated. Yeah, and I like, I understand those

828
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,039
were different times that things like that did happen. Yeah,

829
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,000
oh that the Tuo and albating, Yeah Alba, but no,

830
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,360
this is a real thing that does happen. Like because

831
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,360
I know a lot of the reviews, a lot of

832
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:53,360
the reviews incest. I can't get behind this discussing incest,

833
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,360
but like, this shit did happen, and not only in Mexico.

834
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:01,880
It happened everywhere where, every everywhere. And I I don't

835
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,440
think by writing about it, it's not like she's not

836
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,400
supporting it. She's not saying it's okay. Nah. If anything,

837
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:16,320
I think it shows the the dynamic of the unhealthy,

838
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:22,159
you know, inappropriate dynamic, and that Alaba was obviously, you know,

839
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:27,039
the powerless one who couldn't help, but have this infatuation

840
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,440
of you know, one of the only men she was around, Yeah,

841
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,840
who she thinks is cool. And I think it happens

842
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,239
living the life that she wants. Yeah, she admires him.

843
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:42,119
It turns into something a little more, you know than that,

844
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,719
because maybe she's growing up, you know, yeah, hormonal whatever.

845
00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:50,599
And sometimes it happens like younger people will get crushes

846
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:53,519
on their older cousins, their older uncles, and it's on

847
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:56,119
the uncle the older people to not act on it

848
00:51:56,119 --> 00:52:02,039
because it's inappropriate exactly. But it's not like like, oh,

849
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:06,599
this is completely okay, Like it's never comes across like that. No,

850
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,840
not at all. But we needed to say that because

851
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,800
some of the reviews people have been leavings like they

852
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:18,119
think she's condoning it. Yeah and no, so yeah, this

853
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,679
is aquamment number one. He knocks on alabaz door to

854
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,719
give her a trinket that he bought her. It's a

855
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,360
necklace with a pearl on it, and he helps her

856
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:29,280
put it on in a very creepy, lingering, gross way

857
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:36,119
to read about. And they're low key flirting. A few

858
00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:39,000
days past and it's now after the mass and friends

859
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,920
of the family, the Molinas among them, were invited to

860
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:46,400
visit them after the mass, and Alabaz chatting with friends

861
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,679
and one of the friends points out how hot. Valentine

862
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,159
is who works for the Molinas. Did you cast anyone

863
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:59,440
for Valentine? Okay, maybe what is the show with a

864
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,519
little girl of kids in La and my block? Yeah,

865
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:09,679
the low gangster from that one that was Spooky's younger brother. Oh,

866
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:15,159
because you know there's like young their teens Alba and Valentine. Yeah,

867
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:22,000
like seven, sixteen seventeen, right, yeah, okay, diego tinoco. I

868
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,679
could see that. I could see that. The friends also

869
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,360
mentioned that Valentine is alba sweetheart, but al was like,

870
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,719
oh my god, no he's not. But then Valentine walks

871
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,079
over and he gives Alba some pink roses and he

872
00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:37,159
asks to ride with her back to Pierre Squevradas. And

873
00:53:37,199 --> 00:53:40,400
once almost everyone's gone, mister Reelina asks Tadeo if he's

874
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,119
thought about his offer to buy the farm from Taddeo

875
00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:48,679
and was like nah, and Arduo's like unwarrantedly, but in

876
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,119
the conversation he's like, oh, this sounds like a good idea.

877
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,079
Fucking bitch that gets mad at Ardudo and he mean

878
00:53:55,199 --> 00:53:57,440
mugs him so intensely that the Molinas are like, yeah,

879
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,840
we're gonna go. It's a company now. Yeah, we're gonna go.

880
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,440
And then and Arthur don't argue about selling the farm

881
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,360
about talks to Arturo about the argument. And this is

882
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,760
our first glimpse. This is our first red flag, a

883
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,719
real red flag about how shitty Arturo is. He manipulates

884
00:54:17,519 --> 00:54:19,480
by asking, are you mad at me? You want me

885
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:23,039
to leave? I'll leave if you want me to, like

886
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:26,360
turning around the situation, like, yeah, poor me, I have

887
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,840
to go now if you want me to. Yeah. Yeah.

888
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,480
I was like, no, I don't want you to leave.

889
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,679
Actually I nodded a corner around a piece of yellow

890
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,079
cloth just so you would come visit. And this is

891
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:43,039
like little things people do, like wearing red underwear for

892
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:45,960
love on New Year's same kind of shit. Yeah, And

893
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:50,960
Arturo judgmentally asks where she learned that nonsense from talking

894
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:52,960
down to her, saying that she's too old to believe

895
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,760
in simple superstitions of peasants like a bitch. Yeah, And

896
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,039
Alba tried to defend herself, saying her father used to

897
00:54:59,039 --> 00:55:02,800
believe in these things and he had portents just like her,

898
00:55:03,039 --> 00:55:05,280
and that she knew when Artua was coming because of

899
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,840
the portins that she experiences. And they talk the more

900
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:12,960
and Arduro is just fucking creepy. He tells Alba that

901
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:15,519
Tado may belong there in the rancho but she's far

902
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:22,440
too pretty for the rancho life. Gross disgusting, and again

903
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,320
Alba is blameless here, Yeah, Alba, Tadeo, and Arturo go

904
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,239
into town to run errands. Alban and Arturo goes to

905
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,679
the pharmacy where they're weirdly flirting again. They run into Valentine,

906
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:38,880
who interrupts her disgusting flirting and he excitedly tells Alba,

907
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,280
you won't believe what I have. Arturo is so fucking annoyed,

908
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,800
and he tells Valentine to properly greet his niece, and

909
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,679
he's just so fucking rude to him this whole time, like, oh,

910
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,639
is this how you say hi to a ladys? I

911
00:55:54,679 --> 00:55:58,519
hate him. Araba leaves with Valentine though, because he wants

912
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:01,280
to talk to about issue that he's having with one

913
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,880
of his horses. And then they see that Theo who

914
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,000
seems to be arguing with the witch. And they noticed

915
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,440
the witch because she wears out with the red stripe

916
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,079
bringing down which all of the local witches from Los

917
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:15,559
Pinos were Daalel tells him the witch was trying to

918
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:18,440
sell him something, and he invites Valentine over for dinner.

919
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,880
Daleo also agrees to stop by early the next day

920
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,559
to look at the horse. At dinner, Daaleau mentions that

921
00:56:25,679 --> 00:56:28,519
the arm where the witch scratched him hurts, and he

922
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:31,440
tells everyone that the woman talked to him about evil spirits.

923
00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:36,199
Valentine doesn't think that the woman bet Petoins meant him

924
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,360
any harm and says that his family has bought he

925
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,159
medos from her, remedies from her before. Artuau is a

926
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:45,559
little bit about this, like nobody's even asking for his

927
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:49,199
stupid fucking opinion, and he's like, people from the countryside

928
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:51,599
are stupid for believing in superstitions, and it's like, shut

929
00:56:51,639 --> 00:56:56,639
them up. Louisa even tells Uda to stop being rude. Yeah,

930
00:56:57,079 --> 00:56:59,320
because he used to be obsessed with her late husband

931
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,800
stories of w and spirits, and to me, this was

932
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,199
another red flag right here. Yeah, what do you mean

933
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,800
obsessed with this stuff? M hmm. Like and if you

934
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,000
were so obsessed, then all of a sudden, you know,

935
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:10,920
you're like, oh, you're acting like you're not, like, well,

936
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,239
what's going on? What's going on? Yeah, what's going on?

937
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,760
Especially the bloodiest ones, and they even caught him going

938
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:22,280
to Los Pinos with the Destto Boy plenty of times,

939
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,280
and Arduo defends himself by saying he only went because

940
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:30,320
of the Destto Boy, but Luisa manages to change the

941
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,679
topic again and this was all weird yeah already. When

942
00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:39,280
everyone leaves, Arduo has an inappropriate conversation with Alba about

943
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,159
Valentine courting her and where he basically says in this

944
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:44,840
conversation that as the man of the house, Taddeo will

945
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,519
be the one to choose who's best She'll she'll slip into.

946
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,400
But he says it all grossly like Bulger Dan's your

947
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,599
uncles trying to be saying to you. Yeah. But then

948
00:57:57,639 --> 00:58:01,960
they make up and they have another gross flirting The

949
00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:05,320
next morning, after serving breakfast, Alba finds that Tao is

950
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,840
not there, but she thinks something of it since he

951
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,519
said he was going to leave early to go check

952
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:12,719
out Valentine's horse, But then she starts getting worried once

953
00:58:12,719 --> 00:58:15,360
she walks into Dado's room to find a broken pitcher

954
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,000
and a patch of blood under one of Dalel's boots

955
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:22,599
which had been tossed by the headboard, and no one

956
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:25,280
else in the family is really worried for some reason. Well,

957
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,199
obviously Ardudo is gonna dismiss all this. Yeah, and then

958
00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:31,159
her mom is just too busy to be worried. I

959
00:58:31,199 --> 00:58:35,440
think at this point, yeah, at this point, yeah, I

960
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:38,280
can tell that something is wrong her and that they

961
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,519
will have this deeper connection. Yeah. Is there're only one

962
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:45,559
year apart, so there are twins. Yeah. Albac goes to

963
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:48,320
Valentine's place and her mom takes her, makes her take

964
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,119
Arturo there. They find out that that theyo never made it,

965
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,960
and Valentine ga there's a couple of men to go

966
00:58:55,079 --> 00:58:58,199
looking for Taddeo and promises to spling by later to

967
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,320
give a an update. And Valentine does come back, but

968
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,800
only with Taddeo's horse. There's no Tadeo, and he says

969
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,079
that they found they found the horse by the river.

970
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,360
A week goes by and the search continues, but there's

971
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,880
still no sign of Tadeo. Albert, her mom, and ar

972
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,000
Tudo go into town with the hopes of getting the

973
00:59:18,039 --> 00:59:20,480
mayor's help to put out a reward for anyone with

974
00:59:20,519 --> 00:59:24,800
information about Daddeo's whereabouts, which Artudo thinks is a waste

975
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,079
of money because he wants all of that money, right,

976
00:59:27,199 --> 00:59:30,320
He's like, stop wasting my money. Yeah, that's my money,

977
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,920
but Louisa insisted on it. That's her son, like yeah,

978
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,400
come on, come on now. Albert pretends she needs something

979
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,159
from the pharmacist so that she doesn't have to go

980
00:59:40,159 --> 00:59:43,400
to the mayor's house when she runs into Valentine, and

981
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,840
Valentine shares rumors being spread by the townspeople about Tadeo's disappearance.

982
00:59:49,639 --> 00:59:52,400
These rumors include that Tadeo was robbed and death were dead,

983
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,360
that he ran off with the girl, and that a

984
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,880
witch from Los Pinos put a spell on Tadeo and

985
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,679
killed him. But through her own she senses Alba knows

986
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:06,119
that that they was still alive. Valentine suspects Alva's family

987
01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:10,800
has been cursed with bad luck. Luisa and Arturo get back,

988
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,039
and Arturou suggests the higher a pi from the city,

989
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:17,320
while Valentine suggests that they get a cleansing first, which

990
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,159
Arturo immediately shouts down because he's a little bit yeah.

991
01:00:21,039 --> 01:00:24,920
When Valentine leaves, he starts tucking shit to Alba about him,

992
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:32,599
calling Valentine foolish and dumb and believes blah blah blah. Yeah.

993
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,000
Once at home, Artuau apologizes to Alba and she ends

994
01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:39,000
up breaking down in tears and he comforts her. But

995
01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:43,480
there's always this discussing weirdness when it comes to these

996
01:00:43,519 --> 01:00:46,840
two because of Artudo. Again, he is the inappropriate. We

997
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,039
can't be normal. She's just a girl and he is

998
01:00:50,119 --> 01:00:57,639
a freak. But he's a freakish monster taking advantage of

999
01:00:57,719 --> 01:01:03,199
his knees. Yes, exactly, after all, he is a man.

1000
01:01:05,079 --> 01:01:08,840
That night, Alba hears a shrill, whiny noise outside, but

1001
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,679
she can't figure out what kind of animal it is,

1002
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,000
and she opens the window and she hears it again,

1003
01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:16,079
along with these scuttering noises, and she hears her a

1004
01:01:16,119 --> 01:01:18,239
couple more times, but she still can't figure out what

1005
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,760
kind of animal this is. The next morning, the family

1006
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:27,400
finds that Theo's horse dead, dead Animalsanda Rancho keep dying

1007
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:31,920
and Albert keeps having nightmares of Taddeo. Valentine slops by

1008
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,000
and he insists to Alba that her family has been bewitched,

1009
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,039
and she low key agre agrees with him. Albat tells

1010
01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:42,039
Valentine about the noises she heard the other night, and

1011
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,159
they fear it. It might be a de yo yokani,

1012
01:01:46,599 --> 01:01:49,119
a kind of witch who sucked human blood and devoured

1013
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:53,280
the hearts of men. The worst kind of witch. Yeah.

1014
01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:57,559
Valantine tells Albat to stay calm because witches get more

1015
01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:00,960
power as her victims become more fearful. He tells her

1016
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,280
to put a pair of scissors in a bowl of

1017
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,559
water under her bed to keep any which away. He

1018
01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:09,519
also gives her his necklace because it's been blessed, and

1019
01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:12,360
they make a plan to go to Los Pinos next

1020
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:17,760
Tuesday while Arturo's gone. Before leaving, Valentine gives Alma one

1021
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,039
more warning once, which is get a taste of their

1022
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:24,480
victim's blood. Things get worse and they only get more

1023
01:02:24,519 --> 01:02:28,039
powerful as they drink more blood and their victim falls

1024
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:32,280
under their spell even more. That night, Alba does the

1025
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,519
scissor thing. At the next morning, she finds the scissors

1026
01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:39,079
are hell arrested overnight. It's like they were left out

1027
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:42,800
in the rain for months. Alba and Valentine go to

1028
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:47,000
Los Pinos to visit Missus Jovita for her help. Missus

1029
01:02:47,079 --> 01:02:50,719
Jovita immediately tells Alba that there's a shadow upon her

1030
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:55,199
and that at the Yoyokani is hunting her family. She

1031
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,679
then tells them that at the Yoyokani is dangerous and

1032
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,079
that she needs to make Alba a talisman for protection,

1033
01:03:02,599 --> 01:03:04,960
but it's gonna cost more than a bottle of ram

1034
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,440
and coins. Albas stars to feel dumb about having to

1035
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,400
come to miss Hobbida in the first place, because she's like, well,

1036
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,679
she wants her money. She's she's a calm woman, even

1037
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:18,559
more so when missus Kobita, missus are you're saying? Miss

1038
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:21,480
when missus Hobita asks for Alba's ring as a payment.

1039
01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:27,199
But then missus Hobda correctly guesses that Alba has potents,

1040
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,599
and she warns Albat that that the yoyo Kani wants

1041
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:34,559
to feed from the blood of his victims, bewitches them,

1042
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:39,599
and that it was the yoyo Kani that ate that

1043
01:03:39,679 --> 01:03:43,599
they all. Alba finally hands over the ring after hearing

1044
01:03:43,639 --> 01:03:47,639
all this, and Missus Hobita gives Alabat the talisman. A

1045
01:03:47,719 --> 01:03:50,000
dead dove was seven pins on it, the one on

1046
01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:52,840
the cover of the book. She tells Alba it's stronger

1047
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,280
than the scissors. Then she tells al about to prick

1048
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,760
her finger on one of the pins because her blood

1049
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,039
will protect her, and warns her not to allow the

1050
01:04:01,159 --> 01:04:04,800
the yo Yogani to drink her blood. When Alba asks

1051
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:09,960
about destroying the the yo Yogani altogether, missus Hobita tells

1052
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,159
her it's not that simple to do. Alba mentions to

1053
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:15,239
her that her dad used to say, to kill one,

1054
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,920
you have to cut the head off or carve their

1055
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:23,360
hearts out. Then they leave. Alba recognizes a woman this

1056
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,679
is the wish that she thinks curstadeo, but Valentine says

1057
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,599
that Dona Petua wouldn't do anything like that, and then

1058
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:32,760
they have a little argument about it, but then they kiss.

1059
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,840
Then they kiss, yes, and I was like, yes, this

1060
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,039
is an age appropriate relationship for you. And they were

1061
01:04:38,039 --> 01:04:41,320
so sweet, like he was so sweet, and it was

1062
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:48,119
just like young love, so innocent, your age appropriate again,

1063
01:04:48,199 --> 01:04:52,719
like you said, yeah, yeah, yeah, no weird no, weird

1064
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,679
things yeah on here in this relationship. Yeah. And he's

1065
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,679
respectful and kind of not working, you know, all those

1066
01:04:59,719 --> 01:05:06,960
valid use and apparently good looking according to Alba's friends. Yeah,

1067
01:05:07,639 --> 01:05:11,360
things keep going wrong at the Rancho chicken stop laying eggs,

1068
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,519
things like that. Alba's emotional and she tells her mom

1069
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:18,519
in front of their house staff that they're cursed and

1070
01:05:18,519 --> 01:05:22,679
that it was dead, and this upsets her mom. She's like,

1071
01:05:22,719 --> 01:05:24,239
don't be saying that in front of the staff, Like

1072
01:05:24,239 --> 01:05:28,639
they're gonna swear and leave. Yeah, So Albad runs off

1073
01:05:28,679 --> 01:05:32,679
to her room, where Arturo finds her. They have another weird,

1074
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:37,519
gross moment. During these weird moments, Alba always notices a

1075
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:42,360
shift in Arturo's moods or eyes, which she describes as dark.

1076
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,880
That night, Alba sees a ball of light near the trees,

1077
01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:53,039
which she immediately clogs as a witch. This ball of

1078
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:56,519
fire emits an owl like sound, but Alaba knows it's

1079
01:05:56,559 --> 01:05:59,599
not an owl, and she's overtaken by an immense by

1080
01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:03,000
any mental fear that she's never felt before. She runs

1081
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,199
to her mom's room, but it's gone by the time

1082
01:06:05,239 --> 01:06:07,039
they make it back to Aliba's room for her to

1083
01:06:07,079 --> 01:06:09,079
show her mom, and her mom doesn't want to hear

1084
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:11,679
this shit. She doesn't want to hear about witches from Alba.

1085
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,280
She tells Alba she's acting like a child. I have

1086
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,760
enough on my plate. Yeah, She's like, I don't need

1087
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,800
to be thinking about fucking witches. On top of all

1088
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,599
this shit. She's like, your dad died, that they all

1089
01:06:22,679 --> 01:06:24,880
was missing, and I still got to keep this house

1090
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,079
running and shut the fuck up. And now you're over

1091
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,920
here talking about the witch. Shut up, shut up about

1092
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:34,440
the witches. Shut up a bus and son. Yeah. Alba

1093
01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:38,199
finds herself remembering her kiss with Valentine, and then her

1094
01:06:38,199 --> 01:06:43,079
thoughts drifts off to wishing her Doudle her Deol would

1095
01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:48,079
kiss her. Sorry. Yeah, and she's like what the fuck

1096
01:06:48,159 --> 01:06:50,239
and reads the Bible as soon as she can to repent.

1097
01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:57,039
But you know, in a repressive society where church is

1098
01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:01,599
so important, you you have these kind of gross thoughts

1099
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:05,760
instead of normal, healthy sexual thoughts. That's where the taboo, really,

1100
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:12,039
what's the word I'm looking for drives? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1101
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:17,400
and this repression yeah, and that's why predators can find

1102
01:07:17,639 --> 01:07:23,960
such easy find dollus in these high control environments. Yeah yeah, Okay,

1103
01:07:24,039 --> 01:07:31,320
back to her repenting. That night she dreams that's someone sorry,

1104
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,280
she repents for no reason. Yeah, okay, So that night

1105
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,679
she dreams that someone kissed her, was kissing her neck

1106
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,760
when all of a sudden she fell. Whoever or whatever

1107
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:46,400
it was bit her, and all she sees that night

1108
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:49,760
is two large eyes fixated on her, and the next

1109
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,679
morning she sees that she has a cut above her heart.

1110
01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:56,119
She scared and so she asks Valentine to go to

1111
01:07:56,239 --> 01:07:59,519
Los Pinos with her. But before she leaves, l Rancho

1112
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,199
Arturo's acting kind of weird, asking if she's getting sick,

1113
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,519
that she looks tired. Weird things. Yeah. When they get

1114
01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:12,480
to Los Pinos, they see Jovita, who pretty much tells

1115
01:08:12,519 --> 01:08:16,560
Alba she's fucked because she's learned that the witch has

1116
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:21,000
bitten Alba. Valentine tells Alba they can lure the witch

1117
01:08:21,039 --> 01:08:23,479
and trap it, just like the old stories, say, let

1118
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,520
me find it, and are you going to read this part?

1119
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,039
This part was fucking cool. Yeah, that's why I'm in it. Okay,

1120
01:08:29,039 --> 01:08:31,800
So Valentine says, we'll do as the story say, We'll

1121
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,920
lure it and trap it. Alba looks at him. Valentin

1122
01:08:35,039 --> 01:08:37,520
was nodding, yes, like in that story. My grandfather used

1123
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,800
to tell. We wait until night falls, skin an animal

1124
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:44,319
and lay its dead carcass upon the ground. Then we

1125
01:08:44,359 --> 01:08:46,960
wait in the shadows until the scent of blood draws

1126
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,039
the the yo yokani out. When it approaches, we take

1127
01:08:50,039 --> 01:08:52,560
a cord and tie a knot, then say some words,

1128
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,640
then tie another knot and say more words. Once you've

1129
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,520
tied twelve knots, it will be trapped. Then you can

1130
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,520
kill it. And the word are. The first word is earth.

1131
01:09:02,199 --> 01:09:04,960
You tell it that you're holding it with earth. Then

1132
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,239
you say you're holding it with water, then with fire

1133
01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:10,560
and air. You say it again. We reach twelve. Once

1134
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,279
you've begun tying the knots, you can't stop speaking. That's

1135
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:16,560
a trick. It might try to scare you or trick you,

1136
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:22,720
but you must keep going. Amazing. They kiss before going

1137
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,439
their separate ways, and Valentine says he'll go into town

1138
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,960
that evening to get his bullets blessed. And he tells

1139
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,119
all about that, Sorry, I said the word. And he

1140
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:36,439
tells all about that he should start, Oh, that he

1141
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,960
should start properly courding her instead of this what they've

1142
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,840
been doing. Yeah, and they're the cutest, Like I know,

1143
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,359
I love them. I was also, Yeah, I was devastated.

1144
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:53,159
We'll get there, We'll get there. Yeah, No, I was too.

1145
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:58,039
Alba's dream keeps. Alba's dreams keep getting worse, and Alba

1146
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:01,239
ends up getting a portent that's a terrible will happened

1147
01:10:01,399 --> 01:10:03,199
so she asks her mom she can ride to the

1148
01:10:03,239 --> 01:10:07,079
Molinas because she's worried something has happened to Valentine. She

1149
01:10:07,119 --> 01:10:08,800
tries to make up an excuse to go over there,

1150
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,760
and Ardudo convinces her mom to let her go, but

1151
01:10:12,359 --> 01:10:16,680
offers to join her. When Alba gets to the Molinas,

1152
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:22,000
she learns que Valentine he just died thirty minutes ago.

1153
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:27,039
Her portents are like very spot on. Yeah yeah. Alba

1154
01:10:27,079 --> 01:10:30,479
gets overwhelmed at the church service for Valentine, and when

1155
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,079
she steps out for some air, she overhears some of

1156
01:10:33,119 --> 01:10:38,079
the talentspeople say that a mountain lion couldn't have clawed Valentine,

1157
01:10:38,119 --> 01:10:41,600
like that that was witchcraft, and that he was on

1158
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:46,560
his way to Piedrasquevradas, which is cursed, which is their

1159
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:51,760
rancho Yah, their curse Rancho. Arturo finds Alba Sabin and

1160
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,760
promises her that they'll leave this curse rancho. But Alba

1161
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,079
gets a portent or image of Valentine's death and she

1162
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:03,199
vows to event his death and kill the witch and

1163
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,760
just so sad, yeah and so yeah. She literally gets

1164
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,359
a play by a play in her mind of how

1165
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,840
that died. That's how she knows Valentine. Oh my god, sorry,

1166
01:11:14,079 --> 01:11:19,960
I keep getting the confused Valentine. Yes, Valentine. Yeah. And

1167
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:24,560
so she's gonna avenge her man. She's gonna follow the

1168
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,079
plan that her and Valentine had in the first place

1169
01:11:27,159 --> 01:11:30,039
to kill the witch. And she does this first part.

1170
01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:32,720
She sets the trap with a dead rabbit, and soon

1171
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,600
a creature appears. And now you're going to the page, Yeah,

1172
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,079
because I want to describe what the creature looks like.

1173
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:45,239
This was so insane as a thing closer to the

1174
01:11:45,279 --> 01:11:48,239
dead rabbit, sniffing and hissing, it seemed to drag what

1175
01:11:48,279 --> 01:11:50,800
did a veil of shadows so that she could not

1176
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,439
see clearly, even as she noticed certain details of its anatomy.

1177
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,319
She saw the line of feathers running down its bony spine,

1178
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,960
the talons like those of an owl, the slick skin

1179
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:03,079
of an eel for those for this was a creature

1180
01:12:03,119 --> 01:12:07,039
of impossibility, neither mammal nor bird, but something in between

1181
01:12:07,159 --> 01:12:13,119
that moved the gliding smoothness of a snake. Creepy, very creepy.

1182
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,000
And so once the creature starts eating the rabbit, she

1183
01:12:18,039 --> 01:12:20,319
starts biting it with magic. But during the spell, the

1184
01:12:20,319 --> 01:12:24,079
creature tells her to stop Indadel's voice. She tries to

1185
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:26,439
keep going, but it's having hard time, and then it

1186
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:30,399
springs forward, pinning her down. The creature starts choking her,

1187
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,680
so she shoots it. As it's dying, the creature turns

1188
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:38,720
into Dadeo. I'm like, how much can she fucking go through? Man? Yeah,

1189
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:46,439
that's enough. Yeah, and then she nails her brother. Oh

1190
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,560
my god, because the witch turned him into this creature.

1191
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,359
But she didn't know it was him. She thought with

1192
01:12:52,399 --> 01:12:58,039
the witch, oh my god. Oh and sorry, Dale's body

1193
01:12:58,119 --> 01:13:02,439
just disappears after she Spanish just kills him. Yeah, and

1194
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:06,479
he's like, you must live on Yeah, very beautifully said, yeah,

1195
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:11,159
I was crying. Yeah. Alba's mom and Arduro leave for

1196
01:13:11,279 --> 01:13:13,760
the town to meet with the mayor, and while they're gone,

1197
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,720
Alba takes advantage of their absence and goes to Los

1198
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:23,319
Pinos to speak to the witch that she thought bewitched Dado.

1199
01:13:24,319 --> 01:13:27,720
Perpetua tells Alba that she is not the one hurting

1200
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,439
her family. She was only trying to warrant Dado, and

1201
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,560
Perpetua is surprised that Alba hasn't figured out who the

1202
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,279
witch is yet, since she has you know, yeah, she

1203
01:13:38,359 --> 01:13:40,880
has to know, but she doesn't want to know because

1204
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,720
Alba has a gift of portents and he is also gifted,

1205
01:13:45,319 --> 01:13:50,920
and it seems to run in the family. Before revealing

1206
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,720
that she's talking about Arturo, Perpetua says that he used

1207
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,439
to come with the DeSoto Boy. And this is where

1208
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:01,359
I was like, oh my god, really there, Yeah, I

1209
01:14:01,399 --> 01:14:05,760
didn't realize it was I do. Oh wow, I was

1210
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:11,279
a little slow when I was reading this. Anyway, Well

1211
01:14:11,319 --> 01:14:13,479
I knew something was wrong. Yeah, like I knew he

1212
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,600
was there was something super off about him. So here

1213
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,920
I was like, yes, that's right, he is the one

1214
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,720
doing all this anyway, So he used to come with

1215
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,560
this the boy, and he soon asked a lot of questions.

1216
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,720
Abat doesn't believe, and I'm like, come on, but she

1217
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,079
doesn't want to. You know what's so funny when when

1218
01:14:32,079 --> 01:14:35,399
she was like, I'm surprised you haven't figured it out yet.

1219
01:14:36,359 --> 01:14:42,720
The which craft whatever runs in the family, and he

1220
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,880
whatever has abilities like you blah blah, and like I

1221
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,640
kept picturing them the same from the office, when Oscar's

1222
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,680
asking Dwight where him and Angila did it, and he's like,

1223
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,199
you know where, and then yeah, was like, he's like,

1224
01:14:56,239 --> 01:15:01,479
where do I where? And he's like I just like smiling. Yeah, pictured,

1225
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,600
But you know what I think at the same time,

1226
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:09,159
Artudau really did well for himself when he he did

1227
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:12,199
what was talking so he ar Tudo really did well

1228
01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:15,159
for himself when he was talking shit about these superstitions. Yeah,

1229
01:15:15,239 --> 01:15:18,640
because he like, it could never be him. Yeah, exactly,

1230
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,560
And he's this sophisticated city boy who would never stoop

1231
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,920
to that lave. So yeah, I think that's one of

1232
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,520
the biggest reasons she doesn't believe it's him. She can't

1233
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:32,560
even fathom that it's him. Alright, where was I? Alba

1234
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,920
doesn't believe pert Petua so Berbeto was like, all right,

1235
01:15:36,039 --> 01:15:39,680
set a test for him to place. The test is

1236
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,439
for her a place of flower against his lips while

1237
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,319
he's sleeping, and if he's a warlock, it's going to wilt.

1238
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,520
Alba refuses to accept that her uncle would be evil,

1239
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,199
and she accuses Perbeta of cursing him to become evil

1240
01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:55,720
to what end? Al to what exactly? Yeah, come on, Alba.

1241
01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:59,199
Perta is so chill about this because she's like, no,

1242
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:03,880
you'll see, child, you will see. And she also tells

1243
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:08,199
albat that Arturo killed her daughter, Elena. And in an

1244
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:12,079
earlier scene that we might have skipped and Arturo are

1245
01:16:12,119 --> 01:16:14,840
having their gross flirty moments and Alba tries to guess

1246
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:18,560
the name of Arturo's supposed girlfriend and she actually guesses

1247
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:22,680
the name Elena, and he gets so upset at this,

1248
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,279
and this is why, and I wonder if it was

1249
01:16:25,279 --> 01:16:29,039
like her subconscious and her witchid senses, Yeah, that told

1250
01:16:29,079 --> 01:16:30,680
her to say the name Elena, but she didn't even

1251
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,840
think about that. She just was guessing randomly, so she

1252
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,640
was writing, and yeah, he gets super upset at this.

1253
01:16:37,359 --> 01:16:41,119
Perpetua tells Albada Arturo is a te yo yo kani

1254
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,359
and that he ate Elena's heart raw because she had

1255
01:16:44,359 --> 01:16:47,960
gifts too and it would make him more powerful. Perpetua

1256
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:51,439
shows Alba her hands. She's missing three fingers from one

1257
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,560
hand from when she tried to kill Arturou, and she

1258
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,399
explains that he turns his enemies into animals. And I

1259
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,920
think this maybe is when Albert starting to realize, oh

1260
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,479
my god, that's what happened to Dado and so yeah

1261
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,640
it is Ardudro. So yeah, just like the wild animal

1262
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,399
that killed Valentine and Perpetua tells Alabad that nothing can

1263
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,840
kill Arturo, and she tells her to just run away,

1264
01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:18,640
but begs to know how, and so Perpetua tells her

1265
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,760
a story of a young woman who was being bit

1266
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:25,000
by a sorcerer and falling under the sorcerer's spell until

1267
01:17:25,079 --> 01:17:28,159
they make the girl's blood poison to the sorcerer, and

1268
01:17:28,279 --> 01:17:30,680
once the sorcerer was a sleeper unconscience, they cut its

1269
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:35,399
head off, which this is where Minerva got the idea. Yeah,

1270
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:38,399
she learned it from and he learned it from Peto,

1271
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,239
and this on the story goes. Just because I thought

1272
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:42,720
it was super cool. There is one story. It's about

1273
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,800
a young woman who finds herself under the spell of

1274
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,600
a sorcerer. He flies into her room each night and

1275
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,439
bites her on the neck. For six nights this happens,

1276
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,520
and her family is distraught because each day she grows

1277
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,199
weaker and sicker. But on the seventh day, her brothers

1278
01:17:56,279 --> 01:17:59,520
consulting wise woman. The wise woman tells him to burn

1279
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,760
a painting of their mother, who loved the girl and

1280
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,560
has died. Mix the ashes with salt and the crush

1281
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,479
the wing of a moth, and place them in a

1282
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,680
cup filled with wine, whispered to the wine, telling it

1283
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,399
to protect the young woman. Then have the girl drink

1284
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,800
the wine and open the window to the chamber so

1285
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,399
that the sorcerer may fly in. The white woman tells

1286
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:23,560
him the sorcerer will drink. Actually, that's the clodest part, oh,

1287
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,520
the first part. Yeah, that's how you make the poison

1288
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,199
the poison. Yeah. Yeah, So if anyone, if this happens

1289
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:32,520
to anyone, just try that, remember that poison recipe. Keep

1290
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:37,880
that in mind for the Yes. That night, Alba does

1291
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,119
the flower thing, and sure enough it wilts once it

1292
01:18:40,199 --> 01:18:43,800
touches Ardo's lips. But before she can leave the room,

1293
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,000
Ardros creepy ass, wakes up like he was he knew

1294
01:18:47,039 --> 01:18:48,560
this was going to happen, like he has an Alba

1295
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,560
radar or some shit. He probably does, No, he probably does.

1296
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,119
He threatens Albyan to not screaming for help and confesses

1297
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,760
he needed to get rid of theo because he wouldn't

1298
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,560
sell the farm, and he also killed Valentine because of

1299
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,560
his medaline. He tells her he wants her to be

1300
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,560
his woman, that he knows she wants him too, and

1301
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,880
that she basically summoned him before letting her go, he

1302
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:17,079
bites her and kisses her. Alba is sick the next day,

1303
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,800
and when her mom checks on her, Alba tries to

1304
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,840
tell her the truth about Arturo, but she can't get

1305
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,159
the words out because her tongue is hied. Similarly to

1306
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,479
Jennie and god Jinny who couldn't write Carolyn's name or

1307
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,960
her dad Carolyn's dance name, and she wrote wing Grave

1308
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,119
because she couldn't say it, very same thing. Arturo and

1309
01:19:36,159 --> 01:19:40,159
her mom talk about selling the farm when Alba's mom leaves,

1310
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,680
and when Alba's mom leaves, Ardudo to Alba is like, haha,

1311
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,760
I did that because he's a bitch. Yeah. Alba resolves

1312
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,119
herself to get rid of Arturo and end all of

1313
01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:53,800
this because he's just gonna keep doing this. Alba goes

1314
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,880
to Arturo and asks what his plan is, and Arturo says,

1315
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,960
once he sells the ranch, they can live in Bachuco

1316
01:20:00,079 --> 01:20:03,600
while he travels with the money, their money, the money

1317
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,920
he makes from them, and he implies that he's going

1318
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,520
to kill his dad and sister Julia to collect their

1319
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,239
inheritances too. All right, I did it, and he's like,

1320
01:20:13,279 --> 01:20:17,119
come along so I can keep drinking your blood. He

1321
01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:19,960
also confesses to hurting her while drinking her blood because

1322
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,640
he was jealous of Valentine and that's what when she

1323
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,600
has that dream of something biden her, it was actually

1324
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,560
him and it hurts her because he does that apartments. Yeah,

1325
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,640
because he's a bitch. Yeah. Arturo's like, I'll have you

1326
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,680
no matter what. So Aliba proposes a deal. She'll comply

1327
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,600
with him if he doesn't sell the farm, which Arturo

1328
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:45,439
agrees to. So she because this is she needs to

1329
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:50,000
do this to make her plan happen, right she They

1330
01:20:50,279 --> 01:20:57,359
do it sex with Yeah, okay, it's disgusting. Yeah. After

1331
01:20:57,399 --> 01:20:59,800
the data is done, she tries to cut off Arturo's head,

1332
01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:02,640
but he wakes up as soon as the blade touches him.

1333
01:21:03,119 --> 01:21:06,479
Albat manages to run away, but he catches her pretty quickly.

1334
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,239
He pins her down and starts shrinking her blood again

1335
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,800
with no restraint. This time, she kisses him as a

1336
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,159
way to distract him, and he falls for it because

1337
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:18,800
he may be a brujo, but he's a man above all.

1338
01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:26,520
He does keep drinking her blood though while they're doing it. Wait,

1339
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,960
they do it again. Yeah, oh my god, it's like

1340
01:21:30,079 --> 01:21:32,560
her way of distracting him. No, I know, I know.

1341
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:38,840
So they're doing it again. But after a while something

1342
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,920
forces him to slow down. His breathing becomes labored, and

1343
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:46,000
he's like, what have you done. Alba tells Artudo she's

1344
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,840
poisoned him, but she doesn't stop there. She swings and

1345
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,119
acts over Arturo. He tries to get her to stop.

1346
01:21:53,239 --> 01:21:56,399
He tries to convince her they belong together, but she's

1347
01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:01,000
like nah, nah, and she cuts his head off. Six

1348
01:22:01,079 --> 01:22:04,640
weeks go by and Alba experiences important and she knows

1349
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:13,640
she's pregnant with the girl and yeah, no, not Mina's mom,

1350
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:24,119
Minira's grandma. Yeah, yeah, yes, m hm and yeah, and

1351
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:29,760
that's that. And in this part it's no longer like

1352
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:35,000
separating the chapters, like as Minerva is basically ending Carolyn,

1353
01:22:35,359 --> 01:22:38,800
you also get like the paragraphs of this of Nana

1354
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,920
Alba and her like that's super cool. I thought, yeah,

1355
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:53,159
I agree, I agree. Okay, geminy De Beatrice, Yeah, okay,

1356
01:22:53,199 --> 01:23:00,800
so now we're almost done. One more storyline, Beatrice, this

1357
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,600
is the shortest one, I think, Yeah it is. It's

1358
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:07,520
because it's the manuscript of Virginia of Jinny's disappearance. So

1359
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,239
it starts off with Betty reminiscing how hard the Great

1360
01:23:11,279 --> 01:23:16,039
Depression was for the family, really everyone, and how hard

1361
01:23:16,079 --> 01:23:17,920
it was for a woman during that time too, like,

1362
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,560
for example, they wouldn't get hired if they were married,

1363
01:23:21,079 --> 01:23:25,039
and so, you know, she talks about her only options,

1364
01:23:26,279 --> 01:23:29,039
and she's not rich like Carolyn, right, so she has

1365
01:23:29,159 --> 01:23:32,560
to get her English degree so that she can have

1366
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,079
that to fall back on, you know, if things don't

1367
01:23:36,079 --> 01:23:40,520
work out for her. So Betty talks about putting up

1368
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:44,199
with Carolyn's bed attitude when it came to Ginny, which

1369
01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:47,520
was her then was her new roommate, because really it

1370
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:51,000
was a matter of survival for someone like Betty to

1371
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,399
be friends with someone like Carolyn who was rich. Right. Yeah,

1372
01:23:54,279 --> 01:23:56,640
Carolyn came from the wind Grave family who owned the

1373
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:00,279
wind Grave Manufacturing Company founded in the eighteen thirties and

1374
01:24:00,359 --> 01:24:06,199
had expanded all over Massachusetts, Connecticut and New Hampshire Hampsphere Hams. Sure,

1375
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,359
I've never said that state. I think. I don't think so,

1376
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,640
you Hampshire, Hampshire. I was about to say it the

1377
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:19,720
same way I heard, and Betty mentioned that Genny transferred

1378
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,479
to their college in the second year and that she

1379
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,119
was beautiful but she was new money, so she wasn't

1380
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:28,640
readily accepted by Carolyn and the other girls. And then

1381
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,279
on top of being new mini, she was Catholic, not

1382
01:24:31,399 --> 01:24:34,319
Protestant like all the New England people. And she was

1383
01:24:34,319 --> 01:24:37,600
a spicy white you know, they had barely become white Italians.

1384
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:41,640
Yeah yeah, so yeah, she was looked down upon by

1385
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,359
people like Carolyn and uh yeah, Genny was eccentric. She

1386
01:24:45,399 --> 01:24:47,800
was a spiritualist, and she worded everyone out. But Betty,

1387
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:54,199
they became close friends, they became besties. Also, Beatrice liked her. Yeah,

1388
01:24:54,239 --> 01:24:58,760
Betty had a girl crush. She liked her. Yeah. Yeah.

1389
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,880
And Carolyn and Jenny argued all the time, and this

1390
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,880
put Betty in a hard place because she couldn't really

1391
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,039
side with Ginny because she had to, you know, keep

1392
01:25:08,079 --> 01:25:10,560
being friends with someone like Carolyn, have someone like that

1393
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,800
on your side. But you know, she loved she loved Ginny,

1394
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:19,279
but her love for Jenny was unrequited because soon Ginny

1395
01:25:19,359 --> 01:25:23,760
and Editar got together. Yeah, Jenny was straight, she was not. Yeah,

1396
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:28,600
she wasn't for the girls like Betty was. Unfortunately for Betty.

1397
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,720
Yeah yeah, but would it happened so cute? It would

1398
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,439
It would have but then Carolyn wouldn't have wanted to

1399
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,520
kill her because of Edgar, you know, true, well that

1400
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,439
wasn't the only reason. Whatever. Eventually everyone in the house

1401
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:45,279
became friends with Jenny, at least amicable, and so things

1402
01:25:45,279 --> 01:25:48,920
were financei October up until the Halloween Ball, when Betty

1403
01:25:49,079 --> 01:25:53,439
notices a darkness in Jenny's eyes. Two weeks before Halloween,

1404
01:25:53,640 --> 01:26:00,439
a young man named Santiago, a bad bunny, the man

1405
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,720
later rumored to have run away with Ginny, shows up

1406
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,000
at the house to work as a handyman, and the

1407
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,119
rest of the girls start making fun of Ginny that

1408
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:09,920
she's being flirty with Santiago, and really she's just being friendly.

1409
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,279
She's the only one talking. She's just being kind, She's

1410
01:26:12,319 --> 01:26:15,800
just being a normal kind of person, right. But although

1411
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,600
back then we should know, like there was different gender

1412
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:22,239
norms and rules, of course, you know. Yeah, but so yeah,

1413
01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:24,439
everyone makes in her. They think she's being flirty. She's

1414
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,399
not really being fluty because she loves Edgar. And so

1415
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,359
at the Halloween ball, everyone thinks it's weird that Carolyn

1416
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:34,760
is being overly flirty with Edgar. But more importantly, Benjamin

1417
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,520
tells a group about the wind Grave business not doing

1418
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:42,319
too hot, and he warns Ginny that Carolyn probably wants

1419
01:26:42,359 --> 01:26:47,039
to steal editor from her for the money, and Jenny's like, no,

1420
01:26:47,319 --> 01:26:49,680
there's no way Edgar would ever do that, and in fact,

1421
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:54,880
we just got engaged. Betty's heartbroken of course for Betty. Yeah,

1422
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,840
and my dream would have been for her and Jenny

1423
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:02,199
to just live together forever. Yeah, I would want that

1424
01:27:02,319 --> 01:27:05,720
for Betty. Yeah. At the end of the ball, everyone

1425
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,359
realizes that Ginny is missing, and it's been over half

1426
01:27:09,359 --> 01:27:12,760
an hour since anyone's seen her. When she does finally

1427
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:18,000
show up, she is She's running towards them and something's wrong.

1428
01:27:18,079 --> 01:27:21,279
She's sobbing. She tells them that she was looking for

1429
01:27:21,319 --> 01:27:23,279
Betty when all of a sudden there was a bend

1430
01:27:23,359 --> 01:27:26,560
on the road and she couldn't see anyone. Oh, but

1431
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,439
she felt like, yeah, just like Thomas. Yeah, well, I

1432
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,359
mean this happened to yeah, And she felt like she

1433
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:37,760
was being stared at and followed, and she heard footsteps

1434
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,600
that didn't sound human, and she felt like breathing, there's

1435
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,760
breathing down her neck, but nobody was there, and everyone's like, oh,

1436
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,880
it's probably just some guy pranking you. Of course it's

1437
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:51,600
not yeah. So three days after the dance, Betty and

1438
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,399
Ginny and the friends they hold the seands also Virginia.

1439
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,359
Ginny can't talk to ghosts, and so she holds a

1440
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,560
seance because she wants to find out more about what's

1441
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,720
happened to her, and she wants to talk to her mom,

1442
01:28:03,239 --> 01:28:05,920
who is dead, so her mom's ghost and so four

1443
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,840
of them are needed for the sands. So Betty, Ginny, Carolyn,

1444
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,720
and some other girl named Maryatte all participate and everything's

1445
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,880
chill until Ginny asks spirits, maybe seek your counsel, and

1446
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,119
then all of a sudden there's two knocks, quick one

1447
01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:21,720
after the other, and the knock can get so loud. Well,

1448
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,319
then the knocking gets loud on the table shakes. Then

1449
01:28:24,359 --> 01:28:26,960
Ginny gets all stiff, her eyes are wide open and

1450
01:28:27,039 --> 01:28:30,479
she's like she says, you're in deadly peril for Ginya

1451
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:35,000
in a voice that's not hers. And when Ginny comes

1452
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,279
to she's just hella drained. She doesn't remember anything. And

1453
01:28:39,319 --> 01:28:42,199
the next day is Sunday, and Sundays are when most

1454
01:28:42,239 --> 01:28:45,560
of the boyfriends come to visit. Because all all contact

1455
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:50,920
between the two genders, it has to be supervised at

1456
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,800
the house so that's why they all come on Sunday.

1457
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,640
So all the boyfriends come on Sunday, but Edgar doesn't come,

1458
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:02,000
so Ginny stays in her and Betty's room alone. Betty

1459
01:29:02,399 --> 01:29:04,399
wants to go upstairs to check on Ginny because she's

1460
01:29:04,399 --> 01:29:07,039
worried about her, and then Carolyn butt in and she's like,

1461
01:29:07,079 --> 01:29:08,760
can you be a third reel for me and David?

1462
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,000
She doesn't like David because she likes end her right, right,

1463
01:29:13,039 --> 01:29:15,359
and she's only she says, I'm only keeping him around

1464
01:29:15,399 --> 01:29:17,479
in case things don't work out with someone else, and

1465
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,079
she's talking about her yeah, but no one knows An

1466
01:29:20,319 --> 01:29:24,279
is engaged right to Ginny, and Betty feels like she

1467
01:29:24,279 --> 01:29:28,439
can't say no again because of Carolyn's position, right, yeah.

1468
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,880
And so then during this, Carolyn also tells Betty that

1469
01:29:32,199 --> 01:29:34,359
she thinks Ginny just made up the whole saying thing

1470
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,159
that was an act and that Genny just wanted attention.

1471
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:42,199
So she's already like starting the bad reputation rumors of Genny. Yeah.

1472
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,560
And so when Betty's finally able to go check on Genny,

1473
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,760
Jenny's in her room and she looks outside and she says,

1474
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,399
sees Jenny talking to Santiago, but it looks like a

1475
01:29:51,399 --> 01:29:55,239
normal conversation, nothing weird, and once Ginny gets back inside,

1476
01:29:55,319 --> 01:29:57,960
she tells Betty that she was talking to Santiago about

1477
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,800
him needing a job and that she might Carolyn about

1478
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,039
it if there's a position for Cynthiago at the mill.

1479
01:30:04,199 --> 01:30:06,439
And then they talk about the sands and Genny says

1480
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,479
that the spirit was frightened, So something's going on, you know,

1481
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:14,239
something that spirit would be scared of. M h. While

1482
01:30:14,279 --> 01:30:18,279
they're talking, Ginny does end up sharing that back in California,

1483
01:30:18,359 --> 01:30:21,960
she did almost run away with the guy that her

1484
01:30:22,079 --> 01:30:26,039
dad didn't like. So that and she's saying this too

1485
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:30,680
to Betty, to Betty okay, not Carolyn, No, not Carolyn okay,

1486
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,239
because Betty goes to check on Ginny and they talk

1487
01:30:34,319 --> 01:30:38,239
about Carolyn right, maybe getting a job for something that

1488
01:30:38,319 --> 01:30:42,000
goes right, But Jenny tells Betty that Jenny almost ran

1489
01:30:42,039 --> 01:30:44,960
away with the guy. Yes, right right. I just feel

1490
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,960
like she would have sent this to Carolyn, who then

1491
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,079
would spread like, oh, well she's did it before. Yeah,

1492
01:30:50,399 --> 01:30:54,520
And she doesn't share it with Carolyn, but it does

1493
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,920
get around later and it is part of the reason

1494
01:30:59,119 --> 01:31:03,760
her investigation her disappearance not really investigated. So it's November

1495
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,600
now and Betty finds that Genny's been reading books about witchcraft.

1496
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:11,600
She's obsessed, and she's also been acting weird, like she

1497
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,439
thinks someone's following her, watching her from the window. She's

1498
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,920
seen floating orbits of the lights hovering in the trees.

1499
01:31:20,199 --> 01:31:23,239
And one morning, Ginny wakes Betty up and she rushes

1500
01:31:23,279 --> 01:31:26,680
her outside to show her footprints by their window, proof

1501
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,960
that someone's been watching her. And that morning Betty hears

1502
01:31:31,039 --> 01:31:35,439
Carolyn and Carolyn's dad. She hears Carolyn's dad telling Carolyn,

1503
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,880
you need to pick up the pace. Things are getting dire,

1504
01:31:38,359 --> 01:31:40,520
and Karlyn's like a little bit easier if we only

1505
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,960
needed one, and she's like, why do we need two?

1506
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,399
And then the dad's like, well, you know why symmetry.

1507
01:31:47,319 --> 01:31:49,880
Wow Wow, Okay, I must have not been paying attention

1508
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:55,399
because I don't remember this. Yeah. Yeah. So then Betty

1509
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,680
goes to talk with Carolyn. She's like, hey, I'm kind

1510
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,439
of worried about Ginny, and Karen's like, gosh, she probably

1511
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,640
just you know, wants attention again, and then they hears scream.

1512
01:32:04,319 --> 01:32:06,960
So it turns out there's a dead rat in Genny's sheets.

1513
01:32:07,039 --> 01:32:12,039
That's why she's screaming, just like the yeah, the dead

1514
01:32:12,159 --> 01:32:14,920
rat that she saw. So then r after that, it thinks,

1515
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,640
give me a break. Everyone leaves and Betty comes back

1516
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:22,199
earlier because she needs to work. She's a working goal. Yeah,

1517
01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:26,359
she needs money. Yeah, And she's surprised to find Ginny

1518
01:32:26,359 --> 01:32:29,000
there at the house because everyone usually comes back way later.

1519
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:32,560
And it turns out that Ginny came back earlier than normal,

1520
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:36,119
earlier than planned, because Edgar got mad at her because

1521
01:32:36,119 --> 01:32:39,000
she was playing. She was placing in prospective charms at

1522
01:32:39,119 --> 01:32:42,720
his family's house, and she's just trying to protect herself.

1523
01:32:43,039 --> 01:32:45,680
But he thinks doesn't accept anywhere except that he thinks

1524
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,039
she's creepy. But he regrets that. Oh, I'm sure because

1525
01:32:48,119 --> 01:32:50,600
later on he does. But this has to do. This

1526
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,720
has to be why. He later asks, like obsessed will

1527
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:55,119
find out what happened to her? He's like, if only

1528
01:32:55,159 --> 01:32:58,680
I had believed her, Yeah, yeah, And they also have

1529
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,399
another fight because during her trip, she comes back early

1530
01:33:01,399 --> 01:33:06,199
because while she's over there, Ginny's dad calls her because

1531
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,560
someone sent him a letter expressing concern of her mental health.

1532
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:14,159
Probably Carolyn, I can only assume, Yeah, and so yeah, everyone,

1533
01:33:14,199 --> 01:33:16,079
because then if the dad is like, you need to

1534
01:33:16,119 --> 01:33:19,239
come back home, and then she goes and she disappears, right,

1535
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:23,319
make her job easier, Yeah, And so yeah, everyone thinks

1536
01:33:23,359 --> 01:33:28,479
Genny's losing it basically, Yeah. After Thanksgiving, Ginny only gets worse.

1537
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:36,319
And who's there to step in, Carolyn? Wow, what a coincidence.

1538
01:33:37,119 --> 01:33:39,239
So at this point Edgar is so worried for Ginny

1539
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:42,960
and he asks Betty to talk Ginny to seeing a doctor.

1540
01:33:44,199 --> 01:33:47,279
And it's now December and one night Betty and the

1541
01:33:47,319 --> 01:33:50,079
rest of the roommates can't find Ginny and one of

1542
01:33:50,119 --> 01:33:52,840
them is like, oh, she's probably with Santiago, just a

1543
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,520
baseless rumor, and this actually pisses Betty off. She's like,

1544
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,439
stop fucking spraying shit around. They all the fuck She's not,

1545
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:06,960
are you, dumb bitch? And Genny gets home after curfew

1546
01:34:07,079 --> 01:34:09,920
and she ends up telling Betty that she got lost

1547
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:14,159
coming back from the library because the path just changed again.

1548
01:34:14,399 --> 01:34:19,039
This has happened before. Yeah, and Betty's then after right, yeah,

1549
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,640
and Betty is like, maybe she's seeing a doctor, but

1550
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:30,119
this only pisses Ginny off, and Genny talks about feeling

1551
01:34:30,199 --> 01:34:33,600
like there's an invisible noose around her neck tightening every day,

1552
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:37,359
and that something terrible is chasing her. And Betty's like,

1553
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:42,399
maybe you should see a doctor. But Jenny, she's frazzled,

1554
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,600
right she walks out, She's like, it's there between the trees,

1555
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,920
hiding in the shadows. But they don't see anything once

1556
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,960
they get outside. But that night both of them hear

1557
01:34:50,079 --> 01:34:55,000
a high pitched noise like an owl. Yeah, an owl.

1558
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,960
And so then we're at the day that Genny goes missing.

1559
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,159
Betty is working at a dinner party in exchange for

1560
01:35:01,279 --> 01:35:03,079
being allowed to stay at stone Ridge or the win

1561
01:35:03,159 --> 01:35:06,279
or break, and she's expected to work during the whole party.

1562
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:10,600
Betty tries to convince Ginny to stay somewhere else until

1563
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,560
two PM, which is the time that Edgar's supposed to

1564
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,239
pick her up. But Ginny's like, I'm fine, I'll be

1565
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,000
I'm fine. I'm safe in my room for many curses

1566
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,520
because she puts up those protective charms, you know, yeah,

1567
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:24,680
And Betty's like, oh my god, because she thinks, you know,

1568
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,960
Jenny's lost a goddamn mind. Yeah, And so before leaving,

1569
01:35:29,079 --> 01:35:31,239
she's like, hey, if something happens, call me at this number.

1570
01:35:31,279 --> 01:35:34,159
I'll be here. And around seven pm, Ginny calls Betty

1571
01:35:34,319 --> 01:35:36,720
and she's like, I know who'll bewitch me, but I

1572
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,239
can't speak their name because I've been tongue tied. And

1573
01:35:40,359 --> 01:35:44,359
then she's like, if something goes wrong, find bell, book

1574
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:48,720
and candle before hanging up. Whatever that means. Betty never

1575
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:53,680
finds out what that means. Yeah, and Betty streaked out, understandably,

1576
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:57,119
so she leaves a party. But when Betty gets to

1577
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,800
their room, Ginny isn't there, but her and her knitting

1578
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:02,600
stuff are still there. All her stuff is still there,

1579
01:36:03,119 --> 01:36:05,680
everything mm hmm. And she's nowhere in the house either.

1580
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,319
So then Betty goes outside and she find the trail

1581
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:12,439
of footsteps and follows them. But soon the footprints just

1582
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:15,920
become a jumble of steps and they end near a tree.

1583
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,840
And on this note, there's a single drop of blood.

1584
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:24,079
And then Betty at you know, her story ends by

1585
01:36:24,199 --> 01:36:27,000
just her sharing how botched the investigation into Genny's so

1586
01:36:27,039 --> 01:36:30,279
the parents was and how over the years Edgar was

1587
01:36:30,319 --> 01:36:32,960
only one who understood how she felt about Genny going missing.

1588
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,520
And then of course we learned what actually happens in

1589
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:41,319
min Neva's story when Carolyn tells her how did she

1590
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,920
get her to get out of her protected room? It

1591
01:36:45,039 --> 01:36:48,319
just wasn't strong enough for both, for both of them,

1592
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:53,159
her dad and her. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, this makes sense.

1593
01:36:55,039 --> 01:36:58,000
Oh and later when min Neva is in the same room,

1594
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,039
Carolyn can't go in. But it's just Carolyn, it's not Carolyn.

1595
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:06,920
And she's also protected by Ginny's ghosts like robbers, not

1596
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,039
allowing Carolyn to enter the room. Yeah, okay, but they

1597
01:37:10,039 --> 01:37:12,039
also could have drawned her with something too. We don't

1598
01:37:12,079 --> 01:37:14,800
know that's true. True. I'm curious, I wonder, but I

1599
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:16,800
think it was that that it was just she wasn't

1600
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:20,560
strong enough against both of them, especially the dad being

1601
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:26,760
an older warlock. Yeah that makes sense, all right, And

1602
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,079
this is all timelines. Now, yep, we did it. We

1603
01:37:30,399 --> 01:37:34,520
got through it. And you know what, for three separate timelines,

1604
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:45,319
that was pretty good. Good discussion questions. The first one,

1605
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,960
as min Neerva investigates Beatrice Tremblay's life and the events

1606
01:37:51,039 --> 01:37:54,239
behind the vanishing, she recalls stories her grandmother told her

1607
01:37:54,279 --> 01:37:57,800
about witchcraft. Well, lessons do you think Minerva draws from

1608
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:02,600
her grandmother's stories? I mean, I think that she has

1609
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:06,760
learned to just like everything, no, well everything, but like

1610
01:38:08,239 --> 01:38:10,680
that these things are real, that things this. Yeah. She

1611
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:15,800
has learned to believe in witchery yeah yeah, and it's

1612
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:20,520
real and dangerous and her Nana Alba taught her how

1613
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:24,720
to protect herself. Yeah, and she follows those things and

1614
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:29,000
she wins. She also I think she gets more in

1615
01:38:29,039 --> 01:38:31,399
tune with her own patents because at the end she

1616
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:35,319
realizes like, oh, these aren't just migraines. Yeah, that too,

1617
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:38,239
That's true. So much so that she can't even trust

1618
01:38:38,359 --> 01:38:44,439
Noah at the end, even though they were friends. I thought, well, actually,

1619
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,520
since you said that, I think that kind of brings

1620
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,720
us to the next question. Oh, what did you make

1621
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:53,279
of the relationship between Minneva and Noah. How would you

1622
01:38:53,359 --> 01:38:55,920
describe their relationship? What do you think it draws them

1623
01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:02,520
to each other? Oh? Okay, So I thought she was like, oh,

1624
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:08,560
he's just another Brady kid, privileged Braddy, you know kid.

1625
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:13,640
But then as they talk more, I thought they were

1626
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:15,960
getting close, and not in a romantic way, but I

1627
01:39:16,039 --> 01:39:17,800
thought like in a friendly way, like they were going

1628
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,920
to be friends. I kind of felt like there was

1629
01:39:21,079 --> 01:39:23,960
vibes between them that even me. Nedava's like, you know,

1630
01:39:24,039 --> 01:39:27,439
when they're like going on coffee dates, he's like talking

1631
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,600
to her a law more and he's like, you're so

1632
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,840
close off blah blah blah, and there I feel like,

1633
01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:34,720
I feel like he tries to like flow with her,

1634
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,560
and she's kind of like because I think there's even

1635
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,319
some parts that She's like, I could I could see

1636
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:42,760
something there, you know, So yeah, I feel like I think, yeah,

1637
01:39:43,079 --> 01:39:48,119
I feel like, if obvious, leave the witchcraft, the bewitching

1638
01:39:48,359 --> 01:39:51,079
hadn't happened, take away who his mama or who his

1639
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:54,880
grandma is, I feel I mean, I don't think anything

1640
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:58,119
would ever happened serious, right, because he has his future

1641
01:39:58,159 --> 01:40:01,279
planned out, he has he's engaged. I think I skipped over.

1642
01:40:01,319 --> 01:40:04,439
I don't think I mentioned any of that. But he's engaged,

1643
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:07,840
you know, because these this Foumily does arranged marriages and

1644
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:12,640
whatnot to keep the riches and the business going. But

1645
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:16,600
he clearly doesn't want that life, although at the end

1646
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,720
he kind of resigns himself to it. And at first

1647
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,840
they're kind of like opposite, right, Like she she's like,

1648
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:24,600
I'm way better than you. I'm like, waste more than you,

1649
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,560
but I earned this. I yeah, it's just a baby

1650
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:35,000
worked for this. Yeah, I'm Barbie and you're Can not

1651
01:40:35,119 --> 01:40:37,600
the can I want to be with. Yeah, right, although

1652
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:40,479
she kind of does. I think she kind of does. Yeah,

1653
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:45,039
well maybe in the middle. Yeah, not at the end. Yeah,

1654
01:40:45,279 --> 01:40:49,319
not at first and then yeah yeah yeah yeah, I

1655
01:40:49,359 --> 01:40:51,399
don't know. I mean I think that she does kind of,

1656
01:40:52,159 --> 01:40:54,039
you know, is drawn to him a little bit more

1657
01:40:54,279 --> 01:40:56,439
like in the middle. But if I had to think

1658
01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:59,720
about what draws her to Noah, I feel like I

1659
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,479
can't really say. I mean, he's kind of charming and

1660
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:07,680
he's funny, he's he's friendly. I would say his like

1661
01:41:09,039 --> 01:41:13,000
not honesty, but like he well, no, I guess his honesty,

1662
01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:15,720
like he says things how they are like yeah, I know,

1663
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,880
that's why. I like they're kind of like opposite. Yeah.

1664
01:41:19,159 --> 01:41:21,479
I think that's what draws maybe each other yea for

1665
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:23,960
her to him that she is not like that, yehond

1666
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,079
But also she kind of she doesn't have time to

1667
01:41:28,199 --> 01:41:32,880
waste on friendly like ten conversations. She wants to get,

1668
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,840
you know, into the thick of like the deepness of conversations.

1669
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,560
That's one of the what the one of their fights

1670
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:40,960
is about. I think after he takes her back to

1671
01:41:41,039 --> 01:41:43,359
the dorm after the party and she's like, oh, so

1672
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:44,720
you only want to talk to me when you need

1673
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:46,479
something from me, And she's like, I didn't ask him

1674
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:52,119
for anything. Yeah, yeah, so yeah. I think they're the

1675
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,840
Their differences in personality and upbringings and just way of

1676
01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:01,039
being is what draws into each other. Yeah, but I

1677
01:42:01,079 --> 01:42:09,399
guess they're not friends. They're friendly a little bit. Okay,

1678
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:18,239
let's see me. Neva story is set at Stone Ridge,

1679
01:42:18,279 --> 01:42:21,800
a fictional university inspired by the school the author attended.

1680
01:42:22,279 --> 01:42:26,039
What makes university such popular settings for spooky and dark tells?

1681
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:28,600
What are some of the local legends you learned about

1682
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,600
your own schools? Oh? My god, schools, they're scary. They're

1683
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,560
scary places. There're a nightmare. That's why there's the perfect

1684
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:38,239
setting for a spooky story. Let me tell you my

1685
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,680
recurring nightmare is that, like when I'm stressed and I

1686
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:43,960
know I'm stressed, is because I had this nightmare. I'm

1687
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:48,560
in school. It's usually high school or college. Sometimes it's college,

1688
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:52,000
and I'm like, I don't have my schedule printed out.

1689
01:42:52,199 --> 01:42:54,199
No one can tell me where my classes are, No

1690
01:42:54,279 --> 01:42:56,680
one can help me find my schedule. Sometimes I find

1691
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,600
you and you're like, bitch, I don't know where you're

1692
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:02,159
supposed to be. No one's helping me, and I'm in

1693
01:43:02,199 --> 01:43:04,439
the wrong class, and actually I don't even know because

1694
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:06,720
I don't know where I'm supposed to be. I have

1695
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:08,840
had that I'm like in high school, and then I

1696
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:10,800
go to the school counselor's office and they're like, you

1697
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:14,680
don't even go here. And then I have a different

1698
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:18,680
version for your college and that's that's the one where

1699
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:22,920
I find out I have a class I'm in and

1700
01:43:23,079 --> 01:43:25,760
I have gone all semester because I didn't realize I

1701
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:29,479
wasn't enrolled in this class. So then I show up

1702
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:36,840
and it's the final, okay, and it's mad final. No. Yeah,

1703
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,640
same actually have that version too. Yeah, I have a

1704
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,720
work version where and I just dreamt this. I'm not

1705
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:45,399
even stressed out really about again, but I dreamt this

1706
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:48,880
like just the other night, and it was that I

1707
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:52,000
had to be at work early because I had a

1708
01:43:52,079 --> 01:43:54,920
deadline and I had to file something by like in

1709
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:57,439
the morning, early in the morning, and then I wake

1710
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:01,199
up that I missed my alarm and it's like ten am,

1711
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,720
and I never I think I haven't been to work

1712
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:10,479
and I missed my deadline. That's funny anyway, past our

1713
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,720
nightmares of school and I did I did love all

1714
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:17,479
the tali ins with New Hampshire and Boston and the

1715
01:44:18,279 --> 01:44:21,079
I was gonna say that missing people and yeah, and

1716
01:44:21,239 --> 01:44:23,000
of course that we didn't really get into in the recap,

1717
01:44:23,039 --> 01:44:24,920
but the book goes into a little bit like about

1718
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,039
that the people like missing and the uncanniness, the mysterious,

1719
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:32,359
uh mystery of it, and like other like when Noah's

1720
01:44:32,359 --> 01:44:35,079
sharing his ghost story with Mi Netava, they talk about

1721
01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:37,920
some other local legends like it's so spooky that i'mosphere,

1722
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,119
I love it. Yeah, and that side of the country

1723
01:44:40,279 --> 01:44:43,079
super haunted. Yeah a school and that side of the country, oh,

1724
01:44:43,119 --> 01:44:46,399
super haunted. But yeah, no, schools is a place of

1725
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,119
huntings and there's so many different energies, so many different

1726
01:44:49,159 --> 01:44:53,279
people going, and sometimes traumatic things happen at school more

1727
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:58,479
now than ever unfortunately before. Unfortunately, but I mean that's

1728
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,720
why there's so many legends of like, oh, the school

1729
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,439
theater is haunted, and like the ghost of a kid

1730
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,520
who was in theater and then like died, my suicide

1731
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:10,199
haunts this theater. There's so many sorts like that, and

1732
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:12,760
if for a local college, for us. It was a

1733
01:45:13,319 --> 01:45:15,439
Mills College. Is that what it's called. Yeah, and that's

1734
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:19,600
a really old college college and more confidence. You passed

1735
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,039
by the gates and it looks I literally driver them

1736
01:45:22,039 --> 01:45:23,880
all the time because that's the exit that I take

1737
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:27,199
to go visit our dad. Yeah. Yeah, and yeah it

1738
01:45:27,319 --> 01:45:31,159
looks scary, it looks haunted. I don't remember the legends anymore.

1739
01:45:31,279 --> 01:45:33,600
We did. We do have an episode on them. Yeah,

1740
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,720
one of our school episodes. We I think I was

1741
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:38,720
a guy stat that way before I was from in it.

1742
01:45:39,399 --> 01:45:44,399
Yeah you were, yeah, yeah, but there's like at least

1743
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:47,880
three or four stories in that college alone. Like yeah, So,

1744
01:45:50,119 --> 01:45:53,199
was there a scene that you found most frightening or unsettling?

1745
01:45:54,239 --> 01:46:00,000
Oh yeah, I think the one with well it happened

1746
01:46:00,159 --> 01:46:03,560
to mine and Jenny, but I think we really get

1747
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:07,119
a more feel for it in minette Ra's timeline. But

1748
01:46:07,199 --> 01:46:11,199
when she is lost in the the wherever she's walking,

1749
01:46:11,319 --> 01:46:14,399
like yeah, it changes and it's dark and she hears

1750
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,279
someone following her. I think that's that was the scariest.

1751
01:46:17,279 --> 01:46:19,600
There's like footstep, but there's someone there and she feels

1752
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:21,920
like she's being watched. That was I think the most

1753
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:25,840
un settling scene. For me, either that one or no,

1754
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:29,600
I think that one. Okay, for me, it was the house, Uh,

1755
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:33,479
when Minette vs at the house and then what happens first?

1756
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,520
I don't remember what happens first, but she hears like

1757
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,359
a knock at the house, the phone rings and they're scratching,

1758
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:44,560
and that was so eerie. Yeah, you know what? Yeah,

1759
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,600
that one was. That one was pretty bad too. What

1760
01:46:48,239 --> 01:46:53,920
similarities you notice between the women and there are timelines? Man,

1761
01:46:54,079 --> 01:46:57,199
what similarities? Well, I guess I should say the rest

1762
01:46:57,199 --> 01:46:59,000
of the question, and what are some differences in the

1763
01:46:59,079 --> 01:47:02,079
way that they respond to the supernatural happenings they encounter,

1764
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,079
and what do you think accounts for those differences? Okay,

1765
01:47:06,239 --> 01:47:09,479
I so before I get into the similarities, I guess

1766
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:16,600
the differences. So Alba and Minerva, it's part of their

1767
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:20,319
culture and their traditions, right, because Nana Alba passes on

1768
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:26,479
this cultural way and took a while to get there. Yeah.

1769
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:29,840
But the only reason she's able to be at Doudo

1770
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,680
is because she takes the lessons from Valentine and she

1771
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,840
and her dad and Petru Petua and she you know,

1772
01:47:37,359 --> 01:47:41,680
she's able to to fight because she believes and she

1773
01:47:42,279 --> 01:47:45,680
she did even when Valentine was the one saying you're

1774
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:48,159
being bewitched. She believed the bewitching is true. She just

1775
01:47:48,319 --> 01:47:50,760
didn't know who was caused. She didn't and she didn't

1776
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:52,560
want to believe it was causing it. But it's not

1777
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,800
because she didn't believe in which crist right. And once

1778
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:57,840
she learns and and she has a way to fight it,

1779
01:47:58,039 --> 01:48:01,079
she's fighting it, you know what I mean? Yeah, and

1780
01:48:01,199 --> 01:48:03,279
that's something she passes on to what is the thing

1781
01:48:03,359 --> 01:48:06,399
she says, you learned to live with it or something

1782
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:10,880
like that. Yeah, and then me Neddva, she has all this, like,

1783
01:48:11,119 --> 01:48:13,960
like I said, cultural wisdom from Nana Alba, and so

1784
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,000
it's part of her survival. Like that's why she's able

1785
01:48:18,039 --> 01:48:21,520
to fight because she she knows how to beat Carolyn.

1786
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:24,960
No one else knew how to be Carolyn. And that's why. Yeah,

1787
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:28,239
that's why she lives. Yeah. Yeah, and Genny. Nobody believes her,

1788
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:30,239
you know, Okay, Genny, I was like, what about Jenny,

1789
01:48:30,239 --> 01:48:32,800
But like nobody believed me nedda Ba either, But but

1790
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:37,119
we never took it upon herself. She doesn't need Yeah. Yeah,

1791
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:40,239
and Jenny, I don't think Genny knew I need to

1792
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:42,880
Genny was more in tune with like the ghosts and

1793
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:46,319
the spirits, just like commas. Yeah, oh my god. Jenny

1794
01:48:46,319 --> 01:48:48,560
and Thomas were basically the same. Yeah they were, and

1795
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:50,840
they just didn't they didn't have like that knowledge about

1796
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:54,800
which is like Neda did. Yeah. Yeah, and even though

1797
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:58,439
all of them believed, yeah, they didn't know how to

1798
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,800
fight it. Yeah, Genny didn't have the knowledge. Yeah, what

1799
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:06,119
about to Marty's can you think of any I'm sure

1800
01:49:06,159 --> 01:49:08,760
there are that they all believed that. They all believed,

1801
01:49:09,079 --> 01:49:11,319
like I'm all like, I'm sure there are, yeah, the

1802
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:17,399
other otherness, paranormal, normal, Yeah, yeah, it's just the only

1803
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:20,640
the difference is that Jenny didn't know how and they

1804
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:24,479
all had the abilities which made them targets. Yes, yes,

1805
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:29,840
And just the difference with Alma and Alba and me

1806
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:33,359
Neva is that they were able because of their culture

1807
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,560
and these stories being passed down and where they lived

1808
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,359
and you know, their background, they knew how to fight

1809
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:40,800
it or they learned how to fight it, and Jenny

1810
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,640
didn't have that. And also I guess Genny was alone

1811
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:48,119
because me did well, No, I don't think anyone really

1812
01:49:48,399 --> 01:49:50,520
believed me Neva. Me never had her ancestors with her,

1813
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:54,640
but Alba had Valentine and Valentine and Perpetoin. I was

1814
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,800
so so devastated, but yeah, she had them, and her

1815
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:01,279
dad also imparted like this knowledge on her although he

1816
01:50:01,399 --> 01:50:03,640
wasn't there, but she knows she had his wisdom with

1817
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,239
her too. Yeah, and I think even though in the

1818
01:50:06,359 --> 01:50:09,760
sense of like Jenny and mi Nevra were both like alone. Yeah,

1819
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,920
but min Neva again had her ancestors with her basically,

1820
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and Jenny didn't have that, And I don't really chose

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important of ancestral knowledge. Yeah yeah, wait, wait, what do

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you think will happened to me Neva after afterward the

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01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:27,119
story ens, Like do you think she's going to get

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01:50:27,159 --> 01:50:29,680
more into the witchery stuff? Like she's I think she's

1825
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:33,119
fully in now, Oh, she's fully in. And I think

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01:50:33,159 --> 01:50:36,520
she's gonna become a famous author. She's gonna become Syria.

1827
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:40,399
I think that's who is going to Yah. Yeah, she's

1828
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:44,840
gonna finish her dissertation, She's going to publish. This book

1829
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:46,359
is going to be like written in a way where

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01:50:46,359 --> 01:50:49,439
it becomes so popular. She's going to finish like Beatrice's

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01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:53,520
unpublished manuscript about Jenny that's going to be completed. She's

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01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:56,920
gonna tie it into her her. She's gonna write the

1833
01:50:57,039 --> 01:51:05,840
bewitchy She's gonna write and then she and then she'll

1834
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:13,600
write more books. Oh yeah, no, I'm serious. No, yeah, no,

1835
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:26,520
I'm believing. Okay, okay, I'm picking up what you're putting down. Yeah, okay, good, good, Okay.

1836
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:33,079
Should we rate the book final dots? Okay? This book

1837
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,920
for me ten out of ten, ten carn stains out

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01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:40,680
of ten, carn steins r P. Yes, the cat, yeah,

1839
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:45,479
thet Yeah. I mean this book had everything that I

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01:51:46,199 --> 01:51:49,119
would want in a book. It had timelines. Oh sorry,

1841
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:51,279
I was gonna say. It also gave me the most

1842
01:51:51,319 --> 01:51:54,720
perfect fall vibes, even though it doesn't exactly happen in

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01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:56,920
the fall, but for some reason, it just gave the falls,

1844
01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:00,199
except from it's set from like October to or yes,

1845
01:52:00,239 --> 01:52:02,680
it starts in the summer break, remember, yeah, from Netta.

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01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,840
But yeah, just I don't know, it's just the college settings.

1847
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:08,920
Let me pictures that beautiful, those beautiful pictures of the

1848
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,560
East coasts in the fall. I started reading this in

1849
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:15,079
the summer beach and I finished it in the fall

1850
01:52:15,319 --> 01:52:17,920
with all the trees changing colors. Amazing that was the

1851
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,880
perfect time to be reading this, Yeah, yeah, it really was.

1852
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:23,119
But you could even be reading this in December, because

1853
01:52:23,279 --> 01:52:27,079
there's December timeline. This is it's a season book and

1854
01:52:27,359 --> 01:52:32,000
all the scenes that's happened, which means, uh, no, I

1855
01:52:32,079 --> 01:52:34,560
had everything I needed in a book for me. Is

1856
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:37,560
a ten out of ten, Like you said, a timeline

1857
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:41,880
I love like a different timelines, especially with the Nana

1858
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:45,760
Alba and the Minetteva tie in like a yeah, generational,

1859
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:51,000
But it also didn't feel it didn't feel disconnected with No,

1860
01:52:51,199 --> 01:52:54,760
it all tied in together. Yeah, with Beatrice, yeah, through

1861
01:52:55,039 --> 01:52:57,560
through Mi neet Ba and all tied together. Yeah, because

1862
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:02,079
sometimes timelines can go wrong where they feel disconnected, yeah,

1863
01:53:02,199 --> 01:53:06,239
or disjointed or switching back and forth as unnatural, and

1864
01:53:06,399 --> 01:53:10,000
this was not like that, especially how the end of

1865
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:12,800
I don't remem if it. I think it was min

1866
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:16,439
Neva's chapter. How you have the end of nan Alva's

1867
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:18,800
story there as well, Like it was just perfect the

1868
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,239
way it was written. It just blends into the other.

1869
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:26,520
And yeah, again I'm seeing the critiques. I know I

1870
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,000
saw one of them. You haven't seen any critiques, oh

1871
01:53:29,319 --> 01:53:34,439
the the the Alba, Oh well yeah I did see

1872
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:37,199
the about that. We did, say, I feel like our

1873
01:53:37,239 --> 01:53:38,920
thoughts on that a little bit earlier. No, we did.

1874
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:42,479
It's because I saw one specifically. Okay, like share they wrote,

1875
01:53:43,319 --> 01:53:45,359
well it was normal back then. Okay, well it was normal.

1876
01:53:45,399 --> 01:53:47,720
It doesn't mean I gotta like it. You don't have

1877
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,439
to like it to read. No one's liking it. We're

1878
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:55,840
all cringin she she didn't write it. Okay, when I

1879
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:57,800
was reading it, it was it didn't look like it

1880
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:00,520
was meant to be like you're supposed to like it. No, No,

1881
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:04,279
that was a critique. I think these practices that did happen,

1882
01:54:04,359 --> 01:54:08,760
it still happened, unfortunately, So what happens, it still happens,

1883
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:13,000
like to say, and this isn't a celebration of that relationship.

1884
01:54:13,239 --> 01:54:15,439
I don't know, never at any point in fact, it

1885
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:19,439
almost I feel like I feel like Alba was taken

1886
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:23,279
advantage of one hundred obviously, like yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah,

1887
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,640
So I don't know. I don't understand those critiques either.

1888
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:31,920
And even at the end, Alba never like, yes, she

1889
01:54:32,039 --> 01:54:35,239
admires him, she you know whatever, has this crush on

1890
01:54:35,399 --> 01:54:39,000
him that he took advantage of. But at the end,

1891
01:54:39,239 --> 01:54:42,039
she's not thinking of him, like in any positive way.

1892
01:54:42,119 --> 01:54:45,800
She's like, I survived him, Yes, yes, like that was

1893
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,439
the worst thing that happened to her and she survived him. Yeah,

1894
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,359
that's how she describes it, Like, come on, Yeah, so

1895
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:54,760
I don't understand those critiques at all. Yeah either, but

1896
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,199
yeah otherwise, Yeah, perfect book for me. Ten out of ten.

1897
01:54:57,279 --> 01:55:00,279
What about you? Definitely? Yeah, ten out of ten. Okay, Yeah,

1898
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:05,199
again we're biased, Like, well, I feel like I'm obviously

1899
01:55:05,199 --> 01:55:07,279
I love everything she writes, but I have rated other

1900
01:55:07,319 --> 01:55:10,880
stuff like three and a high never twenty five. Yeah,

1901
01:55:12,119 --> 01:55:13,840
it means I still like it. It doesn't mean it

1902
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:17,720
is a fair Yeah, this is a fair rating recommendation

1903
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:29,279
from us. Yes, ten out of ten for sure. Yeah, okay,

1904
01:55:29,479 --> 01:55:32,199
I think that brings us to the end of the episode. Yes,

1905
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:34,640
and we do have our next book already picked and

1906
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:37,439
read by me, we do. What is it? Oh my god,

1907
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:40,840
Oh my god. It's The Possession about It by the ass. Yes,

1908
01:55:41,239 --> 01:55:44,600
I'm halfway through. I'm almost done. Yeah, I gotta start

1909
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:46,640
working on those, I guess, but I mean that'll be

1910
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:50,319
probably January. I think January. Yeah, I'm sure you'll be done, right.

1911
01:55:50,359 --> 01:55:52,479
That's going to try and be done. We were ambitious,

1912
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:55,560
we were overly ambitious. So I finished, I'd finished. It

1913
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:57,800
was me this time. Yeah, we said we were hoping

1914
01:55:57,880 --> 01:55:59,439
to finish both of these books by the end of

1915
01:55:59,439 --> 01:56:01,800
the year. But look, we got done with one. They'll

1916
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:05,760
be witching, yeah with one. And uh yeah, we'll be

1917
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,000
back with our next book Club episode for the Possession

1918
01:56:09,039 --> 01:56:11,640
of the Ads. So I won't share anything, even though

1919
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:16,800
I'm dying too. I've been enjoying it, all right. So yeah,

1920
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,039
other than that, let us know what you thought of

1921
01:56:19,159 --> 01:56:21,439
this book. Did you love it as much as we did? Yeah,

1922
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:23,880
let us know, did you not? Even if you disagree,

1923
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:27,760
you can let us know. Yeah, yeah, and we'll fight you.

1924
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,279
And I'm just kidding, but okay, I guess that brings

1925
01:56:30,359 --> 01:56:33,800
us to the end. Thank you everyone for sitting with us.

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Hopefully you stayed the whole time. Hopefully and even if

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you heard it in pieces, we had a good time

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party about it. So we did. We had a great

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time talking about it. And yeah, I don't know, watch

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01:56:44,399 --> 01:56:51,119
out for dead rats and balls of fire outside that too. Yes,

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all right, stay spooky, we'll catch up one next time.

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