Speaker 1: It's nice eyes.
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Speaker 2: Six one, seven, two, five, ten thirty the number we're
Speaker 2: going to open up the phones here amy generally on
Speaker 2: a Friday at eleven o'clock. From what I understand, Dan
Speaker 2: did something pretty laid back, pretty chill, and I was
Speaker 2: going to do that, but then I decided to go
Speaker 2: with this question because I want to know how you feel.
Speaker 2: How are we doing, USA? How is this country doing?
Speaker 2: I'm very pessimistic, and I'm not a pessimistic person. Now.
Speaker 2: Do I pretend to know everything about politics and current events?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I don't, because I get burned out, I get frustrated,
Speaker 2: I get bored, I get angry, I get depressed. Uh,
Speaker 2: And I will tell you Dan Ray is more well
Speaker 2: versed in it than I might than I am, but
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't believe I've ever been as pessimistic
Speaker 2: or as negative about where our country is at that
Speaker 2: I am right now. And I've lived through some pretty
Speaker 2: tough times. And maybe it's because I was younger and
Speaker 2: more optimistic, and as we get older we become more
Speaker 2: pessimistic or more realistic, or just maybe I'm just a
Speaker 2: grumpy old bastard now. But I you know, certainly remember
Speaker 2: the sixties in the Vietnam War and Watergate and the
Speaker 2: Iran Contra affair and the gas crisis, and I always felt,
Speaker 2: and again I guess because I was younger, that or
Speaker 2: certain inflation, certain economic downturns, that we'll figure it out,
Speaker 2: that will be all right, that will, you know, will
Speaker 2: remain a superpower, which I do think is important. You know,
Speaker 2: I think one of the reasons why we have the
Speaker 2: life we have is because we are a superpower and
Speaker 2: continue to be a melting pot where people pretty much
Speaker 2: get along. And I don't feel that way right now.
Speaker 2: I feel at times we're on the brink of a
Speaker 2: civil war. I don't think this country has been I
Speaker 2: think we're as divided now as we were in the
Speaker 2: middle eighteen hundreds. I really do. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: it's scary, and I think it is a race issue,
Speaker 2: and it scares the hell out of me. It scares
Speaker 2: the living hell out of me. And the fact that
Speaker 2: you know, Donald Trumps president says something about our political system. Now.
Speaker 2: I know that when he was president the last time around,
Speaker 2: the economy was booming. I also know economists have said
Speaker 2: to me and Spartan. People have said to me that
Speaker 2: generally the president doesn't drive the economy. It's not the
Speaker 2: way it works, and history will tell us that. But
Speaker 2: I just look at the options of our leaders and
Speaker 2: I go, we're screwed. Maybe there's just too much information.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't want to know everything about every political leader.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't want to know everybody's flaws. So how
Speaker 2: are we doing? How do you feel about the country.
Speaker 2: Are you optimistic? You know, I look at the basics.
Speaker 2: I look at the work ethic. I look at the
Speaker 2: work ethic of a new generation. Are people willing to
Speaker 2: put in the work? I think people from other countries are.
Speaker 2: I think people from other countries are more hungry. I
Speaker 2: think there is definitely a feeling in this country that
Speaker 2: people feel just that there's a natural right because they're
Speaker 2: an American to live a certain lifestyle. They just deserve it.
Speaker 2: It's granted to us, it's a birthright. And that's a problem.
Speaker 2: That is a big time problem. And I look at
Speaker 2: our political leaders, look at our options. You know, we
Speaker 2: you know. Donald Trump is not a nice man. I mean,
Speaker 2: he is a selfish, egotistical tyrant who, according to the
Speaker 2: country was a better option than what the Democrats provided,
Speaker 2: And I can't really argue with it because Kamala empty suit.
Speaker 2: She told us nothing, she showed us nothing. And how
Speaker 2: arrogant were the Democrats to think that they could pass
Speaker 2: off Joe Biden, who has been, in my opinion, an
Speaker 2: admirable civil servant for the majority of his life. But
Speaker 2: how arrogant were they were that they felt that they
Speaker 2: could pass this man off, who obviously was incapable of
Speaker 2: doing the job. How dumb do you think we are?
Speaker 2: And the Democrats have just become the party of Hollywood.
Speaker 2: And I love Hollywood, believe me. But I mean the
Speaker 2: fact that George Clooney and you know, Oprah are coming
Speaker 2: in and telling people that in telling Joe you should bail,
Speaker 2: I mean, what the hell? I mean? He should have
Speaker 2: been running in the first place. We know that. So
Speaker 2: I blamed the Democrats for not providing a decent option
Speaker 2: to Trump. But maybe Trump's the right guy for the
Speaker 2: right time again. Maybe his economic policies are just what
Speaker 2: we need. Maybe his ego and his isolationist attitude is
Speaker 2: what this country needs, where he's not going to take
Speaker 2: any crap from other countries. You have to belong to NATO,
Speaker 2: though we all understand that that that does not help
Speaker 2: at all. But here you have a guy, you know,
Speaker 2: and Trump, where it looks like the Supreme Court was
Speaker 2: in his back pocket, and the Supreme Court says, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna outlaw TikTok, and Trump admits that's maybe why
Speaker 2: he got elected. And I thought TikTok was gonna get
Speaker 2: Kamala elected. Remember the whole brats, that whole scene that
Speaker 2: backfired completely completely, because what people vote for. People vote
Speaker 2: for their wallet. People vote for who's going to give
Speaker 2: me the best chance to make the most money. Well,
Speaker 2: that's fine, but you also have to have the work
Speaker 2: ethic to want to make the most money. There's a
Speaker 2: great line and I should have looked it up between
Speaker 2: Gene Hackman and Clint Eastwood after Eastwood shoots him in
Speaker 2: uh uh right, I'm spacing it on the movie my
Speaker 2: h Morgan Freeman won an Academy Award I believe for that.
Speaker 2: Where after he shoots Hackman, Hackman says, I don't deserve this.
Speaker 2: Eastwood says, deserve deserve. What you deserve has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with it. There is a there is a sentiment
Speaker 2: in this country that if you are a mere citizen
Speaker 2: of America you deserve a certain lifestyle, or you deserve
Speaker 2: a certain job or a certain level. That worries me.
Speaker 2: That really, that that really worries me. We've had it
Speaker 2: too good, I think in a lot of ways. You know,
Speaker 2: with Biden continuing to bail people out with knowledge you
Speaker 2: can't afford to pay off your loans. Okay, well we'll
Speaker 2: pay them for you. I mean, that crap's got to stop.
Speaker 2: You got to pay your own way, man. Look, you
Speaker 2: just do there. And and Trump's not totally wrong with
Speaker 2: the with the border. There has to be a system
Speaker 2: at the border. There has to be some sort of
Speaker 2: of of just a system where you just don't have
Speaker 2: people just coming running in that that the country can't support.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying everyone that I don't believe you know,
Speaker 2: people that are coming into this country illegally, you know,
Speaker 2: a murderers and rapists. I don't. I don't buy into that.
Speaker 2: But there has to be some sense of organization if
Speaker 2: you're going to come into the country. Then the argument
Speaker 2: can be made that there's a lot of people here
Speaker 2: that don't want certain jobs because they think the jobs
Speaker 2: are beneath them, and those jobs can only be fulfilled
Speaker 2: with illegal immigrants. So how are we doing? How do
Speaker 2: you feel about the country? Do you feel more optimistic
Speaker 2: than me? I hope so will take some calls next
Speaker 2: at six one, seven thirty on WBZ.
Speaker 3: Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
Speaker 3: Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 4: Why is it not the greatest country in the world, professor,
Speaker 4: that's my answer. You're saying, yes, let's talk about fine, Sharon.
Speaker 2: The NEA is a loser.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it accounts for a penny out of our paycheck,
Speaker 4: but he gets to hit you with it anytime he wants.
Speaker 2: It doesn't cost money.
Speaker 4: It costs bolts, It costs airtime and column inches. You
Speaker 4: know why people don't like liberals because they lose. If
Speaker 4: liberals are so Morka, they lose it.
Speaker 2: I'm always hey.
Speaker 4: And with a straight face, you're gonna tell students that
Speaker 4: America is so star spangled awesome, that we're the only
Speaker 4: ones in the world.
Speaker 2: Who have freedom.
Speaker 4: Canada has freedom, Japan has freedom, the UK, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Australia,
Speaker 4: Belgium has freedom. So two hundred and seven sovereign states
Speaker 4: in the world, like one hundred and eighty of them
Speaker 4: have freedom, all right, and you got you a sorority
Speaker 4: girl just in case you accidentally wander into a voting
Speaker 4: booth one day. There's some things you should know, and
Speaker 4: one of them is there is absolutely no evidence to
Speaker 4: support the statement that were the greatest country in the world.
Speaker 4: We're seventh in literacy, twenty seventh in math, twenty second
Speaker 4: in science, forty ninth in life expectancy, one hundred and
Speaker 4: seventy eighth in infant mortality, third and median household income,
Speaker 4: number four in labor force, and number four in exports.
Speaker 2: We lead the world in only three categories.
Speaker 4: Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who
Speaker 4: believe angels are real, and defense spending, where we spend
Speaker 4: more than the next twenty six countries, combining.
Speaker 2: Twenty five of whom her allies.
Speaker 4: Now, none of this is the fault of a twenty
Speaker 4: year old college student, but you nonetheless are, without it,
Speaker 4: not a member of the worst period generation period ever periods.
Speaker 4: When you ask what makes us the greatest country in
Speaker 4: the world, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know what you're talking about. That is the greatest television
Speaker 2: monologue ever that is Jeff Daniels from Newsroom. Amazing, amazing people.
Speaker 2: And that's the way I And that just ties into
Speaker 2: the theme of tonight. How are we doing, USA? How
Speaker 2: do you feel about that? I'm not feeling great. I'm
Speaker 2: not feeling great about it. Stephen New York and change
Speaker 2: my mind? Hello, Steve, you're on WBC AGT.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: What's going on? Kid?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 1: So I have a famous quote and I need you
Speaker 1: to tell me who it is from.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: Boy, I may not be able to run very fast.
Speaker 6: But boy, could I talk.
Speaker 1: That was the last time we talked the Conzo. This
Speaker 1: is the Conzo. I know New York.
Speaker 2: I know who it is. Oh, I know. Why are
Speaker 2: you in New York?
Speaker 1: Because I'm driving a big Rig. That's why my email
Speaker 1: is Stevie big Rig.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, So you're driving. So how do you
Speaker 2: feel about our country right now? Steve?
Speaker 1: Oh? You know me, Gary, I think you know me
Speaker 1: that I am a very optimistic person. And thank god
Speaker 1: Donald Trump getting in and I know I get it.
Speaker 1: And I just want to let you know you are
Speaker 1: very sensible. I give you all the ps for that
Speaker 1: because some on the other side, kid, but you certainly.
Speaker 6: Of course you're roll too, right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh no, the Democrats do it. The Democrat
Speaker 2: it's crazy. But here's the thing, Steve, it's Steve. We
Speaker 2: grew up in the same area, so he was one
Speaker 2: town over. But like in Rumford and Dicksfield in Mexico,
Speaker 2: the area we came from. If you were a Democrat,
Speaker 2: that meant you were pro labor. Everybody that worked in
Speaker 2: the mill was a Democrat. You were for the middle class.
Speaker 1: But that's all changed, sure has.
Speaker 2: It's all changed now. They don't speak to that. I mean,
Speaker 2: when you know Kamala Ran and then I found out
Speaker 2: that they paid Hope to do the whole interview, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that's Jesus my god, that's crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The reality is the Democrats were talking down to people.
Speaker 2: And you know, Trump is insane. I mean, he just is.
Speaker 2: But he doesn't talk down to people, right, he does
Speaker 2: not talk down to people. He talks like a regular,
Speaker 2: He talks with you. He's a great communicator. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the thing, Steve, that that this is going to
Speaker 2: go down. He will be analyzed thirty years from now,
Speaker 2: fifty years of now as one of the greatest communicators ever.
Speaker 2: Because whether he's right or wrong, he still gets people
Speaker 2: to buy in. And when I say right or wrong,
Speaker 2: I meant factually, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this election Gary reminded me of Hillary when she
Speaker 1: was running against Trump and they're all over confident, think
Speaker 1: they were going to win it. But you know, the
Speaker 1: American people have spoken and I would be very pessimistic,
Speaker 1: like you if Kamala'll get in because oh me in.
Speaker 2: My opinion, change my putting in change. I still feel
Speaker 2: the same way. Here's the thing about Trump. The world
Speaker 2: right now is a really fed up place, right, I
Speaker 2: mean it really, and we constantly you know, you think
Speaker 2: people would learn, but they don't. But with the Middle
Speaker 2: East and yet and you know Trump's coming in, so
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden they decide to get in
Speaker 2: the chord? Did decide to? Did they? They decide to
Speaker 2: settle and get a piece agreement because Trump is coming in.
Speaker 2: It reminded me. I don't know if you remember this, Steve,
Speaker 2: but yeah you do. You're my age when Jimmy Carter
Speaker 2: lost to Reagan and the hostages were being held in
Speaker 2: Iran and Carter couldn't get him out. Now, Carter's a
Speaker 2: very smart man and did a lot for humanity, but
Speaker 2: he didn't strike the fear of godden people. Reagan did.
Speaker 2: And as soon as and got in and was elected,
Speaker 2: those hostages were on the plane and you got a
Speaker 2: wonder you know, I'm Trump coming in. Then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, does everybody in the Middle East decide, Okay,
Speaker 2: now we have to behave.
Speaker 1: Yes, because he's a strong leader and we needed that
Speaker 1: for a country to have strong leadership. And it worked
Speaker 1: the first time. It's going to work again and we
Speaker 1: I'm so thankful he.
Speaker 7: Got in there.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm glad. I wasn't close either. I
Speaker 1: expected the election to be close. I was hoping not.
Speaker 1: But anyways, I got on Wei, I get on the
Speaker 1: chat with the morning crew and I mentioned you nicely
Speaker 1: that I'd spoken to you, and one of the people
Speaker 1: on the chat room says, hey, next time you talk
Speaker 1: to Gary, remind him of the Morning show and Ei
Speaker 1: when he was on talking about what's his name from
Speaker 1: Penn States skis to Dusky.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, Curtis yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah yeah yeah. Don't worry, don't worry. I I
Speaker 2: have I have nightmares.
Speaker 1: I missed that I wish I had heard it, but
Speaker 1: he was laughing. He said, does that ask Gary about it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure he was. Believe me, I'm
Speaker 2: sure he was.
Speaker 1: I had heard it, I would have probably supported you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 6: About, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a radio bit that went a little
Speaker 2: out of control.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, too far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will just leave it at that.
Speaker 1: Well, are your phone lines fall right now?
Speaker 2: No, they're not.
Speaker 1: Oh they are not because of you, because of you, Gary.
Speaker 2: Steve, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. We'll
Speaker 2: handle it. Well, we'll talk, well, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2: But the point, you know, that's still the point that
Speaker 2: I wanted to make was, you know, people had know
Speaker 2: the Democrats really messed up, and they've got some work
Speaker 2: to do. They have got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, this is what I wanted to say.
Speaker 2: And you as a you know, you're a working man.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what color your skin is, It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter about your religion, it doesn't matter about quite frankly,
Speaker 2: how you identify. People want jobs. And African American men
Speaker 2: voted for Trump. They did, I mean Africa because and
Speaker 2: they thought that they wanted jobs, and they said this
Speaker 2: guy has a better chance of putting people to work
Speaker 2: than HER's. And that's where people lose track, like this
Speaker 2: is the thing, like how are we doing? Like with America,
Speaker 2: It's it's like everything is We've lost track of the basics,
Speaker 2: lost track of the base, We've lost track of the basics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gary, it's just a big divide now, like when
Speaker 1: JFK was president. That's the last true Democrat that I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm the only Republican out of my
Speaker 1: family in Dicksfield, and everybody and my family were voting
Speaker 1: for the Caucus and he was.
Speaker 5: As weak as you know.
Speaker 1: I talked to Dan. I talked to Dan last week, Gary,
Speaker 1: and it was about Jimmy Cotter, and I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I respect a man like you said his post presidential
Speaker 1: work with the Habitat for Humanity, And I said, but
Speaker 1: I considered him a weak president. And you just gave
Speaker 1: the reasons why. But I asked Dan, Dad, tell me
Speaker 1: what in his estimation they you know, President Cotter respectable,
Speaker 1: that he did a great job. I mean, he didn't
Speaker 1: do a horrible job, but I think he was weak.
Speaker 6: And well, you know what it.
Speaker 1: Was, JFK.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, no, The thing with Carter is it was coming
Speaker 2: off a Watergate. So you know, Dixon was a smart guy.
Speaker 2: He was just paranoid. Yeah, he was paranoid. And history
Speaker 2: historians will tell you that he was more qualified to
Speaker 2: be president than Kennedy. But Kennedy looked better on TV.
Speaker 6: Oh he's more handsome, no doubt.
Speaker 2: I mean, Kennedy was a great communicator, you know, and
Speaker 2: he fit the role well and he just looked better
Speaker 2: than the Nixon. But Nixon got paranoid. That's what killed him.
Speaker 2: And yeah, with Watergate, he got paranoid. They weren't going
Speaker 2: to lose the election seventy two. He wasn't going to lose.
Speaker 2: There was no reason to do the Watergate bull craft.
Speaker 2: He wasn't gonna no way, he was not going to
Speaker 2: lose that to McGovern not a chance. But so people
Speaker 2: felt they needed to get somebody that was the salt
Speaker 2: of the earth, and that was Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 1: Hey, I got a butt in for Let me butt
Speaker 1: in for a second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Do you know where the do you know where it tappens?
Speaker 1: Z Bridges in New York?
Speaker 2: I do very well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm going over right now.
Speaker 2: Well keep keep it between the lines, bro, all right.
Speaker 1: And I look over to the right and I see
Speaker 1: New York City. But hey, I didn't want to interrupt you.
Speaker 1: I know you got out of the calls. Maybe one more,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but leave me with Rob. I want
Speaker 1: to leave you my number. I just you don't have
Speaker 1: to call me or text me. But if I just want,
Speaker 1: if you want to, I just want to provide my
Speaker 1: number and you can. I won't bug you with political
Speaker 1: stuff or ain't crap like that. But since ron O
Speaker 1: Reagan died, the run and joke is that I am
Speaker 1: the master communicator. But I think somebody has dethrown me.
Speaker 1: And I think that's you, Gary go the master communicator.
Speaker 2: All right, Steve will hang on the line. Well, Rob,
Speaker 2: you can get Steve's number. But thanks for calling. We
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Six two, four thirty. How are we doing, USA?
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the country? I mean, Steve's
Speaker 2: he's a big time optimist. I gotta be honest, I can't.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever been this negative. I don't
Speaker 2: know what it is. Sometimes I just don't want to
Speaker 2: leave the house. You know what I'm saying, I just
Speaker 2: that's it. I just I don't want to turn on
Speaker 2: the TV. I do to you know, and it comes
Speaker 2: to all the hearings. Now they the cabinet members. Everybody
Speaker 2: knows everything about everyone. I mean, there were just some
Speaker 2: things I don't want to know, like are you qualified
Speaker 2: to do the job? That's fine, I don't know what
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to know about the dirt
Speaker 2: in the closet. Have you're not breaking a law? If
Speaker 2: you haven't broken a law, but you've got some questionable stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't want to know. Can you do the job?
Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. That's all I want. We
Speaker 2: got a couple of calls coming up. Okay, Rob, we're
Speaker 2: gonna take a break here, try to keep the clock. Well,
Speaker 2: we're gonna try to stay on us now six d
Speaker 2: seven two five thirty. More calls coming up on how
Speaker 2: are we doing USA? On WBZ.
Speaker 3: You're on the Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ
Speaker 3: Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, how we do in USA? What's what we're gonna
Speaker 2: do between now and twelve minut night Gary tag Away
Speaker 2: for Dan Ray on wbz's Night Side. Let's grab Don
Speaker 2: and Belmont, Don, you're up on WBZ, Oh Gary, Don,
Speaker 2: how are we doing?
Speaker 1: Doing great?
Speaker 6: Doing great? I wanted to call because I was on
Speaker 6: my way home and I listened to Dan all off
Speaker 6: and on the night but up staying. I've called in
Speaker 6: it a few times, and you know, last half hour
Speaker 6: was unbelievable. Unbelievable, man, it was always the whole cut.
Speaker 6: The state could have an allegian could have heard what
Speaker 6: you said.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it, Don. I don't think everybody agrees
Speaker 2: with me, but I'm just speaking from the heart.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and maybe we're talking to some friends. Excuse me.
Speaker 6: I was just taking at some Italian bread of the bag.
Speaker 2: That's all right, kid, we all got to eat.
Speaker 6: I know it's gone now this week, coming home this week,
Speaker 6: coming home this week, Uh meeting the hell it was
Speaker 6: kind of unusual to I extend. I thought posting uh
Speaker 6: Trump's schedule for three days. I think Uh. Friday was
Speaker 6: some ceremony at Arlington Cemetery, Lington National Cemetery, and Saturday
Speaker 6: a rally at some arena. It's either in Maryland or Virginia.
Speaker 6: And I was like, he's having a rally while people
Speaker 6: in California are hurting big time is wrong with that guy?
Speaker 2: Well, well you know, well, don listen. He's nuts. Look
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 1: I know he's not.
Speaker 2: But he was a better alternative and in the minds
Speaker 2: of the American people than Kamala Harris. And I understand that.
Speaker 2: I see it. I get it. The thing with Trump,
Speaker 2: oh I hate it. I hate it. Oh believe me,
Speaker 2: I hate it. I would have voted for Dicky Haley.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Trump always wants to run for office.
Speaker 2: That's what he will do as president. He loves to
Speaker 2: be in front of the I mean he loves to
Speaker 2: be in front of an audience. When he's running for office.
Speaker 2: He was dancing to YMCA. I mean even when the
Speaker 2: guy got shot. When the guy got shot, God bless him,
Speaker 2: thank you. He survived, but he raised his fist in
Speaker 2: the air. I mean, he loves to be in front
Speaker 2: of an audience. That's what he does. He is a figure,
Speaker 2: that's what he And he loves rallies because when he
Speaker 2: goes into a rally, he is loved. And I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll analyze it. I don't think he got any love
Speaker 2: from his own man. I don't think he got any
Speaker 2: love as a child growing up and I don't think
Speaker 2: he got any love earlier on in his life. I
Speaker 2: don't think he had a lot of friends. And I
Speaker 2: think that that's why he wrote all the books. That's
Speaker 2: why he loves the attention. He just wants to be loved,
Speaker 2: and that's why he will continue to have these rallies
Speaker 2: when they're not needed. You're right, done, You're right, they're
Speaker 2: not needed.
Speaker 6: There's there's a there's a mental illness thing there. Like,
Speaker 6: I'm the president of the greatest country in the world.
Speaker 6: We've got a big section that's in front where tremendous fires.
Speaker 6: People are hurting. But I got to go before a
Speaker 6: cloud and get adulation and approval to be me.
Speaker 2: That's superstit, absolutely absolutely. But he's in, you know, and
Speaker 2: and and I understand why he's in. I understand it.
Speaker 2: I got to be honest with you, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: you look at Kamala Harris, so you look at Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: and I go, oh, I don't want either of them.
Speaker 6: But one is a common sense you know, he was.
Speaker 6: I liked her common sense and a plan, and so
Speaker 6: she was thrust into it with a hundred days left.
Speaker 2: Yeah they did, they blew it, but yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 2: blew it. Biden blew it. He never did. I agree,
Speaker 2: But I also didn't think. I also didn't think she
Speaker 2: she hit a home run. She didn't come out and
Speaker 2: grab it. I thought she was too passive.
Speaker 6: I had that feeling too, like it hit the top
Speaker 6: of the fence, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I don't even know if I got the defence.
Speaker 2: Don You're a great call, Thanks, buddy, Alan Chelmsford, you're
Speaker 2: up on WBZ. Hello, Al, you're on night Side. All
Speaker 2: are you there, Buddy? All right, and we lost Al.
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. Let's go to Tina, my friend Tina
Speaker 2: and Musnic. You're on WBZ.
Speaker 8: Hey, Tina, Hello, Hi, Oh, I'm fine. I just turned
Speaker 8: into your show about eight minutes ago. So I'm kind
Speaker 8: of at a loss of what everything you've been talking about.
Speaker 8: But from what I gathered, you want to know about
Speaker 8: the country and the state or the state of America.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the United States of America?
Speaker 8: Not very good? And the two things that are coming
Speaker 8: across my mind now is, and I'm trying to understand
Speaker 8: it correctly, two different things. And it's really occurring in
Speaker 8: the past two weeks is that number one people have
Speaker 8: said in other programs that Jimmy caught. It was a
Speaker 8: very weak president and that what he should have done
Speaker 8: when they took the hostages was that he should have
Speaker 8: blockaded Iran so they wouldn't, you know, be able to
Speaker 8: import export.
Speaker 2: You should you should have been in bargos, right right,
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 8: However, the one thing he did do, he did they
Speaker 8: came back alive. Because if he would have done the embargo,
Speaker 8: how do we know that those people in Iran are
Speaker 8: the people who held the hostages, wouldn't have killed them.
Speaker 8: So I think you're gonna give him credit for the
Speaker 8: fact that they did come home alive. So I just
Speaker 8: wanted to give.
Speaker 2: You that well, Tina, But before you go onto, I
Speaker 2: want to make a point about that before we go
Speaker 2: on to the next topic here, and don't forget your point,
Speaker 2: because I have a tendency to do that. Here's the
Speaker 2: thing that people forget. There was a rescue attempt by
Speaker 2: the Carter administration, and I believe it was Jody Powell,
Speaker 2: who was in his cabinet, who met and they had
Speaker 2: special forces that were gonna go in and make a
Speaker 2: rescue attempt, and there was a mechanical problem with the
Speaker 2: helicopter and they couldn't and the helicopter was the helicopter.
Speaker 2: It didn't crash, but they were forced to make a
Speaker 2: landing because they had a mechanical problem. That killed Carter's reputation.
Speaker 2: Now Carter isn't like helicopter, he's not working on the
Speaker 2: health helicopter. The guy served his country. I mean, you
Speaker 2: can make the argument that Trump was a draft dodger.
Speaker 2: Carter served his country. He was in the Navy. He
Speaker 2: was a nuclear scientist for the United States Navy. Yes,
Speaker 2: but this is all perception. Because that helicopter, that helicopter
Speaker 2: crashed and they couldn't go through with the rescue. Carter's
Speaker 2: reputation took ahead, So that's right, you know. And he
Speaker 2: took ahead, and Reagan came in and looked the part. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're not wrong.
Speaker 8: The other thing that upsets me, Okay, I'm just trying
Speaker 8: to find out the truth. I'm an old lady. I'm
Speaker 8: always looking for the truth. I don't like the fact
Speaker 8: that they're trying to ban TikTok because the way I
Speaker 8: look at it, Yeah, Chinese Communist Party, Chinese communism is
Speaker 8: different from Russian communism, and I don't see myself China
Speaker 8: as an adversary. I see them as a trading partner,
Speaker 8: and I don't think there's anything wrong with TikTok and
Speaker 8: the bigger in the bigger scope of things. What do
Speaker 8: you think about my ideas that I just shared with you.
Speaker 2: I think that they're very reasonable, and I will just
Speaker 2: share this with you. I I agree with you to
Speaker 2: a point. And this is where you and I separate.
Speaker 2: China is very important to our economy. There's no question
Speaker 2: you are absolutely right about that. China is very important
Speaker 2: to our economy. A twenty five percent tariff that Trump
Speaker 2: wants to place on that country, it's not a good idea, Okay.
Speaker 2: That's not a great idea that I know.
Speaker 8: Okay, But when the.
Speaker 2: United States government goes to the Supreme Court and says
Speaker 2: we have information about TikTok that will further substantiate why
Speaker 2: you should ban it. I look at TikTok and I
Speaker 2: go it looks harmless to me. My kids do it.
Speaker 2: It's everywhere. I have friends that make money doing it,
Speaker 2: you know, with so it looks pretty like okay. So
Speaker 2: if the Chinese government gets my address, who cares? You know,
Speaker 2: I really don't care. But the one thing that is
Speaker 2: when the government goes to the Supreme Court is look,
Speaker 2: there's something else going on here. I want to believe
Speaker 2: the government that China is using it for evil purposes
Speaker 2: that risks our national security. And when that.
Speaker 8: Happens, can't you say that you can blame social media
Speaker 8: in general?
Speaker 2: Well, yes you can. Look, information is everywhere. It's out
Speaker 2: of control. It's out of control. Like you can do
Speaker 2: your best, don't give out your social Security number, protect
Speaker 2: you're finding it, protect your finances. But it's hard. I mean,
Speaker 2: the digital Highway is massive. Who knows where it goes,
Speaker 2: who knows what ends up on the dark web. I
Speaker 2: mean I've kind of thrown up my hands with it
Speaker 2: that you know, at some point in time you're going
Speaker 2: to get hacked.
Speaker 8: But I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2: But TikTok is run by the Chinese government, and the
Speaker 2: Chinese government is looking to do some things that benefit
Speaker 2: them that don't benefit us.
Speaker 8: And that's life and business and the social media.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the bottom line, well they are, but China
Speaker 2: is not looking up for the bottom line and to
Speaker 2: make money. China is looking out to get information or
Speaker 2: do something to the United States that hurts us in
Speaker 2: the world stage, that they are a threat to us.
Speaker 2: They are a business partner, yes, but the government feels
Speaker 2: that they are a threat to us and a threat
Speaker 2: to our safety. That's why they want to shot it down.
Speaker 2: Because if you think about it, Donna, I mean, Tina,
Speaker 2: excuse me, if you think about it, We've never done this.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've never the United States has never done this.
Speaker 2: I mean, and you want to talk about we've had
Speaker 2: We've had media outlets say nasty things about our government.
Speaker 2: We've had media outlets that are racist, that are homophobic,
Speaker 2: but we say, hey, free speeche we let it ride.
Speaker 2: We let it ride. So it's got to be I
Speaker 2: I look at it this way. It's got to be
Speaker 2: pretty bad for them to want to shut it down.
Speaker 2: That's my thing. I trust them, but I hear you.
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. I get it.
Speaker 8: I get I don't trust them. I don't trust the government.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to. I have to trust them on
Speaker 2: this one, Tina. Thank you for the phone call. All
Speaker 2: good stuff. Six one seven, All right, take care six
Speaker 2: one seven, four, ten thirty. We're gonna get to Alan Chelsford.
Speaker 2: He'll take us home. Coming up next here on WBZ.
Speaker 3: Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
Speaker 3: Life Side Studios.
Speaker 2: I'm WBZ News Radio Gary Tank, Dan Ray feeling finishing
Speaker 2: things up. Been a great show tonight. Really has been
Speaker 2: talking about the TikTok band Lake Lively and it ends
Speaker 2: with us and Justin Baldoni that's just a mess. He's
Speaker 2: gonna lose badly on that. And quite frankly, he should
Speaker 2: talked about Brabes, the new head coach of the Patriots,
Speaker 2: and my friend, my friend Tanya Ray Fox. So all
Speaker 2: good stuff. Uh and now how do you feel about
Speaker 2: the USA? How are we doing? Be honest, I'm a
Speaker 2: little down. Maybe it's just because I'm older. Maybe I
Speaker 2: realized that everybody puts on their pants one leg at
Speaker 2: a time. But I long for the days when we
Speaker 2: looked up to our political leaders, or I would look
Speaker 2: at a political political leader and say, you know what,
Speaker 2: that person's smarter than me. We're in better hands with
Speaker 2: he or she in charge. And I just don't feel
Speaker 2: that way anymore. All right, Alan Chelmsford, how you're up
Speaker 2: on WBZ? Yeah, that's up? How you doing?
Speaker 7: I just want I just wanted to comment on your
Speaker 7: opening statements. I tend to agree about ninety nine percent
Speaker 7: of what you said. I think it was really straightforward
Speaker 7: and it says where we're at. I tend to be
Speaker 7: a little more positive though, than you were, or that
Speaker 7: you feel.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad. How come? Why are you more positive?
Speaker 1: How old are you?
Speaker 5: Gary?
Speaker 9: I am sixty okay, I'm seventy four, so I've seen
Speaker 9: a little bit more.
Speaker 7: Than you over the years.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I'm in.
Speaker 7: Business for myself. I'm still working. I started my business
Speaker 7: I was twenty years old.
Speaker 9: In blue collar in construction, so I'm out there with
Speaker 9: a lot of blue collar people. And I voted for
Speaker 9: Trump both times, but the second time.
Speaker 7: Very hesitantly right. But I didn't like the alternative.
Speaker 2: Well that's the problem. Yes, agreed, and.
Speaker 7: Since he got in, I didn't think he was gonna
Speaker 7: win by that much, and he did. And a lot
Speaker 7: of people that I've talked to that I know were
Speaker 7: Democrats before or voted Democrat kind of came around because
Speaker 7: there wasn't really any other alternative.
Speaker 2: Well, the Democratic Party has been the Democrat I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: let me hold you a Yeah, the Democratic Party has
Speaker 2: abandoned their base. I mean they just had correct they
Speaker 2: have abandoned their base. They have gone too far to
Speaker 2: the left too, and they've become too arrogant. And they've
Speaker 2: gone too far to the left with the Hollywood All.
Speaker 2: They've become much too arrogantep and they have forgot, they
Speaker 2: have forgotten what the Democrat Party has been made of,
Speaker 2: which is basically hardworking people, regardless of race, regardless of race.
Speaker 7: And I think I think that because they gave out
Speaker 7: so much over the years, that they've actually ruined some
Speaker 7: of the younger kids today to be hard workers. You know,
Speaker 7: we're trying to get kids to shovel snow. Twenty five
Speaker 7: thirty years ago, I had kids lined up, their parents
Speaker 7: would drop them off when they were in high school,
Speaker 7: and they would shovel snow for us and make a
Speaker 7: night's pay or weekend's pay. Today, I don't want to
Speaker 7: shovel snow. I'm getting thirty dollars an hour.
Speaker 2: Well, I know we sound like a couple of old bastards,
Speaker 2: but you're preaching to the converted. You're absolutely right. I mean,
Speaker 2: you are absolutely right. I agree one hundred percent. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I've gone into restaurants and I've worked at radio.
Speaker 2: My whole life. I started working in radio in high
Speaker 2: school and that's that's what I did. I worked at
Speaker 2: the Kittery Trading Post part time when I got out
Speaker 2: of college to supplement my radio income, which wasn't great.
Speaker 2: But I had friends of mine that waited tables, they bartended,
Speaker 2: and they just crushed it on tips. I've gone into
Speaker 2: restaurants now in my hometown and they'll are like, half
Speaker 2: the thing is shut down because they can't people, they
Speaker 2: can't get people to work as servers. What has happened
Speaker 2: is that that generations have worked so damn hard to
Speaker 2: give their kids a great life. The kids are soft.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a fact. And I could sound like
Speaker 2: an embarrass it all I want, but.
Speaker 7: It's oh and I'm guilty of it. Give it to
Speaker 7: thank God my daughter.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, fortunately my son, God
Speaker 2: blessed him when he was home on break. He loves
Speaker 2: money and he's worked multiple jobs. He saved his money.
Speaker 2: You know, he's investing in the market. I'm not worried
Speaker 2: about him, but there and he he has never shot
Speaker 2: away from hard work. I'm fortunate, But you're right, I mean,
Speaker 2: and shovel and snow that was a great job. Because
Speaker 2: it was seasonal. You didn't have to commit. You could
Speaker 2: go out and make a hundred bucks in a night,
Speaker 2: and it just doesn't happen anymore. Al you're you agreed, agreed, agreed, agreed,
Speaker 2: Let's go to boy. God, this is just old men complaining.
Speaker 2: Pelvis and Middleton. You're up on WVZ.
Speaker 5: Gary, what's up? What's up?
Speaker 2: Bud?
Speaker 6: I love you, I love you.
Speaker 5: I'd love to hear you back on the radio. He's
Speaker 5: listen to you and Zoe lac back on the other
Speaker 5: channel there.
Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 5: So I grew up at Myopia Hunt Club in Hamilton,
Speaker 5: mass Over at the Polo Fields. I built my business around,
Speaker 5: you know, landscape design and construction, a lot of those
Speaker 5: high end golf course guys whatever, and the same thing
Speaker 5: like you hired the Guatemalan guys. I hired a bunch
Speaker 5: of these guys at big money, thirty forty dollars an hour.
Speaker 5: You get to a point where you don't you don't
Speaker 5: have any young American options anymore. All the all the younger,
Speaker 5: all the all the generation. Now they want to make
Speaker 5: a TikTok video with their feet or their chest and
Speaker 5: they're going to make a ton of money on it.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe.
Speaker 5: But the problem is I will tell you from personal
Speaker 5: experience real quick, and this is something you could look up.
Speaker 5: But one of the guys I had worked with me
Speaker 5: for a very long time, hard working Guatemalan guy did
Speaker 5: a lot of brickwork for US, high end brickwork, patios,
Speaker 5: outdoor kitchens, whatever. He was picked up by the Ice
Speaker 5: last last year in the North Strow Mall. They recognized
Speaker 5: his face. He was wanted for out rape and extortion
Speaker 5: and all tends.
Speaker 6: Some of the shit.
Speaker 5: We would have no idea. He was such a good guy,
Speaker 5: he was around my kids, he got paid well, we
Speaker 5: would never know who he was. This is what happened.
Speaker 5: He got reported in twenty eleven for this and he
Speaker 5: came back here four years later. We hired him unknowingly
Speaker 5: because he's you know, looked like a sweetheart, did did
Speaker 5: hard work the vetting process.
Speaker 2: Gary.
Speaker 5: That's the problem. It's like, I have nothing against anybody
Speaker 5: who wants to make a better life for themselves, but
Speaker 5: a country with no borders is no country. Well, you
Speaker 5: and I love I love Quebec City. You and I
Speaker 5: cannot walk into Quebec City and start a business with
Speaker 5: our hands open. Free medical, free education, free food, free housing.
Speaker 5: It's never going to happen. Right, were the only country
Speaker 5: who allowed that, and that is disgraceful. And that's why
Speaker 5: the latest one in Revere, who was a friend of mine,
Speaker 5: who's a Revere lieutenant, they accompassed a ton of heroin
Speaker 5: and sentinel last week and Revere, right, I mean it's dangerous.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Pelvis got thirty seconds. We got to go. No, I
Speaker 2: agree with you. I think you're absolutely right. Look, I
Speaker 2: want people to come in here and start a new life.
Speaker 2: The border's got to change. It's just got to. It's
Speaker 2: it's just got to. Thanks buddy, great call. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thanks everybody, Rob Brooks, Marita, you're the best. All right.
Speaker 2: I'll be back in February. This is WBZ. Take care.