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<v Speaker 1>This is a clip from Beyond Truth. You can access

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<v Speaker 1>the entire episode now on our website and all podcast platforms.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be asking what if three Body Problem

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<v Speaker 2>is not just fiction? What if it's a warning. This

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<v Speaker 2>story has everything we talked about on Beyond Truth. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got alien contact, we've got secret government programs, we

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<v Speaker 2>got signal from space, scientists dying mysteriously, virtual reality. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got hidden organizations, human betrayal, and the terrifying idea that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the universe is not safe.

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<v Speaker 1>The show has it all, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The story asked one huge question, if humanity receives a

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<v Speaker 2>message from space, should we answer it? And this is

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<v Speaker 2>where things get even stranger. Former President Barack Obama publicly

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<v Speaker 2>praised the book. He called the series wildly imaginatively and

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how massive the scope was. He joked that

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<v Speaker 2>this problem with Congress felt small compared to the story

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<v Speaker 2>where aliens are about to invade Netflix creator even tried

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<v Speaker 2>to get Obama to do a cameo in the series,

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<v Speaker 2>and he reportedly joked that there's if there was ever

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<v Speaker 2>a real alien invasion.

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<v Speaker 1>He should save himself for that crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, before I move on from that just a few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, maybe it was a couple of months ago, now,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't Obama on an talk show or something like that

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<v Speaker 2>come out and say aliens are real?

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly after that, Trump came out and say, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well I got some stuff too.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when, you know, he talked about releasing the files,

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<v Speaker 2>which he is released a little bit now. But Obama

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<v Speaker 2>did come out just a couple of months ago and

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<v Speaker 2>actually say that aliens are real.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. So with this with him saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>Tells me that when the whole disclosure thing does come

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<v Speaker 2>around here this summer, he's gonna be heavily involved. You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see more of Obama. There's a prediction for you

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<v Speaker 2>right there. He's saving himself for the big event that's coming,

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<v Speaker 2>rather than just doing a little cameo in this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought that that's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's clues everywhere on what's going on here. So

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<v Speaker 2>does that prove Obama knows something? I would think so

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<v Speaker 2>of being a president, I would certainly assume that they

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<v Speaker 2>are in the know. I mean, who is then if

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<v Speaker 2>they're not, you know what I mean? But that's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole another show, I guess, right, So why would a

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<v Speaker 2>former president be so interested in his story about alien invasion, secrecy,

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<v Speaker 2>human betrayal, and government managing an impossible threat. Tonight we're

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<v Speaker 2>going into the meat of it. So the three Body problem,

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<v Speaker 2>the Wow signal, the Dark Secret theory, no, sorry, the

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<v Speaker 2>Dark Forest theory. Okay, there's a lot of things in

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<v Speaker 2>this show. It's not just one subject here. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different things, but I do believe they tie

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<v Speaker 2>into each other. There's a reason why they have these

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<v Speaker 2>stories in this one thing, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Dark Forest theory, that's something else that you

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<v Speaker 2>can google if you want to just check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Dead and Missing Scientists we did do a show on that. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I think this show will kind of add on to

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<v Speaker 2>it and whether fiction is preparing us for something real,

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<v Speaker 2>which I do believe. I do believe there's something common here.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is the three body problem? The basic story

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<v Speaker 2>is this humanity discovers an alien civilization from a nearby

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<v Speaker 2>unstable star system, very similar to the whole Nibiru the

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<v Speaker 2>on ANOCHI that kind of sort of the same kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Vibe to it, I would say, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>In the Netflix series, they are called the sand Tea.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what these alien race is called sand Tea. In

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<v Speaker 2>the book, there are called the Trisolorians. Try Solarians, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, try that tells me that something three. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that's something else, but I we'll pin

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<v Speaker 2>that and we'll get back to that. Their planet exists

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<v Speaker 2>in a chaotic system with three suns.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes their world.

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<v Speaker 2>Has stable errors where life and civilization can grow. Other times,

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<v Speaker 2>the three sons create chaos. Their planet burns, freezes, or

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<v Speaker 2>become completely unlivable. Their civilizations rise and collapse over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again. That sounds very familiar as well. See that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that they've lied to us about all these

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<v Speaker 2>resets that we've had, and so we don't remember anything. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>They are talking about sun un flares, they're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>could have this kind of stuff happen. So it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a far stretch to think that this stuff isn't happening

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<v Speaker 2>on other planets as well, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is why it's called the three body problem

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<v Speaker 2>in real science. The three body problem is about how

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<v Speaker 2>difficult it is to predict the motion of three bodies

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<v Speaker 2>interacting with gravity. In the story, the science problem becomes

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<v Speaker 2>a nightmare. The Santique cannot survive forever on their planet,

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<v Speaker 2>so they look for a new home. Does it sound familiar?

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<v Speaker 2>And the fine Earth? But the invasion does not begin

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<v Speaker 2>with ships in the sky. It begins with the signal

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<v Speaker 2>a human scientist answers some message from space, even after

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<v Speaker 2>being worn not to okay. The first major warning of

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<v Speaker 2>the story is simple. Maybe the universe is not waiting

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<v Speaker 2>to be contacted. The universe is dangerous. Say that's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing we don't know. In the three body Problem, the

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<v Speaker 2>disaster begins when Earth sends a message into space.

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<v Speaker 1>A warning comes back. Do not answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's the warning that comes back, because if Earth answers,

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<v Speaker 2>the alien civilization will know where we are. But the

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<v Speaker 2>message is answered. Anyways, this is the moment humanity exposes itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Now contact that to real life. Now connect that to

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<v Speaker 2>real life. In nineteen seventy seven, astronomer Jerry m on

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<v Speaker 2>am On, I don't know how you would say that,

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<v Speaker 2>detected a strong narrow band radio signal using the Big

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<v Speaker 2>Ear radio telescope at Ohio State University.

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<v Speaker 1>He circled the code.

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<v Speaker 2>Six equ J five on the print out and wrote

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<v Speaker 2>one word beside it, wow. So that's where that wow

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<v Speaker 2>how signal comes from. We have heard about this. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't not the signal said wow. It was the scientist

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<v Speaker 2>wrote wow beside that the code that I just said,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's something new now, something that he felt that

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<v Speaker 2>he needed to say wow, Wow, look at this. So

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<v Speaker 2>just to clarify that, because I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people think that we actually got a signal that said wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he wrote wow next to the code.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that is the Wow signal. To this day,

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<v Speaker 2>it remains one of the most famous unexplained radio signal

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<v Speaker 2>event connected to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Now, mainstream

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<v Speaker 2>science does not say the word wow signal proves aliens.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been debated for decades. So this was a

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<v Speaker 2>while ago, right, So, but for beyond treach show the

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<v Speaker 2>symbolism is powerful. A signal came from space, it was strong,

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<v Speaker 2>it was strange, It was never confirmed again and we

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<v Speaker 2>still do not fully know what it was. This is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly the kind of mystery three body problem plays with,

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<v Speaker 2>because the terrifying question is not can we contact aliens?

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<v Speaker 2>The terrifying question is should we. For decades, humans have

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<v Speaker 2>sent radio signals, television broadcasts, radar, deliberate messages into space.

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<v Speaker 2>We have been leaking our presence into the cosmos. But

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<v Speaker 2>what if the universe is not friendly? What if every

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<v Speaker 2>signal is a flear in the dark. What if the

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<v Speaker 2>worst thing humanity ever did was it announced that we

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<v Speaker 2>are here. So maybe the danger is not that nobody

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<v Speaker 2>hears us. Maybe the danger is that someone does. So

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like standing out in the dark forest

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<v Speaker 2>yelling out, you know, and all the animals know where

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of scenario something to ponder on. Not the

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<v Speaker 2>scare people, okay, but something to ponder on. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 2>one of the darkest parts of the three body problem

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<v Speaker 2>is not the aliens. It's the humans. Some humans welcome

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<v Speaker 2>the Santee. They believe humanity is corrupt, violent, destructive, and

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<v Speaker 2>beyond saving. They do not see the aliens as invaders.

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<v Speaker 2>They see them as superior beings who should come and

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<v Speaker 2>take control. That part feels disturbingly real because it disclos

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<v Speaker 2>But if disclosure happens tomorrow, humanity would not react as

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<v Speaker 2>one united species, and that's where they need us to be.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, some people would.

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<v Speaker 2>Fight someone panic, some would worship them, some would call

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<v Speaker 1>Some would make deals.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, some elite will probably try to secure their

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<v Speaker 2>own survival first. Do you think this is why Three

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<v Speaker 2>Body Problem feels so real? The invasion does not start

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<v Speaker 2>with weapons. It starts with ideology arts when humans decide

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<v Speaker 2>humanity deserves to be replaced. That connects directly to modern

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<v Speaker 2>disclosure theories. People already talk about secret elites communicating with

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<v Speaker 2>non human intelligence. They talk about hidden agreements, underground basis,

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<v Speaker 2>human alien deals, spiritual deception, and the idea that not

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in power is working for humanity's best interests. And

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<v Speaker 1>That seems to be the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, we cannot prove these claims, but Three Body Problems

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<v Speaker 2>human mind has already been invaded. That is the real warning.

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<v Speaker 2>The first battle field is not the sky, it is belief.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's very interesting. Now, another major part of the

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<v Speaker 2>story is the Advanced Virtual Reality game, which is short

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<v Speaker 2>for VR Okay, people enter a VR world and experience

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<v Speaker 2>the Santi civilization. They see the chaos of the three Sons,

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<v Speaker 2>they see the civilization rise and fall. They experience fear, destruction,

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<v Speaker 2>and survival. But the VR game is not just a game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a recruitment. It's an emotional programming. It makes human

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<v Speaker 2>sympathize with the aliens before the aliens arrive. This is

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<v Speaker 2>where the soft disclosure angle comes in. Fiction train the

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<v Speaker 2>human mind. Movies, shows, books, and games prepare us to

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<v Speaker 2>imagine future realities before they happen. For decades, we have

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<v Speaker 2>been given alien stories, the friendly aliens, the evil aliens,

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<v Speaker 2>creator aliens, inter dimensional aliens, alien invasions, alien savers, alien gods,

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<v Speaker 2>alien demons.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, we got it all.

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<v Speaker 2>So if real disclosure happens, people will not react from

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<v Speaker 2>a blank slate. They will re act through stories they

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<v Speaker 2>have already absorbed. And this is why they tell you

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<v Speaker 2>decades ahead of time. In the movies, they literally put

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<v Speaker 2>those tell a Vision boxes into your homes so that

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<v Speaker 2>they can program you into their vision, the vision that's coming. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's we didn't get these TVs for no reason

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<v Speaker 2>at all. It wasn't just too simply entertain us. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>those are my words, all right. So this is why

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<v Speaker 2>the three body problem matters. It contains almost every major

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<v Speaker 2>disclosure fear okay, the signal from space, the alien civilization

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<v Speaker 2>coming to Earth, humans portraying humanity, secret groups working behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes, virtual reality used as conditioning, science being sabotaged,

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<v Speaker 2>scientists dying, governments hiding the truth, humanity not being ready.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just fiction. But is it fiction? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>fiction that understands the psychology of disclosure? Very well? Fiction

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<v Speaker 1>may not.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us what is coming, but it teaches us how

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<v Speaker 2>to feel.

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<v Speaker 1>When it arrives.

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<v Speaker 2>You see, it's controlling the narrative on how we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to react to these things. Do you have anything

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<v Speaker 2>to add before I move on here?

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<v Speaker 1>I got quite a bit stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a lot of you know, with the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they set it up because their planet is being destroyed

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<v Speaker 3>and then rebuilt and destroyed and rebuilt, and they are

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<v Speaker 3>looking for The thing is these aliens are looking for

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<v Speaker 3>someplace to go, and you know, and I try to

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<v Speaker 3>look at it like what about our planet? If you

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<v Speaker 3>want to look at the civilization's rising and falling, and

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<v Speaker 3>most of the time it's doing due to some cat

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<v Speaker 3>eclismic event, you know, giant volcano, maybe Earth changes, the

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<v Speaker 3>Earth wobble, a pole flip, you know, the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>happens here. So I'm kind of relating their planet is

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<v Speaker 3>our own planet. And even so, when there's a catastrophe here,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that affects the whole planet. And say, like

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<v Speaker 3>when the dinosaurs disappeared, that was a changing event for

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<v Speaker 3>the whole planet now, all at one time. And if

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<v Speaker 3>that happened on a more regular basis instead of millions

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<v Speaker 3>of years in between cycles, can you imagine what our

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<v Speaker 3>planet would be. We probably wouldn't be here.