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Speaker 2: We're going to be asking what if three Body Problem
Speaker 2: is not just fiction? What if it's a warning. This
Speaker 2: story has everything we talked about on Beyond Truth. Okay,
Speaker 2: We've got alien contact, we've got secret government programs, we
Speaker 2: got signal from space, scientists dying mysteriously, virtual reality. We've
Speaker 2: got hidden organizations, human betrayal, and the terrifying idea that
Speaker 2: maybe the universe is not safe.
Speaker 1: The show has it all, Okay.
Speaker 2: The story asked one huge question, if humanity receives a
Speaker 2: message from space, should we answer it? And this is
Speaker 2: where things get even stranger. Former President Barack Obama publicly
Speaker 2: praised the book. He called the series wildly imaginatively and
Speaker 2: talked about how massive the scope was. He joked that
Speaker 2: this problem with Congress felt small compared to the story
Speaker 2: where aliens are about to invade Netflix creator even tried
Speaker 2: to get Obama to do a cameo in the series,
Speaker 2: and he reportedly joked that there's if there was ever
Speaker 2: a real alien invasion.
Speaker 1: He should save himself for that crisis.
Speaker 2: Now, before I move on from that just a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago, maybe it was a couple of months ago, now,
Speaker 2: didn't Obama on an talk show or something like that
Speaker 2: come out and say aliens are real?
Speaker 1: Shortly after that, Trump came out and say, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: well I got some stuff too.
Speaker 2: And that's when, you know, he talked about releasing the files,
Speaker 2: which he is released a little bit now. But Obama
Speaker 2: did come out just a couple of months ago and
Speaker 2: actually say that aliens are real.
Speaker 1: So there you go. So with this with him saying that.
Speaker 2: Tells me that when the whole disclosure thing does come
Speaker 2: around here this summer, he's gonna be heavily involved. You're
Speaker 2: gonna see more of Obama. There's a prediction for you
Speaker 2: right there. He's saving himself for the big event that's coming,
Speaker 2: rather than just doing a little cameo in this thing.
Speaker 2: So I thought that that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: So there's clues everywhere on what's going on here. So
Speaker 2: does that prove Obama knows something? I would think so
Speaker 2: of being a president, I would certainly assume that they
Speaker 2: are in the know. I mean, who is then if
Speaker 2: they're not, you know what I mean? But that's a
Speaker 2: whole another show, I guess, right, So why would a
Speaker 2: former president be so interested in his story about alien invasion, secrecy,
Speaker 2: human betrayal, and government managing an impossible threat. Tonight we're
Speaker 2: going into the meat of it. So the three Body problem,
Speaker 2: the Wow signal, the Dark Secret theory, no, sorry, the
Speaker 2: Dark Forest theory. Okay, there's a lot of things in
Speaker 2: this show. It's not just one subject here. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of different things, but I do believe they tie
Speaker 2: into each other. There's a reason why they have these
Speaker 2: stories in this one thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So the Dark Forest theory, that's something else that you
Speaker 2: can google if you want to just check that out.
Speaker 2: Dead and Missing Scientists we did do a show on that. However,
Speaker 2: I think this show will kind of add on to
Speaker 2: it and whether fiction is preparing us for something real,
Speaker 2: which I do believe. I do believe there's something common here.
Speaker 2: So what is the three body problem? The basic story
Speaker 2: is this humanity discovers an alien civilization from a nearby
Speaker 2: unstable star system, very similar to the whole Nibiru the
Speaker 2: on ANOCHI that kind of sort of the same kind
Speaker 2: of thing.
Speaker 1: Vibe to it, I would say, Okay.
Speaker 2: In the Netflix series, they are called the sand Tea.
Speaker 2: That's what these alien race is called sand Tea. In
Speaker 2: the book, there are called the Trisolorians. Try Solarians, Okay,
Speaker 2: you know, try that tells me that something three. So
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's something else, but I we'll pin
Speaker 2: that and we'll get back to that. Their planet exists
Speaker 2: in a chaotic system with three suns.
Speaker 1: Sometimes their world.
Speaker 2: Has stable errors where life and civilization can grow. Other times,
Speaker 2: the three sons create chaos. Their planet burns, freezes, or
Speaker 2: become completely unlivable. Their civilizations rise and collapse over and
Speaker 2: over again. That sounds very familiar as well. See that's
Speaker 2: the thing that they've lied to us about all these
Speaker 2: resets that we've had, and so we don't remember anything. Now.
Speaker 2: They are talking about sun un flares, they're talking about
Speaker 2: polar shifts, they're talking about all kinds of things that
Speaker 2: could have this kind of stuff happen. So it's not
Speaker 2: a far stretch to think that this stuff isn't happening
Speaker 2: on other planets as well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: So this is why it's called the three body problem
Speaker 2: in real science. The three body problem is about how
Speaker 2: difficult it is to predict the motion of three bodies
Speaker 2: interacting with gravity. In the story, the science problem becomes
Speaker 2: a nightmare. The Santique cannot survive forever on their planet,
Speaker 2: so they look for a new home. Does it sound familiar?
Speaker 2: And the fine Earth? But the invasion does not begin
Speaker 2: with ships in the sky. It begins with the signal
Speaker 2: a human scientist answers some message from space, even after
Speaker 2: being worn not to okay. The first major warning of
Speaker 2: the story is simple. Maybe the universe is not waiting
Speaker 2: to be contacted. The universe is dangerous. Say that's the
Speaker 2: thing we don't know. In the three body Problem, the
Speaker 2: disaster begins when Earth sends a message into space.
Speaker 1: A warning comes back. Do not answer.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the warning that comes back, because if Earth answers,
Speaker 2: the alien civilization will know where we are. But the
Speaker 2: message is answered. Anyways, this is the moment humanity exposes itself.
Speaker 2: Now contact that to real life. Now connect that to
Speaker 2: real life. In nineteen seventy seven, astronomer Jerry m on
Speaker 2: am On, I don't know how you would say that,
Speaker 2: detected a strong narrow band radio signal using the Big
Speaker 2: Ear radio telescope at Ohio State University.
Speaker 1: He circled the code.
Speaker 2: Six equ J five on the print out and wrote
Speaker 2: one word beside it, wow. So that's where that wow
Speaker 2: how signal comes from. We have heard about this. It
Speaker 2: wasn't not the signal said wow. It was the scientist
Speaker 2: wrote wow beside that the code that I just said,
Speaker 2: because it's something new now, something that he felt that
Speaker 2: he needed to say wow, Wow, look at this. So
Speaker 2: just to clarify that, because I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people think that we actually got a signal that said wow.
Speaker 1: Now he wrote wow next to the code.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that is the Wow signal. To this day,
Speaker 2: it remains one of the most famous unexplained radio signal
Speaker 2: event connected to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Now, mainstream
Speaker 2: science does not say the word wow signal proves aliens.
Speaker 2: It has been debated for decades. So this was a
Speaker 2: while ago, right, So, but for beyond treach show the
Speaker 2: symbolism is powerful. A signal came from space, it was strong,
Speaker 2: it was strange, It was never confirmed again and we
Speaker 2: still do not fully know what it was. This is
Speaker 2: exactly the kind of mystery three body problem plays with,
Speaker 2: because the terrifying question is not can we contact aliens?
Speaker 2: The terrifying question is should we. For decades, humans have
Speaker 2: sent radio signals, television broadcasts, radar, deliberate messages into space.
Speaker 2: We have been leaking our presence into the cosmos. But
Speaker 2: what if the universe is not friendly? What if every
Speaker 2: signal is a flear in the dark. What if the
Speaker 2: worst thing humanity ever did was it announced that we
Speaker 2: are here. So maybe the danger is not that nobody
Speaker 2: hears us. Maybe the danger is that someone does. So
Speaker 2: It's kind of like standing out in the dark forest
Speaker 2: yelling out, you know, and all the animals know where
Speaker 2: you are now.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: That kind of scenario something to ponder on. Not the
Speaker 2: scare people, okay, but something to ponder on. Okay. So
Speaker 2: one of the darkest parts of the three body problem
Speaker 2: is not the aliens. It's the humans. Some humans welcome
Speaker 2: the Santee. They believe humanity is corrupt, violent, destructive, and
Speaker 2: beyond saving. They do not see the aliens as invaders.
Speaker 2: They see them as superior beings who should come and
Speaker 2: take control. That part feels disturbingly real because it disclos
Speaker 2: But if disclosure happens tomorrow, humanity would not react as
Speaker 2: one united species, and that's where they need us to be.
Speaker 1: You see, some people would.
Speaker 2: Fight someone panic, some would worship them, some would call
Speaker 2: them demons, some will call them angels, creators.
Speaker 1: Some would make deals.
Speaker 2: You know, some elite will probably try to secure their
Speaker 2: own survival first. Do you think this is why Three
Speaker 2: Body Problem feels so real? The invasion does not start
Speaker 2: with weapons. It starts with ideology arts when humans decide
Speaker 2: humanity deserves to be replaced. That connects directly to modern
Speaker 2: disclosure theories. People already talk about secret elites communicating with
Speaker 2: non human intelligence. They talk about hidden agreements, underground basis,
Speaker 2: human alien deals, spiritual deception, and the idea that not
Speaker 2: everybody in power is working for humanity's best interests. And
Speaker 2: I think everybody can agree that, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That seems to be the way.
Speaker 2: Again, we cannot prove these claims, but Three Body Problems
Speaker 2: shows the nightmare version. Before the alien ships arrive, the
Speaker 2: human mind has already been invaded. That is the real warning.
Speaker 2: The first battle field is not the sky, it is belief.
Speaker 2: So that's very interesting. Now, another major part of the
Speaker 2: story is the Advanced Virtual Reality game, which is short
Speaker 2: for VR Okay, people enter a VR world and experience
Speaker 2: the Santi civilization. They see the chaos of the three Sons,
Speaker 2: they see the civilization rise and fall. They experience fear, destruction,
Speaker 2: and survival. But the VR game is not just a game.
Speaker 2: It's a recruitment. It's an emotional programming. It makes human
Speaker 2: sympathize with the aliens before the aliens arrive. This is
Speaker 2: where the soft disclosure angle comes in. Fiction train the
Speaker 2: human mind. Movies, shows, books, and games prepare us to
Speaker 2: imagine future realities before they happen. For decades, we have
Speaker 2: been given alien stories, the friendly aliens, the evil aliens,
Speaker 2: creator aliens, inter dimensional aliens, alien invasions, alien savers, alien gods,
Speaker 2: alien demons.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we got it all.
Speaker 2: So if real disclosure happens, people will not react from
Speaker 2: a blank slate. They will re act through stories they
Speaker 2: have already absorbed. And this is why they tell you
Speaker 2: decades ahead of time. In the movies, they literally put
Speaker 2: those tell a Vision boxes into your homes so that
Speaker 2: they can program you into their vision, the vision that's coming. Okay,
Speaker 2: so that's we didn't get these TVs for no reason
Speaker 2: at all. It wasn't just too simply entertain us. Okay,
Speaker 2: those are my words, all right. So this is why
Speaker 2: the three body problem matters. It contains almost every major
Speaker 2: disclosure fear okay, the signal from space, the alien civilization
Speaker 2: coming to Earth, humans portraying humanity, secret groups working behind
Speaker 2: the scenes, virtual reality used as conditioning, science being sabotaged,
Speaker 2: scientists dying, governments hiding the truth, humanity not being ready.
Speaker 1: This is just fiction. But is it fiction? Is it
Speaker 1: fiction that understands the psychology of disclosure? Very well? Fiction
Speaker 1: may not.
Speaker 2: Tell us what is coming, but it teaches us how
Speaker 2: to feel.
Speaker 1: When it arrives.
Speaker 2: You see, it's controlling the narrative on how we are
Speaker 2: going to react to these things. Do you have anything
Speaker 2: to add before I move on here?
Speaker 1: I got quite a bit stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of you know, with the you know,
Speaker 3: they set it up because their planet is being destroyed
Speaker 3: and then rebuilt and destroyed and rebuilt, and they are
Speaker 3: looking for The thing is these aliens are looking for
Speaker 3: someplace to go, and you know, and I try to
Speaker 3: look at it like what about our planet? If you
Speaker 3: want to look at the civilization's rising and falling, and
Speaker 3: most of the time it's doing due to some cat
Speaker 3: eclismic event, you know, giant volcano, maybe Earth changes, the
Speaker 3: Earth wobble, a pole flip, you know, the same thing
Speaker 3: happens here. So I'm kind of relating their planet is
Speaker 3: our own planet. And even so, when there's a catastrophe here,
Speaker 3: you know that affects the whole planet. And say, like
Speaker 3: when the dinosaurs disappeared, that was a changing event for
Speaker 3: the whole planet now, all at one time. And if
Speaker 3: that happened on a more regular basis instead of millions
Speaker 3: of years in between cycles, can you imagine what our
Speaker 3: planet would be. We probably wouldn't be here.