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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of Eyes on Geopolitics.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here with Mick Moloy Jason Lines on the mich

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<v Speaker 1>bit of housekeeping. Just go ahead and do that, don't

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<v Speaker 1>it won't hurt And tell a friend. A lot happening

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<v Speaker 1>as usual. First thing, the kickoff is a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days ago, we paused our weapons shipments, some of that

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<v Speaker 1>were already in transit heading to Ukraine. That's caused a

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<v Speaker 1>huge stir. There was some word that the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing that was because we were worried about

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<v Speaker 1>our own stock piles. An NBC report came out yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>that said that's not the case, and hex Seth's paused

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway. Uh, let's start there because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more going on obviously, see Russia's pound in Ukraine with

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<v Speaker 1>drones and cruise missiles. Way more than it seems, way

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<v Speaker 1>more than usual, to be honest. Yeah, where you guys

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<v Speaker 1>at with the pause and the arm shipments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, first of all, I hope you guys had

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<v Speaker 2>a good Independence Day. Did a lot of motivational American

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<v Speaker 2>stuff myself. And to start a positive note, I would

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<v Speaker 2>highlight didn't get a lot of coverage, but the NATO

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<v Speaker 2>summit that was at the Hague, which will lead into

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<v Speaker 2>my comments online Ukrainian pause was very positive.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, and you got to give the president some credit.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the one that's been pushing so hard to get

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<v Speaker 2>our NATO allies, not just him, every president since going

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<v Speaker 2>back to when Europe decided to abdicate their security conserves

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, so many presidents, But give President Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>some credit. They're out now agreeing to five that's a

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<v Speaker 2>substantial increase, right. Just to give you an example, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I was talking to somebody yesterday. Germany's buying a

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<v Speaker 2>thousand new main battle tanks, twenty five hundred infanty fighting vehicles,

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<v Speaker 2>and creating six new combat brigades new. Right, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>one example. Now, I'm sure some of our friends out

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<v Speaker 2>there and the audience are going, well, isn't that because

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<v Speaker 2>Russia invaded Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 1>Yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably it has a lot to do with it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not just the American influence, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's important to point out five percent is considerable. Those

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<v Speaker 2>that aren't doing it should step up. But there's also

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<v Speaker 2>there was also an ironclad re affirmation of Article five

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<v Speaker 2>of NATO, which means you fight one of us, you

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<v Speaker 2>fight all of us. That was important for our NATO

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<v Speaker 2>allies to hear. There was another affirmation that eventually the

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine will end up in NATO. There was a I

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<v Speaker 2>think creation of the NATO Assistance to Ukraine entity, which

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<v Speaker 2>is awesome. My son's out there doing that. As far

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<v Speaker 2>as the US assistance to Ukraine with the unit, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was and there was a lot of I think

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<v Speaker 2>significant steps towards the development of a NATO that's a

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<v Speaker 2>functional military fighting force.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, we could.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk a lot more about that, but I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to highlight that before we get into I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what we're thinking about pausing. This is stuff that was

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<v Speaker 2>already approved and in the pipeline.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, there wasn't some of the stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>Poland and stuff like in.

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<v Speaker 2>Poland, Yeah, in Poland. Like now there's reports, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it's true that this was uniliterally decided in

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<v Speaker 2>the Pentagon. In my experience having been in, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on the Pentagon. This would never have happened in a

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<v Speaker 2>normal situation. This is a huge decision to cut off

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<v Speaker 2>critical defensive offensive included but defensive munitions to an ally.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's in a war.

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<v Speaker 2>That would at least have gone through the policy coordination

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<v Speaker 2>process where other people would have an opportunity to chime

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<v Speaker 2>in on why that's a terrible idea. And this would

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<v Speaker 2>be a decision by the President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this isn't This isn't something that would be

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<v Speaker 2>decided on the datas d level for example, what I was,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is, this is this is getting kicked

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<v Speaker 2>up to the to the president. So I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>why it was done. I think it needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>turned back on immediately. I'm sure there's some senators and

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<v Speaker 2>representatives on both sides of the isle that want answers.

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<v Speaker 2>This is and this was already approved. It's in the

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<v Speaker 2>US interest to continue and to increase the support we

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<v Speaker 2>give to Ukraine, not not charity but actual our national

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<v Speaker 2>security interest. Or maybe we'll talk about it today, but

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<v Speaker 2>we just proved it one trillion dollar basic defense annual budget,

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<v Speaker 2>so we have the capacity to do this American companies

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<v Speaker 2>benefit from this, our allies and partners benefited from this,

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<v Speaker 2>and cutting it off it's just going to inspire President

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<v Speaker 2>Putin to continue the war, believing that he has the

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<v Speaker 2>US and a place that is more beneficial to him

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<v Speaker 2>than potentially even her. So that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I got to say about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jay, you listened to back and forth, so

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you have some of the opposing side.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was an interview on PBS. I do not

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<v Speaker 4>remember the two ladies' names, but one was they're both

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<v Speaker 4>think tanks, but one was for the pause, one was

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<v Speaker 4>against the one who was for She made the argument

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<v Speaker 4>that this isn't just a pause, it's not a complete halt.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, tomato, tomato, she believes that. And d I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if we can post that the interview in

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<v Speaker 4>the link somewhere so people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna actually say it's Kimberly Keith Kagan the Institute

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<v Speaker 1>for the Study of War and Jennifer Kavanaugh of Defense Priorities. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll throw the link in the description.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, Jennifer Kavanaugh, she was the one who was

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<v Speaker 4>for the pause. She kept arguing that this was necessary

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<v Speaker 4>because we needed to uh focus on war with China,

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<v Speaker 4>a possible you know, future war with China, and that

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<v Speaker 4>by continuing to send these arms that we were hamsteringing

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<v Speaker 4>ourselves and the other lady she uh said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>one has nothing to do with the other, and that

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<v Speaker 4>would actually only give h Russia as well as China

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<v Speaker 4>and Iran, you know, it would give them pause to say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they they stand by their allies and they're

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<v Speaker 4>willing to do whatever it takes to, you know, to

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<v Speaker 4>support them. And so it was a it was a

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<v Speaker 4>really good back and forth to watch, but you know

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<v Speaker 4>how I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, well it's good to listen to both sides, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, we don't want to just be the I

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<v Speaker 2>would say on this idea that you know, the eminent

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<v Speaker 2>war with China over Taiwan. You just said it, Jay,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the more the more you pull out of

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<v Speaker 2>supporting your allies, the more China would be inspired because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't think you're gonna We're going to support Taiwan

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<v Speaker 2>by looking at how we support Ukraine and China. This

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<v Speaker 2>is reported out there that China actually was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of European countries saying essentially that the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that they they view the US's as a

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<v Speaker 2>as a weakness, you know when it comes to supporting Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's going to inspire them and obviously Russia

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<v Speaker 2>to just continue this. So if we have a problem

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<v Speaker 2>keeping up with the manufacturing of these key critical munitions,

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<v Speaker 2>which isn't just defensive but also upfensive, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>fix that problem because what if we're in a war

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<v Speaker 2>right now, If we were in the war right now

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<v Speaker 2>and we can't even support Ukraine because it's our criticals

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<v Speaker 2>thought piles, something's not adding up and something. So they

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<v Speaker 2>need to do a real assessment with people that are

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<v Speaker 2>more on the military national security side, let's on the political,

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<v Speaker 2>and say, if we're this close to critical, then we

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<v Speaker 2>have dramatically underestimated how we're going to get our munitions

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<v Speaker 2>if we should go to them. And maybe that's addressed

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<v Speaker 2>in the new defense budget.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is in some part, but I just don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that that's actually the case here. I think we can

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<v Speaker 2>do both. I think we can prepare and send a

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<v Speaker 2>strong message to China not to screw around with Taiwan

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<v Speaker 2>or any other entity out there and also support our

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<v Speaker 2>ally that's currently being attacked after years and years by

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<v Speaker 2>our other adversary Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that, Like that's an interesting argument in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of like being prepared for China. It's like you

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<v Speaker 1>could say make the same argument, like why is saidcom

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<v Speaker 1>going fucking bananas? Saya, cum'sm going bananas for the last

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<v Speaker 1>four months. I mean, we're bombing the Huthis for a

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<v Speaker 1>sixty fifty five fifty two days or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, right, and nobody said anything that was a

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars worth of munitions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was for taking it to the Huthis, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can't have it. It's it's just Ukraine. It's just selectively Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>So the same people are talking about transferring B two's

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<v Speaker 2>and moved to is.

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<v Speaker 1>I got I got triggered when I saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>Or wringing their hands when it comes to basic defensive

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<v Speaker 2>munitions to defend themselves against these barrages. When we do

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<v Speaker 2>have Americans in places in Ukraine, like it's you got

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<v Speaker 2>to call it for what it is. This is just

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<v Speaker 2>political and it needs we need to focus more on

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<v Speaker 2>our national security and interests collectively, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Political I mean, since you brought it up, Nick, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this too, dunce caps of a congressman, bipartisan too,

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<v Speaker 1>one's a Republican, one's a Democrat. Who are I guess

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<v Speaker 1>proposing a bill. They've done it before to other people,

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<v Speaker 1>where we give over our b twos and mobs to Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, bro, there's a reason why we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>health universal health care. We need to keep our own

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<v Speaker 1>shit to ourselves, right, the things that no one has

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<v Speaker 1>not even trying to have strategic bombers like that stealth ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I saw that and I was like, dude, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a congressman, man, like, make that count. Make it fucking

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<v Speaker 1>count for your constituents. You think your constituents give a

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<v Speaker 1>flying fuck that we give b twos to to uh Israel?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, make it. You know I can say the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing about Lindsay Graham too. Do you think anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in South Carolina gives a shit about what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Iran?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's be real, like, you have your first

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost job. I feel like is as a congress person,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting sidetracked. And I'm sorry to everybody, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to get over it now, you guys, the

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<v Speaker 1>audience is like doing what you got to do for

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<v Speaker 1>your district or your state. It's crazy to me, how

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<v Speaker 1>like there's only how many You're thirty five guys and girls, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's out of three hundred and forty million people. You're

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<v Speaker 1>the leaders of the land and nate number of you

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<v Speaker 1>take your job seriously. All right, I'm off my soapbox

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<v Speaker 1>now you got.

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<v Speaker 4>No. I mean, there's really not much I say. I mean, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's I agree. I mean, there are more pressing things

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<v Speaker 4>to worry about. As a congress person. It's a representative,

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<v Speaker 4>you know whatever, too close to home to be uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, proposing something like that, you know, or someone's

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<v Speaker 4>face on Mount Rushmore or whatever it is. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>there are more important things. Now, someone could come back

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<v Speaker 4>and say, well, you just made our point about Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 4>There's things too close to home. Well one directly affects

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<v Speaker 4>us giving Israel B two's it's not going.

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<v Speaker 3>To help us at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So we want to control the assets and nobody else

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, as I mean, that's that's where I

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<v Speaker 2>If it's not needed for our own security, why would we

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<v Speaker 2>else whoul then decide what?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we can see a scenario where we don't

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a lot of scenarios where the US

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<v Speaker 2>our own decisions. So and that's not a slight against Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>Was the British or the French or anybody, Yeah, anyone

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like your buddy's like, hey, let me borrow your car.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, damn that drive you give me gas money,

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>that's worth a billion dollars that nobody has to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>bomb a country whenever we feel like like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we dictate what happens. Right, We're the United States, for

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<v Speaker 1>God's sake. I mean I sound like a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the board of Halliburton. But you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the same point, we have these things, why give

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<v Speaker 2>Yourself, Lions' shift man, think about.

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<v Speaker 1>It, right, I mean, we gave you Ron, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at fourteen's and their first new clear reactor, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not exactly writing each other Christmas cards right now, Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be talking about it just a round out

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<v Speaker 1>going back to Ukraine and Russia. This is more of

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<v Speaker 1>There were reports that Zelenski and Trump were going to

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<v Speaker 1>the day before Putin and Trump had a phone call.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't much readout on what went down on the

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<v Speaker 1>to Zelenski. And this is after the pause and the weapons. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't get it, Like why does Trump need

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<v Speaker 1>every time he talks to Zelenski. Pohon's not our buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely not a buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if I don't know the

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<v Speaker 2>thought process. Looking at it both ways, I guess President

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<v Speaker 2>of concessions from pot before we talk to Zelenski. So,

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<v Speaker 2>but because he came right out of it and said, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>I got nothing, clearly not interested in ceasefire. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>clearly not interested in ceasefire. So it's time to pass

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<v Speaker 2>the Sanctioning Russia Act, sponsored by Senator Graham, Senator Graham

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<v Speaker 2>and Blumenthal on the Democratic side. But it's got eighty

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<v Speaker 2>plus senators, right, so it's a veto proof, Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what they're waiting. I really don't. Uh, there's

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<v Speaker 2>zero interest by Putin to stop this war. He's intensified it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's bringing in thirty thousand now it's pretty much verified

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<v Speaker 2>So he's got he's got allies. They're pumping out ammunition,

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<v Speaker 2>they're pumping they're sending our own soldiers for Christ's sake,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And so we need to keep up the

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<v Speaker 2>pressure with Ukraine, who's never going to quit. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you haven't figured that out yet, right, if Putin

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't figured that out yet, I mean, they're just not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna quit. They're going to fight all the way to

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<v Speaker 2>the end. So that means every life Ukrainian and Russia

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<v Speaker 2>simply hasn't shown that they have the capacity, military capability,

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<v Speaker 2>planning anything. So let's hope that that part of these

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<v Speaker 2>this increase in NATO also translates to an increase in

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<v Speaker 2>support Ukraine, because I think they're one of the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with Mick on that.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems I'm not in the administration's heads or Trump's head,

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<v Speaker 4>but it seems like this is his way of saying, Hey, look,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm addressing both sides. I'm trying to get this thing done.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It just so happens that I'm talking to Putin first. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>from an intelligence officer point of view, Mick Will knows

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<v Speaker 4>as well as I do, one of the biggest things

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<v Speaker 4>you want to know is what is a world leader thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>what's in their head?

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<v Speaker 3>Where?

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<v Speaker 4>From Putin's point of view, he doesn't have to wonder,

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't have to send his spies out to know,

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<v Speaker 4>because by Trump calling him first, he's telling him what

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<v Speaker 4>he's thinking. I'm sure that they talked about I can't

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent say, but I'm pretty certain they talked about, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you going to talk to Zelenski about? And

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<v Speaker 4>by doing that, now Putin can kind of steer the situation,

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<v Speaker 4>steer the conversation. You know, you know that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, what about this?

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<v Speaker 3>What about that?

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<v Speaker 4>Put things in Trump's head that could now steer the

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<v Speaker 4>conversation with Zelenski in a way that it wasn't intended,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, And that's one thing that we learned as

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<v Speaker 4>intelligence officers is you never let an asset control that

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<v Speaker 4>the uh uh, the situation, whether that's everything from where

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<v Speaker 4>you meet to what the conversation, how the conversation goes,

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<v Speaker 4>you always steer that. So, I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>who he has in his head, if the DNI is

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<v Speaker 4>talking to him or anybody like that, but to me,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a bad idea to talk to Putin first

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<v Speaker 4>every time. Maybe on certain occasions, depending on what the

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<v Speaker 4>situation is, what the conversation is going, to be about,

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<v Speaker 4>but not every time, because now you're also just giving

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<v Speaker 4>the appearances of let's get it, you're going to defer

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<v Speaker 4>to Putin first anyway, So you know, why are we

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really interesting point. I mean that, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that anybody's obviously, I don't know if anybody explained

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<v Speaker 2>that to Potus that you know, we have the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to psychologically profile key leaders and give you a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of information that would make you better prepared for any

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<v Speaker 2>of these conversations. I assume that they have. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's readily available. And Putin is a former KGB spy, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he knows what this is all his this is his world.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a really interesting point. Hopefully they are taking

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of that and the president's taking the feedback because

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<v Speaker 2>if not, I mean this, I'm not saying it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's manipulating the president, but he's certainly trying.

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<v Speaker 1>We know he's trying.

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<v Speaker 2>So it would be interesting to see if somebody is

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<v Speaker 2>actually trying to counter that and even give talking points

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<v Speaker 2>to president. I think this happen in the past. They

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<v Speaker 2>could you know, turn the tide so to speak.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, because you break that pattern if sorry, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't mean, but if you you break that pattern of

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<v Speaker 4>going to Putin all the time and then this next

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<v Speaker 4>time go right to Zelenski first, Now you might force

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<v Speaker 4>Putin or his people to reveal something, you know, questions

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<v Speaker 4>that they might have, which is intel you know about

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<v Speaker 4>it by saying whoa would you go to him first?

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<v Speaker 3>You know for you know, uh, did you tell him this?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you talk to him about that? You know?

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<v Speaker 4>So now we're getting information on what they're thinking, so

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<v Speaker 4>hopefully somebody is in his ear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jay, I was literally what I was thinking. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, doesn't it couldn't it? Couldn't you get more

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<v Speaker 1>yardage out of Like I'm talking to Zelenskin, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna miss a fucking phone call with Putin and

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<v Speaker 1>let him stew on it a little bit, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, like just to fun with him a

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<v Speaker 1>little yep. So yeah, great, great point, Jay. I mean, Also,

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<v Speaker 1>like outside of like from ninety nine, two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one, when Putin first came to power,

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<v Speaker 1>there were some talk about like he's a reformer and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, but over the last twenty plus years

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<v Speaker 1>he's clearly shown that he's a manipulative lying I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you just even see dmitriy Medvedev like him and Obama

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<v Speaker 1>had a good relationship right when he was president, even

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<v Speaker 1>though Putin was still pulling the strings. But he's got

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<v Speaker 1>totally fucking batshit. You know. It's like these guys were

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<v Speaker 1>just always lying essentially right, always trying to manipulate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's wild, like I you know, I mean, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I guess Biden didn't take a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>poot or any phone calls from Putin. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>completely ice amount and stuff like that, but you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make a phone call mean something and get like

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<v Speaker 1>actual stuff out of it, right, like strategically put it

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<v Speaker 1>in the right place where it's like, yeah, we got X,

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<v Speaker 1>Because the more and more phone calls you gotta feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it just waters down the effect.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a reason why.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, I was going to say, there's a reason why. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>going back to training. As intelligence officers, you're it's always

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<v Speaker 4>emphasized that you do not you do give some a

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<v Speaker 4>but you don't give everything because now they control it.

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<v Speaker 4>So we've got to get better at that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>by the why we I mean, the administration has to

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<v Speaker 4>get better at making Putin stew make him sit for

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit, make him wonder what the hell we

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<v Speaker 4>were just talking about. You know, have the conversation and

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<v Speaker 4>then announce it on TV. Let him see it on

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<v Speaker 4>CNN or Fox News, and then that might force him

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<v Speaker 4>and his people to give up something that you know

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, like, what else can Putin do right

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's his his actual point. And that's what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to think about that for future warfare. What

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<v Speaker 2>did Iran do when they were trying to fight Israel?

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<v Speaker 2>They just launched ballistic missiles into like Tel Aviv? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you go, right, they're not even trying That's what That's

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<v Speaker 2>what Putin's been doing. The whole time they just strike civilians.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes directly after and strike civilians. They're terror So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the adversary we're going to face. Those are two

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get eighty senators to agree on fucking anything, right,

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<v Speaker 1>outside of just military support, right, like sanction them even more,

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<v Speaker 1>give away their three hundred and twenty five billion to

421
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<v Speaker 1>like whatever, whether it's European defence companies or American that

422
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<v Speaker 1>are making shells, or patriots or whatever, because like, what

423
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<v Speaker 1>else can you fucking do outside of a nuclear rep

424
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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna.

425
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<v Speaker 2>Do that, No, because if he does a nuclear weapon,

426
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<v Speaker 2>it might trigger Article five because the radiation fall out

427
00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:12.759
<v Speaker 2>it's likely to hit Poland and other NATO countries that

428
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<v Speaker 2>surround Ukraine.

429
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<v Speaker 3>It's not like you could contain it.

430
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<v Speaker 1>Right at the end of the day, he wants to be,

431
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<v Speaker 1>he wants to be, you know, regime security is paramount

432
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<v Speaker 1>for him.

433
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

434
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you could, you could unfreeze, and they have

435
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<v Speaker 2>been unfreezing, like Canada has I think Japan is free

436
00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.720
<v Speaker 2>unfrozen some but the big bulks haven't been unfrozen. And

437
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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know why they did that. I mean,

438
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<v Speaker 2>then you're paying the US industrial base to which will

439
00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:42.720
<v Speaker 2>improve our ability to do this right. It will increase capacity,

440
00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:46.920
<v Speaker 2>will increase all sorts of things in innovation when it

441
00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:49.359
<v Speaker 2>comes to development these systems. So if you did both

442
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<v Speaker 2>of the things you just said, if you did release

443
00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:57.359
<v Speaker 2>the funds to support Ukraine periodically, right, changin thirty billion,

444
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, whatever, just to put more pressure on

445
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<v Speaker 2>Putin Andy did this section in Russia Act. That's going

446
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:06.559
<v Speaker 2>to send a serious message to Russia. It's going to

447
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<v Speaker 2>be beneficial to the United States and Arnado partners and

448
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<v Speaker 2>obviously Ukraine.

449
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<v Speaker 1>I got to like, outside of maybe people in the

450
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<v Speaker 1>comments would know, like, are is Europe still getting a

451
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<v Speaker 1>lot of their gas and oil from Russia? I believe

452
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<v Speaker 1>they are. Are they worried that if they did start

453
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<v Speaker 1>like giving out changes of that three hundred and twenty

454
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<v Speaker 1>five billion, that they would get cut off and stuff?

455
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think there's an initiative to go to

456
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<v Speaker 2>nuclear I don't know if that could make up I'd

457
00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>defer to the energy experts. But yeah, they to my understanding,

458
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<v Speaker 2>I think they've tried to wean themselves off. I think

459
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<v Speaker 2>there's other like I heard, you know, through discussions with

460
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<v Speaker 2>Middle East friends, that there's going to be some kind

461
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<v Speaker 2>of pipeline that might come through Syria that's going to

462
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<v Speaker 2>get to Europe. Correct me if I'm wrong people who know.

463
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<v Speaker 1>But that's years away.

464
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if it were happened, but it would benefit obviously

465
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<v Speaker 2>Sero Syria which needs it. But anyway, the point being

466
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<v Speaker 2>it was helped, there's there's initiatives that long term could

467
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<v Speaker 2>get Europe, which should have been trying to get off

468
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Russian energy the whole time. The idea they got more

469
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<v Speaker 2>relying on it was just a huge strategic mistake.

470
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we'll see what goes down. Hopefully they unfreeze

471
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<v Speaker 1>the weapons package, you know, weapons that are stuck in

472
00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Poland just sitting there. It's not even like it wasn't

473
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<v Speaker 1>like they're all they're sitting in an American fucking warehouse.

474
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<v Speaker 1>They're in Poland like ready to be transferred. So hopefully

475
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<v Speaker 1>that happens soon. Moving on to UH, looks likely that

476
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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a cease firing gods of fingers crossed.

477
00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Hamas answered and said that it looks like they're down

478
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<v Speaker 1>for it, or at least down to continue to discuss it.

479
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, thank god, I hope it's fucking done, frankly,

480
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:02.880
<v Speaker 1>because that situation is an absolute nightmare. And we also

481
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<v Speaker 1>have Netna who coming to visit the States, which is exciting. Mick,

482
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<v Speaker 1>what are your thoughts?

483
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<v Speaker 2>I think I think you're right. I've been talking a

484
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:17.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of my friends in the Middle East, and it

485
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:22.200
<v Speaker 2>does look like this wouldn't have been Netna Who coming

486
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<v Speaker 2>if there wasn't going to be an announcement.

487
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<v Speaker 1>There.

488
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<v Speaker 2>I think the IDF has told him that they've essentially

489
00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:31.880
<v Speaker 2>gotten a lot of the objectives they wanted to accomplish.

490
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<v Speaker 2>It is a natural point to have at least the

491
00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:41.480
<v Speaker 2>start of a ceasefire, and the US proposals sixty days.

492
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<v Speaker 2>It's adjusted somewhat, but I do believe now it's ten

493
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 2>living in eighteen deceased hostages will come out within that

494
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:53.240
<v Speaker 2>sixty days, and of course the corresponding Palestinian prisoners like

495
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:59.000
<v Speaker 2>three to one ratio. But most importantly the massive this

496
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:01.799
<v Speaker 2>is what I was told, increase in humanitarian aid, which

497
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:04.640
<v Speaker 2>needs to happen I mean, I mean, I hope. I

498
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:09.119
<v Speaker 2>wish Hamas was eradicated to the last person, but withholding

499
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 2>humanitarian assistance from civilians isn't the way to do it ever,

500
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:17.119
<v Speaker 2>so that needs to change. But apparently it is so

501
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.079
<v Speaker 2>we might see and which is great, and we should

502
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:21.519
<v Speaker 2>all hope that Hamas is the right thing for the

503
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Palestinian people, which they haven't done yet, but maybe they'll

504
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 2>view it in their own interest because I think there

505
00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>is an offer. I think there's an offer to allow

506
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:32.599
<v Speaker 2>the leadership of a MOSS to depart.

507
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:34.680
<v Speaker 3>And go somewhere else. You know, maybe we're wrong.

508
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:40.759
<v Speaker 2>As an old intel dude, I would say, let them go,

509
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>we'll find them later. Man, we got we got a

510
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 2>forever memory. So uh, anything to stop the war and

511
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.279
<v Speaker 2>the issues that are the humanitarian crisis that's in the

512
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Gaza right now. I just hope that let's hope that

513
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Hamas can see see the pathwoard. The issue, of course

514
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:00.519
<v Speaker 2>is Hamas doesn't want to sign some thing that the

515
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:05.160
<v Speaker 2>that that doesn't permanently in the and have the IDF withdraw,

516
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:09.519
<v Speaker 2>and that's that's the big issue. And the IDF doesn't

517
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>want or Israel doesn't want to sign on to something

518
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:12.759
<v Speaker 2>because they don't know what ever Moss is gonna do,

519
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>right and right now there's no suitable or even option

520
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.559
<v Speaker 2>to unless maybe private security, and I just don't see

521
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>that being enough to fill the vacuum of the IDF. Right,

522
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:28.039
<v Speaker 2>So there needs to be some plan, maybe some way

523
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>to build and train Palestinians that are vetted and trusted

524
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:37.160
<v Speaker 2>that can provide security for other Palestinians both ways. And

525
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, but that's that's something needs to be started.

526
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully it can be started in conjunction with the Sea

527
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Spire that we can, Like you said, they all hope

528
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:47.119
<v Speaker 2>starts next week.

529
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think I read somewhere the IDEF is controlling

530
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:57.359
<v Speaker 1>about seventy five percent of Gaza. Now, yes, yeah, I

531
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I hope this fucking stops, man, because it's

532
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:04.839
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's seems like it's a fucking nightmare. At

533
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:08.279
<v Speaker 1>least it looks like it's a nightmare. And also, what

534
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:14.359
<v Speaker 1>do we really want contractors there doing complete security for

535
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the entire place. I mean, it's not really working out

536
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:20.039
<v Speaker 1>great as of you know. The other day AP reported

537
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 1>that American contractors were shooting at Palestinians and stuff like

538
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 1>that today, just now, the Gods of Humanitarian Foundation posted

539
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>a statement saying that there was an attack on a

540
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>distribution site. I think a couple of contractors were injured.

541
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.559
<v Speaker 1>On top of the IDF you know from Heratz. IDF

542
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>was saying they have a green light on fucking shooting

543
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>essentially people at the eight sites where there are only

544
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 1>what four, which, like you've mentioned before, make there should

545
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>be four hundred. So yeah, I hope this sees fire happens, man,

546
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I hope it ends. And uh, you know, we could

547
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>just fuck a chill out for a little bit and yeah,

548
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:05.279
<v Speaker 1>go smoke commas. Guys in around Iran or guitar, have

549
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>at it, go nuts, ushah, do what you you know

550
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you're actually good at.

551
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 2>And and hopefully with this, I mean we spoke to

552
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.839
<v Speaker 2>former very senior UN humanitarian folks last week. There needs

553
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:20.960
<v Speaker 2>to be like four hundred age stations, right, so this

554
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>is hopefully not enough. So yeah, so hopefully it comes

555
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 2>with that and and we'll we'll see and we'll see

556
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:33.400
<v Speaker 2>what what Hamas actually does. They've indicated this positive response,

557
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.759
<v Speaker 2>so if they come back and then don't agree to it,

558
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 2>I go from here. There might be a uniladal declaration

559
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 2>by Israel and uh. And also part of the the

560
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.599
<v Speaker 2>sixty day is a withdrawal of IDF from certain areas

561
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:55.799
<v Speaker 2>of GOSM. So there is there is both sides are

562
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 2>submitting submitting here.

563
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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I do worry that it's gonna be like

564
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 1>the first cease fire, where like after the first, like

565
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the phase two, where it was like who's gonna do

566
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.319
<v Speaker 1>the security? And that's how it basically, at least my

567
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>understanding is that's how it collapsed. I hope that's not

568
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the case. Again, Man, I don't know who the fuck's

569
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna step up because it doesn't seem like anybody else will.

570
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>So at least that's stopped the fucking bombing. And let's

571
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>let's get people some fucking food in medicine.

572
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's start reconstruction.

573
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Uh. Last bit the Iran ending cooperation with the

574
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>i a e A, which is what they said they

575
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 1>would do obviously if they got hit, and they would redouble.

576
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>They also said they would redouble their efforts and getting

577
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a nuclear weapon. A couple of things there too. The

578
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Pentagon came out and said that we brought them back

579
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a year or two. Frankly at this point, I don't

580
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>really trust what the Pentagon says. Uh, gotta be honest

581
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>with you, it could be true. I mean they were

582
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>year away anyway, even Yahoo said that. So anyway, Iran,

583
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's kind of like a cooling period.

584
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Now they have a ceasefire and stuff, but it does

585
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>seem like Uran's like they were photos satellite photos of

586
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 1>them excavating the Ford out site. We'll see where it

587
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>goes from there and make it. What are you reading

588
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:22.559
<v Speaker 1>on that?

589
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, first thing, trust your enemy when they're

590
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 2>telling you what they're doing, right, So, I mean they

591
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.319
<v Speaker 2>were already at sixty percent enriched uranium and there's around

592
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 2>four hundred kilograms of the stuff. We think that's way

593
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.279
<v Speaker 2>over what you need for civilian energy. So that tells

594
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 2>me right there they want a nuclear weapon. It told

595
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 2>me before the the strikes actually that they were trying

596
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.440
<v Speaker 2>to send a message to the world that that's way

597
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 2>they were heading. So maybe they were using it as

598
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>negotiation tactics. But there you go, you got you got,

599
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>you got the response. So now when they the IAEA,

600
00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.640
<v Speaker 2>they had cameras at these facilities, they had access to

601
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.960
<v Speaker 2>these facilities by taking them out. They're saying that they're

602
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.359
<v Speaker 2>going to do things that they would not have wanted

603
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 2>to see the ia EA C Right, that's I mean,

604
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 2>that's how you have to view it, in my opinion.

605
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.200
<v Speaker 2>So they are going for a nuclear weapon, and we

606
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>need to focus on dismantling that, and that to me

607
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 2>is everything's on the table. I'd like to see it

608
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.880
<v Speaker 2>in the diplomatic new nuclear agreement, but that's up to Iran.

609
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>It's clear the US wants to do that too. Maybe not,

610
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:33.559
<v Speaker 2>but if they don't, then we need to focus on

611
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 2>our intelligence efforts. And I'd like to keep it on

612
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>the covert side. You know, it's better than the overt side.

613
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.359
<v Speaker 2>But you know, and every step they make makes it

614
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:46.240
<v Speaker 2>more likely that this is going to become a conflict again.

615
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they have one of their eye tolas calling

616
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 2>for the assassination of Prime Minister Nanyahu and President Trump. Okay,

617
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.200
<v Speaker 2>the two commanders in chief of the most significant military

618
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:01.519
<v Speaker 2>forces against you, and you've just called for their assassination.

619
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:09.079
<v Speaker 2>So I mean irresponsibility. No, not the supreator. It's Katami,

620
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>I believe, okay, But I mean I don't think he's

621
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna come out, and you know, one Iyetot is gonna

622
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 2>come out saying this stuff unless the Iotola supports it.

623
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

624
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Again, I'd like to see it in a diploma action.

625
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 2>But this is not the way Aron's headed. So we

626
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:28.440
<v Speaker 2>need to be ready to strike again. I think we

627
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:30.079
<v Speaker 2>can use our own b twos if we have to.

628
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully this stays on the black side and doesn't become, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, an overt war again. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>enemy gets a vote. The enemy in this case is

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<v Speaker 2>I wan yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And it looks like to me, I'm not Again, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not downplaying or saying that the strike's are wrong. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think they were, but i it gives Iran the

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<v Speaker 4>perfect cover to two bar the IAEA because they're saying

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<v Speaker 4>it's for safety reasons. You know, we can't guarantee their

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<v Speaker 4>safety down there, you know, until we know it's safe,

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<v Speaker 4>we're not gonna let them in. Well, they could be

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<v Speaker 4>screaming that for the next two years while they rebuild,

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like the perfect cover. So, like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>our intel has got to be on point so that

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<v Speaker 4>we can say, beyond the shadow of a doubt, hey

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<v Speaker 4>we know what you're doing down there, We're coming, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>So Uh, yeah, they're just going to use this excuse.

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<v Speaker 3>It's for the safety of you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you're going to let it exactly totally agree, Jay,

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you got to let Intel speak for itself, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you can't because the problem when you get into is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I do think it was severely damaged,

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<v Speaker 2>but when you say it's like completely erased. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then four months from now, you're like, oh, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to strike it again because they've rebuilt it, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, how was it? You know, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just let the let the Intel speak for itself and

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<v Speaker 2>it just based on that, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>What you're on the side of the caution, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you can say later on, see it was obliterated. But

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<v Speaker 4>when you start out saying one hundred percent it's gone,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, now the burdening proof is on you to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure that it's actually like that, because, like you

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<v Speaker 4>just said it, four months from now, we're launching new strikes.

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<v Speaker 4>You know for a fact people on the other side

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<v Speaker 4>are going to come back and be like, well I

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<v Speaker 4>thought you said now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it all comes out later, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Freedom Information Act and all that's going to come out later.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess people don't care, but you know, eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>years from now, they're going to know exactly what the

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence community.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, But anyway, let's let's see where it goes. There

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like any plan to get back into the negotiation,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, and oman so this I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's over put it that way. I think we're not out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Not not great, guys, that's my assessment on this

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<v Speaker 1>is not great. Uh, make you wanted to talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about the defense budget, like was that

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<v Speaker 1>part of the big beautiful bill thing?

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a supplement talking to five billion I

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<v Speaker 2>think was part of the Big Beautiful Bill. But that

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<v Speaker 2>brings our total one point one trillion if you take

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty f y twenty six base budget plus that

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<v Speaker 2>obviously a lot and I'm sure you know, there's could

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot of discussions on where we're putting our money,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I'm a national security guy, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>focusing on that. I think a lot of it was

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<v Speaker 2>directed correctly on the enhancement of our space operations, our

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<v Speaker 2>artificial intelligence, drone operations. Our navy is getting a huge

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<v Speaker 2>bump night if you add the three ships from the

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<v Speaker 2>base budget, sixteen more from the supplemental on the big

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful bill, it's nineteen you know, by my Marie Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of ships, right so, and hopefully these

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<v Speaker 2>aren't ships like just historic ships that are giant targets.

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<v Speaker 2>These are ships that can use drones and are hard

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<v Speaker 2>to see and can be latoral and you know all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. We need to be able to project power

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<v Speaker 2>from the sea, but we do it, need to do

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<v Speaker 2>it in a modern way. There is this golden dome,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if done correctly, I can see the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five billion for that. We want to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>defend ourselves as nuclear weapons spread and the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>deliver them spread, ie North Korea. Right So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot in here, and hopefully it does more than just

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<v Speaker 2>appease you know, different districts, but it really focuses on

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<v Speaker 2>our national security. The US has always had an offset

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<v Speaker 2>plan where we try to jump ahead in technology of

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<v Speaker 2>our adversaries. You know, it's a big buzz talk always

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<v Speaker 2>in the Pentagon, and it's exponentially going from you know

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<v Speaker 2>where it was to quantum computers, artificially intelligence based robotics,

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<v Speaker 2>drones where the air maritime ground, we're entering it to

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, dangerous new world, put it that way,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have to be way out front this and

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<v Speaker 2>then figure out how to deal with what could be

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<v Speaker 2>an explosion of very lethal, inexpensive options for our adversaries

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<v Speaker 2>that are coming out of these wars, especially in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, I think I think it's got the

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<v Speaker 2>right priorities. We'll see how it's actually implemented, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a big Now we're at over a trillion dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, i'd say out of politics from the

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<v Speaker 2>national security side, that just means we have to really

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how we're going to deal with this national debt, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, nobody's deal with it period either side, And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you can do both, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll leave that for the political ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay, you got anything to add, I know you got

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<v Speaker 1>to run soon.

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<v Speaker 4>So no, no, I mean agree with Mick. It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>when you're just talking that last part. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about giving one of my daughters my credit card for

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<v Speaker 4>the weekend. You know, they're going away, and it's like, here,

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<v Speaker 4>take my credit card, and then Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>Comes and like how am I going to pay for this?

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's great. It's great that we're you know, up

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<v Speaker 4>in the budget.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>The toys are nice because they're necessary, but somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to pay for this, you know, down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>So hopefully we're thinking that. But that's it, and life's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not gonna play the game. Jay, you gotta go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I gotta I gotta bounce, take care of guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Follow I'll wrap up with Mick right now. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into the politics of it. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get worked up again and I can't go on another rant.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not do the politics of it. You're right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we just put it on the on the tab and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a few I have a sneaking suspicion that

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why they made it as supplemental to the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Beautiful Bill is because if you're a Republican or

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat and you vote against it, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>tagged with being anti defense, right. I mean, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>it's just normal like logic, you know. Uh, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>against you know, spending money to beat China, be better

754
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<v Speaker 1>than China in terms of that and like at least

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<v Speaker 1>showing them, like, Hey, don't fuck around because like we

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<v Speaker 1>still you know, are willing to spend as much money

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. My beef is with like getting rid of

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<v Speaker 1>like you're making ICE the biggest federal agency. Uh, and

759
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<v Speaker 1>other things met people on Medicaid losing their medical coverage

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00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and things to that nature. Is I feel like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of but that's part of the other side of the bill,

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<v Speaker 1>where like I don't really feel bad if like a

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<v Speaker 1>millionaire has got to spend thirty grand more a year

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<v Speaker 1>in taxes, I really don't because like that guy doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>give a shit about me. And I'm sorry make I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're a millionaire, so I apologize for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard to be a millionaire on your government service there

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<v Speaker 2>you go to humanitarian work in the are Yeah, but no,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to stay out of the pall. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they irish, you know, they talk about two things you're

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to be religion in politics all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just national security analysts, man a right, guys focus

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<v Speaker 2>on easy things like Warren P's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just the easy stuff. Uh, Guys, do us a

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