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much for your support. So we have another chapter in

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the growing saga of now it can be told. I

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should write a book. I should put together a book

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of all of the now it can be told stories,

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I mean post Biden presidency right now it can be told.

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Now we're learning all of the things that we already

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knew but we're never really reported on. But now it

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can be told that we were right. But they're not

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going to tell us we were right. They're just gonna say, oh,

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my gosh, did you know that this was happening at

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the time, because we sure didn't, even though it's our

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job to be perceptive and then to find out these things,

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chase down rumors and leads, find out if they're true

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or not, and then report to you on what is true. Right,

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that's our job. But we didn't do it for a while,

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and so now we're doing it, and now we're finally

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able to tell the story. The latest chapter is about COVID. So,

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all you racists who thought that the that the COVID

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virus may have originated in a high tech lab in

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the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the whiz right, all of

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you racists that thought the Chinese working on some really

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top secret, you know, high tech stuff, you may have

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been more than the other non racisty people who thought

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it was from the Chinese people eating bats. Okay, so right, Okay,

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So now we find out confirmation that seven Americans maybe

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but totally did have contracted COVID nineteen. They may have

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got the bug while they were participating in the World

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Military Games. Okay. This is where service members from all

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the you know, different branches of our military and different

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militaries from around the world, they gather for sort of

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an Olympics kind of event and they compete in physical

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activity and such. And I'm not sure how they are

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able to trace this to the COVID nineteen outbreak, except

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for the fact that the Military Games were held in Wuhan,

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right down the street from the lab and the wet market.

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I'm not sure if these military people were eating all

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of the bat soup at the time, but they came

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down with COVID symptoms in October of twenty nineteen. October

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twenty nineteen, which, if my math is correct, was about

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two months before the outbreak all around the globe, right,

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So they would be sort of the patient zero through seven,

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where I guess, if your patient zero, you're zero. But

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if there were seven Americans that got COVID, allegedly seven

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of them, so I guess the seventh would be patient six.

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Why do they call it patient zero? Wouldn't it be

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patient one? Anyway? This occurred obviously several months before the

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reported start of the pandemic, according to a bombshell military

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terry report that has been obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

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And you may be wondering, Pete, why did it take

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so long for them to connect these dots? Ah, good question,

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glad you asked. They actually connected these dots a while ago.

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But the report, which was done in December of twenty

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twenty two, has been concealed, it's been buried, it's been

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blocked from our view. It was blocked by the Biden administration.

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But then you may say, but Pete, I thought that

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the Biden administration was required by law to release to

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the public all of this information. Good question as well,

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very informed follow up question. Yes they were, but they didn't.

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The report from twenty twenty two reveals for the first

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time that seven US military service members contracted COVID nineteen

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like symptoms during or after their participation in the World

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Military Games in Wuhan in October of twenty nineteen, which

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kind of contradicts the Biden administration's public claims in twenty

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twenty one that there was no evidence that any American

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participants contracted the virus at those games. The revelation adds

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to a mounting body of evidence that the virus was

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circulating in Wuhan for months before China disclosed it to

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the world in December of twenty nineteen, which kind of

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makes sense because Kami's lie rule number one. Communists lie,

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and so when they said, oh, we got this thing

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going on, yeah, this virus, we're disclosing it. See look

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at how good we are. Yeah, yeah, no, you already

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knew about this. You already knew about it for several months,

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so it also bolsters the growing consensus that it could

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have leaked into the human population from a Chinese lab.

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Another piece of evidence. I just throw this in. The

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Washington Freebeacon article did not specifically address this part of it,

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but I would just throw in an extra piece of

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information that may or may not lend some more credibility

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to this theory that the nature of the research was

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making the virus transmissible among humans. Okay, so there is

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that part of it too that I feel is I

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feel is kind of important. I feel it's a piece

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of relevant information to toss it. The twenty twenty two

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National Defense Authorization Act required the Biden administration to make

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its report on the twenty nineteen WU Hand World Military

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Games publicly available on an Internet website in a searchable

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format by summer of twenty twenty two. Though the Biden

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administration transmitted copies of the two page report to the

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House and Senate Armed Services Committee in December of twenty

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twenty two, the report did not see the light of

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day until sometime in late March, when the Trump administration

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quietly uploaded it to a Defense Department website Now, you

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may recall China has floated a couple of accusations, some

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allegations about how the virus started. One of those accusations

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was that the American military could have unleashed it during

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the World Military Games. Right, So China was saying that

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China was using this event in order to promulgate the

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story that America created it and America released it into Wuhan, which,

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to me, I would think that if you are trying

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to combat a Chinese created narrative to blame America, that

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you would have, I don't know, released this information to

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show no, we didn't, you did. It was in Wuhan.

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And by the way, not just our participants, our military

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members caught it, others did. Why would we release it

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and infect our own people? Right? But for some reason,

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the Biden administration chose not to combat this false narrative

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by releasing the information about our own military members who

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got it. I'm not sure why. Is there some sort

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of reason why the Bidens might not want to hurt

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the Chinese government now, don't I'm just thinking through like,

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is there any kind of connection? Somebody should take a

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look into whether or not the Bidens ever did business

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or something with the chiicoms that might be of value.

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you know that Hunter Biden had some dealings with a

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Chinese company?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that might actually be relevant to this whole story

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about why we didn't press on the Chinese regarding the

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World Military Games and the reported outbreak of COVID like

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symptoms in October of twenty nineteen. Maybe, but now the

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story can be told. Russ writes in and says, as

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with so many of the blockbuster revelations stories about COVID

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and a lot of other stuff, I feel like it's

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all information a lot of us have known for four

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or five years now. I remember hearing about the military

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game's infections a few weeks after the lockdown started, right, Well,

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that's because you're racist, you see, and you thought that

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it originated before the Chinese told us it did in

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the wet markets obviously. Washington Freebeacon has the story. The

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American military athletes traveled to and from Wuhan via Seattle

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Tacoma International Airport, And did you know that one of

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the earliest hot spot outbreaks was in wait for it,

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that's right, Washington State. The seven soldiers all recovered from

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their symptoms within six days. The Pentagon did not disclose

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when it discovered the potential illnesses, and the Pentagon declined

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to comment. Military athletes from Germany, France, Italy Luxembourg as

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well who competed in the game teams also reported coming

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down with COVID nineteen like symptoms during their stay in Wuhan,

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which the participants also described as a quote ghost town, which,

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to be fair, China does have a bit of a

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history of building a bunch of cities where nobody lives

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in them. Okay, so like that is that is kind

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of a thing that they do. They build these massive buildings,

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they build malls, They build a lot of stuff just

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because they're trying to keep people employed, so they just

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build stuff and then nobody lives in them. Have you

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ever seen the ghost malls? Go look up Chinese ghost mall.

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I mean not right now because you're listening. Oh, I

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mean you can listen to the show and then also

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pull it up on YouTube or something. But yeah, they

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have these ghost malls and ghost towns and stuff, and

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it's not city. These aren't places like our ghost malls

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where you had a mall and then you know, the

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businesses left and they all moved like into the revitalized

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downtown district or something. No, no, no, these are shopping

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centers that are built and nobody ever moves in because

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they're communists, so they don't. Right, they're not looking at

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the market signals and they're just building stuff to build them.

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Very eerie. And yes, they're ghost malls much like ours.

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All they have are sneaker shops. The Congressional Republicans have

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long since concluded that the twenty nineteen Muhan World Military

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Games served as one of the earliest super spreader events

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of the pandemic, with House Foreign Affairs Republicans issuing its

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findings on the matter back in August of twenty twenty one. Right,

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That's why, to Russ's point, this is probably not news

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to most people who consume conservative media because we would

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have been made aware by the Congressional Republicans about this story. So, yes,

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we were told that this stuff, this report did exist,

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but it was supposed to be published as part of

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the twenty twenty two Defense Reauthorization Act, and it wasn't.

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an oversight. That's possible. It could have just been an oversight.

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so late in March, to a section of the website

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dedicated to quote quality of life issues for military service

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members and their families. The wuhand World Military Games report

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is actually sandwiched between two different reports, but both of

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them are on military spouses obtaining occupational licenses. That's where.

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So if you're looking for the report, it's going to

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be in between those two articles. Okay, several federal agencies

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now including the CIA, the FBI, the Energy Department to

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all say that the COVID nineteen pandemic most likely originated

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from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Now the story can

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be told. So along these lines, I came across a

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couple of interesting tidbits out of a podcast that was

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hosted by is hosted by Barry Weiss. It's called Honestly and.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: Barry Weiss's project is called The Free Press. Barry Weiss,

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you may recall, was a I think she was the

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New York Times columnist, and she was basically forced out

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of the New York Times over woke stuff and anti

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semitism and all of that, and she started the Free

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Press and over the last. I don't know, it's been

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probably four years or so. She has built this platform

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into a refuge of sorts for a lot of you know,

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former mainstream journalists tending towards the left, that saw a

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problem with the woke hive mind, as Elon Musk would

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call it, and spoke out about it, got fired for it,

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got canceled for it, and then they end up over

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at the Free Press. And so she does this podcast

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called Honestly, and I think this is the most recent episode.

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She brings on the founders of Axios. I know, I know,

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I know. She brings on both of the founders of Axios,

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guy by the name of Jim van de Hie and

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another guy named Mike Allen. I want to say they

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both worked for Politico prior. I think they both worked

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for Politico. But these guys are as mainstream journalists as

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you can be. They went off and started Axios, and

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you know, say what you want about Axios, like I

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don't think that they veered too far off of the

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path that they were on. Okay, but now the truth

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of repositioning, if you will, crafting of different narratives that, oh,

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we saw what was happening, but it wasn't our fault

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that we didn't tell you this stuff was happening. And

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there's this what did Mike Allen called it? Reporter brain?

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Reporter brain. As a former reporter, I can tell you

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what he's talking about. Reporter brain. It just sounds like

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partisan ideology, That's what it sounds like. All right. If

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make the media landscape more transparent. So two founders of

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they were on the Honestly podcast with Barry Weiss, and

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first up is vand High and he points out that

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trust in American media collapsed, according to him, in three phases,

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three phases.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the trust really started to shatter over

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the last decade, and I look at it as in

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three phases. The first was the creation of Twitter. What

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happened with Twitter is people forget like now. It's a

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lot of conservative voices, a lot of independent voices. It

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was a hot bed of liberal group think for a

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long time. And it was the first time since I've

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been in this business that I would get on a

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feed and I would see reporters who I had trusted,

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who I had admired, making it crystal clear what their

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views were.

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Speaker 1: Journal journal List. Twitter wasn't the first there was a

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thing called journal list. And for people who may not recall,

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this was back in the wild West days of the

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beginning of blogs and the interweb and distribution lists email

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distribution lists, and if I recall correctly, it was The

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Daily Caller that blew the lid off of the existence

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of the journal list. And I think at the time

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this was when Tucker Carlson was still running The Daily Caller.

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a group email with all of these DC area and

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you know, high profile reporters who were all in on

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the same email list, and they would talk about stuff,

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and The Daily Caller then published what they were saying

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because somehow or other, somebody that they knew, either you know,

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got handed the email list or got added to the

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distribution list or something and they got access to all

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of it. So this idea that these reporters are on

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Twitter talking about what they really think about stuff is

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not new. Twitter just let all of us see it

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happen in real time. So I mean I saw, okay,

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maybe I am quibbling with Jim VandeHei on this, but

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I don't believe this is the first time that he

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had ever been exposed to these leftist ideologies held by

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his colleagues. I find that difficult to believe. I will

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tell you that when I was a reporter for a

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decade here in Charlotte, and I worked with reporters from

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different outlets, and we would go and cover stories. And

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when you cover a certain beat or you're covering, you're

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on a certain shift, like if you're doing you know,

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afternoons and evenings, you tend to end up at the

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same stories as the same people from the other outlets.

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apartment building waiting on fire Captain Rob Brisley to come

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to the mic and tell us what happened. And you're

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standing out there and you're just chit chatting, and you

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get an idea of the other reporters politics by the

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stories they talk about, the comments they make, whatever. So

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I find this difficult to believe that but for Twitter,

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Jim Vandehi would have no idea that he is surrounded

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in his profession by lefties. That's I don't believe this.

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did make a lot more people outside of the reporting

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world aware of the biases that these reporters are harboring.

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Speaker 3: What side they were on. You could tell in what

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they were tweeting, and you could tell in who they

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were following and who was following them. So I thought

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that was stage one, because at least before any bias

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people had they hid from the public. Now it was

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in a somewhat full view. Then came along kind of

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the COVID defund, the police word policing, where I think

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a lot of Americans were looking around and being like,

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it doesn't sit right with me, and it doesn't in

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a way it's being covered didn't sit right with them.

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coverage of Joe Biden, when people were saying, hey, I

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could see with my own two eyes that the guy

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seems pretty old, probably doesn't seem capable of being the

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president in the next term, and yet there's not a

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whole hell of a lot of coverage of it. We

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you know, Alex Thompson, our White House reporter, just won

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the White House Reporting Award because he was one of

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the few reporters to write about the decline of Joe Biden,

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and he got the help kick exactly. Some of the

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very reporters who may have you know who will applaud

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him when he wins the award in a couple of weeks.

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there's a lot of people dunking on him and saying, oh,

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that's not actually true. And we're on the other ends

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of the calls from the White House saying that you

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guys are out on a limb, you're wrong, you're crazy,

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blah blah blah. And so I think those three things

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in totality really cemented the distrust that a lot of

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people have in media, and it breaks my heart. I

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hate that. I love journalism. I am a fierce, fierce,

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depend defender of journalism. I believe that most reporters, at

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most institutions actually do try to get to the closest

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approximation of the truth and achieve it most of the time.

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I think it's a couple of bad apples who make

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it look bad for everyone.

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Speaker 1: It's just a couple of bad apples, that's all. But

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that would that would contradict his point number one about

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Twitter exposing the political bias of so many journalists, not

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just in what they tweet and what they think and

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write about and you know, throw it out there for

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everybody to see, but also what did he say the

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people that these reporters follow and the people that follow them, right,

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And once you could start mapping this stuff, you saw

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that they are living in an echo chamber. They're in

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a bubble. And the more they relied on Twitter to

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you know, generate story ideas and leads, the more pronounced

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it became, and the more obvious it was. So no,

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it's not a few bad apples, the shattering of the

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old model. It wasn't from a few bad apples, because

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if you just toss the few bad apples, then you

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can protect the rest of the barrel. Right, But that's

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not what happened. It was way too late. There were

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way too many rotten apples, and its spoiled the whole bunch.

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Here's a message from Sharpie Joe who says it's not

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a few bad apples, better described by Martha Raditch as

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just a handful fun to watch the liberals deny everything

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that they did Happy Friday. Yeah, well, and this is

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how they think they're going to reclaim some modicum of

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credibility with large audiences. And this is look, Axios is

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going to make these arguments because they're positioning themselves as

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better than the legacy outlets. They are competitors, right, so

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they are going to offer up a unique value position

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versus the other outlets that people have lost confidence in.

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So look at us, you can trust us. And I

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will take a moment here and say what I've said

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in the past about the very nature of the news operations,

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all of them. They are aggregators. Okay, every news organization,

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from the oldest newspaper to the modern cable stations, everything

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is we are aggregators. We look at all of the

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stories that are out there in the world and we

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pick and choose, you might say, selectively edit. We bring

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in the stories that we think the audience needs to

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know about, the most interesting, the most compelling stuff they

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need to know about their local governance and such, and

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you know, yes, apartment fires, car crashes, all of that

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stuff because it makes really good video. So these are

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all part of the decision making process, but they're all aggregators.

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And so the whole point of the news organization and

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the people who put their trust in the news organizations

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is that you have to be trustworthy and your audience

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has to believe that you are picking these topics for

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no other reason than you think these are the most

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important things they need to know about. But when you

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start coloring the selection of the stories, and then you

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color the way the stories are reported, people then lose

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confidence in your ability as an aggregator. And with the

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technology being what it is now, people can aggregate their

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own feeds. For good and bad, there are trade offs here, right,

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because if you're aggregating your own stuff, or you're just

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relying on the you know, the TikTok algorithm, then you're

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just you're outsourcing that to some you know, to some

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other AI tool that is not going to be able

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to make those types of decisions for you, because it's

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it's just a tool, you know, And if you're doing

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it yourself, confirmation bias usually kicks in and you start

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looking for stories and topics that you're interested in and

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that's it, or opinions that agree with yours already, and

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so you end up in an insulated bubble, which is

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exactly what the news organizations ended up in because they

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did not hire a diversity of thought. That wasn't what

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they were looking for. Okay, So here is the other

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founder of Axios, Mike Allen, also formerly I Believe of Politico,

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and he said the media's failure to cover Joe Biden's

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mental decline was all the worst parts of what he

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calls reporter brain. All right, we'll take a listen, reporter brain.

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Speaker 2: What explains the failure? Is it a lack of curiosity?

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Was it the White House successfully spinning people? How do

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you explain what happened? Mike?

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Speaker 4: Yep, Barry, this was all the worst parts of reporter

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brain coming together. And there is the group think, the

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monothink that you were talking about. You add to it

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another piece of what you were just talking about is cluelessness, right,

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and this is where the American people see something sent

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something and they're not seeing it reflected in news outlets

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that they used to trust. And so specifically with the

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Biden health people, discounted what they saw with their own eyes,

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ignored it. And this is the reporter group think part

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of it. That there is an insecurity, a herd mentality

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you don't want to be separate is like the typical

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reporter instinct. And like you know, like the three of

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us like have made great live and a great innovation

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by saying we did want to be the one that's different.

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But it's the hardest thing to teach your kid. It's

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hard to teach a reporter. We tell our reporters, if

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you go somewhere and there's two other reporters, you can

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leave there's no story. If there is, we'll see it

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on TV.

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Speaker 2: But Mike, what did the herd? I Schris you that

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herd mentality group think is incredibly powerful. It's something we

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all learned in COVID. But what did the herd want

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in this case?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: They wanted to herd?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the herd wanted the approval of the White House

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connectivity of the White House. They didn't want to look

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like they were being ideological on Twitter or another social

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media when in fact they were being clinical fail.

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Speaker 1: That was a fail. They didn't want to look like

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they were being ideological by confronting the White House by

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asking the White House, Yo, what's up with Joan is

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inability to like formulate coherent thoughts? Why is he? You know,

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why is he like walking towards closed doors and not

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knowing how to open them and asking that question would

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make you look ideological? No, it wouldn't. They knew, they

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knew what they were seeing. So on the one hand,

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he says, oh, it's cluelessness. But on the other hand,

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he says, they didn't want to appear ideological. They wanted

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to be seen as more clinical. I'm a professional, I'm

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a professional journalist. Yeah, a professional journalist would have noticed

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the thing that everybody else was noticing, and then would

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have asked about the thing that everybody is noticing. That's

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what a clinical approach would look like. An ideological approach

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would be to not ask about it. So it's completely

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the opposite of what Alan is describing. He also then says,

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into this reporter brain and insecurity, that I think is true. Okay,

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that part is true. Like a lot of reporters are

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insecure because they are going and talking about these other

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things that are occurring. They're not doing those things that

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are occurring. They're just there to watch it happen and

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then tell other people that this thing happened.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I think that there is always this level of insecurity,

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and yes, there's also the insecurity of being outside of

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the herd, no matter what, whether you're a reporter or not.

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So I think that part he is correct about. I

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think he's also correct that they were worried about losing

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their connectivity, as he called it, to the White House.

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They wanted to be cozied up to the administration so

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they could get the scoops because that's what they want

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to get, and so if you are an adversary, then

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you may not get the scoops. They don't seem to

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care about that in a Republican administration, but they really

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care about it in a Democrat one. Why because they

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are of like mind as is their audience, and so

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those scoops matter more. Group think. What's another word for

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that one? Peer pressure based on what ideology and getting

528
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invited to the cocktail parties. Right. Limbaugh talked about this

529
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for years, the cocktail circuit. They want to be in

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the club, they want to be in the power elite.

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As for this advice that they give their reporters, if

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you show up and there are two other reporters there,

533
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you can leave. No, that's crazy advice. I've never heard that. No,

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you go and you maybe ask the questions that the

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other two group thinking herd mentality insecure reporters don't think of.

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That's why you go. It's a newsworthy thing and you

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can then report on it from your own perspective. Right,

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all right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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