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Welcome in former 43 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,079 b y u a d. We got val hail on 44 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:03,879 the line, vow how. 45 00:02:03,799 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: You living brother? 46 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 5: Good Ben? 47 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:08,759 Speaker 4: How are you doing doing awesome? All this well in 48 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,520 Cougar Country, my friend? It seems like everything is trending 49 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,400 in the right direction. 50 00:02:15,039 --> 00:02:16,319 Speaker 6: That's absolutely right. 51 00:02:16,479 --> 00:02:19,199 Speaker 5: It's it's nice to get all this behind us so 52 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,199 we can focus on a game coming up on Saturday. 53 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,439 Speaker 3: Right, Oh, man, I know it's answered much about it. 54 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:27,439 Speaker 4: Man, it feels good to to. 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,039 Speaker 3: Have our guy. 56 00:02:29,199 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 6: Right. 57 00:02:29,439 --> 00:02:32,319 Speaker 4: You've been a part of these negotiations. You've been a 58 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:36,439 part of these situations before. What type of whirlwind do 59 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,199 you think, Brian Santiago, Shane Reevees, Keith Vorkink, Elder Gilbert 60 00:02:41,199 --> 00:02:44,800 we're in when when they knew that Penn State was 61 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,840 swinging big for their guy, Kalani Satake. 62 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's really I think this is unlike 63 00:02:52,159 --> 00:02:57,360 anything b Way You've ever experienced before, and it's just 64 00:02:57,719 --> 00:02:58,080 kind of. 65 00:02:58,039 --> 00:02:59,039 Speaker 6: Fascinating to watch. 66 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,439 Speaker 5: It's so foreign what I experienced even twenty years ago. 67 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,479 I remember when Gary Croton came in, he brought an 68 00:03:05,479 --> 00:03:08,719 agent with him, who incidentally was Tom Holmo's agent when 69 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:12,960 he was a cal Also and with Leavell, there was 70 00:03:13,039 --> 00:03:15,960 no agent. You know, Lavell, had you just sit down, 71 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:17,159 come in the office. 72 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,879 Speaker 6: You'd work out a deal. 73 00:03:19,759 --> 00:03:23,159 Speaker 5: And so when agents get involved, it makes it a 74 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,639 much more interesting and I would even say difficult dynamic 75 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:31,879 from the university standpoint. But the fact that all of 76 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,520 these people got involved and they did something unprecedented in 77 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,000 BYU history and coming up with a compensation package that 78 00:03:42,479 --> 00:03:44,280 is one of the best in the country from what 79 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:47,080 I've heard. I don't know what it is exactly, it's 80 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,120 just it's amazing to see BYU get to this point. 81 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:53,000 I mean, this is the same university. You know, we 82 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:56,479 Leavell paid Doug Scoville nineteen thousand a year to come 83 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,080 and coach at BYU. When you know, when Doug came 84 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,360 back in the late seventies and when I was athletic director, 85 00:04:03,479 --> 00:04:06,759 Lavelle's salary at BYU was not even two hundred thousand 86 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,800 dollars when I came in. And so now we've got 87 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,520 a coach who's one of the top paid coaches in Americas. 88 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,759 It shows you how far things have changed and how 89 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:18,439 far we've come. 90 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 6: And good for Kilani for flexing. 91 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 5: And getting this type of a deal. And I'm sure 92 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,000 it wasn't just for him as has been reported. You know, 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,120 I knew Kilane by doing this would be trying to 94 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,480 take care of his assistants and trying to get more 95 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,879 resources for the program. It sounded like he was successful 96 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,279 in getting all of that good for him. 97 00:04:41,439 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: No doubt about it. 98 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,759 Speaker 4: Look, I mean what needs to happen in order to 99 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,199 get certain things like this approved. We know you know 100 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,360 that that BYU's athletic department is self sustaining. You know, 101 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:59,839 it's revenue comes from ticket sales, corporate sponsorships, subsidies from donors, 102 00:05:01,399 --> 00:05:07,120 TV money, uh, you know, merchandising, licensing. 103 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: Right, Like, there's there's a number of funnels. 104 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 4: That booy up the athletic department and uh, you know, 105 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:17,000 and then they utilize those funds to pay their W 106 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,519 two employees, their FTEs, their coaches. 107 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 3: Et cetera. 108 00:05:22,319 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 4: It's becoming a little bit more interesting now with revenue 109 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,120 sharing et cetera. There, But like, how how involved do 110 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:34,319 the Barder trustees get in these situations where uh, it 111 00:05:34,439 --> 00:05:37,560 seems like, you know a lot of the funds aren't 112 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,279 necessarily coming from the institution itself, like meaning upper campus 113 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:48,399 as a university, but like it does impact maybe public perception. 114 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,199 I guess we don't know how it operates from a 115 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,319 P and L standpoint, from from a monetary standpoint, necessarily. 116 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: We don't have access to that. 117 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,319 Speaker 4: Could you give us a little bit of enlightenment about 118 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:00,600 how involved the border of Trustees is in to approve 119 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:01,480 such things? 120 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,519 Speaker 5: Well, in this particular case, I'm guessing they were very 121 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:11,120 involved because as I mentioned, this is unprecedented and even 122 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,240 though it's not necessarily coming from tiding funds in the church, 123 00:06:14,879 --> 00:06:18,600 it's the perception issue, you know. I'm sure the conversation 124 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,279 is do we really want to be paying our coach 125 00:06:22,399 --> 00:06:25,439 that much money? You know, when people are thinking that, 126 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,040 you know, we might be using the widows might to 127 00:06:28,079 --> 00:06:32,879 do this, which they aren't, but people still think they 128 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:38,000 I'm sure they had the conversation and it shows the 129 00:06:38,079 --> 00:06:43,759 respect that they have for Kilane that they were willing 130 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,360 to go this far and do this much. And you know, 131 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,560 it would have been catastrophic for Kilanie to leave right now. 132 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:55,040 I mean, you think about recruiting, recruit signing is today 133 00:06:55,879 --> 00:06:57,959 what would have happened if he would have announced Monday 134 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,240 or Tuesday that he's going to Penn State. Any of 135 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:02,720 these recruits would have said, oh well, let's see maybe 136 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:05,279 not what if you took all his staff with him. 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,600 You know, BYU football would have been starting from scratch 138 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,519 again pretty much. 139 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,279 Speaker 6: You know, maybe Jay Hill. 140 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 5: Stays and becomes the head coach, and you know, things 141 00:07:14,079 --> 00:07:17,600 go on, but the disruption would have been phenomenal. And 142 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:21,199 I think they realized that. And Klane, quite frankly, has 143 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,720 had great success in the last two or three years 144 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,759 and he represents everything that the board of trustees wants 145 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:33,920 in a coach. I mean, he's doing it the right 146 00:07:33,959 --> 00:07:37,800 way at BYU. So you know, hats off to them 147 00:07:37,839 --> 00:07:40,920 for saying, let's go, let's do this, and for the 148 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,439 donors who were willing to step up and make it happen. 149 00:07:44,439 --> 00:07:47,439 And that's what I understand is really driving a lot 150 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,439 of this. And quite frankly, you know, we get a 151 00:07:51,439 --> 00:07:53,639 lot more money by being in the Big twelve than 152 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,439 we used to. But the way I see it, the 153 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:01,480 big difference between BYU right now and even three years 154 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:04,560 ago is the way the donors have stepped up. I mean, 155 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,720 it's just remarkable to see how they've come forward. Back 156 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,800 back when I was athletic director, We had a few 157 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,560 donors and they gave some money, but it was nothing 158 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,600 like happens now with the Silicon Slopes coming into the 159 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,480 valley and these other businesses primarily you know, started by 160 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,199 LDS people. They've just been phenomenal at supporting the program. 161 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:29,519 It's it's remarkable. 162 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 4: Well, it's truly a new era of BYU athletics, one 163 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,519 that has tremendous momentum right now, tremendous investment and. 164 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: You just love you love to see it. 165 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: If you're a BYU fed, you love to see the 166 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:48,960 momentum right now. And look, I mean, lots of things 167 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,399 have changed since you've been the ad. Like you even 168 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,960 commented on social media that Johnny Harlen playing the national anthemon. 169 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:57,399 Speaker 3: Is electric guitar. 170 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 4: No way the Cougar fan would have allowed that, you know, 171 00:09:01,799 --> 00:09:03,159 twenty five years ago. 172 00:09:04,799 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it was funny because every time somebody 173 00:09:08,639 --> 00:09:13,320 sang the national anthem even a little bit unique, I 174 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,480 would get I literally would get letters and emails and 175 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,200 oftentimes copied to the president of the church and the 176 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,559 president of the university complaining about and you know what, 177 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,879 in fairness, a lot of these people were like World 178 00:09:25,919 --> 00:09:28,000 War two veterans, yes, and they. 179 00:09:27,919 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 4: Were typically it's going to be the fats, right, yeah, 180 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,840 in godless American God bless those that are serving in 181 00:09:34,919 --> 00:09:37,320 the military, and were grateful for them, no doubt. 182 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,159 Speaker 5: Yeah. But it was just funny, you know, because if 183 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,120 we had allowed something like that to happen back then, man, 184 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:47,960 all heck would break. Was kind of like when Tom Holmo, 185 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,200 you know, when the Cougarrettes. 186 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:50,279 Speaker 6: Played a song. 187 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 5: It was edited, but apparently it was a song that 188 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,759 was had some pretty risque lyrics that were edited out 189 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,320 that people still wrote and complained and Tom had to 190 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,919 step up and say, hey, that's my bad. 191 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:02,519 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. 192 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 5: We'll you know, we'll take care of that. 193 00:10:04,799 --> 00:10:05,279 Speaker 6: Yeah. 194 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 5: That's kind of the way it was all the time. 195 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,039 And what was funny is I right after he played 196 00:10:10,039 --> 00:10:12,360 that thing, I turned to my son when the cougar 197 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,440 Rats were out dancing, and they do an amazing job, 198 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,919 I said, when Ernest Wilkinson was president of the university, 199 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,840 if they had done that routine, they had all been 200 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:24,840 expelled from school. You know, that's how far we've come. 201 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 6: You know. 202 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,919 Speaker 5: Back then, it was just a different era. I mean, 203 00:10:30,039 --> 00:10:33,559 it was very strict and rigid and there's no way 204 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,639 they would allow that kind of dancing out on the 205 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,320 floor or out on the field. Yeah. 206 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: Well, hopefully it's all good growth. 207 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 4: Obviously, we want to abide by all the laws and 208 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:51,039 regulations and stay true, you know, you know, and keep 209 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,600 your hand to the rod, obviously, but I do think 210 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,320 we've made some really good progress in that regard. Well, 211 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,000 there's a lot of them, agree, there are a lot 212 00:10:59,039 --> 00:11:01,799 of them meant to me in the athletletics world right now, 213 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,679 and BYU basketball, BYU football highly ranked, and when you 214 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:13,360 look at the overall momentum, like, what's the cap what's 215 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,799 the ceiling for BYU athletics right now, especially for its flagship. 216 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:23,519 Speaker 5: Programs, Well, you know, gosh, after considering what's been accomplished 217 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,799 and where we're headed and the recruiting classes we're having, 218 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:31,320 I would say the cap is that we typically ought 219 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:36,240 to have programs that are competing for a national championship. 220 00:11:36,279 --> 00:11:38,919 We may not always, you know, be right at the top, 221 00:11:38,919 --> 00:11:43,039 but top ten programs in the various programs at sports 222 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,919 football and basketball that we have, and maybe even a 223 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:48,679 few others we're already there, and some like our cross 224 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,000 country teams and a few others here and there. But 225 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,559 you know, you think that with the resources we have, 226 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,120 if we can continue to recruit like we have, that 227 00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:03,320 should be kind of just the goal. You know, we're 228 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,399 going to compete for a Big twelve championship and both 229 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,039 sports as well as you know, be a top ten 230 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,080 ranked team. That doesn't seem out of the realm of 231 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,000 possibility given what we've accomplished lately. 232 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 3: Val Hell Ladies and Gentlemen. 233 00:12:18,039 --> 00:12:21,279 Speaker 4: Former b YU A D talking some BYU Athletics here 234 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,799 on your Utah ESPN Radio network. You're looking at how 235 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,559 BUYU is getting stiff armed in the College Football Playoff 236 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:27,960 Committee's eyes. 237 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: How do you evaluate that? 238 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: I get asked all the time, like why is it 239 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:33,759 that they don't want BYU and the Big Boys Club? 240 00:12:34,279 --> 00:12:36,960 Is it the product on the field. It's hard to 241 00:12:37,159 --> 00:12:39,679 argue their resume right now, but they're doing it. They're 242 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,759 just leaving the entirely, They're just keeping them fixated at eleven? 243 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:44,679 Is it religious bigotry? 244 00:12:44,799 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: Is is it? 245 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,639 Speaker 4: You know, maybe institutional bigotry and discrimination? 246 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:51,399 Speaker 5: Is it? 247 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,639 Speaker 3: You know, maybe last year I brought this up. 248 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,159 Speaker 4: Last year the colleg Football Playoff Committee did invite, did 249 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,480 bring in Boise State in SMU, and they really weren't 250 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:01,919 that competit, so they want to bring in and Alabama 251 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,679 was was tossed to the side. And Alabama's a perennial 252 00:13:06,279 --> 00:13:08,200 over the last twenty plus years, one of the best 253 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,720 teams in college football, obviously led by a legendary coach. 254 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: What do you make of it? 255 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 6: Val Well? 256 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 5: By you has always been shunned, you know, rightly or wrongly? 257 00:13:20,159 --> 00:13:23,360 You know, clear back in ninety six, I remember going 258 00:13:23,399 --> 00:13:26,200 with Levell in New York City. We were there for 259 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,120 an event and they invited us to go to the 260 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,919 announcement party that I can't remember CBS or somewhere so 261 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:40,039 level and I go there and and course they had 262 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,879 they really had no intention of inviting BYU. That's what 263 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,480 was so embarrassing that we knew that they weren't going 264 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:48,679 to include BYU, even though b way you deserved to 265 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,960 be included. And as soon as they announced it that 266 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,200 BYU wasn't there, all of the coaches just immediately vacated 267 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,919 the room, left Levell just standing there. It was really 268 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:06,440 I felt so bad for Lavell because it was really 269 00:14:06,519 --> 00:14:11,440 a tremendous show of disrespect for him. They shouldn't they 270 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,279 knew that Bayu wasn't going to be invited there. There's 271 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,720 no way they were going to do that. And it 272 00:14:15,799 --> 00:14:18,159 was because they didn't want to share the money. I mean, 273 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,399 let's be honest, this is a financial decision. 274 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and. 275 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,879 Speaker 5: So you know, leavell we just kind of had to 276 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:30,360 wander out, find a taxi and find our way back home. 277 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,360 You know, they had brought a car over to pick 278 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,039 us up, but they weren't going to give us a 279 00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:37,480 car going back, you know. And again in two thousand 280 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:42,559 and one, you know, we're undefeated and we're getting ready 281 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:45,960 to go. I can't remember what stage it was, but 282 00:14:46,039 --> 00:14:51,000 they end up basically telling us, no, we're not in 283 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,080 the you're not included, and lo and behold, we go 284 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,799 out and lose it. It was a big distraction for 285 00:14:57,919 --> 00:14:58,480 us back then. 286 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: I want to pivot back to some of our original 287 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,480 conversation here, Val I was pulling up US Department of 288 00:15:06,559 --> 00:15:07,440 Education numbers. 289 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: I was trying to compare and contrast. 290 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,759 Speaker 4: What BY has how BYU financially has changed from an 291 00:15:12,759 --> 00:15:16,960 athletic Department standpoint since about two thousand and five, if 292 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,039 I'm not mistaken, I was looking at those numbers and 293 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,919 I don't know if they're accurate, but two thousand and five, 294 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:26,240 the athletic department revenue generated about twenty million dollars. 295 00:15:26,679 --> 00:15:27,879 Speaker 3: Does that sound accurate? 296 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 5: That's yes, that's what it was when I left in 297 00:15:30,519 --> 00:15:31,399 two thousand and four. 298 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:34,639 Speaker 3: Okay, right in twenty million, twenty million dollars. 299 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: The most recent numbers that we have in twenty twenty 300 00:15:38,279 --> 00:15:42,960 three is one hundred and thirty million dollars. Give us 301 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,399 some perspective here, like what's going on? What happened over 302 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:47,399 that that expansive time. 303 00:15:49,039 --> 00:15:53,159 Speaker 5: Well, like I say, I think, I think fundraising has 304 00:15:53,279 --> 00:15:57,360 taken off and done significant things. I think obviously in 305 00:15:57,399 --> 00:16:00,639 the Big twelve now it's the rev new share is 306 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:05,000 significantly more. I think with just TV revenue, even when 307 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,519 we went independent, that became a lot more because we 308 00:16:09,519 --> 00:16:12,120 weren't sharing it with all of the other mount West 309 00:16:12,159 --> 00:16:16,000 conference people. So I think it's a combination of everything. 310 00:16:16,039 --> 00:16:19,919 But I really think the fundraising aspect has been one 311 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:23,039 of the biggest things. You know, that does accounted for 312 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,120 that increase in revenue, and now with the Big twelve 313 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:29,799 revenue that significant as well. 314 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's a lot happening here. Well, the 315 00:16:32,879 --> 00:16:36,159 thing is the twenty twenty three they didn't they didn't 316 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:39,039 get a share of the TV money at that time. 317 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,600 That would have been the former deal that I think 318 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,799 it was during independence, which would have been I don't know, 319 00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:47,360 four or five million, right which you know it's a sum, 320 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,159 but you know, these big, these Power four conferences, they're 321 00:16:51,159 --> 00:16:53,600 going to get, you know, twenty thirty forty million dollars 322 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,000 in TV distribute. 323 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: So we're at one thirty right now. 324 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 4: Once you become a full member, you're looking at one 325 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,720 hundred and fifty hundred sixty hundred seventy one hundred and 326 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,039 eighty million dollars. That's a that's that's not just a 327 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:07,880 small business anymore. That's a that's a pretty that's a 328 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,160 that's a growing business. 329 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: That's a robust set of personnel. 330 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 4: I don't know how many employees were there when you 331 00:17:13,279 --> 00:17:15,200 were in two thousand and five, howenty in two thousand 332 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,680 and four, two thousand five, how many ployees. 333 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 5: I would say we had maybe about one hundred. I 334 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,720 would bet there's more than twice, maybe almost three times 335 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,039 as many now as there were. I mean, you think 336 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:30,640 about it. Levell when he started coaching at BYU in 337 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,160 nineteen seventy two, there were six football coaches, including Leavell 338 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,559 Utah and Utah State had eight on their staff at 339 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:43,680 the time. And now you know, they also had a 340 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:49,319 couple of trainers, or probably three trainers, Rod Kimball, Marv Roberson, 341 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,000 you know, Oli Julkinen and some of those guys. Now 342 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,440 they've got more basketball assistant coaches. And they had football 343 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,839 coaches back then. And you know, when the basketball team played, 344 00:17:59,839 --> 00:18:01,880 this kind of funny because you know, all these guys 345 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,279 come out on the floor and I'm thinking, Man, when 346 00:18:04,319 --> 00:18:08,160 I was athletic director, you had one head coach, three assistants. 347 00:18:08,759 --> 00:18:11,480 I think he had a director of basketball operations then 348 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,920 and maybe one other person. But now I don't know, 349 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,680 I don't even know how many are on that staff. 350 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:22,400 Same thing with football, they've got, you know, all kinds 351 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,240 of people. They even got general managers. Now they got 352 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,079 a general manager for the program. 353 00:18:27,519 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 6: So the size of. 354 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,559 Speaker 5: The staff has just grown significantly over the last few years. 355 00:18:34,559 --> 00:18:38,240 And I guess that's I guess they You know, when 356 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:41,440 you joined a big conference like the Big twelve, you 357 00:18:41,519 --> 00:18:43,480 kind of have to do that keep up I guess 358 00:18:43,519 --> 00:18:44,200 with everything. 359 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy times, no doubt about it. Val Always love 360 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,720 chaddick with you. Always learned something from you. I know 361 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,960 our listeners love hearing from you. Best way to support you? 362 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:56,079 Speaker 3: What do you do? How you do it? 363 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 4: I know you've You're still staying busy, got projects. 364 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: You also wrote a book for recently. 365 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, a year ago I wrote a book called Out 366 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,279 of the Blue and Insiders look at the Rise of 367 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:10,680 BAU Athletics. That was a fun experience. I'm just kind 368 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,440 of starting the process of recording it and having it 369 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,319 as an audible book. So I still have some printed 370 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,079 copies that did quite well, and then I'm going to 371 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,039 put it out on audio format for those it'd probably 372 00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:25,480 be I don't know if I'll get it done before 373 00:19:25,519 --> 00:19:27,559 the end of the year, but right after that I 374 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:29,839 hope to have it out. I'm surprised how many people 375 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,519 don't really read books anymore. They listen to them, so 376 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,559 I thought that would be fun to get out so 377 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,039 people could It's just my memoirs my time in the 378 00:19:39,079 --> 00:19:42,279 athletic program, and not basically during the Lavelle Edwards years 379 00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:45,240 and the croaking years. You know what happened? 380 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: Love that, man, It's a great book. 381 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: I've read through it and I invite everyone to download it, 382 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,440 especially once the audible version is ready to go. You 383 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,319 got a great voice for it as well. Val, you 384 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,279 got sultry tones. Man, I'll listen to that on audible 385 00:19:58,279 --> 00:19:59,039 any day of the week. 386 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, well Ben, it's always fun to chat 387 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,759 with you. Thanks for taking time to golf. 388 00:20:05,079 --> 00:20:07,079 Speaker 3: All right, appreciate you. Val. Hell ladies and gentlemen. 389 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,279 Speaker 4: Former b yu ad talking some Brigham football guys. 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I 461 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:55,000 know we've been talking to Tunnel Football with signing day, 462 00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:58,240 early signing Day and Klane's extension. But how about them 463 00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:00,960 Coog's on the basketball court. What do you got for us? 464 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll be at the game tonight been just what 465 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:05,279 a little less than an hour and a half to 466 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,400 tip off, Number nine BYU. That's where they were ranked 467 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,000 in the poll coming off the tournament win. As we know, 468 00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:12,880 obviously they taking down dating a good basketball team. 469 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,519 Speaker 1: Look, and let's just go back a little bit. 470 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,759 Speaker 7: Remember what I told everybody the Miami one was gonna 471 00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:17,799 be a good win, good win? 472 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: What did they do? 473 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:18,559 Speaker 5: Ben? 474 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 7: They went on the road be the old Mits team 475 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,839 that BAU struggled with last year. That's a good coach, 476 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:25,240 Ole Miss and that program is a good program. And 477 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:28,160 they also be Georgetown, so that's a good win for BAU. 478 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,039 Gonna be a quad too, for sure, could move up 479 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,160 to a quad one BYU. Right now the coaches poll 480 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,160 number ten, but the ap pole nine, so almost the same, 481 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,519 but not there just one spot down in the coaches pole, 482 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:41,480 per Kim Pomp, the number twelfth in the net the thirteenth. 483 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: Look. 484 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 7: Kevin Young in his second year been a I don't 485 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,960 know how fast any coaches gotten the fifty wins, but 486 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,920 with a win tonight, that'd be his thirty third win 487 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,960 as a college coach. He is going to get the 488 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,119 fifty wins this season. There's eighteen more wins. I think 489 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,799 in this season for Kevin Young, Richie Saunders, the top 490 00:24:56,839 --> 00:25:01,039 score Ben averaging over twenty points per game, the top king. 491 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: Nothing against AJ. 492 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 7: Everybody said, oh, all as will be and him rightfully so. 493 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:07,599 But the top king, you're seeing it freed up and Ben. 494 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,880 I want to go back to the game against Dayton, 495 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,200 and this is where I really get like nerdy, where 496 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,000 I watch film when the game was tied seven sixty 497 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,960 seven sixty seven. AJ goes three plays in a row 498 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,880 where he makes the right read. Remember Yukon, he was forcingate, 499 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,960 Remember Villanova at the beginning of the season. 500 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: Fortunate. 501 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 7: He passes the ball to rob, They get the ball 502 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,079 to Richie. Richie hits a and one three, he gets 503 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,400 to double. Again, passes after row Row hits a big 504 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,400 time three, again, passes the ball out. They rotated, he 505 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,880 gets the ball back and then he's able to get 506 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,720 downhill and score. That's the development of AJ and why 507 00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:41,640 Kevin Young says aj' is so smart because AJ is 508 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,599 able to do that. And you have to watch tape 509 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,240 really to understand. And for those that maybe not have 510 00:25:46,279 --> 00:25:48,359 played the game, just go back and watch AJ's decision 511 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,240 making he's improved already as a passer, and he doesn't 512 00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:53,559 force anything. Maybe that's what he was doing early, but 513 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:55,039 he doesn't need to do that. And that's what I 514 00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:57,759 love of how coachable he is. You've said it, I've 515 00:25:57,799 --> 00:25:59,599 said it. Kevin Young can go up to any of 516 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:01,720 his players and especially AJ and say hey, don't do 517 00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:03,799 this or do this, and he doesn't diffinitely. And he's 518 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:06,039 grabbing about six and a half boards per games, so 519 00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:06,960 he's getting on the boards. 520 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: And then Rob right Ben averaging about five and a 521 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,400 half assists. 522 00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:11,559 Speaker 7: Look, when you got guys that are attacking the glass 523 00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:13,480 and moving the ball, well you're gonna be able to 524 00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:15,640 defeat the foe. And look they play, you know, cal 525 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,400 Baptist Tonight University. They're seven to one, but look they're 526 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,839 one hundred and thirtieth in Kimpalm. They're not ranked sixty 527 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,160 one in the net. So BYU is heavily favored in 528 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:23,559 this game. 529 00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: They should win it. 530 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 7: There on a three game winning streak right now, four 531 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,480 and one, and neutral site games, there'll be five to 532 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:31,559 one after today, they'll get their seventh win. Not worried 533 00:26:31,559 --> 00:26:33,519 about it at all, but look, you gotta finish off 534 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:35,599 in non conference play strong. 535 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: You gotta win this game. You know why, Ben, you 536 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,559 got two big time games. 537 00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 7: You go back to the East Coast before you play 538 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,160 in the Jimmy, what is the invitation of the Classic 539 00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:46,599 against Clemson at six thirty? What is the Eastern time 540 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,039 over there on the East Coast. Clemson's a good team. 541 00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:51,160 That's another opportunity to get a Quad one game. So 542 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,240 now I don't want to say these lobs, but these 543 00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:55,960 opportunities where you can have your debt play. We talked 544 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,680 with JT early in the week Alexi Coastitch, that guy 545 00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:00,640 is gonna have to gain some confidence. Well, this is 546 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,920 the game for him to get off and get a 547 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,440 lot of minutes in this game. This is a game 548 00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:06,640 for the starters, maybe not to play as much. We'll 549 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,039 see what Kevin Young does. But the three point percentage been, 550 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:11,519 it's gone up. They're shooting thirty seven percent now from 551 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:13,759 the field. That's better than when they were shooting thirty 552 00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:15,279 two to thirty three. That wouldn't get it done, but 553 00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:17,920 thirty seven can get it done. They're shooting about forty 554 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,400 two percent from the free from what is it from 555 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,440 their field goal defense? Excuse me, they're holding teams to 556 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,920 about forty two percent to the field. They're shooting forty 557 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,960 nine percent excuse me, from the field, and they're a 558 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,839 plus fifteen score on margin right now. The defense is 559 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,279 really picked up as they're holding to opponents to sixty 560 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,240 nine points per game. That's been the biggest thing is 561 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,160 how would they be able to play on the perimeter beIN? 562 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,640 And they've been able to lock in, so I think 563 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,480 this is another victory tonight. I think they'll limit cal 564 00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:44,240 Baptists off the boards. They do a good job at 565 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,839 rebounding the ball, so second chance points. And they're shooting 566 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,079 been seventy six percent from the free throw line as 567 00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:51,240 a team. Last year that was a struggle as a 568 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,920 whole until late in the season. They were missing too 569 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,240 many free throws. They still clink some free throws, but 570 00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:57,720 better to start off the season. I'm pretty sure they'll 571 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,200 get strong down the stretch. But I like everything right 572 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,359 now about this BILLIU basketball team. But look a lot 573 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,720 of things they can correct. You don't want to be 574 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,960 playing your best basketball. Ormind fans been what you reminded 575 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,400 of them of last year? When do you want to 576 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,240 play your best basketball? Into February beginning of March. That 577 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,039 eight to nine game winning streak that they went on 578 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,440 was fantastic, and this year I think they have an 579 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,240 opportunity to go on that win streak again. Be Houston 580 00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:20,519 in the regular season, compete for the Big Twelve title. 581 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,160 I think you'll have at the end of the day 582 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,000 BYU in Houston competing for the Big Twelve championship in basketball. 583 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:28,480 And how glorious is that for BOU Athletics been You 584 00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:31,079 can say in the calendar year that your football program 585 00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:34,160 and your basketball program has an opportunity to be able 586 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,759 to compete and bring home a title. And if that 587 00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:37,880 were to happen. Look, I don't know, Ben, you've been 588 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,839 around longer doing this to me, But a BAU football 589 00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:43,079 brings home a Big Twelve title, and then BOU basketball 590 00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:44,640 brings home a Big Twelve title. Bo he gets to 591 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,880 the College football playoffs, the BAU basketball gets a top 592 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,440 two seed. 593 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: That might be the. 594 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 7: Greatest year in BYU athletics, even without winning a national 595 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,880 championship in football or basketball. I haven't seen the season 596 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,839 like that since I've covered I don't know if you 597 00:28:56,839 --> 00:28:59,319 can go pinpoint the last time that both programs did it. 598 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,079 The moment right now for athletics is tremendous, especially now 599 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:05,319 that Kilanie has this new deal, and I look forward 600 00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:07,720 now to being able to see basketball and football compete 601 00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:10,279 at the highest level every single year, not only for 602 00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:13,079 a conference championship, but now for a national championship. 603 00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:16,039 Speaker 4: Has well been great breakdown from Ronald the three Man. 604 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,839 Let's go a couple last things before we let you go. 605 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 3: Cougar Nation. 606 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 4: Bryce Harper showed up to practice today. That's right, Bryce Harper, 607 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:30,000 the two time MVP of the Major League Baseball League. Now, 608 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,640 Bryce has not always been a friend to Brigham. He 609 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,200 has said on even college game day things that you 610 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,319 Cougar fans may deplore. He has not been a fan, 611 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,839 but he's showing up. Look, this is what Kilanie does. 612 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:49,480 He brings people that may hate Brigham, may not understand Brigham, 613 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,079 may not want to have anything to do with Brigham, 614 00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,400 and he brings him into the fans says, look, you 615 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,279 love Brigham, now, don't you Jedi mind tricks. He kills 616 00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:01,960 him with love, loves and learns them right. And now 617 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,480 Bryce Harper is hanging out at BYU. 618 00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: Love it great news. 619 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,519 Speaker 4: By you signed a phenomenal class earlier today, Ryder lines 620 00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:13,559 the headliner Bob Malatala. We got so many four stars 621 00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:16,880 in this group. It was a tremendous day. A top 622 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,799 twenty class who signed with BYU Football. It doesn't get 623 00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:25,759 better than that. Kalani signed a I believe a ten 624 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:28,440 year deal. Some people think it's you know, it could 625 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,440 be a five yeard. I think it is ten year deal. 626 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:37,279 And it's nine million dollars per nine million per year, 627 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,039 nine to nine nine and a half ten to fifteen 628 00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:44,599 million per year in nil allocated to the UH, the 629 00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:46,960 the players, and then on top of that, you're gonna 630 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,799 have some rev share money coming from the athletic department 631 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,839 via that TV contract at BYU has with the big 632 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,160 twelve UH. 633 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: It's a glorious day to be a cougar. 634 00:30:56,599 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 4: There's some weeping and wailing and ashing teeth out there, though, 635 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,960 Why because by us number eleven in the country rather 636 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,720 than in the top ten in the country. 637 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 3: Who sits ahead of them? Notre Dame? 638 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 4: What has Notre Dame done that BYU hasn't. This is 639 00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:17,079 one of the worst cases of brand bias I think 640 00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:21,920 we have ever seen. And furthermore, there's never been a 641 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,039 one loss power for power five team in the ap 642 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,880 Pole era that has one loss at the regular at 643 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,559 the end of the regular season, that is ranked eleventh 644 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,480 or worse, they're always in the top ten. So BYU 645 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,839 should also be in the top ten. But when you 646 00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:47,759 compare contrast BYU's resume and Notre Dames, and remember, britt, 647 00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:52,400 your Mark and many others are taking the firing irish 648 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:58,119 to task and the committee rather to task because that's 649 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,079 the low hanging fruit here. Okay, it just is, it's 650 00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:06,759 the right fruit to pick two. By the way, BYU's 651 00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,920 record is eleven to one. Notre Dame is ten to 652 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:14,319 two wins versus college football playoff ranked BYU's got two. 653 00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:18,160 Notre Dame's got one wins versus ball eligible teams. BYU 654 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,160 has six. Notre Dame has four. BA strength. The record 655 00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,759 is six. Notre Dame is thirteenth BYU Strength, the schedule 656 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,680 is thirty fifth. Notre Dame's is forty second. Average winning 657 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,400 margin scoring margin there eleven and a half points for BYU, 658 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,000 twenty four and a half for Notre Dame. Notre Dame 659 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,759 has yeah rolled a few teams. There's no doubt in 660 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:42,200 its reason that November bias is definitely booing them up 661 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,759 that November October late momentum sp plus ranking BYU's thirteenth. 662 00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: This is a predictive efficiency metric, and. 663 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 4: Notre Dame's number five that game control and margin of 664 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,680 victory helps them in that regard sp plus top forty 665 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,119 wins though Boways got four, Notre Dame's only got two. 666 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:06,319 The beaten opponent win loss record BYU sixty two and 667 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,680 fifty two their opponents and Notre Dame's opponents have a 668 00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:14,480 losing record fifty four and sixty five. Best wins Boa 669 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:17,279 He's got Utah and U of A, and then Notre 670 00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:21,240 Dame has USC and Pitt. Worst losses by has one. 671 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:25,880 It's Texas Tech worse losses for Notre Dame Miami and 672 00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:28,079 Texas A and M the only. 673 00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:28,599 Speaker 3: Losses they have. 674 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 4: That's uh, that's how I think for the BYU fans 675 00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:38,720 and guys like Dave portno Dave Portnoy, who has also 676 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,920 become a big big BYU fans stool Presidente. He's a 677 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,440 Kilani fan, He's a BYU fan, he's a bear Bachmeyer fan. 678 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:53,839 He's he's becoming maybe the biggest fan on social media. 679 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,640 At least he's got a hashtag provo Dave wherever he goes. Anyway, 680 00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:03,200 he's making it a case for BYU. Everyone's attacking the 681 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,440 fighting Irish. Why are they attacking the fighting Irish? Obviously 682 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,440 because of their resume, But the other component of all 683 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,320 is Joey McGuire also h put Notre Dame over his 684 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,800 leg and gave them a little spanking two calling them 685 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,320 out recently in his press conference. Everyone's trying to pick 686 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,079 fights with Notre Dame and I love it. I'm here 687 00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:23,360 for why Because they're independent. They're independent, and they're affiliated 688 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,559 with the ACC. And the ACC is the weakest powerfour 689 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:32,639 conference in the country, so you know what I mean, Like, 690 00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,920 they got their independence right, they have their branding, their 691 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,920 equity that they've built up for a long time. 692 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: I get it. 693 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,599 Speaker 4: But they're still correlated, they're assigned, they're aligned with the ACEC, 694 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,000 the weakest powerfur conference. 695 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 7: Then I still have something out to sound off on. 696 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,360 I know we're talking about that. Did you hear the 697 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,960 finalist for the Shawn Alexander Ward? 698 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:52,639 Speaker 1: Did you see that? 699 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Freshman of the Year award. 700 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 7: On it like the disrespect I mean, time Bag twelve 701 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,119 Freshman of the week Offensive Player of the Week was 702 00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:05,280 the Manding Award twice. I'm pretty sure it might have 703 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,920 been three times, was a semi finalist for the award, 704 00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:10,400 and then he broke the single season Russian record by 705 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,280 a quarterback. Like, I don't know what else he has 706 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,639 to do, Ben, Like he's strong for almost what twenty 707 00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:18,119 twenty six hundred yards, He's got fourteen touchdowns in the year, 708 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,320 only four in exceptions, and then he's run for another eleven. Look, 709 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,360 I just I feel like they can see to disrespect 710 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,480 BYU at every national level. Like Bear Bakchomeer should be 711 00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:28,079 on this list. Not saying he should win the award, 712 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,400 but he should be on this list. 713 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: Ben. 714 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 4: If BYU beats Texas Tech, guess who's out. Guess who's 715 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,400 out of the College Football Playoff? 716 00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 3: Who is it? It's gonna be Notre Dame. 717 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be Notre Dame. They're gonna keep Alabama. 718 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 4: They're gonna keep Alabama. Well that'll be interesting too if Alabama. 719 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,679 So if bo he wins okay, and Alabama loses the 720 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,880 SEC championship, that will be an interesting study. Does Alabama 721 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:02,159 get bounced or does Notre Dame get bounced. Oh goodness, 722 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,159 gracious meal my crazy Times. 723 00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:07,639 Speaker 3: Crazy Times guys, that's our show. 724 00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 4: We're sticking to a download the podcast, I Tunes, Sprinker, 725 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,960 Google Play Music, I Heard Radio, Spotify give us a rating, 726 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,199 gives review support all of our sponsors. 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Las Kalanie, would 735 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,719 you knows Hey Quittle. 736 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,559 Speaker 3: Said, I gotta come in. 737 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:40,679 Speaker 4: He said the VPI products VPP serves VPY discounts, and 738 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,039 I need that. I need that on my life. You 739 00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:44,639 should be able to get you should be able to 740 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,719 be pricing. If you need to go get a quote 741 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,440 somewhere else, then get a quote somewhere else, and then 742 00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:51,880 go into one of our sponsors and let them know 743 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:55,079 I sense you and we appreciate all you Cougar fans 744 00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,920 in Cougar Country. It's been a great day and a 745 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,400 great show, by the way, a fantastic show, Ronald the 746 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,320 three Man. We've any final thoughts before we let Cougar 747 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,079 Nation go for the evening and they get to watch 748 00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:06,519 this BAU men's basketball team. 749 00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:06,679 Speaker 6: No. 750 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 7: Jared Bledsoe said it earlier, guys, I just want to 751 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,280 pitch the road home. Look, I've told my story about 752 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,519 how my family, you know, the Bitcher storehouse service helped me. 753 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: It can help someone else. It doesn't have to be 754 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,280 a lot. 755 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,119 Speaker 7: So this holiday season, please blankets, you know, hats, gloves, anything, toothpaste, 756 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:22,679 body washed. 757 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,119 Speaker 1: Look, and the simple things really help people in life, 758 00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:28,079 So please donate. If it's gotten me to this point. 759 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 7: It takes a village, it really does, and the village 760 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,239 has provided that opportunity for me. It could provide the 761 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,920 opportunity for someone else. You never know how much good 762 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,199 you do. I go back to that LDS video. You 763 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,199 never know what you're doing to someone, and it always 764 00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:42,760 goes it doesn't go unnoticed, and the Lord honors all efforts. 765 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: So I just want to pitch that one more time. 766 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 3: Love that man. 767 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,159 Speaker 4: I appreciate you being open, honest and fourth right about it. 768 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,480 It makes an impact, as we've heard from Ronald as 769 00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:56,880 well as Jared Bledshell, two of our family members here 770 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,960 at ESPN the fans. 771 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,679 Speaker 3: So two is the season to be given. 772 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 4: Because we've been good us we given much, we too 773 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,280 must give and so lift where you stand and support 774 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,679 those in our community today. Guys, have a great night, 775 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,400 have a safe night. Hopefully b y U basketball gets 776 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,360 a victory, gets a dub, a convincing one, and no 777 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,519 one is injured. Dawson Baker sustained an ACL injury in 778 00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:25,440 that in that second to last game of that Orlando series, 779 00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:28,679 and so man, it's tough. Man hates seeing that. Hopefully 780 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,239 we stay healthy along that guard line. Guys, we love you, 781 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,239 we appreciate you. Can't do the show without you. Shout 782 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,880 out to Ken Harris U and other fans that have 783 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,079 stopped by to drop off all of their their hygiene items, 784 00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:45,760 their food items, and obviously food items for the road 785 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,519 home from all of us here at ESPN the fan. 786 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 3: We love you and appreciate you. 787 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,039 Speaker 4: Eve Ben lifting to Cougar listening to Cougar Sports one 788 00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:53,239 of three nine ninety eight point three, ESPN The Fan