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b y u a d. We got val hail on
the line, vow how.
Speaker 3: You living brother?
Speaker 5: Good Ben?
Speaker 4: How are you doing doing awesome? All this well in
Cougar Country, my friend? It seems like everything is trending
in the right direction.
Speaker 6: That's absolutely right.
Speaker 5: It's it's nice to get all this behind us so
we can focus on a game coming up on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, man, I know it's answered much about it.
Speaker 4: Man, it feels good to to.
Speaker 3: Have our guy.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: You've been a part of these negotiations. You've been a
part of these situations before. What type of whirlwind do
you think, Brian Santiago, Shane Reevees, Keith Vorkink, Elder Gilbert
we're in when when they knew that Penn State was
swinging big for their guy, Kalani Satake.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's really I think this is unlike
anything b Way You've ever experienced before, and it's just
kind of.
Speaker 6: Fascinating to watch.
Speaker 5: It's so foreign what I experienced even twenty years ago.
I remember when Gary Croton came in, he brought an
agent with him, who incidentally was Tom Holmo's agent when
he was a cal Also and with Leavell, there was
no agent. You know, Lavell, had you just sit down,
come in the office.
Speaker 6: You'd work out a deal.
Speaker 5: And so when agents get involved, it makes it a
much more interesting and I would even say difficult dynamic
from the university standpoint. But the fact that all of
these people got involved and they did something unprecedented in
BYU history and coming up with a compensation package that
is one of the best in the country from what
I've heard. I don't know what it is exactly, it's
just it's amazing to see BYU get to this point.
I mean, this is the same university. You know, we
Leavell paid Doug Scoville nineteen thousand a year to come
and coach at BYU. When you know, when Doug came
back in the late seventies and when I was athletic director,
Lavelle's salary at BYU was not even two hundred thousand
dollars when I came in. And so now we've got
a coach who's one of the top paid coaches in Americas.
It shows you how far things have changed and how
far we've come.
Speaker 6: And good for Kilani for flexing.
Speaker 5: And getting this type of a deal. And I'm sure
it wasn't just for him as has been reported. You know,
I knew Kilane by doing this would be trying to
take care of his assistants and trying to get more
resources for the program. It sounded like he was successful
in getting all of that good for him.
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.
Speaker 4: Look, I mean what needs to happen in order to
get certain things like this approved. We know you know
that that BYU's athletic department is self sustaining. You know,
it's revenue comes from ticket sales, corporate sponsorships, subsidies from donors,
TV money, uh, you know, merchandising, licensing.
Speaker 3: Right, Like, there's there's a number of funnels.
Speaker 4: That booy up the athletic department and uh, you know,
and then they utilize those funds to pay their W
two employees, their FTEs, their coaches.
Speaker 3: Et cetera.
Speaker 4: It's becoming a little bit more interesting now with revenue
sharing et cetera. There, But like, how how involved do
the Barder trustees get in these situations where uh, it
seems like, you know a lot of the funds aren't
necessarily coming from the institution itself, like meaning upper campus
as a university, but like it does impact maybe public perception.
I guess we don't know how it operates from a
P and L standpoint, from from a monetary standpoint, necessarily.
Speaker 3: We don't have access to that.
Speaker 4: Could you give us a little bit of enlightenment about
how involved the border of Trustees is in to approve
such things?
Speaker 5: Well, in this particular case, I'm guessing they were very
involved because as I mentioned, this is unprecedented and even
though it's not necessarily coming from tiding funds in the church,
it's the perception issue, you know. I'm sure the conversation
is do we really want to be paying our coach
that much money? You know, when people are thinking that,
you know, we might be using the widows might to
do this, which they aren't, but people still think they
I'm sure they had the conversation and it shows the
respect that they have for Kilane that they were willing
to go this far and do this much. And you know,
it would have been catastrophic for Kilanie to leave right now.
I mean, you think about recruiting, recruit signing is today
what would have happened if he would have announced Monday
or Tuesday that he's going to Penn State. Any of
these recruits would have said, oh well, let's see maybe
not what if you took all his staff with him.
You know, BYU football would have been starting from scratch
again pretty much.
Speaker 6: You know, maybe Jay Hill.
Speaker 5: Stays and becomes the head coach, and you know, things
go on, but the disruption would have been phenomenal. And
I think they realized that. And Klane, quite frankly, has
had great success in the last two or three years
and he represents everything that the board of trustees wants
in a coach. I mean, he's doing it the right
way at BYU. So you know, hats off to them
for saying, let's go, let's do this, and for the
donors who were willing to step up and make it happen.
And that's what I understand is really driving a lot
of this. And quite frankly, you know, we get a
lot more money by being in the Big twelve than
we used to. But the way I see it, the
big difference between BYU right now and even three years
ago is the way the donors have stepped up. I mean,
it's just remarkable to see how they've come forward. Back
back when I was athletic director, We had a few
donors and they gave some money, but it was nothing
like happens now with the Silicon Slopes coming into the
valley and these other businesses primarily you know, started by
LDS people. They've just been phenomenal at supporting the program.
It's it's remarkable.
Speaker 4: Well, it's truly a new era of BYU athletics, one
that has tremendous momentum right now, tremendous investment and.
Speaker 3: You just love you love to see it.
Speaker 4: If you're a BYU fed, you love to see the
momentum right now. And look, I mean, lots of things
have changed since you've been the ad. Like you even
commented on social media that Johnny Harlen playing the national anthemon.
Speaker 3: Is electric guitar.
Speaker 4: No way the Cougar fan would have allowed that, you know,
twenty five years ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it was funny because every time somebody
sang the national anthem even a little bit unique, I
would get I literally would get letters and emails and
oftentimes copied to the president of the church and the
president of the university complaining about and you know what,
in fairness, a lot of these people were like World
War two veterans, yes, and they.
Speaker 4: Were typically it's going to be the fats, right, yeah,
in godless American God bless those that are serving in
the military, and were grateful for them, no doubt.
Speaker 5: Yeah. But it was just funny, you know, because if
we had allowed something like that to happen back then, man,
all heck would break. Was kind of like when Tom Holmo,
you know, when the Cougarrettes.
Speaker 6: Played a song.
Speaker 5: It was edited, but apparently it was a song that
was had some pretty risque lyrics that were edited out
that people still wrote and complained and Tom had to
step up and say, hey, that's my bad.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: We'll you know, we'll take care of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: That's kind of the way it was all the time.
And what was funny is I right after he played
that thing, I turned to my son when the cougar
Rats were out dancing, and they do an amazing job,
I said, when Ernest Wilkinson was president of the university,
if they had done that routine, they had all been
expelled from school. You know, that's how far we've come.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Back then, it was just a different era. I mean,
it was very strict and rigid and there's no way
they would allow that kind of dancing out on the
floor or out on the field. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, hopefully it's all good growth.
Speaker 4: Obviously, we want to abide by all the laws and
regulations and stay true, you know, you know, and keep
your hand to the rod, obviously, but I do think
we've made some really good progress in that regard. Well,
there's a lot of them, agree, there are a lot
of them meant to me in the athletletics world right now,
and BYU basketball, BYU football highly ranked, and when you
look at the overall momentum, like, what's the cap what's
the ceiling for BYU athletics right now, especially for its flagship.
Speaker 5: Programs, Well, you know, gosh, after considering what's been accomplished
and where we're headed and the recruiting classes we're having,
I would say the cap is that we typically ought
to have programs that are competing for a national championship.
We may not always, you know, be right at the top,
but top ten programs in the various programs at sports
football and basketball that we have, and maybe even a
few others we're already there, and some like our cross
country teams and a few others here and there. But
you know, you think that with the resources we have,
if we can continue to recruit like we have, that
should be kind of just the goal. You know, we're
going to compete for a Big twelve championship and both
sports as well as you know, be a top ten
ranked team. That doesn't seem out of the realm of
possibility given what we've accomplished lately.
Speaker 3: Val Hell Ladies and Gentlemen.
Speaker 4: Former b YU A D talking some BYU Athletics here
on your Utah ESPN Radio network. You're looking at how
BUYU is getting stiff armed in the College Football Playoff
Committee's eyes.
Speaker 3: How do you evaluate that?
Speaker 4: I get asked all the time, like why is it
that they don't want BYU and the Big Boys Club?
Is it the product on the field. It's hard to
argue their resume right now, but they're doing it. They're
just leaving the entirely, They're just keeping them fixated at eleven?
Is it religious bigotry?
Speaker 3: Is is it?
Speaker 4: You know, maybe institutional bigotry and discrimination?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 3: You know, maybe last year I brought this up.
Speaker 4: Last year the colleg Football Playoff Committee did invite, did
bring in Boise State in SMU, and they really weren't
that competit, so they want to bring in and Alabama
was was tossed to the side. And Alabama's a perennial
over the last twenty plus years, one of the best
teams in college football, obviously led by a legendary coach.
Speaker 3: What do you make of it?
Speaker 6: Val Well?
Speaker 5: By you has always been shunned, you know, rightly or wrongly?
You know, clear back in ninety six, I remember going
with Levell in New York City. We were there for
an event and they invited us to go to the
announcement party that I can't remember CBS or somewhere so
level and I go there and and course they had
they really had no intention of inviting BYU. That's what
was so embarrassing that we knew that they weren't going
to include BYU, even though b way you deserved to
be included. And as soon as they announced it that
BYU wasn't there, all of the coaches just immediately vacated
the room, left Levell just standing there. It was really
I felt so bad for Lavell because it was really
a tremendous show of disrespect for him. They shouldn't they
knew that Bayu wasn't going to be invited there. There's
no way they were going to do that. And it
was because they didn't want to share the money. I mean,
let's be honest, this is a financial decision.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
Speaker 5: So you know, leavell we just kind of had to
wander out, find a taxi and find our way back home.
You know, they had brought a car over to pick
us up, but they weren't going to give us a
car going back, you know. And again in two thousand
and one, you know, we're undefeated and we're getting ready
to go. I can't remember what stage it was, but
they end up basically telling us, no, we're not in
the you're not included, and lo and behold, we go
out and lose it. It was a big distraction for
us back then.
Speaker 4: I want to pivot back to some of our original
conversation here, Val I was pulling up US Department of
Education numbers.
Speaker 3: I was trying to compare and contrast.
Speaker 4: What BY has how BYU financially has changed from an
athletic Department standpoint since about two thousand and five, if
I'm not mistaken, I was looking at those numbers and
I don't know if they're accurate, but two thousand and five,
the athletic department revenue generated about twenty million dollars.
Speaker 3: Does that sound accurate?
Speaker 5: That's yes, that's what it was when I left in
two thousand and four.
Speaker 3: Okay, right in twenty million, twenty million dollars.
Speaker 4: The most recent numbers that we have in twenty twenty
three is one hundred and thirty million dollars. Give us
some perspective here, like what's going on? What happened over
that that expansive time.
Speaker 5: Well, like I say, I think, I think fundraising has
taken off and done significant things. I think obviously in
the Big twelve now it's the rev new share is
significantly more. I think with just TV revenue, even when
we went independent, that became a lot more because we
weren't sharing it with all of the other mount West
conference people. So I think it's a combination of everything.
But I really think the fundraising aspect has been one
of the biggest things. You know, that does accounted for
that increase in revenue, and now with the Big twelve
revenue that significant as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's a lot happening here. Well, the
thing is the twenty twenty three they didn't they didn't
get a share of the TV money at that time.
That would have been the former deal that I think
it was during independence, which would have been I don't know,
four or five million, right which you know it's a sum,
but you know, these big, these Power four conferences, they're
going to get, you know, twenty thirty forty million dollars
in TV distribute.
Speaker 3: So we're at one thirty right now.
Speaker 4: Once you become a full member, you're looking at one
hundred and fifty hundred sixty hundred seventy one hundred and
eighty million dollars. That's a that's that's not just a
small business anymore. That's a that's a pretty that's a
that's a growing business.
Speaker 3: That's a robust set of personnel.
Speaker 4: I don't know how many employees were there when you
were in two thousand and five, howenty in two thousand
and four, two thousand five, how many ployees.
Speaker 5: I would say we had maybe about one hundred. I
would bet there's more than twice, maybe almost three times
as many now as there were. I mean, you think
about it. Levell when he started coaching at BYU in
nineteen seventy two, there were six football coaches, including Leavell
Utah and Utah State had eight on their staff at
the time. And now you know, they also had a
couple of trainers, or probably three trainers, Rod Kimball, Marv Roberson,
you know, Oli Julkinen and some of those guys. Now
they've got more basketball assistant coaches. And they had football
coaches back then. And you know, when the basketball team played,
this kind of funny because you know, all these guys
come out on the floor and I'm thinking, Man, when
I was athletic director, you had one head coach, three assistants.
I think he had a director of basketball operations then
and maybe one other person. But now I don't know,
I don't even know how many are on that staff.
Same thing with football, they've got, you know, all kinds
of people. They even got general managers. Now they got
a general manager for the program.
Speaker 6: So the size of.
Speaker 5: The staff has just grown significantly over the last few years.
And I guess that's I guess they You know, when
you joined a big conference like the Big twelve, you
kind of have to do that keep up I guess
with everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy times, no doubt about it. Val Always love
chaddick with you. Always learned something from you. I know
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Speaker 3: What do you do? How you do it?
Speaker 4: I know you've You're still staying busy, got projects.
Speaker 3: You also wrote a book for recently.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a year ago I wrote a book called Out
of the Blue and Insiders look at the Rise of
BAU Athletics. That was a fun experience. I'm just kind
of starting the process of recording it and having it
as an audible book. So I still have some printed
copies that did quite well, and then I'm going to
put it out on audio format for those it'd probably
be I don't know if I'll get it done before
the end of the year, but right after that I
hope to have it out. I'm surprised how many people
don't really read books anymore. They listen to them, so
I thought that would be fun to get out so
people could It's just my memoirs my time in the
athletic program, and not basically during the Lavelle Edwards years
and the croaking years. You know what happened?
Speaker 3: Love that, man, It's a great book.
Speaker 4: I've read through it and I invite everyone to download it,
especially once the audible version is ready to go. You
got a great voice for it as well. Val, you
got sultry tones. Man, I'll listen to that on audible
any day of the week.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, well Ben, it's always fun to chat
with you. Thanks for taking time to golf.
Speaker 3: All right, appreciate you. Val. Hell ladies and gentlemen.
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early signing Day and Klane's extension. But how about them
Coog's on the basketball court. What do you got for us?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll be at the game tonight been just what
a little less than an hour and a half to
tip off, Number nine BYU. That's where they were ranked
in the poll coming off the tournament win. As we know,
obviously they taking down dating a good basketball team.
Speaker 1: Look, and let's just go back a little bit.
Speaker 7: Remember what I told everybody the Miami one was gonna
be a good win, good win?
Speaker 1: What did they do?
Speaker 5: Ben?
Speaker 7: They went on the road be the old Mits team
that BAU struggled with last year. That's a good coach,
Ole Miss and that program is a good program. And
they also be Georgetown, so that's a good win for BAU.
Gonna be a quad too, for sure, could move up
to a quad one BYU. Right now the coaches poll
number ten, but the ap pole nine, so almost the same,
but not there just one spot down in the coaches pole,
per Kim Pomp, the number twelfth in the net the thirteenth.
Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 7: Kevin Young in his second year been a I don't
know how fast any coaches gotten the fifty wins, but
with a win tonight, that'd be his thirty third win
as a college coach. He is going to get the
fifty wins this season. There's eighteen more wins. I think
in this season for Kevin Young, Richie Saunders, the top
score Ben averaging over twenty points per game, the top king.
Speaker 1: Nothing against AJ.
Speaker 7: Everybody said, oh, all as will be and him rightfully so.
But the top king, you're seeing it freed up and Ben.
I want to go back to the game against Dayton,
and this is where I really get like nerdy, where
I watch film when the game was tied seven sixty
seven sixty seven. AJ goes three plays in a row
where he makes the right read. Remember Yukon, he was forcingate,
Remember Villanova at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1: Fortunate.
Speaker 7: He passes the ball to rob, They get the ball
to Richie. Richie hits a and one three, he gets
to double. Again, passes after row Row hits a big
time three, again, passes the ball out. They rotated, he
gets the ball back and then he's able to get
downhill and score. That's the development of AJ and why
Kevin Young says aj' is so smart because AJ is
able to do that. And you have to watch tape
really to understand. And for those that maybe not have
played the game, just go back and watch AJ's decision
making he's improved already as a passer, and he doesn't
force anything. Maybe that's what he was doing early, but
he doesn't need to do that. And that's what I
love of how coachable he is. You've said it, I've
said it. Kevin Young can go up to any of
his players and especially AJ and say hey, don't do
this or do this, and he doesn't diffinitely. And he's
grabbing about six and a half boards per games, so
he's getting on the boards.
Speaker 1: And then Rob right Ben averaging about five and a
half assists.
Speaker 7: Look, when you got guys that are attacking the glass
and moving the ball, well you're gonna be able to
defeat the foe. And look they play, you know, cal
Baptist Tonight University. They're seven to one, but look they're
one hundred and thirtieth in Kimpalm. They're not ranked sixty
one in the net. So BYU is heavily favored in
this game.
Speaker 1: They should win it.
Speaker 7: There on a three game winning streak right now, four
and one, and neutral site games, there'll be five to
one after today, they'll get their seventh win. Not worried
about it at all, but look, you gotta finish off
in non conference play strong.
Speaker 1: You gotta win this game. You know why, Ben, you
got two big time games.
Speaker 7: You go back to the East Coast before you play
in the Jimmy, what is the invitation of the Classic
against Clemson at six thirty? What is the Eastern time
over there on the East Coast. Clemson's a good team.
That's another opportunity to get a Quad one game. So
now I don't want to say these lobs, but these
opportunities where you can have your debt play. We talked
with JT early in the week Alexi Coastitch, that guy
is gonna have to gain some confidence. Well, this is
the game for him to get off and get a
lot of minutes in this game. This is a game
for the starters, maybe not to play as much. We'll
see what Kevin Young does. But the three point percentage been,
it's gone up. They're shooting thirty seven percent now from
the field. That's better than when they were shooting thirty
two to thirty three. That wouldn't get it done, but
thirty seven can get it done. They're shooting about forty
two percent from the free from what is it from
their field goal defense? Excuse me, they're holding teams to
about forty two percent to the field. They're shooting forty
nine percent excuse me, from the field, and they're a
plus fifteen score on margin right now. The defense is
really picked up as they're holding to opponents to sixty
nine points per game. That's been the biggest thing is
how would they be able to play on the perimeter beIN?
And they've been able to lock in, so I think
this is another victory tonight. I think they'll limit cal
Baptists off the boards. They do a good job at
rebounding the ball, so second chance points. And they're shooting
been seventy six percent from the free throw line as
a team. Last year that was a struggle as a
whole until late in the season. They were missing too
many free throws. They still clink some free throws, but
better to start off the season. I'm pretty sure they'll
get strong down the stretch. But I like everything right
now about this BILLIU basketball team. But look a lot
of things they can correct. You don't want to be
playing your best basketball. Ormind fans been what you reminded
of them of last year? When do you want to
play your best basketball? Into February beginning of March. That
eight to nine game winning streak that they went on
was fantastic, and this year I think they have an
opportunity to go on that win streak again. Be Houston
in the regular season, compete for the Big Twelve title.
I think you'll have at the end of the day
BYU in Houston competing for the Big Twelve championship in basketball.
And how glorious is that for BOU Athletics been You
can say in the calendar year that your football program
and your basketball program has an opportunity to be able
to compete and bring home a title. And if that
were to happen. Look, I don't know, Ben, you've been
around longer doing this to me, But a BAU football
brings home a Big Twelve title, and then BOU basketball
brings home a Big Twelve title. Bo he gets to
the College football playoffs, the BAU basketball gets a top
two seed.
Speaker 1: That might be the.
Speaker 7: Greatest year in BYU athletics, even without winning a national
championship in football or basketball. I haven't seen the season
like that since I've covered I don't know if you
can go pinpoint the last time that both programs did it.
The moment right now for athletics is tremendous, especially now
that Kilanie has this new deal, and I look forward
now to being able to see basketball and football compete
at the highest level every single year, not only for
a conference championship, but now for a national championship.
Speaker 4: Has well been great breakdown from Ronald the three Man.
Let's go a couple last things before we let you go.
Speaker 3: Cougar Nation.
Speaker 4: Bryce Harper showed up to practice today. That's right, Bryce Harper,
the two time MVP of the Major League Baseball League. Now,
Bryce has not always been a friend to Brigham. He
has said on even college game day things that you
Cougar fans may deplore. He has not been a fan,
but he's showing up. Look, this is what Kilanie does.
He brings people that may hate Brigham, may not understand Brigham,
may not want to have anything to do with Brigham,
and he brings him into the fans says, look, you
love Brigham, now, don't you Jedi mind tricks. He kills
him with love, loves and learns them right. And now
Bryce Harper is hanging out at BYU.
Speaker 3: Love it great news.
Speaker 4: By you signed a phenomenal class earlier today, Ryder lines
the headliner Bob Malatala. We got so many four stars
in this group. It was a tremendous day. A top
twenty class who signed with BYU Football. It doesn't get
better than that. Kalani signed a I believe a ten
year deal. Some people think it's you know, it could
be a five yeard. I think it is ten year deal.
And it's nine million dollars per nine million per year,
nine to nine nine and a half ten to fifteen
million per year in nil allocated to the UH, the
the players, and then on top of that, you're gonna
have some rev share money coming from the athletic department
via that TV contract at BYU has with the big
twelve UH.
Speaker 3: It's a glorious day to be a cougar.
Speaker 4: There's some weeping and wailing and ashing teeth out there, though,
Why because by us number eleven in the country rather
than in the top ten in the country.
Speaker 3: Who sits ahead of them? Notre Dame?
Speaker 4: What has Notre Dame done that BYU hasn't. This is
one of the worst cases of brand bias I think
we have ever seen. And furthermore, there's never been a
one loss power for power five team in the ap
Pole era that has one loss at the regular at
the end of the regular season, that is ranked eleventh
or worse, they're always in the top ten. So BYU
should also be in the top ten. But when you
compare contrast BYU's resume and Notre Dames, and remember, britt,
your Mark and many others are taking the firing irish
to task and the committee rather to task because that's
the low hanging fruit here. Okay, it just is, it's
the right fruit to pick two. By the way, BYU's
record is eleven to one. Notre Dame is ten to
two wins versus college football playoff ranked BYU's got two.
Notre Dame's got one wins versus ball eligible teams. BYU
has six. Notre Dame has four. BA strength. The record
is six. Notre Dame is thirteenth BYU Strength, the schedule
is thirty fifth. Notre Dame's is forty second. Average winning
margin scoring margin there eleven and a half points for BYU,
twenty four and a half for Notre Dame. Notre Dame
has yeah rolled a few teams. There's no doubt in
its reason that November bias is definitely booing them up
that November October late momentum sp plus ranking BYU's thirteenth.
Speaker 3: This is a predictive efficiency metric, and.
Speaker 4: Notre Dame's number five that game control and margin of
victory helps them in that regard sp plus top forty
wins though Boways got four, Notre Dame's only got two.
The beaten opponent win loss record BYU sixty two and
fifty two their opponents and Notre Dame's opponents have a
losing record fifty four and sixty five. Best wins Boa
He's got Utah and U of A, and then Notre
Dame has USC and Pitt. Worst losses by has one.
It's Texas Tech worse losses for Notre Dame Miami and
Texas A and M the only.
Speaker 3: Losses they have.
Speaker 4: That's uh, that's how I think for the BYU fans
and guys like Dave portno Dave Portnoy, who has also
become a big big BYU fans stool Presidente. He's a
Kilani fan, He's a BYU fan, he's a bear Bachmeyer fan.
He's he's becoming maybe the biggest fan on social media.
At least he's got a hashtag provo Dave wherever he goes. Anyway,
he's making it a case for BYU. Everyone's attacking the
fighting Irish. Why are they attacking the fighting Irish? Obviously
because of their resume, But the other component of all
is Joey McGuire also h put Notre Dame over his
leg and gave them a little spanking two calling them
out recently in his press conference. Everyone's trying to pick
fights with Notre Dame and I love it. I'm here
for why Because they're independent. They're independent, and they're affiliated
with the ACC. And the ACC is the weakest powerfour
conference in the country, so you know what I mean, Like,
they got their independence right, they have their branding, their
equity that they've built up for a long time.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: But they're still correlated, they're assigned, they're aligned with the ACEC,
the weakest powerfur conference.
Speaker 7: Then I still have something out to sound off on.
I know we're talking about that. Did you hear the
finalist for the Shawn Alexander Ward?
Speaker 1: Did you see that?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Freshman of the Year award.
Speaker 7: On it like the disrespect I mean, time Bag twelve
Freshman of the week Offensive Player of the Week was
the Manding Award twice. I'm pretty sure it might have
been three times, was a semi finalist for the award,
and then he broke the single season Russian record by
a quarterback. Like, I don't know what else he has
to do, Ben, Like he's strong for almost what twenty
twenty six hundred yards, He's got fourteen touchdowns in the year,
only four in exceptions, and then he's run for another eleven. Look,
I just I feel like they can see to disrespect
BYU at every national level. Like Bear Bakchomeer should be
on this list. Not saying he should win the award,
but he should be on this list.
Speaker 1: Ben.
Speaker 4: If BYU beats Texas Tech, guess who's out. Guess who's
out of the College Football Playoff?
Speaker 3: Who is it? It's gonna be Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be Notre Dame. They're gonna keep Alabama.
Speaker 4: They're gonna keep Alabama. Well that'll be interesting too if Alabama.
So if bo he wins okay, and Alabama loses the
SEC championship, that will be an interesting study. Does Alabama
get bounced or does Notre Dame get bounced. Oh goodness,
gracious meal my crazy Times.
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in Cougar Country. It's been a great day and a
great show, by the way, a fantastic show, Ronald the
three Man. We've any final thoughts before we let Cougar
Nation go for the evening and they get to watch
this BAU men's basketball team.
Speaker 6: No.
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pitch the road home. Look, I've told my story about
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So please donate. If it's gotten me to this point.
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goes it doesn't go unnoticed, and the Lord honors all efforts.
Speaker 1: So I just want to pitch that one more time.
Speaker 3: Love that man.
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