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<v Speaker 1>Baby, You're my game statue. It takes a little tangle.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't mess with me. Mess with me baby a gangstat.

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<v Speaker 2>Ouch, Baby, you're a game stat.

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<v Speaker 3>For good warning. This podcast is designed to take you

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<v Speaker 3>outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Listening Discretion is a vibe What the fellas?

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<v Speaker 1>This ain't my first time at the rodeo.

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<v Speaker 3>Co signing clause co signed the clause down sign a

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<v Speaker 3>clause lane, the looks and all his range, there's non

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<v Speaker 3>all the rain, sor ry children singing, and all is

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<v Speaker 3>Mary and by So talking and saying the primas, both

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<v Speaker 3>saying those times gone. Welcome to the Christmas Special episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to do something exciting for all the listeners,

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<v Speaker 3>and here we are. Merry Christmas everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas Day and I got a little present for you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time to reopen a case, a very specific case.

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<v Speaker 3>In my previous solo investigation of this case, I presented

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<v Speaker 3>to you a theory, my thesis, if you will, and

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<v Speaker 3>my research regarding a little girl known as Jambonet Ramsey. Today,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to revisit this topic, but I also want

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<v Speaker 3>to thank all the dedicated listeners of my show as

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<v Speaker 3>the Little Miss Christmas Ritual episode was ranked the number

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<v Speaker 3>one most listened to episode of Cosmic Peach podcast for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three. The reason this is so absolutely important

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<v Speaker 3>to me is because out of all the episodes, all

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<v Speaker 3>the guest appearances, and all the swapcasts, the most listened

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<v Speaker 3>to episode is a solo episode with only myself and

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<v Speaker 3>the microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>That is how I.

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<v Speaker 3>Started this podcast, and that is what I'm most fucking

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<v Speaker 3>proud of. Yes, it is tremendously exhausting putting the research

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<v Speaker 3>together for these types of episodes, but it is even

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<v Speaker 3>more tremendously worth it when I see such a positive response.

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<v Speaker 3>So today is a thank you for supporting my research

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<v Speaker 3>and this show. I will reopen this Christmas case and

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<v Speaker 3>bring you the cosmic fire once again as we recap

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<v Speaker 3>and discover the dark occult nature of this murder.

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<v Speaker 1>So let us begin.

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<v Speaker 3>This refresh is not going to be exactly like the

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<v Speaker 3>last installment, because we covered a fuck ton of ground

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<v Speaker 3>in the first one and there's no need beating a

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<v Speaker 3>dead horse. I'm not going to argue about whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not Juambinet Ramsey is a real person or not, so

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<v Speaker 3>on so forth, because I believe I've done enough pontificating

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<v Speaker 3>in the first episode. I do want to recap some

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<v Speaker 3>of the basic info, but I also want to bring

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<v Speaker 3>to light new information. But here's how we're gonna start it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's take a journey back in time. It's Boulder, Colorado,

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<v Speaker 3>December the twenty fifth, nineteen ninety six, Jambonet Ramsey. As

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<v Speaker 3>I stated previously, in death, she looked more like the

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<v Speaker 3>six year old child she was, more than she ever

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<v Speaker 3>had in life. Her lifeless body was found laying on

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<v Speaker 3>the basement floor, wrapped in a blanket. A strip of

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<v Speaker 3>duct tape covered her mouth. Her right wrist raised above

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<v Speaker 3>her head, was loosely bound with a length of cord.

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<v Speaker 3>The same type of cord was wrapped around her neck

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<v Speaker 3>with a broken paintbrush handle taken from the mother's art

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<v Speaker 3>supplies and fashioned into a makeshift garrout. Two investigators her

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<v Speaker 3>bindings looked staged. Jean Benet was dressed in a sweatshirt

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<v Speaker 3>that covered a long sleeved undershirt. White pajama bottoms covered

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<v Speaker 3>her white panties, which an autopsy report later revealed were

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<v Speaker 3>stained with blood. Inspection with a black light indicated that

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<v Speaker 3>there was semen on both of Jambonnet's thighs, but the

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<v Speaker 3>medical examiner would make no mention of this.

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<v Speaker 1>In his official report.

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<v Speaker 3>To some investigators, it looked as though she had been

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<v Speaker 3>redressed after her death. Jean Benet had been sexually abused,

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<v Speaker 3>severely beaten about the head, causing a massive skull fracture,

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<v Speaker 3>and then strangled to death. Rigor mortis had fully set in,

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<v Speaker 3>and police on the scene reported the smell of decomposition.

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<v Speaker 3>She had undigested food in her stomach and small intestined

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<v Speaker 3>identified as pieces of pineapple. On the palm of her

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<v Speaker 3>left hand was drawn a small red heart. Around her

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<v Speaker 3>neck was a chain bearing a crucifix. On her wrist

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<v Speaker 3>was a bracelet engraved on one side was her name,

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<v Speaker 3>John Beney Ramsey, and on the other the perrobable date

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<v Speaker 3>of her death, December the twenty fifth, nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 3>Now here we go. We're recapping the previous evening before

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<v Speaker 3>the body is discovered. John Benet had attended a party

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<v Speaker 3>at the home of family friends with her parents, John

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<v Speaker 3>and Patsy, and her brother Burke the Ramsey family. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>the timeline. Now, returned home from this Christmas party at

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<v Speaker 3>the family friends at approximately nine thirty p m, by

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<v Speaker 3>which time John Beney had fallen asleep. She was carried

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<v Speaker 3>inside and put to bed, allegedly lasting alive around ten PM.

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<v Speaker 3>Patsy Ramsey claims that she woke up the next morning

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<v Speaker 3>sometime after five am and headed down the back stairs,

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<v Speaker 3>which were generally only used by those who were familiar

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<v Speaker 3>with the house, where she found this ransom note that

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<v Speaker 3>she read over and then entered John Binney's room to

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<v Speaker 3>find that she was missing. She places a frantic nine

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<v Speaker 3>to one one call at five point fifty two a m.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was later realized that the little brother Burke

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<v Speaker 3>Ramsey's voice could be heard on the recording of that call,

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<v Speaker 3>although John and Patsy steadfastly maintained that Burke was not

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<v Speaker 3>yet up from bed when the call was placed. That

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<v Speaker 3>is the version of events that Patsy Ramsey has long

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<v Speaker 3>held onto by her official account. However, as we discussed

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<v Speaker 3>in the first installment of Little Miss Christmas Ritual, it

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<v Speaker 3>is steaming horseshit and we all know it's but let's

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<v Speaker 3>continue on. Boulder police arrive at the Ramsey home seven

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<v Speaker 3>minutes after the call. Patsy's hysterical John is pacing around.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course this was the second time in just

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<v Speaker 3>three days that a nine to one to one call

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<v Speaker 3>had been placed from the Ramsey home. The first was

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<v Speaker 3>on the night of December the twenty third, during a

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<v Speaker 3>party attended by an estimated one hundred guests to the

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<v Speaker 3>Ramsey's home drawn from the elite of Boulder Society. And

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<v Speaker 3>of course the guest list for that party has never

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<v Speaker 3>been made public, nor has the reason for the first

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<v Speaker 3>nine to one one call, But I will let you

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<v Speaker 3>use your imagination. So the first officers to arrive at

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<v Speaker 3>the Ramsey's home were presented with the ransom note, which

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<v Speaker 3>was two in an half handwritten pages of bizarre ass

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<v Speaker 3>ramblings that were with hell from the press and the

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<v Speaker 3>public for nine months, and happened to be written in

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<v Speaker 3>Passey's hand. But we will get to that. The notes

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<v Speaker 3>author demanded a ransom of exactly one hundred and eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars in cash, which happened to be the exact

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<v Speaker 3>amount of the Christmas bonus that John had just received. Coincidence,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure. They claimed that they represented a small foreign faction,

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<v Speaker 3>and they warned that if their demands were not met,

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<v Speaker 3>jam Benet would be decapitated. Ooh, the suspense is killing me.

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<v Speaker 3>The Ramseys were also instructed to expect a telephone call

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<v Speaker 3>that very morning between eight and ten am, but that call,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, never came. Something I did not do last

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<v Speaker 3>time was read you the ransom note, which I really

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<v Speaker 3>should have done, because it puts it into perspective. Not

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<v Speaker 3>only does it match writing samples of Patsy's hand, it's

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<v Speaker 3>written in the tone and context of the author not

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<v Speaker 3>only being a female.

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<v Speaker 1>But also a mother. I picked this clue.

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<v Speaker 3>Up from a private investigator who has studied the ransom

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<v Speaker 3>note at length, and it is astonishingly accurate in this analysis.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me now read you the ransom note and

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<v Speaker 3>you can decide for yourself if this is a male

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<v Speaker 3>or female, more specifically a mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Here goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Ramsey. Listen carefully. We are a group of individuals

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<v Speaker 3>that represent a small foreign faction. We respect your business,

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<v Speaker 3>but not the country that it serves. At this time,

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<v Speaker 3>we have your daughter in our possession. She is safe

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<v Speaker 3>and unharmed, and if you want to see her in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen nineties U seven, you must follow our instructions to

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<v Speaker 3>the letter. You will withdraw one hundred and eighteen thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars from your account. One hundred thousand will be one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred dollars bills and the remaining eighteen thousand and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>dollar bills.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure that you bring.

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<v Speaker 3>An adequate size attache to the bank. When you get home,

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<v Speaker 3>you will put the money in a brown paper bag.

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<v Speaker 3>I will call you between eight and ten am tomorrow

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<v Speaker 3>to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting,

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<v Speaker 3>so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor

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<v Speaker 3>you getting the money early, we might call you early

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<v Speaker 3>to arrange an earlier delivery of the money and hence

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<v Speaker 3>an earlier pickup of your daughter. Any deviation of my

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<v Speaker 3>instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>You will also be denied her remains for a proper burial.

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<v Speaker 3>The two gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly

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<v Speaker 3>like you, so I advise you not to provoke them.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking to anyone about your situation such as police, FBI, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>Will result in your daughter being beheaded. If we catch

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<v Speaker 3>you talking to a stray dog, she dies. If you

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<v Speaker 3>alert authorities, she dies. If the money is in any

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<v Speaker 3>way marked or tampered with, she dies, you will be

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<v Speaker 3>scanned for electronic devices and if any are found she dies.

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<v Speaker 3>You can try to deceive us, but be warned, we

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<v Speaker 3>are familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics. You stand

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<v Speaker 3>a ninety nine percent chance of killing your daughter if

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<v Speaker 3>you try to outsmart us. Follow our instructions and you

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<v Speaker 3>stand a one hundred percent chance of getting her back.

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<v Speaker 3>You and your family are under constant scrutiny as well

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<v Speaker 3>as the authorities. Don't try to grow a brain, John,

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<v Speaker 3>You are not the only fat cat around, so don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that killing will be difficult. Don't underestimate us, John,

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<v Speaker 3>use that good Southern common sense of yours.

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<v Speaker 1>It's up to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, John Victory SB t C. Let's take a look

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<v Speaker 3>back now at this incredibly long what I would compare

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<v Speaker 3>to as one of those text messages you get from

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<v Speaker 3>a crazy fucking ex girlfriend who is trying to plead.

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<v Speaker 1>Her case to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I know because I've seen these type of text messages.

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<v Speaker 3>They're the ones you get and you scroll through quickly

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<v Speaker 3>down to the bottom, and then you show your friends, like,

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<v Speaker 3>look what this crazy fucking bitch just sent me.

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<v Speaker 1>On my text message.

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<v Speaker 3>This reeks of being a female it's way too detailed,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very emotional, and no fucking man who is straight

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<v Speaker 3>in his orientation would write something like this, especially not

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<v Speaker 3>someone representing a small foreign faction. First off, they just

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<v Speaker 3>leisurely sat around and wrote this handwritten ransom note in

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<v Speaker 3>the living room of the Ramseys home right after they've

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<v Speaker 3>abducted the girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and so let's take a look.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Ramsey. Listen carefully. That reeks of a mother to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen carefully giving instructions.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's a child.

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<v Speaker 3>You must follow our instructions to the letter. You must

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<v Speaker 3>follow our instructions. Okay, another example of a mother talking

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<v Speaker 3>to a child. Here's another one that caught me. Make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that you bring an adequate size eye attache to

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<v Speaker 3>the bank. Make sure you do the dishes when you

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<v Speaker 3>get home from work. Make sure you bring an adequate

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<v Speaker 3>size attache to the bank. This is a mother writing this,

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<v Speaker 3>and who the fuck uses the word attache.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's proceed.

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<v Speaker 3>When you get home, you will put the money in

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<v Speaker 3>a brown paper bag. Who do you know who talks

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<v Speaker 3>like this other than someone giving instructions to a kid,

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<v Speaker 3>someone who's used to being listened to as an adult

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<v Speaker 3>parent type figure. Make sure you bring an adequate size

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<v Speaker 3>attache when you get home. You will put the money

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<v Speaker 3>in a brown bag and then reassuring at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>as also a parent would do. I will call you

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<v Speaker 3>between eight and ten tomorrow to instruct you.

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<v Speaker 1>I advise you be rested.

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of kidnapper is this? Make sure you take

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<v Speaker 3>a vitamin ceed, make sure you get a full eight hours,

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<v Speaker 3>make sure you bring an adequate size attache when you

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<v Speaker 3>get home. Listen carefully, must follow the instructions. Did Jean

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<v Speaker 3>Benet Ramsey get abducted by a fucking third grade school teacher?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, was Jean Benet Ramsey abducted by my sixth

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<v Speaker 3>grade lit teacher? Come on, this again is a blaring

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<v Speaker 3>red flag that this is not just some idiot who

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to elicit money from the family. This is an

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<v Speaker 3>inside job. Let's go on in the ransom note the

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<v Speaker 3>two gentlemen watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Over your daughter. Let's stop right there, the two gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>Watching over your daughter. We're already halfway through this ransom note.

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<v Speaker 1>This is page two.

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<v Speaker 3>Still all the punctuation and all the eyes are dotted,

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<v Speaker 3>and the teeth are crossed, and we're making sure that

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<v Speaker 3>I before E, step after see and everything looks good.

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<v Speaker 3>The two gentlemen watching over your daughter, okay, that we

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<v Speaker 3>just abducted k. They don't particularly like you, so I

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<v Speaker 3>advise you not to provoke them. It's beyond belief that

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<v Speaker 3>the ramses it's really not actually because we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>into it. But they've pulled the wool over everyone's eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't even take someone who has extensive training and

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<v Speaker 3>background and forensic files and unsolved mysteries to see that

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<v Speaker 3>no man wrote this note. No man wrote this note.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't particularly like you. It feels like mean girls. Regina

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<v Speaker 3>George abducted Jean Benet.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go on.

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<v Speaker 3>If we catch you talking to a stray dog, she dies.

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<v Speaker 3>If we catch you putting your dirty socks under your

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<v Speaker 3>bed one more time, your asses grassed. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>mom talking. If we catch you.

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<v Speaker 1>You better be rested.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, carefully follow instructions. So it goes on to say

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<v Speaker 3>at the end, you stand a ninety nine percent chance

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<v Speaker 3>of killing your daughter if you try to outsmart us.

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<v Speaker 3>Follow our instructions, and you stand a one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>chance of getting her back. Don't try to grow a brain, John,

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<v Speaker 3>You fucking dildo. Don't underestimate us either, John, use that

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<v Speaker 3>good old Southern common sense of yours. John. It's up

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<v Speaker 3>to you now, Joan. All right, Patsy, you did it,

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<v Speaker 3>you former beauty queen. You you pulled off a brilliant performance

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<v Speaker 3>of a kidnapper. This isn't a Miss America pageant. You're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to convince someone that you are a kidnapper who

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<v Speaker 3>just subducted a little six year old beauty queen, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to elicit money from a wealthy family and

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<v Speaker 3>you're sitting here trying to It's basically like a burn note.

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<v Speaker 1>You fucking fat bit you. John.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you dare try to act like you didn't hurt

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<v Speaker 3>my feelings. That's why we stole your daughter. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be mean to her, and we don't like you, John.

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<v Speaker 3>So listen up, bring a good sized bag to the bank,

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<v Speaker 3>load it with the cash, and drop it. When I say.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what this sounds like.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I really should have, But I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know why I didn't read this ransom note to

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<v Speaker 3>you in the last installment, because.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's a smoking gun. In this case.

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<v Speaker 3>Patsy herself wrote this note, and for reasons that have

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<v Speaker 3>never been adequately explained, the investigation was compromised from the

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<v Speaker 3>very beginning. Officers inexplicably failed to secure the crime scene,

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<v Speaker 3>allowing the families, pastor, and a number of friends to

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<v Speaker 3>come and go freely from the home. No effort was

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<v Speaker 3>made to prevent containment nation of any potential evidence. Detectives

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even arrive to the crime scene until eight ten am,

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<v Speaker 3>over two hours after the first patrol officers arrived. It

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<v Speaker 3>took another twelve hours for the coroner to arrive, and

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<v Speaker 3>once he got there, he spent ten minutes looking at

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<v Speaker 3>Jean Benet in the crime scene and then loaded her

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<v Speaker 3>up and hauled her off. And now, to put things

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<v Speaker 3>into perspective here, at around ten am, the detectives allowed

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<v Speaker 3>John Ramsey to leave the house, as I had stated

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<v Speaker 3>in the previous episode, for over an hour, supposedly running

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<v Speaker 3>at errands. Had to pick up some dry cleaning, check

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<v Speaker 3>the mail, make sure they got the sharp marks out

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<v Speaker 3>of his underpants at the dry cleaners, you name it,

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<v Speaker 3>stop by the porn store, drop off a few VHS

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<v Speaker 3>rentals to Blockbuster, you name it. He's just got to

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<v Speaker 3>run some errands, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Why he had.

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<v Speaker 3>Such a sense of urgency at a time of family

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<v Speaker 3>crisis is so fucking obvious to me. Why also, did

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<v Speaker 3>he choose to go alone when he had friends and

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<v Speaker 3>family who were there to possibly accompany him, but no,

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<v Speaker 3>he fucks off on his own for over well over

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<v Speaker 3>an hour and says he's got to run errands while

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<v Speaker 3>they're looking for his daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the most grievous and baffling errors, though committed

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<v Speaker 3>by the detectives, besides just letting people come and go

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<v Speaker 3>freely from the home and then letting John out of

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<v Speaker 3>their site for well over an hour, is their failure

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<v Speaker 3>to separate the Ramses for questioning. Even though detectives had

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<v Speaker 3>Patsy alone for over an hour well John was dropping

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<v Speaker 3>off tapes at the fucking Blockbuster, no one apparently thought

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<v Speaker 3>to question her. And just as baffling is the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that there was no initial search of the house by

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<v Speaker 3>either the family or the police. When a detective on

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<v Speaker 3>the scene finally suggested around one o'clock in the afternoon

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<v Speaker 3>that it might be a good idea to search the house,

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<v Speaker 3>it had been nearly eight hours since the family first

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<v Speaker 3>discovered John Benay was missing. Seven hours since police arrived

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<v Speaker 3>on the scene, and five hours since detectives have arrived,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet no one had the thought to search the home.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we really supposed to believe that after finding this

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<v Speaker 3>ransom note, the family immediately accepted that their beloved little

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas princess had been taken from the house and there

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<v Speaker 3>was no reason at all to search for her. What

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<v Speaker 3>parent would not search their home repeatedly in the desperate

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<v Speaker 3>hope that somehow something had been overlooked during an earlier search.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be like Sherlock mother fucking homes in that

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<v Speaker 3>bitch dustin for fingerprints everything. As previously mentioned in the

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<v Speaker 3>first installment, when it finally occurred to police that it

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<v Speaker 3>might be a good idea to search the fucking crime scene,

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<v Speaker 3>they assigned that task to the prime suspect, John Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 3>In joining John was his good friend we met before,

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<v Speaker 3>Fleet White, the oil company executive who had hosted the

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<v Speaker 3>party the Ramses attended the previous evening, and who the

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<v Speaker 3>Ramses placed a call to. Immediately after placing the call

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<v Speaker 3>to nine to one one, No, Biggie, I guess let's

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<v Speaker 3>not look into Fleet White or that situation at all. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>Ramsey and White were tasked with searching the crime scene

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<v Speaker 3>and quickly headed to the basement, where they almost immediately

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<v Speaker 3>found Jean Benet's body, not only demonstrating that no effort

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<v Speaker 3>had previously been made to look for John Benet in

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<v Speaker 3>the basement, but the amount of ease in which they

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<v Speaker 3>found her and the ridiculousness of not having found her

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<v Speaker 3>prior to this. Let me tell you what I imagine happened. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>let's let's say I'm Fleet White right now. Hey, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>let's let's go ahead and search the house. Oh okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>me and John, Yeah, let's go. Oh we're supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>start searching now. Damn, I legit have a luncheon at three.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn. Well, let's let's make this short.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, come on, John, Let's go to the basement. Clippity, cloppity,

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<v Speaker 3>We're walking down the stags. Okay, now, we're looking. We're looking.

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<v Speaker 3>We're lock and we're looking. We're looking. Let's flip this

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<v Speaker 3>bucket over. Ah, no decapitated body in there. Uh. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>throw some clothes out of this clothes basket all over

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<v Speaker 3>the floor. Move some socks around. Ooh, nobody in here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>now we're gonna look in this corner over here, near

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<v Speaker 3>the open window with the glass busted out and the

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<v Speaker 3>small child shaped mask underneath the blanket. Holy titty fuck,

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<v Speaker 3>there she is. John Oh, come on White later claimed

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<v Speaker 3>that he had checked the basement earlier and saw nothing

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<v Speaker 3>out of the ordinary. His exact words, and you know why,

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<v Speaker 3>because let's just say, the small child body under the

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<v Speaker 3>blanket wasn't obvious. The window they claim the murderer came

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<v Speaker 3>through had actually been broken for some time, y'all. And

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<v Speaker 3>there was fucking cobby webbs all over the broken glass.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that wouldn't be out of the ordinary since

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<v Speaker 3>the window's been busted since nineteen ninety two. Anyways, John

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<v Speaker 3>Ramsey rushes over, picks up his lifeless daughter and removes

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<v Speaker 3>the tape from her mouth, according to him. Strangely, though,

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<v Speaker 3>the autopsy report later made no mention of tape residue

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<v Speaker 3>around John Benet's mouth, But John insists he removes duct

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<v Speaker 3>tape from John Benet's mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, then he cared.

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<v Speaker 3>Read her upstairs and laid her on the floor. Patsy

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<v Speaker 3>Ramsey collapses at the vision of her daughter in the state,

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<v Speaker 3>and a detective then moved the corpse and covered it

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<v Speaker 3>with a blanket. So this all happened within moments, not

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<v Speaker 3>an hour, not over the course of a few hours.

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<v Speaker 3>In moments, this happened, So within the space of just

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<v Speaker 3>a few minutes, some of the most crucial evidence in

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<v Speaker 3>the case was hopelessly contaminated.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lady.

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<v Speaker 3>Her name is Anne Louise Bardac. She wrote for Vanity Fair.

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<v Speaker 3>She quoted one of the officer's recollections actually of this

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<v Speaker 3>situation and to John and Patsy's reaction to the discovery

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<v Speaker 3>of Jean Benat's body, and it says, quote what was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting was when John brought the body upsid stairs, he

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<v Speaker 3>never cried, but when he laid her down, he started

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<v Speaker 3>to moan while peering around to see who was looking

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<v Speaker 3>end quote. Patsy, he said, quote peered at him through

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<v Speaker 3>splayed fingers in quote, while making sobbing sounds. The officer

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<v Speaker 3>described being haunted by the manner in which Patsy kept

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<v Speaker 3>staring at him. He also noted that he never saw

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<v Speaker 3>either of the Ramseys attempt to comfort or console each other.

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<v Speaker 3>That is again a smoking gun, smoking gun in this case.

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<v Speaker 3>So the glaring inconsistencies of finding both a ransom note

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<v Speaker 3>and the body of the purported kidnapping victim, coupled with

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<v Speaker 3>what was viewed by many as inappropriate behavior by the Ramses,

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<v Speaker 3>seems to indicate that the crime was something other than

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<v Speaker 3>a botched kidnapping and that's basic crime scene one oh one.

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<v Speaker 3>The preponderance of the evidence did not support the idea

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<v Speaker 3>that an intruder was to blame. No footprints were observed

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<v Speaker 3>outside of the home, even though snow covered all of

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<v Speaker 3>the fucking grounds, no signs of a forest entry. The

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<v Speaker 3>ransom note was most likely originated from within the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Within the house, the pages appeared to have been torn

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<v Speaker 3>from the Ramsey's own legal pad, and a pin was

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<v Speaker 3>found in a cup in the kitchen. That was most

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<v Speaker 3>likely the writing instrument. No abduct tour is going to

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<v Speaker 3>go through. And why place the pin back in the cup? Hmmm,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's because she likes to keep a clean countertop.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, the abductor thought that it would be polite

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<v Speaker 3>of him to put the pin back in the cup

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<v Speaker 3>where they got it. Come the fuck on, all right, So,

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<v Speaker 3>according to some reports, the first page of the legal pad,

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<v Speaker 3>which was still attached contained what appeared to be a

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<v Speaker 3>false start in writing the ransom note. Didn't like how

421
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 3>it was going on the rough drafty, so they had

422
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 3>to start over, kind of slap their handwriting up some more,

423
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:31.599
<v Speaker 3>make sure it was nice and incognito.

424
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

425
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Sure, so. The likely scenario that we are asked to

426
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:43.160
<v Speaker 3>believe is that an intruder entered and occupied home, seeking

427
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 3>a victim to abduct, but he then inadvertently killed the

428
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:52.200
<v Speaker 3>intended victim, at which time he decided to hide the

429
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 3>body in the basement, assuming that it wouldn't be found.

430
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:59.279
<v Speaker 3>Then he searched the house for a pen and paper

431
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:04.440
<v Speaker 3>before for composing both an unfinished draft and a final

432
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 3>ransom note, which rambled on at some length and was

433
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 3>very descriptive capitals and punctuation double checked, and then made

434
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:19.200
<v Speaker 3>sure to sweep up any mut or debris from his snowy, muddy,

435
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 3>melted fucking shoes, all without waking anyone, and then quickly

436
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:30.079
<v Speaker 3>surveyed the home to see if any previously broken windows

437
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 3>were available to sneak out of, leaving no trace of

438
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:40.279
<v Speaker 3>his coming and going what a sleuth y'all. Not only that,

439
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:46.480
<v Speaker 3>but to keep it g the room where the body

440
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:51.200
<v Speaker 3>was found was in and out of the way area

441
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:56.480
<v Speaker 3>of the basement. Only a family member would have likely

442
00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 3>known of its existence. John Ramsey acknowledged that fact in

443
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:10.199
<v Speaker 3>a CNN interview quote, the room that we found her

444
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:13.039
<v Speaker 3>in is kind of a remote part of the basement.

445
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Quote.

446
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.840
<v Speaker 3>A casual guest would not know where that room is.

447
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 3>Quote from Patsy. It's you know, kind of out of

448
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:31.239
<v Speaker 3>the way end quote. Despite that early acknowledgment by the

449
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Ramses themselves, the Ramsey's spin team later ferociously denied that

450
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:40.559
<v Speaker 3>the room would have been difficult to locate for someone

451
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:41.840
<v Speaker 3>other than a family member.

452
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:43.559
<v Speaker 2>But it was.

453
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 3>This is the result of a botched up, sloppy ass

454
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 3>cover up for what really happened. And I think I

455
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 3>told you what really happened in the last episode, but

456
00:34:56.679 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna hit you even harder with new evidence to

457
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:05.920
<v Speaker 3>some port my thesis. So you may be wondering to yourself,

458
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 3>is it just my opinion that the note was in

459
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 3>Patsy's hand or that Patsy wrote it? No, because actually

460
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>a dude named Steve Thomas, who was the lead detective

461
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:20.079
<v Speaker 3>on the case, concluded that Patsy wrote the ransom note.

462
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 3>He contends that of the seventy four suspects whose handwriting

463
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 3>samples were reviewed by investigators, Patsy was the only one

464
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 3>that could not be excluded as a suspect. He also

465
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 3>accused her of deliberately changing some elements of her writing

466
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 3>style after the murder in order to disguise her authorship

467
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 3>of the note. Now several days after the discovery of

468
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:57.039
<v Speaker 3>Jean Benet's body, the Ramsey family flew her remains to Atlanta,

469
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:03.559
<v Speaker 3>their former home, for the proper burial. Services were held

470
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 3>on New Year's Eve, after which Joan Beney was laid

471
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 3>to rest next to her half sister Elizabeth, another of

472
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:17.199
<v Speaker 3>John Ramsey's daughters mentioned in the previous episode, and the

473
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:22.239
<v Speaker 3>following day after the services, John and Patsy made their

474
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 3>infamous appearance on CNN. Even while steadfastly claiming to be

475
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 3>too grief stricken to talk to the police, Patsy was

476
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.880
<v Speaker 3>heavily sedated, took a little Zany bar, and she had

477
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 3>been heavily sedated since the day of the murder, along

478
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:46.480
<v Speaker 3>with the Looney Tune little brother Burke. She later claimed

479
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 3>that she was unable to remember anything that occurred during

480
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 3>the weeks immediately following the discovery of the body. Wonder why,

481
00:36:56.519 --> 00:37:01.039
<v Speaker 3>But this is when allegations of prior abuse of Joan

482
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Benet soon began to circulate in the media. Video footage

483
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 3>of Jambinet's pageant appearances was aired endlessly, endlessly, and this

484
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>is a whole part of it, in my opinion, a

485
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:20.320
<v Speaker 3>part of the ritual. But the footage offered no proof

486
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 3>to the abuse allegations, if you will, but it did

487
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:28.000
<v Speaker 3>clearly demonstrate that the Ramses had marketed their daughter as

488
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:33.039
<v Speaker 3>some kind of hyper sexualized woman child. And as I

489
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 3>discussed before, the author Steven Singulair discovered this underground kittie

490
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 3>porn circle where girls almost identically to the case of

491
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 3>John Benet are featured in these pageant videos quote unquote,

492
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:52.880
<v Speaker 3>and these pageant videos are sold on these dark websites,

493
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 3>et cetera. To you can go and find them if

494
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 3>you're in the right circles. And it's in this pageant

495
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:05.159
<v Speaker 3>world world, this underground pageant world, where there are extraordinarily

496
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.199
<v Speaker 3>young girls like John Benet, their hairs dyed, their teeth

497
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:12.119
<v Speaker 3>are capped, they have plastic surgery. They tape their little

498
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.079
<v Speaker 3>tiny boobies together to make it look like they have cleavage,

499
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:18.960
<v Speaker 3>they wear contacts like John Benet, and they enhance their

500
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:23.079
<v Speaker 3>features to make them appear more sexualized for their audience,

501
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 3>the audience who is participating in buying the videos, the.

502
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Photos, etc.

503
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Singulair also discovered that photographing these pre pubescent beauty queens

504
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.960
<v Speaker 3>and risk k poses is a routine business undertaken by

505
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:48.119
<v Speaker 3>some of the most highly regarded child photographers in the country.

506
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Jean Benet Ramsay was just one in an estimated two

507
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.440
<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty thousand girls who are a part of

508
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:01.199
<v Speaker 3>this billion dollar a year business that caters to the

509
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.719
<v Speaker 3>pedophilic tendencies of the adults who gravitate towards child beauty

510
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.320
<v Speaker 3>pageants every year. And I'm not talking about I went

511
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:10.760
<v Speaker 3>to go see my niece at a beauty pageant, or

512
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:12.400
<v Speaker 3>I was in a beauty pageant when I was a kid,

513
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.480
<v Speaker 3>and nothing weird happened to me. There is an underground

514
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:22.679
<v Speaker 3>network of disgusting ass pedophiles, okay, where there is a

515
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 3>dark pageant ring, a katie porn pageant ring. There it's

516
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:31.960
<v Speaker 3>fetish eyes, it's a fetish okay. But we covered all

517
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:37.880
<v Speaker 3>that last time, so let's go back over the autopsy report.

518
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.599
<v Speaker 3>So the autopsy report, which was released in a severely

519
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 3>redacted form on February fourteenth and then in full on

520
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:56.480
<v Speaker 3>August thirteen, made mention of chronic genital inflammation, foreign matter

521
00:39:56.559 --> 00:40:02.880
<v Speaker 3>in the vagina, and epithelial erosion. A detective working the

522
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:06.119
<v Speaker 3>case swore in an Affidavid that the coroner, John Mayer,

523
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 3>told her that someone had definitely had sexual contact with

524
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:19.599
<v Speaker 3>Joan Benet. Doctor Robert Kirshner of the University of Chicago's

525
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Speaker 3>pathology department noted that Joan Benet's vaginal opening was twice

526
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 3>what it is for a normal girl her age. He

527
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:34.800
<v Speaker 3>also stated that the quote genital injuries indicate penetration, but

528
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:39.159
<v Speaker 3>probably not by a penis, and our evidence of molestation

529
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 3>that night as well as previous molestation end quote. Doctor

530
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.760
<v Speaker 3>Cyril Weck, one of the most respected forensic pathologists in

531
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:53.960
<v Speaker 3>the country, told an interviewer quote, this to me is

532
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:59.159
<v Speaker 3>evidence of sexual abuse. I think any forensic gynecologist and

533
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:03.119
<v Speaker 3>forensic pathodists would agree with that. If she had been

534
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:06.199
<v Speaker 3>taken to a hospital emergency room and the doctors had

535
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:12.800
<v Speaker 3>seen the genital evidence, her father would have been arrested. Well,

536
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 3>that's all I need to know. But let's continue. Then.

537
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Of course, there was the pediatrician who had numerous opportunities

538
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:27.840
<v Speaker 3>to observe that evidence. As was widely reported, John Manet

539
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 3>had been taken to this pediatrician no fewer than twenty

540
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:36.719
<v Speaker 3>seven times in the previous three to four years. I

541
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 3>mentioned this before, but it's worth repeating. The doctor claimed,

542
00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 3>rather disingenuinely, that that was a normal rate of visitation

543
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 3>for a childhood age. He also claimed that he had

544
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 3>never seen during any of those visits any evidence of abuse.

545
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:58.320
<v Speaker 3>But it's contradicted by the forensic evidence. And I will

546
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:01.760
<v Speaker 3>take forensic evidence over some guy's opinion any.

547
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Day of the week.

548
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 3>And the forensic evidence indicates chronic abuse. So I wonder

549
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 3>how much he was paid to cover up the abuse

550
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:16.440
<v Speaker 3>for all those years. Speculation, but penny for thought. Now

551
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:21.360
<v Speaker 3>He's not the only questionable medical professional in this case.

552
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:29.039
<v Speaker 3>A place called cell Mark Diagnostics in Germantown, Maryland, which

553
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:34.800
<v Speaker 3>is a CIA linked forensic lab that was also famous

554
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:39.000
<v Speaker 3>during the OJ Simpson trial, by the way, was unable

555
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:43.159
<v Speaker 3>to return any conclusive findings from any of the biological

556
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:51.360
<v Speaker 3>materials it received on the case. Imagine that, But you

557
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.400
<v Speaker 3>know what else is odd? Since we're talking about the

558
00:42:54.480 --> 00:43:01.119
<v Speaker 3>OJ Simpson trial, a number of other OJ players surfaced

559
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:06.519
<v Speaker 3>in this Jambiney Ramsey case as well. Hmm. I mean

560
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 3>from the beginning when a gag order was placed on

561
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:14.800
<v Speaker 3>the officers working the case, there have been concerted efforts

562
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:17.280
<v Speaker 3>made to control the flow of information that the public

563
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 3>has received about the murder of John Beney Ramsey. And

564
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:25.159
<v Speaker 3>largely responsible for shaping the public perception of the case

565
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:29.360
<v Speaker 3>has been the law firm, and they were retained almost

566
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 3>immediately by the Ramseys. And it was Hadden Morgan, Mueller,

567
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:45.280
<v Speaker 3>George Mackie and Foreman. And the tentacles of hal Hadden's firm,

568
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 3>which was had in Morgan, Muller, George Mackie and Foreman,

569
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 3>seemed to reach into every nook and cranny of the

570
00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:04.039
<v Speaker 3>Ramsey case. Let's start with this. Alex Hunter, the man

571
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:08.239
<v Speaker 3>primarily responsible for prosecuting the John Bine Ramsey murder case,

572
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.800
<v Speaker 3>had been Boulder's district attorney since nineteen seventy two, and

573
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.840
<v Speaker 3>during his tenure he developed a reputation for extremely lenient

574
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 3>enforcement of drug laws, making the city a particularly friendly

575
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 3>place for narcotic traffickers. Since nineteen sixty nine, Hunter had

576
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:33.039
<v Speaker 3>been a limited partner in a business enterprise with a

577
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:38.760
<v Speaker 3>lawyer named William Gray, who just happened to be John

578
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:46.599
<v Speaker 3>Ramsey's civil attorney. So the man primarily responsible for prosecuting

579
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 3>the John Benet Ramsey case was in a limited partner

580
00:44:54.440 --> 00:45:03.440
<v Speaker 3>business enterprise with the man who represented Jean Ramse. That's

581
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:10.320
<v Speaker 3>not crooked at all, but let's continue. This powerful firm

582
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:14.519
<v Speaker 3>had deep connections to the democratic power structure that controls

583
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 3>state politics in Colorado. Hal Hadden was the manager of

584
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:26.159
<v Speaker 3>Gary Hart's successful US Senate campaigns, as well as his

585
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:33.719
<v Speaker 3>unsuccessful presidential bid. Hadden also has close ties to District

586
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:39.599
<v Speaker 3>Attorney Alex Hunter and former governors Roy Romer and Richard Lamb.

587
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 3>A Los Angeles Times report from August two thousand and

588
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:51.119
<v Speaker 3>three describes his firm as having quote a long history

589
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 3>of handling high profile cases and getting charges either dismissed

590
00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:01.559
<v Speaker 3>outright or dramatically reduced in In cases where clients have

591
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:05.840
<v Speaker 3>been found guilty, they have often been able to get

592
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:12.880
<v Speaker 3>sentences drastically cut in quote now. The Times cites as

593
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:18.719
<v Speaker 3>an example the case of Rockwell International Corporations Rocky Flats

594
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:25.159
<v Speaker 3>nuclear weapons plant, which was rated by federal agents who

595
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:33.679
<v Speaker 3>discovered quote widespread and egrageous environmental contamination. Radioactive waste was

596
00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:38.519
<v Speaker 3>being illegally dumped into rivers fields and released into the

597
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.199
<v Speaker 3>atmosphere in quote.

598
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Despite the fact.

599
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:48.480
<v Speaker 3>That the evidence against the company was overwhelming, no company

600
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:52.679
<v Speaker 3>officials were ever charged in the case, which was settled

601
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 3>with Rockwell paying a nominal fine. In nineteen ninety, Hadn't

602
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:05.159
<v Speaker 3>represented none other than journalist Hunter S. Thompson, who was

603
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:12.079
<v Speaker 3>facing sexual assault charges. The charges against Thompson were you

604
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 3>guessed it dropped curiously though? Did you know that Hunter S.

605
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 3>Thompson has been accused by witnesses in the Franklin scandal

606
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:30.159
<v Speaker 3>of being a producer of child snuff films? Yeah, that's right.

607
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Remember the episode we covered on Johnny Gosh and the

608
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Franklin cover up the Franklin case. Paul Banassi member, Yeah,

609
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:43.599
<v Speaker 3>it's all linked, motherfucker, and I'm gonna show you how.

610
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.920
<v Speaker 3>But let me not put the cart before the horse.

611
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Let's just say we're gonna circle back to this. So, dude,

612
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:57.639
<v Speaker 3>Patsy Ramsey was represented by these fucking Hadden partners, namely

613
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Patrick Furman and Patrick Burke. Burke was perhaps best known

614
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 3>for having one acquittal for the white supremacist accused of

615
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:13.239
<v Speaker 3>killing Denver radio personality Alan Berg. John Ramsey was represented

616
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:19.280
<v Speaker 3>by partners Brian Morgan and Lee Foreman. Burke. Ramsey was

617
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:24.360
<v Speaker 3>represented by yet another member of the Hadden team. So

618
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:29.519
<v Speaker 3>the Bolder police department, led by Chief Tom Coby, took

619
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:37.199
<v Speaker 3>the unusual step of being represented by who a team

620
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:43.519
<v Speaker 3>of private practice attorneys? And who are these attorneys?

621
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:44.519
<v Speaker 1>Well?

622
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:48.360
<v Speaker 3>One of the three, Robert Miller, had recently teamed with

623
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Hadden on a civil suit. The other of the trio,

624
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:58.239
<v Speaker 3>Daniel Hoffman, had previously been defended in a malpractice suit

625
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 3>by Hadden part Lee Foreman. Who is representing John Ramsey?

626
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:11.199
<v Speaker 3>So they are all represented by members of or members

627
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:15.840
<v Speaker 3>connected to this Hatten group, keeping it in the family,

628
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 3>you see. So, in addition to the legal firepower, the

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<v Speaker 3>Ramseys also hired a professional fucking spokesman, none other than

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<v Speaker 3>Washington spinmeister Patrick Corton, who had served in the Reagan

631
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<v Speaker 3>administration as the consultant for the Office of Personal Management

632
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:44.360
<v Speaker 3>and as the chief spokesman for the outrageously corrupt ed

633
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:51.039
<v Speaker 3>MEAs Run Justice Department. Also on Corton's resume were stints

634
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:57.559
<v Speaker 3>serving as mouthpieces for Iran contract conspirator Oliver North and

635
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 3>for the pharmaceutical research murderers excuse me, Manufacturers of America.

636
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<v Speaker 3>Another addition to the Ramsey spin team was premier FBI

637
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:18.440
<v Speaker 3>profiler John Douglas. One of his former colleagues, Greg McCrary,

638
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:23.000
<v Speaker 3>was also approached to join the team, but he declined

639
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:27.480
<v Speaker 3>the offer after offering the opinion that the murder looked

640
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:33.760
<v Speaker 3>to him like a quote, staged domestic homicide end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>So think about that.

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<v Speaker 3>They hire. FBI profiler John Douglas tried to recruit Greg McCrary,

643
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 3>who was one of his colleagues, but Greg took a

644
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<v Speaker 3>look at the John Binna Ramsey case and was like,

645
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:51.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm good on that looks like a stage domestic homicide.

646
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:56.519
<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, I am all okay and deny to

647
00:50:56.800 --> 00:51:02.559
<v Speaker 3>join the Ramsey's team. All so on the Ramsey team

648
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:08.239
<v Speaker 3>were two private investigation firms who reportedly interviewed every witness

649
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:13.280
<v Speaker 3>approached by Boulder police, and rounding out the team was

650
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 3>a retired investigator named lou Smitt, whose claim to fame

651
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 3>was having solved the murder of Karen Grammer, the sister

652
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:28.000
<v Speaker 3>of actor and accused pedophile Kelsey Grammar. But what's interesting

653
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.159
<v Speaker 3>about this Smit guy is that Smit was brought out

654
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:35.960
<v Speaker 3>of retirement by a district attorney hunter, ostensibly to assist

655
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:42.719
<v Speaker 3>in gathering evidence against the Ramseys. Strangely enough, though, he

656
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.960
<v Speaker 3>resigned a year and a half later and went on

657
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:51.320
<v Speaker 3>to work for the Ramsees. Come to fuck home. He

658
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 3>was brought out of retirement by district crooked ass dick

659
00:51:55.679 --> 00:52:00.760
<v Speaker 3>attorney hunter to gather evidence against the Ramseys, but then

660
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:03.199
<v Speaker 3>resigned a year and a half later and went to

661
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:10.719
<v Speaker 3>work for them. What the fuck? When he switched sides,

662
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:15.480
<v Speaker 3>he brought with him a full accounting of all of

663
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:18.599
<v Speaker 3>the state's evidence in the case. He brought it to

664
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:23.440
<v Speaker 3>the Ramsey's doorstep, which the Ramseys needed access to all along.

665
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 3>So when he switched sides, not only did he gather

666
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:29.880
<v Speaker 3>up all this evidence from the state, he took it

667
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:32.599
<v Speaker 3>to that Ramsey so they knew what they had on him.

668
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Come the fuck on, was she a real person? I

669
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 3>don't know. They seem to have went to a lot

670
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:42.599
<v Speaker 3>of fucking trouble to make this case real, a lot

671
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.039
<v Speaker 3>of money, a lot of corruption, a lot of dirty

672
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 3>deeds here for a fucking CGI photograph. But anyways, I'm

673
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:56.039
<v Speaker 3>not getting into that. Okay, that's not all folks. Boulder

674
00:52:56.079 --> 00:53:00.719
<v Speaker 3>Police loudly complained that Attorney Hunter, who supposed to hired

675
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.599
<v Speaker 3>Lou to dig up dirt on the Ramseys. Yeah right,

676
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:10.960
<v Speaker 3>has actually repeatedly shared information with the Ramseys, even going

677
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:14.119
<v Speaker 3>as far to supply the couple before they're being questioned

678
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:18.679
<v Speaker 3>by police with copies of the police reports and of

679
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 3>their initial statements. Therefore, John and Patsy were able to

680
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:27.920
<v Speaker 3>ensure that their stories remained consistent with both the known

681
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:33.519
<v Speaker 3>facts and with their prior alibis. So a lot of

682
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.480
<v Speaker 3>people talk about how consistent they remained. Over the years.

683
00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:42.519
<v Speaker 3>The fuck bags memorized the police reports that were given

684
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:46.679
<v Speaker 3>to them by the man responsible for prosecuting them, District

685
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Attorney Hunter. Now here's the silver lining to their credit.

686
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:56.320
<v Speaker 3>It appears that at least some of the officers on

687
00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:00.360
<v Speaker 3>the Bolder police force, which had a healthy district trust

688
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:04.400
<v Speaker 3>of District Attorney Hunter and his sidekick loose smitty Boy,

689
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:11.920
<v Speaker 3>they actually attempted to honestly investigate this case. Their efforts

690
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:16.039
<v Speaker 3>were impeded, however, by not only the District Attorney's office,

691
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:21.760
<v Speaker 3>but by the Denver Police Department and the FBI, and

692
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:27.519
<v Speaker 3>the FBI local officials, the ones who weren't in on

693
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 3>this in any way and were just trying to be

694
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:35.039
<v Speaker 3>good police officers and actually work this case. They resisted

695
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:41.360
<v Speaker 3>unsuccessfully the involvement of the District Attorney's office and the FBI.

696
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 3>But there's not really a lot you can do. If

697
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:47.639
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna be a part of it, They're gonna be

698
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:50.920
<v Speaker 3>a part of it. So in April nineteen ninety seven,

699
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:56.079
<v Speaker 3>Bowler Police abruptly stopped sharing information with District Attorney Hunter's office.

700
00:54:57.519 --> 00:55:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Shortly after that, the computer containing the Ramsey case files

701
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:08.719
<v Speaker 3>was hacked into by persons unknown, and that same month,

702
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:15.559
<v Speaker 3>John and Patsy Ramsey submitted to their first formal police interviews.

703
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Enough said, right, And actually, on the very same day

704
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 3>that the computers were hacked, a man named James Michael Thomas,

705
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:34.360
<v Speaker 3>who worked for a private company that specialized in transporting corpses,

706
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:39.920
<v Speaker 3>stole two pages from the Morgue book at the Boulder

707
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Community Hospital. Those two pages had recorded the arrival of

708
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:51.280
<v Speaker 3>John Binney's body four months earlier, on May twenty first,

709
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:54.360
<v Speaker 3>Thompson was charged.

710
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:55.719
<v Speaker 1>With the theft of the pages.

711
00:55:56.599 --> 00:56:03.960
<v Speaker 3>He was also charged with abuse of corpse. Those charges

712
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 3>came from his macob habit of grotesquely posing the corpses

713
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:16.880
<v Speaker 3>in his charge. Sick fucker. And on June eighteenth, the

714
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:21.679
<v Speaker 3>very same James Michael Thompson attempted to burn down the

715
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Ramsey Home. But you know what's interesting about him trying

716
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:31.199
<v Speaker 3>to burn the Ramsey Home down is that Patsy had

717
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:35.159
<v Speaker 3>reportedly expressed a desire that the house should be destroyed

718
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:39.920
<v Speaker 3>along with all the evidence right and had vowed that

719
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:43.679
<v Speaker 3>she would never return to the home where John Benet

720
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:50.360
<v Speaker 3>was killed. Officials predictably announced that Thompson's actions had no

721
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 3>connection to the murder of John Beney. But maybe mister

722
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Thompson was given a few dollar bills to make all

723
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 3>the evidence disappear, including the log from the morgue. Interesting,

724
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:12.880
<v Speaker 3>but you know, June also marked the beginning of the

725
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 3>crumbling of the local political structure in Boulder, Colorado. City

726
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:24.679
<v Speaker 3>manager Tim Honey was the first casualty. Before long, a

727
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:30.719
<v Speaker 3>third of the city's council members had left office. The

728
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:34.239
<v Speaker 3>mayor had decided to move on the head of the

729
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:39.119
<v Speaker 3>Chamber of Commerce had left office, and Police Chief Tom

730
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:44.599
<v Speaker 3>Cooby and police Commander John Eller had both opted to

731
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:45.599
<v Speaker 3>step down.

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00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>In the book on This Case by Steven Singulair, this

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00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:59.280
<v Speaker 3>is what he says, quote, numerous powerful people had been

735
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:03.599
<v Speaker 3>in the Ramsey's home and had been exposed to John Beney.

736
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:08.639
<v Speaker 3>Many of those powerful people were in the Ramsey home

737
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:15.400
<v Speaker 3>just two days before Jean Benet's death, on the night

738
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:20.440
<v Speaker 3>of that first nine to one one call. It is

739
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:24.400
<v Speaker 3>very unlikely that any of those people will ever be

740
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:29.360
<v Speaker 3>named from the guest list, but it is quite possible

741
00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:33.079
<v Speaker 3>that some of them were these public officials who opted

742
00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:37.239
<v Speaker 3>to step away from the limelight right after.

743
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:41.840
<v Speaker 1>The tragedy, and they.

744
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:47.199
<v Speaker 3>All were corrupt as fuck, working with the District Attorney's

745
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:51.599
<v Speaker 3>office to get these two fuck bags off. And what

746
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:55.440
<v Speaker 3>really happened to John Benay on that fateful night in

747
00:58:55.559 --> 00:59:00.280
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety six, And why did the case become such

748
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:05.320
<v Speaker 3>a cause for conspiracy after all? Even in the late nineties,

749
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:07.880
<v Speaker 3>the killing of a child in this country was certainly

750
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:12.079
<v Speaker 3>not an uncommon occurrence, nor was it normally an event

751
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:17.400
<v Speaker 3>deemed worthy of national media attention. A newspaper called Village

752
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Voice even reported in nineteen ninety seven that the United

753
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:24.719
<v Speaker 3>States has, per capita, the highest rate of child homicide

754
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:30.559
<v Speaker 3>in the world. None of the world's people slaughter their

755
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:36.480
<v Speaker 3>children more frequently or more cavalierly than do Americans, and

756
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:40.119
<v Speaker 3>I fucking agree with that statement. So what then, do

757
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:45.840
<v Speaker 3>people make of the John bin A Ramsey case. The family,

758
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 3>of course, would like you to believe it was nothing

759
00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:52.280
<v Speaker 3>more than a badly botched kidnapping plot, but like me,

760
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:56.760
<v Speaker 3>most of you don't buy that brand of bologney. The

761
00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:01.719
<v Speaker 3>kidnapping scenario was most likely conceived after the fact to

762
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:05.559
<v Speaker 3>cover up the intentional death of the child, or maybe accidental,

763
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:09.960
<v Speaker 3>but the plan probably called for the body to be

764
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:15.280
<v Speaker 3>disposed of, and the disappearance blamed on an unknown abductor.

765
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:18.679
<v Speaker 3>But for whatever reason, though, the body couldn't be disposed of.

766
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:23.679
<v Speaker 3>When it became apparent that a search would quickly yield

767
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:27.679
<v Speaker 3>John Benet's remains, John Ramsey made sure that he was

768
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:31.679
<v Speaker 3>the one who made this discovery, thereby compromising the crime

769
01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:37.960
<v Speaker 3>scene and nullifying any forensic evidence linking him to the body. Clever.

770
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:42.079
<v Speaker 3>None of that, of course, answers the question of why

771
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:45.400
<v Speaker 3>John Benet was killed. I do think he was getting

772
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:49.440
<v Speaker 3>tips by the police officers that were corrupt and compromised

773
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:54.199
<v Speaker 3>on how to nullify and contaminate the crime scene for

774
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:57.159
<v Speaker 3>forensic evidence. I believe that one hundred percent. I think

775
01:00:57.199 --> 01:00:59.400
<v Speaker 3>they told him exactly what he needed to do, which

776
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:01.519
<v Speaker 3>is why took them so long to say, let's start

777
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:03.920
<v Speaker 3>looking for the body. They were talking about what you

778
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:06.400
<v Speaker 3>needed to do, what was gonna happen, who was gonna

779
01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:09.400
<v Speaker 3>represent him, and how it was gonna go down anyways,

780
01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:13.840
<v Speaker 3>And I would like to recap my previous deduction on

781
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:18.519
<v Speaker 3>what I believe to have happened, and I'm gonna cut

782
01:01:18.519 --> 01:01:21.440
<v Speaker 3>the shit here and get straight up honest with you.

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01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:25.760
<v Speaker 3>John Benet was killed because of her involvement in a

784
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.920
<v Speaker 3>child pornography and prostitution ring that either one or both

785
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:33.320
<v Speaker 3>of the parents I don't give a fuck were involved in. Essentially,

786
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:36.039
<v Speaker 3>they were acting as pimps and selling John Bennet to

787
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:39.679
<v Speaker 3>the ring, and the truth likely is that both of

788
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:42.159
<v Speaker 3>the Ramseys were involved in pimping their daughter out to

789
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:47.360
<v Speaker 3>other pedophiles. The massive cover up that has shrouded the

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01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:50.639
<v Speaker 3>investigation from day one is indicative of the type of

791
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:54.280
<v Speaker 3>systematic corruption that leads to these type of cases. Being

792
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:59.719
<v Speaker 3>routinely covered up. Such a far reaching effort certainly reeks

793
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:05.760
<v Speaker 3>of government level corruption. Rumors of child pornography have surrounded

794
01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:10.039
<v Speaker 3>the case from the earliest days of the investigation. Police

795
01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:13.079
<v Speaker 3>records indicate that warrants were sought to search the Ramsey

796
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:17.360
<v Speaker 3>home for pornographic materials, probably by the guys who weren't

797
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:23.079
<v Speaker 3>in on it, and the San Jose Mercury News reported

798
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:27.000
<v Speaker 3>that police investigators quote had a strong initial suspicion that

799
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:30.199
<v Speaker 3>someone in the family had an interest in child pornography.

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01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Three days after the girl's bludge and body was discovered

801
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:37.719
<v Speaker 3>in the basement of her family's upscale home Boulder, Colorado,

802
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:43.679
<v Speaker 3>police sees computers, computer discs, CD ROMs, and videos, also

803
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:50.280
<v Speaker 3>still photography equipment. According to the search warrants end quote,

804
01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 3>at least one hundred fifty videotapes were seized from the

805
01:02:56.559 --> 01:03:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Ramsey home. It was also alleged that John Ramsey had

806
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:09.840
<v Speaker 3>been seen numerous times frequenting a CD Denver pornoshop. And no,

807
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that everybody who visits ACD Denver porno

808
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:18.639
<v Speaker 3>shop is guilty of child pornography. But when you have

809
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:23.880
<v Speaker 3>a dead child who has a vaginal opening twice the

810
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:27.920
<v Speaker 3>size of a girl her age that shows chronic abuse.

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<v Speaker 3>Along with these pageantry videos, I'd say we got a

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01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:40.119
<v Speaker 3>connection now. In the tabloid press, it was reported that

813
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:47.039
<v Speaker 3>the computers at Access Graphics were loaded loaded with child pornography.

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01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:51.840
<v Speaker 3>And it is interesting to note that after the murder,

815
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Access Graphics added guards and greatly increased security at its headquarters.

816
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:05.519
<v Speaker 3>And remember I told you that a California woman presented

817
01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:10.679
<v Speaker 3>to Bolder police through her therapist information that she claimed

818
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:14.440
<v Speaker 3>to have had about the John Benet Ramsey case. The

819
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:21.920
<v Speaker 3>therapist was Mary ben Kowski, and she spoke of a

820
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:27.239
<v Speaker 3>pedophile ring operating in the Boulder area. She identified her

821
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.840
<v Speaker 3>client of ten years as a past victim of the ring,

822
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:35.599
<v Speaker 3>which she said had direct links to the Ramsey family.

823
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:42.719
<v Speaker 3>There were probably the fucking kingpins of this pedophile ring.

824
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:47.559
<v Speaker 3>She also said that her client had provided police with

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01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:51.880
<v Speaker 3>the names of several people who had witnessed the murder

826
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:56.440
<v Speaker 3>of John Benay. Bin Kowski also claimed that the witness

827
01:04:56.480 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 3>had provided evidence of the ongoing abuse use of other children,

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01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:08.159
<v Speaker 3>and the unidentified witness was interviewed by agents of the FBI.

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01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Shortly after that, she went into hiding afraid for her life,

830
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:23.440
<v Speaker 3>so instead of taking this information and evidence and investigating it,

831
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:31.239
<v Speaker 3>that threatened her fucking life. The Bolder Sheriff's office portrayed

832
01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:34.639
<v Speaker 3>the woman as a crazed luney bin, claiming that she

833
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:38.559
<v Speaker 3>had a history of making false reports. The woman, however,

834
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<v Speaker 3>maintained that while she had indeed made previous reports, they

835
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<v Speaker 3>were not false reports, but rather uninvestigated reports. There is

836
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:53.760
<v Speaker 3>no indication that the leads she supplied on the Ramsey

837
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:57.400
<v Speaker 3>case were ever investigated as well as her previous reports.

838
01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:00.800
<v Speaker 3>So how can they say that she's made fat reports

839
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:04.320
<v Speaker 3>when none of the evidence that she has supplied was

840
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:06.199
<v Speaker 3>ever investigated.

841
01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:11.519
<v Speaker 1>So could such a ring have existed.

842
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:15.559
<v Speaker 3>In Bolder, and if so, could that have provided the

843
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:22.119
<v Speaker 3>hidden subtext of the John Benet Ramsey murder. Conclusive evidence

844
01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:25.480
<v Speaker 3>is hard to come by, but a few tantalizing bits

845
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:31.639
<v Speaker 3>and pieces have surfaced. I have previously mentioned Randy Simmons,

846
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:35.360
<v Speaker 3>who was considered to be the best, the most expensive

847
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:40.280
<v Speaker 3>child photographer in the Bolder area. But more than a

848
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:44.679
<v Speaker 3>few Pageant mothers reported that Simmons had approached them about

849
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:50.400
<v Speaker 3>shooting nudes of their daughters. They declined the offer, okay,

850
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:56.840
<v Speaker 3>but how many pageant mothers consented to these offers. In

851
01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:00.360
<v Speaker 3>June nineteen ninety six, just months before John Benet's death,

852
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Simmons took what were described as Kavi garrel shots of

853
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:10.119
<v Speaker 3>the beauty Queen, who on several occasions had been photographed

854
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:13.960
<v Speaker 3>with Daphney White, her best friend and the daughter of

855
01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:16.599
<v Speaker 3>Fleet White. I mentioned this before, but just wanted to

856
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:22.679
<v Speaker 3>remind you of that. And just after Joan Benet's death,

857
01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Simmons abruptly left his wife, left his daughter, left Denver,

858
01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:32.880
<v Speaker 3>and moved to a remote area of eastern Colorado.

859
01:07:34.639 --> 01:07:35.840
<v Speaker 1>No one ever.

860
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:39.519
<v Speaker 3>Seemed to know why he had done this. He was

861
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:43.360
<v Speaker 3>said to be extremely distraught over the murder my ass.

862
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:48.159
<v Speaker 3>He reportedly placed several frantic calls to friends during which

863
01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:52.360
<v Speaker 3>he expressed a profound fear for his life after the

864
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:57.280
<v Speaker 3>death of after the murder, he has a profound fear

865
01:07:57.400 --> 01:08:02.719
<v Speaker 3>for his life. He also wrote an article for Stage Lines,

866
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:06.360
<v Speaker 3>which was a pageant newsletter, in which he claimed that

867
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:10.000
<v Speaker 3>he was being pursued by these paramilitary types. He also

868
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:14.480
<v Speaker 3>expressed concern to the newsletters publisher about the possibility of

869
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:21.119
<v Speaker 3>someone releasing inappropriate photos of Jambinet. Well, how the fuck

870
01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:29.560
<v Speaker 3>did you get those, Randy and just recapping the wonderland

871
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:34.600
<v Speaker 3>raids that swept through a number of American cities. One

872
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Richard Bruce Thomas was arrested. He was a computer consultant

873
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:44.079
<v Speaker 3>living in Fort Collins, Colorado, about an hour's drive from

874
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:48.800
<v Speaker 3>the Ramsey home. Thomas was found shot to death in

875
01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:53.199
<v Speaker 3>his home on September fifth, nineteen ninety eight. His death

876
01:08:53.359 --> 01:09:00.600
<v Speaker 3>was ruled, of course, a suicide. So Richard Bruce de

877
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Bruce Thomas was suicided. Now that's very interesting. A man

878
01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:11.520
<v Speaker 3>named James Parton was arrested on charges of distributing child

879
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:16.359
<v Speaker 3>pornography on the Internet from his Columbus, Ohio home, which

880
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:21.079
<v Speaker 3>was also found to contain a photograph of John Benet Ramsey.

881
01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Parton was also the prime suspect in a nineteen eighty

882
01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:30.760
<v Speaker 3>three disappearance of a fourteen year old girl from Idaho Springs, Colorado.

883
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:36.359
<v Speaker 3>And again, this dude, Stephen Singulair, who discovered the underground

884
01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:41.079
<v Speaker 3>kitty porn pageant ring, took some of these scraps of

885
01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:47.640
<v Speaker 3>evidence that he had collected and presented them to none

886
01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:53.560
<v Speaker 3>other than District Attorney Alex Hunter from the Ramsey investigation.

887
01:09:55.800 --> 01:10:01.000
<v Speaker 3>And then he took him to Detective Sergeant Tom Wickman

888
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:05.520
<v Speaker 3>of the Boulder Police Department, and then he took them

889
01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:12.359
<v Speaker 3>to Ellis Armistead, one of the Ramsey's private investigators. All

890
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:19.119
<v Speaker 3>three took his information, offered nothing in return, and all

891
01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 3>three chose not to investigate the leads that he had provided. Fuckers,

892
01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:31.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you this is so involved and convoluted for

893
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:35.439
<v Speaker 3>something that would have just been a CGI phote. Oh

894
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:38.760
<v Speaker 3>like this, There's no way that this didn't actually happen.

895
01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:43.000
<v Speaker 3>It's a sloppy cover up of a grotesque murder of

896
01:10:43.039 --> 01:10:48.520
<v Speaker 3>a child, and what could prove to be a key

897
01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:52.279
<v Speaker 3>piece of evidence in the case has been largely ignored

898
01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:56.079
<v Speaker 3>by the media and by various theories of the crime.

899
01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:02.319
<v Speaker 3>The undigested food in John ben stomach and small intestine,

900
01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:07.479
<v Speaker 3>which again indicates that John Beney had eaten fairly close

901
01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:12.239
<v Speaker 3>to the proximity of her death. According to the Ramseys

902
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:15.520
<v Speaker 3>version of events, John Benet had eaten earlier in the

903
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:19.119
<v Speaker 3>evening at the Whites party, but she did not eat

904
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:22.319
<v Speaker 3>at home before she was put in bed. Forensic evidence

905
01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:31.439
<v Speaker 3>says no er wrong. The existence of the largely undigested

906
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:36.680
<v Speaker 3>food matter has therefore never been explained. In fact, it

907
01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:41.880
<v Speaker 3>has been almost entirely ignored by most conspiracy theorists until

908
01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:46.880
<v Speaker 3>now right, although some have tried to explain it away

909
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:51.159
<v Speaker 3>with the theory that John Beney would be fed before

910
01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:54.720
<v Speaker 3>killing her by her abductor, which is a fucking stupid

911
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.479
<v Speaker 3>ass theory because there was no abductor. But a more

912
01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:02.560
<v Speaker 3>reasonable explanation for the undigested food is that John Benet

913
01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:06.800
<v Speaker 3>was killed shortly after she was known to have last eaten.

914
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:14.479
<v Speaker 3>She was, to be more specific, killed before the Ramsey

915
01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:18.720
<v Speaker 3>family returned home from the party they had been attending.

916
01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:23.479
<v Speaker 3>Such a scenario would help to explain some of the

917
01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:26.840
<v Speaker 3>other facts and persistent rumors that have surrounded the case

918
01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:27.279
<v Speaker 3>as well.

919
01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:31.359
<v Speaker 1>For example, it.

920
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.720
<v Speaker 3>Was mentioned previously that John Benet's body, despite being in

921
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:38.199
<v Speaker 3>the cold confines of the basement of the Ramsey home,

922
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:44.640
<v Speaker 3>had decomposed to the point of emitting a noticeable odor.

923
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:49.920
<v Speaker 3>It is unlikely that decomposition would have advanced to that

924
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:54.159
<v Speaker 3>stage had John Beney been killed between ten pm when

925
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:57.199
<v Speaker 3>she was allegedly put to bed in five am, when

926
01:12:57.239 --> 01:13:05.239
<v Speaker 3>her disappearance was alleged discovered. It does not match the

927
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:12.560
<v Speaker 3>forensic evidence. Some investigators believe that John Benay's clothing was

928
01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:16.880
<v Speaker 3>changed after her death. The Ramses have acknowledged that she

929
01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:19.800
<v Speaker 3>was in fact changed before she was put to bed

930
01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:24.359
<v Speaker 3>after the family had returned home from the party. If

931
01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:29.439
<v Speaker 3>she was already dead at the time, then she was

932
01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:35.960
<v Speaker 3>indeed redressed after the murder. It is interesting as well

933
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:43.039
<v Speaker 3>that in the Ramsey's own telling of the story, they

934
01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:47.319
<v Speaker 3>accounted for the limp figure of John Bennet to be

935
01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:52.479
<v Speaker 3>carried from the car into the house upon the family's

936
01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:58.720
<v Speaker 3>return home in case any witness noticed them bringing her

937
01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:04.880
<v Speaker 3>body in. Some investigators also believed that some elements of

938
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:11.359
<v Speaker 3>the crime scene, particularly the ligatures, were staged. That is

939
01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:14.560
<v Speaker 3>also consistent with the child having been killed somewhere else

940
01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:19.039
<v Speaker 3>and then deposited in the basement. It is possible that

941
01:14:19.079 --> 01:14:22.239
<v Speaker 3>the ligatures were added after the fact, when it became

942
01:14:22.279 --> 01:14:25.000
<v Speaker 3>apparent it was not going to be able to dispose

943
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:28.119
<v Speaker 3>of the body, as we discussed earlier. It is also

944
01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:32.920
<v Speaker 3>possible that the ligatures were an artifact of the party

945
01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:40.680
<v Speaker 3>necessarily loosened when the body was redressed and then retied.

946
01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:45.199
<v Speaker 3>The claim by the patient of the psychiatrists that we

947
01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:48.199
<v Speaker 3>talked about earlier that provided all this info that was

948
01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:50.960
<v Speaker 3>never investigated. They said she was making false reports. So

949
01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:53.800
<v Speaker 3>she claimed that there were numerous witnesses to the murder,

950
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:57.399
<v Speaker 3>which is also consistent with John Benet being killed at

951
01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:02.600
<v Speaker 3>the party that they were tending White's house. One of

952
01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:05.199
<v Speaker 3>those witnesses, as we had mentioned in the previous episode,

953
01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:08.039
<v Speaker 3>would have had to have been Burke, the little brother,

954
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:11.560
<v Speaker 3>who some suspect witnessed or was even involved to some

955
01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:16.720
<v Speaker 3>degree in the killing of John to day, that would

956
01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:19.520
<v Speaker 3>explain the Ramsey family's efforts to shield the looney tune

957
01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:23.840
<v Speaker 3>from the media and from inquisitive police. Have y'all seen

958
01:15:23.880 --> 01:15:28.039
<v Speaker 3>the Doctor Phil interview. He's sitting there laughing and smiling.

959
01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:32.319
<v Speaker 3>That's how they program your mind in these cults. In

960
01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:37.520
<v Speaker 3>this religion, you torment and murdered your own sister when

961
01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:40.960
<v Speaker 3>you were eight years old. Bro, sitting there laughing and

962
01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:43.239
<v Speaker 3>smiling like, yeah.

963
01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:47.399
<v Speaker 1>My sister's taking a dirt nowt BAA what.

964
01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:55.479
<v Speaker 3>Come on. As a final note on the Ramsey case,

965
01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:59.119
<v Speaker 3>John and Patsy have on occasion publicized the fact that

966
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:02.520
<v Speaker 3>a stun gun was possibly used to incapacitate John Binney

967
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:06.199
<v Speaker 3>prior to her death. This is supposed to solidify the

968
01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:09.560
<v Speaker 3>intruder theory, since the Ramseys claimed that they never have

969
01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:13.760
<v Speaker 3>ever owned a stun gun. However, as we know, one

970
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:16.800
<v Speaker 3>of the videotape sees from their home included instructions on

971
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:19.239
<v Speaker 3>how to use, of all things, a stun gun, and

972
01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:22.359
<v Speaker 3>she did appear to have stun gun marks all over

973
01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:28.279
<v Speaker 3>her body in her death, as well as childhood photographs

974
01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:37.159
<v Speaker 3>of her continuing chronic torture and abuse, and just a reminder.

975
01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:40.319
<v Speaker 3>John Ramsey is the son of a World War Two

976
01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:44.159
<v Speaker 3>pilot who later served as the director of the Michigan

977
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Aeronautics Commission, where he was known as Czar Ramsey. John

978
01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:52.439
<v Speaker 3>himself was a naval officer and pilot in the Philippines

979
01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:56.159
<v Speaker 3>in the late nineteen sixties Laurel Canyon Anyone, and he

980
01:16:56.319 --> 01:17:00.880
<v Speaker 3>later formed a company that he named Access Graphic, and

981
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:05.720
<v Speaker 3>that company later became a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin, one

982
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:12.239
<v Speaker 3>of the nation's largest military intelligence contractors. After the buyout,

983
01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:18.880
<v Speaker 3>John served as the company's president and CEO. His vice

984
01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:28.239
<v Speaker 3>president was Donald Paul Passy's father, Kay and Donald Paul

985
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:34.800
<v Speaker 3>was a former Union carbide engineer, and Patsy, of course,

986
01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:40.279
<v Speaker 3>was a former beauty queen herself her mom had complete

987
01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:43.239
<v Speaker 3>control of her. They described her as a little automaton.

988
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:49.880
<v Speaker 3>The family in which Patsy came from, the paw family

989
01:17:50.119 --> 01:17:54.159
<v Speaker 3>was described as being insular, like a closed society unto itself.

990
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:00.680
<v Speaker 3>People hinted around that Patsy couldn't make her mind up

991
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:03.000
<v Speaker 3>for herself, that she had no original thoughts of her own.

992
01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:05.760
<v Speaker 3>She was completely controlled by her mother her entire life,

993
01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:09.960
<v Speaker 3>and then that dominion was passed over to John who

994
01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:16.399
<v Speaker 3>exerted considerable influence over her as well. And I would

995
01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:19.640
<v Speaker 3>place a considerable wager on the odds that Patsy herself

996
01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:23.279
<v Speaker 3>was a childhood victim of this underground pageant circuit as well.

997
01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Let's be real.

998
01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:28.840
<v Speaker 3>And also what I find interesting is that in this

999
01:18:28.960 --> 01:18:33.319
<v Speaker 3>research I'm presenting to you now, the work of David

1000
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:38.199
<v Speaker 3>McGowan and Steven Singulair were crucial in tying all the

1001
01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:46.159
<v Speaker 3>pieces together, and how similar the conclusions are in their

1002
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:50.560
<v Speaker 3>research is the most pinnacled part of this whole thing.

1003
01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:56.159
<v Speaker 3>SINGULARI and McGowan both touched on Looney Tune Burke and

1004
01:18:56.319 --> 01:18:59.319
<v Speaker 3>why the family acted so oddly when it came to him,

1005
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:03.479
<v Speaker 3>and their conclusion is that it's because Burt saw his

1006
01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:07.039
<v Speaker 3>sister getting killed by a mob of petos at an

1007
01:19:07.079 --> 01:19:10.119
<v Speaker 3>eyes wide chet party, and they didn't want him to

1008
01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:16.159
<v Speaker 3>say anything, or maybe he even participated. And I want

1009
01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:18.880
<v Speaker 3>to quickly address the theory that Looney Tune Burke was

1010
01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:21.319
<v Speaker 3>the one who had a freak accident and killed John Beney.

1011
01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:25.399
<v Speaker 3>It would not account for the evidence found during the autopsy.

1012
01:19:25.960 --> 01:19:29.079
<v Speaker 3>And for those of you who were brainwashed by a

1013
01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:33.479
<v Speaker 3>certain documentary claiming it had to have been Looney Tune Burke,

1014
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:41.479
<v Speaker 3>riddle me this. If it was a freak accident, why

1015
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:44.880
<v Speaker 3>does John Benet have fresh stun gun marks on her body?

1016
01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Sounds a little premeditated to me. And what nine year

1017
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:56.239
<v Speaker 3>old knows their way around a stun gun. And that's

1018
01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:59.920
<v Speaker 3>not to mention the chronic genital inflammation and the four

1019
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:03.960
<v Speaker 3>and matter found in the vagina and the epithelial erosion

1020
01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:08.720
<v Speaker 3>of the vagina. You tell me how that makes sense

1021
01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:11.399
<v Speaker 3>for the little brother having a freak accident and knocking

1022
01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:16.319
<v Speaker 3>her over the head with a Tonka truck. What about

1023
01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:19.279
<v Speaker 3>the detective working the case that swore in an affida

1024
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:22.800
<v Speaker 3>fit that the coroner, John Mayer told her that someone

1025
01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:27.800
<v Speaker 3>had definitely had sexual contact with the child and doctor

1026
01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Robert Kirshner of the University of Chicago's pathology department, noticing

1027
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:35.479
<v Speaker 3>that John Bennet's vaginal opening was twice what it was

1028
01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:39.840
<v Speaker 3>for a normal girl her age, and seeing evidence of

1029
01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:43.479
<v Speaker 3>molestation that night as well as previous molestation. What's that,

1030
01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:50.039
<v Speaker 3>Burke two? Is he the Devil incarnate? Is he Damien

1031
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:51.680
<v Speaker 3>raping his sister?

1032
01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:52.159
<v Speaker 1>And shit?

1033
01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Stun gun in her?

1034
01:20:53.720 --> 01:20:54.159
<v Speaker 1>And shit?

1035
01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:57.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. The dude couldn't even get through

1036
01:20:57.439 --> 01:21:04.720
<v Speaker 3>a doctor Phil interview. Come on to be completely honest

1037
01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:09.319
<v Speaker 3>with everyone. After researching the disappearance of Johnny Gosh and

1038
01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:13.079
<v Speaker 3>the Franklin case involving Paul Banassi and all his personalities

1039
01:21:13.079 --> 01:21:21.399
<v Speaker 3>and shit, listening to Paul Banassi's testimony and trying to

1040
01:21:21.640 --> 01:21:26.039
<v Speaker 3>wrap my mind around the atrocities that have occurred to

1041
01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:30.560
<v Speaker 3>innocent children that have been kidnapped and never seen again.

1042
01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:36.279
<v Speaker 3>I almost wonder if the Ramses weren't trying to pull

1043
01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:44.920
<v Speaker 3>off a stage Johnny Gosh type disappearance. There is a

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01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:49.800
<v Speaker 3>speculation that Johnny Gosh's father was receiving strange phone calls

1045
01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:53.319
<v Speaker 3>in the days leading up to his disappearance, and his

1046
01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:59.920
<v Speaker 3>father always without exception went with him on his new

1047
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:07.039
<v Speaker 3>US paper route apart from one day, one day the

1048
01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:13.000
<v Speaker 3>day he was abducted. And then Paul Pinassi claims to

1049
01:22:13.079 --> 01:22:16.560
<v Speaker 3>have been in the car present on the day of

1050
01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Johnny gosh abduction and they use Johnny as one of

1051
01:22:22.399 --> 01:22:29.000
<v Speaker 3>these slave kids to use in a blackmail video. Could

1052
01:22:29.079 --> 01:22:37.479
<v Speaker 3>this be a less successful version of Johnny Gosh? The

1053
01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:39.439
<v Speaker 3>Eyes Wide Shut party.

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01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Is in full swing.

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01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Several high ranking individuals from the elite of Boulder Society

1056
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:47.840
<v Speaker 3>are in attendance.

1057
01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Without question.

1058
01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:55.479
<v Speaker 3>Someone is holding a camera, perhaps mister Randy Simmons, who

1059
01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:58.880
<v Speaker 3>was considered to be the best in the most expensive

1060
01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:03.399
<v Speaker 3>child photograph in the Boulder area. Maybe even Sam who

1061
01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:08.079
<v Speaker 3>may have attended this Eyes Wide Shut party. While we

1062
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:10.960
<v Speaker 3>can be pretty damn certain based on the behavior from

1063
01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:15.119
<v Speaker 3>the District Attorney Alex Hunter, that his ass was yuletiding

1064
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:22.039
<v Speaker 3>it the fuck up in there, but who else. One

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01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:26.199
<v Speaker 3>man who is known to have attended is Bill McReynolds,

1066
01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:31.680
<v Speaker 3>who played Santa Claus for the event recap so on

1067
01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:35.880
<v Speaker 3>December twenty sixth, nineteen seventy four, exactly twenty two years

1068
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:39.960
<v Speaker 3>before the murder of John Bennet. Bill Mcreynolds's own daughter

1069
01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:43.920
<v Speaker 3>had been abducted along with a friend from the McReynolds

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01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:48.479
<v Speaker 3>home not far from Boulder. The girl was released unharmed

1071
01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:51.359
<v Speaker 3>after being forced to witness an assault on her friend,

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01:23:52.039 --> 01:23:55.560
<v Speaker 3>but there were no arrests made and no charges wherever filed.

1073
01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:59.840
<v Speaker 3>And not long after that, Bill's wife, Janet, wrote a

1074
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:06.560
<v Speaker 3>screenplay that was entitled Hey Rube that concerns the abduction, torture,

1075
01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:10.000
<v Speaker 3>and murder of a young girl whose battered body is

1076
01:24:10.039 --> 01:24:16.000
<v Speaker 3>discovered lying on a cold basement floor. The Ramses considered

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01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:19.319
<v Speaker 3>McReynolds one of their prime suspects, along with one hundred

1078
01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:22.600
<v Speaker 3>and sixty plus other people whose names appeared on their

1079
01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:24.279
<v Speaker 3>self serving suspect list.

1080
01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:26.319
<v Speaker 1>But my question to you.

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01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:32.319
<v Speaker 3>Is that if the Ramseyes were so close to Bill McReynolds,

1082
01:24:33.279 --> 01:24:37.439
<v Speaker 3>close enough for him to not only be an invided

1083
01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:42.039
<v Speaker 3>but to dress up as Santa throwing back a couple

1084
01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:47.119
<v Speaker 3>eggnog shooters with the motherfucker, what are the odds that

1085
01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:51.840
<v Speaker 3>this little screwed up screenplay, Hey Ruby Slippers, excuse me,

1086
01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:59.560
<v Speaker 3>Hey Rube, may have inspired the cover up after they

1087
01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:04.680
<v Speaker 3>needed to stage the crime scene. Think about it. Maybe

1088
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Bill gave them a little inspiration knowingly or unknowingly. What's

1089
01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:17.680
<v Speaker 3>more interesting, considering I brought up Johnny Gosh, is that

1090
01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned earlier a little somebody named Hunter S. Thompson

1091
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:28.439
<v Speaker 3>who has been accused by witnesses in the Franklin case

1092
01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:34.199
<v Speaker 3>of being a producer of child snuff films, which was

1093
01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:38.119
<v Speaker 3>quickly swept under the rug. But how would you like

1094
01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:45.039
<v Speaker 3>to know? He too wrote a column entitled Hey Rube,

1095
01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:50.960
<v Speaker 3>and these columns later became a book entitled Hey Rube,

1096
01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:59.840
<v Speaker 3>blood Sport the Bush Doctrine in the Downward Spiral of Dumbness. Now,

1097
01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:05.199
<v Speaker 3>this column that he wrote that turned into a book

1098
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:10.159
<v Speaker 3>consisted of eighty three articles split into three parts. The

1099
01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:16.600
<v Speaker 3>articles were first published on ESPN dot COM's website and

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01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:21.960
<v Speaker 3>it contains articles from November twentieth, two thousand to October thirteenth,

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01:26:22.039 --> 01:26:29.600
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three. This was his final book. This

1102
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:34.520
<v Speaker 3>was the final book Thompson published before his death in

1103
01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:40.560
<v Speaker 3>February two thousand and five. Some articles are focused on

1104
01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:44.680
<v Speaker 3>subjects such as fear and loathing in America and love

1105
01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:49.760
<v Speaker 3>blooms in the Rockies, and that one actually deals with

1106
01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:55.399
<v Speaker 3>the nine to eleven attacks and then Thompson's marriage and

1107
01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:58.560
<v Speaker 3>included in Hey rub is a copy of a personal

1108
01:26:58.640 --> 01:27:02.239
<v Speaker 3>report written about Thompson during his time in the United

1109
01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:08.840
<v Speaker 3>States Air Force at the Eglin Air Force Base in Florida,

1110
01:27:09.079 --> 01:27:14.760
<v Speaker 3>and mentioned in this book. Also is Thompson's personal political

1111
01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:19.520
<v Speaker 3>statements and a quote unquote honor roll which he includes

1112
01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:23.840
<v Speaker 3>names of figures such as Johnny Depp, Fidel Castro, and

1113
01:27:24.039 --> 01:27:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Al Gore. But let's dive a little deeper now that

1114
01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:32.840
<v Speaker 3>we're Tangentine, We're gonna connect everything.

1115
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Now.

1116
01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:42.880
<v Speaker 3>The father of gonzo journalism, Hunter S. Thompson was a nasty,

1117
01:27:43.479 --> 01:27:48.279
<v Speaker 3>dark individual and as I hope to show, was very

1118
01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:51.560
<v Speaker 3>much tied up in the inversion culture wars for the

1119
01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Crime Syndicate. He seemed to know things that he wished

1120
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:07.279
<v Speaker 3>to reveal, especially as he got older. So he just

1121
01:28:07.399 --> 01:28:12.680
<v Speaker 3>seemed to know things he shouldn't know. And according to

1122
01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:17.720
<v Speaker 3>the false official narrative, Thompson died from a self inflicted

1123
01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:21.840
<v Speaker 3>gunshot wound to the head at his self described quote

1124
01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:30.199
<v Speaker 3>fortified compound in quote known as Owl Farm in Woody Creek, Colorado,

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01:28:30.439 --> 01:28:34.600
<v Speaker 3>at five forty two pm on February twenty, two, thousand

1126
01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:39.680
<v Speaker 3>and five. Are you getting the chills yet? Well, if

1127
01:28:39.680 --> 01:28:46.600
<v Speaker 3>you haven't, just hang on. Thompson's son Wan, daughter in

1128
01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:51.359
<v Speaker 3>law Jennifer Winkle Thompson, and grandson Will Thompson were visiting

1129
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:54.920
<v Speaker 3>for the weekend at the time of his sea Withisside.

1130
01:28:56.319 --> 01:28:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Will and Jennifer were in the adjacent room when they

1131
01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:04.119
<v Speaker 3>heard the gunshot. The last word he was typing on

1132
01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:08.039
<v Speaker 3>his computer was counselor, indicating that he was in the

1133
01:29:08.079 --> 01:29:13.680
<v Speaker 3>middle of a sentence. Here's a quote from Hunter S.

1134
01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Thompson.

1135
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:20.199
<v Speaker 3>The truth, when you finally chase it down, is almost

1136
01:29:20.319 --> 01:29:26.800
<v Speaker 3>always far worse than your darkest visions and fears end quote.

1137
01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:32.640
<v Speaker 3>So could it have been a friendly fire on their part?

1138
01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:37.159
<v Speaker 3>You know the weird pedos and shit this underground crime syndicate.

1139
01:29:37.319 --> 01:29:41.399
<v Speaker 3>It's a friendly fire because Hunter S. Thompson was supposed

1140
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:44.159
<v Speaker 3>to be part of the posse, Right, why did he

1141
01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:48.199
<v Speaker 3>get suicided? Well, it's because no one, and I mean

1142
01:29:48.359 --> 01:29:53.800
<v Speaker 3>no one, Marilyn Monroe or not is safe in this game.

1143
01:29:55.520 --> 01:30:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Paul William Roberts, a colonist at the Toronto Globe and Mail, stated,

1144
01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:05.800
<v Speaker 3>quote Hunter telephoned me on February nineteenth, the night before

1145
01:30:05.840 --> 01:30:09.680
<v Speaker 3>his death. He sounded scared. It wasn't always easy to

1146
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:14.399
<v Speaker 3>understand what he said, particularly over the phone. He mumbled, Yet,

1147
01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:17.439
<v Speaker 3>when there was something he really wanted you to understand,

1148
01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:20.920
<v Speaker 3>you did. He'd been working on a story about the

1149
01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:23.880
<v Speaker 3>World Trade Center attacks and had stumbled across what he

1150
01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:26.439
<v Speaker 3>felt was hard evidence showing that the towers had been

1151
01:30:26.439 --> 01:30:29.520
<v Speaker 3>brought down not by the airplanes that flew into them,

1152
01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:33.920
<v Speaker 3>but by explosive charges set off in their foundations. He

1153
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:36.800
<v Speaker 3>thought someone was out to stop him from publishing it.

1154
01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:40.319
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna make it look like a suicide, he said,

1155
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:42.600
<v Speaker 3>I know how these bastards think.

1156
01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:45.039
<v Speaker 1>End quote.

1157
01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Hunter also stated, quote if I'd written all the truth

1158
01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:54.039
<v Speaker 3>I knew for the past ten years, about six hundred people,

1159
01:30:54.199 --> 01:30:57.760
<v Speaker 3>including me, would be rotting in prison cells from Rio

1160
01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:02.960
<v Speaker 3>to Seattle today. A salute truth is a very rare

1161
01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:08.159
<v Speaker 3>and dangerous commodity in the context of a professional journalist.

1162
01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:17.479
<v Speaker 3>In quote, despite his life of depravity, it was I

1163
01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:21.239
<v Speaker 3>guess nine to eleven that was the bridge too far

1164
01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:26.720
<v Speaker 3>for Thompson. He said President Bush had taken the country

1165
01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:29.960
<v Speaker 3>in two years from a prosperous nation at peace to

1166
01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:34.439
<v Speaker 3>a broken nation at war, And he wrote, you could

1167
01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:37.760
<v Speaker 3>not take this case accusing bin Laden of nine to

1168
01:31:37.800 --> 01:31:43.560
<v Speaker 3>eleven to court and win end quote. But besides nine

1169
01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:47.560
<v Speaker 3>to eleven, he was working on the White House Reporter

1170
01:31:47.800 --> 01:31:52.439
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Gannon scandal, which was tied to the Franklin Callboy

1171
01:31:52.600 --> 01:31:59.439
<v Speaker 3>Peto ring, which he himself was directly involved in. Paul Binnasi,

1172
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:04.119
<v Speaker 3>as I was mentioning earlier, testified in court proceedings that

1173
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:07.920
<v Speaker 3>he helped kidnap Johnny Gosh in nineteen eighty two, in

1174
01:32:07.960 --> 01:32:14.119
<v Speaker 3>that in July of nineteen eighty four, Paul Bannasi was

1175
01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:18.720
<v Speaker 3>forced to participate in an orgy at Bohemian Grove where

1176
01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:22.680
<v Speaker 3>a young boy was brutally Let me okay, let's back up.

1177
01:32:24.399 --> 01:32:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Trigger warning If extremely explicit content related to children unsettles you.

1178
01:32:31.319 --> 01:32:34.039
<v Speaker 3>Although you are listening to the John Benny Rams the episode,

1179
01:32:34.279 --> 01:32:40.479
<v Speaker 3>please skip five seconds ahead in the episode resuming. Paul

1180
01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Bannasi testified in court proceedings that he helped kidnap Johnny

1181
01:32:44.359 --> 01:32:47.399
<v Speaker 3>Gosh in nineteen eighty two, in that in nineteen eighty

1182
01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:50.760
<v Speaker 3>four July, he was forced to participate in an orgy

1183
01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:55.039
<v Speaker 3>at Bohemian Grove where a young boy was brutally raped,

1184
01:32:55.600 --> 01:33:03.640
<v Speaker 3>brutally sodomized repeatedly in the murdered but Nasi said that

1185
01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:09.079
<v Speaker 3>the killing was filmed by you guessed it, Hunter S. Thompson,

1186
01:33:10.119 --> 01:33:13.119
<v Speaker 3>who had joined their private jet flight to the West

1187
01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:18.279
<v Speaker 3>Coast in Las Vegas, and a dude named Rusty Nelson

1188
01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:22.840
<v Speaker 3>was inside the Franklin operation and believes Thompson was a

1189
01:33:22.920 --> 01:33:29.640
<v Speaker 3>loose end that had to be dealt with now. Thompson

1190
01:33:29.720 --> 01:33:33.159
<v Speaker 3>wrote on page three under the heading the new dumb

1191
01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:37.359
<v Speaker 3>in the book, Hey Rube, this is what he says. Quote.

1192
01:33:37.439 --> 01:33:43.399
<v Speaker 3>The autumn months are never a calm time in America.

1193
01:33:43.880 --> 01:33:47.680
<v Speaker 3>There is always a rash of kidnappings and abductions of

1194
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:52.920
<v Speaker 3>school children. In the football months, pre teens of both

1195
01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:56.880
<v Speaker 3>sexes are traditionally seized and grabbed off the streets by

1196
01:33:57.560 --> 01:34:02.920
<v Speaker 3>gangs of organized perverse who traditionally give them as Christmas

1197
01:34:02.920 --> 01:34:07.960
<v Speaker 3>gifts to each other to be personal sex slaves and playthings.

1198
01:34:09.720 --> 01:34:14.399
<v Speaker 1>End quote. Let me read that again, assholes.

1199
01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Quote. The autumn months are never a calm time in America.

1200
01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:24.399
<v Speaker 3>There is always a rash of kidnappings and abductions of

1201
01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:29.079
<v Speaker 3>school children. In the football months, preteens of both sexes

1202
01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:32.920
<v Speaker 3>are traditionally seized and grabbed off the streets by gangs

1203
01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:37.159
<v Speaker 3>of organized perverts who traditionally give them as Christmas gifts

1204
01:34:37.199 --> 01:34:41.119
<v Speaker 3>to each other to be personal sex slaves and playthings.

1205
01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:49.159
<v Speaker 3>In quote, you may not think that this could reach you,

1206
01:34:50.239 --> 01:34:53.840
<v Speaker 3>that this is so large, that something on this scale

1207
01:34:53.880 --> 01:34:56.720
<v Speaker 3>could reach you in your neighborhood. But I promise you

1208
01:34:56.840 --> 01:35:00.439
<v Speaker 3>it's been going on for a long time. In these

1209
01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:04.119
<v Speaker 3>disappearance of children who were never seen again, taken in

1210
01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:07.159
<v Speaker 3>the blink of an eye, and who did it? I'm

1211
01:35:07.199 --> 01:35:14.800
<v Speaker 3>telling you this is this is part of the cult.

1212
01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:19.239
<v Speaker 3>So in John Decamp's reporting of events in the Franklin

1213
01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:22.840
<v Speaker 3>cover Up, he writes on pages three hundred and twenty

1214
01:35:22.880 --> 01:35:25.399
<v Speaker 3>six and three hundred and twenty eight of his book,

1215
01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Paul Banassi, while at Bohemian Grove, claims that he and

1216
01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:34.960
<v Speaker 3>another boy were forced to perform sex acts with and

1217
01:35:35.039 --> 01:35:39.680
<v Speaker 3>to consume parts of a child whom they had watched

1218
01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:44.920
<v Speaker 3>being murdered by men in hooded robes. The body was

1219
01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:48.920
<v Speaker 3>to be disposed of by the men with the hoods

1220
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:53.000
<v Speaker 3>end quote. I'm not going to read that again because

1221
01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:57.159
<v Speaker 3>it's really sickening. But DeCamp point on to say that

1222
01:35:57.199 --> 01:36:02.239
<v Speaker 3>Banassi also claimed that a quote snuff film was made

1223
01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:07.000
<v Speaker 3>of these events. The shocker is that the man at

1224
01:36:07.039 --> 01:36:10.640
<v Speaker 3>the party who had picked him up in Las Vegas,

1225
01:36:11.640 --> 01:36:16.039
<v Speaker 3>and who had filmed the events was identified by Banasi

1226
01:36:16.720 --> 01:36:21.560
<v Speaker 3>as Hunter Thompson. But it doesn't just stop with Paul

1227
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Banassi saying this stuff about Hunter Thompson. Thompson's secretary Nicole

1228
01:36:26.680 --> 01:36:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Brown wrote that Thompson kicked her out of the house

1229
01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:36.840
<v Speaker 3>for refusing to watch a so called snuff film. She said,

1230
01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:41.079
<v Speaker 3>for weeks he played a tape recording of a jack

1231
01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:47.520
<v Speaker 3>rabbit screaming in a trap. He fetishized, being abusive to

1232
01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:51.680
<v Speaker 3>pets and animals, and liked to drive at high speeds,

1233
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:57.800
<v Speaker 3>narrowly averting cattle on rural roads near his residence. And

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01:36:57.840 --> 01:37:03.159
<v Speaker 3>that comes from Nicole Brown, previous secretary of Hunter Thompson.

1235
01:37:04.479 --> 01:37:10.399
<v Speaker 3>What a psycho piece of fucking shit bag Now. Photographer

1236
01:37:10.520 --> 01:37:15.760
<v Speaker 3>Russell Nelson claimed that Thompson offered him one hundred thousand

1237
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:20.399
<v Speaker 3>dollars to shoot a snuff film. Another man named John

1238
01:37:20.760 --> 01:37:25.680
<v Speaker 3>Todd spoke up about going to Thompson's home in Aspen, Colorado,

1239
01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:35.199
<v Speaker 3>for a human sacrifice. I'm not being theatrical here. What's

1240
01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:41.600
<v Speaker 3>going on in Colorado? By the way, So John de Camp,

1241
01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:45.279
<v Speaker 3>who exposed the Franklin scandal, also spoke with the one

1242
01:37:45.319 --> 01:37:50.239
<v Speaker 3>and only Alex Jones about Thompson's involvement with a snuff

1243
01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:56.319
<v Speaker 3>film in California's Bohemian Grove. Watching a reading Fear and

1244
01:37:56.359 --> 01:37:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Loathing in Las Vegas is enough to convince anyone of

1245
01:37:59.279 --> 01:38:03.479
<v Speaker 3>the Adrena C junkies guilt in my opinion, But I

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01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:08.960
<v Speaker 3>believe based on these testimonies in the research I've done,

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<v Speaker 3>this story of John Bennet fits the mold of the

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01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:18.439
<v Speaker 3>Christmas Eyes Wide chet party gone wrong and a horribly

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01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:23.520
<v Speaker 3>botched up cover job to follow. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to go back and revisit this episode, but

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<v Speaker 3>I myself have interviewed a survivor, doctor Julia Engel, who

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<v Speaker 3>was there, participated in the snuff films and witnessed first

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<v Speaker 3>hand these gruesome rituals. She spoke about the absolute importance

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<v Speaker 3>of Christmas for the Satanists and hunter s. Thompson did

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Should I read the quote again? Quote there

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<v Speaker 3>is always a rash of kidnappings and abductions of school

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01:38:54.439 --> 01:38:57.960
<v Speaker 3>children in the football months. Preteens of both sexes are

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01:38:57.960 --> 01:39:01.319
<v Speaker 3>traditionally seized and grabbed off the street reads by gangs

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<v Speaker 3>of organized perverts who traditionally give them as Christmas gifts

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<v Speaker 3>to each other to be personal sex slaves and playthings.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a reason why Stanley Kubrick stressed the Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>season in Eyes Wide Shut. There are so many people

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<v Speaker 3>or fans rather of Hunter S. Thompson, including my brother,

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01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:31.039
<v Speaker 3>who will legitimately fight to defend him. And it's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>let's say preposterously that he had nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 3>the snuff films or Paul Banassi. He definitely fetishized animal brutality.

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<v Speaker 3>His assistant documented in a statement his enjoyment of torturing animals.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what if you hurt animals, there is a special

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<v Speaker 3>place in the hottest Fire's pit in the Lake of

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<v Speaker 3>fucking fire for you. Someone who hurts animal should be

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<v Speaker 3>fisted with hot sauce in there. Fucking ain't as hole

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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of eternity. But anyways, there's too many

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<v Speaker 3>pieces to the puzzle coming together for me to even

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01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:17.319
<v Speaker 3>second guest that he was a part of this. I

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01:40:17.359 --> 01:40:24.359
<v Speaker 3>have watched Paul Banasi's deposition. I have watched Paul Banassi's

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<v Speaker 3>many many interviews. The guy is telling the truth. If

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<v Speaker 3>you want to watch them for yourself, they were some

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<v Speaker 3>of the first videos I ever posted on Patreon. Go

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<v Speaker 3>go watch them, Go watch them for yourself. Look at

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01:40:44.439 --> 01:40:50.319
<v Speaker 3>the guy. He looks like a nightmare, big black circles

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01:40:50.399 --> 01:40:54.680
<v Speaker 3>under his eyes. He looks like he has been to

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01:40:54.960 --> 01:41:01.760
<v Speaker 3>the seventh level of Hell and returned. I've watched them all,

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01:41:02.439 --> 01:41:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I've heard them all. I've put my own research to

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01:41:06.159 --> 01:41:10.199
<v Speaker 3>the test in time and time again, I come up

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01:41:10.239 --> 01:41:15.800
<v Speaker 3>with the same conclusions. Take this episode for what you will.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe me, don't believe me, whatever. This is my recap

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<v Speaker 3>and conclusion for the Little Miss Christmas Ritual, John Biday

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<v Speaker 3>Ramsey Part two, If you will. The more I dig

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01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:38.920
<v Speaker 3>into this case, the more that I find. And you know,

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01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:41.479
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people ask me why I continue to

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01:41:41.479 --> 01:41:44.800
<v Speaker 3>do the podcast. You know, it's so dark and depressing

1293
01:41:44.960 --> 01:41:47.239
<v Speaker 3>and it gets to you and it starts weighing down

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01:41:47.319 --> 01:41:49.920
<v Speaker 3>on you and blah blah blah, And a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people on the actual opposite side will say, how can

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<v Speaker 3>you think that everything is so demonic and satan And

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01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:04.199
<v Speaker 3>it could just be something that's absolutely unrelated, or it

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01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:07.960
<v Speaker 3>just happened to be a fluke accident or fruit whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care if you subscribe to a specific religion

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01:42:12.880 --> 01:42:14.800
<v Speaker 3>I know what I believe, and I know what I

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01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:17.359
<v Speaker 3>have found to be true for myself, and all I

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01:42:17.399 --> 01:42:19.800
<v Speaker 3>can do for each and every one of you is

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01:42:19.840 --> 01:42:23.119
<v Speaker 3>hope that you find these episodes informational. I hope they

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01:42:23.159 --> 01:42:25.319
<v Speaker 3>open your mind. I hope they spark the fire within

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01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:28.800
<v Speaker 3>you to continue to look for your own answers, because

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01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:33.119
<v Speaker 3>there is so much out there that is still yet

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01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:37.840
<v Speaker 3>to be discovered. And you know, a lot of things

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01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:40.520
<v Speaker 3>frustrate me when I talk to people about this podcast,

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01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:44.439
<v Speaker 3>but at the end of the day, I am completely

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<v Speaker 3>dedicated to bringing the truth the best way I know

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<v Speaker 3>how to each and every one of you, and I

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<v Speaker 3>hope that you, oddly as it sounds, enjoyed this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's a hard episode to listen to, but

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you got something out of it. I hope

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01:42:57.840 --> 01:42:59.800
<v Speaker 3>that it was the conclusion you were looking for for

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01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:02.560
<v Speaker 3>the John Binne Ramsey case. Of course, you can't go

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<v Speaker 3>back and listen to the first episode for another even

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01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:07.880
<v Speaker 3>more completely different view on it. I think you can

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01:43:07.960 --> 01:43:10.880
<v Speaker 3>mix both of these episodes together to really get the

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01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:15.279
<v Speaker 3>full view of what's going on here. And I hope

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<v Speaker 3>you all had a beautiful, wonderful Christmas and enjoyed lots

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01:43:18.199 --> 01:43:21.720
<v Speaker 3>of food and love from your family and friends. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope you got all of the presence you wanted, and

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01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:30.439
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four is gonna be absolutely incredible. There's gonna

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01:43:30.439 --> 01:43:33.119
<v Speaker 3>be a lot of changes coming to the podcast. I

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01:43:33.159 --> 01:43:37.960
<v Speaker 3>think you're gonna love all of them. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>things in life need a certain balance. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>you listen to an episode like this, it gets you

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01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:48.439
<v Speaker 3>a little disheartened, maybe gets you a little black build

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01:43:48.439 --> 01:43:51.720
<v Speaker 3>there's no hope left in the world. But then you

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<v Speaker 3>listen to another one of the episodes, it's a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more lighthearted, little bit more comedic relief, kind of

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01:43:58.279 --> 01:43:59.880
<v Speaker 3>takes you out of the zone. Maybe you listen to

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01:43:59.880 --> 01:44:04.039
<v Speaker 3>a ghost episode or a true crime episode. And in

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01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:08.359
<v Speaker 3>the end, it's all about finding that balance and remaining hopeful.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can't help but to be hopeful when you're

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01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:15.600
<v Speaker 3>feeling love from your family. So that's all I could

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<v Speaker 3>hope for you for Christmas this year is you just

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01:44:17.560 --> 01:44:23.560
<v Speaker 3>feel loved and you feel on fire this year for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four, now think of it like this. This

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01:44:28.079 --> 01:44:30.000
<v Speaker 3>is my forest gumpism.

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<v Speaker 1>If you will.

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<v Speaker 3>When you eat a bowl of beny wheats, you gotta

1344
01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:40.760
<v Speaker 3>have the perfect amount of milk to wheat ratio. Okay,

1345
01:44:40.840 --> 01:44:42.760
<v Speaker 3>let's talk about that. You put too much milk, you

1346
01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:45.760
<v Speaker 3>got soggy wheats, and then all the icings melted off

1347
01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:47.199
<v Speaker 3>your wheat, and then you don't want to eat the

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01:44:47.239 --> 01:44:50.439
<v Speaker 3>wheat because it's a soggy piece of shit. At that point,

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01:44:50.720 --> 01:44:53.000
<v Speaker 3>you don't put enough milk. You choked to death on

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01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:56.600
<v Speaker 3>a fragment of the wheat thin itself. So you have

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<v Speaker 3>to find the perfect wheat to milk ratio. And that's

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01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:02.039
<v Speaker 3>what I hope to do here on my podcast is

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01:45:02.079 --> 01:45:07.319
<v Speaker 3>give you a nice mix of paranormal true crime, conspiracy theory, comedy,

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01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:11.199
<v Speaker 3>horror movies, you name it. And thank you so much

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<v Speaker 3>for supporting the show as usual. I hope you're enjoying

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<v Speaker 3>the milk to wheat ratio if you will, And until

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<v Speaker 3>next time, thank you all so much for listening. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>check out Room two three seven that's the Cosmic Peach

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<v Speaker 3>Patreon to watch the Paul Binossi deposition and interviews, as

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01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:34.760
<v Speaker 3>well as so much more bonus content and behind the

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<v Speaker 3>scenes features. With that being said, Merry Christmas, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>all so much for listening, and I will catch you

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<v Speaker 3>on the next one,
