Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's radio.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope you did better in the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: than the Kansas City Chiefs did. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 2: It was a blowout win for the Philadelphia Eagles. Correct
Speaker 2: spelling E A G L. E. S. Note to the
Speaker 2: Mayor of Philadelphia on that. My name is Dan Ray,
Speaker 2: host of Nightside. I enjoyed watching the game last night
Speaker 2: until it became a runaway, and I suspect most of
Speaker 2: you did as well. We have lots to talk about tonight.
Speaker 2: We will get to the big game. We'll get to
Speaker 2: the end of the game. We'll get to the ads,
Speaker 2: the TV ads. There were some good ones, some bad ones,
Speaker 2: some ones that are totally in memorable. We'll talk about
Speaker 2: the halftime show, which was interesting, to say the least.
Speaker 2: We have so much to cover tonight. We'll also talk
Speaker 2: about the soon to be layoffs sadly at mass General Hospital.
Speaker 2: Looks as if the el at Mass General We're going
Speaker 2: to take them quite quite a cut in jobs. We'll
Speaker 2: get to all of that. That story was broken by
Speaker 2: The Boston Globe today and is following on our Globe theme.
Speaker 2: I will tell you that I'm Dan Ray hosted Nightside.
Speaker 2: Rob Brooks is back in the control room and our
Speaker 2: first guest tonight none other than Emily Sweeney from the
Speaker 2: Boston Globe, who wrote a really interesting piece that was
Speaker 2: in the Boston Globe on January thirty first, the last
Speaker 2: day of January. I'm just well about ten days ago
Speaker 2: now when I do the math on this, when travel
Speaker 2: was treacherous for black people, the Green Books legacy in
Speaker 2: New England. Emily Sweeney, Welcome back to Nightside.
Speaker 3: How are you good, Dan, Hey, thanks so much for
Speaker 3: having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you coming on in. That is for sure.
Speaker 2: There was the movie The Green Book that starred Morgan Freeman,
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken a few years ago.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, so there was a green Book movie was
Speaker 3: you know, based on you know, this concept which was
Speaker 3: you know a real thing.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
Speaker 3: Green Books were you know, really important to people of
Speaker 3: color who were traveling from the thirties through up through
Speaker 3: the sixties. And you know, there were some digitized you know,
Speaker 3: they got digitized and I started like looking through these
Speaker 3: green Books and I was amazed to see just how
Speaker 3: many locations there were all over New England. In Boston
Speaker 3: and beyond, and you know, I approached some editors at
Speaker 3: The Globe and mentioned it, and you know, we put
Speaker 3: together an amazing team to put together this Green Book project,
Speaker 3: which is like an interactive map of all the locations,
Speaker 3: and you know, and we launched it in time for
Speaker 3: Black History months.
Speaker 2: So now it's now the movie The Green Book, which
Speaker 2: came out a few years ago. I mean, that's it's been.
Speaker 2: I was produced, I was directed, I guess by Peter Farley,
Speaker 2: a local guy here in New England. But it was
Speaker 2: released in twenty eighteen, and it was it was a
Speaker 2: great movie. I enjoyed it. It was it was great history.
Speaker 2: But it was really focused on the South, on the
Speaker 2: Jim Crow South, and here in Massachusetts or New England.
Speaker 2: You guys discovered that the same problem exists, even existed
Speaker 2: even into the nineteen sixties throughout New England.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I mean, Dan, I looked up a lot
Speaker 3: of stories and the other reporters who worked on this
Speaker 3: project as well. You know, you know, you think of
Speaker 3: you know, Jim Crow, you know, laws and things like that,
Speaker 3: and you think of that as like being like a
Speaker 3: Southern thing, but it really was across the country, you know,
Speaker 3: and it wasn't that long ago if you think about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, there were stories in the globe of you know,
Speaker 3: black college professors being turned away having reservations well in
Speaker 3: advance for hotels. There was a hotel up in Haveril
Speaker 3: that you know turned away, you know, a college professor
Speaker 3: who is here to speak for a conference, you know,
Speaker 3: just because of the color of his skin, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's anyway, you know. I was just surprised us to
Speaker 3: see how many Green Book locations there were. And you know,
Speaker 3: there have been other people who have you know, tried
Speaker 3: to you know, map these out There are a lot
Speaker 3: of scholars out there who have been, you know, documenting
Speaker 3: these sites. But we tried to really jill down and
Speaker 3: get every single location, like the exact location where they existed.
Speaker 3: And it's been quite it's been an amazing experience because
Speaker 3: I've contacted a lot of historical societies and local folks,
Speaker 3: you know, and some of these towns, a lot of
Speaker 3: people didn't even know that these places existed right in
Speaker 3: their backyards.
Speaker 2: So I see that you have a map that's associated
Speaker 2: with you story. So overall, again, give us just a
Speaker 2: rough idea how many locations were you able to identify.
Speaker 3: Over over three hundred and fifty, just over three hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty.
Speaker 2: And these were both were both restaurants and hotels or
Speaker 2: these primarily hotels.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And actually I should have been more clear too,
Speaker 3: because you know, there wasn't just hotels. It was restaurants,
Speaker 3: it was gas stations, it was you know, garages, it
Speaker 3: was beauty polas. You know, there were so many beauty
Speaker 3: pilas back in the day, like fifties and sixties that
Speaker 3: were you know, owned by black women all over the
Speaker 3: South End. And you know, so it's pretty much all
Speaker 3: types of businesses anything anything you'd need if you were
Speaker 3: on the road, you know what I mean, like barbers, tailors,
Speaker 3: you know, drug stores and one cool thing we're going
Speaker 3: to be doing too, just to tie this together, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of bridging you know, history past the present.
Speaker 3: On February twenty fifth, the Globe is going to be
Speaker 3: hosting a event at Roxbury Community College and with and
Speaker 3: we're going to have like a kind of a panel
Speaker 3: of speakers and just talking about the importance of black
Speaker 3: owned businesses and you know, how the community is doing today.
Speaker 3: And so that should be a really good discussion as well.
Speaker 3: That's February twenty fifth, and there's information about it on
Speaker 3: our website if you're interested in checking it out, So.
Speaker 2: If folks want to, if they missed the piece on
Speaker 2: January thirty first, it's titled when when travel was treacherous
Speaker 2: for Black people? The Green Books Legacy in New England.
Speaker 2: If they just probably google Green Book in Boston Globe,
Speaker 2: they'll they'll find this. Yeah, we think of ourselves in
Speaker 2: New England as sort of the abolitionist you know, base
Speaker 2: of the Northern universe. How did did these institutions, these
Speaker 2: these these restaurants and beautyful, honest and all that did
Speaker 2: they increase in New England? There was a pretty big
Speaker 2: migration of black people from the South towards you know,
Speaker 2: towards New England because we thought of as being a
Speaker 2: little bit more tolerant. But is it was it automobile
Speaker 2: travel that, you know, the mobility what prompted the need
Speaker 2: for the Green Book? Besides you know what, there must
Speaker 2: have been something like the arrival of the automobile. You know,
Speaker 2: most people in the eighteen hundreds probably never traveled more
Speaker 2: than twenty or thirty miles from.
Speaker 3: Their home yeah, yeah, you know there absolutely, you know
Speaker 3: that that definitely played the you know, the car and like,
Speaker 3: you know, people being able to travel and go on
Speaker 3: road trips with you know, take their families on vacations
Speaker 3: absolutely was a big portion of this. And also you
Speaker 3: know business travel, you know what I mean, business trips,
Speaker 3: you know, speaking engagements. Yeah, so you know, and another
Speaker 3: interesting thing is like we found what we found out
Speaker 3: was you know, the the Green Book, you know, kind
Speaker 3: of the most famous black travel guide that we know
Speaker 3: that was started by Victor H. Green in in the
Speaker 3: late nineteen thirties. There was actually a predecessor to that
Speaker 3: that was written by a woman in Connecticut that came
Speaker 3: out in nineteen thirty and she compiled all the hotels
Speaker 3: and places she could find that you know, were you know,
Speaker 3: absolutely welcoming of people of color. And it was interesting
Speaker 3: to see a lot of her listings, you know, were
Speaker 3: in Victor Green's Green Book, you know when when and
Speaker 3: that and that one. You know, Thetyed you know, had
Speaker 3: a lot of publishing power, you know, millions of people
Speaker 3: and you know was around for decades up until the sixties.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say you know that the focus
Speaker 3: was it you know, you know, Victor Green kind of
Speaker 3: put it as like, you know, be uh, you know,
Speaker 3: vacationing without aggregation, you know, and that was putting in
Speaker 3: my you know, because you know, obviously, you know, people
Speaker 3: of color could face like, you know, dangerous situations even
Speaker 3: if they went into the wrong spot. And this was
Speaker 3: kind of a roadmap, a really important guide, you know,
Speaker 3: almost about I hope folks will go.
Speaker 2: Back and find the Globe piece if they haven't read
Speaker 2: it as yet. And also I would highly recommend the
Speaker 2: movie Green Book. Watched it a few years ago. Is
Speaker 2: actually set being reminded, as they say, look at it
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty two. I was mistaken for some reason.
Speaker 2: I thought Morgan Freeman had a role in that. The
Speaker 2: star of the movie was an actor named Marshalla Ali
Speaker 2: who depicted this concert pianist who doctor Dawn Shirley, who
Speaker 2: was an African American pianist who was in the need
Speaker 2: of a driver for this concert tour of the Midwest
Speaker 2: and South in the nineteen sixty two So it's not
Speaker 2: all that far away and not that long ago that
Speaker 2: Green Book was sadly unfortunately necessary. Emily Sweeney, as always,
Speaker 2: you always bring great, great topics to our program. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much.
Speaker 3: Oh thanks for having me, Dan, I appreciate it absolutely.
Speaker 2: Talk soon when we get back, we will have another
Speaker 2: fine guest. My name is Dan Ray. This is nights.
Speaker 2: I did a little bit of a hurried up introduction
Speaker 2: of Emily because there was so much to get there. Again,
Speaker 2: that movie Green Book. The Green Book is a great
Speaker 2: movie to watch. It's educational, historic, et cetera. When we
Speaker 2: get back, when I talk about American Heart Month, which
Speaker 2: of course is February Valentine's Day, and all of that,
Speaker 2: and we will talk about how to un choose the
Speaker 2: best eating plan for people concerned about their heart health,
Speaker 2: which should be everyone. We'll be back on Nightside. My
Speaker 2: name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside on WBZ, Boston's news
Speaker 2: radio ten thirty in the AM dial, Boston's news radio
Speaker 2: station WBZAM.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray, live from the window World
Speaker 1: Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We're joined by Gretchel Schuller Schuler, US World of News
Speaker 2: Reports Managing Health Editor. Gretel I said, Gretchel, I meant
Speaker 2: to say, Gretel I apologize.
Speaker 4: Okay, Hi Dan, thanks for having me. Good.
Speaker 2: How are you nice to make your acquaintance great. This
Speaker 2: is American Heart Month February twenty twenty five, and we're
Speaker 2: going to talking about some of the top heart health diets.
Speaker 2: My first question is, and this is a generic general question,
Speaker 2: but has the heart health diet or the heart health
Speaker 2: diets have they changed over time? Oftentimes the food pyramid changes.
Speaker 2: You know, people will always I'm sure a kid with
Speaker 2: you and say, first they told us you're supposed to
Speaker 2: eat this, and then they said don't eat. That is
Speaker 2: what we're talking about here. Top health heart diets. Are
Speaker 2: they diets that people should be following and should have
Speaker 2: been following for years.
Speaker 4: I mean the short answer to that is yes. I mean,
Speaker 4: the basic science of what makes a heart healthy diet
Speaker 4: hasn't changed a whole lot. If there's some nuance that,
Speaker 4: I don't want to get too much into the weeds
Speaker 4: in terms of like dietary cholesterol like people. This is
Speaker 4: a great example. People used to think that eggs were
Speaker 4: pure evil when it came to heart, you know, heart health.
Speaker 4: But now they're finding that, you know, even people with
Speaker 4: you know, higher cholesterol levels, for example, it's okay for
Speaker 4: them to have an egg or to you know, on
Speaker 4: a regular basis. They're not as evil as that. You know,
Speaker 4: we're once made out to be the dietary cholesterol.
Speaker 2: They're no longer evil. They're just expensive. Go ahead, I
Speaker 2: didn't mean to that is true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so maybe another reason not to eat them. But
Speaker 4: in terms of heart health they're okay. Yeah, But just
Speaker 4: generally speaking, there's no that's okay. But generally speaking, there
Speaker 4: are some sort of basic tenets when it comes to
Speaker 4: you know, look for a heart healthy diet, and one
Speaker 4: of the big ones is fat.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: You know, there's good fats and there's bad fats, and
Speaker 4: the bad fats those are like what we call saturated
Speaker 4: or trans fats. Those are the ones that are proven,
Speaker 4: you know, scientifically to raise cholesterol, including you know, the
Speaker 4: so called LDL bad cholesterol, and it can increase the
Speaker 4: risk of heart disease. That's pretty well established. But at
Speaker 4: the same time, you know, not all fats are created
Speaker 4: egle eat equal, and there are actually some fats that
Speaker 4: are good for you. And good fats are ones that
Speaker 4: are what they call uninsaturated fats. So those would be
Speaker 4: ones like found in olive oil or avocado or salmon
Speaker 4: or nuts and seeds for example.
Speaker 2: And those all the stuff, all the stuff, all the
Speaker 2: stuff that tastes good, you can probably.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to try and convince you that there
Speaker 4: are heart healthy foods that are all so delicious. That's okay,
Speaker 4: my goal. You're going to tell me avocados, right, Yes, salmon,
Speaker 4: So you could have a delicious dish of like roasted
Speaker 4: salmon with a little olive oil dribbled on it. You
Speaker 4: could have a side of brown rice or quinoa that
Speaker 4: would work too, you know, for a dessert. You know,
Speaker 4: ideally you try to minimize the sweets as they're inflammatory
Speaker 4: for your heart, but you could have like watermelon with
Speaker 4: some feta cheese on top. Any kind of fruit actually
Speaker 4: would do. It's again, it's a lot a lot of
Speaker 4: it is about moderation. Fiber is another thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ok, serious dark chocolate, right, so you're.
Speaker 4: Right that dark chocolate, and the darker the better. So
Speaker 4: not you know, the Hershey's bars or the Cadberry bars,
Speaker 4: the milk chocolate, that's not going to do it. But
Speaker 4: dark chocolate, the more cacao, the high or the percentage
Speaker 4: the better, actually has antioxidant effects. So again, everything in moderation.
Speaker 4: So it has been found to have heart health benefits.
Speaker 4: So if you're thinking of Valentine's Day coming up and
Speaker 4: you want to give someone some chocolate, it may not
Speaker 4: be their favorite, but dark chocolate could work. You could
Speaker 4: put that on the list.
Speaker 2: No, I have some dark chocolate every night for desserts.
Speaker 5: That's a great choice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it tastes good too.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So realistically here, what percentage of Americans do you think
Speaker 2: now are much more cognizant of what you're talking about
Speaker 2: than maybe we were twenty or thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, the sobering statistic is that, you know,
Speaker 4: heart disease is probably one of the leading causes of
Speaker 4: death when it comes in adults in the US, especially
Speaker 4: when it comes to sort of chronic diet related diseases. It's,
Speaker 4: in fact, according to the CDC, the Center for Disease
Speaker 4: Control and Prevention, it's the number one cause of death
Speaker 4: for men and women. And yet at the same time,
Speaker 4: you know, science says that about eighty percent of premature
Speaker 4: heart attacks and strokes are preventable. And there is I think,
Speaker 4: and people I think are being able to recognize us
Speaker 4: that that there's a strong connection between the foods we
Speaker 4: eat and our health. And the good news is we
Speaker 4: can't improve our heart health, you know, with the right
Speaker 4: foods and avoiding you know, the wrong foods.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is It's a challenge, There's no
Speaker 2: doubt about it. But it certainly is something that that
Speaker 2: we should aspire to. Is there anything in recent US
Speaker 2: News and World Report that you could cite for folks
Speaker 2: that they could find? It's one thing for to talk
Speaker 2: about it. Very few people out there are taking notes
Speaker 2: right now, but I'm just writing right Is there something
Speaker 2: at the US News and World's Report World Reports website
Speaker 2: that you could refer my listeners to?
Speaker 4: Absolutely so, just for a little context, you know, we
Speaker 4: here at US News and World Report, we have been
Speaker 4: evaluating diets for fifteen years and we have a team
Speaker 4: of sixty nine experts. These are doctors as well as
Speaker 4: dietitians who evaluate, you know, a long list of eating plans,
Speaker 4: and one of the categories they evaluate are the best
Speaker 4: heart healthy diets. So if you want the full list
Speaker 4: of the best heart healthy diets, you can read about
Speaker 4: those diets as well as sort of high level tips
Speaker 4: to you know, eat heart healthy. Usnews dot com backslash
Speaker 4: best slash hyphen diet, and you will see not only
Speaker 4: the list of best heart healthy diets, but also best
Speaker 4: diets to lower cholesterol and the best diets to lower
Speaker 4: blood pressure.
Speaker 5: So as well as we have a.
Speaker 4: Total of eleven different health goals that you can look at,
Speaker 4: everything from lowering fatty liver to losing weight to improving
Speaker 4: brain health.
Speaker 6: So we have those there.
Speaker 2: Just give me that website, Yeah more.
Speaker 4: Time, sure Usnews dot com backslash best hyphen diet.
Speaker 2: Perfect perfect that way everyone don't have a chance to
Speaker 2: write it down dot com slash best diet, Gretel, Thank
Speaker 2: you very much. Great information tonight. And I try to
Speaker 2: make this sometimes a little bit more, uh, you know, conversational,
Speaker 2: and I hope I didn't interject myself too much. But
Speaker 2: this is something no note at all, you know, something
Speaker 2: that I take really seriously. And I had some advice
Speaker 2: from a doctor many years ago that doc, chocolate is
Speaker 2: good for you. So I try to work that in
Speaker 2: because it tastes great too. I try to work that
Speaker 2: into every one of these interviews we do. And you've
Speaker 2: been a great sport and I love Yeah News and
Speaker 2: World Report. It's a great magazine and it's a website
Speaker 2: now I realize, but I can remember reading it as
Speaker 2: a magazine. You guys no longer publish correct me if
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. I just want to make sure I'm right,
Speaker 2: do you guys?
Speaker 4: We do publish an annual issue which includes Best Hospitals
Speaker 4: as well as some diet and nutrition information and some
Speaker 4: other stories in it. But yes, we are largely now online.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again put it on folks. Check it out
Speaker 2: usnews dot com or usnews dot com slash Best hyphen Diet.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us tonight, and we'll
Speaker 2: talk again.
Speaker 4: Absolutely happy to be here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much. Have a great night. Good night.
Speaker 2: When we get back and we talk about the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: You know, it was only like twenty four hours ago
Speaker 2: they were still playing. Some people thought Kansas City still
Speaker 2: had a chance. We're going to talk with Christina Basilio
Speaker 2: about the Google trends that what people and this is
Speaker 2: kind of a little preview of what we're gonna do
Speaker 2: later on tonight at ten o'clock as well. So stay
Speaker 2: with us back right after the news here at the
Speaker 2: bottom of the hour on night Side.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray ONBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, it was last night twenty four hours ago, and
Speaker 2: that the Philadelphia Eagles were demolishing the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2: And here is Google trends expert Christina Basilio. Christina's been
Speaker 2: with us before. Welcome back, Christina, how are you.
Speaker 6: I'm great, so great to be back.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much. You're following what people were googling last night,
Speaker 2: And let's talk about terms, and did people not know
Speaker 2: some of the football terms? It seemed to be a
Speaker 2: lot of googling of references that the announcers were making
Speaker 2: that I thought most people would know what they were
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a really interesting trend that we saw yesterday.
Speaker 6: There were searches for things like what is a pick six?
Speaker 6: What is a penalty? To things like even what is
Speaker 6: a first down? So it seems like maybe there's a
Speaker 6: newer fans we are attracted to football. Maybe we just
Speaker 6: wanted to get a better understanding of the game itself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess if you've never watched a
Speaker 2: football game in your life, you know the concept of
Speaker 2: a pick six would be WHOA. I was pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: But obviously there was that d back from the Eagles
Speaker 2: that I guess on his twenty second birthday. His last
Speaker 2: name was Dejene. He intercepted the pass and ran it
Speaker 2: back for a touchdown, only became the second player in
Speaker 2: the history of the championship game. I guess it had
Speaker 2: never been done in the Super Bowl before, but it
Speaker 2: was done by Steve Van Buren way back, like in
Speaker 2: the nineteen forties. So you had those topics which people
Speaker 2: didn't understand when the commercials have. The commercials were an
Speaker 2: interesting mix, and we're going to talk about this later
Speaker 2: on the show and talk to callers during the ten
Speaker 2: o'clock hour. But I thought some of the commercials were
Speaker 2: really clever. I thought that the David Beckham the two
Speaker 2: David commercial was clever. But I thought of them really
Speaker 2: were flat. What did you think of the commercials as
Speaker 2: a whole, and then give us a couple that you
Speaker 2: liked and a couple that you thought fell flat.
Speaker 6: Perhaps, Yeah, So the commercials are always really interesting and
Speaker 6: something that we've noticed year every years, you did so
Speaker 6: many cameos. So the book dot com commercial that had
Speaker 6: the muppets, that one seems like it really played up
Speaker 6: on like things that are funny. Of course, I had
Speaker 6: to talk about the Google Pixel commercial that talks about
Speaker 6: how to use Gemini to do something like heartwarming, like
Speaker 6: really nail that interview and that storyline was really great
Speaker 6: to see. But there's just also really cool concept that
Speaker 6: I've been seeing and it's kind of like the trailer
Speaker 6: commercial that shows and so I don't know if you
Speaker 6: caught the Duncan commercial that was kind of like the
Speaker 6: sixty second ad. But then if you go to YouTube,
Speaker 6: they actually have a seven minutes and they're calling it
Speaker 6: like a Duncan movie commercial to get folks to really
Speaker 6: lean in and see more of what they're trying to
Speaker 6: talk about and get people excited about the brand. So
Speaker 6: it was really interesting to see the different ways that
Speaker 6: people and brands decided to use commercials this year.
Speaker 2: So here's my question. I love Duncans. It's a Duncan,
Speaker 2: so I do love the donuts too, but I love
Speaker 2: Duncans every day. Start with the Duncan. What do you
Speaker 2: think it cost Duncans to run that commercial? How many
Speaker 2: millions of dollars?
Speaker 6: That's a great question. I do not know. I know
Speaker 6: those spots go for millions of dollars and I don't
Speaker 6: have a guestimate to share for you, but I'm sure
Speaker 6: that someone had to really invest in what they wanted
Speaker 6: to do, and I hope they get a return on
Speaker 6: that investment.
Speaker 2: Well, see, here's the question I have about it is this,
Speaker 2: I've heard like three to five million dollars just to
Speaker 2: air the commercial. So then the question becomes becomes, I
Speaker 2: assuming that Ben Affleck and Bill Belichick on not giving up,
Speaker 2: you know, some of the very valuable time as well
Speaker 2: as their their name and their recognition endorsing the product,
Speaker 2: what do you think it costs to produce a commercial
Speaker 2: like that?
Speaker 6: It has to be millions of dollars, it has to
Speaker 6: be millions, And I'm pretty so that they have an
Speaker 6: entire like strategy around it, not only just that one
Speaker 6: spot that they're gonna land, but how do they get
Speaker 6: more legs out of it? And I think Duncan did
Speaker 6: the really create a thing of using all of that
Speaker 6: digital capital that they probably invested into that production to
Speaker 6: get a longer life. You know that thirty second add
Speaker 6: for millions with that seven minute spot, that's going to
Speaker 6: really invest for people to see it over and over again.
Speaker 2: So then the question is how many extra cups of
Speaker 2: coffee and donuts does Duncan have to sell, you know,
Speaker 2: to justify that expense. That's what boggles my mind. Does
Speaker 2: it boggle your mind?
Speaker 6: I mean they had to do something right because they
Speaker 6: have you and I talking about it right now, and
Speaker 6: all of our listeners are now thinking about it.
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess. Okay, let's talk about the halftime show. Now.
Speaker 2: You may or may not know this, but I'm not
Speaker 2: a huge Wrap fan, and I actually had trouble following
Speaker 2: the lyrics. What was what was the general public reaction
Speaker 2: to that extravaganza dance and musical performance.
Speaker 6: So that's really interesting. So Kendrick Lamar instead were the
Speaker 6: halftime show participants, so we did have a good group
Speaker 6: of folks. We saw some search interests in Kendrick Lamar's lyrics,
Speaker 6: the songs like Squabble Up and Not like Us. People
Speaker 6: were trying to figure out maybe one are the words
Speaker 6: songs they could jam alongside. One of the really cool
Speaker 6: search trends that popped up for me, and it happened
Speaker 6: for me when I watched the game too, was is
Speaker 6: that Serena Williams That was actually the breakout search during
Speaker 6: halftime because I don't know if you saw that she
Speaker 6: was there on the stage dancing, having a good time,
Speaker 6: and it seems like we all were like, wait, is
Speaker 6: that Serena? So that was a really cool search to
Speaker 6: see too, was.
Speaker 2: From what I from from what I understand, is that
Speaker 2: do we know for sure one way or the other?
Speaker 6: I thought it was Yeah, it was Serena.
Speaker 2: She was.
Speaker 6: Time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I felt like if they had passed out song
Speaker 2: sheet lyrics to the entire country, you know, it would
Speaker 2: have been better. I noticed there was no closed caption?
Speaker 2: How could close caption stick with that? These are the
Speaker 2: sort of questions that come into my mind, Christina, And
Speaker 2: I know it's a weird mind, but I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: where's closed captions when I need it?
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 6: It's almost like if they would have given us a
Speaker 6: print out of what was going to come for the show,
Speaker 6: then we all should have got prepared a little all
Speaker 6: know when to sing along?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's you know, when when my
Speaker 2: my wife watches you know, the British theatrical productions and
Speaker 2: even though I'm speaking English, I really don't get what
Speaker 2: they're saying because of the accent and whatever. It was
Speaker 2: just tough to follow last night. And how about the game,
Speaker 2: It was not one of the great Super Bowl games
Speaker 2: of history. There's there's no doubt about that. I can't
Speaker 2: remember a game where it was such a bowout that early.
Speaker 2: What what sort of reviews did the game itself get? Oh?
Speaker 6: That was actually one of our breakout searches for the
Speaker 6: game was what is the largest comeback? And when was
Speaker 6: the largest comeback? So folks were wondering that he Patriots
Speaker 6: way that the Eagles performed in the first half.
Speaker 2: New England Patriots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, but yeah, that was the.
Speaker 2: That was the comeback, right Atlanta and the Patriots.
Speaker 6: Yeah. And then there was another one with the Miami
Speaker 6: Vikings who came back and beat the Cults. I think
Speaker 6: they had a thirty three point deficit in the first
Speaker 6: half and ended up winning in overtime. So it was
Speaker 6: something that people were really interested in to see if
Speaker 6: the Chiefs would have it in them, and unfortunately they
Speaker 6: didn't this time.
Speaker 2: Maybe in a football game, but I don't know that
Speaker 2: there's ever been anything beyond what the Patriots get back
Speaker 2: from a twenty five point deficit late in the game.
Speaker 2: So we think about it as obviously we all were
Speaker 2: rooting for Philadelphia because we didn't want the luster of
Speaker 2: the Patriots run to be you know, in any way,
Speaker 2: shape or form over overshadowed by the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Now we're kind of like a regional group here in
Speaker 2: New England. We get a little you know, a little touchy,
Speaker 2: you know, defending at the Patriots and and what they
Speaker 2: accomplished compared to you know, but whatever it was, it's
Speaker 2: always fun. The Super Bowl is always fun. So you
Speaker 2: watched it? Did you watch it as a fan? Or
Speaker 2: were you already googling all of this stuff? Just am interested?
Speaker 6: So the fun part is I do watch it as
Speaker 6: a fan, but then I am googling stuff myself. My
Speaker 6: friends and I are having the conversation and after the
Speaker 6: game when we look at the trends and see what
Speaker 6: was like top of mind for folks. It is fun
Speaker 6: to see when like maybe things I was looking up
Speaker 6: like Tom Brady's watch, like everyone else was looking that
Speaker 6: up to, or looking up Serena, or looking at things
Speaker 6: about Kendrick. It is fun to see how like everyday thing,
Speaker 6: not just as someone who does the trends and looks
Speaker 6: at those things that we see all the time, but
Speaker 6: as an individual, as a human being. What we're all
Speaker 6: kind of on the same page.
Speaker 2: Don't take me wrong when I say this, but what
Speaker 2: you're really saying is the normal people are doing this
Speaker 2: as well, is what the experts were doing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm just teasing with you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to have fun. We did, That's all Christite.
Speaker 2: I hope you know me well enough at this point.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for being with us today and love
Speaker 2: to have you back as soon as possible. Your great guest,
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Thank you.
Speaker 6: Have a great night, everybody.
Speaker 2: All right, good night. When we come back, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about something called micro romancing or micro romancing.
Speaker 2: I guess it's micromancing. Uh. It's it's a new trend. Uh,
Speaker 2: and guys are gonna love it, believe it or not.
Speaker 2: So stick with us, guys. Valentine's Day is just around
Speaker 2: the corner. Actually it's on Friday. We'll be back on
Speaker 2: Nightside after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ the News Radio.
Speaker 2: I learned a new word today, mic romancing. We're gonna
Speaker 2: understand what micromancing is with my next guest, Jennifer Steyer.
Speaker 2: She's a dating and relationship expert and founder of Lovability,
Speaker 2: a game changing app that's poised to revolutionize the way
Speaker 2: revolutionize the way singles connect. Jennifer, where were you and
Speaker 2: I were single? Let me tell you this. This sounds
Speaker 2: like it's a great thing for men. Uh, Men, don't
Speaker 2: be intimidated by this. Explain to us what is micromancing.
Speaker 5: Well, it's kind of getting back to old fashioned courting
Speaker 5: without all the complications and the expense. So we've really
Speaker 5: come we've kind of come full circle. I think covid
Speaker 5: was something that really really did a good thing for
Speaker 5: relationships and helped getting people right on track and get
Speaker 5: them on purpose intentional about finding love. And it's just
Speaker 5: it's we're really just been moving further and further into this, uh,
Speaker 5: this level of authenticity and dating and relationships. Now then
Speaker 5: we're closer than we've ever been.
Speaker 2: I think to that, Well, what's interesting when I when
Speaker 2: I finished with my last guest, I said, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about micro romancing, And I said, guys, you're
Speaker 2: going to like this. Yeah? Am I right? When I
Speaker 2: say that guys are going to lie? It sounds like
Speaker 2: one of those terms where a lot of guys are saying,
Speaker 2: oh no, what that is, you know, I remember microma anything.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's just as a term. It might
Speaker 2: initially be a little intimidating, but guys, this is good
Speaker 2: for you, right, it is good.
Speaker 5: Here's the trick.
Speaker 4: It's slippery slope though, guys, because.
Speaker 2: Though you don't always, it always is.
Speaker 5: I'm giving you the tip. So it's it's one thing
Speaker 5: to be able to take your foot off the gas.
Speaker 5: It's little gestures. It's not a bouquet of flowers, it's
Speaker 5: one special flower. It's not an expensive dinner out. It's
Speaker 5: a night in the park with with a picnic, right,
Speaker 5: and a bottle of wine. It's the it's little things, gestures,
Speaker 5: bringing her cup of coffee in the middle of her day.
Speaker 5: Just little things that are that go a long way.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: But the problem is, here's the slippery slope. If you
Speaker 5: don't do enough, and you don't know what she likes
Speaker 5: and what she wants and what she needs, and you're
Speaker 5: not speaking her love language when you're doing it, she's
Speaker 5: going to see you as either being laid and then
Speaker 5: let you go, or you know, just just not breadcrumbing her.
Speaker 5: That's an old term where you're just kind of you know,
Speaker 5: emotionally unavailable. So you just have to make sure that
Speaker 5: you're engaged well.
Speaker 2: Well instead of being lazy. The guys if if you
Speaker 2: don't do this right, you might be perceived as being cheap.
Speaker 2: That too, that to you. Yeah, I just want to give.
Speaker 2: I want to you know, sort of read them, Miranda
Speaker 2: writes to them here if you know, if you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, just so that they don't, you know,
Speaker 2: get into trouble. So how did this So this came
Speaker 2: out of COVID, said, you're telling me that I thought
Speaker 2: that in COVID nobody was dating at all because everyone
Speaker 2: was afraid they're going to get infected by someone else.
Speaker 5: Yes, but what happened true. But what happened is everybody
Speaker 5: kind of went to on to the FaceTime and so
Speaker 5: people were facetiming and they were having more meaningful conversation.
Speaker 5: And so it's just been kind of moving slowly more
Speaker 5: in that direction. Plus you look at social media, you
Speaker 5: know the gen zs, they're all moving off of the
Speaker 5: dating apps. They're all going to TikTok and to YouTube
Speaker 5: influencers because they want that connection, they want that authenticity,
Speaker 5: they want the story. So it's just it's the trend
Speaker 5: now to get to what's real, which I love as
Speaker 5: a dating coach because it's where I've been going for
Speaker 5: such a long time. These people have been on these
Speaker 5: swiping apps where you like, in seconds and seconds, they're
Speaker 5: swiping on away a face that might be a great
Speaker 5: match for them because they don't like their face. And
Speaker 5: that's not what love is.
Speaker 2: And we all know that, right, and so what is
Speaker 2: There was a song about that, actually what love is? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember that one. Tell me what is the advantage then,
Speaker 2: of some of the apps TikTok and such you mentioned?
Speaker 2: It just gives you more time? I am theods As
Speaker 2: opposed to swiping and going through fifty you know, fifty
Speaker 2: potential dates in in half an hour, you actually can
Speaker 2: spend maybe fifteen or twenty minutes talking with someone. Is
Speaker 2: that okay?
Speaker 5: Yes, And you're engaged in conversation with other people that
Speaker 5: have interest like you, and so you may have a
Speaker 5: similar influencer and you start having a conversation online. Listen,
Speaker 5: I'm not on TikTok, I'm not gen Z, so I
Speaker 5: don't I really don't know how that all works. But
Speaker 5: what I will tell you is that the trend is
Speaker 5: towards authenticity. Somebody would rather have a really good deep
Speaker 5: conversation than go out to most people than it to
Speaker 5: go out to extensive dinner. So they're going to pick
Speaker 5: that place where they can have the conversation over the
Speaker 5: extensive wine and steak. Right, So it's that's the trend
Speaker 5: we're moving toward is.
Speaker 6: Let me get to know you.
Speaker 4: Who are you?
Speaker 5: How do we match? What we have in common? It
Speaker 5: matters now?
Speaker 6: Are they young people?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Are young people eliminated? Eliminating the middle and I
Speaker 2: shouldn't say middle person, the middle website meaning you know,
Speaker 2: they don't they somehow are able to connect with people
Speaker 2: directly and not have to worry about going to a
Speaker 2: dating consultant. Is just a little bit more I guess,
Speaker 2: I don't want to say old fashioned, but maybe more standards.
Speaker 2: Would that be a way to describe it.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's awesome.
Speaker 6: Yes, I uh you know.
Speaker 5: I've been a dating coach and a matchmaker for years
Speaker 5: and I will always tell people I would much rather
Speaker 5: than meet in person for parties sometimes and people meet
Speaker 5: in person and it's way better to do it that way.
Speaker 5: So we're moving back to a more traditional way of
Speaker 5: meeting people, which is amazing, especially for this younger generation.
Speaker 5: So uh yeah, so I think the baby boomers already
Speaker 5: have it and want it, but yeah, now they're getting
Speaker 5: on board.
Speaker 2: Okay. Now, I do a lot of politics, so I'm
Speaker 2: not going to put you in the middle here on
Speaker 2: politics for real, quick quickly. The country is kind of
Speaker 2: moving in a conservative direction in this last election, Okay,
Speaker 2: I think yes. Is society socially also following that direction?
Speaker 2: Is there are those stars aligned? I'm not looking, I'm
Speaker 2: not looking to make a big political point here, but
Speaker 2: it just seems to me that maybe we're kind of
Speaker 2: taking a little bit of a breather or taking a
Speaker 2: step back. And is that inaccurate?
Speaker 5: I actually nobody's ever asked me that, and that is
Speaker 5: a fabulous question. I would say yes, I would say
Speaker 5: absolutely yes. Hadn't thought about it. But you know, I
Speaker 5: have an app that I created because of the fact
Speaker 5: that the wipeouts weren't working and all the all the
Speaker 5: superficiality about it, and people have said that to me.
Speaker 5: I am you know, They'll say, well, this is a
Speaker 5: more conservative app for more conservative people, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: you can call it conservative, but it's just people with
Speaker 5: more traditional values.
Speaker 2: Traditional traditional is better. Jennifer, How can folks get in
Speaker 2: touch with you? Do you have an app? I mean
Speaker 2: a website? I'm sure people would love to be touch
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's lovability l O V E A B I
Speaker 5: l I T Y lovability dot A I. Or they
Speaker 5: can find me on Facebook. I do free coaching on
Speaker 5: Facebook every day, So find my personal account Jennifer Styers
Speaker 5: on Facebook and Styers is.
Speaker 2: S T Y E R S. Jennifer. I love to
Speaker 2: have you back. This was a fun conversation. You know,
Speaker 2: we don't descript questions in advance, as I'm sure you know,
Speaker 2: I just make them up as it go along. Thank
Speaker 2: you for acknowledging that last question as being within the
Speaker 2: realm of legitimacy.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, alcome, thank you.
Speaker 2: We'll talk soon when we come back. We're going to
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