Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The
Speaker 1: House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Hey,
Speaker 1: welcome home. I'm Dean Sharp the House Whisper. I design
Speaker 1: custom homes, build a few custom homes, and on the weekends,
Speaker 1: I am your guide to better understanding that place where
Speaker 1: you live. So glad that you are with us on
Speaker 1: the program today. I will try not to disappoint today
Speaker 1: on the show. I don't know if you've noticed, but
Speaker 1: you know spring is Spring's already here in southern California.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the weather is looking like exactly
Speaker 1: where you may be across this great nation of ours.
Speaker 1: I know there are some looking at the weather this morning,
Speaker 1: there are some temperatures in the zero, in the tens,
Speaker 1: and definitely in the single digits in places I know
Speaker 1: for you, you're like, uh, yeah, no spring yet, Dean,
Speaker 1: not yet. It's all right, It's all right, it's coming, right,
Speaker 1: it is coming. We're only technically, what are we eighteen
Speaker 1: nineteen days away from spring something like that? Just no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, ten ten or eleven days away from spring.
Speaker 1: That's where we're at anyway. Today on the show, we
Speaker 1: are going to continue a theme that we started with
Speaker 1: our previous episode that would be yesterday's broadcast, or if
Speaker 1: you were one of our many podcast listeners, our previous
Speaker 1: episode on the podcast. And it's a theme about where
Speaker 1: to get the most space for the least amount of money.
Speaker 1: And this is specifically geared toward a certain demographic in
Speaker 1: our community, of which I belong to right now just
Speaker 1: as much as so many of the rest of you.
Speaker 1: And that is this. You know, you're you need a
Speaker 1: little more space. Inflation has not left, funds are tight,
Speaker 1: the stock market, investment portfolio is You're like, what what
Speaker 1: does that mean? It's not looking as good as it
Speaker 1: has been in the past, and funds are tight, but
Speaker 1: so is the house, and so we're looking for a
Speaker 1: little bit more elbow room. So I took it upon
Speaker 1: myself this week to say, well, you know, there are
Speaker 1: two somewhat I mean, they're not bizarre, but they're just
Speaker 1: not the typical places we go to in our thinking.
Speaker 1: Two places to get more space for the least amount
Speaker 1: of money. One was where we went yesterday, which was
Speaker 1: the garage. The garage is for most homeowners another four
Speaker 1: hundred feet of flexible space that is often neglected and
Speaker 1: not utilized fully. And here's another space today that we're
Speaker 1: going to spend even more time on, and that is
Speaker 1: very simply outside. Outside. There is space, literally all of
Speaker 1: the space, everything that isn't inside your own skin and
Speaker 1: the few odds and ends that you have within reach
Speaker 1: of you in your little cubicle that you live in.
Speaker 1: Everything else in the universe is outside, and that's where
Speaker 1: there is unquestionably the most space. Yes, even if you
Speaker 1: live in a condo and have just a very small patio,
Speaker 1: they are still space to be reclaimed. The question is
Speaker 1: do we want to go out there? Is it set
Speaker 1: up for us to go out there? And is in
Speaker 1: a condition or a design condition where we can enjoy outside?
Speaker 1: Because if you can enjoy outside, then instantly we've got
Speaker 1: more space without adding on, without hiring a contractor without
Speaker 1: having to do all the things that we normally think
Speaker 1: of doing in terms of getting more space. So today
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about utilizing outdoors wherever we can
Speaker 1: find it in order to, you know, give ourselves a
Speaker 1: little bit of more elbow room for living, especially when
Speaker 1: budgets are tight and they're just you know, we want
Speaker 1: it we'd love to, we'd love to expanding, but not
Speaker 1: gonna happen this year. So let's get creative, all right,
Speaker 1: And we're going to and we're gonna ask the tough
Speaker 1: questions too. We're gonna start off with asking maybe the
Speaker 1: toughest question of all, but I'm gonna set that to
Speaker 1: the side for a moment so that I can introduce
Speaker 1: you to our awesome team. Elmer is on the board
Speaker 1: as always. Good morning, Elmer. Oh, hey, good morning. I
Speaker 1: missed you last week. I gotta tell you, yeah, I
Speaker 1: miss you to day. Producer Michelle Cube is with us
Speaker 1: this morning. She is screening call. Oh she's already busy
Speaker 1: screening calls, which is the cue for me to tell
Speaker 1: you that. And of course we're going to be taking
Speaker 1: your calls today as well. And the phone lines are
Speaker 1: open right now. And of course there is no somebody
Speaker 1: apologized yesterday for calling in on something that was off topic.
Speaker 1: There is no off topic when it comes to your calls.
Speaker 1: Whenever I take calls, anything you want to discuss that's
Speaker 1: got you scratching your head about your home, indoors, outdoors, landscape, hardscape, construction, design, DIY,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be fire it at me. I'm
Speaker 1: going to help you out with it. The number to
Speaker 1: reach me. The phone lines are open now and the
Speaker 1: legendary Michelle Cube is standing by to take your call
Speaker 1: and tell you everything you need to know and pop
Speaker 1: you into the queue. The number to reach me eight
Speaker 1: three three two. Ask Dean eight three three the numeral two,
Speaker 1: ask Dean give me a call. You can listen to
Speaker 1: the show while you wait, and who knows, we can
Speaker 1: put our heads together and figure out what's going on
Speaker 1: with your place. Eileen Gonzalez at the news desk, Good morning, Eileen,
Speaker 1: Good morning. How is this time change treating you? You
Speaker 1: know what? I actually intentionally slept in a little bit
Speaker 1: more today and I woke up thinking I had slept
Speaker 1: in longer than I had nice. I'm like, hey, I
Speaker 1: got two extra hours. No, no, no, I didn't, I
Speaker 1: got one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I need an extra cup of coffee today or tea
Speaker 2: because I I don't drink coffee.
Speaker 1: Well, what's the tea of choice for this morning? It's
Speaker 1: green tea.
Speaker 2: I love tea.
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. I love green tea.
Speaker 1: You know what? I don't do well with his macha?
Speaker 1: Oh I like that? Well, sorry, kids to offend. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying. I'm just saying, there's just something a little
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's a I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm going to try and figure it
Speaker 1: out and we'll talk about it later. All right. Across
Speaker 1: the table from me, my better half, my design partner,
Speaker 1: and my best friend in all the world, tea of
Speaker 1: course is.
Speaker 2: Well, excuse me, clear your throat without the mic on,
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, welcome home, Good to see you.
Speaker 1: Good to see you. It's gonna say good to be seen.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you need some macha. You need a
Speaker 1: little macha. I like macha because it's kind of earthy.
Speaker 1: It is earthy. I had something about the powder that's
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Maybe that's a good
Speaker 1: word for it. It's a little too. I liked it.
Speaker 1: We were we were at five oh seven yesterday. We
Speaker 1: were talking to Amber when five oh seven is our
Speaker 1: favorite local coffee hangout, and Amber, one of the owners,
Speaker 1: was saying, I said, what is this drink?
Speaker 2: And she goes, well, it's basically dirt, and I go,
Speaker 2: I can think I'll pass.
Speaker 1: I don't really want to.
Speaker 2: Drink you said, it's very healthy for you. It's earthy
Speaker 2: and but like literally it is literally what.
Speaker 1: Was the name of that. I don't remember. I have
Speaker 1: to look it up. All right, we'll figure it out anyway.
Speaker 1: I'm just drinking coffee. Coffee comes from the coffee bean
Speaker 1: and a little water, and that's all. And it works
Speaker 1: for me. All right, y'all. When we come back, I'm
Speaker 1: going to start today by asking you the most important
Speaker 1: and maybe the hardest question when it comes to outdoor living.
Speaker 1: You know what that is? Well, you hang tight.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on the program today. Glad you
Speaker 1: are with us. We are talking about where to get
Speaker 1: the most space for the least money, and today on
Speaker 1: the program we are focusing on outside and right before
Speaker 1: the break, I teased you with saying that I was
Speaker 1: going to start this whole process by asking you an
Speaker 1: important question I think, maybe the most important question when
Speaker 1: it comes to outdoors and you are you ready for it?
Speaker 1: Have you figured it out? Yeah? I'm gonna guess maybe not.
Speaker 1: Because this is something that specifically, as designers, Tina and
Speaker 1: I run into all the time. With folks, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna make sense when I ask it, and you're asking
Speaker 1: yourself the question, when is he going to get around asking?
Speaker 1: Is he gonna just keep teasing us about it? No,
Speaker 1: I'll do it in a minute or two. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it right now here.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: What will it take to get you outside?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Think about that. We live in a very comfy, controlled world.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know people who who swear up and down. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a younger set of people, and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to stereotype the younger generation at all, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I know people who literally have looked at
Speaker 1: me with all honesty and sincerity in their face and say,
Speaker 1: I'm not really an outside person. And I think, Wow,
Speaker 1: by saying that, you realize, of course that you are.
Speaker 1: And I know it doesn't seem this way to you,
Speaker 1: but you are literally missing almost everything, almost everything. Now,
Speaker 1: I just want you to consider the fact that it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether you live in a cottage or a castle.
Speaker 1: When I say this, because whether or not you've got
Speaker 1: I don't know, two hundred square feet around you inside
Speaker 1: your little space, or two thousand square feet in the
Speaker 1: room that you happen to be standing in right now,
Speaker 1: and my voice is echoing down through the chambers of
Speaker 1: your estate. The fact of the matter is it ain't
Speaker 1: that big compared to literally everything else in the universe.
Speaker 1: Everything mostly is outside. And so the question becomes, as
Speaker 1: we can continue to live our ever increasingly small lives,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem that way because you know, those
Speaker 1: little black screens that people are staring into right now
Speaker 1: seem like they take you to all sorts of other
Speaker 1: places and other things, But in reality, where you actually
Speaker 1: are located, it's a pretty small, confined area. And so
Speaker 1: I asked the question, what will it take to get
Speaker 1: you outside? The amount of money that people spend to
Speaker 1: stay insulated comfortable in controlled environments is egregious, egregious amounts
Speaker 1: of money to stay that way. In fact, one of
Speaker 1: the most common conversations about outside that I have with
Speaker 1: a lot of clients are started by them saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: we want to spend more time outs. We're thinking about
Speaker 1: a California room, and I'm thinking, okay, well, and by
Speaker 1: the way, I have nothing against a California room. And
Speaker 1: if you don't know what a California room is, it's
Speaker 1: basically a room addition onto your house with a lot
Speaker 1: of glass in it. Okay, so a lot of glass,
Speaker 1: and maybe some of those walls can open up, but
Speaker 1: essentially it's a room with a full roof and heating
Speaker 1: and air conditioning and a lot of it's a room
Speaker 1: so in so many ways, and please again understand me,
Speaker 1: I've got nothing against California rooms. They're beautiful if you
Speaker 1: can afford them and have them and so on, but
Speaker 1: they are not outside. The whole point of a California
Speaker 1: room is that it's a hybrid of like almost outside.
Speaker 1: We just spent seventy five thousand dollars to get almost outside,
Speaker 1: a little get closered outside. I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: So one of the things you know today, we're not
Speaker 1: talking to people who have the wherewithal to build a
Speaker 1: California room. I'm talking to you and me. And you know,
Speaker 1: budgets are tight, but the house is feeling a little tight.
Speaker 1: And so one of those ways where we can loosen
Speaker 1: things up and get a little bit more elbow space
Speaker 1: is getting outside. But the biggest hurdle to doing that,
Speaker 1: I would say, the only hurdle to doing that realistically
Speaker 1: is somewhere up inside your cranium and answering this question,
Speaker 1: what will it take to get you outside? Now? I
Speaker 1: can see some of the answers formulating, well, I'm going
Speaker 1: to have to be comfortable. Well, I agree with you
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. To get you outside, we need to
Speaker 1: be comfortable. I mean, there's no point in finding more
Speaker 1: elbow space if if we're drowning in sweat, or we're
Speaker 1: freezing cold, or we're wet, or we're just not, you know,
Speaker 1: enjoying it. The point is enjoying the outside. And so
Speaker 1: that's where we have to start breaking things down and
Speaker 1: instead of jumping to all of the luxuries that get
Speaker 1: pushed at you in all of the design magazines and
Speaker 1: websites and everywhere you turn, like, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 1: here are people who enjoy being outside because they've just
Speaker 1: bought a sixty thousand dollars patio furniture set. Okay, well
Speaker 1: that's not in the budget either, Dean, I get you.
Speaker 1: I get you. So again, we're going to find the
Speaker 1: key to this today by continuing to return to this
Speaker 1: question what will it take to get us outside? It's
Speaker 1: not just a big open ended question, No, I want
Speaker 1: to answer it specifically, so that we can find, in
Speaker 1: a minimalist but effective and efficient way, the ways to
Speaker 1: get us from inside the house to outside the house
Speaker 1: for as little cash out of pocket as possible. If
Speaker 1: that's of interest to you, then don't go anywhere, because
Speaker 1: that's where we're headed. We're gonna do it right after.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
Speaker 3: KFI AM six.
Speaker 1: Forty Dean Sharp the House whisper with you like I
Speaker 1: am live every Saturday morning from six to eight and
Speaker 1: Sundays from nine to noon. Are you running ahead or
Speaker 1: behind today because of daylight savings? Probably not. You know,
Speaker 1: we don't really have that conversation much anymore now that
Speaker 1: phones and electronic clocks just automatically change. Right. There was
Speaker 1: that time. I remember when we used to have to
Speaker 1: reset the sundial in the mornings. It is weird. It
Speaker 1: is weird to feel older, right, And You're like, you
Speaker 1: had to go. I mean, we still have some regular
Speaker 1: clocks in the house, but not the ones that we
Speaker 1: depend on to wake us up and to get us moving, right.
Speaker 1: So Tina and I were like, where what clocks have
Speaker 1: to be reset today? Oh? Just go room to room
Speaker 1: and look around see if there's a clock in there,
Speaker 1: that's a stupid clock. Anyway, I hope you are enjoying
Speaker 1: your Sunday morning as much as we are, and we are.
Speaker 1: We're talking about finding space without paying big bucks to
Speaker 1: get it, and today specifically outdoors outdoors, And I've already
Speaker 1: sprung the most important question on you. Yes, you can
Speaker 1: count on Dean to ask a somewhat philosophical question, or
Speaker 1: at least it sounds philosophical to start off the whole
Speaker 1: design process. And you know why, by the way, it's
Speaker 1: not just because that's just the way I rune. It isn't.
Speaker 1: It isn't just that. Okay, not at least from my perspective,
Speaker 1: it isn't. It's because you know, the reason we ask
Speaker 1: the big questions here on Home, a show that's about home,
Speaker 1: is that home is the place where we live our lives.
Speaker 1: And you know that has everything to do with I
Speaker 1: happen to be a designer who believes that good custom
Speaker 1: home design has everything to do with matching that space
Speaker 1: to the way people actually live, and that means crawling
Speaker 1: inside people's heads from time to time and figuring out
Speaker 1: what's important to you. Now, I am not here today
Speaker 1: to twist anybody's arm and convince you if you are
Speaker 1: an inside dweller, oh, it's a lovely music for us.
Speaker 1: I'm not here to convince you that you've got to
Speaker 1: get outside. All I'm sitting here is saying is that
Speaker 1: outside is where most everything is, and there are inexpensive
Speaker 1: ways of getting out there. And the key to finding
Speaker 1: those ways and which ones work for you is asking,
Speaker 1: what sounds like this big philosophical question, what will it
Speaker 1: take to get you outside? Okay, but there's really a
Speaker 1: deep practical element to it. In fact, I would say
Speaker 1: the entire root of it is truly practical. I love
Speaker 1: that Eileen covered this story at the La Arboretum. Right,
Speaker 1: the La Arboretum is not a place that you would think,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a certain there's a certain kind of
Speaker 1: person who goes to the arboretum. Sweetheart, perhaps this weekend
Speaker 1: we will visit the Arboretum. Right, but but today, what's
Speaker 1: happening at the arboretum barks and bruise. How do you
Speaker 1: get more people to the arboretum? How do you get
Speaker 1: a different crowd to the La? R read them, well,
Speaker 1: bring your dog in. There's beer, and you know what
Speaker 1: that's smart. It's just smart thinking, all right. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: dogs and beer at the tree Place today. That's the
Speaker 1: kind of thinking that I would like to apply to
Speaker 1: outdoors for you. Okay, Now, I don't want you roughing it,
Speaker 1: I really don't. But the difference between being comfortable and
Speaker 1: spending gobs of money on luxuries that go way beyond
Speaker 1: comfortable and nice, that's a massive, massive, massive difference, and
Speaker 1: it starts in levels of practicality that quite honestly, you
Speaker 1: would think as well. He designs customer state homes, he
Speaker 1: doesn't think like that. Oh yeah, I do, because I
Speaker 1: live in a very small home and we have a
Speaker 1: very simple outdoors that we love very much. I also
Speaker 1: spent a good deal of my life and still do,
Speaker 1: enjoying what other people might call camping. I don't really camp.
Speaker 1: I don't really camp. I backpack and mountaineer. And so
Speaker 1: for me, the idea of getting outside and spending a
Speaker 1: night out in the outdoors is throwing everything you need
Speaker 1: on your back and getting miles and miles and miles
Speaker 1: away from the nearest automobile or even any road. And
Speaker 1: when you grow up in that mindset, you really think
Speaker 1: about what do I need to bring with me to
Speaker 1: be comfortable. And it's not a lot because it's got
Speaker 1: to fit on your back, right, So that's the mindset.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm only saying this to reassure you that
Speaker 1: where I want to go with all of these things
Speaker 1: and you today is the simplest, most basic, and yet
Speaker 1: completely comfortable way. So let's start with down. Sitting down
Speaker 1: outside comes speaks to a fundamental truth about furniture. Okay,
Speaker 1: and this is a truth that quite often we have
Speaker 1: to Well, if you've ever listened to any one of
Speaker 1: my furniture shows about the inside of a house, you
Speaker 1: will hear me say again and again and again that
Speaker 1: the ergonomics and the design of a piece of furniture
Speaker 1: is so critical to the furniture experience. Unless you're just again,
Speaker 1: you've just got gazillions of dollars and you're going to
Speaker 1: furnish a room that you're never gonna sit in, then
Speaker 1: who cares? Just whatever it's supposed to look like to you, Fine,
Speaker 1: they're not going to sit in it anyway. But so
Speaker 1: many people get led astray when they end up going
Speaker 1: furniture shopping because they're thinking, oh, we're looking for the thickest,
Speaker 1: cushiest cushions. We're looking for the pillowiest pillows, right, because
Speaker 1: soft equals comfortable, until, of course, you've sat in a
Speaker 1: piece of furniture that has a really spongy, super soft
Speaker 1: seat and a really spongy back for more than maybe
Speaker 1: ten minutes, and you realize, wow, this thing is I
Speaker 1: just find myself kind of shifting around because it's sort
Speaker 1: of swallowing me up and it's actually not comfortable. It's
Speaker 1: not the right depth of seat cushion for me. My
Speaker 1: knees are sticking out too far or they're not sticking
Speaker 1: out far enough. The back is too low, the back
Speaker 1: is too high, the angle is weird, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: when we're buying furniture, as a general rule, we always
Speaker 1: always want to sit in that furniture for an extended
Speaker 1: period of time in order to verify and as a
Speaker 1: general rule, and this is really where it gets critical.
Speaker 1: As a general rule, the firmer a piece of furniture,
Speaker 1: the longer you will be able to sit in it comfortably.
Speaker 1: I kid you not. I want you to think about
Speaker 1: a car seat, and not a car seat for a child,
Speaker 1: but a seat in an automobile. Okay, These are not
Speaker 1: renowned for being super soft and cushy. Okay, they are
Speaker 1: ergonomically well designed with just enough cushion in just the
Speaker 1: right places, right right exactly. Okay, not big, overblown, puffy seats,
Speaker 1: but well designed seats. And so how does this apply
Speaker 1: to outdoors? It applies to outdoors and getting you outside
Speaker 1: because one of the things I know that we need
Speaker 1: to get you outside is to promise you a comfortable
Speaker 1: seat for the show. Okay, a comfortable seat can be
Speaker 1: a piece of furniture that has zero cushions on it, whatsoever,
Speaker 1: no cushions, because what are cushions? Maintenance issues? What are cushions?
Speaker 1: They are luxuries that you not only have to spend
Speaker 1: more money for, but you also have to spend more
Speaker 1: time taking care of because no, we should cover them up.
Speaker 1: Oh it's going to be raining this week. Bring all
Speaker 1: the cushions in, put them in the garage, Stack them
Speaker 1: in the garage. Oh now we can bring them all out.
Speaker 1: Oh they just got dirty because a bird just did
Speaker 1: its thing, and so on and so forth. Again, nothing
Speaker 1: against cushioned patio furniture, but the basic, the basic, the
Speaker 1: bare minimum to get you comfortably outside, what you could
Speaker 1: be looking for is something that is simply the right
Speaker 1: chair and the right chare set in the right configuration
Speaker 1: with the right ergonomics. Could be a chair, and probably
Speaker 1: is a chair that has zero cushion whatsoever. Just a
Speaker 1: chair that can sit out there in the rain, in
Speaker 1: the sleet, in the snow, in the heat, and be
Speaker 1: ready for you at a moment's notice, and that you
Speaker 1: did not break the bank to buy. Are those chairs
Speaker 1: out there? Yes they are.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Welcome home. We're going to be going to the phones
Speaker 1: right after the next news break, so just know that
Speaker 1: the number to reach me eight three to three to
Speaker 1: ask Dean. I take calls randomly, and we've got quite
Speaker 1: a few calls on the board. But there's still room
Speaker 1: for you if you're thinking about it. Eight three three
Speaker 1: two ask Dean. Okay, we're breaking down the essentials of
Speaker 1: spending the least amount of money to get you the
Speaker 1: most amount of space, and that means not getting into
Speaker 1: a major remodel or room edition or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but taking advantage of the spaces that you've got. Yesterday
Speaker 1: I talked about garages and utilizing them more. Today I'm
Speaker 1: talking about outside and utilizing them more. Them it it more,
Speaker 1: And no, this is not our only outdoor show. This
Speaker 1: is a very special angle at approaching outdoors. During the spring,
Speaker 1: I tend to talk a lot about outdoor living because
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that we ramp up with.
Speaker 1: You know, we're anxious to get out and break loose
Speaker 1: of cabin fever, and so we will be doing more
Speaker 1: outdoor living stuff in the weeks ahead, no doubt, before
Speaker 1: we dive into other things. But this is a very
Speaker 1: specific angle, and this is what is the least you
Speaker 1: can get away with out there to make yourself really
Speaker 1: comfy and really enjoy the show that's happening outside every day.
Speaker 1: So we're not jumping to the gigantic spens, we're not
Speaker 1: junk jumping into the ultimate luxuries. But I want you comfortable,
Speaker 1: and we're answering this question as a theme today. What's
Speaker 1: it going to take to get you out side and
Speaker 1: right now seating a place to sit, okay, a comfortable
Speaker 1: place to sit and to watch nature's show unfold before you.
Speaker 1: Whether it's just staring up at the stars, whether it's
Speaker 1: looking at the clouds passed by, whether it's just breathing
Speaker 1: the fresh air, and you know what I mean, I
Speaker 1: do it a lot. I'm an outdoorsy kind of a person.
Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time outdoors. We have a small,
Speaker 1: small home, a lill small by American standards. We live
Speaker 1: in what we call a little cottage of a home.
Speaker 1: It's about thirteen hundred square feet, and that's after we
Speaker 1: added a lot to it. It started out as nine
Speaker 1: hundred and forty square feet. But the reason we bought
Speaker 1: this property is that we're sitting on just a little
Speaker 1: under you know, a third of an acre, about a
Speaker 1: third of an acre, So we got a lot of
Speaker 1: space outside that little cottage, and life just would not
Speaker 1: be the same here without the fact that we spend
Speaker 1: so much time out in the yard and outside. I
Speaker 1: like it. I prefer it in most cases. You know.
Speaker 1: Even though our home is fresh and clean and the
Speaker 1: air is clean and it's all lovely and beautiful, I
Speaker 1: just none. Indoor air never compares to outside fresh air.
Speaker 1: And I'm willing to put up with whatever little inconveniences
Speaker 1: along the way, But to be honest with you, there
Speaker 1: aren't many. Because we have from a very minimal perspective,
Speaker 1: taken advantage of it, answered all these questions, well, what's
Speaker 1: it going to take to get us outside? So we
Speaker 1: were talking about seating, and I was giving you a
Speaker 1: general principle that applies to everybody who's listening. I don't
Speaker 1: care if you're just thinking about buying a new sofa
Speaker 1: for your living room. The same principle applies. Always examined
Speaker 1: the ergonomics of a piece of furniture before you commit
Speaker 1: to it, because comfort and luxury is not simply about
Speaker 1: big puffy cushions and soft and soft and soft and soft.
Speaker 1: In fact, soft, just like an overly soft bed, can
Speaker 1: lead you aching and feeling uncomfortable and not enjoying the experience.
Speaker 1: And so my point is this, I know this as
Speaker 1: an absolute fact, okay, that a properly designed hard surface
Speaker 1: chair can be far more comfortable than a poorly or
Speaker 1: thoughtlessly designed super puffy cushy thing. Okay, And it just
Speaker 1: so happens that the best value in patio furniture comes
Speaker 1: from the fact that if you don't have cushions that
Speaker 1: have to be monitored, moved, protected, replaced, if you just
Speaker 1: have a hard surface chair. So everything from that perfect
Speaker 1: and by the way, I just interrupted my thought without
Speaker 1: getting it out of my mouth. But that perfect rocking chair.
Speaker 1: By the way, I am still in search of the
Speaker 1: ultimate rocking chair for my deck because I love them
Speaker 1: the movement, and a rocking chair is a great example
Speaker 1: a well designed rocking chair you sit down in and
Speaker 1: suddenly you realize, oh, oh yeah, that's great. Right. For
Speaker 1: years I had a solid walnut banker's chair sitting in
Speaker 1: our office that I would design out of, and still
Speaker 1: to this day, Tina and I sit in two hard
Speaker 1: wooden chairs in our office for hours at a time.
Speaker 1: Why because they're beautifully designed, erbic, ergonomically, and they get
Speaker 1: the job done and we do not get out of
Speaker 1: them sore or anything like that. So again, this is
Speaker 1: an encouragement to you. Okay, now, what do I have
Speaker 1: sitting on my deck right now around our fire pit?
Speaker 1: Always has been, always will be some really nice, nicely shaped,
Speaker 1: rounded backed Adirondack chairs. Now, Adirondack chairs are not for everybody,
Speaker 1: but they are a comfortable, reclined a piece of patio
Speaker 1: furniture that we have never had a guest ever say
Speaker 1: I just can't sit in those because I, you know,
Speaker 1: and if somebody has like a lower back problem, they'll
Speaker 1: just grab a small cushion and put it behind like
Speaker 1: a little lumbar support for them. But the fact of
Speaker 1: the matter is these are resin based chairs made out
Speaker 1: of recycled materials. They're black, they they don't show dirt well,
Speaker 1: they weather any weather whatsoever. We never worry about them.
Speaker 1: This morning, when I came out, they were covered in dew.
Speaker 1: I just grabbed a little towel and I just wiped
Speaker 1: one off, the one that I was going to sit in,
Speaker 1: and I turned on the fire pit and boom, I
Speaker 1: was there a comfortable chair. I can sit in that
Speaker 1: chair literally for hours. Okay, so what do you need.
Speaker 1: What's it going to take to get you outside? A
Speaker 1: comfortable chair, A sixty thousand dollars patio set? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: just some comfortable chairs for you and a friend or
Speaker 1: a small group of friends. That's all you need to do.
Speaker 1: You need to know what it is you're really looking
Speaker 1: for in order to make your dollar go the furthest
Speaker 1: and it doesn't take much to come up with us.
Speaker 1: I think these actually came from Costco, to be perfectly honest,
Speaker 1: and they have held up really, really well, no end
Speaker 1: date in sight for these things, all right, when we
Speaker 1: come back, We're gonna pause this conversation a bit, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to be going to the phones, and then
Speaker 1: we will return and we will talk about the next
Speaker 1: thing it takes to get you outside, and that, just
Speaker 1: to show my hand a little bit is probably a
Speaker 1: little bit of warmth and a little bit of shade, okay,
Speaker 1: And how do we break those down into their minimums.
Speaker 1: We will do it all when we return. You are
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