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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The

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<v Speaker 1>House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome home. I'm Dean Sharp the House Whisper. I design

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<v Speaker 1>custom homes, build a few custom homes, and on the weekends,

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<v Speaker 1>I am your guide to better understanding that place where

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<v Speaker 1>you live. So glad that you are with us on

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<v Speaker 1>the program today. I will try not to disappoint today

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. I don't know if you've noticed, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know spring is Spring's already here in southern California.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the weather is looking like exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where you may be across this great nation of ours.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there are some looking at the weather this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some temperatures in the zero, in the tens,

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<v Speaker 1>and definitely in the single digits in places I know

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<v Speaker 1>for you, you're like, uh, yeah, no spring yet, Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>not yet. It's all right, It's all right, it's coming, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it is coming. We're only technically, what are we eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen days away from spring something like that? Just no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, ten ten or eleven days away from spring.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where we're at anyway. Today on the show, we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to continue a theme that we started with

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<v Speaker 1>our previous episode that would be yesterday's broadcast, or if

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<v Speaker 1>you were one of our many podcast listeners, our previous

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<v Speaker 1>episode on the podcast. And it's a theme about where

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<v Speaker 1>to get the most space for the least amount of money.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is specifically geared toward a certain demographic in

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<v Speaker 1>our community, of which I belong to right now just

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<v Speaker 1>as much as so many of the rest of you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is this. You know, you're you need a

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<v Speaker 1>little more space. Inflation has not left, funds are tight,

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<v Speaker 1>the stock market, investment portfolio is You're like, what what

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? It's not looking as good as it

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<v Speaker 1>has been in the past, and funds are tight, but

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<v Speaker 1>so is the house, and so we're looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more elbow room. So I took it upon

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<v Speaker 1>myself this week to say, well, you know, there are

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<v Speaker 1>two somewhat I mean, they're not bizarre, but they're just

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<v Speaker 1>not the typical places we go to in our thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Two places to get more space for the least amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money. One was where we went yesterday, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the garage. The garage is for most homeowners another four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred feet of flexible space that is often neglected and

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<v Speaker 1>not utilized fully. And here's another space today that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to spend even more time on, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>very simply outside. Outside. There is space, literally all of

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<v Speaker 1>the space, everything that isn't inside your own skin and

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<v Speaker 1>the few odds and ends that you have within reach

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<v Speaker 1>of you in your little cubicle that you live in.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything else in the universe is outside, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>there is unquestionably the most space. Yes, even if you

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<v Speaker 1>live in a condo and have just a very small patio,

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<v Speaker 1>they are still space to be reclaimed. The question is

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to go out there? Is it set

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<v Speaker 1>up for us to go out there? And is in

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<v Speaker 1>a condition or a design condition where we can enjoy outside?

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you can enjoy outside, then instantly we've got

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<v Speaker 1>more space without adding on, without hiring a contractor without

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<v Speaker 1>having to do all the things that we normally think

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<v Speaker 1>of doing in terms of getting more space. So today

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be talking about utilizing outdoors wherever we can

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<v Speaker 1>find it in order to, you know, give ourselves a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of more elbow room for living, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>budgets are tight and they're just you know, we want

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<v Speaker 1>it we'd love to, we'd love to expanding, but not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen this year. So let's get creative, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to and we're gonna ask the tough

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<v Speaker 1>questions too. We're gonna start off with asking maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>toughest question of all, but I'm gonna set that to

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<v Speaker 1>the side for a moment so that I can introduce

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<v Speaker 1>you to our awesome team. Elmer is on the board

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<v Speaker 1>as always. Good morning, Elmer. Oh, hey, good morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>missed you last week. I gotta tell you, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>miss you to day. Producer Michelle Cube is with us

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. She is screening call. Oh she's already busy

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<v Speaker 1>screening calls, which is the cue for me to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that. And of course we're going to be taking

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<v Speaker 1>your calls today as well. And the phone lines are

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<v Speaker 1>open right now. And of course there is no somebody

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<v Speaker 1>apologized yesterday for calling in on something that was off topic.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no off topic when it comes to your calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I take calls, anything you want to discuss that's

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<v Speaker 1>got you scratching your head about your home, indoors, outdoors, landscape, hardscape, construction, design, DIY,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the case may be fire it at me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to help you out with it. The number to

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<v Speaker 1>reach me. The phone lines are open now and the

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<v Speaker 1>legendary Michelle Cube is standing by to take your call

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<v Speaker 1>and tell you everything you need to know and pop

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<v Speaker 1>you into the queue. The number to reach me eight

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<v Speaker 1>three three two. Ask Dean eight three three the numeral two,

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<v Speaker 1>ask Dean give me a call. You can listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the show while you wait, and who knows, we can

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<v Speaker 1>put our heads together and figure out what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with your place. Eileen Gonzalez at the news desk, Good morning, Eileen,

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning. How is this time change treating you? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what? I actually intentionally slept in a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more today and I woke up thinking I had slept

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<v Speaker 1>in longer than I had nice. I'm like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>got two extra hours. No, no, no, I didn't, I

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<v Speaker 1>got one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I need an extra cup of coffee today or tea

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<v Speaker 2>because I I don't drink coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what's the tea of choice for this morning? It's

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<v Speaker 1>green tea.

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<v Speaker 2>I love tea.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, there you go. I love green tea.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? I don't do well with his macha?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I like that? Well, sorry, kids to offend. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying. I'm just saying, there's just something a little

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. It's a I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm going to try and figure it

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<v Speaker 1>out and we'll talk about it later. All right. Across

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<v Speaker 1>the table from me, my better half, my design partner,

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<v Speaker 1>and my best friend in all the world, tea of

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<v Speaker 1>course is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, excuse me, clear your throat without the mic on,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, welcome home, Good to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to see you. It's gonna say good to be seen.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you need some macha. You need a

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<v Speaker 1>little macha. I like macha because it's kind of earthy.

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<v Speaker 1>It is earthy. I had something about the powder that's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. Maybe that's a good

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<v Speaker 1>word for it. It's a little too. I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>We were we were at five oh seven yesterday. We

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<v Speaker 1>were talking to Amber when five oh seven is our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite local coffee hangout, and Amber, one of the owners,

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, I said, what is this drink?

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<v Speaker 2>And she goes, well, it's basically dirt, and I go,

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<v Speaker 2>I can think I'll pass.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Drink you said, it's very healthy for you. It's earthy

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<v Speaker 2>and but like literally it is literally what.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the name of that. I don't remember. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to look it up. All right, we'll figure it out anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just drinking coffee. Coffee comes from the coffee bean

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<v Speaker 1>and a little water, and that's all. And it works

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<v Speaker 1>for me. All right, y'all. When we come back, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to start today by asking you the most important

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe the hardest question when it comes to outdoor living.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what that is? Well, you hang tight.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 3>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us on the program today. Glad you

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<v Speaker 1>are with us. We are talking about where to get

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<v Speaker 1>the most space for the least money, and today on

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<v Speaker 1>the program we are focusing on outside and right before

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<v Speaker 1>the break, I teased you with saying that I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to start this whole process by asking you an

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<v Speaker 1>important question I think, maybe the most important question when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to outdoors and you are you ready for it?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you figured it out? Yeah? I'm gonna guess maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is something that specifically, as designers, Tina and

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<v Speaker 1>I run into all the time. With folks, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make sense when I ask it, and you're asking

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<v Speaker 1>yourself the question, when is he going to get around asking?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he gonna just keep teasing us about it? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it in a minute or two. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it right now here.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>What will it take to get you outside?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that. We live in a very comfy, controlled world.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know people who who swear up and down. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a younger set of people, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stereotype the younger generation at all, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying I know people who literally have looked at

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<v Speaker 1>me with all honesty and sincerity in their face and say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really an outside person. And I think, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>by saying that, you realize, of course that you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it doesn't seem this way to you,

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<v Speaker 1>but you are literally missing almost everything, almost everything. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want you to consider the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter whether you live in a cottage or a castle.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say this, because whether or not you've got

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, two hundred square feet around you inside

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<v Speaker 1>your little space, or two thousand square feet in the

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<v Speaker 1>room that you happen to be standing in right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and my voice is echoing down through the chambers of

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<v Speaker 1>your estate. The fact of the matter is it ain't

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<v Speaker 1>that big compared to literally everything else in the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything mostly is outside. And so the question becomes, as

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<v Speaker 1>we can continue to live our ever increasingly small lives,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't seem that way because you know, those

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<v Speaker 1>little black screens that people are staring into right now

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<v Speaker 1>seem like they take you to all sorts of other

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<v Speaker 1>places and other things, But in reality, where you actually

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<v Speaker 1>are located, it's a pretty small, confined area. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I asked the question, what will it take to get

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<v Speaker 1>you outside? The amount of money that people spend to

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<v Speaker 1>stay insulated comfortable in controlled environments is egregious, egregious amounts

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<v Speaker 1>of money to stay that way. In fact, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most common conversations about outside that I have with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of clients are started by them saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to spend more time outs. We're thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>a California room, and I'm thinking, okay, well, and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I have nothing against a California room. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know what a California room is, it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically a room addition onto your house with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of glass in it. Okay, so a lot of glass,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe some of those walls can open up, but

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<v Speaker 1>essentially it's a room with a full roof and heating

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<v Speaker 1>and air conditioning and a lot of it's a room

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<v Speaker 1>so in so many ways, and please again understand me,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got nothing against California rooms. They're beautiful if you

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<v Speaker 1>can afford them and have them and so on, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are not outside. The whole point of a California

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<v Speaker 1>room is that it's a hybrid of like almost outside.

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<v Speaker 1>We just spent seventy five thousand dollars to get almost outside,

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<v Speaker 1>a little get closered outside. I get it, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>budgets are tight, but the house is feeling a little tight.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, the only hurdle to doing that realistically

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<v Speaker 1>what will it take to get you outside? Now? I

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<v Speaker 1>can see some of the answers formulating, well, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to be comfortable. Well, I agree with you

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. To get you outside, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>elbow space if if we're drowning in sweat, or we're

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying it. The point is enjoying the outside. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we have to start breaking things down and

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<v Speaker 1>instead of jumping to all of the luxuries that get

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<v Speaker 1>websites and everywhere you turn, like, oh, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>here are people who enjoy being outside because they've just

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<v Speaker 1>bought a sixty thousand dollars patio furniture set. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>I get you. So again, we're going to find the

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<v Speaker 1>question what will it take to get us outside? It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just a big open ended question, No, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to answer it specifically, so that we can find, in

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<v Speaker 1>a minimalist but effective and efficient way, the ways to

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<v Speaker 1>for as little cash out of pocket as possible. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's of interest to you, then don't go anywhere, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we're headed. We're gonna do it right after.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>Forty Dean Sharp the House whisper with you like I

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<v Speaker 1>am live every Saturday morning from six to eight and

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<v Speaker 1>Sundays from nine to noon. Are you running ahead or

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<v Speaker 1>behind today because of daylight savings? Probably not. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really have that conversation much anymore now that

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<v Speaker 1>phones and electronic clocks just automatically change. Right. There was

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<v Speaker 1>that time. I remember when we used to have to

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<v Speaker 1>reset the sundial in the mornings. It is weird. It

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<v Speaker 1>is weird to feel older, right, And You're like, you

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<v Speaker 1>had to go. I mean, we still have some regular

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<v Speaker 1>depend on to wake us up and to get us moving, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tina and I were like, where what clocks have

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<v Speaker 1>to be reset today? Oh? Just go room to room

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<v Speaker 1>and look around see if there's a clock in there,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a stupid clock. Anyway, I hope you are enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>your Sunday morning as much as we are, and we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about finding space without paying big bucks to

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<v Speaker 1>get it, and today specifically outdoors outdoors, And I've already

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<v Speaker 1>sprung the most important question on you. Yes, you can

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<v Speaker 1>count on Dean to ask a somewhat philosophical question, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least it sounds philosophical to start off the whole

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<v Speaker 1>design process. And you know why, by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just because that's just the way I rune. It isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't just that. Okay, not at least from my perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't. It's because you know, the reason we ask

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<v Speaker 1>is that home is the place where we live our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that has everything to do with I

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<v Speaker 1>happen to be a designer who believes that good custom

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<v Speaker 1>home design has everything to do with matching that space

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<v Speaker 1>to the way people actually live, and that means crawling

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<v Speaker 1>inside people's heads from time to time and figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>what's important to you. Now, I am not here today

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<v Speaker 1>to twist anybody's arm and convince you if you are

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<v Speaker 1>an inside dweller, oh, it's a lovely music for us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not here to convince you that you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>get outside. All I'm sitting here is saying is that

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<v Speaker 1>outside is where most everything is, and there are inexpensive

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<v Speaker 1>ways of getting out there. And the key to finding

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<v Speaker 1>those ways and which ones work for you is asking,

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<v Speaker 1>what sounds like this big philosophical question, what will it

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<v Speaker 1>take to get you outside? Okay, but there's really a

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<v Speaker 1>deep practical element to it. In fact, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>the entire root of it is truly practical. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that Eileen covered this story at the La Arboretum. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the La Arboretum is not a place that you would think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a certain there's a certain kind of

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<v Speaker 1>person who goes to the arboretum. Sweetheart, perhaps this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>we will visit the Arboretum. Right, but but today, what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening at the arboretum barks and bruise. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>get more people to the arboretum? How do you get

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<v Speaker 1>a different crowd to the La? R read them, well,

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<v Speaker 1>bring your dog in. There's beer, and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>that's smart. It's just smart thinking, all right. You know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>dogs and beer at the tree Place today. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thinking that I would like to apply to

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<v Speaker 1>outdoors for you. Okay, Now, I don't want you roughing it,

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't. But the difference between being comfortable and

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<v Speaker 1>spending gobs of money on luxuries that go way beyond

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable and nice, that's a massive, massive, massive difference, and

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<v Speaker 1>it starts in levels of practicality that quite honestly, you

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<v Speaker 1>would think as well. He designs customer state homes, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't think like that. Oh yeah, I do, because I

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<v Speaker 1>live in a very small home and we have a

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<v Speaker 1>very simple outdoors that we love very much. I also

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<v Speaker 1>spent a good deal of my life and still do,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying what other people might call camping. I don't really camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really camp. I backpack and mountaineer. And so

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<v Speaker 1>for me, the idea of getting outside and spending a

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<v Speaker 1>on your back and getting miles and miles and miles

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<v Speaker 1>away from the nearest automobile or even any road. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you grow up in that mindset, you really think

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<v Speaker 1>about what do I need to bring with me to

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<v Speaker 1>be comfortable. And it's not a lot because it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to fit on your back, right, So that's the mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm only saying this to reassure you that

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<v Speaker 1>where I want to go with all of these things

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<v Speaker 1>and you today is the simplest, most basic, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>completely comfortable way. So let's start with down. Sitting down

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<v Speaker 1>outside comes speaks to a fundamental truth about furniture. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a truth that quite often we have

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<v Speaker 1>to Well, if you've ever listened to any one of

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<v Speaker 1>the ergonomics and the design of a piece of furniture

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<v Speaker 1>is so critical to the furniture experience. Unless you're just again,

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<v Speaker 1>you've just got gazillions of dollars and you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>furnish a room that you're never gonna sit in, then

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<v Speaker 1>who cares? Just whatever it's supposed to look like to you, Fine,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to sit in it anyway. But so

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<v Speaker 1>many people get led astray when they end up going

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<v Speaker 1>furniture shopping because they're thinking, oh, we're looking for the thickest,

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<v Speaker 1>cushiest cushions. We're looking for the pillowiest pillows, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>soft equals comfortable, until, of course, you've sat in a

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<v Speaker 1>seat and a really spongy back for more than maybe

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes, and you realize, wow, this thing is I

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<v Speaker 1>not the right depth of seat cushion for me. My

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<v Speaker 1>knees are sticking out too far or they're not sticking

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<v Speaker 1>when we're buying furniture, as a general rule, we always

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<v Speaker 1>always want to sit in that furniture for an extended

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<v Speaker 1>period of time in order to verify and as a

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<v Speaker 1>general rule, and this is really where it gets critical.

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<v Speaker 1>As a general rule, the firmer a piece of furniture,

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<v Speaker 1>the longer you will be able to sit in it comfortably.

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<v Speaker 1>a car seat, and not a car seat for a child,

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<v Speaker 1>but a seat in an automobile. Okay, These are not

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<v Speaker 1>renowned for being super soft and cushy. Okay, they are

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<v Speaker 1>ergonomically well designed with just enough cushion in just the

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<v Speaker 1>right places, right right exactly. Okay, not big, overblown, puffy seats,

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<v Speaker 1>but well designed seats. And so how does this apply

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<v Speaker 1>to outdoors? It applies to outdoors and getting you outside

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<v Speaker 1>because one of the things I know that we need

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<v Speaker 1>to get you outside is to promise you a comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>seat for the show. Okay, a comfortable seat can be

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of furniture that has zero cushions on it, whatsoever,

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<v Speaker 1>no cushions, because what are cushions? Maintenance issues? What are cushions?

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<v Speaker 1>They are luxuries that you not only have to spend

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<v Speaker 1>time taking care of because no, we should cover them up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's going to be raining this week. Bring all

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<v Speaker 1>the cushions in, put them in the garage, Stack them

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<v Speaker 1>in the garage. Oh now we can bring them all out.

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<v Speaker 1>its thing, and so on and so forth. Again, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>against cushioned patio furniture, but the basic, the basic, the

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<v Speaker 1>bare minimum to get you comfortably outside, what you could

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<v Speaker 1>be looking for is something that is simply the right

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<v Speaker 1>chair and the right chare set in the right configuration

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<v Speaker 1>with the right ergonomics. Could be a chair, and probably

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<v Speaker 1>is a chair that has zero cushion whatsoever. Just a

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<v Speaker 1>out there? Yes they are.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 3>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome home. We're going to be going to the phones

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<v Speaker 1>right after the next news break, so just know that

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<v Speaker 1>the number to reach me eight three to three to

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<v Speaker 1>ask Dean. I take calls randomly, and we've got quite

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<v Speaker 1>a few calls on the board. But there's still room

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<v Speaker 1>for you if you're thinking about it. Eight three three

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<v Speaker 1>two ask Dean. Okay, we're breaking down the essentials of

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<v Speaker 1>but taking advantage of the spaces that you've got. Yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>And no, this is not our only outdoor show. This

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the things that we ramp up with.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're anxious to get out and break loose

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<v Speaker 1>of cabin fever, and so we will be doing more

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<v Speaker 1>outdoor living stuff in the weeks ahead, no doubt, before

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<v Speaker 1>we dive into other things. But this is a very

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<v Speaker 1>junk jumping into the ultimate luxuries. But I want you comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're answering this question as a theme today. What's

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<v Speaker 1>it going to take to get you out side and

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<v Speaker 1>right now seating a place to sit, okay, a comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>place to sit and to watch nature's show unfold before you.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's just staring up at the stars, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the clouds passed by, whether it's just breathing

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<v Speaker 1>the fresh air, and you know what I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>do it a lot. I'm an outdoorsy kind of a person.

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<v Speaker 1>I spend a lot of time outdoors. We have a small,

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<v Speaker 1>small home, a lill small by American standards. We live

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<v Speaker 1>in what we call a little cottage of a home.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about thirteen hundred square feet, and that's after we

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<v Speaker 1>added a lot to it. It started out as nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty square feet. But the reason we bought

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<v Speaker 1>this property is that we're sitting on just a little

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<v Speaker 1>under you know, a third of an acre, about a

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<v Speaker 1>third of an acre, So we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>space outside that little cottage, and life just would not

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<v Speaker 1>be the same here without the fact that we spend

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<v Speaker 1>so much time out in the yard and outside. I

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<v Speaker 1>like it. I prefer it in most cases. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though our home is fresh and clean and the

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<v Speaker 1>air is clean and it's all lovely and beautiful, I

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<v Speaker 1>just none. Indoor air never compares to outside fresh air.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm willing to put up with whatever little inconveniences

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<v Speaker 1>along the way, But to be honest with you, there

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<v Speaker 1>aren't many. Because we have from a very minimal perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>taken advantage of it, answered all these questions, well, what's

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<v Speaker 1>it going to take to get us outside? So we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about seating, and I was giving you a

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<v Speaker 1>general principle that applies to everybody who's listening. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if you're just thinking about buying a new sofa

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<v Speaker 1>for your living room. The same principle applies. Always examined

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<v Speaker 1>the ergonomics of a piece of furniture before you commit

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<v Speaker 1>to it, because comfort and luxury is not simply about

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<v Speaker 1>big puffy cushions and soft and soft and soft and soft.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, soft, just like an overly soft bed, can

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<v Speaker 1>lead you aching and feeling uncomfortable and not enjoying the experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And so my point is this, I know this as

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute fact, okay, that a properly designed hard surface

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<v Speaker 1>chair can be far more comfortable than a poorly or

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<v Speaker 1>thoughtlessly designed super puffy cushy thing. Okay, And it just

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<v Speaker 1>so happens that the best value in patio furniture comes

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<v Speaker 1>from the fact that if you don't have cushions that

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<v Speaker 1>have to be monitored, moved, protected, replaced, if you just

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard surface chair. So everything from that perfect

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, I just interrupted my thought without

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<v Speaker 1>getting it out of my mouth. But that perfect rocking chair.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I am still in search of the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate rocking chair for my deck because I love them

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<v Speaker 1>the movement, and a rocking chair is a great example

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<v Speaker 1>a well designed rocking chair you sit down in and

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly you realize, oh, oh yeah, that's great. Right. For

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<v Speaker 1>years I had a solid walnut banker's chair sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>our office that I would design out of, and still

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<v Speaker 1>to this day, Tina and I sit in two hard

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<v Speaker 1>wooden chairs in our office for hours at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because they're beautifully designed, erbic, ergonomically, and they get

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<v Speaker 1>the job done and we do not get out of

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<v Speaker 1>them sore or anything like that. So again, this is

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<v Speaker 1>an encouragement to you. Okay, now, what do I have

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on my deck right now around our fire pit?

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<v Speaker 1>Always has been, always will be some really nice, nicely shaped,

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<v Speaker 1>rounded backed Adirondack chairs. Now, Adirondack chairs are not for everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are a comfortable, reclined a piece of patio

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<v Speaker 1>furniture that we have never had a guest ever say

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't sit in those because I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and if somebody has like a lower back problem, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>just grab a small cushion and put it behind like

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<v Speaker 1>a little lumbar support for them. But the fact of

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<v Speaker 1>the matter is these are resin based chairs made out

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<v Speaker 1>of recycled materials. They're black, they they don't show dirt well,

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<v Speaker 1>they weather any weather whatsoever. We never worry about them.

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<v Speaker 1>This morning, when I came out, they were covered in dew.

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<v Speaker 1>I just grabbed a little towel and I just wiped

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<v Speaker 1>one off, the one that I was going to sit in,

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<v Speaker 1>and I turned on the fire pit and boom, I

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<v Speaker 1>was there a comfortable chair. I can sit in that

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<v Speaker 1>chair literally for hours. Okay, so what do you need.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it going to take to get you outside? A

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable chair, A sixty thousand dollars patio set? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>just some comfortable chairs for you and a friend or

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<v Speaker 1>a small group of friends. That's all you need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to know what it is you're really looking

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<v Speaker 1>for in order to make your dollar go the furthest

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't take much to come up with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I think these actually came from Costco, to be perfectly honest,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have held up really, really well, no end

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<v Speaker 1>date in sight for these things, all right, when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back, We're gonna pause this conversation a bit, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be going to the phones, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we will return and we will talk about the next

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<v Speaker 1>thing it takes to get you outside, and that, just

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<v Speaker 1>to show my hand a little bit is probably a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of warmth and a little bit of shade, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And how do we break those down into their minimums.

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<v Speaker 1>We will do it all when we return. You are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper on KFI.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper.

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