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Speaker 1: Welcome to political beat down. Michael Cohen and I and

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this community is still standing. So we're still fighting. This

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community doesn't give up. This community moves forward, This community builds,

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this community supports each other. This community recognizes, of course

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that the results were horrible, tragic, pick your word. But

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also let's pick ourselves up together as a community and

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do what we have to do. Do we want to

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be in a resistance mode versus a build mode and

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do great things for people and improve people's lives mode.

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I would prefer to be in build people's lives mode

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and help people move forward based on how President Biden

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has actually led to some pretty great things that he

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doesn't get enough credit for by any means. But we

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talk about it here. But here we are, and I

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want to let everybody know. I want to look you

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in the eye through the YouTube channel or through the

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audio and let you know, Michael Cohen and I and

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our team are not going anywhere. Our resolve is stronger

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than ever, and we build and we grow stronger. We're

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here for you. We will always be here for you,

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and you know, we just have to pick ourselves up.

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That's my start at the beginning. But Cohen everybody wants

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to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So let me say this to all of our brigators. Right,

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despite the fact that the person who we wanted to

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win did not win, I think it's very important that

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everybody take the tempera. You're down for many different reasons.

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One for your own health, but two in order to heal.

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The country needs to heal. And many of you are

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now saying to yourself in your mind, yet, but how

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do we heal under an upcoming Trump administration? And you will.

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And I'm going to say something that many of you

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may find odd. I truly believe that the vitriolic rhetoric

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that we have heard over the course of the last

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ten months or so on Trump's campaign, I do not

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believe that any of it will be that any of

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it will come to fruition. I believe that at seventy

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nine years of age, Donald Trump legitimately wants to use

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this presidency as a legacy presidency. Now do I think

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he's going to do mass deportation? Absolutely? Why do I

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say that because in March of twenty seventeen, when I

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was in in the Oval office with him, that was

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the very first bill that he put forth and it

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was a complete disaster. This time, I believe that they

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have a different plan, maybe hopefully one that's actually thought

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out and not thought out by Steve Bannon and Steve Miller,

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but by people like Senator Langford. Maybe he's taking that

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bill and putting it forward. But I want people to

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stop with the dooman gloom. America will survive no matter what.

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America has survived many things since its inception two hundred

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and forty nine years ago. America will survive a Donald

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Trump administration. And I think what we also need to

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do is instead of constantly looking for the negative in him,

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because there are things, and you've heard me say it

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here on Political Beatdown, there are certain policies that Trump

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puts forth that I actually agree with. For example, I

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do believe that America should have type orders. I believe it.

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My wife came here legally, my father came here legally,

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friends of mine came here legally. People just don't have

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the right to enter the country and stay and then

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declare citizenship. So I do believe that. Now there are

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parts of that citizenship application that I don't agree with,

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but at the end of the day, no matter whether

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you like it, or not, Donald Trump will be the

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forty seventh president of the United States. We all should

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want our president, regardless of your political affiliation. We all

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should want our president to succeed, all right, we should

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because if the president succeeds, America succeeds, meaning we all

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get the benefit. And that's what we should want. My

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hope in my prayer is that he acts more what's

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the right word to say here, Ben, he acts more

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that on inauguration Day January twentieth, he comes out and

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he says, enough enough with the hatred, enough with the anger,

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enough with the vitriol. What we want is we want

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to be a unified United States of America. Please don't

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say that you disagree. We all want America to be

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its best. And he is going to be the president,

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whether we like it or not. And what we need

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to do is we and that's what Ben and I

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are going to continue to do here. We're going to

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continue to look at what is going on, and we're

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going to continue to report on it truthfully and factually,

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with accuracy and with facts. That's the important thing. If

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he does something which is great for America, I swear

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to you I will be the first one to come

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out and say I think this is fantastic. Then may

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not agree, but I think that this is fantastic. If

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he does something which I find to be abhorrent, I

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will be the first one, along with Ben, to turn

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around and to say that I find what he is abhorrent.

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And I truly hope that despite the fact that they'll

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probably have the House, the Senate, and the Presidency and

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the Supreme Court, I hope that it doesn't pass, and

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I hope that we as citizens of this country, ensure

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that that policy doesn't become law. This is just a reality,

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and we have to live within the reality. So when

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he says that he wants to be a dictator, I

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don't he's going to become a dictator over the four years.

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I don't believe that America's democracy is that easy to destroy.

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When he says that he's going to publicly execute Mark

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Milly for star General, I don't believe that that's going

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to happen. I really believe at seventy nine years of age,

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he wants this presidency to be a legacy presidency, and

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a lot of this is going to be determined by

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who ends up filling positions in the administration, So let's

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just wait and see.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I will always you know, where I

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disagree with Michael Cohen, I will I will say so Cohen,

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I appreciate that you believe that I I disagree with

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what you just said vehemently. I think that he wants

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to be a dictator on day one. I think bloody

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mass deportations, which they say is going to happen in

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and of itself, already tells you about how it's going

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to be going. And look, you and I may you know, have.

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Speaker 2: More disagreeable can I say? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I just look, I want to let you know that

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I trust him and his administration literally zero. I think

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they're going to do the things they say they're going

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to do. And you and I may have hearty debates

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about it one way or the other, but you know,

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I'm prepared right now when to do what Gavin Newsom's saying.

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When Gavin Newsom says we need an emergency special legislature

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right now to hunker down and protect people's freedoms, and

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I see that Trump's talking about bloody mass deportations, He's

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talking about putting cash Fatel and Rick Grinnell, the head

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of CIA. And you know, I mean, you know the

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types of things that Rick and Cash have have said.

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You know, I have no reason to give them any

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benefit of the doubt. And you know the way look

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what Biden said today about you know, I think we

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have to recognize the results of the election are what

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the results are. However, that doesn't mean we can you know,

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someone says bloody mass deportation. That means people living here

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will be ripped from their homes in bloody ways. So

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you know, you and I may have a slight disagreement,

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you know there over it.

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Speaker 2: But what I I.

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Speaker 1: Root for the country. But to me and rooting for

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the country, Donald Trump already said, as you hear my

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dogs in the background bark, and Donald Trump already lied

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to us.

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Speaker 2: He said the.

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Speaker 1: War in Ukraine was gonna end up day one.

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Speaker 2: And the war in Ukraine did it end today? Did

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it end today? So he's already liar right. Let me say,

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let me say one more, one more thing as it

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relates to this. I say what I'm saying. First of all,

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I am optimistic. Why because I know him. I've been

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around him long enough to know he will say whatever

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it takes in order to win what was the goal.

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The goal was to win the presidency for multiple reasons.

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The first and the most important, of course, is to

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avoid the accountability for the lawsuits he is now won.

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And I truly believe he will avoid all accountability, even

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on the cases that have already been decided. I believe

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he will. I do not believe Mershan is going to

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sentence a president elect, you know, to prison or to jail,

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or to anything. And I say this and again he

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talks tough, but we've heard this sort of rhetoric before

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and it never came to fruition. So my belief is

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that at seventy nine years of age, seventy nine, he's

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now accomplished something that has only been accomplished once before.

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That's two non consecutive presidential terms. I believe he actually

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wants to create a legacy for the name of one

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that is not tainted with dictatorship, with you know, anarchy,

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or any of the other sort of fascist words that

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you want to throw in there. And honestly, it's what

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I'm hoping. I don't have a crystal ball, right, I

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could have that magic eight ball shaken. Do you think

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that Donald try going to want to be a dictatory

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day one. Shake again, you know, you shake again, and

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it says no, yes, whatever it might. I don't have

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a crystal ball. It's my hole, and I have a

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lot of faith in, believe it or not, our democratic republic,

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and also many of the people who are serving right now,

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from as members of Congress, senators, governors, et cetera. I

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have to otherwise our country is doomed already, Cohen.

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Speaker 1: You know, I hope springs eternal, but I have to

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just be as as blunt as I can be, which

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is I have the mode in which I think what

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needs to happen is that when someone says a government

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that they're going to be a dictator on day one,

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they're going to be a dictator on day one. And

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right now to figure out here's what they're doing here,

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here's what they're doing here. I mean, look, you wanted

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to see what the MAGA people are posting. I mean

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they're out there on social media right now saying the

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most saying the most heinous things about women, saying you know,

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you know, you know, gloating over this, you know, I mean,

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saying things like, it's my honor to inform you all

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that Project twenty twenty five was real, was real the

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whole time. I mean, the guy ran a campaign on retribution.

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that he has the power and he's appointing people to

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get the retribution, how one can think that he's not

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going to go and do the thing that he said

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he does with absolute power. I mean, I truly think

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what we're building here, whether it's with congressmen you know

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other members of Congresses to educate people what you can

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do in this Like I want to hope. I want

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to be in hope world.

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Speaker 2: By the way, By the way, I want you to know,

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and I've said this before, what I just said is

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being said out of hope and optimism. I want that.

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And again, knowing him better than pretty much almost anybody,

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including some of the Syco fans that are still hanging

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around him, I truly believe that there is no way

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in the world that you're going to see public executions.

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Speaker 1: Same thing about Musk on Twitter. Remember when remember when

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Musk went on Twitter and you said I think he's

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going to use this platform, you know, because you're the

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last half full, even in the crappiest of moments. And

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this is why I love you as a close friend.

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types of things you're saying now, you were saying about

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Musk and you were saying, I don't think he's going

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to turn And remember you said I don't think you're

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going to go in that direction, because I honestly think

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that you are. And I mean this sincerely, got everybody watching.

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I've known Cohen now as the most loving family man.

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Every time I speak to him, I hear about his

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beautiful family, his wife, his daughter, his son, what they're doing.

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I've never actually spoken to many people in my life

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who have the kind of heart that Michael Cohen has.

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At the same time, Cohen, you know when when Musk

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that I I don't think everyone's saying he's going to

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do terrible things. Would you agree that he made Twitter

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even worse than your wilence?

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent? One hundred percent. What I'm I'm trying

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to be is I'm trying to be optimistic, but I

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want to be a realist. You know, I see some

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people say, you know, you gotta stay, stay the fighter

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that you are. By the way, come January twentieth, as

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whether I'm a Seal Team six fighter or whether I'm

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an intergalactic warrior. Donald Trump is going to be inaugurated

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as the forty seven president of the United States. Whether

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we like it or not, that is a fact. My

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belief is that the system will not allow him to

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do the things that he had claimed that he wanted

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to do. What we did over the course of the

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past year on this program with our brigadors, with all

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of you, is we called out the statements that he

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made because they should have been without exaggeration. They should

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have been the basis for him not to be either

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elected president or even be allowed to run. But that

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didn't happen. And so now that he accomplished, and remember,

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Donald will say anything that he needs to say to win.

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I believe a lot of the rhetoric, especially the ultra vitriolic.

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The problem though, is MAGA still believes that crap. Where

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he is really trying to now, I guess dial it

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back a little bit, and that way you're not expecting

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that other than.

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Speaker 1: Your house, other than your hope. And I understand. Look,

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anybody out there right now though in the chat or

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whoever you know, you know that you think you know, like, hey, Cohen,

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what do you mean by Cohen's been? Cohen took the

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freaking stand against this guy from you know, from Cohen's

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been in front of Congress nine times. So let me

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say this about Cohen. There's probably no one who's trying

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to hold this guy more accountable and put more of

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his life in courtrooms, in congressional hearings and in general.

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And who's who's been just so everybody knows and you

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all know this from joining Cohen was put in solitary

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confinement by this guy. So the fact that I'm having

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this disagreement with Cohen very live and very and very publicly,

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you know, one is my commitment to just giving you

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my opinions. And I'm not just gonna as you all know,

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I'm gonna give you my opinions if I disagree with them.

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But I also think it's important to reflect on I

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I don't know Trump the way you know him. I

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wasn't testifying. I've I've stopped being doing my other job

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to quit to create this media platform. But what I've

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done is pals. Let me be clear to everybody, it

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pales in comparison anywhere near Cohen and Cohen. I know

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your close to this, but all I have to express

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is there in my perspective, and I'm a little I'm

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removed from this in a different way than you're not.

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And I understand why you feel the way, but there's

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He has done zero since the election to make me

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believe he's moderating or modulating his language. In fact, every

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data point I have from what his spokesperson Caroline Levitt

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says to what Cash Patel says, he had Byron Donald's

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Byron Donald's on talking about the deportations and what's going

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to be critical right now, as you know what I

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love for Midas not to be on the front lines

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of resistance. Hell yes, I would like to talk about

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expanding people's healthcare, making people, you know, improving the Infrastructure

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Act stuff, not being in a mode of hey, everybody,

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they're saying this, we need to contact these people in

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your family to protect them. But that's the mode we're in,

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and I just I don't know any data point that

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you have to suggest that all of a sudden there's

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major differences, you know, other than hope.

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Speaker 2: I don't other than hope, which is how I started

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it all by saying I have to and again I

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do know him. Many things he has said over the

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years which were very tough talk he never followed through on.

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I can only hope because I love this country and

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I love our brigaders, and you know, I want to

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be optimistic. I want to be hopeful because without it,

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what do we have to walk around right now for

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the next seventy days in fear. I just don't think

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that the systems. I don't think that fifty plus percent

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of our population would stand for this horseshit. Whether he

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has the courts, whether he has you know, whether he

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has the Senate and or the House, it doesn't make

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a difference. I just don't believe that Americans will stand

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for imprisoning people because they're critics, or shutting down ABC,

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NBCCBS because they said something bad about him, or shutting

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down newspapers and so on, or instituting what is the Act,

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the Insurrection Act, that he'll be able to hold people

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for treason if they say things that are bad about

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the President. I just don't buy it. I know that

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it riled up his MAGA base, but I just don't

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believe it as much as as much as it's possible.

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Don't get me wrong, I just don't believe it. And

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I don't want to live in fear, all right. I

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don't want to live that he's going to do something,

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because I promise you I will be the first one

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to stand up and not permit it. All right. I

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will not stop my fight simply. But I'm hoping, and

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I'm optimistic somewhat that there won't be this type of fight.

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Speaker 1: I spoke with congress Member Eric Swallwell earlier in the day.

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Let me play for you, a congress Member. Swalwell said,

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if we have it, Jeremy, let's play that note. So,

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congress Member, not the result that people wanted. I'm telling

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our audience, though, now is not the time to give up.

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Not the time to give up hope. Now is the

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time to get to work. You put out a message

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today to that effect. What's your message to everybody out there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get loud and let's get going. Because if

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a young woman in Florida where a six week band

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is now the law of the land can get up

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today and find her way through, we can too.

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Speaker 2: And if a soldier and a trench in eastern Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: Who just saw their best ally walk away from them

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can keep fighting, we can too. And if a high

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school student who's going to go to school today in

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a country that's going to arm mass shooters to the

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teeth and they're still going to get through it.

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Speaker 2: We can too. It doesn't feel good to lose. It sucks.

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I hate it.

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Speaker 3: I hate what this winner says about our country and

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the people who make it so great. But we have

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work to do. We've dealt with this guy before. He's

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a one term president coming in. He's in serious cognitive decline.

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We're not helpless. We are privileged to be among those

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who can do something. And by the way, there's no

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time to mourn or grieve for too long, because the

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next play is going to happen pretty soon when he

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starts to nominate all of the cabinet officials who will

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implement Trump's Project twenty twenty five. So we got to

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be loud.

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Speaker 2: We have to get.

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Speaker 3: In front of all of the senators who are going

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to be voting on this and make our cases to

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them as to why people like Rick Grennell and Cash

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Betel and all these others in the rogues gallery cannot

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be in charge of our country. Why our kids need

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vaccine and we're not going to let RFK Junior as

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the Health Secretary take them away. So there's a lot

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of plays coming down the field, and so we should

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you be upset, but let's put our helmets on, get

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back on the field and defend you know, the yardage

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between us and Project twenty twenty five becoming the law

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of the land.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. Let me be very clear though,

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to all the mightas mighty out there, this network will

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be on the front lines of the resistance against fascism period,

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full stop, each and every day. And there may be disagreements,

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there will be resistance here and we will not let

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fascism take over at any point take over this country

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and hope springs eternal. But also we've got to be

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clear eyed. I think in some of these situations, I

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got to hit the first ad break when we come back,

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maybe more spirited, robust debate and discussion on this episode,

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but a lot more data to go over. Let's take

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you all agree with, is now more than ever, we

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need pro democracy, independent media. You know, it's my view

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that corporate media beyond screwed this up. I think we

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see corporate media in the control of billionaire oligarchs who

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have agendas, and so we have to find creative ways

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to build platforms, and we don't have out side investors.

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of you know, my assessment of what we do here.

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For those who have been watching my videos, I don't

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think it's been productive to, you know, to point the

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finger and blame this group or blame that group. I

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order to win. But I'll tell you to take honestly,

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that pisses me off the most. Right now, it's people,

477
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and you may disagree with this. We may get into

478
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:39,200
more heated debates on this episode. It's people who are

479
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:45,039
blaming President Biden, and there there are a group of

480
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,880
people out there who are attacking Biden. We had to

481
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,920
dig ourselves up from what Biden created. I hear that

482
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,519
over and over again, and for those who watch this,

483
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,720
you know that I was one of the voices out

484
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,519
there that was saying originally that I think that President

485
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,119
Biden should not have dropped out at that time. I'm

486
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,279
on the record of saying it, so it's not a shocker.

487
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:12,319
I wanted to make sure you know, we were supportive

488
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,519
of what happened after. I think Vice President Kamala Harris

489
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:19,559
and Governor Wallas, in my view, they ran a good campaign.

490
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,440
She clearly won the debate, you know, and I thought

491
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that that they had a unifying message. But the people

492
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,119
who are saying we had to pick ourselves up from Biden,

493
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,759
Let's be clear. Biden in twenty twenty got eighty one

494
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:37,960
million votes. Say what you want to say. He was

495
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,559
able to build a coalition that was a winning one. Also,

496
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,799
in my view, if people spent the same amount of

497
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:52,319
time on the Democratic side tearing Biden down, a boy,

498
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680
were they good at a Cohen when they wanted to

499
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:03,799
go op eds every freaking day twenty four Imagine a Democrat.

500
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:08,160
Imagine if you all spent ten percent of the time

501
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:15,440
actually explaining what his economic record truly was and explaining

502
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,960
that America was leading the world in GDP, that the

503
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,880
Infrastructure Act, the Inflation Reduction Act that was led by

504
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,440
Biden led to historic investments. Maybe if you spent the

505
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,759
same amount of time as attacking a successful incumbent president

506
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:38,200
actually messaging that Biden supported a bipartisan border bill that

507
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,599
was being killed, rather than buying into right wing talking

508
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,839
points to attack your successful president. That's my hot take

509
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,400
on it. By the way, I think Kamala and Walls

510
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:51,160
they did what they had to do. I thought that

511
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,240
I was supportive of the campaign. I'm not making any

512
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:56,400
comments ooh, do I think that it would have been

513
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,119
different if this happened or that. My point is that

514
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,279
there's a lot of pointing fingers and blaming, and the

515
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:05,799
one that pisses me off the most where I will

516
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,880
vocalize it on this show are those who say we

517
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,599
had to dig out of Biden or Biden this dig

518
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,119
out of someone who got the person who beat him

519
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:18,000
and rather than help him and run to his side,

520
00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:22,640
to tear down a good freaking person, a decent man,

521
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,960
that one I just I have to I have to

522
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:29,319
call that out here on beat down.

523
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:33,599
Speaker 2: Look, let me let me say this because I know

524
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,759
that there's a lot. First of all, there's a ton

525
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:39,519
of trolls that are that are here today, and everybody

526
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,759
is welcome at the political beatdown, you know, Indictment Watch

527
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:50,279
and our Midas Touched network show. Everybody's welcome. But here's

528
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:54,640
the important thing to understand it. First and foremost, Joe

529
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,839
Biden came out yesterday in a short but in a

530
00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:02,759
suite and in a wonderful, wonderful way, in just a

531
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:05,960
few minutes five minutes of a speech, went ahead and

532
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:10,400
acknowledged that the election was fair. Do you know how

533
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,119
many people in our comments so far had said that

534
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,800
there was some election fraud and so on. Let's not

535
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:23,440
be like them. Everything isn't a conspiracy theory. Let's not

536
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,199
dream something up that didn't happen. All right, the American

537
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,280
people spoke, It's not what I wanted that I can

538
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,400
assure you, and its why for at least a year

539
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,119
we were talking about you have to listen to what

540
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:41,760
he's saying in order to make the determination that he

541
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,719
is not best suited over someone like Kamala Harris to

542
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,639
run this country for the next four years, but that's

543
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,880
not what the plurality of Americans decided. So here's what

544
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,679
they did not cheat, And we have to stop it

545
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,159
because we sound as ridiculous as they are. Everything is

546
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:05,280
not a conspiracy theory. So let's just calm ourselves and

547
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,719
understand that our democracy, our democratic republic, is really strong

548
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:16,320
and it will not, my hope allow for the bullshit

549
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:20,039
that they're talking about to ultimate. Do I say none

550
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:23,039
of it will occur? No, I believe some of it

551
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:25,519
will occur. But do I believe that we will end

552
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:28,719
up in a dictatorship or a fur a scenario. I

553
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,239
pray to God no, because I want to be able

554
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,199
to leave to my children, and God will leave one

555
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,199
day my grandchildren and willing great grandchildren. I want to

556
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,760
leave them a better country than what I inherited from

557
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,679
my parents and grandparents and so on. Isn't that what

558
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,480
we're all supposed to want? So take it, take it down,

559
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,320
take it down. All we can do is wait and see.

560
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,239
People are either here or they're here all right, and

561
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:01,679
nobody knows what's going to happen. I'm just positing a

562
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:07,960
different stance whereby we understand we will remain a brigade,

563
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,039
we will remain active. And there are many people like

564
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:15,800
Congressman Swallowell, like Congressman Rasking, like dozens of members of

565
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,280
Congress and the Senate that also feel that we will

566
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,920
keep an eye on everything that's going on, and we

567
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,559
will call it out, and we will create our brigade

568
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,360
in order to ensure that if they go ahead and

569
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,679
they try to do stupid things that will destroy our democracy,

570
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:43,679
that we will put a stop to it somehow, some way.

571
00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: Well until there's some miraculous magic wand that erases every

572
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,079
time he says he wants to be a dictator on

573
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:55,960
day one, and a magic wand that removes the Supreme

574
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:01,599
Court giving this individual absolute immunity to engage in the

575
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:06,119
dictatorial ambitions. And the only things that I've seen so

576
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,599
far when you say Cohen that you know, maybe he'll

577
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,559
do some of the things, Okay, let's let's just say this.

578
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,079
Let's just say some of the things. And you've and

579
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:21,559
you've said earlier in the show that you think he's

580
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:25,559
going to do bloody deportations, right, you said that, right, correct.

581
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 2: I believe that there will be a mass deportation.

582
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So one, okay, so on day one. What you're

583
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:37,119
agreeing with me on is that he will do bloody

584
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,599
mass deportations.

585
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: I don't know about bloody deportations, but mass deportations definitely.

586
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:45,840
They will start working on that day number.

587
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: When you say you don't think it'll be bloody, uh uh.

588
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,519
Speaker 2: Not not well hold on, hold on, I didn't say

589
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:57,880
that it's not going to be bloody. I just believe

590
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,639
that they will try to do it where it's not bloody,

591
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,000
but they will try to pass.

592
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: Let let's play it out. Knock knock, who's there, Ice,

593
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,920
We're coming for your family. Knock knock, who's there? Where

594
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,519
the police? Why are you here? We're looking for grandma.

595
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:23,760
We're looking for so and so. Okay, Uh, come on in.

596
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,559
Uh it's okay, Hey hey grandma, they're here for you. Okay,

597
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:32,280
all right, bye, I see you later. That's not how

598
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,840
it's How.

599
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Speaker 2: Do you think? Let me tell you how I think.

600
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Speaker 1: It's gonna It's gonna go down like this, we're putting

601
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in your house. That's how they's gonna go down. And

602
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:44,760
then you're gonna say, no, you're not touching my freaking grandma.

603
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: You're not touching what I think? What I think? Well,

604
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:48,880
and that's.

605
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: Gonna and that's gonna happen right now in America among

606
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:56,039
people who are actually contributing to our economy and a

607
00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:59,800
deflationary period. I mean, let's we have to be clear idea.

608
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: So even the thing happens, well, okay, let me say

609
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,199
what I what I believe will ultimately happen. Right off

610
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:11,199
the bat, there are locations, hotels, et cetera, where they

611
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,079
have migrants that are stayed. I don't believe they're going

612
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:17,760
knock knock knock on people's home doors, not yet. I

613
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,320
believe at first what they're going to do is they're

614
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,679
going to take the migrants that are now under government assistance,

615
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,960
whether it's in the hotels and so on, and they're

616
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,719
going to round them up either put them on buses

617
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,320
or planes, and they're going to take them over the border.

618
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:34,760
That's exactly what I believe that he's going to do,

619
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,000
because it's easy for them to They already know where

620
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:39,599
these people are. That's gonna happen.

621
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Speaker 1: You think they're just gonna take it. I mean, if

622
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,280
you have, you think they're just gonna so. So there's

623
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,159
gonna be like, hey, yeah, let's go on this great

624
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:49,079
trip everybody.

625
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: We're ready, We're ready.

626
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Speaker 1: We've been here for thirty years. See everybody.

627
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Speaker 2: People are not here thirty years. These people are here

628
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,159
for six months, for seven months. I'm talking about the migrants.

629
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:02,559
But right now, well do you base that on our

630
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,159
migrants that are in hotels? All right? The migrants that

631
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:10,000
are right now in communities that are already being subsidized

632
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,719
by government because it's easy for them to round them up.

633
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,840
And what it does for Trump is it shows his

634
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,599
base that he's fulfilling a promise that he made.

635
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, look, there's probably a subset of individuals who

636
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are here working their asses off to do jobs that

637
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,679
other people don't want to do, and they'll be bloodily

638
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,599
mass deportated or have bloody MAT's deportations. There is a

639
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:41,639
group of people, though, and I don't know where you know,

640
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,159
we're positing that he's not going to go after the

641
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:47,719
people who are who don't have their papers for thirty

642
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,280
years or twenty years, or ten years or forty years.

643
00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:54,039
But I suspect that when Steven Miller is put in

644
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:57,719
charge of that, not only has Steven Miller said that

645
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,639
he's going to go after them, but he can go

646
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:03,079
after people who were born here in the United States

647
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:05,880
because they don't believe in citizenship on the basis of

648
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,559
people who were born here. You take what they said.

649
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,239
I mean, the videos of Steven Miller from high school

650
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,079
is videos of him attacking janitors and saying, you're supposed

651
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:21,039
to pick up my food, you know. I mean, these

652
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:25,679
are not people who have engaged in behavior that leads

653
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:28,280
me to believe, all right, we're just trying to appease

654
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,119
the base here. We're going after this group of people.

655
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,000
Even if they went after that group of people, could

656
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:37,480
you imagine the civil and social unrest that would be

657
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:41,960
caused targeting people who are in this country. Throwing people

658
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,639
on buses. I mean, we're gonna have images of people

659
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,920
being loaded onto buses because they're here doing jobs that,

660
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,920
by the way, decrease inflation, you know, whether we like

661
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,840
it or not, and work in their ass. That's what

662
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,159
we want to see every day on the news and

663
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:02,679
on TV. I mean, that would that would even break

664
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,920
my heart. But the moment they would start knocking on

665
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,280
doors and and and say that's what they say they're

666
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,679
gonna do, I just think we have to go into

667
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:10,559
this clear eide.

668
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: I think while you're talking about being clearoid, you don't

669
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,039
have the crystal ball. Neither do I. And maybe I

670
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:24,280
am being stupidly optimistic. Maybe I'm being stupidly hopeful, but

671
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:30,559
I would like to believe that we're better than them.

672
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,280
I would like to believe that the American people. I

673
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,519
believe he's going to go after the low hanging fruit

674
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:40,920
with the migrants. I don't believe that the Daka or

675
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,280
those that have been here thirty years and so on,

676
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,320
are going to be able to be supported. I just.

677
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we have to forget being clear. Let's

678
00:42:52,440 --> 00:43:00,320
let's let's just going after low hanging fruit. Okay, we're

679
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,840
talking about human and I know you know this and

680
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,559
this this, we're talking about human beings. We're not talking

681
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:10,239
about you know, and I know it's an analogy. We're

682
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,440
still talking about people. And we're the United States of America.

683
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:17,800
So even if in my view, you took away everything else,

684
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,320
everything else, he doesn't do, but low hanging fruit means

685
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:27,880
going after a group of human beings and treating them

686
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,800
worse than we would actually treat cattle, or even treating

687
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,039
them as equivalent of cattle. We're still the United States

688
00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:39,519
of America, and that's not how we act. I don't

689
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:42,679
want to see human beings even if they're if they're migrants,

690
00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:46,280
there's still human there's still human beings who deserve to

691
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,320
be treated like human beings at that level, you know.

692
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,639
But then I don't have a crystal ball, but I

693
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,800
have a memory of everything that's been said and a

694
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,239
memory of what's being said yesterday. And my memory is

695
00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:01,039
what I'm going And I'm.

696
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,559
Speaker 2: Just trying to say that I find that a lot

697
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:05,280
of what Trump says talk is cheap. It's being like

698
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,679
a texting tough guy and so on, you know, like

699
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,000
the way that many of the trolls here are. You know,

700
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,079
my point being, there are still systems in place. I

701
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:19,039
believe he is dangerous, and I believe that the people

702
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:22,320
around him are very, very dangerous, but I do believe

703
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:28,079
that the system will prevent much of what Donald keeps

704
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:31,239
talking about at least. Again. Let me say is I

705
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,519
may be foolishly optimistic and hopeful, and I may be

706
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:40,280
trying to project some goodness onto a group of bad people. Yeah,

707
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,480
I may be guilty of that, but I want to

708
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:50,280
live in a country where freedom and democracy reigns. Even

709
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,079
though I am not you me. I am the first

710
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,559
and the one and only political prisoner held by this

711
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,039
country because I used to waive my First Amendment constitutional right.

712
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But what ultimately happened, Thank God for Judge Alvin k. Hellestein,

713
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a guy who could not be corrupted by anybody, went

714
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ahead signed the habeas petition and ultimately had me returned.

715
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All right, that there are systems, I'm hoping there are systems.

716
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Speaker 1: Well, you could hope, but that was before there was

717
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absolute immunity.

718
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Speaker 2: And now community ben only applies to him, not to

719
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,480
any of the others that carry out his wishes. And

720
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:34,159
once it only applies to him.

721
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: Okay, well, then well then what happens when his justice

722
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,360
department does it?

723
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,559
Speaker 2: You're going to assume that's a problem.

724
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you know we here. Here's what I think,

725
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:54,039
and I believe that first and foremost, more than anybody

726
00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:57,559
in this country or perhaps equal to the top tier,

727
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:03,079
that you've sacrificed literally you've been put in a prison

728
00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:07,519
cell and solitary confinement. I believe that you're very close

729
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:13,199
to the situation. And I believe that this what has

730
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:19,599
occurred right now, given your past situations and the sacrifice

731
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:24,360
that you have as a survival reaction to all of this.

732
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:31,199
The reaction, it's hard to fathom it. I can't put myself.

733
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,079
Speaker 2: In your Maybe I'm being as gullible as my father

734
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:38,440
and his family. Hold on. Maybe I'm being as glible

735
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,239
as my father and his family when they were in Poland,

736
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,719
in Bohnia, cracked al and Tarnell Poland, and they never

737
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,360
thought in their wildest imagination that something is bad as

738
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,840
the Nazis would actually occur, and the horrible, horrific things

739
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,639
that took place. Maybe I'm being naive. I'll acknowledge that

740
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,079
maybe I'm being gullible, and I don't think you're being However,

741
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:11,039
I do truly want to be optimistic because at this

742
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:16,480
present moment, while we need to stay vigilant, and we

743
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:20,159
need to stay we need to stay in control of

744
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:24,719
ourselves and try to protect one another, there's very little

745
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:28,679
that we can do. So I am truly hoping that

746
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,679
the systems will prevail. I know.

747
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,039
Speaker 1: Look, it's not for me or anybody in this chat

748
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:41,119
to say Cohen, you're being naive or gullible. What you've

749
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:46,679
done in standing up to this before is something that

750
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:48,159
we can't Nobody.

751
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,679
Speaker 2: Else has done. Nobody else in this country has done.

752
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: So none of us should be judging that you're gullible

753
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:00,719
or you're whatever. I'm simply providing you with the respective

754
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,920
of someone who's not lived your life experience to say,

755
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:08,960
here's the data. Not a crystal ball, but here's the

756
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:12,360
data that for me suggests a certain thing. We're having

757
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,840
spirited debate here and discussion. We have one quick break

758
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that we have to take. Let's take that quick break

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and then let's uh, let's let's have this debate more.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to beat Down. As I've said before, those

816
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ads fund this show. We don't have outside investors. It's

817
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through pro Democrat see sponsors that we exist and we grow.

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Speaker 2: And this are just some other things. But that's how

819
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:08,480
we go. Can I say something real quick? So one

820
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:11,559
of our brigadors, Lady Cat, turned around and she says

821
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:15,719
something which I totally agree with. What's wrong with having hope?

822
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,719
If you don't have hope, what do you have fear?

823
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,800
Let me set each and every one of you straight,

824
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,639
all right. I stood up to Donald Trump while you

825
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:34,800
watched me on television, either being taken away or being reincarcerated,

826
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:40,000
or watching as I was self surrendering at Otisville. I

827
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:44,440
stood up. I stood up for over forty plus hours

828
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,239
testifying against a man who is now going to be

829
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,840
the president of the United States. And I want to

830
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,039
be very clear about something if in fact my hope

831
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:58,039
is wrong, I will stand up again. I'm not running anywhere.

832
00:52:58,119 --> 00:53:00,360
I'm not going anywhere. This is my country, where my

833
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,079
family is. I don't I don't run. I didn't run before.

834
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,920
I'm not running again. I just want to be hopeful

835
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:09,760
and optimistic, plain and simple.

836
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: I want to talk about we we if those who

837
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:20,719
watched beat Down probably what maybe two months ago you

838
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,760
and I had another kind of spirited debate and discussion

839
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:26,800
and it was about gen Z. Do you remember it?

840
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,519
Cohen and I had And one of the things that

841
00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:33,480
I had said then, you know, was I said, the

842
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:38,639
one area that I don't have real insight on right now,

843
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:42,920
you know, which I needed to dig into more. You know,

844
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,400
we had talked about, you know, a growing issue specifically

845
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,760
with Latino men swinging to Trump, and we saw that,

846
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,199
but but people had been talking about that then. The

847
00:53:54,280 --> 00:54:00,400
thing that I had flagged was gen Z men were

848
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:06,039
sixteen seventeen during the pandemic who were now watching the

849
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:10,159
Logan Paul's and the Rogans and the Theo Vonn's and

850
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:13,880
you know, all of those you know pods, And I

851
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:18,000
think about if I was their age when I was

852
00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:21,639
at GW where I went to college, the types of

853
00:54:21,679 --> 00:54:24,880
things that I would be watching, and I remember I

854
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,400
was saying, how there is a pipeline from kind of

855
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:34,480
gamer to kind of right wing podcasts. But some of

856
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:39,199
the masquerade as you know, just talking about sports or

857
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:44,679
talking about girls, or talking about humor or doing jokes,

858
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,039
and then they kind of bring you, you know, whether

859
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:51,079
kind of directly or just kind of through the funnel

860
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:54,679
of you know, all these people you know, to a

861
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,360
level that's a little more political in nature, and it

862
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,519
starts getting pretty maga ish, and then it kind of

863
00:55:03,559 --> 00:55:08,079
brings you into the maga fold. The right wing billionaires

864
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:11,199
know about this. They're spending a lot of money on

865
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,840
that funnel. Leonard Leo, who's rearranged the courts with the

866
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:21,400
Federalist Society, is spending his money directly there. But very

867
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:26,880
frequently when you saw high gen Z turnout, a lot

868
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:31,880
of that split fairly evenly, and you would see people

869
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:35,519
you know who were you know, you know, these guys

870
00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:41,280
in college who were voting for Trump, and and people

871
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:46,119
would the orthodoxy would be, oh gen Z voters, They're

872
00:55:46,519 --> 00:55:49,599
they're clearly going to vote for you know what there

873
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,840
in theory on paper, what their interests are they'll be

874
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,239
more liberal, they'll vote for you know, they'll vote for Democrats.

875
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:03,519
But it did college age students not necessarily going in

876
00:56:03,519 --> 00:56:06,920
that direction. And so why am I bringing it up

877
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,639
because I think one of the things that we have

878
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,920
to do and we have to kind of, you know, recalibrate,

879
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:20,159
because the right wing has used alpha and used alpha

880
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,559
in the sense of punching down at marginalized communities, bullying people,

881
00:56:26,519 --> 00:56:31,880
mocking people, mocking the other, taking away women's rights as

882
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,920
being this kind of you know, alpha thing, when that's

883
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,719
not alpha. I think respecting people and standing up for people,

884
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,679
you know, you know, is alpha. But as we have

885
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,679
to rebuild and reconsider and rethink, we have to learn

886
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,639
certain lessons. And to me, there should never be a

887
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:56,760
lesson where you know, democrats are pro democracy. Messaging has

888
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,400
to be well, look the other sides, demeaning people or

889
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,920
attacking people's fundamental rights. So if we want voters, that's

890
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,800
the wrong lesson. But the right lesson is you have

891
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,119
to speak to communities and you have to talk to

892
00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:15,800
them and you and you can't ignore communities and just

893
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,280
think that they're going in certain directions. And that was

894
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,039
one of the major factors. When you look at the data,

895
00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:25,719
where did Trump gain those voters? He gained the voters

896
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:29,679
in certain specific areas. So I flag that here, and

897
00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:31,159
you and I had that debate if you.

898
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: Remember, yep, you know. One of the other things that

899
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,960
I just want to say is I will remain hopeful

900
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:42,760
and optimistic that things aren't going to be as bad

901
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,880
right as all the various different vitriolic comments that he

902
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,760
has made over the course of the campaign, until such

903
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,800
time as I no longer can be optimistic and hopeful.

904
00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:00,320
And then and then and only then, well, I come

905
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,159
out as I have done before, as I have done

906
00:58:03,239 --> 00:58:06,199
and suffered over the last six years. I'm willing to

907
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:12,159
go the extra mile for this country, for America's Democratic Republic.

908
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:17,639
But at this moment, nothing, there's nothing going on other

909
00:58:17,719 --> 00:58:21,119
than let's just turn around and try to see where

910
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,079
we fucked up as the Democratic Party, to try to

911
00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:31,119
understand going forward what was wrong, plain and simple, and

912
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:33,719
the worst thing that we can do is try to

913
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:39,360
blame it on Iran, Russia, North Korea and so on,

914
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:43,159
that this is fixed and we need investigations into it.

915
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,960
That's the worst thing we could do. There were mistakes

916
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,480
that were made in fact, just so many of you know.

917
00:58:48,719 --> 00:58:52,960
I had multiple conversations with the Harris campaign on things

918
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,679
that I felt was going wrong and completely ignored it.

919
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,440
Whereas what Trump does is they have talking points that

920
00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:04,760
go out every single day. There lies, but they're talking points,

921
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,119
and everybody stays on the same message, so it gets

922
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:12,400
regurgitated over and over and over again, plain and simple.

923
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:16,199
Let me just end this episode today with my two

924
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:20,239
fingers salute goes to anyone who didn't vote. All right,

925
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,760
I'm not even gonna turn around and say who you

926
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,280
should vote for. Too many Americans didn't vote, and those

927
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,679
Americans fuck you because our situation right now, because I

928
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,920
truly believe that Kamala Harris would have been a better

929
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,440
president going forward than Donald Trump. But at the end

930
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:41,079
of the day, the American people spoke. We all need

931
00:59:41,159 --> 00:59:45,000
to stay hopeful, my opinion, we need to stay optimistic

932
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,079
until such time as we don't until such time as

933
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:54,840
there's actual information and a reality that something is going

934
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,760
the wrong way. And then you're gonna come and you're

935
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,639
gonna see me in action, along with people like Ben

936
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,000
and Swallwell and Rare Skin and dozens of other people.

937
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: I give the two fingers salute to anybody who's talking

938
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,519
about mass deportations right now the way Byron Donald's on

939
01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:16,840
maga Is and Caroline Levitt. If you think it's alpha

940
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:22,280
to rip apart families in bloody mass deportation exercises to

941
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,880
appeal to voters, then I say f you, because America

942
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,320
is so much better than that. And the fact that

943
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,280
in the past twenty four hours they've been messaging mass

944
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:40,519
deportations and to people who voted to deport their own

945
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:46,159
family members, for you're in for a rude awakening when

946
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,599
ice is knocking at your doors. But here's the thing.

947
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,559
If you did that, if you voted to deport your

948
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:58,199
own relatives, guess what, I'm not still going to abandon you.

949
01:00:58,239 --> 01:01:00,800
And there are some creators out there who were like,

950
01:01:01,639 --> 01:01:05,920
you're on your own, see you later, good luck with that.

951
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,880
That's not the messaging that comes out of midas touched,

952
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,559
because that's not how I feel. If I see a

953
01:01:12,679 --> 01:01:17,519
fellow human being, even someone who voted against their interest,

954
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,360
whose family member is now suffering in the United States

955
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,000
of America, I cannot lie, just not in my nature.

956
01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:29,199
I'm sorry. I can't look at you and be like well,

957
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,519
guess what you did that? Screw you, bye bye. I

958
01:01:33,639 --> 01:01:37,800
believe that we still have to be the voice for

959
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,280
people out there, and I don't want to see human

960
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,840
beings in the United States of America who are suffering

961
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:51,360
at all at the hands of our government. So this

962
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:56,679
network will be the front lines of resistance to that. Sure,

963
01:01:57,039 --> 01:02:00,840
hope may spring eternal, but we got to look at

964
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,039
this for what it is, and we're gonna call it

965
01:02:03,039 --> 01:02:06,360
out each and every day. Every morning, there will be

966
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,320
bulletins of what's happening, what they're saying, how to protect

967
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,079
family members, what to do. We're gonna highlight leadership like

968
01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:17,960
that from Gavin Newsom, who's already calling a special session

969
01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:22,599
in the California legislature to protect the state of California

970
01:02:22,599 --> 01:02:26,119
and to protect its citizens and its people. Here. We're

971
01:02:26,119 --> 01:02:28,920
going to highlight other governors who step up. We did

972
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,599
a video, or we're going to release a video on

973
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:33,880
Jerome Powell, chairman of the Federal Reserve, who says he's

974
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,280
not leaving even if Donald Trump tells him that he

975
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,199
has to go. We are going to fight for our

976
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:44,920
institutions here, and I look forward to a day where

977
01:02:45,159 --> 01:02:48,400
again it could be more RESTful where we can be

978
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,119
talking more about building. I would have freaking loved that

979
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,920
today to talk about that. And to all the trolls

980
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,679
in here, you're just trolling yourself. I'll tell you why,

981
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:02,079
because you're never going to take love out of my heart.

982
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:05,280
Even if he comes after you trolls, which I'm sure

983
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,159
he'll probably do one day, I'm still gonna fight for

984
01:03:08,239 --> 01:03:11,320
your civil rights. I'm still gonna be on the front lines.

985
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,679
When I was a civil rights lawyer, I didn't ask

986
01:03:13,719 --> 01:03:16,840
my clients if they were Democrats or Republicans, if they

987
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,000
were suffering at the hands of the government, I was

988
01:03:20,039 --> 01:03:23,119
there by their side. And the commitment that I make

989
01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:25,880
to all of you, Midas Mighty, is that's what we're

990
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,920
gonna do. That's what this network is going to be about.

991
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,920
We love you, we're grateful for you, and we have

992
01:03:32,039 --> 01:03:35,320
no place to go but to grow, but to protect,

993
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,119
but to support, but to defend our constitution and our

994
01:03:39,199 --> 01:03:42,440
values and our principle. So you could all troll on that.

995
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:44,599
Thanks for watching, and we'll see you next time. On

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01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:45,760
Political Beatdown,

