1 00:00:13,599 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: How's it going, Clippers fans? Welcome to the Day After 2 00:00:19,879 --> 00:00:22,960 Red Saturday, or whatever we want to call the game 3 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,879 seven that the Clippers theoretically played in. I'm Chuck Wickler 4 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,640 joined by Adam Os. When we're doing a little live 5 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:31,960 hang decompression, when we're going to do a full episode 6 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,640 with the crew early next week. You're listening to the 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,600 pod and you'd like to hang out for some of these, 8 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:43,759 check us out at YouTube dot com slush at Clippers Podcast. Yeah, Adam, 9 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:51,600 I woke up feeling pretty much the same level of anchor, 10 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:59,840 frustration and sadness that I felt yesterday. 11 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:03,719 Speaker 2: This is a good test for those who think like 12 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:05,920 a win is a win or a loss is a loss. 13 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:09,319 They aren't. It matters how you play, and the Clippers 14 00:01:09,359 --> 00:01:13,319 not showing up after the first quarter is really disappointing. 15 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:16,280 I think we both were talking about how, oh no, 16 00:01:17,159 --> 00:01:20,239 they lost the non jokish minutes to start the second 17 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,959 quarter by seven. That was to me the beginning of 18 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,239 the end and the big warning sign of this could 19 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,079 get really out of hand. Even though Yoki to Jamal 20 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:34,439 Murray weren't exactly great yesterday and you still get blown out. 21 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:36,400 How do you get blown out when those two had 22 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,719 fifteen in the first half. That's what's just baffling. 23 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:48,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was just no If you wanted to know 24 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,920 what a team with like what does fight look like 25 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,920 or what does showing up kind of look like? It 26 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,120 was the opposite of that from the Clippers. We got 27 00:01:59,159 --> 00:02:06,599 another no media performance from James Harden, which the wrong 28 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,199 way a great look. It's not a great look for 29 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,479 a guy who did. And that's one of the things 30 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,759 that Max is frustrating is he had a wonderful regular 31 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,479 season in terms of the leadership stuff. He had a 32 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:24,400 fantastic regular season with leadership, but the postseason hurts a 33 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:24,840 little bit. 34 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I totally understand, you're really frustrated. You're a 35 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,039 competitor and you just don't want to talk to anybody 36 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,479 after a game like that, or after the game they 37 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,560 lost before that, or the game they lost before that. 38 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,680 The last three games, I don't think he showed up 39 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,800 for the postgame presser. But he did what they won, 40 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,439 he did when they won losses he did not, Yeah, 41 00:02:51,479 --> 00:02:54,039 and that's just not a great look. You gotta be there, 42 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,280 be accountable, and it's part of the deal. But I 43 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,439 don't know I that was as miserable of a way 44 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:04,400 as you could end the season. I think for a 45 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,639 season that was such an overall success, it's just leaving 46 00:03:09,719 --> 00:03:12,719 a sour taste in everyone's mouth. And this is what 47 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:14,680 they're going to be remembering for a while, how it 48 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,319 ended and not how it started. And the great game 49 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,439 in Game eighty two to beat the Golden States lers down. 50 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,919 There are just so many highs, but it ended on 51 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,479 a deep, deep, low nater. 52 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: It was a valley. Yeah, last last night was a 53 00:03:34,199 --> 00:03:44,400 valley Kawhi frustrating. We get the healthy run, we don't 54 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:51,280 we get one elite game. And and again also absolute 55 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:53,240 all the credit in the world to the Denver Nuggets. 56 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:56,560 Hats off to them for an incredible series. Took three 57 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:02,680 minutes to mention this, but fantastic. Aaron Gordon probably the 58 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:04,879 third best player in the series. 59 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,479 Speaker 2: Maybe higher. He might be the second. A Jokic is 60 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,759 hard because so much more is demanded of Jokic and 61 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:18,079 he's Yeah, Aaron Gordon doesn't get going if there isn't 62 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:21,439 so much attention on Jokic. But Aaron Gordon was the 63 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,120 most consistently impactful player in the series. 64 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: YEAHL Murray said something that I thought was interesting after 65 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,639 the the dunk, which I guess that's what we're calling it. 66 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:34,079 I don't know what people are calling it, but we 67 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,120 all know what I'm saying. 68 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,519 Speaker 2: The perfect air ball, the. 69 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: Perfect air ball made all the other made, the non Jokic, 70 00:04:42,399 --> 00:04:46,120 non Murray Nuggets players all kind of that was kind 71 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,000 of a moment for them, and they were able to 72 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,319 really rally around that. And we saw it in other 73 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,319 games too, right when extra things were happening, the Nuggets 74 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:57,920 were able to fashion some momentum or something to hold 75 00:04:57,959 --> 00:05:02,199 on to from those moments. The Bug Russ Techs obviously 76 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:07,240 the donk, the kerfluffle before half before we lost that 77 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,839 game in heartbreaking fashion, like they were very clearly a 78 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:14,040 team that has played in the playoffs together and all 79 00:05:14,079 --> 00:05:17,959 the credit to them because they looked Clippers were the 80 00:05:17,959 --> 00:05:18,680 healthier roster. 81 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,399 Speaker 2: Do you feel like the Clippers lost this series more 82 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:27,160 than Denver won it? How do you feel It's hard 83 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:30,879 to say that afterward happened in game seven, Game seven. 84 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,680 If you told me they lost a close Game seven, 85 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,279 I'd be like, Ah, Clippers blew this more than Denver, 86 00:05:36,759 --> 00:05:37,959 you know, really took it from him. 87 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,519 Speaker 1: But they did a lot to lose. It like the 88 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,560 Clippers didn't did not help themselves. I think to say 89 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,480 that they lost the series, I think they would have 90 00:05:48,519 --> 00:05:51,079 had to have done more to help themselves win, if 91 00:05:51,079 --> 00:05:54,920 that makes sense. But it felt like maybe not chasing 92 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:00,720 as hard as they should have for game one. Some 93 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,759 just you know, we got the classic and I love Tyleru, 94 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:08,839 but when it doesn't work, it doesn't look very pretty, 95 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:12,199 which is the matchup hunting, you know, and they went 96 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,720 away from the pick and roll. It just there were 97 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:17,160 just things where. 98 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't think Game seven was 99 00:06:22,199 --> 00:06:23,920 on coach Lou, like really. 100 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:27,079 Speaker 1: The effort from everybody. 101 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: Kawai called it out at post game, yeah. 102 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: Which is frustrating because you're like great. 103 00:06:35,959 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: I think it objectively was a bad series for coach Lou. 104 00:06:40,879 --> 00:06:45,959 I think that's fair to say because when he has 105 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:52,519 made mistakes before, ultimately it's still well, he didn't have 106 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,800 his best players, so how much can you really put 107 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,480 on him? But this time he had his best guys. 108 00:06:59,399 --> 00:07:06,240 I think he had more room for error then was 109 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,079 actually out there in reality. I think he thought they 110 00:07:12,079 --> 00:07:14,000 had more of a margin for air against this Denver 111 00:07:14,079 --> 00:07:17,560 team than they did. I don't know if that's true. 112 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,160 And I can't hear you, Nut Chuck, can you hear me? 113 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,519 Speaker 1: Sorry I was muting. 114 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm only going off of the minutes from game one, 115 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:29,360 not starting be toomb till second half of game six, 116 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,560 Like I'm going off of things where to me if 117 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,600 you had more of a sense of urgency. It's the 118 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,360 word I've been using throughout this entire series. It doesn't 119 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,199 guarantee anything, but I think it gives you a better chance. 120 00:07:43,439 --> 00:07:48,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I like that idea that I mean, 121 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:57,000 we did have more room for error theoretically, but see. 122 00:07:57,079 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: But my point was coming into the series close games 123 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:05,279 with Denver, if you give them belief because of their 124 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,160 championship DNA, they're going to take those close games like 125 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:12,120 they're going to find a way to beat you or 126 00:08:12,279 --> 00:08:16,959 just you know, if you give them life and they 127 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,319 did like they they were better with all the intangibles. 128 00:08:21,439 --> 00:08:26,600 That's I think the Clippers they let them up off 129 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,680 the mat in some ways. 130 00:08:28,519 --> 00:08:32,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like letting them have belief or light 131 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:34,600 is a I love that metaphor because you look at 132 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:38,720 things like obviously the perfect misshot but then law Murray 133 00:08:38,759 --> 00:08:42,960 had some interesting stats both teams made exactly two hundred 134 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,639 and eighty eight field goals in this seven game series. 135 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:47,919 But to your point of the letting them have belief 136 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,159 in light, Nuggets had seven more offensive rebounds. That's kind 137 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:57,000 of that's those are belief and light providers and they had. 138 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,720 They outscored the Clippers on hunt underd and ten eighty 139 00:09:00,759 --> 00:09:04,519 seven on second chance points in the seven game series. 140 00:09:04,639 --> 00:09:06,879 Speaker 2: Oh, the second chance points were the difference. And that's 141 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:10,399 a lot of Aaron Gordon. Yeah, And that's a lot 142 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:14,240 of will and want to and heart and toughness, and 143 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:15,440 they had more of it. 144 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: Russ had himself a hell of a series. He earned 145 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,879 every right to do what he did in Game seven. 146 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,679 He did. I've never seen the rust the Russ roller coaster. 147 00:09:28,279 --> 00:09:31,679 It was straight up for this for the for There 148 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:34,840 was one little dip uh for the rest roller coaster, 149 00:09:34,879 --> 00:09:38,600 but it was straight up and the Clippers had no consistency. 150 00:09:40,759 --> 00:09:44,000 We didn't know. One of the frustrating things about the 151 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,759 playoffs and what makes the playoffs the playoffs is we 152 00:09:47,759 --> 00:09:49,360 didn't know what version of the Clippers was going to 153 00:09:49,399 --> 00:09:52,039 show up, which was not something we really had to 154 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:55,559 do with in the regular season. They were a good 155 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,399 team at showing up in the regular season, and then 156 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:00,720 in the play it kind of started to get a 157 00:10:00,759 --> 00:10:03,120 little shake, and then we just didn't know who was 158 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,360 going to be there. We didn't know if James was 159 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,919 going to show up. We knew that in the regular season, Yeah, 160 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,519 James was going to show up. 161 00:10:10,919 --> 00:10:12,919 Speaker 2: We knew it could be inconsistent in the playoffs. 162 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, An I don't think. Yeah, no one was 163 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,679 fooled that we were going to get seven elite games 164 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,519 from James Harden. 165 00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: But now they were verted back to some old bad habits. Yeah, 166 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:31,559 first quarters, slow starts, they had a made that a 167 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,360 big point of emphasis, and then they were better in 168 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:37,960 Game six, and they're better in Game seven with faster starts. 169 00:10:38,279 --> 00:10:43,240 To be fair, why did it take so long? I 170 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:47,000 keep thinking this is like an overarching theme of this era, 171 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,440 where there is something to their biggest strength with all 172 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:55,799 the comebacks leading to a weakness where you always think 173 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,679 and you always wait to get down to really engage. 174 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,240 And I think it's a really bad habit. And I've 175 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:02,039 always felt like that. 176 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:08,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is a common thing. It's uh 177 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,120 and I don't know what you do to fix it. 178 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,320 If that makes sense. I know there's people saying let's 179 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,799 blow it up, which I don't know how that even 180 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,799 works with a team that doesn't have a bunch of 181 00:11:23,039 --> 00:11:27,960 valuable pieces. No, just right, like you can't. I don't 182 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,600 know if blowing it up to me? Yeah, anyway, I 183 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,399 think it would go a lot worse than people think 184 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:32,840 it would go. 185 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we get into that conversation at some point, 186 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,320 like what to do. I don't know if we're going 187 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:40,039 that far down. 188 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,039 Speaker 1: No, we'll talk about it next week. But I don't 189 00:11:43,039 --> 00:11:45,039 think they're blowing it up. People are pissed off at 190 00:11:45,039 --> 00:11:52,000 TYLERU kind of rightfully. So it was really frustrating series. 191 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,759 Speaker 2: I didn't love hearing afterwards him say, you know, I 192 00:11:55,799 --> 00:12:00,240 was thinking about OKAYC like they expected to win. Yeah, 193 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:04,039 that did you interpret it as like they overlook them? 194 00:12:04,519 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: I was trying because I really said that. That one 195 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,279 stuck out to me too, and I was really trying 196 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,519 to sit with it because when I first saw it, 197 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,759 as Twitter is designed to make you do, I was 198 00:12:16,759 --> 00:12:17,840 a little upset by it. 199 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,919 Speaker 2: I think he just meant like we we didn't expect 200 00:12:21,919 --> 00:12:25,399 to lose this series. I don't think Yeah, it affected 201 00:12:25,399 --> 00:12:27,720 their game plan like they were holding something back for 202 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,320 okayc or they they look past Denver. How could you 203 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,600 once you get to a game seven? 204 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,639 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, And I don't think that. I think I 205 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:40,000 think it's also just maybe more of a compliment to 206 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:45,039 OKAC in some weird way. Also, hello Robert Flabb. He said, 207 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,600 sometimes it's better when coaches don't have options. Hey, sometimes, 208 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:50,039 Hey Adam, I don't. 209 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,279 Speaker 2: Think David Adaman had to had to choose many different 210 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,840 ways to go. Its just play your guys. 211 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Yet seven guys not now balloons. Yeah, I took it 212 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:06,600 as like, I don't know, it was a weird thing 213 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:09,919 to say. There was a lot of weird What did 214 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,200 he say after Game five? Were good or something? He 215 00:13:14,279 --> 00:13:17,200 had a we're fine a doc esque quote. 216 00:13:17,799 --> 00:13:19,799 Speaker 2: I mean you can take that both ways. It's like 217 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,639 you're supposed to be confident. What do you expect him 218 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,360 to say? Or like, why is he more upset? And 219 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:29,639 to his credit after game seven yet somebody kept pressing him. 220 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:32,600 He's like, you wanna know what I really feel? I'm pissed. Yeah, 221 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:36,679 Like I think he's more fiery than people realize. He 222 00:13:36,799 --> 00:13:38,039 just doesn't air guys out. 223 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: Ever, at the end, to the media, which is a 224 00:13:40,399 --> 00:13:44,399 good coach move. No one, I don't think anyone. No 225 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,399 one likes when a coach directly calls out a player 226 00:13:48,039 --> 00:13:50,679 after a game seven. We saw Doc do that to 227 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:55,200 a guy who's on the Clippers now, and I can't 228 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,240 imagine what that. I can't imagine. I mean, I'm sure 229 00:13:57,279 --> 00:13:59,919 that plane ride was dead quiet except for Van Gundy 230 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:01,120 at the beginning of it. 231 00:14:01,879 --> 00:14:05,639 Speaker 2: Coming back Zoombat's postgame, did you hear him? He just 232 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:08,360 kept saying, like three different times he said, another first 233 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,600 round loss, third year in a row. He was down. 234 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: He's been there for all of it, man, he has, 235 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,799 and he's grown. He also didn't touch the ball enough, 236 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:26,000 I thought yesterday in all offense again another frustrating thing 237 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,559 where it's like we were built on this great pick 238 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:34,399 and roll, in this great defense, and then against a shorthanded, 239 00:14:34,799 --> 00:14:38,320 banged up Denver team which all credit in the world, 240 00:14:38,519 --> 00:14:41,320 they played great basketball. The Clippers went away from the 241 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,639 things that got them there. They didn't run what they brung. 242 00:14:47,639 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: I do think to an extent. Their zone negated the 243 00:14:51,639 --> 00:14:55,200 pick and roll some and also the Clippers got a 244 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,279 lot of good shots out of it that they planked. Yeah, 245 00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:00,840 I think Denver end up shooting by three percent better 246 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:04,679 from three in this series. It felt more significant than that, 247 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,320 but three percent is not nothing in the series is close. 248 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,679 Speaker 1: And I bet the blowout really alters that for the Clippers. 249 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Clippers shot thirty six percent. They shot 250 00:15:17,639 --> 00:15:18,559 thirty nine percent. 251 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:23,759 Speaker 1: And what did the Clippers shooting Game four or whatever 252 00:15:23,919 --> 00:15:24,799 game they blew them out? 253 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: Oh? The game game three? 254 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 255 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,879 Speaker 2: Oh, I guess what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, that they 256 00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:36,440 shot forty six percent in that one game. So yeah, 257 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,519 take that away. They're shooting like thirty in six games 258 00:15:40,559 --> 00:15:41,120 from three. 259 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Robert Flabb, who was just in this chat, had 260 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,679 a tweet earlier that was interesting. Funny is not the 261 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,399 right word. He said, Chris Don only made four fewer 262 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,600 threes in the Nugget series the Norm Palell, five fewer 263 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,759 than Kawhi and six fewer than hard the Norm. The 264 00:15:57,759 --> 00:16:01,720 Norm stats were rough. Uh, but this was not what 265 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,360 we needed from Norm Powell. 266 00:16:05,279 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: No, Norm had a bad series. He had a good 267 00:16:08,639 --> 00:16:11,320 Game six. He had a couple of good, really good 268 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:18,799 games Norm games. But this wasn't enough. And we can 269 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:21,240 do all the over analysis stuff, or you can just 270 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,320 say they were much better from three in this series, 271 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:27,159 and they got more offensive rebounds and that's it, Like 272 00:16:27,679 --> 00:16:31,879 it's that simple and the three point stuff. I don't 273 00:16:31,919 --> 00:16:35,360 think that's coaching. I don't think coach Lou deserves criticism 274 00:16:35,399 --> 00:16:37,240 for that. I've criticized him for a lot of things. 275 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,120 I don't think that's the problem. Them laying down like 276 00:16:40,159 --> 00:16:41,759 they did in the third quarter. I don't think that's 277 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:47,879 coach Lou's problem. From Game seven, like that's not on him. 278 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,960 But yeah, Norm wasn't wasn't good enough? Unfortunately, should he 279 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:54,559 have gone away from him? I originally was like, put 280 00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:57,639 in patomb for Norm to start, I said, going into 281 00:16:57,639 --> 00:17:00,440 game five, I thought, batoom, that's when I'm at that 282 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:01,679 point to start withom. 283 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: How did we feel about we didn't even talk about 284 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,119 this yet, how'd we feel that it was Derek Jones? 285 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: I think that was actually a pretty good move. 286 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, I didn't think of that, Like. 287 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, the analytics that said for a while that Derek 288 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:18,880 Jones should probably be starting, and it gave them, Like 289 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,640 so batoomba is still that you still have one more 290 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,960 move to make if that doesn't work with Batum coming 291 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,279 off the bench, I do I did like that. Yeah, 292 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,880 but if it was up to me, I would have 293 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,799 started with Toom earlier in the series. If if you're 294 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:35,160 worried about oh Batum's older and I don't know if 295 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,759 that's gonna work, now's the time to find out if 296 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:38,200 it could work. 297 00:17:38,279 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because we found out a little late. We 298 00:17:42,319 --> 00:17:46,200 tried uh forgotten long account said, where's Norman Powell standing 299 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,759 all this? Because we've only got him under contract for 300 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:52,000 next year. I don't know when they have to get 301 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,680 in if they would, he's unrestricted after next year, so 302 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,640 I don't know when they have to get it. They 303 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,920 don't have to get the deal done. They're not really 304 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,519 under any pressure to get it done super quickly. I 305 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:08,000 don't think I don't think he made himself any more 306 00:18:08,079 --> 00:18:12,200 money after this playoff series. I think his. 307 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: Stops still higher going into this offseason. The last offseason though. 308 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. I mean he showed he was great this year. 309 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,920 He was What does he make actually, because he doesn't 310 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,880 make a crazy amount of money. It's like nineteen nineteen. 311 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,359 He's at nineteen this year, he's right at twenty next year. 312 00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: We'll be talking about it all summer. Norm once again 313 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,440 is the most likely trade piece. 314 00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:43,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, the summer of that. 315 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,799 Speaker 2: We did the same thing last year, but this year, 316 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,880 coming off the year he had, if you can get 317 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,640 a first round pick, I would entertain that. I love 318 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,519 norm Oh. 319 00:18:53,599 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, same here Harden has the player option. We'll get 320 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,160 into all that later this week. Yeah. I thought it 321 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,720 was cool that the fans got to be out there. 322 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,680 I wish they would have seen a better performance from 323 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,079 the clips. Shout out Priam saying he flat with the swell. 324 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:11,920 Awesome move by Ballmer. 325 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: Incredible move by Balmer. That was so cool to see. 326 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,200 That was that happy, fired up. I was having foma. 327 00:19:19,319 --> 00:19:22,400 I was like, damn, Hoshaw's there now. 328 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,279 Speaker 1: It's just left after the third which the camera panda. 329 00:19:29,319 --> 00:19:31,279 That was pretty funny. I do have to tip my hat. 330 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,960 So whoever was in the booth for that to say 331 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,680 show the wall and they were gone. 332 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:43,279 Speaker 2: It's just so hard to work through a successful, legitimately 333 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,480 successful regular season, legitimately successful season that just happened to 334 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,799 end in miserable fashion. 335 00:19:52,079 --> 00:19:54,039 Speaker 1: A whimpering fashion. It was. 336 00:19:55,599 --> 00:20:00,319 Speaker 2: Terrible, just being uncompetitive like that in the game seven 337 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,799 for all the world to see. It's just very painful. 338 00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it did not represent Clippers basketball. 339 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 2: Well, it didn't represent who this team was throughout the 340 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,119 majority of the season. 341 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: Exactly. If you didn't watch this Clippers team at all, 342 00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:18,440 you would have watched that Game seven, which I'm assuming 343 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,400 most NBA fans maybe you know, maybe you only watch 344 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,640 the playoffs. Whatever. You were probably so confused why I 345 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,160 was in a game seven? Once the third quarter was over, 346 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,279 you probably want how did this get to seven games? 347 00:20:33,319 --> 00:20:37,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, Casule's were big confused. 348 00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:44,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I just that the dunk? Was it? Man? 349 00:20:46,759 --> 00:20:49,039 That was just and I know that's that's not like 350 00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:51,119 where the season, that's not where the series was lost, 351 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,599 But it was just like, oh, they have a moment now, 352 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,759 they have a huge thing to rally around during such 353 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,920 during a weird time. They have an interest. Coach, like, 354 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:07,400 you can't give the chaotic team, like you said, these 355 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,279 moments of belief. 356 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: I think coming out flat in Game four, importing yourself 357 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,359 in a position where you gotta come back like that 358 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,000 for that moment to happen, To not have the right 359 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,440 personnel out there to stop that, it's all bad, but 360 00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:31,039 I just sense of urgency. How does Kawhi play six 361 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,319 less minutes in Game one of a playoff game that 362 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:40,079 he did in Game eighty two against Golden State in overtime. 363 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,160 They both went to overtime. One game he played six 364 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,559 less minutes. Maybe it was tired. It looks like it 365 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:51,559 at times. I'm still probably pushing things to make sure 366 00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:53,279 I win that game one and set the tone. 367 00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:56,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I agree, You and I talked 368 00:21:56,759 --> 00:22:01,279 about it. Was it after game three? I think when 369 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,599 we were like, why are they why are they saying 370 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,319 these quotes now of like getting locked in, or like 371 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,599 why are they saying these quotes now of settling in? 372 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:15,200 Like why are you even you shouldn't you should? Are 373 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,599 you should maybe already be settled into the intensity you 374 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,160 need for this playoff series. Again, we were the lower seat. 375 00:22:24,759 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: When they came in, having to win a bunch of games. 376 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:32,960 Shouldn't that intensity transfer, an urgency transfer into a playoff series? 377 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:37,359 They already were for all intensive purposes, going through kind 378 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,160 of a playoff gauntlet just to stay out of the 379 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:39,480 play in. 380 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that gassed them. I forget I did. I 381 00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:48,440 didn't forget that the Clippers' main guys were old, but 382 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:55,279 I forgot maybe how much it would show after the 383 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,960 crazy stretch to end the season. 384 00:22:58,319 --> 00:23:01,079 Speaker 2: I just kind of thought, Okay, they just got six 385 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,480 days off. I thought that was gonna be enough. But 386 00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:11,160 the truth is, this series does tell you the chances 387 00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:15,119 of them being able to survive, even if Kawhi stays healthy, 388 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,359 but just being able to survive the attrition of going 389 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,680 through the playoffs and being this old of a team 390 00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:25,920 is pretty unlikely. Like making a deep run with the 391 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:32,519 team this old is is pretty unlikely. Yeah, even if 392 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:34,440 you stay healthy, you're still tired. 393 00:23:36,599 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, even if you stay healthy, you're still tired. That 394 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,160 I mean. Yeah, I're gonna take a quick audio break 395 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,160 for the podcast people because we're gonna put this out 396 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,680 on audio, but we will be back to talk more 397 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,880 about how we feel the day after Red Saturday ads 398 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,519 coming up in three two one, All right, back in. 399 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: Live, Sorry. 400 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: Slippers, old habits. Interesting point from Robert Flaum. The Game 401 00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:12,880 four comeback was probably the worst thing that could have happened, 402 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:19,720 got Tyleru to lean into offensive first lineups. I think 403 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,480 I think the blowout was the worst thing to happen, 404 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,960 if I'm being not to the Clippers blowout win not. 405 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,559 I mean, obviously Game seven was was a horrible thing 406 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:34,960 to happen. 407 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,799 Speaker 2: Butt may have confirmed to some that, oh, we are 408 00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:40,759 this much better in this team when we play the 409 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:45,880 right way. Cool, how often are you going to play 410 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,400 the right way? I? Yeah, and Denver was just they 411 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,079 were missing and Clippers were hitting. 412 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: It was a throwaway game, I said, yeah. 413 00:24:56,519 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: I said afterwards, guys, as exciting as this is. When 414 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:01,480 everybody was talking about, hey, how do we match up 415 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,920 against OKC after they went up to one, I kept saying, 416 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,480 as exciting as this is. You know, they did just 417 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,079 shoot forty six percent from three on high volume in 418 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,759 this game, and maybe that's we're putting too much into that. 419 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a throw It was just a game 420 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,839 where it was like, Okay, everything went right. Let's hope 421 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,799 that happens again. Let's hope that. 422 00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:29,799 Speaker 2: I see you, Mark Jag I know you were thinking 423 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:36,680 about okay, see already. Unfortunately, the Clippers played Game four 424 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,799 like they thought they were up three to one. Yeah, 425 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,759 that's what it looked like to me, with the way 426 00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:44,519 they came out in game four, and. 427 00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,559 Speaker 1: We said, I think most all of us kind of 428 00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:53,519 agreed that winning in six seemed more plausible than winning 429 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:53,960 in seven. 430 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: That's why I picked him at six, because it's a seven. 431 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,319 They're probably not winning on the road. 432 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think they were gonna win the game, 433 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,079 but I will tell you what, I didn't think they 434 00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:05,960 were gonna get taken to the woodshed. 435 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:09,559 Speaker 2: I did mention our last show, it's gonna go one 436 00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:14,960 of three ways. Clippers win close, Denver wins close, Denver 437 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,359 wins blowout. There's no Clippers win blowout option in game seven. Now, 438 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,160 what I didn't know is Denver wins blowout. Well, Jamal 439 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:27,400 Murray and Jokic don't even do that much that I 440 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,240 did not see coming. 441 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: No, I thought it was gonna be a playoff Murray, 442 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,160 a playoff Yokic experience right, and said we got playoff Gordon, 443 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:41,640 who was better than any Clipper this series. 444 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: Elite, elite role player. He was a star in this series. 445 00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:52,039 Speaker 1: Do you think that Game seven will get more people 446 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:55,279 talking about Kobe Brown? He had thirteen points in eight minutes. 447 00:26:57,079 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: Was that someone in the chat saying that shock? Are 448 00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,519 you asking me? 449 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: No, Drew Eubanks got some time Cam Christy with his 450 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,920 first playoff buckets. That's good to see a mere coffee DNP. 451 00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:12,680 I'm sure there were people furious by that. 452 00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,279 Speaker 2: It is interesting that he didn't even play in garbage 453 00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:18,319 time in this series. 454 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: That is odd. I will I will admit that I didn't. 455 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,839 I understood maybe why he wasn't getting time, but none 456 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,640 with the blowouts is interesting because what's the point, Like, 457 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,400 I don't. 458 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: Think he's gonna be on the Clippers next year. I'd 459 00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:34,519 be honest. 460 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think someone would. He should get whatever big 461 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,839 deal he can get, and I don't think the Clippers. 462 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,680 I mean the Clippers can, but I don't think they 463 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,119 will offer him. I think they'll be outbid. 464 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 2: I don't think. I think this series kind of cements 465 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,559 to it. He's not coming back. 466 00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:56,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the longest tenured Clippers, but in a 467 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,240 very weird way because he had so many two ways, 468 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:08,480 like not contractually, but all the two ways. Yeah, I 469 00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:09,039 don't know. 470 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 2: This was there's so much blame to go around, Like 471 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:17,359 I think it's fair to go after coach Lu for 472 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,039 this series. I think it's fair to go after a 473 00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:22,119 lot of different players in this series. I think Kawhi 474 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,359 was their best player and he still wasn't. He still 475 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,079 wasn't good enough totally, and you look at the numbers 476 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,680 and he averaged twenty five points per game, you might 477 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,680 have averaged the most points in the series, or at 478 00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:37,839 least close to it by any player. He shot fifty 479 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,799 three percent from the field, thirty eight thirty nine percent 480 00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:45,599 from three seven boards for assists. The numbers are good, 481 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,119 but I said this earlier. It just didn't feel like 482 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,359 he had enough moments of taking control of the game 483 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,519 outside of two outside a game too. 484 00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:58,359 Speaker 1: And it didn't pass the eye test. It didn't look 485 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,960 you know what I mean, It didn't have that outside 486 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,440 of the outside of game two. Obviously, he just looked 487 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,960 his age. He looked like an older version of Kawhi Leonard, 488 00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:13,440 who was still very good, you know, but he's not 489 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,920 able to consistently be that playoff claw guy. 490 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: And that totally could be the case. It also could 491 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:26,079 be he only got thirty seven games and he was 492 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,880 kind of wavering about what his role was on this 493 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,279 team at times, and if he made it pretty clear 494 00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:36,759 that it was his job to fit in around everybody 495 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:40,519 else and not them fitting around him. Yeah, and like 496 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:42,400 he had to take a back seat, and he was 497 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,440 okay with that, and he talked about how good they 498 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,640 were the first half of the season. Was it also 499 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:51,200 mental or is it physical? 500 00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:56,359 Speaker 1: You know? I wonder there were some fit issues when 501 00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:58,440 he came back to Like Norm had to get had 502 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,599 to figure it out. When Kawai came back like that 503 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:08,200 fit was a little wonky to start. Yeah, it fell. 504 00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:11,960 I don't know. They went, they went about the recovery 505 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,599 so well. He came back, he looked, the trajectory was there, 506 00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:23,480 It was where we wanted it to be. And yeah, 507 00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:25,359 just didn't show up in game seven. 508 00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: I thought Kauai was decent, Like I saw enough plays 509 00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:34,359 to see that Kawhi was locked in game seven and 510 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,319 playing hard here. He wasn't great. Yeah, he cared, like 511 00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:41,160 when they were down twenty, Kauai was still playing hard. 512 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,359 Like the Kawai hit a three pointer to start the 513 00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:46,039 third quarter. They go to him right away. He hits 514 00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:47,960 a three pointer. You're down by eight. 515 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,559 Speaker 1: Right, it's right there. 516 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,279 Speaker 2: You're fine. You're down by eight, yo, Kichen Murray aren't 517 00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:59,880 hot by any means, You're okay. And then they give 518 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:01,920 it was seventeen. Oh run and it's over. 519 00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:07,599 Speaker 1: That run man, and it was over, Like it was 520 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:14,920 fucking it was over. Yeah. I mean him and Zoo 521 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:21,400 had some issues defensively last game, but I mean Kawhi 522 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,359 was carrying. I think Zoo cared. I think he was frustrated. 523 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: I thought Zoo played hard, frustrating. He didn't have a 524 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,480 great game, but I think he played hard. 525 00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Norman was bad. 526 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: Norman was bad. Harden was bad. 527 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,599 Speaker 1: The Bogey Fowls were crazy. 528 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 529 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: Not. I mean the refs were part of that is 530 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:45,319 the other thing too. 531 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,839 Speaker 2: It was the free throw like sixteen to four or 532 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,720 five at the half. 533 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me look, it was bad. 534 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: Not why they lost, but. 535 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,799 Speaker 1: Sixteen to seven Clippers actually made all seven. What was 536 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,880 with the free throws too? That frustrated me. They missed 537 00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:08,799 seven in Game seven two. That frustrated me all season. 538 00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:12,759 Just a weird thing to happen, a bad sign. 539 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: Also, what missing free throws? 540 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: Clippers missing free throws in the playoffs. Yeah, it was weird. 541 00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,319 Speaker 2: It goes back Game one against Phoenix. They've missed some 542 00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:24,799 free throws at the end of that game that went 543 00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:26,240 into overtime and then they lost. 544 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:33,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Man bad, Omen bad, Omen bad. 545 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: But a good year. 546 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: But a good year. Yeah, I mean on the whole, 547 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,759 the regular season was fantastic. It was one of the 548 00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:47,599 more fun regular seasons you can have as a Clippers fan. 549 00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: We all said it, I kind of look at it 550 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:57,799 like I think Robert Floms mentioned this recently too. You 551 00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:00,960 could just weigh how many good games, memorable moments you 552 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:04,640 got during this season versus the bad moments that ruin 553 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:10,079 your day like they were by far, way more good days, 554 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,599 way more good days. If you're somebody that just yeah, 555 00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:18,759 you know, measures happiness by a lot of people with 556 00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:20,240 their sports team. That's how it is. 557 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: This is not the right team for that. I would 558 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,519 like to were too straight winning seasons, yes, and another 559 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:36,000 first round exit. Yeah. My Dolphins and my Clippers not 560 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,839 not looking too hot? All right, do we have anything 561 00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:43,839 else we want to talk about about that game? Should 562 00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:51,000 we mercivelly end this shout out? The fans into a 563 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,319 Dome showed the hell out for their first playoff series. 564 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:54,960 It did. 565 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,319 Speaker 2: This was the year of the Into a Dome. I 566 00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:03,359 don't know if there's anything else say about that game. 567 00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:08,840 It's just complete, not complete, no show because they did 568 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:14,079 win the first quarter. But you expect better, more fight. 569 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:16,239 You gotta be tougher than that. 570 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be hats off for the Nuggets. They 571 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,880 were tougher. They had all like you said, they had 572 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,320 all the intangibles more, they were able to create momentum 573 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,960 for moments and the Clippers couldn't shoot. 574 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they drowned them in intangibles in this series. 575 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:40,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, that's a great way to put it, all right, Well, 576 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,679 oh you know what this means for the new listeners. 577 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,840 If you're near to the show during the off season, 578 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,320 we do dip recipes, so it's a silver lining. 579 00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 2: I'm trying to diet. 580 00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:02,599 Speaker 1: Hey, you can make healthy divs. All right. That about 581 00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:04,599 wraps things up. We're going to be back next week 582 00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:08,519 with the full crew to talk how the regular season 583 00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:11,880 went as a whole. It was a good year. Despite 584 00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,360 it feeling like you want to cut your own head 585 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,760 off right now, it was a good year. Adam, Do 586 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:26,079 we have one positive thing to send these Clippers fans 587 00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:28,880 out on. I understand if it's hard to find one, 588 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,199 but I believe that you can do it. 589 00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:37,159 Speaker 2: Steve Bomer is him. 590 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: There we go. 591 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,119 Speaker 2: What he did to fly fans out like that has 592 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,079 never happened before. I've never seen anything like that in 593 00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:49,519 sports history. That was an incredibly awesome gesture. And just 594 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,760 that's what you want from ownership. That's it, That's that's 595 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,400 what you got. To hold on to and believe in. 596 00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:55,480 That's what matters most. 597 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: Yes, that in your own personal well being, not being 598 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,400 connected to how the Clippers do in the playoffs. Regular season, 599 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,880 you'll probably be great playoffs, maybe not. All right, we'll 600 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,519 be back next week with y'all. Have a great week, 601 00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:15,400 take some time to do some stuff for yourself. Just 602 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,480 love yourself a little bit more this week because of 603 00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:21,800 what happened. All right, We'll see y'all later, and as always, 604 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:22,760 let's go clips.