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Speaker 3: Seeking light in every place, we find the path with
Out of trees, our hearts, guy by gentle Grave, no whiskers,
out of the dreams, we find mine that set of ease.
Speaker 4: Breaking change the whole house tie, moving towards the endless light.
Speaker 5: By day, I was doing a little nervous about starting
bill Lightenment, because I don't know.
Speaker 1: As I've gotten deeper and deeper into i'll say life,
I just see things. And I'm telling you, man, when
that eclipse happened and we had a perfect view where
we are despite the clouds. It was just one of
these things we don't everything we need is here, and
what are we sweating? And what are we panicking about?
And what are we getting ourselves all worked up over what? Sometimes?
And I really think that you never get it wrong,
but you never get it done. And as energy, you
are eternal. And maybe some of the things that we
were taught we weren't taught out of maliciousness. We were
just taught out of misinformation. Sometimes That's exactly how I feel.
And I've been looking to for a bunch of different
people to do in this series of podcasts, kind of
abilified offshoot less Dick jokes. But I found this gentleman
named David Hansel. And David has had a near death
experience and he's a psychic medium, and we'll talk to
him all about that stuff. But the near death experience,
I'm anxious to see if some of the things that
I've really come to believe is true. And I haven't
ever spoken with David, but I'm I'm very happy that
he's here. David, Hello, Hey.
Speaker 2: How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right good. I why don't we start
with the psychic medium? I have a question about this.
I don't know that anybody can exactly predict the future.
But I do believe that people can read your vibration
and if you stay on that wavelength, if you stay
on that vibration, then these things will happen. Because I
think and that because it's always my favorite thing when
somebody says, I went to a psychic and they told
me this and it didn't happen. Man, and I, Okay,
maybe there's a Charlatan out there. I don't know. I
would never question somebody's ability if they believe it. I
believe that they believe it. But I think that would
that be a more accurate way to think of psychic mediums.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny that you you brought up
that that that up because I'm the most skeptical, skeptical
psychic medium that ever existed. I think I am. I've
had the ability since I was a child. I mean,
I grew up seeing ghosts and having ghosts in our
house that moved from house to house for a while,
and they weren't scary, the.
Speaker 1: Same ghosts that just stuck with you. Same ghosts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they stayed for Yeah, from gosh, about five years old,
I stayed till I was about seventeen. Okay, yeah, and
not scary, just like they were there, you knew they
were there. I wasn't seeing them. I didn't start. I
didn't see the first one, like literally, there it is
in front of my face until I was. I was
riping for my seventeenth birthday and I had mentioned to
them the other side is I didn't like that, and
just because it was its unnerving for a moment. Yeah,
and plus it was a child too, so that would
really freak me out. But they showed me the child
to let me know that children are everybody's fine no
matter what happens. When you go here. It doesn't matter
what age you are, You're fine. You go back to you.
But they stayed with me, and I didn't like it.
I went through a large part of my life just
ignoring it. But I always knew things. I was the
guy that people always ask questions in the bar. I
could I could be drinking, I could be on whatever,
and they'd always Dave, what do you see in this?
And I'd be like, there it is is just there.
It was automatic for me. Everybody has the same exact
ability I do. So if anybody's ever thinking that any
medium or any medium or any psychic that tells you
they're better than everybody else because they can see something
that's simply untrue. You have a calling and you go
for it. You know, we can all play the piano.
Some people just come in and they play the piano
a little better, a little faster. The same with some
mediums and psychics. But anybody can learn how to play
the piano. Whether you want to be a concert pianist
or you just want to play at a bar, that's
up to you. It's equally just as satisfying. But everybody
does have this. I just cultivated it a little bit
more and more after my NDE because I didn't really
want anything to do with it until my NDE. But
you know, some mediums, there's a lot out there that
they read from a place of fear or they that normally.
I always tell people, if you have a psychic that
is trying to give you fear based things all the time,
telling you your curse, telling you all that stuff, just
get your money back and hang up the phone or whatever,
because that's simply not true. You can't be cursed unless
you agree with the curse. You can't be possessed unless
you agree with the possession, you know, So I I
find out. I know a lot of paranormal people hate
me for that, but it's just how I see it.
I've never had a bad experience in my entire life ever,
And I'm going to be sixty years old and I've
been around gross all my life. I've had some unsettling
things happened, but nothing was ever going to hurt me,
and there is no curse that ever came to me,
you know. And plus I love to throw an NDE.
Speaker 1: I mean, geez, yeah, well I want to get to
the NDA because I think that's the near death experience thing,
because I think that's very telling and maybe how it
shaped your life. But let's take a step back. You
said you've had this ability all your life, but you
sort of didn't want it. So sometimes when we want
to escape things. I come from a very Irish family.
A man do I like to drink.
Speaker 2: I am half German and I am half Irish, and
that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably almost quiet or try to make some sense
or some kind of an escape, you know. The we
put all these rules on people. This is where I
always feel like with addictions and things. We put all
these rules on people and tell them not to act
this way. So they're looking for something to make them
not act this way, and they choose the things that
are easily available alcohol, and then we yell at them
for you know what I mean, I think we've done.
I think we have I hope you don't mind if
I use a little bit of a salty language here, but.
Speaker 2: I talk like a sailor.
Speaker 1: Because I think we have fucked up people so badly
with religion and beliefs and different things. And I would
say that you never get it wrong you just like
I said in the beginning, you just never get it done.
So always this guilt that we carry around, this self
imposed stuff, this hatred, this idea that we're going to
be judged, is I i'd like to think, is wrong.
Speaker 2: It's a one hundred absolutely correctly wrong. It is very wrong.
Speaker 1: It's very wrong right and and and a very simple
philosophical thing only going back to where you talked about
you've never had a bad experience with uh? Is it?
I mean, is there such a thing as evil? And
we can look around the world and see it. But
when we say a privation of.
Speaker 2: Good Okay, here's here's here's what I'm saying when like
a lot of people, most people understand me and I do.
Another Podcas has too, and we a friend of mine
who's more involved in like she knows more of the
evil part of it, and she's not in that part,
but she knows about it. I've had bad things happen
to me, but not things like they show on TV.
It's not to that scope what they're doing. I mean,
I've had oh shadow people. I am a big shadow
people see her. I see more shadow people a day
than I don't know how many. And some are don't
feel so good. Some do, but they don't bother me.
They never have. And I don't know why that is
my guides or my ghosts. And you know, my people
always tell me it's because you have no belief in it,
so they can't affect you. You're not you just don't
have that belief for it. And so I tell people,
evil and negative energy is a very real thing. The
devil is not. The devil is as an arc type
of human consciousness, the bad part of us, and we
made it into some being. And like you said about religion,
it's really it's really sad because I can't sit here
and say religion is the worst thing in the world.
I really can't, because for some people, it's beautiful for them.
So who am I to deny them in that experience?
But as far as I knew as a child, there
was no such thing as how. I came in knowing
a lot of stuff when I was a child, and
you know, I went through my whole life telling people
that's there's no such thing. Where are you guys getting
this from? I like, prove it, and I'm like, well,
I can't, but I just it's a knowing.
Speaker 6: I know it.
Speaker 2: I know it. And then when I have my nd
that's when they said, yes, there is really literally no
such place as how in in the biblical sense.
Speaker 1: Okay, so well let's let's let's jump into the NDE
because we keep referencing it or it seemed a turning
point for you.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, my d my death saved my life. It
really did.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you you got sick with pneumonia and ssis
and sepsis and pneumonia is tough. I've I've battled a
couple of rounds that myself, especially as a child and
even as an adult, and it took me almost three
weeks to get.
Speaker 2: Over I had. I was diagnosed. Okay, for whatever reason,
I don't hate that doctor. I had salty feelings for
a while for him, but I thought, well, if that
didn't happen, I wouldn't have gone through the experience that
I went through, and I wouldn't be in the place
I am today. So I'm like, Okay, it's cool it
happened the way it happened. And he sent me back
home after I was sick. I wasn't even walking anymore.
My parents should be to this doctor like, he's not walking,
he's not eating, he's not anything. And I was two
hundred and forty pounds and still I could. I was
really overweight and I was. They put me in a wheelchair.
I couldn't walk and nothing. He said, oh, he's just
from not eating because he's got a cough or something.
And they just gave me cough medicine and nausea medicine.
And I went back home. And it wasn't until two
weeks later that it all hit. My parents even said, well,
the doctor said you're fine. They left. They left me
in the house alone, and my little brother had showed
up and the one morning I had walked out and
my last words were I walked in the room and
my little brother came out and he said, David, you
look like shit. What's wrong? And I just he said.
I just looked at him and said, well, I'm going
to die now. And I passed out and that was it.
And then I don't remember the wheel.
Speaker 1: Passed out almost you passed out at home.
Speaker 2: I passed out at home. Yeah, the ambulance came and
got me. I don't remember the ambulance ride. I don't remember.
I was still alive in the first hospital. That's where
they called my parents up where they were and they
said he had subscesses. He's got it's been running through
him for a while. It's not like new, like they
didn't just find it or whatever. This is what I'm told.
So they told my parents if he stays here, he's
going to die tonight. We needed to take to another hospital.
So they took me to another hospital. I kind of
woke up for a moment. I remembered for a quick
moment waking up, and in the second hospital, I didn't
thought I was at the first one, but I just
opened my eyes and there's just a bunch of people
in front of me, just doing notes and all this stuff.
And then I just closed my eyes again. And then
I remember at that point it was almost like sleeping.
And then there was this I started like I was dreaming.
I saw the doctors over me and they're telling me
to hang in there, and they were telling me that
I was in surgery, although my eyes were closed and
I was on the bed, but I was looking at
them in their face, and I watched them do part
of the surgery just to slide. I just remember looking
over to my left and I'm like, what are they doing.
They were breaking my They broke on my ribs and
put they had to get into my I had my
left lung was seventy percent covered in affection, so they
had they had to go in and I put all
these tubes and this fan in there or whatever. And
then the last thing I remember is the doctors said
he he knelt down, and he just said he's not
said it to the nurse. He's not going to be
able to speak for two weeks or something like that.
I guess that was the time they started inserting the
two tubes down my throat and at that point, something
must have happened. I guess because they told me afterwards,
after the whole thing. They said, yeah, in surgery, you stopped,
everything stopped for a moment, and then they got you
back fairly quickly. And I'm like, oh, that's the moment.
I bet because I remember laying there and I heard this.
It was like a click. It was just I went
from there to this beautiful space. It was just absolutely beautiful,
and that's where I knew. I'm like, aha, I have
I died. I knew it right.
Speaker 1: There is death, just no resistance. All resistance is gone.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's a really good way to
put it. That's that's a phenomenal way to put it. It
is you just accept it. You come. I mean, I
think and even like that. People I talk to are
spirits that I talked to. It's the same thing. It's
just like it's you get to a certain point you're like,
oh good, I'm leaving. I'm leaving, and you're like happy
and you don't know why. I like, this is good.
Speaker 1: You're going back to your your true self.
Speaker 2: Well I wasn't back to my complete true self because
of course I didn't stay. Yes, so I only I went.
I guess you could say when I showed up, I
didn't feel as if I had a body. I didn't care.
I never looked down. Everything was just everything was in
front of me.
Speaker 1: And but you were aware.
Speaker 2: I was very aware. And then I had I had
a being on my left and two on my right,
and we were having conversa the conversations within the head.
We weren't watching each other's mouths or like we were
standing here. It was just they were there and I
knew them. I knew them really well. And I could
not place the name, but I knew them. And the
one on the left I remember turning and I know
it was a her, And I said, where am I from?
That was my biggest A like question, where am I from?
Because I always felt the person you know here growing up.
I mean, I know, nobody liked me in school. I
had a terrible childhood. No big deal, you know everybody has,
but it just it's one of those I never felt
like I was in place. I felt like I'm I'm
not a human. I don't fit here. What is this?
And they pointed, And when they pointed, I saw the light,
you know the light that everybody sees. It appeared in
front of me, and they showed me like almost like
I was going around and seeing it from an angle,
and it looked like a like a cone that went
up like this, and it's on a forty five degree
angle and you see thousands of these beings going through where.
And I just said there, and they gave me some
other stuff which I kind of kept to myself, but
I understood that. And then they took me to another
place where I had It was just like a waiting
area and it was beautiful. And it was funny because
when I described to the waiting area to people, I've
done an interview for a paper out of England, and
I had said something because in this waiting area it
was a beautiful, brightly white lit room. It was all
white and it was like it didn't hurt your eyes.
It was just beautiful. It was perfect. You're just sitting
in there, but there's all these like it looked like
glass bottles, but they weren't bottles, but they were different
colors all over the wall. Like that wall was all
these different colors, and it kind of reminds me of
did you ever go to a big night club at
night and you see a bar and like if they
have all the booze behind the bar and it's lit
up pretty Yes, it was like that, but more like,
holy cow, this is the best setup I've ever saw
in a bar in my life.
Speaker 1: So you, huh, you got to go to a pub?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's that's what they said. It wasn't a
pub whatsoever. It's just that they were stacked up like
that like you'd see in a bar. That's what they wrote.
Man dies in America and goes to pub in Heaven.
And I was like, oh, dude, that's not what happened.
Although I'm going to tell you this, I wasn't a
place that was comfortable for me. So it probably maybe
looked like that because I just came from a life
of total boozing and drinking. And I was a comedian
and I was going doing little doing shows and I
was doing all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: And you did stand up.
Speaker 2: I did stand up for years and years. I studied
that Second City in Chicago. I taught improv classes. I
worked for the Charlotte Comedy Theater. I was a musician.
I traveled all over I worked with one of the
guys who wrote one of the songs for Wyatt Or
put a band together, and I was with him for
a while. I come from a musical family, but those
things would always get pulled away from me. I'd get
really far and do really well, and then it seemed
like they got pulled away from me.
Speaker 1: Why why do you think that is for this?
Speaker 2: Maybe because they weren't. Yeah, because it maybe just wasn't
what was my main purpose? You know, this is what
I chose. I could have went back to it, but
it just wasn't going to. But when I was in
that room is a waiting room, that was the coolest,
the absolutely coolest thing that ever. It's like, whatever you
need to see is what you're going to see. And
so if like when you pass over, say like everybody's like, oh,
I want to see my mom and dad really bad.
You know that that's good. That's who's going to be there,
you know, most likely side.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt, but when you say beings and things,
do they have a physical.
Speaker 2: Form, they Okay, let me explain this. Yeah, I know
the beings I had. I had three beings that had
been with me all my life that I always knew
there was something following me. Around, and I didn't know
their names, but they were the ones helping me feed
the information. Those are the beings that were there. And
then one I guess if you could, the one on
my left. Was it in human reference, in human terms.
That was Archangel Ariel. Ariel has She had been with
me my entire life. I just didn't know it. I
knew she was there, I could feel her, but I
didn't know who she was. So that's who people would
consider to be archangel Ariel or an angel, if you
want to put it that way. The other two were
guides that have been with me. Both guides showed me
what they really looked like shortly after I came out
of the coma. So they're still with me. They're always
with me, and they're very cool. Everybody's got them. I
just the work I do. I just know them really well. Yeah,
and they're very and they can show they can look
however they want up. If you're asking about what you
look like. On the other side, you can literally look
like whatever you want to. I mean, you can keep
this facade for a while or but most people don't.
But here's a weird thing. They don't have to look
like that for you to recognize them.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, all right. See that's that's interesting. Yeah.
I find everything that you're saying to sort of be
my belief. And I would go back to religion. And
I don't know what religions or religion you may may
have practiced at some point in your life or parents practice,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Catholic on my dad's side, Southern Baptist on my mom's side.
In the Southern Baptist one, we had a choice. I
had cool parents. When we were fourteen, we got to
decide where we wanted to go. I said none of them,
and my parents just asked why, and I said the
one when I went to the it was an evangelist
church here in the South. I'm sorry if anybody's evangelist,
I'm not picking on you, but I'm just telling you
as as like a very young child, when they took
me to Sunday School there, I always remembered I sat
in this room with the other kids, and I never
felt more uncomfortable in my life. And in my head,
I'm thinking, oh, these people think I'm some psychic or
they know it, and I'm evil, and that's why I'm
not feeling good here because that's what people put on me,
which was stupid, because I probably know God better than
most people, you know. I know God is more. That's
why I talk to all the time. I talked to
God all day long. I just don't call it God.
But they were talking about Hell and everything. And when
we got up, my mom and my grandfather who is
the guy who passed around that hat, and they're a big,
beautiful church with everybody dressed up, you know, and I
just my mom said, Hell is Sunday School. And I said, Mommy,
I said, they try to tell us that we're going
to die and burn someplace. And my mom just was like,
like that and I said, no, Mommy, I said, that's
the truth. They're lying to us. They're lying to them.
Why are they lying to them?
Speaker 6: And that was it.
Speaker 2: They never took me back to that church because everybody
heard me. They're like, what was that little boy talking about?
But I always knew that. And my dad was Catholic,
and although Catholic was beautiful, I loved the churches. I
felt like, wow, this is just mysterious and all that.
But there was a sense of dread that I feel
in Catholic churches, not saying Catholic is bad.
Speaker 1: No, I feel now I understand what you're saying. I
guess my questions. You're saying so many things. I have
so much I want to ask. No, No, that's okay.
I'm going back to sort of I was going to say,
where we learn about Jesus. I too. Uh. My parents
were Catholic up until I was age seven, and I
think not talked about really ever with me, but I
think my dad started out in the seminary and then left, Okay,
so he was going on his way right, And at
seven my dad was has a doctor in philosophy, and
he thought that they weren't getting enough out of the
Catholic Church, so we went to what was more of
a Protestant base but Evangelical church in the Northeast. I
grew up in the Northeast and I was really kind
of into church, but there was always this thing with
me where I kind of was like, I don't know
that this is really the way. And as I got
older and I have had these discussions with my father,
who always thinks I'm way off base with this, but
I feel like they misinterpreted what Jesus said. I feel
like Jesus came down here to say be like me,
you are like me, be like me.
Speaker 2: But you know I supposed to be supposed to be,
that we're all christ we.
Speaker 1: Are yes, yes, and that all these things, all these
like power. I don't want to say powers because that
makes it sound weird, but all these things you have
the ability. That's why I really loved what you said
in the beginning. Everybody has these abilities, it's just whether
you choose to tap in. I feel like the real
work in life is controlling your emotions and going for
the better feeling thought. And I say that often, and
a listener to the podcast made me a coaster with
all the sayings I say on there, like what other
people's opinion of you is none of your business and uh,
you know, only in the barrier to entry. But basically
I always say go forth and tell no one. I
remember when Jesus healed people, he would say that, and
I always felt like that was misinterpret only because when
you tell people, and I can't wait to ask this
question with your near death experience, when you tell people
not that they're being evil, like if you have an
idea to do something, they're going from their perspective, probably
out of love. Don't do that. Then I try that
it's going to fail, and then you get the doubt
in your head and so you fail. And I feel
like that's what Jesus was saying when he would heal somebody. Lepper,
he puts his earback on, and you go back, you know,
back to your your crew, and marveloks that. She goes, Yeah,
I give it two weeks out of you. Here's going
to fall off, and the doubt comes back in. Go
forth and tell no one. And I don't know if
I'm I know, I'm all over the place.
Speaker 2: Where absolutely absolutely yeah, I know what you're saying, and
I agree with you. Listen for anybody who's wondering this
or something, just so they know. Jesus, all the deities
from our religions, they all came down here for a
purpose to kind of say, hey, dudes, we're just giving
him some little cliff notes. This is what you can do.
This is how this stuff can go if you let it.
And then they left it up to us. We have
free will, we all do. They can only come down
here and explain something. Whether you took it or not,
you did. Unfortunately, humanity took religion the wrong, totally wrong way,
because I know who Jesus is and I am one
I know sit in pary to Jesus every days, not
the d day that I talk to a lot. I've
talked to Mary quite a bit. I love Mary and
very cool. I mean, these people, it all depends on
you look at it. Like when I see Jesus or
when I used to do meditations and Jesus will come
around me. He wasn't some white dude in a robe.
I mean it wasn't it was. Yeah, I know it's
not funny, but he'd show himself whatever way I needed
to see him. And for me, he looks like yippie
and he's very cool. And tell you what, he's very cool.
And I couldn't even tell you what nationality was, and
he's And the hardest thing I remember, probably the best,
the one thing that I've taken away that I had
to learn through that deity after my MD, which is
extremely difficult to do, you guys, but it can be done.
I just can't hate anyone no matter what they've done,
no matter what they did, because I always look at
everybody else as if there's there. When I look at somebody.
I always say to myself, I'm looking at me, I'm
looking at God, I'm looking at everything else. So no
matter how bad that person is on the outside, I
know inside there is like just total love and they're
experiencing something or doing something. That's so I tell people
there is no soul left behind, no matter what terrible things.
Some souls literally come here to do bad things in
order to give us that contrast, so we can have
this experience outside of this world, like I tell people,
like demons and monsters and ghats and all that. Yeah,
within this world you can have that. You can experience
something to that nature and label it whatever you want to.
But outside of here, it doesn't exist. It just doesn't.
The ego's gone. Everything's gone once you go. Once it's
all topped the way, it's different. But that's what I
got out of the teachings of Jesus and all them,
is that you literally do just have to love someone now.
You don't have to be the other one that was.
They used to always tell me this all the time.
And I'm not a religious guy, but they used to
always tell me, don't cast pearls before swine, And I'm like, wait,
what are you? What are you trying to talk about?
They're like, if they're not listening and they don't want
anything to do with this, then don't talk to them.
And then they gave me a rule that I've gone
by for the last ten years almost is not without
being asked, which means I don't run up to people
on the street and go, I got your dead grandma here.
That's not going to work. It's I have to be
asked the question. Even for a psychic greeting. I don't
I'll make a judgment about somebody because of the fact
that I am a spirit having a human experience and
I'm really quite enjoying it. And you can tell people
too when you look out there too, the world is
a mirror of you. It's in your heart. Jesus said
that a billion times of people, and people just did
not catch on. It's like, whatever you feel in here
is what you're going to project out there. So if
you always say, oh, this world is a terrible world
and there's cruelty and all this stuff going on and
on and on, it's like, well, that's because there's something
in you that's turned off. Yeah. Basically, it's like turn
off all those stupid things. I mean, but we just
learned and it was supposed to We just learned through
something we went through the United States that people literally
fall for anything on all sides. It's just crazy. And
I'm sitting here in the meantime going I'm just I'm like,
I know things are changing constantly because change is a constant.
It's always happened. Nothing never stays the same, right, everything
changes constantly.
Speaker 1: So what the near death experience? And when you we're
a child and knew, like you were saying, there is
no hell and so basically get kicked out of church? Uh,
or at least that's what it sounds like. I think.
Do we choose to have a human experience? Is there
sort of a counsel and we choose to have this
and you kind of pick your family and go. And
I think that a lot of times people go, I
wouldn't have picked these crazy people. But do you know
what I'm saying, Like, it is it that free?
Speaker 2: It's a it's a yeah. It's a very difficult question
to ask, just because some people will take this wrong,
but I'm going to answer it because people need to know, Yes,
we do, we do choose to do this. This is
a choice. Yes, it's a choice to come back here.
There is no reincarnation wheel where you're thrown back here.
If you don't, don't turn away from the lights so
you don't get caught in the reincarnation wheel. That's for me,
that's just all bull. You do what you want to do, right,
I will find I find even myself and what they
showed me on the other side. A lot of people
here who go I will never come back to this place.
I will know they're the first ones back over there going,
oh I want to go back. That was cool because
if you can realize this, when you when your physical
body dies, when your time is over here, however you
decided to go, you go back to you again. Everything
is undone. If you lost your arms because something blew
up and or alegator ate your leg, you got all
those things back after here. You're just back to you again.
This is I can tell you, this is the dream
over there is real. That was real. I can't recreate
that feeling if I tried right now, and I have tried,
and it's like, oh, it's not there because I'm here
right now, but it's it's real. This, this is real.
But that's really real.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of people who will tell you,
like everything when you think about you and I are
having a conversation, but how many things are happening in
the world right now? Right So there are those who
are quantum physicists, maybe metaphysicists to a certain that'll tell
you everything is happened all at once. It happens all
at once, and that sometimes even the people who have
passed on, they're just on a different frequency, that's all.
It is, like you can't watch the same channel, so
they're still over there. You're just they're just not on
your frequency. Would that be? Is that fair?
Speaker 2: And yes, they're all they're they're in control of the TV,
of the remote control, I should say. So it's true.
Everything is all of the past. Lives are happening now.
They're not happening in the past. Your future lives aren't
happening in the future. This is all. It's the same moment.
If you look at it this way. The universe is mental.
And if you can understand that, we're literally God's thought
right now. God's one thought, and we are all in
it and doing it and everything, and we are God.
So we're all those things. So we're just we're just
going on for an eternity, just just living and loving
and doing all kinds of stuff. I know it doesn't
seem like that now, but trust me, now, when you
go over there, if you are in spirit and not
in any physical thing, I guess you could. I guess
I could look at it this way. They'd like have
the remote control so they can watch the channels. Yes,
they can focus in on each channel with all the
channels still being there at the same time. It's just
like watching TV. Yeah, if you're watching TV, there's fifty
thousand things on, but you put on one pat into
that vibration and that's where you are, right.
Speaker 1: So let me ask this, and I am bouncing all
over you mentioned shadow people. Yes, I have talked to
people that have said all of us, and I don't
know if you'll agree with this or not. And I
am very very curious as to your called opinion on this,
that all of us have attachments that some people when
their time is up, either it happened so fast or
they were so drugged up when they passed on that
they don't know they're dead.
Speaker 2: And it's just some more than I don't. Those aren't
shadow people. Those shadow people are these energy beings that
either they might be people who left, like they they're
hanging out in the astral room right now, because there
is an astral room before this. We visited all the time.
People do it all the time, even though they don't
know it. They do it when they sleep. They're always
going over there. They're seeing their loved ones, they're talking
to guides, they're doing this, they're doing that, but they
just don't remember. When you do remember, it'll freak you
out though, because you'll be like, oh, yow, that was real. Yeah,
so it's you know. And to throw this in the
mix with shadow people too. Shadow people, like I said,
they're we're putting that energy out there. Usually it's for
our own good. It's for something that we need. So
like I had shadow people that oh, when I was drinking,
that's where they would be around, and they weren't like
there like illusions. I mean because I've seen them when
I wasn't drinking. I would see when I'm not drinking,
when I was drinking, they would literally be there and
they were they seem to People would say they were evil,
but I'm like, not really because they didn't like the
fact I was drinking, so they would always want me
not to. But shallow people, yet some people do forget.
Nobody's stuck. But yeah you can. If you are afraid
of hell, you've got this big fear. You might not
go over thinking that you're going to burn in hell
for some reason, because you still keep your emotions right
away when you leave here, until you go through that
light or go through that transition, you're still this personality.
So yeah, if they have fear or they're loss or
like you said, it happened. I've talked to people it
happened so fast that they just were They walked around
for a while and then started wondering why aren't people
interacting with me, And it's like, dude, because you're dad,
you can go now, you can go. Yeah, And that's
what rescue mediums usually do. People ask about her rescue
meet him. I haven't had any people who told me
they were stuck here. I did have an older lady
who I went on an investigation, and she when I
walked into the room, she had all these dolls people
would leave for her, and I walked in there and
they were talking about how evil she was, and I
walked in there and I sat in there for a while,
good half hour, just sat there, and I was like,
where are they getting this evil crap from? She wasn't
even she's in two places, she said, she's in heaven.
But she told me she loves to visit this place
because people come to see her and leave her the dolls.
So she loved it, and she would play the part
of a ghost for them. That's all it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's almost like it's entertaining for them.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 2: It's not people think that this is this big weird
thing and it's not. It's really quite natural. And that's
where you come from. It is entertaining joy and laughter.
The other side thinks it's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, okay. So I was told that
though some of those people, in order to to keep living,
need human energy, so they attach themselves to you, and
sometimes you need you can actually ask them to go
and it would be there. But let's take it one
step further. There are exorcisms. Is that something that what's
your opinion? I don't.
Speaker 2: I am zero belief in exercises. Okay, okay, zero? What
But that doesn't mean that people aren't in experiencing something.
It's just like when you say the energies, Yeah, there's
a theory, and I kind of do believe in that
as well as far as the attachments go, because it's
not because everybody always says I have an attachment whenever
they do something bad. I had an attachment. That's why
I was so evil. I'm like, no, maybe you were
just a jerk and you need to take accountability. Maybe
you can't keep blaming it on attachments, you know. But
there are people. If you are drinking a lot or
something like that and you're going on investigations, and there
is a somebody who's still around here because they love
the physicals so much and they don't want to leave
this life because that happens. They just don't want to.
They know they can, but they don't want to. They're
going to try to step into your energy. It's almost
it's almost like that's their water, you know. But you
can to tell them to go away. They know who
they can step into and who they can't. And you
know who they can step into. Very stupid people, that's
who they can step into. And I'm not saying stupid
in a mean way. I'm like people who are just
so ignorant to the world, you know, or they they're
five drunk teenagers playing the wigi board. I'm like, why
would you do that? I mean the wigi board. The
chances of you getting possessed by a wigi boarder like
to me, ninety nine point nine percent. No, you know,
but do you play drunk, You're gonna get energies that
are on you. That's gonna be the that's the experiencing.
That's the experience you're literally calling forth. The world gives
you whatever you ask for. I tell people that.
Speaker 1: There it is. So I wanted to say this to
you because you said that you really can't hate anybody.
Yeah you can't, Okay, so I can't. No, No, I
have said that I think that human beings are incapable
of unconditional love. Then then you said that, and I go,
maybe you are. Maybe you're the one that I've met
that isn't.
Speaker 2: Oh you are. There's there's many people. I mean, just
because you know, I have a sibling that is not
a very good person, a very nice person, and he's
drunk and he hasn't worked for twenty years, and he's
just you know, piece crip and but and I used
to hate him with all my heart, but now I
look at him and I see I understand the journey is.
That's the whole thing. If you're a psychic or who
I am, A lot of psychics will tell you I
understand the journey. I really. I get why they're being
a jerk, and I get why they're a drunk, and
I get why this is happening because it's something they
wanted to learn and come out of. So that's what
I mean about. There is unconditional love. We have an
additional love. You know, who has unconditional love automatically is animal.
Even if an animal bites you, it's still unconditional love
because it's not biting you because it hates you. It's
biting you because you're interrupting its energy and it scared
them in some place. That's why it bites you. A
dog doesn't sit there and go I'm going to kill
that human being. It's not premeditated. It's just I'm in
that energy or someone commanded me to do this thing.
Otherwise they love you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always think like the universe has unconditional love,
and whatever whatever your belief is, and I think a
belief is just a thought you think over and over
whatever you believe you're going to get. So if you
believe you don't have enough money on you know, the
universe loves you, but you don't have enough money. So
I think that a lot of times one of the
things that in the human experience, we don't like to
not know or not have control. So I think that
people probably come to you for answers to things. And
I think that it's very scary because we don't really
know what death is. Despite the fact that you come
back and tell us, but we still will doubt you.
And I've got to think people have the first time
you told somebody you had a near death experience, what
was the reaction and taken away from someone who may
be a believer, but a close friend or a relative
of somebody, what did they say.
Speaker 2: The first person that I told something that happened to
was the nurse when I woke up, because I was
supposed to be There's a long story that goes to it.
They called my parents. I was after my surgery. When
I came out, they induced a coma and then they
explained to me it's hard to explain. I remember I
stayed unconscious and then they got me awake, which I
don't remember any of that except I remember doing the
clock test. That's all I remember. I was doing the
clock test because they told my parents, we think the
sepsis went to his brain and he has oh yeah,
they went to so and you has a dimension now,
And they told my parents that they literally went to Wisconsin,
got all my paperwork, and they got the home ready
that I was going to go to. And all I
remember is hearing in my head sounded like people were
ripping boards off, just like ripping down a wood building,
just you know, back and forth and crunching and names
and I'm was sitting there and this goes back to
the story that happens there. And then it was like
the voice of God. I guess if you want to
say that just said, okay, you're going back now. Okay,
you're ready, You're ready. That's all I kept thinking was
you're ready, You're ready. And then room. I opened my eyes.
I didn't recognize where I was, but I just looked
at the nurse and I said, wow, I wish my
family was still alive. And she goes, what did you say?
And I said I wish my family was alive. And
I had mentioned that my dog, my dog died, and
that my older brother died, and that I wasn't sure
my parents where they were gone. She's like, your parents
have been here every day for the last two months, honey.
And then I looked up and I said, and I
mention started talking to them, saying, are you the nurse?
Where's that nurse that looks like this and some that?
And we had a conversation. She's like, no, honey, you
didn't have a conversation. You were in ICU. You had
tubes and everything in you. I said, yes, I did.
There was a nurse there and we were talking. They
found the nurse and she came in. She was I
told her the conversation we were having and all that,
because I'm like, I wasn't I was running around, I
was doing stuff. I wasn't gone, you know. But when
I came back, it probably took a good year to
remember who I was, because I didn't remember fully. But
as soon as I started saying that, my parents showed
up and I started remembering things. I had to learn
how to walk again because I was had the muscle
atrophy from being in bed to you know, I had
to learn how to walk again, learn how to shave again.
I didn't recognize myself. My hair changed to another color.
It was weird, there's trauma something. As my hair started
growing out, it was changing the color. And I plus
I lost that was over one hundred pounds in less
than two months. So when I first saw myself, I
didn't recognize me. Yeah, and that could have part of
the NB too, because I didn't recognize my face even
though I have was skinny. I was like, where's where's
all my body? Where did it go? Because you know
I was skinny now and then I didn't know I was.
But anyway, long story short, I can't remember where I
even went off on this when I started talking about this.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you about then life, because I
often say it had no meaning other than the meaning
you give it.
Speaker 2: That's exactly, that's it. That's just it. People, what's the
meaning of the life. Whatever you need to have it mean,
that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Okay. And then the idea that somebody did something to
me or they're controlling me, or is there anything as assertion?
Is that a real thing? Or is that sort of
assertion meaning like, you know, no one can kind of
control you or tell you what. Yeah, but we but
we believe that. And when we believe it, so you
know how people will often say and uh, I.
Speaker 2: Hypnosis is a wonderful proof. I love hypnosis. I think
hypnosis is the most beautiful thing, and people should learn
how to self hypnotize themselves. I like you're doing is
just opening up a part of your brain that's so
quiet all the time. That's even a hypnosis. Any hypnosis
person will tell you you're not going to do what
you wouldn't do anyway. So if a hypnosis puts you
on a hypnosis and told you to go jump off
that building, unless you are literally ready to jump off
that building, you're not need to do it, and you're
not going to hurt anybody while you're doing it. Yeah,
it's all. It's all, Well, it is belief system that
kind of proves. It's your belief system. What if you
believe that you're young all the time, and if you
stay in the moment all the time, you're gonna most
likely you're going to look young for most of your life.
It's just gonna happen because you believe it. Your body
responds to your beliefs as well. That's how people heal
each other, and that's how healers heal people sometimes and
not that the healer is doing the healing. The healer
is just facilitating. It's kind of letting the soul. Now, hey,
you can literally make yourself feel better, you know, so.
Speaker 1: The so because again we'll go back to like your
your abilities, and I really I've got to love talking
to you. You just seem like such a cool, open person.
And oh, thank you very very h you know, accepting,
but I would again most people looking for answers, I
really believe, and it it's again an easier said, the
done type thing that you can have or be or
do anything you want in this life. Sure, but you
but you can't. Contrast is there and as you pointed out,
even souls that may want to do what we would
consider evil or bad things to give us the contrast, right,
and contrast is important. You you know what you don't want,
you know what you do want. It gives you a
point of reference.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: But sometimes we get so caught up in it that
we put resistance and so we start thinking thinking, thinking
about I don't have enough, I'm not going to get
enough or or I never things never work out for me,
all this stuff, and that's more what we get back
back to your idea that it's really a mirror. It's
a mirror. So how do we what? What do you take?
What would you say to somebody who's looking to change that?
Is there an easy way to change it? Yeah, to
change your your beliefs, like I always think, I would say.
I would say to my sons often. I have three
sons of various ages, and I would always say to them,
you got to go for the better feeling. Thought the
idea of you got to think positive. That sounds impossible,
but you can get you can go from anger to blame.
It's a little bit better, right it's not, And you
can keep kind of going up the emotional scale. Thus
changing your vibration is sort of my thing. And you know,
the idea of you know the best, go for the
best feeling, or I'm trying to think even we're in
the moment, you know, go for whatever is the best
feeling in the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, My thing is that to anybody who wants things
to change for them, we spend a lot of time
looking in the mirror, making sure, we look a different way,
we dress our bodies, we do all these things. We
you know, pay attention to how we speak to somebody,
we go get school and all that stuff. But the
one thing nobody does is monitor their own thoughts. Why
is nobody paying attention to what's going around in their head?
If they did, things would start changing, because then you
can start turning off thoughts. Case in point, like how
to look at things in a different way. This morning,
I I was grabbed my coffee, i'd feed my cats.
I got four funky cats, and I drank my coffee.
I put it next to me. I've got all like
my where my counter. My it's like a big gum
looks like a big chest that has all kinds of
witchy looking fun stuff on it that I love. And
I put my coffee down on one of my cats,
jumped knocked my coffee on it when all over my
iPad and broke on the side of the counter. Most
people would go, you know, god, damn dad of the day,
freaking cat and all that, And I was I started
laughing because you know what, that got me out of
the whole experience. The cat looks so freaking funny. Jumping
over me to do that. What he did, That's what
I was laughing at, is like I didn't care about
it's coffee on a floor. I can fix that. I
can rebuy any of this stuff. It's not a billion dollars,
you know, and my iPad's fine. It's just how you
focus on it. We don't have to have the emotions
that society tells you to have. Like some people when
they're scared, they laugh, some people when they're nervous, they'll giggle.
You know, some people loved one will die and one
person will cry for the next six months and want
I'll go right back to work the next day and
it won't hit them for a long time. It's up
to us to determine how we want to react to something.
Once you you know, once you pay attention to how
you react to things, it starts to change. And like
you said about raising your vibration, the more positive. And
I'm not saying you have to say that every day's
a good day and all that other stuff. Sometimes they're not.
But if you keep saying it, it's going to happen.
You're most likely going to get there.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's go back to the story you just
told about the cat and the thing, because I would
be in a situation like that, and I have My
youngest son is fourteen, my oldest son is four, so
there's quite a range in there, and there's only three
of them. There's another one in between. And when the
little one would do stuff much like this, knock something over,
I would say, God, damn it, Jamison. And Jamison at
five six years old, turned it into a song and
he started walking around going God, damn it, Jameison, God
and that made me laugh. But when those things happen,
sometimes that is the momentum that you don't want to
get going, and that I sometimes will say, thank you
source for making me stop and go right now. It's
just a spilled coffee, And then something else which leads
me to this. And I don't know if you believe
this or not, David, but everything that happens to you
is your fault.
Speaker 2: It was your choice.
Speaker 1: So and as as ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to it doesn't have necessarily have to
be your fault, but you chose the actions for it.
You know what I'm saying. Somebody might do something to you,
but how you got to look at it? Is they're
not literally doing something to you, they're doing something for you.
They're trying to show you something so you can get it.
There's different ways to do it. I kind of think that,
you know, if if your mom walked up, if you
walked up to your kid the other day and just
kind of just smacked him for the heck of it,
you know, and he looked at you. It's not him
who told you to do it, No, it's you who
did it. Yes, yes, but his reaction is what he's
going to learn from. So he made he might have
And if he knew that you are somebody who did
that all the time, and he decided to go in
that way, then yeah, it is your choice. That's something
we do here. We might be told, hey, when you're
in your twenties, you're gonna get really addicted to this
certain kind of drug and it's going to be tough
for you. You may or may not try to do
something bad to yourself and end up back here. So
we're just giving you the heads up, but that that's
what you're trying to get through, Okay, So your soul
might recognize that, Like if you get into a part
where you got really addicted to drugs for like five years,
ten years, and you lived through it. I can tell
you you chose that. Okay, nobody put you. You did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: I wanted to prove something to yourself. Is why if
you didn't do it? Then you go back and you're like, whoops,
you know, let's try this again.
Speaker 1: Do we make things harder than they need to be? Overthinking?
Overthinking over that, So like going back to again, I'm sorry,
the cat and the coffee on the iPad, that to
me could go one of two ways, the way you
went or the goddamn it. And then you're and it
seems like after that you get a series of that stuff,
sometimes to the point where you end up in a
car accident.
Speaker 2: No, that's very true. I mean the momentum from your thoughts, Yeah,
some of that. But people don't like when you hear
when people talk about like the law of attraction and everything.
Just as I know and everybody, some people know this,
you're not literally attracting something towards you. Everything that you've
ever wanted, that you can think of in your head
is already there. It's already been constructed, it's already there.
You just got to match up with a vibration to
get there. And like you said, it goes by the
way of you know, if there's a car accident in
the in the in the distance, and in that morning
that coffee got dropped off all over and you are
all over the place getting mad, You're probably most likely
going to end up in that car accident, which is
going to lead me to how psychics work. So you're
going to into that car accident. Now, if there's a
car accident there and that person did what I did,
and they and I just have a good day. Anyway,
I'm most likely going to notice that car accident and
avoid it and not be in it. It'll probably be
there and I'll see it, but I don't have to
be involved in it because of the choices that I
made and how I was. Unless possibly that car accident
was there to teach you something. But that's the psychics.
That's how real psychics. I think we work like that.
When somebody asked me a question, it's predictions are weird.
Not every prediction comes true, right, Okay, you got to
believe in the prediction. That's one. You got to really
believe in it. Two, I read from the energy where
they are now. So when somebody asked me that question,
right when I'm sitting here, I can feel that energy
where they are now, and from the question, I'll just
start traveling down that energy. I'm like, oh, dude, yeah,
it's totally if you stay right, if you stay in
this mindset, you are totally going to get that. That's
just going to happen for you. But I have people,
you know, ask me, I don't know if I should
be with Bobby or not, because Bobby hasn't called me
in two days, do you think we're going to be together?
I can look at them right there and there, and no,
you're not. And the reason you're not is because because
you keep because you already know. You already know, or
you would not have asked the question. Thence you know
that energy's out there, so you might as well just
cut the cord now and go get yourself somebody. That's cool,
because you're here with an idiot, you know. That's how.
Although there are times where my skuides have jumped in
and said, listen, the way she's going right now, the
dude's gonna dump her because she's really being hard for
him to handle. Let her know that all she has
to do is just enjoy the relationship. Just be in
that relationship. Don't worry about what he's doing. He's most
likely not cheating. You're all good. If you do that,
that relationship goes on.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, right, so, and that would be sort of
what I'm talking about, where you change your vibration and that. Yeah,
you're like a teacher in a way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Everybody, everybody, everybody's other teacher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean you're you're kind of giving us
guidance on how to live. People can go to uh
whisper whisper to me dot com.
Speaker 2: Correct, it's uh, they whispered, they whispered me.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry my class. I have classes for distance and
they don't.
Speaker 2: Also, if anybody wants to, I make I'm on TikTok
and I think I think like ninety six points something
that some followers now, But I make videos on people's questions.
So if they ask a question about the afterlife or
ask this and that, I make a video about it.
That's what my whole platform has been. So and that's Medium.
Speaker 1: David Hansel Medium David Hansel, h a m zeo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a lot of impostors so make sure
that there's at least ninety six. Because social media is
not watching our impostors. I have so many people saying, oh,
you came in Did you come into my DMS and
asked me for my astrology and say I hit a
curse or something. I'm like, no, you know better than that.
I don't. I don't. I don't work with that crap.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like, that's not me, that's a fake. They do
it all the time.
Speaker 1: Can you read energy through almost what we're using now
as technology?
Speaker 2: Anybody? Anyone can? Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, because because
we're energy. Okay, I mean people are probably gonna go
own and I'm gonna talk all spiritual, but no, this
is the absolute frickin' f in fact, you are energy.
Everything is energy. This pencil is energy. It's actually it
should be. We should be able to go through this
and five D or my finger would go through this
because the molecules would split and it would go through.
But my brain cannot handle the fact that I can
do that. That's why I can't. So that's why that happens.
As far as readings or anything, Your energy and my
energy when I start reading something it's right there. It
doesn't matter where you are in the world. It's well
either on the phone or either on you know, the
zoom or on you know whatever. People can ask me
a question. I do angel readings, which is really fun.
I talk to angels all the time. I've loved them
since I was a kid, and I had an angel
asked me one time. He's like, do these kind of readings.
It's weird how it went, but anyway, I do these
one question angel readings are eleven dollars and eleven cents.
I know a funny number, right.
Speaker 1: There's a great number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it came across. It came across because I needed
some extra cash one day and they said do this
and I'm like, I don't know how to channel you.
They're like, yeah, you do, you do it every day,
Just do it. I put the ad out there and
I people would ask a question, and I would look
at the question and I go to my meditative state
and then I can hear them. So like angels, they
replace my thoughts. That's what it feels like. They replace
my thoughts. It's theirs. So that's what I'm speaking from.
I just start typing and I noticed I'm really poetic,
and then it's like, no, I'm not, that's them, I'm
just writing their works. People would come back going, how
did you know? How'd you know? And then I started saying,
do they need to ask a question? They said, no,
that we know what they need. So people just say
whatever I need to hear, and then they would go
off and tell them to them people. All these years,
I've left it up there, and I've left it at
the same price because the time that I needed it,
I think within like a day or two, I had
made like three hundred something dollars for this little trip
I was going to do, and that's all I wanted.
I wanted something. I said, Hey, I'm going on this trip.
I could use a little extra cash, and I know
you can give it to me. And then that's how
it started coming in. They're like, well, do this, do this,
do that, do this? Okay, so you do? You got
people have to follow their own intuition. Half the time,
there is a being, you, a guide, your higher self, God,
and there's somebody directing you in a positive way. And
if you listen to it and follow that, like you
were saying earlier, that one positive little thing even if
it's only this much more positive than something. Yes, follow it,
follow it?
Speaker 1: Yes, So how do we how do we hear? I
meditate sometimes that I've started asking a question what do
I need to know today? And I really listen and
it's calming. But I don't know that I ever get
an answer. But I don't have bad days. I can
say that, well.
Speaker 2: You know what the answers A lot of people see,
like for me, I don't have if I ask that
question about myself what do I need to know today?
It doesn't always come in in language because a lot
of people think, like like if you ever hear of
a psychic or a medium saying they're clear audience, which
means clear hearing, which means you can hear the voice.
But it doesn't always mean voice. Because I have many
spirits and I talked to I can kind of hear
the words here and there. It's kind of like they're
in the distance. Or they'll come in like an extremely
loud thought. You're like, that's not me, and that's them
that comes in like that. Or I'll hear water, or
I'll hear places. I remember one time I was on
my way to do I do TikTok Lives all the time,
and I just do free readings or TikTok Lives, you know,
for like half hour. So just psychic readings real quick
because I love doing it and it's exercising the muscle always.
And on the way there, I was just driving and
through the mountains over here, so it's like this mountain
road and I se and quiet, I don't buy this
one spot, and I heard a motorcycle like outside my ear,
like it was in my car. I heard this motorcycle.
I'm like, who is that? And I just went to
Red Readings. The next day I came by, heard that
motorcycle again, and I pulled over the car. I'm like,
is there like a track around here? But I'm in
the mountains, I'm in the forest. So third day I
went back, I got on TikTok Live and I never
do this, and I said, you guys, I don't ever
just put out information and I don't want anyone to
make it fit. I said, there's a dude that loved
motorcycles who died that long ago. He's like, it is
twenty five or thirty years old. Does anybody know who
that is? And yes, his sister was on that day,
so that's who it was. So yeah, so that's weird,
and it doesn't I don't. I mean, I think the
most fun is when you're not asking for it. I mean,
when it just happens. It's so beautiful. And I'm not
the only one. I tell people, Listen, you can do
this too, if you have loved ones who left. I'm
happy when you contact me, and I'd be more than
hell happy to help you all I can. But in
the meantime, sit with a picture in a chair and
look at them and get rid of all those crappy,
sad feelings. Oh yeah, cancer, she suffered so much. Trust me,
she ain't suffered her Now she's good. She was happy.
She doesn't even remember that. It's like, no, I know
what I went through. I don't remember it. Just look
at them and start smiling and just talk. Just have
a conversation, and then put that picture down and go
about your day. You will that you're gonna probably feel
that tingle all day long, and you're gonna have more
stuff come in for you. You'll get signs that day probably,
you know, you'll get all kinds of things because it's
they have to lure their vibration to get here. We're
gonna raise ours and we meet in the middle. That's
just what a medium does. Okay. I used to tell
that's why I'm so naughty when I do reading readings.
I mean, if I have some the other side, I
was tell people, I don't filter what they say. If
that's cool, because if they swear, I'm swearing. Yeah, that's
just how I'm going to go. And yeah, it's people
can do it. You can sit there, you can have that.
My brother, my dog, and my brother. If I went
back to that in my in my near death experience,
two things that I saw was my dog getting killed,
my little dog named Toto got killed by the other
two big dogs, and that my brother he was gonna
die and he's coming here, but they needed me to
go back, and I was like, yeah, whatever. Well I
woke up remembering that, you know, And a couple of
months went by and I remember that, but I was
slushing it all off too. The first couple of months,
I was like, I know, I was someplace else. No
one's going to listen to me, no one's believing me,
so I'm just going to keep it to myself. And
then it was like six months later Arlow Doc Toto
ran outside when the big dogs are out there, and
they tore apart and in front of me. We tried
to save her and Gona. She got killed and I
was very sad, but she gave me a wonderful gift.
She came back and showed me herself the next day
and that dog literally, this is just you guys who
have pets. I would not have believed it, but I
was so sad. But in the morning I felt okay
because I had a dream about her. And the dream
was I was in her place, running around my parents' backyard,
and she took me to three spaces. One was the
barn and there was a ball back in the bar.
In this old barn. There was another like stick behind
a tree, and there was this little piece of rope buried.
It was under this rubbish. And I went outside in
the morning and I thought, oh, what the hell, let's check.
I walked into the the barn. There was the ball,
and then I walked behind that bush. There's a stick.
I dug up that little thing. I'm like, holy cow,
that was her. She gave me the gift of putting
me in her space. To let me know this is
how she felt running through that backyard. And then I
was still sad that I knew that, and then it
hit me, I hope they're not. This is just a coincidence.
But on Thanksgiving my brother got sick and then he
was diagnosed with a brain tumor and stage four lung
cancer and they gave him six months and he died
four months later. So I was very upset. This is
like one of like when people call it the dark
Knight of the Soul. I was so upset, and even
as funeral, I was screaming at God. I was already there.
You should have just let me stay so he could
stay here. I was okay, my life sucked anyway. I
wanted to go, you know, I was done, and that's
not how it was. And I was mad and I
told him, we're not supposed to know who when people die,
because we don't, you know, we're not supposed to know
when people die and all these other things. Why did
you do that? And it came back they said, because
you wouldn't have believed where you were. So that's how
that's why the information was given to me. It was
going to happen anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you do you think that we have a
predetermined exit date?
Speaker 2: You know, that's a tough one. A lot of people said,
I have asked my guys. Yes, yeah, my guides are
weird about it, but they said, yeah, you do have
a predestined You have a predestined, but there is your
soul knows and it can change too. Some people plan
on dying a certain way under like your contract to
be Hey, I'm gonna pass away in this plane crash
with two hundred and ninety other people. You know, that's
what I'm going to go to. I'll be done. They
because you're you got to think when you're on the
other side, when you're making this plan, you know you're
coming back there. It's a fact you are. You're not.
Nothing's happening to you. So you go through it. But
a lot of people you can right you're here. I
guess you can change it yourself. You can just say, well,
I don't want to die in that. I want to
die peacefully in my sleep, and then maybe you will
you most likely, Yeah, we do pit choose pretty much
the way we do go that goes from accidents, horrific accidents,
all kinds of weird stuff. There's also I think times
when it can happen, and that's what I think when
we're talking about exit points. You do have that one
no matter what. This is the last one. This is
where you're coming back because you said you only wanted
to be here that long and that's it. But there
are times in between where something could happen. And I
think that's where you get when people talk about and
that's my guides you are explaining, like when angels save
people here, or you'll get these phenomenal things like where
did that person go? Or somebody lifted up that car
off that kids left, We didn't know where they went.
They are pretty much the only ones who can change
your destiny, and they're not changing your destiny. What they're
saying is he'd be better off. This is going to
be better off if this person does not die now,
because they're exit points like thirty years from now and
they started going to have this kid and all this stuff,
so they most likely will talk to your soul. Your
soul goes, yeah, it's how cool. I'll stay and then
things will happen to make it better, you know, but
so bizarre it is.
Speaker 1: At the risk it is bizarre because you know, like
you said with the you could really go through this
if we were a fifth dimension, but we're more three dimensions,
and so.
Speaker 2: We have we're going we're going into fifth dimension consciousness.
I mean, the whole UFO thing. And if people won't
know about that, and this is probably another show I saw.
I when I was six years old in North Carolina
where I am. Now we should drive up here. I
had my encounter with an alien actual in front of me.
There you are. I didn't go up to a ship.
There they were. They said hello, and they came back
in dreams. That same one came back as dream after
my nde And so they've been around that. I was
known from a child that always knew they were here.
So can I that news for me? It's like, yeah,
they're here. Of course they're in the ocean. Well you
have dog, where did you think they were? Well, they're
in the sky, ocean, everywhere.
Speaker 1: All right, So let me ask this and I would
like to have you back to explore this more. But
there are those that say were of the stars, you are,
that that aliens came here, and that there's alien DNA
or dormant DNA in us. And that's what the what
we call the divine intervention, right because I think depending
on who you read or who you believe, scientists will
say our closest DNA match some say ninety eight percent,
some say that's way too high is to a chimpanzee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well here look at those. There's a visual. So
here's a little bag I have. Okay, this a little
bag represents a human being or something like that. Now,
it's it just looks like this, and how it got
that way as some he sewed something together and put
something together. That's where you're talking about the alien DNA.
So alien DNA's maybe got together, did something with ahminid
here or something and they made this brand new looking
species like that. Well, you're a soul. So if you
decide you're going to come to Earth and live as
a human being, you're going to use that bag. Yeah,
that's where that DNA came from. Once you leave here,
you're you again. You're over here again. You can be
in anything. You can go to another planet. You can
be an alien in that planet. You can maybe there's
a planet that you are maybe on all all the
all the time, and you just took a break to
come here on earth. Who knows, But yeah, I'm a
strong believer in that as well. I'm sorry people, the
Adam and Eve thing as as you interpret it in
that book is not true. But I believe I believe
in the seeded theory. If that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, that does make sense. That makes sense. May
I be selfish and just ask angel wise? Can you
kind of for me tap in or what you need?
Speaker 2: You got to ask the question and then, well I
have angels, guys, anything. But if you're just wanting to
ask a question, I can. I can see what the
answer I can get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't even know what
a question i'd ask.
Speaker 2: Uh, if you just want to know, if you just
want to know what's going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's going I mean? What am I on the
right path?
Speaker 6: You're so funny that you just asked that. They just
threw that out at me, choosing the path? Yeah, yeah,
that literally fell out. I just grabbed this card for
a minute to see if there's choosing your path?
Speaker 2: Let me see, give me ten seconds. Okay, I'm not
going to use cards because it's easier to go direct.
I talk on loud too, if you hear me, say
yes or whatever to them and just acknowledge.
Speaker 7: Them, thank you, Yeah you are. You're obviously exactly where
you're supposed to be.
Speaker 2: The advice that's coming through, the advice them aren't less
coming through is that you kind of stid to tick
a little stick to home right now, and they kind
of want to move you out of there. So I
want to put you someplace. I don't know, it's so
silly to say it, like a vacation, but I really
need you to go someplace else, just for a little bit.
It's going to give you a new perspective on the
things that you're thinking about doing next. So the things
that you're thinking about doing next are actually going to
come a little differently than what you're thinking, but in
better way, better, better better. What is he buying? What
are you buying?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to like to buy that case.
I'd love to buy a house or something.
Speaker 2: But that's that's just what's going in your head. Okay,
hold on a minute. That's just a depinion. It's in
your energy. So it's like I need something, I want something,
and it translates to me as buying something, So it's
the house that you want.
Speaker 1: Well, it's something because I have my fourteen year old
son living with me now, he hadn't been for four years,
and just some just some things to getting out of
a lease was too complicated. So we're in a smaller
space than I want to be.
Speaker 2: So it's not too complicated some stuff. I'm not reprimanding you,
but I'm going to reprimand you. No you're not. You
want it. All you got to do is take the
action towards it. So all you got to do is
think about it. You already have to just say, oh, yeah,
I can't wait to get my new house. My new
house is so cool. And then you just need to
just start looking up stuff. You'll be surprised and how
things will fall in place to change everything so you
can leave that place. It'll just automatically work out. You
don't have to. People always they always take something in
the physical and say this is in my way. No
it's not, it's not. It's not in your way because
you're because you're not physical, you can go right over it.
And that's and they're telling me. But they keep telling me.
They do tell me that you maybe you and your son,
somebody you need to go someplace just for a little bit.
You need to expand that because I feel like there's
something you're missing that you didn't do. That's that's the
thing I'm missing. It would be good for you to
get like a different focus on something, so like go
someplace you would never go before. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
and just do that. And that's just it's just for
a new perspective as all, because you keep focusing on
the same stuff here and that's probably why you're focusing
on I can't get that because of this. No, that's
not true. And you'll know that once you jump out
of this. It's just this little box here and you're
doing really, really well, but you still got that little
box up that still you still don't trust some of
the decisions. You still just going, oh, no, one, you
can't have that. Yeah, they're like, if you can, why
are you saying that? Yeah, that's what they're going over
in your head. So they're just giving you it's pretty
much a pep talk, but they're telling you you want
these things. Fine, you just have to say, yeah, they're
already here. We told you earlier through David that they
were already here. You don't have to attract them. They're here.
You just have to line up with the frequency. You
do that. Your your frequency is your feeling. Your feelings
are your frequency. So ask yourself, how would you feel
in that brand new house?
Speaker 1: Amazing?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Then okay, right free?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then here's a better way. You want to
up that even more. The universe loves gratitude. That's just
how I put it. So when you go home tonight
from now on, walk in that house and go, I
can't wait for my big house. It is so cool,
and this is what it looks like. And as you
walking through your house, go, I am so thankful for
what I have. I am thankful for this window overlooking
because my new house overlooks something even bigger than this.
And you just want to be grateful for that house
you're in. Once you make peace with the house, I
have to say, because the house has energy too. You
make peace with the house, things will start just going
for you and you'll get them. You can get there
a lot faster. I have a house and I have
no money. I don't know how that happened. I have money,
but literally I live in a house. I was just
saying last year. I will never ever ever own a house.
I don't have the money. I don't make enough money.
And I worked at a regular job during the day
and I did readings at night, and I saved up
this money. I got hurt at work. I asked for it.
That's another thing that was manifested. I manifested surgery on accident.
But I slipped and fell for a place I worked for,
and it was I worked in the deli. I'm a vegetarian,
but I did it for like seven years, and I
wanted I just said one. It was on a Tuesday night.
I said, there was Monday night. It was Monday night,
and I said, okay, you guys, I need out of
this place. It's killing me now. I can't do this.
What are you guys doing. I'm like I told you,
I went out. I'm out of this place. I'm out
of this place. And I said to my angels, I'm
giving you permission to go ahead and get me out
of this. Take full control. I'm good. You have to
get you can get permission. Like that Tuesday night, after clothes,
the kids put down this wet stuff all over the floor,
no signs up. I came out of the bathroom. Foots
went up from under me. I slammed right under the camera.
I flew up in the air, went down and smashed
my elbow, which had these fingers. Were stuck like this
for two years, and I had to have surgery, cubito, carpol,
whatever surgery, you get it. So I had to settle.
I hated that job. I hated the place I worked for.
I can't say who they are, well, actually I can now,
but the big grocery store in Florida, the only grocery
store in Florida, but they were terrible. They were awful
to me. The manager got fired afterwards, but I ended
up getting some money out of that. I also had
stocks I didn't even know about. I stayed home. I
couldn't find another job. I didn't know what was going on.
And then I couldn't stay in my apartment. I had
leaks in it. I rented the house. The ceiling was leaking.
It was gross. I hated it. I was paying too
much money for it, and I'm like, I just want
a house. I'll never have a house. But then one
day I said, you know what, maybe I can have
a house. Let me start looking at him, and as
I looked at him. I started to get more confident.
I'm like, maybe I can swing this, even though, because
I make enough money just doing readings. Next thing, I know,
everything worked out and I actually not only did I
get the house, I had it in the exact area
that I wanted it too. And I've got in at
the view. My trees got blown down from the storm,
but I've got I'm surrounded by woods, is reel pretty
and I and now I own this thing. You know, yeah, everything,
if you look at this, everything that you've ever thought
about as a child has pretty much happened. I dreamed
about being a rock star, and I was a little kid.
I came a musician. I traveled all over and then
I got it into my head that I wanted to
be a writer and a comedian, and then I started
doing theater. Next thing I know it, I'm off to
Second City at school and I'm traveling around North Carolina.
Now you know, I was here as a comedian. And
so everything you think about, when you put it out there,
let the universe bring it to you. You don't even
have to figure out how you're.
Speaker 1: Going to do it. It's right. The how I feel like,
the how is none of your business.
Speaker 2: It really is none of your business. It'll tell you
what to do. You just got to do.
Speaker 1: Well, and not to keep you too long you're speaking. So,
but I was on the radio for thirty years. I
wanted to be on the radio since I was a kid.
I was on the radio while in college. I finished up.
I loved it, and then I wanted to do talk
and I did talk, and I wanted to do a
big morning show and I did that, and I wanted to,
you know, do all these things, and I wanted to own.
I wanted to own my own thing. And something didn't
work out in radio, and I left one company and
went to another, and you know, every everywhere I went
everything was good, good, good, And then something happened and
it all kind of came to a screeching hall and you.
Speaker 2: Wanted to did you want to own another? There's another job,
then another thing that you want to do. You still
want to do that? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That has to do with everything with you getting out
of that house and exploring those places, because that's going
to bring you to it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, this is it.
Speaker 2: In the state? Is it in the state you're in now?
Speaker 1: It would take me I would have to travel to
do what I wanted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm just selling you on your timeline.
If you visit that you're good. That's how I'm telling you.
They're telling that's they want you to get out, travel,
they want you to get out. I think you got
to get you got to know that you're not stuck
where you are, because it does feel like you're going
to move out of state at some point pretty soon,
but not really soon, but it does feel like you are.
Speaker 1: So yeah, what I I always wanted to own, like
again the radio shows things. So then I started the podcast,
and then I've started this offshoot, Blightenment, talking to people
like yourself who I feel we will have a message
that people need to hear. And then I have another
project that I want to do, but it would require
me to reach out to people and maybe go to
where they are to do it, you know. And that
and that's and that's the thing that I I want
to do. But in between there, I've been doing other
things and uh, I like you you know, now my
fourteen year old son's living with me. Money becomes a concern,
so I didn't know what to do, and some things
kind of dry up and you get a little wobbly,
and I went, I'm I substitute teaching during the day.
Speaker 2: That's that's just what happened.
Speaker 1: And I've absolutely loved it, man, I have loved it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you never know what life's going to give
you from the circumstances. But like I said, if you
still want to go do these things you wanted to
do before, the dream is still there. That's what they
were saying. You just got to travel outside of where
you're going. You got to ye and then you'll get it.
You know, to state it doesn't mean you sell everything
and go travel give up, but you want to visit
or see these places where you think you might end
up being. And that is it's called the law of action.
Once you once you take a dream or a thought
and you put one you just take one foot put
it towards there. The universe will move the other foot
for you. You got to put that one foot there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's very interesting. I feel like you've given
some real steps, tangible steps that people can use to
live better.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm kind of all over the place, and not
that everything's going to work for everybody, but it I
mean this is the stuff I don't tell you anything
that they haven't showed me. And I've used myself. Okay,
so I've yeah, I'm always doing stuff. I've I'm really
into hermetics nowadays. The book for the Three Initiatives, Oh, okay. Philosophy, Yeah,
the philosophy, and I follow those. I work with the
law of assumption, and I'd love the law of assumption.
I think the law of assumption is like the law
of attraction on steroids.
Speaker 1: What is the law of assumption then, meaning that if
I assuming it shall be well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's more to it. One and a lot of assumption.
You really got to go through your belief system that
that's still with you, because we probably all have belief
systems that are still bad. Like I used to have
the belief system about money. I used to I was
when I was growing up and doing all the stuff
I was doing. I was like, all evil people have money,
bad people have money, and I would say, I don't care.
I don't have enough money. But guess what, I'm still
a good person. That's why I'm not going to let
it change me. Until my guide said to me one day,
I David, you know what you're not getting any more
money because you keep believing that money's bad. And I said, well, yeah,
evil people have you know, are bad and they get money.
He said, no, just sometimes evil people have money. That's
all it is. Yeah, And I said, really said, yeah,
there's very good people, you just don't hear about them.
I change that. And when I change my thinking of
oh okay, I'm not going to assume that money is
bad anymore. I now assume that money is really good.
And I now assume that I can do all kinds
of cool stuff with money. When I have it, I
know how to distribute it. And then all of a sudden,
money my money. Yeah, it just happening. Yeah, you just
want to assume that character in the future at least,
you know, you know, the holes like Abraham even talks
about seventeen seconds. It's true. Just kind of hold that thought.
Don't worry about how you're going to get there. Just
hold the dream and the thought. Feel like you do. Now,
what does a rich person feels like? What does a
person who owns a radio station feel like? How does
that feel? And my last advice and that one was
I do this a lot, and it's fun like if
there's a certain thing you want, Like say, say you
want five million dollars, Okay, you got to ask yourself,
how would I feel with five million dollars? You're like,
I don't know because I don't have it right now.
So one thing you can do is go about think
about that feeling, and as you go through your day,
think about what during this day can give me that
feeling that's right here now? What can give me that feeling?
And search for it and you'll start finding out, Oh,
the woods make me feel elated, or driving my car
pass makes me feel this. You know, that's the replacement.
Once you feel that, then you go, oh, yeah, this
is what the five billion would feel like. I bet,
and this is how it's going to go and keep
that feeling and eventually you probably get it.
Speaker 1: Where did you learn all this? Some of it just
came back with me, some of it came back with you.
It's interesting because I you know, you talked about being
a young guy and knowing that there was no hell,
and I do think we come in and probably the
creatures that are closest to where you came from are
the young ones, and then we munk it all up.
Speaker 2: Well, well it's it's it's okay, I understand what you mean. Yeah,
our parents really screw everything up, no matter how beautiful
and wonderful they're trying.
Speaker 1: They're trying. I just think like that.
Speaker 2: That there is still a belief in us.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the programming and it's almost the lot.
Speaker 2: Of assumption too. The first thing if you want to
use a lot of assumption is you've got to take
that old adage when you assume, you make an ass
out of you and me. No, that's not true. Assumption
is not a bad thing. Assuming is not a bad thing.
In fact, if you were to wake up in the
morning and you say, I assume people are gonna smile
at me all day long, I just know it. I
just assume it. That's just it. It's my thing. I
do that now, and I have people smile at me
all the time, just because I assume that there's more
good people in the world than bad people. I just do.
I'm not there's some crappy people out there, but I
assume that all the nice ones are going to say
how to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always thought that. I've always thought that if
I dropped the wallet nine times out of ten, I'm
gonna get everything back with the contents in it, right.
Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always think that, David, this has been a real
pleasure for me, and I would love to have you
back again. I find you extremely interesting and I'd love
to hear more about the alien experience that you had
and all this stuff. They whispered to me dot com
do you have a book as well?
Speaker 2: I am writing your book, and you know, here's the
deal about it. I'm going to write. I've got a
couple I started. I was writing one about my near
death experience. And when I started, I realized they need
a point of context to see how because the book
is going to be for not only what I see
after death, but to know that no matter how crappy
your life is, because mine was terrible compared you know,
but I mean I don't look at it that way.
But it wasn't very good for a kid, you know.
But it's okay. It worked out, you know. It all
happened for a reason, and that's what I wanted to
express in the book. So I keep going back and forth.
And then I went through about a year where I
was talking to my guides and I'm like, I need
to know if this was dreamed or if this was real,
because there's some stuff that happened to me and why
I was unconscious that I know inherently, I'm like that
was drug related. That was drug related from the drugs
that gave me. Okay, you know, because because I remember
one thing it was really cool that happened, and I
kept getting this whole thing in my ear that was like,
that's not that wasn't us, that wasn't us, that wasn't us.
I was like, are you telling me that was drugs?
And the like, Yeah, I'm like, dang it, because that
was cool, you know, But but the stuff that they
was just as cool and way cooler. Yeah, it's it's
I forget. I get so excited when I talk about that.
It's such a cool thing.
Speaker 1: It is and I can see it, and it's it's
palpable your energy and everything go. Do they whisper to
me dot com? Uh, talk to David follow him on
TikTok because you do do the readings there, you said, right,
I do.
Speaker 2: I do probably like three or four times a week
at some point. I do free readings there and you
can ask whatever you want. And if I always tell
people if my guys are with me, for that because
I do in Claire audiently. So it's like if they
go this one, I just pin it up there, I
just do it.
Speaker 1: And then they answered the uh, and what do you
on TikTok for people to find you.
Speaker 2: Medium, David Hansel, it's it's make sure that there's like
over ninety six thousand followers. If it's under that, it's
not me.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I thank you very much. I hope you
have a wonderful thanksgiving and gratitude is what your you know,
what you're saying, it's sort of the key to get
what you want.
Speaker 2: Attitude and gratitude, enjoy everything and just have a good life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much, David. I hope to talk
to you again soon.
Speaker 2: All right, you too, thank you, Bye bye.
Speaker 1: There he goes David Hansel got to uh, I find
this stuff just fascinating, absolutely fascinating, and I think that
we get it wrong and everything we need is here,
and we guess need to go forward and do whatever
we want with good intentions and keep those good thoughts.
And I like what David said, you know, hold on
to the feeling of say it's money or whatever, how
is that going to make me feel really good stuff again,
they whispered to me dot Com for David Hansel. I'm
Bill Moran. We'll see you next week.
Speaker 4: Freaking change to hold us tie moving towards the endless.
Speaker 1: L I really enjoyed that. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Oh my pleasure.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I'm always like self shy and tell