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Baby well hello. Coming up in this episode, another Bill Lytton,

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David Hansel, psychic medium, had a near death experience. As

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in this episode with David Hansel. Another installment of bill

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Speaker 3: Seeking light in every place, we find the path with

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Out of trees, our hearts, guy by gentle Grave, no whiskers,

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out of the dreams, we find mine that set of ease.

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Speaker 4: Breaking change the whole house tie, moving towards the endless light.

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Speaker 5: By day, I was doing a little nervous about starting

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bill Lightenment, because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: As I've gotten deeper and deeper into i'll say life,

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I just see things. And I'm telling you, man, when

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that eclipse happened and we had a perfect view where

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we are despite the clouds. It was just one of

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these things we don't everything we need is here, and

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what are we sweating? And what are we panicking about?

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And what are we getting ourselves all worked up over what? Sometimes?

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but you never get it done. And as energy, you

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are eternal. And maybe some of the things that we

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were taught we weren't taught out of maliciousness. We were

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just taught out of misinformation. Sometimes That's exactly how I feel.

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And I've been looking to for a bunch of different

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people to do in this series of podcasts, kind of

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abilified offshoot less Dick jokes. But I found this gentleman

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named David Hansel. And David has had a near death

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experience and he's a psychic medium, and we'll talk to

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him all about that stuff. But the near death experience,

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I'm anxious to see if some of the things that

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I've really come to believe is true. And I haven't

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ever spoken with David, but I'm I'm very happy that

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he's here. David, Hello, Hey.

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Speaker 2: How you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing all right good. I why don't we start

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with the psychic medium? I have a question about this.

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and if you stay on that wavelength, if you stay

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on that vibration, then these things will happen. Because I

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think and that because it's always my favorite thing when

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somebody says, I went to a psychic and they told

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me this and it didn't happen. Man, and I, Okay,

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maybe there's a Charlatan out there. I don't know. I

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would never question somebody's ability if they believe it. I

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believe that they believe it. But I think that would

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that be a more accurate way to think of psychic mediums.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny that you you brought up

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that that that up because I'm the most skeptical, skeptical

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psychic medium that ever existed. I think I am. I've

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had the ability since I was a child. I mean,

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I grew up seeing ghosts and having ghosts in our

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house that moved from house to house for a while,

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and they weren't scary, the.

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Speaker 1: Same ghosts that just stuck with you. Same ghosts.

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I stayed till I was about seventeen. Okay, yeah, and

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not scary, just like they were there, you knew they

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were there. I wasn't seeing them. I didn't start. I

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didn't see the first one, like literally, there it is

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in front of my face until I was. I was

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riping for my seventeenth birthday and I had mentioned to

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them the other side is I didn't like that, and

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just because it was its unnerving for a moment. Yeah,

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really freak me out. But they showed me the child

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to let me know that children are everybody's fine no

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matter what happens. When you go here. It doesn't matter

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what age you are, You're fine. You go back to you.

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ignoring it. But I always knew things. I was the

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guy that people always ask questions in the bar. I

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could I could be drinking, I could be on whatever,

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and they'd always Dave, what do you see in this?

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ability I do. So if anybody's ever thinking that any

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medium or any medium or any psychic that tells you

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they're better than everybody else because they can see something

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that's simply untrue. You have a calling and you go

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for it. You know, we can all play the piano.

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a little better, a little faster. The same with some

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mediums and psychics. But anybody can learn how to play

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the piano. Whether you want to be a concert pianist

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or you just want to play at a bar, that's

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up to you. It's equally just as satisfying. But everybody

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does have this. I just cultivated it a little bit

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more and more after my NDE because I didn't really

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want anything to do with it until my NDE. But

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you know, some mediums, there's a lot out there that

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they read from a place of fear or they that normally.

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is trying to give you fear based things all the time,

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telling you your curse, telling you all that stuff, just

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get your money back and hang up the phone or whatever,

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because that's simply not true. You can't be cursed unless

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you agree with the curse. You can't be possessed unless

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you agree with the possession, you know, So I I

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find out. I know a lot of paranormal people hate

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me for that, but it's just how I see it.

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I've never had a bad experience in my entire life ever,

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been around gross all my life. I've had some unsettling

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things happened, but nothing was ever going to hurt me,

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and there is no curse that ever came to me,

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you know. And plus I love to throw an NDE.

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the NDA because I think that's the near death experience thing,

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because I think that's very telling and maybe how it

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shaped your life. But let's take a step back. You

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said you've had this ability all your life, but you

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sort of didn't want it. So sometimes when we want

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to escape things. I come from a very Irish family.

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A man do I like to drink.

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that's exactly what I did.

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these rules on people and tell them not to act

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this way. So they're looking for something to make them

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not act this way, and they choose the things that

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are easily available alcohol, and then we yell at them

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for you know what I mean, I think we've done.

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Speaker 2: I talk like a sailor.

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Speaker 1: Because I think we have fucked up people so badly

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with religion and beliefs and different things. And I would

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say that you never get it wrong you just like

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imposed stuff, this hatred, this idea that we're going to

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be judged, is I i'd like to think, is wrong.

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philosophical thing only going back to where you talked about

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you've never had a bad experience with uh? Is it?

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I mean, is there such a thing as evil? And

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we can look around the world and see it. But

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when we say a privation of.

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Speaker 2: Good Okay, here's here's here's what I'm saying when like

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a lot of people, most people understand me and I do.

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Another Podcas has too, and we a friend of mine

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who's more involved in like she knows more of the

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evil part of it, and she's not in that part,

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but she knows about it. I've had bad things happen

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to me, but not things like they show on TV.

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It's not to that scope what they're doing. I mean,

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I've had oh shadow people. I am a big shadow

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people see her. I see more shadow people a day

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than I don't know how many. And some are don't

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feel so good. Some do, but they don't bother me.

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They never have. And I don't know why that is

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my guides or my ghosts. And you know, my people

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always tell me it's because you have no belief in it,

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so they can't affect you. You're not you just don't

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have that belief for it. And so I tell people,

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evil and negative energy is a very real thing. The

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devil is not. The devil is as an arc type

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of human consciousness, the bad part of us, and we

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made it into some being. And like you said about religion,

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I really can't, because for some people, it's beautiful for them.

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you know, I went through my whole life telling people

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that's there's no such thing. Where are you guys getting

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this from? I like, prove it, and I'm like, well,

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I can't, but I just it's a knowing.

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Speaker 6: I know it.

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Speaker 2: I know it. And then when I have my nd

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that's when they said, yes, there is really literally no

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such place as how in in the biblical sense.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so well let's let's let's jump into the NDE

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because we keep referencing it or it seemed a turning

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point for you.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, my d my death saved my life. It

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really did.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you you got sick with pneumonia and ssis

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and sepsis and pneumonia is tough. I've I've battled a

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couple of rounds that myself, especially as a child and

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even as an adult, and it took me almost three

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weeks to get.

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Speaker 2: Over I had. I was diagnosed. Okay, for whatever reason,

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I don't hate that doctor. I had salty feelings for

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a while for him, but I thought, well, if that

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didn't happen, I wouldn't have gone through the experience that

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I went through, and I wouldn't be in the place

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I am today. So I'm like, Okay, it's cool it

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happened the way it happened. And he sent me back

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home after I was sick. I wasn't even walking anymore.

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My parents should be to this doctor like, he's not walking,

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he's not eating, he's not anything. And I was two

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hundred and forty pounds and still I could. I was

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really overweight and I was. They put me in a wheelchair.

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I couldn't walk and nothing. He said, oh, he's just

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from not eating because he's got a cough or something.

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And they just gave me cough medicine and nausea medicine.

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And I went back home. And it wasn't until two

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weeks later that it all hit. My parents even said, well,

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the doctor said you're fine. They left. They left me

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in the house alone, and my little brother had showed

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up and the one morning I had walked out and

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my last words were I walked in the room and

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my little brother came out and he said, David, you

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look like shit. What's wrong? And I just he said.

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I just looked at him and said, well, I'm going

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to die now. And I passed out and that was it.

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And then I don't remember the wheel.

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Speaker 1: Passed out almost you passed out at home.

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Speaker 2: I passed out at home. Yeah, the ambulance came and

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got me. I don't remember the ambulance ride. I don't remember.

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I was still alive in the first hospital. That's where

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they called my parents up where they were and they

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said he had subscesses. He's got it's been running through

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him for a while. It's not like new, like they

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didn't just find it or whatever. This is what I'm told.

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So they told my parents if he stays here, he's

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going to die tonight. We needed to take to another hospital.

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So they took me to another hospital. I kind of

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woke up for a moment. I remembered for a quick

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moment waking up, and in the second hospital, I didn't

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thought I was at the first one, but I just

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opened my eyes and there's just a bunch of people

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in front of me, just doing notes and all this stuff.

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And then I just closed my eyes again. And then

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I remember at that point it was almost like sleeping.

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And then there was this I started like I was dreaming.

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I saw the doctors over me and they're telling me

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to hang in there, and they were telling me that

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I was in surgery, although my eyes were closed and

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I was on the bed, but I was looking at

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them in their face, and I watched them do part

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of the surgery just to slide. I just remember looking

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over to my left and I'm like, what are they doing.

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They were breaking my They broke on my ribs and

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put they had to get into my I had my

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left lung was seventy percent covered in affection, so they

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had they had to go in and I put all

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these tubes and this fan in there or whatever. And

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then the last thing I remember is the doctors said

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he he knelt down, and he just said he's not

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said it to the nurse. He's not going to be

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able to speak for two weeks or something like that.

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I guess that was the time they started inserting the

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two tubes down my throat and at that point, something

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must have happened. I guess because they told me afterwards,

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after the whole thing. They said, yeah, in surgery, you stopped,

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everything stopped for a moment, and then they got you

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back fairly quickly. And I'm like, oh, that's the moment.

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I bet because I remember laying there and I heard this.

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It was like a click. It was just I went

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from there to this beautiful space. It was just absolutely beautiful,

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and that's where I knew. I'm like, aha, I have

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I died. I knew it right.

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Speaker 1: There is death, just no resistance. All resistance is gone.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's a really good way to

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put it. That's that's a phenomenal way to put it. It

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is you just accept it. You come. I mean, I

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think and even like that. People I talk to are

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spirits that I talked to. It's the same thing. It's

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just like it's you get to a certain point you're like,

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oh good, I'm leaving. I'm leaving, and you're like happy

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and you don't know why. I like, this is good.

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Speaker 1: You're going back to your your true self.

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Speaker 2: Well I wasn't back to my complete true self because

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of course I didn't stay. Yes, so I only I went.

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I guess you could say when I showed up, I

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didn't feel as if I had a body. I didn't care.

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I never looked down. Everything was just everything was in

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front of me.

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Speaker 1: And but you were aware.

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Speaker 2: I was very aware. And then I had I had

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a being on my left and two on my right,

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and we were having conversa the conversations within the head.

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We weren't watching each other's mouths or like we were

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standing here. It was just they were there and I

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knew them. I knew them really well. And I could

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not place the name, but I knew them. And the

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one on the left I remember turning and I know

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it was a her, And I said, where am I from?

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That was my biggest A like question, where am I from?

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Because I always felt the person you know here growing up.

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I mean, I know, nobody liked me in school. I

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had a terrible childhood. No big deal, you know everybody has,

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but it just it's one of those I never felt

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like I was in place. I felt like I'm I'm

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not a human. I don't fit here. What is this?

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And they pointed, And when they pointed, I saw the light,

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you know the light that everybody sees. It appeared in

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front of me, and they showed me like almost like

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I was going around and seeing it from an angle,

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and it looked like a like a cone that went

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up like this, and it's on a forty five degree

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angle and you see thousands of these beings going through where.

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And I just said there, and they gave me some

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other stuff which I kind of kept to myself, but

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I understood that. And then they took me to another

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place where I had It was just like a waiting

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area and it was beautiful. And it was funny because

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when I described to the waiting area to people, I've

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done an interview for a paper out of England, and

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I had said something because in this waiting area it

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was a beautiful, brightly white lit room. It was all

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white and it was like it didn't hurt your eyes.

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It was just beautiful. It was perfect. You're just sitting

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in there, but there's all these like it looked like

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glass bottles, but they weren't bottles, but they were different

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colors all over the wall. Like that wall was all

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these different colors, and it kind of reminds me of

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did you ever go to a big night club at

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night and you see a bar and like if they

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have all the booze behind the bar and it's lit

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up pretty Yes, it was like that, but more like,

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holy cow, this is the best setup I've ever saw

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in a bar in my life.

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Speaker 1: So you, huh, you got to go to a pub?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's that's what they said. It wasn't a

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pub whatsoever. It's just that they were stacked up like

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that like you'd see in a bar. That's what they wrote.

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Man dies in America and goes to pub in Heaven.

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And I was like, oh, dude, that's not what happened.

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Although I'm going to tell you this, I wasn't a

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place that was comfortable for me. So it probably maybe

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looked like that because I just came from a life

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of total boozing and drinking. And I was a comedian

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and I was going doing little doing shows and I

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was doing all this other stuff.

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Speaker 1: And you did stand up.

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Speaker 2: I did stand up for years and years. I studied

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that Second City in Chicago. I taught improv classes. I

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worked for the Charlotte Comedy Theater. I was a musician.

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I traveled all over I worked with one of the

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guys who wrote one of the songs for Wyatt Or

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put a band together, and I was with him for

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a while. I come from a musical family, but those

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things would always get pulled away from me. I'd get

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really far and do really well, and then it seemed

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like they got pulled away from me.

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Speaker 1: Why why do you think that is for this?

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Speaker 2: Maybe because they weren't. Yeah, because it maybe just wasn't

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what was my main purpose? You know, this is what

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I chose. I could have went back to it, but

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it just wasn't going to. But when I was in

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that room is a waiting room, that was the coolest,

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the absolutely coolest thing that ever. It's like, whatever you

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need to see is what you're going to see. And

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so if like when you pass over, say like everybody's like, oh,

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I want to see my mom and dad really bad.

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You know that that's good. That's who's going to be there,

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you know, most likely side.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to interrupt, but when you say beings and things,

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do they have a physical.

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Speaker 2: Form, they Okay, let me explain this. Yeah, I know

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the beings I had. I had three beings that had

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been with me all my life that I always knew

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there was something following me. Around, and I didn't know

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their names, but they were the ones helping me feed

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the information. Those are the beings that were there. And

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then one I guess if you could, the one on

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my left. Was it in human reference, in human terms.

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That was Archangel Ariel. Ariel has She had been with

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me my entire life. I just didn't know it. I

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knew she was there, I could feel her, but I

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didn't know who she was. So that's who people would

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consider to be archangel Ariel or an angel, if you

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want to put it that way. The other two were

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guides that have been with me. Both guides showed me

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what they really looked like shortly after I came out

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of the coma. So they're still with me. They're always

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with me, and they're very cool. Everybody's got them. I

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just the work I do. I just know them really well. Yeah,

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and they're very and they can show they can look

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however they want up. If you're asking about what you

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look like. On the other side, you can literally look

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like whatever you want to. I mean, you can keep

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this facade for a while or but most people don't.

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But here's a weird thing. They don't have to look

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like that for you to recognize them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, all right. See that's that's interesting. Yeah.

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I find everything that you're saying to sort of be

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my belief. And I would go back to religion. And

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I don't know what religions or religion you may may

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have practiced at some point in your life or parents practice,

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you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Catholic on my dad's side, Southern Baptist on my mom's side.

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In the Southern Baptist one, we had a choice. I

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had cool parents. When we were fourteen, we got to

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decide where we wanted to go. I said none of them,

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and my parents just asked why, and I said the

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one when I went to the it was an evangelist

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church here in the South. I'm sorry if anybody's evangelist,

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I'm not picking on you, but I'm just telling you

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as as like a very young child, when they took

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me to Sunday School there, I always remembered I sat

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in this room with the other kids, and I never

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felt more uncomfortable in my life. And in my head,

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I'm thinking, oh, these people think I'm some psychic or

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they know it, and I'm evil, and that's why I'm

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not feeling good here because that's what people put on me,

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which was stupid, because I probably know God better than

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most people, you know. I know God is more. That's

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why I talk to all the time. I talked to

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00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,680
God all day long. I just don't call it God.

475
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,799
But they were talking about Hell and everything. And when

476
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:16,519
we got up, my mom and my grandfather who is

477
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:18,319
the guy who passed around that hat, and they're a big,

478
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,440
beautiful church with everybody dressed up, you know, and I

479
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:25,599
just my mom said, Hell is Sunday School. And I said, Mommy,

480
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,079
I said, they try to tell us that we're going

481
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,440
to die and burn someplace. And my mom just was like,

482
00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:33,720
like that and I said, no, Mommy, I said, that's

483
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,640
the truth. They're lying to us. They're lying to them.

484
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,759
Why are they lying to them?

485
00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:37,799
Speaker 6: And that was it.

486
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: They never took me back to that church because everybody

487
00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:43,880
heard me. They're like, what was that little boy talking about?

488
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,519
But I always knew that. And my dad was Catholic,

489
00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:49,559
and although Catholic was beautiful, I loved the churches. I

490
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,359
felt like, wow, this is just mysterious and all that.

491
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,359
But there was a sense of dread that I feel

492
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,000
in Catholic churches, not saying Catholic is bad.

493
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: No, I feel now I understand what you're saying. I

494
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:06,839
guess my questions. You're saying so many things. I have

495
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,200
so much I want to ask. No, No, that's okay.

496
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,039
I'm going back to sort of I was going to say,

497
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,000
where we learn about Jesus. I too. Uh. My parents

498
00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:24,960
were Catholic up until I was age seven, and I

499
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,119
think not talked about really ever with me, but I

500
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,720
think my dad started out in the seminary and then left, Okay,

501
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:36,279
so he was going on his way right, And at

502
00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:40,119
seven my dad was has a doctor in philosophy, and

503
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:42,880
he thought that they weren't getting enough out of the

504
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,880
Catholic Church, so we went to what was more of

505
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,240
a Protestant base but Evangelical church in the Northeast. I

506
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,240
grew up in the Northeast and I was really kind

507
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,279
of into church, but there was always this thing with

508
00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:58,480
me where I kind of was like, I don't know

509
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,559
that this is really the way. And as I got

510
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:05,640
older and I have had these discussions with my father,

511
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,000
who always thinks I'm way off base with this, but

512
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,920
I feel like they misinterpreted what Jesus said. I feel

513
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,599
like Jesus came down here to say be like me,

514
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,279
you are like me, be like me.

515
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: But you know I supposed to be supposed to be,

516
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,680
that we're all christ we.

517
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: Are yes, yes, and that all these things, all these

518
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,039
like power. I don't want to say powers because that

519
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:33,119
makes it sound weird, but all these things you have

520
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,000
the ability. That's why I really loved what you said

521
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,279
in the beginning. Everybody has these abilities, it's just whether

522
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,359
you choose to tap in. I feel like the real

523
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,720
work in life is controlling your emotions and going for

524
00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:49,279
the better feeling thought. And I say that often, and

525
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,920
a listener to the podcast made me a coaster with

526
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,400
all the sayings I say on there, like what other

527
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,480
people's opinion of you is none of your business and uh,

528
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,319
you know, only in the barrier to entry. But basically

529
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,440
I always say go forth and tell no one. I

530
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,000
remember when Jesus healed people, he would say that, and

531
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,480
I always felt like that was misinterpret only because when

532
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:15,480
you tell people, and I can't wait to ask this

533
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:19,119
question with your near death experience, when you tell people

534
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000
not that they're being evil, like if you have an

535
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,920
idea to do something, they're going from their perspective, probably

536
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,240
out of love. Don't do that. Then I try that

537
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:32,039
it's going to fail, and then you get the doubt

538
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:34,279
in your head and so you fail. And I feel

539
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:37,880
like that's what Jesus was saying when he would heal somebody. Lepper,

540
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,079
he puts his earback on, and you go back, you know,

541
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,079
back to your your crew, and marveloks that. She goes, Yeah,

542
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:44,400
I give it two weeks out of you. Here's going

543
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,759
to fall off, and the doubt comes back in. Go

544
00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:49,000
forth and tell no one. And I don't know if

545
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,319
I'm I know, I'm all over the place.

546
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:55,519
Speaker 2: Where absolutely absolutely yeah, I know what you're saying, and

547
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:59,839
I agree with you. Listen for anybody who's wondering this

548
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:04,200
or something, just so they know. Jesus, all the deities

549
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,680
from our religions, they all came down here for a

550
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,839
purpose to kind of say, hey, dudes, we're just giving

551
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,279
him some little cliff notes. This is what you can do.

552
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:14,480
This is how this stuff can go if you let it.

553
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:17,079
And then they left it up to us. We have

554
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,279
free will, we all do. They can only come down

555
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:21,559
here and explain something. Whether you took it or not,

556
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:27,640
you did. Unfortunately, humanity took religion the wrong, totally wrong way,

557
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:30,960
because I know who Jesus is and I am one

558
00:29:31,319 --> 00:29:33,200
I know sit in pary to Jesus every days, not

559
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,680
the d day that I talk to a lot. I've

560
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,559
talked to Mary quite a bit. I love Mary and

561
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,920
very cool. I mean, these people, it all depends on

562
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,839
you look at it. Like when I see Jesus or

563
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:45,720
when I used to do meditations and Jesus will come

564
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,200
around me. He wasn't some white dude in a robe.

565
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:52,279
I mean it wasn't it was. Yeah, I know it's

566
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:55,880
not funny, but he'd show himself whatever way I needed

567
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,559
to see him. And for me, he looks like yippie

568
00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:02,359
and he's very cool. And tell you what, he's very cool.

569
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,839
And I couldn't even tell you what nationality was, and

570
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,680
he's And the hardest thing I remember, probably the best,

571
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:10,839
the one thing that I've taken away that I had

572
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:13,880
to learn through that deity after my MD, which is

573
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,200
extremely difficult to do, you guys, but it can be done.

574
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:21,720
I just can't hate anyone no matter what they've done,

575
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:24,160
no matter what they did, because I always look at

576
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,400
everybody else as if there's there. When I look at somebody.

577
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,519
I always say to myself, I'm looking at me, I'm

578
00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:32,359
looking at God, I'm looking at everything else. So no

579
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,160
matter how bad that person is on the outside, I

580
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:39,480
know inside there is like just total love and they're

581
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:42,279
experiencing something or doing something. That's so I tell people

582
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:45,680
there is no soul left behind, no matter what terrible things.

583
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,680
Some souls literally come here to do bad things in

584
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,400
order to give us that contrast, so we can have

585
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:56,079
this experience outside of this world, like I tell people,

586
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:59,160
like demons and monsters and ghats and all that. Yeah,

587
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,839
within this world you can have that. You can experience

588
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,880
something to that nature and label it whatever you want to.

589
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,000
But outside of here, it doesn't exist. It just doesn't.

590
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,839
The ego's gone. Everything's gone once you go. Once it's

591
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,160
all topped the way, it's different. But that's what I

592
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:16,839
got out of the teachings of Jesus and all them,

593
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,920
is that you literally do just have to love someone now.

594
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,160
You don't have to be the other one that was.

595
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,960
They used to always tell me this all the time.

596
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,559
And I'm not a religious guy, but they used to

597
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:28,799
always tell me, don't cast pearls before swine, And I'm like, wait,

598
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:30,319
what are you? What are you trying to talk about?

599
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:32,519
They're like, if they're not listening and they don't want

600
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,640
anything to do with this, then don't talk to them.

601
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,039
And then they gave me a rule that I've gone

602
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:40,759
by for the last ten years almost is not without

603
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:44,119
being asked, which means I don't run up to people

604
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:45,920
on the street and go, I got your dead grandma here.

605
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:48,759
That's not going to work. It's I have to be

606
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,079
asked the question. Even for a psychic greeting. I don't

607
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:54,960
I'll make a judgment about somebody because of the fact

608
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,160
that I am a spirit having a human experience and

609
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,319
I'm really quite enjoying it. And you can tell people

610
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:05,160
too when you look out there too, the world is

611
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:08,160
a mirror of you. It's in your heart. Jesus said

612
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,359
that a billion times of people, and people just did

613
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,799
not catch on. It's like, whatever you feel in here

614
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,920
is what you're going to project out there. So if

615
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,440
you always say, oh, this world is a terrible world

616
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,599
and there's cruelty and all this stuff going on and

617
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,799
on and on, it's like, well, that's because there's something

618
00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:28,960
in you that's turned off. Yeah. Basically, it's like turn

619
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,240
off all those stupid things. I mean, but we just

620
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,359
learned and it was supposed to We just learned through

621
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,319
something we went through the United States that people literally

622
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:41,279
fall for anything on all sides. It's just crazy. And

623
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,640
I'm sitting here in the meantime going I'm just I'm like,

624
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:49,119
I know things are changing constantly because change is a constant.

625
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:53,559
It's always happened. Nothing never stays the same, right, everything

626
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,640
changes constantly.

627
00:32:55,119 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: So what the near death experience? And when you we're

628
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,559
a child and knew, like you were saying, there is

629
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:08,279
no hell and so basically get kicked out of church? Uh,

630
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:11,079
or at least that's what it sounds like. I think.

631
00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:16,160
Do we choose to have a human experience? Is there

632
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:18,680
sort of a counsel and we choose to have this

633
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:21,839
and you kind of pick your family and go. And

634
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,359
I think that a lot of times people go, I

635
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:27,039
wouldn't have picked these crazy people. But do you know

636
00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:30,359
what I'm saying, Like, it is it that free?

637
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: It's a it's a yeah. It's a very difficult question

638
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,079
to ask, just because some people will take this wrong,

639
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,519
but I'm going to answer it because people need to know, Yes,

640
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,000
we do, we do choose to do this. This is

641
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,400
a choice. Yes, it's a choice to come back here.

642
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:50,319
There is no reincarnation wheel where you're thrown back here.

643
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,920
If you don't, don't turn away from the lights so

644
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,079
you don't get caught in the reincarnation wheel. That's for me,

645
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,720
that's just all bull. You do what you want to do, right,

646
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,759
I will find I find even myself and what they

647
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:04,559
showed me on the other side. A lot of people

648
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:06,680
here who go I will never come back to this place.

649
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,800
I will know they're the first ones back over there going,

650
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,000
oh I want to go back. That was cool because

651
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,159
if you can realize this, when you when your physical

652
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,559
body dies, when your time is over here, however you

653
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:24,519
decided to go, you go back to you again. Everything

654
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:27,760
is undone. If you lost your arms because something blew

655
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,599
up and or alegator ate your leg, you got all

656
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:33,079
those things back after here. You're just back to you again.

657
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,960
This is I can tell you, this is the dream

658
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:39,920
over there is real. That was real. I can't recreate

659
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,280
that feeling if I tried right now, and I have tried,

660
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,039
and it's like, oh, it's not there because I'm here

661
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:48,199
right now, but it's it's real. This, this is real.

662
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,599
But that's really real.

663
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,639
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of people who will tell you,

664
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,800
like everything when you think about you and I are

665
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,480
having a conversation, but how many things are happening in

666
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,679
the world right now? Right So there are those who

667
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,840
are quantum physicists, maybe metaphysicists to a certain that'll tell

668
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,280
you everything is happened all at once. It happens all

669
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,760
at once, and that sometimes even the people who have

670
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,920
passed on, they're just on a different frequency, that's all.

671
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,199
It is, like you can't watch the same channel, so

672
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,920
they're still over there. You're just they're just not on

673
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,920
your frequency. Would that be? Is that fair?

674
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 2: And yes, they're all they're they're in control of the TV,

675
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,079
of the remote control, I should say. So it's true.

676
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:38,599
Everything is all of the past. Lives are happening now.

677
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:40,800
They're not happening in the past. Your future lives aren't

678
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,079
happening in the future. This is all. It's the same moment.

679
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,159
If you look at it this way. The universe is mental.

680
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:48,519
And if you can understand that, we're literally God's thought

681
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:51,079
right now. God's one thought, and we are all in

682
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:53,360
it and doing it and everything, and we are God.

683
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,880
So we're all those things. So we're just we're just

684
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,480
going on for an eternity, just just living and loving

685
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:01,400
and doing all kinds of stuff. I know it doesn't

686
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,679
seem like that now, but trust me, now, when you

687
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,000
go over there, if you are in spirit and not

688
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,119
in any physical thing, I guess you could. I guess

689
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:10,800
I could look at it this way. They'd like have

690
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,800
the remote control so they can watch the channels. Yes,

691
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,519
they can focus in on each channel with all the

692
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,559
channels still being there at the same time. It's just

693
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,800
like watching TV. Yeah, if you're watching TV, there's fifty

694
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,639
thousand things on, but you put on one pat into

695
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:28,000
that vibration and that's where you are, right.

696
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:31,639
Speaker 1: So let me ask this, and I am bouncing all

697
00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:36,559
over you mentioned shadow people. Yes, I have talked to

698
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:39,639
people that have said all of us, and I don't

699
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:41,039
know if you'll agree with this or not. And I

700
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:45,599
am very very curious as to your called opinion on this,

701
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:50,639
that all of us have attachments that some people when

702
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,000
their time is up, either it happened so fast or

703
00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:58,400
they were so drugged up when they passed on that

704
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,760
they don't know they're dead.

705
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: And it's just some more than I don't. Those aren't

706
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,239
shadow people. Those shadow people are these energy beings that

707
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:15,079
either they might be people who left, like they they're

708
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,039
hanging out in the astral room right now, because there

709
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:19,480
is an astral room before this. We visited all the time.

710
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:21,199
People do it all the time, even though they don't

711
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,760
know it. They do it when they sleep. They're always

712
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,360
going over there. They're seeing their loved ones, they're talking

713
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,440
to guides, they're doing this, they're doing that, but they

714
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,639
just don't remember. When you do remember, it'll freak you

715
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:35,440
out though, because you'll be like, oh, yow, that was real. Yeah,

716
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,320
so it's you know. And to throw this in the

717
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,480
mix with shadow people too. Shadow people, like I said,

718
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:47,159
they're we're putting that energy out there. Usually it's for

719
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,039
our own good. It's for something that we need. So

720
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:55,440
like I had shadow people that oh, when I was drinking,

721
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,920
that's where they would be around, and they weren't like

722
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,800
there like illusions. I mean because I've seen them when

723
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,800
I wasn't drinking. I would see when I'm not drinking,

724
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,679
when I was drinking, they would literally be there and

725
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:11,880
they were they seem to People would say they were evil,

726
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,199
but I'm like, not really because they didn't like the

727
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:18,360
fact I was drinking, so they would always want me

728
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,320
not to. But shallow people, yet some people do forget.

729
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,960
Nobody's stuck. But yeah you can. If you are afraid

730
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,920
of hell, you've got this big fear. You might not

731
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:28,800
go over thinking that you're going to burn in hell

732
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,559
for some reason, because you still keep your emotions right

733
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:33,679
away when you leave here, until you go through that

734
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,039
light or go through that transition, you're still this personality.

735
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,880
So yeah, if they have fear or they're loss or

736
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,360
like you said, it happened. I've talked to people it

737
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,800
happened so fast that they just were They walked around

738
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,840
for a while and then started wondering why aren't people

739
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,400
interacting with me, And it's like, dude, because you're dad,

740
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,119
you can go now, you can go. Yeah, And that's

741
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:00,960
what rescue mediums usually do. People ask about her rescue

742
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,519
meet him. I haven't had any people who told me

743
00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:07,320
they were stuck here. I did have an older lady

744
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,360
who I went on an investigation, and she when I

745
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,360
walked into the room, she had all these dolls people

746
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,679
would leave for her, and I walked in there and

747
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,559
they were talking about how evil she was, and I

748
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:18,360
walked in there and I sat in there for a while,

749
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,920
good half hour, just sat there, and I was like,

750
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,280
where are they getting this evil crap from? She wasn't

751
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,280
even she's in two places, she said, she's in heaven.

752
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,559
But she told me she loves to visit this place

753
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:31,920
because people come to see her and leave her the dolls.

754
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,519
So she loved it, and she would play the part

755
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:36,599
of a ghost for them. That's all it was.

756
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it's almost like it's entertaining for them.

757
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:42,599
Speaker 5: It is.

758
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,079
Speaker 2: It's not people think that this is this big weird

759
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:49,480
thing and it's not. It's really quite natural. And that's

760
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,039
where you come from. It is entertaining joy and laughter.

761
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:53,719
The other side thinks it's funny.

762
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, okay. So I was told that

763
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,000
though some of those people, in order to to keep living,

764
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:05,360
need human energy, so they attach themselves to you, and

765
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,400
sometimes you need you can actually ask them to go

766
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:11,679
and it would be there. But let's take it one

767
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:17,800
step further. There are exorcisms. Is that something that what's

768
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,639
your opinion? I don't.

769
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,199
Speaker 2: I am zero belief in exercises. Okay, okay, zero? What

770
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,599
But that doesn't mean that people aren't in experiencing something.

771
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,239
It's just like when you say the energies, Yeah, there's

772
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,039
a theory, and I kind of do believe in that

773
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:35,480
as well as far as the attachments go, because it's

774
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,000
not because everybody always says I have an attachment whenever

775
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:39,920
they do something bad. I had an attachment. That's why

776
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,840
I was so evil. I'm like, no, maybe you were

777
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,360
just a jerk and you need to take accountability. Maybe

778
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,239
you can't keep blaming it on attachments, you know. But

779
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:50,480
there are people. If you are drinking a lot or

780
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,079
something like that and you're going on investigations, and there

781
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:56,360
is a somebody who's still around here because they love

782
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,280
the physicals so much and they don't want to leave

783
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,480
this life because that happens. They just don't want to.

784
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:02,920
They know they can, but they don't want to. They're

785
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,599
going to try to step into your energy. It's almost

786
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,199
it's almost like that's their water, you know. But you

787
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,239
can to tell them to go away. They know who

788
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,079
they can step into and who they can't. And you

789
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:16,039
know who they can step into. Very stupid people, that's

790
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:18,559
who they can step into. And I'm not saying stupid

791
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:20,199
in a mean way. I'm like people who are just

792
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,239
so ignorant to the world, you know, or they they're

793
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,840
five drunk teenagers playing the wigi board. I'm like, why

794
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,199
would you do that? I mean the wigi board. The

795
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,440
chances of you getting possessed by a wigi boarder like

796
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,039
to me, ninety nine point nine percent. No, you know,

797
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,880
but do you play drunk, You're gonna get energies that

798
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,519
are on you. That's gonna be the that's the experiencing.

799
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:43,920
That's the experience you're literally calling forth. The world gives

800
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,039
you whatever you ask for. I tell people that.

801
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,039
Speaker 1: There it is. So I wanted to say this to

802
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:55,800
you because you said that you really can't hate anybody.

803
00:41:56,559 --> 00:42:01,639
Yeah you can't, Okay, so I can't. No, No, I

804
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:06,119
have said that I think that human beings are incapable

805
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,960
of unconditional love. Then then you said that, and I go,

806
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:13,639
maybe you are. Maybe you're the one that I've met

807
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,599
that isn't.

808
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:18,039
Speaker 2: Oh you are. There's there's many people. I mean, just

809
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:24,760
because you know, I have a sibling that is not

810
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,880
a very good person, a very nice person, and he's

811
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,880
drunk and he hasn't worked for twenty years, and he's

812
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,960
just you know, piece crip and but and I used

813
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,880
to hate him with all my heart, but now I

814
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,599
look at him and I see I understand the journey is.

815
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:39,719
That's the whole thing. If you're a psychic or who

816
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,880
I am, A lot of psychics will tell you I

817
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,039
understand the journey. I really. I get why they're being

818
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:46,679
a jerk, and I get why they're a drunk, and

819
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,039
I get why this is happening because it's something they

820
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:51,960
wanted to learn and come out of. So that's what

821
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,480
I mean about. There is unconditional love. We have an

822
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,159
additional love. You know, who has unconditional love automatically is animal.

823
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,119
Even if an animal bites you, it's still unconditional love

824
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:05,199
because it's not biting you because it hates you. It's

825
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,840
biting you because you're interrupting its energy and it scared

826
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,960
them in some place. That's why it bites you. A

827
00:43:10,039 --> 00:43:12,400
dog doesn't sit there and go I'm going to kill

828
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,480
that human being. It's not premeditated. It's just I'm in

829
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,159
that energy or someone commanded me to do this thing.

830
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,840
Otherwise they love you.

831
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always think like the universe has unconditional love,

832
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,920
and whatever whatever your belief is, and I think a

833
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,000
belief is just a thought you think over and over

834
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:36,159
whatever you believe you're going to get. So if you

835
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:38,639
believe you don't have enough money on you know, the

836
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,800
universe loves you, but you don't have enough money. So

837
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,880
I think that a lot of times one of the

838
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,960
things that in the human experience, we don't like to

839
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,679
not know or not have control. So I think that

840
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,360
people probably come to you for answers to things. And

841
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,440
I think that it's very scary because we don't really

842
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,119
know what death is. Despite the fact that you come

843
00:44:03,159 --> 00:44:05,039
back and tell us, but we still will doubt you.

844
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:08,599
And I've got to think people have the first time

845
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:10,920
you told somebody you had a near death experience, what

846
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,719
was the reaction and taken away from someone who may

847
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,719
be a believer, but a close friend or a relative

848
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,800
of somebody, what did they say.

849
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,559
Speaker 2: The first person that I told something that happened to

850
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,400
was the nurse when I woke up, because I was

851
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,800
supposed to be There's a long story that goes to it.

852
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,840
They called my parents. I was after my surgery. When

853
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,440
I came out, they induced a coma and then they

854
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:39,679
explained to me it's hard to explain. I remember I

855
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,800
stayed unconscious and then they got me awake, which I

856
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,159
don't remember any of that except I remember doing the

857
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:48,280
clock test. That's all I remember. I was doing the

858
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,320
clock test because they told my parents, we think the

859
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,800
sepsis went to his brain and he has oh yeah,

860
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,119
they went to so and you has a dimension now,

861
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:02,639
And they told my parents that they literally went to Wisconsin,

862
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,480
got all my paperwork, and they got the home ready

863
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,239
that I was going to go to. And all I

864
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,239
remember is hearing in my head sounded like people were

865
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,199
ripping boards off, just like ripping down a wood building,

866
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,880
just you know, back and forth and crunching and names

867
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,320
and I'm was sitting there and this goes back to

868
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,360
the story that happens there. And then it was like

869
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,119
the voice of God. I guess if you want to

870
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:31,639
say that just said, okay, you're going back now. Okay,

871
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,000
you're ready, You're ready. That's all I kept thinking was

872
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:38,079
you're ready, You're ready. And then room. I opened my eyes.

873
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:40,239
I didn't recognize where I was, but I just looked

874
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,039
at the nurse and I said, wow, I wish my

875
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:46,159
family was still alive. And she goes, what did you say?

876
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,079
And I said I wish my family was alive. And

877
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,320
I had mentioned that my dog, my dog died, and

878
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,480
that my older brother died, and that I wasn't sure

879
00:45:58,519 --> 00:46:00,400
my parents where they were gone. She's like, your parents

880
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,400
have been here every day for the last two months, honey.

881
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,199
And then I looked up and I said, and I

882
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,480
mention started talking to them, saying, are you the nurse?

883
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:10,079
Where's that nurse that looks like this and some that?

884
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,400
And we had a conversation. She's like, no, honey, you

885
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,719
didn't have a conversation. You were in ICU. You had

886
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,039
tubes and everything in you. I said, yes, I did.

887
00:46:18,039 --> 00:46:20,840
There was a nurse there and we were talking. They

888
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,960
found the nurse and she came in. She was I

889
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,400
told her the conversation we were having and all that,

890
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:29,159
because I'm like, I wasn't I was running around, I

891
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:34,960
was doing stuff. I wasn't gone, you know. But when

892
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,320
I came back, it probably took a good year to

893
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,719
remember who I was, because I didn't remember fully. But

894
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,960
as soon as I started saying that, my parents showed

895
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:46,800
up and I started remembering things. I had to learn

896
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,960
how to walk again because I was had the muscle

897
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,320
atrophy from being in bed to you know, I had

898
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,639
to learn how to walk again, learn how to shave again.

899
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:59,519
I didn't recognize myself. My hair changed to another color.

900
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:03,840
It was weird, there's trauma something. As my hair started

901
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,119
growing out, it was changing the color. And I plus

902
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,639
I lost that was over one hundred pounds in less

903
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:16,719
than two months. So when I first saw myself, I

904
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,440
didn't recognize me. Yeah, and that could have part of

905
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,639
the NB too, because I didn't recognize my face even

906
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:26,440
though I have was skinny. I was like, where's where's

907
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:29,199
all my body? Where did it go? Because you know

908
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:31,760
I was skinny now and then I didn't know I was.

909
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,239
But anyway, long story short, I can't remember where I

910
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,199
even went off on this when I started talking about this.

911
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,039
Speaker 1: But let me ask you about then life, because I

912
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:48,800
often say it had no meaning other than the meaning

913
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,280
you give it.

914
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: That's exactly, that's it. That's just it. People, what's the

915
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,639
meaning of the life. Whatever you need to have it mean,

916
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,599
that's what it is.

917
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:05,639
Speaker 1: Okay. And then the idea that somebody did something to

918
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:09,039
me or they're controlling me, or is there anything as assertion?

919
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,440
Is that a real thing? Or is that sort of

920
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,079
assertion meaning like, you know, no one can kind of

921
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:19,199
control you or tell you what. Yeah, but we but

922
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,760
we believe that. And when we believe it, so you

923
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,679
know how people will often say and uh, I.

924
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: Hypnosis is a wonderful proof. I love hypnosis. I think

925
00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:34,320
hypnosis is the most beautiful thing, and people should learn

926
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,480
how to self hypnotize themselves. I like you're doing is

927
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:39,280
just opening up a part of your brain that's so

928
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,880
quiet all the time. That's even a hypnosis. Any hypnosis

929
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,079
person will tell you you're not going to do what

930
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:50,239
you wouldn't do anyway. So if a hypnosis puts you

931
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,559
on a hypnosis and told you to go jump off

932
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:55,480
that building, unless you are literally ready to jump off

933
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,360
that building, you're not need to do it, and you're

934
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,199
not going to hurt anybody while you're doing it. Yeah,

935
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,320
it's all. It's all, Well, it is belief system that

936
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,079
kind of proves. It's your belief system. What if you

937
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:07,519
believe that you're young all the time, and if you

938
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:10,239
stay in the moment all the time, you're gonna most

939
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,880
likely you're going to look young for most of your life.

940
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,159
It's just gonna happen because you believe it. Your body

941
00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:18,880
responds to your beliefs as well. That's how people heal

942
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,960
each other, and that's how healers heal people sometimes and

943
00:49:22,039 --> 00:49:24,400
not that the healer is doing the healing. The healer

944
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,559
is just facilitating. It's kind of letting the soul. Now, hey,

945
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:31,159
you can literally make yourself feel better, you know, so.

946
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: The so because again we'll go back to like your

947
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:40,559
your abilities, and I really I've got to love talking

948
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:43,480
to you. You just seem like such a cool, open person.

949
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:48,159
And oh, thank you very very h you know, accepting,

950
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:52,000
but I would again most people looking for answers, I

951
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,000
really believe, and it it's again an easier said, the

952
00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:01,199
done type thing that you can have or be or

953
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:06,039
do anything you want in this life. Sure, but you

954
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:11,599
but you can't. Contrast is there and as you pointed out,

955
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:14,960
even souls that may want to do what we would

956
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,760
consider evil or bad things to give us the contrast, right,

957
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:21,119
and contrast is important. You you know what you don't want,

958
00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:23,440
you know what you do want. It gives you a

959
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,199
point of reference.

960
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

961
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: But sometimes we get so caught up in it that

962
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:33,760
we put resistance and so we start thinking thinking, thinking

963
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,960
about I don't have enough, I'm not going to get

964
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:39,519
enough or or I never things never work out for me,

965
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:43,000
all this stuff, and that's more what we get back

966
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:45,599
back to your idea that it's really a mirror. It's

967
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:50,079
a mirror. So how do we what? What do you take?

968
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,800
What would you say to somebody who's looking to change that?

969
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:57,039
Is there an easy way to change it? Yeah, to

970
00:50:57,159 --> 00:51:00,440
change your your beliefs, like I always think, I would say.

971
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,880
I would say to my sons often. I have three

972
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,719
sons of various ages, and I would always say to them,

973
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,679
you got to go for the better feeling. Thought the

974
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,000
idea of you got to think positive. That sounds impossible,

975
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,079
but you can get you can go from anger to blame.

976
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:19,280
It's a little bit better, right it's not, And you

977
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,960
can keep kind of going up the emotional scale. Thus

978
00:51:22,039 --> 00:51:26,559
changing your vibration is sort of my thing. And you know,

979
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:32,000
the idea of you know the best, go for the

980
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:34,960
best feeling, or I'm trying to think even we're in

981
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,480
the moment, you know, go for whatever is the best

982
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,360
feeling in the moment.

983
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, My thing is that to anybody who wants things

984
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,639
to change for them, we spend a lot of time

985
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,880
looking in the mirror, making sure, we look a different way,

986
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,280
we dress our bodies, we do all these things. We

987
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,119
you know, pay attention to how we speak to somebody,

988
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:57,039
we go get school and all that stuff. But the

989
00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:00,280
one thing nobody does is monitor their own thoughts. Why

990
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,639
is nobody paying attention to what's going around in their head?

991
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,440
If they did, things would start changing, because then you

992
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,400
can start turning off thoughts. Case in point, like how

993
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,360
to look at things in a different way. This morning,

994
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,360
I I was grabbed my coffee, i'd feed my cats.

995
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,199
I got four funky cats, and I drank my coffee.

996
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,400
I put it next to me. I've got all like

997
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,119
my where my counter. My it's like a big gum

998
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,039
looks like a big chest that has all kinds of

999
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:28,559
witchy looking fun stuff on it that I love. And

1000
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:30,400
I put my coffee down on one of my cats,

1001
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:32,920
jumped knocked my coffee on it when all over my

1002
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,880
iPad and broke on the side of the counter. Most

1003
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,679
people would go, you know, god, damn dad of the day,

1004
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,159
freaking cat and all that, And I was I started

1005
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,719
laughing because you know what, that got me out of

1006
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,880
the whole experience. The cat looks so freaking funny. Jumping

1007
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,159
over me to do that. What he did, That's what

1008
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:51,800
I was laughing at, is like I didn't care about

1009
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,800
it's coffee on a floor. I can fix that. I

1010
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,599
can rebuy any of this stuff. It's not a billion dollars,

1011
00:52:56,639 --> 00:52:59,280
you know, and my iPad's fine. It's just how you

1012
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,440
focus on it. We don't have to have the emotions

1013
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,559
that society tells you to have. Like some people when

1014
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:10,679
they're scared, they laugh, some people when they're nervous, they'll giggle.

1015
00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:14,360
You know, some people loved one will die and one

1016
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,199
person will cry for the next six months and want

1017
00:53:17,199 --> 00:53:19,039
I'll go right back to work the next day and

1018
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:22,079
it won't hit them for a long time. It's up

1019
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:26,400
to us to determine how we want to react to something.

1020
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:29,679
Once you you know, once you pay attention to how

1021
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,480
you react to things, it starts to change. And like

1022
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:37,280
you said about raising your vibration, the more positive. And

1023
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,320
I'm not saying you have to say that every day's

1024
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,599
a good day and all that other stuff. Sometimes they're not.

1025
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,400
But if you keep saying it, it's going to happen.

1026
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,000
You're most likely going to get there.

1027
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's go back to the story you just

1028
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,440
told about the cat and the thing, because I would

1029
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,519
be in a situation like that, and I have My

1030
00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:00,559
youngest son is fourteen, my oldest son is four, so

1031
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:02,559
there's quite a range in there, and there's only three

1032
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:05,760
of them. There's another one in between. And when the

1033
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,079
little one would do stuff much like this, knock something over,

1034
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:14,639
I would say, God, damn it, Jamison. And Jamison at

1035
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:17,639
five six years old, turned it into a song and

1036
00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:20,119
he started walking around going God, damn it, Jameison, God

1037
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,159
and that made me laugh. But when those things happen,

1038
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:29,360
sometimes that is the momentum that you don't want to

1039
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,039
get going, and that I sometimes will say, thank you

1040
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:38,280
source for making me stop and go right now. It's

1041
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,199
just a spilled coffee, And then something else which leads

1042
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,360
me to this. And I don't know if you believe

1043
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,320
this or not, David, but everything that happens to you

1044
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,960
is your fault.

1045
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:54,119
Speaker 2: It was your choice.

1046
00:54:54,519 --> 00:54:58,599
Speaker 1: So and as as ridiculous.

1047
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to it doesn't have necessarily have to

1048
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,360
be your fault, but you chose the actions for it.

1049
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,880
You know what I'm saying. Somebody might do something to you,

1050
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,719
but how you got to look at it? Is they're

1051
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,239
not literally doing something to you, they're doing something for you.

1052
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,000
They're trying to show you something so you can get it.

1053
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:17,480
There's different ways to do it. I kind of think that,

1054
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,480
you know, if if your mom walked up, if you

1055
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:23,159
walked up to your kid the other day and just

1056
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,320
kind of just smacked him for the heck of it,

1057
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:28,840
you know, and he looked at you. It's not him

1058
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,880
who told you to do it, No, it's you who

1059
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,480
did it. Yes, yes, but his reaction is what he's

1060
00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:37,400
going to learn from. So he made he might have

1061
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:39,639
And if he knew that you are somebody who did

1062
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,519
that all the time, and he decided to go in

1063
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:44,360
that way, then yeah, it is your choice. That's something

1064
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,159
we do here. We might be told, hey, when you're

1065
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:49,320
in your twenties, you're gonna get really addicted to this

1066
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,159
certain kind of drug and it's going to be tough

1067
00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:55,000
for you. You may or may not try to do

1068
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:57,679
something bad to yourself and end up back here. So

1069
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,000
we're just giving you the heads up, but that that's

1070
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:04,079
what you're trying to get through, Okay, So your soul

1071
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:06,280
might recognize that, Like if you get into a part

1072
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,000
where you got really addicted to drugs for like five years,

1073
00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:12,280
ten years, and you lived through it. I can tell

1074
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,400
you you chose that. Okay, nobody put you. You did it.

1075
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

1076
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to prove something to yourself. Is why if

1077
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,360
you didn't do it? Then you go back and you're like, whoops,

1078
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,000
you know, let's try this again.

1079
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: Do we make things harder than they need to be? Overthinking?

1080
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,360
Overthinking over that, So like going back to again, I'm sorry,

1081
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:38,320
the cat and the coffee on the iPad, that to

1082
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,519
me could go one of two ways, the way you

1083
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:44,639
went or the goddamn it. And then you're and it

1084
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,280
seems like after that you get a series of that stuff,

1085
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,599
sometimes to the point where you end up in a

1086
00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:51,320
car accident.

1087
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: No, that's very true. I mean the momentum from your thoughts, Yeah,

1088
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,320
some of that. But people don't like when you hear

1089
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,599
when people talk about like the law of attraction and everything.

1090
00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:03,880
Just as I know and everybody, some people know this,

1091
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:07,760
you're not literally attracting something towards you. Everything that you've

1092
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,480
ever wanted, that you can think of in your head

1093
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:12,559
is already there. It's already been constructed, it's already there.

1094
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,840
You just got to match up with a vibration to

1095
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,320
get there. And like you said, it goes by the

1096
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,920
way of you know, if there's a car accident in

1097
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:22,199
the in the in the distance, and in that morning

1098
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,039
that coffee got dropped off all over and you are

1099
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:28,960
all over the place getting mad, You're probably most likely

1100
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,280
going to end up in that car accident, which is

1101
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,039
going to lead me to how psychics work. So you're

1102
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:36,639
going to into that car accident. Now, if there's a

1103
00:57:36,679 --> 00:57:39,880
car accident there and that person did what I did,

1104
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:43,119
and they and I just have a good day. Anyway,

1105
00:57:43,239 --> 00:57:45,519
I'm most likely going to notice that car accident and

1106
00:57:45,559 --> 00:57:48,480
avoid it and not be in it. It'll probably be

1107
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:49,960
there and I'll see it, but I don't have to

1108
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,239
be involved in it because of the choices that I

1109
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,239
made and how I was. Unless possibly that car accident

1110
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,000
was there to teach you something. But that's the psychics.

1111
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:03,000
That's how real psychics. I think we work like that.

1112
00:58:03,079 --> 00:58:07,599
When somebody asked me a question, it's predictions are weird.

1113
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:11,119
Not every prediction comes true, right, Okay, you got to

1114
00:58:11,159 --> 00:58:13,519
believe in the prediction. That's one. You got to really

1115
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:16,440
believe in it. Two, I read from the energy where

1116
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,480
they are now. So when somebody asked me that question,

1117
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:20,920
right when I'm sitting here, I can feel that energy

1118
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,679
where they are now, and from the question, I'll just

1119
00:58:23,719 --> 00:58:26,239
start traveling down that energy. I'm like, oh, dude, yeah,

1120
00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:28,159
it's totally if you stay right, if you stay in

1121
00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:30,480
this mindset, you are totally going to get that. That's

1122
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:33,760
just going to happen for you. But I have people,

1123
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,519
you know, ask me, I don't know if I should

1124
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,039
be with Bobby or not, because Bobby hasn't called me

1125
00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:40,760
in two days, do you think we're going to be together?

1126
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,159
I can look at them right there and there, and no,

1127
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,159
you're not. And the reason you're not is because because

1128
00:58:46,159 --> 00:58:48,679
you keep because you already know. You already know, or

1129
00:58:48,719 --> 00:58:51,039
you would not have asked the question. Thence you know

1130
00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:53,159
that energy's out there, so you might as well just

1131
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:55,400
cut the cord now and go get yourself somebody. That's cool,

1132
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,920
because you're here with an idiot, you know. That's how.

1133
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:03,199
Although there are times where my skuides have jumped in

1134
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:05,519
and said, listen, the way she's going right now, the

1135
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:09,400
dude's gonna dump her because she's really being hard for

1136
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:12,039
him to handle. Let her know that all she has

1137
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:14,079
to do is just enjoy the relationship. Just be in

1138
00:59:14,119 --> 00:59:16,639
that relationship. Don't worry about what he's doing. He's most

1139
00:59:16,719 --> 00:59:19,360
likely not cheating. You're all good. If you do that,

1140
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:20,480
that relationship goes on.

1141
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, right, so, and that would be sort of

1142
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,320
what I'm talking about, where you change your vibration and that. Yeah,

1143
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:32,360
you're like a teacher in a way.

1144
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Everybody, everybody, everybody's other teacher.

1145
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean you're you're kind of giving us

1146
00:59:39,679 --> 00:59:42,920
guidance on how to live. People can go to uh

1147
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,800
whisper whisper to me dot com.

1148
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,119
Speaker 2: Correct, it's uh, they whispered, they whispered me.

1149
00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry my class. I have classes for distance and

1150
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:53,239
they don't.

1151
00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:56,639
Speaker 2: Also, if anybody wants to, I make I'm on TikTok

1152
00:59:56,639 --> 00:59:59,719
and I think I think like ninety six points something

1153
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,199
that some followers now, But I make videos on people's questions.

1154
01:00:03,239 --> 01:00:05,079
So if they ask a question about the afterlife or

1155
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:06,679
ask this and that, I make a video about it.

1156
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:10,000
That's what my whole platform has been. So and that's Medium.

1157
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: David Hansel Medium David Hansel, h a m zeo.

1158
01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a lot of impostors so make sure

1159
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,639
that there's at least ninety six. Because social media is

1160
01:00:18,639 --> 01:00:22,800
not watching our impostors. I have so many people saying, oh,

1161
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,840
you came in Did you come into my DMS and

1162
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,519
asked me for my astrology and say I hit a

1163
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:28,559
curse or something. I'm like, no, you know better than that.

1164
01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:30,760
I don't. I don't. I don't work with that crap.

1165
01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: You know.

1166
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:33,559
Speaker 2: It's like, that's not me, that's a fake. They do

1167
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:34,199
it all the time.

1168
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:39,119
Speaker 1: Can you read energy through almost what we're using now

1169
01:00:39,159 --> 01:00:40,039
as technology?

1170
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: Anybody? Anyone can? Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, because because

1171
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:48,039
we're energy. Okay, I mean people are probably gonna go

1172
01:00:48,039 --> 01:00:50,079
own and I'm gonna talk all spiritual, but no, this

1173
01:00:50,119 --> 01:00:54,039
is the absolute frickin' f in fact, you are energy.

1174
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:57,679
Everything is energy. This pencil is energy. It's actually it

1175
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,519
should be. We should be able to go through this

1176
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:02,119
and five D or my finger would go through this

1177
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:04,239
because the molecules would split and it would go through.

1178
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,599
But my brain cannot handle the fact that I can

1179
01:01:06,639 --> 01:01:10,280
do that. That's why I can't. So that's why that happens.

1180
01:01:10,639 --> 01:01:14,280
As far as readings or anything, Your energy and my

1181
01:01:14,519 --> 01:01:17,280
energy when I start reading something it's right there. It

1182
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,440
doesn't matter where you are in the world. It's well

1183
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,440
either on the phone or either on you know, the

1184
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:27,280
zoom or on you know whatever. People can ask me

1185
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,360
a question. I do angel readings, which is really fun.

1186
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:32,199
I talk to angels all the time. I've loved them

1187
01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:35,119
since I was a kid, and I had an angel

1188
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:37,199
asked me one time. He's like, do these kind of readings.

1189
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,440
It's weird how it went, but anyway, I do these

1190
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,719
one question angel readings are eleven dollars and eleven cents.

1191
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:43,920
I know a funny number, right.

1192
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: There's a great number.

1193
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it came across. It came across because I needed

1194
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,239
some extra cash one day and they said do this

1195
01:01:50,519 --> 01:01:52,039
and I'm like, I don't know how to channel you.

1196
01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:53,639
They're like, yeah, you do, you do it every day,

1197
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,440
Just do it. I put the ad out there and

1198
01:01:57,119 --> 01:01:59,280
I people would ask a question, and I would look

1199
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,519
at the question and I go to my meditative state

1200
01:02:01,559 --> 01:02:05,199
and then I can hear them. So like angels, they

1201
01:02:05,199 --> 01:02:08,159
replace my thoughts. That's what it feels like. They replace

1202
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:10,599
my thoughts. It's theirs. So that's what I'm speaking from.

1203
01:02:10,639 --> 01:02:13,760
I just start typing and I noticed I'm really poetic,

1204
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:17,239
and then it's like, no, I'm not, that's them, I'm

1205
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,960
just writing their works. People would come back going, how

1206
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,840
did you know? How'd you know? And then I started saying,

1207
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,639
do they need to ask a question? They said, no,

1208
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,239
that we know what they need. So people just say

1209
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:30,599
whatever I need to hear, and then they would go

1210
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:33,199
off and tell them to them people. All these years,

1211
01:02:33,239 --> 01:02:34,679
I've left it up there, and I've left it at

1212
01:02:34,679 --> 01:02:36,719
the same price because the time that I needed it,

1213
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:39,679
I think within like a day or two, I had

1214
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:43,480
made like three hundred something dollars for this little trip

1215
01:02:43,519 --> 01:02:45,199
I was going to do, and that's all I wanted.

1216
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,719
I wanted something. I said, Hey, I'm going on this trip.

1217
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:50,920
I could use a little extra cash, and I know

1218
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,599
you can give it to me. And then that's how

1219
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:54,599
it started coming in. They're like, well, do this, do this,

1220
01:02:54,639 --> 01:02:58,079
do that, do this? Okay, so you do? You got

1221
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:01,320
people have to follow their own intuition. Half the time,

1222
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,519
there is a being, you, a guide, your higher self, God,

1223
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:07,119
and there's somebody directing you in a positive way. And

1224
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:09,800
if you listen to it and follow that, like you

1225
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,519
were saying earlier, that one positive little thing even if

1226
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:16,840
it's only this much more positive than something. Yes, follow it,

1227
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:17,599
follow it?

1228
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:23,239
Speaker 1: Yes, So how do we how do we hear? I

1229
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:27,199
meditate sometimes that I've started asking a question what do

1230
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:31,800
I need to know today? And I really listen and

1231
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,039
it's calming. But I don't know that I ever get

1232
01:03:34,039 --> 01:03:36,960
an answer. But I don't have bad days. I can

1233
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:37,960
say that, well.

1234
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: You know what the answers A lot of people see,

1235
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,280
like for me, I don't have if I ask that

1236
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,199
question about myself what do I need to know today?

1237
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,719
It doesn't always come in in language because a lot

1238
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,480
of people think, like like if you ever hear of

1239
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,920
a psychic or a medium saying they're clear audience, which

1240
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,119
means clear hearing, which means you can hear the voice.

1241
01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:59,800
But it doesn't always mean voice. Because I have many

1242
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,159
spirits and I talked to I can kind of hear

1243
01:04:02,199 --> 01:04:03,760
the words here and there. It's kind of like they're

1244
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,360
in the distance. Or they'll come in like an extremely

1245
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,400
loud thought. You're like, that's not me, and that's them

1246
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,119
that comes in like that. Or I'll hear water, or

1247
01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:14,519
I'll hear places. I remember one time I was on

1248
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:16,840
my way to do I do TikTok Lives all the time,

1249
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,119
and I just do free readings or TikTok Lives, you know,

1250
01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:21,800
for like half hour. So just psychic readings real quick

1251
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,280
because I love doing it and it's exercising the muscle always.

1252
01:04:26,039 --> 01:04:29,519
And on the way there, I was just driving and

1253
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,000
through the mountains over here, so it's like this mountain

1254
01:04:32,039 --> 01:04:34,639
road and I se and quiet, I don't buy this

1255
01:04:34,719 --> 01:04:38,880
one spot, and I heard a motorcycle like outside my ear,

1256
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,000
like it was in my car. I heard this motorcycle.

1257
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:42,719
I'm like, who is that? And I just went to

1258
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,440
Red Readings. The next day I came by, heard that

1259
01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:47,880
motorcycle again, and I pulled over the car. I'm like,

1260
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,360
is there like a track around here? But I'm in

1261
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:54,320
the mountains, I'm in the forest. So third day I

1262
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,639
went back, I got on TikTok Live and I never

1263
01:04:56,719 --> 01:04:58,960
do this, and I said, you guys, I don't ever

1264
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:01,000
just put out information and I don't want anyone to

1265
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:03,400
make it fit. I said, there's a dude that loved

1266
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,239
motorcycles who died that long ago. He's like, it is

1267
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,039
twenty five or thirty years old. Does anybody know who

1268
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:12,679
that is? And yes, his sister was on that day,

1269
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:16,760
so that's who it was. So yeah, so that's weird,

1270
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,480
and it doesn't I don't. I mean, I think the

1271
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:22,039
most fun is when you're not asking for it. I mean,

1272
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:24,960
when it just happens. It's so beautiful. And I'm not

1273
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,400
the only one. I tell people, Listen, you can do

1274
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,280
this too, if you have loved ones who left. I'm

1275
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,440
happy when you contact me, and I'd be more than

1276
01:05:32,519 --> 01:05:34,440
hell happy to help you all I can. But in

1277
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,800
the meantime, sit with a picture in a chair and

1278
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,039
look at them and get rid of all those crappy,

1279
01:05:40,159 --> 01:05:43,760
sad feelings. Oh yeah, cancer, she suffered so much. Trust me,

1280
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,280
she ain't suffered her Now she's good. She was happy.

1281
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,239
She doesn't even remember that. It's like, no, I know

1282
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,679
what I went through. I don't remember it. Just look

1283
01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:55,639
at them and start smiling and just talk. Just have

1284
01:05:55,719 --> 01:05:58,480
a conversation, and then put that picture down and go

1285
01:05:58,519 --> 01:06:01,360
about your day. You will that you're gonna probably feel

1286
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,960
that tingle all day long, and you're gonna have more

1287
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,800
stuff come in for you. You'll get signs that day probably,

1288
01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:10,239
you know, you'll get all kinds of things because it's

1289
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:13,440
they have to lure their vibration to get here. We're

1290
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,039
gonna raise ours and we meet in the middle. That's

1291
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:18,840
just what a medium does. Okay. I used to tell

1292
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,440
that's why I'm so naughty when I do reading readings.

1293
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,679
I mean, if I have some the other side, I

1294
01:06:23,719 --> 01:06:25,559
was tell people, I don't filter what they say. If

1295
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:28,039
that's cool, because if they swear, I'm swearing. Yeah, that's

1296
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:31,920
just how I'm going to go. And yeah, it's people

1297
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,880
can do it. You can sit there, you can have that.

1298
01:06:34,039 --> 01:06:36,519
My brother, my dog, and my brother. If I went

1299
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:40,719
back to that in my in my near death experience,

1300
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,239
two things that I saw was my dog getting killed,

1301
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,639
my little dog named Toto got killed by the other

1302
01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:50,639
two big dogs, and that my brother he was gonna

1303
01:06:50,679 --> 01:06:53,480
die and he's coming here, but they needed me to

1304
01:06:53,519 --> 01:06:56,480
go back, and I was like, yeah, whatever. Well I

1305
01:06:56,519 --> 01:06:58,800
woke up remembering that, you know, And a couple of

1306
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,960
months went by and I remember that, but I was

1307
01:07:01,119 --> 01:07:03,440
slushing it all off too. The first couple of months,

1308
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,400
I was like, I know, I was someplace else. No

1309
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,400
one's going to listen to me, no one's believing me,

1310
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,760
so I'm just going to keep it to myself. And

1311
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,039
then it was like six months later Arlow Doc Toto

1312
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,400
ran outside when the big dogs are out there, and

1313
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,920
they tore apart and in front of me. We tried

1314
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:23,280
to save her and Gona. She got killed and I

1315
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,320
was very sad, but she gave me a wonderful gift.

1316
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,000
She came back and showed me herself the next day

1317
01:07:28,239 --> 01:07:31,679
and that dog literally, this is just you guys who

1318
01:07:31,719 --> 01:07:34,280
have pets. I would not have believed it, but I

1319
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,679
was so sad. But in the morning I felt okay

1320
01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:38,559
because I had a dream about her. And the dream

1321
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,679
was I was in her place, running around my parents' backyard,

1322
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,599
and she took me to three spaces. One was the

1323
01:07:45,639 --> 01:07:47,360
barn and there was a ball back in the bar.

1324
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,880
In this old barn. There was another like stick behind

1325
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,480
a tree, and there was this little piece of rope buried.

1326
01:07:53,559 --> 01:07:57,320
It was under this rubbish. And I went outside in

1327
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,519
the morning and I thought, oh, what the hell, let's check.

1328
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,599
I walked into the the barn. There was the ball,

1329
01:08:04,199 --> 01:08:06,280
and then I walked behind that bush. There's a stick.

1330
01:08:06,679 --> 01:08:08,719
I dug up that little thing. I'm like, holy cow,

1331
01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:11,440
that was her. She gave me the gift of putting

1332
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:12,920
me in her space. To let me know this is

1333
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:18,039
how she felt running through that backyard. And then I

1334
01:08:18,119 --> 01:08:20,520
was still sad that I knew that, and then it

1335
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,640
hit me, I hope they're not. This is just a coincidence.

1336
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,680
But on Thanksgiving my brother got sick and then he

1337
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,199
was diagnosed with a brain tumor and stage four lung

1338
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:34,840
cancer and they gave him six months and he died

1339
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:40,479
four months later. So I was very upset. This is

1340
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,439
like one of like when people call it the dark

1341
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,560
Knight of the Soul. I was so upset, and even

1342
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,520
as funeral, I was screaming at God. I was already there.

1343
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,439
You should have just let me stay so he could

1344
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,199
stay here. I was okay, my life sucked anyway. I

1345
01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:57,399
wanted to go, you know, I was done, and that's

1346
01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:58,920
not how it was. And I was mad and I

1347
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,680
told him, we're not supposed to know who when people die,

1348
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,239
because we don't, you know, we're not supposed to know

1349
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:06,319
when people die and all these other things. Why did

1350
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:09,640
you do that? And it came back they said, because

1351
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,199
you wouldn't have believed where you were. So that's how

1352
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,640
that's why the information was given to me. It was

1353
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:17,560
going to happen anyway.

1354
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you do you think that we have a

1355
01:09:20,159 --> 01:09:21,760
predetermined exit date?

1356
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 2: You know, that's a tough one. A lot of people said,

1357
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,560
I have asked my guys. Yes, yeah, my guides are

1358
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,079
weird about it, but they said, yeah, you do have

1359
01:09:32,119 --> 01:09:36,000
a predestined You have a predestined, but there is your

1360
01:09:36,039 --> 01:09:39,119
soul knows and it can change too. Some people plan

1361
01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:42,560
on dying a certain way under like your contract to

1362
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,560
be Hey, I'm gonna pass away in this plane crash

1363
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,399
with two hundred and ninety other people. You know, that's

1364
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,039
what I'm going to go to. I'll be done. They

1365
01:09:51,159 --> 01:09:53,119
because you're you got to think when you're on the

1366
01:09:53,159 --> 01:09:56,680
other side, when you're making this plan, you know you're

1367
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,239
coming back there. It's a fact you are. You're not.

1368
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:03,640
Nothing's happening to you. So you go through it. But

1369
01:10:04,079 --> 01:10:06,039
a lot of people you can right you're here. I

1370
01:10:06,079 --> 01:10:08,039
guess you can change it yourself. You can just say, well,

1371
01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:09,239
I don't want to die in that. I want to

1372
01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:11,359
die peacefully in my sleep, and then maybe you will

1373
01:10:11,399 --> 01:10:14,920
you most likely, Yeah, we do pit choose pretty much

1374
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,079
the way we do go that goes from accidents, horrific accidents,

1375
01:10:19,119 --> 01:10:24,079
all kinds of weird stuff. There's also I think times

1376
01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:26,520
when it can happen, and that's what I think when

1377
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,159
we're talking about exit points. You do have that one

1378
01:10:29,359 --> 01:10:31,920
no matter what. This is the last one. This is

1379
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,079
where you're coming back because you said you only wanted

1380
01:10:34,079 --> 01:10:36,720
to be here that long and that's it. But there

1381
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:41,079
are times in between where something could happen. And I

1382
01:10:41,119 --> 01:10:43,439
think that's where you get when people talk about and

1383
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,000
that's my guides you are explaining, like when angels save

1384
01:10:46,079 --> 01:10:49,000
people here, or you'll get these phenomenal things like where

1385
01:10:49,079 --> 01:10:51,359
did that person go? Or somebody lifted up that car

1386
01:10:51,359 --> 01:10:53,319
off that kids left, We didn't know where they went.

1387
01:10:54,119 --> 01:10:56,840
They are pretty much the only ones who can change

1388
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,640
your destiny, and they're not changing your destiny. What they're

1389
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,199
saying is he'd be better off. This is going to

1390
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:04,880
be better off if this person does not die now,

1391
01:11:05,039 --> 01:11:07,119
because they're exit points like thirty years from now and

1392
01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:09,039
they started going to have this kid and all this stuff,

1393
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,359
so they most likely will talk to your soul. Your

1394
01:11:13,359 --> 01:11:15,800
soul goes, yeah, it's how cool. I'll stay and then

1395
01:11:16,119 --> 01:11:19,319
things will happen to make it better, you know, but

1396
01:11:20,119 --> 01:11:22,520
so bizarre it is.

1397
01:11:22,359 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 1: At the risk it is bizarre because you know, like

1398
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,640
you said with the you could really go through this

1399
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,319
if we were a fifth dimension, but we're more three dimensions,

1400
01:11:34,319 --> 01:11:34,720
and so.

1401
01:11:35,159 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: We have we're going we're going into fifth dimension consciousness.

1402
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,920
I mean, the whole UFO thing. And if people won't

1403
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,239
know about that, and this is probably another show I saw.

1404
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,119
I when I was six years old in North Carolina

1405
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:48,319
where I am. Now we should drive up here. I

1406
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,079
had my encounter with an alien actual in front of me.

1407
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:53,880
There you are. I didn't go up to a ship.

1408
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,479
There they were. They said hello, and they came back

1409
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,640
in dreams. That same one came back as dream after

1410
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:05,479
my nde And so they've been around that. I was

1411
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,439
known from a child that always knew they were here.

1412
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,640
So can I that news for me? It's like, yeah,

1413
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,479
they're here. Of course they're in the ocean. Well you

1414
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,439
have dog, where did you think they were? Well, they're

1415
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,119
in the sky, ocean, everywhere.

1416
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,279
Speaker 1: All right, So let me ask this and I would

1417
01:12:18,319 --> 01:12:22,319
like to have you back to explore this more. But

1418
01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:27,239
there are those that say were of the stars, you are,

1419
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,600
that that aliens came here, and that there's alien DNA

1420
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,560
or dormant DNA in us. And that's what the what

1421
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,640
we call the divine intervention, right because I think depending

1422
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,000
on who you read or who you believe, scientists will

1423
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:45,319
say our closest DNA match some say ninety eight percent,

1424
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,119
some say that's way too high is to a chimpanzee.

1425
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, well here look at those. There's a visual. So

1426
01:12:51,279 --> 01:12:53,319
here's a little bag I have. Okay, this a little

1427
01:12:53,319 --> 01:12:56,560
bag represents a human being or something like that. Now,

1428
01:12:57,079 --> 01:12:59,239
it's it just looks like this, and how it got

1429
01:12:59,279 --> 01:13:01,399
that way as some he sewed something together and put

1430
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,880
something together. That's where you're talking about the alien DNA.

1431
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,920
So alien DNA's maybe got together, did something with ahminid

1432
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,359
here or something and they made this brand new looking

1433
01:13:09,399 --> 01:13:12,920
species like that. Well, you're a soul. So if you

1434
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,520
decide you're going to come to Earth and live as

1435
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,439
a human being, you're going to use that bag. Yeah,

1436
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,079
that's where that DNA came from. Once you leave here,

1437
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,079
you're you again. You're over here again. You can be

1438
01:13:23,119 --> 01:13:25,119
in anything. You can go to another planet. You can

1439
01:13:25,159 --> 01:13:27,760
be an alien in that planet. You can maybe there's

1440
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,079
a planet that you are maybe on all all the

1441
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:32,600
all the time, and you just took a break to

1442
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,119
come here on earth. Who knows, But yeah, I'm a

1443
01:13:36,119 --> 01:13:40,079
strong believer in that as well. I'm sorry people, the

1444
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:43,279
Adam and Eve thing as as you interpret it in

1445
01:13:43,319 --> 01:13:48,319
that book is not true. But I believe I believe

1446
01:13:48,319 --> 01:13:50,039
in the seeded theory. If that makes sense.

1447
01:13:50,119 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, that does make sense. That makes sense. May

1448
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,840
I be selfish and just ask angel wise? Can you

1449
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,840
kind of for me tap in or what you need?

1450
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: You got to ask the question and then, well I

1451
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,960
have angels, guys, anything. But if you're just wanting to

1452
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,520
ask a question, I can. I can see what the

1453
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:07,279
answer I can get.

1454
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't even know what

1455
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,159
a question i'd ask.

1456
01:14:13,119 --> 01:14:16,199
Speaker 2: Uh, if you just want to know, if you just

1457
01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:17,279
want to know what's going on?

1458
01:14:18,319 --> 01:14:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's going I mean? What am I on the

1459
01:14:20,399 --> 01:14:20,920
right path?

1460
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 6: You're so funny that you just asked that. They just

1461
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:29,359
threw that out at me, choosing the path? Yeah, yeah,

1462
01:14:29,399 --> 01:14:31,600
that literally fell out. I just grabbed this card for

1463
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,760
a minute to see if there's choosing your path?

1464
01:14:35,239 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 2: Let me see, give me ten seconds. Okay, I'm not

1465
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,880
going to use cards because it's easier to go direct.

1466
01:14:41,119 --> 01:14:42,680
I talk on loud too, if you hear me, say

1467
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,199
yes or whatever to them and just acknowledge.

1468
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:57,560
Speaker 7: Them, thank you, Yeah you are. You're obviously exactly where

1469
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,319
you're supposed to be.

1470
01:14:58,399 --> 01:15:01,159
Speaker 2: The advice that's coming through, the advice them aren't less

1471
01:15:01,159 --> 01:15:03,640
coming through is that you kind of stid to tick

1472
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,039
a little stick to home right now, and they kind

1473
01:15:06,039 --> 01:15:07,520
of want to move you out of there. So I

1474
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,239
want to put you someplace. I don't know, it's so

1475
01:15:09,359 --> 01:15:11,359
silly to say it, like a vacation, but I really

1476
01:15:11,359 --> 01:15:13,760
need you to go someplace else, just for a little bit.

1477
01:15:14,279 --> 01:15:17,479
It's going to give you a new perspective on the

1478
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,520
things that you're thinking about doing next. So the things

1479
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,239
that you're thinking about doing next are actually going to

1480
01:15:22,279 --> 01:15:24,359
come a little differently than what you're thinking, but in

1481
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:33,600
better way, better, better better. What is he buying? What

1482
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:34,319
are you buying?

1483
01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:38,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to like to buy that case.

1484
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,279
I'd love to buy a house or something.

1485
01:15:41,279 --> 01:15:44,359
Speaker 2: But that's that's just what's going in your head. Okay,

1486
01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:47,079
hold on a minute. That's just a depinion. It's in

1487
01:15:47,159 --> 01:15:49,760
your energy. So it's like I need something, I want something,

1488
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,560
and it translates to me as buying something, So it's

1489
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:53,479
the house that you want.

1490
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 1: Well, it's something because I have my fourteen year old

1491
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,640
son living with me now, he hadn't been for four years,

1492
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:04,079
and just some just some things to getting out of

1493
01:16:04,119 --> 01:16:06,680
a lease was too complicated. So we're in a smaller

1494
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:07,640
space than I want to be.

1495
01:16:08,079 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 2: So it's not too complicated some stuff. I'm not reprimanding you,

1496
01:16:13,039 --> 01:16:15,399
but I'm going to reprimand you. No you're not. You

1497
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,039
want it. All you got to do is take the

1498
01:16:17,079 --> 01:16:19,039
action towards it. So all you got to do is

1499
01:16:19,079 --> 01:16:21,119
think about it. You already have to just say, oh, yeah,

1500
01:16:21,159 --> 01:16:22,680
I can't wait to get my new house. My new

1501
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,760
house is so cool. And then you just need to

1502
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,399
just start looking up stuff. You'll be surprised and how

1503
01:16:27,399 --> 01:16:29,880
things will fall in place to change everything so you

1504
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,600
can leave that place. It'll just automatically work out. You

1505
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,079
don't have to. People always they always take something in

1506
01:16:35,119 --> 01:16:37,119
the physical and say this is in my way. No

1507
01:16:37,239 --> 01:16:39,880
it's not, it's not. It's not in your way because

1508
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,760
you're because you're not physical, you can go right over it.

1509
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,840
And that's and they're telling me. But they keep telling me.

1510
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,119
They do tell me that you maybe you and your son,

1511
01:16:47,239 --> 01:16:49,399
somebody you need to go someplace just for a little bit.

1512
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,680
You need to expand that because I feel like there's

1513
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,359
something you're missing that you didn't do. That's that's the

1514
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,880
thing I'm missing. It would be good for you to

1515
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:01,720
get like a different focus on something, so like go

1516
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,399
someplace you would never go before. You know what I'm saying, Yeah,

1517
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,600
and just do that. And that's just it's just for

1518
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,199
a new perspective as all, because you keep focusing on

1519
01:17:11,279 --> 01:17:13,760
the same stuff here and that's probably why you're focusing

1520
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,239
on I can't get that because of this. No, that's

1521
01:17:16,279 --> 01:17:20,000
not true. And you'll know that once you jump out

1522
01:17:20,039 --> 01:17:21,960
of this. It's just this little box here and you're

1523
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,039
doing really, really well, but you still got that little

1524
01:17:24,039 --> 01:17:26,760
box up that still you still don't trust some of

1525
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,159
the decisions. You still just going, oh, no, one, you

1526
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:31,239
can't have that. Yeah, they're like, if you can, why

1527
01:17:31,239 --> 01:17:33,319
are you saying that? Yeah, that's what they're going over

1528
01:17:33,359 --> 01:17:35,119
in your head. So they're just giving you it's pretty

1529
01:17:35,159 --> 01:17:37,079
much a pep talk, but they're telling you you want

1530
01:17:37,119 --> 01:17:39,560
these things. Fine, you just have to say, yeah, they're

1531
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,079
already here. We told you earlier through David that they

1532
01:17:42,119 --> 01:17:45,159
were already here. You don't have to attract them. They're here.

1533
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,520
You just have to line up with the frequency. You

1534
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,319
do that. Your your frequency is your feeling. Your feelings

1535
01:17:50,319 --> 01:17:53,840
are your frequency. So ask yourself, how would you feel

1536
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:54,800
in that brand new house?

1537
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:56,039
Speaker 1: Amazing?

1538
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:57,239
Speaker 2: Okay?

1539
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: Then okay, right free?

1540
01:18:01,119 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then here's a better way. You want to

1541
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,760
up that even more. The universe loves gratitude. That's just

1542
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,760
how I put it. So when you go home tonight

1543
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,119
from now on, walk in that house and go, I

1544
01:18:12,159 --> 01:18:14,560
can't wait for my big house. It is so cool,

1545
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,359
and this is what it looks like. And as you

1546
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,159
walking through your house, go, I am so thankful for

1547
01:18:19,239 --> 01:18:21,880
what I have. I am thankful for this window overlooking

1548
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,399
because my new house overlooks something even bigger than this.

1549
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,760
And you just want to be grateful for that house

1550
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,680
you're in. Once you make peace with the house, I

1551
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,760
have to say, because the house has energy too. You

1552
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,000
make peace with the house, things will start just going

1553
01:18:34,079 --> 01:18:35,920
for you and you'll get them. You can get there

1554
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,640
a lot faster. I have a house and I have

1555
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,600
no money. I don't know how that happened. I have money,

1556
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,680
but literally I live in a house. I was just

1557
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,039
saying last year. I will never ever ever own a house.

1558
01:18:48,079 --> 01:18:50,199
I don't have the money. I don't make enough money.

1559
01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:52,319
And I worked at a regular job during the day

1560
01:18:52,359 --> 01:18:54,319
and I did readings at night, and I saved up

1561
01:18:54,359 --> 01:18:58,399
this money. I got hurt at work. I asked for it.

1562
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:03,199
That's another thing that was manifested. I manifested surgery on accident.

1563
01:19:04,319 --> 01:19:06,880
But I slipped and fell for a place I worked for,

1564
01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:09,800
and it was I worked in the deli. I'm a vegetarian,

1565
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,199
but I did it for like seven years, and I

1566
01:19:13,239 --> 01:19:15,720
wanted I just said one. It was on a Tuesday night.

1567
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,880
I said, there was Monday night. It was Monday night,

1568
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,319
and I said, okay, you guys, I need out of

1569
01:19:21,359 --> 01:19:23,199
this place. It's killing me now. I can't do this.

1570
01:19:23,279 --> 01:19:25,479
What are you guys doing. I'm like I told you,

1571
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,039
I went out. I'm out of this place. I'm out

1572
01:19:28,039 --> 01:19:29,960
of this place. And I said to my angels, I'm

1573
01:19:30,039 --> 01:19:31,800
giving you permission to go ahead and get me out

1574
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,560
of this. Take full control. I'm good. You have to

1575
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,720
get you can get permission. Like that Tuesday night, after clothes,

1576
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,159
the kids put down this wet stuff all over the floor,

1577
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,520
no signs up. I came out of the bathroom. Foots

1578
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,720
went up from under me. I slammed right under the camera.

1579
01:19:48,079 --> 01:19:50,319
I flew up in the air, went down and smashed

1580
01:19:50,359 --> 01:19:53,520
my elbow, which had these fingers. Were stuck like this

1581
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,239
for two years, and I had to have surgery, cubito, carpol,

1582
01:19:56,319 --> 01:19:59,880
whatever surgery, you get it. So I had to settle.

1583
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,600
I hated that job. I hated the place I worked for.

1584
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,000
I can't say who they are, well, actually I can now,

1585
01:20:05,039 --> 01:20:08,119
but the big grocery store in Florida, the only grocery

1586
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:12,039
store in Florida, but they were terrible. They were awful

1587
01:20:12,119 --> 01:20:14,760
to me. The manager got fired afterwards, but I ended

1588
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,159
up getting some money out of that. I also had

1589
01:20:18,199 --> 01:20:22,319
stocks I didn't even know about. I stayed home. I

1590
01:20:22,319 --> 01:20:24,640
couldn't find another job. I didn't know what was going on.

1591
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,560
And then I couldn't stay in my apartment. I had

1592
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,159
leaks in it. I rented the house. The ceiling was leaking.

1593
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,000
It was gross. I hated it. I was paying too

1594
01:20:33,039 --> 01:20:35,039
much money for it, and I'm like, I just want

1595
01:20:35,039 --> 01:20:37,039
a house. I'll never have a house. But then one

1596
01:20:37,079 --> 01:20:39,319
day I said, you know what, maybe I can have

1597
01:20:39,359 --> 01:20:41,199
a house. Let me start looking at him, and as

1598
01:20:41,239 --> 01:20:43,279
I looked at him. I started to get more confident.

1599
01:20:43,319 --> 01:20:45,600
I'm like, maybe I can swing this, even though, because

1600
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,760
I make enough money just doing readings. Next thing, I know,

1601
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,880
everything worked out and I actually not only did I

1602
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,000
get the house, I had it in the exact area

1603
01:20:53,039 --> 01:20:56,680
that I wanted it too. And I've got in at

1604
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,119
the view. My trees got blown down from the storm,

1605
01:20:59,159 --> 01:21:02,199
but I've got I'm surrounded by woods, is reel pretty

1606
01:21:02,279 --> 01:21:08,319
and I and now I own this thing. You know, yeah, everything,

1607
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,000
if you look at this, everything that you've ever thought

1608
01:21:11,039 --> 01:21:17,399
about as a child has pretty much happened. I dreamed

1609
01:21:17,399 --> 01:21:19,199
about being a rock star, and I was a little kid.

1610
01:21:19,359 --> 01:21:22,199
I came a musician. I traveled all over and then

1611
01:21:22,399 --> 01:21:23,880
I got it into my head that I wanted to

1612
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,079
be a writer and a comedian, and then I started

1613
01:21:26,079 --> 01:21:27,880
doing theater. Next thing I know it, I'm off to

1614
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,840
Second City at school and I'm traveling around North Carolina.

1615
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,239
Now you know, I was here as a comedian. And

1616
01:21:34,279 --> 01:21:37,039
so everything you think about, when you put it out there,

1617
01:21:37,239 --> 01:21:39,159
let the universe bring it to you. You don't even

1618
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:40,359
have to figure out how you're.

1619
01:21:40,199 --> 01:21:44,159
Speaker 1: Going to do it. It's right. The how I feel like,

1620
01:21:44,199 --> 01:21:46,079
the how is none of your business.

1621
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 2: It really is none of your business. It'll tell you

1622
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,039
what to do. You just got to do.

1623
01:21:50,279 --> 01:21:53,520
Speaker 1: Well, and not to keep you too long you're speaking. So,

1624
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,359
but I was on the radio for thirty years. I

1625
01:21:56,359 --> 01:21:58,640
wanted to be on the radio since I was a kid.

1626
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,720
I was on the radio while in college. I finished up.

1627
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,920
I loved it, and then I wanted to do talk

1628
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,600
and I did talk, and I wanted to do a

1629
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,880
big morning show and I did that, and I wanted to,

1630
01:22:09,279 --> 01:22:12,880
you know, do all these things, and I wanted to own.

1631
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,039
I wanted to own my own thing. And something didn't

1632
01:22:17,039 --> 01:22:19,319
work out in radio, and I left one company and

1633
01:22:19,359 --> 01:22:21,720
went to another, and you know, every everywhere I went

1634
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,880
everything was good, good, good, And then something happened and

1635
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:29,239
it all kind of came to a screeching hall and you.

1636
01:22:29,199 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 2: Wanted to did you want to own another? There's another job,

1637
01:22:33,119 --> 01:22:34,920
then another thing that you want to do. You still

1638
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:35,720
want to do that? Right?

1639
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:36,399
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1640
01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: That has to do with everything with you getting out

1641
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,279
of that house and exploring those places, because that's going

1642
01:22:41,319 --> 01:22:42,000
to bring you to it.

1643
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, this is it.

1644
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,359
Speaker 2: In the state? Is it in the state you're in now?

1645
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: It would take me I would have to travel to

1646
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:53,439
do what I wanted.

1647
01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm just selling you on your timeline.

1648
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,079
If you visit that you're good. That's how I'm telling you.

1649
01:23:01,159 --> 01:23:03,800
They're telling that's they want you to get out, travel,

1650
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,920
they want you to get out. I think you got

1651
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:07,880
to get you got to know that you're not stuck

1652
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:09,920
where you are, because it does feel like you're going

1653
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,960
to move out of state at some point pretty soon,

1654
01:23:12,359 --> 01:23:15,119
but not really soon, but it does feel like you are.

1655
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, what I I always wanted to own, like

1656
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,960
again the radio shows things. So then I started the podcast,

1657
01:23:23,159 --> 01:23:27,000
and then I've started this offshoot, Blightenment, talking to people

1658
01:23:27,079 --> 01:23:30,199
like yourself who I feel we will have a message

1659
01:23:30,279 --> 01:23:33,520
that people need to hear. And then I have another

1660
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,640
project that I want to do, but it would require

1661
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:39,000
me to reach out to people and maybe go to

1662
01:23:39,039 --> 01:23:42,039
where they are to do it, you know. And that

1663
01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:44,920
and that's and that's the thing that I I want

1664
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,479
to do. But in between there, I've been doing other

1665
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,199
things and uh, I like you you know, now my

1666
01:23:50,199 --> 01:23:53,159
fourteen year old son's living with me. Money becomes a concern,

1667
01:23:53,279 --> 01:23:55,720
so I didn't know what to do, and some things

1668
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,560
kind of dry up and you get a little wobbly,

1669
01:23:59,039 --> 01:24:03,279
and I went, I'm I substitute teaching during the day.

1670
01:24:03,319 --> 01:24:05,119
Speaker 2: That's that's just what happened.

1671
01:24:05,159 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: And I've absolutely loved it, man, I have loved it.

1672
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you never know what life's going to give

1673
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,000
you from the circumstances. But like I said, if you

1674
01:24:14,039 --> 01:24:15,840
still want to go do these things you wanted to

1675
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,680
do before, the dream is still there. That's what they

1676
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,680
were saying. You just got to travel outside of where

1677
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,000
you're going. You got to ye and then you'll get it.

1678
01:24:22,319 --> 01:24:24,279
You know, to state it doesn't mean you sell everything

1679
01:24:24,279 --> 01:24:27,199
and go travel give up, but you want to visit

1680
01:24:27,399 --> 01:24:29,720
or see these places where you think you might end

1681
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:33,079
up being. And that is it's called the law of action.

1682
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,119
Once you once you take a dream or a thought

1683
01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:39,399
and you put one you just take one foot put

1684
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,960
it towards there. The universe will move the other foot

1685
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,680
for you. You got to put that one foot there.

1686
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's very interesting. I feel like you've given

1687
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:55,000
some real steps, tangible steps that people can use to

1688
01:24:55,039 --> 01:24:55,560
live better.

1689
01:24:56,039 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm kind of all over the place, and not

1690
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,319
that everything's going to work for everybody, but it I

1691
01:25:00,319 --> 01:25:02,600
mean this is the stuff I don't tell you anything

1692
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,760
that they haven't showed me. And I've used myself. Okay,

1693
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,359
so I've yeah, I'm always doing stuff. I've I'm really

1694
01:25:10,399 --> 01:25:20,720
into hermetics nowadays. The book for the Three Initiatives, Oh, okay. Philosophy, Yeah,

1695
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,840
the philosophy, and I follow those. I work with the

1696
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,760
law of assumption, and I'd love the law of assumption.

1697
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,399
I think the law of assumption is like the law

1698
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:31,800
of attraction on steroids.

1699
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,119
Speaker 1: What is the law of assumption then, meaning that if

1700
01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:36,760
I assuming it shall be well.

1701
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's more to it. One and a lot of assumption.

1702
01:25:39,079 --> 01:25:41,079
You really got to go through your belief system that

1703
01:25:41,079 --> 01:25:43,680
that's still with you, because we probably all have belief

1704
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,000
systems that are still bad. Like I used to have

1705
01:25:46,039 --> 01:25:48,159
the belief system about money. I used to I was

1706
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,359
when I was growing up and doing all the stuff

1707
01:25:50,399 --> 01:25:52,960
I was doing. I was like, all evil people have money,

1708
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,760
bad people have money, and I would say, I don't care.

1709
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,680
I don't have enough money. But guess what, I'm still

1710
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,319
a good person. That's why I'm not going to let

1711
01:25:58,319 --> 01:26:00,000
it change me. Until my guide said to me one day,

1712
01:26:00,039 --> 01:26:02,720
I David, you know what you're not getting any more

1713
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,560
money because you keep believing that money's bad. And I said, well, yeah,

1714
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,439
evil people have you know, are bad and they get money.

1715
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,119
He said, no, just sometimes evil people have money. That's

1716
01:26:11,159 --> 01:26:13,760
all it is. Yeah, And I said, really said, yeah,

1717
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,760
there's very good people, you just don't hear about them.

1718
01:26:16,159 --> 01:26:18,720
I change that. And when I change my thinking of

1719
01:26:19,359 --> 01:26:21,600
oh okay, I'm not going to assume that money is

1720
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,000
bad anymore. I now assume that money is really good.

1721
01:26:24,039 --> 01:26:25,760
And I now assume that I can do all kinds

1722
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,359
of cool stuff with money. When I have it, I

1723
01:26:27,399 --> 01:26:29,239
know how to distribute it. And then all of a sudden,

1724
01:26:29,359 --> 01:26:32,439
money my money. Yeah, it just happening. Yeah, you just

1725
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,520
want to assume that character in the future at least,

1726
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,359
you know, you know, the holes like Abraham even talks

1727
01:26:39,359 --> 01:26:42,720
about seventeen seconds. It's true. Just kind of hold that thought.

1728
01:26:43,039 --> 01:26:45,039
Don't worry about how you're going to get there. Just

1729
01:26:45,119 --> 01:26:47,840
hold the dream and the thought. Feel like you do. Now,

1730
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,720
what does a rich person feels like? What does a

1731
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,600
person who owns a radio station feel like? How does

1732
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,079
that feel? And my last advice and that one was

1733
01:26:56,199 --> 01:26:59,680
I do this a lot, and it's fun like if

1734
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,960
there's a certain thing you want, Like say, say you

1735
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,960
want five million dollars, Okay, you got to ask yourself,

1736
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:06,840
how would I feel with five million dollars? You're like,

1737
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,640
I don't know because I don't have it right now.

1738
01:27:10,319 --> 01:27:13,199
So one thing you can do is go about think

1739
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:15,399
about that feeling, and as you go through your day,

1740
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,159
think about what during this day can give me that

1741
01:27:18,199 --> 01:27:21,239
feeling that's right here now? What can give me that feeling?

1742
01:27:21,279 --> 01:27:23,920
And search for it and you'll start finding out, Oh,

1743
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,720
the woods make me feel elated, or driving my car

1744
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:30,760
pass makes me feel this. You know, that's the replacement.

1745
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,119
Once you feel that, then you go, oh, yeah, this

1746
01:27:33,159 --> 01:27:35,000
is what the five billion would feel like. I bet,

1747
01:27:35,239 --> 01:27:36,960
and this is how it's going to go and keep

1748
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,960
that feeling and eventually you probably get it.

1749
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:44,159
Speaker 1: Where did you learn all this? Some of it just

1750
01:27:44,199 --> 01:27:46,079
came back with me, some of it came back with you.

1751
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:51,159
It's interesting because I you know, you talked about being

1752
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:53,880
a young guy and knowing that there was no hell,

1753
01:27:54,279 --> 01:27:58,199
and I do think we come in and probably the

1754
01:27:58,239 --> 01:28:02,159
creatures that are closest to where you came from are

1755
01:28:02,199 --> 01:28:04,560
the young ones, and then we munk it all up.

1756
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 2: Well, well it's it's it's okay, I understand what you mean. Yeah,

1757
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,239
our parents really screw everything up, no matter how beautiful

1758
01:28:12,319 --> 01:28:13,520
and wonderful they're trying.

1759
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: They're trying. I just think like that.

1760
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,359
Speaker 2: That there is still a belief in us.

1761
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:21,159
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the programming and it's almost the lot.

1762
01:28:21,039 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: Of assumption too. The first thing if you want to

1763
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,319
use a lot of assumption is you've got to take

1764
01:28:24,319 --> 01:28:26,880
that old adage when you assume, you make an ass

1765
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,520
out of you and me. No, that's not true. Assumption

1766
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,079
is not a bad thing. Assuming is not a bad thing.

1767
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,119
In fact, if you were to wake up in the

1768
01:28:34,119 --> 01:28:36,760
morning and you say, I assume people are gonna smile

1769
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,399
at me all day long, I just know it. I

1770
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,119
just assume it. That's just it. It's my thing. I

1771
01:28:41,239 --> 01:28:42,960
do that now, and I have people smile at me

1772
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,479
all the time, just because I assume that there's more

1773
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,560
good people in the world than bad people. I just do.

1774
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,119
I'm not there's some crappy people out there, but I

1775
01:28:50,159 --> 01:28:51,920
assume that all the nice ones are going to say

1776
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:52,239
how to me.

1777
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always thought that. I've always thought that if

1778
01:28:55,239 --> 01:28:57,640
I dropped the wallet nine times out of ten, I'm

1779
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,840
gonna get everything back with the contents in it, right.

1780
01:29:00,079 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah.

1781
01:29:01,039 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: I always think that, David, this has been a real

1782
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,640
pleasure for me, and I would love to have you

1783
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,399
back again. I find you extremely interesting and I'd love

1784
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,560
to hear more about the alien experience that you had

1785
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:15,479
and all this stuff. They whispered to me dot com

1786
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,159
do you have a book as well?

1787
01:29:18,359 --> 01:29:20,159
Speaker 2: I am writing your book, and you know, here's the

1788
01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:22,000
deal about it. I'm going to write. I've got a

1789
01:29:22,039 --> 01:29:24,920
couple I started. I was writing one about my near

1790
01:29:25,039 --> 01:29:28,319
death experience. And when I started, I realized they need

1791
01:29:28,359 --> 01:29:31,279
a point of context to see how because the book

1792
01:29:31,359 --> 01:29:33,520
is going to be for not only what I see

1793
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:37,039
after death, but to know that no matter how crappy

1794
01:29:37,079 --> 01:29:40,039
your life is, because mine was terrible compared you know,

1795
01:29:41,319 --> 01:29:42,680
but I mean I don't look at it that way.

1796
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,520
But it wasn't very good for a kid, you know.

1797
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,600
But it's okay. It worked out, you know. It all

1798
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,800
happened for a reason, and that's what I wanted to

1799
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,720
express in the book. So I keep going back and forth.

1800
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:55,359
And then I went through about a year where I

1801
01:29:55,399 --> 01:29:57,000
was talking to my guides and I'm like, I need

1802
01:29:57,039 --> 01:29:59,439
to know if this was dreamed or if this was real,

1803
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,399
because there's some stuff that happened to me and why

1804
01:30:04,399 --> 01:30:07,399
I was unconscious that I know inherently, I'm like that

1805
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,520
was drug related. That was drug related from the drugs

1806
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:13,479
that gave me. Okay, you know, because because I remember

1807
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,079
one thing it was really cool that happened, and I

1808
01:30:16,119 --> 01:30:17,920
kept getting this whole thing in my ear that was like,

1809
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,640
that's not that wasn't us, that wasn't us, that wasn't us.

1810
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:22,680
I was like, are you telling me that was drugs?

1811
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,119
And the like, Yeah, I'm like, dang it, because that

1812
01:30:25,199 --> 01:30:28,279
was cool, you know, But but the stuff that they

1813
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:33,079
was just as cool and way cooler. Yeah, it's it's

1814
01:30:34,159 --> 01:30:36,199
I forget. I get so excited when I talk about that.

1815
01:30:36,279 --> 01:30:37,600
It's such a cool thing.

1816
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,199
Speaker 1: It is and I can see it, and it's it's

1817
01:30:40,279 --> 01:30:44,439
palpable your energy and everything go. Do they whisper to

1818
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,760
me dot com? Uh, talk to David follow him on

1819
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,359
TikTok because you do do the readings there, you said, right,

1820
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:50,760
I do.

1821
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 2: I do probably like three or four times a week

1822
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,199
at some point. I do free readings there and you

1823
01:30:55,239 --> 01:30:59,000
can ask whatever you want. And if I always tell

1824
01:30:59,039 --> 01:31:01,920
people if my guys are with me, for that because

1825
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,039
I do in Claire audiently. So it's like if they

1826
01:31:04,079 --> 01:31:06,279
go this one, I just pin it up there, I

1827
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:06,800
just do it.

1828
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,359
Speaker 1: And then they answered the uh, and what do you

1829
01:31:09,399 --> 01:31:11,119
on TikTok for people to find you.

1830
01:31:12,039 --> 01:31:16,079
Speaker 2: Medium, David Hansel, it's it's make sure that there's like

1831
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:18,880
over ninety six thousand followers. If it's under that, it's

1832
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:19,199
not me.

1833
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I thank you very much. I hope you

1834
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,960
have a wonderful thanksgiving and gratitude is what your you know,

1835
01:31:27,039 --> 01:31:30,840
what you're saying, it's sort of the key to get

1836
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:31,840
what you want.

1837
01:31:32,039 --> 01:31:35,119
Speaker 2: Attitude and gratitude, enjoy everything and just have a good life.

1838
01:31:35,319 --> 01:31:37,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much, David. I hope to talk

1839
01:31:37,399 --> 01:31:38,000
to you again soon.

1840
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 2: All right, you too, thank you, Bye bye.

1841
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:46,239
Speaker 1: There he goes David Hansel got to uh, I find

1842
01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:49,840
this stuff just fascinating, absolutely fascinating, and I think that

1843
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,600
we get it wrong and everything we need is here,

1844
01:31:53,319 --> 01:31:55,560
and we guess need to go forward and do whatever

1845
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,560
we want with good intentions and keep those good thoughts.

1846
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:02,000
And I like what David said, you know, hold on

1847
01:32:02,039 --> 01:32:05,039
to the feeling of say it's money or whatever, how

1848
01:32:05,119 --> 01:32:07,680
is that going to make me feel really good stuff again,

1849
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,640
they whispered to me dot Com for David Hansel. I'm

1850
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,119
Bill Moran. We'll see you next week.

1851
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:25,239
Speaker 4: Freaking change to hold us tie moving towards the endless.

1852
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:39,399
Speaker 1: L I really enjoyed that. Thank you very much.

1853
01:32:40,199 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: Oh my pleasure.

1854
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:41,279
Speaker 1: I love.

1855
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 3: I know.

1856
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,039
Speaker 2: I'm always like self shy and tell