Speaker 1: Our next guest is a good friend of the show
Speaker 1: from Suomer Sports. It's always fun to welcome in Sam
Speaker 1: Brockhouse onto the program on a Wednesday afternoon. Sam, Happy Wednesday, Man,
Speaker 1: how you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. We're what less than a round twenty
Speaker 2: four hours until the NFL Draft, and people still have
Speaker 2: no idea what's going to happen. So I'm super excited
Speaker 2: to be on the Summer Sports Show tomorrow on YouTube
Speaker 2: on the Summer Sports platforms, and super excited to talk
Speaker 2: about the draft right now.
Speaker 1: For sure, Man, I appreciate the time. But before we
Speaker 1: get into the draft, my producer informs me, as you know,
Speaker 1: we are the home the University of Utah. We are
Speaker 1: broadcasting well about a mile mile and a half away
Speaker 1: from Risco Stadium. We had our spring game on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and so you fans kind of got their first look
Speaker 1: at Devin Dampierre. I wonder what you make of the
Speaker 1: new quarterback here in Salt Lake City? What should you
Speaker 1: fans know?
Speaker 2: Look, so, when we were grinding through the transport portal,
Speaker 2: Devin Dampier was someone who really popped up as a
Speaker 2: guy who may have an ability to make a major
Speaker 2: impact at the P five level, and I'm glad he
Speaker 2: went to Utah because this guy has a superpower, and
Speaker 2: rarely in college do we see guys at the G
Speaker 2: five level have a absolute superpower that is better than
Speaker 2: everyone else and that will almost surely translate to the
Speaker 2: next level. Using frame by frame analysis, which means we're
Speaker 2: looking at every single millisecond of a play, we noticed
Speaker 2: that Devin Dampier is one of the best sack avoids
Speaker 2: in the NCAA, and I would expect him to continue
Speaker 2: to be so at Utah. What does that mean? Thing
Speaker 2: about the Denver Broncos for example, this year, a lot
Speaker 2: of people had a lot of questions about bo Nix,
Speaker 2: but Sean Payton kept saying over and over again that
Speaker 2: this was a guy who avoided negative plays, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people who had watched him at Auburn, for example,
Speaker 2: didn't know what he was talking about. He came in
Speaker 2: and he was absolutely elite at avoiding sacks, and that
Speaker 2: allowed that offense to get the offensive line going, the
Speaker 2: screen game going, guys like Devon Veley going at the
Speaker 2: wide receiver position. If Devin Dampier is able to translate
Speaker 2: that one hundredth percentile so and so, and you can
Speaker 2: even go look at the number of sacks that he had.
Speaker 2: They were so minimal, especially for a small player. I
Speaker 2: think that there's really going to be a special sauce
Speaker 2: to the Utah offense this year, which I was really
Speaker 2: excited to come on here and talk.
Speaker 1: About love that. Let me ask you one follow up question,
Speaker 1: because his numbers last year at New Mexico on the
Speaker 1: ground were elite from the quarterback position, but he had
Speaker 1: twelve touchdown passes and twelve picks through the air, And
Speaker 1: I don't know, Sam, if he's going to be able
Speaker 1: to duplicate his ground attack as he translates to the
Speaker 1: Big twelve, but through the air with his arm, twelve touchdowns,
Speaker 1: twelve picks in a lesser division, if I could be
Speaker 1: kind and not being disrespectful, does that concern you about
Speaker 1: what he'll be able to do against Big twelve competition
Speaker 1: week in and week out.
Speaker 2: So it's an excellent point, and I think further analysis
Speaker 2: is needed, especially once he gets in a uth Jersey,
Speaker 2: about what those interceptions mean. And given he a guy,
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, in the team that was not superpowered
Speaker 2: and overachieved a little bit, I wonder how much that
Speaker 2: comes from the surrounding cast. For example, he was doing
Speaker 2: a lot of running around behind a poor offensive line,
Speaker 2: trying to avoid sacks and just trying to make plays.
Speaker 2: My expectation is as he adds a little bit more structure,
Speaker 2: his accuracy will increase, his decision making will increase, and
Speaker 2: it'll keep playing off the back of those eliminating negative
Speaker 2: plays on a play by play basis through his sack avoidance,
Speaker 2: and then the negative plays through the air, which you
Speaker 2: know typically are a little bit more random and frankly,
Speaker 2: especially if they're on third or fourth down when you're
Speaker 2: just trying to make a play, don't kill you as
Speaker 2: much as a first down sack would. We're going to
Speaker 2: see more consistency in his play. That's something very key
Speaker 2: to look at in weeks one and two, and I'll
Speaker 2: report back to y'all on what we end up seeing
Speaker 2: about his accuracy and decision making scores. But those definitely
Speaker 2: have to be improved, but I think they will on
Speaker 2: a more talented youth team.
Speaker 1: Love it sham stuff. I will move over the draft.
Speaker 1: Of course, It's an exciting time for pro football fans
Speaker 1: and we are the home of the NFL Draft. Here
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake. So we'll have it on our radio station,
Speaker 1: and we'll start with what is probably an easy question,
Speaker 1: But because I've been doing this for a long time,
Speaker 1: I know that sometimes smoke screens are sent out. Does
Speaker 1: it feel like it's just a consensus that Tennessee is
Speaker 1: going cam Ward? Is there any any sort of intrigue
Speaker 1: at the top.
Speaker 2: It feels like it's lock tight. You look at the
Speaker 2: betting markets, you look at the prediction markets. Feels like
Speaker 2: that's the way that they will go. The only way
Speaker 2: that I think this could get shaken up a little
Speaker 2: bit is if someone just absolutely gives them a godfather offer.
Speaker 2: For one, here's a quick little note. A lot of
Speaker 2: people have said that cam Ward would have gone quarterback four,
Speaker 2: five six last year. That indicates to me that he
Speaker 2: has what scouts call a green grade on him. So
Speaker 2: he's not a blue chip player. And if that's the
Speaker 2: expectation as well, you look at the data in some
Speaker 2: of the consensus mock draft, typically Shador Sanders is were
Speaker 2: in that you know, ten to twenty spots below him.
Speaker 2: That would also indicate that Shador Sanders or Jackson Darter
Speaker 2: or some of these guys may also have a green grade.
Speaker 2: If that is true, the Titans have a green grade
Speaker 2: on him and maybe have a green grade on somebody else.
Speaker 2: It would indicate that if someone gave him a god
Speaker 2: father offer for one, you probably would take that and
Speaker 2: expect that you get another quarterback down the line. I
Speaker 2: think that's extremely low probability for the Titans, because you
Speaker 2: know they can just go ahead and take him before
Speaker 2: a team like the Browns or the Giants, or the
Speaker 2: Jaguars or even the Raiders for example. That may mean
Speaker 2: a ton, especially given some of those teams need quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: So I think the Titans are selecting cam Ward. I
Speaker 2: think that calculus about trading back applies a lot more
Speaker 2: to the Browns the Giants than the other teams.
Speaker 1: Now, I'll ask a follow up. If they go cam Ward, Sam,
Speaker 1: do you agree with the selection? Do you think that's
Speaker 1: the right move?
Speaker 2: I think it is. I think that really all three
Speaker 2: of the teams at the should be considering a quarterback selection.
Speaker 2: The positional value of the quarterback is just so much
Speaker 2: more than every position that it kind of indicates that
Speaker 2: if you have a premium pick, you should either select
Speaker 2: a quarterback or try to drum up as much demand
Speaker 2: in the trade market for a team that does need
Speaker 2: a quarterback so that they can go up and get
Speaker 2: him and you can get some value elsewhere. That's the
Speaker 2: old school, nihilistic data scientist view on it. Obviously, there's
Speaker 2: more in play. There's politics, there's divisional rivalries, there's you know,
Speaker 2: the reality of who you have on your roster, and
Speaker 2: so there's all kinds of other dynamics that go into it.
Speaker 2: But that's what I view. I think it's probably the
Speaker 2: correct pick.
Speaker 1: Andrew Berry, Brown's general manager, came out and said they
Speaker 1: view Travis Santra primarily as a wide receiver, but also
Speaker 1: had some other things to say that led a lot
Speaker 1: of people to draw a straight line between his comments
Speaker 1: and yes, that's who they're taking. And as you reference
Speaker 1: a bunch of reports that they're also few building calls
Speaker 1: at two. But I guess if we're in a space
Speaker 1: where it feels like it consensus that one that Cam
Speaker 1: is off the board, the draft starts at two, what
Speaker 1: do you think the Browns do?
Speaker 2: So as it stands now, I think they go with
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter. I think that Travis Hunter is certified the
Speaker 2: only can't miss prospect in this draft. When you look
Speaker 2: at those same frame by frame, millisecond by millisecond AI
Speaker 2: grades that we at Schumer Sports called summer scores, he's
Speaker 2: elite both in coverage and receiving. Frankly, you're never going
Speaker 2: to probably see that ever again. I think Travis Hunter
Speaker 2: is the only can't miss prospect, and I think they're
Speaker 2: fine if they go ahead and select them. But here's
Speaker 2: a note. As I said, the positional value at those
Speaker 2: positions is not the same as the quarterback position. By definition.
Speaker 2: I don't even think they're actually betting on their evaluation
Speaker 2: of a guy like Shador Sanders or like Jackson Dart.
Speaker 2: I think they are solely betting on their availability models.
Speaker 2: There's only only a couple of teams that really need quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: It seems like the Giants aren't interested. It seems like
Speaker 2: the Saints are not interested, and if their models are
Speaker 2: showing that, perhaps they can wait until they're pick at
Speaker 2: thirty three to get a quarterback. I think they may
Speaker 2: go ahead roll the dice, pick Travis Hunter positional value
Speaker 2: to the wind, and start playing a little game of
Speaker 2: Roulette quarterback Roulette, and hope that Shador Sanders or whatever
Speaker 2: quarterback they like very analytical organization. The Browns are. I
Speaker 2: believe they're doing a lot of research into consensus big
Speaker 2: boards and into their scouting grades as well. It it'd
Speaker 2: be difficult for me to believe, just given what is public,
Speaker 2: that they have anyone else other than Shador Sanders at two.
Speaker 2: So I think they're really rolling the dice and seeing
Speaker 2: if they can get a quarterback down the line in
Speaker 2: the late first, trading back in at late first or
Speaker 2: in the second round.
Speaker 1: Every time Travis is asked about his NFL future, he's
Speaker 1: very specific about his desire to play on both sides
Speaker 1: of the ball. How do you think the Browns use him?
Speaker 1: What do you think that looks like?
Speaker 2: Look, I think you got to do it, and I
Speaker 2: think in the data sphere you just want more information.
Speaker 2: And when you have a player who can play both
Speaker 2: sides of the ball, let the snaps tell you where
Speaker 2: he's best at. I think you got to play him
Speaker 2: on both sides while he's still young, because if you
Speaker 2: have someone who can contribute on both sides, that's literally
Speaker 2: of one of one, maybe one of the best players
Speaker 2: of all time. By year three, perhaps he might be
Speaker 2: able to go just three years And if he does that,
Speaker 2: he may be a Hall of Famer right there. If not,
Speaker 2: you can simply just stop playing him on defense or
Speaker 2: stop playing on him on offense, and he can still
Speaker 2: be an elite player on either side of the ball.
Speaker 2: I am of the mind personally that you just get
Speaker 2: all the information you can as quick as possible and let.
Speaker 1: Him do both, all right? Going to number three now,
Speaker 1: as you referenced earlier, a lot of conversation about the
Speaker 1: Giants also fielding calls. And it's interesting because the Giants
Speaker 1: are one of those teams and Sam, as I've told
Speaker 1: you before, I'm a lifelong suffering fan the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: And we'll get there. But when you have as many
Speaker 1: holes as the Giants have, I mean, maybe you just
Speaker 1: go ab dual Carter. Maybe you don't think about it.
Speaker 1: There's some noise about Shador. They were out this way.
Speaker 1: The Giants were out in Colorado watching should or work
Speaker 1: out last week. But I would completely understand if they
Speaker 1: wanted to trade down and then get a heavy more
Speaker 1: picks to try to fill a bunch of holes. But
Speaker 1: what do you think the New York Giants do at
Speaker 1: number three?
Speaker 2: So first I think they evaluate their team, Abdul Carter
Speaker 2: will be the best player on the board, at least
Speaker 2: as the consensus is concerned. Here's an interesting bit about
Speaker 2: the Giants, though they had one of the better fronts
Speaker 2: in the league last year excellent sac rate, Brian Burns
Speaker 2: played well when he was healthy, Dexter Lawrence played well,
Speaker 2: Okerke played pretty well at the linebacker position, and they
Speaker 2: had Kevan Thibodeau who played all right. You know, he's
Speaker 2: one of the better defensive end two's in the league,
Speaker 2: and so I think that's where the analysis starts coming in.
Speaker 2: If you look at the expected value for an edge,
Speaker 2: historically for defensive ends, it's really about around Kavan Thibodeau.
Speaker 2: So you probably have in terms of expected value. Again,
Speaker 2: maybe they know a little bit more than me, but
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the historicals. You have two players
Speaker 2: that you can project over the next two or three
Speaker 2: years to be pretty similar in terms of production. One
Speaker 2: will be much cheaper than the other, but there's a
Speaker 2: much more uncertainty when it comes to drafting a player.
Speaker 2: So here's the gamble that they're going to make. If
Speaker 2: they take Abdol Carter. They're basically saying, we would rather
Speaker 2: this year, have three good edge rushers, and the next year,
Speaker 2: let Kavan Thibodeau walk and have a cheaper version again
Speaker 2: on average than Kavan Thibodeau. If they decide to go
Speaker 2: elsewhere trade back. They're basically saying, we know what Kavan
Speaker 2: Thibdeau is, there's not a ton of uncertainty there, and
Speaker 2: we would rather recoup value. And we don't really know
Speaker 2: if we're ready to compete. Maybe we don't know if
Speaker 2: Abdol Carter will make us a winning team year one.
Speaker 2: And I think those options are fairly clear. I think
Speaker 2: you probably lean to the more conservative way to do
Speaker 2: it if I'm the Giants, which would just be selecting
Speaker 2: Carter as one of the best players in the draft.
Speaker 2: But I, as an analyst, would certainly, you know, fight
Speaker 2: hard for trading back and trying to get more value
Speaker 2: because I just don't know how much Abdol Carter is
Speaker 2: going to help this team become a playoff team.
Speaker 1: So a little bit of a non sequorer here, but
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you because we are high speed ahead.
Speaker 1: We're about, let's see, twenty six hours and fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: away from the draft, and zero trades have been made.
Speaker 1: Involving first round picks, which isn't isn't all that normal?
Speaker 1: Typically there have at least been, you know, a dealer
Speaker 1: or two by now. Are you anticipating a busy night
Speaker 1: concerning the trade market? Do you think we're going to
Speaker 1: see a lot of movement? Jerry Jones came out yesterday
Speaker 1: they've got number twelve and they've got ten picks, and
Speaker 1: he's I don't know, maybe he's just Jerry being Jerry,
Speaker 1: but he said they're trying to make a bunch of deals.
Speaker 1: Do you think we're going to see a lot of
Speaker 1: trades go down tomorrow?
Speaker 2: So? I think there's two items that are or really three,
Speaker 2: I guess there's three items that are probably going to
Speaker 2: control this. Number one, what happens with the quarterbacks. If
Speaker 2: the Browns don't select a quarterback and the Giant don't
Speaker 2: select a quarterback, I think the heat is going to
Speaker 2: be on teams that either want to trade back in
Speaker 2: like the Giants or the Browns, or teams like the
Speaker 2: Steelers who sit at twenty one and may not be
Speaker 2: able to wait to get a quarterback. So I think
Speaker 2: that's option one that could be probably one, maybe two.
Speaker 2: In the back half of the first round. If people
Speaker 2: start getting hot on a guy like Jackson Dark, that
Speaker 2: could potentially be two trades, and on average draft day
Speaker 2: there's typically about three to five trades. So I'm trying
Speaker 2: to fill this up in my head. The second item
Speaker 2: ash jin genty. People have him as one of the
Speaker 2: best running back prospects in years. I've been hearing a
Speaker 2: lot of noise about James Gladstone and the Jaguars selecting
Speaker 2: him at five. I think that may be smoke, and
Speaker 2: I think if we get around five, a team who
Speaker 2: really wants to go get a running back, thinks they
Speaker 2: have the offensive line to support it, and think they
Speaker 2: can have a safe Jwan Barkley or Jamier Gibbs like
Speaker 2: player may want to go ahead and trade up to
Speaker 2: five before a team like the Raiders in particular could
Speaker 2: use them. A team like the Bears certainly seem like
Speaker 2: they could use them. I think that's probably a third trade.
Speaker 2: And then finally, in the middle of the rounds, I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people are going to get excited
Speaker 2: about edge rushers and tackles. Not a lot of guys
Speaker 2: who are certified edge rushers and tackles will be selected
Speaker 2: in rounds two and three. I think as you get
Speaker 2: to the middle to the end, you'll start seeing some
Speaker 2: of the teams that performed really well, like the Commanders,
Speaker 2: the Eagles, the Bills trade out of their spots to
Speaker 2: allow teams that need tackles or need edge rushers back
Speaker 2: into the first round, and then they'll snag their guys there.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of my expectation to the three to
Speaker 2: five trades that could happen, starting at about five with
Speaker 2: Ashton gent getting into the back half of the top
Speaker 2: ten with the quarterbacks, and then finally throughout the middle
Speaker 2: talking about jumping back in to kind of reach on
Speaker 2: a quarterback or select an edge or often s attackle
Speaker 2: I think that's the way it's going to break down.
Speaker 1: Jackson Dard played his high school football about eighteen nineteen
Speaker 1: miles as the crow flies from where we're talking, you know,
Speaker 1: it's been fun to watch him kind of evolve throughout
Speaker 1: his career after starting at SC and then transferred to
Speaker 1: a miss good kid, good family. Certainly a guy that
Speaker 1: is getting a lot of attention depending on who you
Speaker 1: asked or you talked to, Nobody really knows where he'll go.
Speaker 1: But what's the buzz on Jackson Dart and what's a
Speaker 1: good fit for him Sam.
Speaker 2: Here's the summary. If he hits his first read, he's
Speaker 2: going to be immensely productive after that, which you can
Speaker 2: go check this on Summer sports dot com. We have
Speaker 2: it color coded to show you where he ranks among
Speaker 2: players in the NCUBA last year after that first read.
Speaker 2: He loves to scramble. One of the highest scramble rates
Speaker 2: in NCUBA last year. And also he was very productive,
Speaker 2: one of the highest EPA expected points added per rush
Speaker 2: guys last year. The problem is, you can do that
Speaker 2: in college, really difficult to do that at the next level.
Speaker 2: When you got Miles Garrett, when you got some of
Speaker 2: these Eagles rushers, Durrance Armstrong, Michael Parsons, all these excellent
Speaker 2: edge rushers pearing after you at four or five speed,
Speaker 2: you don't really see that game the game in college.
Speaker 2: Really difficult to rely on the scrambling that much. Now.
Speaker 2: We saw Jayden Daniels do that pretty well last year,
Speaker 2: even though his profile changed a little bit as he
Speaker 2: settled into that offense. But that's a real real question
Speaker 2: mark for Jackson Dark. I think settling in with an
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator who puts him in a place to succeed,
Speaker 2: particularly on those first and second reads, which then further
Speaker 2: allows him to develop down the line. Is something that's good,
Speaker 2: and frankly, I don't know if it's the best fit.
Speaker 2: I'm a Saints fan. I think Shedor Sanders is probably
Speaker 2: a better prospect in terms of accuracy this year. But
Speaker 2: it makes sense for a guy like Kellen Moore, who
Speaker 2: had Jalen Hurts last year with a very similar background,
Speaker 2: a guy who wanted to hit his first read, especially
Speaker 2: given that was aj Brown and Devonte Smith, and then
Speaker 2: he was going to use his legs to make plays,
Speaker 2: and that took them all the way to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: even though their passing offense did struggle. Coached by Kellen Moore,
Speaker 2: it appears that the Saints are interested in Jackson Dort.
Speaker 2: I could see that being a pairing that makes sense,
Speaker 2: even though it might break my little Saints van heart
Speaker 2: fair enough.
Speaker 1: And since you brought up Shadoor, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: buzz around Shador of course, because of well, he's really good,
Speaker 1: and also he's Shador Sanders, he's Deon's kid, and obviously
Speaker 1: we are a PAC twelve former PAC twelve market now
Speaker 1: Big twelve Market in Colorado is a school that we're
Speaker 1: all familiar with, and we've seen Shador and Travis up close.
Speaker 1: So you reference the Saints, there's a lot of noise
Speaker 1: Saints at nine if he doesn't go off the board
Speaker 1: of nine to the Saints. Are we in danger of
Speaker 1: watching this kid fall?
Speaker 2: I think we are. I'm putting together my mock draft
Speaker 2: tonight for tomorrow. I think I'm going to have him
Speaker 2: dropping a little bit again. I don't think this is
Speaker 2: necessarily a showing of his evaluation in our data. He's
Speaker 2: one of the most accurate quarterbacks in recent memory all
Speaker 2: across the field, and we've confirmed that on my Draft
Speaker 2: INFM podcast with a couple of guys who chart every
Speaker 2: single throw eye test scouts. They understand that he's immensely
Speaker 2: accurate as well. Downside is sacks and the opposite of
Speaker 2: Devin Dampier when we talked at the top. Those down
Speaker 2: to down sacks can really kill drives. As a result,
Speaker 2: I think the drop, frankly is probably occurring more due
Speaker 2: to the huffing and hawing about the Horts and Pony
Speaker 2: Show coming to town and Sanders talking real loud and
Speaker 2: all this stuff. I don't like all that. I don't
Speaker 2: think it shows anything about his evaluation. I get upset
Speaker 2: that he's probably dropping for that reason. Do I understand
Speaker 2: it because of the politics, Maybe so, but it is
Speaker 2: what it is. I think the Steelers at twenty one
Speaker 2: are probably the red zones for him. But I could
Speaker 2: see us being shocked of him maybe being selected third,
Speaker 2: or someone trying to ump up if people start getting
Speaker 2: a little antsy about getting a quarterback in the first round.
Speaker 1: All right, Sam, with the remaining a few minutes we have,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you about teams specifically. We are a
Speaker 1: market without an NFL team, but we are a market
Speaker 1: with a lot of NFL fans, and it depends on
Speaker 1: you know, there are pockets of fans of the Broncos
Speaker 1: because of the proximity. But I want to ask you
Speaker 1: about the Niners. We have a lot of Niners fans
Speaker 1: here and that's really because of Steve Young, who played
Speaker 1: his college ball at Brigham Young and a lot of
Speaker 1: people continue to cheer for San Fran here in the market,
Speaker 1: and it's a big draft for them. They've got to think,
Speaker 1: what like eleven picks, and they've got number eleven in
Speaker 1: the first round. So how do you think san Fran
Speaker 1: approaches this draft process and what are the holes they
Speaker 1: need to plug.
Speaker 2: So going into this, I thought a hidden need of
Speaker 2: theirs might actually be the quarterback position. Brot Perty has
Speaker 2: said that he wants to be the highest paid guy,
Speaker 2: or at least very close to it, and we've seen
Speaker 2: them move on from Jimmy Garoppolo in the past. I
Speaker 2: thought maybe that was a hidden need for them. It
Speaker 2: seems as if they're working at out. No big news
Speaker 2: has come out, but it seems like he's going to
Speaker 2: go to OTAs. So I think in the face of that,
Speaker 2: in the face of him getting a deal, you probably
Speaker 2: want to rebuild that offensive line. They let Aaron Banks
Speaker 2: go last year. I think they want to have Christian
Speaker 2: McCaffrey in a spot to succeed as he begins to age,
Speaker 2: and perhaps invest in a good offensive lineman Kelvin Banks.
Speaker 2: I think if he's available, makes a lot of sense there.
Speaker 2: There's going to be a ton more offensive lineman the first, second,
Speaker 2: and third rounds that perhaps they could go grab. But
Speaker 2: also on the flip side, I think adding a second
Speaker 2: edge rusher could be a good use of resources. They've
Speaker 2: lost a lot. Frankly, they've cut a lot from that team,
Speaker 2: a lot of I guess you could say fat as
Speaker 2: they viewed it. They let go in free agency. So
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of different spots that can go. But
Speaker 2: I expect offensive line to be the highest probability, even
Speaker 2: though there's a lot of other places that could be addressed.
Speaker 1: I mentioned the Broncos, and for the first time in
Speaker 1: a while, Bronco fans have a reason to be optimistic
Speaker 1: after rookie season with bow Knicks. They get all of
Speaker 1: their offensive lineman back, including former Yuke Arett Bowles, Courland Sutton,
Speaker 1: Marvin Mims who emerged as a wide receiver to come
Speaker 1: back as well. Feels like running back might be something
Speaker 1: they look at. They've got seven picks, including twenty in
Speaker 1: the first round. Not twenty picks in the first round.
Speaker 1: That would be ridiculous. They have number twenty. But what
Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think Denver does throughout
Speaker 1: this draft process.
Speaker 2: I think the target is running back, and I think
Speaker 2: the target is a pass catching running back. Here's the question. Though, me,
Speaker 2: as an analyst, would recommend that they go with a
Speaker 2: premium position in the first round. If you draft a
Speaker 2: guy in the first round who's a running back, you
Speaker 2: better expect that he's going to be a top ten,
Speaker 2: top five player. That's a lot to ask given the
Speaker 2: historicals on the draft. However, looking at the specific running backs,
Speaker 2: this is believed to be an excellent running back class.
Speaker 2: A lot of people think it's between Omarion Hampton and
Speaker 2: Trey Henderson. I think Omarion Hampton is probably the better runner.
Speaker 2: I have questions about this pass protection ability and his
Speaker 2: receiving ability. Traveon Henderson maybe less of a runner, carried
Speaker 2: less of a workload last year sharing the backfield with
Speaker 2: Quinn Shawn Jenkins at Ohio State, but has a better
Speaker 2: pass blocking pedigree and a better pass catching pedigree. I
Speaker 2: think it's probably going to be between those guys. I'm
Speaker 2: leaning Trevion Henderson right now.
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs their head coach is Andy Reid byu
Speaker 1: Alum and you know, obviously this is a team that
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have the same amount of worries that some
Speaker 1: others do. They're still going to be in the mix
Speaker 1: as they are every year with fifteen hunderd center. They
Speaker 1: have eight picks, they have number thirty one in the
Speaker 1: first round. What do you think Kansas City needs to
Speaker 1: come away with during this draft process.
Speaker 2: I think they got to address the left side of
Speaker 2: that line. Joe Tooney is now a Chicago Bear, a
Speaker 2: lot of questions at the left tackle position. They drafted
Speaker 2: Kingsley Suing Matia last year to try to be that guy.
Speaker 2: Seems like it didn't work out. Perhaps he'll start at
Speaker 2: left guard this year. We're able to get a guy
Speaker 2: from the forty nine ers, but it seems like they're
Speaker 2: going into this year with two backups last year at
Speaker 2: the left guard and left tackle position. Luckily, they're in
Speaker 2: a spot where they should be able to snag a
Speaker 2: guy that could be a tackle, particularly if there's some fallers.
Speaker 2: But like I mentioned, expect trades up four tackles. I
Speaker 2: think they may be in that zone. They did it
Speaker 2: last year to try to grab Xavier Worthy. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be shocked if they trade up to grab a guy
Speaker 2: like Simmons out of Ohio State, the tackle, Josh Connerley
Speaker 2: the tackle out of Oregon, or maybe even a guy
Speaker 2: like Gray's Abel, a swing guy who played tackle at
Speaker 2: North Dakota State but will probably project to be a
Speaker 2: guard at the next level. I'd expect that to be
Speaker 2: the thought process, perhaps trading up to try to get
Speaker 2: a certified tackle at the next level.
Speaker 1: All right, before I said you loose, this didn't used
Speaker 1: to be the case. But proximity wise, the closest pro
Speaker 1: football team of Salt Lake City now resides in Las
Speaker 1: Vegas with the Raiders and Pete Carroll their new head coach.
Speaker 1: I feel like every time I read a Raiders draft primer,
Speaker 1: it's all about Ashton genty. But of course they may
Speaker 1: need a trade up if they're going to grab them.
Speaker 1: But they do have six and they've got I think
Speaker 1: nine total picks. What do the Raiders need to come
Speaker 1: away with from this draft process?
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, I think Gent at anywhere. Really, any
Speaker 2: running back in the first round could be a reach.
Speaker 2: I think if you're going to reach, it would be Gent.
Speaker 2: I question their defensive backfield. I think Will Johnson could
Speaker 2: be the answer, even though he's beginning to have injury
Speaker 2: rumors as of late. And I think really they could
Speaker 2: address a whole suite of things. Wide receiver could be
Speaker 2: an example. Maybe Tech McMillan falls to them. Five and
Speaker 2: six Jaguars and Raiders is a big question mark for
Speaker 2: me right now. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to evaluate all the data, but it seems like
Speaker 2: tech McMillan, Ashton Gent or perhaps you know a cornerback
Speaker 2: like Will Johnson is the direction that they should go
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 1: All right, Sam, where can people go? Get all your work?
Speaker 1: And obviously you'll be busy over the next four or
Speaker 1: five days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, check us out at suomer Sports on Twitter or
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Speaker 2: live draft show. Pull us up if you want to
Speaker 2: have data insights from me GM A guy who has
Speaker 2: sat in the seat, Thomas de menro Off, our president,
Speaker 2: will also be on in studio. He will be breaking
Speaker 2: down what it actually feels like the pressure. I think
Speaker 2: we're probably the only place that you can get that.
Speaker 2: We'll also be having Sean say Ed, who comes on
Speaker 2: this station quite a bit, breaking down the schemes, and
Speaker 2: Lindsey Rhodes will be driving the bus for us. It's
Speaker 2: going to be an excellent show. I ask you to
Speaker 2: tune in tomorrow during the draft second screen with us.
Speaker 1: Good stuff Sam and joy it Okay, we'll chat soon.
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