WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:04.559 Golf Smarter number three hundred and sixty nine, published on 2 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:08.720 February eighth, twenty thirteen. Coming up in our score Zone 3 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:12.560 Short Game Academy, the Wedge Guy addresses a question about 4 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:15.919 selecting the right wedge for different types of bunkers. 5 00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:21.079 Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain 6 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:24.719 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 7 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:30.760 golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our 8 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:35.640 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 9 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:39.280 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 10 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:41.119 So let's talk about that shot where you've got to 11 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:42.840 keep the ball low, but you still need to get 12 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:45.759 it seventy eighty yards. Should you mind walking me through 13 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:47.200 the mechanics of how to do that? 14 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:47.479 Well. 15 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:50.479 For one, you're going to take probably a little bit 16 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:53.200 extra club, meaning you're going to have to deloft your club. 17 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:54.799 If you want to hit it low, you need to 18 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:57.000 take a five iron. It's more of a chip shot 19 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.640 type swing in length, and that club's going to stay 20 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:02.119 very long. I think here's one of the most difficult 21 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.840 things is when you're trying to follow through your head. 22 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:07.680 Better be very still, and your hands better stay in 23 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:11.120 front of that club face beyond impact, and your follow 24 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:13.599 through needs to stay low. You're not finishing in a 25 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:16.439 high finish. You're keeping that club head low along the 26 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:19.719 ground and not going that far pass waist high, so 27 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:22.159 it's more of a pop. It's not a full swing. 28 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:23.439 But I think you need to make sure your club 29 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:26.480 head stays low. Critically, your head has to stay still. 30 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:28.280 We tend to when we try to hit that with 31 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:30.959 our hands forward and keeping our club head low. Our 32 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.640 bodies and heads tend to go forward ahead of the ball. 33 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:36.519 At the same time we can top the ball. You 34 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:38.439 don't hit it very good and it's a miss. So 35 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:41.519 keeping the head very still and maintaining your hands ahead 36 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:44.359 of club face with a very short follow through. There's 37 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:45.239 a lot of feel. 38 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:54.040 Involved shots that every golfer needs but doesn't know it. 39 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:56.719 With Kendorty, this is Golf. 40 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:00.799 Smarter sharing tips and insights from golf first and golf 41 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:02.879 professionals to help blower your score. 42 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:05.599 It's worked for your host, Fred Green. 43 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:07.599 Welcome to the Golf Smarter podcast. 44 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:09.919 Ken, Thank you, thanks for having me. 45 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:12.599 Oh it's a joy to have you here in the studio. 46 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.479 So now the audience is aware that I moved a 47 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:18.080 couple months ago, or they're not aware they don't really care. 48 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:22.599 What I haven't ever mentioned ever is that I live 49 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:26.879 next to the Marine Country Club. I've never mentioned this 50 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:30.080 until this very moment because I'm not a member of 51 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:33.919 the Marine Country Club yet. Someday I hope that works out, 52 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:37.879 but we'll see what happens. Anyway, we got a chance 53 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.120 to meet. We started talking, and I knew that I 54 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:43.000 had to get you on the show because not only 55 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:45.439 are you quite articulate about what you're doing, you're very 56 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:48.319 passionate about it. And I'm really excited to have you 57 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:51.719 on the show this time and many more in the future. 58 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:52.080 I hope. 59 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:52.400 Thank you. 60 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:57.680 I was recently on a trip played around a golf 61 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:01.960 with a head teaching professional at the course, and it 62 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.439 ended up being a playing lesson, which was awesome. I 63 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:06.479 didn't expect it, and we did a lot of video, 64 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.000 and I realized that one of the things that we 65 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:12.879 don't get to talk about very often is all the 66 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:16.800 shots you need in your bag that you never practice, 67 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:19.039 and I thought this would be a lot of fun 68 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.240 to talk about with you, because you have people who 69 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:24.039 come and play the same course multiple times a week, 70 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:29.680 and I would suspect they don't play very many other courses. 71 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:33.759 That's correct. And as far as practicing, how many people 72 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:37.599 go to the range and practice uneven lies and different 73 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:41.599 heights of grass They hit it off the tee or 74 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:45.840 off that range it's flat. So I think that there's 75 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:49.840 a couple levels to having a playing lesson. One is 76 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:54.000 it's reality. There's a big difference between hitt and balls 77 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:56.280 on the range and hitting it when it counts. So 78 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:58.520 I think a playing lesson really brings out the real 79 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:02.439 you very often. And there's shots in that range are 80 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:05.199 on the golf course. Excuse me that you can't replicate 81 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.960 on the range. You just can't. There's so many variables 82 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:10.120 on the golf course that you just cannot get on 83 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:14.840 the range. So I think a playing lesson is by 84 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:17.879 far the most valuable lesson you can have, and video 85 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.720 is important too, But range versus playing lesson, I don't 86 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:21.680 think there's a comparison. 87 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:26.480 Wow, and I'm sure you've watched people practice out on 88 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:29.959 the range, and what is your sense? What do you 89 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:32.160 get that most people are just doing the same thing 90 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:34.480 over and over and over, or they'll take three or 91 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:37.079 four swings with each club, or they just go right 92 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:42.000 to the driver. What are your frustrations with watching people practice. 93 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:45.000 Well, I've seen all different levels. You get some people 94 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:48.040 that are very analytical and they'll sit out there and 95 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:53.879 they've got their notes and they're thinking about the you know, 96 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.480 they're analyzing and thinking about different shots. And then you've 97 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:58.079 got other people that are out there and just trying 98 00:04:58.120 --> 00:04:59.600 to bang the ball and hit it as solid as 99 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.480 they can, hit it as far as they can. I 100 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.000 don't know if there's really any method that they have. 101 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:07.959 I think if you're going to go there's two reasons 102 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.639 to go to the driving range, simply to warm up 103 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:14.399 to go play, or you need to have a purpose. 104 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:17.920 Why am I here? Otherwise it's just exercise, and I 105 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:21.839 think more people unfortunately probably do that then go out 106 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:23.439 there with a specific purpose. 107 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:28.040 Do you, I mean other than when a club event, 108 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:30.600 club championship type of thing is coming up. Do most 109 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:32.759 people just come in for a warm up before the 110 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:37.279 round or are they seriously out there practicing two tents. 111 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:38.639 So it depends on the time of day. The morning 112 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:41.279 people are out there warming up. The afternoons where you 113 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:44.199 see people camping over that bucket of balls or several 114 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:45.720 buckets and working on their game. 115 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.120 How do you feel about someone just taking two hundred 116 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:50.199 balls a day and just. 117 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:55.040 Well than nothing, it's better than nothing. I mean, you know, 118 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.480 when I give a lesson, I say, listen, this is 119 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:01.040 a fifty to fifty deal. You need to take lessons 120 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:03.160 if you're going to improve, and you need to hit 121 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:06.120 golf balls. You have to get that high end eye coordination. 122 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:08.399 You have to work on those things. So them hitting 123 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.680 golf balls, at least the club is in their hands 124 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:13.800 and there's some familiarity with that. I think that's very, 125 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:16.360 very important. I think they'll only go so far if 126 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:23.879 they're not if they don't have some direction and a 127 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:26.639 purpose and a vision of where they want to be. 128 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:29.759 And you know, if they take some good lessons and 129 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:33.639 go to a valued instructor, they're going to have a 130 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:36.120 path in which they want to get to their goal. 131 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:40.399 And I'm not sure that everybody at that range. I think. 132 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:43.040 I think too often you get people out there saying 133 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:45.639 let me try this, let me try that. Okay, I'm 134 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:47.639 going to try this, and before they know it, they've 135 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.040 tried so many things. They don't know what's right and 136 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.360 what's wrong. They could have made the correct swing and 137 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:55.839 just didn't hit it that well, which we all do, 138 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:59.279 and then figured, okay, well that's probably the wrong move. 139 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.279 And they didn't realize that they just made a great 140 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:06.120 swing and then they changed to something else and who knows, 141 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:08.079 they might hit it well and think, okay, let me 142 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.680 do this, and they're off track, and like I said, 143 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:14.319 they don't know. I think they get confused. Eventually, they don't. 144 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:15.920 They've got so many things in their bag that they're 145 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:17.879 pulling out of the grab bag that they don't know 146 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:19.519 what's right and what's not. And very often when they 147 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:23.120 come to a lesson, I'm wiping this light clean and 148 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:25.120 erasing a lot. I feel like I always tell me, I 149 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:27.199 feel like I'm the grinch, you know. I take so 150 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.040 many things away from them in a lesson because I 151 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:31.839 think people are misdirected. 152 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:35.319 Well, when you say let me try this, let me 153 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:37.879 try this, are you talking about that? They'll say, let 154 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:42.199 me try hitting my hybrid from under a tree, or 155 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:44.160 it's like, oh, let me see if I can flatten 156 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:45.600 my swing plane a little. 157 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:48.519 More, flatten the swing plan. Very few people actually will 158 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:51.560 come to me and work on a specialty shot. You know, 159 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:56.279 they're just trying to hit it farther, hit it more consistently, straighter. 160 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:59.839 If it's the short game, obviously they're trying to get better. 161 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:01.879 But for somebody to come to me and say, you know, 162 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:05.560 I need to work on this the shot under the tree. 163 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:07.439 One thing we have here at Marine. We have a 164 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:09.680 hole on number seven that's very difficult and the second 165 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:12.800 shot leaves you with very often the ball below your feet. 166 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:15.480 So I like that specific somebody will come up to 167 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:17.279 me specifically and say I want to work on whole 168 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:20.439 number seven. I have a very difficult time with that 169 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:23.120 shot to that par five, the third shot to the 170 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:26.879 par five green with the ball below their feet sometimes 171 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:30.560 in rough And that's the time that sometimes I'll get 172 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:35.960 specific request on different lies or different setups. 173 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.879 Do you do you find yourself trying holding back of 174 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:45.360 rolling your eyes when you when someone comes to you 175 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:47.360 say what do you want to work on? And they say, 176 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:49.840 I just want to be more consistent? I mean, is 177 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:51.519 that like the number one request? 178 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:51.840 Now? 179 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:52.720 Really? 180 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:55.000 Well, well, I'll tell you what I think. It's probably 181 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:57.039 a toss up because I get distanced a lot too. 182 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:00.080 It's consistent, yes, yes. 183 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:01.600 And do you ever, like, don't you want to be 184 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:02.279 closer to the hole? 185 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:02.600 Don't you? 186 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:04.600 I mean it's like, really, do you know how far 187 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:06.799 you hit each of your clubs? You? Really is distance 188 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:08.480 the thing that's holding you back. 189 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:10.519 Oh. I always tell them that's the car before the horse. 190 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:12.080 That's the last thing I want to talk about. 191 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:12.600 Really. 192 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:17.519 Well, yeah, tell them to play different teas, yeah, right, right. 193 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:21.200 Well, what I tell them is that I I did 194 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:25.360 a little experiment on my own. I hit my pitching 195 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:27.159 wedg about one hundred and thirty hundred and thirty five 196 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:29.879 yards and just dawned on me one day that you know, 197 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:31.960 part four might be one hundred or three hundred and 198 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:35.200 ninety or four hundred or in that neighborhood for most people, 199 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:38.080 I can hit that green in three with my pitching wedge, 200 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:40.519 and since I'm hitting a pitching wedge into the green, 201 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:44.639 I should get within reason anyways. And I would use 202 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:46.799 my pitching wedge to actually put the ball too, and 203 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:49.240 just kind of hit the equator of the ball with 204 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:52.080 the lead edge of the club. And so I decided 205 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:53.600 to go out and play nine holes with my pitching 206 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.720 watch just for the heck of it. And on the 207 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:58.639 very first hole, I hit my third shot six feet away, 208 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.399 missed the putt, but I mean there was an opportunity 209 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:04.000 to part, and I ended up boguing in for forty 210 00:10:04.039 --> 00:10:07.159 five for nine holes. So that's a ninety if I 211 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:10.600 if I double that, play eighteen holes and I have 212 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:15.039 hit a maximum shot one hundred and thirty five yards. 213 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:17.039 So when somebody tells me, they come up to me 214 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:18.840 and say, god, I can't break a hundred, I can't 215 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:20.759 break ninety, and I, you know, well, how far do 216 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:23.879 you hit it? About one eighty two hundred. I tell 217 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:26.320 them they're barking up the wrong tree. And I also, 218 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:30.399 you know, I think that that contact and direction consistencies 219 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.639 certainly are well above distance. So at least I've got 220 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:38.039 a little little data and a little history to support 221 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:40.200 what I say. And they buy into it pretty quickly. 222 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:40.840 I think. 223 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.120 We talked about this previously. Now I'm just starting to 224 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:51.279 comprehend what you were saying. You played the entire nine 225 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:53.240 holes with just your nine iron. 226 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:57.919 Pitching watch, with your pitching wedge only oh only, Yeah. 227 00:10:58.080 --> 00:10:59.200 That I've great challenge. 228 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:02.279 I've even I've even had playing lessons where I'll say, okay, 229 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:05.320 we're on our last hole times running out, I'll play 230 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:07.240 I'm just gonna use my pitching wedge and I'll play 231 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:10.559 against you heads up and I've powered holes. I I 232 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:14.720 it's it's almost embarrassing for them because I just show 233 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:18.039 them how simple this is. If it's if you just 234 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:19.600 hit it one hundred and thirty five yards and you're 235 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:22.039 halfway consistent. You know how people are, they want to 236 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.720 bust the ball, especially the young male. A lot of 237 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:26.440 the lot of the young male just they come out 238 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:28.759 of their shoes and you know, they're all over the 239 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:30.960 lot and it's so much it'd be so much better 240 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.279 if you could get them to tone down and just 241 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:35.399 keep it in play, they'd play so much better. But 242 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:38.559 I think that's a fight with a testosterone. 243 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:41.039 Well you know that that are four letter word ego. 244 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:41.799 Yeah. 245 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:44.080 Absolutely, it gets in the way of everything, you know. 246 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.000 Yeah, And I tell people, you know, you're better off 247 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:48.120 just getting up there and I'm gonna bunt this down 248 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:51.159 the middle of the fairway attitude, and you will play better. 249 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:53.840 And I've seen people with injuries play better because they 250 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:55.679 have to. They have to tone down a little bit, 251 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:58.879 swing easier, that's right, pull back and relax a little bit. 252 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.759 More they swing ease year and I think more times 253 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:03.639 than that people play better when they have to do 254 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:04.840 that because of an injury. 255 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:05.559 Mm hmm. 256 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:07.960 You think they'd play worse because they were hurting. 257 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:10.360 No, it's just the hardest thing to comprehend that you 258 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:12.039 can hit the ball farther if you don't swing as 259 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:14.080 hard well, and it's swing fast, grow. 260 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.919 Up though throwing. You want to go farther, you throw 261 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:19.120 it harder. You want to hit that ball out of 262 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:22.000 the park, you swing harder. Uh. And it just makes 263 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:24.799 sense from the sports we grew up with that. Well, 264 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:26.559 if I swing as hard as I can, this sucker 265 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.399 is gonna fly. And it's so much Mechanics are so 266 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:33.159 much more important in golf, uh than than power. And 267 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:36.600 I think you can get power through mechanics. You're not 268 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.159 going to find mechanics going the power route. 269 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:39.919 Mm hmm. 270 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:42.679 Well, it's you know, hit down to make it go up, 271 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:45.159 swinging easier to make it go farther, opposite. 272 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:47.759 It's to the core, isn't it. It's just it's as 273 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:49.840 it makes sense, yes, yeah, and it's hard. 274 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:52.000 I mean I know that that I try to contain 275 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.519 myself on my drives, and yet I find myself just 276 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:55.440 coming out of my shoes. 277 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:57.919 Sure, it's like, cut it out, keep your feet on 278 00:12:57.960 --> 00:12:58.399 the ground. 279 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:02.559 Yeah, just swinging Select forty five and a half inches. 280 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.960 You're with the masses and they keep me busy. Actually, 281 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:07.720 well that's good. 282 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:12.480 What's the difference between being a head professional at a 283 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:16.600 country club versus or have you done anything if you 284 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:18.120 worked at public courses. 285 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:19.679 Before or just I've been at a public course, I've 286 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.639 been just an instructor at a private course. I've been 287 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.480 assistant slash instructor and now head professional at Marine Country Club. 288 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:29.360 And you know, if you're the instructor, well, that's your 289 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:31.720 job all day long. Every day you're going out and 290 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:34.399 lessons all day or playing lessons, where if you're the 291 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:38.360 head golf professional, lessons are just a small piece of 292 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:42.440 the puzzle. You're running a business, tournaments, merchandise and the 293 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:46.120 day to day operations, and your whole staff is teaching 294 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.320 and you're not sitting on the tee all day. And 295 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.559 I love teaching. It's it's extremely rewarding. But for years 296 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:55.159 and years that's all I did, and it's kind of 297 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:56.639 nice to take a break and just do it a 298 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:58.320 little bit more. I think it's more rewarding that I 299 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:01.600 do it part time. No, I get more out of 300 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:04.759 it now. Nice, that's nice, and hopefully they get more 301 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:06.759 at me. Yeah, well, of course, I mean if you're 302 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:09.679 there person after person after person, I mean you're a 303 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:11.679 pretty strong person to have the same energy that at 304 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:14.440 the end of the week for client number fifty, then 305 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.639 you did the first one. 306 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.720 And what we haven't talked about is Marine Country Club 307 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:21.039 is managed by Truon Golf. 308 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:23.399 Yes, and they have. 309 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:25.600 Why don't you give me a little shout out for 310 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.559 true because I've always a big fan of Truon golf courses, 311 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.840 in the public courses and the resort courses that I've played. 312 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:34.279 I just love the way they manage a golf course. 313 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:38.080 I love the condition of every Truon course I've ever played. 314 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:42.120 I'm a big fan and the fact that you know 315 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:45.759 I've got this Truon course in my backyard makes me crazy. 316 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:47.440 What is it about Trouon? 317 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:49.879 Well, first of all, in two thousand and eight, Truon 318 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.840 started to manage my club that I was in South Florida. 319 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:56.840 It's a fifty four hole facility, private equity, gated, high 320 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:00.639 end and they turned that club around. I believe the 321 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:02.759 year they moved in, or just the year before they 322 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:05.519 moved in, uh, they lost to three quarters of a 323 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:08.480 million dollars, and two years after they came in they 324 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:11.440 actually made three quarters of a million dollars. The conditions 325 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:15.320 of the courses complete one eighty they were in trouble, 326 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:19.039 and they went from again being in some bit of 327 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:24.159 trouble to the facility of the year within Truon and 328 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:27.279 Truon manages two hundred golf courses or approximately two hundred 329 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:31.159 golf courses, and they've got a lot of resources. And 330 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:34.600 then they came into Marin, and Marin brought them in 331 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:37.399 for a reason, and so far the feedback has been 332 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:42.320 extremely positive and they're very good at it taking care 333 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.759 of your country club. The conditions of the courses. I 334 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:48.360 go to the Truon managers or I mean, I never wonder. 335 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:50.759 I know they're going to be in good condition. And 336 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:55.559 the staff is the customer service is fantastic. I mean, 337 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:59.799 it's it's a great friendly atmosphere with every Truon course. 338 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:01.519 So it's great to be a part of them, it 339 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:04.120 really is. And that's how I came to Marin because 340 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:07.159 I was working at the course in South Florida Ball 341 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:09.519 and Owls and they needed a head professional and asked 342 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:11.879 if I would be interested, and I left it the chance. 343 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:15.120 The general manager here at Marin Country Club, Ryan Wilson. 344 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:19.879 He was actually featured on Golf Smarter back in two 345 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:22.080 thousand and six when he was general manager of a 346 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:23.360 truon course in Arizona. 347 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:24.720 So that's what happened to his career. 348 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:28.679 Yeah, he's not listening. 349 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:34.159 But one of the things that was said then, and 350 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:36.600 it's always rung true to me, is that at the 351 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:40.279 public truoned courses, they treat their guests like members. 352 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:42.519 Yeah, and I've always said that. Actually I was at 353 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:44.360 a public course and somebody asked me what the difference is, 354 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:48.159 and I said, I don't see a difference. I you know, 355 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.360 you see some are returning customers, but a lot of 356 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:53.679 new customers with a public golf course. But I still 357 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.240 treat them as if they're my member. I just don't 358 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.039 you know, with a with a member club, Yes, you 359 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:01.440 spend a lot more time with them. They become almost family. 360 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:04.240 There's a more of a relationship there. But is there 361 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.240 any different respect level or the way you handle them 362 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:10.559 in the service department. No, I don't. I don't think so. 363 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.000 And we know that the golf industry has had some 364 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:16.759 difficult times over the last few years, as every industry 365 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:21.880 has UH and UH. Private courses have been deeply affected 366 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:24.400 by this, many courses closing every single year. 367 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:29.240 How's business business for Morena is very good. We're fortunate. 368 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:32.920 We're in a pretty nice area of Morenne County and 369 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:37.599 we are fortunate to that we don't have to worry. 370 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:39.519 I mean, we're always looking for more members, but we're 371 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:42.200 not in a position that we're going to be closing 372 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:42.640 our doors. 373 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:47.680 Fortunately, hopefully not. 374 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:47.559 Not a chance, not a chance. 375 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:50.039 All right, Let's let's talk about those shots in your 376 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:52.519 bag that you don't practice. Let's let's think about a 377 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:55.039 couple of different shots that that people should be thinking 378 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:59.039 about when they're on the practice facility at the driving range. 379 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:02.920 Let's say you play a course it has a lot 380 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:07.119 of trees, low hanging trees. Let's talk about how you 381 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:10.400 would approach and right out here. 382 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:12.279 There there's you know, you've got to right outside your door. 383 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:16.119 I've seen people standing, well, there's a bunker right outside 384 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:19.240 my gate here. But there's a couple of trees here 385 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:22.200 that you cannot get a good shot at the green, 386 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:24.599 because your drive is going to end up under some 387 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:26.880 trees that have branches that are no more than ten 388 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:27.400 feet high. 389 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:29.000 Yep. If you're a right hander and you slice it 390 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:33.319 off your tee, you're most likely navigating some trees and 391 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:34.880 possibly going under them. Yeah. 392 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:39.680 Yeah, So first thing we have to learn, and one 393 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:41.720 of my all time favorite lines is never follow a 394 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:43.559 bad shot with a stupid shot and. 395 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:46.720 You're going right where you should. I mean the you know, 396 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:50.160 I believe that the first mistake isn't what kills you. 397 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:52.240 It's the second one. And if you try to make 398 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:54.920 up for the first one, there goes double and triple. 399 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:56.920 You need to take you you're going to add you're 400 00:18:56.920 --> 00:18:58.079 going to add strokes to your score. 401 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.559