Speaker 1: So shout out to the backside. Also shout out to
Speaker 1: four Street Live. I hadn't thought about it this week,
Speaker 1: but there's no way this is not one of their
Speaker 1: bigger weekends of the year because of so many people
Speaker 1: that are in Louisville and that stay downtown. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's not unfair to say that four Street
Speaker 1: right now probably caters more so to people that are
Speaker 1: traveling to Louisville than you know, people who live here,
Speaker 1: because honestly, not a lot of people live downtown Louisville.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, people do live downtown Louisville, but
Speaker 1: you know, if you just marketed to that type of crowd,
Speaker 1: meaning just locals that are just within walking distance, that
Speaker 1: would be a smaller group of people. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I went out to my car and they're doing a
Speaker 1: sound check for a concert that's taken place tonight, and
Speaker 1: they've also got already like a bar set up in
Speaker 1: the middle, which you know, for events and whatnot, they
Speaker 1: do that. But like I leave here every day and
Speaker 1: even on Fridays more often than not. At six fifteen,
Speaker 1: six thirty, you know, it's still pretty pretty pretty light
Speaker 1: out there, but it's going to be packed tonight. And
Speaker 1: I don't say this just because this is our home now.
Speaker 1: We broadcast live every day here from four Street Live.
Speaker 1: But if you don't live here and you've never seen
Speaker 1: this place and you have no knowledge of like what
Speaker 1: to expect in downtown Louisville, you have to keep in
Speaker 1: mind people who walk by here probably think this place
Speaker 1: looks cool as hell, and it is. I just don't
Speaker 1: you know, So I just I get why you would
Speaker 1: not come here all the time, because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of cool places to go in Louisville all over the
Speaker 1: city and the surrounding area that have great food, restaurant
Speaker 1: bar scene. Like you know, I just wish. I wish
Speaker 1: people kept Louisville and down. I wish people kept downtown
Speaker 1: Louisville more so in the rotation as far as a
Speaker 1: place to go.
Speaker 2: And you know, have a good time.
Speaker 1: And again, I know you could clearly get in, you know,
Speaker 1: be in harm's way in downtown Louisville in certain spots
Speaker 1: and and that sucks. But I think you could also
Speaker 1: be in harms way really anywhere around here. That's that's
Speaker 1: just the reality of it. And I mean, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: speak for anybody. But I mean, I don't know this
Speaker 1: for certain, but like I would be highly shocked if,
Speaker 1: like when they are having events and live performances from
Speaker 1: musical acts or just you know, a Saturday night where
Speaker 1: all the bars are open in the restaurants, like I
Speaker 1: would imagine they've got pretty pretty legit security to make
Speaker 1: sure that, like, you know, people aren't in danger. I mean,
Speaker 1: you never know. I mean, hell, you never know at
Speaker 1: any point in life. But you know, like I'm not
Speaker 1: going to just because you know, I'm washed and I'm
Speaker 1: old up. I'm old and I'm washed up, and you know,
Speaker 1: it would just be a real force. But like I
Speaker 1: bet it would be fun as hell to hang out
Speaker 1: at four Street tonight, be out there for the concert
Speaker 1: and hit up a couple of the bars. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people that are here for
Speaker 1: the derby that aren't from here will enjoy themselves, and
Speaker 1: that's great, but it should be a reminder that we
Speaker 1: have a pretty cool place here too, that like you know,
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a bad idea to come down here and
Speaker 1: hit up one of the one of the really good restaurants.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've opened up a couple of different restaurants
Speaker 1: that I'm sure people aren't even aware of that that
Speaker 1: are pretty good. So yeah, they'll have.
Speaker 2: A big crowd tonight.
Speaker 1: And you know, I can already feel it, meaning you
Speaker 1: just know that there's a lot of people here at
Speaker 1: least getting here that that that you know, for our
Speaker 1: big day, which is Derby, and we do we do
Speaker 1: it big. There's nothing like having a big event that
Speaker 1: you embrace. And really, you know, I'm sure there there
Speaker 1: have been people that have been to the Derby that
Speaker 1: didn't love it and maybe didn't love Louisville, but they're losers.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're being honest.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't take it personal, but like it's a
Speaker 1: you problem at least I at least from my perspective.
Speaker 2: That's the way. That's the way I would see it.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see where do we want to go here,
Speaker 1: just to quickly, to quickly reset some things. We did
Speaker 1: talk a little bit earlier about the the NBA Playoffs,
Speaker 1: just because I think the NBA Playoffs this year there's
Speaker 1: been some good some good drama, right, I mean, you
Speaker 1: had some near fights in the first couple of games
Speaker 1: in these first round series that got me interested because
Speaker 1: they were competitive games. I mean the Jannis and Halliburton's
Speaker 1: dad thing. I mean that that's certainly a big story
Speaker 1: that brought more attention to that that that matchup than
Speaker 1: than you know.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Of course, it was the end of it, it all,
Speaker 1: It ended it after that happened. But the Lakers, I
Speaker 1: mean the Lakers in Lebron, They're going to be talked
Speaker 1: about regardless of what's going on at a really high level.
Speaker 1: And I'm just curious, like, is Lebron, like put it
Speaker 1: this way, if Lebron didn't do what he did last
Speaker 1: summer by you know, really pressuring maybe forcing the Lakers
Speaker 1: to draft his son in the second round so he
Speaker 1: can say that he and his son are both in
Speaker 1: the NBA on the same roster together and you know
Speaker 1: they were both there on Opening Night, all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Like if his son didn't play basketball and
Speaker 1: he played football and that whole thing was net or
Speaker 1: he didn't even have a son named Bronnie James, who
Speaker 1: you know was fresh out of college after one year,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if he did decide to hang
Speaker 1: it up, Like do you think Lebron is still hungry
Speaker 1: to like go out there and win a bunch of championships.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that like he doesn't care anymore, but
Speaker 1: like he has enough rings. He's won rings with three
Speaker 1: different franchises. He's you know, like, even though he's still
Speaker 1: playing at a really, really high level, his best days
Speaker 1: are clearly in the rear view more so than ahead
Speaker 1: of him. He's forty years old and he has nothing
Speaker 1: really left to prove. So for those and I did it,
Speaker 1: I did it earlier, but somebody on the text I
Speaker 1: made a good point. But earlier I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: you know, he's doing this whole thing where he's got
Speaker 1: to talk to his family, he's got to do you know,
Speaker 1: he's going to have to see you know, what the
Speaker 1: Lakers decided to do because of the roster, and it's
Speaker 1: a business and things can change, YadA, YadA, YadA, all
Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean, I still think he's going to
Speaker 1: come back, but I only base that off mostly just
Speaker 1: because of the fact that his son is going to
Speaker 1: be returning to the NBA at least unless he gets
Speaker 1: cut or waved. So if he didn't have a son
Speaker 1: that he I guess forced into the NBA, because you know,
Speaker 1: he's Lebron James. I wonder like if this would be it.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still playing at a high level. Despite
Speaker 1: the Lakers not being a really good team in recent years,
Speaker 1: he still puts up big numbers. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: watch him even a little bit, you might be able
Speaker 1: to tell that he's not what he was in Miami.
Speaker 1: But like he's still one of the best players on
Speaker 1: the planet. And usually if that's the case, you continue
Speaker 1: to play.
Speaker 2: But like, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like when Lebron moved to la despite
Speaker 1: him getting that ring in the in the in the
Speaker 1: Disney bubble, Like I just feel like at that point
Speaker 1: it was kind of a confirmation that like he was
Speaker 1: still going to play and still going to you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly it's still his career. He's not at
Speaker 1: there loafing, but I think he's now more focused on
Speaker 1: projects that are not basketball and business and fame and
Speaker 1: all that. And there's none wrong with it, hi, I mean, again,
Speaker 1: the guy's given a lot of years to the NBA.
Speaker 1: But Cowherd was really you know, being heavy handed earlier
Speaker 1: talking about how he, you know, he doesn't believe there's
Speaker 1: any reason that like anybody should consider Lebron not coming back.
Speaker 1: And although I agree, I think I only agree just
Speaker 1: because of the of the situation with his.
Speaker 2: Son BROWNI.
Speaker 1: All right, so real quick, the uh we need to
Speaker 1: get to a break in just a moment. But one
Speaker 1: of the things that I thought was interesting is the
Speaker 1: NFL jerseys as far as the sales for rookies, like
Speaker 1: the guys who were drafted, and I guess the top
Speaker 1: sellers probably aren't surprising. Travis Hunter number one, cam Ward
Speaker 1: number two, and then Shudore Sanders is third, Ashton genty four.
Speaker 1: And then the receiver McMillan from who went to Arizona,
Speaker 1: who's drafted a BYuT the Panthers. He's number five, so
Speaker 1: is Shaudoor Sanders being a fifth round pick and yet
Speaker 1: having the third most jersey sales, Like, isn't that more
Speaker 1: confirmation that like he's I mean, they're succeeding in a
Speaker 1: major way as far as just relevant and you know, polarizing,
Speaker 1: I guess, because I mean you can tell, like the
Speaker 1: Browns they wanted shad Or Sanders late in the draft.
Speaker 2: Brown.
Speaker 1: I don't know about all Browns fans, but like, and again,
Speaker 1: if it's your team, whoever they draft, you're going to
Speaker 1: find a way to embrace it.
Speaker 2: But it's so crazy.
Speaker 1: They also drafted a quarterback two rounds before they drafted
Speaker 1: should Or Sanders, and like nobody's talking about that at all.
Speaker 1: Like a third round quarterback, that's somebody who's got a
Speaker 1: chance to be your backup right away and might take
Speaker 1: over in a year or two. But like Dylan Gabriel,
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got Brown's players tweeting out a warm
Speaker 1: welcome to shad Or Sanders.
Speaker 2: Let's ride, let's get it lock in.
Speaker 1: And yet you know, most guys who get drafted in
Speaker 1: the fifth round aren't on the team. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: just uh, just one of those things that I can't
Speaker 1: help but acknowledge. And you know, it's it's a credit.
Speaker 1: It's a gift to be able to just constantly be
Speaker 1: in in the uh, in the news cycle, constantly being
Speaker 1: talked about for good or bad. I mean, whenever it's
Speaker 1: a known thing that you got to you know, you
Speaker 1: probably have an opinion, and everybody wants to. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess credit to his dad, because I
Speaker 1: really feel like it's more his doing than anybody else.
Speaker 1: If I'm being honest with you, any chance like he's
Speaker 1: their guy next year, Austin, Like any chance that like
Speaker 1: shad Or Sanders proves everybody wrong and you know, shows that,
Speaker 1: you know, people who passed on him are going to
Speaker 1: regret it because I know I don't think so I
Speaker 1: don't either, but I'll admit, you know, there might be
Speaker 1: a scenario where it's just wishful thinking on my end.
Speaker 1: But that's why I kept reiterating that it'd be different if,
Speaker 1: like he was viewed as this can't miss prospect, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He was viewed as maybe the fourth or
Speaker 1: fifth best quarterback in a quarterback class.
Speaker 2: That's not elite by any means.
Speaker 1: So you know when you're drafting guys that are rayed
Speaker 1: that that you know because mel Kiper is the guy
Speaker 1: who had him as a first round talent and some
Speaker 1: others did, but a lot of the NFL told us
Speaker 1: that they didn't see him that way because they took
Speaker 1: quarterbacks ahead of him, right, So that tells you what
Speaker 1: they thought of him.
Speaker 2: So you could take away the whole.
Speaker 1: Deon Sanders should or Sanders component of like you know,
Speaker 1: all the baggage that comes with that, and you know
Speaker 1: they looked at him as a guy that they're drafting
Speaker 1: to be a backup. Sometimes it didn't play out that way,
Speaker 1: but like Sanders is also somebody that, like I think,
Speaker 1: you would probably expect it to be a disaster as
Speaker 1: far as him embracing being a backup, Like I think
Speaker 1: he could walk into Kansas City and we'd all think,
Speaker 1: is this guy serious? But there's no doubt, like he
Speaker 1: would probably act as if he's going to take the
Speaker 1: job and that he's better than Patrick Mahomes because that's
Speaker 1: just their personality.
Speaker 2: That's just what they do, you know.
Speaker 1: And it was almost like these guys are something wrong
Speaker 1: with these guys. And what I mean is like Colorado,
Speaker 1: they would get beat by six touchdowns seemingly and they
Speaker 1: would still be bouncing around and yap and as if
Speaker 1: they won, they were up twenty and you know, after
Speaker 1: the game, they'd still be posting stuff on social media.
Speaker 1: Like the video that Oregon did was the most telling
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen about about Colorado and the program
Speaker 1: as far as how they how they sort of, you know,
Speaker 1: carry themselves without any real reason to carry themselves that way,
Speaker 1: as far as just being arrogant because it wasn't just
Speaker 1: the Dan Lanning quote, which was awesome. You know, they're
Speaker 1: playing for clicks, we're playing for wins and that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, which is true. But the Oregon like cinematic
Speaker 1: video they put out that showed like the before the
Speaker 1: you know, the the the coin toss midfield, like they
Speaker 1: had cameras close enough, they probably had players miked up
Speaker 1: because you could hear Colorado talking reckless noise, like just
Speaker 1: talking crazy trash as they're getting blown out, and it
Speaker 1: just like that's just not only is that a bad look,
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know how that's possible, Like how
Speaker 1: do you have Like I just think it speaks to
Speaker 1: the culture as far as like they don't you know,
Speaker 1: they want to win and they got talent, but really
Speaker 1: it's just about no matter what the result is, we're
Speaker 1: going to carry ourselves.
Speaker 2: This is we're just we're.
Speaker 1: Elite, we're divas, and you know it works clearly, and
Speaker 1: I don't mean like it works as far as like
Speaker 1: success on a football field, but Deon Sanders and his
Speaker 1: son are proof that, like they've got a gift to
Speaker 1: always be you know, talked.
Speaker 2: About good or bad.
Speaker 1: They're going to stay in the news and you know,
Speaker 1: I mean hell, I've talked about him a ton, just
Speaker 1: because you know it's it's the biggest talking point seemingly
Speaker 1: in sports the last couple of weeks is what's going
Speaker 1: to happen with Seidel'd Sanders in the draft? And then
Speaker 1: we saw what happened, and then of course it became
Speaker 1: an even bigger thing than most expected. All right, where
Speaker 1: we get to our next break, Let's hit another Derby
Speaker 1: profile from the one and only Jody Dimmling.
Speaker 3: Now look at the Kentucky Derby field one by one,
Speaker 3: Tis Tastic.
Speaker 4: Louisiana Derby winner Tis Tastic. We'll try to get Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame trainer Steve asbu Soon, the North American leader
Speaker 4: in victories, into the Kentucky Derby winner circle for the
Speaker 4: first time. The Dark Bay or Brown son of Tis
Speaker 4: the Law, the first crop of the Tis of the Law,
Speaker 4: who was second in twenty twenty. His Tastic was a
Speaker 4: three hundred and thirty five thousand dollars purchase at the
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three Keenly in its September Yearling sale be
Speaker 4: written by Joel Rosario, who has won for thirteen in
Speaker 4: the derby. He won aboard Orb in two thousand and thirteen,
Speaker 4: as Musin is O for twenty six in the Derby.
Speaker 4: He will also run Publisher in this year's Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 4: Ass Musen has three runner up finishes Epicenter in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two, Looking at Lee in twenty seventeen and Narrow
Speaker 4: in two thousand and eleven. Tis Tastic won his first
Speaker 4: career race and his second career start back on August
Speaker 4: twenty ninth at Kentucky Downs in an allowance race. He
Speaker 4: then won the Kentucky Downs Juvenile Miles Stakes. Just about
Speaker 4: a week and a half later. He finished second to
Speaker 4: Sovereignty in the Street Sense Stakes at Churchill Downs on
Speaker 4: October the twenty seventh. He was third in the Kentucky
Speaker 4: Jockey Club Stakes at Churchill Downs. On November the thirtieth,
Speaker 4: his Task Tick began his three year old campaign with
Speaker 4: a third place finish in the Southwest Stakes at Oakland Park.
Speaker 4: He was fifth in the Rebel Stakes. Ask Newson then
Speaker 4: shipped him to the fair Grounds where he got rolling
Speaker 4: late and won the Louisiana Derby by more than two
Speaker 4: links back on March twenty second. Ask Newson has had
Speaker 4: some really good horses that he's brought to the Kentucky
Speaker 4: Derby and he likes his chances with Tis Tastick.
Speaker 5: He's a horse that gave us a great thrill when
Speaker 5: in twice in eight days at Kentucky Downs. So you know,
Speaker 5: not only has he got talent, he's got an attitude
Speaker 5: that would allow allow you to run him twice in
Speaker 5: eight days and something like that. I mean, he's just
Speaker 5: extremely tough. Louisiana Derby I think gave him an opportunity
Speaker 5: to show what he can do over this a significant
Speaker 5: amount of ground at him out on three sixteenths. I
Speaker 5: think the difference in him is the ground how far
Speaker 5: he gets to go when we were excited about the
Speaker 5: pace that appears to be signed on in the Derby.
Speaker 4: Louisiana Derby winner Tis Tastick.
Speaker 3: Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 3: Sports Talk seven nine day.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would be okay if this was played
Speaker 1: on the show every day, but six still Rodriguez's Sugarman
Speaker 1: is being played because it was my horse and it
Speaker 1: was a great story as far as how at least
Speaker 1: for me, I mean the story six through Rodriguez a
Speaker 1: story is great as we've discussed throughout the week, but
Speaker 1: it was an obvious reason for me to just lock
Speaker 1: in and say, okay, this is my Derby pick, because
Speaker 1: first of all, it's it's you know, I'm not when
Speaker 1: it comes to looking at things that a lot of
Speaker 1: people look at. I wouldn't even know how to do that.
Speaker 1: But we just found out during the break breaking news
Speaker 1: that Rodriguez has scratched and will not be in the derby,
Speaker 1: So Backward's going to have just one horse in the field,
Speaker 1: and uh, the departure the scratch of Rodriguez now has
Speaker 1: besa I may not be saying that correct, but uh,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: It's ba baisa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds right because I feel like I've heard
Speaker 1: somebody mention that if somebody does scratch, that would be
Speaker 1: the horse that gets in. And here we are, and
Speaker 1: it sounds like there's like real belief that this this
Speaker 1: horse could compete. So I, uh, I'm bummed about Rodriguez,
Speaker 1: I really am and it and I you know, obviously
Speaker 1: it's it's the right decision, but you know, it would
Speaker 1: have been cool to see that horse win, just because
Speaker 1: you know, I probably was a little bit over the
Speaker 1: top and probably talked about it more than people care.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you that the story behind uh behind
Speaker 1: the name there is is just insane. It's it's six
Speaker 1: Stough Rodriguez, who American musician who?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Again, we don't need to get into it, but you
Speaker 1: know that was my horse and I felt confident and
Speaker 1: now it's now it's scratched, and now I got to
Speaker 1: regroup here. Now I got to figure out who else
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, uh gonna you know, ride with. You're all
Speaker 1: in on what Sandman? Is that? Right? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exit light in or night? Yeah, I just go that.
Speaker 2: That's good. I mean, it's gotta be one of the favorites,
Speaker 2: right it is.
Speaker 6: I'm listen Metallica.
Speaker 2: That concert's the best I've ever seen in person. I
Speaker 2: love them. I love the horse. It's just it's perfect.
Speaker 2: Sleep with one eye open, baby, sovereignty. Is that how
Speaker 2: you say that?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: That I do like that horse too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was so locked in on on Rodriguez, I didn't
Speaker 1: even really look at much of anything, just because I
Speaker 1: was like, I will, hey, you know, this is this,
Speaker 1: this is clearly the one I want to I want
Speaker 1: to go with.
Speaker 6: But you still have Toby Key's horse, that you like, Yeah,
Speaker 6: actually have a friend that works in the training that
Speaker 6: works with helping like hot walk him. Okay, that that
Speaker 6: horse like there, it's her dad owns like the Barn,
Speaker 6: I think or something like that.
Speaker 2: And what was the name of that one? It was
Speaker 2: Render Judgment, Render Judgment.
Speaker 1: Yes, thirty to one odds it looks like so maybe
Speaker 1: I do roll with that one.
Speaker 6: That barn won the Derby last year. I think they
Speaker 6: won the Oaks and the Derby last year.
Speaker 1: So you heard me talk yesterday about my It's pretty random.
Speaker 1: But some guys I grew up around and one I
Speaker 1: went to school with, they're into horse racing. Their family
Speaker 1: the Cassies. Do you know that the trainer for Sandman
Speaker 1: is Mark Cassie. So yes, I may have to jump
Speaker 1: in on that one.
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 1: Somebody gave me a hard time yesterday for not mentioning
Speaker 1: the uh, the Cassies having some representation in the Derby,
Speaker 1: because you know that those are my guys. But you know,
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't even realize until a little bit later
Speaker 1: in the week. So Sandman is going to be It's
Speaker 1: something I do, you know, something with as far as
Speaker 1: a wager, But yeah, I don't know, I'm just bummed
Speaker 1: about Rodriguez.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I was starting to fall for Rodriguez. I
Speaker 6: went and told my fiance about it at the track
Speaker 6: when we were where there for Tuesday, and I these
Speaker 6: a little buzz going, hey baby, you want to hear
Speaker 6: a trivial fact about this horse. And then I spewed
Speaker 6: everything that you told me about because it's a wild story.
Speaker 6: It's a great story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate it. But this is from Tom Ryan
Speaker 1: on Twitter. It looks like he is the managing partner
Speaker 1: of SF Racing along with Bob Baffort, and he says,
Speaker 1: out of abundance of caution, we have made a very
Speaker 1: tough decision to scratch our derby horse, Rodriguez. He has
Speaker 1: a small but slightly sensitive foot brewis that will need
Speaker 1: a few more days. Therefore, we are resetting our plans
Speaker 1: and we'll target him for the Preakness. So I've now
Speaker 1: become interested in the Preaknas just to see if Rodriguez
Speaker 1: can get healthy and go out there and.
Speaker 2: You know, and get it done. Just want to see
Speaker 2: him run once.
Speaker 1: Which horse do you feel like it has been like
Speaker 1: talked about the absolute least because you know lux or Cafe,
Speaker 1: like that's got decent odds, it looks like, but I've
Speaker 1: not heard anybody talk about that, like, yeah.
Speaker 6: Because that's a japan horse that everybody is just kind
Speaker 6: of like iffy on.
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you know, again, I said, I
Speaker 1: don't want to make it sound as if I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm giving you guys a take, because I don't
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know, but it does sound as if those
Speaker 1: that are in the horse racing world they do believe
Speaker 1: that jet that, you know, the japan will have a
Speaker 1: Derby winner at some point, just because they've you know,
Speaker 1: like they've they've made enough, but they've they've clearly had
Speaker 1: had some real presence in horse racing in recent years.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Chunk of Gold, I mean, I haven't I
Speaker 1: know nothing about that one.
Speaker 6: Doesn't that sound like a Derby winner though?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cole battle leg M, so Render Judgment is the
Speaker 1: Toby Keith horse. I can get down with that.
Speaker 2: It's next best story.
Speaker 1: I think Clynn Mohawk's a great name. I just don't
Speaker 1: know a whole lot about you know, the story behind it.
Speaker 1: You can show them, Yeah, and then let's see final gambit.
Speaker 1: Don't know much about that one. That one brad Cox though,
Speaker 1: and he's certainly had momentum in recent years.
Speaker 2: Who brad Cox. Oh yeah, Louisville, Louisville legend.
Speaker 6: There's also another one Burnham Square didn't get scratched it
Speaker 6: it's still think so yeah.
Speaker 2: I twelve the one odds. Decent odds there.
Speaker 6: I like Burnham Square.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't talked any about the Oaks. I don't
Speaker 1: know if if I mean, I could be wrong again
Speaker 1: because I'm not one that would be keeping up with
Speaker 1: this as much as others. But I feel like usually
Speaker 1: by now you hear a lot more about the Oaks
Speaker 1: field and I don't. I couldn't name a horse in
Speaker 1: the Oaks. But again that's probably you know, just me.
Speaker 1: But it looks like right now, according to uh, the
Speaker 1: latest odds, the uh, let's see who is the favorite
Speaker 1: right now? Good cheer, I think, And that's a brad
Speaker 1: Cox horse there. So yeah, the Oaks, you know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't it's a it's a big race within you know,
Speaker 1: the sport, it seems, but man, it just it's a
Speaker 1: distant second compared to the Derby, which for good reason,
Speaker 1: because the Derby's you know, it's the freaky Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 2: It's that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: But yeah, hopefully mother nature decides to be nice, because
Speaker 1: right now it doesn't look great. I'm gonna check real
Speaker 1: quick to see if there's any kind of an update,
Speaker 1: because I need somebody to do at least lie to
Speaker 1: me and tell me, hey, there's a chance that you know,
Speaker 1: the rain holds off. There's a chance that maybe you know,
Speaker 1: it just misses us. What are some other things people
Speaker 1: say when they just want to lie to themselves about
Speaker 1: bad weather that's on the way. I have a friend
Speaker 1: who I mean, he has no background in meteorology, but
Speaker 1: he will absolutely find whatever way he can to tell you,
Speaker 1: not even like to bag on the meteorologists, but just
Speaker 1: to like, oh, yeah, it looks like it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be little pop up shower.
Speaker 2: We'll be fine. We're sitting in a hurricane.
Speaker 1: Like. He'll always find a way to to just try
Speaker 1: to convince himself that that and everybody.
Speaker 2: Else show yeah, oh it's just some light. Yet we
Speaker 2: actually need a little bit of this rain. But it'll
Speaker 2: be out of the way soon, Yet we need this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's actually cool to off, hadn't it, Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even mind this ring because now I'm actually
Speaker 1: kind of cooled off a little bit, like he'll he's
Speaker 1: optimistic in a way I did not know possible when
Speaker 1: it comes to too bad way with him in the group. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I was clowning him, you know, in a
Speaker 1: playful ways, my friend. And but he was on our
Speaker 1: trip us to Navarre Beach for spring break and we
Speaker 1: had bad weather, as I discussed, and I remember asking
Speaker 1: him like, you know, like what.
Speaker 2: Basically, why do you lie to you?
Speaker 1: Like, why do you like, why don't you just accept it,
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be it's gonna be bad weather? And
Speaker 1: he was like, honestly, I don't even look at the forecast.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean He's like, you just say.
Speaker 1: I was like, you just make stuff up about like
Speaker 1: it being better, and he was like, well yeah, and
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm right.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, well fair enough. But he said something that.
Speaker 1: Like we need to look at the forecast, I think,
Speaker 1: because we need to know like what we need to
Speaker 1: wear for the day, right, or you know, are we
Speaker 1: gonna be able to cut the grass?
Speaker 2: Do we need to cut the grass now?
Speaker 1: Because for the next four days it's gonna rain like
Speaker 1: things like that, but like we can't change it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we can't, like there's nothing
Speaker 1: we can do about it. And we know that the
Speaker 1: people who tell us what's what they expect to happen,
Speaker 1: I mean even they would tell you if there's no
Speaker 1: perfect way to do it, So like maybe it would
Speaker 1: be like maybe if you just never thought about the
Speaker 1: weather and you just you lived your life and accepted
Speaker 1: whatever Mother Nature decided to give you each and every day,
Speaker 1: Like maybe it would be maybe you'd be better off.
Speaker 1: Although I think it's impossible to not have that, like
Speaker 1: not have that impact your morale. I mean, there's areas
Speaker 1: of Alaska I think it is that at certain times
Speaker 1: in the year, for like months, they don't get any daylight.
Speaker 2: It stays dark.
Speaker 1: And then there's also stretches throughout the year where it
Speaker 1: never gets it never gets dark and it stays light
Speaker 1: but like during the and it makes total sense. There
Speaker 1: was a show I used to watch a lot called
Speaker 1: Alaskan State Troopers. Again, I've watched a lot of crime
Speaker 1: shows and jail shows and whatnot law enforcement just to
Speaker 1: keep myself comfortable, a comfortable fear of law enforcement, just
Speaker 1: to make sure I never end up in jail, because
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Think I would do well there.
Speaker 1: But they were describing an area that they were the
Speaker 1: state troopers were having to take a helicopter out to
Speaker 1: because that's the only way to get there, and that
Speaker 1: in this area for like three or four months, it
Speaker 1: stays dark completely and people lose their minds, like you know,
Speaker 1: they become depressed, they drink themselves to death sometimes and
Speaker 1: it's awful and it's sad. But like I do think
Speaker 1: if you didn't see daylight and it was just dark.
Speaker 1: I mean, that would be a sad existence, would it not.
Speaker 1: So the weather matters, you know, you can't control it,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're all just at the mercy of
Speaker 1: Mother Nature. Whatever she decides to do. That's that's just
Speaker 1: the way it is. But you know, I just wish
Speaker 1: she'd give us a little bit of a break here,
Speaker 1: because she's been hard on us. Man this, as I
Speaker 1: said at the beginning of the show, I mean, we've
Speaker 1: had in the today, we've officially completed the first four
Speaker 1: months of twenty twenty five, and I maybe this is
Speaker 1: a recency thing, maybe it's you know, dramatic, but I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like these have been the first.
Speaker 2: This is the worst.
Speaker 1: For this is the worst four month stretch we've had
Speaker 1: since I can you know, I can remember, just because
Speaker 1: I mean, we've had a really brutal winter with a
Speaker 1: lot of snow, a lot of cold weather, and a
Speaker 1: ton of rain, flooding tornadoes, and you know, just give us,
Speaker 1: just give us a break on Derby Day, that's all.
Speaker 1: If we don't ask for much, do we? I mean
Speaker 1: I don't think we do.
Speaker 2: So all right, let's do this. Let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll come back on the other side, and here's some
Speaker 1: more Derby profiles and put some finishing touches here on
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Speaker 1: So initially I was surprised by this, but I guess
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be at all given the behavior. So one
Speaker 1: of the biggest stories this week has been the kerfuffle,
Speaker 1: if you will, between Tyre's Halliburton's father and Jannes Ante
Speaker 1: de Counpo on Tuesday evening after the Bucks were eliminated
Speaker 1: by the Pacers, and again, like that was I mean,
Speaker 1: the biggest loser in the whole thing, in every way
Speaker 1: was was Tyre's Halliburton's dad. And I think there's a
Speaker 1: there's an element to him, like just being a really
Speaker 1: support dad that maybe some people wouldn't view it as
Speaker 1: being such a jerk, but like it was. I mean
Speaker 1: it was not only was it something that like he
Speaker 1: has no business doing, he has no business even being
Speaker 1: there in that spot, but also like he took away
Speaker 1: people remembering that his son, who was a really good player,
Speaker 1: just had like his best moment as an NBA player
Speaker 1: in the playoffs by willing his team to a victory
Speaker 1: to advance past the Milwaukee Bucks. Well, the Pacers have
Speaker 1: now decided to ban his dad from attending home and
Speaker 1: road games for the foreseeable future. Are you surprised by that, Austin, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that's a lot. Yeah, well I think, I
Speaker 1: mean what really stern warning may have been sufficient, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what really, Like I guess again, what he did
Speaker 1: is not something you really ever see. I mean, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, like he was nobody really knew
Speaker 1: who he was. Halliburton is kind of viewed as kind
Speaker 1: of a you know, corny guy tos some but like
Speaker 1: he's not viewed as somebody who's like an issue as
Speaker 1: far as like behavior or anything like that. In fact,
Speaker 1: I don't think he could have handled it any better
Speaker 1: after the game. But you know, he's the franchise player
Speaker 1: for the Pacers, and you typically this day and age,
Speaker 1: want to keep your franchise players happy and you want
Speaker 1: to do whatever you can, especially in a market like Indy.
Speaker 1: I'm a Pacers fan. I think that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why we're going to always have a tough time
Speaker 1: getting over the hump and being one of the best
Speaker 1: teams in the NBA, because he's just you know, now
Speaker 1: with the players having all the power, they go to
Speaker 1: bigger markets, and you know, they they don't want to
Speaker 1: be in a place like Indy if they could go
Speaker 1: to LA or New York or Boston or something like that. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, Tyre's Halliburton was pretty pretty upfront, and I
Speaker 1: think he was sincere in saying that, like he spoke
Speaker 1: to his dad and he didn't think his dad was
Speaker 1: in the right and you know, he'll continue to address it,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, I just looking at it from
Speaker 1: a basketball standpoint, Like the Pacers just basically told their
Speaker 1: franchise player, a guy who they probably see is the
Speaker 1: future of their franchise, his dad can't come to any
Speaker 1: games home.
Speaker 2: Or away for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 1: Which, again, you understand the action, you understand why they're
Speaker 1: taking some type of action, but that does seem a
Speaker 1: little Again, I can't say that they're wrong in doing it.
Speaker 1: It's just because I feel like, you know, you would
Speaker 1: be a little bit more mindful of how you punish
Speaker 1: him or how you know, he's not being punished, but
Speaker 1: he kind of is right. Like, I'd be shocked if
Speaker 1: Halliburton is like happy that they're doing this. And imagine
Speaker 1: like if he's a pro and he's you know, truly
Speaker 1: like understanding of the situation, he wouldn't. He probably would
Speaker 1: get it and say it sucks. But look, my dad
Speaker 1: did what he did. But you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't see things that way. I mean again, I
Speaker 1: I do. I wouldn't have even judged him a whole
Speaker 1: lot if he defended, like maybe not defended his dad,
Speaker 1: but like he he didn't have to. I think be
Speaker 1: as upfront about like you know, we were in the wrong.
Speaker 2: Sorry. I mean again, that's the right thing to do.
Speaker 1: I just I think your father, especially if you're close
Speaker 1: with your dad, they could do some things that are
Speaker 1: real bad and you'll find a way to maybe not
Speaker 1: justify it, but like not really you know, against you.
Speaker 2: It's you, it's your you know, it's your loved when's
Speaker 2: your family.
Speaker 1: You're gonna you know, there's certain things that there's certain
Speaker 1: people that no matter what they do, you may understand
Speaker 1: that there's consequences and they deserve whatever repercussion comes their way.
Speaker 2: But like it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Hard not to love them and support them and want
Speaker 1: it to not be the way that it is. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that that just came in a little bit earlier. That
Speaker 1: they're done with his dad for the foreseeable future. All Right,
Speaker 1: we're out of time, you guys, Enjoy your evening. Let's
Speaker 1: let's hope that mother nature cooperates these next two days.
Speaker 2: We shall see