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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to
Speaker 2: kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there over
Speaker 2: the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, Damn,
Speaker 2: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence, and name was dead once you hit
Speaker 2: the ground. I didn't see any cars. All I saw
Speaker 2: was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are
Speaker 2: you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around
Speaker 2: out here? Did you see what it was? It was
Speaker 2: enough out here. Look, I'm new to one going now
Speaker 2: and I don't need anything. I don't want to go
Speaker 2: out today. Hello, hit the boddy out here?
Speaker 3: What quin?
Speaker 2: I'm out there? It's thought up a bit about sixty nine.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Easy ann out there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm walking right head and we are live. Hello everybody,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us at three pm
Speaker 1: on a random Thursday afternoon. You never know when we're
Speaker 1: gonna pop in or what we might do here on
Speaker 1: Sasquatch Odyssey, paired with mythical legends and behind tall trees,
Speaker 1: we've got all kinds of stuff going on. Daniel, what's
Speaker 1: going on with you today?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: I'm very well mate. I'm looking forward to this podcast
Speaker 4: me too.
Speaker 1: You have got quite the lineup. I just showed up
Speaker 1: at the last minute and punched a few buttons, but
Speaker 1: you put this round table together. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Introduce who we got on the podcast today, man.
Speaker 4: Before I get into our guests, we have some very special.
Speaker 5: Co hosts joining me and Brian.
Speaker 6: Hi.
Speaker 4: Welcome to this stage. My mother and partner in crime,
Speaker 4: Jill Roberts. That is how are you non?
Speaker 7: Yes, so really good?
Speaker 5: Thank you you both thought right. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Brian's tired and may fall to sleep during this podcast.
Speaker 4: So next on stage is our other co host who
Speaker 4: is going to be helping us out today from behind
Speaker 4: tall trees, Miss Gwendoline Parcell.
Speaker 5: Hi, everybody, Gwen. How are you? Busy?
Speaker 3: As usual?
Speaker 8: Nine many things to do and not enough time to
Speaker 8: do them more.
Speaker 1: It's so good to see you from behind the trees.
Speaker 8: It's awesome, isn't it.
Speaker 1: You normally just peque but you got your whole persona
Speaker 1: out from behind the trees, so we appreciate.
Speaker 4: It, the whole of you being Now I'm going to
Speaker 4: start by bringing our guests in. Now, someone who we
Speaker 4: all know and love, the muscle himself, mister Ryan RPG Golumbaski.
Speaker 9: It's good to be with my family. I wish we
Speaker 9: all live closer, same old stuff. I am watching all
Speaker 9: four kids today by myself, so.
Speaker 4: We may have a few extra visitors next on stage,
Speaker 4: have several people in cowboy hats today. But I met
Speaker 4: this guy a couple of months ago. Mister Lao Blackburn.
Speaker 10: Hello from nexous.
Speaker 5: How are you mate?
Speaker 11: I'm doing good.
Speaker 5: Next on the stage.
Speaker 4: He lives in Alaska and we have him come into
Speaker 4: the crypto conference.
Speaker 5: You came next year.
Speaker 4: We can't believe these come in from Alaska and Killerpick.
Speaker 4: But mister DJ Brewster, Hey Dj, how things. I've just
Speaker 4: got done with my shift at work, doing pretty good.
Speaker 4: We have two more amazing guests. Now, this guest I'm
Speaker 4: about to bring on. Everyone keeps mistaking for Lal Blackburn,
Speaker 4: including my mom. Please, welcome to the stage, mister ken Gerhard.
Speaker 10: This proves that we're two different people.
Speaker 6: This is proof right here right.
Speaker 5: We have one final guest to bring on now.
Speaker 4: This guest is a legendary in himself the Sierra Sounds.
Speaker 4: Please welcome to the stage, mister Ron moorehead.
Speaker 5: This is our round. Say well.
Speaker 4: Me and Brian planned to do it once every other
Speaker 4: month until me and Brian realize that's way too much work.
Speaker 5: So Brian, oh to you, my friend.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get everybody started. Everybody's got questions of their
Speaker 1: own about Bigfoot, but I want to get it kicked
Speaker 1: off today and we'll go around the table and let
Speaker 1: everybody chime in on this. This is something that's came up.
Speaker 1: I host multiple podcasts, but one of the other shows
Speaker 1: that I do is called that Bigfoot Podcast. And Wayne
Speaker 1: and I my cost over there, we're talking about this recently.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot that seems to be new for me,
Speaker 1: at least in Bigfoot. If you google what's new in
Speaker 1: Bigfoot twenty twenty four, there are very few things that
Speaker 1: come up. There's things that have happened in the past
Speaker 1: decade or so. You get the Colorado train video that
Speaker 1: pops up. You get Sasquatch Sunset, the movie that came
Speaker 1: out earlier this summer. If you google and look at
Speaker 1: what's in research in Bigfoot now, there's not a lot
Speaker 1: that's new I want to get your opinion on this.
Speaker 1: What do you guys see We'll go around the horn
Speaker 1: as it is here on the screen. We'll start with Lyle.
Speaker 1: What have you seen, Lyle in the last decade. Any
Speaker 1: advancements significant as far as technology methodology that you've seen
Speaker 1: that has impacted bigfoot research for you are just in
Speaker 1: general over the last decade.
Speaker 10: It certainly changed a lot over the last decade as
Speaker 10: far as how we get reports and just the massive
Speaker 10: amount of information that's out there. Back in the day,
Speaker 10: it was only so many podcasts. Now there are tons
Speaker 10: of them with weekly updates and so many witnesses. As
Speaker 10: far as technology, we always hinge point on the fact
Speaker 10: that sooner or later technology will catch up and there
Speaker 10: we will have the final ingredient. We need to prove
Speaker 10: this definitively, but a big pot of cryptids in general
Speaker 10: just seem to stay one step ahead no matter what.
Speaker 10: But certainly things like thermal video has added to this.
Speaker 10: Some years ago, you didn't have that. Now we have
Speaker 10: thermal video, better audio perhaps than Ron would have had
Speaker 10: back in the seventies. There are better tools, but it's
Speaker 10: just more things that say there's something out there. But
Speaker 10: we still can't pinpoint it, even using the technology. And
Speaker 10: also I think it's become a problem because especially with
Speaker 10: AI and stuff, it's so hard down to discern between
Speaker 10: what is real and what is it. You've always dealt
Speaker 10: with hoaxers and people with pictures and stuff, but now
Speaker 10: it's just a barrage of the train video. It's not
Speaker 10: just the Patterson Gimblin film. Now it's just all of
Speaker 10: these different ones that create this confusing white noise of stuff.
Speaker 10: So as far as what's new, it's almost like the
Speaker 10: same thing. You have new researchers coming on. Daniel comes on,
Speaker 10: he adds his perspectives and fresh view and enthusiasm. So
Speaker 10: I think that what's new is it's become increasingly hard
Speaker 10: to navigate technology, white noise, and the massive amount of
Speaker 10: Bigfoot information there is, which may suggest in some ways
Speaker 10: that these creeds are literally running a muck. But I
Speaker 10: think it's just now that there's a central focus of
Speaker 10: people reporting things, and a lot of times things with
Speaker 10: no substance, So it becomes harder for us rectify between
Speaker 10: what is good and what is to follow up on
Speaker 10: and what is to be dismissed. And then in some
Speaker 10: ways can be tiring for us to weave through that.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 10: Technology is both an advantage and a disadvenge what's a
Speaker 10: you Ryan RPG Goingbeskie? What about technology? What have you
Speaker 10: seen over the last decade.
Speaker 9: One of the things I'd hit is, I'm like middle
Speaker 9: age here, I feel like monks. This group is reality
Speaker 9: TV finding Bigfoot. I think that put more eyes and
Speaker 9: brought more interest to the seeing and maybe the environments.
Speaker 6: We live in the fear culture, in my opinion, there's
Speaker 6: always a war, there's always something to fear.
Speaker 9: So Bigfoot is a wonderful monster. I call Bigfoot the
Speaker 9: American monster. I think reality TV one of the benefits.
Speaker 9: Just like texts, he was saying, some of it's bad,
Speaker 9: some of it's good. It's brought more people interested in
Speaker 9: It's put more people in the woods, and it's really
Speaker 9: only a matter of time because like, why was Ron successful?
Speaker 6: In my very humble opinion, he Roger Patterson. He went
Speaker 6: where most of us don't go. He went far.
Speaker 9: And now if we do that, if we repeat that
Speaker 9: but with better cameras, then it will happen.
Speaker 6: Eventually.
Speaker 9: You're going to need a little bit of luck in
Speaker 9: some research but you should be able to get it done.
Speaker 9: That's hopefully my next major expedition is to go really
Speaker 9: remote with some solid tech. Now, what I would love
Speaker 9: to bring, which I think would be a game changer,
Speaker 9: is just imagine this. You pick a section of woods,
Speaker 9: a bunch of sightings, you happen to get there a
Speaker 9: week after it's happened. You map out all of the woods,
Speaker 9: and then you get one of those racing drone guys. Listen,
Speaker 9: I'm not a tech guy at all. I'm a tree hugger.
Speaker 9: I think we need to go in using mind speak
Speaker 9: and whatnot. But if we're talking tech, you get one
Speaker 9: of those dudes that can race a drone that can
Speaker 9: go zero to sixty and one second and can hit
Speaker 9: the spot three hundred yards away faster than you could
Speaker 9: hit it with a bullet.
Speaker 6: Maybe not fast on that, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: That would be a game changer because you'd have it
Speaker 9: mapped out and people say what happens when they run
Speaker 9: into the woods. The reason you map the woods first
Speaker 9: is so when that drone enters, it knows all the
Speaker 9: terms and everything and it can follow it.
Speaker 6: Add a therm to that.
Speaker 9: As I was talking about then I would almost say
Speaker 9: it's unfair unless they are interdimensional or there is another
Speaker 9: level to this which other people will speak more profoundly
Speaker 9: upon in this podcast. But yeah, I'm excited to see
Speaker 9: someone finally use that in the field, and for anyone
Speaker 9: that's going seriously remote and doing the real work like
Speaker 9: Ron did.
Speaker 1: Excellent DJ, what say you about the advancements? What have
Speaker 1: you seen in bigfoot research for you and or just
Speaker 1: in general over the last decade or so.
Speaker 7: Over the last decade, I would agree drones are definitely
Speaker 7: a game changer because they can go to places where
Speaker 7: sometimes you just can't get to. You can go above
Speaker 7: the trees and then come down into the brush and
Speaker 7: everything and be able to see farther and you can
Speaker 7: even see if it's just like a place to even
Speaker 7: hike to for the next point, then it helps out
Speaker 7: a lot, especially in some of that terrain, being able
Speaker 7: to carry some of the audio that Rom's recorded and
Speaker 7: being able to play that in the woods. So that
Speaker 7: was a very intense moment in my life. Oh, definitely
Speaker 7: changed everything. I thought it was very unique. I've never
Speaker 7: seen or heard anybody do that before, so it was
Speaker 7: pretty interesting how everything reacted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the first time I've heard that. There's
Speaker 1: tons of people that have taken the Sierra sounds, or
Speaker 1: at least part of those out and played them and
Speaker 1: gotten different results. We could probably do an entire show
Speaker 1: on just that. Ken, What about you? What have you
Speaker 1: seen change for you? And or research in general over
Speaker 1: the last decade.
Speaker 12: I feel like we have been chasing our tails for
Speaker 12: a while. That does seem to be the case. For
Speaker 12: whatever reason, I guess one could speculate that these animals
Speaker 12: are maybe becoming fewer in number. There's a lot of
Speaker 12: the forestation, habitat loss, and stuff going on right now.
Speaker 12: But the most promising project I was involved with was
Speaker 12: last year I accompanied doctor Haskell Hart, who was a
Speaker 12: PhD from Harvard. He's squarely debunked the so called catch
Speaker 12: Him Bigfoot DNA study in my opinion. Now, granted, it's
Speaker 12: still expensive, but e DNA is definitely going to be
Speaker 12: our best bet in terms of coming up with definitive proof.
Speaker 12: I joined doctor Hart last year in Oklahoma and we
Speaker 12: took water samples from all the creeks that populate the
Speaker 12: so called are x in Oklahoma, which obviously everyone hears
Speaker 12: is a pretty active bigfoit area. Now School's working with
Speaker 12: a lab in Colorado that's actually affordable for him than
Speaker 12: perhaps most big researchers at this point. But imagine a
Speaker 12: scenario where you have a really good sighting of a
Speaker 12: faskuatch and it leaves a trackway and then you're able
Speaker 12: to extract DNA or soil from right under one of
Speaker 12: those footprints. Now you've got I think the triumvirate of
Speaker 12: proof there, because you've got an eyeweitis observation, physical trace evidence,
Speaker 12: and then if we can come up with DNA that
Speaker 12: gets us in the right neighborhood in terms of some
Speaker 12: type of homin in running around in an area where
Speaker 12: it couldn't be. I think that's going to be pretty definitive. Again,
Speaker 12: I think it's cost prohibitive for most bigfoot researchers. For example,
Speaker 12: Cliff told me that he did some research into this
Speaker 12: in order to get a DNA sequence that puts you
Speaker 12: in the family of great apes. You're talking about maybe
Speaker 12: just a few thousand dollars or less at this point,
Speaker 12: but in order for them to determine that sequences novel
Speaker 12: and does not match any known how mand human, any
Speaker 12: great ape known, and now you're talking six figures, you
Speaker 12: better be darn sure as a bigfoot researcher that you
Speaker 12: have bigfoot DNA.
Speaker 11: If you're going to spend.
Speaker 12: One hundred thousand dollars or more on a DNA test,
Speaker 12: those are my thoughts. I think that's a pretty cool
Speaker 12: technology that's hopefully going to become more affordable to bigfoot
Speaker 12: researchers at large.
Speaker 1: Ron, I think it's safe to say that you probably
Speaker 1: have the most experienced boots on the ground in the
Speaker 1: woods looking for these things. I don't want to date you,
Speaker 1: my friend, but I think that's safe to say. What
Speaker 1: have you seen over the last two decades that has
Speaker 1: changed in bigfoot research? For you are just at large.
Speaker 13: It's just amazing how much more stuff was out there now.
Speaker 13: So you don't know what to believe. Technologists are good,
Speaker 13: You don't know what right eyes producer. We'll all have
Speaker 13: our opinions what they might be and what we think
Speaker 13: they could be. I have mine, But did anything that's
Speaker 13: a big help supposedly? I know other Jedida said, sponsored
Speaker 13: by the National Geographic went up to Bhutan in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 13: got a ed in which they swear was all contaminited
Speaker 13: the metachondria came back human. The same thing toutching there
Speaker 13: points that's two different sources that there's a human. So
Speaker 13: my question, we're going to ask you a question is
Speaker 13: who was there first? Bigfoot or humans? Al Saint Piers
Speaker 13: were the first? Or was big bush first? How far
Speaker 13: back do we go?
Speaker 1: This question that I have upon the screen is something
Speaker 1: that I have been thinking about and talking about for
Speaker 1: the last year or so. I do have plans to
Speaker 1: possibly do some expeditions maybe in twenty twenty five to
Speaker 1: huge horses, because here's the two things. There's two huge
Speaker 1: pieces of evidence out there that just about everybody into
Speaker 1: Bigfoot knows about. The Patterson Gimblin film from sixty seven
Speaker 1: Sierra Sounds. The two two common denominators for both of
Speaker 1: those things for me is how did everybody involved in
Speaker 1: that get to the areas where that was filmed and
Speaker 1: those sounds were recorded? Was on horseback? And I think
Speaker 1: there's something to that. So really quickly, if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go off script as I normally do. Daniel's
Speaker 1: probably cringing, but I want to go off script. It
Speaker 1: just go around for a second and just get some
Speaker 1: really quick feedback from all of you guys on do
Speaker 1: you think there's something too going in on horseback because
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of people are doing that. I
Speaker 1: personally think it has something to do with masking the
Speaker 1: scent of humans on horseback. It's not bipedal, it's quadrupedal
Speaker 1: movement through the woods. There's a whole bunch of things,
Speaker 1: litany of things I think that contribute to that success
Speaker 1: if you were to incorporate horsebacks. If you don't mind,
Speaker 1: let's go around back to Lyle and talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about that. Is that something that you've considered doing, Lyle?
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a good idea? What do you
Speaker 1: think about horseback in general in bigfoot research?
Speaker 11: Yeah, and definitely.
Speaker 10: I was born in Fort Worth, Texas, So horses there
Speaker 10: are something that I've been around all my life. Last year,
Speaker 10: I wouldn't say I went Patterson Gimlin style, but I
Speaker 10: did charter a private horseback ride.
Speaker 11: I don't own.
Speaker 1: Horses, And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to sea.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 10: You have to get the horses from somewhere, but I
Speaker 10: had to charter a guide myself and my girlfriend was
Speaker 10: with me. We took the horses deep into the mountainous
Speaker 10: area of New Mexico and the northern part close to Colorado.
Speaker 10: I have interviewed people there and there have been sightings
Speaker 10: around there, and we took horses deep back hours into
Speaker 10: the woods. So that gave me a real good feel
Speaker 10: about how well this could work. Certainly, like Ryan said,
Speaker 10: if you're going into this habitat, you can't blast in
Speaker 10: there with a group of twenty five people with cars
Speaker 10: and SUVs four wheelers. It just seems the antithesis of
Speaker 10: getting close to them. So I think horses are great.
Speaker 10: On the other hand, I've used canoes a lot in
Speaker 10: the swampy areas around Boggy Creek and Foul We've gone
Speaker 10: in there deep with those canoes, which affords the same
Speaker 10: kind of thing. It's not as natural as a horse
Speaker 10: as a man made item, but we were able to
Speaker 10: navigate in there without using cars and get deep or
Speaker 10: there's literally no foot traffic. No one goes out there
Speaker 10: except maybe the hardiest hunters. Those are good ways. Certainly
Speaker 10: horseback is great. Then again, you get a report from
Speaker 10: some lady driving down a county road who never even
Speaker 10: got out of her car, and it stops right in
Speaker 10: the middle of the road and poses for several moments.
Speaker 10: So then you just can't outthink it.
Speaker 1: Ryan, What say you about the horseback my friend? I
Speaker 1: know that's right up your alley. You like to go
Speaker 1: minimal into the woods most of your research days. Have
Speaker 1: you considered doing the horseback thing? Do you think there's
Speaker 1: some success to be had there?
Speaker 9: Of course, as you pointed out, two of the best
Speaker 9: things that we have received with an our field came
Speaker 9: on horseback. But two things horses expensive as hell. I
Speaker 9: can't afford horse right now, so that's one alembly keeps
Speaker 9: me out too. I produced a show a Mongolia and
Speaker 9: we rode horses for four hours, two hours out pick
Speaker 9: wild strawberries, and two hours back.
Speaker 6: I was chafed and bow legged for two weeks. So
Speaker 6: let me think you if.
Speaker 9: Anybody is serious about riding a horse off to do this,
Speaker 9: because it would take time, you must ride horses pretty
Speaker 9: consistently before you attempted, or else you're going to be
Speaker 9: sore as hecky. With that said, to digress a little
Speaker 9: to what Ron said, what came first bigfoot or humans?
Speaker 9: In my humble opinion. At this moment, there were what
Speaker 9: like fourteen different types or variations of Homo sapien and
Speaker 9: what did the Native Americans all call them? A lost tribe,
Speaker 9: lost brothers. So maybe riding the horse mimics the people
Speaker 9: that they spend thousands of years on the side of.
Speaker 9: You take the Patterson Gimlin footage, you remove the hair,
Speaker 9: and what does it look like. Doesn't look like an
Speaker 9: ape to me. It looks like a really ethnic human.
Speaker 9: So yes, I think horses would work. You damn well
Speaker 9: better prepare your ass to go do something like that.
Speaker 9: And I think we're looking for another variation of a
Speaker 9: human being, and that's why that keeps coming up.
Speaker 1: Can what say you about the horses, my friend?
Speaker 11: Certainly you made a great point.
Speaker 12: One could argue that the some of the best evidence
Speaker 12: we've ever come up with, and there's actually two lines
Speaker 12: of evidence from that incident. We have the Patterson Gillan
Speaker 12: film and then we have the trackway with the ten
Speaker 12: casts by Bob Tipmas. There were definitely horses involved in
Speaker 12: that particular incident, so that is a good argument. One
Speaker 12: could also make the argument that Sasquatches may have a
Speaker 12: curiosity about horses. If you look at the Linn Crabtree
Speaker 12: incident and FOUK and then you have the so called
Speaker 12: big Muddy Monster was checking out circus horses, so they
Speaker 12: may be drawn in to some extent. The only logistical
Speaker 12: issue I would bring up is, and I know Ron
Speaker 12: and his expeditions were probably the exception, but logistically it
Speaker 12: would be difficult, wouldn't it to get horses just some
Speaker 12: of the elevations that I think we all might agree that,
Speaker 12: at least in the mountainous areas like a Pacific Northwest,
Speaker 12: these things do seem to be associated with higher relevations.
Speaker 12: And that's also with regard to the YETI and some
Speaker 12: of the other ones that Ron was talking about. So
Speaker 12: I don't know what type of horses you would need
Speaker 12: or what skill and training to get up to some
Speaker 12: of those areas. Now it would be more easy in
Speaker 12: areas like Lyle's talking about in the eastern US and
Speaker 12: places like Florida, Arkansas maybe or the Appellachians. But yeah,
Speaker 12: good idea also be able to go ahead and address
Speaker 12: Ron's question. Ron's a good friend of mine, but we
Speaker 12: do disagree obviously on some of the possibilities involving Bigfoot.
Speaker 12: But I would say that the timeline I'm looking at
Speaker 12: is probably about six hundred thousand years ago, because that's
Speaker 12: based on new evidence that's the start of the ancient
Speaker 12: Homo sapiens line, but also the timeline where you had
Speaker 12: the extinction or the last known fossil evidence of Paranthropus boisei,
Speaker 12: which I think is a pretty good Bigfoot candidate, since
Speaker 12: it looks exactly like a friggin' sasquatch except it was shorter.
Speaker 12: That's the only difference that was probably the boundary line
Speaker 12: in terms of a species that I think was separate
Speaker 12: us that look like Bigfoot and the evolution of Homo sapiens.
Speaker 12: So we probably have overlapped for at least that amount
Speaker 12: of time six hundred thousand years or so.
Speaker 1: DJ, what say you may and are you guys up
Speaker 1: on horseback there in Alaska? What do you think about
Speaker 1: horseback and bigfoot research in general?
Speaker 3: Overall?
Speaker 7: I think it's great, like everyone's been saying, it's a
Speaker 7: natural thing. It's not making noises like ATVs, UTVs cars trucks. Personally,
Speaker 7: in anywhere I'm from, it wouldn't be very good because
Speaker 7: you have mountains, cliffs in Oceani. It'd be really hard
Speaker 7: to maneuver your horses and those woods up there. I
Speaker 7: think if I ever get a chance to go on
Speaker 7: any of these trips around the country, I would definitely
Speaker 7: love to go. I don't have any experience with horses,
Speaker 7: but I definitely would train first because those would be
Speaker 7: some long rides out in the woods.
Speaker 6: I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 7: I was thinking about it when we're talking about the
Speaker 7: speaker in the Sierra Nevada Sounds. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 7: he was on horseback when he did that. I started
Speaker 7: clicking a little bit. Then you guys brought up the
Speaker 7: question so that great minds think alike.
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, I do something that makes sense.
Speaker 1: It's very rare, especially when it happens live on the air.
Speaker 1: I want to go to Ron. I'm going to change
Speaker 1: this up a little bit for you, Ron, because obviously
Speaker 1: I think you think it's a good idea to take
Speaker 1: horses out, because that's the only way you guys could
Speaker 1: access where you were at the Sierra camp. I want
Speaker 1: to change it up a little bit and ask you this,
Speaker 1: do you think that played a role in the success
Speaker 1: that you guys had with these creatures coming in and
Speaker 1: interacting with you. Do you think it had something to
Speaker 1: do with the horses or do you think there was
Speaker 1: more to that.
Speaker 13: There's more to it. There's a lot of time when
Speaker 13: now we got then we could walk in. That's why
Speaker 13: we're ted barrels up there with the deals. So we're
Speaker 13: gonna store for spaperbacks after carry so much. When the
Speaker 13: way in the worst is can do truth banishful. They
Speaker 13: can let you see a lot better on the way.
Speaker 13: And as long as you got a good horse, you
Speaker 13: know how I arrived. That's important to just a person.
Speaker 13: Horse chirp, it's a trail horse about ricause I think
Speaker 13: there's a lot of trailer can get into the backwards
Speaker 13: in the rough crutch or so or but all. They
Speaker 13: also can trump around at night. They don't know what,
Speaker 13: for sure begger than others. So what you heard was
Speaker 13: amount a horse. I don't think it makes a difference
Speaker 13: for sure has no. I think things like most animals
Speaker 13: could set your energs at your vibration and they know
Speaker 13: who they're doing where, then you got the right in touch.
Speaker 13: I know if you're going to a gun on there
Speaker 13: 'ere guns. But our tenant wasn't to shoot, and it's
Speaker 13: true attack, nothing really aggressive happened. Really horses when we
Speaker 13: or the other I don't think that.
Speaker 11: The people that tried them.
Speaker 9: How do we create some kind of a fund or
Speaker 9: something where we can take all these different people investing
Speaker 9: in all these different directions and pull that money like
Speaker 9: a university. Would we all vote and agree on a
Speaker 9: team that has the funding to try all the things
Speaker 9: we would like to do. We just start doing one
Speaker 9: a year and it's citizen funded.
Speaker 6: How do we really.
Speaker 9: Get the infrastructure needed to do that so that we
Speaker 9: can do, my opinion, real epic research on this subject
Speaker 9: and not just CouchSurfing so to speak. How do we
Speaker 9: put that together? I challenge us to do that as
Speaker 9: a team. And I'm not even saying I get to go,
Speaker 9: but I would love to be a part of it
Speaker 9: and know that I helped create something like that, and hell, yeah,
Speaker 9: I want to go.
Speaker 5: What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Ken?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 12: A few years ago, there was an attempt to create
Speaker 12: an organization that affiliated all of the Bigfoot researchers and
Speaker 12: organizations so that we would share evidence, peer review, and
Speaker 12: work together as more of a team as opposed to
Speaker 12: a segmented it's a shame that didn't manifest. For whatever
Speaker 12: reason we acknowledge. They've always been big personalities in the
Speaker 12: bigfoot field, so it is sometimes hard to get everyone
Speaker 12: on the same page. And of course we've had investors
Speaker 12: starting with Tom Slick back in the nineteen fifties, and
Speaker 12: then Tom Page and Robert Rhines and ericson and all
Speaker 12: these people that have funded put out a lot of money.
Speaker 12: I think the best bet might be to find kind
Speaker 12: of an eccentric, kooky entertainer, because someone like Staying back
Speaker 12: in the eighties was funding an investigation for the Loftness Monster.
Speaker 12: There are a lot of rich people in the world,
Speaker 12: but it's finally that person that kind of has an
Speaker 12: esoteric view of life, like an entertainer, that's willing to say, yeah,
Speaker 12: I'll give you guys ten million dollars to do that.
Speaker 12: Then from there we would just have to work through
Speaker 12: our difference, as I suggested, picking a group of people
Speaker 12: that are willing to work together, and then everyone degrees, okay, yeah,
Speaker 12: those guys can maybe get the job done.
Speaker 6: I just see it like an ushering in.
Speaker 9: A new golden age of exploration, right, So it's almost
Speaker 9: like a rocket launch, and these are the new astronauts
Speaker 9: that are going to get on board and are going
Speaker 9: to go remote to wherever we all agree, and the
Speaker 9: whole world is on the edge of their seats watching
Speaker 9: to see what they bring back.
Speaker 6: I feel like I caught the tail.
Speaker 9: End of that as a kid growing up. And that's
Speaker 9: why I'm fascinated by this stuff. Why I appreciate what
Speaker 9: all you guys do. Like, we're explorers, right, so how
Speaker 9: do we really peque interest? Because at the end of
Speaker 9: the day, if the money's not there and nobody really cares,
Speaker 9: then where does it go.
Speaker 6: It's all of us doing our own thing, which I'm
Speaker 6: happy for everyone. We're all doing well. But let's come together.
Speaker 6: Let's get beatles.
Speaker 5: We'll say you d Jenny, I.
Speaker 7: Don't even know where we're going with this. I'm totally
Speaker 7: excited for this. Digit you're I'll cook for you, guys.
Speaker 7: I'm a professional cooker right now, So all head in
Speaker 7: the woods and healthcarey stuff and I'll cook. I'm all
Speaker 7: about this.
Speaker 5: Now, what say you? Mate?
Speaker 10: And thinking about this question of trying to centralize research,
Speaker 10: you got to think about what came before when people
Speaker 10: were researching things. People back when the YETI research, it
Speaker 10: required funding, and a lot of those things were funded
Speaker 10: by guys who wanted to climb the mountains and they
Speaker 10: promised to send the London newspapers accounts of Yeti's or
Speaker 10: anything else they found, and of course the YETI was
Speaker 10: a byproduct of that. If you're going to hike up
Speaker 10: Mount Everest and you happen to see it YETI, wither
Speaker 10: you go, that's great. Two and one the explorers sending
Speaker 10: out Percy Faucet to the Amazon. All these things cost money.
Speaker 10: If we don't have a Tom Slick, and I hope
Speaker 10: but every listener out there knows who this is because
Speaker 10: it's historical Bigfoot, and YETI research without somebody who were
Speaker 10: saying like we need this millionaire or somebody putting in
Speaker 10: or a rich rock star, which that's not me. But
Speaker 10: there are ways to do it. And I think you
Speaker 10: have the crowd funny thing now and it could be organized,
Speaker 10: but there in people want something for their money. Some
Speaker 10: people will give certainly, and some people will say, why
Speaker 10: should I give these researchers the funds? So then you
Speaker 10: get that whole thing going where it's hard to get
Speaker 10: everybody on the same page. Well, five hundred of us
Speaker 10: can go in the wood, and I'm not saying it
Speaker 10: should be me. I'm just saying crowdtrunning is a way
Speaker 10: to do it. But you have to offer something in return.
Speaker 10: So it isn't just hey, give us some money, We're
Speaker 10: going to go out and look for bigfoot. If we
Speaker 10: don't find anything, sorry, that's the challenge. It's what you provide,
Speaker 10: especially in a situation like this where most of the time.
Speaker 11: You come up empty handed.
Speaker 10: It's not something like Ron says. You don't just go
Speaker 10: and hey, we're going to You can have high def
Speaker 10: pictures of them when we take them. So there's ways
Speaker 10: to do it, but certainly it takes a lot of
Speaker 10: organization in that person who has at least the time.
Speaker 10: If it's a crowdfunding thing, what do you offer at
Speaker 10: the investors. Because of course, when somebody like Tom Slick
Speaker 10: was investing in bigfoot research, he figured out he had
Speaker 10: the money to spend and he was truly interested in this,
Speaker 10: there would be some benefit because he's the guy who
Speaker 10: funded it. The possibilities are out there to do this,
Speaker 10: but it's super hard because you have to get everybody
Speaker 10: on the same page.
Speaker 4: Before I pass it to our co host when to
Speaker 4: pick who gets the next question. I will pass this
Speaker 4: question to mister cross Alswood. What do you think, buddy.
Speaker 7: Well and to the lottery every week and if it's me,
Speaker 7: if it's our time, then off on chill and sweet Well.
Speaker 9: I love when you said, Kyle, because that's it right.
Speaker 9: We need to team up with an advanced logging team
Speaker 9: and say we're going out there to find if we
Speaker 9: can log this, but if we happen to see Bigfoot,
Speaker 9: send it back, or an advanced drilling team like an
Speaker 9: oil team. Instead of seeing those people as the bad guys,
Speaker 9: maybe they could be the good guys for once.
Speaker 6: That's my two cents.
Speaker 1: I love you all.
Speaker 6: I love this subject.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Brian.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, and then obviously my favorite.
Speaker 5: I will pass it over to Gwen.
Speaker 8: Now Hick, who's next?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, let's start with Lyle.
Speaker 10: I talked about the situation with technology is both our friend.
Speaker 10: We have EDNA, we have drones, we have thermal those tools,
Speaker 10: but then it is not our friend, like AI. How
Speaker 10: do we handle this. I've seen hobbyous AI pictures posted
Speaker 10: in big put groups and people are arguing over them
Speaker 10: as to the veracity of it. It eats up I think,
Speaker 10: valuable time and puts it people at odds the community
Speaker 10: over something that I mean, at least thus far, you
Speaker 10: can pretty well identify an AI. I think it will
Speaker 10: become even harder as it goes. How do we handle
Speaker 10: that and don't look crazy to everybody else right being
Speaker 10: discriminating with what you present as evidence and what we
Speaker 10: consider worthy of our time? How do we handle the
Speaker 10: whole AI thing that's coming on DJ?
Speaker 1: What do you think about AI?
Speaker 7: I think it's scary how fast it's progressing.
Speaker 5: Crazy to think that.
Speaker 7: Robots already and the AI generation apps and stuff like
Speaker 7: that are just coming out so fast it or started
Speaker 7: off totally obvious to question it sometimes.
Speaker 5: Like is that real?
Speaker 7: Or is that it's still in the beginning stages. Basically,
Speaker 7: if you look at how technology has advanced over the
Speaker 7: last twenty years, even it's crazy how it's going to
Speaker 7: be in like ten years, five years from now. I'm
Speaker 7: not a huge fan, but I can see where it
Speaker 7: could be a helzel tool for people who need it
Speaker 7: if they have a disability or something.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm not a huge fan.
Speaker 7: I grew up in the woods in Alaska as simple
Speaker 7: as better in my opinion.
Speaker 13: And.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages. What do you think about
Speaker 1: AI CAN? How has it affected things? How are you
Speaker 1: dealing with it in your research? How do you think
Speaker 1: it's affecting Bigfoot in general?
Speaker 12: At this point as researchers, we just have to disregard
Speaker 12: all alleged photographic evidence period. It's move on from alleged photos, videos,
Speaker 12: or anything of that. Unfortunately, it's just too murky. Why
Speaker 12: are we spending time and resources and things analyzing things
Speaker 12: like photographic evidence that could be AI or photoshopped or whatever.
Speaker 12: It's just a line of evidence. It's no longer fruitful.
Speaker 12: It had its run, I'm afraid. So we have new
Speaker 12: As we talked about new lines of technology, they're emerging now.
Speaker 12: I've been telling people for a long time, and I
Speaker 12: don't ever want to be dismissive because graciously people do
Speaker 12: send me videos and photos all the time.
Speaker 11: I'm sure all of us get them, like what do
Speaker 11: you think of this?
Speaker 12: And I pretty much have a stock answer, which is
Speaker 12: I'm just not an advocate of alleged photog athlete Evans
Speaker 12: could be a bigfoot, which you just can't say. I
Speaker 12: think the exception to that rule would be is have
Speaker 12: a multi witness incident with multiple camera angles or something
Speaker 12: along those lines, then you might have a little bit
Speaker 12: of something to play with. Now, on the other hand,
Speaker 12: I will say that AI might have its applications in
Speaker 12: terms of helping us compile data, run analytical surveys, models
Speaker 12: and projections and things like that, So AI it can
Speaker 12: be it's cool to big for research, But in terms
Speaker 12: of what we were talking a Lyle mentioned initially, with
Speaker 12: photos and videos and things like that, it's not fruitful.
Speaker 12: I think that researchers really need to be at this
Speaker 12: point focusing on if they can afford e DNA at
Speaker 12: least physical trace evidence like casts, footprints and uncle prints whatever,
Speaker 12: and the hairs, equal samples, blood, teeth, bones, that's going
Speaker 12: to be the most useful if we're trying to convince
Speaker 12: the scientific establishment, and that's really the only way that
Speaker 12: becomes the reality is if science finally zoology comes on
Speaker 12: board says okay, yes, we can't refute this.
Speaker 1: Why we're with you, Ken, Did you have a question
Speaker 1: for the rest of the panel.
Speaker 12: Yeah, one of the questions that we're always tired of
Speaker 12: hearing about is where the remains? But I thought it'd
Speaker 12: be fun to focus that down and just throw this
Speaker 12: out to the panel. Why hasn't one been road killed?
Speaker 12: I've traveled all over North America, driven thousands of miles,
Speaker 12: and in wilderness, you've seen, or have heard of from
Speaker 12: other people pretty much every known species at some point
Speaker 12: being hit by a truck or a car, even in
Speaker 12: a remote period. Unfortunately, Sally, it happens all the time.
Speaker 12: So even though I'm convinced that if Bigfoot exists, their
Speaker 12: number of their population is probably in the low thousands,
Speaker 12: they're very rare, but still at some point a truck
Speaker 12: or a car or someone would have hit and killed one. Now,
Speaker 12: I'm aware of a handful of accounts, and I'm sure
Speaker 12: all of you guys could pipe in on this where
Speaker 12: they've been supposedly hit by cars and then just ran
Speaker 12: off into the woods or something. You didn't die. But
Speaker 12: I don't know, what do you guys think? Why haven't
Speaker 12: we seen one of these things roadkilled somewhere?
Speaker 1: Lyle there's a lot of road out in Texas, man,
Speaker 1: What say you about why one of these things hasn't
Speaker 1: ended up underneath an eighteen wheeler.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's actually the better question than where
Speaker 10: the bones becuse if one gets hit, it's falling in
Speaker 10: the road, not out in the middle of the woods,
Speaker 10: or it dies. I mean, surely explain that by saying
Speaker 10: you didn't find bare bones.
Speaker 11: And I'm with Ken.
Speaker 10: The numbers of these creatures are so low that their
Speaker 10: possibility of finding the bones is super low. But even
Speaker 10: if they're low population, still the likelihood of getting hit
Speaker 10: by a car is pretty great. So that's harder to explain.
Speaker 10: And certainly I know it was an account even in
Speaker 10: Texas where supposedly somebody hit on and it ran off,
Speaker 10: scampered into the woods, whether it died or didn't die,
Speaker 10: they at least said they hit it. But you just
Speaker 10: have to chalk it up to luck, I would say,
Speaker 10: and not to say that they haven't been hit. They
Speaker 10: just if it didn't fall in the road and it
Speaker 10: managed to get off the road. And this was a
Speaker 10: rural area, so if you don't find them quickly enough,
Speaker 10: that stuff becomes scattered and returns.
Speaker 6: To the earth, if you will.
Speaker 10: But yeah, that is a hard one to answer. Is
Speaker 10: why we haven't hit one. With all the eighteen wheelers
Speaker 10: and the dudes and trucks down here driving the millions
Speaker 10: of miles of roads.
Speaker 1: I don't know, DJ What say you, man, Why don't
Speaker 1: you think one of these things have been smacked by
Speaker 1: a vehicle.
Speaker 7: I haven't honestly ever even thought of that as this scenario.
Speaker 7: But deer baars they pop up after getting hit by
Speaker 7: a vehicle quite often. If you got something anywhere from
Speaker 7: seven to ten feet tall or bigger, getting hit by
Speaker 7: a vehicle number one do a lot of damage to
Speaker 7: the vehicle. And I'm pretty sure sosquatch would be able
Speaker 7: to take a blow by a vehicle a lot easier
Speaker 7: than an animal. But if you got hit by an
Speaker 7: eighteen wheeler, actually could be on world news or some things.
Speaker 1: I definitely think you're right. I want to be respectful
Speaker 1: of everybody's time, but I want to again go off script.
Speaker 1: I do that often. I want to ask this about
Speaker 1: the collaboration we've been dancing around it. RPG's question was
Speaker 1: all about collaboration. Why can't we get together, spend the
Speaker 1: money in one place, and get this taken care of.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you each about the collaborative efforts. Are
Speaker 1: there collaborative efforts that you're aware of in bigfoot? Because
Speaker 1: here's the thing that's always come up for me. You
Speaker 1: have areas like Area X, you have places like the
Speaker 1: Olympic Project. They do their own things, and those two
Speaker 1: come to mind because they're pretty prolific long term studies
Speaker 1: looking for these creatures. And then you have the BFRO.
Speaker 1: It is the largest Bigfoot organization in the world. Whatever
Speaker 1: you think about what they do, they are the largest organization.
Speaker 1: They're constantly doing expeditions. There's probably a Bigfoot expedition by
Speaker 1: the BFRO every single week of every single year for
Speaker 1: the last decade plus. Then you go to Area X.
Speaker 1: They're having what I consider some extraordinary interactions with these creatures.
Speaker 1: The problem for them is manpower. They can only do
Speaker 1: it for about three months a year. They do it
Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day, seven days a week for
Speaker 1: those three or four months, but the rest of the
Speaker 1: time they're gone. Why aren't we collaborating in the BFRO, say,
Speaker 1: we've got thousands of members that want to go do expeditions.
Speaker 1: We can man Area X for three hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: five days a year twenty four hours a day from
Speaker 1: now until the next five years. Let's get this done right.
Speaker 1: If it's a specimen, let's get some video, let's get
Speaker 1: some whatever. But we're not doing that. Why do you
Speaker 1: think that is? Why aren't there more collaborative efforts? What
Speaker 1: do you think is holding people back? Or am I wrong?
Speaker 1: And there are more collaborative efforts than we know of.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Lyle. Let's say you about the collaborative
Speaker 1: efforts to get this Bigfoot question answered For everybody.
Speaker 10: It faces a few challenges. I was part of the
Speaker 10: Area X team at one time. Was there at the
Speaker 10: genesis of the change from just putting some cameras out
Speaker 10: there to that being the total focus of the Texas
Speaker 10: Bay cert Research Conservancy efforts. I always felt, if anybody's
Speaker 10: going to prove this, it's going to be these guys.
Speaker 10: Many of them are military trained, they were methodical. There
Speaker 10: was a biologist, There was guys like me. They's spent
Speaker 10: the whole life hunting the woods. You had a lot
Speaker 10: of people that were focusing that effort, and yet still
Speaker 10: that didn't generate any proof. And yes, it was limited
Speaker 10: because people have jobs and stuff. You can't just be
Speaker 10: up there twenty four to seven. They did a great job,
Speaker 10: well documented of course, if you can read about all that.
Speaker 10: But I think the challenge is it's always back to
Speaker 10: the money.
Speaker 6: You've got to have.
Speaker 10: Money, even if it's just for the one guy who's
Speaker 10: the organizer, who is going to say this BFRO guy
Speaker 10: is going to be here for this week, and this
Speaker 10: guy here and there, and to keep it under wraps
Speaker 10: so that it doesn't become a circus because the more
Speaker 10: people you know. The AREX thing was let's keep this
Speaker 10: primitive as possible. We can't have hundreds of people up
Speaker 10: here all the time letting people know where it is
Speaker 10: because you compromise your research areat not because you're trying
Speaker 10: to hog it or whatever, keep goople out, but obviously
Speaker 10: if you don't want to run out the thing you're
Speaker 10: looking for. So that's the challenge. But I think it's
Speaker 10: down the money. If you have a central figure, if
Speaker 10: Daniel could use his friendly, fresh and enthusiastic ways to
Speaker 10: organize enough people in one area, and you had the funding,
Speaker 10: you could put people in there and deploy this when
Speaker 10: people would do it.
Speaker 4: If you want that to happen one day, low it
Speaker 4: will happen, don't you worry, and.
Speaker 10: It's just a matter of time and money. If you
Speaker 10: look at other scientific research, archaeology, biological research and things
Speaker 10: they're being funded by online that either expects a payoff
Speaker 10: or a television show, there has to be something you
Speaker 10: give back to them for the money. Typically, unless we
Speaker 10: can find that millionaire out there, or if you win
Speaker 10: the lotteries.
Speaker 1: Keep playing the lottery. Chris can what say you about
Speaker 1: the collaboration, my friend.
Speaker 11: I'm all about collaboration.
Speaker 12: I started out in a group years ago, just broke
Speaker 12: off at some point and did my own thing. I
Speaker 12: have an interesting thought about bigfoot personalities. I'll exclude myself
Speaker 12: in law from this because I don't want to feel
Speaker 12: like we're attacking ourselves here. But have you noticed if
Speaker 12: there's a large percentage of bigfoot researchers or musicians, I
Speaker 12: could name like a dozen off the top of my head,
Speaker 12: Matt Prout, Darry, I'll call your Jester more at musicians,
Speaker 12: we're a funny breed and although we can often collaborate,
Speaker 12: and you can look at all the famous bands in history,
Speaker 12: whether it's John Lennon and Paul McCartney or Van Halen
Speaker 12: or whatever, it's like at some point musicians can work together,
Speaker 12: I'd be at the top of the game, but then
Speaker 12: it starts turning into well, I'm going to do my
Speaker 12: side project, so I'd like big ver easearch to the same.
Speaker 12: I don't know if we're always to play nice.
Speaker 11: Together, and it's not.
Speaker 12: There are like finite aspects to our personality. Sometimes we're
Speaker 12: complex individuals and even big for researchers because that they
Speaker 12: get along and work in groups. Sometimes over time they
Speaker 12: are little divisions that arise in terms of man, I
Speaker 12: don't know if we're completely in sync on this idea
Speaker 12: or how I want to do this. So I think
Speaker 12: that's the challenge is just ultimately get everyone released, a
Speaker 12: lot of the primary researchers to agree one hundred percent Okay, yeah,
Speaker 12: this is how we need to do it funded like
Speaker 12: Lyles saying to where somebody's paying for and saying it
Speaker 12: is going to be like this in or out. You
Speaker 12: know at that point that you might fondalize that, okay,
Speaker 12: if they're going to put four ten million dollars in
Speaker 12: this way. I think we've moved beyond the days when
Speaker 12: Nada Hinton is pointing a shotgun at John Green. I
Speaker 12: think We're probably beyond that a little bit, but I
Speaker 12: still think there's a little bit of personality clash that
Speaker 12: goes on throughout the field. Even I know a lot
Speaker 12: of researchers that are everyone's a really good person. The
Speaker 12: Bigfoot comunity at large is a bunch of really good people,
Speaker 12: I think. But I think we're a lot like musicians
Speaker 12: in terms of how we react with other people in
Speaker 12: the band, so to speak.
Speaker 1: So definitely can't disagree with that. Now that you pointed
Speaker 1: out there's more than a handful of people in Bigfoot
Speaker 1: that I know personally that they are all musicians, So
Speaker 1: I definitely get that. I've done music in the past.
Speaker 1: I have no ego at all, though, so I'm the exception.
Speaker 4: Just before you go away Forever, your song is absolutely excellent.
Speaker 4: It made yourself cry the other day, Brian, by the way,
Speaker 4: it makes Gwen quite every time my shirt to But
Speaker 4: to everyone out there, Brian is an excellent singer.
Speaker 5: He's making me annoyed by not going back into it.
Speaker 1: I must be really good if I made myself cry.
Speaker 1: But enough of that, DJ. What say you about the
Speaker 1: collaborative efforts, my friend.
Speaker 7: I think it would have to be very organized, and
Speaker 7: definitely multiple locations to do the research. Number one, people
Speaker 7: don't get burnt out from spending months at a camp site.
Speaker 5: Also being able.
Speaker 7: To go to different locations around the country, around the world,
Speaker 7: so that way it refreshes everything and you can take
Speaker 7: ideas that you do in one spot and then like, hey,
Speaker 7: this might work here. You guys haven't done it yet,
Speaker 7: Let's give it a shot. Because I know when you
Speaker 7: get stuck in a place too long, you get very complacent,
Speaker 7: You're not as aware. You would definitely have to be
Speaker 7: very organized by the people in charge. Definitely have to
Speaker 7: be very funded just to be able to do it.
Speaker 7: Definitely take people in charge, like a board and stuff
Speaker 7: like that. When you get out to an area, you're like,
Speaker 7: this is gonna be great, this is gonna be great,
Speaker 7: and then after about a month you're like, let me
Speaker 7: stay a little longer, let me stay a little longer,
Speaker 7: and that turns into you like, all right, six months,
Speaker 7: I think I might have been here too long.
Speaker 4: This before we can go to bed because I know
Speaker 4: that Bride's about to fall asleep. I'm going to go
Speaker 4: to DJ Lao, Ken and Gwen if you want to.
Speaker 4: Brian Ego I note for you guys to share anything
Speaker 4: that you want to promote a fent that you've got
Speaker 4: coming up, stuff, I go straight to you Long.
Speaker 10: I'd just like to say that this is good stuff
Speaker 10: right here, and I think these ideas and the things
Speaker 10: we're throwing out are good things to think about as
Speaker 10: far as how do we advance any of this stuff,
Speaker 10: but without chasing our tails. As Ken said, these collaborations
Speaker 10: are possible. It's just human nature to disagree and stuff.
Speaker 10: But yeah, certainly no egos. My band Ghultown's been together
Speaker 10: for almost twenty five years, and half of us are
Speaker 10: still the same members we've got along for that long,
Speaker 10: and the others have had to leave for other reasons.
Speaker 10: They're still friendly. But it can be done. You just
Speaker 10: have to find the right people. The seeds of this
Speaker 10: or are out there, and hopefully someday there can be
Speaker 10: some better organized extradition or whatever that would yield the
Speaker 10: results that we're looking for. It's great to be on
Speaker 10: here with all you guys. Every time I'm on a
Speaker 10: podcast like this with a round table, I learned so
Speaker 10: much from all the other guys in the input, even myself,
Speaker 10: so it's always a learning experience. Fun to talk about this.
Speaker 5: What about you, DJA, I don't really have anything. Yes
Speaker 5: you do. Once in May, Yes, shoot out, I'll.
Speaker 7: Be thinking a trip across the pond and going visit
Speaker 7: a great place out there and talking people and hopefully
Speaker 7: promoting Lask and Killer Big. This is starting to build
Speaker 7: a collaboration. Look at how many people we had pop
Speaker 7: up on here talking about this. We're all in the
Speaker 7: same boat. We want to do something and we want
Speaker 7: to work together on it. People have been a part
Speaker 7: of groups already, but some groups might just have a
Speaker 7: set line of this is what we're going to do.
Speaker 5: This is your schedule. So if we all work together, this.
Speaker 7: Is something brew and getting ready to be made into
Speaker 7: something bit.
Speaker 11: Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 12: It's been an honor to be here be part of
Speaker 12: this esteemed assemblage of researchers.
Speaker 11: Very cool.
Speaker 12: Yeah, what I'm up to right now is I'm doing
Speaker 12: an online cryptozology course. It's a sixth class course with
Speaker 12: a certificate and quizzes. A lot of students that have gone.
Speaker 12: I've gone through four sessions and everyone's been really happy
Speaker 12: with it. So if anyone's interested in learning more about cryptids,
Speaker 12: every type of cryptid than you ever wanted to know.
Speaker 11: Get a certificate.
Speaker 12: Check me out on Patreon exploring cryptozoology and Patreon is
Speaker 12: a way to join, or you can just go to
Speaker 12: my website Kengearhard dot com.
Speaker 11: There's a link there that you can click on.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 5: The last person I'll go to before I say the
Speaker 5: last be go Ahad. I've got a ton of stuff
Speaker 5: going on.
Speaker 8: You only have two minutes, Okay, stop taking my time, man.
Speaker 8: I host my own podcast from behind Tall Trees, and
Speaker 8: then I'm formulating a magazine called Strange Knocks Magazine, where
Speaker 8: we're going to talk about all the weird, crazy, wild stuff,
Speaker 8: every cryptid, imaginable, true crime for one one type of stuff.
Speaker 8: We're going to cover it all in the magazine, so
Speaker 8: it'll be something for everybody there. Strange Knox is on Facebook.
Speaker 8: Look us up, maybe get the subscription. That'd be great,
Speaker 8: Buy some ad space even better. So I'm going across
Speaker 8: the pond. I have my own conference here in Central
Speaker 8: Pennsylvania called the Central Pa Cryptid but Festival. Last year
Speaker 8: we had seventy five hundred people at ten and about
Speaker 8: one hundred and ten vendors, and this year we're looking
Speaker 8: at two hundred vendors and probably ten thousand people. So
Speaker 8: it takes up a lot of my time.
Speaker 4: I think your husband has said stop getting vendors just
Speaker 4: as much as you guys have told me to stop
Speaker 4: getting guest speakers.
Speaker 8: I don't listen to him any other time.
Speaker 1: Why would I start now?
Speaker 4: That's why I don't listen to you. I know every
Speaker 4: time I call Brian, Brian goes. If you tell me
Speaker 4: that you've got another guest speaker for the conference, I
Speaker 4: will no longer be friends with you. I said the
Speaker 4: same thing Brian before I say the last couple of words, Brian,
Speaker 4: is there anything that you would like to promote my friend?
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't have anything to promote.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I do have my book out, Sasquatch on at least
Speaker 1: the Truth behind the Legend. I just finished my second book,
Speaker 1: send it off to the publishers last week, so it'll
Speaker 1: hopefully be out next year. It is a fiction, live
Speaker 1: story about a Sasquatch character that you get to follow
Speaker 1: throughout his entire life. We make it through about twelve
Speaker 1: years in the first books. There's a ton of other
Speaker 1: books to come. I've put it out on Sasquatch Odyssey.
Speaker 1: I've read the first three or four chapters I've narrated
Speaker 1: out there for folks to listen to, and it's gotten
Speaker 1: huge feedbacks. People seem to be interested in it. They've
Speaker 1: engaged with the characters, which is exactly what I wanted.
Speaker 1: It'll probably be a series of about five books, maybe six,
Speaker 1: but it should be out at the first of the year.
Speaker 1: Sasquatch on least has been out there since March of
Speaker 1: this year. You guys can get it on Amazon. You
Speaker 1: can get it on my website, paying on the World
Speaker 1: Productions dot Com. We've got a store there where I
Speaker 1: sell autographed copies. But you can get it on Amazon,
Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble, anywhere you get books, and obviously all
Speaker 1: the podcast. Everybody's probably listening on my podcast, so you've
Speaker 1: probably already found me at this point, but we do
Speaker 1: have other podcasts. You guys can go to the website
Speaker 1: and check it out.
Speaker 4: Now before we go, there is a special guest that
Speaker 4: is just come in the chat.
Speaker 5: Please welcome Harvest Moonming Mean Quest.
Speaker 4: In future, that interview should be released on Mythical Legends.
Speaker 5: Very soon.
Speaker 4: We have an announcement to make in the new year,
Speaker 4: something to do with Harvest moonk. Thank you so much
Speaker 4: guys for Thank you to the Mythical Legends co host
Speaker 4: for coming on, Nan and Chris and I will of course.
Speaker 5: A Brian as well.
Speaker 4: We wish you were a very happy Christmas and we
Speaker 4: hope you have a great New Year as well.
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