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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Bear Hunting magazine Hunt Cash with me

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe Morehead. We're gonna nerd out on bears hunting and

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<v Speaker 1>the outdoors. We'll tell stories, talk biology, tactics, gear, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fight to protect the pursuits that we hold dear,

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<v Speaker 1>So grab your bino's, lace up your boots, load up

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<v Speaker 1>your barrels, and gather the hounds as we venture on

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<v Speaker 1>this journey together. Welcome to the podcast. It is that

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<v Speaker 1>time again. It's time to go after some bears over

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<v Speaker 1>bait in Arkansas. The season here starts up next Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am here for it. Today we're gonna stay

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<v Speaker 1>on the topic of baiting bears with some of the

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<v Speaker 1>So today we're joined by three outfitters out of Bear

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<v Speaker 1>Hunting Magazine that either I have hunted with or my

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<v Speaker 1>buddies David McDaniels and Brent Reeves is hunted with. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna guard the gate here by showing that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no one correct way to bait bears. These outfitters are

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<v Speaker 1>only separated out by a few hours combined, and they

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<v Speaker 1>all have different ways that they bait bears, and they

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<v Speaker 1>get some biggins. That's right, Biggins with two g's. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're gonna get a lot out of this episode

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<v Speaker 1>and to help guard the gate spread that type of

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<v Speaker 1>word that no one has the one correct way for

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<v Speaker 1>all bears. Bears do bear things, and that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I like to say regularly, just to

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<v Speaker 1>say that bears are very individual in nature and they

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<v Speaker 1>have preferences. For instance, in southern Arkansas, bears won't touch sweets.

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<v Speaker 1>They will only hammer the coin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Learn that from Omyran means from previous episodes. Anyways, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into it. I think you're going to enjoy this one.

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<v Speaker 1>So Todd, tell me about Baldy Mountain, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>history and just what things have been like since you

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<v Speaker 1>took over.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Baldy Mountain Outfitters. Well, I ended up purchasing it

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<v Speaker 3>off of Tom and Debbie Ainsworth, which was Grand View Outfitters.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd been running it for oh man, it was close

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<v Speaker 3>to thirty five years when I took over, and I

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<v Speaker 3>took over in twenty seventeen, so it's been whatever whatever

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<v Speaker 3>the math is on that, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think eight nine years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I mean yeah, like I've been I had

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<v Speaker 3>been guiding, you know, I've been eighteen I've been all

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<v Speaker 3>over in the industry, like from Manitoba, did a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of guy in Saskatchewan and out in BC.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know different species and stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>At a young age there too, I knew, man, this

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<v Speaker 3>is what I wanted to really get into. So I

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, kind of always would look around and

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<v Speaker 3>then all of a sudden and then I heard about

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<v Speaker 3>Tom wanting to sell This is something that I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>interested in because you know, it's it's just been a

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<v Speaker 3>primary there. The genetics are just phenomenal there. You get

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<v Speaker 3>the color phase, you know, big trophy bears. I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to get into something that was like top notch, something unique,

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<v Speaker 3>not just an average outfit. And then too, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just be able to offer really high quality times with

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<v Speaker 3>harvesting high quality bears. I talked to my wife and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>like this kind of checks all the checkboxes, yeah or yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>are we up for this? And she was like okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, we just jumped into it. And it's been

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<v Speaker 3>quite a right, I've been a ton of work. I've

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<v Speaker 3>just been blown away, like every year, just the bears

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<v Speaker 3>that we keep harvesting, the quality, the color phase, like

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<v Speaker 3>it's just crazy. I mean this year too, we took

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<v Speaker 3>our biggest bear on the skull. If I could have

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<v Speaker 3>measured the lower jaw, he would have been over twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two inches, which yeah for black bears, like that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>just crazy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's go ahead and talk about what you think

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<v Speaker 1>of or what you're looking for whenever you go to

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<v Speaker 1>start a bait.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, I mean the nice thing is especially in

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<v Speaker 3>the ducks there, it's such a phenomenal area for bears.

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<v Speaker 3>So really, I mean, you set up a bait, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of anywhere, and you are going to get some

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<v Speaker 3>matching at some point. But key things, you know, what

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<v Speaker 3>I look for is kind of you know, just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of pinch points with the topography a bit, but also too,

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<v Speaker 3>I know earlier I've been like, oh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>got to keep my baits like X amount of miles

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<v Speaker 3>away or you know that way you're not like too close.

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<v Speaker 3>But as I've been doing this more or like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when I set up baits, I'm realizing you don't always

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily need to be miles away. You can even be

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a mile away or three quarter mile. But

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<v Speaker 3>then what I kind of call it is doing cluster baiting.

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<v Speaker 3>So say you run like three baits that are kind

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<v Speaker 3>of in a I don't know, say a two mile

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<v Speaker 3>three mile radius, Then what I do is I'll put

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<v Speaker 3>hunters on all three of those baits. You may not

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<v Speaker 3>get the volume you would like as if on one bait,

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<v Speaker 3>but the thing is, especially for going for bigger bears,

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<v Speaker 3>you're taking that pressure off and then that way you

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<v Speaker 3>can kind of bounce around to those baits, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the big thing keeping your your hunting pressure to a minimal.

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<v Speaker 3>I find in my area going back to like starting

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<v Speaker 3>a bait, just being patient, you put work into it.

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<v Speaker 3>What I've found too is I mean I had a

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<v Speaker 3>bait last year finally it took off, and I've been

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<v Speaker 3>baiting for about three or four years. But baiting too,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to think of it as an investment, just

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't get a whole lot of action right aways.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you know you've got to give it a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years, but you know, you just keep baiting it.

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<v Speaker 3>And like that one bait that I had this year,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'd been baity and Badia and you know, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>get a couple of bears in there and nothing special,

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<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden this year, like it

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<v Speaker 3>just took off and we actually harvested a booner off

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<v Speaker 3>there with a thirteen year old kid with a cross,

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<v Speaker 3>So it was pretty awesome. Just because a spot it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't take off radaways. Sometimes you got to give it

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of time. Other times, you know, if it's

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<v Speaker 3>just not produce and then yeah, sometimes you just got

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<v Speaker 3>to pull the plug and try some go somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah awesome, I know the answer, But tell us what

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<v Speaker 1>you bait with.

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<v Speaker 3>Primarily I'd bait with corn and basically friar oil. This

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<v Speaker 3>year I got a home blackload of honey, so was

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<v Speaker 3>throwing some honey out there too. My go to up

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<v Speaker 3>in our area there is corn. Other things definitely work,

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<v Speaker 3>you know when you're outfitting. The corn is just super

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<v Speaker 3>efficient for me. And what I've been finding too is

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<v Speaker 3>like using corn, say like over oats. It's in my area,

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<v Speaker 3>it's definitely night and day effer like you put corn

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<v Speaker 3>where you put oats and corn, and they won't even

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<v Speaker 3>touch the oats, like they just nihilate the corn. And

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<v Speaker 3>the nice thing what I really like about the corn

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<v Speaker 3>too is the corn can get wet and they'll still

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<v Speaker 3>eat it, or it gets on the ground. Everything gets

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<v Speaker 3>like just vacuumed up like it's just gone. So it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it just works. It's been working really good for us.

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<v Speaker 3>And and then I can always I like to advertise

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<v Speaker 3>and kind of joke about it. Then we say, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we got corn fed bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Come up, so I like it. Now, what happens if

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<v Speaker 1>corn goes sour.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if the corn goes sour, it works really good.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have a window of time before it gets

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<v Speaker 3>too rotten. They usually have like stashes of barrels at

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<v Speaker 3>the bait site and then I've had you know, bears

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<v Speaker 3>also rip them off and then they end up in

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<v Speaker 3>a swamp and then I don't get to until, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks later it's been sitting in the

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<v Speaker 3>sun and then they're starting to ferment. But as long

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<v Speaker 3>as I catch it in time, I opened that barrel

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<v Speaker 3>up and I just dump it on the ground and

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<v Speaker 3>just the aroma off it of the fermenting. I've had

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<v Speaker 3>that at some baits and they just clean it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, awesome. I want to try that sometimes just to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up, we did that with hogs when we were

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<v Speaker 1>baiting traps and stuff, and man, it just pulled him in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe we'll get a hog of a bruin on it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a favorite go to bear story? Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>I got lots, I know, what's your what's your favorite?

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<v Speaker 1>Well this spring, like with that that really big one.

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<v Speaker 1>That was pretty special this spring because I've been chasing

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<v Speaker 1>that guy, oh man, i'd say for at least four

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<v Speaker 1>or five years and just had him on camera a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he was very distinct. He had he

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<v Speaker 1>was just nice for black muzzle and then he had

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<v Speaker 1>like just this nice chevron on his chest there too,

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<v Speaker 1>white patch. And yeah, it was crazy because I've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been having pictures of him in that one area

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<v Speaker 1>there and that that was you know, kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of an example of a cluster bating. What happened

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<v Speaker 1>that night was we were hunting three baits that were

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<v Speaker 1>probably like, yeah, kind of two miles apart from each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and put a guy back in there. And he hunted

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<v Speaker 1>with me last year and never he did not ended

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<v Speaker 1>up not shooting anything last year because you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was looking for something really special and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, this guy came out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was like day two or day three.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, he just came out and it was a

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<v Speaker 3>no brainer, and the guy just yeah, he gave him

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<v Speaker 3>the news with a forty five seventy and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just shot him perfect. And then when I came in

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<v Speaker 3>and to or to get or whatever just coming into

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<v Speaker 3>the bear, oh man, Like I was just I think

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<v Speaker 3>I was more excited than what he was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>at first or when I actually saw the bear, because

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<v Speaker 3>I came in there and he's like, you know, it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>tell me a story. What happened? And he's like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's a good one. And I'm like okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well let's go check it out. Because sometimes guys say

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<v Speaker 3>that and kind of you knows it's a one hand

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<v Speaker 3>or that, you know. But yeah, Also I walked up

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<v Speaker 3>on this guy and I was just like, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like that's that's a good one, and then rolled

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<v Speaker 3>him over and then started looking at him more and

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like Mark, I was like this, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like you I got history with this guy, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just awesome, awesome team. So so sorry that's

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<v Speaker 3>not too much of a natural exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Bear story, but well it's exciting when you have so

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<v Speaker 1>much history with one. Yeah, you know, to finally lay

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<v Speaker 1>hands on it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's kind of a bit of a bittersweet too,

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<v Speaker 3>like when when you end up harvesting a guy like

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<v Speaker 3>that too. But I mean the really cool thing about

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<v Speaker 3>it too is you know, looking at his teeth and everything,

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<v Speaker 3>like he was old, Like I don't know how much more.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he might have had one more winter in him,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, he was up in the four eighty four,

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<v Speaker 3>ninety he was just he was under fives, but just yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the crazy thing is is I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>you only do spring hunts, so I mean that's a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, four ninety class bear in the spring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh it's pretty well yeah cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Well thanks Todd, Yeah, well thanks a lot too, Coolby

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<v Speaker 3>it's always uh always good chatting with you too.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Todd Waldemo with Baldy Mountain Outfitting, and next

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<v Speaker 1>we're moving to rich Garrez from Eastern Sky Guiding. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>both of these outfitters I've hunted with, and there's some

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<v Speaker 1>similarities and there's some things that they do differently, but

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<v Speaker 1>both of them got the bear. I mean, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>big bears and colored bears with both of these guys

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<v Speaker 1>and had just some phenomenal sits. You would remember Rich

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<v Speaker 1>from episode eighteen where we were recapping my recent hunt

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<v Speaker 1>with those guys up in Saskatchewan. Well, we recorded a

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<v Speaker 1>what Rich had to say. And I will say that

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<v Speaker 1>Todd talking about cluster bating, that's something that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>could see that working really well, especially with larger pieces

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<v Speaker 1>are closer together, or in a larger hunting club. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>Here's Rich.

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked hearing your progression of how you baited,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'd like to talk about your bait theory and

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<v Speaker 1>your the evolution of your bait baiting strategies.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like when we when I first started bating, I

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<v Speaker 5>used what I what I could get my hands on.

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<v Speaker 5>We started with meat scraps and oats. We always had

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<v Speaker 5>oats around, cooking oil we could pick up, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>So that was that was the thing I could do

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<v Speaker 5>affordably and have access to it, you know, readily. But

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<v Speaker 5>and it worked. It worked really good, especially in the

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<v Speaker 5>beginning of the season. What we did find is, as

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<v Speaker 5>you know, as the season went on and you got

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<v Speaker 5>into your lush grass, dandelions started popping out, you could

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<v Speaker 5>tell they were backing off on it. They were pulling

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<v Speaker 5>the oats out, picking at the meat scraps, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>that's what they wanted. But the oats wasn't a big

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<v Speaker 5>thing at that point. And I think it's just because

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<v Speaker 5>they had they had more choices, right, they had they

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<v Speaker 5>had all this lush grass, they had alfalfa, they had dandelions.

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<v Speaker 5>So and we still will use some of the oats

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<v Speaker 5>and meat scraps in the beginning if we have a source.

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<v Speaker 5>As it gets later on and the competition gets higher,

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<v Speaker 5>we've found it's made a huge difference. They want it

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<v Speaker 5>more than they desire the green grass. If you can

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<v Speaker 5>keep switching it up and keep bettering it, it just

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<v Speaker 5>it helps. It comes down to affordability and access. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>So if if you can, if you have access to

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<v Speaker 5>it affordably, then I mean, everybody everybody's different.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, And you use the grease barrel kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like I do corn, where the bears always have something

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<v Speaker 1>there even when the other runs out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I've seen hunting and stands mainly up here

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<v Speaker 1>in Canada. I haven't seen anyone do this down south,

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<v Speaker 1>but those grease barrows sometimes they're highly preferred over the

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<v Speaker 1>the other bears. Like they'll go and eat whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>bait is, but they will stay glued sometimes to those

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it and it really helps attract more bears

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<v Speaker 5>as well, because they get it on them and they're

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<v Speaker 5>wherever they go there, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Track those ponds out. Yeah, And I wonder if it

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<v Speaker 1>helps their coat at all. Like I notice, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was just like the fall, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the bears. Most of the bears had slick

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<v Speaker 1>coats that I saw.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if if it has anything to do with

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<v Speaker 1>that grease. Like with dogs at your house, like you

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<v Speaker 1>always heard that if you feed them some eggs regularly

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<v Speaker 1>let their it'll slick their coats up. Yeah, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's possible. I don't for sure. I definitely know they

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<v Speaker 5>do not get constipated when they eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>One bear proved that to me in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>stand last night. Oh, that's good. That's good, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>That was some good stuff from Rich. And at some

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<v Speaker 1>point we're gonna have to get his wife, Marla on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Marla's awesome and she is a bear hunter. She's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest color phase bears I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>out the main house. They have some really incredible bears

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<v Speaker 1>that they've taken over the years. So now we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>move over to We're gonna talk to Craig and Melanie

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy from North Mountain Adventures there in Southwest Manitoba. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't hunted with Craig and mel but my good

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<v Speaker 1>buddy David McDaniels and Print Reeves have both hunted there.

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<v Speaker 1>David has been there the last two years and had

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<v Speaker 1>two excellent experiences. But it seems like between the two

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<v Speaker 1>of them, they're stuck on chocolate bears. Anyways, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>over to them and see what they have to share

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<v Speaker 1>with the So let's just start with talking about North

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain Adventure.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 6>So North Mounta Adventures, it's kind of a complex thing

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<v Speaker 6>at this point. We started out as I don't fitting

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<v Speaker 6>business back in twenty fourteen, and it was really just

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<v Speaker 6>a small family operation for American bear hunters, and it

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<v Speaker 6>took a big turn in twenty twenty, ironically, in middle

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<v Speaker 6>of the global pause, we took a backseat and kind

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<v Speaker 6>of evaluated things a little bit and decided to change

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<v Speaker 6>our cabins that we used for hunters into a rental situation.

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<v Speaker 6>So that was a big shift for us. So we

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<v Speaker 6>now have four season cabins that that we rent out

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<v Speaker 6>to guests, and we also, I should say I also

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<v Speaker 6>supported Craig's dream. It was really Craig's dream to pursue

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<v Speaker 6>videoing his hunting adventures, and that has evolved significantly since

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<v Speaker 6>its inception, and probably best if I let him speak

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<v Speaker 6>to that. Yeah, when we found out that nobody could

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<v Speaker 6>cross the border, that wasn't going to stop me from

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<v Speaker 6>going out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had a buddy over and we decided that

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to start filming some stuff. So we made

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<v Speaker 2>two YouTube videos. I believe one was an el hunt

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the local Canadian broadcasters got a hold

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<v Speaker 2>of it somehow really liked it, called us up and

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<v Speaker 2>asked us if they could use it in their on

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<v Speaker 2>their channel, and then that turned into more talks and

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<v Speaker 2>we ended up signing with them and we're working on

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<v Speaker 2>season four now.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so it's been it's been kind of a cool adventure,

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<v Speaker 6>like Craig said, working on season four content now, Season

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<v Speaker 6>three is still airing on on Wild TV and is

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<v Speaker 6>now uploading on a weekly basis to carbon Tv, which

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<v Speaker 6>is super cool for our American following. So now it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's even more accessible. You can you can see it

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<v Speaker 6>on the Wild tv Plus app globally, so that's still

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<v Speaker 6>an option. But Carbon TV really opens the doors for

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people would see a familiar face, our buddy, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Brent Reeves came up there this year, right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Brent will definitely be part of our spring guiding show,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for certain. He was an absolute blast abbot Camp. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've hung up with Brent for any part of time,

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<v Speaker 2>he keeps a smile on your face most of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he always makes his case.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a joke about knives.

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<v Speaker 6>Guys, I say the same thing or not, but I thought, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good plug for his name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys, as far as outfitting, you pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>are strictly bear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We we have nineteen foreign resident bear tags, but

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<v Speaker 2>we also have twelve foreign resident deer tags. Six are

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<v Speaker 2>for one area and six we just got in a

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<v Speaker 1>We awesome. Okay, Well let's shift gears and let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>talk about bait placement. How you started up and then

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<v Speaker 1>what you bait with.

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<v Speaker 2>My bait place. When I first started up, I pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much went on, we have a in Canada. Before Onyx

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<v Speaker 2>got here, we have an eye hunter app. So obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I scanned all areas and look for quarters, just like

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<v Speaker 2>when you're looking for deer, high ridges in between swamps,

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of places where you think animals would normally run.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I would try and make a site, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't make it ready to go to, ready to hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just put barrels and start baiting and just

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<v Speaker 2>see what kind of activity you could get. And believe

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<v Speaker 2>it or not, sometimes moving a barrel five hundred yards

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<v Speaker 2>actually makes a big difference. But on that that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of how I picked my spots. And if I moved

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<v Speaker 2>a few, and now we got we're probably close to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five bait sites situated and they're all they've been

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<v Speaker 2>pretty active for the last years. So on that we

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<v Speaker 2>mostly used for bait is oats and used grease. In

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<v Speaker 2>the past four years, I've been putting Northwoods bear products

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<v Speaker 2>gold rush in my grease, which helps a lot for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely gets the scent out better. I find in

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<v Speaker 2>the spring using the oats and the grease for sustenance,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I chop up beavers and in the spring

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<v Speaker 2>that's the first thing they go for is beavers and

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<v Speaker 2>damn beaver. They sell a wax milt honey. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>a burnt honey in jugs. So putting that all over

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<v Speaker 2>and I find in the fall they're a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>finnick here, so treats a little bit sweeter. Still put

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<v Speaker 2>the oats in the grease, but they'll go after the

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<v Speaker 2>treats a little more in the fall, I find more

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<v Speaker 2>than they go after the beaver.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And what kind of treats do you typically ken on?

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<v Speaker 2>that you can get that's got any kind of sweetness

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<v Speaker 2>to them. That seems to work pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. How long do you give a bait before you

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<v Speaker 1>decide to move it?

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<v Speaker 2>I typically give it a full season, So give it

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<v Speaker 2>the full season, baited in the spring, baited in the fall,

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<v Speaker 2>and start at the next spring, and if it's still

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<v Speaker 2>not hitting the way that I think it should hit,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll move it. But you should know after the spring

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<v Speaker 2>and then into the fall. How many you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting three or four or five bears moving in

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<v Speaker 2>there on your trail cam, then you know you're probably

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<v Speaker 2>in the right vicinity. If you're only getting one bear

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a small bear, obviously you're not quite in

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<v Speaker 2>the right spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite bear story?

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite bear story? Oh, there's a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. Actually, a good one would be when David

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<v Speaker 2>came up actually in the article, the one he wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>and he mentioned it in the article when I put

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<v Speaker 2>him in the bait site, and the day that I

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<v Speaker 2>actually forgot the sleigh and his bear was like died

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<v Speaker 2>in the worst place possible for dragging it, So we

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<v Speaker 2>probably had to pull it a good couple hundred yards

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground, which isn't easy with a two and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy pound bear, you know how they're so floppy and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I heard about it the whole time we were

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<v Speaker 2>dragging it, David about outfitters should be better than this,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>How funny? Yeah, And the funny thing is, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know David, he's he's not one to give a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time like he's a he's a hard, hard worker, but

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<v Speaker 1>he sure does like to mess with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's all in jest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was all part of the experience.

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<v Speaker 1>The last two years, I've talked to him on his

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<v Speaker 1>way home and he uh, he's had two great experiences

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<v Speaker 1>up there with you guys. Do you have any go

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<v Speaker 1>to tips, like any hot tips?

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<v Speaker 2>Patience? Yeah, patience is definitely key. I find that if

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<v Speaker 2>you're obviously hunting a bear over bait, if you're hunting

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<v Speaker 2>any bear can be obviously easy if you shoot the

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<v Speaker 2>first bear that comes in, but he's chances are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be small. The best tip I can give to

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<v Speaker 2>a hunter that's sitting in the stand, especially when we

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<v Speaker 2>have him on camera. The first couple of days might

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<v Speaker 2>he's there, he's just sniffing you out and getting used

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<v Speaker 2>to the bait side with the new smell in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Typically by day four he's probably almost used to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and day three or day four you're probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>see him. And day five even is probably your best

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<v Speaker 2>chance at shooting the giant bear that's on the bait

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<v Speaker 2>side in literally the last ten minutes. So best tip

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<v Speaker 2>would be to hold out as long as he can.

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<v Speaker 6>Unless you're Brent Leaves. I was just going to say,

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<v Speaker 6>there there is the anomalies where the big guys show

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<v Speaker 6>up on that first day, but patience is definitely important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I told Brent, I said, you got lucky I

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<v Speaker 2>opened the cage at the right time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll be honest. We really pride ourselves on our guys

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<v Speaker 6>having fun. It's really about the experience, like the bear hunting,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think David and Brent and any of the

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<v Speaker 6>guys would probably tell you the same thing. The bear

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<v Speaker 6>hunting is almost the cherry on top, is how we

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like to look at it, like we really

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<v Speaker 6>want people to feel comfortable to have a good meal

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<v Speaker 6>on the daily and have a good experience, get to

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<v Speaker 6>know each other. It's really just fun when everybody jives

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<v Speaker 6>and takes that in.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is.

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<v Speaker 6>I would include just kicking back and having fun.

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<v Speaker 1>If you and fun, get out there and have fun, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That is something that we just need to remember to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Mel really hit the nail on the head.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the most important things you can have inside

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<v Speaker 1>your toolkit is a positive mental attitude because you can

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<v Speaker 1>keep more friends other people going along with This is

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<v Speaker 1>what makes things so rewarding, unless you're a grumpy gus.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, whenever I killed my big we're guessing close

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<v Speaker 1>to five hundred pound bear here in Arkansas, my buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Rick was with me, and this year it's his turn,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna I'm gonna go sit with him and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go after another bear this year on the

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<v Speaker 1>same property. And they are not hitting the bait like

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<v Speaker 1>they did last year. But I can promise we're in

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<v Speaker 1>it and we're gonna have a great time regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>the outcome. But it's just rewarding to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>spend time in the outdoors. It really is a privilege

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<v Speaker 1>to live close to places that We love to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and explore. Until next time, guard the gate, keep

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<v Speaker 1>on keeping on, stay calm, and just go find some bears.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for listening. The Bear Hunting Magazine Hundcast is

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