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They didn't use boba meta techniques. 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,319 They may come back and say, well, your tooth is correct, 30 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,120 you need a crown, you need a root canal. 31 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:26,799 Speaker 3: Eventually, don't go there. Save your teeth, save your money 32 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:27,280 in the long run. 33 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,239 Speaker 2: Visit dental pros of Utah in American fork the best 34 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,840 bomba medicare mentally invasive care and it'll save your teeth 35 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,200 and your money in the long run. 36 00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome at double D 37 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:38,719 the Deadly. 38 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: HERALEDI in Sound the Bugle, Ladies and gentlemen. We got 39 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:43,959 Darnell Dixon on the line Double D. 40 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,599 Speaker 4: Hey you living well right now, living like it's nineteen 41 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,040 eighty five. We have an outage in the internet in 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,439 our area. So it's very quiet and in Dixon household 43 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,840 right now with no good to the outside world. So 44 00:01:57,319 --> 00:01:58,959 I don't know what's going on. Did you Todd join 45 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,599 the Big cann or something while I was out for 46 00:02:01,599 --> 00:02:02,200 the last hour. 47 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:04,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I will say this much. 48 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:08,879 Speaker 2: There is some drama brewing in Cougar Country, or rather 49 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:14,240 in Hollywood. We I just came across this, uh, and 50 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,280 I think we got it confirmed. 51 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:17,039 Speaker 4: Uh. 52 00:02:17,159 --> 00:02:21,159 Speaker 3: Pooka Akua is uh not in the not in the 53 00:02:21,199 --> 00:02:22,360 good line light right now. 54 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 4: He is uh. 55 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: He has checked himself into rehab after the alleged drunken 56 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,080 New Year's Eve bite attack report. So it looks like 57 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:33,520 he's in rehab. 58 00:02:35,719 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 59 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:41,439 Speaker 2: The RAMS Receivers attorney Levi mccatherine confirmed with The California 60 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,800 Post on Wednesday that his client has been at a 61 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:48,800 luxury treatment center in Malibu. While mccatherine said the move 62 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,039 was not a direct response to the lawsuit Nikua's bite accuser, 63 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,919 Madison A. Tiabi, filed against him last month, the lawyer 64 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,800 did say the combination of stories uh running right now 65 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:06,280 on him are certainly a contributing factor. He was there 66 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,400 a substantial period of time before any of these allegations 67 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:12,280 are broke with Madison, mccatherine said, and he's scheduled to 68 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,000 be there for a while longer. Mcatherine added that Nicoua's 69 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:18,240 goal with the stage to improve his overall behavior in 70 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,439 every aspect of his life that he can h and 71 00:03:22,719 --> 00:03:24,400 he said he's really proud of him for doing it 72 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:30,800 and doing it this off season. So, you know, Puoka, 73 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:33,199 you probably covered him in high school. He's a great 74 00:03:33,319 --> 00:03:35,159 He was a great kid, you know, I mean, obviously 75 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,759 a fun loving kid. He's he's super like just he's 76 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,080 a vibe man. Everyone loves being around Pooka. Everybody loves Pooka. 77 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,479 Anyone that's ever been around Pooka has really nothing ever 78 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:47,879 negative to say about Pooka. 79 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: Nikua. 80 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: It sounds like he's got into the limelight. He's in LA, 81 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,719 he's making money. He surrounded himself with the wrong mentors. 82 00:03:56,759 --> 00:03:59,400 He doesn't have a father figure. His father, Lionel passed 83 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,520 away years ago at a very young age, and he's 84 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:07,280 maybe relying on the on poor mentorship and he's gotten 85 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,439 maybe a little repression, right. He maybe didn't do very 86 00:04:10,439 --> 00:04:12,960 many bad things growing up and he's just in a 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:13,719 bad situation. 88 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, it's. 89 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: Too bad pooka. Uh is a kind of kid that 90 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,759 lights up the room when he comes in. He is 91 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,439 kind of the life of the room when he is there. 92 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,439 And it's kind of in terms of professionally, it's kind 93 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,199 of poor timing because he is up for signing a 94 00:04:32,199 --> 00:04:35,240 pretty large contract. In fact, what I was reading was 95 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,639 perhaps the largest wide receiver contract in the league. But 96 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,279 certainly that's a secondary concern right now. Is we just 97 00:04:43,319 --> 00:04:46,720 hope he gets his life right, gets himself feeling good, 98 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:49,519 and gets the help that he that he needs. 99 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: Yep, Yes, indeed, we pray that he gets it rights 100 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,879 and Uh makes the changes that he needs to. But yeah, 101 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,839 some bad news to start us off, but. 102 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: Some good news. 103 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: Boa women's basketball is in the wbiit What do you 104 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,160 say about that? Darnw I know you keep tabs on 105 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:10,040 this Lady Koog's team. 106 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. Earlier in the season, and I've told 107 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,279 Brandon Gurney this several times, they were kind of a 108 00:05:16,319 --> 00:05:20,759 tough watch. I mean, they were kind of struggling to 109 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,120 hold onto the ball and some value possessions. Lee Kamard 110 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,319 wanted to play up tempo, and early in the season, 111 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,720 I didn't feel like they really had the skill level 112 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:32,040 to do that, and they were constantly turning the ball 113 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,519 over twenty plus times a game, and that's difficult to win. 114 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:37,920 They managed to do it, and then they got into 115 00:05:37,959 --> 00:05:40,519 Big twelve and had some issues. But I feel like 116 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,959 they've kind of righted the ship a little bit, and 117 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:47,600 certainly they've played well. They won nine of their last 118 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:53,120 ten games heading into this championship game today of the 119 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,199 wbit against Columbia. By the way, who's athletics director is 120 00:05:57,199 --> 00:06:02,040 Peter Pilling who was once at BYU And yeah, so 121 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,360 so maybe there's a little bit of a story in that. 122 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,560 But I think Lee Camartin's coaching staff done a great 123 00:06:07,639 --> 00:06:13,199 job with this team in kind of getting things moving, 124 00:06:13,399 --> 00:06:15,879 and he showed a lot of patience with this group 125 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:19,160 because you know, during that that tough part of the 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,720 season when they were turning the ball over a lot. 127 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,319 I don't know if I as a coach, I would 128 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,920 have said, yeah, we're sticking with this high tempo game 129 00:06:25,959 --> 00:06:30,120 because they were turning it over so much. And they've 130 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,519 managed to figure some things out, so they're in a 131 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,959 it's a good place for them to be in the postseason, 132 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,160 winning some games and their young team and so they're 133 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,079 going to maybe hope, hopefully get some momentum heading into 134 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,480 next season. But I think, like again, Lee Martin and 135 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,600 his coaching staff deserves some accolades for sticking with this 136 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,560 team and getting them to this point. 137 00:06:50,639 --> 00:06:53,199 Speaker 2: Let me ask it is maybe a controversial question here. 138 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:59,680 Lee's doing great things rookie season as head coach, sir 139 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,839 past seeing Jeff Judkins for the most wins in a 140 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,959 in a uh in that rookie season. 141 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,079 Speaker 3: How did League get passed up on the first go round? 142 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,279 Speaker 2: Was it just due to his inexperience as a head 143 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:14,519 coach or you know, how how did he get passed up? 144 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,120 Why did he get the job the first go round 145 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:17,920 a few years ago? 146 00:07:18,959 --> 00:07:23,439 Speaker 4: That's a pretty good question. I think that perhaps there 147 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:26,000 was some not concern, but just the fact that he 148 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,040 only been a women's coach for a few years. He'd 149 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,160 been in the men's program before, and there is you know, 150 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:37,639 when you when you talk about hiring for women's basketball, 151 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,759 I think most ads look for a woman to be 152 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:44,560 the head coach. You know, it's good for them to 153 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,360 have role models, those those athletes that are playing and 154 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,680 and the connection and the being able to understand what's 155 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,839 going on. Sometimes they feel like maybe a woman coach 156 00:07:55,839 --> 00:08:00,759 would handle that better. There were some intriguing things about 157 00:08:00,759 --> 00:08:03,439 the previous coach, Amber Whiting when it came to her 158 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:09,240 connection to the AAU circuit. They took a chance, you know, 159 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,040 on her because she didn't have any college coaching experience, 160 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,319 and I personally would have liked to see her get 161 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,959 one more year to kind of get things going, because 162 00:08:17,959 --> 00:08:20,319 it was tough to jump right in there after that 163 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:23,199 first year and then go right into Big twelve because 164 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:26,079 it's a pretty tough league. So maybe that was it. 165 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,959 But I do know that Lee Kamard has a great 166 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,080 ability to have rapport with the athletes. And I probably 167 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,039 told this story before, but when he was a men's assistant, 168 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:39,559 I traveled to Los Angeles for a game b what 169 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,720 you played against USC. It was just a one off, 170 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:45,279 one of those you know, preseason games, and they normally 171 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,679 didn't travel, you know, just on a regular airline, but 172 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:52,440 because that had been paid for by the group that 173 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:54,639 ran this tournament, they were coming home in the same 174 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,759 flight I was coming home on. So we're all sitting 175 00:08:56,759 --> 00:08:59,159 in there waiting for the flight to get boarded. But 176 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,919 I noticed that a lot of players, like almost all 177 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,399 of them, at one point or another wandered over to 178 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,200 Lee Kamard and had a conversation with him, and I 179 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,840 was impressed with his ability to have that rapport and 180 00:09:10,919 --> 00:09:13,679 the fact that the players really wanted to talk to him, 181 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,519 get his feelings on stuff, get his opinion, and confide 182 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,799 in him. So I thought that he would make a 183 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,200 good head coach at some point. And right now he's 184 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,759 doing a great job with the women's program. 185 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: Doing fantastic. Hopefully they get the dub. 186 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,879 Speaker 2: Hopefully they get the victory there in Wichita, Kansas. It 187 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:37,759 looks like they're not favored per ESPN analytics. But if 188 00:09:37,799 --> 00:09:40,480 I know Lee, he's going to get that dog. He's 189 00:09:40,519 --> 00:09:42,519 going to bring out that dog in his squad and 190 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:44,360 they're going to come out with a victory. 191 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: Dardell, what have you been working out over there at 192 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:46,960 the Daily Hero? 193 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: What have you been writing about? Where have you been 194 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,840 casting your gays within Cougar Sports? 195 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,519 Speaker 4: Well, we just finished running our all valley teams or 196 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,159 we pick you know for the high school sports with basketball, 197 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,159 and we have Brian Priest, the wrestling Guru of Utah. 198 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,279 It helps it with with wrestling and It's always fun 199 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,960 to connect with, you know, the coaches and players. I'm 200 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,720 also working on a story right now on and this 201 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,559 this concerns kind of BYU ties at least. So Psy 202 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Chrisman is a six foot five pound slugger baseball player, 203 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,759 and he played at Maple Mountain for the last couple 204 00:10:26,799 --> 00:10:29,639 of years and set the state record and home runs 205 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,480 last season. And as I was preparing for this this 206 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,679 season this spring season for high school sports, I noticed 207 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,279 that he wasn't on the Maple Mountain roster. So I 208 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,639 started looking around some research and apparently he has decided 209 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,919 to play at IMG Academy in Florida to kind of 210 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:49,200 step up this game and have some opportunities to play 211 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,679 against some good pitching and increase his ability, uh to 212 00:10:53,159 --> 00:10:54,639 you know, go on on the next level. So I 213 00:10:54,639 --> 00:10:58,120 spoke to his dad, Jed Christman, who was a former 214 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:01,919 pro bo baseball player, and Jake's brother who played at BYU. 215 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,159 And so I'm working on that story now, trying to 216 00:11:04,159 --> 00:11:06,360 get a touch with say and find out what it's 217 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,559 like to go from playing high school baseball in Utah 218 00:11:10,639 --> 00:11:15,120 and heading out to Florida to play high level IMG 219 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:18,960 Academy And as I said, try to help his chances 220 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,639 of maybe playing at the next level. 221 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,919 Speaker 2: Darnell Dixon the Daily Herali and talking to Cougar Sports 222 00:11:25,919 --> 00:11:28,759 here on your Utah ESPN Radio network. 223 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,399 Speaker 3: There was some recruiting news that dropped. 224 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: I know you covered the prep sports realm pretty tightly, 225 00:11:34,759 --> 00:11:39,559 pretty closely. Titan de Young at a mountain Ridge linebacker 226 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:43,320 tight end. We got the interview yesterday. Really impressive young man. 227 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:45,919 What do you know about this kid? And he's the 228 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,360 first commit of the twenty twenty seven class. He's already 229 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,159 recruiting the rest of the twenty twenty seven class. He 230 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,919 mentioned he's recruiting Body Sparrow, the four star out of Davis. 231 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,000 He's recruiting I believe the kid out of Salem, Peyton 232 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:04,519 Higginson is well. Try to get him sound sealed, delivered, 233 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,200 committed to the Koogs. What do you know about Titan 234 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:09,679 and these guys that he's trying to recruit now to b. 235 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 4: YU becoming more and more in the last couple of years, 236 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,000 familiar with the teams in Region two, which mountain Ridge 237 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,320 is in there because west Lake who used to be 238 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,120 in the region with American Fork and Skyridge and those 239 00:12:23,159 --> 00:12:25,559 teams has moved into that region and there are some 240 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,039 really good football being played. And you know, as we 241 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,159 look at how BYU handled its recruiting and that transfer 242 00:12:32,279 --> 00:12:36,440 portal era, you still got to hit your local recruits 243 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,320 really well. You got to recruit Utah and get the 244 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,799 best players out of them. Titan seems to be one 245 00:12:40,879 --> 00:12:42,600 of those guys who's going to be an athlete. You 246 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:45,200 can play in a lot of different positions once you 247 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,360 figure out where you want him to go. So he's 248 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,879 a good pickup for the local recruiting efforts and you 249 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 have to continue to mind those and you've got competition 250 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,960 there because Utah wants them and we were state in 251 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,960 Utah State and all these schools have things to offer. 252 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,840 So BYU have to pick their guys wisely, and they 253 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:06,840 have a process by which they, you know, see a 254 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,799 lot of these kids in camps during the summer, and 255 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,039 then they have the opportunity to go see them play 256 00:13:12,039 --> 00:13:15,320 on Friday nights because that's part of the process. So 257 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,519 he seems like a pretty good pickup. And as you mentioned, 258 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,639 because he's starting to recruit some of these other kids 259 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,080 that are local, there's always a good pipeline there. 260 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,399 Speaker 2: As well, love it double d darn Al Dixon talking 261 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,120 to some Cougar football and recruiting here on your Utah 262 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:35,639 USPN radio network. I do like those two guys that 263 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,080 he's recruited right now, Body Sparrow and Peyton Higginson both 264 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,039 both really good skill guys with like four star type offers, 265 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:47,919 and they're getting recruited by just about everybody in the country. 266 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:51,080 Their hometown kids though, right you hope that you can 267 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,600 retain them here in the state of Utahn BYU now 268 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,080 is the premier school for college football play, and so 269 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,480 if anybody's going to get them, it's to be b YU, Right. 270 00:14:02,919 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 4: Well, you have to balance it with with your recruiting 271 00:14:06,759 --> 00:14:11,799 of the transfer portal and retaining the talent that you have, 272 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,279 you know from from your previous teams. And there there's 273 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,039 another guy that I like locally that is getting a 274 00:14:21,039 --> 00:14:23,279 lot of talk right now, and I'm not sure where 275 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:27,759 his highs is college will take him, but Malik Ico 276 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,120 wide receiver out of West Lake, had a fantastic year 277 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,000 last year for the Thunder and he hasn't played a 278 00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:37,120 ton of football, but he ended up with like twelve 279 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,279 or thirteen hundred yards receiving and eighteen touchdowns and then 280 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,960 he just recently led Westlake to the State six A 281 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,279 basketball championship. And so he's a really terrific guy, leads 282 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,480 very smooth, and so he's another local kid that BYU is. 283 00:14:51,559 --> 00:14:53,879 I'm sure they've got their eye on and seeing where 284 00:14:53,919 --> 00:14:56,279 he heads in. But yeah, BYU has to be the 285 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,320 place that and you want, you know, like I said, 286 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,279 there's competition, but you want to be the place where 287 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,679 those kids look to want to go. And those kids 288 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:06,639 are important to your program because you expect to be 289 00:15:06,679 --> 00:15:09,080 able to retain those guys a little bit easier because 290 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,000 they're closer to home and because they've grown up knowing 291 00:15:12,039 --> 00:15:15,120 the program in a lot of cases, so you hope 292 00:15:15,159 --> 00:15:16,679 that that's the place where they're looking to go. 293 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: And look, look a little competitive enmity here between the 294 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:25,360 brethren up on the hill is in talking to Titan 295 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,440 to Young, I mean he grew up a Utah fan group, 296 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,600 a Utah fan. I was like, wait to say, okay, 297 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,519 It was like, who were your top three? He's like 298 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:38,000 Michigan BYU and who else did he mention? He mentioned 299 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,960 somebody else. It wasn't even Utah. Utah wasn't even a 300 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,960 top three, top four, top five. It didn't even seem 301 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,279 like I was like, wait a second, how does that happen? 302 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,320 He's like, well, like a lot of uncertainty there. We 303 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,039 don't know what the future is. Kilanie's stability resigning this contract, 304 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,519 he's gonna be for another ten years. It's just you 305 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:58,679 know that the trajectory is it. You know when you 306 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:06,559 hear that you're taking kids that are grew up Utah 307 00:16:06,679 --> 00:16:09,240 fans and you're getting them to commit to b YU. 308 00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:11,600 What does that say about the rivalry where we're at 309 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,799 right now with the winning streak that B Way Football has. 310 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've talked about this a lot before, but 311 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:21,519 we know that Utah had a distinct advantage when they 312 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,840 joined the Pac twelve and BYU and an independent and 313 00:16:23,919 --> 00:16:27,440 in recruiting and the amount of resources they could use. 314 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,200 And things have turned around in that area, and b 315 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,120 why you joined the Big twelve. And then now with 316 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,200 you know, Nil and b YU having very deep pockets 317 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,360 with their donors, they've been able to surpass what Utah 318 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:44,000 has in that area. So so I think that and 319 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,240 you know, kids are smart. They they it's not like 320 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:49,200 the old days where they grew up and you know 321 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:53,000 were the BYU uniform necessarily, you know, to go watch games, 322 00:16:53,039 --> 00:16:55,600 and you know they're they're exposed to all kinds of 323 00:16:55,639 --> 00:17:01,600 great programs through the Internet, through television Saturday is watching 324 00:17:02,759 --> 00:17:05,400 ESPN Game Day and all those things, so they know 325 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,680 what's going on, but they also know where their best 326 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,640 opportunities lie. And right now it would appear that at 327 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,559 least you know in a lot of ways that the 328 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,400 local kids are saying, by use a place that has 329 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,240 everything that I want. Plus it's local, it's nearby, and 330 00:17:20,519 --> 00:17:24,079 the family can watch me. I appreciate the way that 331 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,319 they set up their program. I'm comfortable among those people. 332 00:17:28,599 --> 00:17:31,000 There are those situations that arise in and by using 333 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:33,000 a good place right now, with that, we all know 334 00:17:33,079 --> 00:17:35,880 that that's not going to always be the case. There's 335 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,319 going to be downtimes and up times, but certainly I 336 00:17:38,319 --> 00:17:40,039 think now you look at it, and by using a 337 00:17:40,039 --> 00:17:41,920 really good place to recruit those local. 338 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: Kids, DA using a great spot moving forward and recruiting 339 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:52,680 at a high level, a lot of positive momentum in 340 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Cooker Country, no doubt about it. Double d Darnell Dixon 341 00:17:56,279 --> 00:17:58,200 The Daily Herali and best way to support you what 342 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,240 you do how you do it? Appreciate you, but not 343 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,839 for a little cougar beat. Uh here on our Utah 344 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,440 Utah ESPN Radio network. 345 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, Herald Extra dot com is where you'll find my 346 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,920 work and you can follow me at Darnell Wrights on 347 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,599 X And I hope that that you have a very 348 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,960 great April Fool's Day, Ben, and don't get fool too often. 349 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, did anyone get you today? Yeah? 350 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,799 Speaker 2: Did the Bonsa, did the agent Debonsa BA Sports Nation 351 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,440 News get you? 352 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,799 Speaker 3: We're like, wait a second, where's it? I got to 353 00:18:30,839 --> 00:18:32,599 search for this well. 354 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,319 Speaker 4: I planned to really go old school and often if 355 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:39,279 you remember a movie from Disney many years back called 356 00:18:39,319 --> 00:18:42,720 World's Greatest Athlete. Yeah, you remember that there was a 357 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:46,960 there was an athlete named Nanu from like Zombia that 358 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,839 that the school recruited. And I was going to make 359 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,799 up this whole story about this guy that Dyu was 360 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,680 recruiting is six five and two sixty and runs a 361 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,759 four two forty barefoot, you know, and that kind of thing. 362 00:18:58,799 --> 00:19:01,079 But I didn't think I be able to convince you. 363 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: So no, I mean I probably I would. 364 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,039 Speaker 2: I would have you know, I would have taken a 365 00:19:05,079 --> 00:19:08,519 hook line hook line and sinker Man, I totally would have. Now, 366 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:10,240 I didn't believe the agent of the bonson news, but 367 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:14,559 I think the more you know, the more plausible news 368 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:17,079 would have been a big time football recruit like a 369 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,759 ziggyansa type that's coming to provo right to be the 370 00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:21,599 next Ziggianza. 371 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: So that's where I was at. But I don't know 372 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,559 if I could have fooled you been You're pretty you're 373 00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:26,200 pretty smart. 374 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,319 Speaker 2: It depends on the day, Darnell, depends on how much 375 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,319 CTE is presenting itself. 376 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:35,799 Speaker 3: In your brains. 377 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 4: Would agree with that? 378 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 379 00:19:39,079 --> 00:19:40,839 Speaker 4: Definitely definitely, no doubt, no doubt about it. 380 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,759 Speaker 2: Hey man, love and appreciate you double d thanks for 381 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:45,599 hopping on all right, have a great day they go. 382 00:19:45,799 --> 00:19:47,720 That segment was brought to you by Dental pros of 383 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:50,519 Utah dentalprosof Utah dot com. 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