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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go beyond the box score with our regular commentator

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie Ray. Jackie Ray, I feel sometimes the world has

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<v Speaker 2>been tuning into this show and they are having events

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<v Speaker 2>and situations just because we already talked about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about this idea of sports and politics, how

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<v Speaker 2>people fans will complain about athletes having political opinions, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're saying, wait, wait, wait, wait wait. You know, athletes

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<v Speaker 2>are people. But there's a second side to this, where

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<v Speaker 2>the federal government is inserting itself into sports. We saw

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<v Speaker 2>that again today with the announcement by President Trump of

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<v Speaker 2>the following listen.

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<v Speaker 3>To this because I feel like early but well that's

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong clip.

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<v Speaker 4>That's Paul Pierce. So now Paul will get you just

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<v Speaker 4>a second.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm pleased to reveal that the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft,

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<v Speaker 5>that's a big thing, will be held right here in

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<v Speaker 5>our nation's capital, Washington, DC, on the Nation Mall.

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<v Speaker 3>And you get a little grim savage.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I was just saying to Roger, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think there's ever been anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good idea. Of fact, maybe we could use

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<v Speaker 3>it for other things.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, I have an idea it's going to be beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to be something that nobody else will ever

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<v Speaker 5>be able to duplicate.

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<v Speaker 4>That I don't suspect.

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<v Speaker 5>It's very exciting. Every year, hundreds of young football players

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<v Speaker 5>have their dreams come true as the NFL teams across

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<v Speaker 5>the land, and you just saw that last week select

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<v Speaker 5>the best young players in America to join their ranks.

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<v Speaker 5>Hundreds of thousands of football fans will travel all across

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<v Speaker 5>our country to cheer them on in person. We expect

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<v Speaker 5>would you say, more than one hundred thousand people?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, let me give us more contexts.

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<v Speaker 2>National Mall, that's what we have presidential inaugurations, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>being announced by the president.

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<v Speaker 4>This is almost a fake question.

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<v Speaker 2>But how can we separate sports and politics if the

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<v Speaker 2>president is now physically inserting himself in to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 6>Draft, Right, this is one of those things that theoretically

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't have a problem with this at all. I

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't have a problem with the president saying, oh, isn't

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<v Speaker 6>this a really cool thing? You know, especially with the

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<v Speaker 6>commanders talking about going back to Washington because they're in

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<v Speaker 6>Maryland right now, correct, So that theoretically he clearly likes football.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a football fan, and he wants to be part

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<v Speaker 6>of the NFL as a owner.

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<v Speaker 4>Forty years ago.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he wanted to buy the Bills at one point.

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<v Speaker 6>So none of this really bothers me on the surface

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<v Speaker 6>of it. The only reason that it bothers me is

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<v Speaker 6>because of the messenger, because it's coming from a man

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<v Speaker 6>who has told everybody athletes need to just play football,

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<v Speaker 6>they shouldn't talk about politics. But then he is inserting

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<v Speaker 6>in himself and basically doing the very thing he has

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<v Speaker 6>told athletes not to do.

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<v Speaker 7>So it bothers me on that front.

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<v Speaker 6>But it also bothers me because Roger Godell in twenty

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<v Speaker 6>sixteen with a Colin Kaepernick situation, he was scrutinized very

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<v Speaker 6>much because of his position and his friendship with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>So for him to just kind of forget all of

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<v Speaker 6>that and pretend that right now he's not just as

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<v Speaker 6>if not more polarizing than he was then is tone deaf.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me jump in there, because people need some context.

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<v Speaker 2>Roger Goodell, it works for the owners. He's the commissioner

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<v Speaker 2>of the league, but he's picked by the owners to

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<v Speaker 2>advance the interests of the league, not the players.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why they have the players Association.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I don't expect Goodell to do anything other than

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<v Speaker 2>Roger Goodell, and that means closing up to Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>because at this time, we've seen it with different law firms,

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen it with universities, and now we're seeing it

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<v Speaker 2>with the NFL. It is in their best interest to

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<v Speaker 2>stay on the good side of the President. But the

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<v Speaker 2>problem is if and when players have an issue with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know we talked about the Eagles going to

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<v Speaker 4>Did not go, so there's still an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't want the players to be marginalized or

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, if it was me and I had a kid

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<v Speaker 7>That's just not going to be a thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm sure if it was a child that came

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<v Speaker 6>So it wouldn't even be a hard sell. But I

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<v Speaker 6>think putting people in that position is the problem. To

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<v Speaker 6>your point, though, I think you would have to be

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<v Speaker 6>completely tone deaf and blind if you couldn't see that

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<v Speaker 6>this makes sense that Roger Goodell, because to your point,

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<v Speaker 6>this is a an owners are billionaires, correct, And Donald

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<v Speaker 6>Trump is placating to the billionaires. None of us in

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<v Speaker 6>this tax bracket he cares about at all, and so

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<v Speaker 6>it's his job to make the billionaires happy. But I

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<v Speaker 6>think as a country, if we cannot see that, that

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't mean the people. When you're placating to the billionaires,

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<v Speaker 6>you're not placating to the people. So, yes, this might

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<v Speaker 6>be good for a couple of days, but it's not

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<v Speaker 6>going to be great for the city as a whole

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<v Speaker 6>long term.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait, let me jump in there, because Roger Goodell

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<v Speaker 2>is not the mayor of Washington, DC. Roger that Roger

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<v Speaker 2>Goodell is not about the business of uplifting anyone, with

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<v Speaker 2>the exception of the financial fortunes or the owners who

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<v Speaker 2>I said before have selected him and chosen him to

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<v Speaker 2>make more money for them. And if embracing President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>in this way, in this manner makes it that there

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<v Speaker 2>aren't any type of tariffs or executive actions which may

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<v Speaker 2>negatively impact the NFL.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think anyone should be surprised.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it might negatively impact the Washington Commanders when they

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<v Speaker 6>move back because of building materials and the tariffs that

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<v Speaker 6>have been placed on certain nations that are going to

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<v Speaker 6>make building materials difficult. But it's not going to impact

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<v Speaker 6>the owners in any other ways. Besides that, well, well, athletically,

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<v Speaker 6>I have to agree and disagree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>It could impact them because you have a team like

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<v Speaker 2>the Washington Commanders who historically has been very sensitive to

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<v Speaker 2>political issues surrounding the team, and I can see a

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<v Speaker 2>situation where if President Trump were to get too cozy

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<v Speaker 2>that the f so the commanders might have a reaction.

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<v Speaker 6>I think if they were going to have a reaction,

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<v Speaker 6>especially the female fan base, they would have had that

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<v Speaker 6>reaction already because of the Washington Commanders have had sexual

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<v Speaker 6>miscontext scandals, and we're talking about a president who is

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<v Speaker 6>would have been loud about that.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>For I don't know why people are downplaying who he

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<v Speaker 6>is and the convictions that he has but it's definitely happening.

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<v Speaker 6>As a mayor, this has to be a profit for

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<v Speaker 6>the city. I live in Long Beach. Long Beach is

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<v Speaker 6>doing the same thing. Long Beach hasn't invested a dime

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<v Speaker 6>in downtown Long Beach forever. But now that the twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty eight Olympics are coming, now we're seeing all this

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<v Speaker 6>push to build infrastructure and make it more livable and

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<v Speaker 6>enjoyable basically on the world stage. But inevitably that'll be

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<v Speaker 6>more enjoyable for us. So I get the benefits of

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<v Speaker 6>the mayor saying, hey, we want this here, but again,

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<v Speaker 6>you have to overlook an abundance of hippoc to do it,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's the problem for me.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, let's talk about Paul Pierce, former

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Celtic, former Inglewood High School graduate. So there's an

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<v Speaker 2>la tie in Nate Smith basketball Hall of Famer. He

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<v Speaker 2>got loose on a podcast and Paul Paul Pierce and

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<v Speaker 2>now he does a lot of also sports commentary for ESPN.

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<v Speaker 4>Or is it Fox?

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's ESPN ESPN.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, anyhow, he has a lot to say about a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff, and what he more recently had to

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<v Speaker 2>say about marriage has raised a lot of eyebrows.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to get your thoughts about it when we

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<v Speaker 4>come back.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Later with Mo Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>You're still going to be on the box Score with

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie Ray, KFIM six forty, Life everywhere in the iHeart

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<v Speaker 4>At mister mom Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>Mister mom Kelly, We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app

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<v Speaker 2>and on YouTube. Shout out to Damon, one of my

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<v Speaker 2>haters who not only listened to the show, heard that

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<v Speaker 2>we were on YouTube, decided to log on and waste

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<v Speaker 2>more time to tell me how much he doesn't like me.

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<v Speaker 4>I really do appreciate that, Damon.

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<v Speaker 7>Push the algorithm.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the difference between him talking and me talking is

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<v Speaker 2>only one of us gets paid.

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<v Speaker 7>Amen.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, not to the show, Jackie Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Pierce, who talked about he's known as an LA

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<v Speaker 2>commodity is an NBA Commodity Hall of Famer. Now he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing the podcast and sports commentary thing. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>he had to say on one of the podcasts about

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<v Speaker 2>this that and the other about marriage and I about

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<v Speaker 2>lost it. I'm gonna play it for you and want

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<v Speaker 2>to get your thoughts hopefully have the right clip.

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<v Speaker 8>Because I feel like aur relationship shouldn't be based off sex.

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<v Speaker 8>But every relationship is based off of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think, so you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me nothing different.

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<v Speaker 8>This is what I feel and that's why I'll never

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<v Speaker 8>be in another relationship because it's always.

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<v Speaker 3>Based off of that.

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<v Speaker 7>So you're not going to be in another relationship, no for.

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<v Speaker 8>What, because it's gonna be based off the sex. On's

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<v Speaker 8>that way down. You're gonna go fud somebody else that's better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>but they ain't gonna be based off of this. This

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<v Speaker 8>is the thing. And listen careful.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I want you to listen to this condescension and

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<v Speaker 3>And listen carefully. Listen carefully.

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<v Speaker 8>Let me say you what marriage is all about, or

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<v Speaker 8>let me say what marriage is and who's marriage for

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<v Speaker 8>marriage is for old people and poor people.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so let's get into that.

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<v Speaker 8>Why Because when you broke our parents, like my mom's

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<v Speaker 8>and all them, they married on a marriage of like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>we're gonna put our incomes together and have all these

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<v Speaker 8>kids and then with our kids. We have five ten

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<v Speaker 8>kids back in the sixties, all of them they got

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<v Speaker 8>five to ten kids so they can work and bring income. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>so you poor, So you married for that, and now

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<v Speaker 8>when you get old, somebody that to beat all your

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<v Speaker 8>got married. My mom's never been married in my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 8>She got married when she was seventy.

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<v Speaker 7>Wait wait, wait, and he's still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait wait, my mom has never been married in

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<v Speaker 7>Is he talking to us from the great mind?

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<v Speaker 2>And I dismissed that my mom has never been married

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<v Speaker 2>in my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 4>She got married when she was.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom's never been married in my lifetime. She's got

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<v Speaker 7>So life is over. Life is over for him. He's

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<v Speaker 4>How can those two things be true at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom's never been married in my lifetime. She got

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<v Speaker 7>And he said it was such confidence. It's the confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was talking about Listen, listen right here, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>My mom, I've never been married in my lifetime. She

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, And she's saying wow, because Paul Pierce, you're not

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<v Speaker 4>But what is your takeaway?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, first of all, isn't Paul Pierce married?

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<v Speaker 2>No, he is divorced. He had three kids, got married

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<v Speaker 2>into twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 7>So did he get married because he was poor at

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<v Speaker 7>that time?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's a philosopher now he obviously has a degree

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<v Speaker 2>of wisdom about marriage, and he's using that to further

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<v Speaker 2>spread his knowledge. I don't know, but this is a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who was caught when he was working for ESPN.

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<v Speaker 4>He works for Fox. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>When he was working for ESPN, he had a like

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<v Speaker 4>And I think he was married at that time.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I remember that.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know, I think some people in the chat

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<v Speaker 6>that announced that their departing might take advice from Paul

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<v Speaker 6>Pierce on marriage. But I don't think anyone with common

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<v Speaker 6>then he's still here. This is a man that you

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<v Speaker 6>stopped listening to anything. If he if he says the

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<v Speaker 6>for yourself because you cannot trust what he's saying. But

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<v Speaker 6>what he's really saying is I'm jaded. I am a

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<v Speaker 6>man who I married for sex and then and she

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<v Speaker 6>probably she might have married him for money. Maybe maybe,

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<v Speaker 6>but then when the money, when the money and the

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<v Speaker 6>sex was enough, and then maybe she left.

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<v Speaker 7>Now he's just bitter.

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<v Speaker 6>And now he's saying, no one gets married for any

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<v Speaker 6>other reason. No one could possibly get married for love

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<v Speaker 6>or to start.

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<v Speaker 2>A family, right, you know, because if you get married

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<v Speaker 2>in your twenties, it's not because your poorness, right, sily right,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the poor man's mentality.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, And the math and math, and he said, you

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<v Speaker 6>get married when you're young so you can have a

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<v Speaker 6>bring in money. Do you know how long you have

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<v Speaker 6>to provide for those children before they can work?

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<v Speaker 4>At least twenty twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 7>The math is not mathing.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom's never been married about lifetime. She married when

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<v Speaker 3>she was seventy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to keep that forever.

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<v Speaker 7>She it might have been he might have Go ahead, Sam,

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<v Speaker 7>you gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Say, I gotta say this.

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<v Speaker 9>It sounds like I was saying to myself from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 9>I saying, Wow, it sounds like he's never really had

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<v Speaker 9>an intellectual connection with any of his romantic partners throughout

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<v Speaker 9>his life.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but I think I might be swinging backwards on

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<v Speaker 4>this one.

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<v Speaker 9>I think no woman is intellectually connected with him, right

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<v Speaker 9>if he's seen stuff like my you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>my mom has never been married in my lifetime and

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<v Speaker 9>now she's married at seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>But Sam, you are the resident sex doctor. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking at this through a different prism that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of us. He Paul pires has invoked sex

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<v Speaker 2>as in the principal reason why anyone gets in any relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't even say marriage, He just said relationship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is the arbiter of whether he stays or

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<v Speaker 2>or he moves on. That says to me that he

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<v Speaker 2>has a fractured mentality and a warped mentalities around any

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<v Speaker 2>type of quote unquote healthy relationship, maybe after thirteen years

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA and dealing with groupies on top of

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<v Speaker 9>Not In addition to well, it's also the idea that

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<v Speaker 9>it was a joke that Norm MacDonald came up with.

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<v Speaker 9>You don't pay people for sex to stay over, you

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<v Speaker 9>pay them to leave. And it seems like he's had

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<v Speaker 9>enough with actual relationships and he's just looking because he

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<v Speaker 9>has enough money to be able to pay for whatever

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<v Speaker 9>sexual needs he has. He's not looking for any intellectual

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<v Speaker 9>connection or partnership. That's why he's saying stuff like I

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<v Speaker 9>think poor people have relationships, I think old people have relationships.

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<v Speaker 9>He has the money, and he is still physically able

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<v Speaker 9>to carry all those sexual desires out that he wants,

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<v Speaker 9>and once he gets old, that's when he's gonna be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 9>I need to slow down.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna say maybe on that he's still able to

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<v Speaker 6>carry out whatever because that well, he hadn't a lot

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<v Speaker 6>because men who are able don't talk like Paul Pierce's back.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to hear your thoughts on this.

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<v Speaker 9>I think he's had a lot of trauma in his

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<v Speaker 9>life and that's where it's all coming out, and his

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<v Speaker 9>whole view of relationships it's just very skewed.

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<v Speaker 6>And he could have been the one that he could

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<v Speaker 6>be exactly who he says he is, and he could

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<v Speaker 6>have had these toxic relationships. He's attracted women to him

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<v Speaker 6>that maybe he had from having these let's have all

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<v Speaker 6>these women that are for sale parties, and then maybe

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<v Speaker 6>he got married to one. Who knows the reason, but

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<v Speaker 6>he's definitely jaded, and now he just thinks that. And

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<v Speaker 6>that's the problem with our society as a whole. You

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<v Speaker 6>think that your circumstances dictate what everybody else is going through.

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<v Speaker 2>And just because you experienced something, it doesn't make you

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<v Speaker 2>an expert on the right thing. Having some experience doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make you the expert. I'm quite sure he's been with

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of women. I don't doubt that at all, But

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<v Speaker 2>he's definitely not an expert on connection or relationship or

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<v Speaker 2>the merits of marriage.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I were to ask him his thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, twenty different other subjects, he probably would

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<v Speaker 2>be on that same level as in barely coherent.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom's never been married in my lifetime. She got

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<v Speaker 3>married with seventy.

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<v Speaker 7>Talking to a whole ghost.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know is Mom the ghost or is he

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<v Speaker 2>the ghost? Because in his lifetime would seem to mention

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<v Speaker 2>that he's.

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<v Speaker 6>Dead now right, somebody's gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that much one more time.

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<v Speaker 3>Mom's never been married in my lifetime. She got married

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<v Speaker 3>with seventy.

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<v Speaker 7>It's the confidence for me, like you know, listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 8>So you poor, so you married for that and now

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<v Speaker 8>when you get old, somebody that to beat on your

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<v Speaker 3>Care of you.

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<v Speaker 8>Right now, Mama got married. My Mom've never been married

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<v Speaker 8>in my lifetime. She got married when she was seventy.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 7>No, not wow, it was the wow too, like she

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<v Speaker 7>just wouldn't go.

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<v Speaker 4>She was probably saying, wow, you are an idiot, right.

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<v Speaker 7>Like who booked you?

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<v Speaker 9>Wow?

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<v Speaker 7>I can't believe you.

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<v Speaker 2>Said that, after saying listen, listen, okay, it's Later with

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