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Speaker 2: Let's go beyond the box score with our regular commentator
Speaker 2: Jackie Ray. Jackie Ray, I feel sometimes the world has
Speaker 2: been tuning into this show and they are having events
Speaker 2: and situations just because we already talked about it, and
Speaker 2: we talked about this idea of sports and politics, how
Speaker 2: people fans will complain about athletes having political opinions, and
Speaker 2: we're saying, wait, wait, wait, wait wait. You know, athletes
Speaker 2: are people. But there's a second side to this, where
Speaker 2: the federal government is inserting itself into sports. We saw
Speaker 2: that again today with the announcement by President Trump of
Speaker 2: the following listen.
Speaker 3: To this because I feel like early but well that's
Speaker 3: the wrong clip.
Speaker 4: That's Paul Pierce. So now Paul will get you just
Speaker 4: a second.
Speaker 5: I'm pleased to reveal that the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft,
Speaker 5: that's a big thing, will be held right here in
Speaker 5: our nation's capital, Washington, DC, on the Nation Mall.
Speaker 3: And you get a little grim savage.
Speaker 5: I don't think I was just saying to Roger, I
Speaker 5: don't think there's ever been anything like that.
Speaker 3: That's a good idea. Of fact, maybe we could use
Speaker 3: it for other things.
Speaker 5: Also, I have an idea it's going to be beautiful.
Speaker 5: It's going to be something that nobody else will ever
Speaker 5: be able to duplicate.
Speaker 4: That I don't suspect.
Speaker 5: It's very exciting. Every year, hundreds of young football players
Speaker 5: have their dreams come true as the NFL teams across
Speaker 5: the land, and you just saw that last week select
Speaker 5: the best young players in America to join their ranks.
Speaker 5: Hundreds of thousands of football fans will travel all across
Speaker 5: our country to cheer them on in person. We expect
Speaker 5: would you say, more than one hundred thousand people?
Speaker 4: Okay, let me give us more contexts.
Speaker 2: National Mall, that's what we have presidential inaugurations, and it's
Speaker 2: being announced by the president.
Speaker 4: This is almost a fake question.
Speaker 2: But how can we separate sports and politics if the
Speaker 2: president is now physically inserting himself in to the NFL.
Speaker 6: Draft, Right, this is one of those things that theoretically
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have a problem with this at all. I
Speaker 6: wouldn't have a problem with the president saying, oh, isn't
Speaker 6: this a really cool thing? You know, especially with the
Speaker 6: commanders talking about going back to Washington because they're in
Speaker 6: Maryland right now, correct, So that theoretically he clearly likes football.
Speaker 6: He's a football fan, and he wants to be part
Speaker 6: of the NFL as a owner.
Speaker 4: Forty years ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he wanted to buy the Bills at one point.
Speaker 6: So none of this really bothers me on the surface
Speaker 6: of it. The only reason that it bothers me is
Speaker 6: because of the messenger, because it's coming from a man
Speaker 6: who has told everybody athletes need to just play football,
Speaker 6: they shouldn't talk about politics. But then he is inserting
Speaker 6: in himself and basically doing the very thing he has
Speaker 6: told athletes not to do.
Speaker 7: So it bothers me on that front.
Speaker 6: But it also bothers me because Roger Godell in twenty
Speaker 6: sixteen with a Colin Kaepernick situation, he was scrutinized very
Speaker 6: much because of his position and his friendship with Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: So for him to just kind of forget all of
Speaker 6: that and pretend that right now he's not just as
Speaker 6: if not more polarizing than he was then is tone deaf.
Speaker 2: Let me jump in there, because people need some context.
Speaker 2: Roger Goodell, it works for the owners. He's the commissioner
Speaker 2: of the league, but he's picked by the owners to
Speaker 2: advance the interests of the league, not the players.
Speaker 4: That's why they have the players Association.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't expect Goodell to do anything other than
Speaker 2: Roger Goodell, and that means closing up to Donald Trump
Speaker 2: because at this time, we've seen it with different law firms,
Speaker 2: We've seen it with universities, and now we're seeing it
Speaker 2: with the NFL. It is in their best interest to
Speaker 2: stay on the good side of the President. But the
Speaker 2: problem is if and when players have an issue with that.
Speaker 2: And we know we talked about the Eagles going to
Speaker 2: the White House, some forty players did not go.
Speaker 4: Did not go, so there's still an issue.
Speaker 2: I just don't want the players to be marginalized or
Speaker 2: singled out for doing or acknowledging that the NFL is
Speaker 2: basically is taking a political stamp.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if it was me and I had a kid
Speaker 6: that was going to be in the twenty twenty seven draft,
Speaker 6: we would be drafting from home.
Speaker 7: That's just not going to be a thing.
Speaker 6: And I'm sure if it was a child that came
Speaker 6: from my womb, he would have no problem with that,
Speaker 6: So it wouldn't even be a hard sell. But I
Speaker 6: think putting people in that position is the problem. To
Speaker 6: your point, though, I think you would have to be
Speaker 6: completely tone deaf and blind if you couldn't see that
Speaker 6: this makes sense that Roger Goodell, because to your point,
Speaker 6: this is a an owners are billionaires, correct, And Donald
Speaker 6: Trump is placating to the billionaires. None of us in
Speaker 6: this tax bracket he cares about at all, and so
Speaker 6: it's his job to make the billionaires happy. But I
Speaker 6: think as a country, if we cannot see that, that
Speaker 6: doesn't mean the people. When you're placating to the billionaires,
Speaker 6: you're not placating to the people. So, yes, this might
Speaker 6: be good for a couple of days, but it's not
Speaker 6: going to be great for the city as a whole
Speaker 6: long term.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, let me jump in there, because Roger Goodell
Speaker 2: is not the mayor of Washington, DC. Roger that Roger
Speaker 2: Goodell is not about the business of uplifting anyone, with
Speaker 2: the exception of the financial fortunes or the owners who
Speaker 2: I said before have selected him and chosen him to
Speaker 2: make more money for them. And if embracing President Trump
Speaker 2: in this way, in this manner makes it that there
Speaker 2: aren't any type of tariffs or executive actions which may
Speaker 2: negatively impact the NFL.
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone should be surprised.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it might negatively impact the Washington Commanders when they
Speaker 6: move back because of building materials and the tariffs that
Speaker 6: have been placed on certain nations that are going to
Speaker 6: make building materials difficult. But it's not going to impact
Speaker 6: the owners in any other ways. Besides that, well, well, athletically,
Speaker 6: I have to agree and disagree with you.
Speaker 2: It could impact them because you have a team like
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders who historically has been very sensitive to
Speaker 2: political issues surrounding the team, and I can see a
Speaker 2: situation where if President Trump were to get too cozy
Speaker 2: that the f so the commanders might have a reaction.
Speaker 6: I think if they were going to have a reaction,
Speaker 6: especially the female fan base, they would have had that
Speaker 6: reaction already because of the Washington Commanders have had sexual
Speaker 6: miscontext scandals, and we're talking about a president who is
Speaker 6: a convicted felon in that manner, So if they were
Speaker 6: going to have an issue with it, I think they
Speaker 6: would have been loud about that.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 6: For I don't know why people are downplaying who he
Speaker 6: is and the convictions that he has but it's definitely happening.
Speaker 6: As a mayor, this has to be a profit for
Speaker 6: the city. I live in Long Beach. Long Beach is
Speaker 6: doing the same thing. Long Beach hasn't invested a dime
Speaker 6: in downtown Long Beach forever. But now that the twenty
Speaker 6: twenty eight Olympics are coming, now we're seeing all this
Speaker 6: push to build infrastructure and make it more livable and
Speaker 6: enjoyable basically on the world stage. But inevitably that'll be
Speaker 6: more enjoyable for us. So I get the benefits of
Speaker 6: the mayor saying, hey, we want this here, but again,
Speaker 6: you have to overlook an abundance of hippoc to do it,
Speaker 6: and that's the problem for me.
Speaker 2: When we come back, let's talk about Paul Pierce, former
Speaker 2: Boston Celtic, former Inglewood High School graduate. So there's an
Speaker 2: la tie in Nate Smith basketball Hall of Famer. He
Speaker 2: got loose on a podcast and Paul Paul Pierce and
Speaker 2: now he does a lot of also sports commentary for ESPN.
Speaker 4: Or is it Fox?
Speaker 7: I think it's ESPN ESPN.
Speaker 2: Well, anyhow, he has a lot to say about a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff, and what he more recently had to
Speaker 2: say about marriage has raised a lot of eyebrows.
Speaker 4: I want to get your thoughts about it when we
Speaker 4: come back.
Speaker 7: Let's do it.
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Speaker 4: Now, not to the show, Jackie Ray.
Speaker 2: Paul Pierce, who talked about he's known as an LA
Speaker 2: commodity is an NBA Commodity Hall of Famer. Now he's
Speaker 2: doing the podcast and sports commentary thing. This is what
Speaker 2: he had to say on one of the podcasts about
Speaker 2: this that and the other about marriage and I about
Speaker 2: lost it. I'm gonna play it for you and want
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts hopefully have the right clip.
Speaker 8: Because I feel like aur relationship shouldn't be based off sex.
Speaker 8: But every relationship is based off of that.
Speaker 4: I don't think, so you can't.
Speaker 3: Tell me nothing different.
Speaker 8: This is what I feel and that's why I'll never
Speaker 8: be in another relationship because it's always.
Speaker 3: Based off of that.
Speaker 7: So you're not going to be in another relationship, no for.
Speaker 8: What, because it's gonna be based off the sex. On's
Speaker 8: that way down. You're gonna go fud somebody else that's better. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but they ain't gonna be based off of this. This
Speaker 8: is the thing. And listen careful.
Speaker 2: Now, I want you to listen to this condescension and
Speaker 2: dismissiveness here.
Speaker 3: And listen carefully. Listen carefully.
Speaker 8: Let me say you what marriage is all about, or
Speaker 8: let me say what marriage is and who's marriage for
Speaker 8: marriage is for old people and poor people.
Speaker 7: Okay, so let's get into that.
Speaker 8: Why Because when you broke our parents, like my mom's
Speaker 8: and all them, they married on a marriage of like, Okay,
Speaker 8: we're gonna put our incomes together and have all these
Speaker 8: kids and then with our kids. We have five ten
Speaker 8: kids back in the sixties, all of them they got
Speaker 8: five to ten kids so they can work and bring income. Yeah,
Speaker 8: so you poor, So you married for that, and now
Speaker 8: when you get old, somebody that to beat all your
Speaker 8: side to take care of you. Right now, my moa
Speaker 8: got married. My mom's never been married in my lifetime.
Speaker 8: She got married when she was seventy.
Speaker 7: Wait wait, wait, and he's still alive.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait, my mom has never been married in
Speaker 2: my lifetime.
Speaker 7: Is he talking to us from the great mind?
Speaker 2: And I dismissed that my mom has never been married
Speaker 2: in my lifetime.
Speaker 4: She got married when she was.
Speaker 3: My mom's never been married in my lifetime. She's got
Speaker 3: married when she was seventy.
Speaker 7: So life is over. Life is over for him. He's
Speaker 7: done now.
Speaker 4: How can those two things be true at the same time.
Speaker 3: My mom's never been married in my lifetime. She got
Speaker 3: married when she was seventy.
Speaker 7: And he said it was such confidence. It's the confidence.
Speaker 2: But he was talking about Listen, listen right here, I'm
Speaker 2: going to explain this and break it down for you.
Speaker 3: My mom, I've never been married in my lifetime. She
Speaker 3: got married with shee was seventy.
Speaker 2: Wow, And she's saying wow, because Paul Pierce, you're not
Speaker 2: the You're the dullest pencil in the box.
Speaker 4: But what is your takeaway?
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, isn't Paul Pierce married?
Speaker 2: No, he is divorced. He had three kids, got married
Speaker 2: into twenty ten.
Speaker 7: So did he get married because he was poor at
Speaker 7: that time?
Speaker 2: Maybe he's a philosopher now he obviously has a degree
Speaker 2: of wisdom about marriage, and he's using that to further
Speaker 2: spread his knowledge. I don't know, but this is a
Speaker 2: guy who was caught when he was working for ESPN.
Speaker 4: He works for Fox. Now.
Speaker 2: When he was working for ESPN, he had a like
Speaker 2: a strippers party, and he was live streaming his strippers
Speaker 2: party with booties in his st I.
Speaker 7: Was calling more booties, yeah to the party.
Speaker 4: And I think he was married at that time.
Speaker 7: Yes, I remember that.
Speaker 6: So you know, I think some people in the chat
Speaker 6: that announced that their departing might take advice from Paul
Speaker 6: Pierce on marriage. But I don't think anyone with common
Speaker 6: sense would because again, this is a man who said
Speaker 6: that his mom hasn't been married in his lifetime, and
Speaker 6: then he's still here. This is a man that you
Speaker 6: stopped listening to anything. If he if he says the
Speaker 6: sky is blue, you need to go outside and look
Speaker 6: for yourself because you cannot trust what he's saying. But
Speaker 6: what he's really saying is I'm jaded. I am a
Speaker 6: man who I married for sex and then and she
Speaker 6: probably she might have married him for money. Maybe maybe,
Speaker 6: but then when the money, when the money and the
Speaker 6: sex was enough, and then maybe she left.
Speaker 7: Now he's just bitter.
Speaker 6: And now he's saying, no one gets married for any
Speaker 6: other reason. No one could possibly get married for love
Speaker 6: or to start.
Speaker 2: A family, right, you know, because if you get married
Speaker 2: in your twenties, it's not because your poorness, right, sily right,
Speaker 2: And that's the poor man's mentality.
Speaker 6: Yes, And the math and math, and he said, you
Speaker 6: get married when you're young so you can have a
Speaker 6: whole bunch of kids, so then they can work and
Speaker 6: bring in money. Do you know how long you have
Speaker 6: to provide for those children before they can work?
Speaker 4: At least twenty twenty five years.
Speaker 7: The math is not mathing.
Speaker 3: My mom's never been married about lifetime. She married when
Speaker 3: she was seventy.
Speaker 4: I'm going to keep that forever.
Speaker 7: She it might have been he might have Go ahead, Sam,
Speaker 7: you gonna.
Speaker 4: Say, I gotta say this.
Speaker 9: It sounds like I was saying to myself from the beginning,
Speaker 9: I saying, Wow, it sounds like he's never really had
Speaker 9: an intellectual connection with any of his romantic partners throughout
Speaker 9: his life.
Speaker 4: No, but I think I might be swinging backwards on
Speaker 4: this one.
Speaker 9: I think no woman is intellectually connected with him, right
Speaker 9: if he's seen stuff like my you know, you know,
Speaker 9: my mom has never been married in my lifetime and
Speaker 9: now she's married at seventy.
Speaker 2: But Sam, you are the resident sex doctor. Okay, so
Speaker 2: you're looking at this through a different prism that maybe
Speaker 2: the rest of us. He Paul pires has invoked sex
Speaker 2: as in the principal reason why anyone gets in any relationship.
Speaker 2: He didn't even say marriage, He just said relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that is the arbiter of whether he stays or
Speaker 2: or he moves on. That says to me that he
Speaker 2: has a fractured mentality and a warped mentalities around any
Speaker 2: type of quote unquote healthy relationship, maybe after thirteen years
Speaker 2: in the NBA and dealing with groupies on top of
Speaker 2: his wife.
Speaker 9: Not In addition to well, it's also the idea that
Speaker 9: it was a joke that Norm MacDonald came up with.
Speaker 9: You don't pay people for sex to stay over, you
Speaker 9: pay them to leave. And it seems like he's had
Speaker 9: enough with actual relationships and he's just looking because he
Speaker 9: has enough money to be able to pay for whatever
Speaker 9: sexual needs he has. He's not looking for any intellectual
Speaker 9: connection or partnership. That's why he's saying stuff like I
Speaker 9: think poor people have relationships, I think old people have relationships.
Speaker 9: He has the money, and he is still physically able
Speaker 9: to carry all those sexual desires out that he wants,
Speaker 9: and once he gets old, that's when he's gonna be like, Okay,
Speaker 9: I need to slow down.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say maybe on that he's still able to
Speaker 6: carry out whatever because that well, he hadn't a lot
Speaker 6: because men who are able don't talk like Paul Pierce's back.
Speaker 4: I want to hear your thoughts on this.
Speaker 9: I think he's had a lot of trauma in his
Speaker 9: life and that's where it's all coming out, and his
Speaker 9: whole view of relationships it's just very skewed.
Speaker 6: And he could have been the one that he could
Speaker 6: be exactly who he says he is, and he could
Speaker 6: have had these toxic relationships. He's attracted women to him
Speaker 6: that maybe he had from having these let's have all
Speaker 6: these women that are for sale parties, and then maybe
Speaker 6: he got married to one. Who knows the reason, but
Speaker 6: he's definitely jaded, and now he just thinks that. And
Speaker 6: that's the problem with our society as a whole. You
Speaker 6: think that your circumstances dictate what everybody else is going through.
Speaker 2: And just because you experienced something, it doesn't make you
Speaker 2: an expert on the right thing. Having some experience doesn't
Speaker 2: make you the expert. I'm quite sure he's been with
Speaker 2: plenty of women. I don't doubt that at all, But
Speaker 2: he's definitely not an expert on connection or relationship or
Speaker 2: the merits of marriage.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: And if I were to ask him his thoughts on
Speaker 2: I don't know, twenty different other subjects, he probably would
Speaker 2: be on that same level as in barely coherent.
Speaker 3: My mom's never been married in my lifetime. She got
Speaker 3: married with seventy.
Speaker 7: Talking to a whole ghost.
Speaker 2: I don't know is Mom the ghost or is he
Speaker 2: the ghost? Because in his lifetime would seem to mention
Speaker 2: that he's.
Speaker 6: Dead now right, somebody's gone.
Speaker 4: Oh that much one more time.
Speaker 3: Mom's never been married in my lifetime. She got married
Speaker 3: with seventy.
Speaker 7: It's the confidence for me, like you know, listen, listen.
Speaker 8: So you poor, so you married for that and now
Speaker 8: when you get old, somebody that to beat on your
Speaker 8: side to take.
Speaker 3: Care of you.
Speaker 8: Right now, Mama got married. My Mom've never been married
Speaker 8: in my lifetime. She got married when she was seventy.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 7: No, not wow, it was the wow too, like she
Speaker 7: just wouldn't go.
Speaker 4: She was probably saying, wow, you are an idiot, right.
Speaker 7: Like who booked you?
Speaker 9: Wow?
Speaker 7: I can't believe you.
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