Speaker 1: Good evening everybody, and welcome to another edition of The
Speaker 1: Cajun Knight Live. I am your host, the Cajun Knight,
Speaker 1: Jacob Mook, And this has been a pretty crazy week
Speaker 1: as far as the geopolitical conversation goes, right, and we're
Speaker 1: not gonna go in depth on Pope Francis dying.
Speaker 2: Everybody's talking about that right now.
Speaker 1: The Cult of Conspiracy just released an episode on it,
Speaker 1: so there's no real sense in bringing that up at
Speaker 1: this time. Not to mention also, there's no new intel
Speaker 1: on that at this moment. The College of Cardinals are
Speaker 1: still in conclave, a lot of seas on that, and
Speaker 1: they're still debating on who the next Pope is going
Speaker 1: to be, so no real new revelations to bring up. However,
Speaker 1: the same within the same twenty four hour span that
Speaker 1: Pope Francis died, we also had Klaus Schwab step down
Speaker 1: from the WEF and we talked about that on the
Speaker 1: cultic Conspiracy as well. Now, I don't know if anybody's
Speaker 1: been keeping up with it, but apparently they are are.
Speaker 1: He is under investigation and probably about to be under
Speaker 1: indictment by the w e F for his behavior while
Speaker 1: he was at the Helm. I didn't know this for
Speaker 1: a fact, although I think all of us could have
Speaker 1: guessed that he was kind of a piece of shit
Speaker 1: as a human, and like some of these allegations, you
Speaker 1: probably could have just guessed about it without ever hearing anything.
Speaker 1: But the fact that he decided to resign as more
Speaker 1: and more of these things were mounting up. And now
Speaker 1: that things are coming to light, it's beautiful. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about I got a article pulled up on that.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of articles that were sent in
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Speaker 1: talk about some things, read some articles, get into some
Speaker 1: interesting conversation. We are gonna start off with China we're
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Speaker 1: So let's get into it now. This is a Reuter's article,
Speaker 1: and yes, I understand Reuter's is a very liberal, left
Speaker 1: leaning uh you know news source.
Speaker 2: I understand that. But that's also the thing.
Speaker 1: Whenever the liberal media starts talking about China, I find
Speaker 1: it to be interesting because most of the liberal media
Speaker 1: has been trying to get deeper and deeper in bed
Speaker 1: with China for years. So when they start actually taking
Speaker 1: some of a even possible oppositional stance to them, that's
Speaker 1: a pretty clear sign of the times to me. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Now, let's get into it here.
Speaker 1: This was written two day As a matter of fact, Now,
Speaker 1: this is an interesting article because China is claiming that
Speaker 1: America is doing some economic bullying to other countries, even
Speaker 1: though China literally did this exact thing with the steel
Speaker 1: industry just a couple of years ago. And for anybody
Speaker 1: who doesn't remember that, I'm not going to go into
Speaker 1: the the in like in details of it, but just
Speaker 1: the overarching theme here. Basically, China a couple of years
Speaker 1: back made it to where they were buying all of
Speaker 1: the steel on earth, and they were processing it, not all,
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent, but like the vast majority of
Speaker 1: it as a way to flood the market with cheap
Speaker 1: Chinese steel and try to bankrupt any other steel producers. Right,
Speaker 1: American steel faced some serious hardships at that time, and
Speaker 1: as a response, we even put in embargoes and not terrafs. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say inmbargoes, that's in correct word.
Speaker 1: We put in restrictions to where and I remember this.
Speaker 1: I was working in industry at a time, and a
Speaker 1: new plant that was being built, we couldn't use any
Speaker 1: steel that came from China. The reason we were told
Speaker 1: was because the Chinese quality of steel isn't up to
Speaker 1: par and we can't use it on this site. With
Speaker 1: the type of materials and the type of you know,
Speaker 1: the type of industry that this was, Chinese steel can't
Speaker 1: work on this site. Right, So anything that had a
Speaker 1: Chinese label on we had to throw away. That was incorrect.
Speaker 1: The Chinese steel was just as good as American steel
Speaker 1: at that time, but it was because it was a
Speaker 1: part of the political, you know game that had just
Speaker 1: been struck down. We had to get rid of all
Speaker 1: of our Chinese steel, okay, and that was kind of
Speaker 1: a way to make sure that American steel workers could eat.
Speaker 2: But let's you know, talk about that a little bit
Speaker 2: more so.
Speaker 1: China literally did economic bullying on the steel market. Now
Speaker 1: that the tables are turned, let's talk about it here.
Speaker 1: It says China warrns countries against striking deals with US
Speaker 1: at its expense. So they're literally saying that America's bullying
Speaker 1: them and warning other countries, which is a form of
Speaker 1: bullying because they're being bullied.
Speaker 2: But you know, let's dive in here, shall we. This
Speaker 2: is from Beijing.
Speaker 1: China on Monday accused Washington of abusing tariffs and warned
Speaker 1: countries against striking a broader economic deal with the United
Speaker 1: States at its expense, ratcheting up its rhetoric in a
Speaker 1: spiraling tre war between the world's two biggest economies. Beijing
Speaker 1: will firmly oppose any party striking a deal at China's
Speaker 1: expense and will take countermeasures in a resolute and reciprocal manner,
Speaker 1: It's Commerce Ministry said. The ministry was responding to a
Speaker 1: Bloomberg report citing sources familiar with the matter that Trump
Speaker 1: administration is preparing to pressure nations seeking tariff reductions or
Speaker 1: exemptions from the US to curb trade with China, including
Speaker 1: imposing monetary sanctions. President Donald Trump paused the sweeping tariffs
Speaker 1: he announced on dozens of countries on April second, except
Speaker 1: those on China, singling out the world's second largest economy
Speaker 1: for the biggest levels and yeah, absolutely right, we've talked
Speaker 1: about that already. He put down this mass tariff thing
Speaker 1: for every country on Earth. Then he kind of pulled
Speaker 1: back and was like, listen, I'll give you a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks to decide if you want to come to
Speaker 1: the negotiation table or not. But you need to come
Speaker 1: to the table. A lot of countries are willing to
Speaker 1: make a deal. They're willing to see the era of
Speaker 1: their ways, and they're willing to you.
Speaker 3: Know, not.
Speaker 1: Screw themselves out of their economic and financial futures. So
Speaker 1: positive things. They're cool, cool, cool. China's the only one
Speaker 1: that's been balking back. And uh yeah, I know last
Speaker 1: week he brought it up to like one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty five or two hundred and forty five some astronomical tariffs. Right, fine,
Speaker 1: good things. This is him flexing to see which one's
Speaker 1: gonna blink first. China has blinked first. Very good things.
Speaker 1: And now China has been going on saying, you know,
Speaker 1: not threatening, but I also don't know another word to
Speaker 1: use in place of that other countries that like, hey,
Speaker 1: if we don't come to negotiation table with America, none
Speaker 1: of y'all do, or y'all won't be able to buy
Speaker 1: Chinese goods anymore. And it's like mm hmm, all right,
Speaker 1: so you just lost your biggest buyer, i e. The
Speaker 1: United States, and now you're threatening your other buyers. It's
Speaker 1: bold strategic. I'm gonna see if it works out for him.
Speaker 1: In a series of moves, while Washington has raised tariffs
Speaker 1: on Chinese imports to one hundred and forty five, prompting
Speaker 1: Bejime to slab retaliatory duties of one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: five percent on US goods, effectively erecting trade embargoes against
Speaker 1: each other. Last week, China signed or signaled rather that
Speaker 1: its own across the board rates would not rise further.
Speaker 1: Is a direct quote here says the United States has
Speaker 1: abused tariffs on all trading partners under the banner of
Speaker 1: so called equivalents, while also forcing all parties to start
Speaker 1: so called reciprocal tariffs negotiations with them. The ministry spokesperson said,
Speaker 1: all right, so yeah, real quick, the United States has
Speaker 1: abused tariffs on all trading partners under the banner of
Speaker 1: so called equivalents. If my math be mathing right, and
Speaker 1: I understand I am not the best with numbers, But
Speaker 1: if we have had little to know tariffs on most
Speaker 1: countries and they have put tariffs on US, is selling
Speaker 1: their country but we don't have any for them to
Speaker 1: sell in our country. Do I have a misunderstanding of
Speaker 1: what the word equivalence means? Or are we you know,
Speaker 1: are we just gonna start cherry picking situations here? But okay,
Speaker 1: China is determined and capable of safeguarding its own rights
Speaker 1: and interests and is willing to strengthen solidarity with all
Speaker 1: its partners or parties, the ministry said.
Speaker 2: The fact is nobody wants to pick a side, said.
Speaker 1: Bo Zen Gwen. Yeah, one of these days, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get better pronouncing names, so that's not going to be
Speaker 1: two day, A partner at China based policy consultancy PLUM.
Speaker 1: If countries have high reliance on China in terms of investment,
Speaker 1: industrial infrastructure, technology know how and consumption, I don't think
Speaker 1: they'll be buying into US demands. Many Southeast Asian countries
Speaker 1: belong to this category. Many Southeast Asian countries do not
Speaker 1: like China. Like on mass, I would actually argue that
Speaker 1: maybe one or two of them do. The majority of
Speaker 1: them really don't like China, and if anything, they would
Speaker 1: like to get closer ties with America. So I don't
Speaker 1: really know why. Yeah, never mind, I understand why China
Speaker 1: thinks that they're the hottest shit, but you know it's
Speaker 1: it's not exactly accurate anymore. Pursuing a hardline stance, Beijing
Speaker 1: will seek convene excuse me, Beijing will this week convene
Speaker 1: an informant informal United Nations Security Council meeting to accuse
Speaker 1: Washington of bullying and casting a shadow over the global
Speaker 1: efforts for peace and development by weaponizing tariffs. So you
Speaker 1: don't like America when they actually wage real war, and
Speaker 1: you also don't like them when they try to do
Speaker 1: things without waging real war. You know, there's no pleasing
Speaker 1: these people anyway. Earlier this month, the United States Trade
Speaker 1: Representative Jamison Greer said the nearly fifty countries have approached
Speaker 1: him to discuss the steep additional tariffs imposed by Trump.
Speaker 1: Several bilateral talks on tariffs have taken place since, with
Speaker 1: Japan considering raising soybean and rice imports as part of
Speaker 1: its talks to the United States, while Indonesia is planning
Speaker 1: to increase US food and commodities' imports to reduce orders
Speaker 1: from other nations. So out of like it was one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety eight or two hundred and six or whatever,
Speaker 1: sovereign nations in the world, a quarter of them, give
Speaker 1: or take fifty countries have already said, yeah, well we'll
Speaker 1: come talk, we'll play ball at that sounds nice. That
Speaker 1: sounds nice already. Now it goes in to say caught
Speaker 1: in the crossfire here. Trump's tarret policies have rattled financial
Speaker 1: markets as investors fear a severe disruption in world trade
Speaker 1: could tip the global economy into recession. But then again,
Speaker 1: six months ago they were saying that the entire world
Speaker 1: was in a recession, but was just refusing to acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: So I mean again, there people are just gonna people. Man,
Speaker 1: it's wild. On Monday, Chinese stocks on inch higher, showing
Speaker 1: little reaction to the Commerce Ministry comments, though investors have
Speaker 1: generally remained cautious on Chinese assets due to the rising
Speaker 1: growth risks Chinese or excuse me, the Trump administration also
Speaker 1: has been trying to curb Beijing's progress and developing advanced
Speaker 1: semiconductor chips, which it says could be used for military purposes,
Speaker 1: and last week imposed port fees on China built vessels
Speaker 1: to limit China's dominance in shipbuilding. Yeah, there's their shipbuilding
Speaker 1: is a whole other conversation we do not necessarily have
Speaker 1: to get into. But they are touting, then beating their
Speaker 1: own chest about this new aircraft carrier they got. They
Speaker 1: don't have a supercarrier, America's got like three, But this
Speaker 1: new carrier there have is supposed to be like the
Speaker 1: hottest thing ever. It's it's kind of crazy and a
Speaker 1: little embarrassing, if I'm gonna be honest with you. And
Speaker 1: then I keep seeing reports about China's about to build
Speaker 1: a new I guess Defense Ministry headquarters, which is supposed
Speaker 1: to be like ten times the size of the Pentagon,
Speaker 1: and it's like and like, that's cool. That's another giant
Speaker 1: infrastructure project that's gonna take years and tons of money,
Speaker 1: and for what purpose? You know what I mean. China
Speaker 1: already is facing a housing crisis and a building crisis,
Speaker 1: and they have been for the last decade. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you need is another massive building project that
Speaker 1: you can't afford to flex. Yeah, your people are starving,
Speaker 1: but yes they need more buildings. That's that's what's need
Speaker 1: to hear you, all right. Anyway, moving on here, AI
Speaker 1: Chip giant Nvidia in the video excuse me it said
Speaker 1: last week that it would take five point five billion
Speaker 1: dollars to change charges due to the administration's curb on
Speaker 1: Ai Chip exports. China's President Jijapang visited three Southeast Asian
Speaker 1: countries last week, and I moved to bolster regional ties,
Speaker 1: calling on trade partners to oppose unilateral bullying. Beijing has
Speaker 1: said it is tearing down walls and expanding its circle
Speaker 1: to trading partners amid the trade row. These stakes are
Speaker 1: high for Southeast Asian nations caught in the crossfire of
Speaker 1: the Sino US tariff war, particularly given the regional Asian
Speaker 1: block huge two way trade with both China and the
Speaker 1: United States. Economic ministers from Thailand and Indonesia are currently
Speaker 1: in the United States, with Malaysia set to join later
Speaker 1: this week, all seeking trade negotiations. Yeah, I could again,
Speaker 1: I fully believe that no light is detected here. Six
Speaker 1: countries in Southeast Asia were hit with terrafs raging from
Speaker 1: thirty two percent to forty nine percent, threatening trade reliant
Speaker 1: economies that have benefited from investments from levies imposed on
Speaker 1: Beijing by Trump in his first term. Asian is China's
Speaker 1: largest By the way, I'm saying Asian, but it's actually
Speaker 1: an acronym. It's pronounced that way asa N so everybody
Speaker 1: knows here. Asian is China's largest trading partner, with total
Speaker 1: trade value reaching two hundred and thirty four billion dollars
Speaker 1: in the first quarter two twenty twenty five. China's Customs
Speaker 1: agency said last week trade began. Trade between Asian and
Speaker 1: the US totaled around four hundred and seventy six point
Speaker 1: eight billion in twenty twenty four, according to the US figures,
Speaker 1: making Washington the regional bloc's fourth largest trading partner. There
Speaker 1: are no winners in trade wars and tariff wars. She
Speaker 1: said in an article published in Vietnamese media. That would
Speaker 1: be one of the countries that's actually cool with China's Vietnam,
Speaker 1: without mentioning the United States, reported by Yeah I say so,
Speaker 1: all right, just say China's going on and on about
Speaker 1: the us bullying their way in the economy, even though
Speaker 1: they did a literally that just a few years back,
Speaker 1: and now it's being done to them and in some
Speaker 1: pretty massive ways. They don't like that.
Speaker 2: And I understand this, I have I could understand their reasoning.
Speaker 1: Cool. Now, India is a pretty interesting country as a whole, okay.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean just like for the culture and
Speaker 1: for the food and for the music and the ball
Speaker 1: would all of those things absolutely deserve all the respect
Speaker 1: right in the culture. But as far as how Mody
Speaker 1: has been doing business, that's the Indian Prime minister or yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a prime minister. I would say a president, but
Speaker 1: I think it's a prime minister or maybe president. I
Speaker 1: don't know the way that he's been doing business here lately.
Speaker 1: He's a shrewd businessman. And I don't mean that as
Speaker 1: an insult. Okay, he's smart, he's quick. Okay. That being said,
Speaker 1: he has strengthened certain ties with China. He has tried
Speaker 1: to strengthen certain ties with Russia. Right, I don't mean
Speaker 1: in the whole Ukraine situation. That's not his problem, nor
Speaker 1: is he trying to pretend that it is. But uh,
Speaker 1: there was recently a conversation to see which new jet
Speaker 1: India was gonna buy. There was like a Russian one
Speaker 1: that was on the page, and there was an American
Speaker 1: one that was on the page. They were supposed to
Speaker 1: have like a mock dogfight to see what was going
Speaker 1: to happen. Beside the point, India is starting to make
Speaker 1: some pretty pretty interesting moves.
Speaker 2: As far as all this is concerned.
Speaker 1: And let's not forget that India and China are currently
Speaker 1: in a border dispute because China keeps pushing out into
Speaker 1: other countries, right, That's why we have Chinese occupied Tibet, Mongolia, India,
Speaker 1: mir Mar all the countries around them. They have slowly
Speaker 1: but surely started pushing it. In Nepal, they've started slowly
Speaker 1: but surely pushing their way into these territories and acting like, well,
Speaker 1: that's always been China's land, and they're using a map
Speaker 1: from the Xing dynasty from like a long time ago
Speaker 1: to try to justify these claims. It's absolutely asinine to me,
Speaker 1: but I mean there are other countries that are doing
Speaker 1: similar stuff, so whatever, and most countries don't want to
Speaker 1: start in all out wars. They're willing to concede a
Speaker 1: few miles here and there, right, But whatever, India and China,
Speaker 1: one second they'll be trying to strengthen some trade relations.
Speaker 2: The next second they'll be.
Speaker 1: In some sort of a border dispute or something that
Speaker 1: seems like it might go military, but it never does.
Speaker 1: It never does. Now China's starting to you know, warn
Speaker 1: these countries and blame America for the bullying. It is
Speaker 1: very interesting to me that now India and the United
Speaker 1: States have finalized terms of reference for trade pacted. Okay,
Speaker 1: this literally just happened. Jd Vance just went to India.
Speaker 1: He was speaking with h is it President? Oh, it
Speaker 1: is a Prime Minister. I was like, okay, President, Prime
Speaker 1: Minister Mody during a meeting with the US Vice President
Speaker 1: Jade Vance in New Delhi on April twenty first, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. I think JD. Vance is just on a
Speaker 1: world tour right now, because he was just talking to
Speaker 1: the Pope last week and then he died. Now he's
Speaker 1: talking to Modi in India, so maybe he's just like
Speaker 1: making his rounds, you know, good things. So let's get
Speaker 1: into it here, shall we. India and the United States
Speaker 1: have reached the terms of reference outlining the roadmap for
Speaker 1: negotiations of the proposed bilateral trade agreement, announced a US
Speaker 1: Trade representative Jameson Greer on Tuesday. The statement came after
Speaker 1: the US Vice President Jade Vance met Prime Minister Narendra
Speaker 1: Modi in New Delhi. Said the ongoing negotiations aim to
Speaker 1: promote balance and reciprocity by expanding access to new markets
Speaker 1: for American products and tackling unfair practices that disadvantage US workers.
Speaker 1: India's constructive engagement so far has been welcomed, and I
Speaker 1: look forward to creating new opportunities for workers, farmers, entrepreneurs
Speaker 1: and both countries.
Speaker 2: That's what I believe, JD said.
Speaker 1: It goes on to say, I am pleased to confirm
Speaker 1: the USTR in India's Ministry of Commerce and Industry have
Speaker 1: finalized in terms of reference to lay down a roadmap
Speaker 1: for the negotiation of a reciprocal trade Yet we just
Speaker 1: kind of read that one and repeated itself a bit.
Speaker 1: But anyway, So, following Prime Minister Modi Advance's agreement on Monday,
Speaker 1: the US issued a statement saying they have made significant
Speaker 1: progress and working out the trade deal that will benefit
Speaker 1: both countries. Union Finance Minister god, yell thing, I'm bad
Speaker 1: with Asian names. Well, I guess India's Asian, but you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's different. But like, dude, some
Speaker 1: of these names are a bit ridiculous here. I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try. I'm sorry to the Indian Union Finance
Speaker 1: Minister Noirmala Seth Rahman, Seth Ramen, Seth Yeah, Ceith Ramen,
Speaker 1: I think the eyes make a e noise there. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Sith Ramen, who is in the United States,
Speaker 1: also said that both sides aim to complete the first
Speaker 1: phase of the trade deal by September or October this year. Now,
Speaker 1: this is the US's concerns with India. However, the US
Speaker 1: has said there are still many trade barriers with India,
Speaker 1: and according to the USTR report, the US had a
Speaker 1: trade deficit of forty five point seven billion in goods
Speaker 1: with India in twenty twenty four, which is a five
Speaker 1: point one percent or two point two billion dollars more
Speaker 1: than in twenty twenty three. Okay, so we're already in
Speaker 1: a bit of a trade deficit with them in the
Speaker 1: first place. Here, the United States welcome the tariff production
Speaker 1: in India implemented during the Prime Minister's meeting with President
Speaker 1: Trump in February, and its willingness to further reduce tariffs
Speaker 1: on US products as part of the BTA. The statement
Speaker 1: said to the USDR, the Trump administration wants to increase
Speaker 1: access to India markets, lower tariffs and non tariff barriers,
Speaker 1: and creates strong new rules that will ensure long term benefits.
Speaker 1: So this is kind of an overview of what's going
Speaker 1: on here. The USCR report stated that in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: the total trading good in goods between India and the
Speaker 1: US was estimated at one hundred and twenty nine point
Speaker 1: two billion dollars. India's average tariff for tax on imports
Speaker 1: is seventeen percent, which is one of the highest among
Speaker 1: major economies in comparison to the US's average tariff of
Speaker 1: three point three percent. Okay, so now they're talking about
Speaker 1: making it reciprocal.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: When it comes to the farm products, India charges an
Speaker 1: average tariff of thirty nine percent, while the US charges
Speaker 1: only five percent. Okay. So this is a direct quote
Speaker 1: the report from the report. In addition to tariffs, technical yeah,
Speaker 1: technical barriers to trade regulatory barriers and restrictions on access
Speaker 1: to the markets and the services industrial, industrial, agricultural sectors
Speaker 1: also reduced the US exports to India. So when the
Speaker 1: Trump tariffs took effect here on April second, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody said, everybody knows this. Trump plays a ten percent
Speaker 1: baseline tariff on all countries, and he set higher tariffs
Speaker 1: on certain countries with where the US have big trade deficits.
Speaker 2: Right, he did this to level the playing field.
Speaker 1: The terms of reference announcement with India is a critical
Speaker 1: step forward in negotiations with India to achieve reciprocal trade
Speaker 1: with one of our most strategic partners and deliver results
Speaker 1: to the American people. So all of this to say,
Speaker 1: while Ji Jiping is trying to flex and threaten countries
Speaker 1: to not capitulate to America's demands, and they only get
Speaker 1: in line with them, and they need to get closer
Speaker 1: with China, India making this move, I think is very wise.
Speaker 1: I think that India sees this as a sign of
Speaker 1: the times, and I hope that this is kind of
Speaker 1: a step forward as far as making India and America tighter,
Speaker 1: because I like that. I like Indian America being tight.
Speaker 1: They have any pretty strong military. They have pretty decent capabilities.
Speaker 1: I could see them being a great ally to have
Speaker 1: in the you know, sub continent of Asia as has
Speaker 1: always got crazy stuff popping off, usually in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: But I mean, especially with the things these days, with
Speaker 1: China and Russia and Iran being what they are. I
Speaker 1: like us having India as a homie, right, I like
Speaker 1: this a lot. All right, So let's see here. That's
Speaker 1: pretty much the end of that article. I did just
Speaker 1: want to bring that up just so everybody's aware of
Speaker 1: what's uh, what's.
Speaker 2: Going on with the India and China situation. Let me
Speaker 2: see here.
Speaker 1: We got a couple of messages in the chat I
Speaker 1: need to catch up on here. Flam Steed Star clarifications
Speaker 1: started in about nineteen sixty four, seventy virgin Tony. What
Speaker 1: was this about. I don't know if I brought up
Speaker 1: something earlier or if this is kind of out of
Speaker 1: left field, but I'm here for it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: This is from the podcast on Monday Great Podcasts with
Speaker 4: Micah about astro theology, and this is a minor point
Speaker 4: he made, but he was trying to say that the
Speaker 4: reference to the seventy two virgins in the Hidith comes
Speaker 4: from a star called seventy virginists plus two other stars
Speaker 4: in Virgo which make the number seventy two, and then
Speaker 4: it's virgins. And it's not grapes. I think I've talked
Speaker 4: about this exact verse before. I think it's grapes because
Speaker 4: ancient Arabic is a very ambiguous written language, and you
Speaker 4: can get multiple different pronunciations and meanings out of the
Speaker 4: same written word. It's kind of like how in English
Speaker 4: we have the world spelled.
Speaker 5: The same way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Arabic is full of homonyms like that. But anyway,
Speaker 4: I thought, wow, seventy virgin is, what the heck is that?
Speaker 4: So I decided to do some research. I found that
Speaker 4: there's this guy named Flamsteed in the sick eighties or
Speaker 4: nineties who came up with a classification system and he
Speaker 4: tried to classify every visible star in the sky at
Speaker 4: that time, and he found like one hundred and twenty
Speaker 4: in Virgo, and he would he named every star. So
Speaker 4: that's where that came from. So that name wouldn't have
Speaker 4: existed way back when when Muhammad was around and when
Speaker 4: they were writing the HEADI.
Speaker 2: Just literally a thousand years after Mohammad.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, Okay, so I didn't know that, but you're
Speaker 1: cutting out Tony.
Speaker 6: Where did that come from?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 4: I think it was on the whole podcast. And I
Speaker 4: don't mean to crap on him too much, but uh,
Speaker 4: like a few of the little details like that, I
Speaker 4: think he was trying to make connections that weren't really there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Micah dank, dude, I've I've been on his show
Speaker 1: before to debate him for basically from the Christian standpoint,
Speaker 1: and if I remember correct, the conversation went something along
Speaker 1: the lines of like, how do I believe the Bible
Speaker 1: when all the stories are written in the stars. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, basically, what you just told me is that
Speaker 1: the Bible was so perfectly written that it can be
Speaker 1: confirmed historically and astrologically. I didn't see that as a debunking.
Speaker 1: I saw that as a further confirmation. But I didn't
Speaker 1: know that he was going to take this type of
Speaker 1: stance when he came on our show. And I mean
Speaker 1: it's not like there were some people that think that
Speaker 1: I like came at him. I was trying really hard
Speaker 1: to not do this, but some of the points he
Speaker 1: was making, I agree with you. I think they I
Speaker 1: hope I didn't offend him. At the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: and I asked him if he's ever heard of apafia,
Speaker 1: which is when a person will just like believe that
Speaker 1: patterns are there so heavily that they'll see them even
Speaker 1: when they're clearly not like Jim Carrey in the movie
Speaker 1: twenty three. That's a real, like psychological thing that people
Speaker 1: can happen. And it's like, I'm not gonna say a
Speaker 1: mental disorder, but it's like a thing, right. And this dude,
Speaker 1: he said all these things. He's an author, he's written
Speaker 1: like seven books. You're telling me that there is no
Speaker 1: historical source to say that Jesus actually walked the earth.
Speaker 1: I a quick Google search will show you eight secular
Speaker 1: contemporary sources that say that he at least walked the earth. Now,
Speaker 1: whether he was a son or God or not, whatever, Fine,
Speaker 1: you could disbelieve that all you want. I'm not here
Speaker 1: to argue that point. But like everybody acknowledges he was
Speaker 1: a real dude, and he's just like, no, there's no way.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, so you got all these books
Speaker 1: you wrote, and you are you don't do research, obviously,
Speaker 1: so okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: Well it also if Fiscal's controversial point is the idea
Speaker 4: that Jesus didn't exist, the astrological or astro theological logic
Speaker 4: behind it doesn't prove whether Jesus existed or didn't. So
Speaker 4: if that's the point he wants to debate on, I
Speaker 4: just don't think that all his books actually really support
Speaker 4: that point. I haven't read him though, So the thing is,
Speaker 4: I just don't understand what his name point really is.
Speaker 4: And he's trying to get people to debate him, and well,
Speaker 4: people just don't understand him well enough to know what
Speaker 4: they're even supposed to be debating.
Speaker 6: He has one of those.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a fun episode and I would
Speaker 1: love to have him back on again one day. But like,
Speaker 1: one of his books is about the Library of Alexandria, right, which, like, okay,
Speaker 1: I get it, that's been a huge question mark of like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, all the lost information. Most experts these
Speaker 1: days understand that that was kind of a big nothing burger,
Speaker 1: like Alexandria wasn't seen as like there was a Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a massive library for sure, and yes there
Speaker 1: was a lot of things that were lost within it,
Speaker 1: for sure. Nobody's denying this, it's not like that particular.
Speaker 1: There's like eight Alexandria Is by the way, which kind
Speaker 1: of segues to Alexander the We may be talking about
Speaker 1: him later, but o the point, nobody, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: for the longest time, people thought that like this was
Speaker 1: the spot, this was like the academic hub of that
Speaker 1: day and age. Not really not really like this didn't
Speaker 1: like the Library of Athena or of Athens, I should say,
Speaker 1: at its peak burning down and we lost everything within it.
Speaker 1: That's not exactly true. It was like a library, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't the great library. It got turned that way
Speaker 1: from legend and myth and loar kind of thing after
Speaker 1: it was burned. But as far as the information that
Speaker 1: was housed within it, most experts nowadays know that, like
Speaker 1: there wasn't really any kind of a secret information that
Speaker 1: was like gone forever there. So the book he wrote
Speaker 1: on it, I promise you doesn't say that. But it
Speaker 1: also he's the kind of person that believes in history,
Speaker 1: but only a section of it, or only the type
Speaker 1: of it that kind of rhymes with what he likes.
Speaker 1: I get that vibe too, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I think I'm the same way honestly. I mean, we
Speaker 4: all are a little bit, but we all against that.
Speaker 4: But there's so little, there's so much that has been
Speaker 4: lost from the first millennium that it really is very
Speaker 4: speculative for anyone to say just about anything about it, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's fair. I don't know. I hope I
Speaker 1: didn't offend him too bad. I think he messaged Jonathan
Speaker 1: afterwards and he was not too happy with me. But
Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be like that if you're looking for
Speaker 1: people to debate you, you know, it's right. This is
Speaker 1: kind of what that looks like.
Speaker 4: You know, all the people all the time.
Speaker 5: Either.
Speaker 4: I have one other thought. Have you heard that Jehovah's
Speaker 4: witnesses believe that only one hundred and forty four thousand
Speaker 4: people are going to heaven? Because I heard the same thing.
Speaker 4: But I talked to I have a good friend in
Speaker 4: high school who was one, and he said, no, we
Speaker 4: don't believe that at all. Have you ever heard that?
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: I have people that I know that were raised Jehovah's
Speaker 1: witness and most of them have told me the same
Speaker 1: thing that they do believe that. So that is why
Speaker 1: a lot of the JW's have this God, how could
Speaker 1: I put this without trying to piss people off. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, the Mormons have a bit of a stereotype
Speaker 1: with how they're like way too happy to be alive.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: The Jehovah's Witness community has a stereotype of them being
Speaker 1: I don't want to say smug, but they kind of
Speaker 1: stay elitist, yeah, with a bless your heart mentality towards
Speaker 1: everyone who's not a Jehovah's Witness. And I don't mean
Speaker 1: like I hope God blesses your heart. I mean the
Speaker 1: Southern colloquial term of basically like hmm, go fuck yourself.
Speaker 1: It's more like, hmm, bless your heart. They kind of
Speaker 1: stay like that with everybody who's not a Jehovah's Witness.
Speaker 2: Now, this is not a rule across the board.
Speaker 1: The ones that I know personally are great people, but
Speaker 1: that's also because they left the church and they became
Speaker 1: great people. Most of them are not friends of the
Speaker 1: community these days. And yes, they believe that there's only
Speaker 1: going to be one hundred and forty four thousand that
Speaker 1: even make it into heaven. And so how do you
Speaker 1: become that, Well, first of all, you have to be
Speaker 1: a Jehovah's Witness to even be considered to be a
Speaker 1: part of it. Right, then it's not even that you
Speaker 1: have to be one of the one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: four thousand best Jehovah's witness throughout all of human history.
Speaker 2: And that's why they have that kind of mentality of like, well, I.
Speaker 1: Know I'm a part of that number. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you are, but I am. And it's yeah. And
Speaker 1: again to anybody listening right now on the Cold of Conspiracy,
Speaker 1: when this episode drops, that might be a Jehovah's witness. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't care. You could believe what you want to believe.
Speaker 1: This is the sources that I have talked to that
Speaker 1: have been a part of that tribe. Right And then
Speaker 1: then we've had people come on the show actually who
Speaker 1: were former Jehovah's witness that talk a lot of negative
Speaker 1: things about the faith. So I mean, yeah, I've heard
Speaker 1: that in the whole Like when the Saints go marching
Speaker 1: in Oh, how I want to be in that number?
Speaker 1: That number would be one hundred and forty four thousand.
Speaker 4: Side, Well, from the Book of Revelation, do you think
Speaker 4: what do you think is the significance of that one
Speaker 4: hundred and forty four thousand number because I can tell
Speaker 4: you what I think, and I can tell you what
Speaker 4: my Jehovah's witness friend told me. But do you want
Speaker 4: to go first or.
Speaker 3: You want me to go first?
Speaker 1: Please go first?
Speaker 6: Brother?
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I read through the Book of Revelation way
Speaker 4: back then when when my friend was telling me, yeah,
Speaker 4: just read it. It makes it clear, and I kind
Speaker 4: of agreed with him. What it says is that there's
Speaker 4: going to be twelve thousand men each from each of
Speaker 4: the twelve tribes of Israel who do battle with the
Speaker 4: devil at in the last days, and then after that
Speaker 4: it says that there will be a great multitude that
Speaker 4: goes into Heaven. The great multitude is not numbered, it's
Speaker 4: assumed to be way bigger, right, And they're going to
Speaker 4: live in this giant cube basically that's like fifteen one
Speaker 4: hundred miles wide, long and tall. That is pretty much
Speaker 4: what it says in the Book of Revelation. It's even
Speaker 4: weirder than the idea that that just one hundred and
Speaker 4: forty four thousand will go to heaven one hundred forty,
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty four thousand are just these, these
Speaker 4: men of the twelve tribes of Israel. So that's not
Speaker 4: going to include me or you or the Jehovah's witness.
Speaker 4: Friend I had, he said, yeah, I'm that's not going
Speaker 4: to be me. I'm going to be part of the multitude.
Speaker 4: And right, that's the way it made sense to him.
Speaker 4: That's the way it makes sense to me. So does
Speaker 4: that make sense to you too or not?
Speaker 1: That's no, That's about what I got whenever I read
Speaker 1: that passage. However, and I can't say this on behalf
Speaker 1: of all Jehovah's witness, but most of the ones that
Speaker 1: I've talked to don't actually read the Bible very often, which,
Speaker 1: to be fair, most Christians I know actually don't open
Speaker 1: the Good Book on a regular basis. So like no
Speaker 1: shade throne here, not not intending to anyway. But when
Speaker 1: they go for their meetings, they don't go to church.
Speaker 1: They go to meetings, and when they do, it's more
Speaker 1: of them reading the pamphlets and like that's what they're
Speaker 1: reading there. It's like a it's not like a newsletter,
Speaker 1: but baasically their hierarchical figures of whoever's leading the Jehovah's
Speaker 1: Witness group. They release pamphlets and or newsletters and or brochures.
Speaker 1: I forget what the term is, but basically they release
Speaker 1: a thing and that gets discussed at all the meetings
Speaker 1: for all the Jehovah's Witness throughout the world, week to
Speaker 1: week or months a month. However often they meet up
Speaker 1: I forget, but yeah, they very rarely, and like within
Speaker 1: it they'll have scripture, but they don't actually like open
Speaker 1: the Good Book themselves to like dive deeper. That's what
Speaker 1: I've been given to understand. So maybe somewhere along the
Speaker 1: line somebody changed that and said that, yeah, the one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty four is meant to be only the
Speaker 1: righteous one hundred and forty four thousand, which clearly is
Speaker 1: us because we're Jehovah's Witness. I don't know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's also kind of indicative of how that would
Speaker 1: have to happen because per the Book of Revelation, this
Speaker 1: can only take place when all twelve tribes of Israel
Speaker 1: are back in Israel, which means the lost tribe of
Speaker 1: Dan has to first be found, then has to be
Speaker 1: confirmed to be the tribal of Dan, then has to
Speaker 1: make their way back to the Holy Land. Then we
Speaker 1: can figure out if there's even twelve thousand of them
Speaker 1: to be added to that number.
Speaker 2: So like there's there's stuff.
Speaker 1: There's states.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I go ahead, Royce, I know you got to weigh
Speaker 1: in on this one.
Speaker 7: What are you talking about? I don't, I don't, I
Speaker 7: don't know anything. A couple of things. First of all,
Speaker 7: the overwhelming majority of Jews don't know what tribe they're from.
Speaker 1: Right the only Jews.
Speaker 3: Colloquia, whether you call them Jews, Hebrew, whatever, I will
Speaker 3: call im. We'll just say from here on for I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna call Jews whatever. So the children of Israel
Speaker 3: right now are only segregated into three three sections. You
Speaker 3: have the Cohen's, the Lavis, and then the other ten tribes.
Speaker 3: So nobody really knows. So it's not just the tribe
Speaker 3: of dance, you know that Tali Binyam and like all
Speaker 3: these other ones.
Speaker 8: So so what the Omara says was at once the
Speaker 8: message actually comes, like he will actually tell people what
Speaker 8: tribe they're actually from, And funny video even says he
Speaker 8: will be able to tell through his nose, like I
Speaker 8: don't know.
Speaker 3: But like that says, So that's the first of all. Also,
Speaker 3: just came back to uh, mister dank for a quick moment. One.
Speaker 3: You did not come at him like you don't know. Look,
Speaker 3: I've had conversations with you, and I've heard you know,
Speaker 3: you were very respectful. That was it was very like
Speaker 3: the last comment was was maybe a little snarky. But
Speaker 3: what what was like? But I understand why you asked
Speaker 3: that question. And hell, I think that's honestly a legitimate
Speaker 3: question because he's trying to you know, as you said,
Speaker 3: so if it's oil or fish or rams or goats
Speaker 3: or whatever like, it has to be this it's like,
Speaker 3: uh no, but anyway, so no, So I don't think
Speaker 3: that you were bad or disrespectful in any stretch of
Speaker 3: the means.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that I he lost me whenever he was talking.
Speaker 1: All right, So twelve zodiacs got you twelve disciples of Jesus. Okay,
Speaker 1: I see your connection. Let's go deeper. This guy's obviously
Speaker 1: John the Baptist, Like, uh, okay, so John, what in
Speaker 1: a disciple? Right off the rip, we're kind of we're
Speaker 1: kind of losing track of the of the storyline here. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but in this other zodiac, there's thirteen, so that's John
Speaker 1: the Baptist. I'm like, you don't think the thirteenth dude
Speaker 1: in question would be Jesus himself?
Speaker 2: All right, sure, sure.
Speaker 1: Well then why is it all laid out in this
Speaker 1: way next to each other? It's like okay, Like that's
Speaker 1: that's your connection. So like and I could even I
Speaker 1: could see, like as far as the strings on the
Speaker 1: court board go, so to speak, the connections that were
Speaker 1: being drawn. Why certain things are said the way they were?
Speaker 1: Why is bread and fish brought up? Boom boom? And
Speaker 1: if you look at them on a zodiac chart, they're
Speaker 1: like across from each other or next to each other,
Speaker 1: And like, Okay, it's an interesting conversation and it's fascinating
Speaker 1: to look at it from that lens. With all due respect,
Speaker 1: I'm with it. But at some point we were like
Speaker 1: detaching ourselves from reality and going more into the realm
Speaker 1: of like fan fick, And I'm good with that. I'm
Speaker 1: completely cool with that as long as we're calling it
Speaker 1: what it is, you know. But yeah, I thank you
Speaker 1: for telling me that I was respectful, because I or
Speaker 1: apparently apparently, he messages Jonathan afterwards, and I think he
Speaker 1: was a little upset by me. And I'm like, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna say that, you are like looking for
Speaker 1: five years for a Christian to come and debate you.
Speaker 1: I didn't even debate you. And you you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You got mad? Okay, yep?
Speaker 3: I mean, but also there's facts, like I mean, how
Speaker 3: can you say that the children of Israel weren't in Egypt?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know about you. Like I just
Speaker 3: celebrated Passover, which is the exodus from Egypt.
Speaker 1: Oh, my god, Jesus December twenty fifth, Like no, Jesus
Speaker 1: was born December twenty fifth. He died a week after Passover.
Speaker 1: That's in what are you talking about?
Speaker 6: Dude?
Speaker 1: And then he like heard the spring, Yeah, in the
Speaker 1: spring he heard me say that, like huffed for a
Speaker 1: second and then moved on as if I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, that's like a thing that brought
Speaker 1: up on ten slides, and I've been I've been letting
Speaker 1: you roll with it because I thought you were like
Speaker 1: kind of mistakenly saying died instead of born, But like, no,
Speaker 1: you're intentionally saying that Jesus did not die in December
Speaker 1: at all. Passover does not happen in the winter. But
Speaker 1: you know, I was trying to not be a dick.
Speaker 1: It's trying to be nice.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, and then where.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but also on Jesus' birthday. Yeah, maybe I'm cutting out,
Speaker 4: But on Jesus' birthday, real quick, there's this scene called
Speaker 4: the visitation where Mary visits Elizabeth. There's the mother, John
Speaker 4: the Baptist, and that takes place in the summer because
Speaker 4: it's coinciding with some Jewish holiday that took place in
Speaker 4: the summer. So that's part of the reason why the
Speaker 4: Catholic Church established that they thought Jesus was conceived in
Speaker 4: March and born in December. Fair in reality, I don't
Speaker 4: know one hundred percent, but that's just what the tradition says,
Speaker 4: and it's pretty plausible.
Speaker 3: In my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the visitation where John the Baptist kicked and flipped
Speaker 1: over inside of his mom and that whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the celebration, I forget what it was.
Speaker 1: I remember it was like a big deal that Mary
Speaker 1: was traveling at that time, so I know it was
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like in June or
Speaker 1: if it was in August.
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you, Royce.
Speaker 1: If you know of a specific Jewish big feast that
Speaker 1: happens in summer, please chime in here. But yes, what
Speaker 1: is what time of year was talking?
Speaker 3: So fifty days after Passover is the holiday of Chevu
Speaker 3: when the Jews received the Torah from Mount Zeinai. So
Speaker 3: there there are so they're called the Chillushi Gland, which
Speaker 3: basically means your pilgrimage festival that the Jews should should
Speaker 3: go to the temple during that period. So one is Passover,
Speaker 3: the other one is Shivuus, and the other one is
Speaker 3: took us through the festival of Booths. But yeah, so
Speaker 3: it would probably probably have been during Shivo, which is
Speaker 3: so basically it's in the summer, Okay.
Speaker 1: And then, if I'm not mistaken, she was like six
Speaker 1: months She was pregnant for six months before Mary was pregnant,
Speaker 1: So John the Baptist was born a little bit earlier
Speaker 1: than I don't know if she was like getting ready
Speaker 1: to pop when this feast took place John's mom or not.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the whole thing I understand as far as
Speaker 1: Jesus' birth. When you talk about the crops that were
Speaker 1: being harvested or whichever the thing during the time of year,
Speaker 1: for the season. I've heard some people say it's more
Speaker 1: of a September possibly October timeframe. Okay, fine, celebrating his birth.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm of the belief that it's not that important
Speaker 1: as to what time of year it is. December twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. Okay, fine, as long as we're celebrating it,
Speaker 1: I'm good with that. Right, that's just a me thing.
Speaker 1: I know I'm probably a heretic for saying such things,
Speaker 1: but fine, Fine, But his death was indisputably one week
Speaker 1: after Passover. The whole reason he was in Jerusalem for
Speaker 1: the first in the first place was for the Passover feast.
Speaker 1: So again, I'm not I wasn't trying to be a dick.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to point out the obvious historical facts.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Merlin, I see your hand raised, brother, go
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 6: Okay. So, for one, you aren't being a dick, thinking,
Speaker 6: oh boy, this has a problem with anybody debating him, Like,
Speaker 6: if you're not sitting there smiling and going yes, sir, yeah,
Speaker 6: you're right, dude, the holy shit you're blowing my mind
Speaker 6: right now, then he thinks anybody's just being rude or condescending.
Speaker 6: So you weren't like you're just being a debate like
Speaker 6: it was a debate, like you were like, boy, about this,
Speaker 6: what about this? Well? This says it and he just
Speaker 6: can't handle criticism. Two, I'm pretty sure he stole that
Speaker 6: ship from the originals that Guist movie. Did you see that?
Speaker 1: No? I have not.
Speaker 6: Oh dude, watch the original ZiT Guys movie. It's basically
Speaker 6: his theory and a nutshell really, I was like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 6: like the whole like because so the reason we celebrate
Speaker 6: Christmas is because it's like the birth of the sun.
Speaker 6: Well after December twenty first, the next the summer, the
Speaker 6: winter solstice, Yeah, is basically like the rebirth of the
Speaker 6: sun because the days get shorter up to that point,
Speaker 6: then they start getting longer. Yeah, so that's what the
Speaker 6: whole like astrology thing goes off. That's what the movie is, like,
Speaker 6: it goes with astrology in the.
Speaker 1: Signs is I've and you know, and to even further that,
Speaker 1: I could understand why a pagan group, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that in a demeaning way, a pagan tribe would
Speaker 1: associate certain star signs to be associated with certain times
Speaker 1: of year. For instance, when it's time to hook up
Speaker 1: to the oxen and plow your fields, it's during the
Speaker 1: time of Taurus and you play connect the dots with
Speaker 1: the stars to make a bull and like that makes
Speaker 1: sense to these people like that, Okay.
Speaker 6: Sure, I mean you're outdoor all the time. At the
Speaker 6: end day when you get done plow and you're like,
Speaker 6: oh shit, there's a bullet there.
Speaker 1: Why not I have I have no issue with that
Speaker 1: line of thinking, or the time of Aquarius and the
Speaker 1: dudes pouring out the bucket right or the vase or whatever,
Speaker 1: and it's a super rainy season.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, uh, fishing season or whatever the case.
Speaker 1: All the stuff, the crab, how it goes across and
Speaker 1: the sun goes like down the equator for three days,
Speaker 1: big dog, I'm with you one hundred percent. And I
Speaker 1: don't want even want to argue those points because like
Speaker 1: that checks out. That checks out one hundred percent to me.
Speaker 1: We're talking about people that literally base their entire calendar
Speaker 1: year off the stars. And then to further that point,
Speaker 1: in the Old Testament, it's said to do that, don't
Speaker 1: base your life off of it. But like to base
Speaker 1: your seasons and calendars off the stars. Absolutely, absolutely go
Speaker 1: for it. But yeah, he I feel like he just
Speaker 1: kind of got lost in the weeds a bit with
Speaker 1: the Zeitgeist movie. Did they talk about the things that
Speaker 1: he was talking about as far as like, yeah, the
Speaker 1: connections to the Bible and things?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Really, yeah, that's basically what it was. Oh Now,
Speaker 6: like I've heard this before somewhere where have I heard it?
Speaker 6: And it was definitely from the Zeitgeist movie.
Speaker 1: Now I have to go watch this movie, and I
Speaker 1: want to check out his books and see if there's more.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's that's great. That's right.
Speaker 6: I find the one. I think some like two thousand
Speaker 6: or two thousand and five, something like that. It is
Speaker 6: an older mood.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and five. Ze guys, I'm writing that down.
Speaker 1: Oh man, all right? But yeah, and also now because
Speaker 1: he he said out loud that he's been looking for
Speaker 1: five years for a Christian to come debate him and
Speaker 1: nobody has. And I'm like, I guess you forgot that.
Speaker 1: I came on your show for that purpose. But all right,
Speaker 1: if he's really interested and he doesn't feel too like
Speaker 1: upset about me being whatever, I would love to come
Speaker 1: onto his his show and talk about things. I don't
Speaker 1: want to fight about it, like there's there's no there's
Speaker 1: this is it's literally just a talk. Nobody's actually getting
Speaker 1: but hurt about this, all right, I hope not.
Speaker 6: But like that's just everybody's way of like trying to
Speaker 6: prop themselves up, because it didn't. Billy Carson even say
Speaker 6: that too when he was going around doing his whole
Speaker 6: spielers like I've been trying if people debate me, but
Speaker 6: they will, And then West South went on Joe Rogan
Speaker 6: and destroyed it.
Speaker 1: Dude, Yeah no, he went on, Oh god, I forget
Speaker 1: the name of the show that that debate actually happened,
Speaker 1: but yeah, then wes Huff went on to Rogan to
Speaker 1: talk about that debate.
Speaker 2: And that's that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Billy Carson went on for years and years grifting off
Speaker 1: of people claiming that he is the world's foremost expert
Speaker 1: in all the things and the stuff. But he was
Speaker 1: doing that playing this game without an opponent, which is
Speaker 1: against the rules, right, And so he actually and I
Speaker 1: don't even know if he knew who wes Huff was
Speaker 1: or the fact that like, oh, in the SINAI Bible
Speaker 1: that says this and this. He's like, Oh, you mean
Speaker 1: this book that I have on my shelf that I
Speaker 1: used daily in my line of work. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: And he's talking about the the anuma alish clearly is
Speaker 1: the old testimony. He's like, where do you get that from? Well,
Speaker 1: the flood? Okay, what else that's it? He's like, that's
Speaker 1: like the only thing you could say. It's a it's
Speaker 1: not a direct correlation. There's one story that kind of
Speaker 1: sounds similar. And find me an ancient group that doesn't
Speaker 1: believe in a worldwide flood at one point, like, all right, yeah.
Speaker 6: But that also makes me wonder like, couldn't every religion
Speaker 6: be right? And I'll also be wrong?
Speaker 1: So personally, I think that most religions and cultures, even
Speaker 1: there's a few key stories that seem to just traverse
Speaker 1: time and space with these all of them, right dragons,
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form make their appearance in
Speaker 1: every ancient source period. Grand worldwide flood absolutely makes its
Speaker 1: appearance everywhere.
Speaker 2: Let's see what else.
Speaker 1: The A couple of big signs right moon cycles typically
Speaker 1: make their appearance somewhere. Virgin birth, which actually, if you
Speaker 1: want to go back far enough that kind of stems
Speaker 1: from Nimrod. But then that story kind of exactly exactly,
Speaker 1: which is, as we currently know, to be the earliest
Speaker 1: codified written thing on Earth. I'm sure if we ever
Speaker 1: found something that predates that, they probably had their own
Speaker 1: version of air a virgin birth story. So there's there's
Speaker 1: a few big keynote things that make their presence. Vampires
Speaker 1: are everywhere, shape shifters are everywhere, Like, got it cool.
Speaker 1: They might have different storylines to it, different lore to it,
Speaker 1: different looks to them, but they all have certain things.
Speaker 1: So like to your point, I think that some of
Speaker 1: these things are indisputable, and the fact that they're so
Speaker 1: widely talked about and regarded by all cultures, there's got
Speaker 1: to be a kernel of truth that connects them all, right.
Speaker 6: Exactly, Like like I've always thought, it's like five guys
Speaker 6: who went to a party and then split up at
Speaker 6: the party, and then they all got together after the
Speaker 6: party and were like, so, how is your knight? And
Speaker 6: they all have the samety events happening. Yeah, but some
Speaker 6: minor details in there, like a skewed and I can
Speaker 6: say that don't don't India, like the Hindu belief have
Speaker 6: like gods who descend on to earth.
Speaker 1: The Indian creation story is wild, like they have three
Speaker 1: main gods, but they can present themselves in like three
Speaker 1: thousand different ways and so there's is it's very it's complicated.
Speaker 1: I've tried looking into Hinduism, which is it's a cool religion.
Speaker 1: It really is no shade throne. Their creation story is
Speaker 1: basically head God in charge. They it's come, he came,
Speaker 1: and the earth spawned from it. That I'm oversimplifying it
Speaker 1: because they make it sound like it was a lotus
Speaker 1: that came out of his belly button. Call that what
Speaker 1: you want. That's a really nice way of saying he
Speaker 1: got a heart on and from that lotus a bit
Speaker 1: of nectar spewed and that from that the earth was formed.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, so head God stroked it and the
Speaker 1: earth came about because of all right, dope with you?
Speaker 6: With you?
Speaker 1: It's it's wild, it's awesome. It's not in a negative way.
Speaker 1: It's just it's out there and uh, yeah, there, dude,
Speaker 1: there's a fly in my studio. That is that it's
Speaker 1: gonna piss me off the rest of this, I swear
Speaker 1: to God anyway. Anyway, so, but yes, to your point,
Speaker 1: they have a creation story, they have a flood story,
Speaker 1: they have gods that come down to earth and intervene
Speaker 1: in the day to day of mankind, especially in the
Speaker 1: ancient times, all the stuff, and so like, Okay, certain
Speaker 1: things I think we can then say that, like a
Speaker 1: global flood absolutely happened. Everybody talked about it in very
Speaker 1: different ways, but they all acknowledge that it happened.
Speaker 2: Dragons used to exist.
Speaker 1: Everybody acknowledges this phoenix is in some way, shape or
Speaker 1: form at one point had to have existed. Right, So fine, fine,
Speaker 1: As far as where religion and ancient myths split off,
Speaker 1: and I mean, this is gonna be a kind of
Speaker 1: a weird one because like what we would call Greek mythology,
Speaker 1: they called their religion, right, I'm not trying to like
Speaker 1: dismiss that. But as far as like the Bible goes,
Speaker 1: a lot of these things are all Old Testament stuff,
Speaker 1: and even as far as the Jews are concerned with
Speaker 1: the Torah, right, there are certain things that you get
Speaker 1: from the Old Testament that you just kind of accept
Speaker 1: and move on with, Like you don't need to question
Speaker 1: all the inner workings of the First like ten chapters
Speaker 1: of Genesis, like yo, just kind of let it be,
Speaker 1: just kind of it's the story of what you need
Speaker 1: to know. It's not the algebraic equation of how the
Speaker 1: truth had to be laid out this way, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Stuff like that. And I think that
Speaker 1: that's kind of in the same regard as where the
Speaker 1: creation story comes with a lot of these myths from
Speaker 1: back in the day. They didn't necessarily need to know
Speaker 1: all of the ins and outs of how the earth
Speaker 1: was formed. It just be formed kind of thing. So
Speaker 1: I see what you mean as far as like the
Speaker 1: five guys that go to a party and they all
Speaker 1: come back with similar yet somehow very different stories.
Speaker 2: At a certain point, that has to happen.
Speaker 1: But that's why when we get to the point where
Speaker 1: we can actually track it based off of human history, right,
Speaker 1: And we could talk about the ancient Sumerians, we just
Speaker 1: learned how to read their language fifty sixty years ago,
Speaker 1: so we were able to further confirm certain things Babylonian texts,
Speaker 1: Egyptian texts. We learned how to read that with the
Speaker 1: Rosetta stone, right, and we think we know what the
Speaker 1: Egyptians sounded like. Because of how the Coptics speak. But
Speaker 1: we're still not one hundred percent on inflection and you know,
Speaker 1: accents and things like that. We have a guestimation. But
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like we can only prove so
Speaker 1: much based off of written history, and then it's about
Speaker 1: how biased was that written history, because as we've talked
Speaker 1: about a million times, history is written by the victors
Speaker 1: and it's only written from one side of the perspective.
Speaker 1: And like, I get that too, But that's why I
Speaker 1: find history so fascinating, because you're comparing notes from different sources,
Speaker 1: Especially if you have both sides of opposing forces and
Speaker 1: you have both of their written stone about what took place,
Speaker 1: you can get a pretty decent understanding of the situation
Speaker 1: and try to find the truth in the middle of
Speaker 1: it all, you know what I mean. So it's I
Speaker 1: see what you're saying, and I agree to a point.
Speaker 1: But then also, like when written history and proven history
Speaker 1: pick up, I feel like we would need to look
Speaker 1: at that and acknowledge that to be like the start point,
Speaker 1: so to speak.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, no, for sure, Like I'm hiring for same Christian,
Speaker 6: Like I went to a miracle firsthand, Like blew my mind.
Speaker 6: I cannot imagine it. Yeah, it was weird, but like
Speaker 6: I don't. God says you shouldn't judge anybody facts, So
Speaker 6: maybe and all these other religions do have a main
Speaker 6: God figure, right, And that's where I kind of like
Speaker 6: we really can't, like, I just don't get out of
Speaker 6: the hate in the world basically as I'm saying, because like,
Speaker 6: if you really look at it, everybody has the same guy.
Speaker 6: We have God to walk The monks walk them amongst
Speaker 6: men's whether it be Zeus, Polo, all them. I believe
Speaker 6: they were watchers, right, the ones who got it don't
Speaker 6: tell Yeah, I tell that shit.
Speaker 1: Anybody's questioned if you can catch a fly with your
Speaker 1: bare hands, Yeah you can. You can wow anyway, moving on,
Speaker 1: but uh no, I hear you. There's a head God
Speaker 1: who's like interfacing with mankind. And I mean it depends
Speaker 1: on the culture. Right. Zeus was doing that more because
Speaker 1: he loved to stick his dick and whatever he felt
Speaker 1: like in that moment.
Speaker 6: He always see Zeus as like the Lucifer figure, because
Speaker 6: if angels did fall down onto med h, what would
Speaker 6: you tell to convince all the people on earth they
Speaker 6: should worship you and not your dad. Yeah, and you
Speaker 6: killed your dad and locked them in a mountain because
Speaker 6: he was eating your brothers and sisters. You would try
Speaker 6: to make people hate them.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: You definitely would not celebrate your father. He hated his dad, Yeah,
Speaker 6: so much so that he led a rebellion against his
Speaker 6: dad mm hm and then fell on to Earth.
Speaker 2: Now that's an interesting point.
Speaker 1: How if we're gonna compare apples to apples, here the
Speaker 1: fallen angels kicked out of heaven led by some sort
Speaker 1: of a hierarchical figure of them. Then we cut to
Speaker 1: Greek mythology and Zeus being the one that freed his
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters from his dad's stomach because he was
Speaker 1: rebelling against his dad. And then we have a whole
Speaker 1: line of thinking. I'm not saying that I personally believe this,
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of people that do. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I do.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I don't.
Speaker 1: Actually, that would say that all of the pantheon of
Speaker 1: other gods, pagan gods, are demons that took on different
Speaker 1: forms and presented themselves to humans as such. And then
Speaker 1: you look at some of these stories and how that
Speaker 1: could really line up, and it's like, ooh, all right.
Speaker 6: Well then you look at the ancient Samerians and they
Speaker 6: never once take credit for anything they got, Like they
Speaker 6: didn't give all the credit to the god who taught them, yeah,
Speaker 6: which was like if he and lol onknew all them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And so I was kind of like, I remember watching
Speaker 6: a history documentary about how like one of the Bibles
Speaker 6: say that the watchers helped each men all the trades
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, and I was like, huh, that
Speaker 6: really aligns up with Samarians. And of course Samerians were
Speaker 6: called it something else, and they're fascinating because they even
Speaker 6: knew the layout of our solarces. How do you like?
Speaker 6: That's that stuff you can't know. You can't know there's
Speaker 6: a Pluto out there.
Speaker 1: No way. They didn't have telescopes, they didn't have that
Speaker 1: type of technology, but somehow they had a very intricate
Speaker 1: understanding of it all. Now that being said, so did
Speaker 1: the ancient Mayans and the ancient Aztecs. And they did
Speaker 1: that from star watching, right, and they like literally wrote
Speaker 1: their calendar off of what the stars alignments on each
Speaker 1: given day, and they had a very good understanding of
Speaker 1: it all without technology. No, no disrespect throne. But I'm
Speaker 1: with you. The Samerians had to have had someone or
Speaker 1: something giving them some kind of information. Now, I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna say that was the
Speaker 1: Ananachi and the uh you know, the Aliens, which that
Speaker 1: didn't know of itself. Is crazy to me. If you
Speaker 1: break down the Samerian language, an anaki is not supposed
Speaker 1: to be one word.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be two different words.
Speaker 1: And it is not space gods.
Speaker 6: It's like, isn't like them who fell from the heavens
Speaker 6: or something like that?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 6: That which which, Yeah, my head, I go straight to Okay,
Speaker 6: they're the fallen angels, right, they're teaching everybody everything in Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's also crazy to me, Like you said, the Samarians,
Speaker 1: like they give credit to all the gods for giving
Speaker 1: humans everything we have, so do the Egyptians. Tot is
Speaker 1: the one that gave them written language, because yeah, toad,
Speaker 1: humans were just unable to etch anything down. Ever, and
Speaker 1: before Hermes came to the Greeks, they never decided to
Speaker 1: write things down. And mercury to the Romans. And it's like,
Speaker 1: so you mean to tell me that before this god
Speaker 1: gave y'all any type of understanding of how to write
Speaker 1: shit down. Y'all just like didn't. That's crazy to me.
Speaker 1: But again maybe that's from my twenty twenty five perspective. Right,
Speaker 1: There's been multiple cultures around the world that pass things
Speaker 1: down strictly orally, so maybe there is a you know,
Speaker 1: something to be said for that as well. Maybe written
Speaker 1: language came about later on. But I mean, and correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, Raven, You being the anthropologist that
Speaker 1: you are, a clear sign of when a civilization becomes
Speaker 1: a culture unto themselves is typically whenever written language comes about.
Speaker 9: Right, Yes, written language is one of the ways, but
Speaker 9: they typically they'll typically have oral stories and then they
Speaker 9: start to have sorry, my thing is odd, they will
Speaker 9: start to like write it down that becomes like their own,
Speaker 9: like significant like recognized culture, but like each culture has
Speaker 9: like different It actually really started with burial rights. Is
Speaker 9: how culture is differentiated from between each other.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I could believe that too, especially on an
Speaker 1: archaeological standpoint or what is it called? When is it
Speaker 1: archaeological when you're doing grave sites. Paleontology is dinosaurs?
Speaker 9: Correct, Yes, Like archaeology is where you're digging up remains
Speaker 9: or any artifacts that were of human man made makes sense.
Speaker 1: And that makes sense as well because at that point
Speaker 1: you could see some sort of a whether that's a
Speaker 1: belief in a religion, belief in an afterlife, or some
Speaker 1: sort of way that the body was prepared for burial.
Speaker 1: That is extremely indicative of beliefs in something outside of
Speaker 1: the human realm, right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So, like one of the oldest sites they had,
Speaker 9: they had like collections of like seashells and they had
Speaker 9: like different like little tokens pretty much, and that was
Speaker 9: like one of the first sites that they found where
Speaker 9: they had skeletal remains along with goods inside of it,
Speaker 9: meaning that they were doing some type of ceremony instead
Speaker 9: of just either bearing the bodies or burning the bodies.
Speaker 9: There were some type of significance with the findings of
Speaker 9: the materials that were in those sites. So that is
Speaker 9: where religion started to come more into play, is when
Speaker 9: that was found. But religion has been around for a
Speaker 9: long time and it's been passed down orally and written,
Speaker 9: and it just depends like and it translates, like we
Speaker 9: talked about last time, each section of the world that
Speaker 9: you've come from, it translates differently, and over time. It's
Speaker 9: kind of like the monkey thing, you know, like you're
Speaker 9: talking to a can and then you see how it translates.
Speaker 9: So some stories get some don't. But when it's written down,
Speaker 9: even the written gets changed.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 9: Look at how many Bible versions.
Speaker 1: There are, so yeah, one hundred per and that's written
Speaker 1: word only goes so far because then we start getting
Speaker 1: into interpretations of the written word. Hell, look it up.
Speaker 1: We got people right now that are arguing the Second
Speaker 1: Amendment in America, the right the right to you know,
Speaker 1: bare arms, comma shall not be infringed because that comma
Speaker 1: what do they mean by that? And it's like, shall
Speaker 1: not be infringed is pretty clear cut and dry, but
Speaker 1: then there's still elected officials that will argue that point.
Speaker 1: And so like, yeah, even to a point, the written
Speaker 1: word will get dissected and misinterpreted and rewritten and reinterpreted.
Speaker 2: And I'm with you, it's a game of telephone for sure.
Speaker 9: Kind of like how the monks were translading everything, you know,
Speaker 9: back in the day, Like they wrote down their interpretation
Speaker 9: or they're what they you know, saw what they heard, whatever,
Speaker 9: and then they were taking old texts and translating it.
Speaker 9: What if they got you know, like Arabic has like those,
Speaker 9: you know, certain dialects, Like what if they got one
Speaker 9: dialect wrong and it actually was something else, like you know,
Speaker 9: for each time it's been rewritten by each different person.
Speaker 9: Then you know, things can get lost translated differently. It's
Speaker 9: interesting though, like history in and of itself can continue
Speaker 9: to change, and then we don't know really what happened.
Speaker 9: We only have what was written or what we found
Speaker 9: and then assumed what's happened.
Speaker 1: Absolutely and to that point, language also traverses time, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't always stay pure, right, not always. There's only
Speaker 1: arguably one or two cases where it has, and even
Speaker 1: that's up for debate. But all right, So there's this
Speaker 1: guy named Aman Hillman and I most people have heard
Speaker 1: of him if you watch the Cult Conspiracy and things
Speaker 1: like that. This dude taught himself Greek, so thinks that
Speaker 1: he's an expert in it. And then he's the guy
Speaker 1: that goes on to say Jesus christ Christos meaning ointment
Speaker 1: or you know, all these things. And he's the guy
Speaker 1: that went on to say that Jesus was a pedophile
Speaker 1: and like got a lot of shit for that. One
Speaker 1: because he was misunderstanding something from one of the gospels,
Speaker 1: which is really ridiculous. It takes a very quick cursory
Speaker 1: search to understand what the debate in question was on
Speaker 1: that one. The boy that was with Jesus, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: would be his disciple, Matthew. Why was he naked? Because
Speaker 1: when the Romans grabbed him, he like shirked his shirt
Speaker 1: off and got away scott free.
Speaker 2: But he ran off naked. That's not like that.
Speaker 1: Nothing about that was pedophilic in nature. And it doesn't
Speaker 1: take much brain power to see that. But he's just
Speaker 1: the type that stirring the pot to start the pot.
Speaker 1: Neither he nor there. He went on and was talking
Speaker 1: about the Greek language and how it never changes. It
Speaker 1: is like etched in history. It is this way for good,
Speaker 1: and it's like, bro.
Speaker 2: That's like, and we've used this example before.
Speaker 1: That's like saying that in the English language, a butt
Speaker 1: dial and a booty call are the exact same thing,
Speaker 1: because language doesn't change over time. But booty call dial,
Speaker 1: obviously these two phrases mean the exact same thing. And
Speaker 1: it's like, no, not at all. Christos that he was
Speaker 1: talking about with ointment or whatever it was used in
Speaker 1: medical terminology, and I forget the exact century of which
Speaker 1: it was used, but basically that was a term to
Speaker 1: mean that it was something that could be applied topically
Speaker 1: rather than ingested orally. But yeah, it's like you said,
Speaker 1: languages traverse time, and sometimes they stay pure, sometimes they
Speaker 1: get changed with the at the day and age modern
Speaker 1: day and age. So yeah, anyway, Yeah, fascinating conversation that
Speaker 1: we're on right now, y'all. Absolutely, And I to circle back,
Speaker 1: I really hope that Micah Dank is down for a debate.
Speaker 1: I think that would be fun. I am not an
Speaker 1: expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I would
Speaker 1: also venture to say neither is he. So I think
Speaker 1: that we are on equal footing as far as having
Speaker 1: a debate.
Speaker 3: Go.
Speaker 1: I think that'd be fun. But anyway, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and hit the chat here. Uh, Raven,
Speaker 1: when you sent this, I believe it was in reference
Speaker 1: to like what we could call our people here. Uh
Speaker 1: it says the coons, but outside of Louisiana wouldn't understand, uh,
Speaker 1: that would be the coon asses, because that that could
Speaker 1: be misinterpreted as a racial term on that one.
Speaker 9: But yeah, I was gonna say the kuon asses, but yeah,
Speaker 9: and now I was like, yeah, not gonna understand.
Speaker 1: No, And to be honest, I can't even claim that
Speaker 1: title for myself. I am not a coon ass. People
Speaker 1: that listen to me sound they say I have like
Speaker 1: a redneck accent, but des goes, I don't talk with
Speaker 1: deck cagn accent. But I mean it's also not something
Speaker 1: that's natural to me, you know, So I'm I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even classify myself that way. Hell, I would barely call
Speaker 1: myself a Cajun to complete.
Speaker 9: Think I have more of an accent than you do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're from the fucking Pacific Northwest, so yeah,
Speaker 1: no you don't. You have a very uh non regional
Speaker 1: dialect accent.
Speaker 9: I'm just a genderous specific fate like gender neutral.
Speaker 3: I can't just tell.
Speaker 1: We have one of those. And Alex is here right now,
Speaker 1: so watch it. Sorry speaking of Alex, just said trying
Speaker 1: to consuct my training balls. Alex, I love you, just
Speaker 1: so you understand this. Uh let's see uh l O
Speaker 1: L The Knights, okay yo, Royce. I thought about that,
Speaker 1: the Knights, but then it's like, eh, maybe I was
Speaker 1: thinking maybe the Squire's. But I don't like that either.
Speaker 1: That's like an underling thing, and I don't I don't
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Maybe the retinue, the Cajun Knight.
Speaker 3: And the.
Speaker 6: Royal We.
Speaker 1: The Royal We. Okay, okay, you.
Speaker 3: Know what that's in reference to. You're right? I mean
Speaker 3: if I were saying, like like we we are not
Speaker 3: unused like that's the Royal We.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get this. Okay, let's see the Royal We
Speaker 1: the Knights. I don't know. I don't think on this
Speaker 1: one for a while. We'll see what we can come
Speaker 1: up with here. I still think it's funny that we
Speaker 1: could probably come up with an acronym with the people
Speaker 1: who are here. Yo, you ain't lying, like for real,
Speaker 1: we could probably accidentally come up with a pretty cool
Speaker 1: phrase for us. Let's see Merlin, but did you die? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think that was actually old Doctor Jung's best role
Speaker 1: was mister Shao. Let's go back here, says plus China
Speaker 1: is building the most expensive damns plus energy things. They
Speaker 1: are just dumping money, Yes they are, and they are
Speaker 1: hoping to God or their god. If the Communist Party
Speaker 1: believes in such things, I don't believe they do. But
Speaker 1: they are hoping and praying that all the expenditures that
Speaker 1: they are making right now will save their ass in
Speaker 1: the next couple of decades. And again I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to jump on the Trump bandwagon here, but what Trump
Speaker 1: is actively trying to do is to stop that, and
Speaker 1: it seems like it might be working, so I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's still very early, but if he can continue this
Speaker 1: and get enough countries on board with basically screwing China
Speaker 1: over and not letting them become the financial hu And
Speaker 1: I've said this for years, they have built the noose
Speaker 1: literally and wrapped it around the world, not from a
Speaker 1: military place, but from an economic place, and they were
Speaker 1: getting themselves ready that Belton wrote Initiative that they were
Speaker 1: going on and on about and still are pushing for.
Speaker 1: That is literally just one more not in the noose,
Speaker 1: and they will eventually just choke the entire world out
Speaker 1: and attain their version of economic world domination unless something
Speaker 1: can be done to stop them. It only makes sense
Speaker 1: seeing as how we are their number one buyer, that
Speaker 1: we could be the ones to put the brakes on it.
Speaker 1: And we finally have a guy in office that understands
Speaker 1: global trade to this level and is putting the brakes
Speaker 1: on it. I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it, but you know that's just me. Alex says.
Speaker 1: I see lots of people saying Jesus never existed, but
Speaker 1: both of the most of it is rooted in the Bible.
Speaker 1: Is all lie blah blah blah, not any research. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean most experts in history at least acknowledge that
Speaker 1: Yeshiah of Nazareth was a real dude who really walked
Speaker 1: the earth and was really crucified under the term of
Speaker 1: ponscious Pilot, third governor of Judea. Now all of the
Speaker 1: things about his life, all the things about his resurrection,
Speaker 1: if he was who he claimed he was, these things. Fine,
Speaker 1: people are going to debate this until literally the end
Speaker 1: of time. I get it, and like, I'm down to
Speaker 1: have those debates of people, a lot of them. It's
Speaker 1: I understand, there's like a tinge of faith that has
Speaker 1: to go in that realm. But again, you could literally
Speaker 1: look up right now secular writers that spoke about Jesus
Speaker 1: from the first century, and there will be eight names
Speaker 1: that pop up. Secular writers. One of them, Royce confirmed
Speaker 1: this would be the Talmud. The guys that I'm not
Speaker 1: saying oversaw his death, but the guys that were pushing
Speaker 1: for him to die wrote about him in the Talmud.
Speaker 1: If he as a dude that didn't exist, why would
Speaker 1: they write him, especially if he was a guy that
Speaker 1: had a religious uprising that was trying to counter the Sanhedrin.
Speaker 1: If anything, once they killed him, they would have wiped
Speaker 1: his name from the history books to erase anything, and
Speaker 1: not make a martyr out of this guy and just
Speaker 1: let him be some crazy guy that spoke about some
Speaker 1: things once upon a time. They even wrote about him.
Speaker 1: So to say that he never existed, I find that
Speaker 1: to be just asinine. But there are tons of people
Speaker 1: that we've even had on the Cult of Conspiracy that
Speaker 1: believe this, And I just I personally don't understand the
Speaker 1: line of thinking other than people who just don't want
Speaker 1: to believe that he existed. And what difference does it
Speaker 1: make if you're not a believer in Christianity? What difference
Speaker 1: does it make if the guy walked the earth or not.
Speaker 1: If you're somebody who goes against the Christian faith and
Speaker 1: doesn't believe it for other reasons, the guy being real
Speaker 1: shouldn't matter in that regard. Right, it's like the nation
Speaker 1: of Israel if you don't believe that Jacob from the
Speaker 1: Old Testament later changed his name to Israel. Right, if
Speaker 1: you don't believe that he existed, or King David even
Speaker 1: or Charlemagne, if you don't believe that that existed, then
Speaker 1: what difference does it make to you? Now, Like that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. There's tons of evidence to the contrary. But like,
Speaker 1: if you're just gonna disagree with it for the sake
Speaker 1: of disagreeing with it, then what's the point here, Royce?
Speaker 2: I's see your hand, brother, go ahead.
Speaker 3: So as far as the whole purpose of arguing, it
Speaker 3: could be a conviction issue as far as what he believes,
Speaker 3: Like if you believe something is so staunchly and you
Speaker 3: see other people who are who I mean, how many
Speaker 3: times did he say, well, why can't you see it?
Speaker 3: Why can't you see it's basically as clear as day
Speaker 3: or night, I guess in this case, So whatever somebody
Speaker 3: believes something so hash or this is giving him trying
Speaker 3: to give as much credit as possible, But I think
Speaker 3: mess with him or with anybody else if you believe
Speaker 3: anything very starnge with the like, so like what's black?
Speaker 3: What's white? All right? Well I see this as black.
Speaker 3: You're telling me this is green? What the fuck is
Speaker 3: wrong with you? So I think it comes also like maybe,
Speaker 3: I mean, he said with the whole debating why I
Speaker 3: haven't had anybody to be in five years? It's very
Speaker 3: very a potty, very very very very very arrogant. So
Speaker 3: it's like, well, I see this, well, why why aren't
Speaker 3: you smart enough to see this? And that's kind of
Speaker 3: how it came across.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder was that just his tone of voice,
Speaker 1: because that just might be how he talks, or was
Speaker 1: it do you believe that was his actual like his
Speaker 1: mentality behind it?
Speaker 3: That's how it's very condescending, just as the whole I mean,
Speaker 3: I I was cringing the entire time. I was like,
Speaker 3: I was like, what the actual fuck?
Speaker 1: You know, there's multiple reasons why I wear these glasses
Speaker 1: on camera. I'm going to say that, And then he
Speaker 1: even made a mention of that. Rick Flair Randy Savage
Speaker 1: was about to be like you, but like, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to lean into it too hard. But also I
Speaker 1: wear them because they are absolutely retarded.
Speaker 2: And I like that.
Speaker 1: So but anyway, anyway, so I see what you mean.
Speaker 1: You think it might be a conviction issue and also
Speaker 1: a bit of an arrogance issue as far as this
Speaker 1: one's concerned, I think so.
Speaker 3: And then as far as the whole town issues. So
Speaker 3: first of all, I need to do more research on that.
Speaker 3: So I'm still going through tomorrow. It takes a while
Speaker 3: to get through the entire thing. I will look up
Speaker 3: so San Padrin, are the tractatement Santadron, I believe is
Speaker 3: what might have it in it? So as I go through,
Speaker 3: I will let you know. Also maybe I can just
Speaker 3: google where in the town what it is. I mean,
Speaker 3: even Freshandy. In general, I believe it's spoken about as
Speaker 3: far as what's going on in the times, and a
Speaker 3: lot of their comes, like they're called the note stream
Speaker 3: where the people from Nazareth, So that's not it's not
Speaker 3: not unheard us.
Speaker 1: Right, Also talking about the sand Hadrian or Sandhi.
Speaker 3: Hedron hegen Hedron, Sam he excuse me.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you this too, as we
Speaker 1: were talking about last night about the temple being rebuilt hypothetically,
Speaker 1: of course, is it in the understanding that once the
Speaker 1: temple is rebuilt that they would reconstitute the sand Hedron.
Speaker 3: That's one of the whole ideas about the Messiah. I
Speaker 3: mean that the temple will happen, the sand Heedron will
Speaker 3: be reinstituted, the sacrifices will also be reissued. So it's
Speaker 3: entire thing because because God essentially set up at least
Speaker 3: for or how we understand it, that we have, we
Speaker 3: are supposed to have a certain court system. And yes,
Speaker 3: also there are questions and the gamara that sometimes go unanswered,
Speaker 3: like they can positive for certain things, but sometimes at
Speaker 3: the end of the day they're just like, well, we
Speaker 3: really don't know, so we're going to wait up until
Speaker 3: Elijah the prophet actually comes and says, all right, here's
Speaker 3: how the laws followed.
Speaker 5: That Tony, Oh, sorry, I only unmuted myself by accident,
Speaker 5: but I was about to chime in. I think the
Speaker 5: sand Hendron must have ended in the first or second century.
Speaker 5: But there was this other court system called the kahal
Speaker 5: system that existed in Poland and the Russian Empire, and
Speaker 5: it seems like a very similar thing. What do you
Speaker 5: think about that? Have you heard of it?
Speaker 3: So, first of all, I haven't heard of it, but
Speaker 3: I know that basically since the Temple of temples were destroyed.
Speaker 3: Like the the court system as we had it with
Speaker 3: the end Hadron were don't have the same in power
Speaker 3: like before the sand Hendron could actually put people to
Speaker 3: death for certain things. They can't do that now. So
Speaker 3: like basically the most you'll have is a couple of
Speaker 3: rabbis who act as arbiters between a couple of people
Speaker 3: as far as monetary goes. And then I heard a
Speaker 3: story fairly recently that when after I think the Seven
Speaker 3: Day War, when when the Jews took back over the
Speaker 3: Tumble Mount, there are a lot of questions of whether
Speaker 3: or not, excuse me, the Jews were allowed on the
Speaker 3: Tumble Mount itself, and also should should that be a
Speaker 3: good time to try to re institute the sand Hendron,
Speaker 3: But it just it didn't turn out that way. So
Speaker 3: right now we're not supposed to have it, either either
Speaker 3: the temple or or this. But even as you said before, Jacob,
Speaker 3: the temple, the Doman, the rock would need to be xnaye,
Speaker 3: you know, for there to be a Jewish temple, and
Speaker 3: that would take an all out war or yes or
Speaker 3: sure a work of God, oh.
Speaker 1: That would We're talking about taking down something that these
Speaker 1: people view second tier as important as Mecca itself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to tear that down. Oh, a war, a war to
Speaker 1: end all wars in the Middle East is what we
Speaker 1: were talking.
Speaker 3: Is that now? Is that true as far as the
Speaker 3: Muslims actually considering it that vital, because I heard something
Speaker 3: a long time ago that they that essentially said that
Speaker 3: up until nineteen forty, up until the Jews actually started
Speaker 3: to go back to Israel, that the don of the
Speaker 3: Rock wasn't like that great of a player. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like it's a place, but like I know that
Speaker 3: the whole dome or the whole dome of the Rock
Speaker 3: is because they I think they believe that certain rock
Speaker 3: is where I guess Mohammed saw a vision from God.
Speaker 1: I mean, they believe that's the rock where Abraham was
Speaker 1: about to sacrifice his son on so and they have
Speaker 1: guys that they make a pilgrimage to that. It's not
Speaker 1: as important as Mecca to the Islamic faith. Mecca is
Speaker 1: the like one of the five pillars. You have to
Speaker 1: make a pilgrimage to Mecca in your life if you're
Speaker 1: even considering yourself a Muslim. The Dome of the Rock
Speaker 1: is not that heavily scene, but it is absolutely viewed
Speaker 1: as a holy holy.
Speaker 2: Site to the Islamic faith.
Speaker 1: So if we're talking about tearing that down, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about every Muslim country, even countries that are
Speaker 1: cool with Israel, like the Jordan. The Jordanian king would
Speaker 1: absolutely go to war with Israel over that one. You know.
Speaker 1: It's to that point though, when the Temple was torn
Speaker 1: down in seventy eight d right, and the sand Heedron
Speaker 1: went by the wayside, or like went off as they did.
Speaker 1: As it stands right now, as far as the Jewish
Speaker 1: faith is concerned, I like so and the only thing
Speaker 1: that I could kind of equate this to with my
Speaker 1: knowledge basicly like Catholicism And bear with me here, they
Speaker 1: have your head guide, the pope, right and you have
Speaker 1: his conclave or college of cardinals that's underneath him. They
Speaker 1: don't have like a head Jewish dude that's like the
Speaker 1: high priest, right like back in those days it was
Speaker 1: the guy Caiaphas. Do they currently have a high Jewish
Speaker 1: priest who's like the top dog as far as that's concerned,
Speaker 1: or that's not a thing. Ntil the sand Hedrons made
Speaker 1: a thing again, how does that work.
Speaker 3: So right now, as far as priests goes, there is
Speaker 3: no such thing. There's no such thing as a high priest.
Speaker 3: Like right now, all kahanim are essentially the same.
Speaker 2: You said, is that like a high rabbi?
Speaker 3: So Han memes the the plural of Cohen, So you
Speaker 3: have Kohanim. So adding the i m makes it plural
Speaker 3: in Hebrew.
Speaker 1: Gotcha?
Speaker 10: So uh, yeah, there are all of the Cohens or
Speaker 10: him are all basically at the same level, all the
Speaker 10: leaving the Levites are at the level.
Speaker 3: They are in the same thing with with everyone else
Speaker 3: is Israel. Now there are chief rabbis, but generally that's
Speaker 3: chief rabbis of certain areas.
Speaker 2: Administrational purposes.
Speaker 1: Like you'd have so many temples that are under this
Speaker 1: chief rabbi's domain, so to speak.
Speaker 3: Maybe, but like so I know that in Israel, so
Speaker 3: you have the you have the chief the chief rabbi
Speaker 3: of like this, uh this Fardom, and the chief rabbi
Speaker 3: of the Ogonism that I think. So this is getting
Speaker 3: into waters. I don't know as much about, okay, but
Speaker 3: right now there's no real hierarchy, is I mean? Also,
Speaker 3: there are so many different synagogues, sects, and like so
Speaker 3: never heard that there's a there's a wonderful phrase, there's
Speaker 3: two Jews, there's three opinions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 3: So it's absolutely one percent true. So to get all
Speaker 3: of the Jews to fall under one person right now,
Speaker 3: it's not not right now?
Speaker 1: Okay, So you'll know as far as this goes the
Speaker 1: the Jewish faith, how again, just trying to convert it
Speaker 1: to or at least trying to show comparison to the
Speaker 1: Catholic faith. So you have like a priest, you have
Speaker 1: a bishop, you have an archbishop, you have a cardinal,
Speaker 1: you have the pope. In the Jewish faith, you don't
Speaker 1: have you have rabbi and then you have like above
Speaker 1: him another level of rabbi, or it kind of goes
Speaker 1: more towards like chief rabbi over like is there even
Speaker 1: a rank and file to the clerical class of rabbiticals?
Speaker 3: So it's more like you have so in Hebrew it's gad,
Speaker 3: which basically means like so there are there are rabbis
Speaker 3: who are very well known who whether they how do
Speaker 3: you say pasca halacha in English? That like they'll they
Speaker 3: will give a a rule about Jewish law. Right, So
Speaker 3: you'll have an expert in certain areas, and you'll have
Speaker 3: very you you will have righteous individuals and they one
Speaker 3: person might be from Bells, another might be from Summer,
Speaker 3: one might be from Khabad. But so there's no like
Speaker 3: hierarchy as as far as things like, there are. There
Speaker 3: are those who are recognized as great stages, who are wise,
Speaker 3: who know the Torah. That's pretty much about it. And
Speaker 3: I think maybe obviously maybe politically you have like the
Speaker 3: chief rabbies of certain areas, or you have so we
Speaker 3: since we don't have a sahedron, we have small they're
Speaker 3: called or a small bait dean, which is a house
Speaker 3: of judges, which consists of at least three people. Like
Speaker 3: if somebody were to convert, they need to go in
Speaker 3: front of three rabbis, So you'll have heads of those,
Speaker 3: you'll have heads of yeshivahs and colleges. So there are
Speaker 3: I don't want say there's a hier argument. There's not
Speaker 3: necessarily there's just there are those that are recognized as
Speaker 3: being wholly and special and stages, but like they're not.
Speaker 3: One sage from Kabad is not as could be on
Speaker 3: the same level as a sage from Som or or
Speaker 3: bells or what have you. These you're just various sects
Speaker 3: and see them.
Speaker 1: Okay, got you. I've actually never known that. I I
Speaker 1: didn't know if there was like a arch rabbi position
Speaker 1: or something like that. So okay, you have basically people
Speaker 1: that are dudes that once they become a part of
Speaker 1: the rabbidical class, they might dedicate their lives to a
Speaker 1: certain portion of the uh study of dot dot dot,
Speaker 1: and they may later become an expert in that field
Speaker 1: of study or something like that. But that doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: make them more or less of a rabbi than this
Speaker 1: other guy who's working on his own slice of the
Speaker 1: pie over here. It's kind of like you're either in
Speaker 1: the click or you're not.
Speaker 3: Right, and you'll have an expert in ritual slaughter, you'll
Speaker 3: have an expert in kosher in general, you'll have an
Speaker 3: expert in in shabists or whatever. Like if you ever
Speaker 3: have practical questions, they're like that somebody might not know,
Speaker 3: Like they were just like an obscure one that I
Speaker 3: heard a long time. I don't necessarily answer, was that, well,
Speaker 3: since we have a prohibition of meat and milk, well
Speaker 3: if I dip my So if I stir my coffee
Speaker 3: with my glasses with my right, I do dairy with
Speaker 3: my left, they do part of like was so like
Speaker 3: there sometimes there are just these very obscure questions that
Speaker 3: nobody ever thinks of, and you have to have these
Speaker 3: people who are very wives and who understand the law
Speaker 3: and what it really means to be able to answer
Speaker 3: these questions, like we didn't have microwaves a couple, you know,
Speaker 3: thousands of year years ago. So what so what is
Speaker 3: a microwave considered? Like? Is is it considered cooking? Is
Speaker 3: it considered? And then this is it considered that? So
Speaker 3: that's why we have these sages who have spent a
Speaker 3: lot of time learning to understand what all this stuff means.
Speaker 1: Got you to find them the interpretation of the law
Speaker 1: as it applies to the Jews of today, got you correct?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Fair enough.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you and all of your knowledge that you
Speaker 1: do have. I know you're not the all knowing Jew,
Speaker 1: but you're also our resident Jewish homie. So the questions
Speaker 1: that we have literally simply must come to you. So
Speaker 1: it'd be like.
Speaker 3: That, I mean, you're you're and you're also asking the
Speaker 3: questions that for the most part, I have a fairly
Speaker 3: decent amount of knowledge on.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that's also pretty that comes in pretty clutch,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because good God, in the
Speaker 1: conspiracy community, it is like it has become cool to
Speaker 1: hate the Jews again. I don't I don't know when
Speaker 1: and how and why this has happened, but I can't
Speaker 1: find many people in the conspiracy well, I want to
Speaker 1: say that, I'll say they're they're definitely sectioning off into
Speaker 1: two camps, those that like are cool with the Jews
Speaker 1: and those that think the Hitler might have been the
Speaker 1: good guy in World War Two. In the conspiracy community,
Speaker 1: that seems to be the way things are shaking out.
Speaker 1: And it's like, boy, oh boy, this is these are
Speaker 1: people that like went a little too hard down the
Speaker 1: internet rabbit hole and never came up and checked up
Speaker 1: for air like ever. And yup, that's that's definitely a thing,
Speaker 1: especially in our day and age today. All right, So
Speaker 1: let's get back to the chat here, perfect time for
Speaker 1: this meme. Oh boy, more Jo's witness Yo, Alex the
Speaker 1: rip SpongeBob getting ready to fuck up some Jehovah's Witness
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. Let's see here the only they only think
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty because that's how many God could tolerate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel that, Merlin. I feel like old Boy stole
Speaker 1: the plot from Yeah, the Zeitgeist movie. I am going
Speaker 1: to check that out and see how closely that ties
Speaker 1: into what he's saying, because that's true. I mean, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong. We have used movies as basis is
Speaker 1: for episodes before, and I've even used movies as like
Speaker 1: a research tool before. But usually when I do that,
Speaker 1: especially if there's a part of the movie where they'll
Speaker 1: go in depth about some sort of historical precedence that
Speaker 1: led them to the plot of the movie, I'll go
Speaker 1: back and look at the historical precedents, but I'll mention
Speaker 1: that I found it first in a movie, and like,
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's cool. I really hope that that's not
Speaker 1: what this guy did, because I'm you know, plagiarizing is
Speaker 1: one thing, and I get it. Everybody's trying to do
Speaker 1: what they got to do to make their content. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I yep. Anyway, let's see, could someone mute themselves? Please?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: I don't know who that was, but yeah, zombie. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: let's see. I am enjoying the religious conversations, but now
Speaker 1: I'm wondering how long until we start singing hymns and shit.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's all only a YouTube video away
Speaker 1: at this point, right, Let's see.
Speaker 2: At least I didn't start this.
Speaker 1: If I was Jewish, every passover I would say, pass
Speaker 1: me over another beer. Lol. I think they can drink
Speaker 1: wine during Passover. I'm but there is also kosher beer,
Speaker 1: so hey, why not?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then Raven said culture comes from values, norms, beliefs, ceremonies, rituals, languages,
Speaker 1: and symbols. All these combined defined culture, especially passed down
Speaker 1: from generation to generation with the influences from other social
Speaker 1: or environmental impacts that can change cultures.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, all.
Speaker 1: Right, some, Now that conversation's out of the way, let's
Speaker 1: get back to what I had prepared anyway, And I
Speaker 1: don't mind, by the way that we took some detours.
Speaker 1: I love this. I love how the conversation does this,
Speaker 1: especially when the retinue gets together. Ah, maybe that's not
Speaker 1: that's too wordy. I O don't know. We'll work on it.
Speaker 1: We'll work on it anyway, all right. So This is
Speaker 1: from MSM, and let's talk about Klaus Schwab. The World
Speaker 1: Economic Forum opens up new probe into founder Klaus Schwab again.
Speaker 1: This was written one day ago. World Economic former founder
Speaker 1: Klaus Schwab is under investigation by the organization he created
Speaker 1: after a new whistleblower letter alleged financial and ethical misconduct
Speaker 1: by long term, longtime leader and his wife. So before
Speaker 1: we go any further, wait a minute, you mean to
Speaker 1: tell me the leader of the World Economic Forum was
Speaker 1: like embezzling money. What that's like saying? What do you
Speaker 1: mean this bank owner was using the bank as his
Speaker 1: own personal piggy bank. What like? I know, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, But yeah, I feel like there's a lot
Speaker 1: more to him stepping down than just he got to
Speaker 1: retirement agent said he's done. I think that there was
Speaker 1: a lot that went into this, especially because it wasn't
Speaker 1: like he was prepping it for months and months and months.
Speaker 1: This came out of nowhere. He basically hailed a board
Speaker 1: meet and said he's stepping down, and he dipped. That
Speaker 1: doesn't just happen with big institutions, and it certainly doesn't
Speaker 1: happen with the founding homie of the World Economic Forum,
Speaker 1: but you know, let's learn a little bit about himself, right.
Speaker 1: The anonymous letter was sent last week from the Forum's
Speaker 1: board and raised concerns about the Forum's governments and workplace culture,
Speaker 1: including allegations that Schwab's family mixed their personal affairs with
Speaker 1: the Forum's resources without proper oversight. According to the letter
Speaker 1: and people familiar with the matter, again, color me shocked, y'all,
Speaker 1: but let's go. It included allegations that Klaus Schwabs asked
Speaker 1: junior employees to withdraw thousands of dollars from ATMs on
Speaker 1: his behalf and use forum funds to pay for private
Speaker 1: in room massages at hotels. Just you know, you know,
Speaker 1: it was only a few years ago. We were just
Speaker 1: learning about this guy, well, Jeff Epstein, who was also
Speaker 1: using you know, women to do quote unquote massages. And
Speaker 1: that seems to be a that seems to be a
Speaker 1: pretty incendiary term to be thrown around, especially when you
Speaker 1: got high dollar figures and people like this.
Speaker 2: So i'mone read that one again.
Speaker 1: The allegations is that Klaus Schwab asked junior employees to
Speaker 1: withdraw thousands of dollars from ATMs on his behalf used
Speaker 1: Forum funds, the World Economic Forum funds to pay for
Speaker 1: private in room massages at hotels. Okay, we're already off
Speaker 1: to a great start here. It also led to his wife,
Speaker 1: Hilda or HILDI, I don't know, a former Forum employee
Speaker 1: scheduled token quote unquote Forum funded meetings in order to
Speaker 1: justify luxury holiday travel at organization's expense. That doesn't That
Speaker 1: doesn't sting as much to read out loud, because yeah,
Speaker 1: most big businesses will use company funds to go on
Speaker 1: like a company retreat at some like crazy resort for
Speaker 1: a week, like that's a thing. But for it to
Speaker 1: be brought up with some sort of allegation to it,
Speaker 1: I feel like there might be a little bit more
Speaker 1: to it, Like they probably weren't going to the Four Seasons,
Speaker 1: you know. I don't know if they were going to
Speaker 1: Epstein Island or not. I personally believe so. But I'm
Speaker 1: wondering what kind of quote unquote luxury holiday travel expenses
Speaker 1: that the Forum was funding. I cannot wait to see
Speaker 1: how this shakes out, it says. Klaus Schwab in recent days,
Speaker 1: argued against the investigation, telling board members that he denied
Speaker 1: the unsubstantiated allegations and that he would challenge them in
Speaker 1: a lawsuit. The people said the Board of trustees decided
Speaker 1: to open a probe during an emergency meeting on Easter Sunday, Yo.
Speaker 1: They literally called an emergency meeting for the World Economic
Speaker 1: Forum board members on Easter Sunday to have this conversation.
Speaker 1: The next day, Klaus Schwab steps down. That's the again,
Speaker 1: this is not looking good for your boy here. Schwab
Speaker 1: opted to resign immediately as the chairman instead of staying
Speaker 1: on for an extended transition period as previously planned. Then,
Speaker 1: Schwab said through a spokesperson that they deny every allegation
Speaker 1: in the whistleblower complaint. To protect their reputation, Klaus Schwab
Speaker 1: intends to file a lawsuit against whoever is behind the
Speaker 1: anonymous letter and quote anybody who spreads these mistruths. The
Speaker 1: spokesperson said, whenever Schwab charged massages at a hotel to
Speaker 1: the Forum while on travel, he'd always pay the Forum back.
Speaker 1: The spokesperson said, that's their argument, not that it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: They literally just said, yeah, that happened, but he always
Speaker 1: paid it. Back though, so like that, I believe, at
Speaker 1: least in this country, I think we would call that
Speaker 1: in a mission of guilt. But like, all right then, yeah,
Speaker 1: Schwab and his wife denied allegations about the luxury travel
Speaker 1: and withdrawing money as they literally just said that when
Speaker 1: they did withdraw money they would pay it back. Then
Speaker 1: denied the allegations about withdraw money because again that wow.
Speaker 1: In a statement, the Forum said it's bored unanimously supported
Speaker 1: the decision to initiate an independent investigation following a whistleblower
Speaker 1: letter containing allegations against FORM chairperson chairman Klaus Schwab. The
Speaker 1: decision was made after consultation with external legal counsel oh Man.
Speaker 1: They've already lawyered up the WF already lawyered up against
Speaker 1: their chairmen.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: The Form said it takes these allegations seriously, but they
Speaker 1: remain unproven and will await the outcome of the investigation
Speaker 1: to comment further. The letter also raises concerns about how
Speaker 1: Klau Schwab treated female employees and how his leadership over
Speaker 1: decades allegedly allowed instances of sexual harassment and other discriminatory
Speaker 1: behavior to go unchecked in the workplace allegations that were
Speaker 1: raised in a Wall Street Journal article and previously investigated
Speaker 1: by the Forum. The Forum disputed the journal's reporting at
Speaker 1: the time, and Schwab denied the allegations against him. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, when it rains, it pours, and it does,
Speaker 1: in fact appear to start to be drizzling for our boy, Klaus,
Speaker 1: he says. In a quote here, Klaus Schwab says, we
Speaker 1: feel compelled to share a comprehensive account of systemic governments, failures,
Speaker 1: and abuses of power that have taken place over many
Speaker 1: years under the unchecked authority of Klauschwap.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, that's the letter talking about Klauswap.
Speaker 1: Which said it was from current and former Forum employees.
Speaker 1: Oh so this letter wasn't just from one person, it
Speaker 1: was from multiple. That's also not a good look. The
Speaker 1: organizer of the annual Davos conference has been shaking up
Speaker 1: its leadershi in recent weeks in response to a previous
Speaker 1: board probe into its workplace culture. In a recent memo,
Speaker 1: Borg Brenda Brendai, the Forum CEO, said the Forum would
Speaker 1: take steps to address leadership issues identified by the prior
Speaker 1: probe and that the investigation didn't substantiate allegations against its founder.
Speaker 1: A few weeks ago, Schwab eighty seven although I think
Speaker 1: he's eighty eight now, said he'd step down as non
Speaker 1: executive chairman of the Forum's board, and the Forum said
Speaker 1: succession process would be completed by January twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: The whistleblower letter blew up that timeline. Behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: high stakes boardroom drama unfolded, pitting Schwab against the global
Speaker 1: power players on the Forum's board. The board includes celebrities
Speaker 1: like Yo Yo Ma. Wait, really, I had no idea
Speaker 1: the world renowned cellist was a part of the World
Speaker 1: Economic Forum. I was a fan of Yo Yo Ma.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that he was a fucking WF cuck.
Speaker 1: That damn it man. That that kind of does sting me.
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, shock everybody. I like classical music too,
Speaker 1: and death metal and everything in between. And politicians like
Speaker 1: Al Gore. Yeah, we knew that. We knew that one.
Speaker 1: We knew that one for sure. He won the Nobel
Speaker 1: Peace Prize off of grifting off of global warming, which
Speaker 1: is not even what he said it was, because if
Speaker 1: it was, then my house would be beachfront property right now,
Speaker 1: but yeah, whatever, anyway, moving on. It also has business
Speaker 1: leaders like AXA Group CEO Thomas Booburrole Okay, Annex Center
Speaker 1: CEO Julie Sweet. I don't know either of those people,
Speaker 1: but I'm assuming those are top dogs of things and stuff.
Speaker 1: Trust between the Board and Schwab had been deteriorating over
Speaker 1: the course of the past year, some people said. After
Speaker 1: receiving the whistleblower letter, the Audit and Risk Committee of
Speaker 1: the Board decided over the weekend that it would open
Speaker 1: an independent investigation into the allegations. One allegation raised in
Speaker 1: the letter is the Schwab family use of the Villa
Speaker 1: Mundy luxury property purchased before the pandemic by the Forum,
Speaker 1: next to the organization's headquarters in Geneva. Villa Mundy is
Speaker 1: a sprawling modernist home built in the nineteen fifties overlooking
Speaker 1: Lake Geneva. It was renovated over several years and opened
Speaker 1: as a meeting and conference center in twenty twenty three. Okay,
Speaker 1: and again that's not like crazy. You have business owners
Speaker 1: and CEOs that will buy property next to they're the
Speaker 1: big spot that they use, and they'll use that also
Speaker 1: as like a second tier meeting place or workplace, or
Speaker 1: let people from out of town stay at this place
Speaker 1: while they're doing conferences or whatever. It's like, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: not necessarily off. Just looking at it from the outside here,
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem crazy. But it also says that the
Speaker 1: whistleblower letter maintains that hilde Schwab maintains tight control over
Speaker 1: the use of the building and that portions of the
Speaker 1: property are understood to be reserved for private family access.
Speaker 2: The Schwabs deny the claim.
Speaker 1: The letter says the Forum paid about three or I'm
Speaker 1: sorry thirty million dollars to purchase the property and another
Speaker 1: roughly twenty million dollars to renovate it. Hildy Schwab helped
Speaker 1: oversee renovations to the property, which had fallen into disrepair.
Speaker 1: The refurbished incorporated materials such as recycled glass and fish nets.
Speaker 1: According to local news reports, Oh well, and that's so
Speaker 1: green of them, and that's so so green and so
Speaker 1: good for the earth because they used recycle glass and
Speaker 1: recycled fishing nets. What were they using recycled fishing nets
Speaker 1: for in home renovations?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: All right? Weird? Flex But okay, uh the Schwab spokesperson
Speaker 1: said the renovations to the house, which were costly because
Speaker 1: of the need to preserve historical features, which I get,
Speaker 1: has boosted the value of the property. The spokesperson added
Speaker 1: that the Schwabs lived near Villa Mundy and have used
Speaker 1: it only for Forum related events. So the family owns it,
Speaker 1: but they only use it for form events. But then
Speaker 1: people that work for the forum say that there's obviously
Speaker 1: spots that are reserved for family access only, and the
Speaker 1: family is saying that that's not true. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like this probe is going to have a lot
Speaker 1: of things come out of it. Here. In a statement,
Speaker 1: hill De Schwab said the building is a role model
Speaker 1: for sustainable architecture, which is dear to my heart, and
Speaker 1: I was glad to show it to people who expressed interests.
Speaker 1: Yeah to the tune of twenty million dollars, but okay.
Speaker 1: Over the weekend, Schwab told board members that the whistleblower
Speaker 1: allegations were unfair and inaccurate, and he sought a chance
Speaker 1: to address the board during its Sunday meeting. The board
Speaker 1: decided against that, leaving Schwap feeling that he didn't have
Speaker 1: his say, well, yeah, yeah, that's kind of what a
Speaker 1: secret meeting is for, so that you don't, you know,
Speaker 1: join in the secret meeting. But okay, he never had
Speaker 1: a chance to give his side of the story to
Speaker 1: the board or the audit committee. The SCHWAZ spokesperson said
Speaker 1: Schwap forfeited his pension of five million Swiss francs as
Speaker 1: a sign of good faith to the forum. He said, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, yes to the outside five million that you
Speaker 1: forfeit might seem super magnanimous of him, but like, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what his net worth is, but I'm
Speaker 1: assuming that that's like a drop in the bucket, you know.
Speaker 1: But all right, that's like Donald Trump also like not
Speaker 1: taking a penny from his paycheck while he's in office,
Speaker 1: as most presidents do, by the way, because they're typically
Speaker 1: worth a whole lot more than four hundred k year.
Speaker 1: It's a kind gesture, but also it's kind of a
Speaker 1: drop in the bucket.
Speaker 2: But either way. The form announces resignation on Monday.
Speaker 1: This is from him, he says, following my recent announcement,
Speaker 1: as I enter my eighty eighth year, I've decided to
Speaker 1: step down from the position of chair and as a
Speaker 1: member of the board of trustees with the immediate effect,
Speaker 1: I'll bet you do. And that's kind of my point here.
Speaker 1: If he had nothing to hide, if there were there's
Speaker 1: no validity to any of these allegations, then he wouldn't
Speaker 1: have stepped down. He would have stayed and fought right.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he did it the day after
Speaker 1: the meeting to like start the probe happened, it's not
Speaker 1: a good look. That is not a good look for him,
Speaker 1: even a little bit. Uh, you know, that's just great,
Speaker 1: that's great.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the memes in the chat right now.
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle just like, oh, holding his money, yeah, no doubt,
Speaker 1: no doubt, spend it like he stole it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of been his whole thing.
Speaker 1: Oh, y'all been going to hand with these memes and
Speaker 1: a lot of these y'all For anybody listening, I can
Speaker 1: read the memes, but it doesn't have the same effect
Speaker 1: as watching the memes or watching the gifts. I'm telling y'all.
Speaker 1: Please come check out the Cajun Night on Patreon. It's
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Speaker 1: Throw in your own two cents enjoy these crazy memes
Speaker 1: and gifts. It's amazing. The crew always comes with the fire,
Speaker 1: if you will. Let's see Man Bear Pig. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: cannot think of Al Gore without thinking of Man Bear
Speaker 1: Pig for sure. Raven one thousand percent. Also, I would
Speaker 1: argue South Park is the best TV show to ever air,
Speaker 1: right alongside Mash.
Speaker 2: I know some people don't like Mash. I love it.
Speaker 1: Bro, you need to get a discord, Okay, so your point, Merlin,
Speaker 1: we just were told this about the cult of conspiracy.
Speaker 1: Need to get a discord the Caje to Night group here.
Speaker 1: We gotta get bigger if we're gonna have a justification
Speaker 1: for a discord, because at this point, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess y'all could just kind of comment under the videos
Speaker 1: and have y'all's kind of discord that way. But I mean,
Speaker 1: how many do you even have to have a certain
Speaker 1: number to start a discord channel? I have never done that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh, we'll figure it out. Let's see.
Speaker 1: We got a couple of other things that were brought
Speaker 1: up here. Raven sent in an article. What in the hell? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, we've got that one home, And there was
Speaker 1: another one that was just brought up down here. I
Speaker 1: want to see which one it is, because I have
Speaker 1: a couple of other things I wanted to bring up
Speaker 1: as well. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and share the screen on this one because boy oh boy.
Speaker 1: So it's anybody who has been living under a rock
Speaker 1: for the past two weeks. There was a thing that
Speaker 1: happened in Low Earth orbit where six women think they
Speaker 1: made history, I guess, and went into Low Earth orbit.
Speaker 1: So for anybody who didn't know the Blue Origins hatch
Speaker 1: mistake exposed NASA's three hour re entry rules versus Jeff
Speaker 1: Bezos thirty second fake door stunt. Somebody just brought this
Speaker 1: up actually on the Cult of Conspiracy Live, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, I am currently before I watched this video,
Speaker 1: I'm of the belief that these women did go to
Speaker 1: Low Earth orbit. There's a lot of people that are
Speaker 1: saying the entire thing was fake. You could tell from
Speaker 1: the windows of those are just screens, and like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I haven't done any kind of real research into this yet,
Speaker 1: but let's check it out here. It says, let's talk
Speaker 1: about space re entry protocols because what happened with Blue
Speaker 1: Origins historic all female flight. Okay, hmm, I would say
Speaker 1: that history was not made here. The Soviets sent a
Speaker 1: monkey into space and dogs into space. There have been
Speaker 1: female astronauts before. I would venture to say that this
Speaker 1: was not historic whatsoever. But okay, we can we can
Speaker 1: do that here it says doesn't match reality. When NASA
Speaker 1: astronauts reform to Earth, they sit in the capsule for hours.
Speaker 1: Why because the hatch is externally sealed and pressurized. Ground
Speaker 1: crews run safety checks for toxic fumes, radiation, and structural integrity. Nobody,
Speaker 1: nobody unbuckles mid plummet at seven hundred miles per hour
Speaker 1: to casual pop the door open from the inside. That's
Speaker 1: not physics, that's suicide. Yet here's Blue or Capsule. Live
Speaker 1: footage shows the hatch cracked open from within. Oh wow, okay,
Speaker 1: before Bezos even grabs his shiny little key, the crew
Speaker 1: members panic slams it shut like they're hiding a secret. Meanwhile, Bezos,
Speaker 1: still sweating from his viral face plant fail. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was great, strolls up to pretending to unlock the door.
Speaker 1: NASA's protocol strict external control. Blue Origins version a reality
Speaker 1: show stunt, And if that hatch wasn't sealed during the
Speaker 1: re entry, where's the explosive decompression the emergency alarms. Either
Speaker 1: Bezos invented new laws of physics or this was a
Speaker 1: stage spectacle to distract from his rocket crash proposal fiasco.
Speaker 1: Why push female empowerment narrative while breaking basic space safety rules?
Speaker 1: The answers written in the loopholes. You tell me Hollywood
Speaker 1: magic or a two hundred million dollar lie? Huh Okay.
Speaker 1: Now I am not somebody who is very well versed
Speaker 1: in the laws of space travel and pressurization and all
Speaker 1: of that. I will say when something comes down from NASA,
Speaker 1: it usually as hot as hell from re entering the
Speaker 1: Earth's atmosphere. They were only in low Earth orbit, like,
Speaker 1: they didn't get to the van Allen radiation built and
Speaker 1: they didn't go that high up. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if that is why the pressure differential wasn't that bad
Speaker 1: or what the case was here. But you know, let's
Speaker 1: see here, this is the part with him walking up
Speaker 1: his little key. Yeah, and the door opened from the inside,
Speaker 1: which if it was a one way trip and they
Speaker 1: were gonna come back down, you wouldn't want them to
Speaker 1: be able to open that from the inside.
Speaker 2: That also makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: Huh, okay, okay, So what are we feeling, everybody in
Speaker 1: the in the chat right now? Are we feeling like
Speaker 1: that was a staged event or that these women did
Speaker 1: in fact go to low earth orbit? Because I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really.
Speaker 3: Know it as to kind of being fake. So also
Speaker 3: in that video, it was showing the whole the fact
Speaker 3: that the rocket kind of looked like a big Johnson yeah,
Speaker 3: and like came down like almost as far as the
Speaker 3: opposite as far as a woman than them coming out,
Speaker 3: definitely seemed very staged.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Merlin, what's your thoughts?
Speaker 6: All right? So they went sixty six miles though, so
Speaker 6: I don't even think they left the atmosphere. I don't
Speaker 6: even think it was lower orbit, Like, I'm not sure
Speaker 6: because I don't sixty six miles up. How far did
Speaker 6: that guy you were talking about the other night go
Speaker 6: up in the Red Bull?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, I'm gonna look this up real quick
Speaker 1: as we're talking about this. So sixty six miles converted
Speaker 1: to feet is three hundred and forty eight thousand feet. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Red Bull jump that took place red bull jump feet.
Speaker 1: Uh he fell at one hundred and twenty seven thousand
Speaker 1: feet Okay, so allegedly they went up two hundred thousand
Speaker 1: feet higher than he did.
Speaker 6: Okay, he had to have a super oxygen. Yeah, it
Speaker 6: would have to be pressure, right, I really, because you
Speaker 6: can't allow oxygen to get out damn, because then that
Speaker 6: how you would have that oxygen. He needed oxygen.
Speaker 1: That That is a very very good point. And I
Speaker 1: mean you could even look at the he because he
Speaker 1: was up there with weather balloons. He didn't have a
Speaker 1: rocket that brought him up there. And the craft that
Speaker 1: he was in was very rigid, like it was. It
Speaker 1: was a steel frame or maybe aluminum for weight, but
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like it was it looked,
Speaker 1: you know, sturdy. This looks like a bouncy house almost,
Speaker 1: and it went up allegedly two hundred thousand feet more.
Speaker 6: Now I can see maybe them pulling the stuff, uh
Speaker 6: for the footage going up at a one thirty to
Speaker 6: get that gravitational loss, you know when they go up
Speaker 6: and then they go down for like thirty seconds. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I can see that one and then them staging it
Speaker 6: because you can't Yeah, you have to have a pressure
Speaker 6: I system to go up to eye, especially if the
Speaker 6: guy on the weather balloon that.
Speaker 1: Had to have a pressure you know.
Speaker 6: I'ction dang the whole suit, the whole kicking the noodle. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you gotta worry about you got not even the heat.
Speaker 6: You gotta worry about the cold death. That shit gets
Speaker 6: fucking cold.
Speaker 1: Damn. I cannot refute any of these mans to the
Speaker 1: Blue Origin launch. It kind of seems fake to me.
Speaker 1: It does. I haven't actually looked at the numbers because
Speaker 1: I just haven't really had time in the past couple
Speaker 1: of days. But we talked about it briefly last now
Speaker 1: in the Cult Conspiracy Live, I gotta says, as we're
Speaker 1: looking at the statistics here and the facts, like I
Speaker 1: do believe that the Red Bull jump did happen, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that was Yeah, but with all the
Speaker 1: safety precautions they went through with this guy, and all
Speaker 1: of the training that he went through, the suit, he
Speaker 1: was wearing, the craft itself everything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all the safety percussions, and he wasn't coming back
Speaker 6: down in a metal mel too. Yeah, he was just falling.
Speaker 1: And then these women went up allegedly two hundred thousand
Speaker 1: higher feet than him, and there.
Speaker 6: Was wearing helmets anything, just laying in a bed.
Speaker 1: And it's not like this is like the difference between
Speaker 1: space exploration in the seventies to now. The Red Bull
Speaker 1: Jump was only a few years back. If I'm not
Speaker 1: mistaken home. Matter of fact, I just had it pulled
Speaker 1: up here. The Red Bull Jump happened in do do
Speaker 1: Come on? Now, where's it at two thousand and twenty twelve. Yeah, so, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely leaning more towards this whole thing being very fake,
Speaker 1: very staged, and especially oh my god, Katy Perry, I'm
Speaker 1: still so happy that the Internet is continuing to skull
Speaker 1: drag her. I didn't know. I know that she likes
Speaker 1: sang in space and she's claiming to be the first
Speaker 1: woman to ever sing in space. That's that's bullshit, that's
Speaker 1: a lie. But also she said what a wonderful world.
Speaker 6: What really got me is when everybody started calling the
Speaker 6: masho so I was like, there's no fucking French. But
Speaker 6: there's no way they're asking that. Like astronauts go through
Speaker 6: intense training to handle the g's just to get up there,
Speaker 6: So if you're not going through that g training, then
Speaker 6: there's no way he went off the rock. This is
Speaker 6: the equivalent makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 1: This is the equivalent of somebody wearing camo pants and
Speaker 1: going to a war zone just to take pictures and
Speaker 1: coming back and saying that they were a soldier. No
Speaker 1: you are not. You went into the fun trip one time.
Speaker 1: That's what that was. But man, okay, yeah I agree.
Speaker 1: Raven also says, I don't believe it. It looks fake
Speaker 1: as fuck. Absolutely, Alex, you agree with it. Man, I
Speaker 1: gotta tell y'all, y'all have convinced me. It's not like
Speaker 1: I was like staunchly on my horse here by any means.
Speaker 6: I just.
Speaker 1: You can't argue with that. Like that doesn't even look
Speaker 1: like they tried to make it look real well quote
Speaker 1: unquote tried. But then the bezos thing. He walks up
Speaker 1: with a key, the employee comes and like opens the door,
Speaker 1: and then they shut it real quick because like, wait,
Speaker 1: I didn't put the key in yet, you gotta close it.
Speaker 1: It's gotta look right, like, eh, it's not a good look,
Speaker 1: not a good look at all. And yeah, it takes
Speaker 1: them hours, even if it was for nothing else, Like
Speaker 1: the heat. Fine, they were in low earth orbit. Let's
Speaker 1: say it doesn't get that hot when it re enters
Speaker 1: the atmosphere. I don't know that for a fact, but
Speaker 1: let's just let's just pretend. Okay, it's the same kind
Speaker 1: of concept as whenever a submarine comes up. Well, no,
Speaker 1: it's pressurized, so I guess it wouldn't be the same.
Speaker 1: But there's like a time stamp where you can't just
Speaker 1: open the hatch as soon as the sub hits the surface,
Speaker 1: like unless you depressure the way up, but then you
Speaker 1: suffer other problems. But like, there is a time where
Speaker 1: you have to let things equalize and normalize, and they
Speaker 1: didn't do that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I'm with y'all. Ah this thing.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely leaning more towards it being completely fake, y'all. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, So there was a couple of more things
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to tonight.
Speaker 2: As far as everything's concerned.
Speaker 1: There is a wildfire in New Jersey that is currently
Speaker 1: taken over thirteen thousand acres as nearly the largest wildfire
Speaker 1: in New Jersey in over twenty years. NATO country of
Speaker 1: Denmark is set to send troops to Ukraine. However, they're
Speaker 1: sending them there without weapons. So that's interesting, and I
Speaker 1: thought we could talk about that a little bit. We
Speaker 1: ain't gotta there's an argument to be made from Live
Speaker 1: Science saying was Alexander the Great eaten by sharks? Now
Speaker 1: we thought that Alexander the Great got a type of fever.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it was like dingay or typhoid
Speaker 1: or yellow fever or whatever, from when he was fighting
Speaker 1: in India and he died on his way back to
Speaker 1: Greece or Macedonia, I should say, but is there an
Speaker 1: argument to say that he was eaten by sharks? Apparently
Speaker 1: there remains of Alexander the Great may lie under the
Speaker 1: streets of Alexandria and they have been eaten by a shark,
Speaker 1: or they may be somewhere else entirely, but one thing
Speaker 1: is for certain, archaeologists don't agree.
Speaker 2: Thought that was an interesting arcle we could talk about.
Speaker 1: Also another Live Science article, Man gets sperm making stem
Speaker 1: cell transplant In first of its kind procedure, a man
Speaker 1: in his early twenties received a transplant of his own
Speaker 1: sperm producing stem cells, which have been frozen since his childhood,
Speaker 1: in an attempt to regain fertility. Doctors are waiting to
Speaker 1: see if the treatment works. Wow, well that's interesting anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there was a couple of more things that I
Speaker 1: wanted to get to tonight that are interesting as hell,
Speaker 1: but time didn't exactly a lot.
Speaker 2: We got off into other tangents as.
Speaker 1: We do, you know, as we do. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody for coming out for this episode of
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