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want to welcome everyone back to the AH. We don't

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even need to do introductions for this guy. What's going on, Stormy?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing have to go and Pete happy

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to happy to be.

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Speaker 1: Back, good man. Let's uh. I think this will finish

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it talking about the the Robert Barons of old, and

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I think this is the one everybody's waiting for. We're

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going to start getting into the specifics of America First.

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Speaker 2: And real America first, the.

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Speaker 1: Real America first, and what did people actually believe back then?

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And we're not even talking about them, We're talking about

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what are the common person on the street believe. So

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where do you want to start.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the America First Committee. The America First

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Committee is a really really interesting thing because we talked

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before in previous episodes about the American Liberty League and

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the men that made that up, and those men didn't

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go away. And you know, we discussed at the end

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what it took to stop those men, because it really

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was the most powerful men in the country trying to

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frankly save the country. And to give you an idea,

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at the time that the America First Committee was formed,

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it really only had four policy planks. I'll get into

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those in a second, but the overarching narrative was to

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keep America out of any military intervention in Europe, right

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because there was no there was no military action happening

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anywhere else in the world. The Pacific hadn't kicked off yet,

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And it was announced on the day that lend Lease started.

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Right because Roosevelt campaigned just as Woodrow Wilson campaigned, and

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these men, that fact was not lost on these men, Right,

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like you campaigning on keeping us out of war means

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nothing because less than twenty years years ago, well within

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the professional lifetimes of these men, right, like, how much

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how long does a man usually have in a career,

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thirty years, So most of these men were roughly in

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the same positions as they were in World War One,

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and they remember thirty years ago with Drow Wilson campaigned

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on vehement anti interventionism, and his literally his only campaign

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slogan was Wilson kept us out of war. And one

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of the most famous speeches that FDR gave on the

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campaign trail was that he no American, the young man

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is going to go off to some foreign land and

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die in some foreign conflict. Right the only way that

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that would happen is over his dead body. If only

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that were true, Because unbeknownst to most of America, but

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not unbeknownst to people in elite circles and the halls

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of power. Is that Roosevelt was not only planning on

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intervening in Europe, but had been since the midway through

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his first administration. So like the man, literally, I mean

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from the very beginning, Woodrow Wilson was an idiot, right,

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Woodrow Wilson didn't run Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow Wilson was a

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lot like in his second term, he was a lot

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like Joe Biden. And I mean, really, we don't have

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TV cameras, but all right, we didn't have TV cameras

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back then.

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Speaker 1: But you can imagine knowing that his wife, his wife

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was was doing a lot of the same things that

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Joe Biden's wife was doing, and that Colonel House was

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just basically running the show.

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Speaker 2: One hundred Who did Colonel How's worked for.

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Speaker 1: And worked for the City of London. Yes, Brook work

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for the City of London.

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Speaker 2: So yes, correct, And there's one hundred percent correct. Literally

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just like we see today, it's it's no different. It's

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the same interest groups doing the exact same things. I

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caught your your interview with Tom Luongo last night, and

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I agree with almost everything he says. He knows what

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he knows about like the motivators in the financial world.

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What he doesn't know is that is that they're roughly paralleled,

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or at least his views are paralleled in like the

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private defense or private defense industries. And in we'll say,

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like it's generally called risk capital, but it's not really

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like I mean, VC is risk and yes, we all

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know now, I mean some of you guys that have

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followed me on Twitter for a couple of years. I'm

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suspended right now for being a bad boy. I got

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a twelve hour this morning for something like I posted

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like a week ago. Somebody was talking about like inheritance tax,

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basically the persecutive inheritance tax that England is trying to

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throw down on its farmers. Some communists was like, yeah, well,

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my guy, this will increase production. You know, how can

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you not think it's going to increase production? My guy?

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And I guess it's something like, how about I gave

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your head in with the rock? Will that increase production?

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My guy?

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Speaker 1: It seemed it'll make the world a better place.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, communists brain splattering. It definitely increases production, and

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it sure as shit increases motivation, Like it's a motivated workforce.

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But it's the same people again for roughly the same

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reasons what happened in nineteen The reason that we had

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nineteen twenty nine is because in nineteen twenty nine, there's

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for those that don't know, there was a cataclysmic financial crash,

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a right like massive that was global. It was the

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very first global I can't call it mark the crash

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because it was an entire economic crash. It wasn't just

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like the stock market. It affected all aspects of socio

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political economy, right like you know from It was Wall

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Street and Main Street, and it went all the way

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around the world really fast because at that point in time,

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the reserve currency or the currency of trade was the

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pound sterling. And in World War One, we lent our banks,

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lent the Brits a tremendous amount of money at the

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behest and guarantee of Woodrow Wilson and his administration. Nobody.

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Everyone says like the bankers pushed them into Some bankers, yes,

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but US bankers not so much. Because at the time,

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like Germany was kicking people's assets. So once the Rothchilds

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were tapped out and they had to go to America

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for capital, like they're good and well getting their ass beat.

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So who the fuck wants to lend to a like,

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would you lend a bunch of money to the Ukrainian

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government right now?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Now, not at all. The only way that like JP

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Morgan is extending a huge line of credit is if

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you know the goat, like the you know, pharmaceutically animated

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corpse of Joe Biden, you know, holds a gun to

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his head. That's the only way that's happening, because it's

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just happening the other way. So obviously, the Brits did

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not pull out of World War One, okay, and the

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reparations money that they tried to get from Germany couldn't

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come in fast enough to cover the interest on all

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the sovereign debt, and the pound blew up and England defaulted,

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and a lot of our banks defaulted because basically the

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Brits just stipped everybody, and you had the Great Crash

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of nineteen twenty nine, which basically ended the American Golden Age.

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So it was actually the sins of World War One

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coming home to roost that ended America's Golden age. Everyone says, oh,

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the stock market was just unrealistically high. It kept on

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going up and up and up. Yeah, as Mark Andriesen

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on Joe Rogan or any other one of his appearances

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will tell you like, yeah, innovation does that innovation creates

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value out of nothing. Sorry Libertarians and Austrians, right, Like,

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an economy is not a thing that lives in a vacuum.

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And for it to exist in a vacuum, which it

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does have to under the tenets of really either Keynesian

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or Austrian economics. The only room inside this vacuum bubble

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is for buyers and sellers making entirely rational decisions for

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the purpose of getting a the highest price and be

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the most value depending on what side of the transaction

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you're on. And these are the only people that are

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allowed inside this vacuum. And that's not real. Do we

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think that? What do you think, Pete? What would you

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say influences oil markets today more the rational decisions of

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buyers and sellers, right, Going about price discovery in a

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free market or the geostrategic needs of Vladimir Putin, Well.

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Speaker 1: I would assume the geostrategic needs of Ladimir Putin. But

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then you look at the price of oil in the

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last six months to a year and you're like, why

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is it stayed pegged somewhere?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the pegged, right, that's that's that's a choice word

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in the beginning of the Ukraine War. Enough take a tangent.

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But for those of you that don't remember Janet Yellen, uh,

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you know what I mean, like when on tour, like

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you know, when they don't really let that troll on

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TV mud for good reason, for good reason. She is horrific.

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She's a horrific human being. And that's just not that's

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not because any ethnic animosity I may have, or my

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preference to Anglo Saxon Ubermensch and old stock American Jerome Powell,

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but just because she is very dumb. Her PhD thesis,

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she's an academic and has never actually worked in the

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real world, was on labor theory of economics. Labor theory

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of economics is also known as literal Marxism, not like

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the pretend Jane Loss Lindsay kind or the pretend Boomer conkind,

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but actual kind. Her husband is the world's foremost Marxist economist.

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If such a fucking ludicrous thing could exist out of Berkeley,

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I believe, or Stanford, I can't remember which, But she

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tried to impose a eighty dollars oil price gap to

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stick it to Putin, and the Europeans like, yeah, it's

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a good idea, We're going to do a price gap.

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And then people in the market were like, this is

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a terrible idea. This is really, really dumb. You should

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never ever ever talk about this again and never talk

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in public again, and then just kind of disappeared. But

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yet we have what is Russia. Russia's like, what eighteen

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percent of global production? No, I think it's more than that, right,

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it's gotta be more than that oil. Yeah, I'm thinking

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like oil, and we'd have to include that gas, right,

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but yeah, it's it's massive. It's at least twenty percent

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of the market percentage. Sorry guys going on my keyboard, Wow.

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Speaker 1: Are you getting twelve twenty global oil?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve percent of global oil, twenty one percent of

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global energy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's incredible. Well that's another reason why the

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United States can put a put sanctions on them, even

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blow up their pipeline, and they're still fine. I mean

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the Rubles, the rubles crashing now, and people think that

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that's like, oh, we're taking them out. How many times?

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Is how many times we have crashes here, come on,

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stop it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Ruble crash, I mean it was bound

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to happen, just like you know, that's like everyone's like, oh,

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bitcoin's crashing now as it goes from like one hundred

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to ninety, Like they forget the up from eight thousand

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part which was like five years ago. Yeah, but you know,

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oil makes up forty five percent of the Russian Russian

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federal budget, so oil redues, so they thought that they could,

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you know, do this, But so we're going to sanction

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the largest oil one of the largest single oil producers

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in the world, and the largest single one of the

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largest single oil producers in the world is currently at

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war with its neighbor, and the pipeline infrastructure runs through

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that neighbor. But yet oil doesn't move. And then what

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happens next is last year we have war in the

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Middle East, where I don't know, I'd say fifty percent

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of global energy comes from. So that's some total of

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what we're at. Seventy percent of global energy production in

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those two nations, in those two areas.

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Speaker 1: And only because we haven't opened it up here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but so seventy percent of the world's oil market

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is technically on fire, right, and oils and they're and

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they're blowing up pipelines and they are you know, downing

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oil tankers with drones. So we haven't seen oil move

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past seventy This defies all credibility. Like this is yeah,

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the oil market is rigged, but rigging something is expensive.

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It's really expensive, and it's a good microcosm for what

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Like the one thing like l Loongo talks about with

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the euro dollar system is that he doesn't talk about

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what it does and why it's so pernicious, which I

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think is very important. So basically what the Europeans and

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this is why I'm actually not upset that their pipeline

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uploaded up. Fuck them. You don't get America paying for

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your entire national defense and you go buy oil from

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someone else. Buying our energy is the least they should

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be doing. I'm sorry, euro Bros, but it's true, Like

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you can't even contribute two percent of your GDP. In fact,

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for the large portion of the history, less than one percent.

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And at the same time, you're basically expecting us to

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foot the bill for the largest single line item budget

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item on the federal government, and it should be the

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largest single line item on any government. You expect us

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to pay for that, and then you also want to

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just buy oil from the person that we are paying

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to defend you from. It wasn't for us, like Russia

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could just take you. It's I am. I know it's

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an unpopular take, but when you put it next to

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the fact that, yes, America blew up the pipeline, where

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the Brits actually blew up the pipeline and America didn't

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really care that they did because fuck them. So in

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the rare instance, I kind of agree with James Joe Biden,

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Donald Trump, and Victoria Newland, but yeah, America didn't blow

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up that pipeline. Sorry, bro, I know there's tons of

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euro guys that'll tell you about how it had to

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be America, And I'm sorry for the tangent, Pete. But

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the very first person, yeah, the very first person to

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announce the the detonation of the nerd Stream pipeline, who

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is he? It was on Twitter, the Polish Secretary of Defense.

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He posted a picture of the gas bubbling up from

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the C floor and it said thank you America. What

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a fucking odd thing to say, right, I why would

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you say that? How would you say that publicly? Like, okay,

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let's say America did do it and a defense minister

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of a NATO country takes to social media to rat

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out the United States to the world, What did we

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do to Julie Massange? What do we try to do

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to Snowden? And you're gonna like fucking breathe oxygen in

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a sphere of US control, Like you shouldn't be drawing breath.

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I mean that made absolutely no sense to me, all right,

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Like nobody that fucking airs out US secrets like that,

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especially secrets of US misdeeds, will continue to draw breath.

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If the US has anything to say about it.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, you can get away with doing stuff

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like yeah, you know you can get away with doing

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stuff like that if Joe Biden as president. It's the

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same way you can get away with invading another country,

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you know, basically knowing it's going to draw US into

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it if you know that the people there's no one

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in charge.

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Speaker 2: Yes, possibly, yeah, I can totally agree with that. I

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can totally agree with that. But this Polish defense minister

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is a very interesting human being, besides being married to

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one an apple Bam. I thought you'd like that he is,

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and this will be breaking news on the Peak Quanona Show,

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because I don't think I've heard anybody else say this,

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at least in our spheres. So this Polish defense minister

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is and nobody, an absolute nobody. He's a poor, unimpressive,

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unacademically gifted on collegial sports, gifted human being, a really

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mediocre person. But somehow this poor Polish nobody gets a

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full ride to Oxford. Strange. It gets stranger while at Oxford.

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His first year at Oxford, he gets invited to join

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the Bullingdon Club. Do you know what the Bullingden Club.

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Speaker 1: Is, Pete, No, that I do not know.

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Speaker 2: The Bullingdon Club is like Scull and Bones if it

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was somehow more secret and more exclusive, because it is

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both of those things. I believe it's five members a year,

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so four years. At any moment time, there's twenty members,

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and you have to be which call it them. Your

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invitation has to basically be like chaired by one person

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or sponsored by one person, and then agreed on by

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all all every other member of every including not just

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the freshman class but all the other members, but the

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class of people, so that it would be like those other

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five guys. The other four guys are going to really

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be the determining factor of you know who the next

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person is going to be in their great year? Do

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you know who that person was that that vouched and

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sponsored him? Because it's and it's not something you can

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apply for, it's something that you have to be just

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picked right. One young Boris Johnson. H Who else was

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in the Bollingdon Club, the freshman year Bolingdon Club, Well,

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that would be one David Cameron, current Secretary of Defense

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or whatever their equivalent of Secretary of Defenses. I can't remember.

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There's one other one I can't remember. Some of their

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famous politocrat in Britain was the third one, and magic

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number four was Lord Natty Rothschild. Natty Rothschild owns that

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other pipeline that went online the exact same day that

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Nordstream blew up. Probably didn't nobody probably heard about it.

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It's a big pipeline, but I mean the news kind

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of gets drawn, you know, drowned out by you know,

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a pipeline being exploded by a foreign actor, and it

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kind of takes all the air out of the room.

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But it runs from Norway to Poland. It's one of

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the umbrella companies of the same group that does Genie Energy.

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You may have heard of Genie Energy.

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Speaker 1: I think we talked about Genie Energy. It's a roth

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child they there. I think they're Golan Heights. I think

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they they control the oil production and on the Golan Heights.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they tried to also propose south stream. They

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also have Dick Cheney on the board. Interesting and Donny

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rum and the late great Donnie Rumsfeld. Yeah, they were

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a big deal in Iraq War days. But anyways, these

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they were trying to do something called south stream. So basically,

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the US didn't go into Iraq for oil, and it

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didn't go to Iraq for Israel. It went to Iraq

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for Israel and oil for Israel. There we go. But

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all the all of the ship libs at the time

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were correct that it was blood for oil, just not

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oil for US. US net oil imports decreased after the

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Iraq War. But a country that has no natural resources

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of any kind outside of human capital, but that is arguable,

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it is of arguable value. Suddenly is the seventh largest

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energy exporter. Israel doesn't have any natural gas or oil

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under its ground. The Holy Land is not that holy

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when it comes to energy independence. But Iraqi kurdistand right

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next door does. And that's who was firing his missiles at.

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Remember when we invaded Yep, he was supposedly mad at

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the Katari's right or sorry the was it Qatar? K kuwaitis?

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How come we didn't fire any of those missiles scud

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missiles into Kuwait? Was it really Kuwait that was stealing

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his oil? I don't know, but I know after he

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was thrown out of power, the country that he fired

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missiles at stole all his oil and now exports it.

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They have a thriving energy industry now seventh largest in

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the world. Amazing, completely non existent. Anyways, it's head back.

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Speaker 1: We're we're gonna have to get back to the twenties

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at some point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's that I'm back to America. First committee, So,

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speaking of Skull and Bones, it was founded at Yale

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Law School. One of the men that were it was

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a part of it. Just to get you an idea

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of who made up these fine gentlemen. You had a

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young Gerald Ford and a one Potter Stewart, future Supreme

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Court judge, and the main policy point was to keep

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America out of war in Europe. The founding of the

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America First Committee happened after the defeat, largely on the

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continent of the other European powers. Right, so the Battle

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of Britain England getting its ask kicked in the air

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had already been underway for two months. At this point,

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lend Lease had just been announced and everybody started to

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see the setup. Right, everybody tries to say that Charles

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Limberg was a Nazi sympathizer. I would say he's a

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Nazi respector only because of having toured there and seeing

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their capabilities, right as in like the same way I

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respect Russia. I don't love Russia. I'm not sympathetic to Russia,

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but they have more nukes than we do, and apparently,

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as of like last month, they have new ways of

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delivering those missiles or sorry, those warheads. So I respect

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their military capability. And that's basically what Lindberg that was

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his opinion as well. But what about Stormy. But what

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about the pictures, the pictures of mister Charles Lindberg with

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Hermann Gurring and he was awarded the uh what is it?

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The Iron Cross? I can't remember the metal Thomas seven

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seven seven somewhere is chimping at me. I'm sorry, Thomas,

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keep going.

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Speaker 1: I'll look it up.

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Speaker 2: But why was he in there? Why was he in Germany?

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Because he was living in Britain at the time after

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his son was murdered suspiciously. His infant son was called

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a crime of the century. All right, well he was.

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He was in Germany at the behest of the State Department, sorry,

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the War Department, and at the explicit invitation of the

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US embassy in Germany for the purpose of gathering intelligence

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on Reich air power and aircraft production. Herman Gerin is

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an aviator. Charles Lindberg was the most famous aviator in

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the entire world times like one hundred. He was like Elvis.

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People got trampled when he landed in Paris, right, there

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were so many people rushing the airfield, which is a

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pretty fucking wide open space, not exactly crowded, and twenty

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people were still crushed to death there. It's estimated a

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really good book to read if you can get your

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hands on it. It is hard to find, but you know,

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let me pull it up. It is written by the

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the Aid de camp of one of America's most famous ambassadors,

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former Governor of Ohio Myron t. Herrick. The book is

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titled Myrone t Herrick, Friend of France and Auto Biographical

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Biography and was written after his death. I mean, this

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guy's uber famous at the time. The French actually put

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him on their currency. I think it's like the five

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franc piece. I can't remember for many years, a whole

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bunch of streets named after him, including the one that

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the US embassy is on currently, and a bunch of

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statues all over the place. Basically, he was the only

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ambassador that didn't run away when the Germans in World

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War One were literally miles outside of Paris. It looked

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like everyone expected the Germans to be to capture Paris

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within a month. I mean, the government had already made

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plans to evacuate, and mister Herrick didn't be like going anywhere.

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So he got a bunch of howitzers and some gatling

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guns and a hundred marines and turned the embassy into

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a fortress and was like, fuck you, I'm not going anywhere.

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And the French loved him for that. He won the

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he was awarded the Legion of Honor whatever. He was

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the guy that received Lindberg in the landing of the

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super famous flight. So his account of what the public

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he was also Lindbergh's. It was the first that those

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two had met, and he would later Lindberg would become

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the political protege of Myron. So if you want to

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know about Myron, or so if you want to know

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about Lindberg and his political worldview and where it came from,

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Myron is probably the place to start. But yeah, this

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was probably the biggest event to happen in Paris in

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one hundred years as far as like individuals coming to

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see a specific event that wasn't you know, like beheading

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or you know, something like that. It was the biggest

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like public spectacle, and he was the most popular man

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in the world. Charles Lenberg was so Herman Gerring like

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jumped out of his chair when the ambassador was like,

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I think I could probably get mister Charles Lindberg to

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come over, because at this point in time, you know,

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the Germans were not doing so bad in the Battle

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of Britain and generally on the continent were viewed as unstoppable.

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So a very famous German fighter pilot gets a chance

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to show off all his new toys and the military

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might of a now strong Germany to the most famous

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pilot in the world. Of course, absolutely right, And so

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what if the War Department, you know, who cares that

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the Americans learn how strong we are or see how

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many planes we crank out? I get to hang out

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with like I don't know if he was Gurring's idol,

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but the excitement like Gurring like it took him home,

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like showed him his house. He was super The pictures

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of Gurring and Lindbergh are very very funny as far

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as like how excited and kid in the candy store

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Gurring looks. It's it's pretty, it's pretty awesome. But he

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was awarded what's called what's the did you find the

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name of that medal?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Service Cross of the German Eagle.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah. Nobody, including Lindbergh and everybody else at that dinner,

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was expecting to get an award. Gurring kind of surprised everybody,

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and of course a bunch of pictures were taken, and

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a very hostile press took this. And I believe because

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his associations and his intimacies with Henry Ford Edison and

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Myron Myron Herrick, Myron Herrick is also a besides the

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governor of Ohio. He was a big wig in Republican

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00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:56,440
Party politics and is the primary reason what is it

474
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,159
Calvin Koolidge was that I'm trying to think. I think

475
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:05,039
it was Calvin Kolich. I think because I'm blanking on this,

476
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:09,519
but was a big reason that the Republicans had won

477
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:13,280
the White House prior to FDR. No. Herbert Hoover there

478
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:22,960
we go. Fuck Jesus. Also the same man who gave

479
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:32,760
FDR his start in politics and recounted often how it

480
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,880
was the greatest mistake of his life. But he made

481
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,880
the deal, which you'll find in that book to give

482
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:48,239
a position to a young Francis Dilano Roosevelt at the

483
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:51,960
was it the under Secretary of the Navy. It wasn't

484
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,079
Secretary of the Navy. He was the guy right below it,

485
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,119
second in charge of the Navy at the time of

486
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:05,880
World War One, And in his memoirs he says specifically

487
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:11,119
he made he was forced to make the deal, all right,

488
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:20,039
to get Herbert Hoover in right at the caveat of

489
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:27,760
appointing FDR who a vehement Democrat at that point and

490
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,639
an insane appointment for a Republican administration to make. But

491
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,400
he said that was the deal that he had to

492
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:45,840
make with mister Bernard Baruch. He says, uh, he says,

493
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:51,920
the I can't remember what he what, what words he used,

494
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,920
but a lot of derogatory words we probably shouldn't shouldn't

495
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,400
say on YouTube if this has gone on YouTube. But anyways, Uh,

496
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:06,840
mister Iron was not a fan. But basically he Lindberg's

497
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,519
associations had raised a lot of eyebrows of a certain group.

498
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:17,480
And when that photo with Gurring was taken the very

499
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:24,800
next week, it was on the front page of the

500
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:32,280
New York Times, calling him a Nazi sympathizer, right saying

501
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,880
he was going there because he loved the Nazis so much,

502
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,559
And that is the narrative to this day in the

503
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:46,559
entire time he was asked to go there by his country.

504
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,119
He would later go on to serve his country several

505
00:41:53,199 --> 00:42:00,880
more times, except under far riskier circumstances. Also, while a

506
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,360
majority of the country's media was decrying him as a

507
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:12,840
trader and a Nazi, neither of those allegations. The fact

508
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,480
that they were coming from the halls of power and

509
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,800
literally out of the mouth of the President of the

510
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,280
United States of America. I was thinking about this the

511
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:31,320
other day, right, if Joe Biden made a point to

512
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,760
where he was every time he got on the radio

513
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:40,039
or the television, I was talking about, how much of

514
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:45,480
a trader in a scumbag, Stormy Waters is if all

515
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:48,199
the newspapers in America were calling me a trader in

516
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:57,840
a scumbag, and this idiot president decides to stumble us

517
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:03,679
into on purpose or in ignorance, stumble us into war

518
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:10,079
with Russia, a war that was easily avoidable, and a

519
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:14,800
war that eighty percent of the country by far more now,

520
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,000
but let's just say eighty percent of the country, because

521
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,559
that number is going to come back in a little bit,

522
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,880
eighty percent of the country oppose, right, So a war

523
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,079
that the American people don't want, and a war that

524
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:37,119
was a war of choice for a small, privileged, powerful

525
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:41,079
group of people in the American government, the deep state,

526
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:43,719
whatever you want, whatever term you want to use, or

527
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,719
through whatever lens you want to use. Right, it is

528
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:56,079
undeniable that the conflict we find ourselves in with the

529
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:01,000
ancient Russian people and the country that is over a

530
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:06,519
thousand years old, is one entirely by choice. And a

531
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,840
choice that was not made by the people that would

532
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,880
end up fighting it. But let's just say that happened,

533
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,320
and Joe Biden at the same time telling America and

534
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:26,000
all the newspapers telling America that Stormy Waters is a traitor.

535
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:55,679
Would I have the the commitment to my nation and

536
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:02,920
what detonation is currently and what it once was. If

537
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:16,400
I would have the decent, calmness of soul too basically

538
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:21,000
not be moved by any of any of the negative

539
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:27,719
comments being made by the president or the media, and

540
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:33,079
I would serve my country in a war that I hated,

541
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,079
an a war that I didn't support, and an a

542
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:42,639
war that most of America didn't support, including the men

543
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:50,159
fighting it. Would I have the courage and temerity to

544
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,119
do that. I don't know if I would, but he did.

545
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,400
And that's the type of American you're top to hate.

546
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:11,000
Just typing Charles Lindberg into YouTube or into your podcatcher

547
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:16,079
of choice, and you will see hundreds, literally hundreds of

548
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:27,599
resentful little people that have never sacrificed anything in their life,

549
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:40,639
know no hardship, suffered, none telling us how much of

550
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,039
a Nazi, how much of an anti Semite, how much

551
00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:47,440
of a horrible person this man is. And what's even

552
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:56,440
funnier is that his service was secret, right, as in,

553
00:46:56,559 --> 00:47:01,079
he would get no credit, no newspaper or whatever report

554
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,079
that Charles Lindberg is in fact not a trader and

555
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:12,119
in fact fighting for America in a warplane as we speak.

556
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:16,239
He's in fact not a trader. Nobody was ever going

557
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,679
to know that, and he knew that at the time,

558
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,840
So it's not like he was doing it to try

559
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,119
and get out of the allegations of being called a trader.

560
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:34,880
He was doing it again, here's that word that we

561
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:40,400
don't see anymore. He was doing it because he felt

562
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,599
the sense of duty. His nation was at war, so

563
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,679
therefore he was going to fight its enemies, whether he

564
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,800
got credit for it or not, no matter what the

565
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,199
media said about him, no matter what the fucking President

566
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,519
of the United States in the White House at the

567
00:47:53,679 --> 00:48:01,199
time said about him. So it was published twenty five

568
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:07,760
years after he left, or basically after the war was over,

569
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,480
because that's about the amount of time that he could

570
00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:16,880
get in trouble for releasing classified information, which you know

571
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:20,320
at the time that he was doing it his combat

572
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:26,079
missions into Japan, and we don't know but there is

573
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,360
a lot of suspicion that he took part in the

574
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,920
Doolittle raids. But what we do know is that this

575
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:39,760
man flew one hundred and eighty six combat hours in

576
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,519
the Pacific. That is about three times as much as

577
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:50,519
a typical combat airman would see over their tour of duty.

578
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,960
And nobody was going to know about it. Nobody was

579
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,480
going to he was He wasn't going to come home

580
00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,280
and no longer be called a trader. He was going

581
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,840
to come home and still be called the trader, and

582
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,639
no one would know what he did or that he

583
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,239
in fact wasn't a trader. It was illegal, against the

584
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,360
law for him to tell anybody what he did, and

585
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,519
he still did it. And I don't know when I

586
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:19,320
think about that feat, I don't know if I would

587
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,519
be that brave. I don't know about you.

588
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a difficult choice to make, especially

589
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:34,000
when you when you look at the way they they

590
00:49:34,119 --> 00:49:37,199
treat people and the way they hound people. And even

591
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,960
back then, I mean McCarthy, McCarthy was already a drunk,

592
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,920
you know, when all the hearings started and everything. But

593
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,960
you know, what they did to him just drove him

594
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,480
to drove it and drove him to drink that much more,

595
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,800
you know, So it's not you know, people have a

596
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,519
tendency to believe because we're in this information age and

597
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:01,480
things can get out over the internet and it split

598
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:04,679
second that you know, back then it would be harder

599
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,559
to slender someone. Well, not when everybody's reading the newspaper,

600
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,519
and not when the newspapers are you know, all printing

601
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:13,719
the same thing. Yep, and they're controlled and they're being

602
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,320
told what's what's a print? Yeah?

603
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: For the radio.

604
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:24,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, they drove people. They they drove people to become

605
00:50:24,599 --> 00:50:26,760
pariah's is just as much as they do it.

606
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,159
Speaker 2: Nowadays, even more so because at least on the Internet

607
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,480
you can post and you could say no, this is

608
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,159
not true at least.

609
00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, But we also had a more We also had

610
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,400
a more moral society back then, so people leapt to

611
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,239
their morality a lot quicker, and they took their morality

612
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,679
a lot more seriously. So if they thought somebody was

613
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,400
treeson us or something like that, and that meant something

614
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,079
to them, it's not thrown around, you know like we

615
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:54,840
like most people do today.

616
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean Tucker Carlson. It's called the trader,

617
00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:01,559
I mean Donald, We've thought the president of the United

618
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:05,800
States was a trader and an active Russian spot. I mean, like,

619
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:08,119
they just throw these words around like they don't mean anything,

620
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:10,760
but back then you were one hundred percent right. These

621
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:17,519
words meant things, which makes them all that more pernicious

622
00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:23,480
about how they were being thrown around because the progressive

623
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:29,000
I hate to even call it the fucking New Deal, right,

624
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:33,000
or the New Deal regime, the New Deal administration, right,

625
00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:38,079
because that's not what the men at the time fighting

626
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:42,679
what FDR was doing to the country thought. And the

627
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,960
last episode I did with you, Pete, we read some

628
00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:50,400
of the speeches that were given by the head of

629
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:57,920
the Democratic Party and former presidential candidate Al Smith and

630
00:51:58,039 --> 00:52:00,679
what he thought the New Deal was. And he had

631
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,800
just gotten FDR elected, so it obviously wasn't going Basically

632
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,159
what he was told was going to happen in the

633
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,960
FDR administration did not happen if something else happened instead.

634
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,840
So like I hate to even call it the New

635
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:22,519
Deal regime, because the men at the time saw it

636
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:29,800
as communism being driven by a foreign group of people,

637
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:37,760
both within and without and from without. So the entire

638
00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:46,360
New Deal regime came kind of crashing down on the

639
00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:49,079
on him and pretty much all of the other men

640
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:58,719
that stood up to it. And now, like, none of

641
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,199
the hell that we live in day would be possible

642
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,800
if it wasn't for this, And you could say like,

643
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,840
oh yeah, you know there were still subversives and you know,

644
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:12,039
oh yeah, this group has been in here doing all

645
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:13,840
this other bad stuff for a very long time. Look

646
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,480
at the Schofield Bible, but nothing nothing like the fucking

647
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:22,440
New Deal. It's fundamental. It was a it was a

648
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:27,320
revolution no different than seventeen seventy six, as it fundamentally

649
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:33,440
changed the governance structure and the relationship the dialogue between

650
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,119
American citizen and his government forever. And I hate to

651
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:41,559
bring up Mark Andresen again, but he's a really smart guy.

652
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:47,320
I h I respect that guy a lot. But I

653
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,599
don't think anybody, even in our spheres that know how

654
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:53,519
pernicious the regime has I don't think. I think what

655
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:55,719
he said on that Joe Rogan interview came as a

656
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,280
surprise to most people. It came as a surprise to me.

657
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,480
And I fucking think about the shit every day. I'm

658
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:08,440
pretty smart, Like the level of persecution at like a

659
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:14,039
granular level was just shocking to me. And like the

660
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:20,239
the fact that like Elizabeth Warren has her own attack

661
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,719
agency that not only isn't in the constitution anywhere, but

662
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,360
isn't accountable to anybody because she's a senator, she has

663
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,719
no authority to have an agency, but she does so.

664
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,119
Like the agency isn't supposed to exist. You can't sue it,

665
00:54:40,679 --> 00:54:45,800
and you certainly can't stop it. You can't like call

666
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,079
up a number and talk to a manager that like

667
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,320
there's no you're just being it may as well being

668
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:57,719
It may as well be persecution from a demonic entity. Right.

669
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:03,280
It's just know this persecution that is happening everywhere, all

670
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,320
at once, and you can't figure out where it's coming from.

671
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,079
There's no way to put your finger on it, to

672
00:55:10,159 --> 00:55:13,920
get a hold of what's you know, what's afflicting you.

673
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:21,800
There's no you know, command structure that you can air

674
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:29,360
your grievances with. It's just insane. And all this came

675
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,360
from the New Deal. And I don't think he, I

676
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,800
don't think we. I think we've become a little bit

677
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:47,559
hyper focused on a specific, a specific aspect of the regime,

678
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,239
and we kind of miss We sometimes missed the meta

679
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,679
you know of it all right, like the thing in

680
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:05,800
its entirety. But anyways, if it wasn't, if it was

681
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,039
anybody else besides Charles Lindberg, I think they would have

682
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:16,400
been sunk because his popularity, like I said, was hard

683
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:23,199
to describe or hard to contextualize in modern times anyways,

684
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,599
because like, yeah, there's famous people, but there's also so

685
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,559
many famous people and people that are famous in all

686
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:33,760
these different ways, and there's all these really like different niches.

687
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,559
But like Pete to what you were talking about about,

688
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:40,880
how there really was only newspaper and radio, and if

689
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:48,400
you controlled those things, you literally controlled the entire public dialogue. Right.

690
00:56:48,519 --> 00:56:52,880
No one was you know, getting finding new bands on SoundCloud.

691
00:56:54,800 --> 00:57:01,639
The only music you were exposed to, the music that

692
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,760
was shown to you, the only news that you were

693
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:14,480
exposed to. Your whole conceptual your whole conceptual reality, all right,

694
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:19,559
and this is this is public consensus. Reality was dictated

695
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:25,480
through two business verticals, radio and print media. That's it.

696
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:34,239
You had total paradigm control, at least they thought. So,

697
00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:40,480
you know, when someone becomes very well known like in

698
00:57:40,639 --> 00:57:44,840
those days, like it was kind of similar in the

699
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,920
sixties kind of, but there was no like thriving subcultures

700
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,000
or anything like that. So if you think of how

701
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:56,880
popular the Beatles were, Charles Lindberg was more popular.

702
00:57:58,719 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: I think I think I a better maybe a stronger astronauts.

703
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:12,000
Oh yes, like like Neil Armstrong, yeah, yes, as Aldron, Yeah.

704
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah. These So these were celebrities and

705
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,119
national heroes at the same time as well as international

706
00:58:20,199 --> 00:58:24,920
sensations like and being an astronaut was like quite literally

707
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,360
like being in the Beatles, like you were that like

708
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:32,400
you were getting pussy that easy. And if if the

709
00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:36,519
if the Astronauts happened to have uh you know, been

710
00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:39,280
on stage a lot, which they luckily they hadn't, I'm

711
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,320
sure panties would have been thrown at them as well.

712
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:51,360
But yeah, so luckily Charles Lindberg was popular. He had

713
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:59,960
a voice, and he could he had really good advice.

714
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:06,280
So the way he spoke was very much the way

715
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:12,760
Donald Trump speaks. Also, in that book by Ambassador mister Myron,

716
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:20,599
he talks about like he heard Charles's speech and was

717
00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:24,679
like it was so natural that it was like he

718
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:30,079
was just he was basically just saying the whatever was

719
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:32,199
on his mind like as it came into his mind,

720
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:37,360
like very very much like Donald Trump. And Myron recounts

721
00:59:37,639 --> 00:59:42,960
how he's like to the average you know, uninitiated observer,

722
00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:49,599
what he's doing looks very very easy. But to an

723
00:59:49,679 --> 00:59:58,280
experience public speaker or rhetorician, like he was like a prodigy,

724
00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:01,559
was Charles Limberry Like you know, it wasn't taking like

725
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,960
public speaking class like he just was a fucking natural,

726
01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:13,440
very much like Trump is. And he spoke in a

727
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:20,159
I urge everyone to listen to I know, kind of

728
01:00:20,239 --> 01:00:26,119
like the Hitler AI translation speeches are going viral, which

729
01:00:26,159 --> 01:00:31,239
is great. I think that's awesome because if everybody, if anybody,

730
01:00:32,199 --> 01:00:41,000
still thinks that national socialism was about, you know, just

731
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:48,400
hating Jews or you know, global conquest or any of

732
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:56,880
the you know, American secular state religion belief structures, the

733
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:07,760
second you hear know Adolph Hitler speaking and what he's

734
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,079
speaking about, all that goes away immediately. Like if you

735
01:01:12,199 --> 01:01:17,119
replace the word Germany, that could have been any America,

736
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,400
like that could have come out of Donald Trump's mouth. Well,

737
01:01:21,519 --> 01:01:24,079
not so much Donald Trump, because he he seems to

738
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:29,880
like or be comfortable with our media environment, right probably

739
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,199
because he's so good at playing them for fools, like

740
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,519
he literally fucking lives not just lives in their head,

741
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:41,760
rent free, like he owns them, like they're they're so

742
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:49,760
reactive to him. He basically puppeteers them. But outside of

743
01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:55,360
outside of that, all of the other aspects of the NSDAPS,

744
01:01:56,119 --> 01:01:59,840
you know, policy positions, it's I think it's it's twenty planks.

745
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,239
You would want any US politician to be saying the

746
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,679
exact same thing, and you're like, oh, maybe this was

747
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:17,320
about something different. I urge everyone to look up the

748
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:22,519
uh it's called the des Moines, Iowa speech, right, so

749
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:28,480
Charles Lindbird on September the eleventh, nineteen forty one in

750
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:33,039
Des Moines, Iowa is a speech I'm gonna I forgot.

751
01:02:33,239 --> 01:02:35,880
I can't because I'm I'm in the time out box.

752
01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:41,440
I would post it to Twitter, but when I'm allowed

753
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,480
back on Twitter, I will I will do that. Or

754
01:02:45,719 --> 01:02:49,960
anybody that's listening, any of the early listeners, thank you

755
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:53,400
for you know, supporting one of the best guys in

756
01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:56,599
our sphere with your money. Like the thing that matter

757
01:02:56,679 --> 01:03:00,679
is mister Pequinona's But yeah, if you get access to

758
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,320
this early and you know it comes out quickly. Just

759
01:03:03,559 --> 01:03:07,639
just start dropping that speech on your timeline. People need

760
01:03:07,719 --> 01:03:13,079
to hear it. It's that good, it really is. And

761
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,039
that'll give you a really good idea about what America

762
01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:22,280
First was about. And I'll leave some stuff out so

763
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,800
the man himself can tell you because I think it'll

764
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:28,920
be better that way. But what he did say what

765
01:03:29,199 --> 01:03:35,000
caused outright insanity And if the press hated him before,

766
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:39,639
but again, so we say the press hated him and

767
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:45,320
FDR hated him were vehemently denouncing him. It was very

768
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,840
much like a Donald Trump phenomena where all of the

769
01:03:48,039 --> 01:03:52,960
consensus media and consensus policy you know people, and the

770
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,679
you know, important people all one hundred percent agree that

771
01:03:56,719 --> 01:03:58,639
Donald Trump is the worst and the kind of you know,

772
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,079
the vast already of the country is like, yeah, we

773
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:05,320
don't give a shit, we think he's great. Eighty percent

774
01:04:05,679 --> 01:04:15,920
of America supported America First. It's policy positions of non interventionism, right,

775
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:24,039
So eighty percent of the country was against any type

776
01:04:24,239 --> 01:04:29,880
of military involvement, whether it be logistical support, arms support,

777
01:04:32,159 --> 01:04:38,119
and most of all, you know, troops on the ground.

778
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:44,840
Eighty percent of the country was isolationists. They say isolations

779
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,960
like it's a bad thing, like these bad isolationists. Yeah. Sorry,

780
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:52,039
access to my nation's wealth isn't a fucking human right.

781
01:04:55,199 --> 01:04:59,519
Access to my prosperity and the most valuable things in

782
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:13,079
my name, which are farmers boys in Iowa, bricklayers kids

783
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:22,000
in New England, right, and farmers sons in the South,

784
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:42,000
and some electricians kid on the West coast. That's America's

785
01:05:42,039 --> 01:05:46,199
most valuable resource, and access to it is not a

786
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,920
human right. Isolationism is probably the most noble thing that

787
01:05:50,960 --> 01:06:01,599
we can do, because, frankly, no other nation has the

788
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:10,320
right to American blood. I don't care if your nation

789
01:06:10,639 --> 01:06:14,639
has the right to exist or whatever. I don't care.

790
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:19,039
You're not my people. I don't give a shit about you.

791
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:26,679
Speaker 1: Well, it also it also shows respect for other people's cultures.

792
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,760
We're not going to walk with you. Yes, you get

793
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,840
to have you get to have your culture. You get

794
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,320
to have whatever you have. Don't fuck with us, you know,

795
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,239
if you want to, if there's something you want to trade,

796
01:06:38,599 --> 01:06:42,880
we'll have a talk. If not, you know, God bless,

797
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:48,719
don't fuck with us. Yeah, but if you But apparently,

798
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:53,079
if they move here illegally and then they subvert the nation,

799
01:06:53,519 --> 01:06:58,760
they subvert the culture, they subvert the government, they subvert everything. Well,

800
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,159
that's okay, and.

801
01:07:00,239 --> 01:07:05,599
Speaker 2: They don't fight. No, ninety eight percent of combat arms

802
01:07:08,159 --> 01:07:13,199
just happens to be one ethnic demographic. Ninety six percent

803
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:19,280
of combat arms moss sorry, ninety one percent like that,

804
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,000
And the special forces, I think it's eighty percent high eighties.

805
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:32,119
In the regular the broader, Marine Corps and army, it's

806
01:07:32,159 --> 01:07:36,639
white boys. It's white American boys. That's who does the fighting.

807
01:07:37,679 --> 01:07:41,000
So I don't care how smart your Indian friend is.

808
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:49,079
I don't care how nice your Venezuelan housekeeper is. I

809
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:53,400
don't give a fuck. I don't care if they came

810
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,119
here legally. I don't care if they flew here on

811
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:06,840
wings they grew on their backs. Don't fucking care because

812
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:15,400
they don't fight, and who fights, well, patriots fight, So

813
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:18,239
I guess they didn't assimilate, did they. I guess they

814
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:26,359
really don't share our values, do they, Because they don't fight.

815
01:08:28,239 --> 01:08:32,399
They won't fight for those values, so therefore they don't

816
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:37,119
have them. Because you only believe something if you're willing

817
01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:42,119
to die for it. Anything else is a fucking hobby.

818
01:08:45,399 --> 01:08:49,600
And these people don't fight, so they don't believe, So

819
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:54,680
they don't share your values. They don't share your beliefs.

820
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:59,279
Is via a dramaswami. Is he gonna so you gonna

821
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,800
pick up a gun? Is he gonna go fight? I

822
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:10,880
don't think he is? Is? What was that Chinese motherfucker

823
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:20,600
Alex Wang? Was it? Wang was running for office? Is

824
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,720
he gonna pick up a gun? Is he gonna fight? No,

825
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:33,920
he's not, because he doesn't believe. And nobody has the

826
01:09:34,039 --> 01:09:49,800
right to have young iow with farm boys trying to

827
01:09:50,079 --> 01:09:55,520
stuff their guts back in their stomachs as they scream.

828
01:10:00,039 --> 01:10:04,159
Speaker 1: Because a certain group in nineteen thirty three decided that

829
01:10:04,279 --> 01:10:07,399
they were they didn't even have a country, and they

830
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,520
decided that they were going to declare war upon a nation.

831
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,399
And a nation is not a country. A nation is

832
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:15,920
a people.

833
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a race. Culture is ethnic, culture is genetic.

834
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:29,560
Culture is racial. So they didn't have enough men to fight.

835
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,960
So how are they going to fight this war that

836
01:10:34,119 --> 01:10:42,760
they just declared. They're not exactly a fighting people, as

837
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:48,000
mister Nettan Yahoo is finding out right now because he

838
01:10:48,119 --> 01:10:56,720
can't get a certain subset of those people to fight.

839
01:10:58,520 --> 01:10:59,560
They refused to much.

840
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,239
Speaker 1: There's such a non fighting people. They're such a people

841
01:11:04,359 --> 01:11:08,279
that doesn't fight that in their own country. They have

842
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,600
to have mandatory draft because.

843
01:11:12,399 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 2: No one would join. You can tell who's who believes

844
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:21,199
something by who is willing to die for it. And

845
01:11:21,319 --> 01:11:27,680
October eighth of twenty twenty three, was it one fifth?

846
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:35,039
One fourth of that population went to the airport on

847
01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:38,319
one way flights. So whose land is it?

848
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,159
Speaker 1: You know, It's funny when I when I moved to

849
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,960
after high school, when I moved down to South Florida,

850
01:11:47,359 --> 01:11:49,640
it was described to me. They were like, you know,

851
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,840
it's the one thing about South Florida is you know,

852
01:11:53,119 --> 01:11:56,840
you're going to find out that it's very transient. I

853
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:01,000
didn't really understand what that meant. Yes, you're I dodn't

854
01:12:01,119 --> 01:12:04,079
understand what that meant until years later, when you know,

855
01:12:04,159 --> 01:12:08,520
when I learned other terms like rootless.

856
01:12:09,119 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, or cosmopolitans at literally everyone from Florida's from somewhere else,

857
01:12:14,319 --> 01:12:20,159
particularly South Florida. South Florida's like this, and really anything

858
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:29,079
south of Palm Beach is you know, West tel Aviv

859
01:12:31,279 --> 01:12:40,439
or North Cuba or North Hadi or North Puerto Rico

860
01:12:42,119 --> 01:12:48,560
or or or or Western Russia or now western Ukraine.

861
01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:54,840
The South Florida's is a fucking mess. I can't wait

862
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,199
to get out of here. Luckily, I live in the

863
01:12:57,279 --> 01:13:04,880
last bastion of you know, wasp culture and wasp demographics.

864
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,239
But I'm sure that's about to change sooner or later.

865
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:16,960
The population of Florida has tripled since COVID. It just

866
01:13:17,079 --> 01:13:24,199
it doesn't agree with my cultural soul. Florida is an

867
01:13:24,279 --> 01:13:29,319
ugly place. It really is. I don't fucking like the beach, okay,

868
01:13:29,399 --> 01:13:31,640
so what else is there to look at? Nothing? It's flat,

869
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,560
and it's either swarm South.

870
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, the true South, the Midwest where people actually put

871
01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:45,079
down roots. That's that's what America was, funny.

872
01:13:45,159 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 2: That's the only place where men that fight come from,

873
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:57,439
men that are going to be torn apart by sharks

874
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:04,680
in the middle of the Pacific, slowly bleeding out on

875
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:10,880
a beach that they can't pronounce. In Europe, that's where

876
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:18,920
those men come from, and those are the only men.

877
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:26,479
I find it very interesting that make up our sphere,

878
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,359
not too you know, fire shots or whatever. I'm not

879
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:36,279
going to I am a New Englander. That's where I

880
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:41,680
was born and raised, and my family has been since

881
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:49,680
the sixteen forties. But when it comes to like people

882
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:58,079
in our thing. I find like the people from New

883
01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:04,079
York no offense, that still live there, that choose to

884
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:09,239
live there in the city, are all just wearing our

885
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:15,079
thing around like a skin suit, like a Fendi handbag

886
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:21,840
or you know some louisvuiton Duffel bag where you know,

887
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,359
name a shoe. Right, it's a fashion accessory. It's the

888
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:37,720
it's the edgy, transgressive thing, right, it's fun to talk

889
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:43,520
about doing a racism. They don't believe any of the things,

890
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:49,680
so few of them. I've met a precious few from

891
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:54,680
New York City that believe what I believe, did the

892
01:15:54,760 --> 01:16:02,239
degree that I believe right with the acceptance of the

893
01:16:02,399 --> 01:16:07,000
possibilities and externalities that could one day show up at

894
01:16:07,039 --> 01:16:11,960
my door for believing what I believe. There are a few,

895
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:17,640
and I love them very much. But for the most part,

896
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:26,720
same thing with LA. It's just a fashion accessory. They

897
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,000
like to say the transgressive thing. They like to be

898
01:16:29,159 --> 01:16:34,439
seen as transgressive. But that's it. There will never be

899
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:40,279
anything more than that. That's why you gotta both, you know,

900
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,000
be a right wing edge lord. But at the same time,

901
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,840
don't let anybody say anything mean to our trans friends.

902
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:55,880
Or anyways. I just find it so hilarious that they

903
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:02,960
somehow believe that they take that this is their thing

904
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,640
and where along for the ride. But nothing could be

905
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:18,479
further from the truth. I find it offensive, like to

906
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:24,880
the highest degree, like it. It's the insolence that gets me.

907
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:32,399
But the men that like those, they're no different than

908
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,960
the people that had added to the international terminal at

909
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:44,399
Bengurian Airport October eighth, Right, because if you ever make

910
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:49,239
a move to actualize any of your beliefs, it'll be

911
01:17:49,359 --> 01:17:53,640
people like that that stop you. It'll be people like

912
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:58,279
that that stab you in the back, because if you

913
01:17:58,399 --> 01:18:03,640
ever seek to make it a real world reality, it's

914
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:09,119
no longer fun, it's no longer transgressive, it's no longer

915
01:18:09,239 --> 01:18:16,960
pretend you're ruining it is what you're doing by making

916
01:18:17,359 --> 01:18:22,399
any steps towards actualizing any of the things that we

917
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:28,199
believe that they say they believe. But it seems that

918
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:41,640
when we make moves towards bringing or convictions into or

919
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:49,000
concrete reality, they screech and holler like I am tearing

920
01:18:49,159 --> 01:18:56,960
up that Fendi handbag or I am pouring bleach over

921
01:18:57,039 --> 01:19:04,960
that Chanelle sweater, whatever, because I'm ruining their fancy fashion accessory.

922
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:12,359
They wear our heritage and our identity like it is

923
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:18,079
a fancy dress. And I say dress because turns out

924
01:19:19,119 --> 01:19:25,520
most of you fucking faggots like to wear them, or

925
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:33,439
like boys that wear them. Nothing right wing about you.

926
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:40,800
You don't believe anything. It certainly wouldn't die for anything,

927
01:19:45,359 --> 01:19:48,119
not like those men in the Spanish Civil War, did

928
01:19:50,239 --> 01:19:52,760
not like those men in the Battle of Berlin did.

929
01:19:54,680 --> 01:20:00,960
Both of them knew their situation was hopeless in the

930
01:20:01,039 --> 01:20:03,880
Battle of Berlin, not only in their situation, but their

931
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,439
cause and their nation was lost, and they still fought.

932
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:19,880
And you guys could vetch whenever we actualize any right

933
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:24,119
wing beliefs outside of the precious view. But I think

934
01:20:24,319 --> 01:20:31,840
we have a problem of people wearing our beliefs as

935
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,159
fashion accessories. And I think that's something that we're teething

936
01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:37,079
we're dealing with right now. I think it's a teething

937
01:20:37,119 --> 01:20:38,600
pain that we're going to have to go through.

938
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,319
Speaker 1: You know, you really can see, like you mentioned the

939
01:20:46,359 --> 01:20:48,600
Spanish Civil War, and you also mentioned is.

940
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 2: It almost brought me to tears when you're reading it, Pete.

941
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it brought me to tears every time I

942
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:02,920
read that the the when you look at how the

943
01:21:03,039 --> 01:21:07,000
nationalists handled the Spanish Civil War, so they had it

944
01:21:07,399 --> 01:21:10,319
they I mean, it wasn't it wasn't even like they

945
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:15,000
had foreign invaders, I mean the technically, but it was

946
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,880
a government they had they had elected, a government was

947
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:24,399
elected that decided that they were going to this came

948
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,960
out later kill half the country, that they were going

949
01:21:28,039 --> 01:21:30,760
to kill half the people in the country, because.

950
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 2: I never realized that. I'd never known that.

951
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, their goal was to kill fifty percent of the

952
01:21:36,279 --> 01:21:40,960
Catholics of the country. So what they When you look

953
01:21:41,039 --> 01:21:43,600
at that and you know and you know that the

954
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,399
only people that fled north to France were the infirmed

955
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,720
and the old getting out of the way of war,

956
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,960
and that they stayed there and fought. It really goes

957
01:21:54,039 --> 01:21:57,720
to show that when you look at Israel and you

958
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,720
just have people hopping over this fence and killing a

959
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,720
bunch of people and taking it and taking some hostages

960
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:07,279
and then running back, and you know, millions of people

961
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:12,159
decide they're going to go home. Israel's not a country.

962
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:17,359
Israel's not a people. It's not a Yeah, it's a

963
01:22:17,399 --> 01:22:21,199
place where people go to have extended vacations to be

964
01:22:21,319 --> 01:22:24,520
around their own, which you're not allowed to do pretty

965
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:28,520
much anywhere in the West because of a certain group

966
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,199
telling you you're a fascists if you do that. Yeah,

967
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:34,720
they don't have When you compare that to when you

968
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:40,640
compare the Spanish and you compare them, there's no there's

969
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,079
no question who the better people are, who the better

970
01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:46,079
breeding is, who the better bloodline is. There's some people

971
01:22:46,079 --> 01:22:47,399
who are going to stay and they're going to fight

972
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:52,880
for their own not run because they have no because

973
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,600
they have no home. No matter what they say about Israel,

974
01:22:57,079 --> 01:22:59,520
as soon as something goes as soon as something goes wrong,

975
01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:02,840
they no longer have a home. They go to their

976
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:07,359
other home or there, you know, wherever that may be. Yeah,

977
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,239
these aren't a these aren't a people to be.

978
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,399
Speaker 2: Yeah idolized.

979
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,520
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who idolize them. Oh,

980
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,279
I wish we got every state, and we wish we

981
01:23:20,399 --> 01:23:23,560
could have our own ethno state. And it's like, yeah,

982
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,279
when when a couple yeah, when a couple of people

983
01:23:27,319 --> 01:23:30,079
get killed, you know, when when a couple of people

984
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:34,560
get killed, what happens. Oh, we're gonna we're running home.

985
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,119
We're going to run to Europe. We're going to run

986
01:23:36,119 --> 01:23:36,960
to the United States.

987
01:23:37,279 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: Okay, the army should have been overflowing. Then the very

988
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:46,640
next day, the army should have been overflowing, right, just

989
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:51,159
as every single recruiting station in the country was the

990
01:23:51,279 --> 01:23:52,640
day after nine to eleven.

991
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: The only people in that the only people in that

992
01:23:56,199 --> 01:23:59,039
country who actually give a ship and are willing to

993
01:23:59,119 --> 01:24:02,399
die and willing to kill are the settlers. That's it.

994
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,239
They're the ones who are like, we took this. Fuck you,

995
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:07,880
we took No matter what you think of that, we

996
01:24:08,039 --> 01:24:12,600
took this. Fuck you. Unleash us, let us go, let

997
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,680
us go kill, let us go kill Palestinians, let us

998
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,239
go kill the enemy. Yes there, I.

999
01:24:18,279 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 2: Actually respect them. Yeah, and I understand why they don't

1000
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,239
want to fight in the IDEF. I don't fucking blame them. Right,

1001
01:24:26,279 --> 01:24:28,199
You got these like if you're on the if you're

1002
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:32,680
on the kibbutz, like you're fucking You're the closest that

1003
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:39,079
one of a cosmopolitan people that have had no roots

1004
01:24:40,359 --> 01:24:44,000
could be to one of those Iowa farm boys, right,

1005
01:24:44,319 --> 01:24:48,840
or one of those Appalachian coal miners kids. Right, you're

1006
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:49,479
doing work.

1007
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,560
Speaker 1: They actually the land what they're doing.

1008
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:55,520
Speaker 2: Yes, and you're working the land. That's what you're doing,

1009
01:24:56,439 --> 01:25:01,840
and a certain type of consciousness comes over you. I

1010
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,920
know this because you know, taken to growing food and

1011
01:25:07,279 --> 01:25:11,720
a certain amount of peace comes over you tending the

1012
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:18,560
soil like it really does. It clarifies your mind. I

1013
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,239
wish all of our leads.

1014
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 1: We were out in the backyard today getting things prepared

1015
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:24,239
for the winter.

1016
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:28,399
Speaker 2: Yep in tune. It makes you in tune with the seasons.

1017
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,159
It makes you in tune with your surroundings, and you

1018
01:25:31,319 --> 01:25:34,600
bond with the land. That it is a dialogue, and

1019
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,960
no one can tell me different. So those people on

1020
01:25:39,039 --> 01:25:43,800
those cobuses, their connection to the land is now a

1021
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:48,199
spiritual one. And it seems that that that's funny because

1022
01:25:48,359 --> 01:25:52,720
they're willing to die for it. And they also won't

1023
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,199
fight with the people that have to be forced to

1024
01:25:55,279 --> 01:26:01,439
fight the conscripts. The draftees actually respect that they won't

1025
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:06,800
join the idea that to me isn't the negative.

1026
01:26:08,199 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: Why would true believers want to fight fight besides trans

1027
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:20,560
people and other things? Yeah, yeah, homosexuals and I mean sorry,

1028
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,279
but women, Yeah.

1029
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 2: When they when they when they occupied that church in

1030
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:29,000
Lebanon the other day, and uh, the one own that

1031
01:26:29,119 --> 01:26:31,960
they could think of on the Christians own and desecrate.

1032
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:36,239
The church was to have a mock gay wedding except

1033
01:26:36,319 --> 01:26:39,640
for surprise, the bride or sorry, the groom and the

1034
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,439
groom you know, made out at the end of the ceremony.

1035
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:51,800
Super tough guys, Like again, I don't think that's the

1036
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:52,920
own you think it is.

1037
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:58,319
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's let's get let's yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

1038
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,560
Speaker 2: See. Uh. He knows how to get get the most

1039
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,319
out of me because I do have to be kept

1040
01:27:05,399 --> 01:27:13,840
on topic, especially like that. But so the the guys that.

1041
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:20,960
Briefly we'll talk about who else before we get into

1042
01:27:21,399 --> 01:27:26,479
Charles Lindberg's fight with FDR, which basically it became because

1043
01:27:28,079 --> 01:27:33,760
being as popular as he was, any radio station would

1044
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,920
fall all over itself to get Charles Lindberg on the air.

1045
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:46,920
Advertisers would, you know, pay insane multiples on what they

1046
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:51,720
were normally paying to be either before or after Charles

1047
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:56,399
is a Charles Lindberg speech, right, And it got to

1048
01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:02,279
a point where the president's fireside chats, President Roosevelt's fireside chats,

1049
01:28:02,319 --> 01:28:06,239
as painful as they are to listen to, I urge

1050
01:28:06,279 --> 01:28:13,640
you to start seeking out Charles Limberg's radio appearances or

1051
01:28:16,279 --> 01:28:19,399
I guess you can call them like addresses, right, and

1052
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:26,520
then find the FDR fireside chats either immediately after or

1053
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:35,079
immediately before, because these men were addressing the nation ostensibly,

1054
01:28:37,159 --> 01:28:42,039
but they were having a debate like tit for tat right.

1055
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,239
I mean, it was literally like they were on the

1056
01:28:45,279 --> 01:28:47,239
debate stage going at it if you listen to them

1057
01:28:47,279 --> 01:28:50,800
in order, and it was a debate that FDR was

1058
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:56,560
losing and Charles was winning. And after the des Moines,

1059
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:01,239
Iowa speech in nineteen forty one when he said FDR

1060
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,840
the British race and the Jewish race were pushing the

1061
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:13,880
country into war, that settled it. Seventy percent of the

1062
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,640
country at the time. It's not my these are here.

1063
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:24,640
They did the poll. This poll was was page eighteen.

1064
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: This one.

1065
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:36,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gallop Gallop nineteen thirty eight, and then Gallup nineteen

1066
01:29:36,319 --> 01:29:43,359
thirty nine, nineteen forty Yeah, most of these are going

1067
01:29:43,399 --> 01:29:47,520
to be Gallop poles. And there's the Opor surveys, which

1068
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:52,840
I think the organizations now defunct. But sixty eight percent

1069
01:29:53,199 --> 01:30:00,840
of the population of America said that Ish race had

1070
01:30:01,119 --> 01:30:09,520
too much control over the FDR administration. So it wasn't

1071
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,640
just him. In fact, Pete I sent you a book

1072
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:17,159
the other day. What was it called?

1073
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:19,520
Speaker 1: FDR and the shows.

1074
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:27,279
Speaker 2: That's probably why I did remember. It was literally no,

1075
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,760
I thought it was yeah, okay, And I remember like

1076
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,199
the I remember reading a couple uh paragraphs read like

1077
01:30:36,239 --> 01:30:39,880
the forward in the in the introductory chapters of the book,

1078
01:30:40,399 --> 01:30:46,680
And basically the purpose of the book was because it's

1079
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,680
one of those great things where they do like the

1080
01:30:50,119 --> 01:30:53,399
actually it is happening or sorry it's it's actually happening,

1081
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,800
but also it's actually a good thing, not a bad thing.

1082
01:30:57,159 --> 01:31:03,479
That you know, the the left so famously does so

1083
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:09,039
FDR In modern times, you know, in the late nineties

1084
01:31:09,079 --> 01:31:14,399
two thousands, right around like the ken Burns, the suspicious

1085
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:21,279
history documentaries started hitting the air. FDR's memory was starting

1086
01:31:21,319 --> 01:31:24,079
to get a lot of flak because he turned down,

1087
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:34,520
or he rejected that boat full of Jewish immigrats that

1088
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:49,199
were fleeing manual labor in Germany, and hey, man, like

1089
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:56,359
you know Africans, I believe or what like lactose intolerant,

1090
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:06,159
some people are some races are labor intolerant. But he rejected,

1091
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:13,439
he basically turned away the ship, right, and that kind

1092
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:20,199
of came back into public consciousness and basically like there

1093
01:32:20,319 --> 01:32:23,680
was this you know, narrative going around that it's probably

1094
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,680
from some probably from some idiot conservatives. Actually, I guarantee

1095
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:33,560
you it was probably idiot conservatives saying like, you know, oh,

1096
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:38,119
FDR don't you know love the Semites like I do.

1097
01:32:39,119 --> 01:32:43,960
In fact, FDR and the Progressives were anti Semites and

1098
01:32:44,039 --> 01:32:45,079
that's why they turned away.

1099
01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 1: These going always always attacking the left as the oh

1100
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,520
they're the real racist or they're the real anti Semites,

1101
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,720
and yeah, it's like, okay.

1102
01:32:57,239 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 2: Sure, it's like that Antioch declaration. I was listening to.

1103
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,479
I don't know what the end Ouct declaration is. I

1104
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:05,319
saw a crypto's post about it. Everyone should follow Crypto's

1105
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:11,239
one of the best accounts. I saw his post about it.

1106
01:33:11,279 --> 01:33:14,039
But I was listening and I still didn't really understand

1107
01:33:14,079 --> 01:33:16,439
what it was or basically on like whose authority it

1108
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:21,000
was issued. And then I was listening to probably the

1109
01:33:21,079 --> 01:33:26,560
angriest I've ever heard or in McIntyre just I guess,

1110
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,039
just dropped a stream about about this and about how

1111
01:33:30,119 --> 01:33:34,119
to handle in you know, disagreements and in fighting inside

1112
01:33:34,199 --> 01:33:38,199
your cultural political movement. It was a really good talk,

1113
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:44,439
very angry, which is interesting and refreshing to hear. I

1114
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,000
think Aaron should get more angry. Aaron, if you're listening,

1115
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:54,520
I need to lean into that. It's it's good, not

1116
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,000
like being angry, it's good. Being angry is not good.

1117
01:33:59,079 --> 01:34:03,319
No emotion is good in and of itself. But hearing

1118
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:10,319
him deliver, you know, points like that with with some

1119
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:16,520
anger and hostility in his voice, it makes Aaron hit

1120
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:21,359
much different and in a very positive way. So Aaron

1121
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:28,479
get angrier and preferably right before your streams. But yeah,

1122
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:34,000
it was It's like what conservatives do, man, They go

1123
01:34:34,279 --> 01:34:38,479
run to the left to try and cancel you know

1124
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:42,479
guys they don't like on the right, and they anyways,

1125
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,159
But yeah, so this book came out to try and

1126
01:34:46,399 --> 01:34:48,920
like it was basically like no, no, no. In fact,

1127
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:59,359
the Jewish people in the FDR administration was actually their

1128
01:34:59,399 --> 01:35:06,520
relationship so close, in fact, that the public started, you know,

1129
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:10,880
asking a lot of questions and getting very concerned. And

1130
01:35:11,119 --> 01:35:17,640
with his third election right around the corner, it basically

1131
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:22,000
became politically untenable for him to accept them because of

1132
01:35:22,079 --> 01:35:24,479
all the other good things that he had done for

1133
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:35,199
the Jewish people in his administration thus far, so surprise,

1134
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:39,479
FDR not an anti Semite at all, but was so

1135
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:49,039
philo semitic in fact that it became politically toxic, and

1136
01:35:50,279 --> 01:35:55,399
if he had done any more of it, the toxicity

1137
01:35:55,439 --> 01:36:02,399
would have been fatal to his third presidential aspirations. So

1138
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,199
that's why. And the book that they that I encourage

1139
01:36:06,239 --> 01:36:09,119
everyone to read it. I've only just started. But if

1140
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,920
it if it keeps on hitting like the injured, like

1141
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,600
the intro chapters, I think it's going to be a

1142
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:20,720
really interesting book. But yeah, seventy percent of the country

1143
01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:28,119
saw it the way that Lindbergh did that these were

1144
01:36:28,239 --> 01:36:33,000
the three interest groups right when I think he says

1145
01:36:33,079 --> 01:36:38,119
the FDR administration and FDR personally, he was saying FDR personally,

1146
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,119
but the guys that were backing him, backing the America

1147
01:36:42,199 --> 01:36:45,960
First Committee, these were the same guys as the American

1148
01:36:46,039 --> 01:36:49,439
Liberty League. If you remember my talk about the American

1149
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,479
Liberty League in the last episode did with Pete, you'll

1150
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:56,840
get an idea who he's talking about when he says,

1151
01:36:57,039 --> 01:37:02,039
like the FDR regime as its own separate interest groups,

1152
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:08,000
because at least from the men that were in power

1153
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:19,399
in industrial, financial, social capital, like that type of power,

1154
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:23,760
even though they weren't in the government because the Progressives,

1155
01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:27,680
I'm sorry, the New Dealers. These men saw it as

1156
01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:42,800
a political regime that was being puppeteered by Bolshevik Russia,

1157
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:45,520
and there was a lot of good evidence for it.

1158
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,880
A lot of that evidence would be confirmed by what

1159
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:54,560
it's called the Venona cables. Turns out like they had

1160
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:58,760
some the Russians had some pretty good encryption tech at

1161
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:03,880
the time and their ciphers. It took like computing power

1162
01:38:06,359 --> 01:38:09,399
of like the early two thousands to come around before

1163
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:11,760
we had the ability to bust it open. So I

1164
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:18,359
think the NSA cracked Venona, or at least released announced

1165
01:38:18,359 --> 01:38:21,600
that they cracked it and released it, I believe, in

1166
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:29,920
the early two thousands. But surprise, McCarthy was right. And

1167
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:33,760
not only was he right, all of these guys at

1168
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:38,439
the time of FDR were right and were more right

1169
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:44,039
than they even thought they were right. Like our first

1170
01:38:44,159 --> 01:38:55,279
lady was literally a CPUSA member, what the fuck like?

1171
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:59,520
Barack Obama isn't a Marxist, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris isn't

1172
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:07,600
a Marxist. But the FDR regime was, the New Deal

1173
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:11,720
regime was at least most of the people in prominent

1174
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:16,760
positions within the administration were and they wanted the US

1175
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:19,760
in World War two real bad, because who is the

1176
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:29,960
other group of people that were withering against the onslaught

1177
01:39:30,119 --> 01:39:36,680
brought on by the Wehrmacht or the Luftwaffa. It wasn't

1178
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:41,239
just the British, It wasn't just the Jews. It was

1179
01:39:41,319 --> 01:39:49,800
the Soviets, and the Soviets unlike the British their lend lease.

1180
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,319
I heard you bring up the other day, Pete, and

1181
01:39:53,399 --> 01:39:55,520
I don't think a lot of people know it is

1182
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,560
that at the time of the US entry into World

1183
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:04,239
War Two, most of our arms manufacturing weren't manufacturing, weren't

1184
01:40:04,319 --> 01:40:06,560
set up for from the very beginning. We're not set

1185
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:11,359
up for and we're not at the time making American calibers.

1186
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:18,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you what, I think the main character

1187
01:40:18,359 --> 01:40:21,760
the caliber they were manufacturing was seven sixty two by

1188
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:26,279
fifty four four? Yeah, what's that? What's that for? That's

1189
01:40:27,279 --> 01:40:33,079
most in the Gaunt Yeah, other Russian whatever that rifles?

1190
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it? The the DPM is that the

1191
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,880
one with the plate on top of it. It looks

1192
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:40,680
like a dinner plate or record on the.

1193
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 1: Top of it they care.

1194
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 2: Remember, Yeah, it's like the precursor to the RPD. Yeah. Wait,

1195
01:40:51,079 --> 01:40:54,680
is the RPD the fat AK forty seven? Now what's

1196
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,199
the what's the seven sixty two? By thirty nine belt

1197
01:40:57,239 --> 01:41:05,079
fed that's my favorite. I'm not a PKM respector I

1198
01:41:05,159 --> 01:41:08,319
think it's the RPD. I think it's the DPM.

1199
01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the yeah, the DPM. Maschie was the seven sixty

1200
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,039
two let me.

1201
01:41:17,079 --> 01:41:21,359
Speaker 2: See thirty nine? Or it was the DPM the No.

1202
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:26,479
Fifty four r Okay, and that's the one with the

1203
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:30,399
h the weird disc magazine. Yep.

1204
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 1: And if you got to Battlefield, Vegas you can rent

1205
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:33,439
one and shoot it.

1206
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 2: Oh Man and FDR you know fed the magazines. That's great, hooray.

1207
01:41:45,239 --> 01:41:49,199
It makes me fucking sick. The backers of the America

1208
01:41:49,279 --> 01:41:52,359
First Committee were equally as interesting. So they were all

1209
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:55,039
the men that I had previously talked about with the

1210
01:41:55,359 --> 01:41:59,640
American Liberty League. Right, But you've an idea of this organization.

1211
01:42:00,239 --> 01:42:04,840
It was the largest organization political or otherwise in the country.

1212
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:14,439
It had eight hundred thousand paid members paid. Think about that,

1213
01:42:15,039 --> 01:42:18,159
like even today, do you think you know Act Blue

1214
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:24,079
or DSA, or do you think any Democrat let alone

1215
01:42:24,119 --> 01:42:28,600
Republican Republican be laughable. But do you think any political

1216
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,920
action group in the US has eight hundred thousand paid

1217
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:34,760
members paid? Isn't like they've received a check.

1218
01:42:36,199 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 1: Well, you don't need that anymore because you have so

1219
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:44,359
many big gigant you know, billionaires willing to fund you that. Yeah,

1220
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:45,000
you don't need that.

1221
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 2: Well you gotta hire I mean, these are people collecting checks,

1222
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:57,039
not submitting them. Oh wow, yeah, insane. Well they also

1223
01:42:57,199 --> 01:42:59,720
like like it was also like a union. Their members

1224
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:05,239
also did pay, you know, did contribute, but they don't

1225
01:43:05,279 --> 01:43:09,640
actually know how many members. Even the president of the

1226
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,560
America First Committee even said, like, I have no idea

1227
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:16,399
how many actual members we have. There was and what

1228
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:19,319
was the population? What was the population in nineteen forty

1229
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:22,880
You have a much less loud keyboard than I do.

1230
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:28,359
I won'st subject the listeners to that population.

1231
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: USA was a population one hundred and thirty two million.

1232
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:40,039
Speaker 2: Okay, well, there was over a quarter of a million

1233
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:51,239
America First Committee members in just Chicago. That's huge. Again,

1234
01:43:51,359 --> 01:43:54,039
eighty percent of the population not only agreed with the

1235
01:43:54,159 --> 01:44:03,119
tenets of the America First Committee, but I would probably

1236
01:44:03,159 --> 01:44:05,960
say a majority of that eighty percent back to the

1237
01:44:06,119 --> 01:44:07,399
organization themselves.

1238
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 1: So what who want to check? You know, you want

1239
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:15,079
to know what's really interesting about that? So those numbers

1240
01:44:15,119 --> 01:44:19,760
that he's quoting, I'm almost one hundred percent positive he

1241
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:24,319
got those from a book called Hitler and Los Angeles,

1242
01:44:24,399 --> 01:44:29,119
How Jews Foiled Nazi plots against Hollywood, and in there,

1243
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:34,239
which was written by Stephen J. Ross. In there, they

1244
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:43,720
they actually post these these surveys from the thirties asking people,

1245
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:48,000
you know, do you trust Jews? Do you use it? They? Yeah,

1246
01:44:48,079 --> 01:44:50,640
they they I think it was the American Jewish Committee

1247
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,800
at the time that was doing those, if I remember

1248
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:57,239
the book correctly, But yeah, those are those had been

1249
01:44:57,399 --> 01:45:01,359
long for those numbers have been long forgot until they

1250
01:45:02,359 --> 01:45:05,159
decided to write this book to brag about how they

1251
01:45:05,279 --> 01:45:06,640
foiled all these Nazi plots.

1252
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:10,199
Speaker 2: Again, do you remember what it said the percentage of

1253
01:45:10,319 --> 01:45:12,600
the US population that trusted Jews.

1254
01:45:14,359 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 1: Trust it was between it was between seventy and eighty

1255
01:45:17,279 --> 01:45:18,720
who the trusted.

1256
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 2: Trusted or distrusted don't think either.

1257
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 1: Or well, well, distrusted was between seventy and eighty percent.

1258
01:45:28,239 --> 01:45:30,560
That makes about And you can even and I'm on

1259
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,720
Amazon right now and like even one of the one

1260
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:41,720
of the reviewers says, but what is it? I found

1261
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:44,840
this book well written and fascinating. I was somewhat amazed

1262
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:48,840
at the strong sense of anti semitism and isolationism that

1263
01:45:49,039 --> 01:45:52,199
existed in some of the more progressive areas of America

1264
01:45:52,239 --> 01:45:54,800
at the time. I'm concerned that some of this thinking

1265
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,760
is raising its ugly head once again in both Europe

1266
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:02,640
and America. This is a review from March seventh, twenty eighteen.

1267
01:46:07,279 --> 01:46:11,880
So yeah, they they actually went through those numbers in

1268
01:46:12,039 --> 01:46:15,439
this book and just you know, basically told them themselves

1269
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:17,359
that you know, it's like it's one of those things

1270
01:46:17,399 --> 01:46:21,399
where you're they do it, all this information that they

1271
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:24,640
do it. It's it's so ridiculous that they do it

1272
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:27,319
all the time. They think that if they put that

1273
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:31,119
out there, that thinking people aren't going to ask questions

1274
01:46:31,239 --> 01:46:38,560
like well why why I mean people in this because

1275
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:38,800
you have.

1276
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 2: To think that they think that they're the only ones

1277
01:46:41,039 --> 01:46:47,159
that are thinking people. So I don't believe in I

1278
01:46:47,239 --> 01:46:50,399
don't believe in all of the all of the Sillier

1279
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:56,239
tropes about you know, their their cartoon representation of in

1280
01:46:56,399 --> 01:47:01,119
the figure of Dracula. I mean, yes, you know, I

1281
01:47:01,319 --> 01:47:07,479
understand Saint Simon. For Saint Simon. Saint Simon's gonna have it.

1282
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:10,720
We'll have his revenge, I'm sure of it, at least

1283
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:16,800
in Europe. But the fact that the vampire can't see

1284
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:25,159
his reflection in the mirror, I find just so on

1285
01:47:25,359 --> 01:47:27,720
the nose that I hate to even cheapen it with

1286
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:35,279
a pun like that. But they're not only incapable of

1287
01:47:35,319 --> 01:47:45,000
self reflection, aha, but they're also incapable of seeing themselves

1288
01:47:45,119 --> 01:47:49,319
as a broader group, right, So like in that, in

1289
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:54,000
that public bragging, like you would think, like, oh, this

1290
01:47:54,319 --> 01:47:58,439
may be a bad idea for us. More broadly, you know,

1291
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,680
like there is no there's no reflection at a group

1292
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:10,359
level either, anyways, because the telling on themselves is constant.

1293
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:15,039
It is a constant theme. I find it just deranged.

1294
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:21,439
But some of the fiscal backers that the check cutter

1295
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:27,439
is the big ones. One is Julius Morton, Governor of

1296
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:33,600
Nebraska and US Secretary of ad under. I believe Hoober

1297
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:42,119
he was kind of a big deal in the budding

1298
01:48:42,199 --> 01:48:48,159
conservationist movement. Arbor Day exists because of this man. He

1299
01:48:48,359 --> 01:48:55,800
made He made his money. I can't remember, I can't

1300
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,079
remember I made his money. Somebody should check it out.

1301
01:48:58,079 --> 01:49:02,359
I'm sure it's interesting. Another guy was Joseph Patterson. It

1302
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:07,600
was a millionaire at the time, very much of the establishment,

1303
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:13,399
and was founder of the Daily News, which was the

1304
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:19,039
only newspaper talking sense. So everyone, when you go back

1305
01:49:19,119 --> 01:49:21,840
in time, and this is the other thing, like our

1306
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:28,239
academics represent the opinions of the American people in past

1307
01:49:28,279 --> 01:49:32,199
times by seeing by basically looking in the newspapers, right pete,

1308
01:49:33,119 --> 01:49:34,920
Like if they want to see, like what Americans were

1309
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,760
saying about a certain thing. But who owns the fucking newspapers?

1310
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:44,399
Speaker 1: Like I have never heard on especially the New York Times?

1311
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah right, who said that? That's the paper record? Who says, uh,

1312
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,119
how come I have never how come I and probably

1313
01:49:56,199 --> 01:49:59,720
you have never heard of the Daily News the newspaper.

1314
01:50:01,079 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the New York Daily News, are we? Yeah?

1315
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:07,319
I mean New York. You have the New York Daily News,

1316
01:50:07,399 --> 01:50:09,079
you have the Post in the New York Post, and

1317
01:50:09,159 --> 01:50:11,279
you have the New York Times.

1318
01:50:11,359 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 2: Let me see, m M. I'd have to go back

1319
01:50:19,039 --> 01:50:19,439
and check.

1320
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, keep going, it's just the Daily News.

1321
01:50:24,319 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 2: The founders Joseph Peterson or Patterson, pa double t E. R. S. O. N.

1322
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:35,920
But I had never heard of the Daily News, But

1323
01:50:36,039 --> 01:50:43,079
it was the largest newspaper in the country in the

1324
01:50:43,199 --> 01:50:49,159
forties and the thirties and the twenties. How have I

1325
01:50:49,239 --> 01:50:52,359
never heard of that? And they had had the largest

1326
01:50:52,399 --> 01:50:55,279
circulation in the country. How come nobody ever goes and

1327
01:50:55,319 --> 01:50:59,239
looks at the Daily News when they're looking through microfilms

1328
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:04,640
about American opinion? Because I just found that out yesterday

1329
01:51:05,039 --> 01:51:08,199
and as of now, I am going to start looking

1330
01:51:08,239 --> 01:51:11,399
at when I want to look at opinions of the past,

1331
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:16,840
That's what I'm going to look for because almost all

1332
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:23,399
of the historical you know, academic work, right is you

1333
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:26,520
know when they when newspapers are involved, or like you know,

1334
01:51:27,119 --> 01:51:31,760
going through archival newspapers, it's always the New York Times

1335
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:37,119
or the Washington Post. But one of the most interesting

1336
01:51:37,239 --> 01:51:42,800
backers of America First and a frequent check cutter, was

1337
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:54,560
one John F. Kennedy. So you had Gerald Ford as

1338
01:51:54,680 --> 01:52:00,039
one of the founding members, and which I find that

1339
01:52:00,199 --> 01:52:07,000
very interesting that he was Nixon's VP choice, right, that's

1340
01:52:07,079 --> 01:52:14,560
pretty cool. But anyways, John F. Kennedy would write handwritten

1341
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,760
notes because he would always be would put his checks

1342
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:23,840
in envelopes, and on the envelopes each time would be like,

1343
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:30,800
this is the most vital, this is the most vital

1344
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:36,239
effort in the nation. This is the most important effort

1345
01:52:36,399 --> 01:52:41,359
or the most important undertaking of the nation. He was

1346
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:50,439
a vehement supporter of America first John F. Kennedy his

1347
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:55,319
father as well, Right, But his father's a business magnate

1348
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:02,960
and a foreign diplomat, right, very similar to like the

1349
01:53:03,039 --> 01:53:08,600
Myron T. Herrick types. You know. I think Herrick was

1350
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:14,439
a banker, Yeah, a successful banker, because he's who that

1351
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:20,880
He's the guy who was I think in the in

1352
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:22,680
the very first episode when we were talking about the

1353
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:25,960
very first episode of the Robbert Barons, we were talking

1354
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:30,479
about how Pierpont Morgan was trying to get out ahead

1355
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:34,800
of and stop before it really really really got underway.

1356
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:39,840
Like I think it was like Turkey and some other country,

1357
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:43,960
you know, like this, the the Eastern European countries had

1358
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:48,000
just started, right, and it would later melt over. But

1359
01:53:50,039 --> 01:53:56,560
the JP Morgan and Company tried issuing, tried offering very large,

1360
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:02,520
zero interest and forgivable loans to both of the both

1361
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:09,600
of the belligerent nations, and Myron was the it was

1362
01:54:11,039 --> 01:54:21,000
orchestrated out of Morgan and Morgan. Grenfeld was the London office.

1363
01:54:22,159 --> 01:54:26,039
Morgan and Hodges was the with the Paris office. It

1364
01:54:26,159 --> 01:54:29,319
was operated out of the US Embassy in France or

1365
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:35,000
in Paris, France, which was uh that Myron guys operation

1366
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:42,239
and and out of Morgan and Hodges. So I find

1367
01:54:42,279 --> 01:54:44,600
it really interesting that like the same guys that tried

1368
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:47,439
to stop World War One are also the same guys

1369
01:54:47,479 --> 01:54:52,640
that tried to stop World War two. I don't find

1370
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:54,920
that a coincidence at all. Oh and by the way,

1371
01:54:54,920 --> 01:55:00,199
they're also the most financially powerful people and you could

1372
01:55:00,199 --> 01:55:04,680
say the most financially literate people in the country. So

1373
01:55:05,239 --> 01:55:11,279
sorry libertarians, sorry leftists. Turns out industrialists and bankers don't

1374
01:55:11,359 --> 01:55:19,600
want wars, so no wars are bankers wars retards. God,

1375
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:28,520
I hate the sloganeering of libertarians. Their bumper their ideology

1376
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:39,840
is a bumper sticker deep because all of the US

1377
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:45,680
bankers seemed to work very very hard, at substantial personal

1378
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:49,279
risk to themselves and their fortunes to do the opposite

1379
01:55:49,319 --> 01:55:53,680
of war. So at least as far as America is concerned,

1380
01:55:54,359 --> 01:56:02,560
no wars are bankers wars. And the guy that headed.

1381
01:56:03,079 --> 01:56:05,520
The guy that was the first president of the American

1382
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:10,159
First Committee is a really interesting character. So like you're

1383
01:56:10,159 --> 01:56:14,760
talking about like the level of American brass top top's.

1384
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:20,359
I guess you could say, like pop ethnic stock of

1385
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:29,600
the heritage American ethnohos. I shouldn't laugh, all right, Daryl

1386
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:31,560
Cooper already spends enough time trying to tell me that

1387
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:35,720
I don't have a people and I don't have a country.

1388
01:56:37,119 --> 01:56:42,039
I shouldn't give his silly position any any help. But

1389
01:56:42,159 --> 01:56:47,000
he's great on everything else, Daryl Cooper's He's a really

1390
01:56:47,039 --> 01:56:51,880
good guy, just wrong about one thing, which is all right,

1391
01:56:52,039 --> 01:56:54,520
because a lot of smart guys are usually wrong at

1392
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:55,920
at least one thing.

1393
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:01,239
Speaker 1: Murray Rothbard used to say that you're allowed one deviation.

1394
01:57:02,159 --> 01:57:07,239
Speaker 2: Really I like that, Yeah, I think I should be

1395
01:57:07,279 --> 01:57:17,760
allowed at least one contradiction or deviation or incoherence. Brigadier

1396
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:24,039
General Robert Wood was the president and chairman of the

1397
01:57:24,159 --> 01:57:34,119
America First Committee. I like, you know before this is

1398
01:57:34,199 --> 01:57:42,680
this guy's actually really really interesting, right. He was a

1399
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:52,319
successful executive, and he went to West Point and he

1400
01:57:52,439 --> 01:57:56,840
served in the Philippines from nineteen oh two to nineteen

1401
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,800
oh three. And if you know anything about what happened

1402
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:03,439
in the Philippines, you will understand that this man saw

1403
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:11,960
some shit, like some real horrific stuff. But he retired

1404
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:20,680
in nineteen fifteen and then became the vice president of

1405
01:58:23,279 --> 01:58:31,159
DuPont Company and headed operations inside the United States. Right, actually,

1406
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:36,359
just to clarify for his service in the Philippines, because

1407
01:58:36,399 --> 01:58:38,520
would wonder, like, is this guy like a kiddet, like

1408
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:42,359
how old was he? Right? So, at the time that

1409
01:58:42,479 --> 01:58:48,920
he was retired and he was a major and would

1410
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:54,000
later be in nineteen oh five, became assistant quartermaster or

1411
01:58:54,079 --> 01:59:00,800
assistant chief quartermaster and then chief Quartermaster. But that was

1412
01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:04,119
that was after his service in the Philippines. So he

1413
01:59:04,439 --> 01:59:08,119
started off the Philippines just a regular officer, as one

1414
01:59:08,239 --> 01:59:13,319
does when you graduate West Point, but he would leave

1415
01:59:14,439 --> 01:59:20,800
a major and then go and be vice president of

1416
01:59:21,399 --> 01:59:25,960
DuPont and head of US operations. Pete, do you remember

1417
01:59:26,319 --> 01:59:29,600
who was one of the largest backers of the American

1418
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:31,880
Liberty League besides Jack Morgan?

1419
01:59:36,279 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember. I didn't remember, thank you.

1420
01:59:39,479 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 2: So I find it very interesting that one of DuPont's

1421
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:49,439
top guys has the America First Committee. I'm sure after

1422
01:59:49,479 --> 01:59:52,119
the American Liberty League and the direct attack that they

1423
01:59:52,199 --> 01:59:58,479
came under by the newly birthed regulatory state. I'm assuming

1424
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:01,399
that these guys it best to put at least one

1425
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:10,560
layer vicilation between them and their political action, and that

1426
02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:16,479
was mister Robert Wood, sorry, Brigadier General Robert Wood, and

1427
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:24,319
he stepped down from the DuPont Company on the eve

1428
02:00:25,079 --> 02:00:28,600
of nineteen seventeen and America's entry into the First World War.

1429
02:00:30,399 --> 02:00:34,920
He returned to the army as an infantry lieutenant colonel,

1430
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:41,960
so he was on the front line. He stepped down

1431
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:45,359
out of the Vice President's office of one of the

1432
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:55,079
most successful and wealthiest companies in the country to go

1433
02:00:55,159 --> 02:01:02,399
to the front lines. Find me anyone, anyone in corporate

1434
02:01:02,439 --> 02:01:09,880
America today in senior leadership that not only served. There's

1435
02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:13,520
lots of men that serve that hold those positions, at

1436
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:17,439
least a handful, But how many of them are going

1437
02:01:17,479 --> 02:01:23,159
to step down from those positions and fight on the

1438
02:01:23,199 --> 02:01:27,520
front line if their nation is ever called to arms.

1439
02:01:29,199 --> 02:01:30,279
We used to be better.

1440
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:33,479
Speaker 1: Unheard of, Yeah, we used to be. That just doesn't happen.

1441
02:01:34,039 --> 02:01:35,159
That doesn't happen anymore.

1442
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 2: All of this stops tomorrow, all of it, this hell

1443
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:51,560
we live in this rail husk of a once great house,

1444
02:01:54,039 --> 02:02:04,920
this amazing place. It turned into a haunted house, a

1445
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:09,520
house of like horrors. Now all of this ends tomorrow.

1446
02:02:12,479 --> 02:02:18,319
When the men with money realized that some things, in

1447
02:02:18,399 --> 02:02:31,640
fact most things, are more important than money. These men

1448
02:02:32,920 --> 02:02:38,000
knew that already instinctively. Somehow it's been conditioned out of us.

1449
02:02:38,159 --> 02:02:41,640
I don't know how, but I'm sure it wasn't easy,

1450
02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:44,439
and I'm sure it didn't happen quickly, but it happened.

1451
02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:51,960
These men knew that there were things more valuable than money,

1452
02:02:55,000 --> 02:03:02,239
that there were risks of loss far worse than money.

1453
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:07,239
There are worse things, as we are finding out today

1454
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:19,279
than losing money. Yea, and the sum total of our

1455
02:03:19,359 --> 02:03:25,640
past sins. Wha. What's that quote from the movie The Patriots?

1456
02:03:25,680 --> 02:03:28,439
But the only quote of that movie I like. He's

1457
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:32,439
like he says that my greatest fear was that my

1458
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:39,239
past sins would one day come home to roost, like sorry,

1459
02:03:39,319 --> 02:03:43,680
the ghosts of my past sins would come home to roost,

1460
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:46,560
and the cost would be more than I could bear.

1461
02:03:47,119 --> 02:03:52,119
I believe it's a quote. It's a good one, because

1462
02:03:55,039 --> 02:03:58,880
I hope that that's not the case with America. I

1463
02:03:59,039 --> 02:04:10,199
hope that the ghosts of our elite's sins have come

1464
02:04:10,239 --> 02:04:17,640
home to roost. We live in it. I just hope

1465
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:21,880
that the cost is not more than the nation can bear.

1466
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:30,359
But he would later lead the entire American Expeditionary Force

1467
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:35,079
and exited the war as a brigadier general. He would

1468
02:04:35,119 --> 02:04:41,720
then go on to chair the Sears Roebock Company. He

1469
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:45,920
became one of the most important business leaders, not only

1470
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:49,560
in the company's history but in the country at the time,

1471
02:04:50,079 --> 02:04:54,159
serving as its president from nineteen twenty eight until nineteen

1472
02:04:54,239 --> 02:05:02,520
thirty nine. Also founded All State They're pretty serious, dude,

1473
02:05:05,159 --> 02:05:09,199
Right to give you an idea of his bona fides

1474
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:22,239
as far as American Anglo aristocracy is. He in nineteen

1475
02:05:22,319 --> 02:05:31,039
fifty was admitted into the Fraternal and Hereditary Anxiety of

1476
02:05:31,119 --> 02:05:37,800
the Cincinnati If you know, you know, I don't leave

1477
02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:54,520
it at that. But these people, these people weren't like

1478
02:05:55,079 --> 02:06:02,760
the men like I just see these men and I

1479
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:12,319
look at like our guys, and the shoes that we

1480
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:19,399
have to fill are immense. Yes, we have been gate

1481
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:30,800
kept away from the wealth of our nation. And I

1482
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:35,520
say that rather hypocritically because some of us, myself included

1483
02:06:35,600 --> 02:06:42,479
have not been. But I know most of our guys

1484
02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:48,239
have so the bounty of the greatest country in the

1485
02:06:48,359 --> 02:06:52,800
history of the world. Their inheritance has been kept from them.

1486
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:59,920
So as far as positions of prominence in our lead

1487
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:14,600
business institutions, cultural institutions, and political institutions like ESAU, that

1488
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:26,239
inheritance has been stolen through trickery and deceit. So these

1489
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:32,159
men's positions of prominence are not shoes that I can

1490
02:07:32,239 --> 02:07:40,560
reasonably expect our guys to fill, but their character, their

1491
02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:59,680
sense of duty, and their commitment to America, the nation.

1492
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:05,600
It is a sum total of the internet or sorry,

1493
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:16,399
intergenerational what's the word to put it. I guess I

1494
02:08:16,399 --> 02:08:23,399
don't want to get too metaphysical. But we believe intrinsically

1495
02:08:27,199 --> 02:08:36,279
that there is some type of Well, every now and

1496
02:08:36,399 --> 02:08:41,119
then science throws us a bone, right, science confirms something

1497
02:08:42,119 --> 02:08:48,199
that surprises science but does not surprise us people of faith,

1498
02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:53,880
all right, And one of those things is the discovery

1499
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:59,039
of epigenetic memory. It's a very real thing. We can

1500
02:08:59,279 --> 02:09:03,640
test it in entirely controlled environments. Now, first, it was

1501
02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:06,479
that hundred monkeys thing that I think I mentioned on

1502
02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:14,840
our show with Thomas astral and Jay Burton, Yeah, also

1503
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:19,520
a great guy. But we can replicate we can replicate

1504
02:09:19,560 --> 02:09:25,279
it in the lab and entirely close environments. Right, we're

1505
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:28,319
you know, using different color spiders and things like that,

1506
02:09:29,359 --> 02:09:38,640
where you know chimp will you know, associates some very

1507
02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:44,960
negative stimuli to certain colors and shapes, and their offspring

1508
02:09:45,319 --> 02:09:51,680
are inherently I'm sorry, instinctly scared of those same colors

1509
02:09:51,720 --> 02:10:02,279
and shapes within one generation. So our consciousness, right, is

1510
02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:17,359
there is that innate nature of it, that observer, that

1511
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:27,039
passive participant, that is pure awareness, that is that's our soul,

1512
02:10:27,159 --> 02:10:31,640
that is our spirit. But then there is our consciousness,

1513
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:38,239
our conscious mind, the part of our soul that is

1514
02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:48,920
us and not God. That is a sum total of

1515
02:10:49,319 --> 02:10:58,399
our memories, our life. So if a portion of memory

1516
02:10:59,439 --> 02:11:15,279
is inherent intergenerational memory, then consciousness. It's impossible to deny

1517
02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:22,520
that there is an element of intergenerational consciousness in a

1518
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:35,439
people and ethnos or racial consciousness in the real sense,

1519
02:11:35,720 --> 02:11:40,439
not in the rhetorical sense like the left uses. But

1520
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:50,800
there is a real living conscious entity that is the

1521
02:11:50,840 --> 02:12:02,359
sum total of the memories of each generation. I don't

1522
02:12:02,399 --> 02:12:04,560
think I'm doing an adequate job of explaining him a

1523
02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:10,239
little slow today, but the results of this are undeniable.

1524
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:14,960
Speaker 1: Go ahead, please, honestly, honestly, I think that's a conversation

1525
02:12:15,119 --> 02:12:20,560
for another day. That deserves, that deserves its own episode.

1526
02:12:21,119 --> 02:12:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to. I'd like to have that chat

1527
02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:26,439
with maybe Thomas too, because he was the one that

1528
02:12:26,600 --> 02:12:29,720
initially gave that light bulb. But like the people that

1529
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:39,840
serve are moved by that consciousness, right, those are shoes

1530
02:12:39,880 --> 02:12:47,479
that you can fill. I don't think the ancients were

1531
02:12:47,800 --> 02:12:53,640
dumb in their worship, at least in some spiritual capacity

1532
02:12:54,439 --> 02:13:05,960
their ancestors alongside their gods, because I mean, you know, anyways,

1533
02:13:07,039 --> 02:13:09,159
so we can fill those shoes. We don't have to

1534
02:13:09,239 --> 02:13:15,640
fill the shoes, you know, financially or economically or in

1535
02:13:15,800 --> 02:13:21,079
positions of prominence yet, But we have to be able

1536
02:13:21,159 --> 02:13:24,319
to fill those men's these men's shoes in our concept

1537
02:13:25,720 --> 02:13:37,560
and are mortal devotion to those things to be ready

1538
02:13:37,960 --> 02:13:42,560
to fill those shoes, to be to be deserving of

1539
02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:46,640
filling those shoes. And when I look at these guys,

1540
02:13:48,159 --> 02:13:53,359
and then I look at our guys today, we need

1541
02:13:53,399 --> 02:13:59,399
a lot of work. Just like the black pilling, for instance,

1542
02:13:59,640 --> 02:14:10,239
the defeatism if you were in a trench, that type

1543
02:14:10,239 --> 02:14:15,399
of attitude would get everyone killed, if they didn't kill

1544
02:14:15,479 --> 02:14:26,479
you themselves. Yeah. Yeah, like we have to be better.

1545
02:14:30,279 --> 02:14:35,159
Speaker 1: Well we yeah, I'll end it. I'll end it on

1546
02:14:35,279 --> 02:14:40,039
this is you mentioned Orrin in an episode he did

1547
02:14:41,039 --> 02:14:48,359
and he was talking about the Antioch thing, Well, what

1548
02:14:48,680 --> 02:14:56,199
what the fuck is that? That's some bullshit, bullshit inter

1549
02:14:56,359 --> 02:15:00,439
Protestant fighting. You know, signed this to make sign this

1550
02:15:00,560 --> 02:15:02,239
to prove you're not a fascist or whatever.

1551
02:15:03,119 --> 02:15:03,399
Speaker 2: But the.

1552
02:15:05,640 --> 02:15:12,960
Speaker 1: The point of Orn's that whole episode. And you know,

1553
02:15:13,319 --> 02:15:16,199
a couple of comments I've made recently is that it

1554
02:15:16,279 --> 02:15:22,600
seems like now that the left is seemingly defeated, instead

1555
02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:27,279
of the right focusing on either utterly destroying the left

1556
02:15:27,359 --> 02:15:32,079
that they never come back, or maybe looking at some problems,

1557
02:15:32,720 --> 02:15:37,319
some big problems. On the right, they're arguing over memes.

1558
02:15:37,800 --> 02:15:41,840
There are you. I mean, they're basically unfollowing people going

1559
02:15:41,920 --> 02:15:45,199
to war with people over the meaning of memes. And

1560
02:15:46,680 --> 02:15:49,359
we can't be expected to be ready for the kind

1561
02:15:49,359 --> 02:15:54,279
of fight you're talking about if we're fighting with each

1562
02:15:54,279 --> 02:15:59,600
other over this meme or you know, what is you

1563
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:03,079
know or oh well, you know, if if you're if

1564
02:16:03,119 --> 02:16:06,399
you're against Israel. If you're against Israel right now because

1565
02:16:06,399 --> 02:16:09,319
they're at war, then you're obviously on the side of

1566
02:16:09,399 --> 02:16:12,920
the Palestinians. I mean it just and if if that's

1567
02:16:13,079 --> 02:16:16,159
if that's true, you're a third worldist and it's just bullshit.

1568
02:16:16,439 --> 02:16:19,680
It's just sorry. The the right got it. The right

1569
02:16:19,720 --> 02:16:21,880
decided they were going to get into it. The right

1570
02:16:22,119 --> 02:16:24,560
is like, oh, well look at this. I mean, Trump

1571
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:28,039
got elected, and you know the woke is you see

1572
02:16:28,760 --> 02:16:32,520
people taking removing their pronouns and stuff like that. So

1573
02:16:32,680 --> 02:16:35,440
they're defeated, so let's fight with each other, you know.

1574
02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:43,559
Speaker 2: It just what the Army Rangers and also NATO has

1575
02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:45,680
been nice enough to do something similar to the documents

1576
02:16:45,719 --> 02:16:51,559
called cognitive warfare. It cannot read the the Army Rangers.

1577
02:16:52,600 --> 02:16:56,840
If the Army Rangers have their own psychological warfare outfit,

1578
02:16:57,559 --> 02:17:01,639
and you can get a hold of the the training

1579
02:17:01,680 --> 02:17:08,200
manual and doctrine even I think it's this. The repository

1580
02:17:08,200 --> 02:17:09,959
I found them on was like it was a like

1581
02:17:10,040 --> 02:17:12,280
called public in Cel Intelligence. It's a great site for

1582
02:17:14,120 --> 02:17:20,879
policy documents and training manuals. Like a training manual for

1583
02:17:21,079 --> 02:17:23,200
like anything military is really like not just like a

1584
02:17:23,559 --> 02:17:26,799
you know, it's not an instruction manual. It's really like everything, right,

1585
02:17:28,239 --> 02:17:32,079
it's a complete text, but Public Intelligence I believe was

1586
02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:34,360
the site I got it from in this particular instance.

1587
02:17:34,479 --> 02:17:39,360
But it basically goes through what syops actually are, and

1588
02:17:39,520 --> 02:17:42,360
I think it's very informative, and I think we would

1589
02:17:42,399 --> 02:17:45,559
do well in knowing it because all the things that

1590
02:17:45,639 --> 02:17:49,079
we get chalked up so that we chalk up to syops, right,

1591
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:52,159
like hoaxes or trying to convince us of things that

1592
02:17:52,239 --> 02:17:55,680
aren't real, right, like holograms or whatever. Like all the

1593
02:17:55,719 --> 02:17:59,520
stuff that Alex Jones, you know, screams, are syops, right,

1594
02:17:59,680 --> 02:18:03,040
like these fake things that didn't happen, trying to convince

1595
02:18:03,159 --> 02:18:06,559
us of not real things. That represents less than ten

1596
02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:12,559
percent of what a SYOPS unit actually does. Right, So

1597
02:18:12,840 --> 02:18:16,600
our whole conception of what a SYOP is is less

1598
02:18:16,639 --> 02:18:24,360
than ten percent of what psychological operations soldiers, right, and

1599
02:18:25,079 --> 02:18:28,639
operatives are actually doing. Do you know what ninety percent

1600
02:18:29,520 --> 02:18:35,360
of their time, energy, and resources is spent on sewing

1601
02:18:35,440 --> 02:18:42,159
discord and creating infighting in a target group. It's what

1602
02:18:42,399 --> 02:18:45,920
ninety percent of SYOPS is on the ground. Right in

1603
02:18:46,159 --> 02:18:50,319
sounds familiar, Yeah, it does, right, because the number one

1604
02:18:51,280 --> 02:19:00,760
priority is to break enemy cohesion right and get the

1605
02:19:01,559 --> 02:19:11,239
various leadership individuals or organizations in an enemy population or

1606
02:19:11,520 --> 02:19:16,000
an enemy fighting force to fight with each other. Because

1607
02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:20,440
when that happens, logistics breaks down, command and control breaks down,

1608
02:19:20,600 --> 02:19:23,920
and most importantly, trust breaks down. Right, If you don't

1609
02:19:23,959 --> 02:19:28,680
trust this part of your outfit, you aren't going to

1610
02:19:28,760 --> 02:19:34,360
be confident that they will resupply you or reinforce you. Right,

1611
02:19:34,479 --> 02:19:37,520
So that completely changes your paradigm of what is possible

1612
02:19:37,600 --> 02:19:43,280
on the battlefield. Right, you won't do certain things. These

1613
02:19:43,479 --> 02:19:50,360
simply swing, creating in fighting and sowing discord. All of

1614
02:19:50,399 --> 02:19:53,840
the second and third order effects of that on the

1615
02:19:53,920 --> 02:20:00,799
battlefield are huge, So much so they it is so

1616
02:20:00,959 --> 02:20:06,000
worthwhile that it represents ninety percent of what psychological operations

1617
02:20:06,120 --> 02:20:10,920
units devote their time to. It's all about infighting. Infighting

1618
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:15,239
is the name of the fucking game. And when I

1619
02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:20,959
see contrived controversies that no one asked for taking over

1620
02:20:21,040 --> 02:20:28,840
the entire discourse, I get suspicious because if I have

1621
02:20:28,920 --> 02:20:31,600
to ask, why the fuck does this matter? And whose

1622
02:20:32,719 --> 02:20:36,360
issue was this prior? Right? Was this like the hobby

1623
02:20:36,399 --> 02:20:40,360
horse of any particular like subset of people. No, it

1624
02:20:40,559 --> 02:20:48,600
wasn't this is suspicious as fuck, and anybody fighting on

1625
02:20:48,760 --> 02:20:54,319
either side of this argument is dumb or disingenuous. This

1626
02:20:54,479 --> 02:21:00,559
is this is an actual sigh up right fucking Brams

1627
02:21:01,719 --> 02:21:06,959
or you know, no planes or Project Blue being convince

1628
02:21:07,040 --> 02:21:12,399
you video like, that's not syops. This is syops. This

1629
02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:13,360
dumb ship.

1630
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's where we should end it.

1631
02:21:26,159 --> 02:21:28,399
Speaker 2: I think so too. Man, it's a pleasure to thank

1632
02:21:28,399 --> 02:21:28,840
you for having me.

1633
02:21:28,879 --> 02:21:33,760
Speaker 1: On always always and let's get let's get back together

1634
02:21:33,840 --> 02:21:38,399
with Astrol and Thomas and uh and Jay real soon

1635
02:21:38,559 --> 02:21:40,719
and pumps all of that out because people are I

1636
02:21:40,840 --> 02:21:45,600
think people are loving that too, So I really like that. Yeah.

1637
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We do a lot of stuff in real time there too.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I think I think panels are

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the way to go, like for like current stuff or

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like stuff that's affected, like stuff like this. A panel

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is perfect for stuff that's a inflicting our guys and

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the scene like right now. Also for planning like objectives

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for you know, anyways.

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Speaker 1: That's something that's something we should definitely get together and

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talk with Thomas about. Yeah, absolutely, because he's gonna have

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a lot on that. All right, Ben, I appreciate you,

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Thank you very much doculated by

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Speaker 2: H.