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even need to do introductions for this guy. What's going on, Stormy?
Speaker 2: How are you doing have to go and Pete happy
to happy to be.
Speaker 1: Back, good man. Let's uh. I think this will finish
it talking about the the Robert Barons of old, and
I think this is the one everybody's waiting for. We're
going to start getting into the specifics of America First.
Speaker 2: And real America first, the.
Speaker 1: Real America first, and what did people actually believe back then?
And we're not even talking about them, We're talking about
what are the common person on the street believe. So
where do you want to start.
Speaker 2: Let's start with the America First Committee. The America First
Committee is a really really interesting thing because we talked
before in previous episodes about the American Liberty League and
the men that made that up, and those men didn't
go away. And you know, we discussed at the end
what it took to stop those men, because it really
was the most powerful men in the country trying to
frankly save the country. And to give you an idea,
at the time that the America First Committee was formed,
it really only had four policy planks. I'll get into
those in a second, but the overarching narrative was to
keep America out of any military intervention in Europe, right
because there was no there was no military action happening
anywhere else in the world. The Pacific hadn't kicked off yet,
And it was announced on the day that lend Lease started.
Right because Roosevelt campaigned just as Woodrow Wilson campaigned, and
these men, that fact was not lost on these men, Right,
like you campaigning on keeping us out of war means
nothing because less than twenty years years ago, well within
the professional lifetimes of these men, right, like, how much
how long does a man usually have in a career,
thirty years, So most of these men were roughly in
the same positions as they were in World War One,
and they remember thirty years ago with Drow Wilson campaigned
on vehement anti interventionism, and his literally his only campaign
slogan was Wilson kept us out of war. And one
of the most famous speeches that FDR gave on the
campaign trail was that he no American, the young man
is going to go off to some foreign land and
die in some foreign conflict. Right the only way that
that would happen is over his dead body. If only
that were true, Because unbeknownst to most of America, but
not unbeknownst to people in elite circles and the halls
of power. Is that Roosevelt was not only planning on
intervening in Europe, but had been since the midway through
his first administration. So like the man, literally, I mean
from the very beginning, Woodrow Wilson was an idiot, right,
Woodrow Wilson didn't run Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow Wilson was a
lot like in his second term, he was a lot
like Joe Biden. And I mean, really, we don't have
TV cameras, but all right, we didn't have TV cameras
back then.
Speaker 1: But you can imagine knowing that his wife, his wife
was was doing a lot of the same things that
Joe Biden's wife was doing, and that Colonel House was
just basically running the show.
Speaker 2: One hundred Who did Colonel How's worked for.
Speaker 1: And worked for the City of London. Yes, Brook work
for the City of London.
Speaker 2: So yes, correct, And there's one hundred percent correct. Literally
just like we see today, it's it's no different. It's
the same interest groups doing the exact same things. I
caught your your interview with Tom Luongo last night, and
I agree with almost everything he says. He knows what
he knows about like the motivators in the financial world.
What he doesn't know is that is that they're roughly paralleled,
or at least his views are paralleled in like the
private defense or private defense industries. And in we'll say,
like it's generally called risk capital, but it's not really
like I mean, VC is risk and yes, we all
know now, I mean some of you guys that have
followed me on Twitter for a couple of years. I'm
suspended right now for being a bad boy. I got
a twelve hour this morning for something like I posted
like a week ago. Somebody was talking about like inheritance tax,
basically the persecutive inheritance tax that England is trying to
throw down on its farmers. Some communists was like, yeah, well,
my guy, this will increase production. You know, how can
you not think it's going to increase production? My guy?
And I guess it's something like, how about I gave
your head in with the rock? Will that increase production?
My guy?
Speaker 1: It seemed it'll make the world a better place.
Speaker 2: Oh god, communists brain splattering. It definitely increases production, and
it sure as shit increases motivation, Like it's a motivated workforce.
But it's the same people again for roughly the same
reasons what happened in nineteen The reason that we had
nineteen twenty nine is because in nineteen twenty nine, there's
for those that don't know, there was a cataclysmic financial crash,
a right like massive that was global. It was the
very first global I can't call it mark the crash
because it was an entire economic crash. It wasn't just
like the stock market. It affected all aspects of socio
political economy, right like you know from It was Wall
Street and Main Street, and it went all the way
around the world really fast because at that point in time,
the reserve currency or the currency of trade was the
pound sterling. And in World War One, we lent our banks,
lent the Brits a tremendous amount of money at the
behest and guarantee of Woodrow Wilson and his administration. Nobody.
Everyone says like the bankers pushed them into Some bankers, yes,
but US bankers not so much. Because at the time,
like Germany was kicking people's assets. So once the Rothchilds
were tapped out and they had to go to America
for capital, like they're good and well getting their ass beat.
So who the fuck wants to lend to a like,
would you lend a bunch of money to the Ukrainian
government right now?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Now, not at all. The only way that like JP
Morgan is extending a huge line of credit is if
you know the goat, like the you know, pharmaceutically animated
corpse of Joe Biden, you know, holds a gun to
his head. That's the only way that's happening, because it's
just happening the other way. So obviously, the Brits did
not pull out of World War One, okay, and the
reparations money that they tried to get from Germany couldn't
come in fast enough to cover the interest on all
the sovereign debt, and the pound blew up and England defaulted,
and a lot of our banks defaulted because basically the
Brits just stipped everybody, and you had the Great Crash
of nineteen twenty nine, which basically ended the American Golden Age.
So it was actually the sins of World War One
coming home to roost that ended America's Golden age. Everyone says, oh,
the stock market was just unrealistically high. It kept on
going up and up and up. Yeah, as Mark Andriesen
on Joe Rogan or any other one of his appearances
will tell you like, yeah, innovation does that innovation creates
value out of nothing. Sorry Libertarians and Austrians, right, Like,
an economy is not a thing that lives in a vacuum.
And for it to exist in a vacuum, which it
does have to under the tenets of really either Keynesian
or Austrian economics. The only room inside this vacuum bubble
is for buyers and sellers making entirely rational decisions for
the purpose of getting a the highest price and be
the most value depending on what side of the transaction
you're on. And these are the only people that are
allowed inside this vacuum. And that's not real. Do we
think that? What do you think, Pete? What would you
say influences oil markets today more the rational decisions of
buyers and sellers, right, Going about price discovery in a
free market or the geostrategic needs of Vladimir Putin, Well.
Speaker 1: I would assume the geostrategic needs of Ladimir Putin. But
then you look at the price of oil in the
last six months to a year and you're like, why
is it stayed pegged somewhere?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pegged, right, that's that's that's a choice word
in the beginning of the Ukraine War. Enough take a tangent.
But for those of you that don't remember Janet Yellen, uh,
you know what I mean, like when on tour, like
you know, when they don't really let that troll on
TV mud for good reason, for good reason. She is horrific.
She's a horrific human being. And that's just not that's
not because any ethnic animosity I may have, or my
preference to Anglo Saxon Ubermensch and old stock American Jerome Powell,
but just because she is very dumb. Her PhD thesis,
she's an academic and has never actually worked in the
real world, was on labor theory of economics. Labor theory
of economics is also known as literal Marxism, not like
the pretend Jane Loss Lindsay kind or the pretend Boomer conkind,
but actual kind. Her husband is the world's foremost Marxist economist.
If such a fucking ludicrous thing could exist out of Berkeley,
I believe, or Stanford, I can't remember which, But she
tried to impose a eighty dollars oil price gap to
stick it to Putin, and the Europeans like, yeah, it's
a good idea, We're going to do a price gap.
And then people in the market were like, this is
a terrible idea. This is really, really dumb. You should
never ever ever talk about this again and never talk
in public again, and then just kind of disappeared. But
yet we have what is Russia. Russia's like, what eighteen
percent of global production? No, I think it's more than that, right,
it's gotta be more than that oil. Yeah, I'm thinking
like oil, and we'd have to include that gas, right,
but yeah, it's it's massive. It's at least twenty percent
of the market percentage. Sorry guys going on my keyboard, Wow.
Speaker 1: Are you getting twelve twenty global oil?
Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve percent of global oil, twenty one percent of
global energy.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's incredible. Well that's another reason why the
United States can put a put sanctions on them, even
blow up their pipeline, and they're still fine. I mean
the Rubles, the rubles crashing now, and people think that
that's like, oh, we're taking them out. How many times?
Is how many times we have crashes here, come on,
stop it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Ruble crash, I mean it was bound
to happen, just like you know, that's like everyone's like, oh,
bitcoin's crashing now as it goes from like one hundred
to ninety, Like they forget the up from eight thousand
part which was like five years ago. Yeah, but you know,
oil makes up forty five percent of the Russian Russian
federal budget, so oil redues, so they thought that they could,
you know, do this, But so we're going to sanction
the largest oil one of the largest single oil producers
in the world, and the largest single one of the
largest single oil producers in the world is currently at
war with its neighbor, and the pipeline infrastructure runs through
that neighbor. But yet oil doesn't move. And then what
happens next is last year we have war in the
Middle East, where I don't know, I'd say fifty percent
of global energy comes from. So that's some total of
what we're at. Seventy percent of global energy production in
those two nations, in those two areas.
Speaker 1: And only because we haven't opened it up here.
Speaker 2: Yes, but so seventy percent of the world's oil market
is technically on fire, right, and oils and they're and
they're blowing up pipelines and they are you know, downing
oil tankers with drones. So we haven't seen oil move
past seventy This defies all credibility. Like this is yeah,
the oil market is rigged, but rigging something is expensive.
It's really expensive, and it's a good microcosm for what
Like the one thing like l Loongo talks about with
the euro dollar system is that he doesn't talk about
what it does and why it's so pernicious, which I
think is very important. So basically what the Europeans and
this is why I'm actually not upset that their pipeline
uploaded up. Fuck them. You don't get America paying for
your entire national defense and you go buy oil from
someone else. Buying our energy is the least they should
be doing. I'm sorry, euro Bros, but it's true, Like
you can't even contribute two percent of your GDP. In fact,
for the large portion of the history, less than one percent.
And at the same time, you're basically expecting us to
foot the bill for the largest single line item budget
item on the federal government, and it should be the
largest single line item on any government. You expect us
to pay for that, and then you also want to
just buy oil from the person that we are paying
to defend you from. It wasn't for us, like Russia
could just take you. It's I am. I know it's
an unpopular take, but when you put it next to
the fact that, yes, America blew up the pipeline, where
the Brits actually blew up the pipeline and America didn't
really care that they did because fuck them. So in
the rare instance, I kind of agree with James Joe Biden,
Donald Trump, and Victoria Newland, but yeah, America didn't blow
up that pipeline. Sorry, bro, I know there's tons of
euro guys that'll tell you about how it had to
be America, And I'm sorry for the tangent, Pete. But
the very first person, yeah, the very first person to
announce the the detonation of the nerd Stream pipeline, who
is he? It was on Twitter, the Polish Secretary of Defense.
He posted a picture of the gas bubbling up from
the C floor and it said thank you America. What
a fucking odd thing to say, right, I why would
you say that? How would you say that publicly? Like, okay,
let's say America did do it and a defense minister
of a NATO country takes to social media to rat
out the United States to the world, What did we
do to Julie Massange? What do we try to do
to Snowden? And you're gonna like fucking breathe oxygen in
a sphere of US control, Like you shouldn't be drawing breath.
I mean that made absolutely no sense to me, all right,
Like nobody that fucking airs out US secrets like that,
especially secrets of US misdeeds, will continue to draw breath.
If the US has anything to say about it.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you can get away with doing stuff
like yeah, you know you can get away with doing
stuff like that if Joe Biden as president. It's the
same way you can get away with invading another country,
you know, basically knowing it's going to draw US into
it if you know that the people there's no one
in charge.
Speaker 2: Yes, possibly, yeah, I can totally agree with that. I
can totally agree with that. But this Polish defense minister
is a very interesting human being, besides being married to
one an apple Bam. I thought you'd like that he is,
and this will be breaking news on the Peak Quanona Show,
because I don't think I've heard anybody else say this,
at least in our spheres. So this Polish defense minister
is and nobody, an absolute nobody. He's a poor, unimpressive,
unacademically gifted on collegial sports, gifted human being, a really
mediocre person. But somehow this poor Polish nobody gets a
full ride to Oxford. Strange. It gets stranger while at Oxford.
His first year at Oxford, he gets invited to join
the Bullingdon Club. Do you know what the Bullingden Club.
Speaker 1: Is, Pete, No, that I do not know.
Speaker 2: The Bullingdon Club is like Scull and Bones if it
was somehow more secret and more exclusive, because it is
both of those things. I believe it's five members a year,
so four years. At any moment time, there's twenty members,
and you have to be which call it them. Your
invitation has to basically be like chaired by one person
or sponsored by one person, and then agreed on by
all all every other member of every including not just
the freshman class but all the other members, but the
class of people, so that it would be like those other
five guys. The other four guys are going to really
be the determining factor of you know who the next
person is going to be in their great year? Do
you know who that person was that that vouched and
sponsored him? Because it's and it's not something you can
apply for, it's something that you have to be just
picked right. One young Boris Johnson. H Who else was
in the Bollingdon Club, the freshman year Bolingdon Club, Well,
that would be one David Cameron, current Secretary of Defense
or whatever their equivalent of Secretary of Defenses. I can't remember.
There's one other one I can't remember. Some of their
famous politocrat in Britain was the third one, and magic
number four was Lord Natty Rothschild. Natty Rothschild owns that
other pipeline that went online the exact same day that
Nordstream blew up. Probably didn't nobody probably heard about it.
It's a big pipeline, but I mean the news kind
of gets drawn, you know, drowned out by you know,
a pipeline being exploded by a foreign actor, and it
kind of takes all the air out of the room.
But it runs from Norway to Poland. It's one of
the umbrella companies of the same group that does Genie Energy.
You may have heard of Genie Energy.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about Genie Energy. It's a roth
child they there. I think they're Golan Heights. I think
they they control the oil production and on the Golan Heights.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they tried to also propose south stream. They
also have Dick Cheney on the board. Interesting and Donny
rum and the late great Donnie Rumsfeld. Yeah, they were
a big deal in Iraq War days. But anyways, these
they were trying to do something called south stream. So basically,
the US didn't go into Iraq for oil, and it
didn't go to Iraq for Israel. It went to Iraq
for Israel and oil for Israel. There we go. But
all the all of the ship libs at the time
were correct that it was blood for oil, just not
oil for US. US net oil imports decreased after the
Iraq War. But a country that has no natural resources
of any kind outside of human capital, but that is arguable,
it is of arguable value. Suddenly is the seventh largest
energy exporter. Israel doesn't have any natural gas or oil
under its ground. The Holy Land is not that holy
when it comes to energy independence. But Iraqi kurdistand right
next door does. And that's who was firing his missiles at.
Remember when we invaded Yep, he was supposedly mad at
the Katari's right or sorry the was it Qatar? K kuwaitis?
How come we didn't fire any of those missiles scud
missiles into Kuwait? Was it really Kuwait that was stealing
his oil? I don't know, but I know after he
was thrown out of power, the country that he fired
missiles at stole all his oil and now exports it.
They have a thriving energy industry now seventh largest in
the world. Amazing, completely non existent. Anyways, it's head back.
Speaker 1: We're we're gonna have to get back to the twenties
at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's that I'm back to America. First committee, So,
speaking of Skull and Bones, it was founded at Yale
Law School. One of the men that were it was
a part of it. Just to get you an idea
of who made up these fine gentlemen. You had a
young Gerald Ford and a one Potter Stewart, future Supreme
Court judge, and the main policy point was to keep
America out of war in Europe. The founding of the
America First Committee happened after the defeat, largely on the
continent of the other European powers. Right, so the Battle
of Britain England getting its ask kicked in the air
had already been underway for two months. At this point,
lend Lease had just been announced and everybody started to
see the setup. Right, everybody tries to say that Charles
Limberg was a Nazi sympathizer. I would say he's a
Nazi respector only because of having toured there and seeing
their capabilities, right as in like the same way I
respect Russia. I don't love Russia. I'm not sympathetic to Russia,
but they have more nukes than we do, and apparently,
as of like last month, they have new ways of
delivering those missiles or sorry, those warheads. So I respect
their military capability. And that's basically what Lindberg that was
his opinion as well. But what about Stormy. But what
about the pictures, the pictures of mister Charles Lindberg with
Hermann Gurring and he was awarded the uh what is it?
The Iron Cross? I can't remember the metal Thomas seven
seven seven somewhere is chimping at me. I'm sorry, Thomas,
keep going.
Speaker 1: I'll look it up.
Speaker 2: But why was he in there? Why was he in Germany?
Because he was living in Britain at the time after
his son was murdered suspiciously. His infant son was called
a crime of the century. All right, well he was.
He was in Germany at the behest of the State Department, sorry,
the War Department, and at the explicit invitation of the
US embassy in Germany for the purpose of gathering intelligence
on Reich air power and aircraft production. Herman Gerin is
an aviator. Charles Lindberg was the most famous aviator in
the entire world times like one hundred. He was like Elvis.
People got trampled when he landed in Paris, right, there
were so many people rushing the airfield, which is a
pretty fucking wide open space, not exactly crowded, and twenty
people were still crushed to death there. It's estimated a
really good book to read if you can get your
hands on it. It is hard to find, but you know,
let me pull it up. It is written by the
the Aid de camp of one of America's most famous ambassadors,
former Governor of Ohio Myron t. Herrick. The book is
titled Myrone t Herrick, Friend of France and Auto Biographical
Biography and was written after his death. I mean, this
guy's uber famous at the time. The French actually put
him on their currency. I think it's like the five
franc piece. I can't remember for many years, a whole
bunch of streets named after him, including the one that
the US embassy is on currently, and a bunch of
statues all over the place. Basically, he was the only
ambassador that didn't run away when the Germans in World
War One were literally miles outside of Paris. It looked
like everyone expected the Germans to be to capture Paris
within a month. I mean, the government had already made
plans to evacuate, and mister Herrick didn't be like going anywhere.
So he got a bunch of howitzers and some gatling
guns and a hundred marines and turned the embassy into
a fortress and was like, fuck you, I'm not going anywhere.
And the French loved him for that. He won the
he was awarded the Legion of Honor whatever. He was
the guy that received Lindberg in the landing of the
super famous flight. So his account of what the public
he was also Lindbergh's. It was the first that those
two had met, and he would later Lindberg would become
the political protege of Myron. So if you want to
know about Myron, or so if you want to know
about Lindberg and his political worldview and where it came from,
Myron is probably the place to start. But yeah, this
was probably the biggest event to happen in Paris in
one hundred years as far as like individuals coming to
see a specific event that wasn't you know, like beheading
or you know, something like that. It was the biggest
like public spectacle, and he was the most popular man
in the world. Charles Lenberg was so Herman Gerring like
jumped out of his chair when the ambassador was like,
I think I could probably get mister Charles Lindberg to
come over, because at this point in time, you know,
the Germans were not doing so bad in the Battle
of Britain and generally on the continent were viewed as unstoppable.
So a very famous German fighter pilot gets a chance
to show off all his new toys and the military
might of a now strong Germany to the most famous
pilot in the world. Of course, absolutely right, And so
what if the War Department, you know, who cares that
the Americans learn how strong we are or see how
many planes we crank out? I get to hang out
with like I don't know if he was Gurring's idol,
but the excitement like Gurring like it took him home,
like showed him his house. He was super The pictures
of Gurring and Lindbergh are very very funny as far
as like how excited and kid in the candy store
Gurring looks. It's it's pretty, it's pretty awesome. But he
was awarded what's called what's the did you find the
name of that medal?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Service Cross of the German Eagle.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah. Nobody, including Lindbergh and everybody else at that dinner,
was expecting to get an award. Gurring kind of surprised everybody,
and of course a bunch of pictures were taken, and
a very hostile press took this. And I believe because
his associations and his intimacies with Henry Ford Edison and
Myron Myron Herrick, Myron Herrick is also a besides the
governor of Ohio. He was a big wig in Republican
Party politics and is the primary reason what is it
Calvin Koolidge was that I'm trying to think. I think
it was Calvin Kolich. I think because I'm blanking on this,
but was a big reason that the Republicans had won
the White House prior to FDR. No. Herbert Hoover there
we go. Fuck Jesus. Also the same man who gave
FDR his start in politics and recounted often how it
was the greatest mistake of his life. But he made
the deal, which you'll find in that book to give
a position to a young Francis Dilano Roosevelt at the
was it the under Secretary of the Navy. It wasn't
Secretary of the Navy. He was the guy right below it,
second in charge of the Navy at the time of
World War One, And in his memoirs he says specifically
he made he was forced to make the deal, all right,
to get Herbert Hoover in right at the caveat of
appointing FDR who a vehement Democrat at that point and
an insane appointment for a Republican administration to make. But
he said that was the deal that he had to
make with mister Bernard Baruch. He says, uh, he says,
the I can't remember what he what, what words he used,
but a lot of derogatory words we probably shouldn't shouldn't
say on YouTube if this has gone on YouTube. But anyways, Uh,
mister Iron was not a fan. But basically he Lindberg's
associations had raised a lot of eyebrows of a certain group.
And when that photo with Gurring was taken the very
next week, it was on the front page of the
New York Times, calling him a Nazi sympathizer, right saying
he was going there because he loved the Nazis so much,
And that is the narrative to this day in the
entire time he was asked to go there by his country.
He would later go on to serve his country several
more times, except under far riskier circumstances. Also, while a
majority of the country's media was decrying him as a
trader and a Nazi, neither of those allegations. The fact
that they were coming from the halls of power and
literally out of the mouth of the President of the
United States of America. I was thinking about this the
other day, right, if Joe Biden made a point to
where he was every time he got on the radio
or the television, I was talking about, how much of
a trader in a scumbag, Stormy Waters is if all
the newspapers in America were calling me a trader in
a scumbag, and this idiot president decides to stumble us
into on purpose or in ignorance, stumble us into war
with Russia, a war that was easily avoidable, and a
war that eighty percent of the country by far more now,
but let's just say eighty percent of the country, because
that number is going to come back in a little bit,
eighty percent of the country oppose, right, So a war
that the American people don't want, and a war that
was a war of choice for a small, privileged, powerful
group of people in the American government, the deep state,
whatever you want, whatever term you want to use, or
through whatever lens you want to use. Right, it is
undeniable that the conflict we find ourselves in with the
ancient Russian people and the country that is over a
thousand years old, is one entirely by choice. And a
choice that was not made by the people that would
end up fighting it. But let's just say that happened,
and Joe Biden at the same time telling America and
all the newspapers telling America that Stormy Waters is a traitor.
Would I have the the commitment to my nation and
what detonation is currently and what it once was. If
I would have the decent, calmness of soul too basically
not be moved by any of any of the negative
comments being made by the president or the media, and
I would serve my country in a war that I hated,
an a war that I didn't support, and an a
war that most of America didn't support, including the men
fighting it. Would I have the courage and temerity to
do that. I don't know if I would, but he did.
And that's the type of American you're top to hate.
Just typing Charles Lindberg into YouTube or into your podcatcher
of choice, and you will see hundreds, literally hundreds of
resentful little people that have never sacrificed anything in their life,
know no hardship, suffered, none telling us how much of
a Nazi, how much of an anti Semite, how much
of a horrible person this man is. And what's even
funnier is that his service was secret, right, as in,
he would get no credit, no newspaper or whatever report
that Charles Lindberg is in fact not a trader and
in fact fighting for America in a warplane as we speak.
He's in fact not a trader. Nobody was ever going
to know that, and he knew that at the time,
So it's not like he was doing it to try
and get out of the allegations of being called a trader.
He was doing it again, here's that word that we
don't see anymore. He was doing it because he felt
the sense of duty. His nation was at war, so
therefore he was going to fight its enemies, whether he
got credit for it or not, no matter what the
media said about him, no matter what the fucking President
of the United States in the White House at the
time said about him. So it was published twenty five
years after he left, or basically after the war was over,
because that's about the amount of time that he could
get in trouble for releasing classified information, which you know
at the time that he was doing it his combat
missions into Japan, and we don't know but there is
a lot of suspicion that he took part in the
Doolittle raids. But what we do know is that this
man flew one hundred and eighty six combat hours in
the Pacific. That is about three times as much as
a typical combat airman would see over their tour of duty.
And nobody was going to know about it. Nobody was
going to he was He wasn't going to come home
and no longer be called a trader. He was going
to come home and still be called the trader, and
no one would know what he did or that he
in fact wasn't a trader. It was illegal, against the
law for him to tell anybody what he did, and
he still did it. And I don't know when I
think about that feat, I don't know if I would
be that brave. I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a difficult choice to make, especially
when you when you look at the way they they
treat people and the way they hound people. And even
back then, I mean McCarthy, McCarthy was already a drunk,
you know, when all the hearings started and everything. But
you know, what they did to him just drove him
to drove it and drove him to drink that much more,
you know, So it's not you know, people have a
tendency to believe because we're in this information age and
things can get out over the internet and it split
second that you know, back then it would be harder
to slender someone. Well, not when everybody's reading the newspaper,
and not when the newspapers are you know, all printing
the same thing. Yep, and they're controlled and they're being
told what's what's a print? Yeah?
Speaker 2: For the radio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they drove people. They they drove people to become
pariah's is just as much as they do it.
Speaker 2: Nowadays, even more so because at least on the Internet
you can post and you could say no, this is
not true at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But we also had a more We also had
a more moral society back then, so people leapt to
their morality a lot quicker, and they took their morality
a lot more seriously. So if they thought somebody was
treeson us or something like that, and that meant something
to them, it's not thrown around, you know like we
like most people do today.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean Tucker Carlson. It's called the trader,
I mean Donald, We've thought the president of the United
States was a trader and an active Russian spot. I mean, like,
they just throw these words around like they don't mean anything,
but back then you were one hundred percent right. These
words meant things, which makes them all that more pernicious
about how they were being thrown around because the progressive
I hate to even call it the fucking New Deal, right,
or the New Deal regime, the New Deal administration, right,
because that's not what the men at the time fighting
what FDR was doing to the country thought. And the
last episode I did with you, Pete, we read some
of the speeches that were given by the head of
the Democratic Party and former presidential candidate Al Smith and
what he thought the New Deal was. And he had
just gotten FDR elected, so it obviously wasn't going Basically
what he was told was going to happen in the
FDR administration did not happen if something else happened instead.
So like I hate to even call it the New
Deal regime, because the men at the time saw it
as communism being driven by a foreign group of people,
both within and without and from without. So the entire
New Deal regime came kind of crashing down on the
on him and pretty much all of the other men
that stood up to it. And now, like, none of
the hell that we live in day would be possible
if it wasn't for this, And you could say like,
oh yeah, you know there were still subversives and you know,
oh yeah, this group has been in here doing all
this other bad stuff for a very long time. Look
at the Schofield Bible, but nothing nothing like the fucking
New Deal. It's fundamental. It was a it was a
revolution no different than seventeen seventy six, as it fundamentally
changed the governance structure and the relationship the dialogue between
American citizen and his government forever. And I hate to
bring up Mark Andresen again, but he's a really smart guy.
I h I respect that guy a lot. But I
don't think anybody, even in our spheres that know how
pernicious the regime has I don't think. I think what
he said on that Joe Rogan interview came as a
surprise to most people. It came as a surprise to me.
And I fucking think about the shit every day. I'm
pretty smart, Like the level of persecution at like a
granular level was just shocking to me. And like the
the fact that like Elizabeth Warren has her own attack
agency that not only isn't in the constitution anywhere, but
isn't accountable to anybody because she's a senator, she has
no authority to have an agency, but she does so.
Like the agency isn't supposed to exist. You can't sue it,
and you certainly can't stop it. You can't like call
up a number and talk to a manager that like
there's no you're just being it may as well being
It may as well be persecution from a demonic entity. Right.
It's just know this persecution that is happening everywhere, all
at once, and you can't figure out where it's coming from.
There's no way to put your finger on it, to
get a hold of what's you know, what's afflicting you.
There's no you know, command structure that you can air
your grievances with. It's just insane. And all this came
from the New Deal. And I don't think he, I
don't think we. I think we've become a little bit
hyper focused on a specific, a specific aspect of the regime,
and we kind of miss We sometimes missed the meta
you know of it all right, like the thing in
its entirety. But anyways, if it wasn't, if it was
anybody else besides Charles Lindberg, I think they would have
been sunk because his popularity, like I said, was hard
to describe or hard to contextualize in modern times anyways,
because like, yeah, there's famous people, but there's also so
many famous people and people that are famous in all
these different ways, and there's all these really like different niches.
But like Pete to what you were talking about about,
how there really was only newspaper and radio, and if
you controlled those things, you literally controlled the entire public dialogue. Right.
No one was you know, getting finding new bands on SoundCloud.
The only music you were exposed to, the music that
was shown to you, the only news that you were
exposed to. Your whole conceptual your whole conceptual reality, all right,
and this is this is public consensus. Reality was dictated
through two business verticals, radio and print media. That's it.
You had total paradigm control, at least they thought. So,
you know, when someone becomes very well known like in
those days, like it was kind of similar in the
sixties kind of, but there was no like thriving subcultures
or anything like that. So if you think of how
popular the Beatles were, Charles Lindberg was more popular.
Speaker 1: I think I think I a better maybe a stronger astronauts.
Oh yes, like like Neil Armstrong, yeah, yes, as Aldron, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah. These So these were celebrities and
national heroes at the same time as well as international
sensations like and being an astronaut was like quite literally
like being in the Beatles, like you were that like
you were getting pussy that easy. And if if the
if the Astronauts happened to have uh you know, been
on stage a lot, which they luckily they hadn't, I'm
sure panties would have been thrown at them as well.
But yeah, so luckily Charles Lindberg was popular. He had
a voice, and he could he had really good advice.
So the way he spoke was very much the way
Donald Trump speaks. Also, in that book by Ambassador mister Myron,
he talks about like he heard Charles's speech and was
like it was so natural that it was like he
was just he was basically just saying the whatever was
on his mind like as it came into his mind,
like very very much like Donald Trump. And Myron recounts
how he's like to the average you know, uninitiated observer,
what he's doing looks very very easy. But to an
experience public speaker or rhetorician, like he was like a prodigy,
was Charles Limberry Like you know, it wasn't taking like
public speaking class like he just was a fucking natural,
very much like Trump is. And he spoke in a
I urge everyone to listen to I know, kind of
like the Hitler AI translation speeches are going viral, which
is great. I think that's awesome because if everybody, if anybody,
still thinks that national socialism was about, you know, just
hating Jews or you know, global conquest or any of
the you know, American secular state religion belief structures, the
second you hear know Adolph Hitler speaking and what he's
speaking about, all that goes away immediately. Like if you
replace the word Germany, that could have been any America,
like that could have come out of Donald Trump's mouth. Well,
not so much Donald Trump, because he he seems to
like or be comfortable with our media environment, right probably
because he's so good at playing them for fools, like
he literally fucking lives not just lives in their head,
rent free, like he owns them, like they're they're so
reactive to him. He basically puppeteers them. But outside of
outside of that, all of the other aspects of the NSDAPS,
you know, policy positions, it's I think it's it's twenty planks.
You would want any US politician to be saying the
exact same thing, and you're like, oh, maybe this was
about something different. I urge everyone to look up the
uh it's called the des Moines, Iowa speech, right, so
Charles Lindbird on September the eleventh, nineteen forty one in
Des Moines, Iowa is a speech I'm gonna I forgot.
I can't because I'm I'm in the time out box.
I would post it to Twitter, but when I'm allowed
back on Twitter, I will I will do that. Or
anybody that's listening, any of the early listeners, thank you
for you know, supporting one of the best guys in
our sphere with your money. Like the thing that matter
is mister Pequinona's But yeah, if you get access to
this early and you know it comes out quickly. Just
just start dropping that speech on your timeline. People need
to hear it. It's that good, it really is. And
that'll give you a really good idea about what America
First was about. And I'll leave some stuff out so
the man himself can tell you because I think it'll
be better that way. But what he did say what
caused outright insanity And if the press hated him before,
but again, so we say the press hated him and
FDR hated him were vehemently denouncing him. It was very
much like a Donald Trump phenomena where all of the
consensus media and consensus policy you know people, and the
you know, important people all one hundred percent agree that
Donald Trump is the worst and the kind of you know,
the vast already of the country is like, yeah, we
don't give a shit, we think he's great. Eighty percent
of America supported America First. It's policy positions of non interventionism, right,
So eighty percent of the country was against any type
of military involvement, whether it be logistical support, arms support,
and most of all, you know, troops on the ground.
Eighty percent of the country was isolationists. They say isolations
like it's a bad thing, like these bad isolationists. Yeah. Sorry,
access to my nation's wealth isn't a fucking human right.
Access to my prosperity and the most valuable things in
my name, which are farmers boys in Iowa, bricklayers kids
in New England, right, and farmers sons in the South,
and some electricians kid on the West coast. That's America's
most valuable resource, and access to it is not a
human right. Isolationism is probably the most noble thing that
we can do, because, frankly, no other nation has the
right to American blood. I don't care if your nation
has the right to exist or whatever. I don't care.
You're not my people. I don't give a shit about you.
Speaker 1: Well, it also it also shows respect for other people's cultures.
We're not going to walk with you. Yes, you get
to have you get to have your culture. You get
to have whatever you have. Don't fuck with us, you know,
if you want to, if there's something you want to trade,
we'll have a talk. If not, you know, God bless,
don't fuck with us. Yeah, but if you But apparently,
if they move here illegally and then they subvert the nation,
they subvert the culture, they subvert the government, they subvert everything. Well,
that's okay, and.
Speaker 2: They don't fight. No, ninety eight percent of combat arms
just happens to be one ethnic demographic. Ninety six percent
of combat arms moss sorry, ninety one percent like that,
And the special forces, I think it's eighty percent high eighties.
In the regular the broader, Marine Corps and army, it's
white boys. It's white American boys. That's who does the fighting.
So I don't care how smart your Indian friend is.
I don't care how nice your Venezuelan housekeeper is. I
don't give a fuck. I don't care if they came
here legally. I don't care if they flew here on
wings they grew on their backs. Don't fucking care because
they don't fight, and who fights, well, patriots fight, So
I guess they didn't assimilate, did they. I guess they
really don't share our values, do they, Because they don't fight.
They won't fight for those values, so therefore they don't
have them. Because you only believe something if you're willing
to die for it. Anything else is a fucking hobby.
And these people don't fight, so they don't believe, So
they don't share your values. They don't share your beliefs.
Is via a dramaswami. Is he gonna so you gonna
pick up a gun? Is he gonna go fight? I
don't think he is? Is? What was that Chinese motherfucker
Alex Wang? Was it? Wang was running for office? Is
he gonna pick up a gun? Is he gonna fight? No,
he's not, because he doesn't believe. And nobody has the
right to have young iow with farm boys trying to
stuff their guts back in their stomachs as they scream.
Speaker 1: Because a certain group in nineteen thirty three decided that
they were they didn't even have a country, and they
decided that they were going to declare war upon a nation.
And a nation is not a country. A nation is
a people.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a race. Culture is ethnic, culture is genetic.
Culture is racial. So they didn't have enough men to fight.
So how are they going to fight this war that
they just declared. They're not exactly a fighting people, as
mister Nettan Yahoo is finding out right now because he
can't get a certain subset of those people to fight.
They refused to much.
Speaker 1: There's such a non fighting people. They're such a people
that doesn't fight that in their own country. They have
to have mandatory draft because.
Speaker 2: No one would join. You can tell who's who believes
something by who is willing to die for it. And
October eighth of twenty twenty three, was it one fifth?
One fourth of that population went to the airport on
one way flights. So whose land is it?
Speaker 1: You know, It's funny when I when I moved to
after high school, when I moved down to South Florida,
it was described to me. They were like, you know,
it's the one thing about South Florida is you know,
you're going to find out that it's very transient. I
didn't really understand what that meant. Yes, you're I dodn't
understand what that meant until years later, when you know,
when I learned other terms like rootless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or cosmopolitans at literally everyone from Florida's from somewhere else,
particularly South Florida. South Florida's like this, and really anything
south of Palm Beach is you know, West tel Aviv
or North Cuba or North Hadi or North Puerto Rico
or or or or Western Russia or now western Ukraine.
The South Florida's is a fucking mess. I can't wait
to get out of here. Luckily, I live in the
last bastion of you know, wasp culture and wasp demographics.
But I'm sure that's about to change sooner or later.
The population of Florida has tripled since COVID. It just
it doesn't agree with my cultural soul. Florida is an
ugly place. It really is. I don't fucking like the beach, okay,
so what else is there to look at? Nothing? It's flat,
and it's either swarm South.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the true South, the Midwest where people actually put
down roots. That's that's what America was, funny.
Speaker 2: That's the only place where men that fight come from,
men that are going to be torn apart by sharks
in the middle of the Pacific, slowly bleeding out on
a beach that they can't pronounce. In Europe, that's where
those men come from, and those are the only men.
I find it very interesting that make up our sphere,
not too you know, fire shots or whatever. I'm not
going to I am a New Englander. That's where I
was born and raised, and my family has been since
the sixteen forties. But when it comes to like people
in our thing. I find like the people from New
York no offense, that still live there, that choose to
live there in the city, are all just wearing our
thing around like a skin suit, like a Fendi handbag
or you know some louisvuiton Duffel bag where you know,
name a shoe. Right, it's a fashion accessory. It's the
it's the edgy, transgressive thing, right, it's fun to talk
about doing a racism. They don't believe any of the things,
so few of them. I've met a precious few from
New York City that believe what I believe, did the
degree that I believe right with the acceptance of the
possibilities and externalities that could one day show up at
my door for believing what I believe. There are a few,
and I love them very much. But for the most part,
same thing with LA. It's just a fashion accessory. They
like to say the transgressive thing. They like to be
seen as transgressive. But that's it. There will never be
anything more than that. That's why you gotta both, you know,
be a right wing edge lord. But at the same time,
don't let anybody say anything mean to our trans friends.
Or anyways. I just find it so hilarious that they
somehow believe that they take that this is their thing
and where along for the ride. But nothing could be
further from the truth. I find it offensive, like to
the highest degree, like it. It's the insolence that gets me.
But the men that like those, they're no different than
the people that had added to the international terminal at
Bengurian Airport October eighth, Right, because if you ever make
a move to actualize any of your beliefs, it'll be
people like that that stop you. It'll be people like
that that stab you in the back, because if you
ever seek to make it a real world reality, it's
no longer fun, it's no longer transgressive, it's no longer
pretend you're ruining it is what you're doing by making
any steps towards actualizing any of the things that we
believe that they say they believe. But it seems that
when we make moves towards bringing or convictions into or
concrete reality, they screech and holler like I am tearing
up that Fendi handbag or I am pouring bleach over
that Chanelle sweater, whatever, because I'm ruining their fancy fashion accessory.
They wear our heritage and our identity like it is
a fancy dress. And I say dress because turns out
most of you fucking faggots like to wear them, or
like boys that wear them. Nothing right wing about you.
You don't believe anything. It certainly wouldn't die for anything,
not like those men in the Spanish Civil War, did
not like those men in the Battle of Berlin did.
Both of them knew their situation was hopeless in the
Battle of Berlin, not only in their situation, but their
cause and their nation was lost, and they still fought.
And you guys could vetch whenever we actualize any right
wing beliefs outside of the precious view. But I think
we have a problem of people wearing our beliefs as
fashion accessories. And I think that's something that we're teething
we're dealing with right now. I think it's a teething
pain that we're going to have to go through.
Speaker 1: You know, you really can see, like you mentioned the
Spanish Civil War, and you also mentioned is.
Speaker 2: It almost brought me to tears when you're reading it, Pete.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it brought me to tears every time I
read that the the when you look at how the
nationalists handled the Spanish Civil War, so they had it
they I mean, it wasn't it wasn't even like they
had foreign invaders, I mean the technically, but it was
a government they had they had elected, a government was
elected that decided that they were going to this came
out later kill half the country, that they were going
to kill half the people in the country, because.
Speaker 2: I never realized that. I'd never known that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their goal was to kill fifty percent of the
Catholics of the country. So what they When you look
at that and you know and you know that the
only people that fled north to France were the infirmed
and the old getting out of the way of war,
and that they stayed there and fought. It really goes
to show that when you look at Israel and you
just have people hopping over this fence and killing a
bunch of people and taking it and taking some hostages
and then running back, and you know, millions of people
decide they're going to go home. Israel's not a country.
Israel's not a people. It's not a Yeah, it's a
place where people go to have extended vacations to be
around their own, which you're not allowed to do pretty
much anywhere in the West because of a certain group
telling you you're a fascists if you do that. Yeah,
they don't have When you compare that to when you
compare the Spanish and you compare them, there's no there's
no question who the better people are, who the better
breeding is, who the better bloodline is. There's some people
who are going to stay and they're going to fight
for their own not run because they have no because
they have no home. No matter what they say about Israel,
as soon as something goes as soon as something goes wrong,
they no longer have a home. They go to their
other home or there, you know, wherever that may be. Yeah,
these aren't a these aren't a people to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah idolized.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who idolize them. Oh,
I wish we got every state, and we wish we
could have our own ethno state. And it's like, yeah,
when when a couple yeah, when a couple of people
get killed, you know, when when a couple of people
get killed, what happens. Oh, we're gonna we're running home.
We're going to run to Europe. We're going to run
to the United States.
Speaker 2: Okay, the army should have been overflowing. Then the very
next day, the army should have been overflowing, right, just
as every single recruiting station in the country was the
day after nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: The only people in that the only people in that
country who actually give a ship and are willing to
die and willing to kill are the settlers. That's it.
They're the ones who are like, we took this. Fuck you,
we took No matter what you think of that, we
took this. Fuck you. Unleash us, let us go, let
us go kill, let us go kill Palestinians, let us
go kill the enemy. Yes there, I.
Speaker 2: Actually respect them. Yeah, and I understand why they don't
want to fight in the IDEF. I don't fucking blame them. Right,
You got these like if you're on the if you're
on the kibbutz, like you're fucking You're the closest that
one of a cosmopolitan people that have had no roots
could be to one of those Iowa farm boys, right,
or one of those Appalachian coal miners kids. Right, you're
doing work.
Speaker 1: They actually the land what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you're working the land. That's what you're doing,
and a certain type of consciousness comes over you. I
know this because you know, taken to growing food and
a certain amount of peace comes over you tending the
soil like it really does. It clarifies your mind. I
wish all of our leads.
Speaker 1: We were out in the backyard today getting things prepared
for the winter.
Speaker 2: Yep in tune. It makes you in tune with the seasons.
It makes you in tune with your surroundings, and you
bond with the land. That it is a dialogue, and
no one can tell me different. So those people on
those cobuses, their connection to the land is now a
spiritual one. And it seems that that that's funny because
they're willing to die for it. And they also won't
fight with the people that have to be forced to
fight the conscripts. The draftees actually respect that they won't
join the idea that to me isn't the negative.
Speaker 1: Why would true believers want to fight fight besides trans
people and other things? Yeah, yeah, homosexuals and I mean sorry,
but women, Yeah.
Speaker 2: When they when they when they occupied that church in
Lebanon the other day, and uh, the one own that
they could think of on the Christians own and desecrate.
The church was to have a mock gay wedding except
for surprise, the bride or sorry, the groom and the
groom you know, made out at the end of the ceremony.
Super tough guys, Like again, I don't think that's the
own you think it is.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's let's get let's yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: See. Uh. He knows how to get get the most
out of me because I do have to be kept
on topic, especially like that. But so the the guys that.
Briefly we'll talk about who else before we get into
Charles Lindberg's fight with FDR, which basically it became because
being as popular as he was, any radio station would
fall all over itself to get Charles Lindberg on the air.
Advertisers would, you know, pay insane multiples on what they
were normally paying to be either before or after Charles
is a Charles Lindberg speech, right, And it got to
a point where the president's fireside chats, President Roosevelt's fireside chats,
as painful as they are to listen to, I urge
you to start seeking out Charles Limberg's radio appearances or
I guess you can call them like addresses, right, and
then find the FDR fireside chats either immediately after or
immediately before, because these men were addressing the nation ostensibly,
but they were having a debate like tit for tat right.
I mean, it was literally like they were on the
debate stage going at it if you listen to them
in order, and it was a debate that FDR was
losing and Charles was winning. And after the des Moines,
Iowa speech in nineteen forty one when he said FDR
the British race and the Jewish race were pushing the
country into war, that settled it. Seventy percent of the
country at the time. It's not my these are here.
They did the poll. This poll was was page eighteen.
Speaker 1: This one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gallop Gallop nineteen thirty eight, and then Gallup nineteen
thirty nine, nineteen forty Yeah, most of these are going
to be Gallop poles. And there's the Opor surveys, which
I think the organizations now defunct. But sixty eight percent
of the population of America said that Ish race had
too much control over the FDR administration. So it wasn't
just him. In fact, Pete I sent you a book
the other day. What was it called?
Speaker 1: FDR and the shows.
Speaker 2: That's probably why I did remember. It was literally no,
I thought it was yeah, okay, And I remember like
the I remember reading a couple uh paragraphs read like
the forward in the in the introductory chapters of the book,
And basically the purpose of the book was because it's
one of those great things where they do like the
actually it is happening or sorry it's it's actually happening,
but also it's actually a good thing, not a bad thing.
That you know, the the left so famously does so
FDR In modern times, you know, in the late nineties
two thousands, right around like the ken Burns, the suspicious
history documentaries started hitting the air. FDR's memory was starting
to get a lot of flak because he turned down,
or he rejected that boat full of Jewish immigrats that
were fleeing manual labor in Germany, and hey, man, like
you know Africans, I believe or what like lactose intolerant,
some people are some races are labor intolerant. But he rejected,
he basically turned away the ship, right, and that kind
of came back into public consciousness and basically like there
was this you know, narrative going around that it's probably
from some probably from some idiot conservatives. Actually, I guarantee
you it was probably idiot conservatives saying like, you know, oh,
FDR don't you know love the Semites like I do.
In fact, FDR and the Progressives were anti Semites and
that's why they turned away.
Speaker 1: These going always always attacking the left as the oh
they're the real racist or they're the real anti Semites,
and yeah, it's like, okay.
Speaker 2: Sure, it's like that Antioch declaration. I was listening to.
I don't know what the end Ouct declaration is. I
saw a crypto's post about it. Everyone should follow Crypto's
one of the best accounts. I saw his post about it.
But I was listening and I still didn't really understand
what it was or basically on like whose authority it
was issued. And then I was listening to probably the
angriest I've ever heard or in McIntyre just I guess,
just dropped a stream about about this and about how
to handle in you know, disagreements and in fighting inside
your cultural political movement. It was a really good talk,
very angry, which is interesting and refreshing to hear. I
think Aaron should get more angry. Aaron, if you're listening,
I need to lean into that. It's it's good, not
like being angry, it's good. Being angry is not good.
No emotion is good in and of itself. But hearing
him deliver, you know, points like that with with some
anger and hostility in his voice, it makes Aaron hit
much different and in a very positive way. So Aaron
get angrier and preferably right before your streams. But yeah,
it was It's like what conservatives do, man, They go
run to the left to try and cancel you know
guys they don't like on the right, and they anyways,
But yeah, so this book came out to try and
like it was basically like no, no, no. In fact,
the Jewish people in the FDR administration was actually their
relationship so close, in fact, that the public started, you know,
asking a lot of questions and getting very concerned. And
with his third election right around the corner, it basically
became politically untenable for him to accept them because of
all the other good things that he had done for
the Jewish people in his administration thus far, so surprise,
FDR not an anti Semite at all, but was so
philo semitic in fact that it became politically toxic, and
if he had done any more of it, the toxicity
would have been fatal to his third presidential aspirations. So
that's why. And the book that they that I encourage
everyone to read it. I've only just started. But if
it if it keeps on hitting like the injured, like
the intro chapters, I think it's going to be a
really interesting book. But yeah, seventy percent of the country
saw it the way that Lindbergh did that these were
the three interest groups right when I think he says
the FDR administration and FDR personally, he was saying FDR personally,
but the guys that were backing him, backing the America
First Committee, these were the same guys as the American
Liberty League. If you remember my talk about the American
Liberty League in the last episode did with Pete, you'll
get an idea who he's talking about when he says,
like the FDR regime as its own separate interest groups,
because at least from the men that were in power
in industrial, financial, social capital, like that type of power,
even though they weren't in the government because the Progressives,
I'm sorry, the New Dealers. These men saw it as
a political regime that was being puppeteered by Bolshevik Russia,
and there was a lot of good evidence for it.
A lot of that evidence would be confirmed by what
it's called the Venona cables. Turns out like they had
some the Russians had some pretty good encryption tech at
the time and their ciphers. It took like computing power
of like the early two thousands to come around before
we had the ability to bust it open. So I
think the NSA cracked Venona, or at least released announced
that they cracked it and released it, I believe, in
the early two thousands. But surprise, McCarthy was right. And
not only was he right, all of these guys at
the time of FDR were right and were more right
than they even thought they were right. Like our first
lady was literally a CPUSA member, what the fuck like?
Barack Obama isn't a Marxist, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris isn't
a Marxist. But the FDR regime was, the New Deal
regime was at least most of the people in prominent
positions within the administration were and they wanted the US
in World War two real bad, because who is the
other group of people that were withering against the onslaught
brought on by the Wehrmacht or the Luftwaffa. It wasn't
just the British, It wasn't just the Jews. It was
the Soviets, and the Soviets unlike the British their lend lease.
I heard you bring up the other day, Pete, and
I don't think a lot of people know it is
that at the time of the US entry into World
War Two, most of our arms manufacturing weren't manufacturing, weren't
set up for from the very beginning. We're not set
up for and we're not at the time making American calibers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you what, I think the main character
the caliber they were manufacturing was seven sixty two by
fifty four four? Yeah, what's that? What's that for? That's
most in the Gaunt Yeah, other Russian whatever that rifles?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it? The the DPM is that the
one with the plate on top of it. It looks
like a dinner plate or record on the.
Speaker 1: Top of it they care.
Speaker 2: Remember, Yeah, it's like the precursor to the RPD. Yeah. Wait,
is the RPD the fat AK forty seven? Now what's
the what's the seven sixty two? By thirty nine belt
fed that's my favorite. I'm not a PKM respector I
think it's the RPD. I think it's the DPM.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the yeah, the DPM. Maschie was the seven sixty
two let me.
Speaker 2: See thirty nine? Or it was the DPM the No.
Fifty four r Okay, and that's the one with the
h the weird disc magazine. Yep.
Speaker 1: And if you got to Battlefield, Vegas you can rent
one and shoot it.
Speaker 2: Oh Man and FDR you know fed the magazines. That's great, hooray.
It makes me fucking sick. The backers of the America
First Committee were equally as interesting. So they were all
the men that I had previously talked about with the
American Liberty League. Right, But you've an idea of this organization.
It was the largest organization political or otherwise in the country.
It had eight hundred thousand paid members paid. Think about that,
like even today, do you think you know Act Blue
or DSA, or do you think any Democrat let alone
Republican Republican be laughable. But do you think any political
action group in the US has eight hundred thousand paid
members paid? Isn't like they've received a check.
Speaker 1: Well, you don't need that anymore because you have so
many big gigant you know, billionaires willing to fund you that. Yeah,
you don't need that.
Speaker 2: Well you gotta hire I mean, these are people collecting checks,
not submitting them. Oh wow, yeah, insane. Well they also
like like it was also like a union. Their members
also did pay, you know, did contribute, but they don't
actually know how many members. Even the president of the
America First Committee even said, like, I have no idea
how many actual members we have. There was and what
was the population? What was the population in nineteen forty
You have a much less loud keyboard than I do.
I won'st subject the listeners to that population.
Speaker 1: USA was a population one hundred and thirty two million.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, there was over a quarter of a million
America First Committee members in just Chicago. That's huge. Again,
eighty percent of the population not only agreed with the
tenets of the America First Committee, but I would probably
say a majority of that eighty percent back to the
organization themselves.
Speaker 1: So what who want to check? You know, you want
to know what's really interesting about that? So those numbers
that he's quoting, I'm almost one hundred percent positive he
got those from a book called Hitler and Los Angeles,
How Jews Foiled Nazi plots against Hollywood, and in there,
which was written by Stephen J. Ross. In there, they
they actually post these these surveys from the thirties asking people,
you know, do you trust Jews? Do you use it? They? Yeah,
they they I think it was the American Jewish Committee
at the time that was doing those, if I remember
the book correctly, But yeah, those are those had been
long for those numbers have been long forgot until they
decided to write this book to brag about how they
foiled all these Nazi plots.
Speaker 2: Again, do you remember what it said the percentage of
the US population that trusted Jews.
Speaker 1: Trust it was between it was between seventy and eighty
who the trusted.
Speaker 2: Trusted or distrusted don't think either.
Speaker 1: Or well, well, distrusted was between seventy and eighty percent.
That makes about And you can even and I'm on
Amazon right now and like even one of the one
of the reviewers says, but what is it? I found
this book well written and fascinating. I was somewhat amazed
at the strong sense of anti semitism and isolationism that
existed in some of the more progressive areas of America
at the time. I'm concerned that some of this thinking
is raising its ugly head once again in both Europe
and America. This is a review from March seventh, twenty eighteen.
So yeah, they they actually went through those numbers in
this book and just you know, basically told them themselves
that you know, it's like it's one of those things
where you're they do it, all this information that they
do it. It's it's so ridiculous that they do it
all the time. They think that if they put that
out there, that thinking people aren't going to ask questions
like well why why I mean people in this because
you have.
Speaker 2: To think that they think that they're the only ones
that are thinking people. So I don't believe in I
don't believe in all of the all of the Sillier
tropes about you know, their their cartoon representation of in
the figure of Dracula. I mean, yes, you know, I
understand Saint Simon. For Saint Simon. Saint Simon's gonna have it.
We'll have his revenge, I'm sure of it, at least
in Europe. But the fact that the vampire can't see
his reflection in the mirror, I find just so on
the nose that I hate to even cheapen it with
a pun like that. But they're not only incapable of
self reflection, aha, but they're also incapable of seeing themselves
as a broader group, right, So like in that, in
that public bragging, like you would think, like, oh, this
may be a bad idea for us. More broadly, you know,
like there is no there's no reflection at a group
level either, anyways, because the telling on themselves is constant.
It is a constant theme. I find it just deranged.
But some of the fiscal backers that the check cutter
is the big ones. One is Julius Morton, Governor of
Nebraska and US Secretary of ad under. I believe Hoober
he was kind of a big deal in the budding
conservationist movement. Arbor Day exists because of this man. He
made He made his money. I can't remember, I can't
remember I made his money. Somebody should check it out.
I'm sure it's interesting. Another guy was Joseph Patterson. It
was a millionaire at the time, very much of the establishment,
and was founder of the Daily News, which was the
only newspaper talking sense. So everyone, when you go back
in time, and this is the other thing, like our
academics represent the opinions of the American people in past
times by seeing by basically looking in the newspapers, right pete,
Like if they want to see, like what Americans were
saying about a certain thing. But who owns the fucking newspapers?
Speaker 1: Like I have never heard on especially the New York Times?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, who said that? That's the paper record? Who says, uh,
how come I have never how come I and probably
you have never heard of the Daily News the newspaper.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the New York Daily News, are we? Yeah?
I mean New York. You have the New York Daily News,
you have the Post in the New York Post, and
you have the New York Times.
Speaker 2: Let me see, m M. I'd have to go back
and check.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, keep going, it's just the Daily News.
Speaker 2: The founders Joseph Peterson or Patterson, pa double t E. R. S. O. N.
But I had never heard of the Daily News, But
it was the largest newspaper in the country in the
forties and the thirties and the twenties. How have I
never heard of that? And they had had the largest
circulation in the country. How come nobody ever goes and
looks at the Daily News when they're looking through microfilms
about American opinion? Because I just found that out yesterday
and as of now, I am going to start looking
at when I want to look at opinions of the past,
That's what I'm going to look for because almost all
of the historical you know, academic work, right is you
know when they when newspapers are involved, or like you know,
going through archival newspapers, it's always the New York Times
or the Washington Post. But one of the most interesting
backers of America First and a frequent check cutter, was
one John F. Kennedy. So you had Gerald Ford as
one of the founding members, and which I find that
very interesting that he was Nixon's VP choice, right, that's
pretty cool. But anyways, John F. Kennedy would write handwritten
notes because he would always be would put his checks
in envelopes, and on the envelopes each time would be like,
this is the most vital, this is the most vital
effort in the nation. This is the most important effort
or the most important undertaking of the nation. He was
a vehement supporter of America first John F. Kennedy his
father as well, Right, But his father's a business magnate
and a foreign diplomat, right, very similar to like the
Myron T. Herrick types. You know. I think Herrick was
a banker, Yeah, a successful banker, because he's who that
He's the guy who was I think in the in
the very first episode when we were talking about the
very first episode of the Robbert Barons, we were talking
about how Pierpont Morgan was trying to get out ahead
of and stop before it really really really got underway.
Like I think it was like Turkey and some other country,
you know, like this, the the Eastern European countries had
just started, right, and it would later melt over. But
the JP Morgan and Company tried issuing, tried offering very large,
zero interest and forgivable loans to both of the both
of the belligerent nations, and Myron was the it was
orchestrated out of Morgan and Morgan. Grenfeld was the London office.
Morgan and Hodges was the with the Paris office. It
was operated out of the US Embassy in France or
in Paris, France, which was uh that Myron guys operation
and and out of Morgan and Hodges. So I find
it really interesting that like the same guys that tried
to stop World War One are also the same guys
that tried to stop World War two. I don't find
that a coincidence at all. Oh and by the way,
they're also the most financially powerful people and you could
say the most financially literate people in the country. So
sorry libertarians, sorry leftists. Turns out industrialists and bankers don't
want wars, so no wars are bankers wars retards. God,
I hate the sloganeering of libertarians. Their bumper their ideology
is a bumper sticker deep because all of the US
bankers seemed to work very very hard, at substantial personal
risk to themselves and their fortunes to do the opposite
of war. So at least as far as America is concerned,
no wars are bankers wars. And the guy that headed.
The guy that was the first president of the American
First Committee is a really interesting character. So like you're
talking about like the level of American brass top top's.
I guess you could say, like pop ethnic stock of
the heritage American ethnohos. I shouldn't laugh, all right, Daryl
Cooper already spends enough time trying to tell me that
I don't have a people and I don't have a country.
I shouldn't give his silly position any any help. But
he's great on everything else, Daryl Cooper's He's a really
good guy, just wrong about one thing, which is all right,
because a lot of smart guys are usually wrong at
at least one thing.
Speaker 1: Murray Rothbard used to say that you're allowed one deviation.
Speaker 2: Really I like that, Yeah, I think I should be
allowed at least one contradiction or deviation or incoherence. Brigadier
General Robert Wood was the president and chairman of the
America First Committee. I like, you know before this is
this guy's actually really really interesting, right. He was a
successful executive, and he went to West Point and he
served in the Philippines from nineteen oh two to nineteen
oh three. And if you know anything about what happened
in the Philippines, you will understand that this man saw
some shit, like some real horrific stuff. But he retired
in nineteen fifteen and then became the vice president of
DuPont Company and headed operations inside the United States. Right, actually,
just to clarify for his service in the Philippines, because
would wonder, like, is this guy like a kiddet, like
how old was he? Right? So, at the time that
he was retired and he was a major and would
later be in nineteen oh five, became assistant quartermaster or
assistant chief quartermaster and then chief Quartermaster. But that was
that was after his service in the Philippines. So he
started off the Philippines just a regular officer, as one
does when you graduate West Point, but he would leave
a major and then go and be vice president of
DuPont and head of US operations. Pete, do you remember
who was one of the largest backers of the American
Liberty League besides Jack Morgan?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember. I didn't remember, thank you.
Speaker 2: So I find it very interesting that one of DuPont's
top guys has the America First Committee. I'm sure after
the American Liberty League and the direct attack that they
came under by the newly birthed regulatory state. I'm assuming
that these guys it best to put at least one
layer vicilation between them and their political action, and that
was mister Robert Wood, sorry, Brigadier General Robert Wood, and
he stepped down from the DuPont Company on the eve
of nineteen seventeen and America's entry into the First World War.
He returned to the army as an infantry lieutenant colonel,
so he was on the front line. He stepped down
out of the Vice President's office of one of the
most successful and wealthiest companies in the country to go
to the front lines. Find me anyone, anyone in corporate
America today in senior leadership that not only served. There's
lots of men that serve that hold those positions, at
least a handful, But how many of them are going
to step down from those positions and fight on the
front line if their nation is ever called to arms.
We used to be better.
Speaker 1: Unheard of, Yeah, we used to be. That just doesn't happen.
That doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 2: All of this stops tomorrow, all of it, this hell
we live in this rail husk of a once great house,
this amazing place. It turned into a haunted house, a
house of like horrors. Now all of this ends tomorrow.
When the men with money realized that some things, in
fact most things, are more important than money. These men
knew that already instinctively. Somehow it's been conditioned out of us.
I don't know how, but I'm sure it wasn't easy,
and I'm sure it didn't happen quickly, but it happened.
These men knew that there were things more valuable than money,
that there were risks of loss far worse than money.
There are worse things, as we are finding out today
than losing money. Yea, and the sum total of our
past sins. Wha. What's that quote from the movie The Patriots?
But the only quote of that movie I like. He's
like he says that my greatest fear was that my
past sins would one day come home to roost, like sorry,
the ghosts of my past sins would come home to roost,
and the cost would be more than I could bear.
I believe it's a quote. It's a good one, because
I hope that that's not the case with America. I
hope that the ghosts of our elite's sins have come
home to roost. We live in it. I just hope
that the cost is not more than the nation can bear.
But he would later lead the entire American Expeditionary Force
and exited the war as a brigadier general. He would
then go on to chair the Sears Roebock Company. He
became one of the most important business leaders, not only
in the company's history but in the country at the time,
serving as its president from nineteen twenty eight until nineteen
thirty nine. Also founded All State They're pretty serious, dude,
Right to give you an idea of his bona fides
as far as American Anglo aristocracy is. He in nineteen
fifty was admitted into the Fraternal and Hereditary Anxiety of
the Cincinnati If you know, you know, I don't leave
it at that. But these people, these people weren't like
the men like I just see these men and I
look at like our guys, and the shoes that we
have to fill are immense. Yes, we have been gate
kept away from the wealth of our nation. And I
say that rather hypocritically because some of us, myself included
have not been. But I know most of our guys
have so the bounty of the greatest country in the
history of the world. Their inheritance has been kept from them.
So as far as positions of prominence in our lead
business institutions, cultural institutions, and political institutions like ESAU, that
inheritance has been stolen through trickery and deceit. So these
men's positions of prominence are not shoes that I can
reasonably expect our guys to fill, but their character, their
sense of duty, and their commitment to America, the nation.
It is a sum total of the internet or sorry,
intergenerational what's the word to put it. I guess I
don't want to get too metaphysical. But we believe intrinsically
that there is some type of Well, every now and
then science throws us a bone, right, science confirms something
that surprises science but does not surprise us people of faith,
all right, And one of those things is the discovery
of epigenetic memory. It's a very real thing. We can
test it in entirely controlled environments. Now, first, it was
that hundred monkeys thing that I think I mentioned on
our show with Thomas astral and Jay Burton, Yeah, also
a great guy. But we can replicate we can replicate
it in the lab and entirely close environments. Right, we're
you know, using different color spiders and things like that,
where you know chimp will you know, associates some very
negative stimuli to certain colors and shapes, and their offspring
are inherently I'm sorry, instinctly scared of those same colors
and shapes within one generation. So our consciousness, right, is
there is that innate nature of it, that observer, that
passive participant, that is pure awareness, that is that's our soul,
that is our spirit. But then there is our consciousness,
our conscious mind, the part of our soul that is
us and not God. That is a sum total of
our memories, our life. So if a portion of memory
is inherent intergenerational memory, then consciousness. It's impossible to deny
that there is an element of intergenerational consciousness in a
people and ethnos or racial consciousness in the real sense,
not in the rhetorical sense like the left uses. But
there is a real living conscious entity that is the
sum total of the memories of each generation. I don't
think I'm doing an adequate job of explaining him a
little slow today, but the results of this are undeniable.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, please, honestly, honestly, I think that's a conversation
for another day. That deserves, that deserves its own episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to. I'd like to have that chat
with maybe Thomas too, because he was the one that
initially gave that light bulb. But like the people that
serve are moved by that consciousness, right, those are shoes
that you can fill. I don't think the ancients were
dumb in their worship, at least in some spiritual capacity
their ancestors alongside their gods, because I mean, you know, anyways,
so we can fill those shoes. We don't have to
fill the shoes, you know, financially or economically or in
positions of prominence yet, But we have to be able
to fill those men's these men's shoes in our concept
and are mortal devotion to those things to be ready
to fill those shoes, to be to be deserving of
filling those shoes. And when I look at these guys,
and then I look at our guys today, we need
a lot of work. Just like the black pilling, for instance,
the defeatism if you were in a trench, that type
of attitude would get everyone killed, if they didn't kill
you themselves. Yeah. Yeah, like we have to be better.
Speaker 1: Well we yeah, I'll end it. I'll end it on
this is you mentioned Orrin in an episode he did
and he was talking about the Antioch thing, Well, what
what the fuck is that? That's some bullshit, bullshit inter
Protestant fighting. You know, signed this to make sign this
to prove you're not a fascist or whatever.
Speaker 2: But the.
Speaker 1: The point of Orn's that whole episode. And you know,
a couple of comments I've made recently is that it
seems like now that the left is seemingly defeated, instead
of the right focusing on either utterly destroying the left
that they never come back, or maybe looking at some problems,
some big problems. On the right, they're arguing over memes.
There are you. I mean, they're basically unfollowing people going
to war with people over the meaning of memes. And
we can't be expected to be ready for the kind
of fight you're talking about if we're fighting with each
other over this meme or you know, what is you
know or oh well, you know, if if you're if
you're against Israel. If you're against Israel right now because
they're at war, then you're obviously on the side of
the Palestinians. I mean it just and if if that's
if that's true, you're a third worldist and it's just bullshit.
It's just sorry. The the right got it. The right
decided they were going to get into it. The right
is like, oh, well look at this. I mean, Trump
got elected, and you know the woke is you see
people taking removing their pronouns and stuff like that. So
they're defeated, so let's fight with each other, you know.
Speaker 2: It just what the Army Rangers and also NATO has
been nice enough to do something similar to the documents
called cognitive warfare. It cannot read the the Army Rangers.
If the Army Rangers have their own psychological warfare outfit,
and you can get a hold of the the training
manual and doctrine even I think it's this. The repository
I found them on was like it was a like
called public in Cel Intelligence. It's a great site for
policy documents and training manuals. Like a training manual for
like anything military is really like not just like a
you know, it's not an instruction manual. It's really like everything, right,
it's a complete text, but Public Intelligence I believe was
the site I got it from in this particular instance.
But it basically goes through what syops actually are, and
I think it's very informative, and I think we would
do well in knowing it because all the things that
we get chalked up so that we chalk up to syops, right,
like hoaxes or trying to convince us of things that
aren't real, right, like holograms or whatever. Like all the
stuff that Alex Jones, you know, screams, are syops, right,
like these fake things that didn't happen, trying to convince
us of not real things. That represents less than ten
percent of what a SYOPS unit actually does. Right, So
our whole conception of what a SYOP is is less
than ten percent of what psychological operations soldiers, right, and
operatives are actually doing. Do you know what ninety percent
of their time, energy, and resources is spent on sewing
discord and creating infighting in a target group. It's what
ninety percent of SYOPS is on the ground. Right in
sounds familiar, Yeah, it does, right, because the number one
priority is to break enemy cohesion right and get the
various leadership individuals or organizations in an enemy population or
an enemy fighting force to fight with each other. Because
when that happens, logistics breaks down, command and control breaks down,
and most importantly, trust breaks down. Right, If you don't
trust this part of your outfit, you aren't going to
be confident that they will resupply you or reinforce you. Right,
So that completely changes your paradigm of what is possible
on the battlefield. Right, you won't do certain things. These
simply swing, creating in fighting and sowing discord. All of
the second and third order effects of that on the
battlefield are huge, So much so they it is so
worthwhile that it represents ninety percent of what psychological operations
units devote their time to. It's all about infighting. Infighting
is the name of the fucking game. And when I
see contrived controversies that no one asked for taking over
the entire discourse, I get suspicious because if I have
to ask, why the fuck does this matter? And whose
issue was this prior? Right? Was this like the hobby
horse of any particular like subset of people. No, it
wasn't this is suspicious as fuck, and anybody fighting on
either side of this argument is dumb or disingenuous. This
is this is an actual sigh up right fucking Brams
or you know, no planes or Project Blue being convince
you video like, that's not syops. This is syops. This
dumb ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's where we should end it.
Speaker 2: I think so too. Man, it's a pleasure to thank
you for having me.
Speaker 1: On always always and let's get let's get back together
with Astrol and Thomas and uh and Jay real soon
and pumps all of that out because people are I
think people are loving that too, So I really like that. Yeah.
We do a lot of stuff in real time there too.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I think I think panels are
the way to go, like for like current stuff or
like stuff that's affected, like stuff like this. A panel
is perfect for stuff that's a inflicting our guys and
the scene like right now. Also for planning like objectives
for you know, anyways.
Speaker 1: That's something that's something we should definitely get together and
talk with Thomas about. Yeah, absolutely, because he's gonna have
a lot on that. All right, Ben, I appreciate you,
Thank you very much doculated by
Speaker 2: H.