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Speaker 4: All right, good afternoon, welcome in another week here, coffee
Speaker 4: and company. It doesn't It feels like a Monday, but
Speaker 4: it's not a week one of college football season in
Speaker 4: the books. The NFL season set to start in just
Speaker 4: a couple of days. That is all very very exciting.
Speaker 4: But I myself had had a great weekend, busy weekend
Speaker 4: to where for some reason, I mean, despite waiting impatiently
Speaker 4: for many many months for this exact time of the
Speaker 4: year to arrive, and here we are, it is upon us.
Speaker 4: I'm dragging ass today, John. I don't know if it's
Speaker 4: if it's just fatigue from you know, maybe needing some
Speaker 4: rest from the long weekend.
Speaker 3: Long weekends will do that to you, especially when it's
Speaker 3: been a while since we've had one, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I I mean I can't really. I mean
Speaker 4: I was busy this weekend as far as you know,
Speaker 4: just you know. I mean I didn't think I didn't
Speaker 4: anything special. I mean, in fact, I just watched a
Speaker 4: lot of football. In fact, watched football, had a fantasy
Speaker 4: football draft. I mean I enjoyed. I mean, the weekend
Speaker 4: was great. But as we get the show started here
Speaker 4: on a Tuesday again, I kind of feel like I
Speaker 4: need a weekkend from the weekend, if that makes any
Speaker 4: sense at all. But we're ready to rock and roll
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Speaker 4: Louisville dot com. Probably one of the longest delays I've
Speaker 4: I've had as far as actually, you know, turning the
Speaker 4: microphone on and just start yapping. I mean, I was here,
Speaker 4: but I'm convinced Shannon the Dude has to be did
Speaker 4: deaf or he's gonna be deaf soon.
Speaker 2: It makes sense.
Speaker 3: I mean, he is kind of the rock guy, even
Speaker 3: though he's also a part of KSR. He's in that,
Speaker 3: you know, the loud music as I am myself.
Speaker 4: But it's not consistent though. That's what I don't understand
Speaker 4: about Shannon the Dude, And the reason only, the only
Speaker 4: reason I know it was him is because whoever's on
Speaker 4: this studio computer prior to me, you know, I see
Speaker 4: that when I log in, it shows who was previously
Speaker 4: logged in, and Shannon is here doing KSR and the
Speaker 4: pre show. And sometimes there are some folk that'll come
Speaker 4: in and use this studio at any point between nude
Speaker 4: and three, but more often than not, it's just Shannon,
Speaker 4: And sometimes, you know, I don't really notice the levels
Speaker 4: being that loud. I just know for me, I've got to,
Speaker 4: you know, I've got to adjust them a little bit.
Speaker 4: But then there's days like today where I mean, I'm
Speaker 4: glad I didn't have my headphones in. I didn't need
Speaker 4: to have the headphones in. There are headphones plugged in
Speaker 4: four different spots within this huge board. We have here
Speaker 4: and like it scared the crap out of me. And
Speaker 4: it wasn't even it was from headphones that are plugged
Speaker 4: in on the other side. It's like it's almost like
Speaker 4: the headphones are so loud even when they're not on
Speaker 4: somebody's hedge on. It felt like there was a big
Speaker 4: speaker in here, you know what I mean, Like what,
Speaker 4: I can hear it plain as day, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: it sounds like it's coming from far away and it's
Speaker 4: just because it's coming from a headphone. So anyways, I
Speaker 4: had to run over there turn those off, and then
Speaker 4: once I started unwrapping, I guess that's that's I guess
Speaker 4: a sign of us not being here for a few
Speaker 4: days is I got my headphones out, which I used
Speaker 4: the old white Apple headphones, not Airpop and not even
Speaker 4: like the ones that they send you or that I'm
Speaker 4: not even sure if they give you any headphones anymore
Speaker 4: when you buy a new iPhone, but at one point
Speaker 4: they did, and it went from that old school audio
Speaker 4: jack to like now what as I guess the USBC
Speaker 4: or even that old iPhone charger that I guess is
Speaker 4: still technically used by a lot of people who haven't upgraded,
Speaker 4: but like I use the old white audio jack ones,
Speaker 4: you know, plug in like a typical headphone jack, and
Speaker 4: they've been in my pocket for the last hour and
Speaker 4: I tried to unroll them, and you know, it was
Speaker 4: all processed. So anyways, we're here, We're ready to rock
Speaker 4: and roll. Obviously, a lot to react to that is
Speaker 4: typically what we do on Mondays. I mean, again, it's
Speaker 4: not a Monday, but it kind of is, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, first day of the week, and that's
Speaker 4: exactly where we are today. A lot to take from
Speaker 4: the first weekend of college football where everybody played, and
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you, I think the biggest
Speaker 4: reaction overall is the same. It is about the same
Speaker 4: team that it was about after week zero, and that's
Speaker 4: Florida State. And I asked the question kind of feeling
Speaker 4: like already knew the answer last week, but now I
Speaker 4: know for sure the answer, Like there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 4: Everybody wins when Florida State loses. But what I still
Speaker 4: don't quite understand is it because of the way they
Speaker 4: behaved and acted after not getting into the playoff or
Speaker 4: is it just a thing that's been around forever and
Speaker 4: I just didn't realize it. And what I mean is
Speaker 4: just people not liking Florida State and taking great satisfaction
Speaker 4: in them being embarrassed. And they are absolutely embarrassed in
Speaker 4: a major way. And we're all like, it felt like
Speaker 4: everybody won last night, unless, of course, you are a
Speaker 4: Florida State fan. And if you're a Florida State fan,
Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta be in shock, Like you gotta
Speaker 4: be beside yourself to kind of to see where you are.
Speaker 4: I mean, there is a lot of football to be played.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you're gonna hear people say that over and over,
Speaker 4: but like, why can't we just say it. They've ruined
Speaker 4: their season. I mean, I guess technically they could still
Speaker 4: win the ACC, but they're zero to two in the ACC,
Speaker 4: and they've played teams that nobody expected to be very
Speaker 4: good in the ACC. So like, even if they won out,
Speaker 4: if there is a team in this league the ACC
Speaker 4: that is in cruise control to win the league, just
Speaker 4: like they were last year, and also Louisville was as well,
Speaker 4: I mean, let's be real, Louisville, they clinched their spot
Speaker 4: in the a SEC Championship game with what a few
Speaker 4: games left, so like people are afraid to say it,
Speaker 4: at least, you know, those that are the polished talking heads,
Speaker 4: the ones who you know always act like coaches, never
Speaker 4: make a mistake, and that know like you, just the
Speaker 4: very vanilla talking heads that are that are afraid to
Speaker 4: share strong opinions and sometimes afraid to just acknowledge the obvious.
Speaker 4: And that's what irritates me is that it's pretty obvious
Speaker 4: Florida State's season is over. I mean, nobody will say it,
Speaker 4: but it's over. Even if they get better, they're still
Speaker 4: gonna lose to teams that are better than Georgia Tech
Speaker 4: in Boston College. So I mean, I can't think of
Speaker 4: anything quite like the first two weeks of the season
Speaker 4: for Florida State, just given the act that they did
Speaker 4: the unthinkable by not making I mean they didn't do
Speaker 4: it wasn't their fault, it's just how it played out.
Speaker 4: They did not make the playoff last year because of
Speaker 4: a of a rare situation to where it just made
Speaker 4: no sense to put him in. Even though they were undefeated,
Speaker 4: nobody felt as if they were going to be close
Speaker 4: to being one of the four best teams. And yes,
Speaker 4: I know it's not supposed to be about you know,
Speaker 4: your potential. It's supposed to be about you know what
Speaker 4: you've accomplished. Well, hey, the guy who helped them accomplish
Speaker 4: that special season, he wasn't available anymore, and that matters.
Speaker 4: Like people can act like it doesn't, but it does.
Speaker 4: If you're on the committee and you put Florida State
Speaker 4: in there, you would know that you wasted a spot
Speaker 4: and that sucks for them, but that's just the way
Speaker 4: it is. So you go back to that. Then they
Speaker 4: sue the league, they play victim. I mean they I mean,
Speaker 4: they had a legitimate argument, but then again, like it
Speaker 4: was more more than anything, it was just, man, that's
Speaker 4: tough for you guys, Like I get it. I'd be frustrated,
Speaker 4: but like, what is your lawsuit gonna do? And then
Speaker 4: now we know, you know, we then learned that they
Speaker 4: were suing the ACC so they can get out of
Speaker 4: the league and preseason top ten I think is what
Speaker 4: just about everybody had them at. I think they were
Speaker 4: number ten in the eight peop pole before you know
Speaker 4: it came out today and now they're not ranked at all.
Speaker 4: But to I mean, just them suing the league alone
Speaker 4: is it's just something you never thought you'd see in
Speaker 4: high level college athletics, and it's because they feel superior.
Speaker 4: They feel that the rest of the league is beneath
Speaker 4: them and the league is holding them back. They won
Speaker 4: out of their grant of rights deal because they just
Speaker 4: you know, again, they don't have a legal case. They're
Speaker 4: not gonna win their lawsuit. But I guess their claim
Speaker 4: is that you know, they're being held back even though
Speaker 4: they agreed to it, and now here they are zero
Speaker 4: to two an embarrassing fashion. I mean, obviously, when they
Speaker 4: played Georgia last year, that was one of the most
Speaker 4: embarrassing football games you'll ever see. But if you count
Speaker 4: that as well as what happened in Ireland a week ago,
Speaker 4: what happened last night up or I guess down in Tallahassee,
Speaker 4: they've just been dominated physically. They've been out rushed in
Speaker 4: their last three games eight hundred and twenty five to
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty two. They've given up eight hundred
Speaker 4: and twenty five yards on the ground in their last
Speaker 4: three games, and they've only rushed for one hundred and
Speaker 4: eighty two yards. They've been outscored one hundred and fifteen
Speaker 4: to thirty seven in their last three games. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's and what's crazy is that last year they were good.
Speaker 4: I mean, they did not lose a game when healthy,
Speaker 4: and you know, they were good. But all this does
Speaker 4: is actually make people think that they weren't any good
Speaker 4: at all last year. And you know, as much as
Speaker 4: that may seem unfair to them, like when you come
Speaker 4: out and start the season this way and just you know,
Speaker 4: have this I guess sense of worth that really isn't legit, meaning,
Speaker 4: you know, how could you claim you're being held back
Speaker 4: by this league whenever you know you aren't even competitive
Speaker 4: in it right now? It's just wild. I mean, I
Speaker 4: can't think of any any comparable situation in college football
Speaker 4: where you've had, you know, since January of last year. Well,
Speaker 4: I guess probably I guess December more than anything, because
Speaker 4: that's when the playoff was announced. But from December to now,
Speaker 4: like what a wild ride it has been for Florida State.
Speaker 4: So again we'll talk about what happened with Louisville and
Speaker 4: Austin p maybe like I might have just lied to
Speaker 4: you for the first time within the first ten minutes
Speaker 4: of the show, like I've probably lied to you before,
Speaker 4: but you know what I mean, Like ten minutes in,
Speaker 4: like I think I just lied to you, because why
Speaker 4: would we talk about Austin p I mean, we could
Speaker 4: talk about, you know, some of the things that stood
Speaker 4: out in that game, but like that, unfortunately, that game
Speaker 4: is exactly what you're supposed to do, and I mean
Speaker 4: exactly what you're supposed to do in those situations like
Speaker 4: that's all you can do is just completely demolish your
Speaker 4: opponents sixty two to nothing. You could have made it
Speaker 4: even worse if you wanted to. A bunch of guys
Speaker 4: got to play like that is quite literally exactly what
Speaker 4: you need to do when are supposed to do in
Speaker 4: those kind of games. But you know what, because it
Speaker 4: played out the exact way that it did, it also
Speaker 4: made me, you know, it also made me realize, like
Speaker 4: we don't need to be playing these games like that
Speaker 4: was I mean, I hate to say it because it
Speaker 4: sounds like I'm trying to rain on the parade and
Speaker 4: I'm like being a fun sucker, because I'm sure a
Speaker 4: lot of people love being out there at Cardinals Stadium
Speaker 4: tailgating for the first time you got to see your
Speaker 4: team wins sixty two to nothing despite people wanting us
Speaker 4: to worry about the weather. The weather actually wasn't bad,
Speaker 4: Like it was great. I'm sure everybody had fun, but
Speaker 4: like it's a waste of time, that's what that's what
Speaker 4: it is. Luckily, it sounds like nobody got hurt. And
Speaker 4: now you move on to another game that is kind
Speaker 4: of similar to this game you just played against Austin Pea.
Speaker 4: Because Jacksonville State they're not any good. They are G five,
Speaker 4: so it's not as if they're an FCS team. This
Speaker 4: is a team that is in the same you know,
Speaker 4: FBS classification that you are, but they're not very good.
Speaker 4: They got demolished by Coastal Carolina last week, and Louisville
Speaker 4: big time favorites once again. In fact, I'll have to
Speaker 4: double check the spread. I know it opened it Louisville
Speaker 4: minus twenty one, and I think at last I checked,
Speaker 4: it got up to Louisville minus like twenty seven and
Speaker 4: a half or something like that. I feel like maybe
Speaker 4: that I don't know, but I know there was a
Speaker 4: lot that wrong. Is it up to twenty seven twenty eight? Yeah,
Speaker 4: so that makes a little more sense. But so again,
Speaker 4: I'll probably just be honest. We probably won't do a
Speaker 4: ton of Jacksonville State conversation just like we did in
Speaker 4: Austin P. However, I do think it's interesting that Rich
Speaker 4: Rodriguez as their coach. Like obviously Louisville fans remember Rich
Speaker 4: rod from West Virginia, and if you follow college football,
Speaker 4: I'm sure you're well aware of his resume, his story
Speaker 4: a guy who left Michigan, I'm sorry, left West Virginia
Speaker 4: to go to Michigan, didn't work out there, then ended
Speaker 4: up getting an opportunity at Arizona, and then he had
Speaker 4: a mistress situation going on where he had staffers that
Speaker 4: were quite literally their job was to make sure that
Speaker 4: the wife and the mistress were never in the same
Speaker 4: place together. That was like the job duties of one staffer.
Speaker 4: So he gets fired there and then he now he's
Speaker 4: landed here at Jacksonville State, so he'll bring his team
Speaker 4: into town and they'll probably get their ass kicked, just
Speaker 4: like Austin P did. And then Louisville can you know,
Speaker 4: shift focus to games where there's actually something on the line.
Speaker 4: And by the way, Louisville is up to number twenty
Speaker 4: two in the AP pole. I think number twenty three
Speaker 4: in the coaches poll. So Louisville is a ranked team
Speaker 4: right now that I mean, I assume they would jump up.
Speaker 4: But you really never know, right because when it comes
Speaker 4: to some of the teams that, like you knew Florida
Speaker 4: State was going to drop off, but hey, Boston College
Speaker 4: and Georgia Tech, maybe they jump ahead of you when
Speaker 4: it comes to the rankings because you know they actually
Speaker 4: beat a team that at the time they well, I
Speaker 4: don't know, Boston College. They did take a significant jump.
Speaker 4: They're just right outside the top twenty five, but like
Speaker 4: those wins against Florida State don't look as good now.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, Louisville is up to number twenty two in
Speaker 4: the AP pole. And now you've got Notre Dame number five,
Speaker 4: Miami number twelve, Georgia Tech's twenty three, Clemson State in
Speaker 4: the top twenty five. At twenty five, I mean, you've
Speaker 4: got four games coming up in the next month and
Speaker 4: a half against ranked teams. Now, will they still be
Speaker 4: ranked at that point? Tough to say. I mean, Notre
Speaker 4: Dame in Miami are going to be a ranked when
Speaker 4: you play them. Miami really really good, by the way
Speaker 4: against Florida, which, by the way, that's something we can
Speaker 4: get to a little bit later on. We'll only know whenever.
Speaker 4: You know, weeks go by and you see these teams
Speaker 4: after just one more than just one game, but like
Speaker 4: Miami looked good. But was it more to do with
Speaker 4: Miami or was it Florida and Billy Napier, like clearly
Speaker 4: being in a situation where that thing's not salvageable. I mean,
Speaker 4: you've got Clemson getting destroyed by Georgia and Davos Sweeney.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he was probably one of the
Speaker 4: most talked about people within college football after Week one,
Speaker 4: just because you know, he didn't add a transfer. The
Speaker 4: only other schools that didn't add transfers of the service
Speaker 4: academies who can't add transfers, And he tritted a team
Speaker 4: out there that just a few years ago would have
Speaker 4: been expected to compete and would have been expected to
Speaker 4: win because they were on top of the sport. It
Speaker 4: was one A one B yam on Clemson saving and Sweeney.
Speaker 4: And now you know, things have changed drastically in just
Speaker 4: a few years time. So it's almost as if Devo's
Speaker 4: not really doing his job by just refusing to realize
Speaker 4: that the game has changed and the job requirement has changed.
Speaker 4: If you are not competing in the portal to go
Speaker 4: get good players that are available and you know, try
Speaker 4: to keep the guys that you want around so they
Speaker 4: don't like if you're not doing that, you're quite literally
Speaker 4: not doing a huge part of your job. Like, I mean,
Speaker 4: at what point does Clemson realize they may have they
Speaker 4: may be able to fire this guy for cause because
Speaker 4: he's simply just is not doing a huge part of
Speaker 4: the job. Like they'd never do that. He brought up
Speaker 4: two national championships, so he'll probably never get fired there.
Speaker 4: But it's going to get weird and awkward if this
Speaker 4: thing continues to play out the way where because they're
Speaker 4: going to be all right, they're not going to be terrible,
Speaker 4: but they're going to be probably a borderline top twenty
Speaker 4: five ish team for the foreseeable future if they don't
Speaker 4: make any if Dabo doesn't adjust and start utilizing the
Speaker 4: portal and for his pride and his ego in him
Speaker 4: just being a weird ass dude, Like he'd be fine
Speaker 4: with that because he's doing it his way, but like
Speaker 4: Clemson fans can't be cool with that. Who would look
Speaker 4: that that'd be terrible, especially knowing that you could be
Speaker 4: a lot better. So anyways, long story short, Clemson, they're
Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't look good. They got demolished in
Speaker 4: the second half, but like most teams would get demolished
Speaker 4: by Georgia. But again, what was that more about Georgia
Speaker 4: being just stupid good compared to everybody else? Or is
Speaker 4: that you know more about Clemson just showing us that, Hey,
Speaker 4: because Dabo won't go to the portal, this Clemson team
Speaker 4: is not. This program no longer has the ability to
Speaker 4: get as high as they once were. Right, their ceiling
Speaker 4: is so much lower now because the game is changed
Speaker 4: in other programs are utilizing the portal in a major way.
Speaker 4: The richer getting richer, right, Like, let's be real, put
Speaker 4: your poral rankings aside. The best of the best still
Speaker 4: who they want in recruiting and in the transfer portal, Right, Like,
Speaker 4: go look at I mean, who was it? Was it
Speaker 4: Georgia or Alabama this weekend where every touchdown that was
Speaker 4: caught was by somebody who transferred in I think it
Speaker 4: might have been George And I feel like I might
Speaker 4: have heard that stat because of the obvious portal component
Speaker 4: within that matchup where George is gonna utilize the portal.
Speaker 4: They're gonna get better in it like most teams, and
Speaker 4: Clemson's just decided not to do it because of Dabosweeney.
Speaker 4: So anyways, I'm ready to get these games over with.
Speaker 4: We got one out of the way, we got another
Speaker 4: one coming up this week. I hate to sound like that,
Speaker 4: but I'm just being honest with you. I think that's
Speaker 4: what I'm supposed to do, right, share my honest opinions.
Speaker 4: And I hate these kind of games. It's good to
Speaker 4: get them out of the way early to where you
Speaker 4: don't have to play, you know, Austin p in week
Speaker 4: eleven like some teams do. But I just as a
Speaker 4: selfish fan, I want my team each week in, week
Speaker 4: out to have a chance to go pick up a
Speaker 4: win that has some currency attached to it. There's value there.
Speaker 4: You did something and it mattered. You've now changed how
Speaker 4: people see you because like Boston College last night you
Speaker 4: beat Florida State, like USC the other night they beat LSU.
Speaker 4: So you don't want that every week where you're playing
Speaker 4: you know, legitimate top ten teams. But I mean, it's
Speaker 4: nice to see the new offense that Jeff Brohm has.
Speaker 4: When I say new offense, I just mean the new pieces.
Speaker 4: He's still doing the same thing offensively, but you know,
Speaker 4: obviously he's got a lot of new players via the portal.
Speaker 4: It was good to see Tyler Shuck look like I
Speaker 4: mean a very you know look, he look good. I mean,
Speaker 4: he could have had eight touchdowns if they kept him
Speaker 4: in the game. You saw Isaac Brown show why he's
Speaker 4: got an electric He showed the electrifying speed we've been
Speaker 4: hearing about the true freshman. I mean, I know he
Speaker 4: still listed at four string on the depth chart today,
Speaker 4: but I wouldn't be shocked if by the time we
Speaker 4: get to midway through the season he's the guy they
Speaker 4: lean on more than anybody when it comes to carrying
Speaker 4: the ball the tight ends. I mean Mark Redmond, that
Speaker 4: perfect touchdown, I mean that connection from Shuck to Redman
Speaker 4: was beautiful. Ja Corey Brooks looks like a guy who
Speaker 4: oh yeah, that guy's pretty good. Makes sense. He was
Speaker 4: catching touchdowns for Alabama just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4: So I loved it. But like I know, it doesn't
Speaker 4: really tell me anything, and that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 4: It's just selfishly as a fan, like I would love
Speaker 4: to know that you beat an ACC team or look,
Speaker 4: you can't control it. You're gonna have these games on
Speaker 4: your schedule every year. And if I'm mad at anybody
Speaker 4: this WEEKU, you've med at Indiana because they should be
Speaker 4: on the schedule, not Jacksonville State John.
Speaker 3: That's true, and I'd be I wouldn't say I'd be
Speaker 3: feeling like Indiana is gonna come into Cardinals Stadium and win,
Speaker 3: but I'd be feeling a lot better than I would if.
Speaker 2: Tom Allen were still the head coach.
Speaker 4: That's true, I mean, but that's not saying a whole lot, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean you said you wanted Indiana and O in
Speaker 4: by more than they did, which had me double checking
Speaker 4: to see if I maybe.
Speaker 2: They killed them. They didn't.
Speaker 4: They cover the spread, So like what the thing is,
Speaker 4: You're not being satisfied, though, is what I love, because
Speaker 4: you know Signetti can do better.
Speaker 3: Like, hey, they had such a great start. I believe
Speaker 3: they scored touchdowns on their first two drives. It looked
Speaker 3: like they were gonna run away with it, which they did.
Speaker 3: I just expected it to be more along the lines of, like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, fifty two to seven something like that.
Speaker 2: Instead of thirty one to seven.
Speaker 4: They look pretty good. I mean, when's the last time
Speaker 4: they got a season started with a win like that.
Speaker 2: I guess twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3: They said, like an FBS opponent, Yeah, with that type
Speaker 3: of margin and.
Speaker 4: Just beat them down, beat them bad so. And then
Speaker 4: on the Kentucky side, I got to admit I didn't
Speaker 4: watch much of their game because I fell asleep when
Speaker 4: they were in their lightning delay. But I'd say they
Speaker 4: were probably in a similar situation. They like what they saw,
Speaker 4: and you know, now you just got to wait and
Speaker 4: see if it means much of anything when you play,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, it's hard to know what any
Speaker 4: of this stuff really means. But what we do know
Speaker 4: is that that's exactly what you're supposed to do. All
Speaker 4: three local teams did exactly what you're supposed to do
Speaker 4: in those kind of situations, although you know, Kentucky's game
Speaker 4: didn't get to finish it because of the lightning stuff,
Speaker 4: which is just to mean shout out to those fans.
Speaker 4: By the way, I didn't actually see a number and
Speaker 4: I didn't you know, I maybe it wasn't, but I
Speaker 4: know they kept showing the fans that had had you know,
Speaker 4: waited out the weather delay. They weren't selling beer during
Speaker 4: the lightning delay, which sounds like torture. I mean, not
Speaker 4: to sound like a raging alcoholic, but like, if I'm
Speaker 4: going to be killing time the stadium while we're waiting
Speaker 4: out this storm delay, like at least let me pound
Speaker 4: some beers or something. So but yeah, to stick around
Speaker 4: and be there that long, and you know, not even
Speaker 4: for an exciting game or a big game. You know,
Speaker 4: it's a good look on their parts. So anyways, we
Speaker 4: need to get to our first break. A lot to
Speaker 4: react to again from the weekend, and we've got Week
Speaker 4: two already here, and we'll get more into the college
Speaker 4: football matchups this weekend because there are some good games
Speaker 4: coming up for sure. However, NFL man, the fact that
Speaker 4: we're just two days away from kicking off the NFL season,
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Speaker 4: It's a wonderful place. The I mean, seemingly the entire
Speaker 4: world making fun of Florida State football has just been
Speaker 4: it's been delightful. This one is this is a this
Speaker 4: has got four point two million impressions, this tweet, and
Speaker 4: it comes from an account that is called the College
Speaker 4: Football Meme Zone. And it's a photoshop picture. It's got
Speaker 4: like a fake TMZ watermark on it as if it's
Speaker 4: like a like a really valuable picture that TMZ obtained
Speaker 4: from somebody that they paid for. And it shows the
Speaker 4: roof where the shooter tried to kill Donald Trump a
Speaker 4: couple of months ago. You guys remember that, right, And
Speaker 4: it says breaking TMZ release has never before seen photo
Speaker 4: of a second shooter and the attempted Donald Trump assassination.
Speaker 4: And it's DJ Dju just running around. I mean, they
Speaker 4: just photoshopped him up on the roof because you know
Speaker 4: that's how bad he. I mean, like again, like maybe
Speaker 4: that's a little little tasteless, but like I can at
Speaker 4: least see the humor in that. And you know, the
Speaker 4: guy who was apparently gonna eat dog poop, Like if
Speaker 4: you followed that at all, Johns insane. I mean this,
Speaker 4: I mean, this is wild and the fact that here
Speaker 4: we are, you know, the next day, and it's still
Speaker 4: something that seems to be being discussed across the college
Speaker 4: football world online. Like I think people are really gonna,
Speaker 4: you know, do whatever they can to make sure this
Speaker 4: guy is held accountable. Then he does own up and
Speaker 4: do what he claimed he would do, which is eat
Speaker 4: dog poop if Boston College beat Florida State, which is
Speaker 4: exactly you know, is exactly what happened. So I don't
Speaker 4: even know if this guy. He's deleted his account, so
Speaker 4: I haven't even seen like an old screenshot of his
Speaker 4: Twitter account to see if. Like he was like a
Speaker 4: very highly followed guy within the Florida State football Twitter world,
Speaker 4: Like I really don't know, but he's very pop I mean,
Speaker 4: he's I shouldn't say popular, but I mean he's somebody
Speaker 4: that you know, a lot of people are are trying
Speaker 4: to figure out who he is exactly. But yeah, he
Speaker 4: claimed that he would eat Yes, is Florida State loses
Speaker 4: to Boston College this weekend, I will eat dog bleep
Speaker 4: out of a red solo cup with a spoon, and
Speaker 4: it also goes on to say that and post a
Speaker 4: video of me doing it. Book it well. Then, once
Speaker 4: it was quite clear that they were gonna lose, he
Speaker 4: deleted his account midway through the game, and when of
Speaker 4: barstool Sports his guys was able to track him down,
Speaker 4: get his snapchat, got his phone number, and he hasn't
Speaker 4: like publicly outed him or I guess what they say
Speaker 4: is dosing. But is it gonna get to that point? Like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm all for childish humor, right, Like I'm
Speaker 4: I'm I mean, I'm immature like everybody else, right, But
Speaker 4: why do people really want this to happen?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think a part of it is people
Speaker 3: wanting to see somebody follow through with something so completely ridiculous,
Speaker 3: But the overall thought in general of somebody eating dog
Speaker 3: poop on camera is just insane in general.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is from Jack McGuire Barstool Sports.
Speaker 4: He says, the dog poop eater is on the run,
Speaker 4: like you wouldn't believe. In the last hour, he has
Speaker 4: deleted his Instagram and his Facebook. The man is recently engaged.
Speaker 4: Imagine explaining to your soon to be wife why you
Speaker 4: had to go zero dark thirty on social media. I
Speaker 4: have this Beyonce's Instagram. I think I may draw the
Speaker 4: line at involving civilians, but I'd be lying if I
Speaker 4: didn't consider it. And like everybody's like, you gotta get him,
Speaker 4: and I mean, like you realize nobody can.
Speaker 5: Like he.
Speaker 4: Probably should have just never deleted his account and just
Speaker 4: left it up and like been like, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 4: doing that. But like the fact that he just tried
Speaker 4: to no longer exist on the internet, it led to people,
Speaker 4: I guess, having the reaction of he can't get away
Speaker 4: with this. We're gonna we're gonna figure out who this
Speaker 4: guy is. We're make sure he does in fact eat
Speaker 4: eat dog poop. I mean, you never really know. I
Speaker 4: always say this about Twitter, like if you're on Twitter,
Speaker 4: and by the way, Twitter, Twitter is entertaining for sure
Speaker 4: when it comes to like sports, and it's such a
Speaker 4: constant thing. It is the you can do two different
Speaker 4: versions of your feed. You can do stuff that you
Speaker 4: that that the algorithm thinks that you may be interested in,
Speaker 4: or you can just do to a straight feed, or
Speaker 4: it's just in real time what people are posting. And
Speaker 4: I don't as we've discussed before. I'm not sure if
Speaker 4: there's any other social media out there that's like that,
Speaker 4: so that that may that's a that's a benefit of
Speaker 4: Twitter in my opinion, but there's so many people that
Speaker 4: aren't on it. So because it's a constant and if
Speaker 4: you are somebody active on there, it is it's difficult
Speaker 4: to remind yourself. Oh, there's a lot of people that
Speaker 4: don't know what the hell I'm talking about because they're
Speaker 4: not on Twitter, and they're probably better off for it.
Speaker 4: So you never know, like what something from Twitter, if
Speaker 4: it's got millions of views across the Twitter world, like,
Speaker 4: did it make it big enough to where it was
Speaker 4: going to like be a known thing for somebody that's
Speaker 4: not on Twitter. But when Scott ben Pelt last night
Speaker 4: on Sports Center talked about it, I mean that's when
Speaker 4: you know this became bigger than just Twitter.
Speaker 6: Teams down, that's understandable. They're not down as bad as
Speaker 6: that dude on the Internet who said he'd be dogfoop
Speaker 6: out of the Solo Cup. They you think you just
Speaker 6: get to delete your accountant. The Internet ain't gonna forget that, buddy.
Speaker 6: You don't get to just keep it moving and get
Speaker 6: a new name or something. People are gonna find it.
Speaker 1: That's how that works.
Speaker 4: So again, I'm sure it's just people, you know, messing
Speaker 4: around on the internet, but I can't. I do sense
Speaker 4: a weird level of you know, does I think people
Speaker 4: want to see him eat poop? And I'm like, who
Speaker 4: would want that?
Speaker 2: People just want to see somebody go through torture?
Speaker 3: I guess, especially a Florida State fan now, because they're
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 4: Do they not have weak weak stomachs? I mean I
Speaker 4: don't if I had like a mortal enemy that you know,
Speaker 4: I wanted to, you know, to suffer in life, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't want to watch them eat dog poop because it
Speaker 4: would make me throw up.
Speaker 2: I just don't.
Speaker 4: I don't get it. And yet, like you know, like
Speaker 4: people are like what you're saying, this guy thinks he
Speaker 4: can get away with it, and I'm thinking, I mean, like,
Speaker 4: why do you care? Like he's probably embarrassed enough, hasn't
Speaker 4: the hasn't the harm been done here?
Speaker 3: Imagine if he doesn't even have a dog and he
Speaker 3: has to find somebody else's dog to get the poop from,
Speaker 3: that's even worse. Yeah, I mean, how do you ask
Speaker 3: somebody college to use their dog for a few minutes.
Speaker 4: College football gives us weird weird stuff, does it not?
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have it any other way.
Speaker 2: I love how Florida State too.
Speaker 3: They bookend it week zero to the end of week
Speaker 3: one with headlines of them just not living up to expectations.
Speaker 4: Harrassing themselves, right, I mean, it's it's not a good look.
Speaker 4: And I mean I'd be a liar if I said
Speaker 4: that this is a good look for the ACC. But
Speaker 4: just given the fact that we know they don't want
Speaker 4: to be in the league, and look, I'll be honest
Speaker 4: with you, as much as it's nice to see them
Speaker 4: kind of have to be humbled in a major way,
Speaker 4: in a way they never thought possible, I also am
Speaker 4: still aware that the ACC is going to be a
Speaker 4: better league if they're in it. Like let's just like
Speaker 4: we can point laugh and you know, I guess you'd
Speaker 4: never really want anybody to be a part of something
Speaker 4: if they don't want to be a part of it.
Speaker 4: But they don't have any options, Like they're not going anywhere,
Speaker 4: and it's not a good thing that they were preseason
Speaker 4: top ten and now they look I mean now they're
Speaker 4: the embarrassment of the country. But overall, like the ACC,
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe this is an unusual year to where
Speaker 4: you do pretty well in non conference games and you
Speaker 4: end up, you know, I'm trying to envision a scenario
Speaker 4: where the ACC starts to get the benefit of the
Speaker 4: doubt that they seemingly have never got, and I don't
Speaker 4: even again, I don't know if that's possible, because Vandy
Speaker 4: beating Virginia Tech was a really bad look for the ACC.
Speaker 5: It just was.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's embarrassing Vandy. I mean, Vandy is supposed
Speaker 4: to suck. Vandy does suck, but then they beat an
Speaker 4: ACC team that, for some reason people seem to think
Speaker 4: is I mean again, I don't know why. Some of
Speaker 4: these teams were viewed as this is, you know, the cute,
Speaker 4: pesky team that might actually end up winning the league
Speaker 4: this year with really nothing to base it off of.
Speaker 4: Like Virginia Tech got that love, NC State got that love,
Speaker 4: and look, it's early. Maybe those teams end up being
Speaker 4: good down the line, but like, here's here's what sucks.
Speaker 4: If Virginia Tech does get a lot better and they
Speaker 4: end up being one of the best teams in this league.
Speaker 4: Maybe in week ten, week eleven, they're still in position
Speaker 4: to potentially put themselves in the AEC Championship game because
Speaker 4: they've done well in conference play. You know what everybody's
Speaker 4: gonna say when that happens, right, well, geez, how bad's
Speaker 4: the ACC? They got Virginia Tech competing in the league
Speaker 4: and they lost to Vandy. Like, you know, it's stupid
Speaker 4: that we do that, but that's how college football works,
Speaker 4: and perception matters, man, Like, I know, the twelve team
Speaker 4: playoff will it's going to do. It's gonna you know,
Speaker 4: it makes there's so much more inclusion now within the sport,
Speaker 4: and that's good for especially for fan bases around here.
Speaker 4: That realistically speaking, i mean, the chances of you ever
Speaker 4: making a four team playoff in that model is just
Speaker 4: almost non existent. I mean it's possible, but very very
Speaker 4: very difficult to imagine. Now it's not as difficult. But
Speaker 4: you know, like the ACC for years did so poorly
Speaker 4: in the non conference games that now you know, Georgia
Speaker 4: beating the hell out of Clemson was probably just because
Speaker 4: George is that good. But that's not the reaction people
Speaker 4: are gonna give you. It'll be a little bit of
Speaker 4: both that George is great in man the ACC. Remember
Speaker 4: when Clemson used to be good. Now they stink. And
Speaker 4: you know, the SEC itself, let's be real, they didn't
Speaker 4: have a great week one, but you never hear that
Speaker 4: because you know, for for decades they have gotten and
Speaker 4: honestly deserved the benefit of the doubt because of what
Speaker 4: they do and not conference action, and they lose what
Speaker 4: was the pull up the record here? Because yeah, let's
Speaker 4: see here we scroll down here. I know I had
Speaker 4: it favored it on my on my tweets here just
Speaker 4: because Yeah. So the SEC was featured in four spotlight
Speaker 4: games this weekend and went one to three, including two
Speaker 4: of their teams getting beat by double digits on their
Speaker 4: home field. And yet I feel like when it comes
Speaker 4: to like conference, you know conference, you know, bragging rights
Speaker 4: and whatnot, like whose league is better? We all know
Speaker 4: that the SEC is the best league, we all know
Speaker 4: the big tens behind it, But you know, the ACC,
Speaker 4: I feel like for a long time has been fighting
Speaker 4: to or at least, you know, I hope they're fighting.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they care. I assume they care,
Speaker 4: like change the perception that they are a solid football league.
Speaker 4: And you know Bandy beating Virginia Tech was just a
Speaker 4: really bad look for all that, to be honest with you,
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Speaker 4: four h five today. We're going to talk to Zach
Speaker 4: Barnett of FootballScoop dot com. Before we get to our
Speaker 4: next break. Let's go to the phone lines and we'll
Speaker 4: welcome in Chris Chris. How you doing today?
Speaker 5: Hey, Nick, Chris Floyd ain't been on the show in
Speaker 5: a while.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I didn't get to go to the first game. My
Speaker 5: son had written white scrimmage at Hanover and I got
Speaker 5: season tickets and I'll miss this game too at Louisville Football.
Speaker 5: But it's good to see a quarterback just go through
Speaker 5: all the throws and do that thing. But I wanted
Speaker 5: to comment on something. I was watching the Florida State
Speaker 5: game last night, Florida State and Boston College, and they
Speaker 5: kept on seeing how much the quarterback for Boston College
Speaker 5: was going early to practice and really working on his game.
Speaker 5: Do you think I know, I get caught up, and
Speaker 5: I know gamblers get caught up. It's hard not to
Speaker 5: get caught up in the known names, the Notre Dames,
Speaker 5: the Michigan, the Kentucky's, the Alabama And sometime we as
Speaker 5: football fans get caught up in these name brand names,
Speaker 5: but we forget a lot of times the transfer portal.
Speaker 7: How much is.
Speaker 5: It of that these guys are getting some really good
Speaker 5: players that might wentn't on the Richter scale and coaches,
Speaker 5: Cause I just when I looked at that guy for
Speaker 5: Boston College last night, he just looked like one of
Speaker 5: them guys that just eats footballs and just a really
Speaker 5: good coach. And if you take.
Speaker 7: A really good coach and you get the guys to
Speaker 7: buy into your system, you can have a really good team.
Speaker 7: And I think a lot of times, I'm not saying.
Speaker 5: That Florida State is very, very, very good, but I
Speaker 5: like the coaching that that guy did last night, and
Speaker 5: their defense was very very hungry, and I hopefully that's
Speaker 5: the case with Tyler shut and Bram and some of
Speaker 5: these coaches, some.
Speaker 7: Of these these guys come from these schools. They're hungry,
Speaker 7: they get an opportunity to play on national TV. And
Speaker 7: you know, the best guy's not always the five star
Speaker 7: guy that everybody's talking about.
Speaker 5: There's always a diamond in the rough. Like Mary State
Speaker 5: was able to get that kid in basketball using a
Speaker 5: parable what's the kids that's in the NBA.
Speaker 4: I'm not just yeah John Morant, John Morant.
Speaker 7: Now John Morant was shooting ball in a gym and
Speaker 7: a guy told the head coach, you got to get
Speaker 7: down there.
Speaker 5: Man, we got a kid down there that's incredible.
Speaker 7: So I think we're still forgetting Sometime these kids are
Speaker 7: D one athletes and been putting on the big stage
Speaker 7: and put in the right systems, sometime it just clicks.
Speaker 7: I just want your feedback on that because I know
Speaker 7: we're using so oh, Vanderbilt beat such and such, but
Speaker 7: who did Vanderbilt get through the NIL? I mean, what
Speaker 7: coaches did they get in the weightlifting program? So I
Speaker 7: just want your feedback on that.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Chris, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah.
Speaker 4: When it comes to Boston College last night, I mean,
Speaker 4: first of all, Bill O'Brien's a hell of a coach
Speaker 4: and the fact that they were able to get him
Speaker 4: because their coach just decided. I mean, it is wild
Speaker 4: how that played out with Boston College. For those who
Speaker 4: don't remember, Boston College's head coach unexpectedly resigned to go
Speaker 4: be the defensive coordinator with the Green Bay Packers because
Speaker 4: at a place like Boston College he just felt helpless.
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't speak for him, but the reporting
Speaker 4: on that was that he felt like it at Boston
Speaker 4: College they need resources when it comes to NIL, and
Speaker 4: they just aren't gonna get it to where they can
Speaker 4: be competitive, to where it's almost like he just abandoned
Speaker 4: the job and was like, look, I will not be
Speaker 4: able to have the success needed here for this thing
Speaker 4: to be sustainable. So I'm going to go to the
Speaker 4: NFL and be a coordinator because in this new world
Speaker 4: of college athletics, with the portal and with NIL, we're
Speaker 4: going to struggle meeting Boston College. So Bill O'Brien, a
Speaker 4: hell of a coach, a guy who know his resume
Speaker 4: speaks for itself. Well, he decided to go after that
Speaker 4: Boston College job and he got it. And yeah, last night,
Speaker 4: I'm sure Boston College has nowhere near the talent that
Speaker 4: Florida State has, but they got a good coach. Those
Speaker 4: guys were bought in and they went out there and
Speaker 4: they kicked their ass to be Hondes with you, which
Speaker 4: was which was great to see. So, yeah, Thomas Castellano's
Speaker 4: he's a guy who transferred to Boston College from Central Florida,
Speaker 4: where he rarely ever got to play. I think he
Speaker 4: was behind Dylan Gabriel, who, of course, you know, left
Speaker 4: Central Florida to go to Oklahoma and now he's at Oregon. Well,
Speaker 4: Castellanos ends up at Boston College, and you know, last
Speaker 4: year I felt like this kid showed enough to where
Speaker 4: he'll probably hit the portal and then he'll end up
Speaker 4: going to a better, bigger school. Well, Bill O'Brien gets
Speaker 4: the job. Castellanos decides to stay at Boston College because
Speaker 4: he wants to work for a guy who has had
Speaker 4: success at the highest level, including the NFL. And yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean Boston College might be a pretty good team.
Speaker 4: I mean, again, tough to know at this point. If
Speaker 4: last night meant Moore said more about Boston College or
Speaker 4: Florida State, probably a little bit of both. For being honest,
Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean Tyler Shuck. That's you know, back
Speaker 4: to to mean, he was a highly regarded recruit for
Speaker 4: the most part, and when healthy, he's looked like a
Speaker 4: good quarterback. But there's been a quiet sense of trying
Speaker 4: to think of the right way to uh, right way
Speaker 4: to describe it. But I've always felt like Jeff Brohm
Speaker 4: had a really good feeling about Tyler Shuck, like he
Speaker 4: wanted Tyler Shuck to be his guy. You know, they
Speaker 4: were able to get him at a pretty good rate price,
Speaker 4: I mean compared to some of the other quarterbacks in
Speaker 4: the portal, which is why once they knew, Okay, here's
Speaker 4: what we're gonna be able to do for this guy.
Speaker 4: Nil if he says yes, then we're good at quarterback.
Speaker 4: We don't need anybody else, Like, we don't need to
Speaker 4: go to the portal. And if you remember, Louisva got
Speaker 4: him pretty early, pretty quickly, and there were some people
Speaker 4: that thought, well, hey, why didn't they wait out to
Speaker 4: see what other guys end up in the portal. Well,
Speaker 4: I think it's because Jeff brom knew, Hey, this kid
Speaker 4: he can do exactly what I need at quarterback. He's
Speaker 4: got the arm, we got to keep him healthy. But man,
Speaker 4: he can play. And there was again I know who
Speaker 4: they played Austin Peek competition not great, trust me, I understand. However,
Speaker 4: Shuck just got to there's a level of confidence you
Speaker 4: can just sense within him that I think is different
Speaker 4: than what we had a year ago. And that's not
Speaker 4: to say he's gonna have a great ye, I mean,
Speaker 4: who knows. We'll have to see what Tyler Shuck can
Speaker 4: do when they play legitimate competition. But all you can
Speaker 4: do is plays on the schedule, and he looked pretty
Speaker 4: damn good in that first half against against against Austin
Speaker 4: p on Saturday. Thank you with the call, Chris, I
Speaker 4: appreciate it. Let's get to a quick break. If you're
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Speaker 8: What's up?
Speaker 6: Nick?
Speaker 8: Just left Thornton's with a peanut butter and jelly doughnut.
Speaker 8: Hell yeah, Hey, I was just gonna comments on the
Speaker 8: fact that there's a couple of things that I see
Speaker 8: that's gonna happen here.
Speaker 7: You know these schools that.
Speaker 8: Have the most alumni, are gonna end up with the
Speaker 8: most money. And if they don't put a cap on
Speaker 8: this thing, then they're gonna end up happen to go
Speaker 8: to like a money tier championship system at some point
Speaker 8: in the future because their school's gonna get left in
Speaker 8: the dust if it's gonna be paid for play. You know,
Speaker 8: a school like Clemson has like a third of the
Speaker 8: alumni of you know, and that spending power that they
Speaker 8: don't have. And real quick about the quarterback play. If
Speaker 8: you don't have a good quarterback, it affects everything that
Speaker 8: that happens.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 8: You imagine you go through your training camp here Clinton,
Speaker 8: you're playing Georgia. You have an awesome you know camp
Speaker 8: off season, everything's looking good. You call play for your
Speaker 8: quarterback to get in rhythm, a nice, easy little outpass
Speaker 8: and he throws it at the guy's feet right off
Speaker 8: the bat, and then the next play run for two yards,
Speaker 8: and then the next play run right into a sack.
Speaker 8: That is so defeating. And you know, we've all been
Speaker 8: on teams that are around teams the inside or outside
Speaker 8: of sports where if somebody's in a leadership roles dropping
Speaker 8: the ball, then the whole team is a loser, and
Speaker 8: that's exactly what's going on down the Clipson. I feel
Speaker 8: sorry for them down there because they're gonna have to
Speaker 8: be subject to another year of Kay Pump thinking he's
Speaker 8: just not good. He looks like a child back there.
Speaker 8: So if you've got a good stolen quarterback that can
Speaker 8: handle pressure, well, then your team will respond. But otherwise
Speaker 8: your entire defense and everyone's gonna quit because they're going
Speaker 8: to know that they don't really have a chance with
Speaker 8: a chump a quarterback.
Speaker 4: Thank you for the call, Patrick, I appreciate it. I'll
Speaker 4: start with your comments about the cap and pay for
Speaker 4: play and whatnot. I think if you're Clemson, you know,
Speaker 4: and Clemson is doing ANIL, I mean they wouldn't. I mean,
Speaker 4: they're participating there, There's no doubt about that, because I
Speaker 4: don't mean there's no way anybody's playing for free at
Speaker 4: Clemson when they know they can get you know, a
Speaker 4: lot of money elsewhere. So you know they're at least
Speaker 4: competitive in that spot. But when it comes to the
Speaker 4: portal like that's just that's choosing not to do something
Speaker 4: that is I mean, it's now part of the job.
Speaker 4: It's now part of the world of college football, really
Speaker 4: college sports in general, is that you need good players
Speaker 4: in order to have success. Right, how you get good
Speaker 4: players used.
Speaker 2: To just be one way.
Speaker 4: You would go recruit high school kids and then they
Speaker 4: would come in and you would develop them. And now
Speaker 4: you know, that's minor compared to the portal. And that's
Speaker 4: not to say you won't still see these I mean, look,
Speaker 4: recruiting at the high school vel always going to be important,
Speaker 4: but now the portal makes it to where it can
Speaker 4: be almost like a secondary kind of thing. I mean
Speaker 4: it sounds crazy because again, for as long as college
Speaker 4: sports has existed, recruiting talent has mattered and it still does.
Speaker 4: But you can go put thirty five forty guys on
Speaker 4: your team in the offseason and the bulk of those
Speaker 4: guys be portal guys, and it's guys you don't have
Speaker 4: to wait on to develop a whole lot. So you know,
Speaker 4: when it comes to the CLEM, I mean, I don't
Speaker 4: understand why Davos Sweeney is not going with the I
Speaker 4: mean I can't other than him just being a stubborn,
Speaker 4: stubborn person, Like what is he anti portal about? Like
Speaker 4: why does that bother him? I don't. I don't get it.
Speaker 4: But anyways, when it comes to nil, when the paying
Speaker 4: of players is done by the school, whenever that happens,
Speaker 4: I guess that's probably next year. Maybe not next season,
Speaker 4: but the season after that. As far as I don't know,
Speaker 4: maybe it is next season where the schools themselves are
Speaker 4: maybe not they're not going to be forced to pay,
Speaker 4: but we all know they're gonna be told that they
Speaker 4: can now pay. And if you are somebody that wants
Speaker 4: to compete at the high level of college sports and
Speaker 4: you make it clear you're not interested in paying, then
Speaker 4: you're not gonna have success. Nobody's gonna want to come
Speaker 4: play for you. So I think the cap on n
Speaker 4: it'll never exist. I mean, here's what you probably should do.
Speaker 4: But if you are somebody that is worried about wasting
Speaker 4: money and they're not really being any good return on
Speaker 4: set investment, collectively, people within the highest level of college
Speaker 4: sports need to get on the same page and let
Speaker 4: transfers and high school kids understand, yes, you will get
Speaker 4: paid to play because now the schools can pay you,
Speaker 4: and you're going to get this allotted money that everybody
Speaker 4: else is getting. And you can also make money through NIL,
Speaker 4: but it's not name, image and likeness. It's really a
Speaker 4: signing bonus. We have to call it an IL, but
Speaker 4: we know that's not what it is. The days of
Speaker 4: you being able to say, hey, we want three million
Speaker 4: dollars to come and play here, that's not happening because
Speaker 4: there's no way you could justify that you have that
Speaker 4: value and that worth. But my gut tells me there's
Speaker 4: always going to be a school that will be able
Speaker 4: to round up money and they'll go pay for that
Speaker 4: because they can they have the resources to do so.
Speaker 4: So I still think you're going to see that number
Speaker 4: climb every year. As far as what the best players
Speaker 4: are able to get for playing college athletics, which again,
Speaker 4: for the longest time that was unhart. You couldn't do that.
Speaker 4: Now it's I mean, this thing is so much in
Speaker 4: our face now as professional sports. Anybody claiming it's not
Speaker 4: is just in complete denial. All right, we got two
Speaker 4: more hours left. We'll talk with Zach Burnett, a football
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