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Speaker 2: It is a busy day in the North Carolina General Assembly,

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a press conference happening in the last hour as it

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relates to a bill calling for government transparency in regards

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to the executive branch and a whole bunch of other

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transparency efforts across the state of North Carolina. Joining us

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this afternoon on the Peak Calendar Show, Brianna Kramer, reporter

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over at Carolina Journal dot com, joins us. Branda, thanks

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for the time you were just at this press conference

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down at the GA. What is the Rains Act and

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why is it relevant to our listeners this afternoon?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, nix, So the Rains Act is being discussed

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this afternoon in Raleigh at the North Carolina General Assembly.

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It was in the House Regulatory Committee this morning and

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it did pass through, and then state legislators just held

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a press conference one hour ago talking about the Rains Act,

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which has been filed now in both the House and

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the Senate, and leaders are going to push this forward

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together in both chambers, so very good likelihood that this

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is going to be a big push in the next

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couple of weeks. So really what they are trying to

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do with the Rains Act is kind of have a

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little bit of more authority over the executive branch in

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North Carolina and really the different rules and regulations that

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come out of the Council of States Offices that the

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General Assembly doesn't necessarily have control over, and there's like

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some big regulations that can come out of the executive branch,

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and they want to be able to monitor these rules

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and put some checks and balances in place to kind

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of rein in on the executive branch.

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Speaker 2: At Representative Alan Chester held the press conference this afternoon,

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and this is how he explained it to North Carolinians.

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Speaker 4: The people of North Carolina deserve to know what regulations

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cost them, especially when they're affecting their day to day lives.

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Doesn't matter if you live in Murphy Maneo or the

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greatest county in the state Nash. This bill requires agencies

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to quantify those costs and explain why they can't quantify them.

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We understand that some of these things are hard to explain,

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but it does not mean we don't make an effort

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to explain to the people why we're doing what we're doing.

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This allows for robust public debate and preserves the regular

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legislative order. This is not a power graph, to be clear.

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It's returning power to the people and their representatives. Polling

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shows that this idea has strong bipartisan support, and for

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good reason. It's about trust, transparency, and accountability. I urge

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my colleagues and the General Assembly to support the nc

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Rains Act and give North Carolinians the oversight that they deserve.

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Speaker 2: Talking about the oversight that they deserve, brand it looks like,

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as I'm reading this legislation, for things coming out of

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the Executive Branch, or really any member of the Council

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of State that has an economic impact of over a

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million dollars over a twelve month period, there would be

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some sort of review process for that. Walk us through it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's really interesting they were describing why this is

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necessary in the state government, and they explain that we

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have roughly one hundred and ten thousand regulations in the

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state of North Carolina, and they have a really high

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success rate of going through the executive branch, around a

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ninety eight percent success rate of just getting approved through

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the regulatory process that just exists within the state government.

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And so this really inhibits taxpayers and the citizens from

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kind of being represented by their state legislators when they're

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trying to hold someone accountable for the rules that affect

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our everyday lives. And so they kind of took that

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into consideration and wanted to put in some kind of

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restraints on anything that could have an economic impact of

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over one million dollars. And so the check that they

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are proposing is having the General Assembly give them an

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approval arm within the regulatory process of anything over a

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million dollars. And so the General Assembly would have a

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role to play in creating government regulations.

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Speaker 2: Well, and obviously you know that we talk about two

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different things, and we've talked about this a lot on

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the Carolina Journal News Hour. You have regulation and then

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you have laws, and laws go through the process of

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the General Assembly through the various committees. Most of the

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time there's public comment and public hearing, Brandon, many of

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the times when we talk about these regulations that come

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out of government that doesn't go through that similar process

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at all. Essentially, it's the stroke of a pen and

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Speaker 3: And that's what they are saying is that, you know,

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you have the General Assembly and everybody throughout North Carolina

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is represented by their elected officials. But then you have

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the executive branch and you have a lot of staffers

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and a lot of people you don't know of who

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are implementing regulations over us, and you know that may

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be taxing with how going through the state legislature as well,

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and so there's really no representation right now, is what

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the Republicans are arguing. And so by giving the General

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Assembly this authority, they're taking away that that lack of accountability,

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and they're giving that to state legislators because right now,

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any kind of regulation would go through a commission, and

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the commission is appointed by the Speaker of the House

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and the President pro tem of the Senate, and so

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that's not including everybody in the General Assembly, and they're

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direct voters.

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Speaker 2: Now I heard some comments and reading your story that

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you had up last week over at Carolina Journal dot com.

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Listening to the comments from Representative Alan Chesser at this

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press conference that took place in the one o'clock hour

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this afternoon, he mentioned that this is not a power grab.

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Is that what's being claimed by some folks on the

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political left, that this is an attempt by the Republican

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led General Assembly to grab even more power from the

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governor and the executive branch.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and that's actually what I was discussed during the

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committee meeting this morning. There was a little pushback. It

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didn't pass unanimously because they had some Democrats not in

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support of this, and one of the main reasons was

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Democrats saying that you're actually creating burdensome and problematic extra

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layers that get in the way and calling it, of

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course a power grab because it really is going to

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reign in you know, Josh Stein and Democrats in the

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Council of State. But what Republicans said to that was

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that you actually have a five to five Republican a

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Democrat representation and Council of State seats, so it's going

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to affect everybody. And they also said this was introduced

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many years ago when we did have a Republican governor

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as well, so it's not really supposed to be targeting

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any any political party. This is just trying to say that,

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you know, we want representation in this regulatory process. And

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interestingly enough, it was also brought up that if we're

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going to do this at the state level, maybe we

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should also be doing this at the federal government level

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as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these regulations oftentimes can be overburdensome and have a

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huge impact on your day to day life. Branda Kramer

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from Carolina Journal dot com is joining us this afternoon

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on the Peak Counter Show. Branna, you're going to be

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doing a write up of this and tracking this as

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it works its way through the North Carolina General Assembly.

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Where can folks read additional details?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can go read the latest on Carolina Journal

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dot com and we'll have a new story up this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Turning our attention to some national politics this afternoon, Chuck

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Schumer is really right now facing probably one of the

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toughest fights of his political career. This all surrounds his

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decision and his comments throughout the middle and latter parts

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of last week over this continuing resolution where he broke

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ranks from Democrats in the House and told and requested

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his Senate colleagues to vote in favor of the GOP

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led CR that would keep the government funded through September. Now,

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there's been many comments and many points made of Chuck

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Schumer's decision. He was blasted immediately by both the current

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and former Speaker of the US House. You had Kim Jefferies,

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currently the minority leader in the House, but Nancy Pelosi,

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the former House Speaker, blasting him in a comment on

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social media. King Jefferies holding an entire press conference last

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Friday to throw stones and shade at Chuck Schumer over

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his vote and his encouraging vote for his Senate Democrat

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colleagues to vote in favor of this CR. And as

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we sit here this afternoon, he continues to face very

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sharp attacks from his party and the base over his

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vote to advance this CR. And it's a very interesting

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political predicament that Chuck Schumer is in. As we talked

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about yesterday afternoon, Chuck Schumer is reading the tea leaves

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right now on the political pulse of America. Two polls

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out over the weekend, one from NBC News, the other

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from CNN show that Democrats approval rating is the lowest

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that it has ever been. In the case of the

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NBC News poll, it's like thirty five years. They've been

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doing the pull since the early nineteen nineties, and for

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the CNN pulicles all the way back to two thousand

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and six, and in both of those polls it is

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the lowest approval rating ever for Democrats. And so for

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Democrats like Chuck Schumer, King Jefferies is kind of irrelevant.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: Republicans in the House don't have to work with him.

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He is in the minority. All you need is a

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simple majority to pass things through the House. They don't

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have to work with him. His thoughts, his party's thoughts

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on things in the House, for a larger part of

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the issues that we'll be seeing over the next couple

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of years, is mostly irrelevant. It just doesn't matter that

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Republicans don't have to work with the King Jefferies, and

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they're not going to. But in the Senate, where you've got,

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of course, the sixty vote threshold, things become very interesting

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for Chuck Schumer. The way that it's set up right now,

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Chuck Schumer is the one that essentially gets to decide

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whether things go through or not under the regular process

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with that sixty vote threshold, that sixty vote margin, and

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so he decided that he was going to encourage Senate,

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his Senate Democrat colleagues to vote for the continuing resolution.

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Since then, he has been getting torched, as I've mentioned,

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from his own party.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: He was on and making his media tour today. He

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was on a couple of different shows. He was on

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CBS's morning news program. He was also on the Illustrious

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View program. And this first clip is from CBS this

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Morning with Chuck Schumer going back and forth with Gail

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King over this vote and over the Democrats for the future.

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Speaker 6: Take a listen, Hakim and I. We have a day

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of action on Medicaid in every state, in every corner

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of the country. Democrats are talking about they're going to

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Medicaid centers, They're going to people who would be described.

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Speaker 7: And Senator Biale don't have faith in the Democrats.

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Speaker 6: Well, let me say this.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Gail King roasting Chuck Schumer. Well, Senator, people don't

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have faith than the Democrats. This party is dealing with

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a major political issue right now, where you've got individuals

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that are not in favor and individuals that do not

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believe and do not trust their own party. And for

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Chuck Schumer, he is in a very very interesting position.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I heard the framing from Hakeem Jefferies that you know,

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after all this is said and done, it's really the

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Republicans that we're going to shut down the government, not

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the Democrats. That's not going to fly anymore. This idea

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of you being the party in the minority, which Democrats

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for a government shutdown, It's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: You can preach it from the mountaintops of MSNBC, you

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can scream it day and night on CNN, it doesn't

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hit with the American public, doesn't resonate with them. And

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I think that's why you're seeing some of this approval rating,

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some of these approval ratings as low as they are

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as the Democrats continue to struggle with this identity crisis

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that's existing right now, voters very much upset with the

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results of the election in November and not sure where

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to go forward with the party. Schumer has postponed a

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book tour that he was supposed to be going on

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due to security threats, not risks coming from Republicans or Conservatives,

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risks from his own party. This is a remarkable situation

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that is unfolding publicly. And I say remarkable because I

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truly mean it. Democrats fight their battles behind the scenes.

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They work out their issues, they work out their disagreements

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behind closed doors, and they emerge a unified front. That

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is how the Democrat Party has been incredibly sick successful

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in their operation of government over the last couple of years.

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They've been able to have their disagreements come to consensus,

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come to conclusions privately, emerge and say this is our

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path forward. We as Democrats are going to sing off

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of this sheet of music. Everybody's marching and walking the

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same way. This is really the first time in a

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very long time that you've seen something like this go

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on in the Democrat Party. Now, if you are a conservative,

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if you're a Republican, this is just another Tuesday, right.

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This is very typical for the Republicans. Those fights always

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spill over into the public and they always just turn

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into it in many cases, just a complete and total

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laughing stock for the party, not for the Democrats though,

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and so Schumer's facing this criticism. He's doing the TV

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tour to try and rehabilitate his image. I guess now

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the idea is he's not going to go anywhere, or

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the idea that Democrats are going to oust Chuck Schumer.

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I don't see that happening in any way, shape or form.

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But this criticism is pretty legit. And it's not just

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coming from the radical elon Omar aoc Rashida Talib wing

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of the Democrat Party. This is coming from Hakeem Jeffreys,

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Nancy Pelosi, individuals that have a large amount of pull,

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a large amount of influence within the operation of Democrat politics.

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Speaker 2: We are discussing a mutiny within the Democrat Party up

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at Washington, d C. As Democrats continue to set their

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sites in on Chuck Schumer, the Senate Minority leader in

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the United States Senate, over his decision late last week

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to vote for the Republican led Continuing Resolution that has

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sparked an encl credible amount of outrage amongst Democrats. You

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had to Keem Jefferies, Nancy Pelosi, and many other Democrats

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calling out Schumer in his decision to vote in favor

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of the CR. And as I was mentioning before the break,

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Chuck Schumer is in a really tough spot right Hakim

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Jeffries can say whatever he wants from the House, his

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opinion and what he does in the House is irrelevant.

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Republicans have the majority, and as long as they stay together,

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as long as Republicans work together, what the Democrats want,

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what the Democrats think, what they care about, it's for

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the most part pretty irrelevant. It doesn't really matter what

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they want to do. He's got control of the Republicans

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rather have control in the House, so it's kind of irrelevant.

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And so that puts Schumer in the Senate in a

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very very precarious situation. Does he stonewall everything that the

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Republicans want to do and deal with the negative media

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press of which there will be for things like a

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government shut down, or does he step across the does

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he work with his colleagues in the United States Senate.

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Does he attempt to work with the Trump administration to

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get something done? Now, of course it's not going to

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be everything that the Democrats want, but they're in the minority.

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And so the report this morning is that he had

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to cancel a book tour that he was planning due

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to security risks and security threats. As Democrats are setting

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their sites in on Schumer and there were reports of

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mass protests that were set to take up at these events.

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Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, our favorite Barista Democrat representative from New York,

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called Chuck Schumer and his decision a betrayal of the

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Democrat party. Also went on to call it quote a

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huge slap in the face, brutal for Chuck Schumer. Definitely

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the largest political backlash that he's received from his party

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thus far. Seven oh four or five seven eleven ten

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is our studio hotline. That's seven oh four or five

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seven oh eleven ten. Let's head on over the line.

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Speaker 6: One.

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Speaker 2: Chris is hanging on the line this afternoon. Chris, you're

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on the Peak Counter Show with Nick Craig. Good afternoon.

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Speaker 5: I'm really digging you Nick here, You're a great addition

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to the family here. Even though I'm partial to Jason

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Lewis where he'll fill them sometimes, still you're a great

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So anyway, let me get right down to it. In

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relation to Schumer's reason reasoning for voting, was he correct

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when he said that Trump would have more power than

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he would have right now? Was that true? He's like

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he's saying he could cut down whole groups of things.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Or was that just a The claim that Schumer made

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was in his justification to the public and to his

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Senate colleagues, was that if we shut down the government

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by not voting for this cr we give Trump more power.

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And I think there's some truth to that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, good, okay, So kind of the party's kind of

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messed up. So let me let me what it really

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quickly explained? Kind of the play I kind of see

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here in relation to kicking the can down the road

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continue resolutions and stuff like that. So what I saw

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is Trump comes in and doge and there's two things

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going on with those. There's stopping current payments near the

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end of the last Contunion resolution in November whatever it

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was December, and then also the savings of the payments

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that hadn't been made, right, So so we have the

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promise of the future, no spending, and then we have

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money in the bank for surplus, a little bit of surplus. Right,

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So when when you get to the Cotunga Grace Resolution

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th September, we have a humongous surplus at this point

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in time, and then at that point in time, we've

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seen what can be cut and we get a full

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through budget from the Republicans. And is that what I

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see is that we get a big surplus on top

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of being able to now we need reconciliation. I don't

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know if that implies that we what we do with that.

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If we give it's just a simple majority, we win

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in that too, right, Yeah, And I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think yeah, And Chris, I appreciate your calling and

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I really appreciate your kind words. It means a lot.

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I think what you laid out there is pretty spot on.

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I mean, let's be honest with this. I don't think anybody,

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myself included, I'm not a fan of continuing resolution. I mean,

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the idea that our government has to operate under CRS

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constantly is incredibly frustrating. However, with this guy being in office,

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Trump at this point in time, less than two full

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months and already dealing with a government shutdown, it would

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be incredibly tough for Trump to continue with any of

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his agenda, with any of the agenda that got him

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the massive electoral victory that he had in November, with

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the government shutdown. Now, from Schumer standpoint, when he makes

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the argument, we've got more leverage, we've got more power

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with the government open than closed, I think he's right

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about that on two fronts, both from the physical elements

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of the government and the second part of it, from

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the perception of it. This government shut down, if it

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did happen, would have fallen exclusively at the feet of

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Senate Democrats, a party that, as we saw over the weekend,

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is struggling big time as it relates to their polling

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and trust from their own voters and from the American

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public as a whole. So this idea that you're going

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to go in vote or vote against the cr and

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shut down the government and then what make demands of

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the administration try and win favor with the American public

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When you just voted to shut down the government, it's

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too pronged. There You've got the physical part of shutting

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down the government, and then you've got the public perception battle,

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which is a very important piece of this equation. And

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I think, if anything, the public perception is probably a

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large reason why Schumer changed his tune earlier last week.

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He was I'm not going to vote for a CR.

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I'm not going to vote for a CR, to then

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saying now, oh, we've got to vote for this thing,

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and he himself and nine other Democrat senators in fact,

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came along and it passed with sixty two votes. Government

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is open and funded until September, and you've got Democrats

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spiraling out of control about this very issue. I've got

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a clip from CNN last night with Scott Jennings, who

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is just phenomenal on their late night show, going back

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and forth with a Democrat lawmaker from New York about

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the continuing Resolution. I'll have that coming up here in

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just a few minutes. I'm Nick Craig, host of the

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Speaker 2: We are discussing this afternoon the ongoing mutiny within the

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Democrat Party as Chuck Schumer has found himself really under

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the crosshairs of individuals within his own party over his

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decision to vote for the Continuing Resolution that was proposed

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by both House and Senate Republicans, and of course the

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Trump administration last week. And now you've got Schumer who's

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having to cancel book tours. He's taking heat from Hakeem Jefferies,

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Nancy Pelosi, AOC, a lot of big time names and

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very influential people within the Democrat Party. Now, this was

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a bit of a discussion last night on CNN. Scott Jennings,

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in his typical form, was battling back against the liberal

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hosts and panelists on the CNN Show last night. Take

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a listen to this back and forth exchange.

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Speaker 8: You know, the proposals they're bringing are horrendous enough for

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us to do that, and we should do that.

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Speaker 7: What's a fright us about the CR It continues putting

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in the government that it is a cut.

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Speaker 8: No, yes, it is if you do not if you

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do not consider the cost of doing business, if you

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do not consider that the cost of living, for example,

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has gone up, that everything has gotten.

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Speaker 7: Now you're changing it's not a cut, you're being a.

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Speaker 2: Cut and I appreciate Scott Jennings calling him out there.

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That's typical Democrat reframing an argument. They claim, oh, it's

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a cut, and instead of arguing the point as to

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why it's cut, he goes, well, everything is more expensive,

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so it's like a cut. Typical Democrat reframing of an

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argument when you call them on their nonsense, it is a.

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Speaker 7: Cut, continues government at the same levels. It's not a cut.

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You voted to shut down the government. You voted to

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lay off every veteran in the federal government. You're making

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a passionate plea for why Democrats didn't shut down the government.

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And now Chuck Schumer can't even have a book tour

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because Democrats are so enraged that the government was And

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I'm just confused because last week I was told that

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people going and expressing their First Amendment rights was part

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of their democratic and civic duty, and now Chuck Schumer

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can't even have a book. Actually think that that Democrats

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are in agreement with you in the sense that they

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probably think Chuck Schumer should, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 9: Take the weeks ago show up, and take the show

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up and take the l as a well, no one's

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saying he can't have its.

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Speaker 2: Guy show up and take the l You mean show

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up and be harassed by Democrats and have threats of

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violence thrown against him and his family. It's not showing

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up and taking the al. He doesn't want a radical

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leftist mob threatening to kill him showing up and add

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his book tour. I don't think that's a realistic framing

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at all.

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Speaker 9: He can do whatever he chose to, but once again

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another example of him deciding to hide. I would love

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for him to go on the book tour so that

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he can answer the questions of the American people. Security

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risk perhaps may be true according to what Abby has

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said and what his office is saying.

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Speaker 7: Who would be the security risk though I don't know who.

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Speaker 2: And the Democrats I don't know who the security risk

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could be. You mean maybe the same people burning tesla's

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throughout the United States right now. Maybe some of the

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same cast of characters that were chanting about how much

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they love Hamas the Iranian backed terrorist organization on college

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campuses last year. You know, the deranged left that loves

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burning cities to the ground, threatening violence against their political opponents.

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You think maybe those are the individuals that might have

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shown up to Chuck Schumer's book tour to voice their

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concern and of course, you know Democrat. Oh, he's got

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to take the l he's got to face the American people.

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He's got to face his voters, a crazy radical leftist

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mob that hates him now because he didn't vote to

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shut the government down. No, thanks, great work there, Continuing

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from Scott Jennings, all.

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