Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Federalist Radio Hour.
As always, you can email the show at radio at
the Federalist dot com. I'm your guest host, DC columnist
for The Federalist Eddie Scary, and joining me today as
always for this episode of the Book Club podcast is
Tristan Justice, Western correspondent for The Federalist. Last month, we
read and reviewed Nancy Pelosi's memoir The Art of Power,
and this month we read former and incoming First Lady
Milania Trump's new book Milania, Tristan, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: Great?
Speaker 1: Good good? All right, So, I know that this book
was pretty short, I think under two hundred pages, and
I actually just to refresh myself, and also I always
like to give a full disclosure on these things. In
the past, it's been that I haven't read the text.
I've been reading the or listening to the audio books.
In this case, I actually never got around reading the book.
But that's okay because we have you. We have you're
such a Milania Trump file and you read the book.
I myself just caught up on the New York Times
book review and got their impression, which is probably going
to be worthless compared to anything you have to say.
But there's a question you like to ask at the
at the top of these, which is did your impression
change after reading the book? I know that it was short,
but maybe there was. And you in conversations we had
prior to this, you mentioned some things that you really
enjoyed about the book. But what was your impression before
the book about Milania Trump? And then did it change
after reading it or during while reading it, and if
so in what way? Well?
Speaker 2: I think the one thing that that New York Times
review got correct was that we didn't really like learn
a ton about Malania Trump from this book. I mean,
especially for a memoir. It was just a little bit
light on a lot of the details that people might
expect from a memoir, let alone from someone so prominent
and so close to power. That's not to say it
was bad book at all. It was you know, it
breezed to read, nice and short. You can read it
in a couple of hours. I read it in like
a day and a half, and you know it was
it wasn't, you know, unenjoyable. It just was a little
bit light on kind of those typical details and memoir
of my author. It's about two hundred pages. Sixty pages
are pictures, So in that way, it's very much a
Trumpian book. She has a lot of she talks about
her time as a model. I did think that the
stuff in here about her childhood was really interesting about
how her upbringing in Europe kind of molded her into
this fashion icon and she was doing all these shows.
And I think there is a misconception about Milania. I
think the public kind of had always seen her as
this woman with a silver spoon in her mouth. She
ended up marrying this billionaire and then it was kind
of that, you know, princess story. That was not my
takeaway after reading this book, though. I mean, she clearly
had a very successful career on her own account, modeling
throughout Europe and then making it big when she moved
across the Atlantic. And so I think that's the big
takeaway from this book is that she was very well
established in and decorated her own career well before she
had met Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Do you so this is a question I have, especially
so your impression seems to not totally veer from the
New York Times review, which was not your impression, but
like a big takeaway I guess is that, I guess
by nature of it being a shorter book, but also
just a lack of revelation at least in terms of
like really getting personal or intimate. And honestly, I feel
like that's the case often with these books. It's very
rare for a big time celebrity of any kind, whether
it's a political figure or you know, singer, pop stars
something like that to really give you, like, you know,
especially when they're still they're still kind of in their prime,
for them to give any kind of like real details,
intimate details. But what do you what do you think
the purpose was of releasing this book? I guess, And
that's there's kind of two parts to that one with
the timing she released it a month before the election,
and also just if she wasn't going to say if
she wasn't going to make a lot of news with
this book about or in any way kind of make
big revelations that people wouldn't know and be like they
would be like, oh my gosh, I had no idea,
and like that's really interesting about a first lady and
what will soon be again and our first lady again
after a short break. What do you think was the
purpose of the book, Well, at.
Speaker 2: The end of the day, it's a campaign book. I
mean it was released exactly a month before election day,
with like four weeks togo Trump was still obviously running
for president. I think she was going to do a
memoir where she kind of settled some scores, which a
lot of White House staffers tend to do in their
White House memoirs post administration. That book will probably come
after a second Trump term. I did think she writes so.
I actually ended up reading two books for this podcast,
just because it was a little bit short. I read
Stephanie Winston Wolkoff's book Milania and Me. And of course
these White House memoirs could be so so gossipy, and
this is the woman who ended up recording Milania and
then sending the audios to CNN and other outlets about
I think actually might have just been CNN, but she
had recorded Malania and then published the tapes to try
to make her look bad. And as gossipy as these
books are, it was interesting. But you know, the book
where Lania might share details that she might otherwise not
be interested in, that would come after twenty twenty eight.
I did think it was interesting where she alludes to
kind of some tension in the family talking about she
didn't really dive into it, but it was kind of
clear in one page that Milania didn't really have doesn't
really have kind of the closest relationship to some of
the kids in the family, And that kind of dynamic
was outlined a lot more in Stephanie Winston Wolkoff's book
about how Avanka and Lania never really saw eye to
eye throughout the administration.
Speaker 1: That's interesting and I feel like that's still that it
really would be good to get a book like a
real whether it's a first hand account from her or
just an honest and true and fair account done by
a biographer, because I think there there is still so
much question about the decision she makes and like her,
what her feelings are about being a first lady about
her husband. Because I don't know now that you say
that this was for sure a campaign book, I would
I would say during the time that we've seen, you
know Trump as a political figure running for office in
twenty sixteen, because honestly, I date Trump's political career in earnest,
like when he was sincerely asserting himself as a factor
in politics, was actually twenty twelve. I don't know if
you remember that far back, but that basically coincided with
when I had just gotten out of college, and you
know that was there was a twenty twelve election re
election effort for obuying, excuse me, Obama, and then there
was a pretty wide open field for the Republican nominee.
But Trump was really flirting with getting in, getting into
the race, and I really do think he was. He was,
he was kind, he was serious about wanting to get in.
I think he ultimately decided that he probably would lose
to Obama, which I thought was probably true, though, I
will just say, what do you say.
Speaker 2: Well, I just think Obama in a lot of ways
was an unbeatable candidate, especially in two thousand and eight
and probably still in twenty twelve. I mean, I'll just
never I went to Obama's opening kickoff ranleying Columbus for
re election twenty twelve, and just such a compelling speaker.
I didn't think it would have taken a very unique candidate,
even beyond the capabilities of Donald Trump, to defeat Obama's
momentum in twenty twelve. I just seeing it in Ohio
was overwhelming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that's probably true. We'll never know. Obviously,
I will say that Trump, just like he did in
twenty sixteen, generated excitement within the Republican Party that nobody
else was doing, but he ultimately backed out. And then
the last thing I will say about that real quick
is just that his son did say I was listening
to a podcast with I forget which one, but it
was with Eric Trump. I believe where he said the
reason why Donald Trump did not run in twenty twelve
was because he said that our family just wasn't ready
to be like in that arena. So maybe that was
the calculation. But I don't remember Malania Trump during that
period of time to the twenty twelve period where Trump
was really considering running and talking about the birther stuff,
but also also a lot of other things that he
continued talking about and still does that were really catching
fire and catching attention with people who did want him
to run. But I don't remember her much around that time,
but ever since, say twenty sixteen, her presence in a
lot of ways to me has seemed like this. I
don't know if I would use the word reluctant, but
almost like you know, I'm so going to show you
that I really don't care, which would literally go back
to that jacket that she wore, that I'm going to
do things that almost as a form of contempt I
have for what you think I should be doing. So
you said it's a campaign book, so she goes, Oh,
I'm expected to do a campaign book as the first lady.
I'm going to put out this flimsy book where I
tell you nothing and it's going to be just a
bunch of pictures. And I mean, again, that's me maybe
reading into it, but I just feel like when she
shows up to when she shows up in a way
that's like that's something that traditional first ladies would do it,
she does it in a way that to me seems
to want to signal her contempt for it. What do
you think, Well.
Speaker 2: I think it's important to remind people that she is
intensely personal in private, excuse me private. She's always been
intensely private, and that is true throughout the entire administration.
That's probably going to remain true throughout the next administration.
She was rarely on the campaign trail the past two years.
The media always makes stuff up about that, and even
Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, who is a confident of Milania's for
in like years and years and years, talked about this
in the book how the media is always so eager
to manufacture stories about Milania that just weren't true Milania.
I remember reading in the book about how and Stephie
Winston's book about how the media made up a story
about Malania swatting Donald Trump's hand after they got off
a plane behind some dignitaries and then they also the
free Mlania campaign came out of the inauguration when she
had some type of look on her face. She looked
at Trump with a smile after he had been sworn in,
and then Trump looks away and then she's immediately like scowling.
The media created this, oh, free Malania campaign, like she's
trapped under John Trump's wing when reality, she explains, and
Stephanie Winston explains in her book about how actually no
baron had stomped on her foot accidentally or something in
her but I mean Milania, she she totally understands that
the media is instinctively hostel towards her and her family.
She's like her husband in in a lot of those
political calculations, and she's intensely personal, and so I guess
I wasn't too surprised that there wasn't really a ton
of meat in this new in this book in October
to kind of chew on on some of those those
different scandals. But I do think she she really throughout
the book, does you know, take a hammer to the media,
which would also make sense given that this was a
campaign book anyway.
Speaker 1: For sure, you know, if I was going to ask,
like if I had a chance to interview Malania, and
I actually did put forth a very like kind of tepid,
timid feeler out there because you know, and we've talked
about this before, that she's actually fairly active and engaged
with the like the Gated Republican group, log Cabins and
probably some others. But I know, heaven for sure she's
headline fundraisers for them, and to my knowledge, that's the
only overt artist in politics that she engages in it
all other than you know, seeing her gift speeches for
her husband, but you don't really see her campaign for him.
You don't see her meeting doing any other form of fundraiser,
if not just like appearing with her husband you don't
see her doing it independently with anything other than gay
Republican groups, which I find really interesting. Though again that
might that might go to my which I mean, I've
always found Donald Trump to be a gay friendly Republican
more so than anyone in history, in history. Gay wedding
at mor Laga. Oh right, that's right, Yeah, I forgot
about that. But you know, I think again that kind
of might go to my point. That's like, she does
this thing, it's that's completely oh yeah no, but I
am involved. And look, it's a gay Republican group, you know,
and it's just like meant to like rub it in
people's faces. Perhaps perhaps not, but anyway, if I was
going to ask her, Oh, what I was getting at though,
is that I actually did va via the gay Republican
group that she interacts with. I asked one of their
leading figures there, like, hey, do you know does she
do interviews? And he said blackly, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: Okay. So that's interesting because about three weeks ago I
did the same thing.
Speaker 1: Dially.
Speaker 2: Yes, I asked someone in that network, because I have
this book on body positivity coming out. Of course, given
how so I she writes, she talks about her new
modeling career in this book, and I thought, Okay, if
she's going to do a press tour and she's going
to go on Fox News and talk about her plans
for the Be Best Initiative, what better issue to put
into her Be Best initiative against childhood obi against childhood
bullying than a new campaign against childhood obesit except accomplishing
what Michelle Obama couldn't accomplish back in twenty ten with
the Let's move campaign, So with the whole you know,
make America Healthy Again movement, It's just she could really
make her mark on the administration's efforts against chronic disease
by going after childhood obesity, except doing it successfully this time.
So I actually tried to interview her a month ago,
asking if she wants to talk about maybe what some
of those plans might be, because she did go on
Fox and say I'm going to continue my Be Best Initiative,
So we know she's going to continue working on child's issues,
and I just think there couldn't be a better better
thing to put into that campaign than childhood ab And
she talks about her campaign throughout this book. She obviously
cares a lot about the issue, and she talks about
nude modeling and kind of you know, it's important to
be a body positive in terms of honoring the human body,
treating it as a temple, and just kind of align
with a lot of the ideas and my own book
coming out this month. But she does so few interviews
that they threw so much cold water, And that was
almost embarrassed that I asked it was it was. It
was a hard no, But my invitation's open.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you tried, and early congratulations to you on your book.
Too bad for neither of us. We got to interview Malania,
But what I was going to say was that there
are some kind of obvious I'd have a lot of
questions for her, but some obvious ones would be you
know what, I'm actually very curious about her relationship with
her son, who she seems to absolutely dote for. I
would love to interview Baron too, but just seems to
like dope for him, and like I would want to,
I would want to ask her and see how she
talks about him, her son, Baron, I would want, but
I would also want to ask what was it like
and what for you to sit there and watch the
media coverage. If you did, you must have heard things
about what was going on with the Stormy Daniels scandal.
What did you you know when when those tapes were
leaked with your phone conversations with what's her name, Stephanie
Stephanie Winston. Yeah, so those tapes, And I actually I
bet you probably had the same impression that those tapes
actually made me kind of like her more because she,
like she said at one point, like they want me
to focus on Christmas and who gives an f about Christmas?
And I mean, I love Christmas, but I just thought
it was funny, like to hear her who you would
have never expected or you can almost like not imagine
her talking like that. But you know, so there's there's
certain questions like that, and my understanding is that, Oh
and then obviously like the Gene Carrol stuff, the Access
Hollywood tape, you know those kind how did you did
you did you help your husband? Did you feel that
it was like or did you just stay out of it? Like?
How did did you strategize with your husband on these issues?
Those are questions I have, and I think obvious questions,
But my understanding is pretty much anything you'd want to
see like that is absent from the book. Did you
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she doesn't really talk about a ton
of that. She does talk about how she felt that
she was treated unfairly by the media, and I think
that's really obvious to anyone who had been watching. I mean,
I'll never get over how ridiculously hostile the wash Sheet
post was, in particular to Milania, especially on the Christmas decorations.
I think it was December twenty eighteen, so is right
before COVID, but Milania put up this amazing Christmas display,
and then the Washington Post is calling it cold, and
you know, the ice Queen in the White House is
you know, the witch of the White House and just
doing everything it can hear her. It was clearly a
political hit job. But then you go look at the
coverage of these outlets of anything anything Michelle Obama did,
and it was always, oh, look at her arms, look
at her you know, go queen. I mean it was
this type of you know, Oprah winfree style coverage that
you can expect for for any Democrats in the White House.
Winnie Trump didn't get any of that she needed, didn't
get any grace from the from the media. They just
raked her over the coals a month after month, they
after day, and she just took it because I think
she understands, just like her husband does, that the media
is instinctively hostile to them and they're never going to
get the coverage that they frankly should have.
Speaker 1: Well, and then you know there's a special hatred that
the media have for I would say that you could
that you could argue that it's it's it's equal, but
actually I think it's worse for women who or Donald
Trump or associate with him. They have a very similar
hatred for ethnic minorities who support or associate with Donald Trump.
But I do think that it is especially vitriolic for
women like Sarah Sanders, like Kelly and Conway, like his wife.
And I think that it's because it's this idea that like,
you're a woman, and you're working against women by supporting
Donald Trump. And I think that that's not very obvious
with Milania. But one case I would say where that
was really really striking and so obvious, and I can't
believe that. I can't believe it was made so obvious
was during twenty twenty with the COVID stuff, and you
had two main figures who were kind of like the
face of the Corona Virus task Force, White House task Force.
You had Anthony Fauci and then you had Deborah Burkes.
Every story about and there was daylight between the two
of them. Absolutely not with the things they said. But
any story you read about Anthony Fauci was about how
he's steadying the ship, he's pushing back against Donald Trump.
He's this sex symbol, this follow the science. Any story
about Deborah Burkes was about how she's subservient to Donald Trump,
how she acquiesces to what he wants, to the politics
that favor him, and that was just simply not true,
and it was it just reeked of sexism to say
that while Anthony Fauci the man who he's actually like
in charge here, whereas she's just who's saying nothing any different,
doing nothing any different. She's subservient to the president. And actually,
you know, you have to suspect, you have to be
suspect of anything she says. But of course that's that
is true. I think of Milania Trump and the things
that you know, she was a very elegant first lady.
She did do I think a great job with those decorations.
Then you look at what we saw was that last
Christmas where they had that absolute freak at the White
House under Biden. It was weird.
Speaker 2: I mean, the one of Christmas stuff under Biden was
just bizarre. I mean, I don't really know if there's
any other way to put it.
Speaker 1: No, for sure, But so was there any indication in
the book of what a return to a role as
for well, I guess you said that she said on
Fox News that she has some plans, But was there
anything in the book that kind of maybe would have
previewed what a second, you know, a Milania Trump first lady,
where ducts would look like.
Speaker 2: I think it'll look a lot like the first I
do think that she is going to be a lot
more effective in this new administration. Just I think across
the board, the administration is going to be more effective
after learning all the lessons of their first administration. She
really didn't get the full staffing that she needed to
really launch her project until well well into Trump's first term.
I think that dynamic is probably going to change going
to this next year, and I think that the entire ministry,
entire White House is just going to make better personnel
decisions across the board, and they're going to make them
a lot earlier on. I think Malania Trump is going
to have a team, a very effective team assembled early on.
So I think we can expect to see a lot
more of mania in this in this next administration, especially
now that Baron is in college and he's not still
going to school and kind of needing to support that
she she had to offer while Trumpet, while Donald was
running the country. So I think that's something I do think.
I am optimistic that she will do something on childhood obesity.
She absolutely should. It will be perfect in an administration
that's going to be much more forceful on this issue
than the Obamas were. So when I was writing my book,
there's a whole chapter chapter in my book on childhood
obesity and how Michelle Obama's campaign just failed because the administration,
the Obama White House, was too reluctant to go after
the corporate industry. So Michelle Obama is doing this doing
what Democrats always do, frankly, which is run celebrity fused
infused campaigns across social media and luxure Americans to do
whatever Democrats want them to do. So Michelle Obama goes
on Ellen di Jenner's show and dances into the social
media campaign asking Americans to give them. Quote was like,
give me five those like the hashag they were doing,
and show five things that people were doing to live
a better, healthier lifestyle. Okay, I don't know anyone who
would take that seriously. I mean, I don't know anyone
who's going to post on Twitter, here's five things, and
just that message doesn't going to resonate. I think it's
an example of kind of elite lecturing that I don't
think Trump and Robert F. Kennedy in this new Make
America Healthy Again movement is going to do. I mean,
you see Donald Trump standing on stage to Robert F.
Kennedy railing against chronic disease and then he's serving French
fries at a McDonald's stride through window at first glance,
is an obvious contradiction, right, Make America Health Again and
then come to McDonald's. But I think Robert F. Kennedy
made a good point in that fast food didn't always
have to be so unhealthy.
Speaker 1: Fat food.
Speaker 2: French fries in particular, used to be fried with beef
tallow as opposed to all these seed oils that we're
using in all these restaurants because it is so much cheaper.
And so I think the Trump administration is going to
be far more effective going after chronic disease because they're
actually going to go after corporations that have really engineered
foods to become as addictive as possible, just like big
Tobacco did throughout the twentieth century. And I think with
that type of approach to this, there is a lot
more possibility to be a lot more effective. I mean,
I don't think the I think people kind of rub
their noses at whatever Michelle Obama was doing in the
White House because it was this elite lecturing. And I
think that to make America healthy again, a Americans are
realizing how sick they'd become and be They're realizing, Okay,
it's not actually all Americans fault, it's really corporations hijacking
these these reward centers of our brains, just like big tobacco.
And I think if we go after the corporations, go
after food addiction and call it what it is, there's
going to be some chance for success in this. And
I think that's where Milania Trump has an opportunity to
really make an impact.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I always feel like on things like that,
the biggest impact you can make is just leading by example.
Like I don't really need like a lesson or a
marketing campaign. I just need to see you exercising and
eating right and living in a way that, like you know,
is clearly beneficial to you. So it would it might
actually which I'm sure we're not going to get, but
it might actually be better if she was a little
bit more visible in whatever way possible that could. They
could convey that you think that's.
Speaker 2: Just one Just to know on that real quick to
put that in perspective too, Americans in twenty ten, we're
still reeling from the two thousand and eight financial crisis. Okay,
So so nobody wanted to be lectured about needing to
eat you know, more expensive organic foods and fruits and
vegetables while they're still trying to cope with whether they're
going to lose their house. Well, it's variosumerministration that's telling
them to spend more money to buy better food, is
giving handouts to all the big banks and letting Americans
go under. And so now you know, fifteen years later
and we're in ten Americans suffering one chronic disease six
and ten suffering two Americans understand they're sick and with mania.
Trump doing a campaign against childhood bullying. What better initiative
to put in that against childhood bullying than combating childhood obesity.
I mean, that's been It's like some of the worst
commons kids receive is about their weight and their appearance.
Now you have, you know, childhood obesity off the charts.
It's even higher than it was after the Obama's left office.
You have rates of type two diabetes doubling under lockdowns.
You have one in five kids now categorically obese, and
so obviously it's a national crisis. Our military readiness has suffered,
it's national security issue. And you know, we're not in
the same type of peril that we were in twenty ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a different time, and I think people have
you know, their perceptions have changed, and a lot of
that is because of their their financial situation has changed
for the better. Okay, we'll only got a couple more minutes,
but here's here's a question I've got for you related
to Malania's book. Something that I feel is, I don't
know if most people would frame it this way, or
if I would think that it's at least in the
back of people's minds that it's hard to get a
sense of like what is it that makes her happy? Like?
And I would say the same thing has been true
up until this campaign. Honestly, it has been true. It
has been true to me that I could not you
could not ask me what is it that Donald Trump
likes other than golf? What is it that he truly
enjoys delights him? Like a movie, a book that he's
read songs that he likes to hear. I think we
know a lot about that more now, and a lot
of that has to do with I think it was
really a strategic campaign decision to do that, and a
lot of it was kind of on exhibition and he
in his these multi hour long podcast interviews he was
doing where it's just a conversation and they do ask
him these type of questions like, oh, like what's the
best movie you've seen? Or like, what was it like
writing the plane? And then he goes on these long stories.
And when I really got a simple was something that
I'd never heard him say any any kind of story
like this before. Was he was on I forget whose
podcast it was, but they asked him a dumb question.
I don't even I don't think it was even like specifically,
what was your favorite movie?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 1: But he talked about how he was on an airplane
and they had nothing for him, like you couldn't get
do internet, you couldn't do anything, but they had videotapes.
He actually said videotapes, which is kind of crazy. He
said they had videotapes, So I told them go ahead,
and and he just picked one. He said, put that
one in. It was and it was Braveheart. And he
was like and literally, within like the first like forty
seconds of watching this movie, I thought that was the
greatest movie ever. This must be the best movie ever done.
And I'm just like, okay that I've never heard Donald
Trump say Donald Trump say, like, what does he genuinely enjoy?
What delights him? What kind of entertainment did you reading
the book get a sense of that anything at all
from like malaniay, like things that she truly enjoys doing,
or media she consumes, anything like that.
Speaker 2: So that's a very interesting question. And I was actually
kind of surprised to see she likes cars. She talks
about growing up in Europe and how her dad was
she So I think she likes luxury cars, which kind
of surprised me. And then I don't know why I
just did. I think I think her health. I think
she gets a lot of joy from being healthy. I
think that was true in seventy Winston Wolkoff's book too,
And I think that's you're talking about leading by example.
I think that's pretty clear. I think, but again, she's
such a intensely personal, private person that there wasn't really
a ton of that throughout this book.
Speaker 1: Now that's because you know that. That's again, if I
was to interview, those are the kinds of things I
would really like, do you do you ever watch TV?
And if you do, what shows do you like? Or
do you like what do you watch reality TV? Like
all those kinds of things. And I mean, sometimes when
what's that, well.
Speaker 2: I would say, I I have a book in front
of me, and she she talks about she she likes
fine art, she likes to go to museums. She strikes
me as a smarter person. People probably give her credit
for the media seems to underestimate her and just about
every aspect of her life. But yeah, I would her
interest to me seeing like health, beauty, art, fashion, modeling, cars,
and but I she might have talked about kind of
music she liked for some reason, I wish I'd underlined
the books. I'm not saying now, but I recall her
talking about the music she would listen to with Donald
when they first met, and the trips that they would take.
And so yeah, I mean she's not this like boring
robot of a person. The media it makes her out
to be. She's just private.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I mean it is interesting you mentioned the
car thing because it was it was that was something
specifically mentioned the New York Times review was that she
really enjoyed the smell of the leather that of the
maserati her dad had purchased. I think that was. Wasn't
that something that he bought a maserati and.
Speaker 2: She liked the leathers accurate?
Speaker 1: All right, well, we're running out of time. This was fun.
We got to pick another book for our next one.
I guess we'll be picking some some terrible, miserable liberal
to be reading either their memoir their book that you know,
what we really should do is I mean we're we
can discuss this offline. We really should read some media
figure like you know, like a Joy Read book or
that's idea, not a Rachel Maddow book, I think Brian Stelter. Yeah, yeah, okay,
that's that's maybe a good one, Brian Steltz. But yeah,
we need to read some like we don't need to
because we've done now two political figures plus Millennia Trump.
We need to read like some like hysterical like cave
like MSNBC or CNN liberal and see how that goes,
Does that sound good to you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And we yeah, we should actually invite some readers to
if anyone has ideas of who we should read to
show too, for sure, I'm just curious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, email the show and again that email is
radio at the Federalist dot com. But all right, Tristan,
this was fun and all of you you've been listening
to another edition of Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Eddie Scary.
We'll be back soon with more. Until then, be lovers
of freedom and anxious for the fray