Speaker 1: NHL Best bets for Monday, December. First, that's right, November
is in the past and it is officially December. Looking
forward to going over some sides, totals, props, all that
good stuff. Play of the day from Carmine, same game,
parlay for me, all kinds of stuff to get into.
Hope you all had a great, great weekend. I know
a lot of you guys probably doing some traveling, visiting family.
Great great week Yesterda last week if you were in
the States celebrating Thanksgiving. Hope you enjoyed the NFL slate
and also hope you guys enjoyed a great weekend of
NHL action. Carl, I'll bring you in man, Hope you
had a great weekend as well. It sounds like from
when we've talked, it was a good weekend for you.
Speaker 2: Man. The NHL right now.
Speaker 1: It's so competitive, Like yesterday, I was going over the standings,
I was looking at how close it is from you know,
the bottom of one conference to the top of the conference,
or the middle of a division to the top of
the division. But the injuries just keep adding up, like
this had the potential to be one of the best
NHL seasons we've had in years, and the only thing
holding it back is the injuries. But I'm super excited, man,
Like you look at it right now. The Metropolitan Division,
the Atlantic Division, the Pacific Division, the Central every single
division is very competitive. And it's one of my favorite
things about hockey is that the draft works. The draft
does what it's supposed to do.
Speaker 2: And you.
Speaker 1: Look at cel Brainy, you look at Badard, you look
at some of these bottom tier teams that are starting
to get better at Karmen, it's really really good to see.
So how is your weekend. I'll bring you in, Karma.
What do you think about that right now? I mean,
it seems like there's more parody in the league than
we've had in the very long time.
Speaker 2: It's great to see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is great to see. The Buffalo Sabers are
only ten points out of the number one seed in
the Eastern Conference. They're also in last place, but I digress. No,
it's great. You want to see parody. And then you
have teams that are having just phenomenal seasons like the
Colorado Avalanche, and I have a futures bet on Colorado.
So I'm a little worried because when a team is
playing as well as they are, you just wonder at
some point, you know, we saw it with like the
Boston Bruins a couple of years back or whatever, where
they just played they had just an unbelievable season where
they had like one hundred and thirty something points and
then they get bounced in the first round against the
Florida Panthers. But Colorado it is, you know, their first
full season with Landeskog back in the lineup, and they're
just unbelievable. Twenty five games Andrew they have only lost
in regulation once. It is unbelievable, and only seven losses
for that team. They're playing great. So but yeah, no,
So it was a good weekend. Anyone who picked up
that Thanksgiving Day show with me at sixty seven dollars
for seven days, thank you very much. And I will
say this, it has been a phenomenal four days for
that promo with me sixty nine percent eighteen and eight
up twenty five point nine four units, which is the
best record during that promo wager talk. So, but that said,
I lost my last play of the day yesterday. Actually
I didn't because the Buffalo Bills did win for me
in the NFL. But the Anaheim Ducks three nothing first period,
and it's just come on, guys. They blow at three
nothing lead, scored nothing else after that. Spencer Night played
phenomenal from the first after those three goals, and Bdard Man,
that guy is such a superstar. Two power play goals
for the Hawks, and the Ducks went quacking out of
there with zero points. Andrew the six and sixty. We
almost almost swept the six and sixty five and one
for the six and sixty, or actually it was a
six in seventy three because it took me seventy three
seconds to do that one. If any of you guys
followed that six and sixty, thank you very much. And
then the last selfless promo that I'm or the thing
I'm going to talk about is Friday the New York
Rangers a five percent play for me, it is it
is that game when I one o'clock and they pretty
much ran over the Bruins. They were like one twenty
seven when I posted it. About a half hour. An
hour before the game, they announced that Pasternach and Zaka
are out corpus Alo's in net, which I knew. It
was part of my analysis that I wrote for clients
and the line blew up to like one seventy one
seventy five. So with that said, they still got the money.
Pretty much everybody bought it before that in the day
before because I posted early. So I'm happy to end
the month with a five percent winter, So thank you
to everyone who picked that up. With that said, Andrew,
this is a huge week, somewhat balanced the schedule in
the NHL. We have multiple games every single day, none
of these fifteen and then only one the next day
type of thing. So we're going to talk Columbus and
New Jersey. We're going to talk Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. We
have to talk about those two teams that rivalry, and
we're going to end it with Utah and the San
Jose Sharks. And if you guys have any questions, drop
them in the chat. Andrew will save them and hopefully
we can answer them for you guys at the end
of the show. There you go, Andrew. I think I'm
coming down with something. I'm a little under the weather.
My wife is sick, so I've been taking care of her.
But I'm pumped for today's show and I'm pumped for
this week in the NHL, a new month, a new
big let's get going. Columbus at New Jersey the Devils
one forty eight Andrew plus one twenty two on Columbus.
The total sits here at six. How are you looking
at this one?
Speaker 1: We got a comment in the chat here talking about
still no Marchenko from John Madden, and I'll tell you,
karm I know I used this expression a lot, but
if Marchenko played for any other big team in the league,
he would get way more credit, way more media, way
more pub He's an unbelievable player. He is a really
good player for this Columbus Blue Jackets team, and unfortunately
he might not get the recognition he deserves. But he
was on like a twelve or thirteen game point streak
at one point in this young season. And of course
since he's gone out, been a little bit different for
the offense for this Blue Jackets team. Now overall, looking
at the last couple of games for them, at least
for them, I can say that they're a little bit rested.
No game for them on Saturday, no game for them
on Sunday. Their last game was on Friday against the
Penguin that did lose that one, four to three and overtime.
In fact, three of their last or four to their
last five games have actually gone to overtime. So I
don't usually mention this, but kind of worthy of a
little sprinkle on the draw on that because you're gonna
get plus three hundred or the late two hundreds on
most of those. Looking at New Jersey, the health updates
on that team. Obviously still know Jack Hughes, that's huge
for them going down the lineup. Kind of just looking
at these injuries, still dealing with Brett Peschi being out,
Dodaannov being out, Jack Hughes being out, Covid Savage being out,
it does make a little bit of a difference for
that team as well. But when I look at the
number here, looking over at odds logic, we're gonna see
New Jersey open up minus one sixty pennies currently showing
minus one forty three. I think that, Karen, when I
look at this Devil's team, we have to put them
in the upper of the NHL.
Speaker 2: We do.
Speaker 1: We talk about the Colorados of the world, but this
this Metropolitan Division is more competitive this year than it's
been in years past, which is great to see. But
this New Jersey Devil's team has been pretty consistent, and
I got to give them credit because even with the
Jack Hughes injury, they've still found a way to step
it up. They've won three their last four games. They've
been handing teams ls and I know that they have
been playing some non playoff teams, but overall, I am
impressed with what they've been doing. So this Blue Jackets
team is kind of starting to show who they are
a little bit, and they're starting to kind of dry
up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The rest should be a good thing for them, but
I think the rest would be a good thing for
them defensively.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to look towards the under.
Speaker 1: Six or under six and a half, whatever you can
get the best number possible. But I do lean towards
the Devils in this game, and if I'm gonna play
the Devils, I would look towards the Blue Jackets team
total under two and a half. A lot of times
I look towards the team total over for whatever team.
Speaker 2: Is the favorite.
Speaker 1: But let's go through this Devil's team and look at
a lot of the victories that they've had in the past.
You look at their victory over the Sabers. They shut
them out their win over the Blues, they kept them
under three goals. A lot of the games that this
Devil's team is going to win, karm it's because of
the backbone, because of the defense that they have, And
looking at the updated number for that team total, you
can get Columbus under two and a half goals at
plus one oh five, So we'll see. Look, I'm still
impressed with this Columbus team and they're actually fun to watch.
But you and I both know this guy Jeck Grieves
and some of these younger players on Columbus, are they
maybe overstepping and overachieving with what their actual value is
or is that just who they are?
Speaker 3: I think I think it's who they are right now.
Like I think we're we're opposite on this one, and
I'm a lot of it has to do with the
players that I'm missing out of New Jersey, and I
think a lot of it. They've gotten some wins, Andrew,
but the numbers don't support it. And so on Saturday night,
when I released I recently three plays, one of my
plays was the Buffalo Sabers in Minnesota, who just came
off a huge win against Colorado, And I remember someone
saying to me, did you type that incorrectly? Did you
mean to take Minnesota instead of Buffalo. I'm like, no,
I meant to take Buffalo. Because you look at the
Buffalo game against New Jersey, and New Jersey won five nothing.
So when you look at that game, you're like, New
Jersey did what they're supposed to do. They're a better
team than Buffalo, and they dominated the Sabers and they
won five nothing. No, they didn't. You look at the
numbers and here's like part of the write up that
I had in that game. Andrew five nothing game on
Friday night, New Jersey beats the Sabers the Saber. The
x G in that game was four point three eight
to one point eight six for the Savers. They generated
almost four and a half goals I expected goals scored
none one eighty six. High danger chances eighteen to eight
for the Buffalo Sabers. Shots on goal forty two to
twenty three for the Buffalo Savers. The shots on goal
aren't the greatest analytic one, but the first two are.
The Savers had chances. The Savers created opportunities to score,
to score. It was the goaltending in that one, and
then they go to Minnesota and they get to the
backup because thankfully they didn't have to face Walstead, who
faced the Colorado Avalanche. I thought getting the Sabers at
plus one thirty five, one thirty four, one thirty five
was a great opportunity for them to get to win.
And this is why I want to take Columbus. Plus
one twenty two is Columbus. When Columbus creates chances, they
score goals, and if they can even get to three
in this game, honestly believe, as tough as New Jersey
normally is to beat on home ice, they that is
when they're at full strength and fully healthy, this is
probably an opportunity where you might be able to cash
an underdog at plus one two with Columbus. So that's
where I'm going to go. If Jack Greeves is starting
and he's on his game, he's been playing extremely well.
If they get the three in this game, they might
be good enough for one of those three two victories
for the Columbus Blue Jackets.
Speaker 1: Well, the under can work, then we'll take the under.
Carm I don't mind that, So yeah, I mean, look,
does it mean anything different to you. I'm going to
pull my rebuttal to you. Does it mean anything different
to you that the Devils are coming off a loss,
you know, game in which they gave up five goals.
You know, maybe maybe it'd be more I'd be more
interested in fading them if they're coming off a huge win.
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't, because I think when normally I think
this sort of the upper I'll refer to them like
sort of the upper echelon teams once you know the Colorado's,
the teams like Colorado, teams like Dallas. Right now, I'm
not going to put Edmonton into that category because they
have too many issues on the back line and between
the pipes and just playing defense as a whole. When
those teams lose a game, I would love to come
back with them, and I kind of did with on
Saturday as well too, and they lost to Minnesota, and
I took them on the puck line against the Montreal
Canadians and they got there fairly easy because you had
a Canadians team coming off a huge win in Vegas
and I just couldn't see them putting that same effort
in against Colorado. So Colorado awful loss. That's when I
want to play New Jersey until they're fully healthy. And
if you're going to sustain some injuries, now is the
time to do it. Get healthy, because as long as
you're treading water and getting into the play offs, or
you're picking up enough wins to keep you in the
top eight in the Eastern Conference, what matters in the
Eastern Conference is how you play the last twenty games
of the season and then the playoffs. That's all that matters.
You ask teams like Tampa Bay when they won the
two Stanley Cups, that sort of you know what I mean,
Their seasons were ebbs and flows throughout, but they got
it done. You look at the same thing with you know,
with Florida. So I'm not big on having to play
your best hockey all season long. That's what worries me
about Colorado. They haven't hit they haven't been hit by
the injury bug. New Jersey has been hit by the
injury bug.
Speaker 1: So the thing they're so deep, right, Like, the thing
is like McKennon is obviously unbelievable, in Natchius is unbelievable.
But the brock Nelson line has really stepped it up.
The fourth line has stepped it up, Like that's the
biggest difference. When I watch Colorado, it's like every line
that jumps over the boards could really hurt you with
that team. But I like what you're saying. And that's
the funny thing is that things are going to change
when it comes to these standings, because you know how
people always say, like in the hockey world, like American
Thanksgiving is a good benchmark for which teams are in
the playoffs are doing well. But at the end of
the day, so many teams were four points out, six
points out. It's not like it was that much of
a The only team in the East that's really run
away with anything right now is Tampa Bay and they're
only what six points up from the second place team
in the Atlantic, So it's not like it's that much
of a difference. But I agree with you because at
some point each team is going to go on a
little bit of a run or a little bit of
a downward spiral, and you've been picking those kind of
like my old buy and sell segment right like that
graphic you had, what was it, the Grim Reaper like
figure figuring out tear, which is good because some teams
are going to see a certain schedule and they're going
to start to go off really and I'm really looking
forward to that with Florida. Funny enough, though, Ottawa back
to back games, say good shot comes back, they lose,
they're captain's back and they lose two straight games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know Andrew, uh it, but it'll take a while.
Like they're playing great obviously without them, but you need
the guy in the lineup. It's it's it's similar to
the Toronto may beliefs with you know, Austin Matthews. They
actually have a winning record. I believe they have a
winning record when he's out of the lineup. So you know,
with that said, you don't get rid of a guy
just because you have a winning lineup, winning winning record
with him out of the lineup, but you want him
back in there. Ottawa will be uh fine. They had
a good run of games. I still think that that
team is is good enough. When we talk about like,
you know, the the sort of the grim Reaper thing
in scheduling, it's, you know a lot of everything that
I've been doing this year is like the eye test,
and the eye test has to you have to watch
the games. Sometimes you'll look at a final score and think, wow,
this team just actually played phenomenal, when when reality they
really didn't. In case in point of like, you know,
we're not discussing that game today, but you know, for
you guys in the chat right now that are watching,
first of all, hit that like button. But when you
look at teams, when I look at teams, Andrew, that
I possibly want to bet on moving forward, probably over
the next two let me see, let me have a
look at it here the next two weeks until December
the fifteenth, the Saint Louis Blues are probably a very
good bet on a team. They seem to be playing
better defensively, their goalies Hoffer and and Beney Tinder are
starting to play a little bit better. But here's their schedule.
They have the Ducks Ducks tonight, then they have the Bruins,
Ottawa Senators, Montreal Canadians, the Boston Bruins again, Nowsville Chicago,
and then Nashville again. Nashville is kind of a bit
of a hot mess. Despite getting a couple of wins,
that's a pretty good schedule. You're avoiding a lot of
the top teams. Andrew in that one and I would
venture to guess that they're gonna win a lot more
of those games than lose.
Speaker 2: SOK with that? With that, KRM, how many will you play? Like?
Is it one of those things like I've always been
bad at this.
Speaker 1: If I want to bet honor against the team, I
don't stay on them enough. Like are you the kind
of person that willet your clients can see you better
team four times?
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing is you have to look at it.
So they play tonight, then they have two days off
before they play in Boston UH. And then from Boston UH,
two nights later they are they are in Ottawa and
obviously the travel from Boston to Ottawa is very minimal.
It's like an hour, so you never worry about travel
there because a lot of it has to do travel schedule.
Then they run a back to back in Montreal. Ottowa
to Montreal is again Andrew, you know, it's less than
an hour. A couple of nights later there they're back
home in in Saint Louis and they play the Bruins UH,
and then they're Nashville and Chicago and those those two
games will be back to backs. So sometimes you'll look
at like the sort of the three games in four nights,
and it's going to apply to them a couple of times.
You know, they play the sixth to seventh and the ninth,
So the game against Boston in Saint Louis will be
the second of a back, or it will be the
third and four nights. If they were to lose to
the Bruins in that first game, I'd definitely be on
Saint Louis in that other game. And then the game
on the twelfth against Chicago it's a similar thing. It'll
be their third and four nights, but they'll be playing
at home, so you kind of have to look at
that in the back to backs. But the fact that,
and the important fact is that if both goalies are
playing well Hoffer and Bennington, then you're not so worried
about the back to backs and getting a goalie in
your second game. Because we're seeing a lot of teams
with goaltending issues right now, obviously the Winnipeg Jets being
one of them with Hellaback out and it's Millick and
Eric Comery the two goalies going right now for them.
But if both goalies are going well for Saint Louis
and that defense is starting to play extremely well. Definitely
their home games, Andrew, I want to be on them
in their home games because you know, it's it's last season.
But they finished, you know, eighteen games unbeaten at home.
That is very tough to do. A rough start to
this season, but they seem to have turned it around,
and I want to be on the start of a
home winning streak as opposed to jumping on a little
too late.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is that I get a little
bit nervous, Karen, when I see a streak that I've
missed out on, and I feel like that with the
Vancouver Overs, I will always go back to the Boston
Bruins when they broke the century mark, when they broke
the record for wins, Like I can't even tell you
how few times I took them.
Speaker 2: I can't even tell you. It makes me ashamed because.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you see a trend and you're a little bit
too late, and like it's when Chris Otto, Chris Otto
starts tweeting about this team has gone under one and
a half first period ten straight times, and I'm like, well,
do I join now or did I miss the boat?
Am I too late for it? So it's like Hey,
can you can you tell me the trend? Three games?
Three games in four games? In not telling me the
trend you know after like the first ten times that
it hits, so that stuff. All right, Yeah, Pittsburgh and
Philadelphia here, Carl, we got to keep it going here,
can we get the most in the game of the
day already? Wreck says, all right, Well, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
Are you shocked with what Philadelphia has done this year?
How do you feel about Philadelphia as a whole? And
obviously we've seen the regression bug a little bit kick
in for this Pittsburgh team. But what are your thoughts
on this matchup? Do you think Pittsburgh's live or do
you think Philadelphia is kind of rightfully so in this position?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I have been fading Pittsburgh the last
little while and it's kind of it's kind of sitting
in there. Listen, Sydney Crosby is the guy is such
a Canadian icon, Andrew playing extremely well. You love to
see that guy, especially, you know with the Olympics coming
up in February. I think of next year, you want
to see that guy playing extremely well. You know, if
they move him and it's only going to be because
they've had discussions with him prior to the trade deadline
of whether he wants to be a rental player for
a playoff team. We'll see if that comes to fruition.
But this is one because you started off talking about trends.
This is one where I think you throw every single
trend out the window when you're talking about the Pittsburgh
Penguins and the Philadelphia Flyers. Uh, these teams, it's kind
of like Toronto Montreal. It's a similar rivalry. These teams
hate each other. The fan bases are not fans of
each other, and I think you just you just toss
it out, you know. They they just want to beat
up on each other each and every time you're talking
about Philadelphia. Philadelphia is playing Rick Talckett style hockey right now.
This is what he did with the Vancouver Canucks. You know,
it takes a little while to get going. It's similar
to Sullivan in in New York with the Rangers, but
they're playing his type of playing. You look at their
games the last eight games, they're what six six into
their last last ten games. You know, they went into
New Jersey they beat the Devils a shorthanded Devil's team.
You know, they go into New York and they beat
the Islanders, they beat the Florida Panthers. It's a team
and it's winning games now. A lot of people will say,
and I know Pres is a proponent of this one
where he talks about when a team comes off a
road winning streak and they extremely fair, they did well,
he wants to play against him in their first game
at home. I'm not of that mindset in this one.
I just think that that Philly's just playing better hockey
right now. The price isn't high enough on Pittsburgh for
me to want to take the dog in this game.
They were embarrassed on home ice by the Toronto White
Beliefs seven to three. I can't remember the last time
the Leafs even scored seven goals in a game, and
then prior to that, they had beaten the Buffalo Sabers
and Columbus in ot But it's a team that's lost
six of the last ten games. So these teams seem
to be the trajectory of these two teams. Andrews seems
to be going in different directions right now, and I
want Philly in this one.
Speaker 1: Oh karm After the weekend you had. I really don't
want to be against you. Multiple times, I really don't
want to be against you. And the funny thing is
we got Rex in here says, ain't no regression tonight,
boys take the Flyers at home. Bladar won't let in
more than two goals tonight. Comment here from twelve Coalzy
says the home team has won each of the last
six games between the Penguins and the Flyers. Artis she
loves did not look good in that game on the weekend.
I think you were the one that said this. I've
heard this from multiple people. Karm she loves is the
definition of a box of chocolates. Goaltender like he is
either an unbelievable lights out guy or he gives up
four goals in the first like thirty minutes of the game.
He is one or the other. Now, Tristan Jari this
year is seven and two, two point seven to four
goals against. He's been like he's been their steady guy. However,
they've been kind of a lot more and I don't
want to say fifth fifty, but they've been sharing the load.
Like I remember when I was younger, Karmen and you
can speak to this when you were my age, because
it was even more the fact that it used to
be like an eighty twenty split for these goalies, like
the backups just played the back to backs and they
just played the And now you look at some of
the goalies around the league, they're just playing like different games.
They're oh, yeah, we're gonna put him in for this one,
We're gonna put him in for this one. It used
to be the backup would just play, you know, the
absolute must play scenarios, like the starter is so fatigue,
you have to play the backup. But they've been spreading
it around a little bit more so. Moral of the
story for me, I trust Tristan Jari. Looking at my
advanced metrics here, I've got Philadelphia as the ninth worst
expected goals against five on five last ten games. That
comment about Vladar, I'm hoping that Vladar is heavily relied
upon tonight. And you can't heavily rely upon your goaltender
every single game. And you know, maybe I have a
habit of betting against teams that are playing well too
much here, Karen, But when I look at this team,
they got shut out against the Lightning and since then
they beat the Panthers, beat the Islanders, beat the Devils.
They beat the Devils twice. Now in the last couple
of weeks they beat them. This is a team I
think that's gonna get a little bit of a wake
up call. We got a very hungry team, I think
against the team that might be a little bit satisfied,
fat and sassy, as Marco would say.
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good game regardless, and
we'll see if I end up on some This could
be a good player prop game to get into. Maybe
I don't have any of them in my same game parlay,
but I do think it could be a good player
prop one to mention, so.
Speaker 2: Rivalry game as well. Good rivalry game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like money line wise, there are number six in
the NHL overall and profitability, the the Philadelphia Flyers that
is Colorado obviously first, and I'm Suck in Boston third,
New Jersey fourth, and the Shark's fifth. So we see
sort of a split there of between East and West
sharing the top six spots or splitting the top six spots.
As far as probabily, they're a very good team at home,
and they were very early on. If you remember early
on in the season, it was Philly winning at home
and Trevor Zegras getting a point. He had a point
in his first I think seven or eight games on
home ice. It was unbelievable. I'm not sure what that
sits at right now, but maybe I'll toss in a
Trevor Zegres point for tonight into a same game. Partly
they take Philadelphia with Trevor Zegress over one point and
get it down to like even money.
Speaker 2: He's fitting in pretty well, there, isn't he? He looks
pretty good.
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like the Grinch on December first,
but karm I gotta say I am not a fan
of those those shootout attempts, the getting because netsov Esque
shootout attempts where you come in at zero point one
miles per hour. Trevor Zegress has currently like the best
percentage ever out of anybody in the NHL ever in
the shootout. But can you tell me that it's a
realistic thing in hockey. You would ever see somebody on
a breakaway and they just kind of skate in slow
as they possibly can. They go right in front of
the goalie and they put the puck back and forth
like Patrick Kane because nets off. Those guys used to
do it. That's not hockey. To me, that's not what
the game is about. Like, I know it's a shootout
and you can do that, but to me, it's just
not hockey. I'm not a fan of what Trevor Zegress
does in the shootouts. When are you gonna ever be
on a breakaway in the NHL and you slow down
like that?
Speaker 3: It's not hoty, No, no, it's not. There's a comment
there that Zegres is uh eleven to thirteen on home
ice in getting a point. I wouldn't call Zegres overrated.
I think he was very cocky uh in Anaheim, and
I think that attitude didn't bear well. It was definitely
wasn't gonna be it was good. It wasn't gonna go
over well with Joel Joel Quinville on that team. I'm
not saying he's an iron fist guy, but he just
wants his teams to compete and uh and keep the
you know, sort of that fancy stuff or whatever. We
all love to see the Michigan goals from behind the
net but when they don't go in, you sort of
think it's fancy or what have you. Andrew, it's it's
uh no, he's not. Zecres definitely isn't overrated. He's going
to be a good player. He just needs to play
his game and he's done it in Philly thus far,
you know, as far as and you look at these
two teams and we're gonna get to that final one
which is like the monster game of the night utah
and uh and and I'll say, but who are the
teams do you think like the you know, this Pittsburgh
Penguins team when we when I talk about regression for
this team, they were they were picked preseason to finish
in one of the top or sorry, bottom three spots
in the league, and they got off to a great start.
At some point, it's kind of like the maybe there
is the right term regression to the mean they're they're
going to go back to playing what people are were
expecting of them. The sid get moved, Does Malcolm get moved?
Speaker 2: Because I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I think because of them starting out so good,
like nobody's even in a rush to to sell off.
But like you said, like they're starting to regress and
kind of starting to pull back.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Elliott Friedman and a couple other experts have come on
and and and their podcast and said, Hey, we spec
to see trades earlier this year because of the condensed schedule,
because of the Olympic break. Apparently there might be some
trades going on in December or even January. But I'm
gonna die on the hill that as long as that
team remains competitive, Crosby will play for them. Like you know,
I'm the biggest fan of Crosby. Look at what he's
doing right now. It's he's on pace for fifty goals. Like,
he's on pace for fifty goals right now. Every other
team in the league would love to have him. But
I don't know, Malcolm Latang, these guys, are they gonna
leave Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: It's nuts because right now it's a it's a seller's market,
but they're asking for too much. Guys. I saw one
with with Nashville and because they're gonna be a seller,
Ryan O'Reilly, Yes, they wanted they want a first round
draft pick and a prospect. Who is giving up a
first round draft pick and a prospect for Ryan O'Reilly? No,
disrespect to Ryan O'Reilly, but he is not worth a
first round draft pick, and he manager makes that deal.
If you imagine that makes that deal, you need like
that that Will Smith thing where they throw the guy
Jazz out of the house on fresh prince of bel air.
That's what a guy has to happen to the GM
if he makes that thing. But we're gonna move on
to the next game. But one quick thing that I
was getting to and then I completely completely slipped this
old man's mind is when we talk about penalty shots
and guys coming in at the slow pace. I remember
once just joking around, there was a bunch of leafs,
like an alumni thing, and ty Domie was there, and
I said to Tiger, you know what'd be great is
if you get a penalty shot next and this he
was still playing the time. If you had a penalty shot,
dump it into the corner and chase it right. So,
because ty Domie was always known as the guy who
dumped and chased it, he threw it into the corner
and then and he dared the defenseman to go in
there first before he made him part of the advertising
on the boards. So with that said, Andrew let's get
to Utah and San Jose. Utah, I'm shocked on this
price one sixty eight mice won sixty eight Santose plus
one thirty seven total six yer at six. Where are
you going with this one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Karen, this Utah team and we keep I feel
like we keep talking about regression today and maybe you
know the fact that it might be hitting some teams. Well,
I think Utah has dealt with that for a little
while now. They started off so red hot. They went
on the road for a road trip, and they cooled
off on that road trip, and ever since that road trip,
they haven't looked like the same hockey team. You know,
looking at this price here, with Utah being minus one fifty,
it got bought up to minus one sixty five one
seventy at some shops. Now you've got San Jose. They're
off their game against Vegas. I gotta give San Jose
credit because they went down early against Vegas. I thought
it might be an absolute ass kicking, and then they battled.
They battled hard all the way until the end, losing
that one in a tight one against the Golden Knights.
The offensive ability is there for this team. But when
I look at money puck and which is what I
love doing, especially the last ten games.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite thing to do.
Speaker 1: I don't look at full season for stats, look at
the last ten games. And when I look at expected
goals against, you've got San Jose coming in at number six.
They're just giving up so many opportunities. And when you
look at the Mammoth they've actually been pretty good. You know,
they are a top six team right now, and expected
goals against you've got San Jose just giving up way,
way too many chances. So it's been a while on
this show, we've been on thirty five minutes and fifty
five seconds. I have not given out a team total
over yet, carm this will be a team total over that.
I like the money's coming overnight. Utah is starting to
look a little bit better offensively. San Jose has been
playing some tougher opponents lately and they are giving up
a ton of chances and even looking at some of
the goalie numbers here overall, like some goalies that have
had to keep their teams in games, whether it's been
a scar off or whether it's been a backup, whoever
it's been, in that I just feel like San Jose
has been relying a little bit too much on goaltending.
I have a feeling that a Scarovs say percentage is
going to have to it's going to end up starting
with an eight when January gets here. That's how much
I think they're relying on their goaltending. So I'll go
over three and a half for them for Utah.
Speaker 2: Okay, don't tell me, Carl, No tell me.
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that, but it's a it's a confusing
line for me in this one. And someone asked if
Cool he's back. I don't think he is.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: When I was looking at some of the overnight stuff,
it was showing that he wasn't gonna play, But that
changes obviously on game day, so we'll see with the
morning skates and stuff. The line make it make sense
to me because I don't see it. I get it
San Jose will eventually so show some regression. And maybe
they're not the they're not the greatest road team, but
they're not on the road here. They're at home. Their
last ten games on home ice, they are eight one
and one, and the games they lost were you know,
three two shootout loss or three two o t loss.
To Detroit and three two lost to Ottawa. But they
have claimed some some decent scalps along the way. Uh.
They beat the Devils, they beat Colorado, they beat Winnipeg,
they beat Florida. They've beaten this Utah team three to
two already. That was back on November the eighteenth in
ot they beat the LA Kings eight two and eight,
one and one on home hester or last ten and
they're plus one thirty seven. Maybe I am missing something
in this game as far as like injuries and what
have you go. But when I look at sort of
the injury list of this one, I don't see any
names that on the list. You know, Skinner was already there.
We know obviously, Price or whatever. It's it's more of
a eating up a contract thing Courture and Elis. But
and I'm seeing Cooley where it's showing well, not play tonight,
but that could change as well too. I don't see, Andrew,
how Utah should be one sixty eight in this game
minus one sixty eight, and I'm seeing some one seventies
and stuff. Circa has one of the lower prices at
one fifty nine. Make it makes sense to me, any buddy,
Make it makes sense, not the final score, but why
the line is where it is right now?
Speaker 2: Krm.
Speaker 1: You know what happens whenever you say that though, whenever
a line doesn't make much sense to you, you know
you got to take the side it doesn't make much
sense on there's a reason why this team is what
it is, I think in this particular situation looking at
the man. And one thing to consider as well is
the off of shutout theory. You know, I love that
theory that's in play in this one. Here, this is
a team that has not looked good lately and they're
coming off a one nothing shutout loss against the Saint
Louis Blues. I mean, you get a chance, coming off
a shutout game to play against the San Jose Sharks, who,
over the last few years, few weeks, few months have
been one of the worst defensive teams in hockey. The
motivational edge might be there. How about this, Karma, I'm
curious what you think about at this And this might
sound kind of square to say this, but it is
what it is here with hockey on teams like San Jose,
the var the var on teams teams like San Jose,
teams like Chicago should we just be looking at player
props for the top dogs because look at how good
Badard has been this season. Look at how good Celebrini
has been this season. If you told me at the
start of the year, CELEBRAINI is going to the Olympics,
I wouldn't believe you. If you told me, you know
that he was a one hundred percent lock to go
in the Olympics, I would have said, you're crazy. He
is one hundred percent going to Italy, you know. And
and Badard I would probably say at this point, I
don't know what your percentage is. I would say Badard
is eighty percent, maybe seventy five, maybe seventy, but he
is so good. So would you say that, if you
anyone that likes San Jose, you just take props on
the top players because those are the guys that are
going to get.
Speaker 2: You the win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you very well could, because you know that these
guys andrew that are playing extremely well right now, who
want a shot at making it onto, whether it's Team
Canada or a Team USA, that they are going to
play their eyeballs out each and every night trying to
help their team win, but also impress the coaching stabs
and the team selection committee for each for each nation,
right they want to play Celebraty wants to be in
in Italy. Andrew, I want to go to Italy for
the for this, for this hockey, this Olympic Ones. I
have two people I need to convince. I need to
convince my wife and I need to be convince the
people at AMEX to give me more space on my
card in order to pay for the trip to go
to Italy to watch the Olympics. But no, I get it.
Maybe tonight is a good player. Prop One. You have
a Utah team coming in who are favored, struggling on
the road and three straight losses overall, which isn't something
that you have to really worry about, but as long
as it doesn't continue to to go south. It's just
that when a team is playing well at home, we
talk about the economy of home and away splits and
what have you, is that you just want to be
on a team that is running good in a certain spot.
You know what I mean. It's you talk about like
in different sports. The you know, the Buffalo Bills pretty
much unbeatable on their home field, but when they hit
the road. The last three years they're basically a five
hundred team. There's something like twelve and twelve or thirteen
and thirteen, although they did get the win in Pittsburgh yesterday.
Bill's Mafia. Let's go one time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But with that said, I don't know. I don't want
to lay. It's either for me it's Santos or pass.
And as Gus mentioned in the live chat, when you
look at the spread, you know what I mean. And you
can look at some stuff I always tell you guys,
A good site to check out is ev Analytics, just
to look at some streaks and trends and what have you.
You can set up home, you can set up away.
You can see first period, second period money lines, totals,
full game total spreads and money line and it is
a good tool. But you also have to keep in
thought sort of sometimes the extenuating circumstances of not wanting
to take a play even if the numbers justify it.
And I'll talk to that in a second, Andrew, But
the last ten at home against on the puck line
because they were dogs in uh well, there were dogs
in many of those games they played, going eight one
and one, but definitely dogs against Ottawa and a slight
dog against the Detroit Red Wings, so we'll see how
that goes.
Speaker 1: Carm we got to wrap the show up because we're
gonna jump into wager Talk today.
Speaker 3: This is this year.
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Speaker 2: Over to you.
Speaker 1: Karen for anything you want to mention, plus the POD,
I do understand the the pod is still alive, and
then wrap the show up for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll talk about the POD first. So when
I talked about the EV analytics, and I'll make this
extremely quickly, extremely quick, so you guys can get over
and watch Wajer talk today. I talked about sometimes you
have to take certain things into account the Winnipeg Jets,
you know, like with first period plays and with totals,
with good goaltending, it taking overs with them sometimes isn't
the best thing to do, even though it has been
this year. But obviously goaltending issue there. With Hellabuck injured,
it looks like it's Milliking goal tonight, and it looks
like it could be called Colton Ellis for the Buffalo Savers.
The POD play is going to be the over in
the first period of that game over one and a
half minus one thirty. The Jets need to score goals
to support their goalies until they can get Hellibuck back
in back in goal and look for some early goals
in this one on a Monday, over one and a half,
I want to watch twenty minutes of this game and
then be done with it so I can watch the
NFL game. We're at fifty four forty five. This is
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