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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media. Man. I love doing this show. Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jenny Mack with your daily comedy News. Our leadof

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<v Speaker 1>story today involves a fight, and I enjoy a good fight.

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<v Speaker 1>This from pract dot com. Apparently a former Saturday Night

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<v Speaker 1>Live intern caught Michael Chay's attension. The former intern posted

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<v Speaker 1>an Instagram reel exposing the shows behind the scenes culture

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<v Speaker 1>of manipulation. Now, I just want to point out I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to beat up on this person, who I

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<v Speaker 1>think is younger than I am. But the person does

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<v Speaker 1>share a surname with me. So if you look up

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<v Speaker 1>the story and yourself, I do not know this person.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not related to this person. I have never

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<v Speaker 1>met a person who does share a surname with me

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<v Speaker 1>who has this particular first name. So I have no

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<v Speaker 1>association with this person. But I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>their name because I just want to do the story

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<v Speaker 1>and not like really beat up on this person, who

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree with a lot of the opinions here. As

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<v Speaker 1>you're about to hear, the former Saturday Night Live intern

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<v Speaker 1>spilled the tea, repeating damning accusations against the show that

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<v Speaker 1>made by plenty of others. Okay, well, wonder what happens?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the tea? She says, Hey, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>know why SNL has so much turnover? She blames Lorne Michaels.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, the showrunner of Saturday Night Live is responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for cast turnovers. Holy cow wow, she says. Loren Michaels

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<v Speaker 1>loves power, and he loves creating emotional crises. Sees in

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of people who are younger than him. Lauren's eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's younger than him. The former intern says, Ooh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>creepy when you think about it. She says that it's

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<v Speaker 1>nuts that accomplished comedian should sit on the floor of

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<v Speaker 1>Lorne Michael's office to pitch ideas, with Lorne deciding which

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<v Speaker 1>sketches make the cut. Really, what's crazy about that? Have

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<v Speaker 1>you never worked in a bullpen? I've worked at radio stations.

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<v Speaker 1>I ran a comedy radio station. We had a bullpen.

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<v Speaker 1>We called it the bullpen. You go in, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a cherry, you grab one. Maybe you'll lean up against

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<v Speaker 1>a desk, Maybe you sit on a floor. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>you do. You weren't Saturday Night Live? What did you

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<v Speaker 1>want him to have? How are we supposed to pitch sketches.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we stand? Should we bring folding chairs with us? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the proper method to pitch sketches? To the

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<v Speaker 1>showrunner of the show, this is crazy cracked, quotes the

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<v Speaker 1>former in turn and saying, guess what he built the

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<v Speaker 1>process in the seventies. It's an insane workflow that requires

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<v Speaker 1>lots of caffeine at least to survive. Your mind and

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<v Speaker 1>your body are going to break down. People go off

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<v Speaker 1>on the deep end of the place all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't sleep for literally years of your life, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a torture tactic. Now, now that's not true. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a medical expert, but I'm pretty sure I'm confident here.

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<v Speaker 1>If you did not sleep for literally years, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>right now you said, Johnny Mackham, calling your bluff, it's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. I'm not going to sleep for years

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<v Speaker 1>as plural, so we'll make that too. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep until November of twenty twenty seven. I would say, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to die. Please don't do that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want you to die. Appreciate listening to the podcast. Please

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<v Speaker 1>at some point in the next two years, literally sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>The former intern says, you can't have sustainable friendships outside

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<v Speaker 1>of that place for years at a time, for the

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<v Speaker 1>duration of your time there. It's kind of like a cult. Crack, says.

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<v Speaker 1>The former intern says she has a degree in comedy

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<v Speaker 1>from NYU's Film School. The intern claims SNL asked her

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<v Speaker 1>to interview after her senior year, but she turned them

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<v Speaker 1>down and said you would know my name by now.

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<v Speaker 1>Cracked editorializes note to former intern, nobody knows the name

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<v Speaker 1>of SNL's writers. All this was noticed by Michael Chay,

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<v Speaker 1>who jumped in on the comments. Michael Ja posted you

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<v Speaker 1>learned all that getting coffee? Oh. The intern responded, it's

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<v Speaker 1>incredible what people reveal in front of you when they

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<v Speaker 1>treat you like you're invisible. Chase shot back, doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>bitter at all. The intern, rather than folding, goes back

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<v Speaker 1>in and says, I'm genuinely not. Chay responded yep, yep, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently they kept going back and forth. Fans on

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<v Speaker 1>Reddit believed that Michael Jay was truly one user. He's

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<v Speaker 1>doing it for fun. His entire Instagram persona is being

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<v Speaker 1>an edge lord. Another editor said, honestly, you learned all

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<v Speaker 1>that by getting coffee is such a great line that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see how Jay could resist. Speaking of Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Live, Eddie Murphy, he's been in the press lately.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the documentary in it? Eddie Murphy explained

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<v Speaker 1>it was Lorne Michael's idea to ask Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tracy Morgan to join in Eddie Murphy's monologue. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>this Lauren Michael's person just sounds horrible. Chris Rock said

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<v Speaker 1>the Eddie Murphy return episode went so well that he

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<v Speaker 1>told Lauren Michaels it was one of the greatest SNLS ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I walked over to Lauren Michaels when it was

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<v Speaker 1>over and I said, you should quit right now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not getting any better than this. I think Chris Rock

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<v Speaker 1>has been right. Has there been a better episode since

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<v Speaker 1>that episode? Now? There's been some good ones. Firstly, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the time to get out was SNL fifty and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty years old. I think everybody would have been like,

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<v Speaker 1>good job. Josh Johnson tells Billboard Every Tuesday I post

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<v Speaker 1>a new set. Sometimes it's extremely topical or political, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's more cultural pop. I really love doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>We premiere live every Tuesday at nine pm and hop

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<v Speaker 1>in the chat, meet other people and have good conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with everybody. Then the sets are available for free and

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube for the rest of time. Billboard was curious, you've

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<v Speaker 1>been to a writer since twenty seventeen. At what point

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<v Speaker 1>did you think I want to be on camera? Josh said,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't something I was gunning for years and years.

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<v Speaker 1>It started to set in as I got more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with the show. I was having great time writing for

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<v Speaker 1>everyone on the show that's been years past, and I felt,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, this could be a cool move and I

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<v Speaker 1>could write material for myself when I'm hosting. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're performing a public service? Josh said, I

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<v Speaker 1>can only speak for myself. I very much appreciate that

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<v Speaker 1>people love and enjoy what I do, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>the people doing public service are doing real public service.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to conflate making TV with making change.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, it's a comedy show.

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<v Speaker 1>There are plenty of people out there doing their best

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<v Speaker 1>to change things, whether it's in their local community, their state,

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<v Speaker 1>their world. The best I could do is raise awareness

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<v Speaker 1>of who they are and what they're doing. The Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal asked Louis ck, Hey, Louis c K, when

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<v Speaker 1>you got in trouble, some people wrote you off for good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly how the guy at the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 1>phrased it when they talked to c K, exactly in

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<v Speaker 1>the tone I just did it. That was a perfect impression.

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<v Speaker 1>You should have been in the room for the fans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's stuck around 's Some were disappointed that you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>dig deeper into the roots of your behavior. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>consider doing a special devoted to that, Louis c K.

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<v Speaker 1>Louis said, well, that's suches on some really tender stuff

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<v Speaker 1>for me, and it's hard to talk about. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the fundamental aspects of an experience like that is that

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<v Speaker 1>your life departs other people's ability to understand it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a gap there, a gap of how much people can

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<v Speaker 1>understand what I'm going through. There's some things that people

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<v Speaker 1>will probably wish I wouldn't have done or said, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I just wasn't good enough, maybe I just wasn't strong enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they want to hear more about it, but not

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<v Speaker 1>everybody does. Also, maybe it's none of your effing business

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<v Speaker 1>why I can't. These are the things that go through

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<v Speaker 1>your head. I don't want to displease anybody. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to know that there's people who feel disappointed, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know the feeling's mutual. I could see the strain in

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<v Speaker 1>someone's face who wishes for more, and I can understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only so much I can do about it and

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<v Speaker 1>take good care of myself and my family and people

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<v Speaker 1>who love me. By the way, for a special I

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<v Speaker 1>did coming back, had a huge joke about it. C

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<v Speaker 1>K said, I'm not like a guy who breaks down

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<v Speaker 1>on stage. I got to do my job up there.

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<v Speaker 1>When I return to work, it was like, how many

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<v Speaker 1>people are willing to just watch me a crap ton?

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<v Speaker 1>That's more important to me. There may be a day

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<v Speaker 1>when I talk about things more. I did an interview

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<v Speaker 1>with THEO and said a lot more than I expected to,

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<v Speaker 1>and it felt really good. I listened to that episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually didn't make it to the end. I just

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<v Speaker 1>the part of the street they were hanging out on.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't want to hang out on. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad they enjoyed it. SEEK said, but I don't read

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<v Speaker 1>what people say anymore. I don't read the internet. My

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<v Speaker 1>phone is extremely restricted. I threw the keys Away out

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<v Speaker 1>today on the eight hundred Pound Gorilla YouTube channel. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the eight hundred Pound Gorilla YouTube channel. Premiere of

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Wolfe's Four Stories. Kathy Griffin was on The Good

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<v Speaker 1>Guys podcast and said she had her third facelift. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's really easy to just be like, oh yeah, Kathy

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<v Speaker 1>had her third face lift. Let's just step the break

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. Kathy Griffin had a third facelift. So

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<v Speaker 1>she had a facelift, then had another face lift, and

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<v Speaker 1>then had another facelift. Kathy Griffin told the hosts, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>no beauty, but he did a good job. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to Chris Jenner's Last Guy, but it was not cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>They asked her how much facelift number three was. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to guess? I'll give you second here, you

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<v Speaker 1>guess how much was facelift number three. Facelift number three

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<v Speaker 1>was two hundred and eighteen thousand dollars. Kathy Griffin described

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<v Speaker 1>getting stitches in my eyelids with a cat eye stitch

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<v Speaker 1>to lift the corners. She also had a stitch in

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<v Speaker 1>her chin. Kathy explained, I actually think when you're a

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<v Speaker 1>chick comedian, they just go for your looks. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably why Joe Nervis did so much, because she

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<v Speaker 1>was really pretty. I'm from a generation where agents thought

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<v Speaker 1>nothing back of the day of saying stuff like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they loved your audition, but they're going to go attractive sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>or with a nose job, you might have a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went and got a nose job. Hey, let

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<v Speaker 1>me in on this one. I've wanted to get to

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<v Speaker 1>this one. I've got a little room today. This from

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<v Speaker 1>AOL dot com Johnny Mack, did you prep the show

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety six? No, ap Pearly there's still AOL

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. And this came up in the course of

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<v Speaker 1>my travels. Fifteen comedians everyone had a crush on in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties to two thousands. Okay, let's count that out.

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<v Speaker 1>The sixties, the seventies, the eighties, the nineties, and the zeros,

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<v Speaker 1>so fifty years of comedians. And these are the fifteen comedians.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember I said the word comedians. Here the fifteen comedians

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<v Speaker 1>everyone had a crush on in the nineteen sixties to

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousands. Ready, here we go. Here's what AOL

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<v Speaker 1>but they did have a Number one here, Robin Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a boy when Mork and Mindy came out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember people having a crush on Robin Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, he's not the worst looking person I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen, so okay, fine. Number two Lucille Ball. Now

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<v Speaker 1>this is the sixties to the two thousands. Did people

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<v Speaker 1>have a crush on Lucy especially like in the eighties

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<v Speaker 1>old Lucy with the cigarette voice. Now the very young

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<v Speaker 1>Lucille Ball. Nice looking lady, but I love Lucy's from

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties and the aol dot com article are the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen comedians. Everyone, not just some people. Everyone had a

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<v Speaker 1>crush on in nineteen sixties to the two thousands. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not slagging on Lucille Ball born in nineteen eleven, so

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty which is part of the aol dot

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<v Speaker 1>com article here, Lucy Ball was post I Love Lucy

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<v Speaker 1>and forty nine years old at a time when people

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<v Speaker 1>aged a little older than they do now. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want proof of that, watch the movie Diamonds Are Forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I say this quite seriously. If you gave me six months,

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<v Speaker 1>I would get myself in shape, get myself a suit,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would look as good as Sean Connery does

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<v Speaker 1>in Diamonds or Forever. Seawan does not look great in

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<v Speaker 1>that movie. He's only thirty nine years old, and at

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six, I can get myself in Diamonds for Forever Shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I get myself into Doctor Noe Sean Connery? Shape?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not. With Sean Connery the sexiest man alive in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties, he sure was. That's the thing that happened

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty nine, Sean Connery was fifty nine years old.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not talking about fifty nine year old Shan Connery.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about thirty nine year old Diamonds Forever Sean Connery.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch the film or just google it. He looks fifty

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<v Speaker 1>six years old anyway. Number two on the AOL list

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy ol Ball forty nine years old or perhaps older again,

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<v Speaker 1>nuts slagging on her, just saying this is a This

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<v Speaker 1>is a list, and we're not done with the list yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Continuing the fifteen comedians everyone had a crush on in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties to the two thousand, so for we

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<v Speaker 1>have Robin Williams and Lucille Ball, Eddie Murphy I was

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<v Speaker 1>around in the eighties. Eddie Murphy hilarious. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>people having a crush on Eddie Murphy, but again, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I just misremember. Number four Bill Murray. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>did have a crush on Bill Murray. So yeah, Tina Fay,

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<v Speaker 1>people did have crushes on Tina Fey, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's fair. Number six Steve Martin, I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Steve being like a really big comedy star

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<v Speaker 1>for a while there before he picked up the banjo

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<v Speaker 1>and became an actor. But again, I was young. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to argue with you. Number seven Jim Carrey. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I'm a straight dude, but I could see it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in a nice picture of young Jim Carrey. Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Number eight Goldie Hawn. Absolutely, who didn't love Goldie Hawn?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I think of her as a comedian,

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<v Speaker 1>comedic actress, Sure, fantastic. Who doesn't like Goldie Hawn? So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little out there to me. Chevy Chase, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, as Chevy Chase aged, he got a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a reputation, But I could see in the seventies

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<v Speaker 1>people being into Chevy Chase. I don't think that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Continuing the fifteen comedians everyone had a crush on in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties two to the two thousands. Number ten,

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<v Speaker 1>Carol Burnett, they say, a heartwarming icon whose kindness and

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<v Speaker 1>goofiness made everyone feel at home. She didn't just make

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<v Speaker 1>people laugh, she made them feel loved. Carol Burnett, number ten,

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<v Speaker 1>Number eleven on the fifteen comedians everyone had a crush

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<v Speaker 1>on John Candy. Sure, absolutely, who didn't have a crush

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<v Speaker 1>on John Candy? Number twelve, the great dramatic actor Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Sandler thirteen, Gilda Radner fourteen, Ellen DeGeneres. And we've gone

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<v Speaker 1>a long way for a joke here, but number fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Seinfeld. I don't remember anyone having a crush on

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Seinfeld, except maybe perhaps a seventeen year old girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's your comedy news for today by