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<v Speaker 1>Big Food and beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>With Cliff and Bubo. These guys are your favor It's

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<v Speaker 2>so like Shay subscribe and raid it five.

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<v Speaker 3>Start shot and me.

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<v Speaker 2>Rights on yesterday and listening, oh watching Lin always keep

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<v Speaker 2>it's watching.

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<v Speaker 1>And now your host's Cliff Berrickman and James Boobo.

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<v Speaker 2>Fay, Hey Bobs, how you doing man?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, just looking at the calendar, I realized it's

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four year anniversary in three days from my first

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<v Speaker 5>for sure, Bigfoot and counter out there in bald Hills.

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<v Speaker 2>Really twenty four years ago, in three days from now.

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<v Speaker 2>So wait, today's May eighteenth, So it's May twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>First, yep.

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<v Speaker 5>And then my big setting was like four or five

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<v Speaker 5>days after that, five days after that. I think you're

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<v Speaker 5>like something about a week away from my first official

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<v Speaker 5>sighting twenty fourth year anniversar. But it seems like just

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Yeah, I bet it does. I bet it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Time flies, especially as we get older. Huh.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was still recent when I when I met you,

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<v Speaker 5>it seemed like it had just happened, you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, just a couple of years ago, this

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<v Speaker 5>happened here, and then that's over twenty years now.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I remember when that happened. Actually I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if I I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>knew you yet, but I remember it's like, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way that somebody ran into a big foot while you

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<v Speaker 2>were in the car looking for one. It's because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Fredis was in the car, not that Rey far. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like there's no way. While on the radio, Oh come on,

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<v Speaker 2>and then go figure, I'd meet the people involved and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, yeah, they actually did. How crazy is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>That was one of the things when we saw it,

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<v Speaker 5>like we were so hesitant to call it in, was

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<v Speaker 5>that like, dude, we're on that sightings radio show with

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<v Speaker 5>Jeff France or Fredis was.

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<v Speaker 4>We were on the radio with him Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just like when I was calling in him,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, just so has it to say like

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<v Speaker 5>what we saw because it just sounded so nute, Like

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<v Speaker 5>what's the odds?

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<v Speaker 4>This just sounds so phony.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever get a copy of that radio show?

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<v Speaker 4>It was on the air. I don't know what happened

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<v Speaker 4>to it.

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<v Speaker 5>I used to have a copy somewhere on cassette tape.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a copy of it, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't and it was online and you couldn't get

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<v Speaker 5>it online anymore. I don't know what happened to I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's just gone as yet Jeff Frent's sightings it

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<v Speaker 5>would have been yeah, May twenty, two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope maybe some of our internet saluts can go

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<v Speaker 2>find that in gift Bobo. With that, that'd be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll see if I can find it. That'd be cool

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<v Speaker 4>to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be rad it'd be totally cool. Nice. Well, happy

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<v Speaker 2>anniversary in a couple of days. Thank you, You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for seeing the bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this the picture on a regular?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>This is regular? Is reagular? We have a guest waiting

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<v Speaker 2>in the wing. Should we go ahead and bring him in?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I can't wait to talk to him. I love

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<v Speaker 4>this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, now let's move on to our guest. This

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<v Speaker 2>guy's been big footing pretty much forever as far as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned. He's one of the main features in Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot area. Guy just tons and tons of experience, and

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<v Speaker 2>now he's putting on a conference which is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be at the end of this month. Actually at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the week, if I understand when this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be released, on May thirty thirty first, he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be hosting the Red River Gorge Bigfoot Festival.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's our guest, the levely and talented Charlie Raymond. Charlie,

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<v Speaker 2>how you doing. Man, it's great to have me back

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<v Speaker 2>on Bigfoot and beyond. Charlie, howdy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to be back. And yeah, Cliff, you should

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<v Speaker 3>know when when this festival festival occurs, because you are

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<v Speaker 3>one of our presenters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's one of the only reasons I even

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<v Speaker 2>know that it exists. And thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 2>inviting me out. I think this is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>Is this the first year of the event?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very first year the festival. The way it came about,

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<v Speaker 3>there's an old drive in there and I thought, man,

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't that be cool to watch the legend of Boggie Creek.

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<v Speaker 3>And then prior to that, prior to the showing, you

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<v Speaker 3>have a couple of bigfoot researchers come up, share some

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<v Speaker 3>evidence from Kentucky or where else and make it like

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<v Speaker 3>half a day event, you know, and then it just grew,

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<v Speaker 3>it grew into a full blown festival, and they asked me,

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<v Speaker 3>who do you want to speak, and of course Cliff

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<v Speaker 3>and Meldrum, those are the top two that I came

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<v Speaker 3>right to my head, and lucky, lucky enough, we got

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<v Speaker 2>You, the Jedi and his Paddawan. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>flattered that doctor Meldrum refers to me as his paddlewan.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, absolutely, how cool? So are you saying

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<v Speaker 2>that this is going to be in a drive in

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<v Speaker 2>theater like like like like the full drive in with

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<v Speaker 2>the speakers and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's it's so he moved it to the city

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<v Speaker 3>park because we needed needed more room. We loaded it

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<v Speaker 3>up full of kids, activities and arts and crafts and contests,

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds of vendors and food trucks and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a full blown festival. So we needed more room. So

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<v Speaker 3>we actually moved it to Stanton City Park.

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<v Speaker 2>Because stuff like this, especially down you know Kentucky and

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio and West virgin like that whole zone of the country,

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<v Speaker 2>these things spiral almost out of control, and how fast

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<v Speaker 2>they grow and how many people come to these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we on the event with little advertising. We just

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<v Speaker 3>made the Facebook event, twenty two thousand people are interested,

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<v Speaker 3>so it just kind of blew up and we got

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<v Speaker 3>lots of sponsors. We kept adding things hot air balloon rides.

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<v Speaker 3>We have search and rescue there. They're going to do

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<v Speaker 3>a presentation. We have a gentleman going to do survival training.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's going to be educational entertainment, you know. Of

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<v Speaker 3>course we got the Mountain Monsters, you know, to add

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of entertainment to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, a while Bill. You know, he's full of energy.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, hence the name, right, Oh, that's fantastic. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we'll circle back around to this towards the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the podcast interview here. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>know we've had you on the podcast before, but that

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<v Speaker 2>was years ago now, So like, what are some of

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<v Speaker 2>the highlights of the intervening years that you got to

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<v Speaker 2>do or got to experience or research or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like, what have you been up to since

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<v Speaker 2>we had you on the podcast last?

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<v Speaker 3>So witnesses, I'm getting tons of witnesses coming forward. And

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<v Speaker 3>the nice part is they're willing to go on video.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't take much. I don't know if they I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a good salesperson, or they trust me. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. They feel confident with me. And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>can I have video tape this? Oh? Sure? And I

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<v Speaker 3>put it on my YouTube channel and you get to

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<v Speaker 3>watch them tell their you know, encounter, which I love

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<v Speaker 3>because back in the day, you know, thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>when I when I started this, I would type everything

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<v Speaker 3>out and I was a I was a pecker, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>two fingers. I just peck, peck, peck, peck.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard anyone call you that.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a few people anyway. It just took forever,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you're reading it, it loses it. But when

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<v Speaker 3>you hear somebody like him on your podcast, or you

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<v Speaker 3>see somebody like on my YouTube video and they risk

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<v Speaker 3>a lot to go on video, you know, which blows

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<v Speaker 3>me away. Because I've gotten now law enforcement veterans on

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<v Speaker 3>my YouTube channel, and something real exciting here. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to jump into it real quick, because about three weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a sergeant come on from Fort Knox and

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<v Speaker 3>his name, let me see, his name was Corey Robert Robinson.

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<v Speaker 3>He was E five whatever that means, E five sergeant

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<v Speaker 3>Fort Knox in twenty ten. He let me videotape him

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<v Speaker 3>and they saw three bigfoot in a week on Fort Knox. Him,

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<v Speaker 3>his compadre and another sergeant on another occasion within a

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<v Speaker 3>week saw three bigfoots on Fort Knox. Amazing story. And

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<v Speaker 3>I even asked him afterwards, I said, are you leary

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<v Speaker 3>to go on video? He goes, no, Man, we all

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<v Speaker 3>saw it. We know we saw. I'm no longer you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the military, and I've told a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people and I don't care. And the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>he contacted me. I've got another story. It's a horrific

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<v Speaker 3>story and I'm gonna I'm not going to go into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've shared it many times. It's on my channel. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a deathbed confession of them killing four bigfoot on Fort Knox.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's terrible, uh, but very believable because his son,

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<v Speaker 3>that the sergeant, has now died. This is the one

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<v Speaker 3>who gave me the testimony of killing four of them

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<v Speaker 3>and the reason why he told me he had terminal cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>And he did tell me once he passes on, I

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<v Speaker 3>could release it. So that testimony is an audio testimony,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a phone conversation. It's on my YouTube channel. His

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<v Speaker 3>son contacted me and thanked me for sharing that. At first,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he's going to be angry. I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>who are you? I go oh, I'm his son. I

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<v Speaker 3>go oh, and he goes, no, I appreciate you sharing

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<v Speaker 3>his story because he told a few people before he passed,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was good to hear his voice again and

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<v Speaker 3>everything he said was true. So now this sergeant, another sergeant,

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<v Speaker 3>Corey Robinson, comes forward a couple of weeks ago or

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<v Speaker 3>a month ago, and he goes, the reason I contacted you,

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<v Speaker 3>I heard that testimony of the death, that confession on

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<v Speaker 3>Fort Knox and I'm killing four and I'm telling you this.

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<v Speaker 3>They are there. And the interesting thing about the story

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<v Speaker 3>was there is a part of Fort Knox, it's the

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<v Speaker 3>lower half of Fort Knox. And you know Fort Knox

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<v Speaker 3>does not have a wall around it. It backs up

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, neighborhoods and personal property, and the lower

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<v Speaker 3>half of that used to be a tank range. And you,

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<v Speaker 3>Cliff and Bubbo, you'd know the You know this guy,

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<v Speaker 3>he has a YouTube channel. I think he's a I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's in California at a bigfoot museum. He had

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<v Speaker 3>a big beard and a captain's hat. Do you know

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<v Speaker 3>who I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it Mike Rugg, like an older guy, Yeah, with.

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<v Speaker 3>A captain's hat on and a big gray beard. Yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And he had like with a bookstore or a museum.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Bigfoot Discovery Museum in Felton, California, right outside

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<v Speaker 2>of Santa Cruz.

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<v Speaker 3>So he has a video of him talking about Fort

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<v Speaker 3>Knox and other encounters on Fort Knox. And he talks

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<v Speaker 3>about the tank range where they're doing maneuvers at night

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<v Speaker 3>and they had to stop their maneuvers because this big

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<v Speaker 3>And he shares some other great stories. Well, since then,

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<v Speaker 3>just forced but heavily guarded. You cannot just walk on

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<v Speaker 3>put thousands of dollars into these fire towers to make

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<v Speaker 3>them surveillance towers to monitor, you know, the training sessions

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<v Speaker 3>in the woods. So thousands of dollars of equipment. Right

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<v Speaker 3>when they got there. There were ransacked, destroyed, nothing stolen.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, what blew him away is if you had

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<v Speaker 3>you know, meth heads or whatever sneaking on to Fort

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<v Speaker 3>Knox looking just you know, some you know, steal something

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<v Speaker 3>for some money. They didn't take one thing I think

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<v Speaker 2>Now what makes him think that, because who.

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<v Speaker 3>In the right mind would sneak on to Fort Knox

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<v Speaker 3>into that, I mean and not steal something. So and

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<v Speaker 3>it was right where the bigfoots were. So that week

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<v Speaker 3>they were there, they saw three bigfoot in that area.

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<v Speaker 3>So he alludes to he thinks maybe the bigfoots destroyed

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<v Speaker 3>this equipment. You know, don't know for sure, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, of course, but it's a reasonable, semi at

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<v Speaker 2>least a semi reasonable speculation. I think, Yeah, stay tuned

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<v Speaker 2>be right back after these messages. So three to six

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<v Speaker 2>So, Charlie, I've got a question for you, because all

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<v Speaker 2>in the news right now is this devastating tornado that

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<v Speaker 2>went through London and all that sort of thing in

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky killed a lot of people. Huge disaster, huge disaster,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course my wife's really interested in the storms.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a daily thing around here at the Barrackuin household.

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<v Speaker 2>Did that affect you in any way?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, no, a lot of our friends though, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of lives lost, and we got some

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<v Speaker 3>friends that are first responders. One of the not one

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<v Speaker 3>of our friends, but one of the first responders unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>died when he was respondings. It's devastating, And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought of something too about the storms. There's another

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<v Speaker 3>tornado that came through Kentucky near me here Babyville, which

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<v Speaker 3>is near the Red River Gorge. And the reason I

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<v Speaker 3>bring that other tornado came up, there were two bigfoot

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<v Speaker 3>sightings right after that tornado. One of them was it's

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<v Speaker 3>it was secondhand, so I didn't speak to the witness.

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<v Speaker 3>And basically what happened was the tornado hit Babyville and

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<v Speaker 3>this brother and sister were driving into town to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>view the devastation and the local town crazy. She was

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<v Speaker 3>in the road and she ran up to them and

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<v Speaker 3>she said, hey, you know, you have to go up

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<v Speaker 3>here to the railroad crossing. There's a guy who's severely injured.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you sit with him until ems can get here.

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<v Speaker 3>They said sure, and then she said, oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>I saw a family a bigfoot walk down off the

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<v Speaker 3>ridge and walk across this field, just out of the blue.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is like a horrific occasion where the storm

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<v Speaker 3>come through and people are dying and she happens to add, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, I saw I think it was four

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<v Speaker 3>or five bigfoot walk down off this ridge or walk

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<v Speaker 3>across this field over here. So they were kind of

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<v Speaker 3>shocked by that, like why would she even say that?

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't you know, why would you tell a lie?

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<v Speaker 3>And during an emergency like this. So anyway, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>secondhand story. But it made me think about that, and

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<v Speaker 3>I went to my records, and sure enough, I pulled

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<v Speaker 3>up a report right after that tornado hit near Babyville.

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<v Speaker 3>And this was an older lady, she was in her eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I was a school teacher, kids knew that

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<v Speaker 3>I did bigfoot research and their parents loved it because

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<v Speaker 3>the kids would read books and so forth. And one

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<v Speaker 3>mother came to my door one day and knocked on

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<v Speaker 3>my classroom door after school and said, hey, I hate

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you this, And I said, what am I

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<v Speaker 3>in trouble? Just no, my mother thinks she saw bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 3>I go, well, tell her to come see me. So

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<v Speaker 3>another day after school, there's another knock on my door

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<v Speaker 3>and a little old lady comes up and says, Hi,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so and So's mom. I saw the bigfoot. Oh great,

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<v Speaker 3>come on in so I shut my door. She sat

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<v Speaker 3>in one of the student's desks and she said, and

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<v Speaker 3>she was sweet. You know, she was like my late mother.

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<v Speaker 3>When they tell a story, they had to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>everything they did that day, you know, from what they

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<v Speaker 3>had for breakfast, if the dog went poop or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing related to the story. And she's she's telling me

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<v Speaker 3>everything she did that morning. And she said, well, I

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<v Speaker 3>right after The Prices Right was on and I turned

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<v Speaker 3>came on the news talking about Bigfoot, and he showed

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<v Speaker 3>how bigfoots walk, how they swing their arms, really dramatic,

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<v Speaker 3>and I about fell over. I actually sat down on

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<v Speaker 3>the couch and I go, oh my god, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I saw. So what happened was she was driving the

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<v Speaker 3>Mountain Parkway not too far from Babyville in the Red

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<v Speaker 3>River Gorge area. It was late in the day, around

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<v Speaker 3>five or six, and she said, I was talking out

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<v Speaker 3>loud to myself, I go, what's that man doing? Why

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<v Speaker 3>is he wearing all black? And where's where's his truck at?

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<v Speaker 3>Because literally, the woods would come up to the parkway

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<v Speaker 3>there was no guardrail, and then woods. Okay, she said,

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<v Speaker 3>where he came right out of the woods and stepped

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<v Speaker 3>over the guardrail, went across the parkway about oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>a quarter of half a mile or so in front

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<v Speaker 3>of her car, and she said, what's he doing out here?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like she thought it was a man dressed

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<v Speaker 3>in all black, and she didn't think anything of it

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<v Speaker 3>until she saw that researcher on the news demonstrate the

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<v Speaker 3>arm swing, and she said, that's what I saw. It

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<v Speaker 3>was swinging its arms, and then I realized I saw

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<v Speaker 3>a bigfoot. And in my notes in this report, it

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<v Speaker 3>was immediately after the tornado hit Babyville.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think that suggests about sasquatches and

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<v Speaker 2>any sort of relation to tornado? Do you think they

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<v Speaker 2>move around? Because you know, in the plains it's one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because tornadoes are no joke wherever they occur, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>but in Kentucky and places like that, where they're becoming

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<v Speaker 2>more and more common every year, it seems this is

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<v Speaker 2>a heavily forested mountain, pretty mountainous area. I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not talking like eight thousand foot peaks, but we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>solid mountains, deep ravines, the whole nine for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of miles. What do you think these things do

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with such tumultuous weather conditions?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, like a lot of animals can sense it,

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<v Speaker 3>right when a storm's coming or a tsunami or et cetera,

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<v Speaker 3>and the animals, I guess start to move and take

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<v Speaker 3>cover if you will, And maybe the bigfoots can sense

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<v Speaker 3>it as well, or even after the aftermath. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>their trees are fallen, and you know they're woken up

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<v Speaker 3>from their naps. You know, they got to move out

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<v Speaker 3>of there and everything's displaced. And today do you know it? Today?

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<v Speaker 3>The anniversary is today?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I do know it. Today is May eighteenth, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the day that Mount Saint Helen's blue in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty exactly. It's also it's also my parents' wedding anniversary.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it is, that's more important. Yeah, forty five years

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<v Speaker 3>ago Mount Saint Helens. And you guys know these stories

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<v Speaker 3>of these bigfoots that were supposedly burnt up or dead

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<v Speaker 3>or injured. And Tom Powell writes in his book The

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<v Speaker 3>Locals a case where a bigfoot had walked down and

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<v Speaker 3>ems and their EMS is like do we do we

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<v Speaker 3>and and then they of course loaded loaded the big

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<v Speaker 3>many reports of veterans who were there and supposedly saw

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<v Speaker 3>these bigfoot that were injured or dead. What do you

420
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<v Speaker 3>guys make of that?

421
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<v Speaker 5>People have dove in on that, and that's been shown

422
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<v Speaker 5>to not was I think it was Fred Bradshaw that

423
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<v Speaker 5>was the original trace back to and he said his

424
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<v Speaker 5>dad saw it and then like all the just I

425
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<v Speaker 5>think it was John Kirk maybe that did the real

426
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<v Speaker 5>dig deep on dig digging deep on it, and but yeah, they.

427
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<v Speaker 4>Were satisfied that that was totally made. Uh.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's there's two stories there.

429
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<v Speaker 1>There's the Battle Mountain Complex fire in Nevada where the

430
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<v Speaker 1>burnt Sasquatch supposedly interacted with emergency services in Tom's book.

431
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<v Speaker 1>But then the Mount Saint Helens eruption story was the

432
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<v Speaker 1>black helicopters carrying of things, you know, animals, bodies and

433
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<v Speaker 1>nets with big hairy arms and legs hanging out of

434
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<v Speaker 1>the nets. And that did come from Fred Bradshaw, who

435
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<v Speaker 1>claimed his dad told him that, and then ray Crow

436
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<v Speaker 1>published that as a quote unquote anonymous source in the

437
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<v Speaker 1>track record.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that the museum is only about an

439
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<v Speaker 2>hour hour and a half from Mount Saint Helens, probably

440
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<v Speaker 2>hour and a half from Ount Saint Helens, so and

441
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people drop by the museum on the

442
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<v Speaker 2>way to the mountain or on the way off the mountain,

443
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<v Speaker 2>and it's a wonderful place to go, great tourist location,

444
00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:32.319
<v Speaker 2>beautiful scenery, volcanic monuments, amazing ape canyons there, et cetera.

445
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<v Speaker 2>But I get asked that question a lot, and not

446
00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:39.880
<v Speaker 2>a month goes by. And I could be wrong, but

447
00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:41.960
<v Speaker 2>certainly even more frequently than that urn of summer, but

448
00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:44.680
<v Speaker 2>not a month goes by that I don't hear a

449
00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:50.720
<v Speaker 2>different version of that same genre of story. Sometimes it's

450
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<v Speaker 2>black helicopters carrying nets with arms and stuff hanging out,

451
00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:57.240
<v Speaker 2>as Matt mentioned. Other Times it's black SUVs driving up

452
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<v Speaker 2>and putting bodies in there. Sometimes it's people with the horses,

453
00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:04.440
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it's one hundred big foot, sometimes it's one.

454
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes stories it just goes on and on and on,

455
00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the variation on a theme is astounding, and therefore I

456
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<v Speaker 2>don't think there's anything to it. I just think it's

457
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<v Speaker 2>one of these myths that kind of took legs and

458
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:22.319
<v Speaker 2>is walking by, pedally around and refuses to die. That's

459
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:24.359
<v Speaker 2>just my take on it. I hope I'm wrong, but

460
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I am so.

461
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<v Speaker 5>On the Battle Mountain one, I know personally two of

462
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<v Speaker 5>the three chiefs that were on that fire. There was

463
00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:37.720
<v Speaker 5>bom Land and these guys were there. I've known them

464
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<v Speaker 5>for thirty five years, and they said they just laughed.

465
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<v Speaker 4>I said, yeah, I said there.

466
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<v Speaker 5>Was a like the bulldozer came up and ran over

467
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<v Speaker 5>the tracks are like they said, it's absolutely total be

468
00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:49.960
<v Speaker 5>there's nothing new to that story. And these guys would

469
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<v Speaker 5>were not like covering up. I mean, they would tell

470
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<v Speaker 5>me if there was something, there was something there.

471
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<v Speaker 3>I'd see. I confuse the two stories there being burnt up.

472
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<v Speaker 2>Well, there is so many of them, how can you

473
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.839
<v Speaker 2>keep them all straight? I mean, honestly, I sympathize with

474
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:03.400
<v Speaker 2>you on that one.

475
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.960
<v Speaker 3>But there's one I'm more familiar with because in Kentucky

476
00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:09.759
<v Speaker 3>and Tom writes about it as well. The same chapter

477
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:13.839
<v Speaker 3>Horse Cave, Kentucky, which is down there by Mammoth Cave,

478
00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 3>which there's been a lot of sightings. Someone hit one

479
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:22.559
<v Speaker 3>and of course EMS showed up and they ushered everybody away.

480
00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:25.920
<v Speaker 3>I guess one or two guys went around and we're

481
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<v Speaker 3>watching through the woods them bury this bigfoot, and Tom

482
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:32.799
<v Speaker 3>Paleill said, can you go back tomorrow, let me know

483
00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:37.039
<v Speaker 3>what you see, And the bigfoot was dug up, you know,

484
00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.599
<v Speaker 3>just an empty grave. And you know he's alluding to

485
00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:42.480
<v Speaker 3>the government cover up in that chapter.

486
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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, well as Tom does. I mean, honestly,

487
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:51.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, he loves a good conspiracy story. And I

488
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>imagine most conspiracies are not true, but I imagine some are.

489
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<v Speaker 2>But you know, at the end of the day, nothing

490
00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:58.680
<v Speaker 2>we can do about it, So what good does it

491
00:25:58.759 --> 00:25:59.119
<v Speaker 2>do us?

492
00:25:59.240 --> 00:25:59.400
<v Speaker 4>Right?

493
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.680
<v Speaker 3>The interesting one that the deathbed confession of Fort Knox

494
00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:05.440
<v Speaker 3>were that he killed they killed four of them. If

495
00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:08.200
<v Speaker 3>you listen to his story at the end, and again,

496
00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I was recording him on my phone. He had no

497
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:11.680
<v Speaker 3>idea was recording him. He was he was going to

498
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.839
<v Speaker 3>come on one of my expeditions and he wanted to

499
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:16.799
<v Speaker 3>know there was a hospital nearby, and I said, I

500
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:18.599
<v Speaker 3>better call the guy, and he goes, I'm my no,

501
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:21.000
<v Speaker 3>we're not a believer. And he tells me this horrific story.

502
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:23.359
<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the story, he goes, we

503
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:26.559
<v Speaker 3>were taken back to Ireland. It's called Ireland Army Hospital

504
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:29.440
<v Speaker 3>in Fort Knox, and a man with white hair came in.

505
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.799
<v Speaker 3>We had a sign non disclosure, We were given shots.

506
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.559
<v Speaker 3>They took her, took her battle dressed uniforms from us,

507
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.839
<v Speaker 3>never to speak of it again. And of course I said,

508
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:40.079
<v Speaker 3>why are you telling me now? And he goes, well,

509
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:46.119
<v Speaker 3>I've got terminal cancer. But he he said they they

510
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:49.640
<v Speaker 3>had a protocol like it wasn't like time went by.

511
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:52.599
<v Speaker 3>As soon as this happened. A guy came in and

512
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 3>they called him the creatures, is what he said. So

513
00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:58.119
<v Speaker 3>he made it sound like it wasn't the first time

514
00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:02.480
<v Speaker 3>this has happened, and the government obviously was sounds like

515
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:03.680
<v Speaker 3>they were covering this up.

516
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you this because one of the

517
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:10.279
<v Speaker 2>things I know you best for is interviewing witnesses. You know,

518
00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I've thrown you things in the past that I thought

519
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 2>you might be interested in, remember, like the bigfoot laying

520
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.519
<v Speaker 2>and the road sort of thing. That's a good one, yeah, yeah, yeah,

521
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:19.440
<v Speaker 2>And you and I remember you had a couple of

522
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:21.279
<v Speaker 2>stories like that. We can talk about that in a minute.

523
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:26.160
<v Speaker 2>But one of the things that any every Bigfoot researcher

524
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>who talks to witnesses runs into is how to discern

525
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:33.759
<v Speaker 2>the truth from from not truth? You know, and we

526
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:35.839
<v Speaker 2>all have our different things, you know, For me, I

527
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>really well, for me, I just kind of mostly ignore

528
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:40.880
<v Speaker 2>sighting reports because how am I supposed to know? And

529
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I try to focus on other things. But I also

530
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>don't get as much out of them as other people

531
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 2>because like, you're very extroverted, you love people and you

532
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:50.200
<v Speaker 2>like interacting and stuff, and I'm none of those things,

533
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 2>so so I don't that's not my focus. But for

534
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Bigfoot researchers, witnesses are their primary focus.

535
00:27:58.319 --> 00:27:59.559
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if that's you or not, but

536
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:02.039
<v Speaker 2>I know that you really enjoy the witnessing and get

537
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:05.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot out of it. But how does someone any

538
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:08.160
<v Speaker 2>big for researcher separate the week from the shaft?

539
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:08.359
<v Speaker 3>Like?

540
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>How do we get to the truth? And there's there's

541
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.519
<v Speaker 2>certainly a grading of truth as well. There's complete bs

542
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:17.559
<v Speaker 2>on one end, but there's a lot of gray in

543
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>there too, where there's embellishments and miss memory issues, and

544
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:28.599
<v Speaker 2>then there's language issues and interpretation issues, anthropraborifizing the animals,

545
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:31.599
<v Speaker 2>and there's all these other things. So you want to

546
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 2>talk about that too, just for a few moments. Here,

547
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 2>what's your approach from dealing with people.

548
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:43.559
<v Speaker 3>Here's the deal with witnesses. You know, witness testimony is

549
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:47.400
<v Speaker 3>admissible in court and helps put people to jail or

550
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.680
<v Speaker 3>and so forth, So witnesses are crucial in the court

551
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 3>of law. And I know this is a little different,

552
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:58.279
<v Speaker 3>but witnesses have, like Les Straus says that witnesses of

553
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:01.000
<v Speaker 3>everything to lose nothing to gain most of the time

554
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:03.680
<v Speaker 3>from the ridicule and so forth, and especially to go

555
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 3>on camera and videotape them. I'm not paying the money.

556
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:10.440
<v Speaker 3>They get ridiculed. More than that, he get praised for

557
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.039
<v Speaker 3>coming forward. So that's one thing. The second thing is

558
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 3>my degree is in psychology actually, and one thing I

559
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>don't remember much from college. Okay, there's only a couple

560
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 3>of things I remembered, but my sociology class. I remember this.

561
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:28.599
<v Speaker 3>When a person tells a story, they have an audience,

562
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 3>whether it's one person or a crowd, and it's human

563
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.519
<v Speaker 3>nature to sell your story to that audience. So what

564
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.000
<v Speaker 3>you tend to do is embellish your story, especially something

565
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 3>is far fetched to seeing a bigfoot. Of course you're

566
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 3>going to exaggerate. You know, the fish wasn't this big.

567
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.039
<v Speaker 3>The fish was this big, So you know you got

568
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 3>to take that in consideration that there is some exaggeration,

569
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 3>some embellishment. You want to get to the facts. And

570
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.319
<v Speaker 3>I ask open ended questions. I don't lead the witness

571
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 3>in any way. I go what happened, Let them tell

572
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 3>me the story. If their story matches from their email

573
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 3>to their phone conversation to when I meet him in person,

574
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:13.359
<v Speaker 3>I generally can tell this guy really saw something.

575
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and

576
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Bogo will be right back after these messages.

577
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<v Speaker 3>The bigfoot laying the road is a good example of one.

578
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 3>This lady was a nurse for twenty some years. She

579
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.480
<v Speaker 3>took this back road every morning at five am to

580
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.359
<v Speaker 3>go to the hospital. Was through the woods on a

581
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.079
<v Speaker 3>little dirt road, and she saw this bigfoot laying in

582
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:47.400
<v Speaker 3>the road, and she stopped. And the bigfoot was laying

583
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 3>in the fetal position, and it stood up without using

584
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.599
<v Speaker 3>the aid of its arms. Like Albert Osman. You know

585
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:57.079
<v Speaker 3>when Albert Osman said that the bigfoot was in the

586
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 3>cave and it would stand up without using their arms,

587
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 3>which is pretty amazing to stand up. I don't think

588
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Bobo could do that even.

589
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:05.920
<v Speaker 4>Got it from laying down with no rms.

590
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.160
<v Speaker 3>No, it was like sitting like say, you're just sitting

591
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.839
<v Speaker 3>against the wall. Can you stand up without using your arms?

592
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

593
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, be brutal, you can't, I mean hard right, yeah.

594
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>But if anybody can do it, Bobo can.

595
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:22.319
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't it John Green that interviewed Albert about was captive

596
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:22.839
<v Speaker 3>in the cave.

597
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, he said they stood up. They'd sit like

598
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.480
<v Speaker 5>cross legged and they would just rise without like.

599
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 4>Pop right up with no right.

600
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, not many people know that, right, A lot of

601
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot researchers know that story. But this little old lady

602
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.400
<v Speaker 3>didn't know that story. So it was laying in the

603
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:42.279
<v Speaker 3>fetal position, which, by the way, up until that point,

604
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 3>I've never heard of a big foot laying in the road. Okay,

605
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 3>So I took that report, interviewed her, sweet old lady,

606
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 3>very credible, didn't have the internet even and anyway she goes, yeah,

607
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 3>it was laying in the fetal position with the it's

608
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 3>back to her. And then when she hit the high

609
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 3>beams on it, because she stopped, it stood up without

610
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 3>using its arms. When it went just walk, it threw

611
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.079
<v Speaker 3>one arm ount in front of it, you know, typical

612
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:10.680
<v Speaker 3>arm swing. It threw one hour out and then it

613
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 3>took a step. It turned at the waist. She said,

614
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 3>it did not turn its head, you know, because the

615
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:19.880
<v Speaker 3>huge trapeziest muscles and such, you know, like Patty, they

616
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.799
<v Speaker 3>kind of twisted the waist. And then it was like gliding.

617
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 3>She said, it was gliding on skates. All these terminologies,

618
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:30.720
<v Speaker 3>all these behaviors. She had no idea that bigfoots do

619
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 3>this stuff. And then it walked off the road, and

620
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm like wow. So then I go, I wonder if

621
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:40.519
<v Speaker 3>there are more bigfoot reports of them laying in the road.

622
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 3>And sure enough, I found half a dozen various websites,

623
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 3>credible websites, credible researchers who had some reports of bigfoots

624
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:53.400
<v Speaker 3>laying in the road. I'm guessing, you know, it's cold out,

625
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:56.720
<v Speaker 3>this was wintertime. It was keeping warm. It's my hunch.

626
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.119
<v Speaker 3>But this lady didn't know that even you know, well

627
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 3>that's a witness. I would say is credible, because again

628
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 3>she's not a researcher. She didn't even have the Internet.

629
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 3>How would she know some of this stuff.

630
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I've talked at least seven or eight people that

631
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 5>have seen him laying in the road.

632
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Well what did they say, Bobo?

633
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like they're laying there in the fetal position. They're

634
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 5>always in the feedal position. A couple of years ago,

635
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 5>I did that one down here where the off duty

636
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 5>higher patrolman saw that one.

637
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:25.960
<v Speaker 4>He reported the BFRO.

638
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:28.880
<v Speaker 5>I went down to the big investigation for matt on

639
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.240
<v Speaker 5>it like, I took a bunch of pictures and spoke

640
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:31.720
<v Speaker 5>to the guy.

641
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 4>A few times.

642
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:34.160
<v Speaker 5>And you know, it's weird whether on the side of

643
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 5>the road of the middle of road. They're always on

644
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 5>the painted line, But whether the middle or the side

645
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.160
<v Speaker 5>of the road, that's strange.

646
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:43.480
<v Speaker 3>There's another one. So a lady came to one of

647
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.920
<v Speaker 3>my expeditions and she was, oh, by the way, my

648
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 3>brother saw Bigfoot. Oh where Oh in Kentucky? Give me

649
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.640
<v Speaker 3>his number, man, I want to interview him. Right. So

650
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.319
<v Speaker 3>months go by and I finally got in contact with him.

651
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.240
<v Speaker 3>He used to work for UPS, which is right kind

652
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:02.720
<v Speaker 3>of near Fort Knox, same area, and he worked second

653
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:06.119
<v Speaker 3>shift and was late going home. And where he drove,

654
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 3>I've got dozens of bigfoot sightings. It's a place over

655
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:15.960
<v Speaker 3>by Bernheim Forest, and I've got two park rangers had

656
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 3>seen him in Bernheim Forest. I've got a sheriff, Dipity

657
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:25.400
<v Speaker 3>that had seen him multiple times, same area. And he said, well,

658
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't tell many people this story. I just I

659
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 3>told my family I was it. He goes, do not

660
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 3>use my name because I'm an engineer with ups work

661
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 3>on planes, and so you know, I appreciate you not

662
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 3>using my name. But basically what happened. I was driving

663
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 3>this road. I was in an F three point fifty,

664
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's a pretty big truck, and this big

665
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:48.119
<v Speaker 3>was walking along next to the road, right on the

666
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:51.880
<v Speaker 3>white line, and his backwards to me. And I went

667
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.199
<v Speaker 3>right by him. And when I went by him, I

668
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:57.000
<v Speaker 3>could not see his head, that's how tall he was.

669
00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:59.599
<v Speaker 3>It was above my cab on my truck. And he

670
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 3>took he had took one step off the white line

671
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:04.320
<v Speaker 3>like he was going to walk in the road, and

672
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.639
<v Speaker 3>then as I approached him, he stepped back over. He said,

673
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 3>look like a like a big gorilla, you know, just

674
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 3>covered in hair massive. He goes, I don't tell people

675
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 3>the story I told my family. This guy, it goes

676
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:20.239
<v Speaker 3>back to witnesses that have everything to lose, nothing in

677
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.960
<v Speaker 3>the game. This guy did not contact me, did not

678
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 3>want to be on a podcast or YouTube for any

679
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of attention. This is another witness that I put

680
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.760
<v Speaker 3>on a pin on a map of dozens of sightings

681
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 3>that I call a credible witness, not looking for attention.

682
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:41.480
<v Speaker 3>And that's how I weed out a lot of these witnesses,

683
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:45.440
<v Speaker 3>the ones that don't even want to talk about it.

684
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I have another guy real quick. Another report came up

685
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 3>right and long story short, she said her husband saw

686
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 3>one along the parkway again. This is by the Red

687
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 3>River Gorge where that where we're having this festival. By

688
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 3>the way, he was driving home late late in the

689
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 3>day and he saw bigfoot in the same area where

690
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I just put a report across the parkway of another

691
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 3>guy driving back to Ohio saw bigfoot walking across his field.

692
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:14.880
<v Speaker 3>And I go, man, can I talk to your husband?

693
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:15.679
<v Speaker 4>So what man?

694
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 3>She goes, Well, he's a car salesman and he works

695
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.119
<v Speaker 3>like sixty hours a week. I don't know when he

696
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 3>has time. I go we will come to your house. Now.

697
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:30.599
<v Speaker 3>These are strangers never met him. Eventually they said, okay, fine,

698
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 3>come out this Sunday. They let my wife and I

699
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 3>complete strangers come to their house on their porch. And

700
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 3>he had a no joke. He had like five little

701
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.719
<v Speaker 3>girls all under the age of ten, like running around,

702
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:49.599
<v Speaker 3>and he had a beautiful family. And he let us

703
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 3>strangers come to his house. And I viewed him on

704
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.440
<v Speaker 3>his porch. His video interview is on my YouTube channel,

705
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.800
<v Speaker 3>so you could watch it, and he tells the story

706
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:03.000
<v Speaker 3>of watching a bigfoot walking across you know, on the

707
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 3>side of the parkway in the field right he pulled

708
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:09.559
<v Speaker 3>over watched it. Very credible story. This is a witness

709
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:14.679
<v Speaker 3>I believe. I think, why would he take the time

710
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 3>out of his busy schedule with young children and let

711
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 3>these strangers come to his house for what reason? So

712
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:23.559
<v Speaker 3>that's what I'm getting at a lot of these witnesses.

713
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 3>You got to know the backstory on and that's why

714
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:30.199
<v Speaker 3>I think it's crucial their testimony and witnesses tell us

715
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot. We don't have a lot of videos a bigfoot,

716
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:34.679
<v Speaker 3>We don't have a lot of pictures of bigfoot. The

717
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.800
<v Speaker 3>witnesses tell us what they look like. The close encounters

718
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:42.039
<v Speaker 3>in Kentucky where I'm talking face to face encounters and

719
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 3>they have a wide hooded nose and thin lips and

720
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.480
<v Speaker 3>squared off teeth and big black guys and heavy brows,

721
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:52.480
<v Speaker 3>sagital crests. All these physical characteristics are the same. Because

722
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.559
<v Speaker 3>of all these witnesses, they keep saying the same thing

723
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.880
<v Speaker 3>over and over again. So witnesses tell us what they

724
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.239
<v Speaker 3>look like where they live. So I put pins on

725
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.840
<v Speaker 3>the map, and that's where we go. You know, cliffs

726
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:08.199
<v Speaker 3>like to go find tracks and record audio, and so

727
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 3>witness testimony is crucial, I think to Bigfoot research.

728
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it certainly laid a foundation on which we all

729
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:19.239
<v Speaker 2>stand in many many ways. But to me, they come

730
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:23.199
<v Speaker 2>down to they're a sign post of where I should

731
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.880
<v Speaker 2>be looking. And I think that's the main use, you know,

732
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 2>because I think I talked about this a few weeks

733
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.199
<v Speaker 2>on the podcast. Like whenever I hear a story about

734
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>something or anything bigfoot related, my next question is always, now,

735
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.320
<v Speaker 2>what what do we do about that? How is that

736
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:38.920
<v Speaker 2>going to help me anyway? How is that going to

737
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:40.280
<v Speaker 2>help me? See one, how is that going to help

738
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:40.760
<v Speaker 2>the animals?

739
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 4>How?

740
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 3>Now?

741
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:42.679
<v Speaker 2>What what do we do with that?

742
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.880
<v Speaker 3>We put a pin on a map and then what

743
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:48.119
<v Speaker 3>was it eating? Oh, it was carrying a deer, always

744
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:50.960
<v Speaker 3>picking apples off a tree. We know they're omnivores because

745
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:54.480
<v Speaker 3>I've got witnesses seeing them eat apples off trees, chasing deer,

746
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:58.880
<v Speaker 3>picking up roadkill, dumpster diving. So we have a we

747
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:03.599
<v Speaker 3>could form some information on what they eat, where they live,

748
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:08.400
<v Speaker 3>their behaviors based on witnesses, because what we learn about

749
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot about their behaviors, you know, So then we

750
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:13.159
<v Speaker 3>can learn where do they live. Are they completely nocturnal

751
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.440
<v Speaker 3>or do they have a polyphasic sleep cycle which I

752
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.679
<v Speaker 3>had surmised that they sleep every four to six hours

753
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 3>and they move, they keep moving sleeping. Maybe have a

754
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 3>century stand guard business based on witnesses of what they

755
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:29.039
<v Speaker 3>told me, so, you know, because we've got daytime sightings,

756
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.079
<v Speaker 3>nighttime sightings. So I think it's advantageous for them to

757
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:36.119
<v Speaker 3>sleep for six hours, then move somewhere else, hunt whatever,

758
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:39.239
<v Speaker 3>and then sleep again. Have a century stand guard and

759
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:42.199
<v Speaker 3>that way we don't walk up on them sleeping all day. Right,

760
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.000
<v Speaker 3>they're not living in a cave or making a house

761
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 3>where they sleep all day. Where hikers can walk up

762
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:51.000
<v Speaker 3>on them or hunters, so I think they move a lot,

763
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:55.119
<v Speaker 3>they sleep, take lots of naps, so to speak. And

764
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:57.480
<v Speaker 3>again a lot of this is just based on witness

765
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.679
<v Speaker 3>testimony in my own personal you know, honors and such.

766
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:03.880
<v Speaker 3>So we try to paint a picture based on what

767
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, witnesses in our own our own interactions.

768
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Are Now have you and I know the vast majority

769
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:11.840
<v Speaker 2>of your research has been in the Kentucky area, I mean,

770
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 2>hence hence your your website, Kentucky Bigfoot Research, which is

771
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky Bigfoot dot com. But have you had the opportunity

772
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:24.599
<v Speaker 2>to explore vastly different areas of the country, I like,

773
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:26.800
<v Speaker 2>like I'm not sure to say, like Tennessee would be

774
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:29.639
<v Speaker 2>a vastly different area, you know, like have you been

775
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:32.639
<v Speaker 2>to the Pacific northwest or the Southwest for example, or

776
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 2>up in Canada or anything. Because I'm curious if you

777
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 2>have noticed, even after speaking with a number of witnesses

778
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 2>from these areas, any major differences in behavior other than

779
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.320
<v Speaker 2>like what the whatever is whatever resources are available, you know,

780
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 2>like maybe deer in certain parts of the country, but

781
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 2>pigs in another part of the part of the country.

782
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:56.199
<v Speaker 2>Have you noticed any vastly different behaviors geographically.

783
00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:00.400
<v Speaker 3>So the only places I've been squatching that you don't

784
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 3>like that word quatching, but you know, doing research. I've

785
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:09.480
<v Speaker 3>been down in Florida. I've been in Georgia, of course, Tennessee,

786
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:15.039
<v Speaker 3>West Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, but not out there by you yet.

787
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:16.800
<v Speaker 3>That's all my bucket list to get out there by you,

788
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 3>Cliff Bobo. But one thing I didn't notice, one little thing,

789
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.639
<v Speaker 3>and it's just behavior wise. In Kentucky, the bigfoos here

790
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:32.559
<v Speaker 3>are not threatening that I don't have one report of

791
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 3>them hurting a person in over three decades, over seven

792
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 3>hundred witnesses, some very close encounters where the bigfoot could

793
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.039
<v Speaker 3>have grabbed, could have hurt the witness, and the bigfoot

794
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:48.239
<v Speaker 3>does not. I think they've adapted over thousands of years.

795
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.480
<v Speaker 3>They're smart enough to know to keep their distance because

796
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.679
<v Speaker 3>they know we kill stuff, and so they know just

797
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 3>to observe us. They're curious, et cetera. You know, the

798
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:01.320
<v Speaker 3>whole deal. But in Kentucky, we live in their backyards

799
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:04.280
<v Speaker 3>and they live in our backyards, so they learn to

800
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:06.960
<v Speaker 3>live side by side with us. Yeah, they look in

801
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.639
<v Speaker 3>a lot of windows. They're look in cars. You know,

802
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:14.559
<v Speaker 3>they come up in neighborhoods. So Kentucky's unique in a

803
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 3>way because of the proximity to them where I would think,

804
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:23.039
<v Speaker 3>and you know, Pacific Northwest or Canada and such, you

805
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.920
<v Speaker 3>don't have as many reports because you know, like you said,

806
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:27.679
<v Speaker 3>there's two things. You need to have a sighting. You

807
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 3>need a bigfoot in the witness. And we you know

808
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:33.119
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people don't live right up against them

809
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:35.599
<v Speaker 3>in Canada and such, where in Kentucky we live in

810
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:37.800
<v Speaker 3>their backyards. So that's why we have so many sightings

811
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 3>in Kentucky. But I think they learn to respect us

812
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.159
<v Speaker 3>in a way, or they're just smart. They know to

813
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 3>keep their distance from us. So I know there's other

814
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:51.159
<v Speaker 3>areas that could be more threatening, like you know, Alaska

815
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.159
<v Speaker 3>or someplace where they suppose they kill people or I

816
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:56.280
<v Speaker 3>don't know, but I mean I think here they know

817
00:42:56.480 --> 00:43:01.039
<v Speaker 3>to survive. They can't they can't touch us, or we will.

818
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:06.199
<v Speaker 3>People in Kentucky have guns and we will come hunt them.

819
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll say, yeah, you know what else Kentucky has

820
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 2>that I've always been very impressed with Kentucky. I really

821
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:14.599
<v Speaker 2>like that spot that that state for bigfoot in general,

822
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:18.320
<v Speaker 2>it's a jungle. Of all the places I've been, at

823
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 2>least in the States during the summertime, that is the

824
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.599
<v Speaker 2>place that reminds me most of Vietnam. The jungles of

825
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Vietnam is Kentucky. And I also know that Bobo loves

826
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky as well for similar reasons.

827
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:33.360
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, love that whole is in Tennessee, Kentucky. It's

828
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 5>you can't western North Carolina, West Virginia.

829
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:36.639
<v Speaker 4>It's awesome.

830
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 3>In fact, that's a good segue to the Red River

831
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Gorge where the festival is going to be held. The

832
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:48.199
<v Speaker 3>Red River Gorge is the number one rock climbing destination

833
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:49.039
<v Speaker 3>in the country.

834
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Really in Kentucky. I would have thought it be in

835
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Utah or somewhere like that.

836
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 3>I would have thought that too. We're all so second

837
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 3>to Utah in natural bridges, and we would be number

838
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.119
<v Speaker 3>one if we classified every one of them that we

839
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.760
<v Speaker 3>have here in the Red River Gorge beautiful rock bridges.

840
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:09.400
<v Speaker 3>You can walk over them under them, So we're second

841
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:12.400
<v Speaker 3>in the nation and rock bridges. And where I think

842
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 3>we're still number one in airbnbs in the Red River Gorge.

843
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, weird, number one.

844
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:23.559
<v Speaker 3>Awesome, Yeah, but it's a beautiful place and you get

845
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 3>down in the gorge. It's like a mini Grand canyon.

846
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 3>You get down in there, and on the brightest of

847
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 3>days it is it is almost like it's midnight down

848
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:37.119
<v Speaker 3>inside the gorge with all the vines and the caves

849
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:40.840
<v Speaker 3>and the rock bridges, and you walk through there. Man,

850
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:45.800
<v Speaker 3>it is squatchy. It is creepy. In broad daylight, it

851
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:46.960
<v Speaker 3>feels like it's nighttime.

852
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Really wow, I'm not And how deep is the gorge?

853
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.199
<v Speaker 2>You have any idea, you know, I.

854
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Don't know that. I don't know that for sure, but

855
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:58.880
<v Speaker 3>it's it's kind of like a I would say many many, many,

856
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.800
<v Speaker 3>many many canyon. It doesn't even compare, but but it

857
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.360
<v Speaker 3>is pretty deep. You could hike down in there. There's

858
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:10.000
<v Speaker 3>lots of trails. People have gotten lost in there for weeks.

859
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:13.119
<v Speaker 3>There's a gentleman just not too long ago, for two

860
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:16.039
<v Speaker 3>weeks he was lost down there. I don't know how

861
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:19.880
<v Speaker 3>that can even happen, but they found him, thank god.

862
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo.

863
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Will be right back after these messages.

864
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:34.639
<v Speaker 4>Charlie Cashire real quick.

865
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.400
<v Speaker 5>Speaking of the topography there, you know, it's like it's

866
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 5>all kars limestone. There's tons of caves and old mines.

867
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:46.159
<v Speaker 5>And how how often do you hear people having like

868
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:48.599
<v Speaker 5>encounters involving a cave, whether like seeing one in there,

869
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 5>or going in or out of one, or like you know,

870
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:52.920
<v Speaker 5>like nesting or anything like that.

871
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:57.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's there's one. Uh, it's in the Red River wards.

872
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:01.079
<v Speaker 3>Actually a guy saw a bigfoot and he was camping

873
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:04.280
<v Speaker 3>in the cave. And the cave is you know, it

874
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.199
<v Speaker 3>was immense, and it had a two openings and the

875
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.000
<v Speaker 3>one opening you could look up to the roof and

876
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:11.920
<v Speaker 3>see them see the stars and the moon, and and

877
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 3>he had walked out and I think to take a pee,

878
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.960
<v Speaker 3>and walked right into a big foot basically standing there.

879
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:22.400
<v Speaker 3>And it's a great report. I took that report, and

880
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 3>years later doctor Russ Jones, you know, from West Virginia,

881
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:31.039
<v Speaker 3>he took the same report from the same witness. Oh

882
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 3>my god, I interviewed him, the same guy years ago.

883
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:35.920
<v Speaker 3>He was camping in the cave and saw the bigfoot.

884
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:37.320
<v Speaker 3>I go, oh, yeah, that's pretty cool.

885
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Was that Glenn the witness?

886
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:40.159
<v Speaker 4>You mean?

887
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

888
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:41.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

889
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I think we think we had him on the podcast

890
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.840
<v Speaker 1>in like the first year because that story sounds very familiar.

891
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:50.159
<v Speaker 3>I could be. I don't remember his name, but there's

892
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:53.000
<v Speaker 3>not many those caves. And what I tell people, you know,

893
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 3>Mammoth Cave is the largest cave system in the world

894
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:59.119
<v Speaker 3>here in Kentucky. There's not many reports of them in caves, okay,

895
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:03.079
<v Speaker 3>and I think too smart. You know, let's have an

896
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:06.119
<v Speaker 3>exit away out. Why would you risk it, you know,

897
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:08.360
<v Speaker 3>unless as severe weather and mean you could stay the

898
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:11.039
<v Speaker 3>night there. But they're not going to play house in

899
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:14.639
<v Speaker 3>a cave. It's too risky. So yeah, there's not many

900
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:15.760
<v Speaker 3>reports in caves here.

901
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, well, speaking of caves, I think we've touched upon

902
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.239
<v Speaker 2>this last time you're on the podcast. But it's such

903
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 2>a good story, I want to definitely bring it up again.

904
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:26.159
<v Speaker 2>Who was it?

905
00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:26.559
<v Speaker 4>Who was it?

906
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:28.599
<v Speaker 2>The guy? You know, everyone's going to know his name

907
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 2>when I think of it killed a Yahoo.

908
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Daniel Boone, Daniel Boone.

909
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:34.079
<v Speaker 2>There you go, Daniel Blinney. Of course, there's Daniel blin

910
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:36.960
<v Speaker 2>State Forest or National Forest down there in Kentucky as well.

911
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Now you located the cave, that's if I remember right.

912
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:43.000
<v Speaker 2>And has there ever been any follow up on that?

913
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay? Yeah, follow up on that? So The Daniel Boone

914
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:50.360
<v Speaker 3>National Forest runs the entire length of Kentucky north to south.

915
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:54.159
<v Speaker 3>The Red River Gorge, which, by the way, the festival

916
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:56.199
<v Speaker 3>is going to be in, the Red River Gorge is

917
00:47:56.199 --> 00:48:00.440
<v Speaker 3>in the Daniel Boone National Forest. Daniel Boone, as you know,

918
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 3>supposed to kill a Yahoo and it could have been

919
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 3>from you know, Gulliver's Travels. You know the yahoo in there.

920
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.079
<v Speaker 3>But you know what, he loved that book. But maybe

921
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 3>that's why he got the name. He liked the book.

922
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Then he sees a bigfoot and he calls it a Yahoo.

923
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.159
<v Speaker 3>So it doesn't mean just because he loved the book,

924
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.400
<v Speaker 3>he made the story up. You know, that's the name

925
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:23.159
<v Speaker 3>that reminded him of a giant. So anyway, the story

926
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:26.119
<v Speaker 3>goes this. Now, this is a new story. This is

927
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:31.559
<v Speaker 3>a new story based on my other research. The Shawnee. Uh,

928
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:34.119
<v Speaker 3>there's a couple of stories along the Kentucky River. One

929
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.800
<v Speaker 3>time the Shawnee kidnapped his daughter and a friend who

930
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.960
<v Speaker 3>were canoeing on the on the Kentucky River, and Daniel

931
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Boone it took him a couple of days to go

932
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:45.280
<v Speaker 3>get his daughter and friend back from the Shawnee. There's

933
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of this love hate relationship with the Shawnee, and

934
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 3>then to another occasion, the Shawnee stole some of his horses. Now, Daniel,

935
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:57.559
<v Speaker 3>just so you know, Daniel Boone Boonsborough is not far

936
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 3>from here. The fact is, I would say not even

937
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.960
<v Speaker 3>forty five minutes from my location. The Daniel Boonsboro where

938
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Daniel Boone lived in the late seventeen hundreds well known.

939
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.719
<v Speaker 3>It's near the Kentucky River and all these stories. And

940
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:16.840
<v Speaker 3>so Daniel took his son, who was an excellent marksman,

941
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.159
<v Speaker 3>right like Daniel, to go get his horses back from

942
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 3>the Shawnee, and I tracked it. He went all the

943
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:26.039
<v Speaker 3>way up to the Licking River where the Licking River

944
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:30.440
<v Speaker 3>meets the Ohio River. They crossed the Ohio I think

945
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.559
<v Speaker 3>they made a raft, and there was many Shawnee waiting

946
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:37.840
<v Speaker 3>for him, so he wisely turned around. When he came

947
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 3>back through there, there's something called the Warriors Path where

948
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:46.599
<v Speaker 3>the Buffalo trace, where the buffalo were, and it's well known.

949
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:50.440
<v Speaker 3>He came through there. He came down towards Clay City,

950
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:53.000
<v Speaker 3>which I used to own a motel there, and that's

951
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.920
<v Speaker 3>what I got excited. And there's another creek there called

952
00:49:56.639 --> 00:50:01.159
<v Speaker 3>love Grud Creek, lob Grud Creek, Love Grud Creek. There's

953
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:07.400
<v Speaker 3>a marker, historical marker there talking about Daniel Boone and

954
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:12.159
<v Speaker 3>in the book Gulliver's Travels, Love Grud Creek is in

955
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:17.239
<v Speaker 3>that book Gulliver's Travels. Okay, that's where Daniel Boone heard

956
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:20.960
<v Speaker 3>his son fire multiple shots. So what they would do,

957
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:24.079
<v Speaker 3>supposedly when they would hike, they would not hike together.

958
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:28.760
<v Speaker 3>They'd hike separate looking for resources. So Daniel's on one ridge,

959
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.320
<v Speaker 3>his son's on another ridge. They're coming back to Boonsboro

960
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.639
<v Speaker 3>from Ohio, and he hears his son fire multiple shots. Well,

961
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.920
<v Speaker 3>that's not like his son. His son was a marksman.

962
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:41.559
<v Speaker 3>So Daniel rushed to his aid. In this Yahoo, this

963
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:47.000
<v Speaker 3>ten foot plus harry creature Bigfoot, had his son up,

964
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:50.000
<v Speaker 3>grabbed him and threw him down to the ground. Daniel

965
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.280
<v Speaker 3>rushed up and shot it, hitting it in the face,

966
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:57.000
<v Speaker 3>actually hitting it in the eye, which killed it instantly,

967
00:50:57.360 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 3>Which makes sense to me because I always thought about

968
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:01.800
<v Speaker 3>the story, how can he kill one that big with

969
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:04.480
<v Speaker 3>a crude weapon back then? Well, if he hid in

970
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.519
<v Speaker 3>the eye, that's a weak spot to the brain. That

971
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:09.480
<v Speaker 3>makes a lot of sense. And that's how he could

972
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:11.400
<v Speaker 3>kill it, right. I don't know if he aimed for

973
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.360
<v Speaker 3>the eye, you know, he probably just shot at his head.

974
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.519
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, the creature fell, he revived his son. He

975
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:21.039
<v Speaker 3>took his tomahawk and he cut opened the chest where

976
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 3>his bullet another bullet, the sun is shot. I guess

977
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:26.920
<v Speaker 3>they retrieved the bullets. I don't know. And he said

978
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:31.239
<v Speaker 3>the weird thing was it had a solid breastplate. The

979
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:34.840
<v Speaker 3>ribs weren't separated. It was like one big bone, which

980
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.159
<v Speaker 3>I thought was interesting in the story because you hear

981
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.599
<v Speaker 3>people say, oh, they shoot him and they just run off.

982
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:42.519
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if that's something they adapted, you know, maybe

983
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.360
<v Speaker 3>help some kind of weird breastplate. I don't know, it's

984
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 3>just kind of weird. But anyway, he took his walking stick,

985
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:52.000
<v Speaker 3>laid it out multiple times by the creature, and when

986
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.159
<v Speaker 3>they got back to Boonsboro, it was over ten feet tall,

987
00:51:56.079 --> 00:51:58.800
<v Speaker 3>and the creature was more blonde in color. Wasn't dark.

988
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:02.400
<v Speaker 3>It was more of a blondish color. Or here's what's

989
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:07.039
<v Speaker 3>interesting about the story, right. Teddy Roosevelt writes about the

990
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Red River that Boom camped on the Red River. The

991
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Red River runs back and forth along the parkway right

992
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:17.960
<v Speaker 3>near Lovegrud Creek, and also the Red River Gorge where

993
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:19.960
<v Speaker 3>the festival is going to be. I keep adding that

994
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:23.320
<v Speaker 3>when I own that motel there in Clay City, in

995
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:25.800
<v Speaker 3>I would sell bigfoot cutouts out front.

996
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:26.079
<v Speaker 4>Right.

997
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:28.079
<v Speaker 3>A guy comes in, he goes, I want to cut out.

998
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:30.360
<v Speaker 3>I go, oh, did you have a sighting? Well, yeah,

999
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.719
<v Speaker 3>I grew up here. And the funny story about this seat.

1000
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.480
<v Speaker 3>He goes, look across the parkway there, see see that

1001
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.559
<v Speaker 3>ridge there? I go, yeah, my uncle owned that ridge

1002
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.519
<v Speaker 3>and back in the day, like goes, i'm your age,

1003
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:44.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm the late I'm in my late fifties. When we

1004
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:48.199
<v Speaker 3>were boys, we would play outside in the hot Kentucky

1005
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:51.760
<v Speaker 3>summer with no shirts on, you know, just shorts. And

1006
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.920
<v Speaker 3>we were playing on that ridge and some people from

1007
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Florida were driving down the park. When they stopped their car,

1008
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:01.840
<v Speaker 3>they backed up and they yelled at out the window, Hey,

1009
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:06.159
<v Speaker 3>we've never seen Kentucky hillbillies. Can we take y'all's picture?

1010
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:08.519
<v Speaker 2>That's polite?

1011
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:11.360
<v Speaker 3>And of course they obliged. They were tickled to death,

1012
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:14.760
<v Speaker 3>so they come over and pose for the picture. I go, well,

1013
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.360
<v Speaker 3>tell me about the bigfoot though, why are you interested?

1014
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:19.920
<v Speaker 3>In Bigfoot. So he goes, well, if you go right

1015
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:22.360
<v Speaker 3>up this road here, do you know where love Grud

1016
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:26.199
<v Speaker 3>Creek is? I go, really, are you serious? He goes, yeah,

1017
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:28.880
<v Speaker 3>love Grud Creek. We're playing hide and seek as kids.

1018
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:32.079
<v Speaker 3>I was in the bushes. There's a bright moon out

1019
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:35.519
<v Speaker 3>and this big, hairy creature ran right in front of

1020
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:37.679
<v Speaker 3>me as I was hiding in the bushes. It was

1021
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.280
<v Speaker 3>covered in hair. It was not one of my friends.

1022
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:43.159
<v Speaker 3>It was far too big. And I've been hooked on

1023
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot ever since. So it was interesting that he added

1024
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:50.920
<v Speaker 3>that story about love Grud Creek where Daniel Boone killed one. Again,

1025
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:53.320
<v Speaker 3>that was in the late seventeen hundred, so that's many,

1026
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:57.320
<v Speaker 3>many years ago. But we know they're living, breathing population.

1027
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:00.360
<v Speaker 3>They reproduce as long as we don't encroach on them.

1028
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.599
<v Speaker 3>They have food, shelter, they stay put, and I think

1029
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:06.920
<v Speaker 3>based on my research of all the sightings in this area,

1030
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:08.880
<v Speaker 3>they're still bigfoot here.

1031
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would think so, right.

1032
00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:13.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was kind of curious, like, in all the

1033
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.039
<v Speaker 6>research that I did trying to look into the Daniel

1034
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:17.800
<v Speaker 6>Boone story, it's only sourced in one book, and that

1035
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:20.400
<v Speaker 6>book was written in the nineteen nineties, and they don't

1036
00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:23.079
<v Speaker 6>cite a specific source for that, which is frustrating because

1037
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 6>you know, Boone, he experienced fame in his own lifetime,

1038
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:29.519
<v Speaker 6>not only in North America, but his fame had spread

1039
00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:32.280
<v Speaker 6>to Europe because there were many people that were contemporaries

1040
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:35.639
<v Speaker 6>of him, writing about him during his lifetime and sort

1041
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:39.239
<v Speaker 6>of taking down like his dictations and his stories and

1042
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.119
<v Speaker 6>things of that nature. And I know that one book

1043
00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:44.719
<v Speaker 6>from the nineties states that you know, Boone would often

1044
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.719
<v Speaker 6>tail tell this tale wherever he went, but it's not

1045
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:51.639
<v Speaker 6>referenced in any of the contemporary accounts of Boone's life

1046
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:54.519
<v Speaker 6>or even his later life or the accounts in the aftermath.

1047
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:56.880
<v Speaker 6>I always wondered, like, where did this author from the

1048
00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.079
<v Speaker 6>nineties get that from, because it would be great to

1049
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:01.119
<v Speaker 6>find some old source for that, for sure.

1050
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the frustrating part about it all. And like

1051
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:07.800
<v Speaker 3>you said, a lot of this just oral traditions passed down.

1052
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:11.880
<v Speaker 3>You know a lot of the indigenous people in North America,

1053
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:14.360
<v Speaker 3>the Native Americans, all passed stuff down to this early.

1054
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:16.559
<v Speaker 3>You don't know how much of it's true or not true,

1055
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:20.280
<v Speaker 3>because you know, the story is get embellished and did

1056
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:25.199
<v Speaker 3>he shoot a bear. The other story was, which is remarkable.

1057
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:27.800
<v Speaker 3>I got an old map. It was a hand drawn

1058
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:31.440
<v Speaker 3>map someone sent me from Ohio, and anyway, I pulled

1059
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:34.280
<v Speaker 3>it up on Google Earth and the creeks were the same,

1060
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:39.559
<v Speaker 3>Drake's Creek Drammel Creek, and they converged into one. I'm like,

1061
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.360
<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, that matches up Google Earth. Down. This

1062
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:46.360
<v Speaker 3>is down by kind of cross from Mammoth Cave. It's

1063
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:50.519
<v Speaker 3>over there in that same county. And Lauren Coleman told

1064
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 3>me about Monkey Cave Hollow because I called him on

1065
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:57.159
<v Speaker 3>that because I know the area very well. And Monkey

1066
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Cave Hollow is where the early sellers in the seventeen

1067
00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:05.239
<v Speaker 3>hundreds came across a tribe of monkey men where they

1068
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:07.880
<v Speaker 3>killed these monkey men. That's Lauren wright Side in his

1069
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:12.440
<v Speaker 3>book Serious America. So like, Lauren, where's that Monkey Cave Hollow? Oh,

1070
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:14.039
<v Speaker 3>do you know where Barren County is? I go, I

1071
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:16.480
<v Speaker 3>know Edminson County, Barron County. Yeah, that's right across from

1072
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.239
<v Speaker 3>Mammouth Cave. I know that well. So I took a

1073
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 3>lot of reports there and researched there. And then someone

1074
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.440
<v Speaker 3>says to me, this crude map hand drawn with the

1075
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:28.320
<v Speaker 3>early settlers, that a cabin with their name of the settlers,

1076
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.079
<v Speaker 3>and the interesting thing about it. At the top it

1077
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:32.880
<v Speaker 3>had like a picture of a cave and like it

1078
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.159
<v Speaker 3>looked like Daniel Boone or somebody of a gun and

1079
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:39.519
<v Speaker 3>said Daniel Boone killed a bear in this cave. And

1080
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:41.679
<v Speaker 3>then between the creeks at the bottom of the map

1081
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:47.400
<v Speaker 3>it said giant skeletons. Right. I thought, that's odd. You know,

1082
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 3>the giant skeletons up and down the Ohio Valley that

1083
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.960
<v Speaker 3>were documented for years and newspapers and no longer. They

1084
00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:56.559
<v Speaker 3>no longer exist for some reason. But I'm like, wow.

1085
00:56:56.719 --> 00:56:58.960
<v Speaker 3>So I went there. And the only reason I went

1086
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:01.280
<v Speaker 3>there I know the area new and matched Google Earth.

1087
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:05.320
<v Speaker 3>The two creeks, and I hiked up to the spot,

1088
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.760
<v Speaker 3>and that cave is there. It goes down on the ground.

1089
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Couldn't go down too far. It gets really really deep.

1090
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:14.199
<v Speaker 3>But the cave is exactly where it was in that map.

1091
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:18.199
<v Speaker 3>The creeks are exactly where they were. I wonder if

1092
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:20.679
<v Speaker 3>the giant skeletons are there, but it's a cornfield now,

1093
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.599
<v Speaker 3>like I'm not going to dig up the giant skeletons,

1094
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:25.639
<v Speaker 3>or if they were. I just thought it was interesting.

1095
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:26.559
<v Speaker 3>It kind of matched up.

1096
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but why are you digging on my property? That

1097
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.360
<v Speaker 2>happened to me people dig it on my property one day.

1098
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.039
<v Speaker 2>But well, you know what, Charlie, do you have time

1099
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:37.960
<v Speaker 2>to stick around for another hour with us for our members?

1100
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:40.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we can get into some of these stories

1101
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:40.800
<v Speaker 2>a little bit deeper.

1102
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I get.

1103
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, very good. Then why don't we close down

1104
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:45.960
<v Speaker 2>this session? But before we go, I know that there's

1105
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:47.320
<v Speaker 2>a couple of things that you want people to be

1106
00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:50.679
<v Speaker 2>aware of, But before we even get to the festival,

1107
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.559
<v Speaker 2>there's other stuff going on that we haven't even mentioned,

1108
00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.239
<v Speaker 2>and I think that we that's a that's a mistake

1109
00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:58.840
<v Speaker 2>on our part. Like, you have a new podcast, and

1110
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I know this because I'm going to be a guest

1111
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:04.079
<v Speaker 2>on it this coming week. So we have a new podcast.

1112
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Tell us about that, please.

1113
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:09.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay. So it's Tuesday nights at nine o'clock Eastern time.

1114
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 3>It's called The Bigfoot Hangout and most of it is

1115
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.960
<v Speaker 3>audience driven. We do have guests every now and then,

1116
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:20.280
<v Speaker 3>it's just only like our eighth or ninth episode, we've

1117
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:22.599
<v Speaker 3>had a few guests on there. And Cliff, you know,

1118
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.679
<v Speaker 3>thank you for coming on this Tuesday, because you know,

1119
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:29.000
<v Speaker 3>sometimes people get tired of us talking, so we want

1120
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:31.880
<v Speaker 3>somebody on there just to add some more research and information.

1121
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:35.840
<v Speaker 3>But it's fun and we enjoy it. We really enjoy it.

1122
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:38.960
<v Speaker 3>We love what we do. We don't do it for

1123
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:41.679
<v Speaker 3>the money. We don't do it for the fame or

1124
00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:46.800
<v Speaker 3>TV or books or conferences. We are true Bigfoot researchers

1125
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:49.119
<v Speaker 3>at heart. We love it. A lot of people don't

1126
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:49.559
<v Speaker 3>realize that.

1127
00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, ironically enough, speaking of books, you have one blue yeah,

1128
00:58:56.239 --> 00:58:58.719
<v Speaker 2>But then again, the guy with so many stories and

1129
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:02.559
<v Speaker 2>eyewitness reports, you should be sharing this. You should be

1130
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:06.239
<v Speaker 2>sharing your witness observation or interviews and the things that

1131
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:09.280
<v Speaker 2>you've picked up over time. Because I've said it many times,

1132
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:12.719
<v Speaker 2>data not shared is exactly the same as not having

1133
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:15.239
<v Speaker 2>any data at all, and you are just rich with it.

1134
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:16.800
<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad you came out with the book. But

1135
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:18.400
<v Speaker 2>you're right, we don't do this sort of thing for

1136
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:20.440
<v Speaker 2>fame or money. It would be a fool to do

1137
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:24.079
<v Speaker 2>this for money. I mean, the money's nice when you

1138
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:25.880
<v Speaker 2>can make beer money or something like that, or in

1139
00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:28.119
<v Speaker 2>my case, open a museum and somehow scratch a living

1140
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:31.320
<v Speaker 2>on it. But you don't you don't do this to

1141
00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to gain fame and notoriety and roll around and wads

1142
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:39.280
<v Speaker 2>of dollar bills all day long. It's ridiculous. You'd be stupid.

1143
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:43.159
<v Speaker 2>But you did write a book, and I know we

1144
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:45.480
<v Speaker 2>carry it in our museum. It's an excellent book, and

1145
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:48.079
<v Speaker 2>it's it's largely a witness accounts and your own research.

1146
00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:51.159
<v Speaker 2>It's called Bluegrass Bigfoot Encounters with the Kentucky wild Man

1147
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:54.800
<v Speaker 2>that came out a number of years ago. You mentioned

1148
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:57.360
<v Speaker 2>a pot, I mean a YouTube earlier in the episode.

1149
00:59:57.440 --> 00:59:59.360
<v Speaker 2>What is your YouTube channel name so people can go

1150
00:59:59.440 --> 00:59:59.800
<v Speaker 2>check it out.

1151
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:05.400
<v Speaker 3>We didn't abbreviate. It's Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization.

1152
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:06.760
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

1153
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Nothing fancy, just the name of an organization. Just dozens

1154
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:15.360
<v Speaker 3>and dozens of eyewitness reports on there, most of them.

1155
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:19.719
<v Speaker 3>There are no frills. There's no fancy music or graphics.

1156
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.239
<v Speaker 3>I just I put the date they saw it, where

1157
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:24.599
<v Speaker 3>they saw it, when they saw it, and then boom

1158
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:28.719
<v Speaker 3>there's them talking on camera. Really no fancy editing. It's

1159
01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:31.079
<v Speaker 3>just you get to hear the witness in their own words,

1160
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:34.039
<v Speaker 3>and you get to live vicariously through them.

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01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that's fantastic because so many people just love

1162
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:40.599
<v Speaker 2>the story. They love the human element of this whole

1163
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:43.440
<v Speaker 2>endeavor that we're into, and they get it straight from

1164
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:45.679
<v Speaker 2>the witness's mouth on camera, so you can read their

1165
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:49.440
<v Speaker 2>body language and get all into it, get all deeply

1166
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:52.280
<v Speaker 2>analytical as one wants to get, because I'm sure there's

1167
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:54.119
<v Speaker 2>tons of people saying, oh, he was looking the wrong

1168
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.800
<v Speaker 2>direction when he said that, I think he's lying or whatever.

1169
01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:58.239
<v Speaker 2>But at least you get that, you get a chance

1170
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:01.079
<v Speaker 2>to hear it directly from the witnesses his mouth, And

1171
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:03.880
<v Speaker 2>of course I think that a lot of people would

1172
01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:06.440
<v Speaker 2>really enjoy that, and there's no reason to have high

1173
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:08.519
<v Speaker 2>production value for that sort of thing, in my opinion.

1174
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Just give it to him straight, like raw data. That's

1175
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the best way to receive that stuff. And of course,

1176
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:15.519
<v Speaker 2>the final thing we want to push here is the

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01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Red River Gorge Bigfoot Festival, which is next weekend, the

1178
01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:22.400
<v Speaker 2>weekend of May thirty and thirty. First, I know I'm

1179
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:24.840
<v Speaker 2>going to be speaking there. Doctor Jeff Meldrim is going

1180
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:27.159
<v Speaker 2>to be speaking there, Some mountain monsters are going to

1181
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:30.000
<v Speaker 2>be in attendance, and of course Charlie you're going to

1182
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:32.239
<v Speaker 2>be doing a presentation, and of course the Great Tom

1183
01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Shay as well. So talk about a good lineup, a good, fun,

1184
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:41.159
<v Speaker 2>entertaining yet deeply research driven lineup, and not i't think

1185
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 2>you're going to get better than this.

1186
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:45.800
<v Speaker 3>I agree, and that's what that's the main emphasis of

1187
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:49.280
<v Speaker 3>the festival or the researchers. But then around that, we

1188
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.079
<v Speaker 3>wanted wanted we wanted to make it a family event.

1189
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:57.800
<v Speaker 3>So we have kids arts and crafts, games, contests, we

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01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:00.880
<v Speaker 3>have educational we have Smoky the Bear there talking about

1191
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:04.280
<v Speaker 3>fire safety. We've got the General Lee if you remember

1192
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:10.559
<v Speaker 3>the General Lee, just some other celebrities music. We have

1193
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 3>the movies. At night, we are doing the movie still.

1194
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:16.039
<v Speaker 3>We rented a huge screen on the lawn, so bring

1195
01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:19.679
<v Speaker 3>a chair in a blanket. We're showing Harry the Henderson's

1196
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.639
<v Speaker 3>and the Legend of Boggie Creek. At the end of

1197
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:26.320
<v Speaker 3>the day. We had a hot air balloon rides. We've

1198
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:31.000
<v Speaker 3>got the reptile Zoo. We have educational like Search and

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01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Rescue is going to be there talking about what do

1200
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:36.639
<v Speaker 3>you do if you're you're lost in the woods. So

1201
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:41.880
<v Speaker 3>it's educational, it's entertainment and it's all free, free, free.

1202
01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Where else do you get to see Cliff and meldrum

1203
01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.079
<v Speaker 3>speak for free. Not many places.

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01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:49.519
<v Speaker 2>No, that's going to be awesome. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna

1205
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:51.719
<v Speaker 2>have another Hawking Hills festival in your hands of this

1206
01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:54.559
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing with when tens of thousands of people

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01:02:54.639 --> 01:02:57.519
<v Speaker 2>could potentially show up to this sort of thing, you know,

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01:02:57.559 --> 01:02:59.599
<v Speaker 2>in the next couple of years, especially who knows what

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01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:01.360
<v Speaker 2>this for inaugural event is going to be, but I

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01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:03.880
<v Speaker 2>know I'm looking forward to it. And if you want

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01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:06.920
<v Speaker 2>to get more information about any of this, the website

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01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:10.920
<v Speaker 2>is r RG Bigfoot that clearly stands for Red River

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01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Gorge Bigfoot, but it's r RG bigfoot dot com or.

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<v Speaker 1>Click the link in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard Matt all right, Bobs, Hey, well, Bob, let's

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01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:21.760
<v Speaker 2>get out of here so we can go hop on

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01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:26.079
<v Speaker 2>with our members and continue the conversation with Charlie Raymond.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep, all right, folks, want to thank Charlion for coming out.

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01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:33.000
<v Speaker 5>Can take you bigfoot research. He's the man, so until

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01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:39.679
<v Speaker 5>next week you don't have to do keep it Squatchy.

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01:03:56.800 --> 01:04:00.480
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