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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it started, Ladies and Gentlemen, Hour
Speaker 2: number two, four o'clock hour. Here on a Thursday, A
Speaker 2: beautiful day, wendy, very windy. In fact, I was running
Speaker 2: around all day. It was one of those days that
Speaker 2: when I got here, I had already had a good
Speaker 2: amount of preparation taking care for the show. As I
Speaker 2: always say, believe it or not, I do prepare. But
Speaker 2: I was kind of kind of checked out for a
Speaker 2: couple of hours, just being busy doing you know, growing
Speaker 2: up stuff, running errands. Did get my car washed too,
Speaker 2: by the way, and a long line, very long line.
Speaker 2: But it went quick, like I'm pulled in and like,
Speaker 2: all right, if this thing goes as quickly as they
Speaker 2: as they claim it does, then then I shouldn't be
Speaker 2: a big deal. And sure enough, it went really quick.
Speaker 2: But I did the thing. I didn't put it.
Speaker 3: I thought I put it in neutral, and I didn't.
Speaker 2: So then it was in drive still and I took
Speaker 2: my foot off the brake and it bumped forward and
Speaker 2: there was like three due.
Speaker 3: Someone was in your passenger seat, what do I say?
Speaker 2: So then I I quickly stopped, and then he had
Speaker 2: me kind of like back up and get right back
Speaker 2: on the on what I needed to, you know, with
Speaker 2: the car needed to be sitting on. And then I
Speaker 2: put it in neutral and I put my hands up
Speaker 2: like I was getting out of the vehicle, as if
Speaker 2: I was being arrested at gunpoint. And then it went through,
Speaker 2: went smooth. So yeah, uh, the car got a bath,
Speaker 2: and it was it was very much needed. But anyways,
Speaker 2: I was checked out, thinking like maybe I missed some
Speaker 2: stuff that, you know, that that would have been good
Speaker 2: things to bring up on the show, and I really can't.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of things we're still gonna
Speaker 2: get to in these next couple of hours. But I
Speaker 2: always had that little fear about, all right, if I
Speaker 2: if I'm not plugged in on AX and Twitter for
Speaker 2: an hour, then I'm gonna miss something and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: feel like the biggest bozo out there, because you know,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be something that everybody's talking about and I
Speaker 2: just don't even know about it, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: that happens, like I I mean, I can't live online
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven one, because that wouldn't be healthy
Speaker 2: for me, and also like that that's not how I
Speaker 2: want to live. But with this there's always that, you know,
Speaker 2: I think even people listening now that just consume content
Speaker 2: like this show like it's just it's it's kind of
Speaker 2: like your lifestyle. Not to say that, like you know,
Speaker 2: it's your life.
Speaker 3: Maybe it is.
Speaker 2: If it is, then thank you for giving us your life.
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, like you want to
Speaker 2: you want to be up, you want to be up
Speaker 2: to date as best you can on like what's going
Speaker 2: on with the local teams around here and in you know, honestly,
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of how I've the people who consume
Speaker 2: stuff like this regularly, Like I feel like that's a
Speaker 2: lot of you. And there's some people that you know,
Speaker 2: you get in the car on your way home or
Speaker 2: I don't know where, maybe you're running your daily errands
Speaker 2: or whatever it is during three to six at some
Speaker 2: point in that window of time, and you catch us
Speaker 2: and you've enjoyed, hopefully, and if you and enjoyed, then
Speaker 2: you probably wouldn't keep listening. But anyways, this is not
Speaker 2: something that I'd planned on talking about, but I do
Speaker 2: find it interesting? Have you heard about the most recent
Speaker 2: media fight?
Speaker 3: You hear about this all time? We got to talk
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: So a guy who I've never really known who he was, Like,
Speaker 2: I've never understood like where he came from, like what
Speaker 2: his background is. But he's got a ton of followers.
Speaker 2: He does the thing on He's one of those guys
Speaker 2: that probably got his foot in the door with a legitimate,
Speaker 2: like mainstream media type job covering sports because he had
Speaker 2: a massive following that he built online that the network
Speaker 2: simply knew they could benefit from that. And his name
Speaker 2: is Jordan Schultz. You know who that is, So google
Speaker 2: him Jordan Schultz s c ch u ltz because I
Speaker 2: have a feeling you may recognize as mug because he's
Speaker 2: somebody that like. And I'm trying to pull up his
Speaker 2: Twitter and this used to be like I don't think
Speaker 2: this is still a thing, but there's a lot of
Speaker 2: folks like you ever heard the name Gosh, I can't
Speaker 2: think of this guy's They used to cover the NBA
Speaker 2: and work for I think the ringer Sam Vassini.
Speaker 3: You know that name?
Speaker 2: Yes, So Sam Bassini, a guy who, again, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what's back. I've seen this guy so
Speaker 2: like he he'll have like I'm trying to find his
Speaker 2: his socials. I don't see him on ya on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Is this is a legitimate Yeah, his Twitter account. I
Speaker 2: mean he's got three hundred and twenty five point five
Speaker 2: thousand followers on Twitter, but he also follows one hundred
Speaker 2: and eight thousand people, So he did a lot of
Speaker 2: mass follow to get a follow in return, because they'll see, wow.
Speaker 3: Schultz Report he works for Fox. Yeah, used to work
Speaker 3: for Bleacher Report.
Speaker 2: Like they'll they'll see that and think, Okay, I better
Speaker 2: be following this guy. He chose to follow me. But
Speaker 2: really it's just strategic. Sam Vassini did the same thing.
Speaker 2: And look, they do good work. Clearly they're they're they're
Speaker 2: making they're in the business. So I don't want to
Speaker 2: like act like I'm belittling them, but really like they
Speaker 2: became kind of big online before they got it, and
Speaker 2: like that's that's not that uncommon.
Speaker 3: But anyways, what I was getting at is he.
Speaker 2: Is he's always claimed to be, you know, a real
Speaker 2: big insider, like getting all the scoop, and I think
Speaker 2: he currently works.
Speaker 3: For is it Fox?
Speaker 2: Let me pull it up here anyways, he was in
Speaker 2: he got into it, and I don't even like, can
Speaker 2: you call it a fight if it's not physical, you can,
Speaker 2: because like couples fight, but it's not physical. But he
Speaker 2: is now with Fox Sports, and he confronted NFL Networks
Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport, who everybody knows, right like rap sheet, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he's he's he's to me, the closest competition
Speaker 2: that Chefty has, right, Yeah, I mean like it because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's so you know. I actually I like Rappaport quite
Speaker 2: a bit, but sometimes he can do like he can
Speaker 2: he can just be you know, like it's just a
Speaker 2: personal taste kind of thing for me. But like if
Speaker 2: you take yourself like way too serious, like it's just like,
Speaker 2: you know, not that I don't like you, not that
Speaker 2: I don't respect you, it's just like, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: It's not that serious, bro, Like I don't, you know,
Speaker 2: nothing bothers me more And I don't know why. It's
Speaker 2: just everybody's got something that just gets to them, gets
Speaker 2: under their skin, and you don't even really know why.
Speaker 2: You wish it didn't bother you the way it does.
Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't bother other people the way it
Speaker 2: bothers you. But the live on air rather be a
Speaker 2: radio interview, or you're doing a TV hit on set
Speaker 2: of Sports Center and you got three phones on the table.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you don't need three phones, you jerk.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say you a whole like, like, like,
Speaker 2: what are you trying to like you don't need three phones?
Speaker 2: Like you're just trying to make it very obvious that
Speaker 2: you're so connected when we already know that.
Speaker 3: And then like when.
Speaker 2: Chefty's when Chef Y's live on TV with Scott Van
Speaker 2: Pelt and he has to do look, Scott, I'm.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I.
Speaker 2: Got I gotta, I gotta take this s Austin sorry, Like.
Speaker 3: That's not real.
Speaker 2: And you and I, if you're really doing your job,
Speaker 2: ESPN wouldn't put you up there to do it. They
Speaker 2: would say, no, you work the phones. We pay you
Speaker 2: the big bucks to break the stories. And like it's
Speaker 2: just such an obvious force to make it look like,
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's got everything, which again they do
Speaker 2: have the scoops, but it just has always been such
Speaker 2: a fake thing to look like everybody's wanting to talk
Speaker 2: to you, and like It's just it's like an insecurity
Speaker 2: thing that you want that to be even more evident
Speaker 2: than it it's already naturally there, like, don't overdo it.
Speaker 3: Does it makes sense.
Speaker 4: Get picked on in high school having a as people.
Speaker 2: Say, Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if that was the
Speaker 2: background in anyways, these two guys, I guess the best
Speaker 2: word to use. Everybody's calling it a media fight, which
Speaker 2: I do love. I do love the I think I
Speaker 2: might have been a Bigcat from Barstool who put it
Speaker 2: out there as far as how he described it, But anyways,
Speaker 2: Fox Sports reporter Jordan Schultz confronted NFL Network reporter Ian
Speaker 2: Rappaport in person at the Starbucks and the JW.
Speaker 3: Marriott Lobby.
Speaker 2: So apparently this happened in Indianapolis at the NFL Draft combine.
Speaker 2: It was first reported in detail by Pro Football Talk
Speaker 2: and then ended up coming up on the Barstool podcast
Speaker 2: Pardon My Take with PFT and Bigcat, and it says
Speaker 2: the two dueling NFL insiders were at odds over conflicting
Speaker 2: reports regarding Tom Brady and Matt Stafford. Earlier in the day,
Speaker 2: Schultz reported that Brady recently hosted Stafford at his home
Speaker 2: in Montana with the intent of wooing the quarterback to
Speaker 2: the Raiders. Rappaport contradict the report, saying that the two
Speaker 2: ran into each other and that the meeting was unplanned,
Speaker 2: was not extensive or in depth, and did not include
Speaker 2: Brady hosting or recruiting Stafford, despite reports saying otherwise. So
Speaker 2: Schultz then doubled down, writing quote, if you really think
Speaker 2: Tom Brady and Matt Stafford just happened to run into
Speaker 2: each other at a ski resort in Montana, of all places,
Speaker 2: at the exact same time, I've got a bridge to
Speaker 2: sell you. Eventually, Brady's agent did end up telling Rapaport
Speaker 2: at Rappaport's NFL media colleague, Tom Pellasero, quote, I know
Speaker 2: that reporters sometimes make mistakes in their haste, but this
Speaker 2: story's inaccurate.
Speaker 3: So, according to Pro.
Speaker 2: Football Talk, Schultz verbally accosted Rappaport at the Starbucks and
Speaker 2: basically saying this is what he said. If you have
Speaker 2: anything to say to me, say it to my effing face.
Speaker 2: If this continues, we're going to have an effing problem problem.
Speaker 2: Schultz told the outlet that he didn't remember using profanity,
Speaker 2: but acknowledged having a verbal confrontation with Rappaport, who referred
Speaker 2: to the altercation who by the way, yeah, he told
Speaker 2: on him went.
Speaker 3: To the NFL security.
Speaker 2: Schultz and reps for Rappaport and NFL media did not
Speaker 2: immediately respond to text messages from Front Office Sports seeking comment.
Speaker 2: So here here's what I believe happened. So Rapaport, he's
Speaker 2: capital j og, traditional mainstream, he's he's appointed, right, my
Speaker 2: man established, my man Schultz self mate and.
Speaker 3: Does get scooped sometimes.
Speaker 2: And here's what I know about Schultz, A little bit young,
Speaker 2: younger guy. He's got his father. His father is a
Speaker 2: celebrity in some former fashion. Because I learned that recently
Speaker 2: and didn't know it, which that helped me. That actually
Speaker 2: helped me get a better understanding for sort of how
Speaker 2: Jordan Schultz was able to be like so connected without
Speaker 2: like really any reason other than you know, decent fol
Speaker 2: Like he's kind of an unknown guy, like you see him,
Speaker 2: Like when I said Jordan Schultz, you didn't know the
Speaker 2: name Austin, but when you look at his face you
Speaker 2: knew you've seen him.
Speaker 3: Right, So Howard Schultz is is.
Speaker 2: Is that is that the CEO of Starbucks because I knew, yes, so,
Speaker 2: but but is that really his Now now I gotta
Speaker 2: look it up because because the scenario, yeah, his son,
Speaker 2: yeah he so that that is that is an element
Speaker 2: to this. I wasn't even aware of that. The altercation
Speaker 2: took place at a Starbucks where, you know, his dad
Speaker 2: happens to be the founder of you know, one of
Speaker 2: the biggest brands on the planet. So that that that
Speaker 2: that explains a little bit more so how he's got
Speaker 2: some resources maybe some uh yeah, resources internally to kind
Speaker 2: of prop him, Like he can basically use money, daddy's
Speaker 2: money if if I may to like be an insider,
Speaker 2: right like, you know, not do it the traditional way.
Speaker 2: So here's what I have learned about Jordan Schultz when
Speaker 2: he does get scoops and when so he's very wealthy, right,
Speaker 2: so he actually hangs out with some players, Like I
Speaker 2: don't know if he's buying, like buying you know, if
Speaker 2: he's you know, paying a lot of money just to
Speaker 2: be able to rub elbows with him, if he's actually
Speaker 2: friends with him. But he he's talking more so to players.
Speaker 2: He doesn't talk to agents, the ogs like Chefty and
Speaker 2: of course rapaport, they talk to agents. Agents don't talk
Speaker 2: to Schultz because they don't see him as a legitimate guy.
Speaker 2: They just think he's some you know, But he's also
Speaker 2: not just some random dude in his mom's basement his
Speaker 2: dad found at Starbucks. So my guess is that he
Speaker 2: did get good info from just knowing people in the NFL,
Speaker 2: maybe one of those two. And this is this is
Speaker 2: you know, there's people here in this market, people who
Speaker 2: you know, cover Louisville that do a great job. They're
Speaker 2: as connected as anybody. But man, if somebody gets something
Speaker 2: before them, they will report the same thing, but report
Speaker 2: it entirely differently as if they actually had the scoop
Speaker 2: in the other person didn't.
Speaker 3: Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So like they hate to get got and get scooped
Speaker 2: by somebody that you know didn't go through the you know,
Speaker 2: didn't go through the you know, the boot camp. Whatever
Speaker 2: it is about being additional way exactly, I used to
Speaker 2: run into that all the time, and I don't really
Speaker 2: know what the path is now because now really getting
Speaker 2: into whatever this is like you better have you better
Speaker 2: be doing something elsewhere, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: you better be you know, you better have a platform
Speaker 2: that that was on your own, like whenever I used
Speaker 2: to get credentialed and I am now still, but like
Speaker 2: when I first started getting credential to go to cover
Speaker 2: UFL games just with my blog that I started, gosh
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, like it was a you get a
Speaker 2: lot of side eyes from people, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was this guy. Yeah, like this is Guy's
Speaker 3: not a case. Guy's not real. Who's he?
Speaker 2: So, like, you know, you you kind of get a
Speaker 2: chip on your shoulder. That's good, you bringing up to
Speaker 2: Dave Jennings. I like that, but the you know, you
Speaker 2: kind of get a chip on your shoulder and you
Speaker 2: kind of become hungry to maybe continue to do it.
Speaker 2: You're way, but like also work, work your ass off
Speaker 2: and and and you know get it. However, you do
Speaker 2: do a good job whatever way you whatever way is
Speaker 2: your way, if that makes sense. Like I remember, there
Speaker 2: were people that were not very nice to me, and
Speaker 2: I don't mean like they bullied me, but like they
Speaker 2: were they were pricks to be honest with you. And
Speaker 2: then there were some people that knew that that were
Speaker 2: kind of a part of the traditional media that that
Speaker 2: like were nice to me and like knew that, like
Speaker 2: people were kind of being crappy. And again, I don't
Speaker 2: want to misrepresent it like I was. I was going
Speaker 2: home and crying myself to sleep. But you know, you
Speaker 2: get some sideways looks. Uh, you know, you get you know,
Speaker 2: I remember saying hello to somebody who didn't say hello
Speaker 2: back to me intentionally and ignored me and it and
Speaker 2: it made me feel like I was two inches tall
Speaker 2: and it it made me mad and then sad, and
Speaker 2: then like I just realized, Okay, this is what it is.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna not care. I'm just going wrong with Tom.
Speaker 3: I'm just yeah, it's cold outside that when at there
Speaker 3: to day is brutal. Man.
Speaker 2: Don't let that son deceive if you. But anyways, he
Speaker 2: so you know, you remember that kind of stuff. And
Speaker 2: I won't say on the air who it is, but
Speaker 2: I'll tell you it is off the air, Austin. But anyways,
Speaker 2: there were people who you know, they kind of you know,
Speaker 2: they were friendly with me, and then some of them
Speaker 2: actually gave me a good opportunity.
Speaker 3: Like Chip Cosby.
Speaker 2: He was working at C and two Sports at the time,
Speaker 2: and you know he was He's a guy who covered
Speaker 2: Kentucky and U of L for for many years.
Speaker 3: Chip's a great.
Speaker 2: Guy, and he was kind to me and had me
Speaker 2: on his TV show, right, he had the blogger on
Speaker 2: his TV show, not one of the capitol Jay's still
Speaker 2: working in print journalism, and that, you know, that was
Speaker 2: a that he didn't have to do that, and that,
Speaker 2: you know, that one that helped me made me look
Speaker 2: more you know, official, even though I'm not. And you
Speaker 2: know that was nice. Cel Brown great to me when
Speaker 2: nobody else was. And see is a great guy, really
Speaker 2: good guy and does great work. And you know, I
Speaker 2: just I don't agree with everything he says at times.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure none of these guys agree with everything
Speaker 2: I say all the time. So it's not about like
Speaker 2: you know, it's just those are things that always stick
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 3: You know, Jeff Greer was great to me.
Speaker 2: He got here a little bit later after I'd already
Speaker 2: kind of started, but you know, he was Jeff's a
Speaker 2: good friend, and and you know, you remember those kind
Speaker 2: of people because but nowadays, like you go to a
Speaker 2: game Credentials, which I still go from time to time,
Speaker 2: and man, the majority of it is is fan driven creators,
Speaker 2: right like I called them creators. Creators now because it's
Speaker 2: not necessarily like just a blog, like you got to
Speaker 2: be creating content in all aspects of it, Instagram, TikTok,
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: So I think that's what happened here.
Speaker 2: I think Schultz, I think he probably did have because
Speaker 2: he's right. I mean, and this is where a rapaport
Speaker 2: screwed up. This is where he just got too big
Speaker 2: for his breeches and didn't read the room instead of
Speaker 2: just you know, because you're you know what you're I
Speaker 2: guess supposed to do. And I realized early on, like
Speaker 2: I did break. I did break two stories. I put
Speaker 2: them out before anybody else. And I don't say I
Speaker 2: broke them to say that nobody else had it. I
Speaker 2: just remember knowing that nobody else put it out there
Speaker 2: and I did, and I guess that led to me
Speaker 2: getting credit. But like that's there. Used to be like
Speaker 2: some real gatekeepers when it comes to stuff like that, right, Oh,
Speaker 2: I had it first on board. Well, it's not public information.
Speaker 2: I made a public information. I don't I don't sign
Speaker 2: up to go to read your board, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, but Ryan Taylor was a twenty eleven
Speaker 2: signee for Louisville. Rick Patino was from Indianapolis, ended up
Speaker 2: transferring to Louisville Western High School, and I knew that
Speaker 2: he did not qualify academically and was not going to
Speaker 2: make it, which ended up happening. He ended up ended
Speaker 2: up going I think, to do a year at hard
Speaker 2: Grave and then you up at Marshall, I believe, but
Speaker 2: I put it out there that he didn't qualify and
Speaker 2: that he was not you know, he signed, but he
Speaker 2: will not be a part of the team. And I
Speaker 2: remember Lachlan McClain oh referenced it on his show and
Speaker 2: he mentioned the Cardinal Connect is reporting and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: here we go. And then you know, I felt like
Speaker 2: that that was that was a big deal for me.
Speaker 2: And then also I don't I shouldn't claim that like
Speaker 2: I had I put it out there first, but I
Speaker 2: just remember like not keeping up with who was putting
Speaker 2: what out but I put it out and then people
Speaker 2: started saying, at the card Connect had it first, or
Speaker 2: like hat tip to this person was Wayne Blackshear when
Speaker 2: he was first going to be able to play after
Speaker 2: he injured his shoulder. So anyways, you know, these are
Speaker 2: things that like you know, I remember thinking, okay, wow,
Speaker 2: like that that this I'm doing a good job, I guess.
Speaker 2: But then I saw how caddy it is, how seventh
Speaker 2: grade girl, like some of the people in that industry
Speaker 2: are that. I'm like, I don't, this isn't me, and
Speaker 2: like I don't, Like I never wanted to be the
Speaker 2: guy who had scoop or broke stories. I wanted to
Speaker 2: have fun and be a fan, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so like I never I kind of just shifted away
Speaker 2: from that whole thing after that. But again back to
Speaker 2: Rapaport for him to say they ran into each other
Speaker 2: and it wasn't anything super formal. That is you with
Speaker 2: a full diaper because somebody had something and you're trying
Speaker 2: to like again report it, but different report it to
Speaker 2: say they didn't actually have anything. They were just wrong.
Speaker 2: Here's what happened. Like that's you just not owning not
Speaker 2: even an L. It's not an L. But instead of
Speaker 2: just acknowledging that somebody had something, you put it out
Speaker 2: there and you know, in a different way. So I
Speaker 2: do love the guy for saying, you know, keep my
Speaker 2: name out. If you have something to say to me,
Speaker 2: say to my effing face. And also if you do
Speaker 2: it again, we're gonna have a big effing problem. Which
Speaker 2: also like Rapport, who've always kind of liked to take
Speaker 2: that to the NFL security what.
Speaker 3: A dow right? Like are you?
Speaker 2: I mean again, I guess technically like if you feel
Speaker 2: like you're in danger, you should, but like what a
Speaker 2: narc you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You got this rich soy boy son coming at you
Speaker 4: just get mad and you're just gonna how do you
Speaker 4: even go?
Speaker 3: But the rich boy your son is coming is coming correct?
Speaker 1: Right? That?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's that's true. But like you said, there
Speaker 3: to be scared of him crazy. There's gatekeepers and there's
Speaker 3: someone that who's this guy? Right?
Speaker 4: Like I said, who this guy ever beat? And he's
Speaker 4: getting a story right over me? How do you even
Speaker 4: what is there like an NFL security officer standing there
Speaker 4: that he forms a complaint with or does like he
Speaker 4: calls somebody in the end if I don't know how
Speaker 4: that process goes, but it sounds it sounds very sounds
Speaker 4: very deep.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and I'll tell you what I think.
Speaker 2: I think if to give some level of the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt here to rap Aport, what I would say,
Speaker 2: is you know that that guy's dad is the founder
Speaker 2: of Starbucks, which means he's bookoo billionaire status, And people
Speaker 2: with that kind of money you kind of feel like
Speaker 2: they got power to do anything they want to you
Speaker 2: and probably get away with it.
Speaker 3: I don't mean that they would or should, or even.
Speaker 2: If that's the reality of it, but like, if I
Speaker 2: was fearful, I would be fearful of that, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, there's certain people that like they
Speaker 2: probably have the ability to like you.
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. There's a good example.
Speaker 2: I mean, if Tom Jerche wanted to when he was here,
Speaker 2: he could ruin your life, ruin your career if you
Speaker 2: were in this space, and everybody knew that and operated
Speaker 2: with the understanding that you didn't want to you didn't
Speaker 2: want to be that much on.
Speaker 3: His bad side. Also, the bigcat tweet that I.
Speaker 2: Can't find was something along the lines of, here we go,
Speaker 2: it's a good old fashioned media fight. You know what
Speaker 2: this means, fellas, Let's get prepared, get to your corners,
Speaker 2: get out of your laptops, and fight online.
Speaker 3: Isn't that perfect? The blogger wars.
Speaker 2: I missed those days kind of not really all right,
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, come back on the other side.
Speaker 3: Keep the party going.
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Speaker 3: I'm really not a big JA Cole. Oh dude, I
Speaker 3: was getting ready to tell you.
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Speaker 2: like J Cole because you, I think speak for a
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Speaker 2: he's corny or something. And yes, that's that's to me.
Speaker 2: That's totally like an individual opinion, right, Like, sure, you
Speaker 2: know what I think is corny. Other people might not
Speaker 2: thinks Corney so like, but I know that. I mean,
Speaker 2: clearly he's popular enough to where he's super successful. But
Speaker 2: like when J Cole mixtape J Cole emerged, Yes, I
Speaker 2: mean he was.
Speaker 3: He was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: He was like when I remember discovering him, not like me,
Speaker 2: but like, well I did. But when I when I
Speaker 2: found out who he was, not like I made him
Speaker 2: famous or anything. I think. I think everybody know what
Speaker 2: I meant, but the way it came out, I'm like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, I don't want to want to want
Speaker 2: to want to make people. I don't want to give
Speaker 2: anybody the chance to say that I'm acting like I
Speaker 2: had anything to do with this guy becoming a really
Speaker 2: really big deal. But like the wounded him the warm
Speaker 2: up in two thousand and nine, Yes, I mean, I
Speaker 2: feel like he was, in my opinion, a guy that
Speaker 2: was on the trajectory to be like legendary hip hop status.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, he did, in fact get the he
Speaker 2: got his first co sign that made him a big
Speaker 2: deal from jay Z, so like I you know, and
Speaker 2: he had a lot of really really good work like
Speaker 2: even so like from two thousand and nine to like
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, like I felt like he was my favorite
Speaker 2: artist at the time who was putting out new work. Now,
Speaker 2: he got a little in high school, he got a
Speaker 2: little too artsy for me in a while, you know,
Speaker 2: like the production and all that. But you know, like
Speaker 2: I think he's super talented. And then at some point
Speaker 2: I remember kind of being you know, checked out on
Speaker 2: what's new and what not in hip hop and then
Speaker 2: I realized, like, okay, well, like everybody thinks he's corny,
Speaker 2: and like.
Speaker 3: He's is he relevant anymore? Like does he still make music?
Speaker 4: Not really, he's just he's he's I would, I would
Speaker 4: agree with your sentiment. I loved him, like I said,
Speaker 4: the warm up the Friday Night Lights mixtape, like he was.
Speaker 3: He was fireback then.
Speaker 4: It was very influential to me when I was in
Speaker 4: high school, and I love some of his beats. A
Speaker 4: blow up was always great, and I even born center.
Speaker 4: What this one's from was a pretty good bord Center
Speaker 4: was good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then after that, you're right, it became artsy, it
Speaker 4: became till's dry was not good. Yeah, where he's sitting
Speaker 4: on the house like I never and then he had
Speaker 4: the he had the thing where he was wasn't he
Speaker 4: playing for like not d League, but like playing overseas basketball?
Speaker 3: And it's weird.
Speaker 4: I did tell you what what made me like him
Speaker 4: is at the height of uh at, at the height
Speaker 4: of hating John Calipari, he says on.
Speaker 3: A uhh yeah, yeah, I remember, he said.
Speaker 4: He says, your old man acts like a blank like
Speaker 4: Tyler Perry. You caught him down in Memphis cheating like
Speaker 4: cal Erry.
Speaker 3: It was like right as soon as Cow got to
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, so he had a like he'll his projects late.
Speaker 2: Just really, you know, I thought Forrest Hill's drive was
Speaker 2: was was okay, but it was when it started to
Speaker 2: go in that direction where just wasn't quite my taste
Speaker 2: and then for your Eyes Only was weight like it
Speaker 2: just it was almost like a all right, like he
Speaker 2: tried to mix both like being his old self but
Speaker 2: also like yeah, we having way too much like DJ
Speaker 2: Khalid involved and all that, and it was just I
Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah he was.
Speaker 4: He did the weird thing where he got involved with
Speaker 4: the Drake and Kendrick beef and then just like backed
Speaker 4: out and then like that made him look a little
Speaker 4: bit corny or two. But I don't know, the weird
Speaker 4: the weird clothing. He tried to go like a Kanye
Speaker 4: West route, looking like a two indie rapper and like
Speaker 4: the uh, it's I don't know it just.
Speaker 2: You do you remember the song Grew Up Fast that
Speaker 2: he did in twenty twelve. It was on the Friday
Speaker 2: Night Lights album. Well let Me See I feel like
Speaker 2: this is one of those songs that became bigger after
Speaker 2: like it was already out for a little while, but
Speaker 2: you can't play it on the air, and I don't
Speaker 2: think if they even edited it would sound because but
Speaker 2: but like that, to me, listen, listen to grow up
Speaker 2: fast during the break, or at least reference it to
Speaker 2: Seef you remember it, because to me that that is
Speaker 2: like the best example of like when he's good, I
Speaker 2: thought he was legendary and then you know, just honestly
Speaker 2: what it comes down to, and this is really a
Speaker 2: lot of things in entertainment, whether you're a musician, whether
Speaker 2: you're a actor, Like in a way, actor is probably
Speaker 2: not the best way because you're playing different roles when
Speaker 2: you're on different jobs. But like he didn't have a
Speaker 2: lot of charisma, you know what I mean? Yeah, like
Speaker 2: his music at Tom spoke for itself, but really that's
Speaker 2: all it was. Like he just didn't really command a
Speaker 2: lot of Like he didn't have a lot, he didn't
Speaker 2: command a lot of good way to put it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like wrestlers, like if you don't have that that factor
Speaker 2: like where you were captivating in one way or the other, charisma,
Speaker 2: you know, charismatic, like especially if you're going to be
Speaker 2: somebody that people like like that. That's a huge part
Speaker 2: of it. And I think, look, music's great, none that
Speaker 2: really mad. But I think in hip hop, especially the
Speaker 2: more everything became online where you're visible all the time,
Speaker 2: like everybody knows what you look like, your appearents, like,
Speaker 2: you know, you need to be you need to be
Speaker 2: active and appealing in that in that space, so you'll
Speaker 2: get easily forgotten.
Speaker 3: And left behind.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've always been a big J Cole fan,
Speaker 2: especially early on, and then I kind of like, honestly,
Speaker 2: I forget about him now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Man.
Speaker 2: He had that that that the music you mentioned probably
Speaker 2: when you were in high school, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: or right after high school.
Speaker 3: That was when I was like, he was all I
Speaker 3: listened to in the gym. Yeah, oh it was baller music.
Speaker 2: It was motivation, like yeah, baller like it was, and
Speaker 2: it was you know, it was it was somewhat of
Speaker 2: a I don't know, like it wasn't ninety nine percent
Speaker 2: context about things that like I would clearly know nothing
Speaker 2: about and not relate to.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a lot of great hip hop that
Speaker 2: a lot of us listen to over the years, rap
Speaker 2: that like we know they're talking about stuff that is
Speaker 2: in like, heck, I listened to I mean I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of like, like what is it Yogotti? Like
Speaker 2: I would listen to Yogati and and and start for
Speaker 2: a second thinking I'm a different person now, like I
Speaker 2: might actually hit the street, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, there's there's clearly you could appreciate the art
Speaker 2: form of music if the substance and the content that
Speaker 2: they're speaking of is clearly not you know, not your life.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I lived on a Yeah, shout
Speaker 4: out to Jaco. Yeah, I'll get Jake holes flowers. But
Speaker 4: that was me, dude. I grew up on a military
Speaker 4: base in Tucson, Arizona, the most the most protected lifestyle
Speaker 4: you can think of. You leave your wallet somewhere, someone
Speaker 4: will return it with money in it, probably, but I would.
Speaker 4: I was listening to three six Mafia and like Project
Speaker 4: Pat riding on the bus leaving base acting like that
Speaker 4: I was tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, whenever you're young, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: When you're young like that, you don't really know who
Speaker 2: you are, so you're kind of trying to find yourself.
Speaker 3: So whenever you just you get.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many people listening now or how many
Speaker 2: people do you know that in a certain era of
Speaker 2: their life they were like four different people, not necessarily
Speaker 2: as human beings, but like they were trying to find themselves, right,
Speaker 2: Like that's just part of being a young person in
Speaker 2: your teens and even in your early adult years.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I think a lot of me.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's not something people like can like think
Speaker 2: about often. But if you give it some thought, I
Speaker 2: bet you know there's a stretch where you're kind of
Speaker 2: just trying to find yourself and then you know, life
Speaker 2: goes on, you find your niche, and then you wake
Speaker 2: up and you're thirty seven with two kids, and like,
Speaker 2: you don't really like that's life now. It's taking care
Speaker 2: of two humans that you you know you love unconditionally,
Speaker 2: and you don't really know what unconditional love means until
Speaker 2: you have children. So this is the Doctor Phil Show
Speaker 2: today on Coffee and Company.
Speaker 4: But if you need to fall back into what it's
Speaker 4: like to be in the trap and slaying them, slaying
Speaker 4: that dope, you can always listen to some music and kind.
Speaker 3: Of feel feel that way. Yeah, it's like an escape.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. Yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 4: You can go be uh Andre three thousand for a
Speaker 4: few minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot about it.
Speaker 2: Out Cast super legendary, certainly well respected, never really caught on,
Speaker 2: never really caught the wave, Andred three thousand bucks self
Speaker 2: with bars is just one of the best things you'll
Speaker 2: ever hear. But like Outcast, like I'm sorry, Miss Jackson
Speaker 2: was great. Like again, I didn't dislike. I'll put it
Speaker 2: this way, They're like the Ora Clark to me, right,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're not good, but I just you know,
Speaker 2: I never really caught and this is a this is
Speaker 2: a disorder that I have, and this is this is gosh.
Speaker 2: I guess music and really a lot of things in life.
Speaker 2: I guess if I can't match the majority of the
Speaker 2: fans and their obsession and love, then I just kind
Speaker 2: of feel left out.
Speaker 3: Therefore, I kind of don't gravitate towards it.
Speaker 2: Let me get an example the same way as I like,
Speaker 2: let me give an example like Zach Bryan.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I think he's he's good, but I can't I can't
Speaker 2: relate or get to the cult following of it to
Speaker 2: where like I'm just kind of I feel unwelcome, Like
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't belong because same, I think
Speaker 2: the dude's fine, and there's a lot of artists that
Speaker 2: are like that with me, like that, I that I
Speaker 2: it's also well, I was gonna say it's kind of
Speaker 2: like that with bourbon, but I would be a liar
Speaker 2: even to say that I like bourbon. I don't dislike it,
Speaker 2: but because I can't like do a tasting and tell you, oh,
Speaker 2: this one's definitely eight barrel and this one yeah they
Speaker 2: they this was they put this yeah yeah, yeah, Like
Speaker 2: I just you know, I feel like I feel left out.
Speaker 2: This is all right real quick before we get to
Speaker 2: our next break. NFL Draft combine going on right now
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. The four Louisville players there, Tyler Shuck, Ashton Jealotti,
Speaker 2: Yah yah, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, he's already the NFL
Speaker 2: Ashton Jealotti, Quincy Riley, and.
Speaker 3: Who's the fourth? Why can I not think of it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Uh? The receiver who transferred from Alabama, what is his name, Brooks?
Speaker 3: Yes to Corey Brooks.
Speaker 2: So I think all those guys are going to get
Speaker 2: drafted obviously. Tyler Shuck though has been the biggest talking
Speaker 2: point in the love fest continues. I mean, you've got
Speaker 2: lou Ridick, even mcshae, now who who are in the
Speaker 2: or in the film room talking about how that they
Speaker 2: don't there's three better quarterbacks than Tyler Shuck in this draft.
Speaker 2: So he's at the combine today, he's gonna throw. He
Speaker 2: got a little love because he went on Twitter and
Speaker 2: just like wanted people to somebody was praising him. It
Speaker 2: might have been Riddick who was praising him like last
Speaker 2: week or the week before and said something about I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if we're going to get see him throw
Speaker 2: out the combine, but I'm telling you guys, go watch him,
Speaker 2: look at his arm something along those lines, and Shuck
Speaker 2: just like he didn't even tweet at Tyler Shuck, but
Speaker 2: Shuck saw the tweets, shared it and said I'm going
Speaker 2: ready to compete doing everything, like basically saying I got
Speaker 2: nothing to hide, let's ball out. So I really hope
Speaker 2: that this turns into like one of the storylines of
Speaker 2: the NFL to where or the NFL drafters should say
Speaker 2: or this shuck kit from Louisville, like here we go.
Speaker 2: There's a lot to like and he really only by
Speaker 2: the way, he really only has one year of film
Speaker 2: that you can look at and you know, get a
Speaker 2: feel for what he would do in the NFL, because
Speaker 2: he never was healthy in any of his other stops.
Speaker 2: And also he wasn't utilized in a way like he
Speaker 2: would in the NFL, and he wasn't the way Jeff
Speaker 2: Brom utilized him he at Louisville. So I haven't heard
Speaker 2: a whole lot of feedback just yet, but I think
Speaker 2: all those guys will get drafted, and if I had
Speaker 2: to tell you the order in which they'll go, I
Speaker 2: think it'll be. I still think Gilatt's got a chance
Speaker 2: to go top three rounds, just because I don't know
Speaker 2: what there's not to like about him. And yeah, at
Speaker 2: times it would feel like he was not necessarily as active.
Speaker 2: Like I don't feel like there were bad games for him,
Speaker 2: but there were games where he just simply didn't have
Speaker 2: a whole lot of involvement. But I feel like for
Speaker 2: two straight years this guy was double and triple teamed.
Speaker 2: So I think he could show out in the NFL
Speaker 2: to where maybe he would have, you know, like, I
Speaker 2: think they're going to see what the guy can do
Speaker 2: and by the way, his numbers are great. He's an
Speaker 2: All American caliber player was for two years, so it's
Speaker 2: not like he didn't show.
Speaker 3: It in college.
Speaker 2: But I think you look at his resume and I
Speaker 2: think the things they really look for and a guy
Speaker 2: like him at the NFL draft combine, I feel like
Speaker 2: he's still got a chance to be taken pretty high.
Speaker 2: And then after that, I kind of feel like it'll
Speaker 2: be shock and then from there, I think Riley and Brooks,
Speaker 2: it's anybody's guess which goes first. Although Riley has been
Speaker 2: looked at and viewed as a guy who who you know,
Speaker 2: has been talked about as an NFL prospect for a while. However,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to say he had a
Speaker 2: bad year. He didn't, but it's hard to know. Like
Speaker 2: his draft buzz is kind of in a roller coaster.
Speaker 2: So he'll be drafted, I believe, but I don't really
Speaker 2: have a clue if it's going to be maybe fourth round,
Speaker 2: closer to sixth.
Speaker 3: And then the same thing for Jacorey Brooks.
Speaker 2: You know, he's a really good receiver, really talented guy,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of guys like.
Speaker 3: Him out there.
Speaker 2: Not to say you know he's he's average, but you know,
Speaker 2: I think every year in the draft you're going to
Speaker 2: see some receivers that are going to be guys taken
Speaker 2: in the first second round.
Speaker 3: He's not that.
Speaker 2: But from then on it's really a team really valuing
Speaker 2: what you can do and knowing that, Hey, we know
Speaker 2: we need a young receiver here, and you know this is.
Speaker 3: The guy we like.
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Speaker 2: So so last night Kentucky got another quad one win,
Speaker 2: and I really believe that when it comes to their resume,
Speaker 2: I don't know if they can do anything that would
Speaker 2: keep them from getting anything worse than a four SEA.
Speaker 3: I mean, even if they lose to LSU.
Speaker 2: At home, like that would be a bad loss for
Speaker 2: them all things considered, but like it would be a
Speaker 2: bad loss for them, not really a you know. So
Speaker 2: here's the thing, LSU, Yeah, I don't mind that the
Speaker 2: game's in Like sn I was gonna say, so, LSU
Speaker 2: is not in the top seventy five. If they were
Speaker 2: in the top thirty and it was a Kentucky home game,
Speaker 2: it would be a quad one. So like, yeah, that'd
Speaker 2: be a bad loss, But a loss to Auburn at
Speaker 2: home this weekend not a bad loss at all.
Speaker 3: Help.
Speaker 2: If they play well, they'll go up in the rank
Speaker 2: in the metrics, and Missouri is on the road. That's
Speaker 2: their finale, and Missouri is a top fifteen caliber team
Speaker 2: right now. So you lose that one, but it's close,
Speaker 2: it's probably not going to do anything. Like I don't
Speaker 2: think that they can get anything worse than a four
Speaker 2: C because there's no opportunities for bad losses other than LSU,
Speaker 2: and I just don't think they're gonna do that. But
Speaker 2: even if they did, that would give them their only
Speaker 2: bad loss of the season because right now, I mean,
Speaker 2: last I checked, everybody that has that has beat Kentucky
Speaker 2: is gonna be in the tournament other than maybe. I mean,
Speaker 2: Vandy got a huge win last night, certainly put themselves
Speaker 2: more firmly in. Georgia beat Florida the other night. I
Speaker 2: guess they're still considered a bubble team, but they're probably
Speaker 2: gonna get in. And then Ohio State, I don't know,
Speaker 2: like they're not having a great season, but like if
Speaker 2: you're in the big ten of the SEC, you can
Speaker 2: have a losing record in your league and still be
Speaker 2: on the bubble.
Speaker 3: That's that's just the way it is. Are you now?
Speaker 3: I gotta look it up, Like I feel like Ohio
Speaker 3: State is.
Speaker 2: In, but I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe they're
Speaker 2: not in and we don't know until selection Sunday, But yeah,
Speaker 2: according to according to the bracket that was put out
Speaker 2: earlier in the week by H.
Speaker 3: Jerry Palm.
Speaker 2: Unless I'm just blind, it doesn't look like doesn't look
Speaker 2: like they're here. So if you look at yeah, let's see,
Speaker 2: let's see now, now I'm just this is great radio here.
Speaker 3: Just look. Yeah. So they're not currently in. But still
Speaker 3: that's that's not a terrible loss.
Speaker 2: I mean, you lost by twenty it was a neutral site,
Speaker 2: but I mean that that's not They have way more
Speaker 2: valuable wins to where it would really put a dit
Speaker 2: in the resume to where they would fall I and
Speaker 2: they're probably going to be getting I don't know how
Speaker 2: the SEC will finish up because there's heck, there's three
Speaker 2: more games left for most teams, and even the teams
Speaker 2: with you know, some of the great teams are probably
Speaker 2: gonna play each other befortsall said and done, Like right
Speaker 2: now in SEC standings, Auburn's in first place by themselves,
Speaker 2: and it's not close. There's sixteen and they're fourteen and one,
Speaker 2: and Alabama's twelve and three, and then Florida's eleven and four,
Speaker 2: and then Tennessee and Missouri are twelve and six. Texas
Speaker 2: A and M in Kentucky are ten and eight, So
Speaker 2: I mean, if you d and I don't even know
Speaker 2: how the bracket plays out in the SEC, but they'll
Speaker 2: likely get at least one by, probably not going to
Speaker 2: get a double by. In fact, I don't think that's
Speaker 2: even possible now with the way the league is currently looking.
Speaker 2: So even if they were to lose early in Nashville,
Speaker 2: which that's got to be where the.
Speaker 3: SEC tournament is, right, it always is, So if they
Speaker 3: lose early there.
Speaker 2: And they lost to Auburn, like if they lose to
Speaker 2: Auburn Missouri, which honestly some would say that's probably likely,
Speaker 2: and then they lose their first game in the SEC Tournament,
Speaker 2: but it's against a team like Texas A and M
Speaker 2: or Missouri or even like Ole miss that's still not
Speaker 2: going to be a DT in their resume. So I
Speaker 2: really believe the only scenario that they could fall anything
Speaker 2: further than a four would be if they lose out
Speaker 2: and of course one of those losses is a home
Speaker 2: lost LSU.
Speaker 3: Which is not going to happen. So yeah, they got
Speaker 3: a lot of losses there. I mean for them, they do.
Speaker 2: They're nineteen and nine, one game above five hundred now
Speaker 2: after beating Oklahoma last night. So you know, on the
Speaker 2: overall record doesn't look great, but man, they have valuable
Speaker 2: wins and obviously they're playing in a great league, and
Speaker 2: when their full strength, I think they've shown they can
Speaker 2: beat just about anybody. But just because you know you
Speaker 2: can do, I mean you will I still being this tournament.
Speaker 2: You know, the season has been great, by the way,
Speaker 2: I don't know people are paying attention. Obviously locally teams
Speaker 2: are pretty happy with their teams around here, but the
Speaker 2: college basketball sport, like this year has been great as
Speaker 2: far as games and really just being really competitive.
Speaker 3: A lot of really good.
Speaker 2: Teams out there, right, So what that's like, what I
Speaker 2: think what that's led to is we're actually really close
Speaker 2: to the end of the season, but yet everybody's so
Speaker 2: caught up in how great the season's going to where
Speaker 2: you haven't really thought about, like, you know, will it
Speaker 2: will it carry over in March? Because I think we're
Speaker 2: gonna have some real surprising results in the tournament this year.
Speaker 2: I believe, I mean, we always do to an extent,
Speaker 2: but I kind of have a feeling it's gonna be wacky.
Speaker 3: All right. Let's take a time out.
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