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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company.

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<v Speaker 2>Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety Holy crap,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who.

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<v Speaker 1>The hell we think when we.

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<v Speaker 2>Are get off our show, idiot, the kids are crying

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<v Speaker 2>or turning off, crying.

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<v Speaker 1>The countries are.

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<v Speaker 3>Screwing it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Play Intermurals, Brother, gold Play Intermurals.

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<v Speaker 1>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>kidding me? Now? Here's nick coffee?

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<v Speaker 4>All right? Ready or not? Here we go. Let's get

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<v Speaker 4>this thing started. When I say ready or not, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean ready or not. We're here. We are in your

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<v Speaker 4>ears right now, I guess we are. I mean we're

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<v Speaker 4>in your ears regardless if how you're listening, if you

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<v Speaker 4>can listen and you hear this right now, we're here.

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<v Speaker 4>We're with you. Maybe we violated you, I hope not,

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<v Speaker 4>but keep us out of enery where you want, but

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<v Speaker 4>not your ears. I mean, if you've got headphones on,

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<v Speaker 4>like you're like AirPods, earbuds, whatever, then I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>we're more directly like we're there, but literally if you're

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<v Speaker 4>just if you're just picking us up in your vehicle,

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe I don't know, maybe you're in a store

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<v Speaker 4>right now and they've got us playing. Maybe you're on

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<v Speaker 4>the assembly line somewhere and they've got Coffee and Company cranked.

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<v Speaker 4>We're we're here like it or not, it's happening, and

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<v Speaker 4>I hope you stick around because we're with you for

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<v Speaker 4>the next three hours. Again it is Coffee and Company

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<v Speaker 4>fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought of somebody putting a brand new car door on

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<v Speaker 3>a Toyota Tundra while we're just going on throughout the warehouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that that excites me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I remember the first time, I think it was

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<v Speaker 4>the GE assembly line back in like twenty seventeen, when

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<v Speaker 4>I was on Middays noon to three, and I remember

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<v Speaker 4>somebody mentioning that they were listening and they've it was

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<v Speaker 4>a it was a group of folks that work together,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was a mixed family essentially. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>call them family because they work together. But Louisville fans

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<v Speaker 4>in Kentucky fans so but but they but but they

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the Kentucky fans at one point stopped complaining

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<v Speaker 4>about what we were listening to. What they were listening

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<v Speaker 4>to and and they just kind of let it, let

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<v Speaker 4>it happen. And I always, you know, I always appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>people sharing how and when they listen, you know, never

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<v Speaker 4>gets sold. It's one of those things where we just

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<v Speaker 4>assume you're listening. We don't actually know. There's no way

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<v Speaker 4>to do a real time. I mean, we can, we

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<v Speaker 4>can determine how many people are streaming, which of course

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<v Speaker 4>that grows really every every week, it seems every day, honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>just because you know, there are people who listen sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>in their vehicle when they're on their way home, and

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<v Speaker 4>then when they get home, maybe they start fixing dinner

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever it is, and they listen. So however you're listening,

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<v Speaker 4>wherever you're listening, we appreciated. But yeah, we're here and

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<v Speaker 4>we're ready to rock and roll. The revival continues and

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<v Speaker 4>it feels absolutely amazing. And I know you guys have

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<v Speaker 4>been asking the question to yourself. I've been asking the

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<v Speaker 4>same question to myself, and I've got my answer for you,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's this, Yes, this team really is that good.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not predicting a final four right now. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>predicting a national championship, but you know, wake Forest had

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<v Speaker 4>won eight of nine games. They just competed really well

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<v Speaker 4>against Duke and sure enough Louisville last night. The way

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<v Speaker 4>it played out, and I'll lay it out for you

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<v Speaker 4>as far as my explanation on this, but the way

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<v Speaker 4>things played out from start to finish, I guess maybe not.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the finish wasn't great. They didn't score a

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<v Speaker 4>bucket in the last five six minutes, and I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of had to resist just mowing people down

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<v Speaker 4>who were complaining about that, because I just think anybody

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<v Speaker 4>complaining about Louisvill basketball right now needs to go lay

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<v Speaker 4>down or maybe go play in traffic. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the urge to do that is strong, just because of

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<v Speaker 4>how much I love this team. But I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, maybe because I lived through it every day

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<v Speaker 4>talking about it for three hours during the previous regime,

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<v Speaker 4>that maybe I have a better ability to really just

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate where we are. But I'm sure everybody's different. So

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<v Speaker 4>you are thinking, hey, we don't need to just be

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we don't need to just be beating teams.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to pummel them till the end. And I

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<v Speaker 4>guess you're not crazy for thinking that because you have

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<v Speaker 4>high expectations for Louisville basketball, and you should, but just really,

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<v Speaker 4>any negativity right now, I'm having a tough time with

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<v Speaker 4>I talked about it last week. I feel like this

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<v Speaker 4>will be the sign that sticks with me for years

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<v Speaker 4>to come. If Pat Kelsey is here long term, he

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<v Speaker 4>wins at a really high level. I think I'll remember

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<v Speaker 4>sitting in the gym parking lot before I went in,

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<v Speaker 4>and yes, I know you could tell I do lift weights,

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<v Speaker 4>not as much as I used to, but but I

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<v Speaker 4>do try to stay in shape. So I'm sitting in

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<v Speaker 4>the parking lot about to walk in, and I just

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't walk in until I wrote a long comment on

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<v Speaker 4>a Facebook group about face. Yeah no, this was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>This was last week. I'm resetting that story. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>paying attention. So last week, you know, I just I

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<v Speaker 4>remember walking out of the gym afterwards, thinking that I

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<v Speaker 4>just do that, like what has gotten over me? And

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<v Speaker 4>it's because the Revival's happening and I'm so excited about

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<v Speaker 4>where we are that when I see people complaining about

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it was a fan who again I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know this person, but complaining that Louisville fans were excited

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<v Speaker 4>that Louisville was ranked, and it just triggered me in

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<v Speaker 4>a way that I'm like, the hell's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 4>We should be happy that we're ranked. It's crazy that

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<v Speaker 4>we're ranked for the first time in a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>and it took Pat less than twenty games to get

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<v Speaker 4>us there, considering that he had to kind of start

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<v Speaker 4>from scratch. So you know, those are little things that

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<v Speaker 4>stick with me. But again, I think we are I

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<v Speaker 4>think this team is really really good. And what I

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<v Speaker 4>mean by how it all played out at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the game, yeah, I mean they they took their

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<v Speaker 4>foot off the gas. I think it reminded me a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of the Indiana game where Indiana was down

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<v Speaker 4>like thirty plus and they ended up going on a

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<v Speaker 4>crazy like thirteen to one run and like the last

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<v Speaker 4>two menus or something like that. I'm sure that's not

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<v Speaker 4>the right number, but they did that just to only

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<v Speaker 4>lose by twenty five to Louisville. And it's not a

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<v Speaker 4>good visual, but like, you still, you still kicked ass.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just think it'd be foolish in my opinion

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<v Speaker 4>the very end of the game when Wake Forest was

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<v Speaker 4>already done, Steve Forbes, his best player, gets ejected. He

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<v Speaker 4>played a guy. And by the way, nobody called Steve

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<v Speaker 4>Forbes out for this him sending one of his starters

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<v Speaker 4>sore loser things you'll see that, like some for some reason,

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<v Speaker 4>nobody even acknowledged, like, yes, he did play after dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with some sickness. Hildreth is his name. He had the flu.

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<v Speaker 4>But like Forest was getting his ass kicked down by

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<v Speaker 4>twenty nine points, and instead of just you know, taking

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<v Speaker 4>his player out and sitting him, he sends him to

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<v Speaker 4>the locker room. That's sore loser type of stuff. And

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<v Speaker 4>Wake did a lot of sore loser, weak mentally type

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff last night. And it's just nice to be

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<v Speaker 4>on the right end of that kind of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just think it's human, Nate. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>these guys, the game was over, and you don't really

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<v Speaker 4>have a team where you can, I mean, you don't

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<v Speaker 4>really have a you don't really have a team that

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<v Speaker 4>you can just all right, let's play our freshman who's

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<v Speaker 4>really trying to earn minutes. There's one freshman on this team,

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<v Speaker 4>and he has to play major minutes. So you're either

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<v Speaker 4>going to put the walk Ons in or keep your

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<v Speaker 4>guys out there and just kind of let them ride

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<v Speaker 4>out the clock. And that's what happened, because had you

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<v Speaker 4>put the walk Ons in, no offense to these guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Wake Forest knows, hey, we actually maybe they don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>because what I predicted would happened happened. Louisville beat a

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<v Speaker 4>good team. I believe Wake's got good talent. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>kidding you. Of all the teams from the ACC that

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<v Speaker 4>have come in to the UMP Center, as much as

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville made them look bad at times, They've got good players.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they do, and yet they seem to not

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, wait, should not be a team that you

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<v Speaker 4>beat by double digits at home that's fifteen and five

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<v Speaker 4>with no bad losses still to this day, and a

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<v Speaker 4>better win than Louisville has. They're winning against Michigan is

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<v Speaker 4>better than any win Louisville has. And Louisville fell in

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<v Speaker 4>the net rankings all because of wake Forest's incompetence, Steve

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<v Speaker 4>Forbes in competence to schedule the way that they schedule.

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<v Speaker 4>So had you put I was gonna say, had you

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<v Speaker 4>put the walk Ons in, you wouldn't have lost the game,

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<v Speaker 4>but it would have been even probably closer, because they

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<v Speaker 4>were still gonna try to trim that deficit as best

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<v Speaker 4>they can. And I'm thinking, if you know how this works, right,

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<v Speaker 4>if you know to keep your guys locked in until

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<v Speaker 4>the very end because you want to, because you understand

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<v Speaker 4>that a thirty point loss is much different than a

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<v Speaker 4>ten point loss when it comes to the metrics, then

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<v Speaker 4>why did you schedule five of the worst teams in

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<v Speaker 4>the country. So I probably shouldn't have given as much

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<v Speaker 4>attention as I just did to the end of the game,

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm triggered. I'm defending this team at all costs

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<v Speaker 4>because I love them that much. It's just been that

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<v Speaker 4>much fun watching things come together. They've now got their

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<v Speaker 4>tenth straight win. They're sitting at nine and one in

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<v Speaker 4>the ACC and last night, I'll start with this, and

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<v Speaker 4>I know you were a part of this, Austin, you

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<v Speaker 4>and Kirk and the crew. Yeah, the Young Sinner looked

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<v Speaker 4>better on television than it has in a really, really

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<v Speaker 4>long time. The atmosphere was something that you just couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>ignore if you're watching it or you know, the broadcasters,

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<v Speaker 4>and they did a good job of really plugging it

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<v Speaker 4>and mentioning, man, this place, this is what, this is

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<v Speaker 4>what Louisville basketball is all about. And we'll get to

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<v Speaker 4>that trio. Last night because I actually found myself pretty

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<v Speaker 4>entertained by Jim Beaheim in a weird way, and because

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<v Speaker 4>Louisville got up twenty nine early in the second half,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it seemed like Corey, Alexander and Bayheim kind

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<v Speaker 4>of turned it into their own boring talk show, and

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<v Speaker 4>then West Durham had to kind of remind them, like, hey, fellas,

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<v Speaker 4>we got some action going on here. That's a very

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<v Speaker 4>bad West Durham impression. But I was spot on. Yeah. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 4>last night was great and at the beginning of the game,

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<v Speaker 4>shots were falling right wake Forest came ready to play.

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<v Speaker 4>Like wake Forest I thought did a pretty good job

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<v Speaker 4>of coming out. They didn't leave rain Smith. Nothing was

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<v Speaker 4>easy for Louisville, and yet Louisville just stuck with all. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Last night was a reminder, and I've said this, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>pretty sure every day we've talked about louis of basketball

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<v Speaker 4>in the last three months, which you know, has been

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<v Speaker 4>and last night they got off to a slower start

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<v Speaker 4>than you would expect, just you know, not really blitzing

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<v Speaker 4>just expected this thing got ugly early, and it really didn't,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Louisville. Again, I feel like I'm not even

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<v Speaker 4>like a slow start, but I mean it was. It

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<v Speaker 4>just stayed with their game plan as far as defense.

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<v Speaker 4>Shots weren't falling, but they never stopped taking good shots.

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<v Speaker 4>They never lose confidence when shots don't fall. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>Terrence Edwards, the way things played out for him last

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<v Speaker 4>and his teammates have in him, because him staying aggressive

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<v Speaker 4>offensively is always going to be a good recipe. And

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<v Speaker 4>he's had games where he ends up getting you twelve points,

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<v Speaker 4>but it came from you know, three of thirteen from

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<v Speaker 4>he got off to a pretty poor start. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what his percentage was towards the back half of

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<v Speaker 4>the fifteen shots he took, but he legend scoring with

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<v Speaker 4>And you know it just these guys, they don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>They just play. And that sounds like I'm insulting them

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<v Speaker 4>saying they don't think. I mean, I think they're pretty savvy,

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<v Speaker 4>they're pretty smart, but man, they are so even keeled,

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<v Speaker 4>never too high, never too low. And they win last

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<v Speaker 4>night seventy two to fifty nine. And the numbers, the

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<v Speaker 4>box score itself, and you know, turnovers, rebounds, second chance points,

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<v Speaker 4>all the numbers that do have value. I think they're

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely skewed because of the way the game ended last night.

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<v Speaker 4>But also even if I'm thinking that, because it's wishful

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<v Speaker 4>thinking on my end, I don't care, because they're so

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<v Speaker 4>consistent now defensively and as far as just coming ready

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<v Speaker 4>to play, being the physical aggressor and never again getting

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<v Speaker 4>too high or too low. That that that that alone,

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<v Speaker 4>So the question again that I know many of you

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<v Speaker 4>listening have been asking, are they like really good, Like

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<v Speaker 4>expect to have real you know, late tournament run, Like

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<v Speaker 4>should I expect this team to be a second weekend team?

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<v Speaker 4>And look, you could expect whatever you want, because I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of they have a premeditated expectation on certain things

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<v Speaker 4>because they know how to better deal with it. And

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean by that is a lot of folks,

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<v Speaker 4>myself included. I don't do it as much in sports,

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<v Speaker 4>but a lot of things in life. Hey, I hope

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<v Speaker 4>I expect the worst, hope of the best, and that

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<v Speaker 4>that that's been a pretty good mindset for me to have,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's it's worked for me. And again, everybody's different.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm just telling you, I don't think that if

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<v Speaker 4>think this team is good enough. Defensively, they're smart enough

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<v Speaker 4>as a team, They clearly have a defined identity and

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<v Speaker 4>they have established roles within their personnel that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe we do get to the second game, second round,

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<v Speaker 4>round of thirty two, and maybe at that point we

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<v Speaker 4>get humbled and we realize, man, the acc really didn't

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<v Speaker 4>prepare us. But I mean, again, what do I know.

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<v Speaker 4>None of us know. We'll find out when we get there.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just think i'd be lying to myself if

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<v Speaker 4>I acted like this team wasn't just playing really good basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean there's all kinds of different stats you

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<v Speaker 4>can throw out there that I think, Yes, some can say, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>it's because you're playing in the ACC, and I never

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<v Speaker 4>want to ignore that, but I'm I mean, Jackie Hepburn's

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<v Speaker 4>been a really good player in college basketball for three

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<v Speaker 4>years before he got here. In the Big Ten, which

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<v Speaker 4>is last I checked, has been viewed as a better

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<v Speaker 4>league than the ACC for for a little while now, right,

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<v Speaker 4>like Javon Hadley, there's a reason we're seeing him and

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't even have a good game last night, but

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<v Speaker 4>clearly he's been great, really in the last six weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's been good all year. But once Case and

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<v Speaker 4>Pryor went down, obviously they were going to start leaning

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<v Speaker 4>on him a little bit more and expecting more out

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<v Speaker 4>of him. And you realize, yeah, Colorado for two seasons

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<v Speaker 4>he was a good player for them, And you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe the reason you didn't hear a whole lot about

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<v Speaker 4>him last year is because he played with three guys

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<v Speaker 4>that got drafted. I don't know, that doesn't necessarily make

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<v Speaker 4>Javon a great player. That doesn't really have anything to

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<v Speaker 4>do with his ability, but you know, these guys are

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<v Speaker 4>good players, and Pat Kelsey's done a phenomenal job at

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<v Speaker 4>really working with what he has. And you know, when

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<v Speaker 4>I go back to where I feel like the flip switch.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys have heard me talk about it for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>The North Carolina game, something was different defensively and in

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<v Speaker 4>the half court. Maybe one day he'll really elaborate. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't need to. Maybe it wasn't some real formulated

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<v Speaker 4>plan that they had to to, you know, really invest

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<v Speaker 4>in and make it a priority. But they are different

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<v Speaker 4>now in the half court. I noticed it last night

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<v Speaker 4>and it hit me this morning when I when I

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<v Speaker 4>I'm checking social media, which I do every morning, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's a couple of really nerdy Twitter accounts that that

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<v Speaker 4>that put up thirty forty second clips showing a half

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<v Speaker 4>court set that college basketball teams will run. And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a nerd for that stuff, Like I just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's not interesting. Certainly wouldn't be a good

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<v Speaker 4>radio topic, so I'm not going to break it down.

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<v Speaker 4>But this account that I follow, you know, they're doing

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<v Speaker 4>half court sets that are phenomenal that that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with your versatility, you can do a lot of creative

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<v Speaker 4>things right like you can you can do something to

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<v Speaker 4>where your your opponent is worried that you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>run some kind of action that's got four options for

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<v Speaker 4>rain Smith to pop out and bury one on you.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what they weren't doing that, They were

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<v Speaker 4>making you think that. Then they throw it to the

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<v Speaker 4>rim for a guy named James Scott who's pretty effective

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<v Speaker 4>around the rim. Like they're they're really good in the

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<v Speaker 4>half court offensively, and it's not just because the design sets.

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<v Speaker 4>It's because of their spacing, their understanding ending of movement,

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<v Speaker 4>and really their versatility. I mean, they've got they've got

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of guys who are mismatched problems, not because

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<v Speaker 4>they just have ability and talent that other teams can't

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<v Speaker 4>account for. But like, who do you put on Javon Hadley? Again,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying who do you put on him? Because

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<v Speaker 4>he's Lebron James, but do you want to go big

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<v Speaker 4>where he'll go around you and get fouled, or do

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<v Speaker 4>you want to go small where he'll he'll he'll back

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<v Speaker 4>you in and score on you. So I mean, Pat

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<v Speaker 4>Kelsey's staff, everybody involved deserves a lot of credit. But

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<v Speaker 4>last night and really this morning, more so than anything,

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<v Speaker 4>I was just thinking, you know what they are different now,

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<v Speaker 4>Like when they played some of these teams and they lost.

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<v Speaker 4>Who knows, maybe if they played them tomorrow this weekend,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe they lose again. I don't know, We'll never know.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's really not important right now, because again, why

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<v Speaker 4>waste your energy and your time about with hypothetical that

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<v Speaker 4>will never have the answer to. It'd be a waste

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<v Speaker 4>of time. But they did in fact when things weren't

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<v Speaker 4>going great. And I do want to share some quotes

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<v Speaker 4>just highlights the run that louisvill was is on right now.

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<v Speaker 4>An eleventh consecutive win that could come on Saturday, should

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<v Speaker 4>come on Saturday, will be the longest, will tie the

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<v Speaker 4>longest winning streak the program's ever had in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, that's pretty special. So they they did

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<v Speaker 4>something and I'm just maybe I'm I'm I'm prying into

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<v Speaker 4>things that aren't my business, but they they at some

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<v Speaker 4>point I wouldn't even call it that, but maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 4>that is the right way to describe it, because it's

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<v Speaker 4>not like, I mean, they're still shooting a lot of threes.

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<v Speaker 4>We know that, Like I think they maintained their identity,

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<v Speaker 4>but they kind of found this new version of themselves

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<v Speaker 4>with the personnel that they have in every single game,

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<v Speaker 4>they are getting more and more confident in their established

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<v Speaker 4>roles and they know that, hey, I don't need it

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<v Speaker 4>to every night come out here and score twenty five,

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<v Speaker 4>because if I don't have it going, somebody else probably

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<v Speaker 4>will within within our rotation. And you know the maturity

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<v Speaker 4>of this group to never get too high and never

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<v Speaker 4>gets too loh, there's no jealousy, it seems. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's really been a great mix of guys as far

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<v Speaker 4>as their skill set, what they bring to the table,

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<v Speaker 4>and really just they're buying right. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 4>Pat Kelsey's gonna bring in some really talented players, including

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<v Speaker 4>McDonald's all American that's on his way next year, Mickael

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<v Speaker 4>Brown Junior, who is one of those guys that you

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<v Speaker 4>should only expect to have for a season, and you should.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's going to be given the keys to

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<v Speaker 4>the program essentially as far as running the show as

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<v Speaker 4>your point guard, and that's the way it should be

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<v Speaker 4>when you get a guy like that. I'm sure with

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<v Speaker 4>Kelsey having a year that who knows it might win

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<v Speaker 4>him National Coach of the Year. He's given us some

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<v Speaker 4>good proof of concept here so far, meaning recruits transfers

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<v Speaker 4>really more than anything they now see, Okay, this guy,

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<v Speaker 4>he's got a rolling especially if I can shoot the ball,

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<v Speaker 4>if my calling card is being a good offensive player,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd love to play for that guy. So now that

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<v Speaker 4>he's actually winning at Louisville, that's going to make it

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<v Speaker 4>more attractive. So my point is this, they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>bring in probably guys with more individual talent than some

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<v Speaker 4>of the guys that are playing right now. And that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think there's something about these guys as far

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<v Speaker 4>as like their maturity in their buy in and really

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<v Speaker 4>their hunger. Like I think a lot of guys on

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<v Speaker 4>this team that we're seeing have big nights consistently. Chucky

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<v Speaker 4>Hepburn is the best example. Chuckie Hepburn came here hungry.

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<v Speaker 4>He's one of the best point guards in the country.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's close. We're talking about a guy

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<v Speaker 4>that's averaging sixteen points, just under seven assists per game,

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<v Speaker 4>two and a half steals, nearly four rebounds. Louisville's played

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<v Speaker 4>the fifteenth toughest schedule in college basketball. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's played his best game seemingly when they play the

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<v Speaker 4>best teams. But Chucky also came here as a guy

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<v Speaker 4>who had been pretty good at Wisconsin. He got passed

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<v Speaker 4>up last year, he took a he took a lesser

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<v Speaker 4>role at Wisconsin for a guy named AJ Store who

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<v Speaker 4>transferred to Kansas probably got a much bigger bag than

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<v Speaker 4>Chucky got. And all Chucky's done is come here and

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to prove to people that he is, in fact

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<v Speaker 4>a guy that is one of the better guards in

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<v Speaker 4>the country. And I mean the kid at Wisconsin that's

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<v Speaker 4>now at Kansas aj Store. I mean, because it's not

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<v Speaker 4>relevant to what Chucky's doing here, but I think finding

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<v Speaker 4>guys in the portal that are hungry but also clearly

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<v Speaker 4>have some real ability, I mean, that's gonna be key,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're seeing it right before our eyes. So last

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<v Speaker 4>night was certainly Awesome's talk a lot about that today.

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<v Speaker 4>How about Kentucky. I mean, let's be real, Kentucky keeps

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<v Speaker 4>winning games that they shouldn't win and aren't expected to win.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what that tells you that they're very well coached,

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<v Speaker 4>and they also have a group of mature guys that

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<v Speaker 4>don't get too high or too low. And what does

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<v Speaker 4>that do? It speaks to coaching. I mean, I said

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<v Speaker 4>this on Friday. It was a big part of the show.

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<v Speaker 4>I know Austin wasn't here, but if I'm just being

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<v Speaker 4>honest with you, I think the two best candidates for

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<v Speaker 4>Coach of the Year the way I view what Coach

429
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<v Speaker 4>of the Year is are the two guys in this state,

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Pope and Pat Kelsey. And yes, I'd give the

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<v Speaker 4>nod to Pat Kelsey. And yes, it's probably because there's

432
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<v Speaker 4>some bias on my end. However, I mean Kentucky right

433
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<v Speaker 4>now has a better resume, They have a better team

434
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<v Speaker 4>right now as far as resume, and they beat Louisville

435
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<v Speaker 4>head to head. If that is your reasoning for Coach

436
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<v Speaker 4>of the Year, we're not even We're not talking about

437
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<v Speaker 4>the same award. I think For me, it's and again,

438
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<v Speaker 4>what do I don't have a vote, doesn't matter what

439
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<v Speaker 4>I think, But I think Coach of the Year is

440
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<v Speaker 4>a guy who you can tell his team is having

441
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<v Speaker 4>a lot of success because of his coaching. I think

442
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<v Speaker 4>both can be said about Pope and Kelsey more so

443
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<v Speaker 4>than maybe anybody in college basketball. But it's a silly

444
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<v Speaker 4>award when you think about it, because it's not consistent,

445
00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:38.160
<v Speaker 4>it's selective. Are you going with the guy who's coaching

446
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<v Speaker 4>the best team that you already know is a good

447
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<v Speaker 4>coach or a guy that you feel like, Man, he

448
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<v Speaker 4>did a great job that nobody would have expected because

449
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<v Speaker 4>he's a great coach. But last night they go on

450
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<v Speaker 4>the road they beat Tennessee, a really good Tennessee team.

451
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<v Speaker 4>I know Tennessee's lost what four or five now, they're struggling,

452
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<v Speaker 4>but they're also really good and Mark Pope was able

453
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<v Speaker 4>to bait Tennessee into playing the game that Kentucky wanted to.

454
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<v Speaker 4>Tennessee fired up shots out of their rear end all night.

455
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<v Speaker 4>And the way to beat Kentucky is to not do that,

456
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<v Speaker 4>because you know what, when they do that, they're gonna

457
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<v Speaker 4>beat you. The only team that's beating Kentucky at this

458
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<v Speaker 4>point in a game where it's played with countless possessions

459
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<v Speaker 4>and you know, fire it up whenever you get an

460
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<v Speaker 4>open look is Alabama and Alabama just might happen to

461
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<v Speaker 4>be the best team in the country at doing that

462
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<v Speaker 4>outside of Kentucky. And maybe if they when they play

463
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<v Speaker 4>in Tuscaloosa, maybe the results actually different. So a big

464
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<v Speaker 4>night for both programs, no doubt. We'll certainly talk about

465
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<v Speaker 4>that throughout the show today. Also, we need to talk

466
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<v Speaker 4>about the Senior Bowl, not because you know, anybody really

467
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<v Speaker 4>gives a damn about the actual game itself, but this

468
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<v Speaker 4>is where you start to hear about guys that are

469
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<v Speaker 4>really doing well for themselves when it comes to showing

470
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<v Speaker 4>their ability to the NFL. And Tyler shut getting a

471
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<v Speaker 4>lot of love and who's surprised. I think Louisville fans

472
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<v Speaker 4>kind of realized, Yeah, this guy's pretty good. Don't know

473
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<v Speaker 4>where he's gonna get drafted. He won't be a first

474
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<v Speaker 4>round pick, but man, he's balling out out And something

475
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<v Speaker 4>we haven't talked about yet, and I don't want to

476
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<v Speaker 4>make it a big part of the show, but Liam

477
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<v Speaker 4>Cohen to Jacksonville, like I talked about it on Friday.

478
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<v Speaker 4>Liam Cohen going there in the way everybody acted like

479
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<v Speaker 4>he did something wrong, I thought was hilarious because when

480
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<v Speaker 4>you're an assistant coach and your goal is to be

481
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<v Speaker 4>a head coach, there's no loyalty. You're trying to climb

482
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<v Speaker 4>the freaking ladder, and it doesn't matter if you told

483
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<v Speaker 4>somebody you're sticking around or you want to be here.

484
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<v Speaker 4>That's what you're supposed to say if you have a

485
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<v Speaker 4>chance to better yourself and take a better job, and

486
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<v Speaker 4>people criticize you for doing so, like they're the ones

487
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<v Speaker 4>to be frank or idiots. But now that he's in

488
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<v Speaker 4>Jacksonville and he was introduced, I think he might be

489
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<v Speaker 4>an act. I think he's an AI robot. Is he

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<v Speaker 4>a real human?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Liked the the douvaal thing. We might play the sound, Austin,

493
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<v Speaker 4>but the sound doesn't matter. It's the visual. Yeah, it's

494
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<v Speaker 4>the face that he makes. I mean, you could like

495
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<v Speaker 4>when he did that. I remember one wanting to just

496
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<v Speaker 4>crawl under a table and hide from second hand embarrassment,

497
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<v Speaker 4>but also thinking there's nothing you could tell me about

498
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<v Speaker 4>this human being that I would be shocked by.

499
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<v Speaker 1>Serial killer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I could see it, you know, AI robot. Yeah,

501
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<v Speaker 4>totally believable, which has just fascinated me, which again probably

502
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<v Speaker 4>speaks to my amusement. It's, you know, I gotta, I gotta.

503
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<v Speaker 4>I got a weird sense of humor. But hey, that

504
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<v Speaker 4>lets me have some fun and I guess kind of

505
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<v Speaker 4>never grow up. But let's let's let's get to our

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<v Speaker 4>quick break. A very long first segment, but we'll take

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<v Speaker 4>a time. I'll keep it rolling until six o'clock. It's

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<v Speaker 4>Coffee and Company, Nick Coffee, Austin Montgomery, take you up

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<v Speaker 4>till six o'clock again right here on Sports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 4>oh two six five three zero seven ninety. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to lie to you and tell you something that

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to do that we may not do. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>I do that a lot. It's intentionally just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not great at managing time. But Kentucky's win last night.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody asked this on the text line, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>you may be right. This text says, Nick, do you

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<v Speaker 4>think that Kentucky's win at Tennessee will go down as

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<v Speaker 4>the most valuable win in the regular season for anybody

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<v Speaker 4>in college basketball? And I like the question because you

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<v Speaker 4>got me thinking, and I'm thinking, well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a little premature, but I think to your point

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<v Speaker 4>right now, yes, Now, well it's stay that way. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not sure, but currently you've got Auburn, Houston, Duke, and

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<v Speaker 4>Tennessee as your top four teams in college basketball and

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<v Speaker 4>the net rankings as of today, and that of course

532
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<v Speaker 4>includes last night's results, where Tennessee lost at home. Auburn

533
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<v Speaker 4>hasn't lost at home game, Houston hasn't lost a home game,

534
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<v Speaker 4>Duke hasn't lost a home game. And I don't know

535
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<v Speaker 4>if they're going to the rest of the way. Tennessee

536
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<v Speaker 4>might just because of how good the SEC is and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe somebody has figured out out a way to really

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<v Speaker 4>neutralize this Tennessee team. So yeah, winning at Tennessee. What

539
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<v Speaker 4>it does for Kentucky is that it makes it to

540
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<v Speaker 4>where you don't want to slip up, but I mean

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<v Speaker 4>your resume is I mean, you jumped up four spots

542
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<v Speaker 4>last night, and that's coming off of a loss at

543
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<v Speaker 4>Vandy and a loss to I guess Alabama the Saturday

544
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<v Speaker 4>before that. So I mean, look, Mark Pope is winning

545
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<v Speaker 4>games with a lot of value, and he's winning games

546
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<v Speaker 4>that aren't just helping the resume. It's games that mean

547
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<v Speaker 4>a lot to Kentucky and their fan base, including Duke

548
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<v Speaker 4>in November and Tennessee in Knoxville, when Tennessee is has

549
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<v Speaker 4>been billed as one of the best teams in the

550
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<v Speaker 4>country all season, so you may be right, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And also something else to keep in mind the SEC.

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<v Speaker 4>Are they going to get three number one seeds? I mean,

553
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<v Speaker 4>I doubt it. I think they're gonna beat each other

554
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<v Speaker 4>up enough to where you're gonna see so many SEC teams,

555
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<v Speaker 4>more so on the two and three line. But Auburn's

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen and one wouldn't I mean, I'd say they're maybe

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<v Speaker 4>the best bet right now to get a one seed.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Tennessee took a hit, but they'd probably still

559
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<v Speaker 4>get one today. Florida, I mean, Bama, Kentucky, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>and by the way, that's the clear top tier of

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<v Speaker 4>that league. I know A and M has had a

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<v Speaker 4>good season so far and has good numbers, and I

563
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<v Speaker 4>know Ole Miss and Mississippi State and even Missouri. I mean,

564
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<v Speaker 4>the SEC's loaded, we know that. But I think the

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<v Speaker 4>clear cut top tier of that league teams that you

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be shocked if they're in the final four, all

567
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<v Speaker 4>of them. It's Auburn, Tennessee, Alabama, and Kentucky and then

568
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<v Speaker 4>I actually think there's a big gap after that, but

569
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<v Speaker 4>again big gap and then that next group, those are

570
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<v Speaker 4>still really good teams if we're being honest with ourselves.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, So last night, I mean, I'll start with

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<v Speaker 4>something we talked a bit, talked about a lot yesterday,

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<v Speaker 4>and that was just the the Corey Alexander situation. And

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<v Speaker 4>it really wasn't much of a situation. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm sure you haven't gone back and listened to

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<v Speaker 4>it right as you know, some of.

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<v Speaker 3>The condensed version. But I was very as I was

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<v Speaker 3>watching the game, very as entertaining as a game, was

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<v Speaker 3>there something in my head going mad? I wonder what

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<v Speaker 3>Nick's thinking about it?

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<v Speaker 4>Guy?

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<v Speaker 3>See right now, is is he on one?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he humbled?

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<v Speaker 3>I know I knew Beheim was strutting around in the center,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't know if he was kind of keeping

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<v Speaker 3>him at bay or.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so Beheim, I'd forgot about this and Behi and

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<v Speaker 4>so much time has passed to where one it makes

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<v Speaker 4>sense why myself and probably others have forgotten about this,

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe you didn't know. And Beheim being ninety years old,

591
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<v Speaker 4>seemingly he probably doesn't remember either. But Beheim and Kevin

592
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<v Speaker 4>Willard specifically were really nasty when they returned to Louisville

593
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<v Speaker 4>whenever Rick Bettino was fired because they were loyal to Rick.

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<v Speaker 4>Beyheim gave Rick his first job, and you know, there's

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<v Speaker 4>there's loyalty there, there's a there's a personal relationship that's strong,

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<v Speaker 4>and he didn't like how Rick was treated towards the end.

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<v Speaker 4>And with Kevin Willard the same thing. It's a family thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Kevin and Ralph Willard father's son, very close to Rick

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<v Speaker 4>and his family. So you know, I just remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>those are guys that used to kind of feel like uncles,

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<v Speaker 4>right of cousins because their family with Rick and Rick

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<v Speaker 4>was our guy. So whenever they came in and just

603
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<v Speaker 4>bashed U of l the University, the administration. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily shocking given their connections to Rick, but it was

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it didn't make me feel good. But Beheim,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he was really gushing over Louisville and Pat

607
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<v Speaker 4>Kelsey and he knows, like Beyheim's well aware, Louisville is

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<v Speaker 4>one of the best programs in the country, and man,

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<v Speaker 4>Pat Kelsey at this point seems like the best thing

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<v Speaker 4>that could have happened to him given the circumstances. So Beheim,

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<v Speaker 4>to me, I kind of soured on him just because

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<v Speaker 4>of well, I feel like he was kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty easy guy to dislike. I mean, he he's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of smarty. He I don't think has ever been actually

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<v Speaker 4>as good. I mean, he's somebody that, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 4>he got a title with Carmelo, and you can't take

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<v Speaker 4>that away. Titles have value. There's many guys who have

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<v Speaker 4>titles as coaches that a lot of us think it's

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<v Speaker 4>because of a player they had, but towards the back half,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe not the back half, because he coached. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if we're talking back half of Beyheim, we're talking long

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<v Speaker 4>before I was born. He coached. I think he got

623
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 4>hired in like nineteen eighteen at Syracuse, but they were

624
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 4>never good for like the last fifteen sixteen years. They

625
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 4>made final fours maybe once or twice, but they were

626
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.279
<v Speaker 4>like I think of Beheim as a guy that should

627
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:30.160
<v Speaker 4>have been better towards the end that realized, Hey, people

628
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.160
<v Speaker 4>have figured out your two three zone, Bozo. Hey you're

629
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:35.000
<v Speaker 4>just a bubble team every year, Like that's what you

630
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.079
<v Speaker 4>became known for. So I kind of became anti Beheim.

631
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.240
<v Speaker 4>And I think more than anything, he was pretty easy

632
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.920
<v Speaker 4>guy to dislike. And also I just remember him being

633
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 4>pretty and he's a good a hole, if that makes sense.

634
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:48.279
<v Speaker 4>Like when he's an a hole, you really feel like, man,

635
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:50.839
<v Speaker 4>this guy's a jerk. And he did that to us

636
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 4>because of how he felt about Rick, and it kind

637
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.920
<v Speaker 4>of stuck with him. But last night he was I mean,

638
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:56.599
<v Speaker 4>he was funny to me in a weird way, Like

639
00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I at times wondered if he had to be woken

640
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.200
<v Speaker 4>up from his nap when they came back from commercial break,

641
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 4>because the last thing he's bringing on the broadcast is energy.

642
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.240
<v Speaker 4>And as somebody who you know works in broadcasting, and

643
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.839
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure those who are running the operation as far

644
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 4>as the broadcast of last night's came on the a

645
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:15.559
<v Speaker 4>SEC network. I'm sure they if they heard this, they

646
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 4>may think he's right. They have didn't talk very loud,

647
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:21.039
<v Speaker 4>so like you want to set levels relatively similar when

648
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.720
<v Speaker 4>you when you have people on Mike and you've got

649
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:26.000
<v Speaker 4>broadcasters that have been you know that that have been

650
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:28.759
<v Speaker 4>doing this a long time, West Durham and Corey Alexander

651
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 4>and Beyheim just doesn't speak that loud, so like sometimes

652
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:33.880
<v Speaker 4>I can barely hear him. Which also even though he

653
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 4>when he doesn't give you a lot of energy, and

654
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 4>he's also very low volume wise, he kind of like

655
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.640
<v Speaker 4>it sounds like he's barely talking. But when he did

656
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.480
<v Speaker 4>talk last night, at times I thought he was kind

657
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:45.960
<v Speaker 4>of funny, like the guy that I thought would be

658
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 4>a pretty funny kind of wise ass he showed it

659
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:52.279
<v Speaker 4>last night, because I mean, there are two lines in

660
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.680
<v Speaker 4>the game that I feel like, like, you know, in

661
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 4>a weird way, and I guess that everybody's sense of

662
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 4>humor is different, but like he hit me hard in

663
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 4>my and like what I would think is funny, but

664
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 4>also I'd be well aware that others wouldn't think it

665
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.160
<v Speaker 4>as funny. It's as funny as I do. Because Ft

666
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 4>and Red. I mean that guy was a clown last night,

667
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 4>the guy, the guy who got a technical after he

668
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's getting killed out there. I mean the

669
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.079
<v Speaker 4>taunting technical on Sallas. Let's be honest, that is a technical, Like,

670
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 4>you can't do that. I think both instances he deserved technicals,

671
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:24.960
<v Speaker 4>Like it's tough to see your best player do that,

672
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:28.720
<v Speaker 4>and he absolutely yammed on Big Frank. Yeah, but she

673
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 4>can't do that, you like, it's a known thing, and

674
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 4>people like like, why why shouldn't you be able to

675
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 4>do that? Well, it's a different conversation. You can't do

676
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.640
<v Speaker 4>something you know that you can't do that. Others might

677
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 4>agree that is a silly rule, and maybe you get

678
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:43.759
<v Speaker 4>away with it every now and then because maybe the

679
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 4>ref isn't somebody that's willing to enforce it quite as

680
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 4>much as others. But you already have one technical just

681
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.359
<v Speaker 4>for bitching about getting fouled when you didn't, and then

682
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.839
<v Speaker 4>you taunt it in somebody's face and the whole Like,

683
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.319
<v Speaker 4>there's two things that I can think of in the

684
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.640
<v Speaker 4>last I don't know fifteen years of basketball that that

685
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:05.079
<v Speaker 4>I think are kind of minor. But it's just a

686
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 4>known rule. You remember when guys used to dunk and

687
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.799
<v Speaker 4>then slap the backboard. You don't see that anymore, you

688
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 4>know why, automatic technical, and they enforced that. It's been

689
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:16.319
<v Speaker 4>a long time, but that that's why you don't see

690
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.680
<v Speaker 4>that anymore, about five six years ago in a while, Yeah,

691
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 4>because because it was because it actually is kind of

692
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 4>a badass way to like, you know, I kind of

693
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 4>if I was able to dunk, which this may surprise

694
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 4>a lot of you. At five foot eight and not

695
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.039
<v Speaker 4>a lot of athleticism, dunking is not something I've ever

696
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 4>actually been able to do. Don't have bunnies, But if

697
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:38.000
<v Speaker 4>I could, I would absolutely want to slap that backboard

698
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 4>while I'm up there just chilling above the rim, but

699
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:44.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, never been above the rim. Yeah, yeah, so

700
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.680
<v Speaker 4>like but they they decided that was considered taunting, and

701
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:49.000
<v Speaker 4>it's just a known thing if you do it and

702
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.440
<v Speaker 4>they see it. Automatic tea. Also throwing the ball in

703
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 4>the air, that's another one I forgot about. You do that,

704
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:55.599
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna get a technical like sometimes your emotion gets

705
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:59.039
<v Speaker 4>the best of you. But like they they are, they're

706
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.960
<v Speaker 4>told to enforce that in all that every time, and

707
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 4>the hitting the head, it means you got dunked on. Yeah,

708
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 4>and it's a level of I guess, person like, it's

709
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.880
<v Speaker 4>very much a clear taunting thing. It's one thing to

710
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.039
<v Speaker 4>just flex and be excited and be happy or maybe

711
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.320
<v Speaker 4>look at somebody, but the hitting on the head is

712
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.559
<v Speaker 4>something that referees are quite literally told like to not

713
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:20.000
<v Speaker 4>allow happen. And yes, I'm sure you can find examples

714
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.519
<v Speaker 4>of it happening and it not getting called. But let

715
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.000
<v Speaker 4>me tell you what. It wasn't right after the dunk,

716
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 4>and it wasn't directly in the guy's face. If somebody's

717
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.599
<v Speaker 4>running down court and they maybe are between the free

718
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:31.440
<v Speaker 4>throw line and the half court line and then they

719
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 4>do it, you're probably gonna be able to get away

720
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:35.800
<v Speaker 4>with it. But like he he's somebody that's a super

721
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 4>talented player. They would have gotten their ass kicked regardless

722
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 4>if he got kicked out. But what he did at

723
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:42.599
<v Speaker 4>the timing, he did it like he has nobody to

724
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 4>blame but himself. It's a known thing. You will get

725
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.639
<v Speaker 4>teed up for doing that. But Efton Reed was just

726
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:48.960
<v Speaker 4>out there getting teased for talking reckless when he's down

727
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:53.159
<v Speaker 4>a bunch and beheim I mean, and it wasn't. It

728
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:56.519
<v Speaker 4>was something he just said and nobody responded to because

729
00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 4>it was just kind of in the moment. Maybe Behem's

730
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 4>kind of figuring out timing as a color analyst, that like,

731
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:04.400
<v Speaker 4>you can't just randomly blurt out. You got to kind

732
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 4>of know your spots, which actually, in my opinion, is

733
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 4>actually a really hard thing to do. Yeah, you got

734
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 4>to get comfortable with it. But when you do, you're

735
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, you're set. But it's it's it's something that

736
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 4>takes a little time. But he just said out loud,

737
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:17.360
<v Speaker 4>does that ftin read know he's down twenty seven? And

738
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 4>and I just thought that was like, I mean, it's

739
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.960
<v Speaker 4>it's something very obvious that you rarely hear broadcasters say.

740
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 4>But it's Beheim. He doesn't give a damn. Yeah, he's

741
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:28.440
<v Speaker 4>gonna say it's old. He's coming in too.

742
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 3>It's it's just it's like he's thinking out loud, and

743
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 3>he's reached that part to himself that does this guy

744
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 3>know that he's down this amount of points?

745
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 4>And they got he got teed up and they weren't

746
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.159
<v Speaker 4>down as much, and then he came back and got

747
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.000
<v Speaker 4>a bucket. I mean, he was a big he's a

748
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.000
<v Speaker 4>good player. I think he's he's lazy. He's lazy, but

749
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean he's he's got some skill. Was a big

750
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:51.239
<v Speaker 4>time recruiter. I believe he transferred from from LSU to Wake.

751
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 4>And he's a good guy. He's a good player. So

752
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 4>he he did score and then he was celebrating. And really,

753
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.199
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I wouldn't have been shocked if they heed

754
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 4>him up then because he'd already give he'd already been

755
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.000
<v Speaker 4>given a technical. I'm pretty sure as far as just

756
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, and this is just a Wake looked unhinged

757
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 4>last night, like they looked, they looked mentally weak, and

758
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Louisville was just out there playing ball, which again like

759
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 4>corny to say, but I like to see my team

760
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:18.159
<v Speaker 4>out there not getting into the shenanigans that they were.

761
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 4>But James Scott is walking off the floor, not saying

762
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.639
<v Speaker 4>a word to anybody other than you know, just walking

763
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:25.760
<v Speaker 4>to his coach and his teammates to sit down, and

764
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:28.320
<v Speaker 4>Epton Reid's like following him to the bench to talk

765
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.599
<v Speaker 4>reckless to him, and he gets teed up, like and

766
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:33.559
<v Speaker 4>and the best part was that it was Corey Alexander

767
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 4>and Jim Beheim kind of doing their own talk show,

768
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:37.920
<v Speaker 4>and west Durham had to cut like, all of a sudden,

769
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.920
<v Speaker 4>we're watching the game and I'm thinking they haven't even

770
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:41.440
<v Speaker 4>like do we miss something? Do we need to rewind?

771
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:44.239
<v Speaker 4>Why is somebody shooting technical free throws? And then Westerham

772
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.599
<v Speaker 4>finally says, hey, fellows, hold on, partner, we gotta they've

773
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 4>just given f and read a technical and you know,

774
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.079
<v Speaker 4>then they go then and then they go back and

775
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 4>show kind of what he did that deserved that. But

776
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 4>the other thing that Beaheim said that that that I

777
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:00.519
<v Speaker 4>thought was really funny. Welly we was asked to question

778
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 4>that he gave a smart ass answer to which was funny.

779
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 4>The question was what if Steve Forbes? What is Steve

780
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Forbes is gonna be able to find something offensively? And

781
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:12.679
<v Speaker 4>Behem responded with, I think his best bet is next week.

782
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean like just basically saying this is over, and

783
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.519
<v Speaker 4>then another one just this was just another one of

784
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 4>his lines that you don't often hear broadcasters say. And

785
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 4>I think if it was like if it was if

786
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:27.360
<v Speaker 4>I was a Wake Forest fan in the moment, I

787
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:28.920
<v Speaker 4>probably would have been bothered by it, because you know,

788
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 4>that's my team. Had it been said about Louisville, Like

789
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:33.559
<v Speaker 4>when Kenny was here, I would have laughed and probably understood,

790
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:35.400
<v Speaker 4>because you know, that's how bad things were. But Wake's

791
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 4>a good team and they were just getting blown out.

792
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.199
<v Speaker 4>They'd won like eight of nine going into last night

793
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 4>before Louisville gave him a business So, uh, I mean

794
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.639
<v Speaker 4>out of nowhere. In the second half, he just says,

795
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.119
<v Speaker 4>man Steve Forbes, he is trying to figure out how

796
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 4>the heck he can get out of here as soon

797
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.360
<v Speaker 4>as possible. And I mean, just again, I'm eating it

798
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.360
<v Speaker 4>up because he's talking up my team and really, you know,

799
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:58.719
<v Speaker 4>making it obvious that Chucky Hepburn and this Louisville team,

800
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:01.239
<v Speaker 4>Pat Kelsey, they got this way Forest team in hell.

801
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:03.679
<v Speaker 4>And I was not with you last night, but I

802
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.920
<v Speaker 4>yelled it aloud to my to my friends we went

803
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.519
<v Speaker 4>to dinner with to watch the game, or we actually

804
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:10.760
<v Speaker 4>hosted dinner. And uh, I had to give you credit

805
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 4>because Cuffey had Chucky had the cuffs out.

806
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.079
<v Speaker 3>That sorry, Cuffy, I like that, I said, Cuffy's.

807
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.840
<v Speaker 4>Chucky had the cuffs out, So I like the cuffs, don't.

808
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 4>I'd never heard that, but when I went to a

809
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.159
<v Speaker 4>game with Austin. First, Uh, we went to the Carolina

810
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:25.519
<v Speaker 4>game earlier this month. You know, Chucky, of course, one

811
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:27.719
<v Speaker 4>of the best defenders in college basketball. He really sets

812
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.119
<v Speaker 4>the tone and is I think he's the biggest factor

813
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 4>on why this team is so good defensively because he's

814
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:34.679
<v Speaker 4>the one that's just making life a living health of

815
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:37.639
<v Speaker 4>the opposing guard that he's guarding, and then everybody else

816
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 4>is just uncomfortable by the time they get they get

817
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.679
<v Speaker 4>the ball, and uh yeah, I think, I mean, I

818
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:44.559
<v Speaker 4>don't know where you heard. I mean, maybe that's basketball

819
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 4>lingo that is just a little bit too young for

820
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:48.960
<v Speaker 4>me because I'm an old guy now. But Chucky's got

821
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.960
<v Speaker 4>the cuffs out is something I now find myself saying

822
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.599
<v Speaker 4>aloud when he's out there defending city. And and you know,

823
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.760
<v Speaker 4>I got to give credit. I got to cite the source.

824
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.039
<v Speaker 4>I gotta give credit to my guy Austin, because.

825
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.360
<v Speaker 3>He learned a lot of that basketball lingo, like playing

826
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.320
<v Speaker 3>two K with the boys back in the day.

827
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Cuffs And again, that's where I missed it, because I

828
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<v Speaker 4>you know, I was an NBA live guy. I don't

829
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<v Speaker 4>even know you remember that that was the course of

830
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:14.440
<v Speaker 4>the EA Sports Basketball game yeah, and then two K

831
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<v Speaker 4>passed him up and they were like meaning e A

832
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:18.280
<v Speaker 4>was like, yeah, We're just gonna stick with Madden. That's

833
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:22.559
<v Speaker 4>what we do. That's our thing. So Corey Alexander last

834
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 4>night he was fine. I mean, he didn't need to apologize,

835
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<v Speaker 4>and I mean it would have been it would have

836
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<v Speaker 4>been notable.

837
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<v Speaker 1>That's why.

838
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, but a little something in his ear. But

839
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 4>he you know, he was very complimentary of Pat Kelcey.

840
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:38.440
<v Speaker 4>He really talked up the I mean, I feel like

841
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.559
<v Speaker 4>he could have at least been a little more aware

842
00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 4>of his nonsense because there were two times where he

843
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:49.480
<v Speaker 4>really said something that was not only true, but like

844
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 4>it was. It was appreciated from a Louisville fan myself

845
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 4>that when the when the Young was rocking, he said,

846
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:57.639
<v Speaker 4>this is what Louisville basketball, this is what it should be,

847
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 4>and this is this is what rollerm my id you

848
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.679
<v Speaker 4>that this is one of the best atmospheres in college basketball,

849
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:05.480
<v Speaker 4>one of my favorite places to come and call a

850
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.159
<v Speaker 4>game because these fans. And again I said at the

851
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.199
<v Speaker 4>beginning of the show, I wasn't there last night. I

852
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 4>had some real fomo, but I thought on television that

853
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:15.639
<v Speaker 4>looked as good as I've seen the em Center look

854
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:16.679
<v Speaker 4>in many many years.

855
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:18.159
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and it felt that way too.

856
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.199
<v Speaker 4>And I mean, it's just the energy in the vibe

857
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 4>around Louisville Hoops right now is just it's it's through

858
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:24.800
<v Speaker 4>the roof and I love it.

859
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.840
<v Speaker 3>And guy Mike Rutherford tweeted last night and I told

860
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.039
<v Speaker 3>this to my dad Kirk as soon as soon as

861
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.119
<v Speaker 3>it happened. But everyone was just antsy waiting for Rain

862
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Smith to get open. Oh yeah, he finally got his first.

863
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.719
<v Speaker 3>Look like you see him finally get open. You could

864
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.679
<v Speaker 3>hear the gas, get it to him, get it to him,

865
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.000
<v Speaker 3>and then he did, because that's what everyone was waiting for.

866
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:46.639
<v Speaker 3>You talk about it kind of starting off a little

867
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:49.360
<v Speaker 3>bit slow, Wake was getting in guy's faces.

868
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:51.840
<v Speaker 4>No Wake came out with a really good mindset. Like look,

869
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Rain last night went four of ten from three and

870
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:55.800
<v Speaker 4>I feel like he had a quiet night. That's sixteen

871
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 4>points and forty percent from the line. You know what

872
00:40:57.599 --> 00:40:59.840
<v Speaker 4>that is. That's a damn good night for anybody. But

873
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, last game we saw me at ten. So

874
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:05.760
<v Speaker 4>just all around good vibes and it's been a fun

875
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.440
<v Speaker 4>ride so far. And I'm I'm I'm enjoying every minute

876
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:09.480
<v Speaker 4>of it. We got to get to a break. We'll

877
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.199
<v Speaker 4>come back and wrap up the three o'clock hour here

878
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:13.480
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879
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<v Speaker 4>All right, we are wrapping up the three o'clock hour

884
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:29.320
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887
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:38.159
<v Speaker 4>And I'll use this little time to mention a story

888
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:40.440
<v Speaker 4>that isn't a good one, but it's local here. There

889
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:44.880
<v Speaker 4>was a student at More High School that has been

890
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.119
<v Speaker 4>charged after I mean, I guess they call it swatting,

891
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 4>but JCPS said that they will have a student criminally

892
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:58.920
<v Speaker 4>charged and disciplined for falsely reporting a shooting inside the

893
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.559
<v Speaker 4>high school. That was a story I believe. Yesterday I

894
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.000
<v Speaker 4>saw our own Paul Miles, the hardest working man in

895
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 4>show business. He was reporting on it for WHAS and

896
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.440
<v Speaker 4>I saw that, and I guess it's just part of

897
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:15.599
<v Speaker 4>me getting older, and I'm a dad. So my instant

898
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:18.880
<v Speaker 4>thought was, man, I feel I feel for like those parents.

899
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.239
<v Speaker 4>But then again, now I also am getting even older

900
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.960
<v Speaker 4>as a parent to where I now understand when you

901
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 4>have kids that are troubled and have issues, you never

902
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:31.760
<v Speaker 4>know why that's happened. But not a surprise for me

903
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.840
<v Speaker 4>at times when I see that their issues are are

904
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 4>because they don't have good parents. But like you, I

905
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:41.159
<v Speaker 4>mean not to say that this person's life should be ruined,

906
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 4>but like I won't be surprised if the prosecution is

907
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 4>to the full extent and they make an example because

908
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.840
<v Speaker 4>I think with the sensitivity for good reason to that

909
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:56.079
<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff, like that's the I mean, I don't

910
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:58.119
<v Speaker 4>know where you would rank the last things that you

911
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.440
<v Speaker 4>should joke about in society and twenty twenty five, but

912
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:03.440
<v Speaker 4>a school shooting has certainly got to be up there

913
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:07.760
<v Speaker 4>towards the top, because I mean, it's it happens. I mean,

914
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 4>we're at a point now where it's still just an

915
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:16.559
<v Speaker 4>unthinkable thing and it's just so horrific and tragic, especially

916
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.960
<v Speaker 4>when you have multiple children and teachers and just anybody

917
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:24.199
<v Speaker 4>losing their life. I mean You're not surprised by it

918
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 4>now like you were when Columbine happened, because it happens.

919
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, anytime it happens is something that should never happen,

920
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.239
<v Speaker 4>but it happens frequently for something like that. I mean,

921
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 4>it's just it's crazy. So, I mean, I don't know

922
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 4>what kind of real charges and I'm not even sure

923
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:46.679
<v Speaker 4>what the charges are. Again, I know it's a real thing.

924
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:49.320
<v Speaker 4>In fact, there's been a couple of documentaries I've seen

925
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:53.599
<v Speaker 4>true crime stuff that feature just kind of what this

926
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 4>has become. How and again I'm just kind of racking

927
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.920
<v Speaker 4>my brain here as I'm revisiting this. I stream a

928
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.119
<v Speaker 4>lot of stuff that's whenever I go and run on

929
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:04.039
<v Speaker 4>the treadmill to gym, I just find something to watch.

930
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 4>And I'm a nerd for documentaries. And I believe initially

931
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 4>the whole swatting thing about calling in like a fake

932
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:14.000
<v Speaker 4>bomb threat, that kind of stuff, it was a real

933
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:18.119
<v Speaker 4>problem for years where it took up a ton of resources.

934
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 4>It was a really serious and scary thing. But the

935
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.039
<v Speaker 4>actual you know, the accountability didn't match up, meaning what

936
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 4>you were charged with and what you were going to

937
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:29.079
<v Speaker 4>be punished with. It just didn't seem severe enough, and

938
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 4>I guess that's I think that since changed. But I mean,

939
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:35.199
<v Speaker 4>can you imagine being a parent at a school and

940
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.760
<v Speaker 4>it making the news or you getting alerted by the

941
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:42.559
<v Speaker 4>school system that that someone has reported that there's a

942
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 4>shooting at your I mean like that. I mean, I

943
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.320
<v Speaker 4>just I lose my ability to speak whenever I think

944
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 4>about sort of how I would react to that, because

945
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what I would do. I mean, be scary.

946
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 4>It's almost it's almost like these kids that do the

947
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 4>challenges that become like a trend for you younger people,

948
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 4>young you know, dumb kids, if if I may, like

949
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.360
<v Speaker 4>eating tide pods and whatnot, like that kind of stuff. Well,

950
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.280
<v Speaker 4>there was one where kids were out there and the

951
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 4>challenge was to go missing, go in hiding long enough

952
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:15.559
<v Speaker 4>to where you make the news as a missing kid,

953
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:18.400
<v Speaker 4>and like you for for you know, a couple of

954
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 4>couple of laughs with your pals in school. You know

955
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.960
<v Speaker 4>what you're putting your parents through, Like you're a sixth

956
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:27.320
<v Speaker 4>son of a bitch. No pardon my French, but like

957
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 4>that's the world. I mean, like I'm not sure my

958
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:31.760
<v Speaker 4>children could do something. I mean, I guess they could

959
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:33.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to think about it would be But

960
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.000
<v Speaker 4>like if I knew that my kid was playing a

961
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.519
<v Speaker 4>funny on me, and he was because he, you know,

962
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:39.599
<v Speaker 4>wanted to get some laugh with laughs with his buddies,

963
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 4>and I thought he was abducted or something like, I

964
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:45.599
<v Speaker 4>feel like I don't know if I'd ever forgive him.

965
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:47.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I could ever not love my child,

966
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:49.400
<v Speaker 4>because you know, that's just what you feel like as

967
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:53.360
<v Speaker 4>a parent. But man, that that's I mean, it's great

968
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:56.280
<v Speaker 4>that it wasn't a real threat, but man, I wouldn't

969
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:59.480
<v Speaker 4>be shocked if if the extent of the punishment is

970
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.559
<v Speaker 4>is severe. All Right, two more hours left. We'll get

971
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 4>back into the fun stuff and that's basketball around here,

972
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.800
<v Speaker 4>and we'll take you up till six o'clock on Sports

973
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<v Speaker 4>Talk seven ninety
