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Speaker 3: Hey everybody, this is Less Strive.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I know.
Speaker 5: Aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Otis.
Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome back to Sasquatch Odyssey. Thank you
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Speaker 1: got to sit down and talk to Dylan, and Dylan
Speaker 1: had shared his experience once before on another podcast several
Speaker 1: years ago, and he did not have a great experience,
Speaker 1: and I've frankly had quite a few conversations with people
Speaker 1: recently about that very thing and how they were treated
Speaker 1: on other podcast. Towards the end of his interview, Dylan
Speaker 1: and I get into that a little bit, so I'll
Speaker 1: let him explain all about that. In just a second, Dylan,
Speaker 1: I talk about a roadside crossing that was captured on
Speaker 1: a Georgia State Troopers dash cam and it was featured
Speaker 1: on Finding Bigfoot. I've played some audio from that in
Speaker 1: this episode. If you want to see that full video
Speaker 1: and see the creature crossing the road and the recreation
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Speaker 1: the road from where Dylan had his experience years later.
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Speaker 1: It is Dylan from New Jersey. Welcome to the show man.
Speaker 6: Hey, how are you?
Speaker 1: I am good and I'm glad I had to have
Speaker 1: you on the podcast. I know you're here to talk
Speaker 1: about your experiences, but before we get into the experiences
Speaker 1: you're gonna share with us, let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about what got you interested in this subject to begin with.
Speaker 6: Okay, So, I was always a latch key kind of kid,
Speaker 6: like I was always outside, even though I was like Suburbia,
Speaker 6: New Jersey. I was always outside looking for frogs, looking
Speaker 6: for snakes, just being like an outside kid, like the
Speaker 6: rule of Holman street lights there on. That was my life.
Speaker 6: So I always gravitated towards the woods. The woods were like.
Speaker 6: I didn't have a great home life, if that's not
Speaker 6: obvious by being a latchkey kid. So I always felt
Speaker 6: comfort in the woods as a younger kid, I stumbled
Speaker 6: upon weird books and read about the Jersey Devil and
Speaker 6: read about Bigfoot, and then kind of became an adult
Speaker 6: and forgot about it, got reel into cars. Then I
Speaker 6: had this first I don't even know what to call
Speaker 6: it other than a class A sighting, because I saw
Speaker 6: the thing. We were like fish, they feet away from
Speaker 6: each other. I was at a car show in southern Georgia.
Speaker 6: The car show was called the Southern Worthcy. It was
Speaker 6: in this I don't even want to call it weird
Speaker 6: because it's just it was weird to me because I
Speaker 6: just never saw anything like it. But the town was
Speaker 6: called Helen, Georgia. It's got like little German style terra
Speaker 6: cotta type roof looking things like. It's just cool and
Speaker 6: different and obscure and just in the middle of the
Speaker 6: woods in Georgia. Ironically, come to find out, after I
Speaker 6: had come back returned home from the trip whatever, come
Speaker 6: to find out that the TV show Finding Bigfoot was
Speaker 6: there with that road crossing video with the troopers dash
Speaker 6: camp on this.
Speaker 2: Episode of Finding Bigfoot. For over fifty years, the remote
Speaker 2: woods of northern Georgia have been a hotspot for Bigfoot activity.
Speaker 2: With hundreds of documented encounters. Now the Bigfoot Field Researchers
Speaker 2: organization led by Matt Moneymaker, journey to Georgia to investigate
Speaker 2: the latest piece of evidence, a never before broadcast police
Speaker 2: video that some believe is photographic proof of the Sasquatch.
Speaker 3: Did you say that yes.
Speaker 2: The investigation leads the team to a small town on
Speaker 2: the edge of Georgia's Chattahoochee National Forest, where shocking new
Speaker 2: eyewitness accounts result in a remarkable discovery.
Speaker 5: These look like toads.
Speaker 7: There's a track that from ten feet you can see
Speaker 7: is a foot print, a large foot print.
Speaker 5: This might just be the real deal here.
Speaker 2: As the team closes in on the truth, they're joined
Speaker 2: by volunteers from the BFRO in an effort to determine
Speaker 2: once and for all if Bigfoot exists in northern Georgia.
Speaker 8: Definitely definitely haven't come over here and check it out,
Speaker 8: you guys, pops.
Speaker 3: Fo work it definitely would hear me. I've been tracking
Speaker 3: Sasquatches for twenty five years.
Speaker 6: But these, in fact are real.
Speaker 2: I've seen them, they're here.
Speaker 9: I'm having a really difficult time finding an explanation for this.
Speaker 3: There's something on the hill.
Speaker 6: I do think there's a squatch.
Speaker 3: In these words, the.
Speaker 10: Team and I have traveled across the country to rural
Speaker 10: northern Georgia for one reason only to determine if bigfoots
Speaker 10: exist in this lush region of the country. This wide
Speaker 10: open part of the state offers the perfect combination of
Speaker 10: small farming communities surrounded by vast tracts of national forest.
Speaker 10: This is just the sort of place we've come to
Speaker 10: expect bigfoot sightings to occur, and this is where our
Speaker 10: latest report comes from. Georgia's Chattahoochee National Force has long
Speaker 10: been known as a hotbed of bigfoot activity within the
Speaker 10: bigfoot research community. In fact, petroglyphs produced by the earliest
Speaker 10: Native Americans that lived in the area depicts them interacting
Speaker 10: with a bigfoot type creature. So when you take the
Speaker 10: century of documented encounters in conjunction with almost a million
Speaker 10: square miles of untouched and unpopulated forest, you get a
Speaker 10: location that is very likely a bigfoot habitat.
Speaker 3: But primarily we're.
Speaker 10: Investigating a piece of footage that came from a dash
Speaker 10: cam from a state trooper vehicle.
Speaker 3: I can very easily.
Speaker 6: Are kicking like that, what.
Speaker 5: Did you see that.
Speaker 10: It's a classic road crossing siding at night, and it's
Speaker 10: the first time that's ever been gotten by a law
Speaker 10: enforcement's dash camera. The police didn't really do anything about
Speaker 10: it afterwards. There was no laws apparently broken, so there
Speaker 10: was no need to do any kind of a police investigation.
Speaker 3: All we have from the incident is the video.
Speaker 5: Looking at the footage, you can actually count the steps. One, two,
Speaker 5: three steps brought it over the white line on the
Speaker 5: left hand side of the road. The speed of the
Speaker 5: creature while it moves across the road seems very quick,
Speaker 5: but we won't know for sure, and we get somebody
Speaker 5: in the same position to see if we can recreate
Speaker 5: it ourselves. I think there's a very good chance that
Speaker 5: what we're seeing in that video is a real sasquatch.
Speaker 6: It's my opinion that this is a hoax and this
Speaker 6: is somebody in a suit.
Speaker 4: But I'm with you, guys. We got to get some
Speaker 4: scale and we got to prove it one way or another.
Speaker 11: A common observation amongst witnesses when they see one, it
Speaker 11: looks like it's gliding, like it's almost like a human
Speaker 11: on a bicycle. You see the legs moving, but the
Speaker 11: shoulders and head hole fairly steady.
Speaker 3: I have to say I see that here as well.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's not clear enough to definitively say it is
Speaker 11: or it isn't a sasquatch or a person in a costume.
Speaker 11: We came here to see this video. Was it a
Speaker 11: guy in a monkey suit? Or was it the real deal?
Speaker 11: Was it a sasquatch that they filled.
Speaker 3: We're going to meet Mary Scott.
Speaker 10: She was the passenger in the state trooper vehicle when
Speaker 10: the footage was obtained. We're going to take her back
Speaker 10: to where that was and ask her to tell us
Speaker 10: everything that happened from her perspective.
Speaker 3: So the incident happened right here here.
Speaker 4: It did.
Speaker 9: Actually, we were traveling this way and it happened right
Speaker 9: before that guardrail.
Speaker 3: Why can we just take a look walk down there?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, this is it. It appeared to cross right here.
Speaker 9: We are coming this way about fifty five miles an hour,
Speaker 9: some pitch black, so it seemed like we were doing
Speaker 9: one hundred. It was so late at night, there was
Speaker 9: not another car on the road. All of a sudden,
Speaker 9: with no notice whatsoever, this very tall, very furry, very
Speaker 9: fast creature comes from that side of the road.
Speaker 3: What the crap did you see that?
Speaker 4: Yes, shoots down here.
Speaker 9: Workler's going too fast to stop immediately, so we hit
Speaker 9: the brakes, spun around, immediately came back.
Speaker 4: I thought it was seeing things.
Speaker 3: Actually, oh my goodness, please tell me we got to video.
Speaker 4: The officer puts on the blue lights.
Speaker 9: We jump out of the car and the officer had
Speaker 9: a big gun drawn and he's identifying himself. Whatever it
Speaker 9: was was gone.
Speaker 7: I was shocked when I saw it because it was
Speaker 7: so big, and normally in North Georgia, animals jump out,
Speaker 7: but it's either usually deer, occasionally a black bear.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 9: Nothing that large and standing so erect and running so fast.
Speaker 4: So we know that there are a lot of black
Speaker 4: bears here.
Speaker 3: But this thing was on two legs. The entire time I.
Speaker 9: Have seen black bears, I've had two even run across
Speaker 9: in front of me before.
Speaker 4: No comparison none.
Speaker 10: What I gathered from Mary Scott isn't she firmly believed
Speaker 10: that they saw sasquatch. At no point did she even
Speaker 10: bring up the possibility that this was a person in
Speaker 10: a costume. She also outright dismissed the possibility that it
Speaker 10: was a bear.
Speaker 6: I mean with Mary and coming to this location and
Speaker 6: seeing the layout, we would be crazy if we didn't
Speaker 6: try to recreate it and.
Speaker 4: See if it could be a prank.
Speaker 5: The way we're going to do this reconstruction is running
Speaker 5: it a car of the same size, and then we're
Speaker 5: gonna drive at the same speed and have Bobo run
Speaker 5: across the road. We're hoping to shed some light on
Speaker 5: the size of the creature, the speed it was traveling,
Speaker 5: and also where it was coming from.
Speaker 6: And going to.
Speaker 5: Okay, I just finished setting up the camera and the
Speaker 5: recorder inside the car. Renee, You're going to be driving
Speaker 5: about fifty five miles an hour. Matt, you monitor it,
Speaker 5: and then I'm gonna be signaling Bobo when to run
Speaker 5: across the road. Hopefully, what we can do here is
Speaker 5: get a simulation of the dash cam video Itself's who
Speaker 5: we can learn from it.
Speaker 6: Basically, I will make sure of coordinates so no one
Speaker 6: gets run over.
Speaker 11: If I'm really glad, we got to come here in
Speaker 11: the daylight and see it ahead of time, so we
Speaker 11: know exactly where to go and what to do.
Speaker 5: A little light goes a long ways.
Speaker 11: Yeah, all right, guys on the.
Speaker 10: Road ready, to beat the Bigfoot.
Speaker 11: The treat of my whole life for this role.
Speaker 5: Ad, please let us know when you're in position.
Speaker 3: We're rolling.
Speaker 10: Okay, we're past the intersection and we've got guardrails on
Speaker 10: the side.
Speaker 3: She's trying to get up a speed. We're at forty
Speaker 3: and the guard.
Speaker 12: Rails hundred feet for the first mailbox and coming around
Speaker 12: the bed another mailbox are Now, I.
Speaker 4: Don't know Bobo could move that fast.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, that was a hoax. That person wait until
Speaker 11: the last second. That was kind of sketchy running out
Speaker 11: that close to the car.
Speaker 5: Did you see him book?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I'm thinking once those images are compared side by side,
Speaker 10: we're going to start to see some unusual things, and
Speaker 10: that will show that this thing across the road is
Speaker 10: even less likely to have been a human and a costume.
Speaker 11: I've run in from cars of the night before, but
Speaker 11: I was always naked.
Speaker 10: Here we go, okay, here we come, coming up, there's
Speaker 10: the first mailbox, coming around, second mailbox, and now there
Speaker 10: go the bounding movement looks different than what you've seen
Speaker 10: the footage exactly it Clydes Real, Well.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm definitely leaning towards this is a sasquatch on film,
Speaker 5: and I can't be one hundred percent sure, but I
Speaker 5: think the context of the situation Mary's excellent eyewitness account.
Speaker 10: There are two telling signs for me that this was
Speaker 10: a big foot. First, the figure stride was effortless, while
Speaker 10: Bobo lurched with each step. Second, when you pause the video,
Speaker 10: you could see that the figure's legs are basically the
Speaker 10: same length as Bobo's. Sasquatches have different body proportions compared
Speaker 10: to humans. Their legs are shorter comparatively than humans, and
Speaker 10: their arms are longer. So if the legs were the
Speaker 10: same length, that would make the figure at least six
Speaker 10: inches taller than and closer to seven feet tall.
Speaker 6: The question for me isn't is it a sasquatch.
Speaker 5: The question for me is can a person recreate that?
Speaker 3: And it's a person?
Speaker 11: Could that thing ran kind of bent, hunched smooth? It
Speaker 11: wasn't bouncing up like I was. I think I was
Speaker 11: a real squatch.
Speaker 6: I just found that a little interesting and it made
Speaker 6: me start to go down the subject. After I saw
Speaker 6: this to go back, I was having a night or
Speaker 6: whatever you want to call it with a girlfriend. At
Speaker 6: the time. It was like two or three in the morning,
Speaker 6: we got into a huge fight. I did what I
Speaker 6: always do. I went to the woods and all I
Speaker 6: had to do was just walk outside. It was literally
Speaker 6: just one cut road that you just walked, and it
Speaker 6: branched off to other smaller roads. I don't even really
Speaker 6: know how to describe it. It was just small town.
Speaker 6: This one road that I was on. It ran alongside
Speaker 6: I don't know if it was actually the Chattowoojee River
Speaker 6: or a tributary of it or whatever. Again, because New Jersey,
Speaker 6: I don't know the area that well. I'm just gone
Speaker 6: by memory. I vividly remember there was like a water
Speaker 6: park or a tubing sing or something on the right
Speaker 6: side that was closed for the night, obviously. Then the
Speaker 6: little bank. There was this little road that I was
Speaker 6: walking on, and on the other side of the road
Speaker 6: it was just one lane each way, not one lane
Speaker 6: little tiny dirt road. It was paved like a regular
Speaker 6: one lane each way road. On the other side of
Speaker 6: the road there was a clitch face I want to
Speaker 6: call it. I guess it was I would say easily
Speaker 6: two story house site. Not something that I would think
Speaker 6: a person would be on. But again, I'm at a
Speaker 6: car show, there's a bunch of drunk people. Anything possible.
Speaker 6: I'm walking along. I saw this again, is just a
Speaker 6: weird thing that was fixated in my brain. I was
Speaker 6: walking along and I saw a luna moth. Never saw
Speaker 6: them before. Thought it was the coolest thing ever. Hyper
Speaker 6: fixated on it, started taking pictures of it whatever. All
Speaker 6: of a sudden, up on the cliff kind of area,
Speaker 6: I hear something fairly large. I don't want to call
Speaker 6: it crashing through the trees. It wasn't like whipping trees down,
Speaker 6: nothing crazy like that. It was just being It was
Speaker 6: just doing this thing. Started looking up where I heard
Speaker 6: the sound, and I'm starting to see something moving and
Speaker 6: I'm what is that a raccoon? Any tree? Are there
Speaker 6: bears in Georgia? What am I looking at? And all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, I don't know if it was hunched
Speaker 6: over or sat down or whatever. It was like a
Speaker 6: dark night, but it was one of those the moon
Speaker 6: is so bright you don't need a streetlight kind of deal.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to say like I saw like a
Speaker 6: detailed face pushed in nose or like nothing like that.
Speaker 6: But I could see that this was not a person.
Speaker 6: It was not a bear. I've seen bear in woods.
Speaker 6: Like I said, I'm latchke kid. I still to this day,
Speaker 6: avid mountain biker see bears regularly. It wasn't a bear.
Speaker 6: My brain instantly went to, this is just some Joe
Speaker 6: Schmo in the monkey soup being stupid. But then I remember,
Speaker 6: wait a minute, it's three in the morning, two in
Speaker 6: the morning, whatever it may have been. It was super late,
Speaker 6: and this is a cliff side, and I don't think
Speaker 6: there's any bouldering experts at a car show in Georgia.
Speaker 6: So I proceeded to continue to look at it and
Speaker 6: as it I'm not going to say like it changed
Speaker 6: shape or whatever, but it was definitely hunched over or
Speaker 6: sat down or it was doing something, and it stood up,
Speaker 6: and it felt like an eternity. It felt like we
Speaker 6: were looking at each other, like staring at each other's souls.
Speaker 6: I don't even know how to explain it, but it.
Speaker 6: I don't get afraid. I'm very much either fight or flight,
Speaker 6: there's no in between. Usually I was law enforcement five years.
Speaker 6: I was an EMT. I was firefighter. I thrived on adrenaline.
Speaker 6: I was frozen. I was utterly, purely frozen. I couldn't
Speaker 6: process what I was looking at. I still to this day,
Speaker 6: I'm sure you can hear. I'm getting like a little
Speaker 6: nervous talking about it right now. It was so large
Speaker 6: it looked like if a professional bodybuilder somehow could put
Speaker 6: on a fur suit. But I could still see his
Speaker 6: muscles like almost sorry, get them like it's a little much,
Speaker 6: because I just I can't. It's weird. I can't understand it.
Speaker 6: It was almost like it was so big. I felt
Speaker 6: like from when we were looking at each other, the
Speaker 6: way it turned, I could almost it was so big
Speaker 6: from its head to its neck, it like rotated its
Speaker 6: entire body and I could see the muscles ripple almost again.
Speaker 6: I don't get afraid. I was terrified. But then all
Speaker 6: of a sudden it went away. It just felt, Okay,
Speaker 6: you are real. You could definitely, probably, judging by the
Speaker 6: side of you, come off of the cliff and do.
Speaker 3: Whatever you want to do to me.
Speaker 6: I hope that's not what you're gonna do, but you
Speaker 6: definitely could. And no sooner did the thought go away.
Speaker 6: And it was just tough. I don't even know what
Speaker 6: to call it, like a kind of sound, and it
Speaker 6: was gone. It just melted into the trees, and.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to sea.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. After these messages.
Speaker 6: I was dumbfounded, and then all of a sudden, flight
Speaker 6: kicked in. It was time to go. I ran as
Speaker 6: fast as I could run back to the hotel. I
Speaker 6: didn't care about cars coming. I was out. I got
Speaker 6: back to the hotel and I spoke to nobody. The
Speaker 6: next day, I tried to confide in some people, so
Speaker 6: I put it away, came home, found out about the
Speaker 6: TV show, sought. Wow, that's interesting. That's a pretty big
Speaker 6: something going across the street, and that's pretty much where
Speaker 6: I was. Again, tried to confide in somebody, got a
Speaker 6: little bit less laugh that, and then just got quiet
Speaker 6: about it and started doing my own little research. I
Speaker 6: again stumbled upon another podcast, told my story and unfortunately
Speaker 6: was met with silence. After I told my story, where
Speaker 6: it just felt like all that was while it was
Speaker 6: a story, when I was just looking for not really
Speaker 6: a home for my story, but just talk about it
Speaker 6: and feel better about it, it somehow made me feel worse
Speaker 6: about it. Then I just completely walked away from the subject,
Speaker 6: and I'm now dipping my toes back into it a
Speaker 6: little bit, and I'm understanding a little bit more about
Speaker 6: this whole bigfoot sing, whether it's humanoids, how it is,
Speaker 6: whatever you want to call it, or the wool aspect.
Speaker 6: I'm not quite in the wool aspect. Anything's possible because
Speaker 6: they're not supposed to exist a nice all one. I
Speaker 6: don't know. Maybe I'm crazy. I don't know, maybe they're
Speaker 6: not crazy. Upon finally slightly dipping my toes back into
Speaker 6: understanding it and hearing people talk about it and watching
Speaker 6: things on YouTube and hearing your podcast, I think at
Speaker 6: points after this, I think I heard them twice. They
Speaker 6: in the middle timeframe, I was in Maine. Again, I'm
Speaker 6: just a kid from Jerseys. I might have names wrong.
Speaker 6: I don't think I do. Me and my friends every
Speaker 6: year would lend to cabin in Maine. You'll go fishing
Speaker 6: because again outside kid latch kate kid, that's the woods
Speaker 6: are my home. After this particular sighting, I would just
Speaker 6: I'm not. I don't like to go into woods end night.
Speaker 6: It just it changed. I'm just a little different. I
Speaker 6: just don't like to go alone. So one night, me
Speaker 6: and a girlfriend at the time and a friend of
Speaker 6: mine we would always I got ahead of myself again. Sorry,
Speaker 6: I'm still like a little pumped up from that last story. Okay,
Speaker 6: sorry about that. So me and a bunch of my
Speaker 6: friends we would go up to Maine every year and
Speaker 6: we would rent a house for one week on a
Speaker 6: different lake and just bring our I didn't own boat,
Speaker 6: but they all day we would bring our boats and
Speaker 6: just the guys outside in the woods. This particular year,
Speaker 6: there were these big maths, but not the size of
Speaker 6: a luna moth, a regular old moth in the woods,
Speaker 6: but just bigger. Where we were staying, I think it
Speaker 6: was called Moosehead Lake, I think was the name of it.
Speaker 6: You would hear these giant moths hit the water and
Speaker 6: they would like flap around, and then you would hear
Speaker 6: splash and they're gone. So we went in the middle
Speaker 6: of the night again, but I was not alone, so
Speaker 6: it was okay, and I was in the middle of
Speaker 6: the water, so I thought I was good. Were me
Speaker 6: and my one friend and my girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 6: We're all throwing big top water frogs to try and
Speaker 6: imitate this splash sound to hope fully kept some fish.
Speaker 6: I go to cast and all of a sudden I
Speaker 6: hear up the lake somewhere on this I think it
Speaker 6: was like a mountain, maybe like it felt like a
Speaker 6: mountain because you were sunk down in the lake. The
Speaker 6: scuttural almost Ohio how sounding. It sounded like Matt Moneymaker
Speaker 6: was in the woods, just with an apple fire and
Speaker 6: some bass coming out of his chest. But at the
Speaker 6: time I didn't know what it was. And I was like, Wow,
Speaker 6: that was a weird animal. And then the other two
Speaker 6: people I was with were like, yeah, that was really weird.
Speaker 6: And that was that again, dipping my toes back into this.
Speaker 6: Now I know what on Ohio how is and Matt
Speaker 6: Moneymaker and what they sound like, and I think that's.
Speaker 13: What I heard.
Speaker 6: And then the last and most recent one I was
Speaker 6: in again, sorry if I butchered the names. Rattleboro, Vermont.
Speaker 6: It's Vermont, Massachusetts border somewhere around there, I want to
Speaker 6: say again with a girlfriend at the time in her
Speaker 6: sister's husband's family, so her brother in law's family. Again,
Speaker 6: I'm just kid from Jersey. I don't know the area,
Speaker 6: but the woods. It's okay. Everybody's outside that night around
Speaker 6: the fire. It's November. The other two sightings were early
Speaker 6: summer like May June fish. This particular one was the opposite,
Speaker 6: going into the fall November, getting into it's starting to
Speaker 6: get cold, is probably going to snow soon. We're all
Speaker 6: hanging out around fire. It gets super late. Everybody goes
Speaker 6: inside the bed. I'm not ready yet. I'm great. It's
Speaker 6: the woods. I might be alone, but I see the
Speaker 6: neighbors nous across the street. I see this person's backyard
Speaker 6: if I look to the left. So it's okay, hanging
Speaker 6: out around the fire all by myself. All of a
Speaker 6: sudden again in the top of this mountain that I
Speaker 6: forget what it's called. I think when I googled what
Speaker 6: I thought it was called, I was coming up with
Speaker 6: a music festival, so I must not have it right.
Speaker 6: Come to find out, the next day, when I had
Speaker 6: mentioned this sound, everybody said, oh, that's nothing. That mountain
Speaker 6: is haunted. You always hear those sounds from up there. Okay,
Speaker 6: I let it go. While I was sitting there again
Speaker 6: late two one thirty, somewhere around there in the morning,
Speaker 6: all by myself, just fire going from on the top
Speaker 6: of this mountain, or so it sounded. Obviously, I can't
Speaker 6: see anything because I'm fucking like gigantic mountain. There was
Speaker 6: this scream like, not a Bobcat scream. I've heard them.
Speaker 6: I know what they sound like. Not a rabbit getting killed,
Speaker 6: not a deer getting killed. I've heard all of that.
Speaker 6: I googled it, I've searched it. It was different. It
Speaker 6: was like a man but not. But it was like
Speaker 6: you could tell it was big and had toned and
Speaker 6: it was just loud and mean. I promptly poured water
Speaker 6: on the fire and walked inside. And that was the
Speaker 6: last thing that happened to me. I can't quite say
Speaker 6: that the last two were bigfoots or not, because you
Speaker 6: never know. But I can without a doubt say the
Speaker 6: first encounter I had, I would be surprised if it
Speaker 6: was not bigfoot.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 6: I don't know what else to call it. It was something.
Speaker 1: The funny thing is, I grew up in Georgia, so
Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with Helen. I've been to Helen several times.
Speaker 1: We have really good friends who lived just outside the
Speaker 1: Helen area up and such as Georgia.
Speaker 3: Matt Pruett, a.
Speaker 1: Good friend of mine, does a lot of research in
Speaker 1: and around the area of Helen. He grew up in
Speaker 1: that area as well, so there's a ton of history
Speaker 1: and sightings in that area. Not to mention the very
Speaker 1: infamous or famous dash cam video that you were talking about,
Speaker 1: that kind of was one of those things that was
Speaker 1: on your radar. I want to go back to your
Speaker 1: experience in Helen and when you saw what you saw,
Speaker 1: Obviously you had grown up and you'd heard stories, you'd
Speaker 1: had a little bit, you dipped your toe into Bigfoot
Speaker 1: a little bit. But when you had this experience and
Speaker 1: you saw what you saw, were you immediately convinced that
Speaker 1: what you saw was Bigfoot? Was that something that was
Speaker 1: clearly on your radar and you left that experience going
Speaker 1: I just had a class A siding of a Sasquatch.
Speaker 6: I don't think so, because again, at the time, it
Speaker 6: was hell in Georgia, southern Worthysy. I'm sure you've heard
Speaker 6: about it. If you know the area, it can be
Speaker 6: a mess and there can be lots of very drunk
Speaker 6: people doing very stupid things. But what led me to
Speaker 6: believe that it was not that was just it wasn't
Speaker 6: a monkey suit. This was no I felt like if
Speaker 6: it was closer, I could reach out and touch it. It
Speaker 6: felt like I could imagine the texture, almost like when
Speaker 6: you see what a dog looks like and you go, oh, okay,
Speaker 6: I know what that feels like. But also where it was.
Speaker 6: I don't think you could have gotten there any other
Speaker 6: way than straight up in the woods. But again I
Speaker 6: don't really know the area. Again, if you came the
Speaker 6: other way, you had a straight up mountain climb, it
Speaker 6: felt but anything as possible. But once I could visibly
Speaker 6: see with that bright moonlight the size and shape, and
Speaker 6: I know I keep going back to the head or neck,
Speaker 6: but that was what was so prominent to me because
Speaker 6: it almost felt like where are trap muscles are? You
Speaker 6: would have to disconnect it and put it almost behind
Speaker 6: your ear. It looked like it was not possible for
Speaker 6: it to turn its neck the way you and I can.
Speaker 6: That's why I feel like it's stuck out to me
Speaker 6: so much. The way it almost felt like it rotated
Speaker 6: at its torso to turn around and look at me.
Speaker 6: And I don't know of any normal person that does that.
Speaker 6: So that's what led me to be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 6: this is what I think it is. Now.
Speaker 1: There seems to be so many synchronicities between the two
Speaker 1: of us. I was a last key kid. I was
Speaker 1: that weird kid that was into weird shit when I
Speaker 1: was growing up, so there's a lot of synchronicity there.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in the woods. The
Speaker 1: woods was my solid us. It's the way that I
Speaker 1: escaped my shitty home life when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: so I definitely understand. I talk a lot about that
Speaker 1: in the books Iasquatch Unleash the Truth behind the Legend,
Speaker 1: mighty book that's out. It's one of those things that's
Speaker 1: hard to describe, but I too, like you, some of
Speaker 1: the things that I've never seen one of these creatures
Speaker 1: I've experienced. I was just posting about it today. I
Speaker 1: was doing some casting of some footprints that I had
Speaker 1: found in October of last year here on our land
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Although I found these footprints, and as
Speaker 1: I'm doing these casts, I made mother molds and I've
Speaker 1: created these replica casts for people to experience and see
Speaker 1: the same thing that I've experienced. I still doubt my
Speaker 1: own experience. I found this shit like sixty yards from
Speaker 1: my house, and I still say that I don't know
Speaker 1: for sure that Bigfoot exists. But I don't know what
Speaker 1: else it could be. So there's so many synchronicities that
Speaker 1: I'm getting in your story and our very similar lifestyles,
Speaker 1: that seems the vocalizations are one of those things that
Speaker 1: really changed my world. We heard these vocalizations. Obviously you've
Speaker 1: listened to the show before. I've told the story many times.
Speaker 1: But we started hearing vocalizations here once we bought this land.
Speaker 1: And once I heard that forty or fifty yards away
Speaker 1: from my house, I stopped doing night hikes. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the things I love to do. I love
Speaker 1: being out in the woods. I love going out for
Speaker 1: walks at night and just experiencing nature. That's why we
Speaker 1: bought forty acres in the middle of freaking nowhere, is
Speaker 1: so that I could do those very things. And once
Speaker 1: I heard those sounds that I can only attribute to
Speaker 1: an Ohiohowell like sound fifty yards from my house, I
Speaker 1: stopped doing night hikes. Dude, Even carrying a forty caliber
Speaker 1: pistol on my hip and a twelve gage shotgun loaded
Speaker 1: with slugs and buckshot, I still will not walk in
Speaker 1: the woods at night alone on my property anymore. I
Speaker 1: totally get what you're saying and it's very difficult for
Speaker 1: people who haven't experienced that to understand what that feeling
Speaker 1: is like. So have you been able to process that
Speaker 1: and those three experiences that you've had obviously had. I
Speaker 1: believe you had a class A siding of a sasquatch,
Speaker 1: and I think you've probably heard these things a couple
Speaker 1: of times. Are you still dealing with that present day?
Speaker 1: And do you still feel the same about going out
Speaker 1: into the woods at night by yourself?
Speaker 6: Oh? Totally. I generally don't go into the woods that
Speaker 6: night anymore. Even sometimes this is going to sound so silly,
Speaker 6: but even now still unfortunately I'm stuck in suburba and
Speaker 6: middle of New Jersey, but there's sometimes even in a
Speaker 6: backyard where I'm like over that, and I know it's silly,
Speaker 6: but it's just I don't know, man, I don't think
Speaker 6: so much. Hearing them changed me, probably because of the
Speaker 6: ordering which it happened, because I saw ye if you
Speaker 6: want to call it that already. Yeah, I still doubt
Speaker 6: myself because it's I don't understand how everybody else says, Nah,
Speaker 6: it doesn't exist. There can't be possible. There's no way
Speaker 6: this giant hominid slash gorilla in the forest, whatever camp
Speaker 6: you want to land in, or the wu aspect, I
Speaker 6: don't even know, but it's not supposed to exist. I
Speaker 6: know what I saw. I don't think I'm that crazy.
Speaker 6: I'm a little crazy, probably, but I don't think like that.
Speaker 1: You were a cop for five years, so I can relate.
Speaker 1: I was in law enforcement for sixteen years myself. You
Speaker 1: got to be a little bit crazy to do that job.
Speaker 1: Nobody with any sanity goes into that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: You were a first responder, so thank you so much
Speaker 1: for your service. You got to be a little crazy
Speaker 1: to do that, though it's not a normal job for
Speaker 1: normal people. Let's talk a little bit about the first
Speaker 1: time you shared your experience. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into things that you don't want to dive into, but
Speaker 1: I think it's important because this is what I do.
Speaker 6: It's my job.
Speaker 1: I've talked to thousands of people at this point, many
Speaker 1: of which don't want to talk on podcasts. They don't
Speaker 1: want to come on and be interviewed like you were doing.
Speaker 1: That's why I do other shows. I've created backwards horror
Speaker 1: stories to share those amazing experiences that people have that
Speaker 1: send emails and send it in to us that don't
Speaker 1: want to have these kind of conversations. First and foremost,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about the first podcast you
Speaker 1: want on. What caused you to want to share your
Speaker 1: story on that podcast? How did you find that experience?
Speaker 1: And then you mentioned obviously it turned you away from
Speaker 1: the subject. Talk a little bit about that experience and
Speaker 1: what caused you to give up the research after you
Speaker 1: had that initial experience telling your story on a podcast
Speaker 1: like this one.
Speaker 6: Sure, so again it was after all three. At the time,
Speaker 6: I was again getting a little bit interested in it
Speaker 6: again because I couldn't place those two sounds. I know,
Speaker 6: I saw the TV show after I saw it whatever,
Speaker 6: and obviously from watching the TV show, I know exactly
Speaker 6: what the money maker sounds like, so I could place
Speaker 6: the second one. But again, it's not supposed to exist.
Speaker 6: And here I am this just in my opinion, regular
Speaker 6: dude for New Jersey. Each now, I saw one, and
Speaker 6: I heard one and maybe heard one the second time,
Speaker 6: and okay, this is all right, let me start researching.
Speaker 6: So I started researching. I found this podcast on I
Speaker 6: don't even remember what player I was using at the time,
Speaker 6: but I don't even use the same one anymore, and
Speaker 6: it sounded incredible. I was going off of a cherry
Speaker 6: picked list that I had found on Reddit, So maybe
Speaker 6: shame on me. Maybe if I had listened from top
Speaker 6: to bottom, I would have got a different vibe from
Speaker 6: the situation. But it felt like almost like a safe
Speaker 6: space to talk about it, and I felt like I
Speaker 6: was finally ready to just not quite put it to bed,
Speaker 6: but just be like, Okay, this happened. I need to
Speaker 6: let that sink in. It happened, and I was pitched
Speaker 6: this whole Oh you're part of this elite club. We're
Speaker 6: going to be framed. Take my number, we can text.
Speaker 6: You're part of a very select few that I've seen it.
Speaker 6: I texted one time and I never even got a response.
Speaker 6: It was literally left on red. And it turned me
Speaker 6: off so much from the subject that I have not
Speaker 6: listened to a podcast since. I don't even remember how
Speaker 6: long ago it was and I told this story, but
Speaker 6: it was like it was a couple of years, probably
Speaker 6: like three to four years. I want to say again
Speaker 6: now it's I don't know, maybe just boredem curiosity, maybe
Speaker 6: again wanting to put this to bed, or just maybe
Speaker 6: understand it more because I still don't understand it. I
Speaker 6: know what I saw, I can see it in my head.
Speaker 6: Still I wish I could somehow take out a memory
Speaker 6: and project it and show people. I don't know what
Speaker 6: I've saw. I don't know how else to describe it.
Speaker 6: And that's what is I think still got me chasing this,
Speaker 6: whatever this is that I'm trying to put the bed
Speaker 6: or research that I'm trying to do to understand it.
Speaker 1: For more Sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: after these messages. Everybody listening, including me, knows exactly what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Man, That's what keeps us all coming back.
Speaker 1: That's why I've continued to do this show, almost five
Speaker 1: hundred episodes in, because we're all seeking the same answers.
Speaker 1: I think I've dealt with a lot of stuff personally
Speaker 1: with people in the community that appear to be one thing,
Speaker 1: and then once you let the walls down and you
Speaker 1: let them into your world, they turn into something else.
Speaker 1: And I recently have talked about it being more like
Speaker 1: Sasquatch is the monster that we're all chasing. But it
Speaker 1: seems to me more often as I get into this
Speaker 1: deeper and deeper into the community. At times, the people
Speaker 1: truly are the monsters. When it comes to Bigfoot. It's
Speaker 1: not sasquatch since the monsters, it's the people.
Speaker 3: I really hate that.
Speaker 1: I am so glad that you've came back into this
Speaker 1: and you're still curious and you're doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: And I really want to say a personal thank you
Speaker 1: publicly for allowing me the opportunity to hear your story
Speaker 1: and you to come on this show and share it,
Speaker 1: because I can tell you one thing, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to ghost you, man, I'm not going to be that person.
Speaker 3: I don't have.
Speaker 1: Any answers, probably any more than you do. I'm still
Speaker 1: a seeker of those answers myself. But I can tell
Speaker 1: you this, everybody that's been on the show, I still
Speaker 1: talk to people that have been on my show episode two, three,
Speaker 1: four or five of the show, and I'm again almost
Speaker 1: five hundred episodes in. I still get random text messages
Speaker 1: from people finding new evidence and things, and I've always
Speaker 1: responded to every single message, no matter whether it's a
Speaker 1: text message or sometimes it's a little delayed on certain
Speaker 1: social media's. But I do answer every single one of
Speaker 1: those myself because no matter how big this show gets,
Speaker 1: no matter how much it grows, I am always going
Speaker 1: to be that person that is going to respond to everybody.
Speaker 1: So I want to say a personal thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on and sharing your experiences man, and coming back
Speaker 1: into the fold. This is a beautiful community. I've said
Speaker 1: it so many times. Some of the other stuff that
Speaker 1: we've talked about on that Bigfoot podcast with my co
Speaker 1: host Wayne, and some of the other things that are
Speaker 1: going on in the community. There are shitty people in Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: but by and large, this community is some of the
Speaker 1: greatest people I've ever met. I've met friends that were
Speaker 1: heroes of mine, people I looked up to for so
Speaker 1: many years in Bigfoot. Cliff Barrittman comes to mind, Jeff Meldrum,
Speaker 1: people that I watched on television. Now that I can
Speaker 1: call friends, I can reach out to and ask questions,
Speaker 1: because I still have questions of my own. So I
Speaker 1: just say those people are out there in this community.
Speaker 1: The shitty people are the minority, fortunately for us in Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: but by and large, the people that are in this
Speaker 1: community are fantastic. So don't lose faith, don't lose hope,
Speaker 1: keep seeking those answers. Man, and obviously anytime I can
Speaker 1: answer any questions for you. I'm gonna make sure you
Speaker 1: have my number and you can reach out to me anytime,
Speaker 1: and I guarantee you I won't leave you unread man.
Speaker 1: So thanks so much for coming on the show and
Speaker 1: sharing your experience. I've had a blast talking to you.
Speaker 6: No, thank you, thank you for having me, and thank
Speaker 6: you for doing that. I appreciate it very much because,
Speaker 6: like I said, it felt like a safe space and
Speaker 6: then it just felt like a door slammed in my face.
Speaker 6: So thank you, Winn, thank you for having an awesome podcast.
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Speaker 4: stay happen.
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